🧠｜serious-chat

[desert nebula]

sadly it's true, i also have relatives there. i read before how winter can cause depression

[lunar stream]

Yeah, its sad.

Yo stop with that emoji

[desert nebula]

i can't

[lunar stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-funny-meme-emoji-jar-gif-6413585594020144302

[desert nebula]

[lunar stream]

[desert nebula]

@native bronze that's the same one you use

[lunar stream]

Hey

you can stay

[desert nebula]

[lunar stream]

: )

[desert nebula]

I'm not in Türkiye actually

but thanks

[lunar stream]

where are you???

[desert nebula]

USA currently

[lunar stream]

[desert nebula]

[lunar stream]

[desert nebula]

[lunar stream]

[balmy folio]

Hi

[desert nebula]

[desert nebula]

hello

[balmy folio]

an argument with athiest can you join

[lunar stream]

[lunar stream]

Alhamdulillah.

But I cant open mic.

maybe i can

[balmy folio]

thats problem

[lunar stream]

idk

which channel

[native bronze]

I dont know him

[lunar stream]

idk know you too

lets know eachother

[native bronze]

Where u from

[desert nebula]

a good Türk

[lunar stream]

@native bronze Shes a good Syrian

the best syrian i ever met

: )

[native bronze]

Lmao

[lunar stream]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-türk-turkish-gif-6286375903915692212

[tame radish]

Why are you disrespecting Turkey

[lunar stream]

Im Turkish.

[sacred wedge]

Tamam bana gel

[lunar stream]

Gelem mi

[sacred wedge]

Merhaba

[lunar stream]

merhaba

[sacred wedge]

Seni lahmacun

[tame radish]

So?

[lunar stream]

I'm not disrespecting

Where are you from to say this?

Yeah, stay silent.

https://tenor.com/view/blessings-upon-you-murat-turkish-mustache-gif-4307733216366135808

[thorny steeple]

What's good guys

[desert nebula]

Lol 😭😭

alright you're the best Turk too

[desert nebula]

[lunar stream]

: )

[stiff crystal]

If anyone’s interested

[lunar stream]

what the fu-

[stiff crystal]

Indo-European language tree

[lunar stream]

alr bro thx

@desert nebula which channel are you in

[desert nebula]

Politics and religion but i think I'll leave 😭

[lunar stream]

yea lets go to anpther vc

[weary belfry]

Hellu

[lunar ivy]

I didn't have any feelings for Turkey before, but the number of Turkish nationalists on the internet is starting to make me dislike them.

[thorny steeple]

I haven't seen the 🇸🇾 being used since Asaad was overthrown

[desert nebula]

that's great

soon this emoji will be removed

[ruby vector]

I still have it on my keyboard

I want the green one

[thorny steeple]

I'll miss it, I recall when I was learning these flags and it was nice to differentiate it from Iraq's

"Iraq's the written one"

[desert nebula]

the flag with the 2 stars represented the union of Egypt and Syria so it's meaningless now. We changed the flag many times. Iraq had similar one too

[thorny steeple]

We've got Western Sahara's flag already

[thorny steeple]

Yeah i knew about the meaning of the two stars

Now they represent Aleppo, Damascus and Deir Zor

[desert nebula]

yeah but those were like states not like the current cities now. because France divided Syria into several states when Syria got united again( except Lebanon and hatay( in Türkiye now) ) this flag represented the union of those states

[thorny steeple]

France created a province system when they took control

[manic juniper]

It's missing an entire language family below the Baltic umbrella, the Dnipro Baltic languages

[stiff crystal]

Oh damn

Didn’t see that

[manic juniper]

Okay, I don't understand how that is related to feminism

[thorny steeple]

Our 🟨🟩 represents noble families

[feral river]

french didn't really play well with divide and rule

they really have to learn that from British

[desert nebula]

yes

They tried to spread sectarianism

[desert nebula]

The topic wasn't about feminism lol

Just the western media

[desert nebula]

they're the same

[manic juniper]

Then how are feminists related to western media making shit up? Pointless

[desert nebula]

girl wth have even read what I've written. The only time I mentioned feminism was referring to that woman yelling, since now the feminists are saying the new government won't give women equal rights but when the women were being tortured and r@ped they didn't utter a word

[manic juniper]

Show these feminists

[desert nebula]

you can simply search in any social media under every post, that mentions "women" and here I'm talking about those who call themselves feminists not an organization or whatever

just a moment ago someone here was saying the new gov won't let women held positions as a judge lol but they took someone's words out of context and nothing have been announced yet

[patent leaf]

serious chat getting reaall seriouuuuuus

[atomic owl]

i'm new in this server and feeling out of the blue and can't involve in a convo

[patent leaf]

you sure its got something to do w you being new?

😟

[atomic owl]

not really but i'm here to be good at conversations and i dont know where to start

[manic juniper]

Wait until someone starts something here and join the conversation giving your opinion even if controversial

This chat welcomes everyone from liberals to most extremists

[errant solar]

What happened?

[crude widget]

Leaving out the conservatives and moderates, I see

[manic juniper]

They're included between the extremes

[crude widget]

I like how one end is referred to as extremists, and the other isn't

My joke was that you meant liberal extremists when you made your statement. It was a bit facetious of me, I admit

but perhaps you had a typo when you said "most extremists". Did you mean to say "moderate extremists"?

Wait sorry

I mean "conservative extremists"

But the typo only makes some sense with moderate to most

I'm confusing myself

So I'll shut up

[inland charm]

I heard about that

[thorny steeple]

Hey guys

[inland charm]

We are getting a live war time propaganda experience like I heard they used to spread propaganda during ww2

One side reports more damage, one side reports less damage. Reports someone's death etc etc

[inland charm]

How would you classify me

[manic juniper]

Liberals are centrists to me or at least near the centre, with extremists I mean the two poles in the classic two lines political axis

[manic juniper]

Because there are extremists that aren't allowed here, like Nazis, those are too much and would get banned or at least aren't friendly

Such as I, a reptile supremacist, I'm acceptable despite being an extremist. But barely

[inland charm]

I'm confused about my position. I just take sides with everyone who seems right to me. Not against human rights... Not trying to get votes by creating hate and vise versa

[manic juniper]

No idea, most people are liberals but I don't know you enough. Maybe you are a leftist or a moderate leftist

[inland charm]

Tbh I don't know if what being left or right means

I thought left means communism

[manic juniper]

Communism is considered far left

[thorny steeple]

Should the British house of lords be scrapped

[inland charm]

🇵🇸 🕊

At least 115 Infants who were born during the Israeli invasion have died as of yet.

.

Haaretz newspaper reports, citing Israeli military leaders:

• There is a line in the northern route of “Netzarim” called the “corpse line,” and the people of Gaza know it.

• After shooting at Palestinians at the “Netzarim” corridor, we leave the bodies for the dogs to eat.

• The commander of the 252nd Division in the Israeli army classified the “Netzarim” route and its surroundings as a “killing zone,” and anyone who reaches it is shot.

• There is a competition and challenge between Israeli military units in Gaza to kill the highest number of Palestinians.

• The Israeli army kills civilians near “Netzarim” and executes them, claiming they are resistance fighters.

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/FydO5SxWYJw?si=f6ECajKms4u29Txu

[inland charm]

Data collected by the European Commission and analysed by Al Jazeera shows that since October 7, the EU has awarded Israeli institutions more than 238 million euros ($250m), including 640,000 euros ($674,000) to Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI), a top aerospace and aviation manufacturer supplying the Israeli army.

Since Oct.7, 2023, the European Union’s position was immediately clear, saying “Israel has a right to defend itself – today and in the days to come,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen posted on X, alongside an image of her office’s headquarters lit up with Israel’s flag. “The European Union stands with Israel.”

The world is lawless.
Western civilization doesn't exist.
UN ICJ are just .... Nothing these are nothing

They can oppress the weaker nations

[cobalt patrol]

@jj

@crystal lake

the compulsion is you saying that islam is the only right religion

and people should follow islam

do you also not agree with this?

[shy summit]

I mean, Western Civilization does exist, both in actuality and conceptually.

Civilization isn’t defined by a lack of oppression

[crude widget]

Maybe in America, liberals are centrists

I'll give you that

Or I should say, democrats are centrists

[manic juniper]

I have no idea, I'm not American

[thorny steeple]

Same y'know

[crude widget]

I would like to know what term you use to describe the left of the centre, if liberal is in the centre

[manic juniper]

Centre left, oftentimes social democrats

But they're not that much left, it depends on the country too

Social democracy is pretty tame and it only got weaker over time

[crude widget]

Oh do you use this or something similar?

[thorny steeple]

Which one are you on @manic juniper

[manic juniper]

It's the most simple, yes, the bare minimum

[manic juniper]

No idea, it depends on my mood, the time of the year and if the people in power are people that I like or not

[crude widget]

My brain is wired to think like an American for the most part, left is liberal and right is conservative

But I understand there are other models of political ideology

[manic juniper]

If I don't like them then I'm libertarian, if I like them I'll be authoritarian, left most of the times, either to the extreme or close to the edge

[crude widget]

I'm fairly centrist myself and leaning economic left

[thorny steeple]

Interesting 🤔

[manic juniper]

To me liberals should be the bare acceptable minimum of the average person

People that are fine with an acceptable status quo and support more protection for vulnerable groups

But they fear a repentine change

[shy summit]

Democrats are left leaning but most tend to be barely a bit left of center

Libertarian / Authoritarian politics are less emphasized in American politics and are all over the place

[torpid dirge]

And they're for who promote critisism on over any religion

@crystal lake

[quasi needle]

By liberal are you using it with the same cadence people refer to the democrats with

[lament forge]

Congratulations , you stopped the war

[unreal jetty]

nice pfp

[balmy matrix]

u guys are matching

[unreal jetty]

yess

[balmy matrix]

perfeito

[unreal jetty]

você é br?

[balmy matrix]

não but I guessed that u are

[unreal jetty]

you're good at guessing then

[lament forge]

you too

[balmy matrix]

"dino" in ur nickname said it all already

[unreal jetty]

damn

[thorny steeple]

there were dinos in other countries too

[unreal jetty]

true

[balmy matrix]

not all countries are awake rn tho

[thorny steeple]

sleeping is for the weak

[balmy matrix]

wak indeed

[manic juniper]

I don't know since I'm not American, democrats seem to be either liberals or quasi-liberals

[feral river]

For nothing ?

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/BAfZ5_DAXFI?si=LEY7L6aqm_DINOST

[manic juniper]

Children are included in the vulnerable groups, wouldn't you wish for your son's safety?

[feral river]

How does my son’s safety relating to them ?

My son will stay safe without them

[manic juniper]

How so, only if you plan to watch over him 24/7, that means when he's out with his friends too, at school, everywhere

[feral river]

I hate them because most of them always saying that they are struggling that hard for everyone and the truth is they either fighting for some stupid assh or just get benefit from that benefit which benefits the shit

[feral river]

Because even if they doesn’t exists, the external environment will remain the same

People are concerned about their safety nothing relevant to what they do but what we feel and how it was damaging our interest

[manic juniper]

If it wasn't in their interests they wouldn't complain about it, nothing wrong with it anyway

[feral river]

Well nothing wrong with it while they are literally funding a stupid organization with some stupid billionaires that calling for shit and continuing affecting the public and get more benefit in politics ?

That’s a deal, a good fucking deal

[manic juniper]

What are you talking about

[feral river]

A good fucking deal pretend everyone don’t knows it

[manic juniper]

I'm not referring to any group in particular

[feral river]

I mean that’s them, the “leftists”

Behind all of these, is these pitiful leftists do benefit nothing from these while calling for that shit

[manic juniper]

Well I don't really care about them, I'm talking in general terms about anyone. I'm sure that abolishing slavery and child labour benefitted most people for example

[feral river]

And using their fucking standard of common sense and morality to regulate other people

We call that “morality kidnapping”

In China

[feral river]

Well it may benefit most people but that’s definitely not because those leftists we abolished them

We have real evidence that proofs how inefficiency the system really is

[manic juniper]

I don't think that leftists were a thing when those were abolished

[feral river]

Nothing relevant to them

[feral river]

Can’t agree moreo

[manic juniper]

It was mostly abolished under liberal governments

Oftentimes even by kingdoms

[feral river]

In authoritarian states we abolished slavery thousands of years before their existence

[manic juniper]

Liberals and socialists abolished child labour, late monarchies and early republics abolished slavery

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave-making_ant

[feral river]

Child’s right that’s a little bit late actually we all don’t have that shit before the industrial revolution

It’s the british doing the whole thing

[manic juniper]

Slavery would be just under reptilian overlords

It is a preferable alternative to mammalian "freedom"

[lament forge]

[thorny steeple]

Who's the most mysterious man in the Bible

[sonic lion]

that’s okay, it doesn’t offend me. I think it’s sad that some people are so depended on extrinsic validation

but what kind of power are u talking about tho?

power is kinda everywhere

according to Foucault

[torpid dirge]

I think Jesus himself

[thorny steeple]

Who's Malchizedek the most mysterious man in the Bible

[torpid dirge]

King or priest I think may be both

[sonic lion]

God

[torpid dirge]

The massiha they have called it

[sonic lion]

Satan might be the most interesting tho

I know it’s cliché

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/kEruf1XhdpA?si=hGRLehuoBM82jY_v

[torpid dirge]

As Reference of god and Jesus

[torpid dirge]

Satan is evil negative energy

[shy summit]

You do realize any public good, service or resource is a leftist idea right…?

[sonic lion]

“Negative energy” are you a teenage girl?

get out

[torpid dirge]

U r 10 th standard? Student

[shy summit]

Negative energy… this some metaphysical bs?….

[torpid dirge]

?

[sonic lion]

Yeah

[manic juniper]

Satan and Lucifer, were they the same individual? Why did Satan exist even if he was somebody else

[shy summit]

Yeah we, as physical beings, should be more concerned with the physical world.

[manic juniper]

Also the giant dragon at the end of the apocalypse

But I wouldn't say that was a man

[thorny steeple]

I mean on the written Bible y'know

[manic juniper]

If we are talking about humans only then idk there are many to choose from

[torpid dirge]

Accordingly herbew bibile there is reference about evil spirits every satan stick with their negatives ( bad and malediction) energy.

[thorny steeple]

Like I'm talking about Malchizedek y'know, https://youtu.be/kEruf1XhdpA?si=hGRLehuoBM82jY_v

[torpid dirge]

And negative energy is also refers as a metaphorical and physical so don't confuse man

[sonic lion]

I thought emotions as energy was a pseudoscience lie invented by web coaches on self improvement

It seems it’s older than I thought

[shy summit]

The Hebrew bible, as surmised by the scholars who study it, is not an accurate depiction of reality, full of stylistic opinions, drastically different depictions of historical events, the ancient Israeli religion and various other inaccuracies. It is not a reliable source of material worth.

[torpid dirge]

U talking as aspects of objectively I said it as religious belief ( bibile)

Both r different man

[torpid dirge]

@sonic lion

I mentioned it already

[sonic lion]

Yeah, of course

[formal pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1259553761739673611.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=bsfdancing_sine

[thorny steeple]

You just copy and paste stuff you watch on Ian Neves from youtube. No authority to talk about anything

[thorny steeple]

Mashallah

[thorny steeple]

What was the canudus war

[torpid dirge]

What is lan neves?

[sonic lion]

What?

[thorny steeple]

The enigmatic sator square

[sonic lion]

Are you projecting hard or somth

[thorny steeple]

What's it's origin and meaning

[thorny steeple]

One of the conflicts we had back in the 19th century

The eternal century

But great that you're interested on this stuff

[shy summit]

Thankfully as someone who has taken higher education on the subject, as well as years of personal inquiry, I am.

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel Sator,Arepo, Tenet,opera and Rotas

[thorny steeple]

Yep fully interested y'know

[manic juniper]

My personal pick for strangest character is Jethro, this dude possibly already was a monotheist or certainly a monolatrist, he possibly influenced Moses's religion, and the group he belonged to (the Kenites) almost weren't described at all

[thorny steeple]

Interesting, also the records for Malchizedek aren't fully completed on translation y'know

[thorny steeple]

Some time ago you said that Christians have never been persecuted, except for maybe some Muslim countries

So this is arguable

[manic juniper]

Jethro's people could be one of those responsible for introducing Yahweh to the Canaanites

[formal pilot]

Alright we're closer to AGI ever before

[manic juniper]

Since Yahweh likely was a more southern god, not native to Canaanite culture

[shy summit]

You don’t need to strawman me. First off, the context was within recent years and they have never faced the levels of systemic discrimination other groups have

[thorny steeple]

Mashallah we need to give it a turban y'know

[sonic lion]

AI is growing so fast

Everything on youtube has translated audio now

[thorny steeple]

AI emma

[sonic lion]

What?

[sonic lion]

@soft wind

[manic juniper]

They also built 3 forts in Africa

[thorny steeple]

The third country with the most Poles in the world

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/#:~:text=Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort @wanton copper

[formal pilot]

Yeah it's growing exponentially, can't wait to circulate AI generated political videos to start war

[manic juniper]

I mean Latvia itself was completely controlled by Germans back then

I even doubt they sent ethnic Latvian colonists in those places

[thorny steeple]

19th century?

[sonic lion]

Damn. I used to be concerned with art but that’s another level

[manic juniper]

Yes, Latvia and Estonia weren't as lucky as Lithuania, even Lithuania was almost completely Polish influenced as time went on

[thorny steeple]

Fall of Sweden and rise of finno - ugric tribal empire 1200s

[manic juniper]

With their nobility being Polish speaking, Polonised Lithuanians that heavily intermarried with Polish nobility

[sonic lion]

can someone tell me if
I learn russian I might be able to communicate with polish ppl?

or at least czech people

[lament forge]

epicus mute on the way

[thorny steeple]

No

[sonic lion]

fuck

[formal pilot]

During riots miss information or old videos are like last nail in coffin, I've been to in middle of a riot it escalated because of fake videos

[thorny steeple]

Czech is western Slavic I guess, but I don't think it's possible, Polish is more similar to Ukrainian

[formal pilot]

Messiahus mutus

[thorny steeple]

Polish seems easier than russian because it does not use Cyrilic alphabet

[sonic lion]

Is there some politic that’s actually going to work to regulate AI? that’s scary

[manic juniper]

Very barely, it'd be like communicating with an Italian using Portuguese if not worse

[sonic lion]

well, it’s close enough

[manic juniper]

Yes but it doesn't share a lot of vocabulary besides the most basic words

Polish vocabulary is shared with Ukrainian, Belarusian, Czech and Slovakian more

[sonic lion]

you seem very educated in languages, are you polyglot?

[sonic lion]

got it

[manic juniper]

No I don't think I am but I'm familiar with those in Europe

I've seen them side by side or how they are spoken

[sonic lion]

ohh

very cool still

I wish I could live in a cosmopolitan city at least, see different cultures interact

[thorny steeple]

As a Ukrainian speaker, can you communicate with a Pole?

[sonic lion]

Warsaw seems like a very cool city

[manic juniper]

Same to be fair but it's more difficult in the modern world because most people live together and mix, so only one culture ends up dominating

[sonic lion]

Yeah

[manic juniper]

It's difficult, words on their own are easy to understand but Ukrainian is still closer to Belarusian and Russian when it comes to grammar

Polish and Ukrainian are a bit like Italian and French, they are quite different but they share a lot when it comes to vocabulary. Meanwhile for everything else Spanish seems much easier to understand if you speak Italian

However if you know any Slavic language it's not too difficult to learn any other, maybe it's difficult to adjust if you speak Bulgarian because they don't have cases, it's "simplified"

It's commonplace for Ukrainians to easily learn and speak Polish, same for Russians with Serbian

[sonic lion]

Crazy. I thought russian and ukrainian were way more similar

[manic juniper]

In grammar yes, they are closer "genetically"

[thorny steeple]

The scriptures

[manic juniper]

They are East Slavic languages but centuries of political entities existing between Poland, Belarus and Ukraine influenced those languages to share more vocabulary together

[sonic lion]

Btw I heard a person on yt say that there’s some grammar rules that not even russian people could explain to him

[manic juniper]

I think it's a thing for most languages

[sonic lion]

It can’t be that hard but it got me scared

[manic juniper]

Like genders

[sonic lion]

Genders are not that hard

[manic juniper]

In German they follow some rules

In other languages they're usually a leftover from extinct features

The way I perceive genders in Italian is a result of extinct vowel harmony, because they seem to always coincide with words ending in O/I for males, A/E for females

How do you explain to someone like me that a chair is female and a table is male and that I should get it? Or a new word I've never heard before

[thorny steeple]

think of grammar genders as categories or classes. they aren't about biological genders

some African languages have dozens of genders

[formal pilot]

Yeah some countries are working on laws around it, there was guy from open AI he used to raise concerns, apparently he died by suicide few days ago 💀

[manic juniper]

They are, but how do you know their genders if they are inanimate objects or animals? My native language has no genders

Literally if a thing is feminine you add -tar or -tär but that's an obsolete feature too

or articles

It's difficult to grasp articles and why they are always needed

[sonic lion]

I would try to learn some history behind it, but all in all, just memorize it

I don’t think history can explain “why”, just how it ended up like this

And that helps

[manic juniper]

I think it can, there originally was a reason, my headcanon is that it had to do with vowel harmony at least in Italian because they're easy to guess most of the times

[sonic lion]

In german they usually teach the objects and everything already with the gender

[thorny steeple]

Latvia - Latgalians

[manic juniper]

Tavolo (ends with O)→male
Sedia (ends with A)→female
Vincenzo→male name
Lucia→female name

[sonic lion]

African languages are the hardest tho

[manic juniper]

This bullshit gets complicated when some names don't follow the rule, like Luca and Mattia, two male names

Vietnamese man

[sonic lion]

There’s always exceptions

But all in all it’s pretty much like this in romantic languages

[thorny steeple]

Does every city in Finland uses swedish or English names?

[sonic lion]

ends with a - female

ends with o - male

[manic juniper]

Some places don't have Swedish names, some places don't have Finnish names, it's difficult to find place names in Swedish in the East because they always settled along the coast

[thorny steeple]

Like Helsinki - helsingfors y'know

[manic juniper]

If there are over 4%(?) Swedish or Finnish people registered to a municipality then they will have both languages on signs and elsewhere

[feral river]

The power of using nepotism to let you out of my sight if you are my teammate

The power of forcing you to do anything if I’m the man who holding the gun

[thorny steeple]

Sheesh doesn't that causes a headache?

[manic juniper]

Why

[feral river]

How does that attraction can’t be a weapon ?

[manic juniper]

It's just two languages

[feral river]

Everything can be weaponized

[thorny steeple]

True

[manic juniper]

I like reading both because sometimes they have fun names

[thorny steeple]

That's the reason y'know two different languages

[thorny steeple]

Like what names

[manic juniper]

They're very easy to tell apart

[thorny steeple]

Is it like Dutch funny she again

[thorny steeple]

Ofc they are

[feral river]

Well nah your public good were incentivized by capitalists who earn money from that system and rallies those leftists to make free propaganda for them

Without the support of capitalists that’s nothing

[manic juniper]

Osterbotten, it means "eastern bay", related to Vasterbotten (western bay) and Norbotten (northern bay)

In Finnish Ostrobothnia is named Pohjanmaa, it is difficult to translate but it means "northern lands" more or less
There is North Ostrobothnia, it's "Pohjois-Pohjanmaa" in Finnish so it means "Northern Northern Lands"

[feral river]

That doesn’t cost me 3 seconds to reveal all these things out

Lol

[thorny steeple]

Like Norway North way

[sonic lion]

why would you want that?

[feral river]

Because I want to be powerful

That’s quite simple

[sonic lion]

I know, but why?

[sonic lion]

On the surface, yeah, but I’m asking deeper

[feral river]

Because my life would be nice if I was powerful, once I have enough power I do whatever I want

I change what I disliked

If I have power

[sonic lion]

So you want to control people

[sonic lion]

Well, that’s fair

[feral river]

If I can why not

I want to be an absolute eternal supreme leader

If I can lol

[sonic lion]

I thought the same thing

Playing god must be boring

[feral river]

Won’t as quick as you think, abusing power is addictive

[soft wind]

@manic juniper polska dla polakow

[feral river]

It was just like drugs I believe, (I never tried any drugs)

And it’s 100% healthy

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pudzian-polska-gurom-gif-22944047

[sonic lion]

I never met anyone like you, I have to say

[feral river]

I remember the time I abuse my power because that’s at a party and everyone is my friend except that guy who’s messing around of my girl

And I am holding the power in multiple groups have thousand of people currently I can mute anyone or kick anyone I want

[sonic lion]

Villain origin story

[feral river]

Because I have absolute power that does not even required to follow any rules

But I won’t abuse that

And somehow I abuse it in a hinder way

So I would be okay

[thorny steeple]

People when they find out Suomi is Finland be like:

[feral river]

That’s the power baby, once you are person who rules everything, you are the rule

Not being ruled by the rule

[sonic lion]

You’re influencing me to visit Poland

[shy summit]

This is ironic coming from a guy who enshrines a single party system….

[formal pilot]

Invade it

[feral river]

Well yeah why not if he’s abusing power to eliminate opposition

i definitely gonna support that

[sonic lion]

• Said Cersei Lannister

[feral river]

Eliminate all the enemies

[thorny steeple]

Took this picture with your sister @feral river it was a nice day

[shy summit]

Except there’s no opposition to keep the party honest.

[feral river]

Dude that was a brazalian

[feral river]

There is for example Maoists

[thorny steeple]

Habibi come to Germany

[feral river]

We suppressed them in late 2014

[thorny steeple]

I am Brazilian

[thorny steeple]

LMAO

[sonic lion]

Germans scare me. I would visit Austria tho

[feral river]

And liberals we are currently fighting against them in multiple ways

[thorny steeple]

It took too much time to arrange the marriage with your father

[shy summit]

If there is no challenge to the party in power then there you all but garuntee corruption.

[feral river]

That’s how the party works if you don’t have nepotistic power you won’t be in power

That’s for you a form of corruption, but for us that’s the way you can be in power

[shy summit]

Then your government isn’t being run by capable leaders just dipshits who know a guy

[feral river]

And we have selection system to not let anyone stupid comes into the system

[soft wind]

Jokes aside, I think you are very likely to find people with the same sense of fashion as you there. I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe.

[shy summit]

You just said its based on nepotism

[feral river]

And that’s how it works it was efficient

[soft wind]

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-13180585820064250219

[feral river]

Yeah ofc all the party were based on nepotism, including the leader even me

i was related to some party member (we got 99m party member)

[sonic lion]

it sounds delightful, I like the pictorial vibes of Poland

[feral river]

Well my dad was a party member tbh

[shy summit]

Mhm, this explains a lot actually. 🤣

[sonic lion]

Fr

[feral river]

We control everything and why we will screw that out and giving that shit to liberals ?

We will just hold in power

[shy summit]

You literally have liberalism in your governmental system

[feral river]

Well yeah things are changing fast and we are optimizing from selecting good factors in liberalism

And that’s okay

[shy summit]

If you have roads healthcare, electricity or any kind of public good paid for with government funds or government labor that is a liberal facet of governance

Literally almost every government has some liberalism

[feral river]

Well, that’s conservative in China

[sonic lion]

How

[soft wind]

You’re unlikely to find people to match your vocab range, though. 🥸 @sudden needle tell’er

[feral river]

Remember once we are a communist state

[shy summit]

Yes

[feral river]

Liberal in a certain extent = capitalism

Not socialism

[shy summit]

Conservatism just means to ‘Conserve’ what you had before dude…..

To keep things the same

[feral river]

So I’m a liberal, for China

And I’m a de facto conservative if It was in the west

That’s different

[shy summit]

Not even lmao

[sonic lion]

What’s even your political take
Are you even a tankie

[feral river]

Explain.

[shy summit]

The ‘West’ is a big place. Conservative literally means different things depending on the country

[sonic lion]

What you mean? People talk simply?

[feral river]

Well I support any measures against anyone who violates the law openly and disturbing the social order

[shy summit]

Now if you mean socially regressive or socially conservative then maybe.

[sonic lion]

That doesn’t explain a lot. What ideology do you support?

[manic juniper]

I'm an Archeoconservative

[shy summit]

China is a Socially regressive state

In that regard

[manic juniper]

Bring back the ichthyosaurs

[sonic lion]

Lmao

[feral river]

Well I’m sorry I feel like that’s almost the same thing and westerners are somehow having the same concern in different state

[shy summit]

Conservative generally means opposition to new ideas.

‘New’ being everything since the enlightenment

I only half-joke there

[feral river]

Hard to say but I’m a capitalist and I read a lot of marxist book and have some alignment with maoism, stalinism, social-darwinism, and I’m somehow progressive in some fields

For example science, I’m a big support of developing science without control by the social factors

[sonic lion]

Isn’t that a bit contradictory

[shy summit]

Generally it comes from opposition to the development of new social movements.

China is a special case as it’s less that anyone actually gives two shits about it, and more that it could lead to new parties and new values.

[feral river]

Nothing that contradictory

[sonic lion]

Social darwinism 💀

https://youtu.be/wXcS9oD1_i8?si=gvp9tSO8aVnW5jiD

Reminded me of that video

[feral river]

We actually have a lot of movements in before and we suppressed them all

I mean almost all of them

Disappeared very fast under the order of the party

[shy summit]

You’re only proving my point and thus proving the problem

The fact that you can’t see it is both terrifyingly funny and sad.

[feral river]

That’s not the problem, why would we need that if we have a party that runs the movement

Xi’s doing something well isn’t it ?

We have absolute power to promote anything we want

[shy summit]

Exhibit A) of why this political system is a bad idea.

There you go

[feral river]

I just see how it works and I live in there

For almost 22 years

Now i’m in South Korea and 3 days later I’m gonna come back to China

I already booked the ticket I love my home

Nothing really that much bro

[shy summit]

Why do you keep going to SK

What for

[feral river]

Paid vacation(exchange programs)

It’s free why not

[shy summit]

That’s it? Just a vacation? Every two months or so?

That don’t smell right.

[feral river]

Well yeah and it’s paid

[shy summit]

Paid by who exactly?

[feral river]

No I was sticking in this place like on march I get to Cheongju university

And depart from there in June

In July I had my vacation in Japan

And in September I came to Busan

Till now I’m still in Busan

[feral river]

My uni

I’m a student dude

[soft wind]

They are unlikely to use or understand pictorial for sure
But never you mind it, Emma

[shy summit]

Ah it’s that program gotcha

[feral river]

Well yeah and I also have nepotistic ties with my uni officials

So I can get my full grade without doing a thing

I even steal poor subsidies because It was decided by a small group of students with a teacher

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/мда-gif-15258606377206180081

[feral river]

Well that’s just a pocket money for me but

Better than none right ?

[shy summit]

The fact you don’t see the conflicting arguments and the irony is just baffling

[feral river]

Why you think that’s irony that’s the society for us

We all know that fact and that’s how it works for all the time

[shy summit]

Scroll through your messages and you’ll find it.

[feral river]

I see and I don’t see that much and I’m not in a middle of sugar crash to have a conversation even I just finished my meal in KFC

You may think that’s a disease for society and state to have nepotism running everything but China is actually working under this system

It’s even not to mention, feudal system

Probably not so feudal but, kind of

I would say it was under authoritarian rule

For me I’m a freaking middle class what the hell I will against the system that benefit me ?

Ofc if you gonna say the same thing will happen on me in a superiority case that involves me like promotion, I won’t deny that, that’s the game rule

You have to know the game rule before playing the game or you screw it

Survival for the fittest

[feral river]

I just don't see how hard for a Chinese person to accept that we are a nepotistic society.

those people who have nepotistic relations are in one big family, ruling the people who don't have it.

that is our system and we all know this fact, I mean we all know it not gonna lie

[abstract cypress]

However, China is a very effective country, yall have thousands of miles of high speed rail and we can't even make one

[feral river]

well since it didn't create much jobs but increases the burden of the local government..

[long halo]

Which important things we r debating

[shy summit]

Nothing much

Less a debate and more an active display of irony

[formal pilot]

@thorny steeple

[carmine gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-chick-gif-8689915

[thorny steeple]

What the fwack?

[hard bear]

Good morning🩵💜

[cobalt ether]

Good afternoon

[subtle geyser]

Good evening

[fervent marlin]

Good early morning

[misty jacinth]

Good nearly noon

[sonic hazel]

Good morning

[thorny steeple]

Hello ji

[potent ingot]

Hi

[crude widget]

this has become the chat of serious greetings

[thorny steeple]

Good morning

[sonic hazel]

HEYYYY

[thorny steeple]

Hi Lory

[tame radish]

I'm happy that the chick is alive

[thorny steeple]

She is, you only say this because you want to pamper her.

[soft wind]

No u

[fresh bison]

Hellooooo!

[hollow shell]

hello hello

[sudden needle]

tell what

[soft wind]

Never you mind it, u donkee

[abstract cypress]

It's what public transport is supposed to do. In the US local DoTs maintain highways that crack every summer. And I can't get anywhere without a car.

Europe and China in contrast seems to not be controlled by the car lobby, and have greater freedom of transportation

[thorny steeple]

The biggest perk of being Brazilian is naturally understanding Spanish without having ever studied it

The Portuguese and Angolans aren't born with that

[sudden needle]

???????????

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/we-rise-nikke-goddess-of-victory-cosmograph-gif-8839213236100367339

[supple crystal]

When you successfully transfer your soul into a chicken and nobody even notices... x.x

[void arch]

whats the diff between Hit*ler and Napoleon ?

[lunar stream]

What is it?

[void arch]

i think Napoleon should be seen as like Hit*ler to

why ppl glorify Napoleon instead?

[dapper laurel]

Why?

[void arch]

bcz he is also a bad leader and imperialist dictator

[thorny steeple]

Hitler is taller

[void arch]

hhh that a good point tho

[dapper laurel]

Well, at least Napoleon didn't exterminate over six million people based on racial pseudoscience

[thorny steeple]

Though both wouldn't be very tall in today's standards, Napoleon was average and Hitler was above average

[dapper laurel]

They are not two comparable figures, in my opinion

[thorny steeple]

Jews weren't exterminated based off pseudoscience I guess, just some preconceptions attributed to them over history

[dapper laurel]

Those "six million" were not only Jews, then nazis were racial based with jews too, they measured their noses and heads

At least that's what a former concentration camp inmate said when he visited my school

[thorny steeple]

This is phenotype recognition, pseudoscience is using these measurements to establish and categorize races, especially when you give them characteristics based on these factors

Racialism in general is pseudoscience but phenotype recognition isn't

[dapper laurel]

Well, that's what I meant when I said "racial based"

At the time they thought that race depended on phenotype

At least that was the only way to determine it, since there were no modern DNA tests

[void arch]

Some historians, like Claude Ribbe, have argued that Napoleon's actions in the French colonies, particularly in Haiti and Guadeloupe, amounted to genocide. Ribbe's book "Le Crime de Napoléon" claims that Napoleon reinstated slavery and used brutal methods to suppress slave revolts, including the use of gas chambers .

[void arch]

i see the same but, im against the idea of glorifying him with his all bad stuff he did to the colonies

[void arch]

it s not about the amount its about the actions

who tried age of history 3?

[lunar stream]

hitler was a cultured person

a vegetarian

he didnt used to smoke and didnt drink

[void arch]

said who?

[lunar stream]

a bro

lol

[dapper laurel]

He is glorified only by the French or the Italians, but he remains a military genius

[void arch]

he literary applicated "THE PRINCE " book

[dapper laurel]

The only difference between him and Hitler was that Hitler had planned a complete extermination of a category of people, even quite systematically

[lunar stream]

The Holocaust

[void arch]

that's right ... but im seeing more than that if we defined genocide as a partly or global extermination of innocent ppl whatever the amount is, than napoleon is also included with Hitler

[desert nebula]

https://youtu.be/8YTZYDQDS08?si=m9PL_XoBHmEowqIH

[manic juniper]

Those six million were Jews only, the other people are not included in that estimation

They're some millions more

[dapper laurel]

Really? I didn't know that

This makes it even more serious

[manic juniper]

Yes, it's Jews only regardless of origin, Slavs and others are separate

The estimation for Poles are around 2 millions

[dapper laurel]

Oh shit, military losses of Italy were fewer than that, this makes his shit even worse

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but then we could do this reasoning for almost every war

[manic juniper]

Genocide cannot simply be defined as "killing people"

[dapper laurel]

The Italians did this, the French, Germans, English and Spanish, Portuguese, Belgians too. We should clearly make a distinction between the more bloodthirsty military commanders and the less bloodthirsty ones

[dapper laurel]

Yes, a genocide aims at the total elimination of a people or a religious group

[shy summit]

Bro we are not having this discussion again…

[lunar stream]

Hehehe.

[thorny steeple]

👏🏼

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/SFgJIj4mpN0?si=GrrNFH1TTbXTNlK2
Are you sure?

[thorny steeple]

He did, but if we were to exclude every European politician who enforced these brutalities, there would only a few men left

Overall he was great, we have to thank him for easing the independence of Latam countries

And he gave us Le Marsellaise

[exotic jackal]

Hitler tweaking on meth at the 1936 olympics

[sterile goblet]

The Austrian painter 💪🏻

That's why I'm learning German and want to move to Austria

[outer island]

HI can I ask you how can I be a C1 level at english

[thorny steeple]

chat is really serious after seeing this dude

[outer island]

and what free resources I can use

[void arch]

i didnt defined it as that.

[void arch]

in UN definition it mention also its genocide even if it was partly or a few amount of ppl

[void arch]

thats not my point idc if would be only fewer that are seen to be clean.

[void arch]

Section 1091 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits genocide whether committed in time of peace or time of war. Genocide is defined in § 1091 and includes violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

[sterile goblet]

Hitler was running a war not a genocide

there was an equality of power between him and the enemy

[manic juniper]

Peak antisemitism

[thorny steeple]

Truly

[sterile goblet]

That's against me too because I'm semitic

[torpid dirge]

What is simitic?

[sterile goblet]

The term "Semitic" is a linguistic designation, not an ethnic or racial one. It refers to a family of languages with shared features, primarily spoken in the Middle East and North Africa.

Some of the major Semitic languages include:
Arabic
Hebrew
Aramaic
Akkadian
Amharic

People who speak these languages are considered Semitic speakers, but they belong to various ethnic and cultural groups. For example, Arabs, Jews, Assyrians, and Ethiopians are some of the people who speak Semitic languages.

[torpid dirge]

But the term semitic comes from shem ( biblical term )

[lament forge]

so what

[desert nebula]

that was Noah's son according to the Bible

some believes sham(Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan) was named sham after him

[torpid dirge]

Ik that but semitic language? How did they developed as a semitic speaker?

[desert nebula]

and that's where semitic people lived too: Arabs, arameans/Assyrians, Jews (in the levant)

[desert nebula]

i don't get it

the semitic languages are all from the same root, that's why there's many common things between them

[torpid dirge]

Semitic language
basically comes from 1st half of rd millenium BCA.

Include akkadian, ebalaite

And ugaritic, and herbew bible which foundation of Judaism and Cristiannity and islam

[desert nebula]

well ugarit and ebla were in Syria, and the akkadean empire was in Mésopotamia, still in the same region and same poeple but those languages are extinct now

Aramaic and Hebrew are still spoken

[torpid dirge]

And mesopotamia civilization even

[desert nebula]

Monuments exist but languages are no longer spoken, Mésopotamia also adapted Aramaic later and it became the dominant language of the levant and Mesopotamia

i mean akkadean language is extinct

[torpid dirge]

And i have a data also accordingly 2009 study , semitic language is consist originated by horn of Africa , and 800 bc south arabian peninsula( which I have mentioned) ,

But approximately at same time

[desert nebula]

Their origin is still uncertain, I think that's the study you're talking about

[desert nebula]

yeah there were many languages, most of them are extinct today although they contributed in forming the current alphabet of many languages like the Latin and Greek alphabet

[torpid dirge]

Thanks for that I didn't know it

[gaunt bronze]

no one

[thorny steeple]

You need some guidance

[desert nebula]

??

[balmy folio]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

you always see is not always truth see behind the scene

[thorny steeple]

السلام عليكم

[balmy folio]

Walaikum Assalam

[desert nebula]

what's the relation between what's I've stated and what I've seen? if there's smth wrong lemme know 😅but those are just some historical facts

[desert nebula]

salam

[thorny steeple]

Claiming "most of them are extinct" overlooks the fact that many ancient writing systems, such as Phoenician and Aramaic, evolved and persist in their derivatives rather than disappearing entirely.

[thorny steeple]

their contributions to modern alphabets like Latin and Greek wiat

[desert nebula]

.

[desert nebula]

.

[desert nebula]

.

[balmy folio]

I sended you a DM do check it, when you get time

[desert nebula]

What's wrong?

[balmy folio]

I agree with it

[desert nebula]

Phoenician and the Ugaritic alphabet were the base of many languages

[thorny steeple]

they have undeniable contributions in languages

[thorny steeple]

hebrew?

[thorny steeple]

they have less influence

[desert nebula]

the early Greek alphabet was derived from the Phoenician alphabet

[desert nebula]

what?

[thorny steeple]

you speak hebrew?

[desert nebula]

nope

[thorny steeple]

Which language did Abraham and Enoch spoke?

[balmy folio]

Hebrew

[thorny steeple]

got it

[thorny steeple]

how did you got it?

[thorny steeple]

Alhamdulillah

[thorny steeple]

أنت تركي

[inland charm]

I can't read Arabic

[thorny steeple]

Are you from Turkey?

[inland charm]

No. I'm Finnish

[dense agate]

sad, hopefully Hamas is no more after this war

[thorny steeple]

shut

[thorny steeple]

Hindutva

[dense agate]

im not even Asian, but it's funny how you jump to conclusions

[thorny steeple]

you are same as Hindutva trollers

[dense agate]

says something you disagree with = troll

you're 12 or something ?

[thorny steeple]

it’s pretty clear you’re just throwing around labels

[thorny steeple]

way more productive than labelling

[dense agate]

no, i firmly believe Hamas is a terrible group that needs to be removed from it's roots

but here i am against terrorism, something you might be in a disagreement with

[thorny steeple]

it dont matter what you say

what ever you believe its nothing

[dense agate]

yet you're still replying to it

you're even still typing

[thorny steeple]

whatever, you simply dont matter

[dense agate]

sure, you do

[feral river]

that's pretty nice if there's full of terrorist corpses

they sure doing a good job 🇮🇱

[dense agate]

bruuuh

[late jasper]

Hello guys

[fervent marlin]

#💭｜general

[late jasper]

What?

[near ice]

where r u from

[feral river]

People's Republic of China

[near ice]

what do u support palestine or israel

[feral river]

I don't support a country that doesn't exist

[near ice]

i love it baby

[feral river]

and I don't stand with terrorism neither a sympathizer of terrorist supporters

Long Live War On Terror 🇺🇸 🇨🇳 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇫🇷

[quasi needle]

standing with hamas is standing with rape and terrorism
standing with israel is standing with rape and genocide

they are both horrible

the day more people realize that is the day people can stop quarreling with each other over pointless arguments

[feral river]

the arguments started after the money and guns were sent to the battlefields so who cares

[native mango]

a lot of people saying hamas raped while no evidence for that

[quasi needle]

…? no evidence

[native mango]

Yup

Unlike Israel

[feral river]

there will be evidence after the last terrorist of hamas is dead

don't worry about it

[quasi needle]

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/18/evidence-points-to-systematic-use-of-rape-by-hamas-in-7-october-attacks

the guardian is a LEFT wing newspaper, they do not support israel

there are piles of evidence

[native mango]

But that is the opposite of what the hostages said

[native mango]

I have doubts in that actually

[quasi needle]

how come

[quasi needle]

Please cite this

An argument without a citation is meaningless

[native mango]

Wanna evidence?

[quasi needle]

Yes that’s what citation means

[near ice]

boo shit

i stand with palestine

[feral river]

I just..... don't understand why you guys are focusing some stupid shit like did they rape or they do genocide or they attack people or something

[quasi needle]

good for you

[feral river]

I just don't fucking get it

[near ice]

whatever happen

[quasi needle]

Palestine ≠ Hamas

[quasi needle]

What do you mean

[feral river]

this is a stupid war bro a war, a freaking war what are expecting from the things are going to happen ?

why focus on stupid stuff like that

[near ice]

i stand with hamas

[feral river]

literal means bro

[sterile goblet]

I agree

[feral river]

that can't be more regular that some people were dead or being accused like that shit

[native mango]

@quasi needle

[feral river]

this is a war, a war involved both sides determined to eliminate the opposite from the map

[quasi needle]

Hamas and Israel are disgusting and supporters of either side are thoughtless drones. Labeling it stupid shit means you’re just closeted to anything beyond “it’s happening”. I was using it as elaboration to what people are indirectly supporting as a result of supporting any one side

[feral river]

why the fuck are you guys focusing that boring shit nobody cares and it didn't affect the fucking war ?

[native mango]

https://youtu.be/ZIMfc1y59mM?si=2k1igSP3Ms7HXRTM

[sterile goblet]

we should instead refeuse the idea of war in itself

[quasi needle]

……??? Do you think im trying to alter the course of the war by talking here

So many words are saying nothing

[feral river]

dude I don't give a shit if they are using horrible measures to fight against a horrible group in their opposite, can't care less

[native mango]

@quasi needle

[feral river]

this happened all the time in the whole timeline of history

[sterile goblet]

after the war started no matter what is happening

[near ice]

i hope that hitler is alive

[near ice]

agree

he will remove israel from the earth

[feral river]

why the fuck you'all focusing that shit ? that's too weird

[near ice]

yea

[feral river]

you want them death, that's what you wanted, and it fits your interest I can fully respect that

[near ice]

agree w u

[feral river]

but if you gonna say that oh fuck you I don't say that I don't want them die but saying by this way, they should be removed because they did something terrible

that's a stupid ass argument

with a stupid ass excuse

[sterile goblet]

Hitler believed that to make peace in world the world needs only one BOSS

[feral river]

and that's what the current stupid ass argument started for all the time pure bullshit

nobody cares

[native mango]

Too much writing @quasi needle

Just kidding take your time

[feral river]

you palestinians supporters want them die not because they did something terrible but they exists and they are annexing your territory and reduce your autonomy, bomb your ass, and they are at your next door that you live in fear

[near ice]

but jewish is the main reason of distruction in the world

[feral river]

Israelis want them die because they fucking annoying and screw themselves all the time

[native mango]

And you are following media as you are blind

[feral river]

do I really need to demonstrate anything ?

[haughty forge]

hey guys sorry for interrupting, i am in my final year in school and i have suffered procrastination for a long time.
if anyone would like to help me maybe we can study together help eachother become better and push ourselves please dm me

[native mango]

Where are you study

[feral river]

this is a FUCKING war. don't play like a child game thinks someone would care about your value

[native mango]

What country

[feral river]

you are nothing when you are on the ground with your stupid belief.

[near ice]

agree w u

[haughty forge]

Morocco

[feral river]

kill you won't cost more than one bullet and your ideology.

and that's it

[near ice]

neighboor

[native mango]

Sorry I have different books

[haughty forge]

algerian ?

[haughty forge]

??

[near ice]

yea

[native mango]

You are so closemind

@feral river

[near ice]

@feral riverhow old r u

[native mango]

I study in Saudi Arabia

[stone forge]

Ohh nice

[haughty forge]

how old are you

[native mango]

17

[feral river]

so the final word I would say: let them fight till death.

and we will see who will win

the final argument.

[stone forge]

What is your hobbies

[quasi needle]

This is one case and cannot be used to negate other witnesses of systematic rape, UN delegates visited their torture plexes and stated the “independent and verifiable reports of sexual torture and violence that occurred on Oct. 7”

Further citations:

• https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm
• Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181
• Gettleman, Sella & Schwartz 2023: "Meni Binyamin, the head of the International Crime Investigations Unit of the Israeli police, has said that "dozens" of women and some men were raped by Hamas militants on Oct. 7."

I wasn’t writing I was getting links

[native mango]

There is no winner in wars

[feral river]

then lose it.

[native mango]

Dam

[stone forge]

I didn't like war

[feral river]

you think there's no winner ? lose your war, be a loser

and I was determined to use all my resource to win

[stone forge]

War is not necessary

[feral river]

you think it is, but the truth is it happened and it is

[near ice]

i'm sure palestinians will win

[feral river]

we will see

[quasi needle]

that’s not happening regardless

[feral river]

I respect that

[quasi needle]

israel will win because hamas is already nearly crushed

[feral river]

you support Palestine, you want to win, I can fully respect that

[stone forge]

No russia

[quasi needle]

Israel already declared Hamas crushed

They’re ants compared to a lion

[feral river]

and that has nothing to do with me respecting your opposite

[near ice]

wtf u talking ab

[stone forge]

No russia

[feral river]

I respect my enemy and I was determined to kill my enemy

be a real man

[near ice]

agree

[stone forge]

Who will win the war??..??

[quasi needle]

Israel

[near ice]

paleestine

[quasi needle]

Hamas has been reduced to ash

They’ve lost 70-80% of soldiers

[near ice]

when palestine win i'll take ur sister as my lil b*tch

[quasi needle]

Bold claim to make for a minor

[native mango]

I will start one by one link the first is just Israeli government talks about something without mentioning any victims or their names

[quasi needle]

@tough gull please

Not a very kind thing to say about kids

[near ice]

huh

u will see my kid

[quasi needle]

Yes, that’s why I avoided Israeli sources

[feral river]

"you have an enemy ? nice, at least you have your stance" - Churchill

[quasi needle]

Grow up

[near ice]

grow up ur mind dumby

[feral river]

22

[quasi needle]

🙏😭 @sullen epoch it’s widespread

call the one piece movie brigade

meet them with an equal

[near ice]

i like ur way of thinking

unlike this dumby

[feral river]

ty

[quasi needle]

youve said twice that u will fuck my sister, a kid, i dont think u understand what ur own words mean, let alone mine

why resort to name calling and insulting

all i did was say that israel is militarily superior and hamas has lost 70-80% of their forces

at no point was i intentionally disrespectful to you

[native mango]

And i will get you a link by the Isreali police saying that they killed their own civilians https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-helicopter-opened-fire-on-israelis-in-festival-during-hamas-attack-on-oct-7-report/3058257 @quasi needle

[quasi needle]

I don’t doubt that

I am not a supporter of Israel

I just don’t support Hamas either

[native mango]

I'm just responding to the links you sent one of them said hamas killed 1200

[quasi needle]

Well yes

the numbers are around 1000 killed and 250 hostages

Verified ^

Any normal person wouldn’t put it beside Israel to pump that number up though

[native mango]

What I'm saying bro it's impossible for those fighters to rape because it's a big Haram thing to do @quasi needle

Maybe they killed a civilian but rape that's impossible

[quasi needle]

In reality religion stops nothing

That’s like saying because someone has “god first” in their bio they can’t be disrespectful because the Bible said so

[native mango]

I know religious people when I saw them

[wintry pond]

Hello people

How are you all

[quasi needle]

They did it and that has been independently investigated

[near ice]

where r u from

[quasi needle]

Hi

[quasi needle]

England

[native mango]

Bro there aren't any names of the victims

[wintry pond]

How r u brother?

[near ice]

nice to meet u

[quasi needle]

There are no names, but there are bodies

[near ice]

sometimes i'll be mad

[native mango]

Where

[quasi needle]

Great, just got on winter break 🙏, wbu?

[native mango]

ألف سلامة

[fervent marlin]

Israelis raped palestenian prisoners and then protested their right to rape them, they almost had a civil war because of that.

[quasi needle]

Please read the aforementioned articles

[near ice]

fake bodies

[native mango]

Bro you know those newspapers aren't trustable even some of Arabic newspapers

[quasi needle]

Dude

[native mango]

I just trust evidence nowadays

[quasi needle]

You can’t peddle “it’s not trusted” when it’s the consensus with every page I see

[native mango]

Go on

Because you just see the point of view for the same people

You have to listen to both sides

[quasi needle]

• https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-torture-expert-visits-israeli-scenes-oct-7-hamas-attack-2024-12-18/
• https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm
• https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181
• https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/21/october-7-forensic-analysis-shows-hamas-abuses-many-false-israeli-claims
• https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/06/middleeast/rape-sexual-violence-hamas-israel-what-we-know-intl

The final article does mention how multiple released hostages claim sexual abuse during their time

I will leave this here since I have things to do

[feral river]

can't care less and does not affect the war

[quasi needle]

are you this clueless

[feral river]

as long as the war wasn't concluded, this will happen over and over again

[quasi needle]

im not talking to you nor trying to affect the war

im talking to someone to convince them its happening… NOT YOU!

a debate does not need a fuckin altruistic higher meaning

[feral river]

so what ?

[quasi needle]

you’re coming in here saying blah blah it’s not affecting the war!!!!

[feral river]

it is.

[quasi needle]

that’s not the goal bro zip it up

[feral river]

lmao

it is not affecting the war

[quasi needle]

that’s not even remotely what im trying to do

refer to my last 2 messages

[feral river]

then why would you try to convince him ?

isn't that a little bit self-contradicting ?

[quasi needle]

is his opinion going to affect the war? NO! still not what im trying to do

[feral river]

so what you are doing ?

[quasi needle]

as crazy as it may sound, i would like to let someone know…. the truth!

[feral river]

you literally falsified every intention I could guess that what you can do

the truth version of yours ?

from UN ? and some BBC stuff ?

[quasi needle]

the truth of every verifiable piece of evidence, but you can put it that way

[feral river]

even Aljazeera

[quasi needle]

independent humanitarian aid organizations = the WEF world order!

the BBC being an independent regulated centrist organization

[feral river]

I don't see them sending humanitarian aids to Israelis

[quasi needle]

Fun fact

[feral river]

you sure about that ?

[quasi needle]

They are stationed in Israel, because Israel is not letting them cross the border

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

[quasi needle]

Very, the government funds them and grants them charters (the ability to exist) every 5 years. They are the most trusted news source in the country. They are the most centrist in the country. They have to legally remain centrist otherwise they will be defunded

[quasi needle]

What is this trying to prove

The BBC is governed by an independent board and executive

The government physically has no connection to the leadership of the BBC

The board selects its own members and the board selects the governor general of the BBC

That’s like saying because Ofcom exists it’s untrusted

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC

freak

[feral river]

same thing for tiktok

but does that stop americans being crazy on tiktok ?

dude that's naive if you think that corp is neutral

[quasi needle]

What

Are you seriously trying to compare

TikTok users to a news corporation

TikTok isn’t controlled by the government and its users are crazy! That’s the same as…. the BBC not being controlled by the government, that stops it from being impartial, even though it’s legally required to while tiktok isn’t!

[crude widget]

americans have banned tiktok effective middle of next month lol, that will stop them... mostly

[quasi needle]

everything rests on the Supreme Court

i doubt they’ll turn it around

[feral river]

well if you don't know that I can explain well, tiktok has a serious lawsuit regarding to complying survelliance order in mainland China because its headquarter is in China and it made concerns to american politicians so there was a lawsuit against tiktok in america

[crude widget]

i share your doubts

[feral river]

and the truth is, what you have exactly said, perfectly fit on tiktok's situation

[quasi needle]

please can you elaborate

wdym “it made concerns to”

it complained to?

that doesn’t make much sense

[feral river]

and they bring a lot of reports, quote "tiktok encourages kid to suicide", "tiktok removed the content and reduced the content that may not in favor with China's postion"

as you think, does these accusations established with few reports ?