🧠｜serious-chat

[wooden pendant]

where's mecca

[dense agate]

pure Judean power, the bible said it happened, so it must be true

[manic juniper]

The Middle East before humans arrived (or a long time after they disappeared from there)

[wooden pendant]

do you know that mecca has never been mentioned in any old maps before the islam

[dense agate]

this place is literally worse than the middle east

[void arch]

slavery gradually was abolished in islam , from encouraging treating them well and thats is clearly demonstrated by the commands of the prophet and his actions ... the command of God for ppl to erase their sins by freeing a slave and many other commands

have great time u all

[manic juniper]

"Gradually"→until the 20th century

[ruby vector]

Exactly
I was talking seriously but not providing arguments.

[thorny steeple]

That's irrelevant. My question challenges the idea that if one doesn't formally declare themselves owner of a land, then it isn't theirs. I never claimed a land must have people living on it contemporarily to claim they are indigenous.

[dense agate]

slavery didn't leave the arab world until colonization

[thorny steeple]

Back in the days it was a thing but not now anymore. But do u think blasphemy should be promoted? That's what all non Muslims do.

[dense agate]

so in some sense, they did civilize

[manic juniper]

Challenges whose idea? I simply said that they are completely different people from the Philistines, just as the people living there today have little or nothing to do with the Israelites from 3000 years ago

[cinder quartz]

1593

[wooden pendant]

610 CE almost 1000 years after

[thorny steeple]

And I asked how is the land unclaimed if people clearly lived on it?

[wooden pendant]

doesnt prays to anyone

[dapper laurel]

Bro, you risk ban

Lel

[ruby vector]

People read very hard about others history

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-brother-bilo-bilo-my-honest-reaction-funny-bosnov-gif-14149984189938310003

[manic juniper]

You are talking about a different thing, I said that if the land is unclaimed anyone can move there

[dense agate]

this isn't bad enough to piss off muslim mods

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-brother-bilo-bilo-my-honest-reaction-funny-bosnov-gif-14149984189938310003

[dapper laurel]

Fuck

[dense agate]

nice embed

-50000 aura

[manic juniper]

The house of (one) god, don't mind the other house of the other god in a different place

[dapper laurel]

It worked before, it was a good gif

[dense agate]

most prestigious hotel room

[dapper laurel]

It was my favourite

[thorny steeple]

@dense agate Don't provoke or out the random memes, just debate respectfully or move on.

[dense agate]

i guess this one checked out

[dapper laurel]

-1000000000 aura

[near kernel]

[dense agate]

shaytan possessed me for that moment

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-brother-bilo-bilo-my-honest-reaction-funny-bosnov-gif-14149984189938310003

[ruby vector]

Lack of knowledge leads you to make fun of others own history

[dense agate]

-9999999 aura

enjoy the debt

[dapper laurel]

Why it doesn't work ???????????? Wtf

[dapper laurel]

No, I'm mr aura

[dense agate]

you got fanumtaxxed

[manic juniper]

Old geezers

[hazy lava]

Ohio State citizens arguing with each other. Remember, our highness skibidi toilet is watching us!

[thorny steeple]

You said "Why not, if it's unclaimed land and they are the majority" in reference to #🧠｜serious-chat message.
So, if Canaanites lived on the land, it's 100% claimed. If it's claimed, then not everybody is allowed to move there unless by the consent of the indigenous people, and the people who moved can't suddenly claim the land is theirs and expel the indigenous people. It's like saying a guest is entitled to kick you out of your own house.

[manic juniper]

I was referring to your example on the mixed person in Asia 🤦🏼‍♀️

[ruby vector]

[thorny steeple]

Of any religion including islam , do u think it should be supported? Well anyway I got ur answer, and it makes sense.

[manic juniper]

I don't think that the Canaanites had strict laws on borders, they allowed anyone to settle there and they also weren't against raiding them either. The world used to work like that

[dense agate]

lock-in bible girl, the gooners are rizzing along

[hazy lava]

Fanum Tax em’

[tulip drift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/855229159034716191.gif?size=48

[dapper laurel]

Suggest some pranks to do to my friends

[manic juniper]

This is a classified SUPO file, delete it immediately

[ruby vector]

Skill issue

[dapper laurel]

Here it is punished by law

[tulip drift]

What's cookin here guys ?

[dapper laurel]

It's illegal for me to say PD

[ruby vector]

Facts and evidence

[dapper laurel]

Well, I think so

[manic juniper]

True, you can still insult the mother tho

[dense agate]

create a fake facebook account, and list an iphone for a very cheap priceon the marketplace with their phone number
enjoy

[thorny steeple]

The mixed person in Asia was an analogy of how absurd the idea of ethnic mix deprives one of their indigeneity to a land.

[manic juniper]

But I never mentioned indigenous people at any moment, I simply stated that Palestinians are Arabs and not Philistines

[dapper laurel]

I did something like this by creating a fake account of a girl and flirted with my friend

[dense agate]

that's gay

[dapper laurel]

I don't think I can do it anyway

[dapper laurel]

That's cool, I pranked him so bad

I even risked a complaint

[manic juniper]

By law it only applies to insults to God or the Trinity, the saints and Mary are free targets

[dapper laurel]

Well, I'm an outlaw then

[dense agate]

aren't you a hardcore Christian ?

[manic juniper]

In Ireland too

[dapper laurel]

I mean, sometimes it just happens

[manic juniper]

Welcome to Italy

[dense agate]

when did Jesus ever let you down

[dapper laurel]

Well, no, it's all a prank

[manic juniper]

You aren't close to God if you also don't express your love for him in a coloured way

[dapper laurel]

I'm just a regular Christian

[manic juniper]

If you look up a religious map of Italy the most religious northern region is the one with the most blasphemers too

[dapper laurel]

Woah, woah, you mean the Roman republic right?

[dapper laurel]

I practically border that region

[thorny steeple]

I do but I think everyone should have the right to speak , freedom of expression, and some people might have philosophical perspectives because not everyone is same, and I don't think this norm will implement by anytime soon. But I know that after life they all are gonna be dealt by god. Life is just a test.

[manic juniper]

Italy, the capital province of the Roman Republic

[dapper laurel]

Veneto ✨✨

[dense agate]

isn't Italy more religious than the average European state , similar to Spain

[manic juniper]

Btw if you didn't know, bestemmie have their roots in Roman culture

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, we are ✝️☦️✝️☦️✝️☦️✝️

[dense agate]

the economy reflects it pretty well

[dapper laurel]

So I will have to show my Roman identity more often

[manic juniper]

Sort of, but their most religious people are also the strongest blasphemers

[dapper laurel]

Porco Di...

No, non posso farlo

Dio si arrabbia con me poi

[dense agate]

naah, Carthage is what all the ladies care about nowadays

[manic juniper]

[dapper laurel]

D-o

[dense agate]

basically Sopranos

[thorny steeple]

They are Arabs in terms of language. But they are still the indigenous people of Palestine.

[spare mauve]

Palestinians are the indigenous people of Canaan, where the Philistines were known as the "Sea Peoples."

[dapper laurel]

Girls like Carthage, women like Rome

[manic juniper]

They are Arabs in terms of culture too, the only Canaanites left maybe are Jews and Samaritans

[dapper laurel]

I still remember my biggest curse word I ever said, it was very creative

[thorny steeple]

That's exactly what I'm saying! 🤝

[manic juniper]

Palestinians are indigenous to Palestine, Canaan hasn't been a thing in thousands of years

Not that Jews and Samaritans today have much in common with the Canaanites of old

[dense agate]

they'll like Rome if they were masochists

[dapper laurel]

Rome is everything

[dense agate]

sure, all roads lead to rome, except the relevant ones

[dapper laurel]

I always think of Rome, Rome is inside me (metaphorical sense), I love Rome

[dense agate]

if only modern day Carthage was somewhat decent

[dense agate]

is Rome with us in this room ?

[manic juniper]

The before/after picture is depressing

[dapper laurel]

This sentence doesn't make sense

[dapper laurel]

Yes

[round talon]

Hello guys 🤗

[dapper laurel]

You can feel Rome

[dense agate]

they sacked the city :/
actual monsters

[formal pilot]

[dense agate]

onga bonga, rome is lame

[dapper laurel]

Still angry about the temple?

[thorny steeple]

Just because there is a similarity between the Arabic culture and the Palestinian culture, doesn't mean they are the same.
Each Arabic-speaking country has unique aspects of its culture as well as commonalities with a wide range of cultures. In Egypt, we have been influenced by the British and Frensh cultures, even our dialect have terms and words directly derived from English words since the British occupation.

[dapper laurel]

I promise, we won't do it again

[spare mauve]

wait what💀

[dapper laurel]

Never again

[manic juniper]

He'd be less angry if, at the very least, the temple that replaced it was still standing

[dense agate]

talk to me when there are no barbarians in your pseudo empire

[dapper laurel]

Gne gne gne

Rome is still here, nobody can do anything about it

[manic juniper]

Palestinian culture is just a subset of Arab culture just as Bulgarians are a subset of Slavs, I don't even understand what's the point of these long texts that don't say anything new especially since I never mentioned anything about Palestinians being indigenous or not

[dense agate]

no need to rub salt in the wound

[spare mauve]

Canaan is modern day palestine so it's basically still a thing lol

[dense agate]

African warriors took this personally

[manic juniper]

Trajan's Rome is basically all the regions around the Mediterranean Sea, so it's basically still a thing

[dapper laurel]

Now repeat this without using the Latin alphabet

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-monke-monkey-gif-745207933553249995

[dense agate]

你爱男人

checkmate

[dapper laurel]

Ok, hai vinto tu fratello

🇮🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇱

[dense agate]

gli ebrei hanno preso il controllo del tuo impero 🇮🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇱

[dapper laurel]

Trve

[manic juniper]

Hey, when do these Israel and Palestine guys show up? I've been waiting for some years now

[dense agate]

Finns are actually.... nice ?

[manic juniper]

If we keep it it'll get taxed anyway, may as well return it

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper
No, the only Canaanites left are not Jews and Samaritans alone. As I've previously proved Palestinians have a strong ancestral link with Canaanites.
Even if you use the genetic admixture to undermine this, despite being insignificant, both Jews and Samaritans also have a genetic admixture with a wide variety of ethnicities.

[tulip drift]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-star-trek-star-trek-wars-star-trek-religion-star-trek-church-gif-22789975

[manic juniper]

Do you even read what I type? Because I never used an argument on genetics

This is not 1940s Germany

Which Canaanite languages are left today?

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/creep-gif-3329696848541219298

[manic juniper]

Are of these geezers alive besides Jews and Samaritans?

[spare mauve]

what do u think about this then, a DNA test result of a Palestanian woman, as you can see, the majority of it have Canaanite origins

[dense agate]

can always lie on the income reports

[manic juniper]

🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ here we go with the genetic argument

Imagine if we shipped back African Americans to Africa, do you think anyone would care about their genetics?

[dense agate]

time to kick Turks from Anatolia

[thorny steeple]

the best argument is F35

[dense agate]

or Arabs from North Africa

[manic juniper]

In a world where most people can rather easily obtain citizenship of a country why would I care about someone's genetics?

[thorny steeple]

Your statement that the only Canaanites left are Jews and Samaritans inherently calls for genetics. It's outright false.
Language alone doesn't constitute for any culture. Modern-day Egyptians don't speak ancient Egyptian languages and don't write hieroglyphs, that doesn't mean they are suddenly not Egyptians.
Your statement is inherently flawed. There is no reason to continue defending it.

[manic juniper]

Lol there will be a Not-So-Western Sahara State

[dapper laurel]

I can see the ROMANZ

[dense agate]

the most nationalistic & patriotic people i've met, came from the most irrelevant countries

[thorny steeple]

the second picture should be this

[ruby vector]

No language with western DNA
Belong to middle east 3000 ago

[manic juniper]

How? When did I mention genetics? I literally mentioned language all the times. Can you point me to one statement of that kind? Otherwise I'm wasting time

[dense agate]

60% of them are turks ofc

[dapper laurel]

Loool

[thorny steeple]

also finland history 💀

https://tenor.com/view/deer-deer-dancing-deers-dancing-dance-gif-18303569

[dapper laurel]

I'm the exception, I come from the Roman Republic (italya)

[dense agate]

subjective reality

[dapper laurel]

Be quiet projection of my mind

[manic juniper]

"This argument isn't about genetics"

The other guys: "What about genetics?"

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-causing-this-delay-mulligan-why-is-this-taking-so-long-netflix-gif-2762344001948657115

[formal pilot]

Jews belong to India

[dense agate]

i'm eatin away your brain, you're getting a hemorrhage by 26

[dapper laurel]

Italya ♥️♥️

[dense agate]

the one on top pointing at the boat gets me everytime

[dapper laurel]

Well, physical and intellectual decline begins after age 23

[dapper laurel]

My region is well represented too

🇦🇹🤝🏻🇮🇹

[thorny steeple]

the austrian painter was friends with italy indeed

[dapper laurel]

Not me with Austrian genes 👁️👄👁️

[spare mauve]

i mean you don't agree that Palestinians are the indigenous people of Canaan so i showed u DNA test for proof

[dapper laurel]

(german)

🇩🇪=🇦🇹

[thorny steeple]

sus

i now get why you're in turkey mainland

[thorny steeple]

I've already mentioned why!!
Saying that the only Canaanites, which are an ancient catch-all ethnic group, left are Jews and Samaritans inherently calls for genetics. Only genetics can give insights about ancestry, which happens to be the thing in question. And I've already refuted that notion of language proves ethnicity that you've been using as an argument.

[manic juniper]

Can you point Canaan on the map for me?

[dapper laurel]

It's just a matter of mood

[manic juniper]

Use a modern day map where "Canaan" is written there instead of Palestine or Israel

[dapper laurel]

I feel Turkish

[thorny steeple]

the Turkish Republic of Austria

[manic juniper]

It doesn't call for genetics because I excluded people that descended from them, I literally mentioned languages only so I don't get why you're misrepresenting my argument on purpose at this point

[dapper laurel]

It could actually exist in the near future

[spare mauve]

Canaan is Palestine idfc if they changed the name to Palestine or not it's still the same land lol

[manic juniper]

Btw the ancestors of Tunisians were Canaanites too, and they existed well outside of Canaan

[thorny steeple]

europeans will die rather than refuse to eat kebab

[manic juniper]

I know that it's the same land, but if no one calls it like that anymore there must be a reason

If there is no map with Canaan written on it then there are no people indigenous to that land anymore, simply because it doesn't exist

[dapper laurel]

They sell me kebab for 3€, how can I give up all that?

They offer beer too

[thorny steeple]

beer is haram

[thorny steeple]

Your statement is literally, and I quote: "the only Canaanites left maybe are Jews and Samaritans". There is absolutely no exclusion of descent in that statement. You've only proceeded in claiming your statement has nothing to do with genetics, when it clearly does.

[dapper laurel]

But I don't like corona that much

It's like fresh water

[true steppe]

Hey does anyone have a free image enhancer?

[manic juniper]

Yes because Canaanites are an ethnolinguistic group, same as Arabs or Slavs

No, Tunisians aren't Canaanites because there are no Tunisians that speak those languages anymore. It's freaking ridiculous

[thorny steeple]

what's the point of drinking beer if there's vodka

[dapper laurel]

I don't like vodka 😭

For now, I just have to get used to taste it

But it's hard, I can't find it easily and drink it every day

[formal pilot]

Meanwhile God doesn't discriminate

[thorny steeple]

But humans do on the pretext of God 😔

[manic juniper]

I guess that's why most Canaanites don't exist anymore

[thorny steeple]

I was rather joking, but in fact I would prefer almost anything over beer

[formal pilot]

You need to read the image first 💀

[formal pilot]

Welp

[thorny steeple]

you'll be able to find it easily and everyhwere very soon

[thorny steeple]

Canadians*

[formal pilot]

Is it jab on immigrant problem?

[manic juniper]

Those are still alive and well, they are in India and they're called Kannadians

[spare mauve]

naming the entire region "Palestine" is incorrect. the first to call it by this name were the Greek occupiers, followed by the Romans. Do you know when the name of an entire country is reduced to that of a small part of it? Like calling the area from Jordan to Iraq by the name of the Jordan River. the Arabs later adopted this name from the Romans however, the original name is Canaan, and the people were called the Canaanites. It was the Canaanites whom the Hebrews fought to drive out, seize their lands and destroy their cities.

[thorny steeple]

canada doesn't exist

guys canada isn't real

[peak smelt]

False, everything is Canada

[merry ore]

This ^

[dense agate]

🇦🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇹*

[dapper laurel]

It's a projection of my mind

[spare mauve]

i'm done arguing with uneducated poeple tbh, unhealthy for me

[dapper laurel]

🇦🇹🤝🏻🇮🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇱

[dense agate]

you lose the white hand privilege after being conquered by Arabs

so does Spain

[true steppe]

Hey does anyone have a free image enhancer⁉️

[dapper laurel]

Well, my mother is from Southern Italy and she isn't arab looking

It's just a myth

[dense agate]

first comes denial

[dapper laurel]

But Israel is heavily influenced by Arab immigration

[dapper laurel]

First stage of madness

[balmy matrix]

ye gimme the image lemme try

[true steppe]

Okk one second

[dapper laurel]

I'm going crazy because a projection of my mind is going against the thinking of my own mind

[dense agate]

you really want Israel to come fight Hamas in Sicily

[balmy matrix]

sure

[dapper laurel]

Ahaha, I admit that Sicilians look Arab

But it is not the most present genetic group on the island

[dense agate]

i wonder why hmmm

[dapper laurel]

🇮🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇸🇦

[dense agate]

it's like with turks, they be like no Arab genes here

meanwhile the average Turk

[formal pilot]

🇸🇦🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇷

[dense agate]

im not so sure about this one chief

[thorny steeple]

Even from that perspective, concluding that the only "Canaanites" left are Jews and Samaritans is still flawed.
Canaanites spoke the Canaanite language, whereas Jews speak Hebrew and Samaritans speak Samaritan Arabic. Even if you argue that Hebrew is a West Central Semitic, all Semitic languages are similar and share a common root, and Arabic is essentially Central Semitic language. So, it wouldn't be difficult to move from one language to another, and so Palestinians can easily move from one Semitic language to Arabic.
However you twist it, the statement is flawed. There is no way around it. Jews and Samaritans do not speak the Canaanite language itself.

[dapper laurel]

Similar to the Israelis

Well, I don't actually care of skin colour, this is all a joke in the end

So I'm not really interested in determining others whiteness

[manic juniper]

True, Mexicans are the same as Hittites because they both speak an Indo-European language, it must be the same thing

And no Canaanite isn't one language, I guess you didn't even read the content of the screenshot

[manic juniper]

Same, those people that can't tell a language grouping from genetic ancestry

[thorny steeple]

A significant number of Jews learned Hebrew upon moving to Israel in the first place.
You could say Hebrew is the only Canaanite language spoken today, but you can't simply say "Jews" and "Samaritans" are the only Canaanites left.

I'm not denying that some Jews do have an ancestral link with Canaanites, though.

[merry ore]

Heyya, aren't you from the English server I think we've talked

You hate mammals and worship reptiles and avian creatures, right?

[feral river]

that's why you are not a superpower

🇨🇳 🇺🇸 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇫🇷 🤝 🇮🇱

[manic juniper]

I don't care about their genetics

[manic juniper]

Canaanites are an ethnolinguistic group, so yes, they are the only ones left

[dapper laurel]

We are a hyperpower

And do you know why?

Because my mind says so, and you projections of my mind can't do anything about it

[thorny steeple]

Completely non-sequitur! Even from the perspective of "ethnolinguistic" group, modern-day Jews are mostly not Hebrew native speakers! Even if they are, that doesn't mean Palestinians are not also Canaanites, it just means that they switched languages, that's all.
Egyptians don't speak the ancient Egyptian language nor do they write hieroglyph, yet they are still absolutely Egyptians!
As I've previously said, however you twist it, your statement is flawed.

[manic juniper]

Yes it's me, the #1 propagandist

[manic juniper]

Copts still have their language as liturgical language so they can claim whatever they want

Hieroglyphics wasn't even written by most Egyptians of those times and yes, modern Egyptians have little to do with those people as I said

[formal pilot]

Finally a truce has been achieved

[merry ore]

lmao. Heyya, do you remember someone named Ecto?

[manic juniper]

Palestinians and Israelis when they spot the last surviving Canaanite of old

[manic juniper]

Yes I do, you were sent to the shadow realm. What happened to you? We miss your purple cat ass

[formal pilot]

Hear me out, only communism can bring peace to middle east

[dense agate]

or when they're collaborating together to add meaning to life

[dense agate]

like if it helped eastern Europe.
one state to each middle eastern citizen solution

[merry ore]

lmfao, I was mean a few too many times.

Got banned

[manic juniper]

How, you never caused troubles when I was there or at least you seemed one of the least neurotic people on that server

[thorny steeple]

That's only according to your own criteria, which heavily relies on variable aspects of any group, making it inherently flawed and serving no objective method of identifying any one.
Language changes and changed over time, it has little to do with ethnicity. One group occupies another and causes them to use their language doesn't mean they turned into them, it just means they've adopted another language. Even from the perspective of being "ethnolinguistic" group, Palestinians would still fit that criteria as sharing the ethnicity, even if they don't share identical language.
According to you, if I learn Hebrew and speak it, then I'm a Canaanite myself now. It's just absurd.

[dense agate]

how does someone get banned from English server ??

[formal pilot]

I ain't reading aladat

[thorny steeple]

Present-day Egyptians are still Egyptians. That's an identity. Even if there is a genetic admixture.

Even if there is a cultural mix and a language switch as well.

[manic juniper]

Same

Not even my criteria, it's a linguistic criteria

[thorny steeple]

So you read it, despite saying "Same". Lol.

No, that's your criteria. Using a Canaanite language doesn't mean they are Canaanites, it just means they are using one of the Canaanite languages. Again, with that criteria, I can become whoever I use their language. It's very absurd.

[merry ore]

lmao, I sometimes am too blunt

sometimes just straight up rude

[manic juniper]

Yes I stopped reading after few lines, I don't want to repeat myself over and over

[merry ore]

Too many warnings and they done banished me 😔

[manic juniper]

You will not be forgotten, some of us still miss you

[thorny steeple]

Well, you need to realize that repeating yourself doesn't reinforce a flawed argument. It just makes it clearer how flawed it is.

[manic juniper]

Sure, go tell the academia that Palestinians are Canaanites then

[austere hatch]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

Lol. Show me when did the academia claim Jews and Samaritans are the only Canaanites left.

That's your own claim.

[merry ore]

Aww, that's sweet

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaanäische_und_Aramäische_Inschriften
Book on Canaanite and Aramaic languages, there is pre-exile Hebrew in it which is a Canaanite language

[thorny steeple]

Hebrew =/= Jews
Not all present-day Jews speak Hebrew natively, but even if they did, that doesn't mean they are all Canaanites in the slightest. That's confusing correlation with causation.
Do Jews and Canaanites speak a common language? Sure. Does that cause all Jews to be Canaanites? Of course not.

We're going in circles and the article you've cited is absolutely irrelevant to your claim.

[magic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/server-dead-discord-chat-public-gif-1953792179152839589

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper try Mario Odyssey it so much remind Spyro 1

[warm garnet]

The idea is so clear why do i have to explain this ?? They teach them to wear hajib since they were 8 years old ofc they are brainwashed guess what ?
They also force them its totaly different people can be gay by choice do not dare and try to turn this around it so obv so stop it

[true lark]

What oh yeah, confused me as I had no idea what an hajib is

[manic juniper]

Did you get past Peacekeepers?

[prisma cipher]

@manic juniper I think yes, but not sure. I remember that name

I'm here

[manic juniper]

So you're past it already, the next hub should be beast makers I believe

[prisma cipher]

But I skip some dragons, don't know how to get them yet

[manic juniper]

In the first game you're able to get everything on the first visit, it's different in the next two because of skills and characters to unlock

[prisma cipher]

It like in Mario you see where it is but have to think how to get there

[manic juniper]

I believe you have the power to see the items you miss on this remastered, it's the stick button on Playstation

Oh

[prisma cipher]

I see it in the menue

[true lark]

Sounds like one of those common misinformations that sometimes even gets taught at schools, but I'm too tired to research it right now so I'll just assume its the truth

Yeah

[charred trail]

Why are you talking about such topics here? it's not porn server

[true lark]

No its relevant to the topic

They're just talking about historical topics, not 100% sure on the accuracy though

[charred trail]

I know, but according to your culture, it's something normal for you to read. For me, it's impossible.

[true lark]

Well we won't just not teach history because it just mentions nudity

[charred trail]

I think there are much topics to speak about history

@true lark well he can speak I will not read it

[true lark]

Ah, well I'll look into it later sometime

[delicate turret]

.

[sonic lion]

Great rec

[stable venture]

Tell me about it

[fervent marlin]

hmm

well trump will bring peace temporarily

but war will ignite, it may take 20 years, it may take 10 years, but itll happen

[stable venture]

Ahan what about permenently(peace)

[fervent marlin]

trump said for ukraine/russia to end ukraine has to leave nato for at least 20 years

[fervent marlin]

not possible

humans naturally gravitate towards war

cuz of our differences and self interest

[stable venture]

how can you be so sure that trump will bring peace

[fervent marlin]

because he has good relations with almost all world leaders, but only time can tell

he talked with both putin and zelenskyy

[stable venture]

hope for the best

[fervent marlin]

we can hope but we shouldnt deny reality, we should be realists

only by accepting reality we can make it better

not by denying it

[stable venture]

i agree but right now peace is the only solution

[fervent marlin]

wdym

solution to what?

[stable venture]

i mean everything is messed up

The world is in Chaos

[fervent marlin]

its true

its a chaos, but you cant make it peaceful

might as well try to win if you cant stop it

[stable venture]

i wish I could

I m just a normal human

[fervent marlin]

yeah, i think its human nature to want the positive outcome
we gravitate towards it
but unfortunately reality is almost always in the negative, the opposite of what we wish for

[stable venture]

trump is the hope

[fervent marlin]

yeah hopefully he can bring peace in the next 4 years

i think he'll bring it, but it'll be temporary

ticking time bomb

[past sigil]

Goodnight guys, could anyone answer me a question, I live in Brazil ans I was wondering how much is a Therapy session in the EUA?

[fervent marlin]

I have no clue tbh

check google

[stable venture]

Well I hope for the best

[fervent marlin]

Same, hopefully all will be good

[stable venture]

yeah

[fervent marlin]

sorry to break it to you but he wasnt talking about what u sent earlier

we came from general chat

[stable venture]

yeah dude

[fervent marlin]

nah dont worry

[dense surge]

Hi

How do i send pic

[fervent marlin]

u need lvl 5

[dense surge]

Alright

So ill have to keep chatting yea

He cant believe ___ he gave up smoking last week a. What b. When c. Whether d. Why e. How

Im having a hard time with this question

Ik its not a

[thorny steeple]

is it e?

[ivory hawk]

be confident

ITS E

[open plover]

hey

[thorny steeple]

it's wrong and pathetically incorrect

idk havent read allat

[formal hollow]

Hi everyone

[uncut tiger]

The LGBT propaganda is also taught in schools to kids, you're saying that doesn't count as brainwashing?

There's zero chance of a person turning gay if they don't know about LGBT if it exists or not

[feral river]

That was untrue, a person can be a gay without knowing it is LGBT

[dense agate]

and don't forget all the anti-racism/sexism propaganda, may god look over the kids

[thorny steeple]

Honestly LGBT doesn't seem bad

But the concept gets hijacked y'know

[uncut tiger]

Yea schools aren't about learning anymore

[thorny steeple]

Indeed they are not

[uncut tiger]

They just bring the young generation together at a common place so they can be brainwashed and filled with propaganda easily

[feral river]

Make a lot of sense when school is teaching religious context and saying it’s the real truth like a pure ideological propaganda

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[thorny steeple]

?def school

[cursive bobcat]

Word: school

Definition 1 (noun): a large group of fish
Definition 2 (noun): the period of instruction in a school; the time period when school is in session
Definition 3 (verb): teach or refine to be discriminative in taste or judgment

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[warm garnet]

You think i agree teaching Igpt q to kids in school when did i ever say that no and its not zero chance i promise you its higher than wearing that full black ninja custom people were gay before there were any Igpt q community and they were getting punished for it also Research indicates that sexual orientation is influenced by a complex mix of biological, genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors
Millions of women being obressed and has been using hajib for centuries for religion and family forcing them so they don't make us men hor** they been teaching that they are inferior to us and u still wanna keep supporting this ??

Instead of women whos getting punished for not wearing hijab

The hijab for a woman in front of non-mahrams is a necessity; because it is a temptation, and looking at her is a temptation. Therefore, she must wear the hijab to avoid temptation for herself and others. Allah, the Exalted, said about the wives of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and others, even more so: "And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts" [Al-Ahzab: 53].

The hijab can be with the jilbab, and it can be with other garments that cover the body and conceal the body, including the face. The face is the greatest adornment, so covering it is one of the most important tasks. It is the greatest adornment. She covers her head, or her face, and the rest of her body. There is no objection to showing one eye or both to see, or to look at the road, and the things she wants to take and carry

[thorny steeple]

@feral river

[warm garnet]

Faces are the greatest temptation in women and you still wanna support this

https://binbaz.org.sa/fatwas/9864/حكم-الحجاب-وصفته

[warm garnet]

The prove of this in this link

[thorny steeple]

Always use critical thinking 🧐

[dense agate]

there is nothing wrong with people advocating for their rights

[dense agate]

since when school had no business teaching tolerance to better prepare kids for society ?

[feral river]

there's something wrong with disturbing social order by people advocating for their rights

[dense agate]

social order yapster starts again

[feral river]

they can advocate for their right but it doesn't justify they can disturb the social order

[thorny steeple]

True there's nothing wrong indeed

[feral river]

I and you can't escape from this yaplogy

[dense agate]

i raise rainbow flag
everyone around me loses their shit and go ape mode
how is this my fault if they're the ones who lose their shit

[feral river]

you can advocate for your right in your home, to your friends, nobody cares

but if you wave that fucking flag in front of the public and disturb the social order

immediate to the police office.

[dense agate]

it's a yapology that is flawed at it's core, but here again, i'm talking to someone who -in literal sense- lacks principles, if a state would start a holocaust tomorrow, you'd consider protesting against going against social order

[feral river]

it is not flawed, it's well-documented, it was part of the law.

if you want I can show you the page

[dense agate]

it's a law = not flawed at all
your logic is also flawed

[feral river]

no it's not flawed since you didn't proof it in the first place, and it was the law regardless of its flawed or impeecable whatever

[dense agate]

so it would be my fault that they reacted to it violently ?
who is the one disturbing this said socical order

[feral river]

if you waving that flag then you are.

[dense agate]

Minecraft, are you against Holocaust ?

[feral river]

I don't know why you ask me this question

[dense agate]

a simple yes or no

don't deflect

[feral river]

I don't deflect I will answer you directly, I do not support the radical measures against certain group of people which conducted by the authorities.

[dense agate]

you're being regarded here, the person who raises a flag is at wrong and not the ones who are doing the violence

[feral river]

and this has no literal benefit

[feral river]

nope I didn't say the person who goes violently towards the person who's waving the flag is right, they all will face possibie prosecution but different categories

[dense agate]

mazel tov, now by following what you previously said, you'd contradict yourself, if you were in a state that was to commit such a genocidal act, it would go against the social order to stand for something you think is wrong

[dense agate]

just hinting that they're equally at wrong is absurd

[feral river]

you can always name a case

[feral river]

nope one will be in police station one will be in jail

[dense agate]

i am talking on a fundamental level

[feral river]

that's pretty clear dude

[dense agate]

there isn't a valid reason to arrest the one waiving the flag to begin with

[feral river]

why you think the people who violently attack the person in the public is appropriate ?

[feral river]

disturbing the social order

it's you saying that I'm justifying the person who conduct violent attack should not be punished, but no

that's not what I mean bro

[dense agate]

which shows how flawed this "never disturb social order" views of yours are

[feral river]

if there's a case that a person is waving a fucking flag in the public and another person attack him because he's waving that flag

no doubt one will get to the jail one will get to the police office

[dense agate]

no, but you're seeing the one holding a rainbow flag as a wrongdoer

[feral river]

I did not.

[dense agate]

you literally said they disturb the social order

[feral river]

I said they all will be punished but different categories

you don't know what's the different categories ?

[dense agate]

"i don't see him as a wrongdoer" "they both will be punished"

[feral river]

you are saying that the guy who attacked the person in the public is okay because he's waving that fucking flag that was untrue.

that's not what I mean

they all will be punished for attacking another person and disturbing the social order.

[dense agate]

mine allow some oxygen to reach your brain, i'm saying is that you consider the one holding a rainbow flag to be a wrongdoer who also should be punished for disturbing the social order

which is literally what you've said

[feral river]

in front of the public yes.

I can clearly tell you that was true.

[dense agate]

at last

[feral river]

regardless of what flag you are waving, LGBT, Palestine, US, or Russia you will immediately get to the office

[dense agate]

why

[feral river]

because what are you doing is disturbing the social order.

[dense agate]

how

[feral river]

to shorten it I will call it dso instead

[dense agate]

sure, but how ?

[feral river]

spreading influence and propaganda that was included in the DSO definition.

[uncut tiger]

Whaaaaaaat

So protest is illegal at this point

[feral river]

protest is illegal dude what are you expecting ?

[dense agate]

why is advocating for your rights a propaganda ?

[feral river]

well do we really have to debate on this point ?

[uncut tiger]

At this pace, he will start calling religion a propaganda too

[dense agate]

it doesn't seem to be self evident

[feral river]

well depends how you gonna practice it

[uncut tiger]

You're atheist?

[feral river]

irrelevant

[uncut tiger]

Yea it is

A religious person won't say that religion is propaganda

[dense agate]

would rebranding LGBT in China to a more China-appropriate naming and symbol make it okay ?

[feral river]

I said, you can advocate your shit nobody cares, but you can't conduct the DSO violation.

and nobody really cares that how you gonna say that is advocating for your right but will see how you gonna practice it

[dense agate]

this is like the "we're not banning prostitution, we're just banning getting paid for sex" stance.
you can advocate for your rights, but you can't disturb social order, according to which raising a single flag is considered disturbance

if this isn't flawed, i literally don't know what is

[feral river]

well..... I don't really understand how is this relevant to DSO ?

[dense agate]

deductive reasoning would make it relevant, i even explained

[feral river]

but I can tell you that 'advocate for your right' is an abstract form of indicating any actions that may advocate for your right.

but DSO is well-documented and it was a law

it's like excuses vs. the law.

advocate for your right is your excuses to conduct DSO violation

[dense agate]

im sorry but is DSO a divine law ?

[feral river]

It is

[dense agate]

elaborate

[feral river]

millions of people being prosecuted due to DSO violation you see on the media

you might see something happened in Xinjiang

[dense agate]

how does that make it divine

[feral river]

they were arrested because of DSO violation

[dense agate]

just because it's application is well spread

"the law gets applied often therefore it's not wrong"

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[feral river]

nope, you can't just say defy the law order

[thorny steeple]

What is DSO ?

[feral river]

can you defy it ?

[feral river]

disturbing the social order.

[thorny steeple]

Yeahh thanks

Understood

[dense agate]

this is the kind of sentiment you find in those who lack any sense of self or individuality, it might be hard to acknowledge any significance to your self when you're in a +1billion collective nation, but believe me, you have the capacity for rational judgement

or else, you start treating anything as a religion

[high saddle]

honestly, "disturbing the social order" is often a catch-all crime 🤔

and yes, some nations just end up idolizing something, like their last leaders

[dense agate]

yes, that's what i've been trying to get him to understand

[feral river]

well no you can have your individual mind or sense of self like what you have said but it doesn't justify that you can spread influence affect majority of other people and trying to challenge or defy the order by the law and the authority.

[high saddle]

yeag
it's still a crime, but a victimless one this time - and that's frustrating

[feral river]

you can have your individual mind or sense nobody limits you from having that but spreading influence in the public is really not the same thing

[high saddle]

apparently, the law and the self are static.

[digital yarrow]

lol.

[feral river]

It can't be more obvious that the way of spreading influence in the public could be a determinative factor that used for overturn the leadership of the party.

I don't think it can be more obvious or you just don't know @dense agate

have you forgot how Soviet Union collapsed ?

[dense agate]

everyone has an individual mind by default, but it's external factors that limits us from discussing our thoughts and ideas freely

[dense agate]

doesn't have to be an overturn, they could simply be advocating for change, the average person is not a bloodthirsty warmonger

[feral river]

why the heck we have to change for your shit ?

why is not you changing yourself ?

[median temple]

Why china doesn't treat well to foreigners

[digital yarrow]

I fully understand Saimon's point of view. Most of the time, individuals are powerless.

[feral river]

I don't know what case you are referring to

[dense agate]

USSR collapsed for many reasons, but let's just assume it was due to individuals advocating for it's collapse within the country.
you would rather that an inefficient and unpopular state even for it's own people to continue rather than confronting reality and their structural problems ?

[digital yarrow]

Hey bro, plz not judge an entire ethnic group through an individual

[thorny steeple]

Indeed circumstances y'know

[feral river]

first of all, I don't think if you won't have any problem in an inefficient and unpopular state, and second of all, I don't think your most people really have the right to say how is this having a structural problems while you are not part of it.

[dense agate]

calling for open talks about certain issue = we will force change on everyone
and this goes without saying that most of what these people advocate for is for their autonomy to be respected, rather they others sticking their nose in their pesonal matter

[thorny steeple]

Indeed Chernobyl 1986 and the Afghan war accelerated it or help towards it

[feral river]

well no but open talks about certain issue = we may cause more troubles from these issue.

we don't need that trouble

[dense agate]

retype the second point, idk what you're saying

[dense agate]

why would you make such an assumption ?

[digital yarrow]

I know that it's quite normal for people in different environments to have different views.

[feral river]

this is not an assumption

this is god damn truth

[thorny steeple]

Indeed mate

[dense agate]

they're part of the country, they live through those structural problems.
again you go back to my point, you consider a self to be too insignificant to have an actual rational judgement

[digital yarrow]

However it is just that the views are different, rather than there being any difference in the way Chinese people treat others

[dense agate]

dang he said god, it must be true

[feral river]

the second point is you are not affiliated with the structures or within the structure how could you have right to determine this is flawed or not ?

[thorny steeple]

Well different cultures y'know

[feral river]

you are not part of it

[thorny steeple]

I doubt God is behind it lol

[dense agate]

.

[feral river]

and you are saying how is this flawed everyone should judge this, this is clear that you are attemptting to overturn the regime by this way

this is not possible

[dense agate]

Mine, does a regime serve the people, or vice versa ?

[feral river]

regime could serve the people and in most cases it serve the people, but I don't think a regime were established based on the folks' mind will serve the people but ruin the state.

[thorny steeple]

The old time question does it serve the people or itself

[feral river]

there's no fucking majority of people knows how to run a state

they don't know it

[digital yarrow]

In fact, only a very small number of Chinese poeple are on this kind of platform. Perhaps they share some common traits. But I think the vast majority of Chinese people are not like that. What I mean is the way of discussing issues.

[dense agate]

is there an objective way of running a state ?

[feral river]

well unnecessary

[dense agate]

but is there ?

[thorny steeple]

Well America works as an example of people running government

[thorny steeple]

Indeed I hope more Chinese get in this server

[feral river]

people do not care if you are being a dictator or not, but what they are caring is their own shit of prices, wages, medical bills other stuf

[digital yarrow]

Haha, we have internet great wall u know

[feral river]

there's no doubt they will rather live in a totalitarian regime with abundant of resources than a democratic poor place with shitty ground of freedom.

[dense agate]

sure, but is there a true objective way to run a state

[thorny steeple]

Ofc I know mate, Wechat and others y'know

[feral river]

maybe but that's not the reason I would follow it

[dense agate]

wdym maybe ?

[feral river]

well I don't give a shit how does that relevant to me ?

why would I need one

justice ? that was fucked

[dense agate]

either you believe there is or you don't, or you don't think you know enough to make a definite statement

[feral river]

I don't need justice I need the fucking price goes down and wages goes up

[dense agate]

stop deflecting, and don't be spineless for a moment

[feral river]

well I just don't know why you are referring that objective way to run a state

I just don't care.

[dense agate]

lol you're actually spineless

[feral river]

how does that relevant to spineless no clue dude

[dense agate]

would rant nonstop about the state and DSO, but when it comes to a fundemetnal question you' fold

[feral river]

DSO is real thing

it is a real thing

[dense agate]

somethings are left untaught in HOI4

[feral river]

lmao

solo with me after that statement

if you can win against my german or my soviet okay

[dense agate]

Victoria 3 enjoyers care about the economy

[feral river]

fuck the economy solo with me

tax them 99%

[thorny steeple]

Indeed no economy no army

[feral river]

wait not this one

[dapper laurel]

No army no economy, If your country's economy is based on the conquest and suppression of other peoples

[thorny steeple]

Indeed no gunpowder if you are a pre industrial society

I play age of history 3

And 2

[feral river]

@dense agate
Article 290. In cases where crowds are assembled to disturb public order with serious consequences; where the process of work,
production, business, teaching, and scientific research are disrupted; and where serious losses have been caused, the ringleaders are to be
sentenced to not less than three years but not more than seven years of fixed term imprisonment; other active participants are to be
sentenced to not more than three years of fixed term imprisonment, criminal detention, control, or deprivation of political rights.
Assembling crowds to attack state organs, thus disrupting their operations and causing serious losses, the ringleaders are to be sentenced
to not less than five years but not more than 10 years of fixed term imprisonment; and other active participants are to be sentenced to not
less than five year of fixed term imprisonment, criminal detention, control, or deprivation of political rights.
Article 291. In cases where a crowd is assembled to disturb order at stations, wharves, civil aviation stations, market places, public parks,
theaters, exhibitions, sports grounds or other public places, or a crowd is assembled to block traffic or undermine traffic order, or resist or
obstruct state security administration personnel who are carrying out their functions according to law, when the circumstances are serious,
ringleaders are to be sentenced to not more than five years of fixed term imprisonment, criminal detention, or control

[dapper laurel]

Me too

[feral river]

According to the Criminal Law of the People's Republic of China

[thorny steeple]

Formed evil Scotland eh

[thorny steeple]

Why was there no exodus of Manchus after 1912

[digital yarrow]

Cuz Yuan Shikai reached a political reconciliation with Manchu imperial family.

[feral river]

oh dude which province are you from >

[digital yarrow]

Sichuan

[feral river]

Chengdu City ?

I ever been to Chengdu pretty amazing place dude

[digital yarrow]

In fact the Manchus in Northeast China were also rebelling against the Manchu imperial family.

[digital yarrow]

Yeah, it is really fun place. Come and visit often when u're free

[feral river]

ofc 🤣 I currently in South Korea

[digital yarrow]

Cool

[feral river]

and my home is in Jinan city, the capital of the Shandong province

it's pretty close to Korea and Japan

[digital yarrow]

I know that there many Korean people in Weihai

I like to go on holiday in Weihai.I

[feral river]

yeah Weihai was a bilingual city basically you can see a lot of Korean people there

and Qingdao is also an ideal place to have a vacation

they wanna be independent from the Shangdong province and we stopped them

[thorny steeple]

Yes but isn't there an incomplete Book of 500 pages a draft of the Manchurian history

[digital yarrow]

lol

However it is true that accent in Weihai is quite different from that whithin the Shandong Peninsula

The Draft History of Qing must have at least several million words I think

For the current government, how to write the history of Qing is rather vexing matter

For me, it is a history of humiliation, but the Manchu ethnic group is already part of us now

However, according to China's tradition, history of Qing shold have been written by the Republic of China(Taiwan). And we write the history of Republic of China.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

I'm talking about a exodus of people like when a government gets recaplced it's fleeing people make a group else where

Examples Russians after the bolshevism won

[thorny steeple]

Ofc not biased the original 500 something words draft was never completed I wonder how would it be if it was completed

[digital yarrow]

The Chinese goverment at that time did not carry out massacres against the Manchus in Northeast China.

So they don't need to migrate to other place

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Races_Under_One_Union

[thorny steeple]

Yes but I mean their power and wealth

They don't speak the language they used to speak pre 1912

It went extinct

[digital yarrow]

The fact is that: During the Qing Dynasty, which was the dynasty of the Manchus themselves, the Manchus began to be unable to speak Manchu language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_language

According to the records. Emperor Qianlong was very angry about this.

[thorny steeple]

Then what did he do?

[thorny steeple]

Been to fujian or Xinjiang

[digital yarrow]

He could only use some means to force the nobles to study.

So from my point of view, the reason why Han people in China could restore their state after being conqureed by the Mongols(Yuan Dynasty) and the Manchus(Qing dynasty) is that China has a relatiely strong ability to assimilate cultures.

The Manchu emperor Qianlong wrote 40k poems in Chinese.

He wrote at least two poems everyday. lol

[feral river]

well I think it's inappropriate to describe that Han people were under suppressed in Yuan and Qing Dynasty they all established the rule based on the former Han-led Dynasties which doesn't really make a significant difference in treating with people based on the ethnics.

Han people was the dominant ethnic in all along the Chinese history that's true but even China is under the rule by other ethnics they didn't really adopt another system to systematically discriminate the Han people.

that was considerably would be deemed as assimilation against other groups but logically speaking it was not.

[round talon]

Good morning

[manic juniper]

It's very common with foreign dynasties, look up the Rurikids: only the first ones were able to speak Old Norse, over time they started speaking Old East Slavic, Ruthenian, Novgorodian and Old Russian instead just like most of their subjects

The Protestant working ethics leaving their bodies as soon as the place they're colonising has a nice beach and tropical climate

[digital yarrow]

From the perspective of the people's view of history, I agree with ur opinion

[alpine dragon]

what means slow mode there?

btw,hilo,guys

[feral river]

well make sense but that doesn't really a thing to me I'm not a communist I'm even anti-communism

but also that still doesn't make me against the Chinese Communist Party

[alpine dragon]

which province are you from?

[feral river]

Shandong province

I don't have that typical communist view which totally based on party view that dominated the education system

if it's in the old times I would be labeled as 'class enemies' and being taken down or arrested because of the class struggle

now it's 2024 guys

[alpine dragon]

im from hebei，nice to meet you!

[digital yarrow]

I think that has nothing to do with whether one is a communist or not

[feral river]

cool I ever been to Taiyuan pretty close to me

[feral river]

people's view is based on communism I guess

[digital yarrow]

I think it is just a matter of the perspective of looking at history

[feral river]

I heard this word a lot of times and I think it's based on communism especially how it was being referred in typical education system in China

[digital yarrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_history

[feral river]

we are not live in a communist state but communism propaganda were basically everywhere

[digital yarrow]

I know what u mean

[feral river]

yeah 'marxist model in mind'

very communism

[digital yarrow]

The opposite of the people's view of history is the heroic view of history. The Chinese education system adopts the latter one.

[feral river]

well what about the view of history based on objectiveness ? I prefer this one.

I just don't like or pretty hate that someone rob the history to justify their ideological shitass

[digital yarrow]

I think both of them are based on objectivity. The difference lies in the different perspectives.

[feral river]

well I think if you include that perspective it will never be objective.

I don't think you need some comment based on their prejudices to tell you what the fuck have happened

that doesn't make sense at all

it was a preconceived mind or way to conceive a historical event which is biased by ideological affiliations

[rose eagle]

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/business/companies/players-under-18-cannot-exceed-60-minute-playtime-per-game-4815249.html

Vietnam is starting to look like China

[digital yarrow]

lol. No offense. Vietnam looks like China in every aspect.

Throughout history, two countries have too many entanglements

Even the flag is similar

[feral river]

anime 1st

[dapper laurel]

What if they are the same thing?

[thorny steeple]

china is vietnam

[feral river]

don't be that mean to our Vietnamese dude, they are under our influence historically that's true but unnecessary to be condescending towards Vietnamese people

hate can never be a solution to benefit us neither a way could conquer them but provoke them to fight against us

we have a way that could annex them peacefully as long as we keep our ties with them

是故百戰百勝, 非善之善者也, 不戰而屈人之兵, 善之善者也. 故上兵伐謀, 其次伐交, 其次伐兵, 其下攻城.

[shut latch]

bit touchy on the annex thing imo

[feral river]

Thus, winning a hundred battles is not the most skillful achievement; the highest form of excellence is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Therefore, the best strategy is to disrupt the enemy’s plans, followed by disrupting alliances, then engaging their forces, and the last resort is to besiege walled cities. - The art of war

[shut latch]

i don't think vietnam and its people gonna like the idea of being annexed

[feral river]

well things will not going as what you liked

[shut latch]

this chat's a mess

[rose eagle]

Yeaa

@twin quest

[rose eagle]

you don't know that in vietnam our people don't like china so much, right?

[shut latch]

yep

[summer current]

who whant do mock with me

[summer current]

are they praying?

[true lark]

I think so yeah

[summer current]

in Islam we pray like them but men and women are separated

[manic juniper]

They're Muslims

[summer current]

really?

[formal pilot]

New map dropped, that's interesting a women leading the prayers

[manic juniper]

Is it uncommon?

[summer current]

they should be separated

[true lark]

Fun, judging people based on their gender

[summer current]

i don't think so

[true lark]

Are women not worthy to pay the same amount of respect to the god they believe in that they need to be separated?

[summer current]

it's because men can look at someone's wife

[manic juniper]

Women could do that too, if they are bisexual or homosexual

[shut latch]

so it's a problem with mentality perhaps?

[true lark]

And? If I look at you does that instantly taint you?

[manic juniper]

I would create rooms for people to pray without others in

[summer current]

in Islam there are just two genders male and female

[manic juniper]

Those aren't genders

[true lark]

Those aren't genders 🙄

[summer current]

oh

[true lark]

I'm out of here

[manic juniper]

It's just the people they are attracted to

[formal pilot]

Some say that if a woman is more knowledgeable than a man, or is better able to teach the community about Islam, she should be allowed to lead prayer,

But this is the first time I'm seeing women leading prayers while men are also there

[manic juniper]

Homosexual means attracted to the same sex, basically gay and lesbian

[formal pilot]

This is extremely rare

[shut latch]

i can smell a certain thing coming from a mile away, i'm staying outta here

[summer current]

me too)

[manic juniper]

It should be common amongst Tatars or at least that's what those I met told me

[summer current]

idk

ok

[formal pilot]

Tatars?? I'm not familiar with em

[summer current]

any topics to talk?

......................

[feral river]

🤷‍♂️

[manic juniper]

Turkic people from Asia and Eastern Europe

Kinda like Kazakhs but they exist everywhere (nvm Kazakhs do too)

[formal pilot]

Gotcha, it's interesting to witness how religion evolve with morality of that time

[summer current]

Tatars are from Tataristan. It's in Russia. But they're muslims

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah they aren't the OGs

[manic juniper]

It's only one of the places where they live, there are Crimean Tatars, Dobruja Tatars, those are in Ukraine and Romania respectively

[summer current]

• new information

[dense agate]

oh wow, where is this ?

[manic juniper]

I have no idea

[true lark]

God, why is people praying together something to gawk over

[summer current]

there can be some stupid people who film in mosque

[true lark]

That's not what I'm saying

[summer current]

my bad

[formal pilot]

Because it's rare occurrence lol

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-confusion-gif-10824788

[true lark]

I'm saying, if this group of people doesn't have any issues praying together who are you to judge them for it, the god they believe in sure doesn't so who are you

[formal pilot]

I'm sure you suffer from crippling existential crisis

[true lark]

Who

[formal pilot]

[summer current]

"misunderstanding"

[formal pilot]

It was rare occurrence that's why it was topic of discussion

No one is looking down upon them except minecraft china mainland
/S

He looks down upon everything that breaths, CCP supremacy eh

[true lark]

Mm okay, I thought Bruce said they should be separated earlier that's why

[summer current]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bronze thistle]

Hello

[summer current]

hi

[bronze thistle]

How are things

[summer current]

in progress

[bronze thistle]

Progress what?

[summer current]

my succes

[shut latch]

idk man, the monent he begin to say that the annex of my country is invevitable and that i should expect it, is already bad in my book

[bronze thistle]

Good luck

[summer current]

thnx

[formal pilot]

Yeah he might have some extremely opposite opinions, you can just disagree

[shut latch]

yeah, it's what i did, it's easy to get riled up by what he said

[formal pilot]

Isn't it perfect 2 oposite opinions can live together

[shut latch]

especially with all of those unnecessary big words that mean nothing of his

idk man, seems to me that a very specific agenda's being pushed here

[shut latch]

don't mention the 2 islands (Spratly and paracel) and what happened to the fishermen and people there

[late marsh]

Smrh my dad would say

[true lark]

Ah dang I just sneezed my whole innards out

[shut latch]

you might get waterhosed

[manic juniper]

Why would anyone annex Vietnam, they have one of the largest spiders in the world

I don't think anyone wants to take that responsibility

[shut latch]

long standing feud between china and vietnam

[formal pilot]

They also have good food

[manic juniper]

I would because I like big spiders

[shut latch]

been there for more than a thousand year now

as with most political subjects that are fueled by an overfilling amount of patriotism, it's never pretty seeing it popped up

[manic juniper]

Now I must annex China as well

[shut latch]

honestly, i really don't understand the mentality of mainland chinese

[formal pilot]

[shut latch]

i want to, but at this point i'm rather daunted to ask

[formal pilot]

They're really friendly people irl

[shut latch]

from the smallest part of the buffet mentality, to building ethic, to actual ethic, etc...

[true lark]

It's only them, don't worry

[shut latch]

friendly, till you begin to question anything, from my experience

[formal pilot]

Chinese cuisine is also really good

[manic juniper]

Yes I tried that many times

I didn't try the dishes Minecraft spoke of tho

[formal pilot]

Have you tried Dominican cuisine?

[shut latch]

the younger gen of MLCN is somewhat tolerable

[true lark]

Anyways I better go prepare, I've only got 30 minutes left before a meeting

[shut latch]

best of luck Nia, knock them dead

[summer current]

what meeting?

[summer current]

+++++++++++++

[true lark]

I'm not going to do that, that would be stupid

[shut latch]

it's just a phrase meaning "Do you best"

[formal pilot]

They won't stop me from having a good meal and icecream, that's why I don't get mad at extremist folks
What is the worst thing they can do?? Abuse me on internet lol

I've thick skin

[manic juniper]

No, I'm lucky to have tried Chinese cuisine since there aren't many in Finland

Most of the times it's Italian, Turkish, even Filipina

[true lark]

Ah, its a pretty useless meeting, someone made a mistake and everybody thought it was worse so it caused a little panic, it could technically be over in one sentence but you know how it is

[true lark]

Not much chinese in Finland? Odd

[shut latch]

lol yeah, i used to work in catering that tend to have a lot of customers from there all the way in Hanoi, it was not a fun experience getting chewed out for the most random of reasons

despite the fact that im just the delivery boy who's fresh into college

[summer current]

how old are you?

[shut latch]

26 now

that was around 7-8 years ago

getting your entire ancestry chewed out for the food being slightly overseasoned by the chef is a very fun exprience

[formal pilot]

Apart from few European countries are irrelevant to the food world, what did Finland bring to the table?? A cup of ice

[summer current]

I'm 13 years younger

[formal pilot]

Now I can sleep peacefully

Finland doesn't have a good food

[shut latch]

do you have a lot of Fins though

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah I'm really really jealous of that country

[true lark]

I keep forgetting discord is 13+

[shut latch]

cons of growing up

[true lark]

I like mushed potatoes personally

[shut latch]

forgetting that certain sites have the age limite being way lower than you remembered

[formal pilot]

I'm really sad to hear that my friend

[shut latch]

eh, comes with the job

now i just treat most folks from there like a walking minefield

[formal pilot]

Generally getting abused isn't part of jobs

[shut latch]

customer always right

[manic juniper]

Only 17k in the entire country, over 60% in the capital

[shut latch]

in terms of TASTE

[true lark]

It does in America with their odd work eithic

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[manic juniper]

There is good chocolate

[formal pilot]

Sometimes I feel like Merica is living 30 years behind European countries in terms of societies

Workers have good rights in Europe

[manic juniper]

Sometimes those rights are too good

Getting fired or even leaving the job can be difficult

[formal pilot]

Goddammmmit, just lemme sleep peacefully for once

[summer current]

Let's take pity on him

[true lark]

Speaking of delivery drivers, I'm kind of annoyed at the one that drove 5km the other way because they had the wrong addres... suffice it to say my pizza was cold that day

[formal pilot]

And there are Billions of Africans living in Asia and Europe

[true lark]

Have you ever had Belgian chocolate?

[shut latch]

ah shit, not the pizza

[true lark]

Billions? Probably not

[formal pilot]

In comparison to others, y'all are at better place

[formal pilot]

Apparently everyone is African lol

[formal pilot]

💀

[true lark]

I've had 2 shirty experiences ordering from dominos, that was one, the other was when the pizza was just raw

[manic juniper]

Yes but it could make the entire place less competitive

[summer current]

where it is?

[manic juniper]

Nope, I had Italian and Swiss, what's one example of Belgian brand? Maybe I can get one in the future

[summer current]

do y'all play footbal like Neymar?

[formal pilot]

Really good country, it's remarkable how much brazil achieved in sports while not being a really rich country

[formal pilot]

Not only football, they're everywhere lol

Bodybuilding to combat sports even motorsports

[summer current]

what happened then? did you keep being goalkeeper?

[true lark]

Belgian chocolate is basically considered the highest quality luxury type chocolate, because its extremely fine and has a high amount of cacao, try godvia chocolate sometime

[summer current]

how much it costs?

[true lark]

€59 for a cheap box

[true lark]

There are probably some cheaper but those aren't of the good quality that makes belgian chocolate famous

[summer current]

i thought the're crazy about football

[sonic hazel]

Some play better than him. But we are not many. If we were, we would have stood out in the world cup, and not past shame.....

[true lark]

Irish bastards

[crude widget]

woah hey there

[summer current]

"remembering 2014 wrld cup"

[crude widget]

i'm not irish, but i live there now

[true lark]

You should know then! /hj

[crude widget]

yeah you right

but i think that about everyone

[summer current]

bad joke.......

[sonic hazel]

If only it was this cup.. The last time we played really well was in the cup of 2006. After that, the team just came down. Our best chance after that was in 2010.

[true lark]

Haha

[manic juniper]

I will try if I travel to the capital, seems like there is a store that opened there one year ago

[true lark]

Why didn't you capitalise the I in I?

[crude widget]

i'm very lazy, that's all

[true lark]

Tsss

[sonic hazel]

I can’t find... I just can’t see him playing. It gets on my nerves. It seems he always just falls off. I don’t have patience... And look that I am a very patient person.

[true lark]

Could you send an audioclip of how to pronounce the current wotd?

[summer current]

Ok.See y'all later👋

[crude widget]

looks like it hasn't been updated recently, you talking about 'leper'?

[true lark]

Yep

[crude widget]

such a strange word to promote, imo

[true lark]

You run out after a few years

[crude widget]

why do you need to me to say it?

[true lark]

Just that I've got no idea how to pronounce it

[crude widget]

it's like leopard without the 'd', but i realize that maybe leopard is not so easy to discover its pronunciation

[true lark]

Ah yeah that's one of the ways I thought it could be pronounced, thanks

[true lark]

Was doubting between /e/ and E

[crude widget]

yeah i can imagine that it's a tricky one to figure out

i guess another way to describe it is to say 'letter' but replace the t's with a p

or 'pepper' but replace the first letter with an 'l'

or just 'it rhymes with pepper'

that phrase "they treated me as if I was a leper"... i'm pretty sure it's a reference made popular by some ideas expressed in the Bible

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-thumbs-up-you-did-it-proud-of-you-im-proud-of-you-gif-14371951115661365371

[crude widget]

it talks a lot about how to treat people who are inflicted with leprosy, aka a leper

[median temple]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-xi-jinping-g20summit-osaka-japan-potus-gif-18553183

[rose eagle]

I swear to God that the Vietnamese will never agree to merge with China.

CCP has brainwashed you guys

[rose eagle]

if this minecraft guy dares to say this in vietnam i will pay him 20usd if he doesn't get beaten up by vietnamese people

average chinese nationalist

[twin quest]

https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

it's likes saying french's fries is American's food

and have you ever pass your history test?

[thorny steeple]

it is

also southern china is in fact vietnam and was illegally colonized by han people, they should be deported

https://tenor.com/view/super-trump-captain-trump-donald-trump-trump-trump-hero-gif-15530496348396223263

[high saddle]

qhar

of course countries are gonna bear some similarities 💀
doesn't mean they're the same entity

[digital yarrow]

Yes, why are u so sensitive bro

[digital yarrow]

Nobody in China has such an idea

Nobody cares about Vietnam in fact

[rose eagle]

Yea

[digital yarrow]

But I do think there are too many similarities between Vietnam and Guangxi in China

[steel tartan]

like??

[shut latch]

Jesus, pipe down, man

[formal pilot]

[cinder quartz]

no french

[digital yarrow]

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-similarities-between-Chinese-culture-and-Vietnamese-culture

Ofc they have similarities,they are too close to each other. I know many people don’t like China.

In Vietnam

[urban echo]

hello

[feral river]

I swear to God that we don't need your 'agreement' to do whatever we want.

[rose eagle]

and the first colony to defeat a European colonial empire?

[mental bridge]

?def precendence

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[mental bridge]

?def precedence

[cursive bobcat]

Word: precedence

Definition 1 (noun): status established in order of importance or urgency
Definition 2 (noun): the act of preceding in time or order or rank (as in a ceremony)
Definition 3 (noun): preceding in time

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by anne_1707

[mental bridge]

.

[cursive bobcat]

Word: precedent

Definition 1 (noun): (civil law) a law established by following earlier judicial decisions
Definition 2 (noun): a system of jurisprudence based on judicial precedents rather than statutory laws
Definition 3 (noun): an example that is used to justify similar occurrences at a later time

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by inviktus_0

[feral river]

?def rizz

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[feral river]

?def LMAO

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[feral river]

?def lol

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[gusty apex]

Hi

[dapper laurel]

Then I think both failed to conquer Europe

[gusty apex]

Yes, no allies

[dapper laurel]

What about Al-Andalus?

It was almost the entire Iberia against some small kingdoms in Northern Spain

[gusty apex]

Separated from the rest of the Muslims world, Muslims navies on decline, north African kingdoms looking to take opportunities, and an united front against them+ instability

[gusty apex]

It was for like 100 years

Then it started to change

[dapper laurel]

This means that Islam has not been able to keep you united

While Christianity has succeeded in bringing together many peoples of different languages and cultures

[gusty apex]

Through blood

[dapper laurel]

Well, in Europe crusaders from many different countries collaborated

[gusty apex]

It has, but drunk rulers, rebelling Berbers have made it unstable, islam when it first conquered all the vast lands, it was mostly Christian and jewish

[gusty apex]

Yes, killing many christians and sacking Constantinople

[dapper laurel]

The only blood we shed was to defend ourselves from your invasions

[dapper laurel]

These are rather isolated cases, the crusades were not only necessary, but also justified

[gusty apex]

You are Divided by falsehood, united by falsehood

[dapper laurel]

Well, actually I have to thank the Muslims, they were the ones who united us under a common goal

If Europe is united, no one actually can stop it

[dense agate]

i wouldn't count Spain and Balkans as Europe, but sure

they say "Europa termina en los Pirineos" for a reason

[dapper laurel]

Why?

I think I already understand what you mean

[dense agate]

[dapper laurel]

But spain iz our broderz

🇮🇹🤝🏿🇪🇸

[thorny steeple]

yeah except the fact that they were stopped in france and austria

[dense agate]

dey wuz, but no more

[dense agate]

yes, the survivors got to remain European

[thorny steeple]

spain was repopulated

[dapper laurel]

😔

[thorny steeple]

spain is more european than italy

[dapper laurel]

Yez 🇪🇸🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇹

[dense agate]

Spain is as European as Ceuta

[dapper laurel]

Zo trv

https://tenor.com/view/giorgia-meloni-gif-13716506095224083618

[thorny steeple]

my point was that it is closer to europe than italy

[dapper laurel]

Well, idk

[thorny steeple]

especially southern italy

[dapper laurel]

We are both appendages of Europe

[dense agate]

Spain is closer to Africa

[thorny steeple]

lol

[dense agate]

Spain is Africa