🧠｜serious-chat

[fervent marlin]

They probably wont understand this, the western media is different to the media we're seeing about his crimes and videos.

[ruby vector]

Russia has an affair with Ukraine now they don't need syria they already took what they want

[ruby vector]

True
And I am not going to waste my time explaining

Actually

Even if they know
They can't do nothing so better mind their contriees business

[feral river]

As long as he’s alive in this world, with the mighty hand of the Russians he got a chance to came back but who knows

[ruby vector]

No he can't

[abstract cypress]

Russia is just poor and shit. We managed to handle invading 2 countries halfway round the world, won, and made new governments

Russia can't even defend their puppet dictator, at least when the US army trained the Afghans they're competent enough to fend of taliban for months

[ruby vector]

Minecraft don't waste your time writing such things

[feral river]

Or Russia and US don’t need him anymore I don’t think so he won’t get to Russia if that case established

[feral river]

I’m just telling the truth.

Don’t cry if he comes back

[abstract cypress]

He won't

[ruby vector]

Truth from your pocket

[fervent marlin]

He wont, mark my words.

[ruby vector]

Where's the truth this is bullshit

[feral river]

Lol I will see

Let’s see about that

[abstract cypress]

Axis of resistance, more like axis of no resistance

Hamas ✅️
Hezzbollah ✅️
Assad ✅️

Iran 🔜

[feral river]

Assad was more like not in this league of terrorist regime based on Islamic rule but an authoritarian or totalitarian state that suppresses dissent

And people do escalate the situation and things are going to a full clash which is a civil war between multiple sides

[feral river]

Turkey took a part of their territory established buffer zone, US, Russia interfered, also it creates a nice situation for Israel

Nothing really that bad

That civil war is not going to last I believe and we will see

It can’t be last

[feral river]

Well no I don’t stand with Syrians not talking as a person with common sense, I’m just caring the status of the middle east and asserting that superpowers will keep interfering and make this piece of land which is full of oil with full of conflicts, and it works almost benefit everyone (US, Britain, France, China, Russia)

Btw it will be nice if Syrians just obey the rule but it didn’t happen though

That’s the reason they got a war isn’t it

[ruby vector]

Oh really ?

Seriously obeying the rule ?

Who are u to say that ?

[feral river]

Yeah make no sense right ?

I bet you would think that does not make sense but benefit everyone (5 big powers)

That’s the only way they got besides being occupied or annexed by those superpowers

[feral river]

I know you don’t give a shit but I’m a citizen of one of the 5 big powers

[feral river]

And I care this shit because to a certain extent I fund them to make more operations in this area so

Ofc I hope things will be good in the first place

[abstract cypress]

What is China even doing in syria

[feral river]

US is doing well and I’m investing them and Israel also

China was like a outsider of this area but being impacted with some terrorists coming from these area and we struggle to contain them

That would be good americans will solve them

On this side we are together

[feral river]

Yeah

I fund them for real and i make profit

Im an individual probably not much but im doing so

[ruby vector]

Syria is relying on you Minecraft
They crying cuz you won't fund them again

What a mesriaeble

[feral river]

Well you may misunderstand what I’m saying ? I’m funding the opposite power of them

Lol

[ruby vector]

Yes and ?

[feral river]

Nothing left, telling the truth

[ruby vector]

I can't see the truth
I see showing off behind the screen

[feral river]

I was not capable to determine that you can either feel or see it by yourself, but I just made a statement which I’m telling the truth

That’s just simple

[ruby vector]

Don't waste your time

[feral river]

I’m not wasting my time I’m enjoying it

[ruby vector]

It was better to say nothing about the Syria situation
But being like I know what will happen and it will getting worst
They should obey the rule blah blah
That was stupidity and has nothing to do with what you do in your life

[feral river]

Woah okay if you think so but why would I care ?

Are they my taxpayers ?

[ruby vector]

As an Arab citizen I wish my Syrians the best despite the old and future problems.

[ruby vector]

So butter keeps silent don't show us your hate

[feral river]

I will assure you that region will remain as a battle ground bet with our power supermacy

And we will see

[ruby vector]

And we know that dude

Let us be more serious about the situation than just showing that we are politicians and we can predict the future for Syrians

They are happy and we are so

[fervent marlin]

Trump stated that he wont be involving in Syria, he said "let the people decide their fate", russia also left and didnt interefer in syria so the future may hold things that go against what u said.

[feral river]

not for the SSG lol

[stark crescent]

Heyy

[feral river]

trump stated that he's gonna impose 60% tarrifs on us just last week and guess what he changes it to 10%

don't make me explain their words you gonna see their act

[fervent marlin]

Yeah he likes to make threats to get what he wants but it seems that some powers really dont wanna be involved in Syria, time will tell tho.

[feral river]

he's not qualified to be a politician if he don't even how to scam

[feral river]

that's what I'm saying, we will see.

[fervent marlin]

Yub

[ruby vector]

U.S.A should support Ukraine asap

Waiting for BRICS

[feral river]

baby Trump is going to cut them off lol

[ruby vector]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lmao-too-funny-gif-22030785

[thorny steeple]

He himself signed a lot of sanctions that hindered Asaad in 2019

[ruby vector]

He called him an animal

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_impeachment_of_Yoon_Suk_Yeol

I doubt Koreans need the martial law to solve its problems but thankfully they failed to impeach him

[inland charm]

If Russia invades Estonia then it's not any different than Russia taking over finland

[ruby vector]

Did they declare that?

[inland charm]

No

But they may

They grabbed land from Georgia then Ukraine and I don't think they are planning to stop

[ruby vector]

Do they have problems between each other?

[inland charm]

Nope

[ruby vector]

Oh shii

[inland charm]

Estonian is nothing compared to Russia

[ruby vector]

Mhm i see

And do u think that will happen soon?

[inland charm]

I think that can happen

Because finland is stronger than Estonia

Estonia will probably be an easy target

[ruby vector]

Interesting

[inland charm]

So I was saying we should unite all the strong military countries in Europe and declare a full war with the help of US so that they back off from Ukraine. They are weak at this point it should be easy

If they take over Estonia they will be able to dominate the blactic sea. My assumption. Might be wrong

[ruby vector]

Actually I wasn't aware about this situation

[inland charm]

Ye

Turkish military facilities will be a big help

I don't think Russia will target Finland right now

We're in NATO

But even tho Estonia is in

They're not really in a good position I think

[ruby vector]

Yes I read that it is close to the capital right?

[inland charm]

Very small country

[ruby vector]

I don't think russia can focus on two or three wars, but after dealing with Ukraine, they may start looking for the other surrounding countries

[inland charm]

Yes yes

Baltic sea

If they invade Ukraine they will try to control the black sea completely

It's mostly Turkey's problem

But then I think they will target Baltic sea

[ruby vector]

Exactly

[sterile goblet]

Freedom of Syria doesn't make sense for me I was thinking that US and Russia did an exchange Syria = Ukraine

win win

[inland charm]

Syria isn't completely free

The US backed Kurdish force is there

[sterile goblet]

And they are supporting the resistance Bashar

against*

[inland charm]

No. Russia is in war with Ukraine and Iran is having to support Hezbollah. Without Russia and Iran the Bashar and his force can't survive. Thus they ran away and people of Syria took the power.
Maybe they didn't even try to fight much because how long a foreign force can last against the people without foreign support anyway

[ruby vector]

It is not united yet

[inland charm]

Although I'm not sure how much the rebels fought against the Bashar this time

Russia is our problem now

[sterile goblet]

I think Israel will engage too

[inland charm]

My fav server where I used to discuss the Syria matter banned talking about Syria because the west recognize the rebels forces as bad people and lol saying good about them may cause trouble

[ruby vector]

Yes they will

They already started

[inland charm]

But will they continue the fight with Hezbollah too?

Two fights at once ?

[ruby vector]

That's a total truthful

[sterile goblet]

the mom US are supporting them

[ruby vector]

Hezbollah is concerned with the south Lebanon

And Russia with Ukraine

These were supporting bachar and left

Kurds problem+ Israel

[inland charm]

Yeah but I meant to say if the IDF will keep invading two countries at once? Lebanon and Syria?

[sterile goblet]

Russia and Iran will support HIZBOALLAH

[inland charm]

Endless money

We keep forgetting about China. Big power quietly watching us fight.

[ruby vector]

Probably yes

[inland charm]

Syria is a pretty name. Nice to spell

[mighty zenith]

The Zionist entity entered Syria. Is this true?

[inland charm]

Idk

[ruby vector]

Yes joulane

In war

[inland charm]

The US backed Kurdish force already has oil rich places

[ruby vector]

The oil will make the problem

[inland charm]

Sounds like a demon that gets inside others lands and commit massacre

I think that's a conspiracy theory

The rebels were preparing and they hit when two supporters of bashar were weak after war

[sterile goblet]

there is no peace with israel

[inland charm]

Let's see what happens. A treaty means nothing in today's world.

[fervent marlin]

Yes through the southern border of syria

[inland charm]

They literally fought with cars made in backyard

[sterile goblet]

Israel is aiming to conquers

[inland charm]

They were supported by Turkey not by USA

[sterile goblet]

Syria is a great strategic place for US

[inland charm]

I never heard anyone saying anything about USA's involvement. I heard them talking about Turkey

[sterile goblet]

US is the biggest terrorist

[inland charm]

Anyway byee. I'll be back when I get back home

[sterile goblet]

it depends on the situation

[inland charm]

I'll have to check it out

[sterile goblet]

that what I was talking about it's wired they must did some kind of deal behind the scenes

my Idea is that US made a deal with Russia Ukrain IN order of Syria

Russia will not give up this easly

we are twins lol

all the middle east conflicts are just Russia and US war

but the US are a step ahead because it mades the Israeli state to take all the plame in the face of the world

official terrorism without lomits

I play chess and chess pawns have a self-respect more than our leaders 😂

of course because Assad was a Putin pawn

thats true and in the future will take control of it using Israel

[abstract cypress]

It's funny because we don't think about Syria at all

Maybe Israel did, but Assad brought this upon himself

Meanwhile the rebels are flying Turkish flags 😂

Middle east destroyed itself

[sterile goblet]

please put feelings down

Trump don't give a f*** about Ukraine

[abstract cypress]

Mhmm and what did the arabs do before we went there? Bomb each other out to hell

Saddam attacked Iran, saudis attacked Yemen, syria attacked lebanon, and everyone attacks Israel even before we bailed out Israel - it was the British and the French that helped them win Yom Kippur and 6 days war

If America was never there arabs would nuke each other nonetheless

[sterile goblet]

and the US came for peace wow

[abstract cypress]

no

I mean, the US started wars, but so did Russia, Turkey, and Iran

So we're just doing what everyone does

btw the syrian rebels are funded and backed by Turkey

Bush was a hypocrite yeah

[sterile goblet]

peace, Russia, USA, Isreal DON'T put those words in one phrase

[abstract cypress]

Indeed

[sterile goblet]

It's all about US and Russia

[abstract cypress]

No. We sold weapons to Iran. Ever heard of Iran-Contra? Reagan almost got impeached

Again, the arabs would've bombed each other and everyone, so the fact that America and Russia piggy backed on them is just, idk, opportunistic, you can call it

[sterile goblet]

and don't understand why a person defend US or Russia ... They all shit

[abstract cypress]

So did the soviets ... they sold weapons to everyone

And saddam wanted the war so

If someone sold you a macbook and you used it to hack a hospital then it's still your fault, no?

[sterile goblet]

wake up to reality there is no peace in this accursed wrld

[abstract cypress]

I honestly don't care about cold war propaganda. If it were up to me America should leave the middle east entirely

[abstract cypress]

☝️

My government did. So did Saddam, Iran, the Soviets

All leaders are war criminals too if we look at it

[sterile goblet]

agree

[upper peak]

Then what country is best for humanitarian?

If not US

[abstract cypress]

If America never went to the middle east someone else would replace our role and bomb people all the same

UK and France quite literally made israel and kept them alive until the end of the cold war, America was not involved heavily with it till then

[sterile goblet]

There is no friend and no enemy only shared benefits

[abstract cypress]

Only one, Iraq 2003

middle eastern countries made the rest themselves

[inland charm]

"if I don't steal your house, someone else will"

[inland charm]

I don't agree with you

Also I don't agree with your tactics

[sterile goblet]

In the history you read that development of humans because of the desire of killing each others lol

[abstract cypress]

keep disagreeing with facts

[sterile goblet]

not by themselves they got a support

[abstract cypress]

And what war is it?

[sterile goblet]

from big powers

[inland charm]

When I ask Americans about the ethnic cleansing of the natives, they try to justify it by saying the natives were at war with each other. You may take the rule from the natives and establish a government but the problem here is that, Americans decided to kill every native. They also looked at it from a racist point of view. That's the problem. They dehumanize people and kill them in some of the worst ways

[rose eagle]

That's democracy

[sterile goblet]

why Americans engaged in the first place

[abstract cypress]

"America baaaaad!!!"

Yes. America is bad. But you see, you're bad guys too. Let's see how the syrian civil war ends, none of the factions got American support, except for the ~500 people on the far southeast corner of the Syrian desert.

Will you scream Turkey bad and Iran bad now that both countries are treating Syria like a battle royale game

[inland charm]

They may justify it by saying it was the old time of invasion

[abstract cypress]

Where are you from?

[sterile goblet]

no the want peace 😂

[inland charm]

Finland. What about you?

[abstract cypress]

Mhmm, I bet your ancestors were angels when they crusaded against pagan slavs and balts, or burned people for being the wrong religion, or burned women for trying to make medicine

[inland charm]

Also for your information, the natives were not at war and as I know two tribes were extremely rich

[inland charm]

No they are not angels. I do not justify their actions I condemn it

[sterile goblet]

and RUssia

[abstract cypress]

Dw I regularly donated to the richest tribe in America. You can find them in the florida guitar hotel

[inland charm]

Lol

[abstract cypress]

Yes, so are the hands of russia and whoever else it is that profits from war

[inland charm]

Do you know how those tribes were removed from their land ?

[abstract cypress]

But you're enjoying the benefits. If your ancestors didn't butcher people there will be no Finland.

[abstract cypress]

Do you know how there's a literal language family around the baltic sea that is now extinct because your catholic and protestant ancestors killed them all

[inland charm]

We're Europeans. I don't recall killing natives in Finland

Catholics and protestants were at war. Again, I do not justify anything

You should also not justify. You should condemn

[abstract cypress]

Lol this is extremely ironic

Look up the baltic crusade and european witch hunts. And the european wars of religion

No country is free of bloodshed

[sterile goblet]

we are out of the topic we was trying to understand what is happening rn in Syria not fightin about who is right or wrong

[inland charm]

If you're American you are a part of this history too

[abstract cypress]

Yes, I condemn ethnic cleansing. But it happened. That's enough to address it.

[thorny steeple]

There was the same justification from the Spanish, the difference is that both the Spanish and the Portuguese had children with the natives instead of cleansing them. This has to do with how Northern Europrans saw race. Whereas Iberians mixed with Arabs and other folks throughout history, Americans saw this as degenerative.

[inland charm]

Yeah and do not support another ethnic cleansing then

[abstract cypress]

As I said no country is free of blood. So you can very well tell that to everyone

[inland charm]

We have changed

We're not in the dark age anymore

[sterile goblet]

natives are wrong idea the natives also killed the old natives to take the land

[inland charm]

It's time to leave the past behind

[abstract cypress]

But you're in NATO 😂😂

[inland charm]

Yes so?

Do you think the US owns nato?

[thorny steeple]

Very few people were killed during "witch hunting", the period terror in the French Revolution killed much more than it did. This is just a protestant exaggeration.

[inland charm]

We are putting our own money in NATO

[sterile goblet]

mostly

[abstract cypress]

NATO bombed people and you're paying taxes to fund it?

I mean, so is russia and any other country, but this comes as hypocritical

[inland charm]

No we are not animals

We don't kill our autistic or weak children

We are humans

[sterile goblet]

hitler was right about somthing

the world should have one strong leader

[abstract cypress]

Tell this to Your grandfather who massacred russians in the winter war

The world isn't a fairly tale. It's full of bombs and guns

[inland charm]

Yeah and I blame the USA for pushing us into their wars

[sterile goblet]

USA don't own NATO but its more powerfull than NATO

[inland charm]

War but not ethnic cleansing.

[abstract cypress]

Your government is the one who asked to join btw

[frank flame]

Is it about Syria? I am reading in confusion since I'm not really a politican

TvT

[abstract cypress]

I mean they practically cleansed every russian kid who picked a rifle, hundreds of thousands of casualties

Your first prime minister is also close to Hitler

[frank flame]

Ah, but I wanna see people's opinions (tho I might not get the reason fully)

[sterile goblet]

read and think by your own mind dont believe everything you watch

[inland charm]

You're looking at two Europeans blaming each other for the history they both share

[abstract cypress]

then tell your leaders to make your country stronger so america and russia can't tell you what to do

[frank flame]

I can see that (T-T)

[sterile goblet]

popcorn and watch bro

enjoy the show

[inland charm]

I mean I'm not blaming him for European history. Just telling him not to justify any more ethnic cleansing and illegal wars

[abstract cypress]

where are you from

[sterile goblet]

It's the jungle low brother

[abstract cypress]

oh well, your king can thank the British for his throne, and he wants Americans there to prevent people who wants to topple him from doing so

[dapper laurel]

Hello, what's going on here?

[sterile goblet]

Is Austria will be safe in the Short future at least 😂

[sterile goblet]

War

[dapper laurel]

What war? Or about what?

[sterile goblet]

And the jungle itself

[sterile goblet]

War in general

[abstract cypress]

Next this guy will somehow blame Americans for creating his country, the fall of the ottomans, and every middle eastern war dating back to the mongols

[frank flame]

Just goofy question but where do you think might occur war next?

[dapper laurel]

And what did you conclude?

[sterile goblet]

Iran

[sterile goblet]

The responsible

On the wars

[frank flame]

why?

[abstract cypress]

Jordan is a small ass country with 0 oil and natural resources except for sand, there is nothing the US or energy execs would gain by making a civil war there.

Your king is there because of the British though, and he's scared as hell because Syria and Iraq used to have kings too, they were couped, and look how both become now. So naturally he begs America and Europe to save him. So again you can blame your own people

[sterile goblet]

Nuclear weapons

US don't like that

[frank flame]

Even tho US used to use it?

[prisma cipher]

Only they use it in real strike

[sterile goblet]

The idea of Iran developing those weapons is not good

They should stop them

And Iran also a bestie of Russia

[abstract cypress]

America already has the gulf states, which are rich and infinitely more powerful than yours, it's just your king doesn't want to see his tiny kingdom fall apart to a hellhole like Syria did, so again you can protest him.

[dapper laurel]

On what basis is it decided whether it is good or bad for a country to develop nuclear deterrence?

[thorny steeple]

America

[dapper laurel]

Is there an ethical criterion? Or just convenience in the end?

[frank flame]

Like a way indirectly affect Russia? you mean?

[thorny steeple]

If America likes it, should be fine
If not, must be a threat to humanity

[dapper laurel]

Well, America has no right or power to influence the freedom of others to decide

Or we can reach an agreement to ban nuclear weapons

[thorny steeple]

What world do you live in
It has no right and that never mattered but it is the world hegemon

[dapper laurel]

Well, the problem is that they are no longer hegemons, otherwise they would have prevented North Korea from developing nuclear weapons

[sterile goblet]

Nah bruh its not good for US of course

[sterile goblet]

Russia already have the nuclear weapons and if Iran also did it will be a huge threat for US

[abstract cypress]

Some fools you are then to willingly become the devil's minions

[manic juniper]

Sweden colonised us from 1150 to around the late 15th century, the Sámi got the shortest end of the stick: their languages were almost completely eradicated and their culture was reduced to almost nothing

Even after our independence both Sweden and Norway didn't stop restricting our culture and language in Finnish majority regions like the village of Kistrand and Torne Valley

[manic juniper]

Lol this is absolute bullshit, Finnic and Baltic people were the last pagans left. Slavs already had their own majority Christian States like Kyivan Rus' and Bulgaria

As a matter of fact the last pagans left in Europe are a Finno-Ugric people in Russia, the Mari people

[shy summit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War

There are worse out there than the US

China Russia North Korea.

[ruby vector]

All of them the same

one is working directly and the other indirectly

[humble lion]

So i have smthn to say

There are plenty of muslims who support marriage of girl in ages of 12-18 and this is considered pedophilia according to US laws and discord laws as well

Why are not they banned

[uncut tiger]

Wdym I would like to marry at 16

[humble lion]

And still using dc

[ruby vector]

• their own government

[humble lion]

Lively example

[uncut tiger]

12-18 is a bit of an exaggeration

Definitely not 12

[humble lion]

Okay 15

Point still stands

[uncut tiger]

Can you make it 16

[humble lion]

Main point

[uncut tiger]

If you do that I'm in

[humble lion]

There is

[sterile goblet]

As a Muslim I agree

[humble lion]

Y3mi its not about muslims and stop attacking and think abit. Im talking about the fact that its considered pedophilia by US laws

Man

[uncut tiger]

Wdym pedophilia a 16 yo is marrying a 16yo

Who's the minor here

[humble lion]

Why eachone understands diferently

[sterile goblet]

It's about the culture of the nation in Algeria in 70s it's normal to marry a 13 and up

Now it's not

[humble lion]

Both

[uncut tiger]

Then that doesn't count as pedophilia

[humble lion]

Bruh do u believe marrying at 16 is normal? Yes u do but at the same time u are against the laws of dc and yet u use it

[uncut tiger]

Marrying at 16 is my preference, I don't have any concern with it being normal or not

[humble lion]

Ye but this app works and obeys the usa laws and makes decisions from those laws

[uncut tiger]

And you can't say in pedophilic

I'm marrying someone my age

[humble lion]

I dont but u are against dc laws

[sterile goblet]

They are brain washed

Islamphopia

[humble lion]

U mean me?

Jssddjdjdjddjdjjdjdjdjdjdjd

[rose charm]

Not all Muslims marry at the age of 12. But sadly, I've seen young girls who were married at that young age. This should be banned indeed.

[uncut tiger]

What law of discord says a boy can't marry a girl

[rose charm]

My friend at school was married when she was only 13 years old.

[humble lion]

Nvm guys its my fault to talk here u guys keep attacking without understanding

[sterile goblet]

Anyone believe the media 100%

[rose charm]

Girl marriages at a young age.

[sterile goblet]

Take multiple information from different resources and make your own decision

[shy summit]

LMFAO WHAT?!

[humble lion]

Whether it should be banned or not irl is a diff matter but according to USA laws any muslim that supports marriage of -18 is pedophilic and pedophilia is banned on dc

[shy summit]

They’re way fucking worse

[rose charm]

This happens a lot bc of poverty and lack of education.

[shy summit]

They literally treat not only other countries but their own people like shit

[ruby vector]

Exactly

[rose charm]

Omg

[humble lion]

What u saying madam

[sterile goblet]

Where's the f### voice message icon I wanna talk

[humble lion]

No

Speak with respect or shut up kid

[sterile goblet]

What is your definition of under age

[ruby vector]

Yeah I know u can't understand

[sterile goblet]

Your under age not like ours

[uncut tiger]

@humble lion can you explain to me how am I against discord TOS if I am married to a girl at 16 with her full consent

[humble lion]

Ur name is representation of ur attitude and mind

[forest patio]

lets ban aland

💀

[humble lion]

Fine this is another case im talking about a man +18 marrying -18 girl simple

[uncut tiger]

But that doesn't happen

[humble lion]

U support it or no?

[sterile goblet]

Why should I follow US lows

[humble lion]

It does happen coomonly

[uncut tiger]

I support 19 old man marrying 17 year old woman

[uncut tiger]

Whats your proof for that

[humble lion]

U agree to dc terms before using it dont u

[uncut tiger]

No I just scroll down and click accept

[humble lion]

What

[humble lion]

So u agree jdhddhdhd

[uncut tiger]

Do you have anything to back your claim

[sterile goblet]

I will not marry 14 yo in discord don't worry

[humble lion]

Yes bro yes many countries omg

[uncut tiger]

What's your source

[sterile goblet]

US according to me are Oldpholia

[sterile goblet]

Because they are allowed marriage of people obove 40

[forest patio]

bcuz ban aland

[fervent marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-suspense-eating-popcorn-waiting-to-see-what-happens-gif-1791560479908558440

[formal pilot]

What's cooking

[forest patio]

imagine an uncle of 30 y o, marry a girl that is around an age of his potential daughter, lets say 12

[sterile goblet]

Stop this shit let's talk about something really important like Syria

[sterile goblet]

The same idea 50 marry 30

[forest patio]

yes but 30 y o women has completd character development, independent, have experienced and in comparison ready mentally

12 y o kid is going out, playing barbies with her friends in garden

both must be..

[formal pilot]

Is this discussion about Medieval morality vs modern morality?

[sterile goblet]

My grandma was 13 and my grandfather was 17 when they got married

[forest patio]

same but prolly mine was around 14

[rose charm]

The difference is like day and night. A 12 year old girl doesn't have the maturity or the awareness of a 30 year old woman.

[forest patio]

and no they didnt get married, she got kidnapped first

[sterile goblet]

They raise a family without any problems

[forest patio]

then got married

[forest patio]

yes

[formal pilot]

@fervent marlin

[rose charm]

What has changed, may I ask?

[forest patio]

in terms of

[sterile goblet]

America decided that

[fervent marlin]

Hmmm idk tbh, the guy who initiated the debate left, but I think he was opposing child marriage under 18 saying its p3dophilia

[fervent marlin]

Yeah the more you live the more knowledge you gather and the more chiseled your mind becomes in certain ideas, it has benefits tho to find a partner early in life maybe 20s because you grow in the same direction

[formal pilot]

I mean based on our current knowledge in science and human body it's bad

[sterile goblet]

Nope not at all actually it's the opposite

[fervent marlin]

You mean to be with a partner early in life is bad? A lot of people do it outside of marriage and enter relationships at an early age like 13 in the west I find it weird no one talks about it

[formal pilot]

Na i mean becoming a mother in young age is really bad and unhealthy

Compare to in 20s

[fervent marlin]

Yeah I think it is, but you can get married or go into a relationship without having kids first, do you think its ok if you dont have kids

[forest patio]

what question

[formal pilot]

Depends on type of marriage, if it's a conventional marriage were women are supposed to have kids within few years of marriage like in middle eastern countries or asian countries in general, it's bad

[forest patio]

i agree to some extend, but i do believe that there is a factor here that should be taken into consideration, whether the "kid" has given her consent or not
its a decision that would affect her afterall

before, i guess this chance wasnt even given to the girls, they d jst marry them off

and it is also questionable that whether a given consent of a "kid" must be supported

[fervent marlin]

What I hate most about modern marriage is that if u want to be with a partner u need to open a house etc etc...
Where it would be much easier if it was like relationships where both parties just get together and build themselves and stay together while staying in their parent's houses

[formal pilot]

Non forced teen marriage is just a normal teenage relationship with extra paperworks lol

[forest patio]

when they have barely experienced anything in life

[formal pilot]

And you can always get a divorce

[fervent marlin]

I think if both parties want to be together, they should just be together and with time they grow and build their life up, thats better in so many ways.

[sterile goblet]

Because you defined them as kids

[fervent marlin]

lmao

[forest patio]

ee, it is cuz they ARE kids

[formal pilot]

You can search for a women with similar mindset, don't need to change whole modern marriage lol

[forest patio]

i mean is this an agreement or disagreement

[fervent marlin]

Very hard to find in traditional middle easter countries lmao cuz parents are always 100% involved

[formal pilot]

Yeah that's how it should be, unfortunately most of the time extra forces are involved to make 2 parties tie a knot

[forest patio]

wtf is marriage in this economy and fcked up world 😵‍💫

[fervent marlin]

idk i think we made it too complicated atp it should be easier and more simple

[forest patio]

just continue enjoying ur legos

[fervent marlin]

Yeah, it is beneficial to a certain degree cuz parents do protect cuz of the experience they have and make sure their daughters are taken care of but also its kinda annoying how parents are involved in it too

double edged sword i think

[sterile goblet]

If you want marriage hurry up before they raise the under age to 100 yo

[forest patio]

the end is near...

[formal pilot]

Do you have any source to support this claim that they might raise it to 100 years?

[fervent marlin]

I dont think it will rise more than 18, people's life span is already not that long and its staying constant so I dont see it rising anytime soon. Also life before was much simpler than it is now it makes sense it is 18

[sterile goblet]

That's what they want us to think about
Divide and conquer

[forest patio]

yes, thats right

[fervent marlin]

I think hes exaggerating that before it was ok to get married at less than 18 and they keep rising the number

[formal pilot]

Yeah generally a young person doesn't know what they actually want in a partner, and best way to find it is to date lol
Date em all and select the one which suits you

[sterile goblet]

It's the Americans bro they just what they want and we should accept it

[fervent marlin]

Yeah lmao im not gonna lie I learned a lot about girls (and ppl in general) from interacting with them online without that I wouldnt be able to know lots of things
experience is much needed

you gotta taste apples to know which ones are bad and which ones are good

[sterile goblet]

You mean free sex for man Nice 🙂

[fervent marlin]

I mean both are getting it

[formal pilot]

They have enough evidence to support this lol, in that age you should learn about the world and yourself so you can be a good parent

[sonic hazel]

[sterile goblet]

Translate to them please

[rose charm]

Don't bother yourself trying to get them understand; they're not going to change their minds.

[forest patio]

they are men after all... || i love to trigger ppl,||

they will only understand after they have their own daughter

that even,maaaaybeeeeee

[sterile goblet]

I'm against calling a sexually mature person kid

Marriage age I said it's decided by nation

[fervent marlin]

They need to be mature all around, mentally and physically too..

Choosing a partner needs mental maturity not only sexual maturity

[sterile goblet]

Now of course they will not because we convinced them that they are still kids

[forest patio]

what i said was crystal clear

[fervent marlin]

Is it pure conviction and beliefs or is it actually maturity? I think its the latter.
The more you live the more you gain knowledge and u need that to not make a wrong choice when choosing a partner

[forest patio]

true

[rose charm]

Yeah totally

[sterile goblet]

But let's all agree that Indian guy was talking shit right

I don't either

[rose charm]

What made me laugh tho was when the other guy said that women aren't like they used to be so don't marry them when they are still young... as if women were born solely for marriage and raising kids!

Both young girls and parents are much more aware of the consequences of getting married at a young age.

[forest patio]

ii generalized on purpose to trigger, but ngl its majorly true

[fervent marlin]

?t

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

What’s the worst movie you have seen recently?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[rose charm]

Yeah I was talking about you

[sterile goblet]

John wick last part

[fervent marlin]

I dont watch movies tbh

[ashen mortar]

serious chat not seriousing :)

[fervent marlin]

we need a topic

give us one to discuss

[forest patio]

hi jack,lets unserious this chat

[sterile goblet]

Agree

[forest patio]

even more

[fervent marlin]

[forest patio]

guys pizza or burger

[sterile goblet]

Laughing emoji must be not allowed here

[azure brook]

burger

[fervent marlin]

Pizza ngl

[ashen mortar]

😂

[forest patio]

i had burger two days ago, so pizza it is

[fervent marlin]

Real it should be banned to preserve the seriousness of chat

[forest patio]

u lurker

[ashen mortar]

[forest patio]

lfg

[azure brook]

i ate it yesterday and ate pizza today

[forest patio]

afiyet

[ashen mortar]

why ryan gosling is literally me

[azure brook]

tsk tsk

[ashen mortar]

@fervent marlin topic

[forest patio]

arent u from india

[fervent marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[formal pilot]

Yeah lol

[forest patio]

imagine ryan gosling living in india having butter chicken masala, that d look somehow cute

[formal pilot]

Are you paying for it? 💀

[sterile goblet]

Seriously I can't find the voice message input here

Help please

[fervent marlin]

You dont have perms then

u need lvl 20 i believe or 25

[rose charm]

Omg why did you bring this up now? I'm so hungry 😭

[rose charm]

Yea i tried to find it but no luck

[sterile goblet]

I'm still under age 😂

[forest patio]

where are u from, i ll treat for u if any of us visit our countries

[azure brook]

btw how can i check my level

[fervent marlin]

/rank on #🔗｜bot-commands
choose the probot one

[azure brook]

got it ty

[fervent marlin]

np

[azure brook]

i guess i can use voice message bc of the premium

bc im not 20

[fervent marlin]

yeah premium and boosting gives u the role

[azure brook]

got it

[carmine gorge]

Karim bhai

[fervent marlin]

[formal pilot]

Shawarma

[carmine gorge]

Jus calling u bro
Is that wrong

[azure brook]

[fervent marlin]

U saying this everywhere is concerning

[forest patio]

dont try to eat things u wont be able to digest

[forest patio]

next time shawarma it is

[carmine gorge]

Ok not calling again
Im sry

[fervent marlin]

Np baldat bhai

[formal pilot]

Apparently I'll get unbanned

[azure brook]

probably

[ashen mortar]

workout and make body

[formal pilot]

Back then i used to eat mud yk

[forest patio]

restaurant is closed for thief looking suspicious people

[forest patio]

mud??

[formal pilot]

Soil

[forest patio]

why

[formal pilot]

As I kid I've put plenty of questionable things in mouth

[forest patio]

was it due to iron deficiency

[formal pilot]

Na just random curiosity

If you want to learn about something, eat it

[forest patio]

😭 sounds fair

[formal pilot]

It doesn't work with maths, i learnt this the hard way

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/broob-broseidon-smitty-gif-24263466

[tidal oar]

Ayaka

[desert nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/dabke-halay-wedding-dance-middle-eastern-gif-20925349

[desert nebula]

Ayato lol

[tidal oar]

Hru queen

[desert nebula]

I'm so happyy wbu

[tidal oar]

Me fine too

https://tenor.com/view/ayaka-story-trailer-ayato-kamisato-ayato-ayato-genshin-kamisato-family-gif-25427873

Where r u from

[desert nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaka-kamisato-ayaka-genshin-impact-kamisato-inazuma-gif-22343711

[desert nebula]

Syriaa and you

[tidal oar]

Indiaa

[desert nebula]

nahi namaste chup hai

[tidal oar]

Wot

[weary belfry]

woah

[tidal oar]

Chup hai means silent

[weary belfry]

is it?

whats mean chup

[desert nebula]

I'm speaking Hindi

[tidal oar]

Yes

[desert nebula]

oh yeahhh it's shut up they told me

[desert nebula]

cool right

[tidal oar]

But I could not understand that mistake

[desert nebula]

That was random words or to be more accurate all the words I recall in hindi gkgkfkkf

[weary belfry]

i was told it was a level above shut up

[desert nebula]

Really 😭😭no it sounds cute chup chup chup

[tidal oar]

Say that again

[tidal oar]

Yep lol

Chup queen

[tidal oar]

Like u can use shut up like in way angr
And quietly shut up
It's the same CHUP in anger and chup quietly

[sterile goblet]

finally the chat is serious

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/hatkiddo-cat-chilling-gif-19885483

[rose charm]

How many times have you guys said 'shut up'?

[prisma cipher]

I say khafe sho

[rose charm]

Whose frog is that in your pfp?

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-stare-confused-gif-15159954538870174797

[prisma cipher]

🐸

[unique light]

Hi guys

how are we?

[sterile goblet]

to any who is tired of admins and bans I created a server I'm the only admin no one will get banned i believe in freedom of speech

[rose charm]

Frogs gross me out

[unique light]

nobody is getting banned here chill bruv

[sterile goblet]

i can count 10 people

[manic juniper]

Getting banned here is difficult

[unique light]

lmaooo

[manic juniper]

A guy called me the N word and he didn't get muted even

[unique light]

N word? Wtf

Was he blind?

[manic juniper]

Yes I'm pretty sure it's still up, let me search

It wasn't even removed

[sterile goblet]

he should banned of misusing it

lol

[prisma cipher]

Because it nothing wrong with that word.

[unique light]

Hi ruzzian

[fervent marlin]

Probably no mods in chat when this happened, N word gives insta ban

[manic juniper]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

Check this out

[manic juniper]

I even called the mod, he investigated and he even threatened to ban me instead

[prisma cipher]

T

[fervent marlin]

What 💀

What did u do

[manic juniper]

I told him something about getting a pacifier

Not even an harsh insult

Gotta finish my work now

[quasi needle]

what level of insecurity do you need to threaten to ban over that

[sterile goblet]

they don't know how to discuss with people
take everything personally

[unique light]

brit in the chat

[fervent marlin]

Damn i got deja vu

[quasi needle]

yes

[fervent marlin]

[sterile goblet]

i already have a warning

[thorny steeple]

hmmm

[ashen mortar]

this is boring chat fr
nothing serious

come on

[sterile goblet]

?topic

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

What was the most important appointment or deadline you missed?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[ashen mortar]

everything

[sterile goblet]

my final year project as student

btw any ideas of web application

i wanna something creative

[ashen mortar]

make discord

clone

[sterile goblet]

they are developing discord since 2015 i have just 4 months

and average experience

fun fact DISCORD means disagreement between people.

[dapper laurel]

In fact the only thing people do here is argue

[sterile goblet]

That's true we should discuss instead to learn from each others

[ashen mortar]

only in serious-chat

[ashen mortar]

e commerce

you can't go wrong with that

[dapper laurel]

I saw arguments even in the gc

But they are chill after all

[ashen mortar]

baseless arguments

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

Is teaching a skill that can be taught?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[spice estuary]

right is this server about english or can u speak 1000 other languages

[uncut tiger]

You can speak Yiddish and English and Arabic only

[spice estuary]

what

[manic juniper]

Idk apparently it was an offence equal to the N word

[uncut tiger]

Yay isfrun getting banned finally, I am free to share my opinions without inviting unwanted critique

[dapper laurel]

A person should expect criticism if his opinion is questionable

[thorny steeple]

bruh so immature

[uncut tiger]

Jk my opinions align with isfrun except about religion

[spice estuary]

@delicate wolf

[thorny steeple]

Hey any Indian friends here

[spring zephyr]

Kaha se ho?

[thorny steeple]

BHUVNESHWAR

[spring zephyr]

Ahh kay. Here for learnin English?

[thorny steeple]

Nah just timepass chatting

[ruby vector]

Namaste

https://tenor.com/view/नमस्ते-प्रणाम-रामराम-smile-namaste-gif-15355724

[spring zephyr]

Imposter.

[ruby vector]

Oh no !

Nahi nahi

[hushed crow]

Hello everyone

How are we?

[sterile goblet]

hey

[sterile goblet]

we are bored

[hushed crow]

Omg it's u?!

Dr house?!

[smoky pagoda]

[sterile goblet]

I'm famous

[hushed crow]

I'm so glad to see u here! How are u feeling?

[sterile goblet]

thanks I'm good

[hushed crow]

Wow.... I'm happy for u

Do I want to start some debate?

[sterile goblet]

please do

[hushed crow]

About what do u want to talk?

Do you have a topic?

[sterile goblet]

no i don't

do you have any suggestions

[smoky pagoda]

At your house

[smoky pagoda]

Bible oppersses women

[hushed crow]

I know

[smoky pagoda]

Yes that's the topic let's talk about it

[hushed crow]

Do u want to talk about it?

[smoky pagoda]

Yes

[hushed crow]

Well

Do u believe in the Bible?

[smoky pagoda]

First of all Bible saying shave the head of those women how don't cover there hairs

[smoky pagoda]

Nope

[hushed crow]

Well me too, And I don't agree with the statements in the bible

[smoky pagoda]

Yea good

Also Bible doesn't allow inherentence women can't Inherent if any men is present

Like his brother or husband will get everything nothing to her

[hushed crow]

The Bible itself was written by men who have oppressed women throughout history

[smoky pagoda]

Fr? How explain a bit

Didn't know about that

[hushed crow]

Well... At least it is very likely, because as we know from history women have always been housewives who were forbidden to learn to read and write

[smoky pagoda]

Oh 🆗

Yea true

[hushed crow]

In addition to this, in my opinion, the Bible is written very strangely and it leaves many questions

[inland charm]

Oh

[smoky pagoda]

Welcome

[hushed crow]

For example, if a girl was created from a man, why then don’t men give birth and create people?

[smoky pagoda]

Lol

[inland charm]

Very funny question

[sonic hazel]

Well, for those who live and follow what is written in it, nothing is a burden. A weight.
And as for not being allowed... It depends more on the place and the culture of the time than on the prohibition of the Bible. That does not exist anywhere in it.
Whoever wants to believe, believes. It's that simple.

[hushed crow]

Why should we believe in the existence of some man in the sky? Where did he come from? Why does he need us? What is all this for?

[smoky pagoda]

He doesn't needs us

What you saying lol

[inland charm]

That's Jewdiasm

[hushed crow]

Yes! THEN why should we pray to him? For what? Is his ego so low?

[smoky pagoda]

[inland charm]

It is

They talk about a man

We don't

[smoky pagoda]

Bruh cuz he created you imagine you creating an ai and it doesn't listen to you

[hushed crow]

A lot of religions are believed like we have some people in the sky and when should to pray to this

[smoky pagoda]

You need a fix up

[inland charm]

Don't mix other religions with Christianity

[smoky pagoda]

And clear up your ideology

[smoky pagoda]

Yea fr fr

[smoky pagoda]

Bro he needs nobody the creator is independent from anyone from his creation

[hushed crow]

Well.... We somehow made sure that ai would obey us, why can’t he?

[smoky pagoda]

Lol cuz that be unjust

This life is a test

[hushed crow]

Beta test

[smoky pagoda]

Where is the test if he forces you to change your mind and all

[hushed crow]

I was a great sinner in my past life

Or whatever it's was

[inland charm]

We are sinners

[smoky pagoda]

💯

[hushed crow]

And if there is reincarnation of souls, where did he get all this souls from? Why are there so many different races? Why does each race or region have its own different god?

[smoky pagoda]

True

[hushed crow]

Yep

[sterile goblet]

so what we are talking about

[inland charm]

He made us different so that we can learn from each other

[hushed crow]

About bible and God

[smoky pagoda]

True

[verbal mountain]

here we go again

[smoky pagoda]

Lol

[hushed crow]

This doesn't answer all my questions

[verbal mountain]

yo how are you

[smoky pagoda]

Good

[inland charm]

I answered that question from Islam btw

[smoky pagoda]

Good

[inland charm]

And about the other questions

[sterile goblet]

I'm a Muslim so I believe in both

[hushed crow]

Maybe

[smoky pagoda]

Yea both what?

[inland charm]

I know the source.
About the other question, they are simply following a wrong path.

[hushed crow]

Where did he get all these souls from? Why don't we accept blacks and women if we are all his creations?

[inland charm]

Beg your pardon?

[smoky pagoda]

I don't understand the question as well

[inland charm]

He is the source of everything. It makes no sense to ask where He gets the souls from

[smoky pagoda]

Can you have recognize good without Evil?

[inland charm]

Everyone is equal in front of our creator

[smoky pagoda]

In front of the creator

[sterile goblet]

bible and God

[smoky pagoda]

Yea right Jesus Christ PBUH

[hushed crow]

Why is it that only humans have a division between good and evil if in nature a mother can kill her child and humans consider it wrong

[sterile goblet]

and Jesus peace abone him as a prophet

[inland charm]

Orthodox church and the catholic church differs a lot

[smoky pagoda]

Jesus as a prophet and Christ means messiah BTW Christ means messiah so it's Jesus Christ PBUH

[smoky pagoda]

He's a Muslim

[sterile goblet]

God created the universe and put a low for it

[hushed crow]

Why does patronage always and everywhere exist in nature, but in humans it is prohibited in some book? Why?

[sterile goblet]

if u don't know swimming you will sink rather than you are a believer or not

[sterile goblet]

sorry i dont understand your question

[quaint moss]

Why should i see plastic flag in serious chat?

[smoky pagoda]

Huh

[inland charm]

I'm back

[smoky pagoda]

https://muslimlantern.org/
Ask your questions to him he'll answer

[smoky pagoda]

Actually I'mma go good night

[quaint moss]

Free plastic😔

[sterile goblet]

Welcome back

[inland charm]

Gn

[quaint moss]

They are doing genocide in plastic😔

[inland charm]

"SDF" opens fire on demonstrators in the city of Maskanah in the eastern countryside of #Aleppo.

[sterile goblet]

Against who

[graceful current]

Foolish SDF acts

[inland charm]

I found this news from a server I trust. They probably got it from telegram groups. Please fact check everything before you trust it

[sterile goblet]

The content of the video is matching the title

[proven ember]

Hi everyone

[sterile goblet]

Hi

[brittle elk]

Admin

[whole beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-wth-confused-huh-what-gif-6154003038879814

Lemme guess
R u sort of an admirer of the sassanid empire
And u have anger issues and resentment towards the arabs because they conquered the empire

[quaint moss]

I support truth and i dont care about your opinion about my history .
Im not angry btw its just lunatic for me the way people put plastic flag and then they come into serious chat

[whole beacon]

Plastic flag!!
Idk wat u mean

Any way
Thnks for the answer

[unique light]

wtf is this chat

[whole beacon]

Bears chat

[unique light]

no

https://tenor.com/view/seal-gif-4116136003380109286

[quaint moss]

Well you said those stupid stuff about sassanian when i said plastic flag so it seems you actually got my point

[whole beacon]

They were mere assumptions

Im still lost

U just sound, hmmmm
Agitated

[quaint moss]

Well the way you wrote those things about sassanian it seems you are the one who acts like that😁

[whole beacon]

Okay im stupid im agitated im dumb

Wat does plastic flag stand for ?

[unique light]

stop this shit guys, let's talk about why seals are better than bears

[manic juniper]

They're closely related

[unique light]

To otters

[manic juniper]

To both

[quaint moss]

🇵🇸

[manic juniper]

Maybe to otters more

[unique light]

We love otters and other seals

[quaint moss]

Plastic

[whole beacon]

Go hibernate plz

[quaint moss]

😂

[unique light]

nah pal

[manic juniper]

Free Western Sahara 🇪🇭

[whole beacon]

Oh so i was right after all
Me no dumb

[quaint moss]

Well it seems you got burned

[quaint moss]

Free free plastic

[whole beacon]

Like the sassanids in battle of the chains

Or the capital

Ctesiphon

[quaint moss]

Abululu
Pirouz nahavandi😁

Farkhan😁

[whole beacon]

Wat r those?

[manic juniper]

I prefer the Parthians because they came out of nowhere and they were barbarians

[ruby vector]

Hmmmm

[whole beacon]

Romans hated parthians

[manic juniper]

The Sassanids were better organised

[whole beacon]

Heavy armed and military advanced

But they got wiped out

By khalid and his armies

[quaint moss]

Pirouz nahavandi😁

[manic juniper]

Their chain of command was replaced

Happens when you're caught in crises and civil wars

[prisma cipher]

Did you play Celeste?

[void arch]

sword of allah

khalid ibno lwalide

[manic juniper]

I didn't but I completed Rift Apart now

[whole beacon]

No neither the persians nor the romans were accustomed to hit and run tactics of the arabs

Arabs would gallop and out flank them easily

[quaint moss]

Sword of allah got killed by a hit in ass🫠

[quaint moss]

Omar🫠

[whole beacon]

He died in his bed

[quaint moss]

🤣🤣

[whole beacon]

Dude wat r u saying?

[void arch]

a brave man never afraid of death

[whole beacon]

I knew it
U have anger issues

[quaint moss]

😔

[whole beacon]

Appreciate history, however it is

I appreciate the mongols , even tho they wiped out the abassid caliphate

[quaint moss]

🤣🤣

Oh my god
He says i have anger issue and he supports mongols

[void arch]

i hate the fact they destroyed the library of Baghdad

[quaint moss]

Got my answer now😁

[whole beacon]

Okay guys we have a child here

Alert

[prisma cipher]

Congrats

[whole beacon]

Me going now

[quaint moss]

That makes us happy

[whole beacon]

Lets vc sometimes

[void arch]

are u from persia

[quaint moss]

Nope people like you are a lot and im tired of facing people like you

[whole beacon]

Hmmmmmmmm

[manic juniper]

Deserved

[quaint moss]

We can have debates

[quaint moss]

We always did it you know.....

But still you got no point i guess

[whole beacon]

History debates

[chilly seal]

Helo

[quaint moss]

Im more into religious debates

[chilly seal]

What your name

[whole beacon]

Ooooooooow
Not my cuppa tea
Sry
I would talk hours about the persian empire

[void arch]

i hate that , erasing cultures art and science is not a good thing to do

[whole beacon]

Arabic /roman

Mongolian

But not religious convos

Yikes

[quaint moss]

Im tried of proving you know
In religious debates i have more power to show the right path

[whole beacon]

Proving me ?

[quaint moss]

Nah dude i said it in general

[manic juniper]

Do you mean that a fuming pile of ashes isn't art? There is beauty in destruction as well

[sterile goblet]

@manic juniper she didn't

[quaint moss]

Im tired of proving , you know

[void arch]

he is a believer

[whole beacon]

Ow 😂😂😂😂😂 aaah funny
Well nice to talk to u. Well not exactly.
Unpleasant experience

[void arch]

u ve a point but irrelevant to what I'm pointing out to

[manic juniper]

It was their turn to be destroyed 🐌

[void arch]

habiby syria is free

[crude widget]

🐌

[manic juniper]

Imagine having all that science yet you can't save yourself

[sterile goblet]

Not fully free

[manic juniper]

I'm one of the Fives. If I get banned there will be a great tumult

We already proved our voices to the higher powers when Minecraft_652 was silenced

[void arch]

when we destroyed empires we went towards political system and powers ,but we kept many scientific advancement ,art and proper culture thats not against islamic teaching ,just the example of keeping the use of Greek coins in palestine and Syria after their conquest

[void arch]

free from the oppressions of that leader

[sterile goblet]

But they will put another pawn

[manic juniper]

What happened to the Egyptian language

[fervent marlin]

They already have I think

[void arch]

from what i know ppl start using it freely as it was a obligation not a forced decision

[inland charm]

Noo. Destruction of knowledge is not good in any possible way. That knowledge was very very valuable

[whole beacon]

Like vikings purging Europe
Oh thats goood
Or romans burning Jerusalem
Ooh ART

[inland charm]

Also the mongol invasion was very bad

They destroyed so much

[manic juniper]

Yes, the Vikings didn't do wrong, they even strengthened and improved Palermo making it the largest city of its time

[whole beacon]

I never saw someone saying burning cities is art.

[manic juniper]

It is

[whole beacon]

Ask the brits
They disagree

[manic juniper]

Once they are burned down buildings get replaced

[sterile goblet]

There's no freedom for meddle East
They need to be a great power by themselves

[manic juniper]

Vikings legit improved England, Danelaw was better and more egalitarian than English laws and customs

[whole beacon]

WAR IS ART
-insfru Tzu-

[fervent marlin]

Its gonna be hard to break free from the chains of the big powers but it'll be interesting to see what'll happen in the future.

[whole beacon]

Yeah ur right @manic juniper

[inland charm]

I want to stay on your side in debate. Do not support violence

[manic juniper]

I'm not supporting violence, just destruction

[inland charm]

You will get banned if someone reports you so delete that text

[whole beacon]

God the romans would make u an Augusta for just saying this

They love it

[manic juniper]

The Danes should've kept England 🇩🇰

[inland charm]

That is also violence. They killed many people during that time.

[whole beacon]

I am da mod
And thats nothing tbh

[inland charm]

Banned from discord I mean

[whole beacon]

Im just repeating isfrun words

[inland charm]

Goodnight guys

[whole beacon]

U got a point

Thnks

[manic juniper]

Everyone's hands were dirty back then

[inland charm]

It's better to be safe I think

[inland charm]

No

We cannot support the mongols

[manic juniper]

It's true, how do you think Baghdad became that rich and powerful?

[manic juniper]

Pax Mongola tho 💅🏻 the streets were safer and the Mongols were less corrupt than the Arabs and Chinese

[void arch]

whatever one day time will change and power will switch as it is from the past

[manic juniper]

They replaced their nepotistic militaries with meritocratic ones

[inland charm]

I don't know. But they were not like the mongols. And we cannot support them. Their destruction of the library was very sad. Imagine the number of books we'd still have if they didn't do it

[whole beacon]

Okay i love the mongols
I mean comon
They took out unborn babies from their mothers wombs.

Thats art.

Notice : this is sarcasm

[inland charm]

I don't believe it

I think that is false information

[sterile goblet]

I hope that happens soon

[inland charm]

Mongols were extremely violent

[manic juniper]

Read about the Eight Banners military structure

There was nothing meritocratic there

[whole beacon]

Oooh less corrupt
Is that why they lasted for sooo long.
Excuse me
Where do u get ur history info
Nail slaons?

[inland charm]

This cannot be true

[manic juniper]

Why do you think Baghdad fell so easily, they were not the same power they used to be

[whole beacon]

Mongolians literally fragmented into civil wars

[void arch]

how ur present would be if the Muslims didnt defeat the mongols

[inland charm]

Gn

[manic juniper]

There were plenty of powerful successor states, that's like saying that the Romans had no successors after the empire was split

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't be affected because Mongols never marched that North

[whole beacon]

Romans lasted for 1500 years. Yes
Mongolian tho
150 years 😐

[manic juniper]

Mongolia exists, Rome is a city

It's not even fully controlled by the same State

[whole beacon]

Rome is a city!

[manic juniper]

Which one is the true Rome? Italy or Vatican City?

[whole beacon]

The state controlled the empire

[void arch]

they could have done that bcz they reached Ukraine and Belarus

[manic juniper]

No because there were too many trees, they only reached Ukraine because of the Pontic steppes