🧠｜serious-chat

[desert nebula]

Mhm Syrian

[floral wren]

Yes, Siryon Western Neo Aramaic, currently 2000 speakers.

[desert nebula]

You already know the name ahaha

[floral wren]

You identify as Syriac/Aramean?

[desert nebula]

Nope I can't speak either

[floral wren]

It's okay, we all learn.

[desert nebula]

do you have Syrian friends? How do you know all of this

[floral wren]

I run a discord full of Arameans, I attend a Syriac Church and i listen to their music and study the Aramaic language.

[desert nebula]

yeah but it's a dead kingdom....nobody identify as an aramean today bro

[floral wren]

Hundreds of people still identify as Aramean, possibly even 10's of thousands of people do.

Aram-Damascus is preserved within the West Syriac Rite churchs.

[thorny steeple]

Russians want Soviet back

[prisma cipher]

Who say

Or any collapse empire, like Turkish or Poland, I doubt Poland don't want be big power again, who almost take Russia once

[thorny steeple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_YDs4foRO7Y?si=ccIHqYVOGg1IcuJL

[thorny steeple]

It seems like life was so great in soviet era

[prisma cipher]

It was time when she was young. Worst time in Russia were at 90th also coolest days because I was young.

Worst time in modern history, of course were times way worse than that

[thorny steeple]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrNWXbVk/

The comments

[prisma cipher]

Don't see where she think USSR still exist

[prisma cipher]

Yes, dude say we don't want it back. Your comments

You try to prove me what we want. Like you know it better.

[thorny steeple]

Maybe in some rural areas usually like older generations they don’t use smart phones and watch news

[prisma cipher]

Just stop it.

[thorny steeple]

syraic language?

[prisma cipher]

That babushka say she still live in USSR, that is it. It like say lenin still alive. Don't mean we don't know lenin not alive

[thorny steeple]

only older generations would miss soviet union, am i saying the truth

[elder seal]

Almost like being old just sucks

[prisma cipher]

Why

[prisma cipher]

I saw kids with USSR T-shirt

[elder seal]

It doesn't mean anything. Old people always miss "the old times." Same way people missed Hitler after world war 2 - The only reason why you have these positive views on the USSR among older generation is that they didn't undergo a de-sovietization the same way Germans did

doesn't make the USSR a particularly good system nor desirable. Most of them were just young and can't connect dots properly. Old people out here today fetishizing the 50s like they wouldn't be beat by their parents or something for just speaking out of line

[prisma cipher]

Yes, exactly it like ask any old people do they miss 80th or 70th

[elder seal]

It's such a piss-poor argument. People always fetishize the past when they feel the present is bad. And being old just sucks, so it's not exactly a surprise

That's not a particularly comparable circumstance. Mao ruled under a famine - The USSR was ruling around the end in the form of stagnating security. The current Chinese economy is doing relatively decently, the current Russian one fairly poorly.

[desert nebula]

Bro why.....are they even arameans??

[desert nebula]

yeah but it's still a small community in Syria

[desert nebula]

It's a dialect not really a language but based on aramaic 🌚

[floral wren]

They have Levantine dna and they study Genetics, so idk

[floral wren]

It's 100k People, but some of the Sureth speaking people identify as Aramean, so it could be approxiately 1.5m

[desert nebula]

But they're not arameans

They're Assyrians so Mesopotamians not even levantines

Every Syrian, Lebanese and Palestine has levantine ancestry but it doesn't mean they're aramean either

[floral wren]

They refute that and defend against it.

[desert nebula]

How? 😂😂

[floral wren]

You can speak to Tyler and V.enc

They know about it.

[desert nebula]

Arameans literally originated from Syria

[floral wren]

Yes, well more south western anatolia.

[desert nebula]

Iraq and Iran used the Armamaic script as it was dominant at a certain era

[floral wren]

Yes, the Imperial Script was spread by the Achaemenids.

[desert nebula]

Many languages used the Aramaic script still using it doesn't make you arameans

[desert nebula]

South Eastern of Türkiye was part of the levant already

it just joined Türkiye after the fall of the ottoman empire

I mean arameans are semites not Anatolians, Mesopotamians or iranic

[floral wren]

Yes

[floral wren]

Yes

[desert nebula]

It seems nowadays many are claiming to be aramean while they're unrelated lol

[floral wren]

No they believe the Diaspora of the Arameans have spread and are the ones that exist today and assyrians went extinct.

[desert nebula]

Assyrians went extinct?

I mean many Christians in Iraq, Iran and north eastern part of Syria identify as Assyrians

More even than syriacs

I've heard that even some Indians call themselves Syriac because they follow the Syriac church, as I said before the nation died and now it's just a meaningless term

[floral wren]

Both nations do not exist and their Countries are within the Churchs. The Church's preserve their traditions and identities.

Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey and maybe kurdistan.

No mentions of Assur and Aram.

Mention of Syria, similar to Syriac (doesn't affirm that they are Arameans.)

[desert nebula]

Well historically the Arameans weren't Christians and then after converting they started to identify as Syriacs to differentiate themselves

[floral wren]

Yes, same with Assyrians.

The Assyrians were destroyed by God and the Aramean kingdoms were destroyed by God.

Both turned to Christ.

[desert nebula]

Damascus was Aram kingdom, it's even mentioned in the bible 🌚

[floral wren]

Yes, Aram-Damascus.

[desert nebula]

But the term Syria most probably came from assure

The Assyrian empire

[floral wren]

It was a Greek term given to them.

[desert nebula]

So we're using the wrong term lol

[floral wren]

Syriakos

[desert nebula]

Yeah they called the western region of the Assyrian empire as Syria

[floral wren]

ⲤΥⲢΙΑΚΟⲤ

[desert nebula]

What

[floral wren]

Well there's evidence of many terms used, but i don't get caught up in the drama.

[desert nebula]

The most popular theory is that the term Syria is derived form the Assyrian empire .....it's kinda complicated because the Assyrians in Iraq don't like this

Because levantines and mésopotamians are distinct people

[floral wren]

The Original name for Assyria was Btilda

[desert nebula]

I searched for the term and it means extinct 💀wdym

[floral wren]

Wait, I think i might be confusing my previous searches

The oldest origin name of Assyria is likely "Baltil" or "Baltila

[desert nebula]

This also is the name of small region in the city of assur

Before Assyria there was different empires sumer, Babylon.....

[floral wren]

The Akkadians, the Babylonians and Sumer.

[thorny steeple]

ohh, ik, estimate how many syrians and arabs can speak it

[desert nebula]

Before the war there was over 100,000 that spoke Aramaic dialects in Syria but now they're much less...

• they don't identify as Arabs

İn Iraq many speak Assyrian-neo Aramaic dialects too but idk if i can count them

[thorny steeple]

I hope that this language doesnt get extinct in few years, and new govt work on tis revival too

[thorny steeple]

What’s your opinion or thoughts o Assyrian and Aramean identities overlap or clash today?

What do you think would have happened if the Aramean kingdoms hadn’t fallen to the Assyrians?

would the region will be different or same

[main bison]

Hey?

[deep leaf]

Whts going on with Iran n usa?

[main bison]

Nth much just a threat of a war

[thorny steeple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TMJ87ypMAQc?si=KVkftlh5nnN3-IWp serious chat shud def be chill

[sharp creek]

You r **totally **not get my point. racism comes from prejudice .
when you see poor people as no value or less value means you are in fact discriminating against the races that are predominantly in poverty. the reality is everyone has different degree of discrimination, even if you pretend not to , your deny it.

you hate japanese because of the historical war. if black people been the wealthiest race and they shared part of that wealth .you would reckon them as your father in law. remaining silence just makes the situation worse ,because it changes nobodys mindset . instesat it told people to conceal their biases and lie. it should be improved through polite and rational education not by law or moral coercion. such an approach would likely provoke resetment and no effective at all.

by the way many online posts claim jews have funded the war across history. if thats true, i mean of course not everyone in isreal was involved into a war.but how do you view or think of isreal. on the other hand your country has different policies for each ethnic group that most of them are beneficial. so admit it , you are racist ,even more than the average level.

the issue is not about denial, but about how we guide, improve, and coexist. Please Applaud

by the way is that the defamation of jews a fact or not?

[desert nebula]

İ don't think they'll but yeah i hope it doesn't get extinct

[desert nebula]

I'm sure it'll be so different...even our nationality might have a different term today

But this Mesopotamia and the levant have much in common in history so it's fine ...... identities keep changing i don't care about them

Even today many said that the current Assyrians aren't even the real Assyrians

While many arameans are arabized today

[desert nebula]

Bachchee

Hello kid

[main bison]

Check server

[thorny steeple]

This book is still available

[thorny steeple]

im beginner in chinese

its soo much difficult to write it and pronounce it according to you guys

[thorny steeple]

It sure is widespread

[feral depot]

https://tenor.com/view/peek-creeping-gossip-tea-time-gif-20854500

[crude turret]

Does anyone have a good knowledge of american accents?
I'm writing a character and I'm trying to find a good accent to match their character

[thorny steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPFwrH1w468&ab_channel=JoeSeon

i love those two songs

😂

[modern meteor]

hi

[neat basin]

i'm american

[crude turret]

That can help

[thorny steeple]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrFh1cGr/

This dude

[crude turret]

Tell me what accent a tough woman could have? More specifically someone independent, which good survival instincts and with a bad past but trying to live a new life as a criminal. She would be a closed person and pretty silent but knows how to negotiate (on my story she's a smugler and a mercenary).

[thorny steeple]

This dude really looks like Abraham Lincoln

[neat basin]

maybe a southern accent like someone from the Appalachia region

[crude turret]

Do you know where could I find an example? (On the internet)

Nevermind, I googled it and yes, it fits her

[neat basin]

glad to help

[earnest axle]

This person should be banned

And according for what I read, yeah... This dude have something going on against almost every nationality

Btw out of the topic: @stuck yarrow this person is a scammer

[uncut mist]

for real?

[thorny steeple]

Who is a scammer

[thorny steeple]

Who?

[whole beacon]

[thorny steeple]

Actually get rip of the poor people is inhuman,labors are hella valued,if there is no poor people, who would do cleans and labor jobs, if given a choice, everyone would pursue their passion out of labor jobs?

[whole beacon]

Well there will always be a proletarian class.

[onyx hazel]

You might be trolling or something

Your comments sound like shitpost. Can't believe you're serious about that

[heavy parcel]

is it that serious here

[onyx hazel]

I don't know bro, lol

[earnest axle]

Yeah you right

[onyx hazel]

I just opened this chat and came across with that comment

[heavy parcel]

lmao i guess we dont belong here

[summer parcel]

imagine silencing someone based on their opinions

i thought u westerns were all for freedom of speech

ig it only applies if it follows ur view of the world and ur opinions

typical double western standards

[thorny steeple]

Another mainland dude , why instead of mainly china or the province name following the country name

[thorny steeple]

Actually high tech and stuffs ,gadgets and innovations often invest by people who grow up poor, they actually change the world and build the future,nah less value or you can discriminate towards poor people

[thorny steeple]

This book is truly amazing - Homage to Catalonia

[fallen flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-cat-kitty-gif-6540808372197226742

[feral river]

I hate Japanese ? Where does that fucking accusation from ? I’m having a Japanese anime profile and I ever been to Japan for vacation 2 times

You better know what the fuck is race then talk about what is racism

There’s no race of wealthy

[feral river]

Can’t imagine you would judge all jews just based on their history which being attacked by the terrorists for all the time

Now i can say you are a fucking racist, fr

[feral river]

I never said it was necessary to get rid of the poor people

[feral river]

Since when I said I discriminate poor people, read carefully and you will find, I do not discriminate people who are poor, but I discriminate people who are proud of this status

You become a poor it may your fault or not, okay fine but if you say how great your poor status is, then you are a stupid fucking poor ass

[sharp creek]

Hello sir ,i know you r rasist so i d like to change the topic.
You said many nations try to denounce Israel but the war wasn’t able to be stopped. Where is your countrys international influence? What does the United Nations for actually? china number 1 sir

[feral river]

I’m not a so fucking rich individual, I may not to be considered as a poor, but I can tell you, poor = less power

[feral river]

UN is our tool to control these puppet and minor states

Law/rule without enforcement is toilet paper

[sharp creek]

i ll tell the truth. i think jews are powerful enough. i v got no evidence though.

[feral river]

Don’t talk about the UN to us, we can abuse it for all the time

And guess what ? Veto

Or simply not giving a fuck

Global power is based on strength, not this ass which created by us for control the minors

Can’t believe these puppets really think they can beat us in our rules

L.M.A.O.

[sharp creek]

Even in Asian countries, were the real estate industry and the Opium War controlled by Jews? They are so wealthy that no one dares to criticize them

[feral river]

For me if you can’t prove your value to me, get the fuck off of my red carpet which might cost more than your net worth.

[sharp creek]

you dare to do nothing but decieve others just like jews did

[feral river]

This is the real world baby, no jokes

And it was for all the time

[sharp creek]

my friends from china said you try to make others ignorant. is that true

rich people get the better education and better job openly

widen the wealth gap to stimulate labor

[sharp creek]

thats what rich people do in asia right. gathering the power ,gathering the wealth , deceiving others

pls dont avoid the questions

[feral river]

this question makes no sense

they have the power they have the wealth but what do you mean by deceiving others ? what people they deceived ?

[sharp creek]

I'm curious, do you represent the attitude of the power system or the majority of civilians in your opinion?
Put it another way, do all Chinese people act like you do, even based on the living conditions with multiple problems, sir?
Or china is strong enough to do whatever it wants
hahaha iv been typing for a long time

[feral river]

capitalist market is running based on the trust, how is that could be based on lying

that makes 0 sense bro

[sharp creek]

making others ignorant and telling others 'china number one'

[feral river]

you can't say I will pay 5 dollar for my breakfast but I don't give you that money

[feral river]

I never said China no.1

[sharp creek]

yeah you always say china no.2

[feral river]

based on global power I always say the United States no.1 China no.2

[sharp creek]

hahahaha

[sharp creek]

where is the 'making civilians ignorant' part

by education revolution. its just a lie or what . do you agree that the richer one is the better education.

tell us the truth

i misunderstood.

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yrHGik8APVo

this finally happened in the US

keep going on the right path of development

get rid of the guys who disrupting the social order

🇺🇸 Make America Great Again

[sharp creek]

hahahahaha

conceptual substitution . you really work hard. respect!

[agile lichen]

Hello guys, Me and my friend are conducting a very interesting research about Israel and we would really appriciate if you participated in it. Even though we may have different opinions on the subject. please let us know in the DMs if you would like to take part in a world-changing research 🇮🇱

[hexed kettle]

What's that bout?

[agile lichen]

Its for a school project, wanna participate?

[hexed kettle]

Give me details

[half mason]

hi

anyone here

[earnest axle]

You didn't know me and stop using Twitter and get a job.

[earnest axle]

And isn't an opinion

[random olive]

Freedom of speech is disrupting social order?

How about someone shuts you up when you start preaching communism

[feral river]

I don't preach communism and I ain't getting shut because they won't

they simply won't, it's just that simple

[random olive]

Idk why he didn't mention what the students were protesting about

[feral river]

did you see any North Korean officials even attempt to say something bad about their leader ?

it's just work like that

you don't say it, you won't get trouble from it

[random olive]

because they are not democratic

America is supposed to be a democracy

[feral river]

that ain't in the american consititution

[random olive]

''the land of the free"

Thats literally their tagline

[feral river]

search about it on american gov

and you will find nothing

[random olive]

They do have a democratic system of government

[feral river]

North Koreans also have that, but are they democratic ?

[random olive]

What-

North Korea is a democratic state

Tf

[feral river]

their nation's full name is Democratic People's Republic of Korea, they have their consitution, their congress and a lot of stuff

but are they democratic ?

and if they claim to be democratic, what's the reason for me to believe america is the true democracy ?

none of these you had explained

[random olive]

Why are you arguing on democracy
I think it's already established that USA is a democratic country

[feral river]

btw according to the economic-democracy index, america is technically a flawed democracy

[random olive]

Every democracy is flawed lol

Technocracy better

[earnest axle]

This dude had phone addiction and based on his messages
He have something going on , some issues

@random olive it's a waste of time discussing with a troll

[earnest axle]

This person isn't an American person
He's a Chinase angry because "his govbement" and he decided to blame every nationality/people because of Chinase government.

[night cedar]

Hmm

[feral river]

I would be so fucking busy if I even try to deal with some fuckers attacking me for some stupid reason or no reason at all

and please line up

[random olive]

How much time do you spend on the screen?

@feral river

(Mine is 4 hrs as of now.)

[near blaze]

How serious are we today

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-doe-eating-deer-eating-popcorn-funny-gif-4621167703268332056

[austere aurora]

bitte don't talk about topics you do not understand

[feral river]

I don't count my time on the screen but the time not on the screen

[near blaze]

Which is? 8 hrs?

[feral river]

don't really know very specific because where's me where's my computer unless I'm having vacation

[near blaze]

When's vacation

[thorny steeple]

are you wanna with him when having a vacation

[near blaze]

Yes

[shy summit]

Morning human beings. And good morning to you too Minecraft.

[near blaze]

Who's minecraft

[thorny steeple]

your Chinneeds dude

[near blaze]

Why is his name minecraft

[shy summit]

Our resident liaison between the Chinese Chunky Propaganist

And the server

[thorny steeple]

minecraft

[shy summit]

Idk what his issue is with actual Democratic nations. But he defo drank the kool-aid on this one.

[near blaze]

Is kool aid bad

[thorny steeple]

Chineeds

Chineeds people newbie

[near blaze]

Who's newbie

[thorny steeple]

newbie

hella newbie🐮

[near blaze]

Who

[thorny steeple]

chineeds

[near blaze]

And who's that

[thorny steeple]

need how,being chill link

[near blaze]

Uhh

[shy summit]

This is the most toddler shit I’ve seen from a Conservative news host.

This little whiny bitch is complaining that “Words are too big”

I mean I get it most Conservatives have the media literacy of a walnut but goddamn this is fucking funny.

[feral river]

gm bro here's night and how was your day in the US

[feral river]

this was funny tbh but... if he reveals it before it happen, that's treason against the United States

[thorny steeple]

How's the Chinese night like?

[shy summit]

I finished multiple articles yesterday after interviewing members of our public veterans care system

[feral river]

that was incredible if you are doing it but how it exactly looks like

I heard that's a long time high rate of chances to commit suicide for these people

but idk why it will be like that, and it seems we don't have that issue

[shy summit]

Things WERE improving but trump is cutting care to veterans.

[feral river]

he's cutting care to everyone bro

[shy summit]

Veterans are losing substance abuse and mental health care spscifically

[feral river]

well is that so ? it seems you guys are obsessed with these cares, in here I barely heard of someone needs therapy or mental cares besides psychos

aren't the people who are sick need such service or cares ?

[shy summit]

Uhm… what?

You do realize mental health care is EXTREMELY important for a vast swath of medical conditions right?

PTSD
Anxiety
Depression
General Care
Neurological disorders
Bipolar
Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria
Gender Dysphoria
Austism
Asburgers
Cerebral Palsy

Like there is an entire book of medical conditions, each with its own unique needs and treatments

[feral river]

yeah those are specific diseases if you had any of those you are sick and you have to got to the hospital and then you can access those cares

[shy summit]

Those aren’t diseases

Diseases are contagious

[feral river]

but it wasn't like oh I'm feeling bad right now so I want to see my therapist or some other guys cares mental health

[shy summit]

Well in all fairness many people should be seeing a therapist on a weekly or monthly basis

[feral river]

oh sorry I mean they are ill

[shy summit]

To avoid the development of things and depression therapy is extremely important

But it also helps in managing those things

In most cases these are long term or lifelong struggles its not like you go to the doctor and boom you’re cured

[feral river]

really ? I'm sure you can't even find some ads about therapy in here, we all think that people who are sick needs therapy

and normal people doesn't need that

[shy summit]

Plenty of normal people do therapy…?

[feral river]

what ? why

what's the reason to do that

[shy summit]

Its just routine care like a physical health inspection.

That’s just standard care

[feral river]

ahhh are these cares expensive ?

[shy summit]

Depends on your insurance

[feral river]

oh it's covered ? wtf

our insurance doesn't cover that shit

[shy summit]

Its health care my dude why wouldn’t it be covered

Why do I get the feeling you guys have shitty mental healthcare where you live

[feral river]

I'm sure that every friend of me and my family member never done it even once

and I just know that is a big thing in the US and idk why

[shy summit]

Because we’re the leading medical research on the planet.

Not that it translates into care quality.

[feral river]

for here if you need therapy you have to pay it or hire a therapist

[shy summit]

Do you have psychiatry covered over there?

[thorny steeple]

i really jealous of you guys have a lot of times on the internet, dont need to work don have jobs

[feral river]

yeah that exists

but for routine therapy, no

[shy summit]

I literally was up till midnight doing work the fuck you mean

Got a huge chunk of chaching for it tho

[thorny steeple]

make america great again

[shy summit]

What the fuck is being made great?

[feral river]

a bunch of people don't believe in american democracy, it's just that

we all super familiar with cult of personality and that kills democracy

[thorny steeple]

trump says it

[sour phoenix]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6088194/

[earnest axle]

@thorny steeple. What the f with your introduction lolol

(sorry but this person put a interesting introduction in another server)

[thorny steeple]

Lmao 🤣

Made in USA

[thorny steeple]

Fr made in china when

[thorny steeple]

china only copy shit from others

[thorny steeple]

True but no Lenovo?

[earnest axle]

Some of them are wrong.

Dr pepper is from Japan

[thorny steeple]

a Laptop brand made in china, while steal tech

[thorny steeple]

I see

[thorny steeple]

Fr lol

[thorny steeple]

but china also innovating new things while copying others

[thorny steeple]

True true

Taiwan is a great example

[thorny steeple]

japan too started by copying westerns stuff at the beginning before becomign leaders in innovation

@thorny steeple Jinnah himself said to hindus leaders and Pakistani sided Begali leaders a separate land for Begalis can be possible I will sign it, Britteshers themselves can sign it. Ill convice them on it, but see these hindus greed will never let them have a separate or autnomous region. Read the dialog between bengalis and muslim league

Right?
We Bengalis chose India
Why?
Cuz of the noakhali Calcutta stuff
How do u expect a population to side with u after committing a genocide on them
And please
1965-1971
Is a proof of how well u treated Ur minorities
So no way in hell were Bengalis wrong for choosing India
Cuz we can see the results of those who Pakistan in 1965-1972

[thorny steeple]

hahaha, muslim league themselve form it by bengalis, not the punjab or western provinces

idea of separate homeland was driven out by Iqbal and Begalis Jinnah executed it

Bengalis were most active in it

@sonic terrace A Muslim man was killed with fire a few weeks ago because of his report against a Hindu administrator who SA'ed his wife and refused to throw the report away

Bengalis themselves were back to Pakistan in new govt they want our weapons and army to fight against Indians

They want us to fight against India

They are so anti India that they literlly spread hate about you.

They want our missiles to fight against you

[thorny steeple]

What u also don't know is
That a 10th grade boy was killed by his Muslim classmate over an argument
What u don't know is
A Hindu Girl returning from a festival was gang r@ped in Gujarat by 6 Muslim men
There are many incidents where Muslims target Hindus to do the crimes

Why don't U mention that also?

[sonic terrace]

my guy, we both don't ignore the deeds, we agree upon wrongfulness.

[thorny steeple]

I'm talking about Bengali genocide and Bengali Hindus here

I don't see how what Ur saying is in anyway relatable to the Bengali genocide ?

[thorny steeple]

I already mentioned in general chat no one can justify bad

I dont justify 1971

No one ever can

Pakistani themselves apologize for incidents 2 times

that what make us muslims

[thorny steeple]

Yes we should agree upon wrongfulness shouldn't we?
But
From the messages of U and Ur friend only mentioning those in which Muslims were the victim that sounded pretty biased
And it creates a biased image too

the govt is hindus, polics is of hindus, army is of hindus, media is of hindus, congress didnt full fill their own promises for miniorities

[thorny steeple]

Yea they can spread all hate they want in modern day

But I'm talking about history here
So it's not relatable in anyway
Also they can consider Pakistan their brother lover whatever that's their choice
Stockholm syndrome is pretty common either way

[thorny steeple]

they hate you soo much because of indian influence in them the puppet govt you alwasy try to put there. You rintelligence can pick any boy from there and kill them.

[thorny steeple]

Oh is that so?
That's why we have a waqf that protects minority rights
That's why our minority population increased by 8 percent
That's why the highest ranks in government of IAS ips youngest officers are Muslim in India

The DSP in my own distric is Muslim DSP is highest post in local police , also my district which has 20 percent population of Muslim

[thorny steeple]

voice came from the heart of your parliament that primeminister of modi themselves want a partition of Indian again, they are dividing muslims, muslims leader literlly tear the bill

[thorny steeple]

Mate Ur country intelligence is literally responsible for so many terrorist attacks in India
Did u forget before haj what attack happened to a bus in Jammu of Hindu pilgrims?
It was committed by a Pakistani Islamist terrorist organisation
Which I'm pretty sure Ur country backs up

[thorny steeple]

waqf bill isnt protecting muslims, muslims themselves dont want waqf bill.

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple and what has Ur nation given to the minorities?

Oh wait what will u give to us minorities when Ur own doctors are being killed by police over accusations of blasphemy

[thorny steeple]

they have more than regular muslims, even they get national seat or not but they are selected and get in parliament ever university, college school has seats for them even they are failure or not capable of studying, over law minister was a lowcast

[thorny steeple]

Mate if they didn't want it there wouldn't be such huge protests against it's amendments
I'm not a bjp fan dw
Also remember
We have a 40 percent opposition
That's literally always speaking up for Muslim every chance it gets
How much percentage of Ur parliament talks about it's non Muslims?

[thorny steeple]

Im sure the India is backing up Baloch militants and supporting them

in wars you dont dance you kill and shed blood its obvious

you dont gift flowers to each other

[thorny steeple]

where major politicalparties themselves say muslim arent part of india they are infiltrated

[thorny steeple]

Our president is of tribal origin mate
And we had a president great sir dr apj Abdul Kalam who was Muslim too
And next time we have Congress in 2029 inshallah
We'll most likely have a Muslim president

[thorny steeple]

Baloch militancy is of past decade
Kashmir Jammu terrorism is of past 3 decades

Ur nation started it

[thorny steeple]

when some one becomes a muslim in cogres then inform me, also muslim leader themselves stated that failure of congressi s very much obvious they do soft hindutva politics

[thorny steeple]

it is of 4 decades and kashmiris want to be with pakistan we give them arms thats all

[thorny steeple]

behar want to be separated

[thorny steeple]

Bjp is literally so broken up lol
If ya seriously think those empty words will do anything Ur hell wrong

In India if a Hindu police shows his Hindu beliefs while work everyone criticizes him
Meanwhile our great officers show Islam in every sentence no one can question them

sikhs want to make their own country

literlly no one wants to be india

and we openly support their rights

[thorny steeple]

By that same logic
Balochistan wants independence
We giving them arms is wrong?
Hm?
But u giving h
Kashmiris arms is right?
I believe Kashmir belongs kashmiris certainly
But u have no right to blame India on Kashmir genocide when action of Bengal done by Ur military was far far worse in numbers itself

Also have u seen what Ur militants have done to Kashmir?
They attack always buses of pilgrims
Ur really happy when that happens right?
Then why so upset seeing Ur Balochistan do the same

Tit for tat

[thorny steeple]

Bruh Bihar?
I lived there
No one in hell wants to be separated a land locked country
Also khalistanis?
You do realise most Sikhs hate them
Ask any educated Sikh they'll say that khalistanis are terrorist who don't follow Khalsa laws

[thorny steeple]

There are literally so many Muslims in Congress go look them up
Dr apj Abdul Kalam the nation most favourite president
Hell we'd have made him our great leader or even calliph he was so great he was a Muslim

Can there ever be a Hindu president in Pakistan
Oh wait
Don't u have a law in Constitution itself that a non Muslim can't be prime Minister/president?
@thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple just a reminder: according to #📋｜rules Politics discussions is not allowed in this server, This server is English Grammerticals related rather than Politics

[thorny steeple]

@sonic terrace I hope u got my point
If u talk about crime don't make it sound biased Ur not is not real
Be honest
Talk both sides
Don't make it sound as if only one community does it
Then there's no difference between u and isnotreal or hindutva terrorists
Remember people remember salauddin ottomans for equality

[formal pilot]

It's allowed in serious chat while maintaining a respect

[thorny steeple]

I'm sincerely sorry about it but u can see chat in general chat itself it was started by him
Syr guy
I said myself to not talk politics in server
He began it all
I didn't even mention religion
If u see chat history
It was him and his friend that brought religion in our discussion.

[thorny steeple]

real

[formal pilot]

Chill out, this channel was created for those types of discussion

[thorny steeple]

**ok don't worry, so those who are mentioning religion will be punished by the moderators according to #📋｜rules **

[formal pilot]

Dude i wasn't active for a few weeks, wth happened to serious chat

[thorny steeple]

idk, I almost never check this channel

[thorny steeple]

I'm sorry I didn't even wanna begin the political drama he began with Gaza this that so I just replied in a way that didn't mention religion
Then afterwards I dunno but he started bringing religion in all our discussion-
Then I kinda responded too but I tried my best not to be racist not to blame a fault at one community I tried to keep chat balanced
But I might have made some mistakes
I'm sincerely sorry about it
Please do whatever you feel is right
I'll gladly accept my part of punishment
But make sure to punish those who actually started the biased news

[formal pilot]

Fair enough, I'm waiting for some science discussion to join in, I'm too tired of discussing geopolitics and religion rn

[thorny steeple]

Don't worry no worries

[thorny steeple]

what other channels you always check

[thorny steeple]

You're an atheist, why do you lose your time discussing politics?

[thorny steeple]

beginner chat, cause I'm a beginner

[thorny steeple]

you are not a beginner

U can even see in one of my messages I tried telling that wrongfulness criticize on both sides don't spread one sided biased news or propoganda that makes it sound like one community is at fault while other is innocent

I said that when his friend and him we're trynna spread one sided biased news so as to spread an image that one community is always victim innocent while the other is wrong

I replied to it by giving him name of reverse incidents when his community was at fault other was innocent but then afterwards I said that

What I said above.

[formal pilot]

What do you mean lol, atheists can't engage in political discussion

[uneven citrus]

skibidi chat

[thorny steeple]

Thank you for your generous time moderators
May y'all have a great day.

i have a serious question

[thorny steeple]

oops, I typed wrong

[uneven citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[thorny steeple]

Why do you lose your time discussing religion

[thorny steeple]

Your Welcome

[thorny steeple]

go ahead

[uneven citrus]

waste your time*

[thorny steeple]

Bro not to be offensive
But with that pfp and u being athiest that's something ironic 💀

[thorny steeple]

fr

[uneven citrus]

why

[formal pilot]

I change it based on the event, Christmas, holi n all lol

[thorny steeple]

actually kids tend to have more curiousity and creativity compared to adults but i found out that i lose curiosity, life is boring as hell i dont know what should i do sometimes, got no interest in anything

[formal pilot]

It's Roman god Mars

[thorny steeple]

The gat is religious
Flag seems LGBT or Germany I dunno I can't see clearly 😭
Guy is Alexander-
Most secular non secular pfp ever

[formal pilot]

Because it's fun innt brav

[thorny steeple]

Ohh

[uneven citrus]

so what

[thorny steeple]

I thought it was Alexander lol

[uneven citrus]

that's his 3rd name

[thorny steeple]

Ohh

Woahh

[uneven citrus]

I got my sources

[thorny steeple]

Are you struggling in setting up goals or in trying to pursue them?

[formal pilot]

I can pin point his country

[thorny steeple]

lmao

[uneven citrus]

go ahead

[thorny steeple]

Sir no 💀

[thorny steeple]

i think i would end up to commit suicide

[uneven citrus]

umm

committing*

[thorny steeple]

I almost did that last year

[uneven citrus]

ayo what

[thorny steeple]

I think taking anti depressives or any other med like that can help you

I discovered last year that many people from Med Schools for example are constantly trying to suicide, and they take many drugs to avoid that

[thorny steeple]

nah struggling to setting up goals, i think goals are too easy to pursue ,eventually it just takes times to fulfil

[formal pilot]

Curiosity is a privilege. If you are too busy slaving away barely making ends meet, you don't have a lot of time to try new things or explore.

[formal pilot]

Nevermind

[sharp creek]

You have the option to join the global pursuit of wealth, which could grant you access to an entirely different world—one where you have the freedom to do whatever you desire

[thorny steeple]

Hmm, idk how to help you

[sharp creek]

or you can just talk to me,nobody likes me in real world

[thorny steeple]

I found many goals by reading books (mostly about philosophy), by choosing hard and big goals as a way to boost my self development, or by surrounding myself with people I like and then "copying" them or smth (idk how to describe it correctly)

[thorny steeple]

Even in engineering too

e.g. exactly rn I was seeing many people trying to help each other to build free software, and then that motivated me to try to help them the way I can

[thorny steeple]

good to know

[formal pilot]

On the other hand I'm getting away from the books, i prefer more physically engaging things

[thorny steeple]

like what

[sharp creek]

I can develop software, and I'd like to make money from it. Anything legal is acceptable if you need it and willing to pay for it .tell me

[thorny steeple]

i do not have a depression tho, it is too normal for human to think that philosophical way

[formal pilot]

Lately I'm enjoying gardening a lot and capturing some wild animals

[thorny steeple]

I mean, any kind of stimulant thing

[sharp creek]

where do you live china or singapore

[thorny steeple]

I was thinking some days ago that one reason I didn't commit suicide was because of the many stimulant things I drink everyday

[thorny steeple]

yeah true tho,for example when i was young, i pretty exciting to explore new countries, new games,have enthusiastic to do new things, but now i am not that much excited anymore i used to do.

[uneven citrus]

am I wild enough

[formal pilot]

Near border, yes

[formal pilot]

This capitalist world is forcing us to put down the most precious gift we've, curiosity

[thorny steeple]

try to surround yourself with different people

that personally motivate me a lot

discovering new things/people make me discover new goals I didn't even know I had

If that makes sense

[earnest axle]

Isn't about time.

[formal pilot]

• we also have a shortcut to fill our boredom lol, back in the day boredom used to be the pillars for curiosity

Rn we've cheap entertainment a few clicks away

[sharp creek]

wtf ,im admiring you have so many times

[earnest axle]

Actually nobody cares about you existence in real world.
That's what do u felt is because your mind build that

[sharp creek]

I don’t really care, but it’s the truth

the world around me is insane

you can t image our life, just like a huge jail

Sorry, I’m not interrupting on purpose. I do care about the Singaporean man

[thorny steeple]

yeah i got it thanks for your advice

[sharp creek]

sir do you live in china! am i right

[thorny steeple]

actually who cares about a ordinary person who does not contribute anything in this world

[thorny steeple]

hongkong

[thorny steeple]

i used to live in mianalnd china for thoughout my childhood

[near blaze]

bunoma

[sharp creek]

glad you are not living in mainland...Is the situation in Hong Kong as bad as in the mainland now

[thorny steeple]

btw, I didn't mention that my habit of always getting out of my comfort zone is a self motivator to me too.
"Getting out of the comfort zone" = metaphor for doing something new, and stop doing what I used to do
So yeah, I believe doing new things may help you to set new goals indirectly

[thorny steeple]

i wont live in mainland, i love freedom more than anyone else

if i live in mainalnd china , i have to buy a vpn which i can access high speed interent without limits

[sharp creek]

sorry i should be positive

[thorny steeple]

yeah that is true tho it helps me a lot to gain a lot of new things and culture👍

[thorny steeple]

it is alright no worries

[sharp creek]

i think having a kid will be useful

its funny

[thorny steeple]

you started it in serious chat, I didnt even talked abou tit. Have some guts to speak truth or you want to be like modi or bjp

[thorny steeple]

In serious chat I started it
But our conversation didn't start in serious chat
It started in general when I joked that everyone is so political
Then u began all Gaza this that
We all in general chat were chilling

[thorny steeple]

nah Baloch dont want independece, we literlly have been there, they have elections there, they kill engineers and chinese buildings its obvious the US and India

[sharp creek]

I know this might sound inappropriate, but finding a girlfriend with money is an interesting idea

[thorny steeple]

in proxy war you do whatever you see, whats wrrong with that how about the terroist who kill university stu and bomb school they are by india

[sharp creek]

although im poor

[thorny steeple]

sikh support khalistan directly or indirectly

[thorny steeple]

becuase hindus or sikh were agisnt pakistan, they want india here. we make hindus law minister there are non hindus judges

[thorny steeple]

I'll be hearing what Balochistan wants from a Balochi
Not from u.
Bengali has right to speak on Bengal
Palestinians on Palestine
Greek on Greece.
Kashmiri on Kashmir

[thorny steeple]

Go read actual Khalsa Sikhs are a great proud people
I respect them most
What happened to them was wrong Congress Pakistani Rawalpindi, or Aurangzeb Sikh gurus stuff

But go read actual Khalsa before saying Sikhs support khalistan

[thorny steeple]

im balochi

[thorny steeple]

i can invite kashmiri too

[thorny steeple]

Of course u are and like I care tbh

you wanna meet kashmiris

[thorny steeple]

Mate my classmate is Kashmiri

[thorny steeple]

ill have you meet kashmiris

I literally told u Kashmir is for Kashmiris

[thorny steeple]

thats our president saying, you rape and kill them

while paksitani kashmir is independent they have their own consti, flag and prime minister

[thorny steeple]

I support Kashmir don't worry
What I don't support is them becoming terrorists Killin innocent Pilgrim or innocent teachers like girja tikku who just wanna live

[thorny steeple]

then they should vote so that whole muslim world and non muslim can see is india right or pakistan.

its people of kashmir who ask paksitani for help

[thorny steeple]

That was only one incident in past
5000 reports only
And we punished all officers who did that

But did u punish all Pakistani officers who did Bengali genocide 3 million deaths 250,000+ rapes?

I'm saying maximum number cuz 5000 is the maximum number of Kashmir incident too

[sharp creek]

id like to join the argue but i really know nothing about religions
ill say something to myself

[thorny steeple]

wrong according to 1999 un report it was 10k by indian armu

hindus do that by support of gov

[thorny steeple]

10k ok
And 3 million?
Is that comparable?

[thorny steeple]

And who did 250,000+ r@pes by support of whom?
And why are u blaming one religion again ?

[thorny steeple]

accordingto dhaka university there was no attrocities of 3 million there were 2 million and few rapes, pakistani apologized on those, 2 times and recently will do it again as they are getting closer, also according to professors of dhaka pakistani authorities didnt commit these horrible things these were fake propaganda by indians

[thorny steeple]

Im not blaming any religion

Even in general chat u only said about incident where Muslim were Victims
Are u trynna spread a narrative that all Muslim are innocent while only non Muslims are villains?
I can show u several news where Muslims were the doers of crimes non Muslim the victim

I'm not targetting a specific community u are.

[thorny steeple]

Ur words say something else U just said " Hindus Sid that by support of government"
U could have said indian army did that
But u Targeted a specific religion

[thorny steeple]

its obvious on world who is suffering in palestine issue, who is suffering in burma, who is suffering in Kahsmir, Who is suffering in India, how about Islamophob

[thorny steeple]

I didnt target a relgion if majiority is of sikhs I have to mention, the nation or ethnicity will do. I have to mention that

[earnest axle]

@oomnimercy ?

[thorny steeple]

Dead people can't say if they were raped or not.

Also from Ur own point
2 million
And 10,000

That's like comparing a drop of blood to a dress covered in blood mate

Now you can study your own and dont ping me without coming with evidence

[earnest axle]

@cloud raven i 👋

[sharp creek]

what..

[thorny steeple]

I mention only 1999 read before and you before done by you,

[sharp creek]

talking about religon is not allowed here?

[thorny steeple]

again I said Pakistani govt apologized go on

[thorny steeple]

In India?
Eh
Ur Pakistani and Trt only shows when Muslims are victims
There are so many cases in which Hindus are killed by Muslim in India
Why aren't u talkin about that mate?

[thorny steeple]

Indian government also apologized and punished those officers buddy
So Ur point?

[cloud raven]

@earnest axle WEll, Hi there

[thorny steeple]

send me letter of apology

and who did they apologized

Indian apologized to indian

[earnest axle]

Ops sorry I think I mentioned the wrong person but hi

[uneven citrus]

it is allowed

[sharp creek]

ohh thats nice..

its interesting everything is new for me

[uneven citrus]

I guess

endless arguments tho

[thorny steeple]

U can simply look up in YouTube or Google or any international unbiased news site

And still if U want me to send u then first send me where Pakistani government apologized and where they punished all those folks

[sharp creek]

hhaha but i m seriouslu curious about jews. its like lengend.

[thorny steeple]

there is no letter or news about that

[thorny steeple]

fr

[thorny steeple]

Then if I mention Muslims in all my comments on genocides and atrocities on indian side would that make u happy?

[sharp creek]

someone claims they are smart. someone says they are as wicked as evil itself

[thorny steeple]

There's no letter or news of Ur army being punished for the atrocities either is there?
Also I'm sure there is I remember reading a report myself 2 yrs ago
God knows where that report is rn don't have so much time to find it

[uneven citrus]

they all be defending their fictional people from some books

[thorny steeple]

based

[sharp creek]

why nobody cares about the most smart religon in the world
pls who d like to tell me something about jews . they are the justice or the wicked ones.

[thorny steeple]

did India apologze to Pakistan or which people

then we can carry talk

[cloud raven]

it's ok happens

[thorny steeple]

dont ping me

[uneven citrus]

"umm... sorry 👉👈"

[thorny steeple]

There's literally so many reports where Hindus are victims of Muslim violence in India every month
And vice versa too
But Ur Pakistani and Trt media only show's the news where Muslims are victims

U blame west and bjp for spreading biased narrative against Muslims showing only them doing crimes

But when U do it itself when Ur people spread same biased narrative it becomes ok?
That doesn't sound fair

[thorny steeple]

Even Muslim were against india.
But we don't blame Muslims in our books in our constitution
Hell if tomorrow a person like Dr apj Abdul Kalam comes we'd make him our prime minister instantly
We don't hold onto prejudice like u folks

[uneven citrus]

womp womp

[thorny steeple]

Also I read that report debate of Sashi Tharoor and I've read an article that those people were punished
I'm at Metro station rn so my internet isn't working so I'm not able to send rn
I'll send later

[thorny steeple]

A letter of apology means nothing
Main thing is were those people punished for committing those atrocities?
For mostly targetting non Muslims
Were they punished?

India and Pakistan stand on same level of blood mate
Don't act superior
Especially cuz 2 million is far worse than supposed 10k

Also what about the doctor who u guys killed for accusation of blasphemy in Pakistan in sindh ?
Who was innocent even his dead body u didn't let be buried a Hindu guy helped the doctor family get his body to be buried

Our people are CEO's in USA UK meanwhile urs are Hafiz Saeed and many more Rotterdam scandal folks

Anyways gtg it's my train to go home and I gotta read Quran with a friend too I promised him
So adios amigo

Also didn't y'all burn alive a Sri Lankan man for accusation of blasphemy I still have that video if U want it
When U can't even treat innocent doctor or workers
When Ur people are like zombies ready to kill on basis of accusation

Then I apologize it was stupid of me to think you'll keep Ur non Muslim population safe
Rotterdam scandal in UK is perfect example of U folks even in 21st century
Yet u keep pushing on blame actin all innocent
Despite Logically knowing 2 million is so so far worse compared to a mere 10k
Also gender equality rank in Ur country is 145 out of 146 I don't need to know the rest to know what kinda folks u are.

[thorny steeple]

why do 2 muslim countries have a conflict

[manic juniper]

Nationalism

[verbal torrent]

Dafuq

Chill

[manic juniper]

Are you participating to the protests

[verbal torrent]

I wish
But my family don’t let me

[manic juniper]

I think it's better, what if they open fire on civilians

[verbal torrent]

Or what if they arrest me

[real monolith]

Dress as charmander

[verbal torrent]

Ahhahaha did u see thatt

[real monolith]

Yep. So good haha

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-turkey-running-running-away-gif-11771683812748062377

[prisma cipher]

Good family.

[verbal torrent]

No

[prisma cipher]

I mean smart

First of all it pointless, also dangerous. Also I consider all people there stupid. Those who young might getting smart in the future, if you see old there they stupid without recovering.

Small addition. For young it kinda normal.

All teens are stupid

[verbal torrent]

But do we have to sit at home and accept everything and do nothing
North Korea Iran and Afghanistan etc are the way they are because they did this
It is not pointless because we say to them that we are here as a people and we raise our voices by doing that (now everyone boycotting the brand which is stand w the government)we did sth like this in 2013 it lasted 3 months but it worked

[prisma cipher]

I don't want the fate of my country to be controlled by a bunch of running people on the street. But like I said for teens it kinda normal behavior

[verbal torrent]

Pffffft neyrooo

[prisma cipher]

Kanka

[earnest axle]

@agile mortar horney lol

[thorny steeple]

india is hindu

[real token]

fr

[native fiber]

☕️

[thorny steeple]

are you from pakistan

[real token]

yeaj

[main bison]

Mr Trump was in my dream

[haughty wing]

hi guys

[manic juniper]

True, at least some people need to protest to avoid this from happening

[haughty wing]

how is it going?

[cyan flame]

To be a Christian, you must unwaveringly believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself and the Son of God, who took on human form, died for humanity’s sins, and rose from the grave to grant salvation. This belief demands your public declaration, as the King James Bible states in Romans 10:9: “If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” Your life must then align with prayer, obedience to Scripture, and submission to His divine authority—His grace alone sustains you. When convincing others, demonstrate the gravity of this truth through your actions and words, proclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord. Warn them solemnly: rejecting Jesus Christ as Lord condemns them to eternal hell, as the Bible makes clear. Urge them to accept Him or face the consequences.

[sour phoenix]

So are you catholic or protestant or something else idk

[compact halo]

Umm... no. Lots of folks don't completely agree with that, and are still considered Christian.

[cyan flame]

To be a Christian, you must believe that ★Jesus Christ★ is God and the Son of God, who died for our sins ✞ and rose to grant salvation, confessing with your mouth and believing in your heart ♥ as Romans 10:9 states, living with prayer and obedience to Scripture under His grace, proclaiming Him as Lord to others, and warning that rejecting Him leads to eternal hell—accept Him or face the consequences.

[ashen mortar]

To be honest

[shy summit]

Who?

[thorny steeple]

They're called heretics

[compact halo]

So what? Some Christians call other Christians heretics and that makes them not Christians for some reason?

[thorny steeple]

Not at all, Catholics condemn protestantism as a heresy but they're Christians. As for not recognizing Jesus as God, well...

[compact halo]

What was the point of saying they're called heretics, then?

[native fiber]

Jesus(عیسا) is a prophet like the others and never God
These are people who want to destroy the religion
They say he is God or anything
And now they want to destroy Islam likewise

God is never seen on earth and never comes to earth

Just think about it

But I'm sure you won't change your mind now because you've been told that since the beginning of your life

but. That's wrong

[manic juniper]

Why

[native fiber]

Because when Moses said, God, I want to see you God told him I cannot show myself to you Because you can’t stand to see me And God would show Himself to a mountain in a small amount the size of a needle hole At that time the mountain will fall because not only man but also the earth cannot see God

[manic juniper]

Why couldn't Moses stand to see God

[native fiber]

Because God is so much more powerful than we can see Him Because we can't stand to see it is much stronger than we think

[uneven citrus]

source = trust me bro

[native fiber]

Haha you're funny

[sand merlin]

Many Christians believe salvation is not only about confessing faith but also about living a life of love, compassion, and service. Focusing too much on consequences creates fear instead of encouraging real faith. Also, views on salvation differ across denominations, some believe God’s mercy extends beyond this life. Where did God’s unconditional love go in your explanation?

[uneven citrus]

religious womp womp

[sand merlin]

I like your profile picture Diegoss, if I may ask, where is it from?

[near blaze]

The internet probably

[thorny steeple]

The language used by most Palestinians nowadays is antisemitic. Even if they meant the Israeli government , they shouldn’t add citizens with it. And they shouldn’t add the general Jews with it.

Language is the way of communicating ideas and if you are not careful with how you communicate hatred, then a large group of people is going to attack you for it

Hating the way the government is, and protesting over that is fair. And Palestinians should be empowered and do protests. But then attacking groups of civilians unrelated to the government is a way to start a war. Whatever H did is wrong.

And I will reiterate. I believe a secular Palestine is ideal

[deep zephyr]

The word Palestine is a racial slur against Jewish people

So, their whole existence is wrong for them

[thorny steeple]

Not really. There is a difference between Palestine and philistines

[deep zephyr]

I suggest you watch some videos of how Israeli people talks about Palestinians. Not all but a lot of them

[thorny steeple]

And the philistines are different anyways plus they were dispersed across the world according to the Tanakh, rightfully so because they “disobeyed” god

[near blaze]

Really

[deep zephyr]

You can check the racial slur database on Wikipedia. It's there

[deep zephyr]

It's anything that's Palestine or Palestinian

[thorny steeple]

However since the Palestinian land is promised to the Jacobean line of the Abrahamic descendants, the tanakh promises to return the land back to them once they become religious Jews again

[maiden jungle]

Chat looks serious

[thorny steeple]

The word Palestine has nothing to do with the ancient philistines. But even if we assume it does, let us not call it Palestine or Israel. as long as they make it secular without any religious symbols in the flag. Deal?

[deep zephyr]

If I check my ancestry now and it says I'm German. Do u think German people would just say yes come and take our lands and live here

[thorny steeple]

Of course not. The Palestinians were originally Jews anyway

[maiden jungle]

[thorny steeple]

And even if they weren’t. I disagree with Judaism anyway

Land does not belong to a religion

[deep zephyr]

On technicalities everyone one belongs to Abrahamic religion was supposed to be Jewish at some point

But that's not the case

[thorny steeple]

No

[deep zephyr]

Which one came first, remind me again?

[thorny steeple]

Again as I said, it was promised to the JACOBEAN line of Abraham not the others

In the Jewish scripture

[deep zephyr]

Tell them that

[thorny steeple]

Abraham didn’t have any religion that he created

[deep zephyr]

Oh men!!! Do I have to tell u about Abrahamic religion history

You'll find the chart easily on the internet tho

[thorny steeple]

Are you trying to talk about the three religions

[deep zephyr]

Technically it's one religion divided by prophets. Same God

[thorny steeple]

These were religions sent out by Moses Jesus and Mohammed

Give me the name of the religion that Abraham gave out.

Lol

[deep zephyr]

The one religion lol

[thorny steeple]

I don’t think you understand me

[deep zephyr]

Those three are just bastard children's

[thorny steeple]

So we agree

[deep zephyr]

He was the first

[thorny steeple]

No but

You don’t get it

[deep zephyr]

There's a reason it's called Abrahamic religion

[hazy lava]

Slay 💅

[thorny steeple]

The Jewish scripture does not promise it to all descendants of Abraham

It promises it to Jacobean descendants

Which have nothing to do with Ismael - who is the ancestor of Islam

[deep zephyr]

There are two side actually. Or two sections

Jewish and Christians are on one side and Muslims on the other if I can recall

[thorny steeple]

From Jacob came Jesus and Moses

[deep zephyr]

Jewish and Christians side had most of the prophets

[thorny steeple]

Yeah Mohammed from the Ismael side

Jesus and Moses from Jacob side

[deep zephyr]

There were others

Other prophets

[thorny steeple]

Habibi I’m aware of the tree

I’m discussing the three religions because these are the ones relevant to Palestine

[deep zephyr]

More than three

There were more prophets than three

[thorny steeple]

Okay bro

[deep zephyr]

Those three just have dedicated cults

There's Noah

[thorny steeple]

This is the Islamic version of the tree

[deep zephyr]

Abraham was literally a prophet

[thorny steeple]

Okay? Okay

[deep zephyr]

Yonus

[thorny steeple]

Now let’s discuss the topic at hand

[deep zephyr]

What was the topic again?

Israel bombing Children's?

Bro I'm not religious. But fuck I draw the line at genocide

Israel is the powerful country with support from America

[thorny steeple]

The Christians are out of sight out of mind for the Jews because the Jews count them as people who deviated from god. So the land is promised to the Jews according to the Jews. The Christians count it as judeochristian land because they are Jacobean descendants. The Muslims believe that the Jacobean line went against god and therefore it is supposed to be land under islamic rule where Jews and Christians can live under

[deep zephyr]

Israel is basically an American state. Without their support they wouldn't exist

[thorny steeple]

I am against Israeli government

I have said this before. I say it again

[deep zephyr]

That's the problem, isn't it?

[thorny steeple]

This is the core of the issue

[deep zephyr]

Greed and brainwashed information

[thorny steeple]

It’s the religious scripture system

The core of the problem are the religions

[deep zephyr]

Plus it's not about religion anymore. Not really, usa having a proxy nation in the middle east has its own benefits

Natural resources like oil was the main reason for all the conflicts in middle east

[thorny steeple]

For the USA it isn’t
For the Israelis and Palestinians it is

[deep zephyr]

It's the usa who's In charge tho

[thorny steeple]

Not really

[deep zephyr]

Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron

[deep zephyr]

For Israel, yes

[thorny steeple]

The civilians and government can kick the US bases off anytime they want to

[deep zephyr]

That's what they want u to believe and it's working. No government in middle east will dare

[thorny steeple]

The US is leveraging the religious problem for its military and resource benefit

[deep zephyr]

Because they know if they do that

There will be war and their country will be in ruins

[thorny steeple]

The way the USA gets its power is through its military bases in countries

[deep zephyr]

Mostly oil. Their currency and economy is backed against it

[thorny steeple]

For example Greenland

[deep zephyr]

Greenland is a whole different topic

[thorny steeple]

Either way, the problem between the Israelis and the Palestinians is religious

But the USA is using its military power to absorb resources

And yes in this case the USA is the most powerful

[deep zephyr]

Take usa out of the equation. There will be no Israel.

They will settle somewhere else happily

[thorny steeple]

Not really. They have accumulated huge masses of land

And built houses and economies

And raised generations of children

[deep zephyr]

They will leave within weeks if usa says we don't care what happens to u anymore

[thorny steeple]

They wouldn’t

[deep zephyr]

Their whole country is backed by usa

Defense and economy

[thorny steeple]

Just because it is backed by the USA does not mean that they fall apart once the US is out of the equation

As I said, these people feel connected to the land just as much as we Palestinians feel

They have built cities and raised generations over that land

Over years of colonization

[deep zephyr]

There's no way Israeli would agree to suffer as much as Palestinians to stay there. Many of them already left because iran dropped a few bombs

[thorny steeple]

This is something you and I cannot judge up until it actually happens

So let’s leave speculation out of the door

[deep zephyr]

USA will not stop their support as long as dollar is backed against oil

If that changes. You'll find out

[thorny steeple]

I know that Gaza has lots of oil

[deep zephyr]

Sarcasm.wow

[thorny steeple]

I’m from Gaza lol

[deep zephyr]

It's not about Gaza. It's about the region

[thorny steeple]

Gaza is just the start

Again, the Jews believe they have the rightful take all over Canaan

[deep zephyr]

They need a presence there to maintain oil prices and make sure dollar is used for trading

[thorny steeple]

Because the land of Canaan was promised. Not just Palestine

And the US is leveraging that fact to take over resources

I’m not denying what you’re saying. It’s just. I disagree with your point on whether Israelis feel intimate about the land or not. Believe me, They do.

[deep zephyr]

If don't think it was very strategic from usa and its Allies to support the foundation of Israel. There's no point talking

[thorny steeple]

And I’m not against their existence. Our enemy as Palestinians is the colonization through resources

[deep zephyr]

They won't when bombs actually drops on their homes. Which rarely happens

[thorny steeple]

I agree that it is strategic that the USA is doing this. But again. The point of disagreement is: you believe that the Israelis don’t care much about the land. I don’t

[deep zephyr]

It's nice to be patriotic and religious from your comfort

[deep zephyr]

I said they don't as much as Palestinians.

[thorny steeple]

I disagree

I think it’s almost equal

[deep zephyr]

Let's agree to disagree because neither of us are gonna change our mind

[deep zephyr]

No way but ok

[thorny steeple]

I’ve seen how patriotic they can be

Not all of them but many

[deep zephyr]

By doing what?

Exactly

Israeli are posh people mostly

While Palestinians are from the working class

How they treat life is very different

Those two class have nothing alike

[thorny steeple]

At least the land close to Jerusalem is of importance to them so even if they don’t get all of Canaan they want to keep Jerusalem

[feral river]

I prefer Israeli Arabs

[prisma cipher]

@feral river https://youtu.be/78fYm4VTfvw?si=uZYiKyQGZ1RsJpHl watch timing 17:34 this place a month ago was in Ukrainian occupation. It's village in Kursk

18+ content, dangerous alerts. It all blurred. But still. Not for kids

[thorny steeple]

Arab Israelis you mean like Druze and Christian ?

[oak patrol]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

are u durzia?

[thorny steeple]

no

im atheist

ic

[thorny steeple]

u israili?

[thorny steeple]

no

[thorny steeple]

ur name looks arab name

im arab palestinian atheist

but u are not living in gaza rn ig

[sharp creek]

wow real jews

whats the difference between jews and israel ...

are you smarter than other races

[thorny steeple]

israel is not necessarily all jews. jews are not necessarily israelis

[sharp creek]

Is this true that you are very smart in doing business, but being set up by others.
especially the part about the price of bread in germany and persecuted by Hitler. im curious

[thorny steeple]

im not jewish lol

[sharp creek]

ok im just curious .its like a lengend . nobody knows the truth

[sharp creek]

its the same sir

many white people claim that jews controll their policies.....are these the truth

As you said, the object of every sentence when talking about Jews should distinguish how deeply this Jewish person is connected with the government. That’s nonsense. The world doesn’t work like that. It’s idealism and not possible at all.

Just like not every Palestinian is a terrorist. I’m not trying to judge from any particular standpoint.

[thorny steeple]

Italy has returned to the "zero point" in terms of GDP growth in 2024. We are behind a whopping 20 countries, yet Meloni is celebrating.
Forecast of an increase in public debt relative to GDP, precisely due to the zeroing out of growth.
Sell-off of state holdings such as Poste, Eni, Ferrovie;
Decline in industrial production in 2023, with 12 consecutive months of negative figures;
Failure of the "Tricolor Cart" anti-inflation initiative, with the cost of food items rising by 9.8% in 2023, even more than the peak in 2022;
Disheartening backtrack on the taxation of bank extra profits, turned into an optional contribution with zero revenue for the state;
Contraction of bank credit to the private sector at the end of 2023 (-2.8%);
Decline in gross fixed investments by businesses in the first 9 months of 2023 (-5.8%);
Drop in household purchasing power in the first 9 months of 2023 (-1.2%);
Inability to implement the PNRR (National Recovery and Resilience Plan), with only 7.4% of the resources spent in 2023;
Cuts to the South amounting to 15 billion, including the defunding of PNRR projects in southern municipalities, cuts to the Infrastructure Equalization Fund, cuts to the Development and Cohesion Fund to finance the Strait Bridge, and cuts to investments for the decarbonization of Ilva;
Defunding of 14 billion for public healthcare investments relative to GDP compared to the ceiling inherited from the Conte II government (from 7.1% to 6.4% of GDP);
The single telecommunications network, a strategic asset for the country, handed over to a group of foreign funds, with the Ministry of Economy and Finance throwing away over 2 billion for a meager and irrelevant stake;
Zero resources to finance the Essential Levels of Services within the disastrous Calderoli Law on differentiated autonomy, which will further divide the country

[sharp creek]

OMG, these Jews are bad at sports, except for the ones living at 123456 Herzl Street, Apartment 5, Tel Aviv, 678910, Israel,
and 123456 Ben Gurion Avenue, Suite 12, Jerusalem, 9012345, Israel.

its fake address by the way

[thorny steeple]

@shell lily

[sharp creek]

why nobody calls me racist here................

[near blaze]

racist

[sharp creek]

!!

[lusty zenith]

I don't call you that because I'm just like you

[shell lily]

So by far she has managed to reduce migration and the public deficit of GDP
Idk if she can call that a victory

[thorny steeple]

she released almasri, wanted for crime against humanity, and he also manages the illegal immigrants that comes to italy lol

she is just insane

[shell lily]

But there must be a reason for that

[thorny steeple]

he was stopped and put in prison by the Italian police but was later released on 21 January on the orders of the Court of Appeal due to a procedural error: it was an irregular arrest, because the International Criminal Court had not previously sent the documents to the Guardiasigillia Nordio.

it was a bs thing, he even got sent back with a State's flight, so everything paid by the gov on a private jet, for a dude wanted for graped,torture, kidnapping etcetcetc

nordio is the justice's minister btw

[manic juniper]

If he's omnipotent can't he make himself visible

[thorny steeple]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSr22aPev/

[shell lily]

Doesn't that seem like a legit reason to you?

(I'm just askin btw)

[thorny steeple]

nope, cause he was wanted, but italian burocracy it's so slow, they couldnt arrest him cause of some documents lmao

[shell lily]

but you said it is because the International Criminal Court had not previously sent the documents to the Guardiasigillia Nordio

[thorny steeple]

yeah, but cause the documents dint arrive it in time. They could have easily waited a day or more, but instead they released him right away

[shell lily]

Like how? they preferred to take him on a private jet and incur more expenses instead of waiting?

[thorny steeple]

for my personal opinion, so nothing official, mafia is involved, cause the illegal immigrants are a business for them, and he was the one managing one of the biggest prison in libia

[shell lily]

Yeah everything is possible
Plus some businesses already need migrants since some jobs are neglected by the locals
migrants are useful but within some limits

[thorny steeple]

tbf italian burocracy it's just a mess, so legally he was good to go, but he is wanted by the interpol😭 you cant just let him free

[thorny steeple]

yeah, here most of the underpaid job are made by them, and most of the time they dont even have document or a contracts so they cant even complain

[fallen flicker]

How can I concentrate to study?

I can’t focus

[shell lily]

Make Italia great again

[thorny steeple]

yeah i m gonna become next pm

[shell lily]

Will you accept me as an immigrant

[thorny steeple]

legal or illegal?

[shell lily]

you invite me so i become legal malhead

[thorny steeple]

then ofc habibi

[feral river]

You successfully remind me a famous word again

⚖️🙅🔫🟰🧻

[thorny steeple]

tff is that real?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

wait is ur email porcosmth?

[manic juniper]

No it's the profile name on that site

[thorny steeple]

Why is it porco...?

[manic juniper]

Burner account

[thorny steeple]

mb but...idk what that is

[manic juniper]

It's like an account you use for random stuff or to avoid getting spam mails

[twilit stump]

I also got a similar email in my burner gmail

[thorny steeple]

Oh i see i see, tbh didnt expect a bestemmia as a name for email

[uneven terrace]

Hy

[native fiber]

Like I said, we can’t stand to see it It's normal I know you don't believe this but maybe you believe that a human being is God and This is not true Everyone has an opinion, but I never consider him God Because that's like a joke

[manic juniper]

We can't, but he could make it possible don't you think, he's god after all

[native fiber]

Anyway, I don't think so

He is only a prophet

[manic juniper]

I'm talking about god himself

The one who spoke to Moses

Since Christians and Muslims agree on this

[native fiber]

Which I am talking about Jesus who they say is God and came to earth But I say Jesus is not the Son of God or God. He is a prophet.
And about God yes He is able to do all things Yes, if he wanted to, he would, but he didn't But obviously he doesn't want to, so we can't see him And this is because of the first reason I told you

[night cedar]

The dude who split the sea?

[native fiber]

Tawrat, Zaboor, Injeel and Quran if you can read these But in the end, then read the Qur'an
I am sure you will understand that our only goal is justice, equality of rights and against injustice And read it yourself, they will understand, but read all the books before the Qur'an to see the difference. I am not saying that other books are bad, but we consider the Qur'an to be the last heavenly book And you will find the same when you read

[manic juniper]

Why doesn't he

[manic juniper]

I think so

[native fiber]

For what reason do you think he is the Son of God

[dapper laurel]

Interesting

[manic juniper]

I don't, I'm not a Christian

I'm asking why doesn't god make himself visible to humans since he's omnipotent

[dapper laurel]

@thorny steeple on the same level of trallalerotrallalà

[native fiber]

Because I told you He doesn't want us to see Him until the end of the world. We, the earth and everything here cannot stand to see Him because He is much stronger than that Just think about it

[native fiber]

What do you believe.

[manic juniper]

Reptiles

[manic juniper]

Well he could simply make the Earth not collapse after seeing him, I can see an omnipotent being preventing that from happening

It's like standing on a small table, if the table can't support your weight you simply reinforce it

[native fiber]

God Himself did not want it. There is obviously a purpose
And go and read the Qur'an all that is in it
You will see why he does not show himself to us But he's much bigger and stronger than you think

Just a suggestion go read it

[manic juniper]

Did you read the Quran

[thorny steeple]

Welp lmao

@dapper laurel so oversimplified is a good start towards learning very beginning into history then moving into much more technical YouTubers and different time periods, like the armchair historian, Kings & generals, simple history, and others

[dapper laurel]

I think so, even though I don't watch much history videos on YouTube

Anyway, you know what it means the brainrot "bombardilo crocodilo"

[ancient mauve]

Buongiorno

[thorny steeple]

True they might have errors of When you look deeper but they are good tbh

[thorny steeple]

Not entirely tbh I think I saw it once or my memory is lying to me tbh

[prisma cipher]

Good who

[thorny steeple]

I recommend you metatron such good YouTube on the host you tend to like, and tasting history with max miller

[thorny steeple]

Oversimplified and simple history English speaking channels

[prisma cipher]

I watch preview, not my content, but if it getting popular, and if people like to watch it like that, why not

[thorny steeple]

Nice I honestly tend to watch very obscure videos

Like how we got super computers and normal every computers

Or how Japan was doing before it's economy crashed

And the state of the yen nowadays

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nEazHqDQZ30\

I believe Trump heard that

don't wait it anymore, march toward Ottawa and burn their parliament

[thorny steeple]

Well this ain't the 1776-1783

There was a American force sent into Quebec if I believe

[feral river]

annex the Canada, will solve every problem americans have

[true lark]

Unless nukes are involved that is a very very bad idea

[thorny steeple]

Keep Canada independent we already done with 50 states

[true lark]

You do realise what happens to the economy of an annexed place, you also do realise the toll waging a war against NATO would be? It would in no way benefit the US currently

[feral river]

don't you have the dream of being a ruler from your superior nation to take whatever you want in the new land ?

[feral river]

there's no NATO without the US

all of NATO members besides the US combine their army and military capabilities together, can't face against US military

[true lark]

See, one problem there, there is. Significantly less powerful sure but there still is

[feral river]

they are nothing

[thorny steeple]

That's so 19th century let's live into the 21st into the era of unifying governments towards one singular government

[true lark]

They are billions if not trillions of dollars

[feral river]

they can't even try to challenge the US military even they combine their army all together

that's a simple truth

[true lark]

It will not be free for the US to take Canada

[thorny steeple]

True it has price and a cost ofc

[feral river]

it's not free, but it will not be costly as you think, Canada don't have capabilities to defend themselves

I think if US want they can take Canadian major cities in weeks

then annex the entirety of Canada within a year

[true lark]

I cant with you

[native fiber]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Gotta love having a gorilla warfare situation on North America no else

[thorny steeple]

Welcome to 652 Nia

[feral river]

ah huh not to american bombs

and these region does not have much mountains but mostly empty with plains

[thorny steeple]

Bro hasn't seen much of Canada isn't like new or Washington DC only the southern area looks like there is civilization

[feral river]

so basically you can just drive the tanks march to their crucial supply regions and cut off their city, they will die by themselves

just another battle of Leningrad

[true lark]

Wtf is 652 anyways

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but Canada has mountains lol

[thorny steeple]

@feral river

[feral river]

not much

Poland also has mountains does that stopped Germans to take over Warsaw and defeat them completely ?

not a chance dude

they are nothing to the US military

[thorny steeple]

Bro Poland sits flat area

Unlike German which parts of it have mountains and some don't have natural defenses

[feral river]

btw over 90% of their population was nearby to the US border region, it's just too ez to take them over

and for their vast territory they can take them gradually just like what they have done to western region of the US

California gold remember ?

if they resist, drive the tanks

[true lark]

That would be a much better strategy, yeah

[thorny steeple]

If you seem on this map the heavy resistance will be on the forests or mountain area of Canada

[true lark]

You're forgetting the fact that the US isn't the only country with nukes though, I feel like forcefully taking Canada would be about when the point of no return would be reached

[manic juniper]

Isn't it explained there

[feral river]

ah huh

[thorny steeple]

Damn that was in the 1840s lmao

[feral river]

Canada does not have nukes

[thorny steeple]

And tanks were not a thing back when Texas or California was independent

[fallow pewter]

Hello guys, how can I find a place where I can practice my English

[true lark]

Russia is proof you can't win a war by military superiority alone

Wrong reply but whatever

[feral river]

btw it's crazy if we just use nukes to intimidate them... not a good idea

but we have that

[modest quiver]

Anyone preparing for ielts here??

[true lark]

So yeah Canada doesn't, rest of nato does

[thorny steeple]

True Napoleon got his ass kicked along with his imperial ambitions lost

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[true lark]

If its 60 nukes or 6000, still screws the US up

[thorny steeple]

Forgot the Nukes McArthur

[shy summit]

Can we please not advocate for the invasion of sovereign territories?

That’s quite enough with the imperialistic regime’isms.

[thorny steeple]

@lavish creek Sup

[gaunt bronze]

Nah this is crazy 💀

“Invading Canada” 🤓

Opps from sm weird places advocating for it

Ppl here acting like they’re American

If Canada were invaded it would get decimated like it’s common sense it like pmo how obvious that is

It’s just that the invasion itself is never gonna happen

[thorny steeple]

Fr I'm American and the people here that I seem don't say that stuff tbh

[gaunt bronze]

No one in Canada or America cares

[thorny steeple]

Yeah thanks to trumpet 🎺

[gaunt bronze]

Except for people interested in politics and ig just as a craze

[thorny steeple]

Fr what pain lmao

[gaunt bronze]

Nah bc these ppl live far away

[thorny steeple]

Or glazing over America lmao

[gaunt bronze]

They wouldnt understand

[thorny steeple]

True true

[gaunt bronze]

Like Canada is not being annexed

If they tried we’d be cooked but erm the fact is it’s not happening

[thorny steeple]

In like forever ♾️

[gaunt bronze]

It’s like saying

“America can end humanity if it wanted” 🤓

Like sure it can but is it going to? Probably not

Like fr crazy

[thorny steeple]

True it just re-opens imperialism 2.0

[gaunt bronze]

Spectrum-like opp behaviour imo

[thorny steeple]

Fr y'know about the MAD doctrine?

[gaunt bronze]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Neat I feel these people don't tbh

[sharp creek]

i saw the info online saying jews controll the us . is that truth