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[cursive bobcat]

Word: israel

Definition 1 (noun): Jewish republic in southwestern Asia at eastern end of Mediterranean; formerly part of Palestine
Definition 2 (noun): an ancient kingdom of the Hebrew tribes at the southeastern end of the Mediterranean Sea; founded by Saul around 1025 BC and destroyed by the Assyrians in 721 BC

Definition requested by dagemer1234

[magic bridge]

Then he got mad because people started thinking I was his alt

[smoky pagoda]

[smoky pagoda]

Well I would have definitely hated you if you would have done anything like that

[true lark]

I dont think it's hate worthy

Hate is a strong word

[smoky pagoda]

Don't put your thoughts in my mind lmao

[magic bridge]

Not sure about hate but not on best terms with

[smoky pagoda]

Everyone has different definition of the word hate and love and like

Mine is different as well

[smoky pagoda]

Well obviously

[whole yacht]

What means lmao

[smoky pagoda]

@worldly elbow

[whole yacht]

Pls tell me

I'm getting curious

[formal pilot]

Is it injured?

[manic juniper]

It's trained

[formal pilot]

Looks like beaten up

harpy eagles are majestic

[manic juniper]

I like the Andean condor

[formal pilot]

Which bird would you put on top of favourite list

Dayamm I'm chatting like a 5 yro

Arguably the best

[manic juniper]

Difficult to say, I like the secretary bird, the hoatzin and the kea, maybe the seriema or the roadrunner would win

Or maybe it's the purple needletail

[manic juniper]

No one:
Literally no one:
The elephant bird in Madagascar: alright time to get giant

[formal pilot]

I can see a trend here

[formal pilot]

Lmao they were too big

[manic juniper]

The hoatzin and the purple needletail stand out

I like the hoatzin for the appearance and exclusive features, the purple needletail makes me proud

[formal pilot]

Sometimes I feel bad about Pachystruthio, no one care about it, we all only care about elephant bird and moa

[manic juniper]

The most slept on literally lived alongside dinosaurs, Gargantuavis

[whole yacht]

Why it makes u proud

[manic juniper]

I don't know what it was exactly but it must've looked like a bird

[formal pilot]

Lemme Google

[manic juniper]

It's one of the fastest birds in horizontal flight

[whole yacht]

This chat is literally filled with boring person 😭😒

[whole yacht]

Dead chat

[formal pilot]

Wannabe Utahraptor

[manic juniper]

Polite

[manic juniper]

It wasn't trying lol the place where it lived was strange

[formal pilot]

Imagine being slow and flightless in era of monsters

[manic juniper]

It must've been kind of fast to survive where it lived

[whole yacht]

How do know about everything thing

[manic juniper]

Its main predator likely would've been Hatzegopteryx which is a superpowered version of the Quetzalcoatlus or Arambourgiania

[manic juniper]

Don't know, I say a lot of things and I hope that some of them are right

[whole yacht]

Yo girl do u study in Harvard

[formal pilot]

I can't imagine a bird with megafauna status in that era, it's too good to be true

[manic juniper]

Well it lived on an island, that's why

A giant island that is but an island nonetheless

[whole yacht]

Do u have a boy friend

[manic juniper]

No what's that

[whole yacht]

Is he ain't bored from u

[manic juniper]

At least I'm not the one repeating the same thing

[whole yacht]

I think you are psychopath

[manic juniper]

Didn't ask

[whole yacht]

How do you know everything

[whole yacht]

Are u topper of ur class

[formal pilot]

But they found fossils in France, how's it even possible to be isolated

[whole yacht]

Nahh

[manic juniper]

Because it was Hateg island, it was an island made of random pieces of Europe

[whole yacht]

It's ur father ithink

[manic juniper]

Nvm I found your profile

[formal pilot]

Let's be respectful here, it's serious chat

[whole yacht]

Ohh nice

[whole yacht]

Ohhhh

[manic juniper]

https://www.instagram.com/anmol__singh97

[whole yacht]

U just take my I'd from my bio

[manic juniper]

You're not old enough to use Discord

How old are you?

[whole yacht]

But I'm bored

[whole yacht]

15

[formal pilot]

Alright i found it

[manic juniper]

There were weird beings on that island

[formal pilot]

It was Australia before Australia

[manic juniper]

There were 3 giant pterosaurs and the largest was the size of a giraffe

[formal pilot]

With wings spanning 30 ft eh

I'm expert now after watching prehistoric Planet

[manic juniper]

Did you watch the entire first season?

[formal pilot]

Yeah it was 5 episodes only

[formal pilot]

Last night i being watched 2 ep lol

[manic juniper]

Watch the second season

I believe it's the one with Simosuchus and maybe Beelzebufo

[magic bridge]

After the japanese empire got defeated we realized we could not Achieve world domination by conventional means So we created anime

[manic juniper]

It should have created anime before the second world war in order to win

[whole yacht]

Do u guys watched stranger things

[regal nimbus]

”should”, but wasnt

[formal pilot]

Ngl i was waiting for Utahraptor the entire time, I didn't find mammals living alongside dinasaurs which made me feel offended

[manic juniper]

It's because the series focuses on the very latest Cretaceous, Maastrichtian

All of these species likely lived to see their own demise

[formal pilot]

Someone suggested it to me, that's why I never watched it 💀

[manic juniper]

Same

Utahraptor is from the Early Cretaceous

Tyrannosaurus is closer to us than Utahraptor

[whole yacht]

But its too good

[manic juniper]

I hope they'll make a similar series but on the Permian

[whole yacht]

Meaning of utahraptor

[formal pilot]

Still I'll never watch it and Korean dramas (I got a history with it)

[manic juniper]

Who forced you

[whole yacht]

It's not a k drama

[formal pilot]

Alright I'm not good with timelines

[formal pilot]

Welp it's really stupid

[manic juniper]

It's difficult with some species

I mean with extinct animals

It's not like the current world where everyone knows that kangaroos live with dingos

You have to remember who they lived with until the ecosystem changed, and some groups persist so it's not helpful (but you have to remember which ones did too)

[magic bridge]

🗾

[formal pilot]

During teenage love era someone broke up with me because of a stupid k drama, apparently in that drama the main character got separated to become successful

💀

[manic juniper]

So you watched it to discover the secret of success?

[magic bridge]

Korean drama pails in comparison to Chinese brainrot

[formal pilot]

Hell na i was watching it with her

I'm not into stupid things, I'd rather watch a documentary on killing babies

[formal pilot]

Still it was suggested by someone multiple times

[whole yacht]

Then watch breaking bad

[formal pilot]

We're literally warms with personality

[formal pilot]

Already did lol, it was good

[whole yacht]

Yoo

Then watch the boys

[formal pilot]

I'll put Narcos above Breaking bad

[whole yacht]

Where is that psychopath girl

[formal pilot]

Let's be respectful, she got a smart brain

[formal pilot]

Already did (1st season)

[manic juniper]

I would put Archeotyris instead of Hylonomus, that was an actual reptile

[manic juniper]

There was also a specific placoderm that could've been used there

[formal pilot]

Just noticed Neanderthals a human ancestor

Yeah this chat is just for eye pleasing

[manic juniper]

I don't understand why not all mammals have pouches

They seem to be useful

[manic juniper]

Or it could be descriptive of features, it seems alright for that

It's correct for the most part if not wholly

[formal pilot]

To carry iphones? Lol
If you have pouches you'll give birth to really weak offsprings

[manic juniper]

But is that an intrinsic features? Can't you have a fully developed placenta and a pouch?

[formal pilot]

Yeah just for that, for evolution it's completely off

[manic juniper]

To be fair for evolution nothing would work unless it's for humans only

And even there we aren't 100% sure that Australopithecus is our ancestor for example

It would be indicative "Yeah we think this guy looked like our ancestor but likely wasn't it"

[formal pilot]

Do we have any animal with a devloped placenta and pouch?

All Mammals do have pouch, it's internal

[manic juniper]

I don't think so, all marsupials have a placenta but it's not as developed

It just seems so convenient for mammals such as rats or cats

[formal pilot]

Atleast we have a remarkably good fossil records for modern horse

[formal pilot]

Yeah can't imagine an elephant with pouch

Do you think technology will become part of human evolution

Like how In old days we develop diff new features just to throw stones

[manic juniper]

It already is but I don't know how much more it'll influence us

For example will it really make us significantly weaker? People still value appearance

[formal pilot]

Technically by not accepting Ai generated assignments we're slowing the process of evolution

[formal pilot]

I mean modern world did make us weaker

We might be the best at fighting bacterias and viruses then our ancestors

But physically we're weak

We've explosives so we aren't weak

Ffs I'm confused

[manic juniper]

Physically we are weaker but not that much

If we have to be as inversely weak as our technological development then we'd basically lose against cats

[formal pilot]

Do you consider modern day humans are significantly stronger in terms of overall strength than our ancestors

[manic juniper]

Physically?

[lunar ivy]

No, nowadays, people have better nutrition than in ancient times, and taller.

[manic juniper]

We are weaker, at least compared to some like Cro-Magnon with absurdly thick skulls and bones and that had to fight actual beasts instead of a deer

[formal pilot]

Well in overall strength physically, resistance to antigens, mental strength

[manic juniper]

We are much more resistant to diseases at least according to what I've heard, our communities are bigger and people from smaller communities simply got sick and died when they met Europeans

[formal pilot]

Yeah evolution did favour the tall individuals

[manic juniper]

As for physical strength Cro-Magnon humans had cool guy sunglasses incorporated

Look at that skull, it looks solid unlike ours

They'd be proud of Brock Lesnar

[formal pilot]

There's no visible joints

[manic juniper]

Yes even Neanderthals didn't have them I believe, they were fully ossified and sutures disappeared

Like it should be for any adult megafauna

People that survived probably were weaker and consumed less resources, maybe they were more dependent on berries or practiced some limited form of agriculture already

There still are people that live like that, they are not much stronger than we are

It's not the same as fighting giant sloths, straight tusked elephants, big cats

[formal pilot]

Goddammmmit it's strange why evolution favoured us

Back there we were weak af

[formal pilot]

Mark on this skull reminds me of a UFC fighter

[manic juniper]

Still unclear

I wonder if it was the wave of mass extinctions that basically bulldozed our path in advance or if we did this ourselves

[formal pilot]

I never understood the concept of mass extinction, sounds like a scam

[manic juniper]

With giant theropods where would've been no way we would've succeeded, our specialty was being a fast ground ape with good stamina, all raptors were fast with less effective stamina but much more efficient since they didn't use water unlike our sweating

[formal pilot]

Some say our ability to create imaginary stories and creating large communities helped us

[open plover]

No doubt

[manic juniper]

Some of them are a very clear thing, external forces so powerful that there would've been no easy way out for most of life

If anything they were a lot more common than we think

[formal pilot]

Give me some examples of that kind of force

[formal pilot]

And he survived lol, sucha badass

[manic juniper]

The most well documented that we have is K-T, the meteorite partially hit land and it was massive, travelling at high speed. Had it landed in the water there would've been a lot of damage but not even remotely as much as it did on land, other than the many instantly vaporised beings nearby the heat wave killed a lot more and the ashes and fire covered the skies, polluting it and darkening the Earth, causing acid rains and interrupting or heavily hindering photosynthesis

If we start from here it already sounds like a massive, worldwide problem

I hate how the stupid meteorite couldn't land in the water, it was close to simply landing in the ocean

[formal pilot]

KT occurred 66M years ago and experts say it wiped nearly 75% of species, if it was mass extinction why haven't we found enough fossils from that spesific time

[manic juniper]

But we did, you mean from right above the K-T boundary?

We found survivors even such as Borealosuchus (based)

[formal pilot]

We only found nearly 1500 species of dinasaurs including avians

[manic juniper]

Oh that's very normal

Not only were the temperatures higher and the environments more productive (like modern jungles and forests, that aren't good for fossilisation at all) but there is fossil bias towards large but not extremely large animals with thicker and more robust bones

If all fossils were preserved equally as well without any bias there would be an overabundance of plant and insect fossils, crustaceans and algae in the oceans. But I guess that you know why they don't fossilise as easily

[formal pilot]

Well yeah this is a good point to debunk a mass extinction denier (me)

[manic juniper]

https://youtu.be/XFpwz_TZZZk
This is about the extinction and it's one of the best videos I've seen on the subject of K-T

[manic juniper]

After the mass extinction itself we are supposed to find less fossils because reproduction was lower, so right above the boundary there isn't much already

But you'd still find the same animals, there is also the issue of the cataclysmic event being likely to move around the fossils and creating a mess

This video doesn't mention it maybe because it's very controversial, but there was an hadrosaur fossil they found that was very far into our epoch

[formal pilot]

Alright I'll make a stronger argument to deny mass extinction using Ai

And some research

[manic juniper]

Lol

Unfortunately it's difficult when it comes to mass extinction in particular

There is just too much evidence for the Big Fives

As for the others, scientists didn't even know that they existed or that they were mass extinctions. The reality is that they are way more common than we think

It's also not difficult to imagine even for a creationist that our world would be just as fucked had these events happened today

[formal pilot]

I'm not denying them, I just can't wrap my head around it's effect

[manic juniper]

Man this is the most pathetic Pokémon farming I've been through since I started playing

These Pokémon have ridiculously low IVs, basically shit genetics

[formal pilot]

[manic juniper]

As for the asteroid just imagine nuclear war but worse

[formal pilot]

I can't imagine a disaster so big it can wipe nearly whole planet

It's unfathomable

[manic juniper]

The others are more difficult to imagine because they're not things we experienced or not on the same scale at all. But everyone nowadays likes to imagine the nuclear apocalypse

[manic juniper]

In my case I can't imagine how life survived at all

I can imagine turtles but how can a 5 metres crocodile still survive with so few animals around? Even if they eat so little

Or insects that pretty much had no flowers left

[formal pilot]

That's what I'm saying, mass extinction is just a scam

It's like believing in god

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borealosuchus

[manic juniper]

I believe in god (Borealosuchus)

[formal pilot]

I'd pay to watch mike Tyson pronouncing Borealosuchus

[manic juniper]

If you are interested in the weird effects of mass extinctions you can try and see if you find studies or descriptions of these animals: Moschorhinus, Lystrosaurus and Archosaurus

It was especially evident with Moschorhinus, its growth and maturing patterns were fucked after the mass extinction

These 3 lived through the same mass extinction

[formal pilot]

I'll look at every animal that survived mass extinction and compare them with extinct once

[manic juniper]

Moschorhinus stuck around for a while despite all that happened, but it didn't get through unscathed which is sad

If I'm not mistaken it grew much faster but only at ⅓ of its original maximum size

[formal pilot]

Alright lemme Google it

[manic juniper]

It belonged to Therocephalia, the synapsid group closest to ours (Cynodontia)

[formal pilot]

Horseshoe crabs are true badass they survived multiple mass extinction

[manic juniper]

And always in the same form just through changing size

[formal pilot]

I hope humans will be able to end the streak
/S

[manic juniper]

If they even did

[formal pilot]

Yeah they're true worriers

[manic juniper]

Now crocodilians are like that too unless the temperatures are too low

Ngl I kinda hate reptiles for what they did to the last(?) temnospondyls

[formal pilot]

What's the difference between Therocephalia and Cynodontia, they look exactly the same

[manic juniper]

I don't remember exactly now, Therocephalia had much larger skulls relative to their bodies but that's not a synapomorphy ngl. Usually the groups closer to Cynodontia had progressively more open postorbital fenestrae, it's that hole we have under our cheekbones

Now I don't remember if the hole was fully open in Therocephalia and Cynodontia or if only Cynodontia did, it's even possible that gorgonopsids already had a fully open postorbital

[formal pilot]

Apart from size I can't find any difference

[manic juniper]

The early therocephalians looked like gorgonopsids, but over time they seem to have convergently developed features with cynodonts such as losing ossification in the postorbital bar

The postorbital bar is the one that separates our eye sockets from postorbital fenestrae basically

[formal pilot]

Alright i found a good comparison picture

[manic juniper]

Also I believe that cynodonts never had sclerotic rings, those bony rings that reptiles often have. Therocephalians certainly had them

[manic juniper]

What's the name of the lowest one? Do you know?

[formal pilot]

these 3 groups of synapsids survived the end permian extinction Dicynodonts, Cynodonts, Therocephalias

[manic juniper]

Yes

Despite the name dicynodonts were more distantly related to the other two groups

[formal pilot]

Alright

I'll work on my argument

It's enough of discord

[manic juniper]

Therocephalian lore unlocked

[formal pilot]

Invite me to that debate server

[manic juniper]

I'm not part of it anymore because it was way too edgy, I think it was called Politics and Religion

Expect to be called the N word or receive rape threats

[formal pilot]

I'm familiar with it, I was looking for this server since 3 months

[manic juniper]

You can probably find an invite link on Disboard or that other Discord server browser

[formal pilot]

There's a guy, halal Muslim he's prodigious with logical fallacies

[manic juniper]

There is also Blue Politics, the civilised counterpart. I can invite you to that one but it has a different tone

[formal pilot]

Wtf

[crimson compass]

hi all, i would like to improve my english speaking skills. indian. programmer. anyone interested ping me.

[formal pilot]

💀just send me the link i don't know how to find servers

I'm too boomer to be on discord

[manic juniper]

I'll send on that chat we have with Minecraft

Let me browse first

[formal pilot]

I left the server after a heated argument with Minecraft

[formal pilot]

Send it on #🔗｜bot-commands

[formal pilot]

If you want to work on speaking abilities I'd suggest join VCs, they're best, you'll also find good partners for it

[manic juniper]

Done

Do you want Blue Politics as well?

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

Sounds good

[thorny steeple]

hey

what's going on ?

[manic juniper]

It's public too, go on bot commands again

There is a powerful atheist there named Clark

He once destroyed the lowly mortals on P&R and then he left

P&R also had the most well studied Christian ever conceived and the most extremist Muslim I've ever met too

She openly justified death by apostasy

[formal pilot]

Alright now I finally know how to search for a server

[rich thorn]

i feel left out, so many believers among my group.

[manic juniper]

You can only search for public servers this way

If you want to search for servers on your own you have to try on sites such as Disboard

[formal pilot]

💀 I'll definitely enjoy the place

[manic juniper]

I think that she, too, left

[formal pilot]

That's what I just did, i couldn't find any place to search for server on mobile

[manic juniper]

She was a true extremist but she became more open minded over time, she initially thought that Sufism was Muslim wannabes getting high together but then started to appreciate it

[formal pilot]

Went on browser, searched it up

[manic juniper]

She wasn't Muslim born either

A Russian born of two Russian atheists

[formal pilot]

💀

[manic juniper]

She complained about failing to convert her parents

[formal pilot]

Scariest white with scariest religion

[manic juniper]

She said that they kept dismissing her requests and preaching

[formal pilot]

Try to mix in culture without believing in god

[manic juniper]

The scariest religious people always are converts

[formal pilot]

I haven't encountered em yet irl

[manic juniper]

What are the two most conservative Islamic sects, Salafi and Wahhabi?

What are the differences?

She was a self defined Salafi

[rich thorn]

bro how do i swim without fins.

[manic juniper]

Snakes, hagfishes, eels, lizards be like

[rich thorn]

eel ectrifying

[formal pilot]

There aren't much, I need to check it lol
Btw my family is product of wahhabism

[formal pilot]

You don't have to swim, just go with the flow

[manic juniper]

Is it even a sect you can be born into? Or are its ideals simply floating around to be caught by Sunnis

From what I've read on Wikipedia both are essentially the same, whatever you read on the Qur'an or authentic hadiths has to be followed as strictly as possible

Only one of the two was created by a Saudi

[formal pilot]

Both of em are really similar
Both are extremist sects that end up harming others with their interpretations. They will do things like beating children for being unable to memorise Quran, calling other Muslims kafirs for having different opinions, and supporting groups like the Taliban or ISIS

Most modern Muslims hate em

[formal pilot]

I didn't get the question

[rich thorn]

Adrift and stranded in the ocean, like an empty boat at the mercy of the currents

[formal pilot]

They are deviants of the Hanbali/Athari schools as claimed, They’re the ones who started the trend of putting Hadith over the Quran even. They takfir ALL muslims who don’t follow their deviant ways

To this day my grandfather don't do charity to other mosque than a wahabi one

[manic juniper]

Are there any people that identify as them? Since it's not really an old, "natural" sect like Sunni or Shia

For example Christians do have very new sects like those, and yes there are some people that identify in them. I didn't get the same impression from Muslims

[formal pilot]

We identify as Sunni

But according to every other group in my country we're wahabi

[manic juniper]

I see, so yeah it's similar to having an exonym that others attributed to you

[formal pilot]

We call ourselves sunni and we get offended when someone says bad thing about wahhabism

[manic juniper]

Maybe over time they will distance themselves enough from the mainstream Sunnis to the point of having to identify as something else

[formal pilot]

This gap is already big in south asian

[manic juniper]

It's crazy how Germany is training and paying progressive imams to fight teachers of Wahhabism

If they don't do like Germany everywhere they're cooked

[formal pilot]

Surprisingly most of ex muslims I've encountered were from wahabi/ salafi sect

[manic juniper]

I didn't meet a huge diversity of them tbf

But I realised how ex Muslims are a lot more than I thought

Why

[formal pilot]

Because your voice shouldn't be heard by other men

[manic juniper]

☠️

[formal pilot]

💀

[manic juniper]

I didn't realise it was that bad

[formal pilot]

Blud when I say I'm from extremist said I'm being fr

They celebrated when Taliban took over afganistan

[manic juniper]

I thought only imams and like very few isolated people could be like that, not entire families

[thorny steeple]

What are you talking about? guys

[manic juniper]

But yeah if Mormoms are a thing then why wouldn't this be realistic

[formal pilot]

I'll get arrested if I tell more about my family

[manic juniper]

Man you gotta flee your country if there is an ethnic cleansing

Your family will be in the top 1% of the blacklist

[formal pilot]

It's true that's why it's funny

[manic juniper]

If you want to live in a place where most people are Muslims and where you don't look too out of place you could try Turkey

[formal pilot]

If they find about all the haram things i do on regular basis, I'll get beheaded

[manic juniper]

You can be openly atheist and racism shouldn't be a big issue

Or Azerbaijan, the chihuahua version of Turkey

[formal pilot]

Yeah I look arab enough to blend in

[manic juniper]

It's one of the least devout of the Muslim majority countries

[formal pilot]

It's intresting how in places where islam originated is more open to different ideologies than south asian muslims

[manic juniper]

Yeah I noticed that as well, it's funny how Pakistan has a city whose name literally means "Islam's city" (unless I'm mistaken)

[thorny steeple]

Guys too busy

[formal pilot]

Underaged marriage is still a thing here

[manic juniper]

It's the same with Christianity to an extent

[formal pilot]

Religion, islam to be precise

[manic juniper]

Latin America and USA are a lot more religious than Europe unless you exclude some Eastern European and Caucasian countries

[formal pilot]

Na you're right, Islamabad

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[manic juniper]

And Philippines too

Extremely religious compared to Europe

[formal pilot]

Yeah converts are saviour of religion

[cursive bobcat]

You are AFK: No reason provided.

[spiral jackal]

?afk well

[cursive bobcat]

You are AFK: well

[spiral jackal]

?afk e

[cursive bobcat]

You are AFK: e

[formal pilot]

Bangladesh is becoming afganistan day by day

[whole yacht]

Hacker entered in chat

[spiral jackal]

?help

[formal pilot]

Anyway I'm out, it's enough of discord

[whole yacht]

What happened

[cursive bobcat]

y2kbb is AFK: No reason provided. (<t:1732420646:R>)

[thorny steeple]

True! Religion seems to be more prominent in Latin America and the U.S. than in most of Europe, except for Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. What do you think causes this?

[somber glade]

what's going on?

[thorny steeple]

Maybe! They were talking about "Religion, islam to be precise"

[whole yacht]

Chat is dead

[mystic folio]

Israel means struggled with gd

[somber glade]

ahh, but i read some chats about wahhabi, were they talking about diversity in islam?

[thorny steeple]

Idk, maybe! I didn't read chats

[thorny steeple]

#1210651986731474975 message

[feral river]

they don't need much muslims come into their country

I don't see one single muslim country has openly supported to immigrate to their own country but sending million refugees throughout the globe

I even started to doubt if that's their secret agenda for islam global influence but in this case we are countering this situation

first we can have ban, second is deportation

it's not really possible for western nations to add a threshold to filter which people are qualified to be part of their society based on political affiliation but it has in China and it worked damn well

we only let some people in who are in favor to our political agenda and loyal to us.

west simply cannot do this for some stupid reason

but at least they choose Donald J. Trump, things are going to change anyway.

this is clearly, ideological infiltration nothing really special compared with the communism agenda led by the Soviet Union

but propagading different things, this one is even more weak because it based on religion and certain group of people so that wouldn't be a burden to counter them

I'm not a islamophobic, but I strongly support to counter Islamic influence.

[opal radish]

This is intense

[serene yew]

holy

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Index

I just discovered something interesting

[wind jay]

Yup. They have Israel as the 2nd in that rankings for this year

[feral river]

that's why they need to react asap

and they are doing a good job.

[dapper laurel]

@dense agate @manic juniper

[manic juniper]

True except for Hungary, he was wearing blue and he wasn't Santa

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosvopaisti

[wind jay]

What diabolical shit is this lol

[dapper laurel]

Hungary was assimilated with time 😔 I mean, why are the best ones always the ones to leave us?

[dapper laurel]

Uralic brotherhood

[manic juniper]

They were too southern, they never were Santa

[thorny steeple]

What's the map in your bio ??

[dapper laurel]

The real santa is Turkishz

[thorny steeple]

I think we should bring monkeys to canada and let them reproduce so there will be no more canada

[thorny steeple]

Intresting

[dense agate]

you get an A just for the throat singing

[pastel fern]

I don't know why this is named 'serious chat'💀👍🏻

[drowsy helm]

hello

i would like to engage someone in earnest interlocution

[manic juniper]

Japan

[thorny steeple]

Gotcha

U live in japan

[formal pilot]

Rip beloved Serious chat

Couldn't handle the winters

Storing fat is really important for winters unfortunately serious chat got trapped in Instagram fomo physique

[thorny steeple]

Evolution 🧬

[remote raven]

I like this chat

[thorny steeple]

?def testament

[cursive bobcat]

Word: testament

Definition 1 (noun): a legal document declaring a person's wishes regarding the disposal of their property when they die
Definition 2 (noun): a profession of belief
Definition 3 (noun): either of the two main parts of the Christian Bible

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by kapoor0809_00653

[magic bridge]

?t

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

What’s the most interesting building you’ve ever seen or been in?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[magic bridge]

?t

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

What’s the most disgusting sounding word in the English language?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[open plover]

Are you originally from Japan?

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper Lego horizon meh game.

Meh in bad way, some meh game fun to play, this igame looks and plays nice, but like you do the same thing over and over

[manic juniper]

Repetitive then

[manic juniper]

No, I'm from Finland

[open plover]

Oh alright. But what do you like the most about Japan?

[ashen mortar]

japan is fake like china

[dapper laurel]

Japan made crazy commercials for McDonald's

[ashen mortar]

japan being japan

[prisma cipher]

Anime

[vague echo]

Hey can u help me learn Finnish

[prisma cipher]

There is an easter egg in this game. On the radio, among many songs, there is a song that insults a whole group of people, Russians.

[desert brook]

could someone to see if understand "we want to go to church,today fo is rolling event especial there"

[lunar hatch]

Does anyone knows an alternative to notion with ai?

[sand smelt]

no

[vital creek]

hello guys I'm just wondering when will I be able to stream or turn on the camera?

[slender agate]

هلوو

Hi

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crazy-crazy-emoji-emoji-crazy-emoji-are-you-crazy-gif-17566518746599549444

[formal pilot]

This used to be a thriving place

Unfortunately it couldn't handle the winters

And died

[slender agate]

Let's read something for the dead... really a dead place 😞

Amen 🙏

[formal pilot]

Go for it

[slender agate]

I am using the translator to talk to you, I don't know if there is a mistake 😗

[formal pilot]

Don't use translator it won't help you improve, do mistakes without hesitation lol

Learn from them, eventually you'll master everything

[slender agate]

I am a beginner in the English language. I do not know how to form a sentence. Haha, I need a translator ☹️

Well, with time.. I will learn.. 😤

I'm not Einstein.. I don't have a big brain 😭

[formal pilot]

You'll be dependent on translator lol, we should avoid using it to learn new language

[formal pilot]

You don't need a big brain, I've seen stupid folks as stupid as a salamander

They're fluent in English

Occasionally native

[slender agate]

Life is difficult.. I am at home.. in Saudi Arabia.. not in America. I do not learn from them quickly. 🥺

Well I'm stupid as a fish 🤣

English is like a sea full of words I am a small fish swimming in this sea 😩

[formal pilot]

Lol so your native language is Arabic

What are you studying? Or what's your major

||don't be a computer science student||

[slender agate]

Yes 👍🏻

I work in pizza delivery haha 😛

[formal pilot]

That's great you can interact with different folks on regular basis

[slender agate]

Winter is coming 😗

No, my friend, Trump is coming 🤪

[formal pilot]

Even in middle east?

[slender agate]

I mean, Trump will change the weather.. Haha, journalists make the news big 🥳

World leaders are afraid... 😟

Will it be World War 3 or not? 🧐

Well, goodbye my friend.. I will exit the application 😱

[true lagoon]

it's already there, a month ago

[karmic igloo]

ohh! crap

sooo dull

i hate that crazy season

[quaint dune]

Real

[thorny steeple]

Yes nowhere is safe from Winter

[karmic igloo]

yup bro 😢

[thorny steeple]

Lol ofc the frostbite y'know

[mortal root]

Lol

My area doesnt have snow 😭

Like winter just means cold

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[feral river]

Where you live in you don’t have snow in winter

[mortal root]

Singapore

[feral river]

Damn I ever been to Singapore that’s crazy so lucky you are from Singapore

[mortal root]

Lol tyy

[feral river]

Can u speak mandarin?

I’m from China currently in South Korea

[mortal root]

当然

[mortal root]

Thats cool

[feral river]

Good for you bro I still remember the last year I was in Singapore when im in the hostel the waiter says he can’t speak mandarin as a Han

[mortal root]

Loll

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

How's life

[thorny steeple]

And the other ones

[crude widget]

Singapore is a very nice place

[polar widget]

Agree, always wanna visit there

[crude widget]

I've been there for about 3 days

[polar widget]

Clean and beautiful right?

[crude widget]

exactly

and i happened to visit at just the right time

i got to see a total solar eclipse

[polar widget]

I haven’t had a chance but I will visit there one day

[polar widget]

Aww that’s amazing. When tho? U remember the year?

[crude widget]

it was december 2019

right before the pandemic

[polar widget]

U lucky. I planned to visit China at that time but then boom I was late and pandemic destroyed everything

[crude widget]

so sad

[polar widget]

U must’ve had amazing experiences

[crude widget]

where are you from?

[crude widget]

yes, indeed i have

omg i can't type

lol

[polar widget]

I’m from Vietnam. Pretty near China and Singapore but still haven’t had a chance

[crude widget]

you'll get the chance someday

[polar widget]

Hbu? Where are u from?

[polar widget]

Yay i will

[crude widget]

form USA, living in Ireland

[feral river]

Well that was ended in last year so don’t worry about it anymore

You are welcomed to come into China

[polar widget]

Then so you’ve gone halfway around the world

[crude widget]

yep, so much time sitting on a plane

[polar widget]

Yea. I will have a chance to visit there soon. I believe

[crude widget]

yeah, and maybe i'll come to china someday as well

[polar widget]

But it’s worthy anyway hehe

[crude widget]

yeah, it always works out for the best

[void kiln]

but how will u go back😂

[polar widget]

Good for u

[crude widget]

on a plane, hopefully

[cold jacinth]

Hey

[vocal atlas]

do you have a whatsapp number

[pastel fern]

Hey chat

[manic juniper]

@formal pilot "the secondary palate of cynodonts primarily comprises the maxillae and palatines as in mammals, whereas the secondary palate of the therocephalians primarily comprises the maxillae and the vomer"

[toxic ginkgo]

Yo is great gatsby a good read? I've read the synopsis from the upcoming "book reading event" something by Kaya. The synopsis sounds intriguing

[polar widget]

It depends. I don’t like any characters in it but I still enjoy it for some reason

[void arch]

read very carefully
P1 if u see that there no strong possibility demonstrate that the universe has a starting point , than that implies: " the universe was always existed meaning that it is eternal" so do u agree if this posibility got debunk ull accept that the universe has a starting point ?
well, firstly the universe cant be eternal ,bcz the past events in the history of the universe cannot be infinite, it must be finite for the present to exist , therefore the series of past events began to exist which means that the universe began to exist.
secondly it s impossible to form an actual infinite collection of things by adding one number at a time ,even if u have endless time , it ll never reach infinity .
thirdly, thermodynamics tell us that the physical processes eventually run down toward a state of equilibrium , so if the universe has existed for infinite time. then the universe should alr be in cold, dark, dilute, lifeless . the fact that is not indicates that at some point in the finite past, the universe came into existence with a certain amount of energy in it , and that energy has been in a state of being used up is accordance with the second law ever since that creation event .
fourthly, observations of distant galaxies show that they are younger and less evolved than nearby galaxies. This suggests that the universe has a finite age and has been evolving over time.
The life cycles of stars, from their formation to their eventual death, provide evidence for a finite universe. The existence of stars in various stages of their life cycles indicates that the universe has not existed forever.

since u mentioned somthing interesting about quantum mechanics . u have to know in quantum mechanics, a vacuum is not truly empty. It is a state with the lowest possible energy, but it still contains fluctuating energy electromagnetic fields and virtual particles that pop in and out of existence.
so if the universe came to existence it must be from something .

P2: u misused my permesis to come to wrong conclusion that a biased from u ... the universe depending on its parts in a way they form ,shape and show its nature and its image as a whole and dependency never meant to be used the way u did by saying:~~ " implying the universe depends on it's part => the universe is a emergent phenomenon => the universe can be reduced to it's component"~~.. also the universe depending on laws meaning => depending on his limited nature and mechanizme to be the way it s now .

ik it could be exist in another way if laws are deff ,but it still show restriction on it .
ur making a claim i never claimed and starting attacking it , my claim is deff and simple the universe depending on his laws and and composes or parts to determine his nature and existence not in causation way but in a relation way ,bcz causations is deff from dependency , i can cause something to exist but it ll still able to exist if i stopped to exist . but something depending on me ll never exist if i disappear so it implies continued existence.

if variables changes the nature of the universe changes. that a form of dependency, or u want to treat the universe as consciece being ?,and say the universe behave and act that way deliberately and thats none-sense and unproven scientifically from a cosmological perspective so far, bcz ur assuming that the universe is behaving that way not bcz its restricted but bcz its his nature ,but the unanswered question still there : what determined its nature ?. since must be a determinator , makes certainty that the universe is restricted and depending .

therfore it cannot exist a world where depending things depend on depending things to infinity , must be a necessary existence that is independent and self-sufficient .

[feral river]

Regardless of how hard you are going to proof how true is your freaking ideology we have millions of reasons to reject it because it is actually nothing forged by certain people.

[void arch]

i didnt think that what i have written was so huge ..Simon would u like , to send it privately?

[void arch]

Ik

[ruby vector]

Impressive

[void arch]

P3: again u implies restriction to be a definer of the existence of the universe and thats not my claim bcz:** laws are not agencies who restricted the universe , laws just demontrate and show how the universe is restricted in a way.**
rather my claim is that observing its(the universe) nature and his observable phenomenons is a prove that it s restricted, if variables changed his nature ll auto change as well. thats show how the universe is restricted ,bcz u cant say the universe not restrcicted just behaving like that , behavior is an attribute we attribute it to a conscience being and that still not proven yet. for the sake of argument saying that the universe is not restricted in his nature bcz its just his behavior, the question is: what made him behaving like that ? has he have a will , or a conscience agency ? absolutely not .
if there is a behavior is the universe implies a cause that restricted it that way , or u can reject "causality" that all science based on and stay believing in nonsense and contradictory consept even if u use them innately to live ur life and act upon them .
( just imagine with me someone living his life or doing science neglecting that there is meaning and causality in the world, would he do any science if there no benefit to search for a cause behind phenomenon, since the idea of causality is absurd for that person).

P4 : i cant imagine that u still mispresenting my position and making for the third time the strawman fallacy .i said "self awarness of the existence" not "self awareness generally"
they are very very deff , bcz first one is about me and u and everyone awaring that we exist ,its specific (about the existance only), objective(its always true) and universal .
the second one is absolutely not objective, rely on experiences environment, interpretation and mental capabilities. moreover the first is innate belief bcz we born with it .it s objective and stable, second is acquired belief or ideas ,that is subjective and changeable. science is based on those universal innate belief if u dont know that i recommend u search to in phylosophy of sciences. for instance cause and effect , universality of the law (meaning an experiment that once was true will always be true -law do not change- Ex : water boils at 100 C).
pls dont talk about things u are really dont undersatand ,can't distinguish between acquired common and innate universal belief.

treating those as "common belief" is very absurd from u ,as they are not acquired by nurture and experiences, rather they are innately in humans as rational beings and within any human that s why its universal. we ll not be able to do science if we reject those premises of "every effect has a cause" "there is meaning in the world" they are absolute truth and objective bcz they are the fundamentals of the scientific method , and "still not be unproven from any point of view and they always ll be" : if u reject them ur doubting and rejecting ur own existence then, since its an innate universal belief and always true . if u consider them as just "common beliefs" its absurd and a clear reject of science-based .. u should take a lesson about the philosophy of science, thats what i could do to enlighten u a little bit.

i always think convincing someone with rationale thinking is absurd since u could reject any axiom, so i prefer the argument that says "human born innately and universally believing in a creator" since its proven from a psychological perspective with plenty of studies .. but im not trying to convince any buddy and i dont need to do so , the fact ,there is an existence is a clear prove that there is a necessary being-cause for it .any normal person with sincere intention would come to the same thing. but sometimes arrogance, pride and desires play its role.

[feral river]

After reading that I don’t wanna say it’s a bullshit but it is and almost none of your claim were actually true based on the logical proof of existence and relation

[thorny steeple]

Tf u all waffling about

[feral river]

What the fuck is human born innately and universally believing in a creator? What on earth the fuck is this ? How you gonna demonstrate it ?

Did you find a DNA chain that was directly related to it ?

Why so hard you are trying to say oh fuck I’m not going to convince anyone but saying how true it is on a bs which is full of false claims ?

[thorny steeple]

What happened?

[feral river]

Let me use that shit to against you back: human born innately and universally believe in an authority under a proletariat leader.

Is that funny ?

Go believe what you want to believe, nobody gives a shit but what you are doing is spreading false claims

And proof me I’m wrong if you can do.

[thorny steeple]

Intresting

[void arch]

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=168143ecbd6918b7291634738c17ca45140a49b7d34aefe8827dea4489317948JmltdHM9MTczMjQ5MjgwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=076a5a0d-97f5-6717-0547-4e39967866ff&psq=Wiley+online+library+religion+is+natural&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9vbmxpbmVsaWJyYXJ5LndpbGV5LmNvbS9kb2kvMTAuMTExMS9qLjE0NjctNzY4Ny4yMDA3LjAwNTc3Lng_bXNvY2tpZD0wNzZhNWEwZDk3ZjU2NzE3MDU0NzRlMzk5Njc4NjZmZg&ntb=1

[feral river]

Would you mind to read that title again and refer it here

[void arch]

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=785d6de24b605aba1c49b58585d06d3d386ad252d793fe09da0967e834a73935JmltdHM9MTczMjQ5MjgwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=076a5a0d-97f5-6717-0547-4e39967866ff&psq=NCR+releguios+beleif+in+human+nature+%2C+huge+new+study+clAIMS&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubmNyb25saW5lLm9yZy9ibG9ncy9uY3ItdG9kYXkvcmVsaWdpb3VzLWJlbGllZi1odW1hbi1uYXR1cmUtaHVnZS1uZXctc3R1ZHktY2xhaW1z&ntb=1

[feral river]

Read that again to refer it here

All together

The title

[void arch]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110714103828.htm here is a notable study conducted by researchers at the University of Oxford, known as the Cognition, Religion, and Theology Project. This three-year international research project involved 57 researchers who conducted over 40 separate studies in 20 countries, representing a diverse range of cultures. The project aimed to investigate whether concepts such as gods and an afterlife are entirely taught or are basic expressions of human nature.

Natural Tendencies: The research found that humans have natural tendencies to believe in gods and an afterlife. This suggests that belief in a higher power is a basic impulse of the human mind.

Children's Beliefs: Studies by Emily Reed Burdett and Justin Barrett from the University of Oxford indicated that children below the age of five find it easier to believe in some superhuman properties than to understand similar human limitations. For example, young children believed that both their mother and God would always know the contents of a hidden box, but as they grew older, they started to understand that their mothers are not all-seeing, while maintaining belief in an all-knowing God.

just to give the whole pecture

[prisma cipher]

Wrong logic.

[void arch]

whats wrong ,if there is law in the universe show us how the universe is restricted therefore is dependent. isn't a clear evidence for a law maker ? or u can prove me that the universe is willing conscience being and it s the necessary existence ? the first unproven from a cosmological perspective and the second one i ve alr debunk

[quick river]

Yo guys, is there anyone that have document/videos/notebook/knowledge about policy gradient ( RL) ?

[fiery flower]

Hi everyone

[prisma cipher]

Your logic

[feral river]

If you cut off the connection between your left brain and right brain, you won’t even realize what is conscious

If you cut off some memorial functional pieces, you will not have memory

So where the fuck are the freaking law of universe you perceived as a conscience being in which part of your brain

[limpid creek]

can i interview someone here for my school work?

[feral river]

You are making shit out of nowhere and the law of natural

You can try to get rid of your brain and stay alive to perceive your afterlife😂😂😂😂

🤣

[void arch]

Minecraft u are just displaying ur ignorance, taking things literary is one its signs.

[feral river]

Not really I just don’t give a shit to your narrative of how great your theist ideology is

And tell you a simple fact

I never see you even trying to counter my point but bring a lot of shit articles you can search through ChatGPT which I can do it too

[void arch]

empty talk and insults are very simple facts

[feral river]

But I don’t want to flood this channel with communism

[feral river]

You do so

Make a lot of sense

You are not even trying to counter my point but continue to spread some influence and article which are in favor with theism

I given an example of based on your logic I can justify atheism

Lmao😂

[prisma cipher]

you give several facts and say that one thing follows from the other, but this is not obvious, a classic example of incorrect logic. I don't even need to prove anything core logic is broken

[void arch]

so u think we are born atheists, then go ahead prove it ??

[feral river]

We born with an empty fucking brain

If I put you in a freaking glass room and do nothing you will act like an animal

It’s nothing about theist or atheist it was like you are trying to proof “oh fuck we are born so we know we have to follow the pace of Mohammad”

That was fucking bullshit dude

You made an assumption and collecting limited evidence to proof your sick idea

That’s what you do

Or bring some freaking scholars ? I don’t care

You have scholars I have it too

[prisma cipher]

a classic example of wrong logic. in the form of absurdity. we are witnessing the triumph of democracy in the world, and at the same time there is a tendency for entire animal species to die out, it means democracy is pure evil.

[feral river]

What makes you think it’s only you having scholars on your side 😂

[prisma cipher]

It just what that dude did

[feral river]

I can even find a scholar in favor with Kim Jong Un to proof how people were born as following the pace of the supreme leader

Like what you have said lmao😂

[void arch]

u dont deserve my respond

[feral river]

You deserve it and I will respond always

You will see it

[void arch]

thats ur freedom

[feral river]

Exactly

[void arch]

gbye

[feral river]

Not goodbye for you

[thorny steeple]

Pointing out that there is some natural tendence to belief in some family of propositions doesnt mean that there is an actual belief on it, just an tendence to it.

What i mean by this is that point out this (supposed here) natural tendence of beliefing in God dont actually implies an necessary rejection of atheist, you can council the two positions by saying "We born atheists, but atheist with tendence to belief in gods and this type of belief"

I dont actually belief we born atheist, but, we born innocent, a category apart of atheism, agnosticism or theism (even in form of politheism or monotheism)

There is also a point to clarify here: What is it that we mean (or, the article means) by "natural", and how you particularly understands this word and how you are useing this one

Another point is about the epistemological scope of science, is science able to make claims about religious topic? I think it cant, cause isnt it epistemological scope, all you can have is some purely descritive factors that you can induct from some non-scientific proposition outside of the science scope.

[thorny steeple]

Minecraft, why so mean? Lets just kill some creepers and be friends...

[feral river]

Dude how hard he will understand that we born with an empty brain ?

That was a simple sentence and statement that includes everything

He’s making things complicated deliberately

He’s trying to proof something does not exist

It can’t be more clear bro

[feral river]

Because he’s mean to me

And I don’t give a shit

I will give it back

And fuck that ideological propaganda

[thorny steeple]

You have no enemies, Minecraft .....

[feral river]

I have a lot of enemies

[thorny steeple]

😔

[void arch]

natural tendency to belief in a high power is very deff from another natural tendency to reject that belief. and that was my all point about ,bcz even if u born with this tendency u still being able to expose to society and be socialized , even more free will have a significant role to maintain or cloud that tendency... the fact there is this tendency rather than another deff one and innately universal (between all kids from deff backgrounds) is beneficial prove of God so far

[feral river]

You can’t find a single DNA string to proof your so called “natural tendency” but totally based on social construct

If you really trying to proof, find one

Find one, even one DNA that could proof your natural tendency

Can you ?

Innately universal without a DNa

How crazy it is you are literally rejecting science

Trying to bring something does not exist like god to proof your freaking ideology?

[thorny steeple]

There is some errors in your answer, i wasnt making a point about the existence of God, my point was entirely about how saying that there is a natural tendence to belief in God doesnt implies actual belief in God, and therefore, doesnt refute (necessarialy) that we born atheists
The point about being born an atheist is a distinct point from talking about God's existence, see for example that is possible that God would instance an possible world where people born atheists, but in this world, God still existing on it, and how people will convert to God would be turning into another way that they are born alike.

About the point as it as "proof of God", i dont see it as proof, seeing that this natural tendence can be explained by another natural tendences that can be naturally reducted

[feral river]

He don’t have that one

At least a valid one

Btw I don’t even need to reject him today’s world we don’t rely on some god or other freaking stuff does not exist

That ideology is outdated so far

And nobody literally gives a shit we all counter their ideological infiltration regardless it is in the west or the east

They are already done

[void arch]

ur imposing that such belief need to be physical , like u can determine empirically ur conscience and put it under a microscope. there are multiples tendency we all born with for instance "causality" a study shows that kids born with the belief that every effect has a cause. another example is morality and justice ,we all born seeking justice and very demonstrated in and example of 2 kids giving them deff amount of chocolate .

[feral river]

Let’s say what you would have if you cut off the connection between your left and right brain ? Science proofed it, you will have nothing

You don’t even will have conscience

[void arch]

how it doesn't refute it when u alr born with such tendency , knowing that every universal and innate belief is alws true like causality

[feral river]

Morality and justice is social construct and being built by authority for regulating people

It does not only exist in theist nations but secular countries and even communist nations

They all have different degree of morality and justice not only you have it dude

And it was totally subjective

[void arch]

there no such a proof for that so far

[thorny steeple]

Cause the point is that God's existence doesnot implies people doesnt born atheist, the born-question is independent of the falisty ou truthfulness of the proposition you born naturally beliefing

[feral river]

I don’t even know where the fuck is your proof by tendency?

Did you find a single DNa relating to this

Try to find one

[thorny steeple]

And, there is another point i can make, an universal and innate belief is true because of it's analytic apriori factor, not just because it is universal or innate

[feral river]

Universal innate belief with thousands of religions and ideologies

Woah that was pretty ‘universal’

[void arch]

ik but when u have many proof that this tendency is **Universal ** u ll have no need to add another tendency that unproved so far ,ur just making an assumption that there is another tendency of not believing..

[feral river]

Yeah universal with millions of ideologies and religion

How universal it is

😂😂😂

[void arch]

we are talking about usocilized kids that innatly born with , and u talking about asquired beleif

ur just ignorant

[thorny steeple]

I'm not saying that we born with another tendence of not-beliefing .-.

[feral river]

It’s you talking about universal now you shifted away from it

[thorny steeple]

I know that there is no such a proof

[void arch]

ur basing ur logic on it .

[feral river]

You said it is universal for having religion and ideologies and I said there was millions of ideologies and religions

[thorny steeple]

?

[feral river]

Oh then you shifted away from it

Lmaooo

[thorny steeple]

I am an atheist, i reject that there is a proof of it, and that is it even possible to proof it, cause a proof is demonstrate that something is real/true, but there is no God to be demonstrate

[feral river]

You can’t proof a negative existence

That was damn ez and relations does not imply causation

[void arch]

ur distinguishing between God existence and that tendency, just bcz maybe there is a possibility for another tendency to be existed according to u.. if there no such thing u cant say they are distinguished , but they ll in relation

[thorny steeple]

I'm not doing that .-.

You dont get my argument

[feral river]

Yeah relation to something does not exist

[thorny steeple]

You hardly mispointed me

[feral river]

That’s your point

Your point is to proof a relation to a something does not exist

Very good @void arch

[void arch]

ur assuming that doesn't exist , so how can u explain the apearence of that tendency innatly and universal pls ???

[feral river]

I’m not assuming let’s make it clear, I’m stating a hard truth of the god does not exist and no one can proof it existed

[void arch]

ur assuming firstly that God don't exist so any proof of that is not a proof . that what ur doing

[feral river]

I’m stating a hard truth okay ? That’s not an assumption

A hard truth you could understand

I didn’t assume

I’m stating a hard truth

And do not twist my word

[void arch]

a hard truth : pls go ahead show us ur overwhelming evidences

[feral river]

Yeah you can’t proof a negative existence and relation does not imply causation

[void arch]

or just a claim without justification

[feral river]

Done

Justification ✅

[void arch]

negative existence of what?

[feral river]

Read it again if you don’t understand

[void arch]

no pls go ahead explain to me

[feral river]

^

Google it

translate.google.com

To your native language

[quartz pulsar]

"The author who had married a week ago was murdered yesterday."
How we can reduce this sentence? I mean reduction of relative pronoun.

[delicate wolf]

The author that married last week was murdered yesterday, maybe?

[sour coral]

Sorry, it would be The author who married last week was murdered yesterday

[quartz pulsar]

Ok. ı'll send there

[sour coral]

Here the relative pronoun is WHO

[delicate wolf]

makes sense

[sour coral]

Haan 😅

[delicate wolf]

i guess thats as short as it can be

[delicate wolf]

TURKISH DETECTED ❗️❗️⚠️⚠️

karaboğa...

[quartz pulsar]

@delicate wolf
Both of you used relative pronouns I mean reduction of these.
Example: the house which is across the street is for rent=> the house across the street is for rent.

[delicate wolf]

okay but i dont think we can take it off on that case

[sour coral]

That was the shortest sentence to be made yaar @quartz pulsar

[delicate wolf]

you have to use that pronoun to attribute a characteristic, if you dont it loses its meaning

[quartz pulsar]

My grammar book say 2 rules about it but with both of them I couldnt do this. it says

1. re. pronoun+be form = delete these thing if they exist in sentence.
2. re. pronoun + present simple => delete these things and do with verb+ing

[quartz pulsar]

😁

[delicate wolf]

yeah but, you forget one thing, you added a characteristic of time on that phrase, so you NEED to use it

if the author was married, and you didnt specify when, you can totally remove it

[cinder quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255541150144532571/1287380100995878945/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker2.gif

[onyx drift]

Wow here in serious chat and i see cat

[cinder quartz]

this is a serious cat

[onyx drift]

Could be but when i see it all my seriousness go away

[ornate siren]

@thorny steeple You into logic?

[manic juniper]

This isn't even the original study

[pastel fern]

Hey chat

[serene cape]

how do i get the role for streaming ?

[formal pilot]

Basically herbivores and carnivorous 💀

It took me hours to understand this

Now Ik nearly everything about skull bones

Smh

[thorny steeple]

Trying to

But i have a slow evolution, i'm new to it

A complete beginner.

[spice bobcat]

The seriousness is acc terrifying.

[weary belfry]

Be level 5

Oh, you already have.

[prisma cipher]

[weary belfry]

Hello there

[thorny steeple]

This pfp is better

It looks good on u

[weary belfry]

Oh, which one

And thank you also

[thorny steeple]

This one

The white one wasn't good ngl

[weary belfry]

Haha, I knew that

[weary belfry]

Omarrr

Sup

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

[last acorn]

Heya Moonie supp !!

how's life going

[weary belfry]

I'm just trying to keep up with life, wby? Did you get the chemistry right?

[last acorn]

That's good , Yeah i'm drinking that 19194th cup of tea and tryna solve some equations 🥲

[weary belfry]

I wish you success and ease in your chemistry studies

[last acorn]

That one moon who wishes success for me is such a unique moon
Hope u are always well and in the best condition 🫶🏻

[weary belfry]

Thank you for your words, Omarr. I'd appreciate that

[last acorn]

[thorny steeple]

#1210651986731474975 message

[harsh spoke]

Hello guys

Need help from a native speaker. I suspect one of my friends has been scammed by a translation service

[brittle arrow]

@harsh spoke idk how much i can help but feel free to dm me

[ornate wedge]

hello everybody

Could someone help me with passive voice? please

[ornate siren]

I see, nice. I may know a thing or two about logic.

However, I don't think that expression on your profile is something for beginners at modal logic.

[ornate siren]

#📚｜english-questions

[magic olive]

Don’t you ever think, some words, quotes or even experience’s , following them make you confined in them?

[thorny steeple]

I think the same

For example sad music has different effects on different people depending on their mental health in which they listen to it.

[magic olive]

Your right, it does give a motivational boost or could be the complete opposite. But one’s word can make a huge difference in one’s life.

What I really want to know is what is right in this?

[thorny steeple]

People should change their surroundings, relationships, things and environment to avoid staying attached to the things that bring them sadness

[magic olive]

That’s one good way to put that. Thanks

[thorny steeple]

rational speaking

But

[magic olive]

[thorny steeple]

If you don't want to leave the memories it's also okay to stay attached but u have to be ready to give ur all

It's more about coping

With the environment

It's not for everyone tho

[magic olive]

I get you. To move ahead, you gotta leave a part of yourself.

[thorny steeple]

Yup

[inland crest]

Hello everyone, can someone help me please ? I have to pass TOIEC test soon but i wanna know if you have any help for find how can i pass TOEIC exam with ETS very cheap please thanks for help.

[magic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-gif-24956654

[rugged vigil]

"If you put 100 black and 100 red ants in a jar, nothing will happen.

But if this jar is shaken violently, the ants will start killing each other. The Reds will consider the blacks as their enemies, and the blacks of the reds as their own.

The real enemy is the one who shakes this jar.

It also happens in the society of people.

So before people attack each other, we need to think about who shook the jar?!"

© Otto von Bismarck - German statesman and politician, the first Chancellor of the German Empire.

[halcyon orbit]

Hello

What do you discuss here?

What realms of life?

[jolly agate]

get it get it

[jolly agate]

Don’t think too much

you will die

[thorny steeple]

Well, i see myself as a beginner anyway
This expression in my bio is just the logical equivalent of necessity but in possibility modal operators (necessity is the negation of possibility of negation) and of possibility but in necessity modal operators (possibility is the negation of necessity of negation)

[manic juniper]

Untrue

[formal pilot]

Alright I asked GPT to make last supper for dinasaurs, and it was hilarious

[tulip drift]

Why so , can you elaborate ?

[inland charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNco4dayC1M

Americans (politicians) are probably not going to give these lesson at school

[rigid berry]

Nice to meet you

[manic juniper]

They attack each other either way, most ants attack ants born of another queen

If you shake the jar you're accelerating the inevitable

[rigid berry]

Why so?

[manic juniper]

Resource control

[rigid berry]

Good

[desert brook]

ichinose,this have the guts

who understand to understand

who don't understand,no understand

ok

I formule it just of trolling

[desert brook]

anyone here is sucker

let to be sucker

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-lollipop-candy-suck-gif-4658637022811603603

[cinder quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688565126349324290/1037306939648004126/mussolini-1.gif

[tulip drift]

Yeah you got a point but that bro was also got a point.

[tulip drift]

Get your shit done ASAP

[manic juniper]

If you do that with black ants with different mothers it has the same result, ants don't care about colours

They care about the pheromones

[thorny steeple]

The thing is u r scientifically correct, but he is also correct in his own way

It's the thoughts conveyed in the story that matter more here

[manic juniper]

There are better comparisons

[thorny steeple]

Maybe yeahh

[manic juniper]

Like idk putting two dogs that don't know each other in the same small cage, it often has the same results

[thorny steeple]

It's meant to be symbolic representation

[manic juniper]

There are ants that don't attack each other because they are the same species but have different skin colour (just like us), if you shake the jar they will just talk to each other more and run

Without ever attacking one another

[thorny steeple]

Ants are kindoff social creatures following hierarchy just like humans

[manic juniper]

They will say "Yo this is bad" and keep running

[thorny steeple]

Maybe it is meant to be that way

[manic juniper]

They don't really have an hierarchy, only roles, but if you tried to give them a hierarchy then the workers are on top

Sterile females on top, then the queen (she has to be productive), the drones are last. They only have value during the mating season

[thorny steeple]

Idk much about ants

Literature is just Literature at the end

No need for it to be scientifically correct for a story ngl

Fiction as a whole Is just totally incorrect

Majority of the times

[celest dew]

What exactly do you wanna fix on passive voice?

[ornate siren]

Can you interpret the expression? Like, can you translate it into English terms?

[thorny steeple]

(¬(□ (□ ¬c))) = ◇c) ∧ (¬(◇ (◇¬t))) = □c)

negation of necessity of necessity of negation of c that is equal to possible to c and negation of possibility of possibility of negation of t is equal to necessity of c

[ornate siren]

Eh, I think you've literally obscured it even more.

You should rather say, "if it's not necessarily the case that c is necessarily false, then c is possibly true; and, if it's impossible that t is possibly false, then t (or c perhaps) is necessarily true." That'd be more comprehensible.

[thorny steeple]

oh, i think you mean a translation not an adaptation

[ornate siren]

Sure, I asked you to specifically translate it.

[rose eagle]

can i live on 500usd a month as a student in moscow?

[thorny steeple]

when translation i mean a literal translation

[ornate siren]

Oh, I see, although the formal methods of translating logical expressions is no more adopted by many authors.

Most acknowledge that the purpose of such translations is to help the reader understand what the expression means, in ordinary language.

[thorny steeple]

oh, i see

[ashen mortar]

how much is rent

[manic juniper]

I love how it often mixes Triceratops with either Tyrannosaurus or Velociraptor from Jurassic Park

[formal pilot]

In one generated imagine it mixed trex and Jesus together 💀

[manic juniper]

As it should be

[formal pilot]

Sorry it's not trex

sauropod

[tulip drift]

Actually it was never about the ants , bro was jus giving an example

[manic juniper]

I don't think it's good

Especially when there are ants that wouldn't kill even if the jar was shaken

[tulip drift]

I don't know much about ants , it was just mine opinion and you have yours .

[thorny steeple]

@ornate siren i think i got a masterpiece error in my bio and now i correct it .-.

[ornate siren]

I think you changed a c to t, didn't you?

And also by the way, what of analytic philosophy are you currently dealing with?

[thorny steeple]

I'd put reasonless modal operator, like 2 of necessity operators

I was meaning "the possibility is the negation of necessity of necessity of negation" instead of "the possibility is the negation of necessity of negation"

I dont even notice that

i'm ashamed of this, lmfao

[ornate siren]

That's not strictly much of an error, when you've translated it into simple language.

It's a bit redundant though.

[thorny steeple]

I've deal with some philosophy of religion, also philosophy of gender, and now being introduced in general

I've also read history of analytic philosophy

Highly interested in epistemology, theories of truth and metaphysics

I've deal with some theories of truth too

I see myself as a quasi-realist and as supporting correspondence theory for example

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, i see that

[ornate siren]

Quasi-realism as in ethics?

[thorny steeple]

Is something like the two operators collapse in just one

Or just meaningless redundancy

[thorny steeple]

Quasi-realism in theories of truth

Talking about the metaphysical part of this philosophy, "the metaphysics of truth"

[ornate siren]

Coherence is just as necessary.

[thorny steeple]

Guys do you support feeding poor children?

[deep leaf]

Yes sometimes 😶

[ruby vector]

No

[thorny steeple]

You don't?

[ruby vector]

U edited it

[thorny steeple]

Bro

[ruby vector]

🙂

[thorny steeple]

I thought you're a good man

[ruby vector]

[thorny steeple]

Or woman

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/scaredcatwraished-gif-1627387108615388079

[steep marsh]

if i can help i well yup

[shy timber]

Cool pfp

[wooden pendant]

How many types of gods are there?

1. The Creator : When people thought about their existence so they just thought there must be a guy who made these things cause things do not appear all of a sudden so what about that god who created them and what about those who created them....... welp they are here since forever no need to worry about that

2. The God of Fear/Darkness/Unknown: when people were afraid (of the darkness at first or the unknown) so they just made a guy who has their back so they dont need to feel afraid

3. The God of Rule: when people wanted to rule over the masses they must show their power so how would they show well their god has approved of that guy so he must be legit

4. The God of Sacrifice/Wishes: If you want something ask a guy who is all powerful and can grant anything and has anything but still he wants to see your sincerity so youll have to sacrifice something from the thing he himself made to give you a thing he made (does that make sense?)

5. The God of Blessings: whenever you want to start some work or go to war (usually a most recurring theme) there's a guy who you can ask for the blessing with which you'll easily win (they don't) if you dont win then the sacrifices were not enough (the other party gave less sacrifice still won and had different god too)

6. The God of Death: Afraid of dying? no worries there's a place after dying just have to do these things given in a list (book) and you wont have to worry if you do it youll go to a sweet nice place called heaven where's everything that you want is there (there's no internet cause it wasnt invented at that time) and if you dont do it youll go to even better place called hell where youll be boiled in hot oil and this is not compulsory after all (It's compulsory)

7. The God of Spirit: Turns out there's no outer guy that does these things infact you are the real god you have the power to do everything you just have to reach enlightenment and how? well lots of ways are there you can meditate, starve yourself or the best of all kill lots of people that you gain enlightenment

8. The AntiGod: god doesnt listen to you? well no worries we have his rival the antigod(devil) you can just pray to him he will listen for sure but he is more demanding and has a special diet for sacrifices (humans) so just sacrifice one or two and you're good to go (there are aftereffects but who cares)

9. The God of Outer Realms: Turns out the god is an alien or an outer being (Cthulhu) so powerful that he can create new species and can grant you wishes (he doesnt know your language)

10. The God of Fate: Turns out everything you are doing has already written by the gods what you will do in the future what you did in the past and what you are doing right (im being controlled by god to be blasphemous not my fault) and the day u will die welp

11. No God: There is no special guy! then who made all these thing? well a thing called big bang happened when it got too hot apparently and hence created everything using all sorts of combinations of atoms and we have proof that it works (but who cares) and you're all alone in this world there is no one on your back no on to grant your wishes no one to give your blessing there is no afterlife you'll just disappear after dying and you wont get to talk to the crush that you were praying for ( 😔 ) this is one is depressing but then again no one is controlling you. you can do anything you want and think rationally and not just follow some book written by humans eons ago and be chill

[fathom adder]

Assalamualaikum and name sisters

[thorny steeple]

Chat gpt ahhhhhhh moments everywhere

[wooden pendant]

well ahoy pirate

its just the thoughts overflowing

[thorny steeple]

Ay ay captain!

[thorny steeple]

Ooooh, let it flow

[void kiln]

we are crafted from the stardust, the universe, God and We are not different. the universe created us in order to know itself.

[keen trail]

is there atheist anybody here ?

[void kiln]

🖐️

[keen trail]

oww really?

[void kiln]

yea

[keen trail]

could u explain why?

[thorny steeple]

hi i'm here

[thorny steeple]

Yessir

[thorny steeple]

Indeed you're

[keen trail]

okay, could i ask u guys?

[thorny steeple]

yes you can

of course

[thorny steeple]

Fire away

[thorny steeple]

I and Lazuli are here as encyclopedias

[thorny steeple]

sorry i dont understand

[keen trail]

what inspired you to identify as an atheist, and how has this perspective influenced the way you see the world or live your life?"

[thorny steeple]

You will on time

[void kiln]

humans made god according to their perspective from thinking... humans cant think beyond thinking..... if god exists he doesnt know how to observe, feel, think, live. he doesnt know the meaning of life himself.. he doesnt play a role in our life.. this is a random simulation where events take place radomly which we cant predict which makes life interesting. god doesnt play a role.

[keen trail]

could u guys answer this?, i'll wait

[thorny steeple]

Religion 101

[thorny steeple]

Philosophy of religion of course; and, i dont see any major change in perspectives, cause i dont think "God" is really a valuous concept to any valuable life-perspective or to things as "meaning of life" or etc, not even necessary to establish concepts as morality and etc

[thorny steeple]

oh now i see

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[static hare]

guys whi do you think will win if andrew vs jake happens

[feral river]

12. The God of Me: I'm the god, I offcially declare myself as the one true god and if you wanna debate about this, come over.

[feral river]

God is just the word of abstractive, the people created for certain reason, nothing too special

[wooden pendant]

Yep you're nothing too special and you come under the god of spirit

[feral river]

that word wasn't for building structure in language, wasn't referring to certain things or categorization, but create a word from nowhere and add credit through it.

[feral river]

don't even aware and that has nothing to do with me.

since you clarified it

and I'm special in this way

[wooden pendant]

Yep you can consider yourself special since I a godly being spent some time to you

[feral river]

well I'm objectively special not subjectively special out of your categorization rule which you stated out

you can still say that I'm not special as a legit statement without that statement you made before

and now it seems a little bit more illegit now

[wooden pendant]

Anyway these trivialities of non special being doesn't have to do nothing with me

[feral river]

or, at least illogical

[feral river]

that's simply arrogant, I get it

and I don't give a shit.

[wooden pendant]

Imma go back to conquering the space time continum

[feral river]

do that

[wooden pendant]

You be you the non special being u are

[feral river]

I will see if I'm a non-special being till you faced me off

and you will see how non-special Im

🤣

[wooden pendant]

by showing that you can only be special by coming in your real form shows how unspecial u really are i dont need to show my real form to show my specialness

[feral river]

I didn’t even ask for your specialness

I consider everyone is special and they have their right to be special

[slow sleet]

Good day enery one

every one

[jolly forge]

My grand mother passed away 😔

[tight phoenix]

Mine too

[waxen bridge]

Mine still kicking

[jolly forge]

Sorry for your loss champ

[tight phoenix]

Well, @jolly forge we need to understand that our grandmother's passing away gave us responsibility to take forward their values.

🥲

[teal light]

hi

[tight phoenix]

Hi

[dapper hamlet]

Hi

[dense otter]

Hi

Continuing the chain

[void kiln]

so much seriousness going on

[spice bobcat]

The seriousness tickles me

[worthy tulip]

hi

[wanton yew]

Hello guys how are you feeling today

[smoky pagoda]

[harsh mountain]

God is dead (I'm on a lose streak in a moba game)

[void arch]

if God exist , it made a necessity for him to be conscience ,self sufficient, all knowing ,all powerful , has a will, and all wise . to create something u need a will to start and initiate the event , to create such a wonderful world with such amount of information and energy u need an imaginable amount of energy and power. to make this world harmonized and complex with no contradiction and errors u need to be all knowing , most wise to put things in the right place.. and to create the world u need to be outside space and time independent from anything, beyond any law . Randomness it s just a consept in ur mind .randomness doesn't exist in reality nothing is random even u can predict which side of the coin will be if u measure all variables bcz everything is governed by laws ..if events take place randomly that will be good if that was observable like appearance of some gold in my pocket that will be a good example.

[dense agate]

actual debate me bro,
i didn't say i claim otherwise, i only pointed out that the premise you're assuming as a fact, just isn't a well established fact, so it's just an assumption, no need for me to reply to the rest about this point.