🧠｜serious-chat

[weary belfry]

Ohh I see. Btw how's u, John john

[thorny steeple]

this is serious chat

[thorny steeple]

Well so far wbu

[weary belfry]

True let's escape to general chat @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[weary belfry]

Gtk gtk

[odd compass]

Iemmello vi ho purgato ancora

[thorny steeple]

Che ridere

[odd compass]

Già

[thorny steeple]

Sì

[feral river]

He will stay in power with us, supported by the people.

I hope he won’t resign next term

I will miss him

[shy summit]

Yeah no we are not advocating for shit like killing protected classes here. This is your first and last warning. Go read the Discord Terms of Service, Community Guidelines and Server Rules

[manic juniper]

Hopefully he takes away the citizenship of all mammals in America

[minor kindle]

Are u jocking shit?!

[bronze bobcat]

So I stand corrected? Getting all the merits being a dictator is as it is and completing past projects should be the least anyone with any political power should accomplish

[shy summit]

I’m being completely serious

[minor kindle]

I'm too, if you feel that you're concerned it's your thought idk

Plus, this unnatural behavior is a complete ignorance

[manic juniper]

Unnatural behaviour means that it doesn't naturally occur, correct?

[shy summit]

First off. It’s completely natural by definition. It happens without intervention.

[manic juniper]

Pls don't trigger the trap

[shy summit]

Second. I would direct you to reading the studies on the subject. They are quite conclusive

[minor kindle]

Abt homo.....

[manic juniper]

Yes, it doesn't naturally occur right?

[minor kindle]

No prb i didn't say anything

[minor kindle]

What do u think mrs?

[manic juniper]

Yes, now I don't know if he took the merits at the time but his later followers made sure that everyone would hear about these "achievements"

[manic juniper]

I don't have an opinion, I'm asking a question before I decide

They even attributed many achievements of the past governments, some of whom date to the foundation to Italy or shortly after it, to Mussolini

[bronze bobcat]

The non-supporters also made sure that all his crimes would see the light of day as well
I guess being a dead person known both for his good and bad isn't too bad either 🤷‍♂️

[manic juniper]

Hitler too is sometimes rewarded with the achievements of the Weimar Republic, the downward economic spiral inverted 2 years before he rose to power for one

[bronze bobcat]

now that's crazy 🤣 but then again he was a dictator so who's to say he didn't force those people to lay all those achievements on him

[manic juniper]

Most if not all fascist families survived WW2, heck Mussolini's family did. There were a lot of them, so many of these lies are spread by people with interests or whose ties are to the old guard

[bronze bobcat]

that's a smart move imo
Taking all the credits of the Weimar and un-listing the 1 most severe thing that ripped the country in shreds

[minor kindle]

Aweful

[manic juniper]

?

[bronze bobcat]

That's the common thing to do
In the old era and some mythologies also, there are always some supporters who do shit like this for their (masters maybe?) on the drop of the hat to reduce some of the smoke surrounding them
and it was often done after a war or a terrible battle so it worked to gain sympathy also
generally speaking, I think it's a good political maneuver

[minor kindle]

I asked u, because you've already known my answer i don't need to mention it. Again, but it's okay, i'm against the unnatural behaviors and beliefs like that

[shy summit]

https://discord.com/safety/hateful-conduct-policy-explainer

Once again. It’s completely natural

[minor kindle]

Okay, but i just explained my opinion right?!

[manic juniper]

Alright then I guess these lizards aren't natural? Why are they all homosexual
https://www.inaturalist.org/guide_taxa/626318

[minor kindle]

I didn't mean any hurting to anyone

[shy summit]

Your opinion doesn’t change the fact that it’s natural

[manic juniper]

I thought it was unnatural

[shy summit]

No it’s natural

[minor kindle]

Ofc with u

[shy summit]

It occurs as a matter of human embryonic development

[manic juniper]

Everything I don't like: unnatural
Tomatoes are unnatural

[minor kindle]

What the bull of.. You're judging really?! You think it's. Natural

Okay, what abt pregnancy?!

[manic juniper]

Think≠Know

[shy summit]

Read the scientific literature

[minor kindle]

Post it here

[manic juniper]

I did btw

[minor kindle]

Could u resend it please!

[shy summit]

I’ve posted dozens of meta studies on the subject. At this point its a matter of a simply typing it into a search engine.

Or even asking ChatGPT

[manic juniper]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33123817/

[minor kindle]

What i said and expressed previously is the up coming law that Ms.Donald Trump will applicate about the homo... And so far

[manic juniper]

He wants to annex Mexico, that place is full of homosexual lizards

[minor kindle]

It's gonna be everywhere not particularly there

[manic juniper]

It's not a good idea if he wants to get rid of them. If anything he should give most southwestern states to Mexico

[manic juniper]

No, they don't live in Greenland and Canada

[minor kindle]

How?!

[minor kindle]

Everywhere= every area of USA

[manic juniper]

They don't live in Alaska or Hawaii

[minor kindle]

We don't know, sis it's a few news of this. New program and that's all

[shy summit]

You can’t ban gay in USA it’s unconstitutional to do so.

[minor kindle]

We'll see later

It's up

[shy summit]

There’s no question here. The law is clear.

[minor kindle]

Btw what are u considering yourself as a boy or a girl?

[minor kindle]

Is there smtng unclear that shouldn't be mentionned!

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-asleep-monjjunirawr-cat-sleeping-cat-sleep-cat-eepy-gif-2038678134769585569

[manic juniper]

I would make square-shaped states unconstitutional

Who thought this was a good idea

[formal pilot]

@shy summit why did they banned the word geh, I can't type it

[manic juniper]

Hanee's whole reason of existence

[formal pilot]

[formal pilot]

Just Ban squares

They're edgy

[shy summit]

XD

[lucid veldt]

halo

[thorny steeple]

Gaì

[shy summit]

Hmmmm

[native mango]

[ashen mortar]

Get some life guys

[shy summit]

What are you on about? @ashen mortar

[bronze bobcat]

people still say that? Damn, I thought a lot would have changed in a year

[native mango]

You are right

[tough gull]

Cuz y'all spamming the word and insulting people

Never forget guys, homophobia is strictly not tolerated in the server. So please be careful

[shy summit]

Indeed

[tough gull]

Ask a bisexual hahaha

[shy summit]

Yeah, the sex comment was inappropriate however.

[tough gull]

Tbh they were NOT having sex

It was a music performance and just the dance choreography

Idk what other word to call it other than that

[shy summit]

Good for them ig

[tough gull]

They were highly criticised by lesbians as ‘queerbaiting’

But do u think if it's 2 bisexual women, it would be queerbaiting?

That's my question

Do you think the famous Madonna, Britney Spears and Christina Aguilers kiss is queerbaiting?

[static pivot]

What's life

[shy summit]

Not really?

[tough gull]

People get offended by literally anything nowadays

[shy summit]

Again, not really. People like to pretend that most people get offended.

[latent hedge]

i'm concerned at how many of these children are so homophobic. is the younger generation really that ignornat? how have humans still not grown up past this issue?

[stoic cedar]

How were you born?

[feral river]

Why is the first thing comes to your head which is I thought if you want to change something, that either is under the law or constitution.

[latent hedge]

you ask like like you think a person only has value if they have children, which is ridiculous

[feral river]

Have you ever think that if something can be completed or conducted without the limit of law, and there was another system that assures it won’t go wrong, which will be more efficient ?

And that typical example, is us I believe well exactly it is.

[stoic cedar]

Were you born by two opposite genders or the same?

[latent hedge]

again, not everyone has or wants children. even heterosexual people often don't have children

[stoic cedar]

I am asking about you

[latent hedge]

and there are plenty of same sex couples who do have kids

[stoic cedar]

How do they have kids?

[latent hedge]

in vitro, surrogacy, sperm donors, etc

[shy summit]

Because that’s how the law works

[stoic cedar]

So there is a need for both genders correct?

[latent hedge]

there is a need for both sexes but the purpose of life is not just to have kids. same sex couples can have kids. heterosexual couples can choose to not have kids. your argument is invalid

[feral river]

And it really lower the efficiency if everything needs a trial on a random judge

[thorny steeple]

yeah then sex with animals should be legal

[shy summit]

That’s how most legal systems work dude

[latent hedge]

no because an animal cannot consent

sex should be consensual

[feral river]

Even somehow it was related to corruption well I mean “result corruption” not “process corruption”

[shy summit]

Uh wtf

[feral river]

The process cannot be corrupted under the rule of law but the result might be

[stoic cedar]

There are certain rules for living, do not mess with Nature

[latent hedge]

having children is not a rule

[thorny steeple]

depends, sex with slaves aint consensual

[shy summit]

That’s why its rape

[latent hedge]

and homosexuality IS natural. there are hundreds of species which have homosexuality

[thorny steeple]

its not rape, u bought em

[stoic cedar]

But having sex with the same gender is not meant to be done

[latent hedge]

slaves should not exist and should not be raped

[shy summit]

Its rape because they didn’t consent

[latent hedge]

yes it is. homosexuality has always existed and always will

[stoic cedar]

Okay go on you will create a lot of diseases in the future

[latent hedge]

this is your ignorance and homophobia. you have been taught wrong. do some research into homosexiality in animals

[thorny steeple]

then another point, killing an animal aint murder
then having sex without consent with em, is sex...

[stoic cedar]

WTF don't drag innocent animals in this

[feral river]

Our legal system was used for solve people’s problem, you can’t sue a party, a political entity, or anything related to an official, every trial was given which related to the party member was decided internally

[latent hedge]

murder and sex are not equal. that is false equivalency

[feral river]

And it was open because we have our party principle system, above the law ? Or some official is above the law ?

You never know that fact lol but it might be

[thorny steeple]

nah i aint equating em, im just telling that the laws that apply to humans dont apply to animals

so sex with animals is no different then sex with same gender

[formal pilot]

One time subscription to enjoy the world

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[latent hedge]

that logic is so wrong i can't even start. you are making comparisons that have nothing to do with each other and making leaps of logic

[shy summit]

So you’re just completely ignorant of sexual education then?

[latent hedge]

most of these ignorant children have no sex education

[tough gull]

How is having sex between two humans the same as sex between a human and some other species? Are you out of your mind?

[latent hedge]

or biology education

[stoic cedar]

I don't want to even discuss this anymore

[latent hedge]

or history education

[stoic cedar]

Carry on

[formal pilot]

[vivid imp]

ohhh lawd

[shy summit]

Yeah, no stopping this right here. Sex with animals is not the same thing. Enough

[latent hedge]

because you know you are wrong and have no intelligent argument based on actual science and fact

[stoic cedar]

[shy summit]

You can take your ignorance elsewhere. We can have an actual discussion but if you just want to liken one demographic to zoophilia, you’re just a dishonest party.

[stoic cedar]

Forgive me lord for there sin

[latent hedge]

the lord created homosexuality. it is not a sin.

[tough gull]

It's sheer idiocy imo

[vivid imp]

https://tenor.com/view/twitter-blue-checkmark-twitter-checkmark-checkmark-twitter-blue-robot-gif-593653175632249302

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[tough gull]

Like how can they even be held in similar regard in the first place

[vivid imp]

https://tenor.com/view/why-crying-emotional-tears-sobbing-gif-17306861

you cant stop me

[formal pilot]

Level 5 is required for gif perms

[latent hedge]

i will be blocking the moronic homophobes now

[shy summit]

Indeed

[rancid crag]

Hi, can we talk about sexuality here?

[tough gull]

You're religious Diet?

[tough gull]

Sure

[stoic cedar]

[tough gull]

As long as it's respectful!!

[vivid imp]

thanks for letting me know awesome Aladdin

[latent hedge]

i'm not but if a religious person wants to argue about god, i have a lot of education on that subject, too

[shy summit]

So long as the discussion is in good faith there is no issue.

[tough gull]

I see

I have no problem religious cuz my religion doesn't prohibit me from being the way I am

[latent hedge]

for example, the part of leviticus in the bible the homophobes love to quote was changed in the 1940s. the orginal passage was about pedophilia, not homosexuality

[tough gull]

So it's all good for me

[shy summit]

This… FUCKING THIS

[latent hedge]

and homosexuality is not only natural, it is observed in hundreds of animal species

[tough gull]

Please do christians even take the Leviticus seriously? Doesn't the Leviticus prohibit them from having pork.... They still have it

🤷‍♂️

[latent hedge]

exactly! it is pure ignorance and hatred and hypocritical

[rancid crag]

Ok good, so I am heterosexual (I think hh), and my father thinks that being a LGBT or LGBTQIAP+, are not normal people, unnatural gender, and I would like to see your opinion on this subject to be sure.

[feral river]

as long as they are not causing social unrest waving that stupid flag and march around the city, I don’t hate their existence even appreciate we have a such diverse society

Regardless what they exactly are, Do not disturb the social order

[tough gull]

I'm not concerned about what your father thinks. What do YOU think??

[latent hedge]

absolutely disturb the social order. the social order is terrible

[crude widget]

no they don't take it seriously at all

[tough gull]

Then they should stop quoting the Leviticus for their convenience ez

[crude widget]

they have scripture from the new testament to justify eating pork and ignoring leviticus

[feral river]

I don’t hate LGBt people, but I definitely support the suppression against LGBT movement groups 👍

Immediate suppression if they disturb the social order

[crude widget]

oh wait, i just now understand the full context of what you are saying

[latent hedge]

then you support the death of queer people the same as a nazi supports the death of jewish people. you want an entire subset of humans to not exist

[crude widget]

my apologies

you are right

[crude widget]

absolutely!

[tough gull]

Well the Nazis did eliminate queer people back then too

[rancid crag]

I don't know, I think that being a LGBT person etc... it's your right, but you shouldn't abuse it, like being born a man like 100% man and becoming a woman, no?

[latent hedge]

yes they did. the pink triangles

[tough gull]

However let's not talk much Nazis here @latent hedge

[tough gull]

Did u see that reference in Lady Gaga's Born this way music video???

[latent hedge]

again, your ignornace of biology and sexuality is showing

[tough gull]

So you're ok with gays but don't agree with transgenders?

[latent hedge]

trans people have also always existed and always will. there were an entire sect of ancient greek priests who were recognized as trans

[feral river]

Lol you didn’t see what I’m saying

[tough gull]

There r many references in ancient Indian scriptures

[latent hedge]

and the native american two spirits

[tough gull]

Gender fluidity is also mentioned in Hindu scriptures

[latent hedge]

isn't there an intersex hindu god?

[manic juniper]

Homosexuality is amoral

[crude widget]

like, even if we grant you that LGBT isn't normal, we still don't get to force people to be "normal" just because we don't like it

[tough gull]

Debatable but yeah... Unrelated but there's also a faction that does believe God has no gender, God is gender fluid

[latent hedge]

wrong. hatred of other humans for the way they exist is amoral

[manic juniper]

No that's immoral. Homosexuality is amoral, just like a chair

It's not a moral matter

[rancid crag]

mmm, yes i think, but i woman born with a male device i'm ok, a trans girl, but and too for boys, but not born a man 100% et be a woman and I don't believe in any religion

[latent hedge]

ah, i see. i misunderstood

[latent hedge]

a persons sex and gender are not only not the same thing but not anyone's business. let people be who they are

[rancid crag]

Yes, I don't think that, my father think that

[feral river]

happy new year for u

[stoic cedar]

True that

[manic juniper]

We are in year 7, happy new year my Chinese friend

[crude widget]

i stand corrected, but I could then direct my comment to your father then

it's the way i see it

[tough gull]

Of all the things I do know

[rancid crag]

ye ok

[tough gull]

I can definitely say

[feral river]

Awwww we will finally took over the world

[stoic cedar]

@manic juniper ?

[tough gull]

Watching gay movies DOES NOT turn you gay

[latent hedge]

humans will not evolve and be truly free until anyone can live as who and what they want

[rancid crag]

Ye ok (:

[manic juniper]

Are you telling me that Revenge of the Sith won't turn me into a Jedi

[latent hedge]

watching straight movies doesn't make us striahgt, so yeah lol

[reef burrow]

wait but BL manhwa turn me into Bi, so does that count?

[stoic cedar]

Isfrun I need to talk

[tough gull]

HAHAHA

[manic juniper]

Being a ginger isn't the norm either, why isn't it considered an illness or unnatural

[latent hedge]

watching finding nemo didn't make me a fish or a dentist

[manic juniper]

Very few gingers in this world

[latent hedge]

2% of the population has red hair but we don't say red hair shouldn't exist or isn't valid

[crude widget]

right, we need to dye their hair to a "normal" color (joking)

[tough gull]

😭😭

[crude widget]

sorry, didn't mean to hit reply there

[manic juniper]

Black and brown hair only, the others are a mental illness

[crude widget]

blonde is the worst offense of them all

[latent hedge]

99% of atoms are helium or hydrogen but we don't say the last 1% of all other elements are unnatural

[reef burrow]

What are you talking about, seriously

[manic juniper]

They sure enjoy being overrepresented 🤢

[stoic cedar]

@reef burrow can you please ask @manic juniper to talk to me

[rancid crag]

lgbt?

[manic juniper]

The other atoms

The other elements

[rancid crag]

oh ok

[crude widget]

right that's looking at the entire universe

[reef burrow]

Why seek their attention so much?

[latent hedge]

any atoms that isn't helium or hydrogen should be banned!

[manic juniper]

All those stupid elements that quickly decade into others instead of maintaining their chemical features

[crude widget]

we get a different composition when we look purely at earth

[reef burrow]

Does that relevant to our conversation? I mean...

[manic juniper]

You can't convince me that they are valid

Pure mental illness

[latent hedge]

yes, because those who say queerness is unnatural say that because the percentage of queer is lower than heterosecxual

we are making humorous fun of that argument by showing percentage of existence does not invalidate that existence

[reef burrow]

We can't just shake the whole statistics, also I don't get how queers involve with atomic structure and stuff

[manic juniper]

Because exceptions exist, they are not unnatural

[rancid crag]

For millions of years, nature has been composed of male and female, then humans started to mix, so technically speaking it's unnatural, but that doesn't mean it's not good.

[stoic cedar]

Because I need to talk to her

[latent hedge]

look up homosexuality in animal species to see how wrong that argument is

[reef burrow]

Wait wait please give me a quick recap on earlier conversation, cause I'm seeing shit

[reef burrow]

Alright

[stoic cedar]

Please

[manic juniper]

Untrue, what's the sex of land snails?

[tough gull]

Basically their point is: homosexuality is being disregarded because it's a small minority of people apparently.
Only the other hand, in the universe any element other then hydrogen n helium constitute to an almost negligible percentage.....
They're just drawing a comparison

[reef burrow]

I don't know man, I can't help

[manic juniper]

Why are there lizards without males? What happened to the males

[rancid crag]

omg 😂 wtf

[rancid crag]

lol I write nothing forget

[manic juniper]

Idk I joined later

[stoic cedar]

Just let her know I need to talk

[tough gull]

Have u heard of the famous gay penguins

They're very popular on tiktok

🙃

[reef burrow]

A fucking weird comparison I gotta say

[manic juniper]

Yeah they adopted an egg

[tough gull]

Umm lowkey agreed but they've got a point

[tough gull]

(kinda similar to homosexual humans ain't it)

[manic juniper]

No, these exceptions exist all the times in nature

Fertile females in ants

[tough gull]

Do you know about exceptions and anomalies in chemistry? Do you know why they're called so???

[reef burrow]

Yea

[latent hedge]

clownfish can shange sex, so can some amphibians - see Jurassic park for how an island of female dinosaurs suddenly had eggs. it's fictional story but the point is nature is queer as hell and always has been

[stoic cedar]

@reef burrow

[reef burrow]

Exception exist in the nature and that's it, comparing the statistics is just idiotic... Everyone has fucking preference

[static pivot]

I'm a female

[manic juniper]

There are reptiles that are capable of parthenogenesis, it's not recorded in modern dinosaurs though

[stoic cedar]

Lmao

[manic juniper]

The closest related parthenogenetic animals today could be crocodilians

But it's poorly understood though

[static pivot]

I'll make this the gayest server ever one day

That's already 2025 resolution

[reef burrow]

I can't help, just ping her a couple times of something

[stoic cedar]

I guess she blocked me

[latent hedge]

i blocked them

[tough gull]

Even the discord partnered LGBTQ server is not as gay as us

[reef burrow]

Nice goal I guess?

[stoic cedar]

And also I am not familiar with discord

[manic juniper]

Idk who is talking but if he's who I think then yeah I blocked him many days ago

[reef burrow]

I don't have any idea man

[manic juniper]

He tagged me 8 times for no reason

[static pivot]

blocking each other 😭

[manic juniper]

I don't think he blocked me

But he should

[reef burrow]

Well just ignore it, people are brain fuck nowadays anyway

[thorny steeple]

Hi everyone

[static pivot]

Leave that, who's the girl in your pfp

[stoic cedar]

Thank you

[reef burrow]

Hey

[manic juniper]

I did, that's why I blocked him, it's annoying to get notifs while I'm playing

[unkempt venture]

Hello •-•

[reef burrow]

Hey, welcome to the chat

[thorny steeple]

How are you doing

[unkempt venture]

Thank you sweetie!

[reef burrow]

Yea I understand

[stoic cedar]

Pardon me but I didn't mean to disturb you or make you feel uncomfortable

[reef burrow]

I'm doing fine so far, new year is near, so happy new year in advance

[thorny steeple]

Same to you

[reef burrow]

How you doing?

[stoic cedar]

Nion i need to talk to her for real

[unkempt venture]

I'm doing great, I hope it's the same with you

[reef burrow]

Just tell me the problem, and I will resolve it

[thorny steeple]

Dm me

[unkempt venture]

So what's the topic of this chat? •-•

[reef burrow]

Okay?

[tough gull]

Homosexuality

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[feral river]

When they realize that they were being discriminated wholly by some people is caused by themselves ?

[stoic cedar]

What happened was I tagged her several times admiring her pfp but I was just complementing her. I didn't mean anything bad. I want to talk to her about it and sort it out

[reef burrow]

Weird comparison between, homosexuality and fundamental elements

[feral river]

With their stupid theory, stupid ideology to tell how majority of people should do ?

That was totally fucked

And they are cooked now

[unkempt venture]

Weird

[tough gull]

I wouldn't say so, a lot of queer PPL just want to be left alone

[feral river]

They will be okay if they don’t do anything stupid

[tough gull]

So many queer teenagers get bullied for just existing

[feral river]

For some fucking rights and tell majority of people what to do, what the fuck

We don’t give that shit regardless of your freaking identity which I can’t care less

Lol

[tough gull]

The struggle for rights wouldn't be there if they had been guaranteed un the first place

[manic juniper]

In reptilian society such things are considered the norm and don't require special protections

[feral river]

Then here you are, what’s the result ? Being discriminated even more

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately our society was created by mammals

[tough gull]

If a gay man hadn't been killed for just being gay, the pride movement wouldn't exist today

[feral river]

I never said they should be discriminated, but they are being discriminated for some certain obvious fucking reason

[tough gull]

Then by your logic even the me2 movement was wrong? Cuz misogyny and sexism is still prevalent in the world

[reef burrow]

I see but the thing is that, if you wanna admire her pfp just say it more resolving. Pinging will only cause some kind of annoyance to the person, so wait for her to be online or when she is free, and tell her your admiration

[manic juniper]

I don't think that he knows that movement since few people in China speak English or follow certain international trends

[bronze bobcat]

I'm stunned about how accurate that is 😂

[feral river]

I never said they were wrong, but I’m saying what they have done for themselves, ain’t work, and even attract more people to hate them

Now they are completely a political issue

They are totally cooked

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/broob-broseidon-smitty-gif-24263466

[stoic cedar]

I agree with you, it was my mistake but can you arrange a healthy talk with her

[reef burrow]

Wait I'm confuse again, what the hell is the current topic

[tough gull]

Same issue with feminism today lol

But doesn't mean feminism is wrong

[feral river]

Because once something is on politics, then we got a typical stuff to align with and all ez to be justified to against them

[reef burrow]

What about you ask her nicely this time, maybe she will have a change of heart

[stoic cedar]

I don't know if my messages are visible to her

[tough gull]

But that still doesn't mean the very fundamental of the movement would uproot itself

[reef burrow]

@tough gull please tell me what the hell is the current topic?

[manic juniper]

In western countries it's different, people from any movement express themselves in a tawdry manner, it's not unique to LGBT because Trump supporters do the same

Even farmers in Netherlands and France do

[reef burrow]

I mean in this chat, fool

[stoic cedar]

Or if she is ignoring me 😭

[tough gull]

That homosexuals are being discriminated against because of the flamboyance shown in pride events

[stoic cedar]

I am not able to react to her messages in this chat

[reef burrow]

You kno what, I give up

You fuck yourself up real good

[reef burrow]

Ah, okay

[stoic cedar]

Please 🙏🏻 do not

@manic juniper forgive me for my sins

If you are able to see this please reply or react

[tough gull]

They won't see it if they've blocked you

[reef burrow]

Can we just stop talking about homosexuality? Cause that majority of groups live on their own, they are not doing shit to the environment, so let it be and move on

[stoic cedar]

I never wanted to disturb you or make you uncomfortable 😖

[stoic cedar]

Please help @reef burrow

[manic juniper]

Only if I click on it but it'd be against the entire point of blocking

[reef burrow]

Dude stop, just move on..

[tough gull]

Yes I said it keeping that in mind lol

[stoic cedar]

Just a chance

[reef burrow]

Yea that desperation is something else

[stoic cedar]

I don't want to get blocked by her or anyone

[tough gull]

Completely irrelevant

[feral river]

The result is they do

[reef burrow]

Yea sure but dude desperation is something else

[feral river]

Lol they were suppressed in China, even my nazi friend supported that

And he’s a LGBT technically

[stoic cedar]

Nion be my bestie for this matter

I'll always be by your side @reef burrow

[reef burrow]

Now your freaking me out

[stoic cedar]

Let her know

[tough gull]

So feminism should stop too?

[manic juniper]

Feel free to block if someone bothers you too much

[tough gull]

If anything feminism is the most commercialised thing ever!!!

[feral river]

They won’t stop, but what they do will accelerate their death on the society

[reef burrow]

Yea I'm tempting that, that dude desperation is just sorrowful

[stoic cedar]

Thanks for your help

[feral river]

And they do that, in reality lol

[tough gull]

Their death as in?

[stoic cedar]

Thanks for your help @reef burrow. May god reward you

[reef burrow]

Thanks you to

[manic juniper]

Feminism makes little sense to me from an ideological standpoint, it only makes sense from a pragmatic point of view

Or maybe if it's a transitional state of society

[stoic cedar]

I'll move on and never turn back

[reef burrow]

Anyway I'm going now, I can't keep up with this chat

[feral river]

Me in a random party education station

[reef burrow]

Happy new year everyone, and yea good day

[manic juniper]

Happy new year

[stoic cedar]

Thanks again bye. Happy New year 🎊

[manic juniper]

How do those operate

[feral river]

And that list of book: Hitler, Mussolini

[feral river]

Funded by the government and it was just a random place you can visit

[shy summit]

I should pin this

[feral river]

You can charge your phone here

You can get a free paper a bunch of free stuff

Even you can post on your wechat about this station and you will probably receive some gifts

That’s how it works lol

[manic juniper]

Lol so it's like farming reputation points but in real life

[feral river]

And that list of book you can see it’s Hitler, Mussolini, fascism stuff

[shy summit]

Bro farming Renegade points

[feral river]

Yeah i got a book from this station they gifted their people pretty friendly and all those are party officials

[manic juniper]

Who is allowed in these stations? People of any age?

[feral river]

Anyone lol

It’s opened in the public place

[manic juniper]

Casually keeping books on 20th century European dictators for everyone to read

[feral river]

Party education center lol

But you can relax from here

Yeah they got some Xi jinping stuff I see it

[manic juniper]

I'm sorry bro I cannot attend our mum's funeral, I'm reading the Mein Kampf at the party education station

[feral river]

This was funny

[shy summit]

Jesus Christ

[feral river]

Hitler, Khrushchev, Mussolini, Kennedy

[manic juniper]

This reminds me of Palpatine's quote, if one is to understand the great mystery one must study all its aspects

[feral river]

And there was a santa

[manic juniper]

@shy summit can you check the deleted messages logs?

[feral river]

Obviously 😂

[manic juniper]

[shy summit]

I saw it

[manic juniper]

The worst of all these figures, his labour camps are still up and working

[bronze bobcat]

we legit have that stuff as part of our history syllabus in 9th and 10th grade

[feral river]

Lol after few days my friend working in the camps will come back and we will have a talk about camps

Cuz we can’t talk that on the wechat u know

Censorship stuff getting strict

[manic juniper]

Do they make you read their books? I only recall us studying the content of the Mein Kampf to understand Hitler's ideology and 19th-20th century stereotypes

[feral river]

He’s working there as a staff for doing what idk but he earns 2000 USD a month

[manic juniper]

Is it worse these days?

[feral river]

Which is freaking a lot in here

[feral river]

Well yes obviously after the covid

I can’t even post some political stuff on the web cuz it may damage my liability to work for the party ?

[bronze bobcat]

We don't have entire books on them but we have multiple chapters of the unfolding of these events in chronological order
the collective event would be "The European Revolution"
which started with the French, proceeded by German (Weimar + Nazi), then the Russian Revolution completed with WW1 and WW2
we have about 1-2 chapters of the book designated to each of these

[manic juniper]

We have similar stuff but I found it funny that they casually keep entire books on them/by them for everyone to read

[bronze bobcat]

I think they should
people should know theirs and the world's history
it is necessary if we are ever to unite our minds to aim for a better and developed world

[manic juniper]

Time to find CCP-free moderated spaces

[feral river]

Byw that’s all nice in their station but they really need to replace those books lol that had me

[bronze bobcat]

but it seems the world is going to shit with how things are right now

[bronze bobcat]

I don't think China has any of those

[feral river]

Santa, hitler, mussolini, gifts, friendly people, party official, communist party ?

I would say holy shit but it was real

[bronze bobcat]

I need a library like that near my house

[feral river]

And every district have this, at least one

[bronze bobcat]

no wonder you guys are cracking up IMOs and whatnot

[manic juniper]

Well idk if a random kid that picks up the book by a dictator on how Jews are responsible for wars being lost and the money being controlled by them would turn out well if they don't know the context behind it or who those people were or what they did

[shy summit]

How so

[prisma cipher]

👀

[manic juniper]

When I was younger and I had unrestricted access to internet I used to believe in some pseudoscience because I couldn't tell it was based off nothing

[feral river]

Well nah it was not the book like what you have said

[manic juniper]

A biography then?

[feral river]

It was based on a general, objective view

[manic juniper]

That's fun then

[feral river]

Like that but I didn’t read that book

[bronze bobcat]

well I can think of a few scenarios
No one young enough to confuse that would willingly step into a library and pick up a 500, brown paged, no pictures novel AND read it full
and anyone smart enough to do it will obviously ask questions about it and dig deeper which won't create the impression that you imply

[manic juniper]

I know at least two 9 years old that would read a book without pictures out of curiosity

[bronze bobcat]

true spirit of democracy is being broken in many countries due to personal greed and self interest, wars are breaking out everywhere causing the deaths of millions, biological warfare is being committed, riots are breaking out in the name of religion despite all religions (except 1) preaching about peace and harmony, everyone feels threatened by everyone
I can go on

[feral river]

well he’s pretty popular and you can get his book in around 2-6 USD

[prisma cipher]

What if kids read it and find it attractive? I'm surprised people study his book at school.

[bronze bobcat]

If they would willingly read a book like that simply out of curiousity, then don't you think they would be curious enough to know more about it? to dig deeper and get more information about the events they read about?

[manic juniper]

It's an important book, he basically said everything that he thought there or almost. They were also many conspiracy theories that weren't unique to him at all, we have these things still around to our days

[shy summit]

Nah fam I agree

[bronze bobcat]

not to mention, national security and individual privacy have become a joke and brainrot seems to be the new cool

[prisma cipher]

Are you crazy?

[manic juniper]

In my case when I read a lot of weird pseudoscience I kept studying more of it out of curiosity because I wasn't aware of the alternative

[feral river]

Something like this

[manic juniper]

No? There are still people that think Jews control the banks and cause wars

[feral river]

Those are pretty cheap lol

[prisma cipher]

We have some of those buried in the ground for free

[feral river]

Oh yeah mein k wasn’t banned in China

[manic juniper]

Plenty of people today that follow alternative news sources and end up in weird rabbit holes where people hold beliefs that go against reality

[manic juniper]

Why would it be

My classmate bought it to study German, quite an original way to do so

[feral river]

Well good question

[prisma cipher]

What is alternative news?

[feral river]

I didn’t discover some books were banned in China

Even something relating to the ISIS

[bronze bobcat]

well 1 thing I have always done is not entirely believe everything I read/get to know about history
history is written by victors and the narrative is 99% times twisted to suit the author
Had the Yazidi genocide survivors not spoken up, people would have believed Iran and Iraq's narrative of them being the evil ones just like how some people, to this day, believe that the US is justified for bombing the entire Middle East because they genuinely believe the narrative of nuclear weapons existing there which is exactly what the government at that time wanted them to believe

[manic juniper]

Random streamers like Hasan, podcasts like Joe Rogan or however he's called, people like Nick Fuentes that think Jews want to drive white people to extinction

[manic juniper]

Isn't that line about history being written by the victors a meme?

[bronze bobcat]

that goes for me too
I stepped into the world of philosophy last year, and like most people I started with Kafkaesque
I still re-read books by Kafka just to further my understanding of his viewpoints and each time I re-read any philosophy book, it brings out new meanings and the best part of it is that none of those new learnings or wrong

[bronze bobcat]

people have spun it like that
but it's fact

[feral river]

We are the true land of the free 🇨🇳

[manic juniper]

But it's not, it's written by whoever writes it and makes the narrative popular enough... Plenty of losers in the past whose enemies couldn't even write

[bronze bobcat]

history is always written by victors because the losers were not left alive to write it

[bronze bobcat]

for example?

[prisma cipher]

There is not normal news and alternative news. You just choose some resources and believe them.

[manic juniper]

Those in the meme, the Romans lost some wars pretty badly yet their narrative always was the most popular. Same goes for Greeks, almost annihilated by Persia yet once more they're the most popular

[manic juniper]

I'm sorry but if someone says that the moon landing is fake and that the Earth is flat I won't think that the news they're getting have normal legitimacy

[bronze bobcat]

to be fair, in the current situation, you cannot believe any news that comes from an online platform
be it the mainstream media or these alternatives
the only true, fair source of news right now is unbiased platforms where narratives aren't twisted for self-serving purposes and full information is displayed for the people, instead of snipping some parts, again for self-serving purposes

[prisma cipher]

Stupid. Give people read isis stuff and some procent of readers inspired by it and go kill neighbors.

[bronze bobcat]

almost annihilated as you say
they didn't win, but neither did the Persians
they came together to drive the Persians out of their country

[prisma cipher]

Let people read dangerous stuff isn't about freedom it about stupidness

[manic juniper]

The Persians overwhelmingly won against them, they made many Greek city-states their vassals, they just didn't care enough about expanding further into Greece.
About the Romans, they completely lost at Teutoborg, they had to prepare a revenge expedition to massacre the local tribes

[feral river]

I don’t think that’s possible btw those are not ideological books

[manic juniper]

There also was another battle Serbs had against the Ottoman Empire, the Ottomans squashed them but it's told in a completely different manner by Serbs out of pride

[prisma cipher]

I meant something else. When some news say China is bad and other news say China is good, there is no true news, these are two sides of propaganda.

[manic juniper]

Those are opinions rather than being informative though

There are people that think reeducation camps are good for example, others think that they are bad. Just ask Minecraft

[feral river]

Even you can got full series of Mao, you can be a maoist freely, you can be a nazist or racist freely in China but you still have to follow the order of the party under the leadership of the party

We just, don’t have such concern lol

[prisma cipher]

it's always visible between the lines. the mood of the article.

[manic juniper]

Alternative news would say that China has a giant nuclear-powered mechanical dragon

[feral river]

And it ain’t damaging our society, once they do protest we arrest them

They protest in tiananmen square, tanks will go on them literally

We just don’t have this concern lol

[manic juniper]

I hate getting critical hits when I'm farming

[prisma cipher]

for example if China offends someone, pro Chinese news will call those people terrorists, and others will say they are freedom fighters who were offended by China.

[feral river]

Even my friend clearly support genocide against jews, support nazism, he’s a good person in real life and he have good grades better than me lol

Let me find something about him

[prisma cipher]

He is good person until war happened and he kill a lot people because he believes stupid stuff. He isn't good person

People who thought like him kill a lot

Hate them

Time to block Minecraft

[manic juniper]

I'm like that, I would ally with aliens during an invasion if they promised they would satisfy my requests

[prisma cipher]

Done

[manic juniper]

All I ask is to recreate the conditions for a Second Mesozoic

[feral river]

He said, “facism all good I always support that, social darwinism all good, if you got a lot of traitors your country will end not those people”

[feral river]

Well what’s wrong with me

I don’t support that shit lol

[whole beacon]

Hello mine

Soooo

[feral river]

In reality that was not a topic in here

Most people don’t know what’s happening only know some mess provoked the authority and their regulation is pretty strict in that region

And they obviously, don’t give a shit

[manic juniper]

Yes I'm aware only speaking about you and other people in particular

It's like rehabilitative prison, I'm sure that most people here would be against it

[whole beacon]

Wats going on here?

[feral river]

For me, i would say don’t let even one terrorist go

That’s my stance for all the time

[prisma cipher]

Some of those who tortured people here writing good letters at home and they were "good people" They were good toward 1 class people even for animals, but they tortured not human they call them Untermensh

[whole beacon]

All i can see is some Chinese dude trying to normalize maoism and nazism.

So?

[feral river]

You would like to see it again

[manic juniper]

What about people that commit minor crimes

[feral river]

And you probably find nothing just stating some facts

[whole beacon]

Yeah why not?

Try me

[feral river]

Minor crimes ? I don’t really understand what was that

Like stealing ?

[manic juniper]

Stealing an umbrella from a shop

[feral river]

Ah just give it back and you are free

Probably won’t take you to the police station

Our legal system is not processed in the first place to solve certain things like he did steal and that is a crime, despite that, the case will be handled by some officials in the first place if it was unsolved, then will go judges

[manic juniper]

That's surprisingly progressive

[feral river]

That means if you stole that unbrella, the guy who own the unbrella can’t sue you

He can only do is call the police, and you have to give it back following the order by the police or being arrested for 3 days maximum, then case dismissed

[feral river]

And you may being educated just by case (literally police has such obligation to tell you how it was illegal)

[prisma cipher]

I put Minecraft in my personal block, it enough for me. don't see reason to ban him or something

[prisma garden]

Hi I'm new here

[whole beacon]

Ouuuuh

Hi

[prisma garden]

What is going on here guys

[feral river]

very america

[cedar bridge]

Run from here, it is cursed.

[cedar bridge]

Would you like to see very Chineseness?

[prisma garden]

Why 🤔

[cedar bridge]

It is too boring, people argue about religion and politics, although they will never make each other believe in their opposite views

@prisma garden what serious talk would you begin here?

[torpid dirge]

Indeed, becoz they haven't fectual argue and truly evidence to prove every aspect of religion wrong ...

[cedar bridge]

Can exist with certain limitations

[torpid dirge]

Limitations?

[cedar bridge]

Your freedom of speech cannot hurt freedom of others, so it should be legal

Talking bullshit is questionable but I guess that is excessive side of freedom of speech

[ashen halo]

Hello guys

Do you guys believe in equality?? 💩

[prisma cipher]

Speaking about freedom of speech

[burnt shore]

depends on the context of the situation

[prisma garden]

Only in math 😂

[feral river]

Survival for the fittest itself is equality

I hate when we get a little bit rich, we are towards to become more socialist

And that’s because some officials in poor area propagandizing their fucking theory of how party should serve the proletariants

We should get rid of it and become richer

I hate communism

And our leader literally didn’t stop them, it’s like balancing the power internally

So he can remain unchallenged

I guess so idk what’s the real situation in the party im not a party member, yet

Maybe 1-2 years later I will officially become a member of the CCp

[thorny steeple]

Happy new year to you, guys

[dapper laurel]

Russia is indeed such a benchmark for freedom of speech that all political opponents of the majority party are poisoned or left to rot in jail, not to mention the public protests

[prisma cipher]

we can talk about what happened after the military events and what happened before the military events. after the military events many things became impossible to do. our country is at war, so many things are prohibited

As for what was before, we had opposition channels, on the Internet, on TV and radio, protesters came out when they needed it.

[dapper laurel]

I can understand that, but people didn't choose to be at war with Ukraine (at least I hope so), so I wonder why limit people's freedom of speech for something they didn't want?

[prisma cipher]

the oppositionist who was poisoned was in the opposition for about 20 years, ask yourself if he was poisoned 5 years ago, that means he could have been engaged in opposition activities for 15 years and no one interfered with him. I'm not even talking about the fact that the story with the poisoning is extremely dubious

[dapper laurel]

I mean, it's part of the democratic process to have a different opinion regarding several things

[prisma cipher]

When you at war all media working for pro war propaganda, if you talk anti war stuff it means you working against Russia. People listen you don't wanna go fighting or surrender. It bad when you at war, so it forbids all opposite stuff I pretty much understand those move

[manic juniper]

Happy new year

[prisma cipher]

I don't say it good or bad, it what needs to be done imo

Happy new year 🙏

[feral river]

Process democracy does not equal to result democracy

We are the example of result democracy lol

[small eagle]

happy new years

[manic juniper]

Happy new year Baltibros

[feral river]

Well can you accept my friend request on steam ?

@manic juniper

[manic juniper]

Already done

[granite viper]

hsnan, 'urid 'an 'atahadath 'akthar ean hadha baynama la yuealiq kulun minhuma ealaa al'umur alshakhsiat libaedihima albaedu, hal yumkinuna fiel dhalik
@thorny steeple

'arsil li risalatan nasiyatan eindama takun mtfrghan litasfiat 'adhhanina (ealaa al'aqali eaqli) hataa 'asheur bialtahasun

Anyways a happy new year according to your time

[void arch]

bro use Arabic calligraphy ,its easier to read

[granite viper]

Ok ok thx u

[void arch]

ليس امرا و انما نصيحة، فارجو ان تتقبلها بصدر رحب.

[granite viper]

Thx u so much friend

@thorny steeple لم أتوقع ذلك منك على الأقل شكرًا لك يا أخي، أخيرًا أظهرت وجهك الحقيقي، ومنعتني من الدخول إلى الخادم وتحدثت عني على الخادم مثلما فعلت معك صديقك السابق... لقد فعلت الشيء نفسه معي

@thorny steeple سأنتظر الرسالة المباشرة، لدي الكثير لأقوله بالطبع بطريقة سيئة لأنك قلت إنني كسرتك بدلاً من ذلك، لقد تم عكس ذلك، فأنت أفضل مناور

[shy summit]

China is not a democracy functionally

Anyways english only here kiddos

[quasi needle]

so called communists when they get in power and give themselves all the wealth

[shy summit]

Let’s just move on from that issue because it’s just gonna end in another inhumane rant

[feral river]

They did distribute wealth to be in power in reality

[feral river]

Technically, we are not a liberal democracy, but based on the marxist -CCP Xi thought philosophy, we are a democracy based on the result of how we did well to the majority of people

For me if you give a definition based on the view of process democracy, I would say we are under the authoritarian rule

Your process democracy has nothing to do with the result whether it was democratic or not

[quasi needle]

just because it has positive outcome does not mean its a democracy

[dapper laurel]

Happy new yearz guyz

[quasi needle]

meaningful citizen participation is what makes a democracy

[feral river]

It is if you made the definition based on result

It is not if you think the process matters more than the result

[quasi needle]

no because the definition of a democracy means it is decided by the people. not that the people are satisfied

their satisfaction means null

[feral river]

Process democracy

[quasi needle]

there are no competetive elections, there is control over media, there are limited civil liberties and the absence of rule of law

[feral river]

Those are all processes

And that has nothing to do with democracy, democracy was not something which is not liberal democracy

What you are describing is liberal western typical democracy

[quasi needle]

you do realize this construct was entirely created by the CCP to justify themselves

only the CCP call themselves a democracy because they created the term "Process democracy"

[feral river]

Democracy is actually, a form of system of authority to serve the majority of people

[quasi needle]

it is by all worldwide means, still not a democracy

[feral river]

I don’t think you would disagree with it

[quasi needle]

Merriam-Webster: The meaning of DEMOCRACY is government by the people
Camrbdige: system of government in which power is held by elected representatives who are freely voted for by the people
Wikipedia: Democracy is a system of government in which state power is vested in the people or the general population of a state

[lime cobalt]

I think this depends on who is running the system, do you know Yeonmi Park, the defector of North Korea? evil jong un oppa

[quasi needle]

no, it is not. the dictionaries disagree

[feral river]

You can’t say your form of democracy is the true democracy, democracy has a LOT of forms

And yours are typical western liberal one

[quasi needle]

your form was coined by the CCP and the CCP are the only ones who use that term because it was forged to justify themselves

[quasi needle]

back to this

these are the definitions

[feral river]

You can follow that, everyone could give out a definition, yours from the fucking dictionary you chooses has nothing to do with the reality

[quasi needle]

yes it does, because you cannot create your own definitions to serve your use - oh wait.. thats what the ccp does

definitions are not up to interpretation

[feral river]

I don’t really give a shit to something if you say that’s from the dictionary, that’s from the government, etc. blablabla

[lime cobalt]

In the Akkadian era, power shifted from limited democracy to the first monarchy.

[quasi needle]

odd how you get defensive when proven wrong

[feral river]

Dude refer authority to debate is totally out of the table

That’s not how the conversation works

[quasi needle]

its off the table because you cant justify it

[feral river]

If I can told you that mine’s definition is the true one, that was not a conversation

[quasi needle]

the definitions dont matter!! ahhh!! what i say is true!!

[feral river]

That wasn’t even a debate with faith

[quasi needle]

im going to see my family goodbye

[feral river]

I never said it doesn’t matter but you can give one I can give another one

You can’t say your definition is the true one

Then how you gonna proof mine’s illegitimacy ?

[quasi needle]

democracy is an umbrella term. my form of democracy is not the true one. however, democracy is power by the people. that means the people decide, not your silly little party of the dragon emperor

@sullen epoch get a load of this

the lord of 1000 years

[feral river]

I never said my government was democratic

And your shitty democracy was fucked as what you have said

Mine’s not

[quasi needle]

you dont have a form of democracy, YIKES!

[feral river]

I never said I have one, and I don’t want to have one

[quasi needle]

"mines not" does not work when you just said my democracy doesnt work

[feral river]

Why would I give a shit to that if they keep improve my quality of living ?

[quasi needle]

backing up are we

argument squandered

goodbye

[feral river]

Dude you are so fucked with logics

That doesnt even make sense

[quasi needle]

👋 yes it does

[feral river]

Can you read what you have said for a second

😂

[lime cobalt]

dude, u said it twice, and still typing

[quasi needle]

my family was sleeping

[shy summit]

He’s not wrong

Its in violation of the spirit of democracy

Its more an oligarchy if anything

[feral river]

Him ?

I just don’t want to confuse democracy with other stuff and use other stuff to try to proof how democracy is related to them

And actually it has almost nothing to do

You can proof, using a thousand of ways to proof there was an direct link between democracy and western values, but it really has nothing to do with democracy itself with those concepts

It’s like combining little concepts with a broader concept which establish a total ideology

And I don’t give a shit to which ideology but democracy itself

Your democracy does not serve the majority of people, how does that even legitimate as a democracy ?

That was the point

And, did mine’s serving the majority of people ? I don’t really know, but I see people’s living condition is improving and that was the hard fact

Even marxism has its own definition of democracy based on the view of productivity and social productive relationships which is pretty logical and interesting

[shy summit]

Its just as I said.

[thorny steeple]

Democracy is overrated

[lunar ivy]

better than dictatorship

[keen flint]

Agreed

[thorny steeple]

Ohio is overrated

Idk I’ve never been

[thorny steeple]

What you need to know is that it is democratic

[shy summit]

Never has there been a truer statement

It’s the lowest level of apocalypse

Try florida

[thorny steeple]

Indeed, Headline: Florida man breaks into a bank to save his alleged sacred geese 🦆

[stoic cedar]

Monarchy was better na

[thorny steeple]

Ok

That’s .. an opinion..

[thorny steeple]

Absolute/ constitutional

[stoic cedar]

I agree

[feral river]

What about the state of the free texas

[thorny steeple]

Divorce Texas into 5

[feral river]

Im now at the capital of the PRC, Beijing

It’s my fourth time in here

Tiananmen square is just two blocks away from my position

[thorny steeple]

Heavily secure 🔐

[feral river]

Yeah i can see polices in every street almost

Even have special unit officer

I didn’t see that last time I was here like in 2021

I can see that from here lol

[visual hare]

why is that??is there any problem !

[thorny steeple]

Lmao

[feral river]

Our former leader, the founder of the country, Mao zedong is in there, his body was kept

And you can see his portrait

[thorny steeple]

How's Mao's body

[formal pilot]

Tian shang tai yong hong ya hong tong tong ei Moe zedong ei

I've definitely butchered that

[thorny steeple]

Chinese Aladdin

Yeah muted

[formal pilot]

All spam ?t in muted chat, common Aladdin W

[thorny steeple]

Ye ye ye

[thorny steeple]

Yo explain to this person why the g word is blocked @arctic prairie

[arctic prairie]

please do

cant even express my sexuality in peace

[dense agate]

which g word ?

[dense agate]

lel really ?

hahaha wow

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[dense agate]

what's next, banning the g*ys ?

[thorny steeple]

It was misused from what I heard the g word

[dense agate]

however it was "misused", this isn't a solution kek

[thorny steeple]

Well people are creative y'know

[dense agate]

the moderation behind this choice doesn't seem to be tho

[thorny steeple]

Well that's true this ain't a democracy after y'know

[dense agate]

yea, it doesn't have to be

[thorny steeple]

Reminds me of the roman republic

[dense agate]

naah, Romans would've never banned G*Y, they had load of steamy homo sex. @dapper laurel can tell you all about it

[thorny steeple]

Well that's true

[dapper laurel]

Yes, I was in Pompeii once and they had a completely different culture of homosexuality than the modern Western one. Literally there were penises at the entrance of the ancient shops because it represented luck and prosperity

They, a bit like the Greeks, thought that homosexual love was on a higher level than heterosexual love, their society was strongly misogyny

Then Christianity made these things taboo

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

[dapper laurel]

Honestly, I will never understand how Christianity has changed centuries of this helleno-roman culture so profoundly

[thorny steeple]

And made it extinct eh

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, almost

[feral river]

The correct one was: Tian shang tai yang hong ya hong tong tong ei, xin zhong de tai yang shi Mao zedong ei

天上太阳红呀红彤彤诶，心中的太阳是毛泽东诶

[thorny steeple]

Meaning?

[feral river]

the sun on the sky is damn damn red eh, the sun in the heart is Mao zedong eh

[thorny steeple]

The sun is the sun

[bronze bobcat]

I would say the sun is white but whatever our north-eastern neighbors prefer

[void arch]

its weird how ppl's adoption of morality and socially known as Good or bad thing is shaped and changing toward the worst.

[dense agate]

yea, it was a symbol of masculinity

[dense agate]

priests didn't want others competing with them i guess

[dapper laurel]

Right, paedophilia was very widespread in classical times

[dense agate]

not just classical times

[feral river]

Cuz the people thinks the moral seriously got ass kicked lol

Quite simple

Their freaking dream of using moral to rule people, collapsed

[void arch]

In ancient Rome, same-sex relationships were relatively common, especially among men. Roman society was patriarchal, and masculinity was associated with dominance. Roman men could engage in sexual activities with other males without losing their social status, as long as they took the dominant role. Acceptable partners were often slaves, former slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers. However, relationships between freeborn male minors and adult men were generally off-limits.

[dense agate]

buut.. buuut... love always wins :3

[feral river]

How can’t I say the tanks on the road wasn’t a type of love ❤️

[dense agate]

you can kindly ask them to stop like this guy :)

[dense agate]

Rome was built on the backs of g*y soldiers 💪

[dapper laurel]

My ancestors were based ofc

[dense agate]

you got to keep their culture going

[dapper laurel]

The only mistake they made was to grant Roman citizenship to the subjugated peoples

[dapper laurel]

Ofc 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[dense agate]

lel

[void arch]

its not about the acceptance , its about the truth ,and noble human admire the truth. its about the type of human of today that has no values no noble principles to admire the truth

[dense agate]

divine intervention

[dapper laurel]

It's a message from God

It's a sign

[thorny steeple]

Lmao that's auto block

[void arch]

pedoph was commonly practiced toward slaves

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[void arch]

being toward free born was seen as bad thing

double standards

[formal pilot]

Thanks for correction, I missed the second line lol

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/julius-caesar-hbo-rome-roman-empire-gif-18340881

[formal pilot]

Bashar al Khara

[dense agate]

Bashar Al-Divorce, no country and no wife

[dapper laurel]

It's so over, but, at the same time, nothing ever happens

[void arch]

and also homosexuality was a symbol of dominance and masculinity so the dominance men enslave the weaker by making him his WIFE

[thorny steeple]

Assyrian end of the world

[dense agate]

someone has been spending time on 4chan again

[dense agate]

so having homosexual sex is actually just having good ol' straight sex, since the bottom one will always play the role of the wife

[dapper laurel]

Yep, it's so over for muh

All those memes about Assad

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/bhibatsam-fire-cracker-funny-epic-fail-cracker-instead-of-lighter-gif-27421603

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/dakimakura-granny-slapping-russia-gif-24527798

[dense agate]

me on mondays fr

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-brother-bilo-bilo-my-honest-reaction-funny-bosnov-gif-14149984189938310003

[dapper laurel]

That's me yesterday

[void arch]

nice justification ,but that's disgusting ,back warding and immoral, and finally I adopt my morality from God ..

[dapper laurel]

Double standards morality

[void arch]

where?

[void arch]

just to be more specific Homosex in that time was like a symbol of Dominance and denigratory treatment towards weak men and slaves in a world of chaos and savage.. which is true therefore homsexuality is an insult toward the Man.

[thorny steeple]

How're you man, roma Invicta!

[dapper laurel]

Roma semper invicta est

Life couldn't be better

What about you?

[thorny steeple]

Truly so, barracks emperors

[thorny steeple]

Being good new year

[thorny steeple]

The principate

[manic juniper]

I also adopt my morality from this god
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu'er_Shen

[feral river]

What kind of truth are you talking about

Marxism truth theories ?

Or some other rhetoric piece of shit

And why you think the truth matters more than the interests ?

I can tell a bunch of lie as truth for my own interest that I can apply that on everyone which you cannot proof their innocence

And all of those based on one single simple truth, which is do not listen to some random words, do see what they have done.

[thorny steeple]

💀

[feral river]

And the second one would explain everything

Repeating the same rhetoric to the people never works

Regardless of your ideology

You gonna proof how your god or your truth is capable to fit the interests of the people or the bureaucracies that works lol

Not by words, but by your act

Westerners uses their democratic rule of law system to establish their legitimacy

Chinese uses our super efficient official management system to establish our legitimacy

Nazis uses racism, hate, war against the enemies of them which impose numerous unequal treaties to their country to establish their legitimacy

Soviets uses chauvinism, their absolute power and authority to fear the people who dare to challenge them to establish their legitimacy

And, I didn’t see how you guys are so successful to use religion to combat with modern ideologies

Only few terrorist groups like Taliban, controlling the afghanistan, Hamas controlling some part of gaza strip, isis controlling some random land in africa and middle east

What else ?

Even hamas and taliban are using some term of nationalism to try to be normalized

And every system has its flawed area, westerners can work but not so efficient

Our’s may cause some serious consequences if the leader made a mistake that whole thing will do wrong in entire country

There’s no perfect ideology and system.

[thorny steeple]

Everyday you wake up and hear many children and women get killed or ra*ped in Palestine and you still continue your day like nothing happened, and you come here and only mention that hamas is a terrorist group but you didn't mention Israel why is that? although they killed more than 40,000 thousand as of today. You are just copying what you've been told, you are brainwashed, if Israel continues killing people then ofc groups like hamas will appear it's called self defense you idiot!

[stoic cedar]

You call them terrorists but there are people who call them resistance forces

By the way who decides which organisation is a terrorist group?

If the US declares those organisations are not terrorist organisations, allies of US will do the same and the whole world will start believing it

You won't get it until you suffer maybe

[manic juniper]

Love reading these detailed historical breakdowns from our lord and saviour Minecraft_652

[void arch]

the difference is ur God is fake bcz ur consept of God contradict the definition of God in that context God is not limited by gender and he is uniquely one ,moreover ur God has no evidence that prove his revelation, in the contrary mine and also ours is the objective truth summarized in the revelation Quran .

[manic juniper]

Since when is that the definition of god? Hilarious

"Your definition of horse contradicts mine, because horses have balls and your horse doesn't. Your horse is fake, my horse is true."

[thorny steeple]

Comparing god to a horse aghhhgghhhhh

[manic juniper]

Yes? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epona

[void arch]

its called logic ,which u seem dont have

[thorny steeple]

Your point?

[manic juniper]

Your logic "I don't know who created this TV. Must've been God"

[void arch]

do u know the law of no contradiction , in other words saying God is gender limited means he need to reproduce, therefore he is not eternal, he is not self sufficient, meaning he is not God

[manic juniper]

Truly infallible logic

[thorny steeple]

God created the one who made the TV, because god created the universe 🤯

[manic juniper]

Who said god is gender limited? That god just takes the avatar of a man, it's a way to manifest his power

[thorny steeple]

Think wider

[void arch]

who said God is gender limited

[manic juniper]

That's the opposite of thinking wider, you're reducing every explanation to "god did it"

[void arch]

??

[manic juniper]

But he's not...? He's simply the patron of love between men

[thorny steeple]

If you don't believe that your god created everything then what kind of god is that?

[void arch]

ridiculousness

[manic juniper]

One that doesn't create...? There are other gods to fulfill that role, Kukulkan is the creator of the world, not the leveret

[void arch]

when us believe ur God dies what kind of God is that

[manic juniper]

One that isn't limited? If your god cannot die then he isn't omnipotent by definition, because he cannot do everything

[void arch]

when ur God encourage immorality , what kind of God is that

[manic juniper]

If a god is able to die then he isn't limited in power

[thorny steeple]

What's your definition of God

[void arch]

u need some lessons about philosophy of religion

[void arch]

if God can dies , means he is not eternal or self sufficient, therefore he is not God

God is not a contradiction

[manic juniper]

A powerful otherwordly being that cannot be understood using mortal logic and nature

[manic juniper]

Lmfao what kind of god can't do paradoxical tasks? That sounds like a human to me

[thorny steeple]

Then If there are many gods, the the question of who came first or who is stronger will appear and that makes other gods not absolute beings, therefore can we still call them gods if they are not absolute?

[manic juniper]

A god limited by the laws of our universe, that's pathetic. I'm god then since I am limited as well

[manic juniper]

That's easy to answer, Kukulkan did

Yes they can be god because they're still otherworldly and powerful

[thorny steeple]

What kind of god can't create? Your double standard is crazy

[void arch]

ur making an excuse in the wrong side , bcz this side of God is should be logically accurate bcz that what make something is God , but we cannot know his nature , but we know for sure he is not a contradiction

[manic juniper]

?? Who said it cannot create, it just didn't create everything

Think wider dude

[manic juniper]

Using logic for a being that isn't supposed to respect mortal logic is peak arrogance, do you think you can define the features of a god? Think again

[thorny steeple]

which god came first

[manic juniper]

Kukulkan did, I already stated it

The soul of all reptiles

It is not limited by number or quantities

[quasi needle]

??? have you never heard of greek, roman or egyptian gods

[thorny steeple]

How did other gods come, did kulkan create them?

[void arch]

if God is paradoxical his creations should be flawfull which is not

[thorny steeple]

Why would I? I don't have a doubt in my religion

[manic juniper]

I have no idea, I can't pretend to know Kukulkan's intentions or actions, I guess that since it is respectful like most reptiles it left them free to turn into deities, or subjected them to apotheosis

[quasi needle]

is it a bad thing to be educated

[thorny steeple]

But you guys learn about Islam

[void arch]

just looking to the universe u can do that

[thorny steeple]

🤣

[manic juniper]

Again putting an arbitrary limitation on a supernatural being

[quasi needle]

???

[manic juniper]

Fucking ridiculous

[void arch]

@manic juniper simply the world is not a contradiction therefore God is not

[quasi needle]

learning about islam isn’t questioning my belief. it’s called being educated

[manic juniper]

Then according to my definition god cannot turn into a stone because it's disrespectful or something

[thorny steeple]

Seems to me that u don't wanna think about it.

[manic juniper]

"My God does nothing at all, every single time, but he's omnipotent bro trust me"

That's a slumbering god

Let's pay people to do nothing and sleep

[void arch]

its not limitations its a weakness

when u say God can die

[manic juniper]

I did, but I just admit that I cannot try and think about it since it's out of our grasp

[manic juniper]

It's not, if you're able to die and you survive that's not a weakness

Osiris died yet he survived

[void arch]

how can the creation be his creation can u be ur sandwich that u make

[thorny steeple]

It's not actually, if kulkan came first then that means he's better than other gods, he created other gods then are other gods gods ? Or creations of kulkan?

[manic juniper]

Maybe because there are more than one...? The other deities didn't create the universe, simple as that

[thorny steeple]

Or did other gods come out of the blue lol

[void arch]

ok ,let me ask u when u die and survive , are u eternal then are u self-sufficient then?????

[manic juniper]

Nope it just means that it was very punctual or early, I'm born before the bear out of my house, doesn't make me more powerful than the bear

But yeah Kukulkan happens to be the first(s) and the most powerful

Because it's a reptile

[thorny steeple]

Again comparing god with humans and animals

[void arch]

hahah , its ilogical to be more than one eternal all-powerful will

[void arch]

the point u die ur not God anymore

[manic juniper]

Being self sufficient is subjective, humans are too. You're trying to say that god is supposed to be made of divine qwarks

[thorny steeple]

So reptiles existed before the creation of earth and the universe?

[quasi needle]

Gaia, the Earth and Uranus, the Sky, had 12 children. These were the Titans, the pre-Olympian Gods. Cronus and Rhea had six children, the first generation of the Olympians, most notably Zeus. Cronus began to become power hungry and took power from his father, Uranus. Zeus waged war against the Titans in what was called the Titonomachy and took over. The Titans were banished from the upper world as a result as the Olympians became the Gods.

Mythology has no bounds

[manic juniper]

Am I supposed to compare it to things that I cannot understand? At least I'm consistent and I don't try to give it qualities

[void arch]

humans are not self sufficient, we depend on a lot of thing to be the way we are , a lot of things shape our nature

[manic juniper]

Yes their souls did, they're the only souls that exist on the spiritual plane. Other living beings simply die instead

[quasi needle]

using this logic nothing is self sufficient

[thorny steeple]

You don't need to compare god with anything because he made everything, get it?

[quasi needle]

take away the sun and nothing is self sufficient

[void arch]

God cannot be made of parts

[manic juniper]

How can I assume that, maybe it didn't