🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

Yeah probably, Christianity prevented Europe from developing by building universities and figuring out the scienitific method

[main bison]

Ur an Arab u don't defend Islam?

[slender coral]

I'm Arab but fortunately not Muslim.

[main bison]

THEY Burnt any woman who tried to learn anything for blasphemy

[main bison]

Where r u from and what's ur religion

[slender coral]

I'm an Egyptian atheist.

[main bison]

Egyptians r Arab?

[thorny steeple]

The number of people who died in the inquisition was lower than the deathtoll of the terror period in France. It is a misunderstood event

Inquisition was important for combating heresies

[slender coral]

You don't know that we are Arab 😭
Yes we are. And I'm not Coptic.

[main bison]

What is Coptic

[slender coral]

The ethnicity that adheres to Christianity.

[main bison]

R people from morroco and algzire also arab

[slender coral]

Yeah they are considered so.

[main bison]

Huh

[slender coral]

We are Arabized though, not genetically Arabs.

[main bison]

Do u wear that long white Arabic dress

[slender coral]

I didn't

[slender coral]

Did a lot. It's comfortable.

[main bison]

I thought it's the enthicty which their ancestor is clopetara

[slender coral]

He didn't either

[main bison]

Cleopatra?

U need to go ask for his grandmother cause at some point Arabs raped them and ruined pure Egyptian blood

[viral holly]

😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭

I laughed so hard u don't even know

[slender coral]

No bro no lmao

[viral holly]

😭😭😭😂😂😂😂

[main bison]

Egyptians weren't Arab before Arabs from Saudi Ariba invaded them

With aliens

[slender coral]

Yeah, but there weren't large scale rapes. Muslims suppressed religious groups and limited their freedom, with that they were able to Islamize Egypt. They didn't rape their way through it 😭

[viral holly]

By being gay

[main bison]

Then why would you call yourself arab

[slender coral]

Because I'm considered Arab by today's standards. We speak Arabic and have many elements of Arabic culture.

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/VcQA0lp_bRM?si=6podV7LWieNiT9qi

[main bison]

And that's because some Arabs raped ur grandma

[thorny steeple]

In the end unification the world 💀

[slender coral]

Look mate, I really dislike Islam, check my messages history. But this is just not true. Maybe it happened in some regions but I'm sure it didn't happen in Egypt.

[slender coral]

Bruh

[viral holly]

No i can't unfortunately @thorny steeple can be because he says he is a girl

[slender coral]

Share some sources on this.

Youtube isn't a good source.

[main bison]

Do you were underwear under it

[main bison]

YouTubers also mention their sources in description

[slender coral]

We do of course lol
There's special additional piece for it that most people wear under it. It's white pants. And some people would wear sports clothes under it.

[main bison]

Do u also wear it in winter

[slender coral]

I'm an official Islam hater but I really find this hard to believe.

[main bison]

Ur islamophobic

[slender coral]

We do wear it but instead of white Jalabia (It's called Jalabia btw), we wear ones with darker colors. We do also wear jackets on it and more warm clothes underneath it.

[slender coral]

This term is dumb.

[main bison]

Just wear normal cloths at this point

[slender coral]

@main bison what do you think about Islam?

[main bison]

Meh

[slender coral]

It seemed like you were defending it earlier

[main bison]

I'm just telling the truth

[slender coral]

"Islamic golden age", that's another popular stupid term.

[main bison]

I'm neutral

[main bison]

Well Arabs could only found that empire thanks to islam

Golden age wouldn't happen without Islam

Or eh

Maybe it happened if Iranian empire didn't fall

Islam needs an update on some certain rules

Islam says Sex with someone who's not ur wife is a big sin but I asked my Islamic teacher and said you can have sex with a sex worker if you marry her for like a short time

U can recite a prayer in ur mind and say this marriage only lasts for 2 hours and ta-da you escaped hell

[elder seal]

What do you mean by 'update on certain rules'?

[shy summit]

No one in that culture actually believes that

[main bison]

Like quiting Islam has death punishment

[night cedar]

Yeah

[main bison]

Also 4 wives allowed

[elder seal]

So? It's grounded in the hadith

[main bison]

ITS WRONG

It need an update

[elder seal]

What you're asking isn't "Islam to update," but to change to fit a modern conception, you make islam not-islam. You're not asking Islam to update, you're asking islam to cease being islam

[lime cobalt]

Deceiving God

[main bison]

Yeah exactly Islam is not for modern Era

[elder seal]

And I'd ask you this simple question - Why'd a group believing in the universality of the faith, ever take transient values enforced by liberal institutions seriously?

[elder seal]

"Modern era," like any era, it's subject to change - what you consider 'updated' today will be regressive tomorrow. Maybe the death penalty is the update in a 100 years, 17th century values guy

There's no reason for why we'd consider any notion of "progress" as fixed or rigid; in antiquity, women's rights were seen as barbaric and uncivilized - while civilizations higher in development had fewer rights for women, tribes often had more. Good example is the juxtaposition of Germanic tribes with the Romans. So the progress of today as the regression of yesterday

So to regurgitate. Why'd a people who believe in the universality of their faith ever take a series of beliefs based on values that are demonstrably transient seriously?

They probably love you too

[fluid escarp]

I also agree that Islam needs an update I hope they won't nerf atheists with next patch tho they are already really weak

[prisma cipher]

Normal

[slender coral]

How did it happen thanks to Islam? What part of Islamic teachings encourages philosophy and natural sciences?

[slender coral]

The death penalty for apostasy isn't good for society. It never was and probably will never be.

[elder seal]

I'm not asking whatever it's good or not - I'm asking why anyone who believes in a universal "word" would concern themselves with justifications build upon transient values?

[slender coral]

Reform. Religious people justify this by saying that the current understanding of religious texts is wrong.

[elder seal]

'Reform,' i.e., to turn a religion into something it isn't; so that returns to my first point, you want Islam to be not-Islam. And the problem with this framework is the very rigid structure of Islamic Jurisprudence, which is not comparable to other religions

[slender coral]

you want Islam to be not-Islam
Because it's harmful obviously.

[elder seal]

Which is trivial to the point as well. Islam is unlikely to "reform," because the current Islam you oppose is itself a reformed Islam

[slender coral]

I understand lol
That's why I believe Islam is a bad religion that shall not continue to exist.

[elder seal]

Which would be beyond the subject matter 🙂‍↕️

[slender coral]

Dude, what is the subject matter?

I don't get where you are going with this

[elder seal]

@main bison Argued Islam should be reformed to the modern era - I demonstrated the problem with that position in several ways:

Firstly, by making a religion that's universalist subordinate to transient values, you're not asking "Islam to reform," but to subordinate itself to the transient,
Secondly, the very construct of 'modernity' is itself subject to alteration; what you consider "to modernize" may well be considered regression in the future. There's nothing stopping current Islamic values from becoming 'progress' itself,

That is, he's arguing from a framework that's intrinsically flimsy and build on a series of false premises

Or rather, presupposed frameworks, which are unlikely to produce anything

[slender coral]

Bro, people don't argue for what they call modern just because it's new. We do this because it's better for society that old ideologies which were built by ignorant people. You can still approach the death penalty in a similar way by claiming that old scholars' interpretations were not right, limited to their limited knowledge. Is this true or not? That's something you should talk to a progressive Muslim about not us.

[manic juniper]

It seems boring and repetitive

[slender coral]

What we know as non-Muslims is that Islam is harm to society and needs to either change or cease to exist or whatever.

[elder seal]

"Better for society," you've firstly building your framework on the basis of a presupposed axiom. Secondly, you're deferring to a claim - What constitutes "better?" Why does it? And what do you base the presumption of it being "better" on? The assertion in another word runs through a chains of presupposed axioms you've yet to prove.

Secondly, that runs into another chain of difficulties; any attempt at reforming a religion with such well-structured jurisprudence as Islam often require a series of references; while reform can be achieved, and hence changed, that requires a series of deference within the system itself; if you try this, you're likely going to get stampled with Bid'ah and your opinion disregarded

To give a quote attributed to the prophet*: "Avoid novelties for every novelty is an innovation and every innovation is an error"

It's from Abu Dawud al-Sijistani 🙂‍↕️

[elder seal]

#💻｜memes

[manic juniper]

It's not a meme, it's my gallery

[elder seal]

Why it should go to media

[merry musk]

i want to master the english language

[manic juniper]

This channel allows other media, otherwise they would be blocked

[knotty chasm]

[elder seal]

That's not even a plausible function

• nonsequitor

[knotty chasm]

Lot's of fancy words going around

[manic juniper]

?

[shy summit]

Welcome to intelligent conversation

[elder seal]

'Allow other media, otherwise they would be blocked,' sort of doesn't follow because there's no way to block specific types of media. They don't "block" porn here, you'd just get banned for posting it

[knotty chasm]

🤔

[manic juniper]

I didn't say anything about specific types of media

You can report for misuse if you think I broke a rule

[elder seal]

No, you said they'd "allow it" because they've not blocked it - Logically then, it follows you're of the opinion you can freely post porn.

[manic juniper]

Yes, they allow pictures to be sent, hence I can send pictures and stimulate discussions

[thorny steeple]

why tf are yall permanent online gawddamn

[manic juniper]

Posting porn is against the rules, sending a screenshot of my gallery isn't

[manic juniper]

Just done working and I don't have much to do

[slender coral]

You see it as "Bid'ah", other people see it as right, I personally don't care much for the reason that I stated over and over again, I'm not Muslim.
Now why we think society would be better without such a rule is that it's one of many things in Islam that could cause brain drain in society. Oppressed groups leave their oppressive societies to societies that give them more rights, or claim their identity. They also could develop animosity toward the country and hijack it from the inside.

[elder seal]

Yet, let's return to your logic you've applied - "It's blocked," it's against the channel rules to "running bot commands or posting irrelevant comments." Which would apply to a random picture of your gallery.

[knotty chasm]

What do you do

No answer, aight then

[elder seal]

I don't care if you're Muslim. Neither am I. That's entirely trivial to the subject-matter. The point remains fixed; that if we're acknowledged difficulties in a specific task, then we're merely functioning within a model of explanation - One is better at explaining possible events than others. The supposed "progressive islam" some seem to be talking about is a far-cry from reality.

Oppressed groups often wouldn't constitute the cultural elite - So that'd not exactly be a 'brain drain.' So this is by default a weak example; further, there's no reason to suppose the cultural elite not to generally function within the logic of the system. China's an "oppressive system" according to most, yet when we look at it, the intellectual elites are often the one's with the least desire to change its inner workings; Unger notes as much in his work on China - Even when more liberal, they are supportive of the nondemocratic system found in China

[manic juniper]

You are free to report that, I don't understand what's the point of whining when there is a report channel

[manic juniper]

I work in conservation of shorebirds

[elder seal]

Pointing something out isn't whining. I'm just pointing it out.

[knotty chasm]

Damn, national geographic type shit

Cool

[manic juniper]

If you don't want bot commands to be used and you're an admin you can simply block them from a channel

It's like complaining that they stole from your safe when it's left in the middle of the road and fully open

[manic juniper]

Yes

[knotty chasm]

I love birds man

Cockatoos are too damn cute

[manic juniper]

Same, birds are perfect

[thorny steeple]

Everyone posts loads of memes in here; why do you bother

[magic olive]

@thorny steeple

What do you think about feminism?

What’s your opinion?

I’ll share my views after

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-red-dead-redemption2-arthur-morgan-van-der-linde-gang-gang-gif-26945028

[thorny steeple]

A couple of parrots halted on the top of this cross

But one of them flew

[thorny steeple]

i can say that feminism is a crap

[knotty chasm]

Damn, nice vegetation

[magic olive]

Okay , can you elaborate 😂

[verbal torrent]

I didn't know parrots could roam freely outside
Here people buy them

[knotty chasm]

Parrots are wild animals

[thorny steeple]

Atlantic forest in Southeast Brazil

[knotty chasm]

Huh, explains the parrots

[thorny steeple]

okay, but let me ask you imagine a donkey trying to be a hourse is that possible ?

[thorny steeple]

Neither did I, but they popped up nearby when I was chilling in the yard

[verbal torrent]

Really

[knotty chasm]

Y'all never watched the movie Rio?

[verbal torrent]

They dont seems like

[knotty chasm]

Rio https://g.co/kgs/CRT35DV

[verbal torrent]

I did

[thorny steeple]

But this is not very common. It's common to find scorpions, snakes, monkeys and tegus there

[thorny steeple]

I did when it came out, I was 8 yo

It was chill

[elder seal]

Damn, guess my pet parrot is a wild animal

[knotty chasm]

Monkeys are a daily occurence?

[magic olive]

The donkey can carry the load way more than a horse but never as run fast as a horse. Both habe their own performance measures.

[knotty chasm]

If it were born on the wild with a pack, most likely

[magic olive]

Where are going with this ? James

[knotty chasm]

Not so much when raised by people

[knotty chasm]

You mate the two and get a mule runs fast carries stuff and is also infertile win win

[magic olive]

[thorny steeple]

In the city I used to live, it was. The city I live in now is a few killometers farther but we don't find them there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQkcQ7cSiOk&ab_channel=JuliusMars

[knotty chasm]

Monkeys must be hard to get rid of when they are accustomed to cities

[thorny steeple]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-tufted_marmoset

This kind

[thorny steeple]

that's it i like how you think, women are women and donkeys are donkeys
men are men and horses are horses there is no equality
but if a woman following the feminism it's like a Donkey trying to be a horse which will end to become a mule
so that's it man no foking equality no foking feminism it's just a crap as i said

[thorny steeple]

They don't bother us tbh

[knotty chasm]

I know about the larger ones in asia. They raid cities.

These ones seem small

Cute fellas

[thorny steeple]

who figure the mule and donkey twist is a genius

that's it guys short and simple

What bothers us the most is ocelots. They are very rare but still exist

fok debates

[patent mauve]

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[knotty chasm]

They are cute though. Still would rip your face off 💀

[true lark]

Donkey? Horse?

[thorny steeple]

I just pray not to find them in my way

[spice bobcat]

Genius analogy to say the least. James cooked

[magic olive]

Well , just based on this observation, it is still incomplete. It doesn’t hold all the parameters women are rooting for (for example: their rights, ).

[magic olive]

I’m bored so I brought him here

Lmao

[true lark]

Oh screw that mindset, a donkey that can perform the horses tasks should be valued like a horse

[spice bobcat]

At least he won't get a mute

[magic olive]

😂

Yeah he won’t

[spice bobcat]

It's completely impossible for a donkey to do that. It's not as strong as a horse, literally.

[true lark]

I mean no? There are different breeds of horses

[thorny steeple]

what rights? we are in a simp society a girl can have whatever she want, it's a crap listen to me who follow feminism is a stupid

[true lark]

I can think of one definitely outclassed by donkeys in all aspects xd

[spice bobcat]

That is specification. We can't justify a donkey being valued like a horse by comparing it to a
Sub species of horses.

A whole species vs a sub species of a specie

???

[thorny steeple]

yeah guys i like that

[true lark]

A chain is only a strong as the weakest link or something like that

[magic olive]

Okay , but what about the rural areas, where women are not allowed even vote. And are faced with alot of difficulties.

[thorny steeple]

let's destroy those donkeys

[magic olive]

And you ain’t gonna get muted lmfao

[true lark]

Idk I kind of think donkeys and horses are a bad analogy since mules exist

[spice bobcat]

So only the donkeys who can overwhelm the valuability of weak horses (sub species, idk but it'll be the case) can be valued like horses?

So not all the donkeys must be valued?

Genuinely asking because I'm dumbfounded

[thorny steeple]

who dominates is who is decide, the women in the rural areas won't have to think about thing that non of their business

[thorny steeple]

Because mules are considered anomalies, they are like feminists.

[true lark]

I have no idea I am only participating in this conversation because I like horses and donkeys, and yeah only those should be valued like horses but all should still be valued like donkeys which historically at least are more important idk its animals not people

Their value is what you are willing to spend on it

Which in turn depends on what their use is

[spice bobcat]

It is an analogy james formulated

For feminists

[true lark]

So you're saying feminists are the strongest group?

[spice bobcat]

So their value is as good as their productivity

That narrows it down instantly

[manic juniper]

Why, what do they do

[true lark]

Because mules are insanely strong

[thorny steeple]

no they are the Perversion

[verbal torrent]

Im keeping my mouth shut

Chill zehra

[manic juniper]

Zame

[true lark]

For animals we want for working sure, you won't pay for a lame horse when you need to plough the fields, we are humans though and we aren't buying other humans we are living with them

[thorny steeple]

Imagine if you are riding a motorcycle and one of them starts running after you

[ruby violet]

Hellllooooooooooo

[verbal torrent]

Where is ur eva

[manic juniper]

They are bold, aren't they barely bigger than cats?

[true lark]

Well mules are really strong so that is kind of what you are saying

[manic juniper]

I respect ocelots because they seem to get rid of invasive species

[ruby violet]

Well you be the one!

[verbal torrent]

[ruby violet]

Ahahhaha

How are you guys

[ruby violet]

Specially eva

[thorny steeple]

Can a mule reproduce?

[manic juniper]

Some of them did

[true lark]

No it can't

Nothing stopping feminists though so you can't use that as an argument

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, but what if they attacked me, I would be lucky if I ended up alive

[thorny steeple]

that's it, the mules are anomalies and feminists as well

i won

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-shelby-thomas-shelby-cillian-murphy-gif-2354549545017459278

[manic juniper]

Mules are not anomalies

[true lark]

I assure you, mules are perfectly natural, so are zebra horse crossings, they just can't reproduce

[manic juniper]

Hybridisation occurs all the times

[true lark]

^

Nice fancy word haha

[manic juniper]

A male Eurasian bison and a domestic cow can produce fertile offspring

[true lark]

A. It is a debate, the goal is not to win, B be nice, and don't assume you are correct without letting the other respond

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-panda-popcornday-gif-4655901

[manic juniper]

I don't know, it depends on their weapons

[true lark]

I see you have resorted to no longer responding with words, I'll take that as meaning you won't participate in the discussion anymore

Goodbye

[thorny steeple]

Very classic. 🌹

[manic juniper]

It's called losing

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/yDsB5ldHnYc?si=lFXH-Y0NWQjaugAo
This is in the southern tip of my state

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-twin-peaks-the-return-twin-peaks-series-twin-peaks-gi-fs-part11-gif-9314927

my hand for this information

hahahahaha

[manic juniper]

Did you ever see a jaguar? Are they even a thing there

Or a tapir

[thorny steeple]

I've seen stories of ocelots, jaguars do exist in my state but they are more seen in park/conservation areas

I live in MG (in yellow) most stories of jaguars come from MT and MS, in Paraguay's border

[thorny steeple]

Jaguar is a tupi word though, native to Brazil

[true lark]

I dont see a MT

Oh nvm I'm blind

[thorny steeple]

In orange

This state must be larger than Ukraine

It's 1/2 larger than Ukraine

[manic juniper]

I found out mere days ago that the word cavia isn't a Latin word but comes from a possibly extinct language in Guyana

[true lark]

Oh interesting I didn't know that

[native fiber]

Hello

[true lark]

Hi!

[manic juniper]

Procavia

[native fiber]

Hey

[true lark]

I'm not your brother, call me by name please

[native fiber]

Sorry

My bad

[true lark]

It's fine

[thorny steeple]

Apparently from Tupi... which was the first lingua franca of Brazil. It didn't have an alphabet, the Jesuits wrote a grammar book on it

[manic juniper]

Should've expected it tbh, tapir and jaguar don't sound like words that would come from Europe

Neither did cavia but somehow I assumed it existed in Europe before colonialism and it was a misnomer for New World rodents

[thorny steeple]

It doesn't, Portugal borrowed a lot of words from Criole, Quimbundo and Tupi

[prisma cipher]

the size of Ukraine is a variable unit.

[thorny steeple]

Spain should have done that too

[manic juniper]

They are popular enough that they are Romanian words now

[true lark]

...

[thorny steeple]

Even with the variants, Ukarine has approximately 600k km², the state I mentioned has 900km²

[thorny steeple]

Which ones?

[manic juniper]

No I mean cavia, it's now a word in Spanish, Italian, Romanian, perhaps even French as well

But they don't mean the same thing as the original word, they refer to a generic rodent

[true lark]

Idk about French but Dutch for sure

In dutch it refers to the specific rodent species nothing general

[manic juniper]

Yes, it has the original meaning, it refers to the Guinea pig

[true lark]

Somehow it does, yeah

[thorny steeple]

Weirdly, for jaguars we use the word onça (comes from the French once) whilst in French they use jaguar, which comes from Brazilian natives

[true lark]

How do you even manage to pronounce onça, I sure can't

[prisma cipher]

Trump is a homie after all

[manic juniper]

If penguins are named after the great auks' French name then what's the name of penguins in French

[true lark]

Eugh that photo makes me want to throw up, sorry. Not looking great on that picture

[prisma cipher]

Do it

[prisma cipher]

Do you have those animals at your territory?

[thorny steeple]

i swear to god trump is dumb af

[thorny steeple]

Manchote 💀

[thorny steeple]

We do

[prisma cipher]

Like we call bear medved, it is mean animal that eat honey

Those people who have those animals often call them in their own way

[thorny steeple]

What does medvedev mean

[verbal torrent]

One says trump is homie after all the other says trump is dumb asf

[prisma cipher]

Med- honey, ved- (old fashioned vedaed) mean eat

[prisma cipher]

Medved- bear 🐻

[prisma cipher]

Homie might be dump this is not contradiction

[thorny steeple]

I'm the dumb homie, no way it is a contradiction

[prisma cipher]

Lol I said it with p letter again

[true lark]

At least we agree his iq is quite low from all the inbreeding

[thorny steeple]

Just pronounce once... but instead of this mute 'e' it's an 'a'. And the "o" is like the O in ostrich, not the O in one or once

https://youtu.be/FtCjg34Jrmc?si=nc45AoYVRmsa813e

[true lark]

Well that's a lot easier than the French way of saying it

[prisma cipher]

Pro Russian Trump, wow

I understand it just a word, not actions. But I can't even imagine something like this

[true lark]

I swear the guy needs to look less like he has a bunch of cheeto dust on his face, I'm not normally one to judge appearances but god, you're the president, stop making me unironically want to puke based on your appearance

I know it's immature to insult someone's appearance but they are the one exception I will allow myself

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ryback-chips-eating-funny-gif-20628930

[manic juniper]

It's the possessive suffix, kinda like -ez in Spanish

[thorny steeple]

Is that the only example?

[manic juniper]

-en in Finnish, sometimes it counts as patronymic (Ivanov)

[thorny steeple]

Interesting 🤔, does English has one?

[thorny steeple]

The ic in slavic languages

[thorny steeple]

So ivanoven?

[manic juniper]

They have tons of those, it depends on the country because none has all of them

[manic juniper]

That would be a very bad use of suffixes but it happens

[thorny steeple]

Okie, how's English suffix?

[manic juniper]

My mum knows a Czech woman whose surname was registered as Ivanovova

[manic juniper]

Anderson
-on

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

[manic juniper]

Son*

[thorny steeple]

Cool reminded me of the matrix

[manic juniper]

In Icelandic you have dottir too, it means daughter instead

[thorny steeple]

Yeah doesn't Iceland has things English used to have

[manic juniper]

Yes it's the most conservative Germanic language

[thorny steeple]

That remains truthfully to its origins

[thorny steeple]

What do you mean by all of them

[manic juniper]

Because there are a lot of them, -iv, -ev, -ov, -ic (and variants), -ski (and variants), I think even more

[thorny steeple]

Ic is an example of patronymic suffix isn't it

What do these other ones mean

[thorny steeple]

You Brazilian right?

Ski is very common in Poland

Ov in eastern slavic countries

As long as I can recall

[thorny steeple]

How's the suffix there

[thorny steeple]

For names we have "es"

She mentioned ez but our surnames too have loads of them

[thorny steeple]

Nice

Rodrigues. Gonçalves

[thorny steeple]

How many loan words?

Etc. In spanish they just add the z

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

Dominican Spanish drops some words in letter

Like the S is drop example: muchas gracias

So mucha gracia

Along with feliz is felih with also ustedes sounding like u'tede or verdad sounding like velda

[silent apex]

Yo! I'm not a native speaker, I read somewhere that non native speaker essays are 50% more likely to get flagged by ai checker

my prof told us today that he will be using a ai checker on our assignments, i feel scared now

should i check with ai detectors myself or some humanizers? my friends suggested aidetectplus, should i do it?

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper

[shy summit]

Ho-ly-fuck

https://x.com/mrsbutters/status/1889846340785754118?s=46&t=_4te3tAT61vk9Mlvl0m7cw

Mrs. Butters 🥧 (@MrsButters) on X

You've probably all heard President Musk's son tell Trump to get the fuck out because he's not the president, right?

Well, did you hear the one where he tells Bowtie Boy some other dirty secrets?

No?

That's because most of the internet is scrubbed of it.

X · Feb 13, 2025, 1:17 AM

You need to see this video

[lethal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D68jISqVGbE

[manic juniper]

Most of those fulfill the same purpose

[formal pilot]

[eager burrow]

where did you start

[formal pilot]

Drop shipping is literally a pyramid scheme

[eager burrow]

yeah fr

[thorny steeple]

Instigated by Aladdin

[modern burrow]

Obesity is a serious health condition that should be treated because it can lead to other life-threatening disease which can have devastating consequences, other people can make the person who is obese feel discriminated, and obesity causes people to live for a less amount of time. (is this a good thesis statement

[verbal torrent]

I think it is too detailed for a thesis statement

[elder seal]

Hol' up, if you join my organization, I'll give you money and a a portion of the cut, just make sure you pay me initially and invite more people to join, you'll get a proportion of the cut for each person you help join

[thorny steeple]

Anyone good at math?

[spiral jackal]

nyone wanna co work or co study?

[ashen mortar]

happy valentines day to all internet intellectuals

[opal jackal]

To you as well may you have a bright day ahead of you

[steel sail]

You single?

[peak summit]

Happy Valentine's Day

[tidal thorn]

Same to u bro

[peak summit]

I'm alone

[tidal thorn]

Lol same here hahaa

[peak summit]

Well good luck finding someone good

[tidal thorn]

I'm good alonee

Hope u find someone

[peak summit]

Okay me too

[peak summit]

Nope

[tidal thorn]

Uhh okay

[peak summit]

But the weather is cold and needs one.

Big warm blanket

And a cup of coffee

[tidal thorn]

Bro be a writer 🫂

[peak summit]

I am studying this now.

But not a lot

[tidal thorn]

Fr?

That's 👍🏻 good

[peak summit]

Yeah

[tidal thorn]

Yeah sometimes we do feel alone and what we need is just someone who can understand us that's all

[peak summit]

Yes, this is what we need, just someone who understands us, a little love, and no lies.

[tidal thorn]

Yeah I can relate yaa🙂

[peak summit]

good to hear

[tidal thorn]

🫠

[peak summit]

Do you like drawing?

[tidal thorn]

Yeahhhh I love it

I love all my hobbies

[peak summit]

me too. But only in my free time I use tracking because I don't have time.

But I left the hobby

[tidal thorn]

Same here duhh.🥲

[peak summit]

[tidal thorn]

No I still haven't left it

[peak summit]

Yes

[tidal thorn]

I try to get some time to some minimal sketches

It help me find peace

[peak summit]

I also choose some of them and then draw them.

[tidal thorn]

I prefer drawing mostly at midnight

[peak summit]

Me too but when I have nothing to do or study I will draw

[tidal thorn]

That's good

[tidal thorn]

Haha same here bro

I will send ya some of my attempts later

[peak summit]

Its name is the statue of David, 6 meters tall, by the sculptor Michelangelo in the year 1500.

[peak summit]

No need to do that

[tidal thorn]

Yeaa I learned about it

[tidal thorn]

Sure

[peak summit]

good to hear!

[tidal thorn]

Cool

[peak summit]

Yes. But I hate coloring because I have never colored anything in my life.

[dense agate]

Eyy that Medusa's looking good, GJ!

[peak summit]

thanks bro

[tidal thorn]

Fr

[tidal thorn]

No my favourite part is colouringg

[peak summit]

It is difficult to color if you do not have experience.

[tidal thorn]

Uhm guess so but it's my favourite part but I never get to finish a drawing in a day

It takes almost 3 days

[peak summit]

Yes, that's why it's difficult.

But I like to search for drawing and take information

[tidal thorn]

Keep it up👍🏻🐣

[peak summit]

Okay. I've bothered you enough.

[tidal thorn]

Arehh no yaarr it's ok

[peak summit]

[hexed mauve]

what serious topic are you tking about?

[celest haven]

Everyone here is chilling

[tidal thorn]

Tru

[tidal thorn]

Hehee

[slender coral]

I didn't understand. I'm not following US politics that much, what's going on?

[formal pilot]

Basically Mericans are getting cooked by trump and friends

[cloud moat]

Hi

[cloud moat]

Wow

[rough folio]

I think then I forgot

[tidal thorn]

hi

[steep crown]

@tidal thornhii

[cloud moat]

Forgot what @rough folio

[cloud moat]

How are you

[rough folio]

That's what I forgot

[cloud moat]

Sad

[rough folio]

Real

[slender coral]

What do you guys have to talk about today?

[cloud moat]

Real

[cloud moat]

Nothing

[lapis sinew]

Ocean or Water.

[tidal thorn]

heyy

[tidal thorn]

im alright

[mossy night]

Hi bro

Sad valentine day 😎😎

[simple imp]

Hello 👋

[simple imp]

Ki haal chal

[thorny steeple]

Guys is valentine's day considered a critical occasion or just a random day with stupid habits?

[buoyant mist]

Hi

[lucid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-eyeglass-exellent-question-gif-12818139

[thorny steeple]

[buoyant mist]

Can you teach me how to create a widely used English conversation?

Can you teach me how to create a widely used English conversation?

[thorny steeple]

Why you doubled it ?

[keen moon]

trying' to create widely used conversation

[thorny steeple]

[latent monolith]

Just a random day with stupid habits

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-right-charles-a-man-on-the-inside-for-sure-heck-yes-gif-7418169341876858876

[heavy parcel]

hey serious people of discord

[calm sable]

salut

[cloud moat]

Hi

[simple imp]

Hello

[simple imp]

Hi

[last mantle]

Water

[slender coral]

Hello. You have anything serious and interesting to discuss?

[keen moon]

valentine’s day is just a marketing trap to make you spend money on things no one actually cares about - just to "prove" your love. Ironically, you don’t need a special occasion to show affection... you can do it regularly

[thorny steeple]

so it's a random day with stupid habits?

[keen moon]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-bryan-cranston-heisenberg-you-are-goddamn-right-gif-4508847

[dense belfry]

Hii guys, please recomend me good Youtube channels in English please😁

And in Spanish too, please ☝️

[proud wolf]

https://youtu.be/6-eAiKtj0Xg?si=c8L_35LT4a6RkXGK :3

[dense belfry]

I like it, Thank you bro

[proud wolf]

i made it

[dense belfry]

Yeah, I saw

It's calm, i like

[proud wolf]

[proud wolf]

yh

[dense belfry]

🤙

[gritty lynx]

@faint wasp are earthquake aya kya vha pr ?

[shy summit]

“Only the best people!”

[tidal thorn]

Bhaloi

[thorny steeple]

Can we consider the gayness as a mental illness

[signal oar]

no

[thorny steeple]

Why

[faint wasp]

Nah, btw nice shoes 🌚

@gritty lynx

[signal oar]

well thats just people's prefrences, gayness in in of itself isnt inheritantly a sexual prefrence but rather an emotional one, its the same as dudes loving nerdy girls, thats just what they are attracted to and usually with heavy denial of "gay" thoughts the "gayness" amplifies itself in the person's mind, its like moving on from your ex i suppose but there is not much wrong here. many people are gay since they are young too not attracted to girls which can be for a number of reasons

[feral river]

never heard of him before the election

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QN3HRc03xtQ

LMAO

average democrats

[shy summit]

This is the cringiest shit I’ve seen all day and I just babysat a class of gen alpha 4th graders

[thorny steeple]

So it's a mental illness, like if you consider the pedophilia a mental illness gayness is the same

[shy summit]

Also we hated elon LONG before the election

[shy summit]

Excuse me?

Did you just fucking liken me to a pedophile?

[thorny steeple]

I mean as a sexual desires and emotional producing, yes

[shy summit]

First off

Queerness isn’t a mental illness

Read the DSM

Second

I never want to see that comparison again

End of discussion

Do you understand?

[feral river]

oh really I thought he joined conservative team right before the election

like when Elon unbanned Trump

[feral river]

ah huh I thought that exists for both party supporters

[shy summit]

Nah we hated elon long before that.

[feral river]

reason ?

it's february now, list 2 most terrible thing happened on you under Trump administration

I mean on you bro

[shy summit]

Inflation, threats to my rights, lack of worker protections, the mishandling of covid leading to deaths in my family, high medical prices,

[feral river]

I'm sorry the fourth one if happened, and about the price of medical services, it's not the day one or day two since it's expensive

inflation shit, well hard to say if it's because of Trump and lack of worker protection, yes and he's a piece of shit handling pandemic stuff

threat of your rights, well yes, he's gonna do that no doubt

at least you got a lot of reason to hate him, I totally respect that

[shy summit]

Pls don’t say things like that

[feral river]

can't imagine the future if he's an authoritarian leader in the US

US democracy need to be defended

[shy summit]

I agree

Elon is the greater threat at the moment

He’s trying to just ignore the law

[feral river]

he's DOGE literally did ignored the law

he use that trick under executive support to purge officials

but that is in the law ? nobody knows that

but for me if I was in that I would say I don't care what he will exactly do I focus on result rather than process, so

if the process isn't legit, that doesn't really matter to me

and btw that legit comes from the balance of power and force

but the result is what I really focused and used to evaluate his performance in the government

and that's his contribution to national interest, people's interest etc.

[slender coral]

There's no respectable mental health institution that classifies it as so. The DSM, which is a key reference for mental health professionals from all over the world, stopped classifying it as a disorder decades ago.

[shy summit]

The courts shut his ass down rq

[merry pike]

Hi

Can anyone help me?

I'm searching for a Spanish server, I'm a beginner

[thorny steeple]

Yes it is

[merry pike]

Are you talking to me ?

[thorny steeple]

Gayness is a mental illness who the and its not natural they invent it theirself.

[slender coral]

And who are you to determine that?

[thorny steeple]

Gayness is a mental disease

[slender coral]

No

[thorny steeple]

Why people wanna be gay is their any solid reason

[dapper laurel]

Where are you from?

[thorny steeple]

Pakistan but it doesn,t matter right ?

[dapper laurel]

As I expected

[thorny steeple]

Yeaa we don,t have gays here

[slender coral]

Some people are just gay, they find themselves like that. Psychologists don't know the specific reasons yet but I think you can find some articles about contributing factors.

[slender coral]

I know gay and lesbian Pakistanis.

[dapper laurel]

Are you also Muslim?

[thorny steeple]

Well its not like this the truth is some desperate people do this shi and convert to gays and leab

[keen moon]

I feel like there will be another muted FAM

[thorny steeple]

Yeee.

[slender coral]

Desperate?

[dapper laurel]

This is funny. Yesterday I argued that Islam was a religion stuck in the Middle Ages, you are the proof of that after all

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[slender coral]

What do you mean that?

I know that you said desperate, but desperate for what?

A hetreosexual relationship?

[thorny steeple]

You know what I avoid arguing with the people whose mind are fixed and who have decided everythin by themselves just by hearing about specific religion and specific region. Even if u are wrong u ain,t gonna accept that so its better to have fruitful debate w someone who gonna get something.

[thorny steeple]

Yes they cann,t help w their lust and they become like this

[thorny steeple]

.

[slender coral]

Have you ever met homosexual people?

[thorny steeple]

Yes

Its not like they have feelings

[slender coral]

Where? In Pakistan

[dapper laurel]

You know you're wrong and that's why you back out lol

[thorny steeple]

Lahore.😭

[slender coral]

This is honestly a dumb assumpation and it's not right.

[thorny steeple]

How's the view of the city?

[thorny steeple]

Am not wrong but u ain,t gonna hear anythin the first thing u asked was country and second thing was religion what else am gonna accept now.

[dapper laurel]

I was just curious to understand why certain denigrating statements come from certain people who profess a certain religion, nothing else

[thorny steeple]

XD

[slender coral]

Some of them, sadly, as a result of religious indoctronation, believe that they are mentally ill. And for that they try to seek help. It's not that they are "lustful people", it's a preference that they can't change even if they genuinely wanna change.
The attitudes and ideas you have about them and their orientation that stem from you not being informed and educated is something that really harms them. Their love for each other is real and can be pure, but the stigma you guys put on them with your ignorance and lack of empathy cause real mental harm to them.

[thorny steeple]

Many other people also say the same they ain,t muslims or pakistanis but the hate against muslims is real and not ur fault its brainwashed by media.

[dapper laurel]

In my experience, anyone who despised gays was also a Muslim

In most cases

The religion of peace

[thorny steeple]

Oki i get it they are people i ain,t gonna hate them but they also need to know that thats smth they makin themselves.they are just troubling themselvss by doing all this I literally don,t believe this that these people are just naturally like this.

[slender coral]

Read more about psychology and the study of homosexuality if you are interested.

[magic olive]

@thorny steeple chill

[mortal depot]

John 3:16 John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life"

[thorny steeple]

Sup

Too many nowadays

[thorny steeple]

Well ik how much experienced you are. Just being in serious chat and repeating the same fixed things. U really need to study history and things am not even a experience person nor i argue with someone.

[dapper laurel]

Sup bro, how is it going?

[thorny steeple]

Are u muslim ?

[spice bobcat]

No

[slender coral]

You know, you can talk about a religious topic instead of randomly sending messages from the bible.

[formal pilot]

[slender coral]

No. I was at some point, fortunately I left.

[formal pilot]

Is it time to bring Mexican Lizards

[mortal depot]

Nah bro this verse good

[thorny steeple]

Ahmmm

[dapper laurel]

I have studied history too well to know that Islam is a fairly violent religion

[spice bobcat]

SI MUCHACHO, TE GUSTA ES CONFLICTO

[thorny steeple]

Very well, how's Life mate

[formal pilot]

Bonjour baguette or something

[spice bobcat]

Oui oui baguette 🥖 hallelujah

[formal pilot]

Trust me it's the least violent abrahimic religion

[thorny steeple]

Monsieur Aladdin

[spice bobcat]

I'm falling for you

[dapper laurel]

I'm just tired, y'know, all that school stuff and some of my classmates really pissed me off

[formal pilot]

I'm not huge enough to have gravitational pull

[dapper laurel]

At least as violent as Christianity

[thorny steeple]

Oki which type of violence had world face before islam do u know about that.do u even know about holocaust ? Do u even know about tamil tigers the sucide bombers . All of them were muslims ?

[thorny steeple]

Ahh ic

[spice bobcat]

You never know

[thorny steeple]

Same feeling but it's survivable

[formal pilot]

No one can match the great united Christian army, they were badass and violent

[dapper laurel]

The only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity was violent, while Islam still is.
As for the Holocaust, the Nazis were not Christians, they were mostly pagans

[dapper laurel]

We're still standing

[spice bobcat]

How do you prove that it still is

[thorny steeple]

Hell yeah

[formal pilot]

Yk what jews are the most violent 💀

[spice bobcat]

There's literally Zionists killing children, and they're related to jews.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed get the evidence and not source trust me bro

[slender coral]

Muslims still kill and imrpison people for blasphemy and apostasy, and you have a lot of terrorism.

[spice bobcat]

Ikr that's what I'm thinking 😂

[dapper laurel]

Afghanistan and Iran Maybe? Do They Seem Like Democratic or Reasonable States to You?

[spice bobcat]

That's a law. Terrorism isn't derived from religious beliefs, read about it's psychology. I'll even provide you a document on it

[formal pilot]

Yeah old testament is pretty fkd up

[spice bobcat]

So you're saying extremists represent the religion. Is that logical?

[mortal depot]

Ain't no way broo lol💀

[slender coral]

The Muslim world is plagued with fundamentalism and fanaticism

[mortal depot]

The core message is in the NT

[thorny steeple]

I will never ever deny that islam teaches us to do jahad and fight for justice and if u people will expect that u will kill children of muslim like they did in palestine and muslims will sit and do nothin just to potray a picture infront of media that we are peaceful religion this ain,t gonna happen.

[formal pilot]

Yeah, they're the last warriors of abrahimic religion 💀

[dapper laurel]

But these cases occur only in Islam

[thorny steeple]

We want peace even if we have to go from wars.

[formal pilot]

Yeah NT is pretty chill

[dapper laurel]

These 'degenerations' already derive from a violent logic in itself

[formal pilot]

Only would be an exaggeration ngl

[dapper laurel]

It is not a matter of our interest, Christians do not kill Palestinians, those are Jews. This therefore doesn't justify that Christians are mistreated in Islamic countries

[dapper laurel]

[amber owl]

People talking about Islam as if it wasn't the religion of one of the most developed civilizations a millenium ago, refer to Umayyad Caliphate.

[formal pilot]

Dyamm that's new one

[dapper laurel]

You always talk about the past, but what about now?

🤷🏼

[amber owl]

@dapper laurel I'm saying that barbarity is not inherent to certain religion and it's unfair to deem those who follow it as inferior or barbaric just because of it.

[formal pilot]

We CCP world domination, democracy is western concept

[spice bobcat]

Mao would be proud

[thorny steeple]

You say islam is violent while the in the life of hazrat Muhammad there was 27 wars fought between muslims and other people only 8 instance where muslims were initiated comabat other 19 was started by them how it can be the most violent religion then ?

[spice bobcat]

Seriously, read about it's psychology

It's not derived from religious beliefs

[amber owl]

Oh wait does he start from the point that islam is violent? History issue then I guess.

[formal pilot]

Tian shang tai yong hong ya hong tong tong ei Moe zedong ei

[dapper laurel]

The so-called Islamic golden age was not that great after all

[amber owl]

@dapper laurel And Christian kingdoms were...?

[spice bobcat]

Lao ten bao yo jin san jin san quen do yo

[thorny steeple]

Even now most of wars are started by other people,jews or christians muslims don,t enroll directly in war.while atom bomb on japan we ain,t that cruel and violent

[whole beacon]

[mortal depot]

Didnt that guy say you can marry children sahih Muslim 753?

[dapper laurel]

Great

[whole beacon]

Ask the crusades

[hexed mauve]

nobody believes that

[thorny steeple]

Its another topic.

[whole beacon]

Hello crusader

[amber owl]

Kingdoms where men and women were burned alive accused of heresy and witchery, yeah very great.

[dapper laurel]

Well, they had to defend themselves from Islamic invasions

[mortal depot]

I just have it as my pfp because it looks cool

[whole beacon]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Do u even know history

Lmaaao defend

[formal pilot]

That's why islam is older than Christianity
Alhamdulillah

Wait I'm supposed to be in atheist team

[amber owl]

I mean, he is literally proving he doesn't. I'm not a master in the matter either but at least I spend my time to learn.

[mortal depot]

Some dates of note:
632 Mohammed dies, Muslim expansionism begins
634-636 conquer Byzantine-Christian Syria
635 conquer Byzantine-Christian Jerusalem
641-642 conquer Christian Egypt
647 conquer Christian Tunisia
652 conquer Christian Sicily
654 attack Christian Crete
674 besiege Constantinople (in Anatolia - modern day Turkey)
682 conquer Morocco
7th century - East African slave trade begins (Muslims enslave and traffic Africans, finally ended by the British Empire in 1918 following the defeat of the Muslim Ottoman Empire which sided with Germany in world war 1 and declared jihad on the West)
711 conquer Christian Spain (which they continued to colonise and occupy parts of until finally expelled in la Reconquista of 1492)
720s/730s - attack the Pyrenees, including Christian Switzerland and Christian France (up to Tours)
846 - attack Rome
1095- First crusade to retake holy land

[whole beacon]

Well im heavily invested in history. Especially the crusades
And i can assure you he doesn't know a bugger how the crusades started

[amber owl]

Today I learned Herod the Great tried to kill Jesuschrist when he was born.

[mortal depot]

Do you?

[formal pilot]

Ooh trust me guys even today Christians are deadlier than muslims, we all know who got good weapons

[whole beacon]

U enjoy copy pasting
I know

[mortal depot]

@whole beacon
Answer my message
The dates I gave

[dapper laurel]

You occupied Iberia, Sicily, you tried to conquer the Balkans, the crusades had a defensive purpose, they were justified for this and maybe necessary

[mortal depot]

Answer the damn question you coward

[mortal depot]

It was defense

[formal pilot]

Pretty badass, looks like good resume

I can't see a Buddhist surviving in that region

[dapper laurel]

Don't worry, this also happened in Islamic territories

[amber owl]

@dapper laurel When?

[mortal depot]

Dumb ass ran away

[formal pilot]

What was your point lol

[formal pilot]

Yeah

[mortal depot]

The first 3 crusades were defensive

[formal pilot]

I personally like the first one because of some political beliefs

So yeah let's start them again, I'll definitely donate my life savings

[whole beacon]

U can not just say that
Its nonsense

[thorny steeple]

Calm down

[mortal depot]

The first 3 bruv

[whole beacon]

First 3??

[mortal depot]

Haha you don't even know this
The first 3 are completely justified because they were responses ain't nobody gonna sit around watching them conquer lands

[thorny steeple]

Being a sucide bomber is hella wrong i do agree 100 percent but dropping a nuclear bomn on japan is alr ig.

That was peace call

[whole beacon]

Wat so u mean by first 3??

[thorny steeple]

Nuclear bomb was made to preach peace.guys

[dapper laurel]

A Berber caliphate imposed a rather rigid teaching of Islam, persecuting Jews, Christians and even non-aligned Muslims. Not to mention religious minorities in Persia or the struggles for power within the caliphate itself

[shy summit]

*bombs

We dropped two of them

[mortal depot]

There were 8

[spice bobcat]

Who you talking about man.

[thorny steeple]

Yea and still most peaceful nation on earth right ?

[formal pilot]

Where?

[spice bobcat]

Japan

[thorny steeple]

Japan

[spice bobcat]

Here comes the sun

[thorny steeple]

I give you that you work as professor lmao

[formal pilot]

I thought they dropped em again

[amber owl]

Oh I was already investigating. I also read executions by burning from Greeks to Ottomans.

[formal pilot]

Anyway it was defensive move

[dapper laurel]

Even the so-called "heretical movements" were persecuted. Please eliminate the myth of good and civilized Islam, because it does not exist

[formal pilot]

I mean if you know history enough you'll understand The whole thing is subjective, but from a Byzantine point of view it was very much defensive. They had previously controlled most of the Middle East(except Persia) and had lost lots of land to the Caliphates and Turks over the years.

[spice bobcat]

Soon. Kim jung boutta fart and cause ww3

[whole beacon]

U mean the crusades,
Yeah i mean if ur gonna be stuck in numbers lets.
For the sake of not getting confused i only say there were 3 major crusades, the others are mainly failures

[shy summit]

Who tf says that? We’re fifty different wartribes in a trenchcoat with a defense budget big enough to fight god

[thorny steeple]

Guys next time when afghanistan will drop bomb on america it will be islam who did that not some group of people who ruling country.

[formal pilot]

Bring back first crusades

[formal pilot]

You can't drop bombs from toyota Hilux

[thorny steeple]

This is what the dumb people literally think 😭 same situation different assumptions

[mortal depot]

What about Iraq lowering age of consent?

[dapper laurel]

The Ottomans didn't behave well with the Greeks you know

[amber owl]

Don't forget you're becoming Russia v2.0 regarding the persecution of all those who prosecuted Trump.

[whole beacon]

Literally i don't.
Im not teacher material.

[spice bobcat]

You're staying away from the main topic blud

[thorny steeple]

Then what lol

[mortal depot]

The topic is violence
What I am talking about is violence acted upon innocent children

[whole beacon]

Commercial assistant in a perfume company lol

[thorny steeple]

Answer it is it same for world afghanistan dropping nuclear bomb or america doing it ?

[spice bobcat]

Ain't nobody justifies or condones child marriage bruv.

[formal pilot]

They're competing with Italy

[mortal depot]

Islam actually does stop coping

[thorny steeple]

Lmao that's something

[spice bobcat]

How do I even explain that it was their culture?

[thorny steeple]

Thats comp wrong none of us support it.

[spice bobcat]

Can we blame someone for something that happened 1000 years ago using the laws of today

[shy summit]

We can’t fight what doesn’t exist

[thorny steeple]

For real it cann,t just fit in their lil mind.

[formal pilot]

You can't even fight trump tbh 💀

[mortal depot]

How many times have people explained it isn't a presentism fallacy

Muhammad is supposed to be the excellent example till the end

[thorny steeple]

What 😭 okay fire than ? Can u even bear saudi don,t give u oil for few months

[mortal depot]

Muhammad isn't the moral example of today

[lethal sparrow]

https://youtu.be/TGjt3EPxMPM?si=SAS1geY7jpkbu0DT

[formal pilot]

@shy summit it's really enjoyable watching both gang fight

[spice bobcat]

And he is. Peace be upon him.

[spice bobcat]

For you, probably. Nobody forces anything on you

[dapper laurel]

We raised hell

[mortal depot]

So having inter course with children is okay? For you

[thorny steeple]

The situation was so different then accept it it wasn,t only common between muslims also between jews and christians

[formal pilot]

God is raising hell for us in afterlife

[mortal depot]

@spice bobcat ban this PDF

Disgusting man

[spice bobcat]

I'm literally 17. Incapable of being a PDF

[dapper laurel]

May God forgive me for being a Western defender and a Muslim larper at the same time

[mortal depot]

You want to Marry 9 year old girls like your excellent example?

[spice bobcat]

Literally no. Blud I just told you, it was culture, it's not sunnah. They reached puberty earlier in the old days

[manic juniper]

You can be a pedofile and a minor if you're not a child anymore

[spice bobcat]

Bro why would I

[manic juniper]

17 yo is a teenager

[spice bobcat]

That's illogical

[mortal depot]

Thank fully then Muhammad is illogical

Moral dilemma lol

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/zakir-naik-may-allah-forgive-you-because-i-wont-gif-25702260

[manic juniper]

Such as

[dapper laurel]

Allah avoids me

[spice bobcat]

I told you, it was culture. By today's laws I wouldn't be allowed to. Legit, like we're obligated to follow the law in islam

[formal pilot]

Dyammm aren't you Christian? Are we truly talking about being logical

That's hilarious

[mortal depot]

Ok then Muhammads morality was limited to his time

[thorny steeple]

Ah nvm u guys have limited thinking and mentality

[mortal depot]

?

[thorny steeple]

He didn,t answer me

[manic juniper]

Sore loser?

[dapper laurel]

He said that being gay is a mental illness, for example

[shy summit]

Nah fire don’t exist

[manic juniper]

Truly one of the greatest philosophers of our time

[shy summit]

Just like common sense apparently

We don’t have that considering we voted for trump

[formal pilot]

I'm telling you only atheist crusaders can fix the world

[spice bobcat]

He was human. Marrying ayesha was a command from Allah. Plus as I told you, she was a woman according to her time.

[formal pilot]

Do you legit believe in resurrection n all? 💀

[mortal depot]

Dms

[dapper laurel]

Future generations will study his deeds for centuries to come

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel this is what i said. Is this same for world afghanistan and america doin same shit for world.

[manic juniper]

It's confirmed at least amongst reptiles

[formal pilot]

Sus

[mortal depot]

Wow so convenient he got a dream to marry a little girl who he desired

[shy summit]

Let’s drop this

[spice bobcat]

I'm saying this again, she was considered a woman in her time

[shy summit]

It’s strafing into something non-productive

Move on

[formal pilot]

Dude i legit resurrected a lizard with hot water

[mortal depot]

Ok then Muhammad was limited to his time his morality isn't timeless
You are waffling now lmao

[amber owl]

In medieval Christian kingdoms women where apt to bear children since they were fifteen years old so yeah, ancient culture was pretty much fucked up.

[dapper laurel]

Could you repeat what you are saying in a more understandable way?

[manic juniper]

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2019-05-10/extinct-bird-re-evolved-itself-back-into-existence-on-island-in-seychelles

[spice bobcat]

Exactly what are you trying to prove. If you think we use his morality nowadays, then you're totally wrong. If you're saying that he prescribed this practice than that's wrong too. There's a difference between sunnah and culture

[formal pilot]

Lord can't be reptile 💀

[spice bobcat]

It'll zoom past the heads ong. It's not worth arguing about

[manic juniper]

Being trans=fake and gay
A 9 yo identifying as a woman=legit

[mortal depot]

Sahih Muslim 753 he prescribed this too

[manic juniper]

He can, the Holy Spirit took the form of... A reptile

[dapper laurel]

If he can be a man he can also be a reptile

[thorny steeple]

If afghanistan drop a nuclear bomb on america. U won,t say its cause of islam ? Cuse islam is violent ?

[manic juniper]

He already did, it's canon

A dove is a dinosaur thus a reptile

[formal pilot]

Guys just be friends again and talk about homosexuality, you might come to a common point

[spice bobcat]

Sahih Muslim 753
Abu Mijlaz reported:

I asked Ibn 'Abbas about the Witr prayer. He said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as saying: It is a rak'ah at the end of the night prayer.

?

[dapper laurel]

Yes, cuz islam is violent n shi

[mortal depot]

Wrong one

[manic juniper]

Ngl if an atomic bomb was dropped on Afghanistan there are high chances of improving its living conditions

[spice bobcat]

Send the one then

[thorny steeple]

And america doing same shit on japan ?

[mortal depot]

Muhammad's encouragement
to marry and fondle young virgins

Narrated Jabir: "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to me, "Have you got married O Jabir?" I replied, "Yes." He asked "What, a virgin [bikr] or a matron [thayyib]?" I replied, "Not a virgin but a matron." He said, "Why did you not marry a young girl [jariyah] who would have fondled with you?
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:382

[manic juniper]

Wasn't the pilot a Muslim, he was flying a plane named Enola Gay

[dapper laurel]

They did it for political reasons, not religious reasons

[shy summit]

New topic

[thorny steeple]

[manic juniper]

Rewriting history as we speak

[spice bobcat]

Send a scanned copy of this, where did you copy and paste this from blud

[shy summit]

This is strafing into a tos territory

[thorny steeple]

Uneducated poor people

[formal pilot]

Slavery

[dapper laurel]

Enola gay 🏳️‍🌈

[thorny steeple]

Lovely stuff

I am done here at ur level of thinkin.

U need to growup

[mortal depot]

Search the source bruv it's there sahih bukhari

Police be upon your prophet

[dapper laurel]

You just can't argue

[thorny steeple]

Well lady gtg u are wrong.

[spice bobcat]

Brother, that number is total waffle, I searched the exact words and gave me a Wikipedia page. Your source is Wikipedia!?!!

[manic juniper]

It was to avenge Turing

[manic juniper]

Proof?

[formal pilot]

Follower of Christan lokey sound non Christan, if you know what i mean

[thorny steeple]

Lets carry on why was war between afghanistan and america ?

[dapper laurel]

[mortal depot]

Search the entire Hadith I have seen this Hadith online too

[mortal depot]

Check dms

[spice bobcat]

Half of it you cut off

[amber owl]

Do people still think civilizations' leaders wage wars for religious reasons instead of the possibility of seizing strategic positions and resources?
Even Putin claimed he wanted to merge URSS countries back when he actually just wants the valuable resources Ukraine has.

[spice bobcat]

" I replied, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! My father was martyred on the day of Uhud and left nine (orphan) daughters who are my nine sisters; so I disliked to have another young girl of their age, but (I sought) an (elderly) woman who could comb their hair and look after them." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You have done the right thing."

[thorny steeple]

It wan,t even abt religion

[formal pilot]

Dude i also debate muslims, y'all suck but this is not the right way to debate
Blud is here just to insult

[mystic bay]

I could really go for some paracetamol ice cream right now

[dapper laurel]

Because you carried out an attack on September 11th killing thousands of people in the name of your god, that's why

[spice bobcat]

He confuses me

[formal pilot]

I'm technologically dyslexic

[spice bobcat]

Oh well

[thorny steeple]

Have that instance ever been inquired ?

[mystic bay]

Don't knock it until you try it

[lethal sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6uP1nvtPlg

[formal pilot]

Dyammm we all are cooked, we take 650

Our body might be insensitive to 500 now

[spice bobcat]

Pass the Adderall

That'll work better

[formal pilot]

Pass the natural selection examination first

[spice bobcat]

Man, I know I'm cooked at that

[formal pilot]

You aren't middle eastern, right? 💀

[dapper laurel]

In a certain sense we have all already passed a natural selection test

[spice bobcat]

No I'm not

I'm asian

[formal pilot]

Yeah you passed it

[spice bobcat]

Natural selection tickles me

[mortal depot]

Check it out later tho

[spice bobcat]

-# Bro... I'm from Pakiland

[formal pilot]

That's really sad

[mortal depot]

Still the wrong one

[formal pilot]

You sent me some video links, I can also send links in response

[spice bobcat]

It's literally the hadith

Word by word

[formal pilot]

I'm sorry to hear that my friend, get well soon

[spice bobcat]

You're european right? Oh wait

You're middle eastern I just remembered

[formal pilot]

Even worse

[spice bobcat]

Iranian

[formal pilot]

Let's drop the topic

[spice bobcat]

Oh my Allah

[formal pilot]

[spice bobcat]

My condolences

[mortal depot]

They literally converted atheists lmao

[spice bobcat]

[dapper laurel]

There could have been a doctor in my place, but here I am

[formal pilot]

I'll send you videos of ex Christians

[spice bobcat]

Btw, fight me owo 1v1

[thorny steeple]

[mortal depot]

They mostly have bad arguements and don't have good objections to the ressurection

No true Scotsman fallacy

[formal pilot]

Tbh even a doc would be jobless in your country rn 💀

[mystic bay]

I am a doctor and I work at a chocolate shop

[dapper laurel]

Actually we lack doctors here, there would probably be a lot of work for them

[manic juniper]

Perfection

[waxen shale]

I clearly know this and it did not said "Young girl" it said virgin. The story is jabir try to marry a widow. And prophet Muhammad (pbuh) recommended him to marry a virgin. And theres not a single word about fondling. Why you even citing things like this ?

[mystic bay]

Only if I pay for them

Don't even get a discount

[formal pilot]

I mean yeah asking about resurrection in itself is bad argument

[dapper laurel]

What kind of chocolate do you have?

Do you also have Italian chocolate?

[mortal depot]

The ressurection has historical proof
And even has a minimum facts arguement

[mystic bay]

It's luxury high-end stuff, all made by hand at the shop

I'm learning how to do it

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsey-food-finally-some-good-fucking-food-master-chef-gif-17833684

[mortal depot]

Ok

Dms are closed

Bruh

[dapper laurel]

So no Italian chocolate 😔

[formal pilot]

Last week i was looking through the historic proofs, i couldn't find any, could you please provide records of resurrection?

[dapper laurel]

I hope Allah makes us sell more chocolate abroad

[formal pilot]

Amen

[thorny steeple]

Amen too

[dapper laurel]

👌🏻🙏🏻

[dapper laurel]

🙏🏻

[formal pilot]

Ik an Iraqi doctor, he's jobless rn

[thorny steeple]

Well employ him

[spice bobcat]

PREACH 🙏🏻 He's gonna castrate you

[mystic bay]

https://tenor.com/view/chocolate-bar-gif-26291259

[dapper laurel]

I can hire him

[formal pilot]

It's crazy mustafa btw

[thorny steeple]

Lol running is a better option

[spice bobcat]

Oh I know

[thorny steeple]

A apple a day keeps Mustafa away

[spice bobcat]

Definitely he's too crazy

[formal pilot]

Yeah he's trying to leave the country

[thorny steeple]

Yeah chainsaw appearing

[dapper laurel]

One of my kebab sellers is called Mustafa

[thorny steeple]

Well what a coincidence 😂

[formal pilot]

On a better note, interest rates on home loans are 0% in iraq

[mortal depot]

They are on your dms they answer objections too and are only facts

[manic juniper]

They only sell kebabs

[dapper laurel]

Then he can be a doctor in Italy

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/salesman-squidgame-squidgame2-the-recruiter-gongyoo-gif-18206378981091367881

So serious.

[dapper laurel]

Or a kebab seller

[thorny steeple]

Yeah nothing else

[dapper laurel]

Kebab is my drug

[dapper laurel]

The problem is that I always get diarrhea after kebab

[formal pilot]

He applied for the UK, let's see how it goes

[dapper laurel]

Anything to avoid being Turkish

[waxen shale]

Wdym by crazy mustafa ? Is that like a common slurs?

[dapper laurel]

😔

[spice bobcat]

Don't tell him Aladdin

Please

[thorny steeple]

Nah that's his username

[manic juniper]

What happened to the angry Arab

[formal pilot]

Apparently he supports homosexuality that's why everyone gave him that name

[waxen shale]

Lol Okay

[thorny steeple]

Well ain't Aladdin

[manic juniper]

One of the craziest things anyone could do

[formal pilot]

You're movin like an imposter ngl

[waxen shale]

He probably gay ? Lol

[dapper laurel]

Too crazy, too crazy

[formal pilot]

He's Iraqi muslim

[manic juniper]

Iraqis always support homosexuality or end up being homosexual themselves

[formal pilot]

After electing trump and opening cheese factories in USA

[dapper laurel]

I've noticed that lesbian girls are dating girls who look like guys, this is the craziest thing ever

With all due respect to lesbians