🧠｜serious-chat

[shy summit]

By law he can’t

[manic juniper]

He's literally ⅐ of LGBT

[shy summit]

It’d require changing the constitution

[unreal kraken]

Yes but seeing the angry reaction of public rightnow and also the sabotage exhibition, i think there's still a hope to us to against the governor. I think we should stronger our activism digital consolidation to make a big impact

[manic juniper]

They'd have to remove the orange from the rainbow flag

[rose eagle]

I like orange juice

[grizzled quest]

Yep you're right! there's still a little bit of hope

[shy summit]

We out here doing the holy work of spreading and clapping the cheeks of predatory political assholes

[feral river]

Trump is an alleged racist, from his previous cases.

[shy summit]

More than alleged

Civilly adjudicated

Confirmed in a civil court of law

Multiple actually

[rose eagle]

i remember him called covid 19 the china virus which led to more discrimination against other asians in america

[shy summit]

Bro he called it the Kung Flu

[feral river]

I remember there was a case of Trump's business do not rent hostels to black families, and case dismissed because trump fight back by suing it back

[manic juniper]

Kung Flu, ngl that was funny at least

[shy summit]

That’s how he first got popular

[feral river]

well that's racism

[grizzled quest]

LMAO

[feral river]

sorry can't deny a little bit

[rose eagle]

Yea

[feral river]

😭

[lime cobalt]

maybe he forget the line,, joking !!!

[shy summit]

No shit he called Mexicans Rapists, Murderers and Gangsters

[feral river]

haitis immigrants eating dogs and cats in that community ?

[shy summit]

Yet another lie

[quasi needle]

That wasn’t disproven

[feral river]

I still remember that shit

[quasi needle]

Multiple firsthand reports of dogs missing

[shy summit]

That actually was disproven owen

[quasi needle]

Found dead!

[shy summit]

The lady who first propagated the story admitted she lied

[lime cobalt]

but he got elected, then the oponnent is worst than him ?

[feral river]

trump working in the mcdonalds

[shy summit]

Turns out the cat was missing, and turned up some time after her original post

[rose eagle]

I thought eating dogs and cats was normal for you chinese?

[feral river]

trump dancing with girls, sexing them in trump tower

[rose eagle]

🐧

[feral river]

well a lot of cases btw

[shy summit]

No people are just thermostatically opinionated

[feral river]

ah we don't specifically eat cats but dogs yeah

dogs are delicious

[shy summit]

Pls no

Not here

[rose eagle]

Yea

[rose eagle]

i have eaten it

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/picard-facepalm-oh-no-oh-hell-no-no-gif-10723914200679373178

[feral river]

that's illegal in the US

[shy summit]

You guys aren’t helping

[lime cobalt]

thats why democracy is bullshit

[feral river]

to eat dogs

[manic juniper]

Asian unity

[shy summit]

No it just means that democracy only works when the public is educated and informed

[formal pilot]

Chad Brics

[feral river]

baby you realized THAT!!!!

[rose eagle]

Fact: In Vietnam, cat meat is also called "little tiger"

[manic juniper]

That's unfair

[feral river]

PRIASE OUR GREATEST LEADERSHIP UNDER AUTHORITARIAN RULE

[shy summit]

Bro we done been knowing that since the 1700’s

Why do you think we spend so much on trying to improve education?

[feral river]

well we don't need education, we just need people to follow the rule and order

and let elites get educated to rule the country

[formal pilot]

So you guys can sell student loans

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/picard-facepalm-oh-no-oh-hell-no-no-gif-10723914200679373178

[feral river]

that's all fucking enough

[rose eagle]

Hmm??????

[feral river]

and we have a family has 99 million people runs the country following the leader's command

[feral river]

dude you just reminded me how fucking advance this system really is

even it's repressive for some people

[rose eagle]

Why does this feel like what Pol Pot did in the past?

[rose eagle]

Shoet

[feral river]

shhush

[shy summit]

I mean if you wanna fix the american system here’s the first thing you can do

Reverse Citizens United

[unreal kraken]

but educated elites doesn't mean they will doing a good stuff, everyone need the education to control the government when they're doing bad

[shy summit]

True

[formal pilot]

What is it?

[feral river]

they can't be educated, it's expensive, lack of stability, and you may lost control of the state power

[lime cobalt]

The scenario is that the government deliberately creates a bad situation to make it easier to manipulate and mobilize the people

[shy summit]

It opened the floodgates to rich fucks pouring money into the political system

It made the right far more polarized

[feral river]

let them work for the state, and we share benefits

[shy summit]

Sir excuse me the fuck not

No

Nuh uh

Enough

Nope

[feral river]

well sorry, educate them in our way is the best choice

[unreal kraken]

that's why we need a middle class people power to do that, to give the pressure to the government

[lime cobalt]

"Death solves all problems—no man, no problem." stallin

[shy summit]

Don’t make me spam you with gay shit Mine

[lime cobalt]

sorry bad jokes

[shy summit]

I will unleash my rainbow beam

[feral river]

that's why they are required to have a course in every university in China called marxist theories, and Xi jinping thought

I even have that course but that's quite easy for me

[shy summit]

Don’t mind me guys I’m queing up all the gay memes for Minecraft

[feral river]

dude I can understand that but that's our system, that's how it works.

and I can't really against the system

[shy summit]

Gayzer beam

[feral river]

I even have to be in the system

because I'm a Chinese, with a nationality of China

if I want to continue to enjoy my middle class life

I have to work for them to well... educate people in that way.

and I even suffer from that.

but yeah I have to do taht

unfortunately

[shy summit]

Trump Admin Employee’s realization that this idiot thinks the reason the North won the Civil war was because of Airplanes.

[feral river]

I rather not to risk my life to do that

[manic juniper]

Is it true that he said "USA and Italy have been allies since Roman times" or something like that

[shy summit]

This

[manic juniper]

No way he said this for real, it's too much even for Trump

[shy summit]

He actually said this

[feral river]

I already suffered from that system and I did successfully pass it, I know my kid may suffer from that so I won't left my kid in Chinese education system

[shy summit]

He literally said this

[feral river]

Chinese education system is pure brainwashing

[manic juniper]

I imagine emperor Octavian establishing a treaty with a random Cherokee shaman

[feral river]

and you have to follow the order, over and over again

[shy summit]

Admitting it is the first step

Baby steps

[feral river]

dude I grow up from that system, I know it better than everyone else

[tribal flame]

hey who is good at the chess?

[lime cobalt]

oh, can u tell me what they tell u about western, capitalist someting like that ?

[feral river]

that's one of the darkest time in my life I even considered to commit suicide at that time

[lime cobalt]

im not spy

[feral river]

but thankfully I passed that

[unreal kraken]

i see, that's understandable and it's your choice. but still the middle class actually have a big big power

[feral river]

you don't really have much source to know what's going on in the western society but they will tell you in multiple ways for example in our book you will see we teach how american political system works, separation of state power

legislation, jurisdiction and executive power

congress, president power etc. and they will tell you this system is flawed

[manic juniper]

Estonian education too is abusive af

[feral river]

and our Chinese great system of whole process democracy is the true democracy and our path to ultimately achieve communism in Chinese characteristics in the best way for us

under the leadership of Xi jinping

[lime cobalt]

thats it ?? sound undangerous

and not brainwashed

[feral river]

yeah they test it, and you may suffer from repeating that because this was just one chapter, there was couple of books of it

[lime cobalt]

"learn you enemys kiddos "

[feral river]

contains different information that favors party's position in comprises of fields of history, politics, dailylife, etc.

[lime cobalt]

joking

[unreal kraken]

i wanna know what kind of democracy that china running right know? can you explain?

[feral river]

ahh there's no democracy in China

we are kinda under an authoritarian rule

every political movement is prohibited

[unreal kraken]

i see, as a civil what do you feel about that?

[lime cobalt]

but even authorian rule have a good goal for citizen right ?

[unreal kraken]

cause my country was in that authoritarian situation back then

and it's so fuckedup

[feral river]

well I don't think democracy = prosperity, and it never was, I don't really care if the government are trying to use the system to exploit people like me because they are exploiting people for all the time but mostly lower class people, minorities and prisoners

therefore, they are in the position of favoring my status, I would like to defend this system because I benefit from that

even not, I have to defend the system for a better life

[feral river]

yeah, government improves our condition of living drastically recent years

[lime cobalt]

thats line make democray peeps jeolous

lol

[feral river]

and they have that pricinple of "put the people in the first place" well I don't believe that shit but they are not screwing something up till now

so I wouldn't be seemingly ominous to them

[lime cobalt]

sometime i cant differentiate monarch absolute and authoriratian, feels the same

only there is a king, and not

[lime cobalt]

mussolini once is hitler besty

even hitler an stalin have cute love story, they still a human

have a love in their heart

tragic\

[feral river]

don't compare that damn evil shit to the controversial legendary leader who lead a poor country to an economic and military superpower

[lime cobalt]

which one ?

hitler or stalin ?

[feral river]

now you know who it is

[lime cobalt]

wait im confused, once east german is also comunist

why u hate hitler ?

[lime cobalt]

can u tell me more ?

[whole beacon]

Hi

[quasi needle]

stalin killed more

[dapper laurel]

The only thing Mussolini wanted was glory, then he despised Hitler

They had two ways of doing politics and different ideologies, Mussolini was just an opportunist

[open plover]

Oh no! That is not acceptible

So undesirable

[lunar ivy]

if china didn't shift from communism, its dead end

[lunar ivy]

reminds me of this

[open plover]

Venezuela is the most corrupt country in the world actually

[open apex]

Hhhhhh

[feral river]

Weird point

Is the body count a standard of yours to evaluate a leader

Oh yeah he may indirectly or directly caused mass deaths, so you gonna blame him for all of those mistakes blindly and ignore everything he have done for his country

I never said he’s not responsible for dead of millions of people, but don’t use that shit as standard to say everything is wrong with him

It was just as stupid as you didn’t got your bingo and blame for god

[quasi needle]

yea lets call hitler evil and not the guy that killed millions MORE

i dont care what he did for his country, hes still evil

[feral river]

Wym ? Hitler lose the war ofc he’s evil

[quasi needle]

???

[feral river]

Stalin did win the war

[quasi needle]

im not even gonna bother

[feral river]

With americans against Nazis

[quasi needle]

stalin also joined hitler as long as it convenienced him

[open plover]

Hitler was evil undoubtedly💥

[feral river]

Joined hitler ? The team axis ? Even once ?

[open plover]

Another tyrant

[quasi needle]

What

[feral river]

Have you remember who entered berlin in the first place ?

[quasi needle]

Yes. He was with hitler until hitler attacked him

[feral river]

You mean Soviet Union is in the Axis before Hitler attack them ?

Dude your statement came out of nowhere

[quasi needle]

..?

He swapped sides that’s why he won

[feral river]

What

Are you out of your mind ?

[quasi needle]

HE WAS ALLIED WITH HITLER!

[feral river]

Oh crap

[quasi needle]

the molotov ribbentrop pact

they agreed a 10 year alliance pact that Hitler violated

that’s why he swapped

[feral river]

10 year alliance pact oh shit dude

How a 10 year alliance pact

Please demonstrate it

[quasi needle]

why do you seem so attacked

Demonstrate what

[feral river]

Because you are talking shit out of nowhere

I thought you won’t be like that

[quasi needle]

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-soviet-pact#:~:text=This agreement is commonly referred,or the Hitler-Stalin Pact.&text=The arrangement included a 10,Germany and the Soviet Union.

[feral river]

But i was wrong

[quasi needle]

Can you read this

Do you know what it means

[feral river]

Dude i know that 10 years before but Soviet Union has never aligned with Germany under an alliance

[quasi needle]

The USSR was allied with Germany for the invasion of Poland and the start of WWII, when Germany was running short after the Battle of Britain, he invaded the USSR as a last resort. Because of this, Stalin formed the Great Alliance with the US and UK

Only then did he joined the Allies

[feral river]

And even Soviet with Germans signed that pact and annexed poland together, they did not cooperate in the war on allies

[quasi needle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

[feral river]

I know that shit 10 years before

[quasi needle]

A 10 year non aggression and economic cooperation pact

[feral river]

Oh we have that economic cooperation pact with US

Does that make us allies ?

[quasi needle]

Yes, but it’s the pact immediately before their JOINT invasion

[feral river]

Dude what the fuck you are talking about

Don’t act like a stupid please

[quasi needle]

Why are you so aggressive

They signed this pact before they both invaded Poland

[feral river]

Because you are talking shit out of nowhere

[quasi needle]

THEY WERE BOTH IN ON IT

[feral river]

You claimed they are allies, they are not

[quasi needle]

Under the Secret Protocol, Poland was to be shared, while Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland and Bessarabia went to the Soviet Union. The protocol also recognized the interest of Lithuania in the Vilnius region. In the west, rumoured existence of the Secret Protocol was proven only when it was made public during the Nuremberg trials.

[void arch]

Minecraft is a pure symbol of arrogant ignorant person

[feral river]

So what ? Does that make them allies ?

[quasi needle]

Yep

[feral river]

You are pure symbol of a stupid guy don’t know anything go insult everyone and shit on your fucking ground over here

[quasi needle]

Can’t read

Grow up and read a history book

[feral river]

I’m not gonna say you are stupid

But read that shit yourself and proof your point

[quasi needle]

Sometime in early May 1939 at Berghof, Ribbentrop showed Hitler a film of Stalin viewing his military in a recent parade. Hitler became intrigued with the idea of allying with the Soviets and Ribbentrop recalled Hitler saying that Stalin "looked like a man he could do business with". Ribbentrop was then given the nod to pursue negotiations with Moscow.

[feral river]

You were highly confused between “maintain relationships and establish cooperation” and “establish an alliance and fight together”

You were confused with the function of BRICKS and NATO

Dude that was fucked and stupid

[quasi needle]

You are highly confused about what invading Poland together and distributing the land with each other means

[feral river]

They have a great relationship, got economic ties doesn’t make them allies

And they never have a pact which promises one side got attacked and the other side will help

[quasi needle]

So does anything you’ve said change my point? No

They were with each other. France and Britain had a defense pact with Poland

[void arch]

thats pact ment to maintain peace between the 2 nations

[quasi needle]

They invaded Poland, that violated the defense pact and triggered WWII

[void arch]

not military defense alliance

[quasi needle]

The only reason we didn’t go to war with the USSR in the end is because Hitler invaded the USSR and we all put eyes on him

[feral river]

So when the USA invaded Syria and Russia helps, they are in an alliance according to your logic

Oh then we are in a big alliances, because we fight against terrorism together

[quasi needle]

No because they had different goals

[feral river]

Oh damn that’s your logic we are alliances

[quasi needle]

The US rebels were uprooting the government

Russia directly supported the government

Bit different bud

[void arch]

mincraft what is this ??

[feral river]

Now you are saying they had different goals then prove they don’t have different goals

Dude that logic was so fucked

[quasi needle]

What

The North Eastern rebels are directly US backed. Russia openly supported Assad.

[feral river]

Non-aggression pact

[quasi needle]

It’s pretty out there

[feral river]

What you are talking about ?

[quasi needle]

I can prove they had different goals

Russia wanted to keep Assad, the US did not

Read my above messages

[feral river]

You just said they are not in an alliances because they have different goals

[quasi needle]

Different forces with different goals

[void arch]

so why still u arguing ?

[feral river]

And now you said you can proof they have it

What makes you think that Soviet Union and Germans have a same goal ?

They are completely different

[void arch]

Russia joined in Syria just to power its existence in the region

[feral river]

Have you ever seen Soviets messing around with allies ?

[quasi needle]

No. I’d say if they had a non aggression, economic and political cooperative pact before they conduct secret meetings about the joint invasion of Syria whereafter they split the land they invaded to each other, while also discussing the land of the Middle East to be distributed to one another, I’d consider them de facto allies. Because common sense dictates.

[feral river]

Yeah it explains everything, that stupid common sense dictates

[quasi needle]

Ok

[feral river]

Now it’s done because you are not debating, you are spreading ideological propaganda

[quasi needle]

Good talking I’m going back to dinner

https://tenor.com/view/wall-talking-gif-10919304

[lime cobalt]

It's only short alliance , Molotov pact demonstrated how short-term strategic interests could bring together two ideologically opposed regimes (fascism and communism) into a temporary alliance.

[lime cobalt]

democracy is weak because it prioritizes individual freedom, which leads to chaos, imbalance, and the potential rise of tyranny. Plato argued that a better system is aristocracy, where wise and knowledgeable leaders rule with justice.

[lime cobalt]

there's is no perfect system in imperfect world, there are always complaining and complaining -Joker

"Death solves all problems—no man, no problem."Joseph Stalin

[lime cobalt]

Athenian democracy was revolutionary in granting direct political power to citizens, but it was far from inclusive. Women, slaves, and non-citizens were systematically excluded, meaning only a small fraction of the population could truly exercise democratic rights.

Democracy aims to create an inclusive, fair, and participatory government, where power derives from the people and serves the common good. However, challenges such as majority manipulation or populism can hinder its ideal outcomes, making its full realization difficult.

[gaunt bronze]

Uhmmm

[manic juniper]

Why would anyone let non-citizens vote

Imagine if I could vote in the Greenlandic elections

[frozen cape]

citizens of Commonwealth countries can vote in the UK as long as we're currently legally residing in there
foreign citizens with a permanent resident visa in NZ can also vote in the local elections

[manic juniper]

At least they are citizens of something

[brittle geode]

oh

oh no

oh god

@thorny steeple

[lime cobalt]

Did you know the worst human rights violation in the world? One of it occurs in indonesia

The PKI massacre, also known as the 1965-1966 anti-communist purge in Indonesia, involved the mass killing of suspected communists and their sympathizers. Following a failed coup attempt, the Indonesian military and civilian militias executed an estimated 500,000 to 1 million people. The violence was fueled by political and ideological conflicts, and it led to widespread human rights abuses, including torture and extrajudicial killings. This event is considered horrific because it involved large-scale, state-sanctioned violence, targeted persecution based on political beliefs, and the destruction of countless innocent lives.

And I sense anti-atheism, that's why I hate religion.

[quasi needle]

Forget that I read it entirely wrong

Nvm I did read it right

It is an atrocity, but it is not THE worst. Because the Holocaust unfortunately had 11 million people slaughtered

[lime cobalt]

It's related to me because I'm living in it

[quasi needle]

Ask california

[quasi needle]

My condolences. Btw I know nothing about Indonesia in 2024, is it bad?

[lime cobalt]

It's dark history of our country, it's impact on the future of the country.
And even talking about Marxisme is banned

It's written on the law

[quasi needle]

Dang

[manic juniper]

Is this true?

[lime cobalt]

Imagine six generals are killed, and there is no strong evidence to prove that the perpetrators were the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI), but the scenario is set up in such a way that it appears the Communist Party was responsible.

[lime cobalt]

Where u get that meme

[manic juniper]

Asia_irl

[lime cobalt]

Absolutely right

Is it related to genocide communist party?

[manic juniper]

I don't think that's a genocide, since it's about political alignment, it's political persecution

After our civil war many high ranking communists fled to the USSR to avoid persecution from the republicans and monarchists

Only to get imprisoned in the USSR with the accusation of "nationalism"

[quasi needle]

When I’m in a supporting human atrocities competition and my opponent is american or british

[lime cobalt]

There is a conspiracy theory that suggests the involvement of the United States here, aiming to prevent the spread of communism and the increase in its supporters.

[quasi needle]

Just read up and apparently the SIS (British intelligence) supported that genocide

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741945274901200897/1048740789309673674/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-07-15T183109.613.gif?width=17&height=466

[lime cobalt]

I agree with Karl Marx's quote that religion is the opium of the people, because it suggests that religion can act as a tool to distract and pacify the masses, preventing them from recognizing their true social and economic conditions. In this view, religion provides temporary comfort, but it also discourages critical thinking and the pursuit of social change, ultimately helping to maintain the status quo.

Especially for poor country

[quasi needle]

THIS!!!! THIS THIS THIS!!! EXACTLY THIS!!!!

This is why I will never give religion a chance

Fallacious scriptures were used and still are in some cases to control the populous. State religions have historically always been for the rulers to exert control

It begs it’s followers to disregard empirical thought

It leads its followers down a path of questionless belief

[lime cobalt]

And what’s worse, those who carried out the mass persecution were some followers of religion, which is very ironic.

What kind of religion is that 😂🤣😂

[quasi needle]

Ironically it’s always the “God first ✝️” people that are extremely rude on social media

[lime cobalt]

That's why banning Marxism in my country is very absurd; there are even parts of it that could be beneficial if applied.

We don’t always have to be strict; modifying an ideology is not a problem either.

[lime cobalt]

@quasi needle never debate to them, it's abolutely ridiculous

Their argument is nonsense

[quasi needle]

True

If they won’t believe science, which is literally based of proof, they’ll believe nothing I say

[lime cobalt]

You can ask them paradoxical questions, it will make them question their religion, but they won't admit they are wrong, they will get angry.

Absolutely ridiculous 🤣😮🤣

Never ending story

If God knows His followers are being massacred, why does He remain silent? Is He not Misericors Omnipotens, the Omniscient, and the Omnipotens?

And baam, is he existed ?

[rose eagle]

why do you sleep so late

[vagrant crescent]

@manic juniper hi

[thorny steeple]

How come 65% of all Nobel winners are Christian? Or why do we have Georges Lemaitre, James Hutton, Blaise Pascal, Gregor Mendel, Isaac Newton and many others on our side?

[thorny steeple]

Interesting eh

[gaunt bronze]

Science and God 🫶🏻

[thorny steeple]

And Quebec

[gaunt bronze]

NO !

[thorny steeple]

The Catholic Church is the patron of all sciences, it built the Universities Bologna, Oxford and Salamanca, the first ones to operate in Europe

[thorny steeple]

True

Also Descartes and R. Bacon, fathers of the scientific methos, were... Catholic

[thorny steeple]

You believe in God fr?

[gaunt bronze]

OFC

Im christian

[thorny steeple]

Catholicism spotted

[thorny steeple]

She's Anglo-Canadian, I don't think so

[thorny steeple]

Then Presbyterian?

[gaunt bronze]

Erm what-

I'm Catholic

[thorny steeple]

Alright cool

[gaunt bronze]

its rlly ironic because my mom's side (not my mom) is protestant 🤐

[thorny steeple]

Well that's a divided household

[gaunt bronze]

ikr

but we rarely ever mention it

[thorny steeple]

So taboo eh

Ye

[native mango]

[thorny steeple]

sup

[thorny steeple]

Mustafa

@manic juniper are the Baltics Livonia?

[manic juniper]

Only Latvia and Estonia were called Livonia but it's a misnomer

If Livonia was the actual region where Livonians lived then it'd be very small

[thorny steeple]

Are the Livonians alive or extinct?

[manic juniper]

They exist but less than 10 people are native speakers of the language, they're like the Irish but even more colonised in that sense

Way more than those identify as Livonians

They speak Latvian or Latgalian

[thorny steeple]

Latgalian? Isn't that the name of a tribe?

[thorny steeple]

Interesting Irish situation but extreme

[manic juniper]

Yes

It's also a variant of Latvian, or Latvian is a variant of Latgalian

[thorny steeple]

Interesting so a language and a tribe

[thorny steeple]

Alright, could have Bavaria instead of Prussia formed Germany

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel how are you man.

[lost sierra]

meow

[feral river]

Now im in China guys have to turn on my vpn again

🇨🇳

[balmy folio]

Hi

[balmy folio]

China is great country

they control everything

[toxic loom]

where are you from

[balmy folio]

Pakistan

[balmy folio]

What about you?

[toxic loom]

china bro

I want to know what Pakistanis think of China.

haha

[balmy folio]

Not so bad repute

[toxic loom]

ok

[balmy folio]

What do you think about us?

[toxic loom]

it's brother

[balmy folio]

mhmm?

[toxic loom]

what's mean

[balmy folio]

What does chinese think about us?

[toxic loom]

i say like brother

Most people think it

[balmy folio]

oh ok

[toxic loom]

M3

[cursive bobcat]

You have been successfully moved to #852809796738351144

[feral river]

Pakistan ?

We need you guys to fight against India

And your strategic position

[cinder quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965263488178069567/1306559677135585280/qIFw2xe3.gif

[dapper laurel]

They got nukes too

But India has manpower

They can train a lot of divisions

[tight phoenix]

They can't their system is corrupt!

Education is fucked up

[wintry pond]

Hello

[fleet dragon]

Hello

What you guys can say is the best option for me to improve my vocabulary?

[quasi needle]

Correlation is not causation

Isaac newtons belief had no play in his discoveries

Let’s not be pedantic

[thorny steeple]

You stated that Christians don't believe in science 🤷‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

Not true.

[quasi needle]

it asks them to adopt a belief with questionless undoubt

I could ask why the countries with the highest ranked education and average IQ are ones with the lowest religious rates

(Nordic)

[thorny steeple]

Education is fucked up due to caste-based reservations, not due to lack of resources.
The army doesn't provide you with reservations and is very strict about it, so you can't question it.

[dapper laurel]

Since when can religion positively influence someone's intellectual abilities? In my opinion, the environment we live in plays a key role in our brain development, maybe an open society with a good school system and social policies can really make a difference. It is no coincidence that Christian countries have more scientists, simply European countries have been a little more secular than Muslim countries and religion didn't influence the minds of citizens in a significant way

[thorny steeple]

"Correlation is not causation"
moments later
Hmmm Nordic countries are high iq and not religous hmmm

[quasi needle]

Yes that’s why I said I COULD ask

But it’s because education does actually, through studies, lead directly towards a lesser belief in religion

🤷‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

This is due to utiliarian nature of the human beings, they start to drift apart from God when they have everything they need fulfilled, this is also what the media and the elites propose to the people

[quasi needle]

What do they propose

[dapper laurel]

Education doesn't play this role lol, it is society that leads us to consume more frivolous things and to pay less attention to religion

[quasi needle]

God is and always has been a filler in humanity’s constant need for knowledge

[thorny steeple]

The mainstream media and the elites want you to be an atheist

[quasi needle]

😛

Good

[thorny steeple]

Or to not be a Christian, to say the very least

[dapper laurel]

In today's capitalist societies people think they already have everything, they don't need to pray or have a religion, this has led to the fall of religions in the Western world

[quasi needle]

Why should anyone NEED to pray

[thorny steeple]

Just watch the Olympics opening ceremony. Or listen to what kanye West says about Hollywood contracts prohibiting people from talking about God

[quasi needle]

Because it’s past its heyday

Religion peaked when we knew the least

[crude widget]

I've heard mainstream media on both sides of this issue

[quasi needle]

It’s a means for people who want to have a reason behind life, or for people scared of death

[thorny steeple]

I didn't say it influences one's cognitive abilities, Georges Lamaitre itself said we shouldn't mix science and religion. I started it off stating that "religious people don't believe in science" is fallacious

[dapper laurel]

Maybe for a greater psychophysical well-being, but that's not my case, I don't have everything I need and life is full of problems, so I have to pray to have something to hope for, this doesn't affect personal initiative, of course

[quasi needle]

Please find me the message in which I said that

[dapper laurel]

Oh, thanks, I misunderstood then

[crude widget]

Yeah he never said that

[quasi needle]

I was referring to people I argued with in HERE about science

[thorny steeple]

This happens, as I said, due to the utiliarian nature of the human beings, they start thinking they don't need God when everything in their lifes is fulfilled

[quasi needle]

If you can find the “Christian’s don’t believe”

Instead of making up quotes

[thorny steeple]

What you're doing is arguing through correlations, something condemned by you in the first lines of the discussion

[crude widget]

Invictus, I think you completely misunderstood what Owen is saying

On more than one occasion

[thorny steeple]

This generation is way dumber than the last generations we had, surprisingly it is the most atheist, how can these two things be combined

[thorny steeple]

.

Really didn't

[quasi needle]

Are you this ignorant

[crude widget]

I don't see on what basis you can say this generation is dumber

[quasi needle]

^

Because if joker was talking to me about arguing with people, I will be drawn to my past experiences… with arguing with people

[lost sierra]

cat

[quasi needle]

2 and 2 goes together

[quasi needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865329221508923405/1312060952161812530/attachment.gif

[thorny steeple]

Oh sorry for this, I just read that message without the appropriate context

[quasi needle]

The study also concludes that, in the United States and other developed nations, "education raises religious attendance at individual level," while "at the same time, there is a strong negative connection between attendance and education across religious groups within the U.S. and elsewhere." The authors suggest that "this puzzle is explained if education both increases the returns to social connection and reduces the extent of religious belief," causing more educated individuals to sort into less fervent denominations.

Now such as top professors in the US are majority religious, it would be entirely fair to assume they’re not all staunch, word for word believers. Otherwise that would contradict their whole field of study

Either an astrophysicist believes the world has 4 corners or they believe it’s round. Only one would hold up in that job

[tight phoenix]

But for army u need money and for money u need a well developed economy.

[quasi needle]

Hence leading to the study conclusion that higher education leads to a less impassioned belief

[tight phoenix]

Lol, caste based reservation ? There is no reservation in corporates jobs . It's just in government jobs and university. 😄😂

[manic juniper]

Why is it justified to hate on atheists

[quasi needle]

Is it

I’ve only ever seen the most deluded of religious people not have respect for atheism

Because basically all religions have core principles of respecting others

[manic juniper]

They cry if atheists or people from other religions do the same

Iceland may join the EU by 2027, nice

[frozen cape]

omg nooooo

[quasi needle]

Science is the field of HOW
Religion is the field of WHY

Which is why religion will always be wrong. There is no why in life, there just is. Chemical reactions do not need a moral background and this scales up to the creation of the universe. Religion fills in the gaps of science and that is enough for people to go “yeah, that’s how it happened”.

Because a book told them God made the universe, God made it. But, because scientists don’t have concrete, empirical and total undeniable proof that the Big Bang happened, it didn’t happen.

Double standards are the peak of biases. One side will defend theirs till death, the other the same. One side has proof for ten million explanations, one side plugs the gaps of the other ten million it can’t explain with a book.

[manic juniper]

Is it because you're British

I thought they sorted the fishing rights with UK in 2009

[sterile goblet]

Science is mostly wrong, it works just because we agreed it's right also it's more about understanding and discovering things that already exist or happen

Religion is based on faith not logic or experimental things

[lime cobalt]

It is estimated that there are 4,300 religions throughout human history, and each of them has its own arguments to prove their religion is valid.

[dapper laurel]

How? Why?

[lime cobalt]

stop debating about religion

never ending story

[sterile goblet]

Faith is accepting something to be true even without concrete evidence or belief with no proof

[manic juniper]

In their most recent poll more people voted to join than against it

Greenland too may join in the future (based)

If Greenland joins the EU would get yet another non-Indo-European language in the Union

[dapper laurel]

It's exceptional🤩, usually ultra-developed countries avoid the Union

[sterile goblet]

That's why it's interesting

[manic juniper]

It has to do with the urban and rural divide of Nordic countries, not really the development level. We are more rural than Spain, Romania... That's why Sweden and Finland barely joined, while Norway and Iceland barely did NOT join

[thorny steeple]

Bruv, see the rankings of India's army. Bro thinks we don't have money to spend on the army

[dapper laurel]

I thought they were more aware of the economic repercussions of joining the EU

[thorny steeple]

I didn't talk about corporates. I'm talking about the government-funded education and the army.

Didn't ask.

[manic juniper]

They already follow most of the regulations and have most of the benefits. The biggest difference is that they'll have to follow EU laws now, since EU laws overrun national laws in most cases

[dapper laurel]

Imagine joining the Eurozone, it would be terrible for them, I think

[manic juniper]

Greenland left the European Economic Alliance in the 90s I think, because they didn't want to follow any regulation on fishing rights. Now they want to join for the increased trade benefits, even if it means sacrificing some of those rights

[dapper laurel]

I think that the Eurozone should be divided into micro monetary areas, the countries of the Eurozone have different interests and their economies were based on different use of money in the past

[manic juniper]

Honestly it would make little difference for some of them, Sweden could easily switch to the Euro, it's Denmark that wouldn't benefit as much from it

[thorny steeple]

You were the one to reply, I still didn't ask.

[manic juniper]

And obviously the poorest countries in the EU aren't likely to benefit right now

[thorny steeple]

yeah eu it's just good for the richest country

[dapper laurel]

As for Iceland, it is likely that they will also become contributors to the union, in economic terms

[manic juniper]

No, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania and Poland made huge leaps while in the EU and they receive plenty of funds

[manic juniper]

I guess they'll have a separate referendum on the adoption of the Euro. I have no idea about their feelings on that tbh Finland adopted it because we weren't too attached to it

Sweden and Denmark are

[thorny steeple]

yh but cause it couln't be worse then it was before tbh. Now they don't have a great time

[manic juniper]

Icelandic people are the Germanic version of Finns, they are strange and wacky people

[tight phoenix]

But government need money. Bro to fund army and money comes from tax

[manic juniper]

??? Support for the EU is huge in the Baltic countries, even in Latvia where the progresses are slower

[tight phoenix]

If u trust ranking then india performs poor than Bangladesh in global hunger index 😂 lol . So we can't trust rank

[dapper laurel]

Iceland is one of the few countries I would go to live in. It's cold, there's volcanic soil that is almost impossible to grow plants on, few hours of light, few people and a good economy, it's ideal

[thorny steeple]

Yes,so?

[thorny steeple]

We're talking about two different rankings done by two different bodies.

[tight phoenix]

If tax payers will inefficient than then it will affect the army .

[tight phoenix]

Both body can be incorrect. Why fail in Manipur?

[thorny steeple]

yes but also the youth goes away from their country leaving just elderly. There is a problem with newborns in those places

[manic juniper]

Now you changed your point completely... even if they stayed they wouldn't have many children, and now it's better because many immigrants still go back to their country or support their family from abroad

[quasi needle]

The EU should never have been a political union

[manic juniper]

I know plenty of young Poles or Romanians that went back to their home country because they earned enough money or because their economy got better

[quasi needle]

It was never made for that

[thorny steeple]

The number of taxpayers is increasing steadily so it's not a problem.

[tight phoenix]

Quality matters bro ;

[tight phoenix]

Why we can't take pok back ?

We have potential to be superpower but we can't because system is corrupt.

[dapper laurel]

No, it should in these times, Individual European countries alone are worth nothing compared to China, India or the US, a political EU is the last hope we have for the future

[tight phoenix]

China is 1000X better than us

[thorny steeple]

Bro, there's no connection between Manipur and the army Index. You're confusing domestic matters with International.

[quasi needle]

No it’s not

It’s a failed project

[manic juniper]

And they have waterfalls

[thorny steeple]

First of all ,we need larger population to pay taxes.

[dapper laurel]

No, we can still do it, if we do nothing, very difficult times will come for us

[thorny steeple]

That's a separate topic, nothing to do with our original topic.

[quasi needle]

Anyone that even for one second thinks a federalized or more centralized europe could exist is wrong

[manic juniper]

It could lol

[quasi needle]

No not realistically

[tight phoenix]

Sounds like a international player fails in gully cricket. U can't even handle a insurgency and talk about global rankings. Why army fail in Manipur?

[quasi needle]

And it would be a shite idea

[manic juniper]

There is next to no nationalism, and no one fears German or French being imposed on smaller countries. It never happened and it never will

[quasi needle]

Next to no…?

[tight phoenix]

How seperate topic? What's role of army to protect the nation! That's matter of security.

[quasi needle]

You are a bit out of touch

Euro skepticism is rising

[dapper laurel]

It can work and there are the conditions to make it work, otherwise enjoy your little united kingdom with economic crises and unstable governments, Europe has a great future, which is not for pessimistic people

[manic juniper]

It's a loud minority

[quasi needle]

Far right parties have been RAPIDLY growing

[manic juniper]

Italy has a far right party in power, they didn't leave the EU

[quasi needle]

So?

[dapper laurel]

In Italy a neo-fascist party literally won the elections and, after a year, they did nothing

[quasi needle]

Does them not leaving mean they support a more centralized EU

[manic juniper]

So you just put forward a useless point

There is no correlation between far right parties and leaving the EU, they just want closed borders or they hate on immigrants

[quasi needle]

Answer my question

[manic juniper]

They don't hate on other Europeans

[dapper laurel]

No, but they are the ones who had to leave, and they are also the most extremist, think about what we can do with the others parties

[manic juniper]

A bunch of parties can think what they want, plenty of European countries could federalise and people wouldn't oppose it. For one all Nordic countries in the EU, the Baltic countries, they could federalise and no one would be against it

[quasi needle]

Giorgia Meloni, leader of the Brothers of Italy party and current Italian Prime Minister, has consistently advocated for a “confederal Europe” composed of sovereign nations, opposing the concept of a federal European Union. In September 2020, upon her election as President of the European Conservatives and Reformists Party, she stated: “Let us continue to fight together for a confederate Europe of free and sovereign states.”

AfD is still growing

Especially with Elon’s support

[dapper laurel]

No shit will ever happen

[manic juniper]

A confederate Europe is still more than what we have now, Meloni is more pro EU than the current EU

[quasi needle]

You sure?

[dapper laurel]

Then the confederation is the most real thing at the moment

[quasi needle]

Which advocates for lesser centralization

I don’t oppose the EU as it is now. But it has so far failed and sovereignty must be preserved

[manic juniper]

That's not bad either, since Germany is making all the wrong choices right now

[quasi needle]

The second sovereignty is taken away is when shit goes haywire

The EU is WAY too diverse to cater to everyone on that level

[manic juniper]

A federalised EU should simply not be majority German and French, since Poland, Lithuania and Estonia are proving that they are more economically dynamic and with a lot of potential. They deserve to have a say

[manic juniper]

It already is and most people support it

[dapper laurel]

I am a pro-European in this sense, but a federation struggles to function in countries like Germany, why should it work for the EU?

[quasi needle]

Take away the commission and make it entirely elected by nation state populations

The commission is corrupt

[manic juniper]

Why would people be against diversity when it doesn't threaten them, you never see nationalist rhetoric against other Europeans. It's almost always about extraeuropean immigrants

[quasi needle]

Because that’s not what European nationalism is about

It’s about sovereignty

[manic juniper]

Then European nationalism is pro-Europe... It would support a confederation at worst and a federation at best

[quasi needle]

Yes that’s why I support a decentralized union. But the current state of the EU is in tatters

Semi-decentralized *

[manic juniper]

It's only bad because they put too many eggs in the German basket

[quasi needle]

The parliament is good, the commission is bad

[manic juniper]

It's not even strictly bad, it's simply stagnant

[quasi needle]

All power to the people. The second you let politicians vote for a separate set of leaders does it go badly

US Supreme Court for example. Meant to hold the executive to account, yet the executive is the one that chooses them

I still think that Nigel and the Brexiteers stunted the UK for 5 years and lied to a disgusting amount of people

[lime cobalt]

anyone know the history of israel ? i need to clarify some information based on what u read ?

[lime cobalt]

I feel like Israel is just someone trying to return to their former home.

based on information i read

[frozen cape]

eww no

[lime cobalt]

Around the 13th century BCE, according to Jewish scriptures, the Israelites entered the land of Canaan (which includes modern Palestine) after the Exodus from Egypt.

The Israelites settled in the region and established the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, with Jerusalem as their political and religious center.

i dont undertand why people hate israel, based on what ?

[quasi needle]

Because they were moved out, then forcefully moved back in by the British in 1945 in what was Palestine at the time

[lime cobalt]

it means Jewish scriptures is valid about the record ?

[quasi needle]

Personally I don’t know why they left Jerusalem, but they still displaced the Palestinians that were there for ages at that time

That’s like British people invading Africa because…. Nvm

[manic juniper]

Why then

[manic juniper]

I recall this, Germanic people obviously

[lime cobalt]

The Israeli people have faced the threat of extinction multiple times.

Over the centuries, the region was controlled by various empires, including:

The Greeks (under Alexander the Great)
The Romans (starting in the 1st century BCE)
The Byzantines
The Islamic Caliphates
The Ottoman Empire
During these periods, the Jewish population declined significantly due to revolts against the Romans

and hollocoust

[thorny steeple]

Against the Romans even when they were not there

[manic juniper]

No such thing as the Byzantines

[thorny steeple]

Why?

[manic juniper]

They were Romans

[thorny steeple]

Some people have a hard time calling them Romans

Reluctant on it

[lime cobalt]

historically the Eastern Roman Empire

fun fact : In 1952, after the death of David Ben-Gurion, Einstein was offered the position of President of Israel. However, Einstein declined the offer, stating that he felt unqualified for such a political role, although he held Israel in great respect.

[frozen cape]

they already have most of the benefits of being a member without actually being one

[feral river]

Palestine was never a sovereign state

[lime cobalt]

when Adolf Hitler came to power in Germany in 1933, Albert Einstein was traveling in the United States. He had been on a lecture tour and was abroad when the Nazis took control., his decision to leave Germany saved him from the potential persecution faced by many other Jews under the Nazi regime.

[thorny steeple]

So

[lime cobalt]

so blessing for usa, and him self

[thorny steeple]

More like blessing for himself, he didn't a part in the Manhattan project, I think probably he would made the same decision even if he was in Germany at the time hitler took control.

[dapper laurel]

I know that Hitler considered him an Aryan of Jewish faith, so he wouldn't have been persecuted, he was a strategic person for the war, undoubtedly, but these are speculations

[lime cobalt]

He was indeed not involved for certain reasons, but he was the one who warned Roosevelt to initiate research because Germany had already started their research first.

[lean pebble]

What's the topic of this talking?

[lime cobalt]

wow, nice info thanks

[thorny steeple]

Yes speculation y'know

[lime cobalt]

The key physical traits they considered to be Aryan included:

Light Skin – Pale or fair skin.
Blond Hair – Typically light blonde hair, sometimes with a golden or light brown tone.
Blue or Light-Colored Eyes – The Nazis idealized people with blue eyes, although other light-colored eyes (like green or gray) were also considered favorable.
Tall Stature – A tall and robust physique was often associated with the "ideal" Aryan appearance.
Straight Nose – The Nazis also believed in the idealization of certain facial features, including a straight nose.

so hitle only persecute non-aryan jews ??

[formal pilot]

[dapper laurel]

Yep, so it's not reliable information, there are some claims about this matter, but you know, anything can happen

[dapper laurel]

In general, Jews were persecuted, but for Einstein there could be an exception

[thorny steeple]

True always with primary sources

[carmine gorge]

Bollywood aryan

[dapper laurel]

Bear in mind that in Germany, not all Germans were "Aryans" either, they were a considerable minority, they couldn't persecute their own population

[thorny steeple]

Einstein had already moved to Switzerland before the Holocaust began, then he went to exile in USA

He failed an entrance test to a Swiss university because he didn't know French at the time

[dapper laurel]

Did he want to work in Geneva?

What a loser, even my dad managed to work in Switzerland

(ironic message)

[thorny steeple]

I don't know, he did very well in the test as expected, but to move out of Germany was a sudden decision from his family, so he didn't prepare enough to be good at French and pass it

Later in life he learned French

[thorny steeple]

Einstein was overrated, what kind of genius doesn't know French?

Switzerland is the European country I would like to live in the most

[lime cobalt]

i think he will persecutedif he in germany that time,Einstein, as a Jew, was considered a "enemy of the state" by the Nazi ideology, which was highly anti-Semitic.

[thorny steeple]

Hitler had Jewish soldiers

Very few but he did

[dapper laurel]

There is also a wiki page of one of these soldiers, but it wasn't known that he was Jewish

After that discovery, he mysteriously disappeared or smth

[lime cobalt]

The defeat of Germany in WW1 ended the monarchy in Germany; Hitler managed to revive its strength and economy—a powerful man. best influencer

[quasi needle]

I’m referring to what was the ottoman territory of Palestine

Since that’s what it was called

[quasi needle]

Most expensive place to live in the world!

Go to Austria. Budget Switzerland

Great food great people great skiing

[quasi needle]

At the time!!!

Just before Britain drew the borders of Israel and Palestine from 1918 to 1948, it was the “British Mandate of Palestine”

A de facto protectorate

[vocal quest]

Because Roman had beef with jews so they changed the name of land in short it's European name in the end Israel is also European lol

There's nothing as sovergian people were just the subject of powerful people nothing more than

[lime cobalt]

evolution of palestine name : Canaan (ca. 3000 BCE)
+
Land of Israel / Kingdom of Israel and Judah (ca. 1000 BCE)
+
Judea (6th century BCE - 135 CE)
+
Syria Palaestina (135 CE)
+
Bilad al-Sham (7th - 16th century CE)
+
Mandate of Palestine (1920 - 1948)
+
Palestine Today

After the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Romans, Emperor Hadrian renamed the province Syria Palaestina to suppress Jewish identity. This name was inspired by the Philistines, a historical people who had lived along the coast.

[thorny steeple]

Yep

What's your view on it

Alright cool

Okey noted

[feral river]

This is my home, Jinan city 🇨🇳

[abstract cypress]

I spot China Eastern

[lime cobalt]

Nice, wellcome home

[feral river]

yeah China eastern airline

That’s the airline which get me from Busan, Korea to Jinan, Shangdong, China

[abstract cypress]

A320 by the winglets

[feral river]

Oh you must be an expert of plane

I don’t even know that lol

[abstract cypress]

Am I right?

[feral river]

Idk lol

[abstract cypress]

It is A320. I thought Xi Jinping told the chinese airlines to use Comac

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[thorny steeple]

Or the C1919 I think I don't remember the name correctly

[restive stone]

hi

I want to be able to talk about a vast number of topics like everyone else here. Does anyone have tips on how I can start?

[lime cobalt]

My favorite actress has aged.

she looks so old and skinny

If only she were in Game of Thrones, but instead, she's in its rival series that only lasted one season. Camelot

[thorny steeple]

Welcome home

[sterile goblet]

Always try to discover new things and learn about them and how things work.

[quasi needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196642066378268745/1316493498249253096/attachment.gif

[lime cobalt]

im the one who live in the jungle

[latent pendant]

Help meee i'll not pass the grammar subject

[flat holly]

I recently joined a Vietnamese company that came to India to establish their business. Things went well initially, but from the second week, they started getting angry for no reason, even when there were no mistakes on my part. I realized they are racist for some reason. Their employees from Vietnam, who came here to support the business, also hate me without any reason.

I just want to say, if they continue acting against me, I don’t care. I will go to the labor court, file cases against them, and expose everything in the news and on social media. I’ll make sure everyone knows about this company and how racism is ingrained in their behaviour, especially the cheap and unacceptable behaviour of those from the north of Vietnam.

[thorny steeple]

João Maria José Franciso Xavier de Paula Luis Antonio Rafael de Bragança

[shy summit]

The opening phrase is wrong

It’s “Once Upon a Time”

anastashia was planning

They wanted to

drive there

you can just say drive, car is assumed

noticed an issue with the motors

the engines

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel https://youtu.be/BKnYHBLAX3I?si=vMWnahTAlnwmWu_J

[dapper laurel]

However, what Romania got from the First World War is the most undeserved award ever

They got disproportionate pieces of territories, the Hungarian population was completely neglected

While Italy has given a greater contribution but obtained less territories, which were also the useless ones

[open plover]

You should not look for trouble with that issue

[inland charm]

Lol what?

You're telling me to be silent?

How can a person witness genocide and stay silent

I can't

[thorny steeple]

Nice

[thorny steeple]

No European country is worth living right now due to the war

[quasi needle]

💀 ?

really aint that bad

if any country is doing worse its germany but they still suck up all that oil from russia

[thorny steeple]

Jews always got refuge under the Islamic rules

[thorny steeple]

This is what I heard from a guy who lived before and during the war in Bournemouth

Eating bacalhau in portugal had never been so expensive

[quasi needle]

whats that

[thorny steeple]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod
Very traditional in Portugal, and adjacently in Brazil

The dish we made out of it obviously

[quasi needle]

why would

the war affect cod

[thorny steeple]

Didn't inflation increase due to it

[unique flint]

hey evryone

[pastel barn]

Can you send me this video?

[dapper laurel]

I'm currently studying Dante

Great Roman mind

Certainly a reactionary

[thorny steeple]

Nice mate

I will have to learn Italian first in order to read him

Is it your last year in high school?

[dapper laurel]

I have two more after this one

[thorny steeple]

You are 17 aren't you?

Why do you guys finish this late

[dapper laurel]

No, I'm 16

Even recently, since the end of September

[thorny steeple]

In which month does your vacation start?

[dapper laurel]

I'm already on holiday 🤑🤑🤑

In southern Italy, at relatives place

[thorny steeple]

I have an European cousin, she's Portuguese

[dapper laurel]

They are hosting me for free, I eat for free and I have cousins, it's heaven

[thorny steeple]

Naples?

[dapper laurel]

My relatives are scattered between Europe and America

[dapper laurel]

50 km further south, approximately

Salerno

12°, tropical temperatures

[thorny steeple]

Lol only Southern Brazil gets to this point

[thorny steeple]

Got it

[dapper laurel]

I'm sweating, I was used to -7° in the evening

[near spruce]

alguem fala português aqui ?

[thorny steeple]

Which one's better, summer or winter?

[thorny steeple]

Nós

[dapper laurel]

I prefer summer

No matter the temperatures, it's too nice to go to the beach

[thorny steeple]

I won't go to the beach if the temperature is any less than 25°

[thorny steeple]

Summer here is like 36°

[dapper laurel]

💀💀💀

[dapper laurel]

22° is already hot

It's raining like shit here

[thorny steeple]

Nice

Will your family gather to celebrate Christmas?

[dapper laurel]

Yes, there is the whole family on the mother's side

For those on the dad's side, a video call is enough

[thorny steeple]

Dad's german isn't he

Hard to gather

[dapper laurel]

Dad is ethnically german, but he isn't german

[thorny steeple]

My state is almost as large as Ukraine, so even though my relatives live in here, it's difficult to gather

[dapper laurel]

Remember all the south Tyrol thing?

[thorny steeple]

Sudtirol yeah

Kamu used to infuriate you by saying it's Austria

Because they have that tyrol region

[dapper laurel]

The region of Italy where I am now is perhaps as big as Montenegro, so it's easy to meet together (at least for other relatives)

[dapper laurel]

The funny thing is that we don't feel Austrian

Neither me or my dad

Not even the other German speaking people I know, they feel South Tyrolean, neither Italian nor Austrian

Too Italian to be Austrian but too Austrian to be Italian

[near spruce]

eu predendo fala a lingau de vcs

gostei de grupo aqui

foda que eu tenho que ir para traducão

[dapper laurel]

Bro, English please, I don't understand nada of what you're saying

[thorny steeple]

Que daora. Você mora no Brasil?

[thorny steeple]

Got it

[thorny steeple]

To whom did it belong historically?

[dapper laurel]

Italy, since Roman times, then it was Germanized with the Germanic people who migrated from Bavaria and now it is Italian again

Even though Italians are a minority in that region

[near spruce]

I want to speak your language

rio de Janeiro

[thorny steeple]

Just keep it up

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

[near spruce]

in this group here you talk about what in fact

[thorny steeple]

Please don't end up in an identity crisis

[dapper laurel]

Now we coexist, even if they are being assimilated by Italians, as happened in my case

[dapper laurel]

I'm already going through it

[thorny steeple]

Like Nietzsche, he revoked his Prussian passport because he said he descended from noble Polish men

[dapper laurel]

I don't even know what I am, maybe just a freak

[thorny steeple]

At least you were born in a developed country, the likelihood of it is very low, maybe lower than 10%

[dapper laurel]

Too Italian for the "Austrians", too Germanic for the Italians

[thorny steeple]

Lol everything

[near spruce]

You guys talk about online sales ?

anything about the digital world

[inland charm]

@pastel barn I sent u a dm

[manic juniper]

Average coastal Pohjanmaa inhabitant

[manic juniper]

?

I already wasn't typing there because I was on the wrong English server

You only think that being called gay is funny or offensive because you're 12 at best

Yeah, that makes everything worse

[kind hazel]

Eren Yeager It's so beautiful that takes me back to the past

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

Truly

[abstract cypress]

virgin europeans having identity crises over a speck of land smaller than my house

vs. American Melting Pot

[cursive bobcat]

Word: gallery

Definition 1 (noun): a room or series of rooms where works of art are exhibited
Definition 2 (noun): a porch along the outside of a building (sometimes partly enclosed)
Definition 3 (noun): a horizontal (or nearly horizontal) passageway in a mine

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by kapoor0809_00653

[vernal sinew]

algum brasileiro aqui nesta sala?

[upper peak]

@thorny steeple gallery means photos , memories ...!😌✨

[spare bone]

A collection of media

[cursive bobcat]

Word: downfall

Definition 1 (noun): a sudden decline in strength or number or importance
Definition 2 (noun): failure that results in a loss of position or reputation
Definition 3 (noun): the falling to earth of any form of water (rain or snow or hail or sleet or mist)

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by kapoor0809_00653

[copper dove]

how to speak English

[spare bone]

Ignore that one

That's a bot

[stiff herald]

the Discord bot or the server's bot?

I've seen these AI for many days

[spare bone]

I'm pretty sure it's just a scam bot

It's coded to write that message and to reply with a certain response if someone replies to it

It then sends a dm asking for information to try to scam you

[heady sable]

Scam in nowadays is crazy

[thorny steeple]

Gm

Gm

[sterile goblet]

Do you have hair in your special place?

[magic bridge]

Hello folk

I must ask what building your currently in

And your credit card information

[restive seal]

😂😂

[inland charm]

BREAKING: Israeli occupation forces have executed a Palestinian man and set his body on fire in front of the entrance to Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza.

The Israeli explosive robot places an explosive box at the entrance of Kamal Adwan Hospital.

Had to remove two messages. Sorry

[quasi needle]

When the UN voted for whether food is a human right, the only two countries in the world that voted no were the United States and Israel

[thorny steeple]

Did that explode?

[humble tundra]

How is it work ?

[inland charm]

I didn't see any post about it yet

[inland charm]

It's a robot. You can find videos about them using robots to plant exploited around Gaza for more destruction

I don't wanna be among the ones who remained totally silent during this genocide thus I'm doing what I'm doing

[humble tundra]

:(((( ok

[inland charm]

News from 4 hours ago: Aid group Oxfam said in a statement that just 12 trucks carrying food and water have reached the northern Gaza Strip during two-and-a-half months, raising the severe situation in the besieged area.

The group declared it has been prevented from delivering "life-saving aid" along with other international aid groups into the northern Gaza since October 6, 2024, when Israeli occupation forces have started its military operation on the enclave.

“Of the meagre 34 trucks of food and water given permission to enter the North Gaza Governorate over the last 2.5 months, deliberate delays and systematic obstructions by the Israeli military meant that just twelve managed to distribute aid to starving Palestinian civilians," Oxfam said.

Video from two months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51BvCUpcBTc

Situation worsened.

Before not letting the aid trucks get in was a secret. Everyone knew it but they denied it.

Then they declared it publicly that they will "reduce" the aids.

Thus it is almost no aids getting in now

[sterile goblet]

Please be careful or you will get banned by discord itself because this is against their Rules specifically Palestine

As you know the Israeli has the right to defend themselves

[severe arch]

I didnt understand why usa so serious for help israel, i mean for +-76 years israel cant win by some "r*dical local warrior" even they have the super military weapon?

[severe arch]

But israel officially murd*red all palestinian baby

[sterile goblet]

No they don't want this war to end

Israel is a terrorist movement supported by US

[severe arch]

Welp, if im in humus vision i understand they just want too free themselves from the zionist hand

[sterile goblet]

I'm trying to be ironic

[severe arch]

Which is its happened to in my country when we want to free ourselves from netherlsnd an japan hand

In my opinion

[sterile goblet]

Israel is just a pawn
America want to take the control over all of the middle East

But they need someone to take the blame because Russia and China will not commit silence

So they created Israel State

[severe arch]

If the israel state "won" its mean they are just a doll country for usa?

[dapper laurel]

No shit, again with these conspiracy theories?

[severe arch]

Wait, its mean israel cant officislly free from any country bruh

[dapper laurel]

Israel exists because the Jews have the right to a state, just like all other peoples of the world

[severe arch]

But in history the palestinian regional is the place when the two superpower military between the cross army and the khalifah army try to war eachother for get the place

[dapper laurel]

If the US needs some oil, it will take it by eventually invading some countries as it already did in the past

[severe arch]

But in 20th century, the jew innocent from h*tler genocide is come to the palestinian people for some help

[severe arch]

Nahh man, its 2024 the iran state is officially have some "contract and relation" with russia and china

Its mean if usa attacked irak or every region thats close to iran

[dapper laurel]

At that time Palestine was under the UK rule, the British helped them, not the Palestinians

[severe arch]

Yes but back then their try to help them right? But after the british leave why the zionist want to take all that palestinian region

If we use our logic, palestinian and israel people must united because their backstory

Palestinian with their abraham backstory

Israel with their moses backstory

But now israel always try to genocjde and destroy everything

Man it more worse than usa send little boy for hiroshima

[dapper laurel]

They never tried in the beginning, soon after the creation of the state of Israel, the Jews were attacked, so they simply reacted to Arab provocations

[severe arch]

Never?

[dapper laurel]

Remember that the Palestinians had relations with Hitler

[severe arch]

Man relation with hitler is just normal like hitler with turkey, hitler with japan

[dapper laurel]

Did you know that Israel holds the distinction of being the first state to be attacked almost immediately after its creation?

[severe arch]

Idk

But the question that in my head always is, why the israel military always targetted the school and hospital

[dapper laurel]

No, it wasn't normal, Hitler was an extremist, against the Jews

[dapper laurel]

Because terrorists hide there

[severe arch]

Then why militsry not send some army for attacjed the real terrorist

Zionist just explode many school and many hospital

But then there is no hamas inside it

[dapper laurel]

In your opinion, in the small strip of Gaza, do terrorists choose to hide in places that are unlikely to be bombed or do they come out into the open fire?

[severe arch]

Hamas have the main base bro come on

[dapper laurel]

Too dangerous for them

[severe arch]

You guys have the peak militsry weapon and invention but cant kill for some terrorist with 1956 ak47💀💀

Man logically terrorist will use their hostage dont care if they are use palestinian or israelian people

[sterile goblet]

Have you ever heard about the Belfort Agreement

[dapper laurel]

Why would they send the military to die? It's much better to bomb from a distance and then advance on the rubble, these are pretty old war tactics, you know?

[severe arch]

Allahu akb*r what i just watch lil bro💀💀

[severe arch]

Yo i cant blame for many country to curse israel bruh

Murdered innocent people isnt the best sacrifice for kill one terrorist

[dapper laurel]

The Palestinians chosen this

[severe arch]

Nahh blud, same as israel for defend theirself

[dapper laurel]

Next time no October 7th

[severe arch]

Welp if militsry not destroy the nation state school and indonesian gift hospital

[sterile goblet]

Actually they first planned to put the Israeli State on Argentina

[dapper laurel]

It's war, you can't expect any civilians to die, this has happened in all other wars

[severe arch]

Yes mate ofc so dont blame the humus warrior if they accidentately kill the israel peopld

[sterile goblet]

But after the communist started getting wider in the middle East US and UK didn't like that

[severe arch]

Israel is just a doll country bro come on

[dapper laurel]

Nah, I don't blame them, It just makes me angry that they then play the victim when they knew exactly what they were up against

[severe arch]

Even if they are win the war, israel dont have anything except many mosque and one big wall

[severe arch]

Bruh israel playing victim in reality

I mean come on please realize it

[dapper laurel]

Maybe, but at least they do something concrete to solve their problems

[severe arch]

The war that netanyahu and hamas staryr its just meant nothing

[severe arch]

What the concrete solution? Destroy more school?

[dapper laurel]

Destroy the terrorists perhaps?

[sterile goblet]

Do you really believe that the greatest intelligence system did not know what the gang members were planning?

[severe arch]

Terrorist make the school for their base even the school that national state gift?

[dapper laurel]

Lel, do you mean it was all orchestrated by Israel?

[sterile goblet]

It's just a poor excuse to exterminate a people.

[severe arch]

Welp why isrsel not spend some spy like usa with cia

[formal pilot]

Mossad is there

[dapper laurel]

Yes, because Netanyahu can't sleep at night if they aren't all exterminated, that's how it works right?

[dapper laurel]

They already did

[sterile goblet]

Israel cannot differentiate between Hamas members and civilians, but it can assassinate a person protected in a building in Iran.

[dapper laurel]

Remember what happened to Hezbollah members?

[severe arch]

Then why the 7th oct event happened?

[severe arch]

Yes ofc after the 7th oct happen

Bro the act that netanyahu do its just make the war being complixated

[dapper laurel]

They were unprepared, then they sent more funds to the military and the secret services so that it doesn't happen again

[sterile goblet]

There has always been and will remain a war of influence between Russia and America, while the rest are terrorist groups funded by both sides.

[formal pilot]

It's just ridiculous how they're going to houses in west bank and claiming it, it's literally illigal settlements
Gaza strip is open air prison

[severe arch]

Because it, many israel people down to the streat for trump indolence

[formal pilot]

They're forcing the people to hate israel

[sterile goblet]

Fuck Israel

[severe arch]

Its because what israel do

If netanyahu want to send some united solution between palestina and israel

[formal pilot]

Extremism breeds extremism

[severe arch]

Or minimal is netanyahu not attack and not claiming gaza

It will never happen

[formal pilot]

It's not permanent solution

Only right education and rationality in long run can solve the problem, kids from both countries hate eachother

[severe arch]

No is permanent,imagine how many terrorist has decrease if netamyahu dobthis

[sterile goblet]

So they are taking Palestinians land cool

[dapper laurel]

Meanwhile, Israel gives work to a lot of Arabs, who are also the second largest ethnic group there, they wage war on criminals, not on good people

[severe arch]

Really? What the example

What the absolute examole

[sterile goblet]

Hitler did too

[formal pilot]

We've enough evidence to conclude thousands of innocent folks died in Gaza strip lol

[dapper laurel]

It's war

[sterile goblet]

Bro is brain washed

[formal pilot]

There's a thing called war crimes

[severe arch]

ITS GENOCIDE!!!!

If its war, why there is no news that israel civilization die?

[formal pilot]

Nope bro is really good person, he's old homie

[dapper laurel]

Why does no one talk about the Ukrainians who die every day, why does no one commemorate all the civilian victims of the Second World War in the same way as Palestine?

[formal pilot]

If anything is justifiable in the name of war you've no rights to cry about holocaust

[sterile goblet]

No can deny what Israel is doing in Gaza

It's a fucking public genocide

[severe arch]

Nope the uni europe do

[formal pilot]

We've to admit war crimes

[formal pilot]

Because it wasn't the topic of discussion here

[dapper laurel]

It's because if non-western power does something, it's OK, if it's a western power, it's war crimes

[severe arch]

Even many footballer scream for ukraine

[formal pilot]

If you want to talk about em, hell yeah I'm down

[dapper laurel]

Well, then October 7th is also a war crime, this war started for that reason

[sterile goblet]

Russia has the right to defend itself

[formal pilot]

Absolutely, it was completely barbaric action and criminals should be punished

[dapper laurel]

It's not even an argument, they attacked first

[severe arch]

Before it, there so many palestinian got murdered by israel news everyday, everyweek, everymomth, everybreath

[sterile goblet]

Who told you that

[severe arch]

Maybe bro not have some news channel😂😂

[sterile goblet]

Israel is attacked first in 1940

[dapper laurel]

I could also consider what Israel is doing a war crime, but when you fight a war on such a small territory and you know that that territory is full of terrorist cells, one of the solutions you have is to bomb them