🧠｜serious-chat

[dapper laurel]

And you're probably a chatbot

Spamming 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 all days

[feral river]

The sun on the sky is damn damn red eh
The sun in the heart is Donald Trump eh
He leads people ban abortion eh
Really takeover be the owner!
Iya iziyoyaeryaziyo a
Really takeover be the owner!

[junior obsidian]

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[feral river]

🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/israeli-flag-israel-am-yisrael-chai-lion-of-judah-gif-5945756779743519298

🇮🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇮🇱

[balmy matrix]

Italiano

[formal pilot]

Unfortunately they do

[dapper laurel]

Yeeep

Itagliano

[balmy matrix]

Let's kiss

Bros kiss , not gay

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[dapper laurel]

😘

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, friendly and manly kiss, not gay kiss

[balmy matrix]

Exactly, we Chad , Italiano

[junior obsidian]

Genocide supporter

[junior obsidian]

Cringe

[formal pilot]

@manic juniper so you basically comparing slaves to a poor person in capitalist society?

[dapper laurel]

Like that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_fraternal_kiss

[manic juniper]

Sort of, some of them were better off with their rights

I'm not pro-slavery because we have alternatives that are better (to me)
But I don't understand how slavery being normal for most of its existence is proof of objective morality

[formal pilot]

I had something cooking about slavery and you just dropped slavery in Roman Empire, and i hate you for killing my chain of thoughts

[manic juniper]

Why

If I'm not mistaken they also were some of the first to abolish it, I don't recall there being slavery in it in the middle ages for example

[formal pilot]

It wasn't as bad as chattel slavery

[manic juniper]

In the Italian States and in the eastern Roman empire

Apparently there was still slavery but it was very reduced

[formal pilot]

Everything comes down to
if a slave owner treats his slaves well, does that make it moral then? I know it's in the minority of cases, but within these small cases, does it make their act of committing slavery moral just because they treated their slaves well?

[feral river]

loser supporter

[manic juniper]

It used to be better than the alternative, being homeless and not feeding your family

And if you were a slave of a wealthy person chances are you hit jackpot

[dapper laurel]

DID I JUST HEARD ROMAN EMPIRE?

However, slavery was never actually abolished here

[formal pilot]

Alhamdulillah, it was the greatest empire according to my white writers and i believe em

[dapper laurel]

I was a slave until 2017

[formal pilot]

Dayamm that's crazy
We learn new things every single day, Today I'm going to bed learning slavery can be justifiable 💀

[formal pilot]

How did it end?

[manic juniper]

I believe that Alex O'Connor did a video on this too or at least it was in a video about philosophical hot takes

[dapper laurel]

You should believe that the Roman Empire is one of the greatest in history just because I say so 😡😡😡

[dapper laurel]

I married my owner's daughter

[formal pilot]

I mean if we look at the size, we surely had bigger empires

[formal pilot]

I'll make sure to watch it

[formal pilot]

Is she related 💀

[dapper laurel]

The importance of an empire is not only measured by its size, but also by its innovations and cultural influence

So I wuz romanz, I wuz kang, emperorz n such

[formal pilot]

British mongol and Russian empires are way ahead in the game

If we look at cultural impact

Middle eastern folks did a really great job

I mean look at the population of muslims and Christians

[dapper laurel]

Maybe only the British empire

The rest is nothing

[formal pilot]

Persian? Ottoman

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/waffling-gif-26189788

[dapper laurel]

Nothing

The Ottoman Empire claimed to be the successor to the Roman Empire, as did Russia, this speaks volumes

[manic juniper]

Which Persian one

They had at least four or five

The Romans technically had 2 or 3 of them

[dark flame]

Qui puede hablar espagnol?

Porque quiero algo

[thorny steeple]

That means they use it as a form of punishment, not that it's not morally wrong to enslave someone from their group. That proves humans are not morally perfect at best, it does not prove they've seen slavery as morally right altogether.
I've already addressed this point that people did have varying exceptions in which certain actions that are considered immoral can be justified. This is applied ethics, not normative or meta ethics, so it's irrelevant.

[manic juniper]

Becoming a slave voluntarily because you're poor is not a form of punishment

It's a lack of social services

[dark flame]

Guys is here anyone who speaks espagnole ?

[thorny steeple]

It's not. I've already explained how moral values are normative and known by intuition. Why should I doubt my intuition?
Just because it's possible to you that morality is subjective doesn't mean it is. Possibility is not a probability. I could be a butterfly moving around thinking that I'm a human, but I intuitively believe I am not, as long as I don't have a reason to believe otherwise, holding such a belief would be unjustified. So, it would seem that your position is the one that requires justification, not mine since it's normative.
Additionally, the same reasoning can be applied to epistemic facts as I've previously mentioned. There is a similarity between moral claims (what we ought to do from the perspective of morality), and epistemic claims (what we ought to do from the perspective of knowledge and evidence). They are both normative, both tell us one course of action is the correct one, therefore, arguments attacking morality might as well undermine themselves as they are attacking normativity in general.

No, statistics are not necessarily used to form hypothesis or assumptions. They can be used to infer causal relationships. It seems to me like you're abusing the principle of correlation and causation. Apart from being a normative epistemic principle, at this point you could argue that if one puts a paper on fire and it gets burned, one is not justified to believe he caused the paper to burn, only that they correlate. It would be a travesty. The correlation causation fallacy is committed only when a causal relationship is assumed without a proof.

[prisma cipher]

Putin congrats Trump

[thorny steeple]

You said people were enslaved in certain societies for debt. That seems like a punishment rather than a normative or meta ethical belief. However, this example is still applied ethics, so it's irrelevant. This doesn't mean they did perceive slavery as moral on its own.

[manic juniper]

I made many examples, and no I don't think they even thought about slavery as moral or immoral just like working is not a moral matter

When something is normalised it's not seen through a moral lens, to me homosexuality is simply amoral because it has nothing to do with morals

[thorny steeple]

There you go. So your examples are irrelevant. Whether morality is objective or subjective is a meta-ethical topic, it has nothing to do with applied ethics.

[fervent marlin]

A lot of leaders did, netanyahu, mbs, jordan's king, indian pm, etc...

He has good relations with other countries leaders unlike biden

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[shy summit]

For any Americans in Red States there are resources for you if you need to flee.

[ruby vector]

Seeking for revenge
Money power
And you have the world

Business vs covid 19

[quick quarry]

that's very serious, isn't it?

lol

[thorny steeple]

The sequel

[ruby vector]

Season 2 is coming!!
Stay tuned

[grand jolt]

putin is good

[tiny knot]

What serious conversation did i miss

[formal pilot]

First one, The Achaemenid Empire

[formal pilot]

Justification for slavery

[thorny steeple]

The Russian empire stratched from Ukraine to Northern Asia and lasted for centuries

It was only their serfdom system and the West preventing them from developing

Very much like the Ottomans

Black women look very good to me and I'm a light pardo

[ivory hawk]

Memememe

I believe deep down I'm a gold digger

And I love Taylor swift hell yeah

[thorny steeple]

I envy adolescents because I wish I would be one of them again tho my adolescence was shit

[high saddle]

8 e c 99 Oct

[ashen mortar]

putin is my president

[lethal sparrow]

wdym?

[feral river]

people flee from San Francisco, Los Angeles

Zombie apocalypse everyday until our general secretary Xi Jinping comes to that city and Newson clean it up 🤣

[shy summit]

Don’t pick a fight with me tonight mine, you’re already on the hook for this morning,

[formal pilot]

Our*

[feral river]

Dude this is just wild

[feral river]

What just happened ? You appears to be abnormal than before

Anyway good for you

[feral river]

That does not relevant to my statement of how statistics help you to make assumptions, not conclude objective facts.

And the example of casual relationships still in a civil degree of definition doesn’t really matter that much.

The point is, how you gonna explain morality is objective, while I can counter with this definition in another morality you disagree with.

I don’t think it’s possible, that’s why my conclusion was objective morality doesn’t exist.

And you neither could observe nor provide legit proof.

The fact itself of some people follow a similar moral principle is based on statistics and hypotheses.

[ashen mortar]

minecraft morning

[feral river]

Here’s afternoon but morning!

[prisma cipher]

how could i miss this, yesterday was the day of the October Revolution

https://tenor.com/view/ussr-gif-19427265

https://youtu.be/h0zJg6rkJdM?si=vUOsgpM6whDMi1Rt

The battle is going on again
The heart is worrying in the chest
And Lenin is young once again
And the young October is ahead! 🫡

[feral river]

That was in October, right ?

[prisma cipher]

By the old style calendar it was October 25, the calendar was changed, so it was November 7

That's why we celebrate Christmas on January 7th. Because old calendar was different

[uncut tiger]

How can one practice being humble?

[prisma cipher]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xZhBC5iZP-I?si=jcfYUhkzVa2xfS0n

Lenin was so damn cool ngl.

[feral river]

Until he handover the power that caused a competition between Stalin, Trosky

Stalin is not a communist revolutionary but a guy who works for communist party for came to power

And trosky’s permanent revolution and anarchist communism contradicts with Lenin’s centralized political system that manually develop and towards a communist society

Communist Soviet Union is dead after Lenin is dead.

What it being replaced, is a new red empire.

[prisma cipher]

Check this, red army choir https://youtu.be/0UXQPwt0ejE?si=8ZqsN25cjuUluLDv 🫡

[grand jolt]

TRUMP TRUMP

[ashen mortar]

Donald Trump

[feral river]

Donald Trump

[dense agate]

this Trumpsters gathering only lacks the sieg heil salute

[feral river]

I salute the day that he was elected.

America, first.

I just love him when he asked ROC for money

I bet Xi can't be more happier in that day

we all laughing all the time such a clown DPP in ROC

[wooden pendant]

lurks in serious chat

[feral river]

trump dominated Chinese media

[uncut tiger]

@feral river my cousin is going to Beijing next month, he has a question for you

Is it safe to tell a Chinese man that I'm from Taiwan, just as a joke

[feral river]

ofc I have friends from Taiwan

and one of them live in mainland they are okay

Taiwan is part of China, not only Chinese nation but culturally, linguistically part of China.

It was like a North Korean person come to South Korea.

politically, Taiwan's official name is Republic of China, the mainland was People's Republic of China.

it was not some pro-Chinese dilemma it was just a simple truth.

[feral river]

this is the script to describe Chinese character for them

[ruby vector]

New invention by media

[thorny steeple]

it's absolutely relevant. What are you talking about? It addresses the problematic point in your statement that says "not conclude objective facts".
Correlation can imply causation, when there is a causal relationship that can be inferred. Let me elaborate using an example:

• Studies show that daily coffee consumption is correlated with higher level of heart health. Assuming that coffee consumption and heart health have a casual relationship would be unjustified, because other factors such as physical activities, diet, or lifestyle habits could influence both the consumption of coffee and heart health. Therefore, that would be an example of correlation doesn't imply causation.
• Studies on a new medication show that controlled trial of tests produced data of significant decrease in blood pressure. The nature of experimental design and controlled variables in this example does imply a causal relationship. Therefore, that would be an example of correlation implying causation.

If you disagree with any of the above statements you might as well have to assume you shouldn't take any medication if you get sick, because correlation always doesn't imply causation and therefore, medication is not really responsible for curing you.

If you agree, then you'll have to agree that objective facts do exist and that our subjective experiences are adaptive and reflective of them, such that, our five senses use an experimental method in a context of controlled variables similar to how medication can be proved casual with curing certain diseases.

[median temple]

Keyboard Warriors

[feral river]

re-li-gion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

[thorny steeple]

What!? First, you didn't even given yourself the chance to read what wrote. Second, you're using a term that you don't even fully understand.
You could at least learn the implication of your ignorance if you don't want to bother learning the basics of statistics or philosophy and meta-ethics: https://youtu.be/HUti6vGctQM?si=s0Ga2L8EGBGNlSEl

[feral river]

still give you the same result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

I don't think it's debatable.

it was just how a truth were established, if you can against this natural rule of establishing truth, you can forge anything.

[thorny steeple]

Did you even read that Wikipedia article?

[feral river]

I did a lot of times.

[thorny steeple]

Then explain to me, what do you understand of correlation doesn't imply causation?

Don't cite the article. If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it.

The very statement of "correlation doesn't imply causation" and its implication already proves how ignorant you are about it.
It says that correlation does not imply causation, not that it deny or disproves causation. It just refers to exactly what the Wikipedia article you fail to comprehend says "refers to the inability to legitimately deduce a cause-and-effect relationship between two events or variables solely on the basis of an observed association or correlation between them.", So, if one can "deduce" (quoting from the article) the causal relationship, it then implies a casual relationship. It's simple that a 5 year old would understand it with ease.

[feral river]

one moment, I'm on match right now

[feral river]

Studies on a new medication show that controlled trial of tests produced data of significant decrease in blood pressure. The nature of experimental design and controlled variables in this example does imply a causal relationship. Therefore, that would be an example of correlation implying causation.

Let me explain this: you made a conclusion based on statistics that controlled variables as you claimed but how could you conclude a casual relationship based on what you believed a correlation that can not be observed ?

[thorny steeple]

The casual relationship is inferred. The correlation of two events can be observed.

[soft ruin]

can anyone read my english assignment? Its a analyzing text about the first chapter in the story "Gravel" by Alice Munro

[feral river]

the relationship is what you can't observe, you can observe I drink water, also you can observe I play LOL, can you conclude because I drink water so I play LOL ?

[thorny steeple]

That's a trivial example. Of course this example would demonstrate a correlation that doesn't imply causation. Applying experimental method of trial and error in a context of controlled variables would reveal they are not casually related.
You're beating around the bush. I've already explained the difference and gave examples. It's very clear.

[feral river]

I questioned your example and you responded nothing about it.

and this is not a trivial example

and it's you beating around the bush

you realized that you given out a bunch of abstractive statements which basically out of nowhere that could proof nothing but beating around the bush, you quickly switched away from it.

what I'm really doing is using your way to counter your example.

[thorny steeple]

I did respond. (#🧠｜serious-chat message)
Your understanding of correlation doesn't imply causation is inherently wrong. You're taking it to an absolute, implying that no casual relationship can be drawn from anything. Because there are always correlations in a casual relationship.

[feral river]

The casual relationship is inferred. The correlation of two events can be observed. this is your response to " you made a conclusion based on statistics that controlled variables as you claimed but how could you conclude a casual relationship based on what you believed a correlation that can not be observed ? "

[thorny steeple]

It is trivial because it constitutes no challenge to my statements whatsoever. Pretty much a false dilemma.

[feral river]

I don't think if you can think I'm stupid or can I infer you are stupid ? I assume you are not.

and I give you another not trivial, but a hard example that you can't deny

[thorny steeple]

If you believe I misunderstood what you wrote, feel free to rephrase or expound on your statement further.

[feral river]

and you did not deny it, surprisingly

[feral river]

if you think you can't understand what I'm saying, feel free to use a tool that was called google translate to help you understand english language.

I don't think you can use anything to fool around of me and I clearly don't give a shit

also it's you trying to interpret my response in a ridiculous way not me so I don't give that shit too, trivial lmao.

[thorny steeple]

I never denied it to begin with!! There is nothing in my statements that denies correlation doesn't imply causation. My statements pretty much align perfectly with this notion and explain it further.
Casual relationships must be inferred, if it cannot be inferred, then this principle applies. But if one takes any situation in which there is correlation and says "Oh, correlation doesn't imply causation, therefore, it has no causal relationship", then pretty much any casual relationship is denied, because all casual events are essentially correlated! So, the implication of your understand of this principle is the erroneous one.

[thorny steeple]

Not even Google Translate can decipher your poorly written English, sorry. That's a problem for you not for me. Lol.
You've previously used an expression "in a civil degree of definition" that pretty much doesn't exist in English and is simply meaningless. I've spent some time trying to find any clue about what it means, but to no avail. So, I dropped it completely and tried to understand the rest of the sentence. So you live in a glass house while throwing rocks!

[feral river]

then use chatgpt instead.

[thorny steeple]

Used it too. Lol.. Wanna see how he responded?

[feral river]

don't care bro I'm not here to say I'm right you are wrong, I just don't think you are stupid but you keep saying my statement was an error while it's you give a lot of examples with your abstractive statements literally means nothing.

and your examples, you can try to read it again or post here

you will find out how ridiculous it is.

or you can try to pull out a list of my examples.

or I will do that ?

[uncut tiger]

Man online debates are just two randos throwing loads of research articles on each other

[feral river]

I don't do that shit

[uncut tiger]

That's my experience

People just throw links on links

That's just arrogance

[thorny steeple]

It's not that my statements mean nothing, they are all taken from popular philosophers and meta-ethical experts. It's you who don't seem to understand them properly.
That response I gave for your problematic statement about the correlation-causation principle, you didn't even take a minute to read it before responding "re-li-gion". How do you expect a fruitful and understandable discussion with such behavior?

[uncut tiger]

Debate through texting, ewww

I think flare is wasting their time

It's obvious china mainland isn't seriously taking this convo

[feral river]

how about we do a list of each other's examples ?

just by copy paste

or you wanna continue this I can do both

[thorny steeple]

Why do I need to do that? They are already there, you can review the discussion history and see them in a chronological order. It would be exactly the same as listing them again.

[feral river]

make an easy comparison on it

I will do that and you will find out how ridiculous it is.

Flare:

1. coffee consumption is correlated with higher level of heart health Unconcluded
2. new medication show that controlled trial of tests produced data of significant decrease in blood pressure (an example of correlation implying causation)

Minecraft_652:

1. you can observe I drink water, also you can observe I play LOL, you can't conclude because I drink water so I play LOL. Concluded, Did not reject.

Let me rephrase it:
Through the observation of I'm drinking water show that controlled trial of tests produced data of significant increase of chances in playing League of Legends.

🤷‍♂️

Can this be more clear than it ? @thorny steeple

you are the person who's making this complicated as much as you can but I will just pick points that couldn't be more clear than ever before.

or make it more easier
Through the observation of I'm drinking water shows a increase of chances in playing LOL

[thorny steeple]

That's a desperate way of twisting clear statements.
Your example falls under correlation doesn't imply causation. Because no casual relationship can be inferred. You can still play LOL without drinking water. Drinking water does not cause you to play LOL.

I have gave two different examples, the first one resembles yours, the second one explains how casual relationships can be inferred. So, just because there is a correlation doesn't mean there is no causation. If a casual relationship can be inferred, then both correlation and causation are true.

[feral river]

you didn't give a counter part in this message.

I said through the observation of I'm drinking water shows a increase of chances in playing LOL but what you are saying is I can still play LOL without drinking water ?

that statement against the premise of my statement which is invalid.

[thorny steeple]

Yes, sure. I'm the one throwing Wikipedia articles without comprehending them instead of explaining simple concepts. I've been trying to make tons of information as simple as possible as to eliminate any misconception or disagreement. I also have got a lot on my plate to do, so I absolutely want to finish the discussion with fewer and simpler explanation of any concept involved. How am I making the discussion complicated?

[feral river]

or let's make it simple:

Through the observation + drinking water shows + an increase chance of playing LOL

Yours:
You can still play LOL + without drinking water ???? as a counter part.

well well well...

dude this is not debate.

[thorny steeple]

It isn't a counter argument. There is nothing I'm required to counter. Your statement constitutes no real challenge in the first place!

[feral river]

got debunked, so let's combine it.

[thorny steeple]

It just gives an example of one situation with two correlated events that are not casual. It does not constitute any challenge for my second example, it's not even similar.

[feral river]

Flare claims:
new medication show that controlled trial of tests produced data of significant decrease in blood pressure (an example of correlation implying causation)

Minecraft_652 gives counter part:
you can observe I drink water, also you can observe I play LOL, you can't conclude because I drink water so I play LOL. Concluded, Flare did not reject.

Therefore:
Through the observation of I'm drinking water shows an increase of chances in playing LOL (based on the logic of correlation implying causation by Flare)

Flare says, this is twisting clear statements! counter part:
You can still play LOL without drinking water.

Minecraft_652:
??? LMAO

So, you can decrease blood pressure without medicine!

[dawn pivot]

Wha

[thorny steeple]

You know what. Diazonium Ion is right. I have to disengage.

[mental bridge]

?def modest

[cursive bobcat]

Word: modest

Definition 1 (adjective): not large but sufficient in size or amount
Definition 2 (adjective): relatively moderate, limited, or small
Definition 3 (adjective): low or inferior in station or quality

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by anne_1707

[formal pilot]

Dayamm minecraft and flare hijacked serious chat ffs

Both need to chill out

[sonic hazel]

[nova panther]

i dont agree

[deep leaf]

Wht u guys think will change when Trump comes in power?

[mental bridge]

?def sou

[cursive bobcat]

Word: sou

Definition (noun): a former French coin of low denomination; often used of any small amount of money

Definition requested by anne_1707

[shy summit]

https://immpolicytracking.org/media/documents/ACLU_Fact_Sheet_on_Denaturalization.pdf

Any of those who recently obtained legal status in the US should be compelled to come to a sanctuary city.

You’ll be safe in places like CA

[feral river]

can I be one of them ?

[shy summit]

If you are in places like FL you need to run now while you have two months to shortsell assets or whatever you need to do.

[feral river]

wait you said legal nvm.

maybe you are right bro

latest deportation and family separation movement led by Trump is just crazy

[shy summit]

It was disgusting

Those parents never saw their kids again and those kids never got home,

[feral river]

I disagree with his radical measures against those families

yeah this is disgusting

[shy summit]

He’s now stripping citizenship from people

[feral river]

and no clue and no benefit to do that

[shy summit]

Legal citizens he’s taking citizenship from

My advice still stands

Go to California or New York

[feral river]

idk if that is happening... if he's canceling people's citizenship by religion, race, political leanings

that's Kim Jong Un 2.0

[shy summit]

What do you think I’ve been fucking saying?

I know how this is gonna go bro

[manic juniper]

Doesn't he want to remove the ius soli?

Trump I mean, I guess you're talking about him

[feral river]

I don't really know if he would do that much and btw do you have reliable source of he's doing it ?

[shy summit]

Students are even more screwed if he cancels FAFSA

[shy summit]

Yes

[manic juniper]

It makes little sense for a country like USA

[shy summit]

https://theimmigrationhub.org/press/gop-plans-to-turbocharge-trumps-denaturalization-project-threaten-the-nations-core-values/

https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/trump-administration-seeks-to-strip-more-people-of-citizenship/

[feral river]

denaturalization ?

if I know that US citizenship can not be withdrawn

and it was consititutional ?

[shy summit]

The law doesn’t matter to trump

We knew that much when he raped women, never blew the whistle on Epstein

When he falsified records and tried to remain in power illegally

[shy summit]

Yes, but again the law doesn’t matter to trump. He’ll try to cancel all charges against himself

[feral river]

that was called, presidential exemption from being prosecuted

[native bronze]

Bro

General chat

[feral river]

he actually have the right to avoid being prosecuted as a president right ?

[native bronze]

Why i have too see that girly girl Minecraft here

Bring back general chat

[feral river]

https://x.com/StephenM/status/1712094935820780029

Stephen Miller (@StephenM) on X

@JackPosobiec Yes. We started a new denaturalization project under Trump. In 2025, expect it to be turbocharged. https://t.co/tUKejwHwY8

Twitter · Oct 11, 2023, 1:16 PM

What the fuck

[shy summit]

He does not have exemption

[ruby vector]

States are under his control

U can't escape

[feral river]

oh what the heck it was unnecessary to scare the people

[ruby vector]

25 project ongoing...

[feral river]

does he is gonna completely take over the US by controlling everyone's fate ?

that sick if he's just for popularity to separate families and deport legal citizens

[ruby vector]

Yes

We won't be able to see joe again

[feral river]

I still doubt if he's gonna do that, now he's saying it idk what will happen next

[dapper laurel]

Joe will die in a few years

[ruby vector]

Yes
He will
Already claimed by his entourage

[dapper laurel]

As Trump, on the other hand

[ruby vector]

I was going to say it

If he starts playing with the FBI

[manic juniper]

Which communist party?

[dapper laurel]

He will die by old age

[feral river]

idk lol

[feral river]

I invoke the right to wait for his next move.

[dapper laurel]

It could be a loss because he is a great president

I don't know why when people try to defend their country, they get the worst accusations

[ruby vector]

20%

[feral river]

maybe he will be mercy with those innocent people who is living good with their families and pay taxes to the government.

maybe he's just saying it for votes

it was hyping right ? just hyping

[ruby vector]

I don't think so

[dapper laurel]

What? deportation of immigrants?

[feral river]

deportation with denaturalization against legal immigrants.

this is what I can't accept, you can't just cancel their citizenship because they are democrats or they are muslim or they are communists

[prisma cipher]

[feral river]

this is not the USA

they worked hard and paid taxes for american while you are going to cancel their citizenship by your freaking votes ?

[dapper laurel]

Well, I don't understand why Americans are worried, it's a problem for immigrants, not for regular Americans

[feral river]

that won't happen Trump's not a psycho or stupid dude

[feral river]

well.... I would be scared if that happened on immigrants

because this is targeted on immigrants by his allegations who will be sure about the next move isn't target on you ?

it was like my neighbor got shot and I will be scared and move to another neighborhood

[dapper laurel]

He would never harm his own electorate

[feral river]

and United States of America, is a country were built on immigrants, let more legal immigrants come into their country to contribute american economy only will have more benefits.

[feral river]

nvm with Nigeria I guess

[dapper laurel]

America was built by European settlers, who are very different from today's illegal immigrants

[dense agate]

Nigerians still got Turkey, they're fine

[ruby vector]

Bruhh

Not only Nigeria

I just took it as an example

[feral river]

I don't think this example able to represent most countries in the world.

how about India or China

China would be easier to get into the US than India I believe.

[ruby vector]

Well
I have seen other countries

[feral river]

our economy situation is obviously better than India

[dense agate]

not just settlers, Immigrants kept on coming through the entirety of US history, i don't see why you'd exclude them

[dapper laurel]

Because America was born as an Anglo-Saxon state, I don't care about all the other immigrants who came for profit

[ruby vector]

According to his 25 p
He didn't specify the countries but as IMMIGRANTS in general

[dense agate]

how can you even differentiate between them post-US-independence ?

[feral river]

he won't do that I believe... I didn't made a terrible decision to support him he has excellent policies to support US economy and national development.

[dapper laurel]

Hence, idc about Italians, germans, Swedes and such, they are just immigrants who are alien to the concept of the Anglo-American state

[ruby vector]

Yeah great business man
He can do that without immigrants

[feral river]

he may piss some people off but I don't think he will just generalize a group which is a huge group within the US that contributed US a lot

[ruby vector]

Well waiting for January

[dense agate]

millions from Ireland fled to the states mainly because of the famine, and that was decades after the independence, they were discriminated against by both Europe and Americans, yet they are pretty successful within the US

[dapper laurel]

The men who built America are the fathers of the constitution, those who fought for their independence, not people who want profit

[feral river]

I guess... everything will be better under his next administration

there was a reason that people vote for him all we can do is trust him

[ruby vector]

I don't think so

[feral river]

and follow him maybe if he asks people for loyalty to his personality which he did it before

but I believe he's a leader like Putin and Xi, everything will be okay.

[true lark]

Nevermind all that, can we switch to something that it isn't I think this you think that and neither of us will change our views regardless?

[dense agate]

why do you even assume the US reached a point of being fully built ?

[dapper laurel]

A nation is born when it has a people to compose it, a constitution, laws, immigrants haven't built America in this sense

[true lark]

^

[dense agate]

if such thing as "Anglo-American" existed, it probably died just after they got independence, so unless someone was part of the UK and was willing to settle there, they wouldn't have been able to

[dapper laurel]

The statement "immigrants built America" only supports the erratic melting pot theory

[dapper laurel]

This term was preserved and took on the WASP nomenclature

[feral river]

stay loyal to him I think all will be okay.

[dense agate]

in this sense countries are built on day one, which is a hollow way of observing states.
and what you're saying even goes against American principles on which it was built of individuality, capitalism...

[dapper laurel]

I don't understand why everyone is obsessed with defending immigrants in America, they literally betrayed their home country, I'm angry with my relatives who live in America for this reason

[dense agate]

it's not erratic by any means

[feral river]

america is built on immigrants and american dream is the dream for every immigrant that wanted to achieve a better life

[dapper laurel]

In fact, American society is so uniform and united that even when people participate in national and unitary events (such as voting) they are categorized by race/origin/religion

[dapper laurel]

The American dream never existed, immigrants worked hard to enrich the ruling class, that's it, the American dream exists only for the ruling class

[feral river]

well... let's talk about some real stuff

if you live in my city, Jinan city, the capital of Shandong province as a service worker

you probably will only earn 500-700 USD per month which is not a low income in China

[dense agate]

don't confuse the melting pot with census data

[feral river]

you may enjoy the Chinese good which is the cheapest in the world only cost you 1 USD per meal

[dense agate]

are you representing the Chinese dream ?

[feral river]

but in the US, somewhere in California, you can easily get a labor job with a salary of 18 USD per hour.

if you work for 8 hours per day, 22 days a month, you will get 3168 USD a month as an illegal.

and in China you probably will work more like 9-11 hours per day with 4 holidays instead of 8 for a month.

maybe a meal from Mcdonalds will cost you 10 USD or 15 USD leaving a tip or not up to you but this gap still can not be filled

[shy summit]

Have I not explained and demonstrated otherwise?

My best friend’s wife may have to go into hiding dude

[feral river]

I was uncertain about it, I just hope it will be okay.

[shy summit]

12-18 USD btw depends on what you get

[ruby vector]

Closing borders drilling drilling drilling

[feral river]

stay positive, don't worry about it you have sanctuary California

[shy summit]

For now

[feral river]

and he's definitely not going to scare people like that

[ruby vector]

I hope everything works out in her favor 🙏🏻

[feral river]

come on he's just going to tell people loyal to him, not really take actions against people's will

that's not for some 'national interest' there's no freaking national interest from deportations

he's not a tyranny, he was president before dude

[ruby vector]

Not like that
The problem is not on him but his administration and their future decisions
He is just a business man
Solve everything with money
Bannon steve and the other dude

[feral river]

he is, everything comes to an interest to a business man

I'm a business man like him I understand him very well

I know he can just ignore people's will for his interest or national interest or state interest but there's no fucking interest from deportations

deport people will solve nothing but create more vacuum in labor market which most people don't work in, will create deficit, decline U.S. economy and will receive less taxes from deportation.

or if you wanna say he can benefit from this or he can ultimately be a dictator from this, which I don't believe that will happen, he still have to follow the consitution.

and for laws I must say he violated some but he's still a qualified leader.

[ruby vector]

Dictator
This is what he said in one of his interviews

[feral river]

he won't betray the people who loyal to him.

[ruby vector]

New laws maybe

[ruby vector]

Well
I wish peace and love around the world 🙏🏻

[feral river]

well me too but before we can achieve that, we got a lot of works to do.

and Donald Trump will solve it I believe.

[feral river]

why I feel like if you are an immigrant currently outside of the sanctuary area, you will likely be killed 🤣 don't be so stressful with it.

[feral river]

what a prelude of a mass prosecution against certain group of people in certain regions

don't be stressful for it, stay positive and loyal you will be okay.

and everyone will be okay

[shy summit]

Loyalty isn’t a part of the equation

[feral river]

why is there only 19k people vote for Trump in DC

[shy summit]

Because he is very unpopular, had more people voted over all he would have lost

[feral river]

that was true if you let undocument to vote

[shy summit]

No this election just had a very low turnout

[feral river]

he's expelling some people in red states to blue states right ?

[shy summit]

No

[feral river]

oh idk why some people saying it

[shy summit]

Many people are fleeing red states because they are being persecuted

They can’t get various healthcare or they aren’t protected by the law from discrimination.

[manic juniper]

Why don't they move to Finland

[balmy matrix]

am i welcomed in finland

[tulip drift]

How can i move to Finland

[feral river]

they need to preserve their confederate legacy

btw what does this flag mean

what's behind this flag that people waving it for trump

[manic juniper]

Don't know, I spawned there

[manic juniper]

If I'm not mistaken it's the flag of the southern states, the Confederacy

[manic juniper]

People that fought to preserve their old economic and class system based off slavery and plantations

[manic juniper]

Conservatives like it

[shy summit]

Finances mostlyu

[feral river]

I see.

I just think this flag is ugly lol

[dapper laurel]

Dixieland!

I have a t-shirt with that flag on it

[manic juniper]

I like the flag, I don't like the ideology

[feral river]

I'm a capitalist, I endorse the ideology that benefits me or winner ideology

[dense agate]

except that capitalism by itself is an ideology, what you're describing is being an opportunistic not a capitalist

basically you're WW1/WW2 Italy wannabe

[uncut tiger]

Is it just me or does the statement "Everyone is unique" sounds a bit contradicting?

I mean, unique is supposed to be different from others

How can everyone be different from everyone

[feral river]

🤷‍♂️

you know Italy lose WW2 right ?

[dense agate]

only Mussolini's Italy lost, you're aware they switched sides in WW2 as well, right ?

[static pivot]

Hello

I think space is beautiful

[tiny knot]

Meow

[static pivot]

..

[tiny knot]

MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

[thorny steeple]

Meowismmm

[thorny steeple]

Or kesi chl rhi neet preparation ??

[shut vessel]

Do you know me?

[thorny steeple]

Perhaps

[shut vessel]

Looks suspicious

[thorny steeple]

So when are you going to kota

[shut vessel]

Reveal your Identity

[thorny steeple]

[feral river]

they switched side doesn't making them a good example of winning, they lose their western italy and southern italy, they are under destruction by battle conducted by germans and allies in their homeland after surrender

[shut vessel]

An alt?

[thorny steeple]

Nah

[feral river]

they win the war fight for the United States, but they lost the war fight for themselves.

[thorny steeple]

What was ur name🤔

[shut vessel]

[dense agate]

but they make a good example of an opportunistic entity, just like you, they were spineless

[thorny steeple]

It starts from N right??

[shut vessel]

[thorny steeple]

[feral river]

nope I always represent my own interest, not being a puppet of the United States or Greater German Reich

[shut vessel]

Im damn sure You're an alt of someone

[thorny steeple]

Nah im not

[shut vessel]

.

[thorny steeple]

What identity

[dense agate]

you have no principles to stand on and adhere to, you'll go under any ideological umbrella if you perceive it as the winning side, which is literally being spineless

[feral river]

I have a very clear principle based on my own ideology to choose my side for my interest to deal with any circumstances, you can take an example of Spain not Italy.

and it was definitely not spineless

[shut vessel]

Alr

ik

[thorny steeple]

U do??

Who do you think am I then??🙂

[dense agate]

just because you call it an ideology or principle, doesn't make it make

[feral river]

wym

[nova panther]

I agree to disagree

[feral river]

I have a very clear principle I told you

and I have my own ideology to benefit myself not fighting for the master nations

[dense agate]

and spain was neutral

[feral river]

Spain was not so neutral as you think.

[dense agate]

self explanatory

[dense agate]

oh i must've missed the part when they joined a side in ww2

[dense agate]

i don't want to argue semantics here, terms should be taken arbitrarily

[feral river]

Spain was under a fascist government after the Spainish civil war, after the war breaks out, Hitler asked Spain for joining the war, Spain declined the request but keep selling minerals and sending people as volunteer army to fight against Soviet Union, after the turning point of the WW2 were concluded, Spain opened its airspace, dock to U.S. and British armies, at the end they openly say they are anti-nazis

[feral river]

this is a good example of how they were benefiting themselves at the most in ww2

they don't join either side which seemingly will win, but sitting on the fence and benefit from the war that everyone needs them to stay neutral.

that's why I said they are literally not so neutral as you think

[dense agate]

literlaly confirming what i've said, opportunistic, and completely spineless

[feral river]

lol

this is not a game, this is the life for everyone

nobody's playing a game of how to not to be spineless to win the game

but how to benefit from the realistic conditions

[dense agate]

being opportunistic isn't an ideology, literally means you won't strict yourself to a single set of principles or ideology, that you'd be flexible

[dense agate]

says the HOI4 scholar

[feral river]

you can go straight to death for not to be a spineless person in a war, while I can retreat from an aggressive move that may angry great powers that will end everything I have, then maximize my benefit.

[dense agate]

sure every situation is different, but i'm just stating things as they are, if someone wants to be spineless and it suits them best, good for them, but they are what they are

[feral river]

every leader made compromise.

so do I

[feral river]

I don't care

[dense agate]

yet you were so defensive about being spineless

[feral river]

as I said before, you can go straight to death in a war for not being a spineless person, but I do not, I use my brain to think about it and maybe just run to anywhere I can hide.

[inland charm]

Hi

[dense agate]

the average person is not someone who's leading a state, waky waky from the illusion

[feral river]

好死不如赖活着
good death isn't better than living with a shame

[inland charm]

We pray for him and his family 🌹

[feral river]

what a philosophy @dense agate

[dense agate]

i assume you're gonna add context to this half aborted statement

[ruby vector]

My prayers 🙏🏻

[dense agate]

just assume he died of old age

[feral river]

nope it was just a Chinese proverb

好死不如赖活着
good death isn't better than living with a shame

[dense agate]

you're aware we're talking in a general sense, not everything is about a ruler and his decisions

[inland charm]

It is painful to accept the reality but denying the truth won't solve anything

[feral river]

same logic in general sense

[dense agate]

not really bud

[feral river]

let me give you an example

[dense agate]

different game, different rules

[inland charm]

Btw this happened like 2 days ago. It's a repost

[dense agate]

hopefully Hamas gets what it deserves for causing this

[feral river]

you are a random solider who received the order from superior that tells you to conduct suicide attack (if you did that and you dead, then they will award you the highest appreciation in this country), if you don't do that you will be called a traitor and go straight to court and being executed, what you would do ?

[inland charm]

Do you mean Hejbullah (idk if I spelled it right) because he's in Lebanon

[dense agate]

irrelevant minecraft, but i'll go with the 72 virgins path

[dense agate]

by Hamas i somewhat meant Hamas

[feral river]

come on you asked different situation I provided one and you said irrelevant ?

how about you give out an example ?

[dense agate]

Hezbollah ain't going anywhere

[whole beacon]

[inland charm]

You make no sense btw

I would kind of agree with you if it began on October 7th

[dense agate]

i'm talking in general sense, problems faced and decisions made by a ruler are no analogous to the ones experienced by a citizen, you can try to find patterns but in general they are not similar

[feral river]

well example dude

I will never know what is your version of general sense

until you give me an example to show how it was

[dense agate]

not talking about the whole conflict, just the recent escalation

[feral river]

I would say most cases I don't have to be spineless to maximize my beneift why not ?

[whole beacon]

Why do u choose to dismiss history ?

[feral river]

only few cases I have to compromise with it

[dense agate]

i'm not going to prove a negative

[feral river]

what ?

[dense agate]

it suits my current narrative

[inland charm]

You can't ignore the past and blame Hamas for the recent activities. I think that's similar to changing history

[feral river]

what are you talking about since when I asked you to proof a negative

I didn't ask you to proof god exists

[inland charm]

👍🏻

[whole beacon]

I gotta say
Ur the most honest pro israeli ever.

10 outta 10

[dense agate]

you're asking me to prove how A and B aren't related, think about it

[feral river]

bro I asked you a simple example but you didn't give any of this

I just asked you for a simple example

nothing left

I already give you an example while you said irrelevant

[dense agate]

im not pro either sides, but if it wasn't clear from my first reply to that guy, im joking

[feral river]

what does that shit which relevant with your statement ?

[ruby vector]

Paying taxes out of the blue ?

[feral river]

I don't understand at all you are circling around with your point

[whole beacon]

Well that was sarcasm. I like it.

[feral river]

what the heck I didn't ask you for proof anything

[whole beacon]

Taxes ??!!

[inland charm]

This is not a war against any Hamas. This is a genocide.

[feral river]

sigh

what can I say

[dense agate]

mine it's simple, asking me to prove A isn't related to B isn't done by giving a single example, its like asking to prove a negative, can't give every possible scenario so we know for sure they aren't related

[feral river]

what the fuck is A and B

[whole beacon]

Don't feel uncomfortable with my presence @feral river
Don't stop at my account
It wasn't me who banned u after all

[feral river]

I don't understand you are making so fuck on this dude

I can't hold that anymore

[ruby vector]

Yess

[feral river]

I mean what lol

[whole beacon]

Meeh nvm

[feral river]

I didn't feel uncomfortable because you are here

[dense agate]

that the kinds of decisions/problems within a leader's framework, aren't that similar or related to the ones in a civilian framework

[feral river]

well you are good bro

[whole beacon]

Wdym by that?

[whole beacon]

Gtk bro

[ruby vector]

My little baby
U sent to Israelis supporters here

[feral river]

okay based on this statement, can you give out an example ?

[inland charm]

Idc who is here

[ruby vector]

[feral river]

and let me explain how to use this framework in a same way under different circumstances

actually not every leader was born as a leader

[dense agate]

stating an example is useless for my point, because it would mean nothing, unless i can state all possible scenarios and show how they're not related

[ruby vector]

Good job

[dense agate]

do you see why it's like asking me to prove the negative

[feral river]

hitler was a painter, stalin was a musician, mao zedong was a scholar

only few leader that was born as a leader, like hirohito

[feral river]

you can just give one and I will explain how it can be frameworked in the same way under different circumstances

because it's you saying that can't be the same under the different framework

[shy summit]

Ahem

[feral river]

but I can tell you I can, and I do

not everyone's mindset is same or similiar maybe you can realize that I was the one holding a unique mind between other people

even I was in between Chinese.

[ruby vector]

Wow amazing

[feral river]

I'm not saying I'm superior because I'm unique that was stupid

but maybe you can correlate with the power of mine is rapidly growing with my mindset is unique, which you can't really proof it but you can guess it

[dense agate]

minecraft you're straying too far away, my point was, just because there is state can act opportunistically and be "spineless" or anything else, that doesn't mean an individual, a civilian adhere to similar behavior, why would you think you should act like states when you're not one

it's that simple

[feral river]

because this is the way you can maximize your benefit.

[manic juniper]

I can perceive the huge amount of self control that Minecraft is going through after all these mentions of the conflict in the Middle East

[feral river]

you can barely see individual know how to benefit themselves at most, that's why we only got 0.1% billionaries

or 0.0001% politicians

[manic juniper]

It's like me turning a rock in the Amazon forest and resisting the absurd urge to photograph the insects

[dense agate]

genocide's too obvious yet not confirmed by the UN

[feral river]

those are the people who's holding the dominate power above other people's lives

I don't wanna be a loser like a random stranger on the street.

I will try to be one of the most powerful person in the world, at least I will try

[dense agate]

to benefit would mean you should play according to the system you're in

[feral river]

sigh people do need to control themselves

for me I invented a new word fit for myself: personality dictatorship

that means I will be any type of person to act following my will

that's the best weapon and defense force ever for me

I would be different if you are the guy who recognizes me maybe you think I'm fascist

but someone thinks I'm a total communist, someone thinks I'm a liberal, someone thinks I'm a converative

that all depends how I'm gonna interact with them to influence their perspective, to scam them

[dense agate]

this is called austism

[feral river]

lol

idk if this translation was correct but it doesn't relevant at all

[dense agate]

Zi Bi leeel

[dense agate]

it means what you've said you are, special

[feral river]

I'm an E type person not even an I

[manic juniper]

I once translated autism to different languages

I didn't expect Chinese, Korean and Japanese to have completely different terms for it

[manic juniper]

Putin

[feral river]

I didn't investigate much about Putin

[manic juniper]

He is like that

[feral river]

do you know what is autism in Chinese

[manic juniper]

No, what is it

[feral river]

that was used to describe a person that was extremely introvert that naturally cease relationship with other people.

or you can say that's a more depressed version of depression

[dense agate]

weird

[static pivot]

Taiwan will be free

[ruby vector]

WoW

[balmy matrix]

free taiwan

[static pivot]

wat

Indeed

Free Taiwan

[balmy matrix]

free sahara

[static pivot]

[ruby vector]

Free you

[static pivot]

Rosie.

[balmy matrix]

from rosie

[static pivot]

Shush.

[feral river]

Free Taiwan from ROC

[static pivot]

Free Taiwan from china

[feral river]

yeah Free Taiwan from Republic of China

[ruby vector]

No one can be free from me

[static pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/viet-nam-flag-flag-vnch-dai-loan-gif-12353950

[feral river]

you are right dude

[static pivot]

I'm so right

[balmy matrix]

nuh uh #freemike

[static pivot]

Free him now

[dense agate]

Except Taiwan is already free, no Commie managed to take it over

[static pivot]

its not free

[feral river]

no it's under evil regime of ROC

[static pivot]

Its under terror by china

[feral river]

we need to liberate it for Taiwan people

[static pivot]

and free canada

[dense agate]

ROC's evil and not CCP, sure

[feral river]

what if I say I'm a member of CCP ?

[ruby vector]

Nooooo

[ruby vector]

Money

[dense agate]

it would mean you'd still say same bullshit but you're wearing a suit this time

[feral river]

🤣 wearing a suit would be eaiser for me to counter a bullshit

[ruby vector]

I need money RIGHT NOOOOW

[feral river]

but I'm not a member of CCP

if I was I won't tell you

[stray quiver]

Good evening everyone, I have a question about studying in England, do you know how I can study in this country when I come from Europe?

[balmy matrix]

[ruby vector]

Applying for scholarship

[ruby vector]

Vivek said he is broke
So u still in jail

[balmy matrix]

u forgot that im a monkey

[stray quiver]

a what ?

[manic juniper]

Me

[manic juniper]

Literally me

[ruby vector]

Try to look up in Google for scholarships in England depending on your budget

[dense agate]

it's really unfortunate how the closure of google made it almost impossible to find info online

[soft geyser]

heyy!!!

[manic juniper]

Did they go bankrupt after paying the fine from Russia?

[dense agate]

that's called being miserable not just depressed

[dense agate]

you saw that lel, Russian courts be going crazy

[feral river]

you are an introvert ? I don't even think so

what's the first time we chat with each other ?

[manic juniper]

Yes, how many times did you see me in VC?

[stray quiver]

realy funny ! i just wanted to know this information from pepole who comme form the land

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[feral river]

then I'm an introvert too I don't do vc that much also lol

[ruby vector]

[feral river]

only talking some shit when I was drunk

in vc

[manic juniper]

I'm shy when it comes to talking

[static pivot]

Then you complain about getting muted

[manic juniper]

Especially in real life, I always shiver at the thought of approaching a stranger or even initiating conversation with someone I know

[ruby vector]

You're free to ask any questions whenever u want

[static pivot]

You're promoting drinking

[dense agate]

good luck, the server is around 60% British people

[feral river]

😭

[static pivot]

Under my watch

[static pivot]

Only 8%

[stray quiver]

it's sad lmao

[prisma cipher]

Russia again

[dense agate]

with strangers it's understandable, but with people you know it comes easy

[manic juniper]

Depends on who they are

[dense agate]

go look up actual forums instead

[manic juniper]

Only if they are/were extremely close friends, otherwise it's difficult to talk first

[soft geyser]

that's literally traumatising for introverts to approach a stranger

[manic juniper]

Or even reply, I can't choose between the two. One is more difficult than the other

[prisma cipher]

No one like to talk in real life

[manic juniper]

Sometimes you have to, because you have to ask for directions, or instructions on how to use a new device/program

[dense agate]

i can't stop myself from being autistic when im around friends, with strangers/classmates however, i turn into vladislav roslyakov

[manic juniper]

Now that I don't live in my country anymore I have to ask all the times

[dense agate]

wait you mean as in procrastinating from replying back ?

[soft geyser]

i'll search on internet rather than asking a stranger

[manic juniper]

No I mean when someone initiates a conversation, I'm caught by surprise in that very moment and I'm too stressed to think normally

[rich thorn]

fr fr

[manic juniper]

Local people are superior at giving directions most of the times, or advices on where to find something

Or if you need a quick explanation on how to use scientific machinery, I don't think you can understand much from a manual online unless you read it thoroughly

[dense agate]

isn't that country filled with anti-social folks, sounds like a nice place for an introvert

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/vodka-stolichnaya-vodka-time-wodka-russian-vodka-gif-22958058

[soft geyser]

once i become friends with someone then i am kinda extrovert but only for them

[dapper laurel]

What do you think about peach vodka?

[feral river]

peach vodka ???

wtf

[dapper laurel]

Peach Flavored Vodka

Never heard of it?

[prisma cipher]

No idea what is that

[feral river]

I never tried that at least

[dapper laurel]

😭😭

[rich thorn]

is it sweet?

[manic juniper]

Finland or Japan? Both are

[dapper laurel]

Yes

[feral river]

recently I just like to make coke bucket for me

[manic juniper]

Elders are great because you can't embarrass yourself in front of them

[feral river]

and share with my friends

[dense agate]

i only know Sweden is like that from my cousin

[feral river]

coke bucket 1st

[rich thorn]

less alcohol volume?

[manic juniper]

Funland is worse but not by much

[dapper laurel]

It's vodka for those who don't like the taste of alcohol

[prisma cipher]

Because they think you already stupid like everyone young people.

[manic juniper]

Estonia is Funland with more rude people

[dapper laurel]

I think it's the same

[dense agate]

that would've made it the perfect place for me if it wasn't painfully cold

[rich thorn]

around 40%?

[dapper laurel]

We also have strawberry vodka

[manic juniper]

it's nice during summer, especially the south

Actually the South is nice for almost half a year, it's really not that bad

[dapper laurel]

I don't even remember that night, imagine the alcohol volume of the vodka I drank

[prisma cipher]

Lol Russian don't like taste of alcohol, they just drink it in two big gups

[dapper laurel]

Wooooah

[feral river]

amazing vid

[prisma cipher]

We never do, like sipping alcohol

[feral river]

but im gonna sleep guys

have fun!

[rich thorn]

I wouldn't feel the difference if it was above 40, it would be the same as normal one for me. haha

[manic juniper]

Aren't you Algerian? A pro-Israel Algerian?

[stiff halo]

YES

[manic juniper]

Unusual

[stiff halo]

i just want drama , i hate both

[dense agate]

the only good thing from Finland for me is their funny English accent

we got israeli edits now ?

[stiff halo]

why not

[dense agate]

there should be one for the algerian civil war as well

[flat gull]

Hey guys

[dense agate]

it had good content

[manic juniper]

Yo you're here too

[flat gull]

Yes why

[manic juniper]

What about the... Nevermind there really isn't that much

[manic juniper]

This server and the other one almost have the same people in it

[flat gull]

Yeah you are right

[dapper laurel]

@feral river

[dense agate]

did they actually show soccer kek

[indigo knoll]

Why you are like a idiott

[stiff halo]

good question

[ruby vector]

Too old dude

We had one before

[ruby vector]

Mr Moroccan

[stiff halo]

hi

[orchid grove]

Is there a place to ask serious questions?

[weary belfry]

Sure. Also a place where you can discuss serious topics (religion, politics etc)

[clear meadow]

how educated are u on the subject of Israel and Palestine

[stiff halo]

not very well since i don't care

[clear meadow]

Yeah I figured

[stiff halo]

@clear meadow

[clear meadow]

I'm not mad

u won't piss me off by "I don't care" lol

if you're looking to piss people off then switch to #💭｜general

matter of fact dude

just change servers

u aren't slick

or cool

[stiff halo]

ok

[static pivot]

@stiff halo hello mate, keep this chat serious.

[manic juniper]

Looks like it did

[raw cave]

Huuh !! U from morroco

[weary belfry]

Lferda

Where have you been?

[round talon]

Hello everyone, my name is Nourhen. I'm 22 years old and I'm from Tunisia. I'm a programming student. I can speak English and a little bit of Spanish. I'm here to practice more and meet new friends. Nice to meet you all!

[little viper]

#📝｜introduction

[raw cave]

I come once a month to see how you are doing, then I disappear.

[weary belfry]

Yeah, I noticed that too

[raw cave]

الهريسة

[raw cave]

Has there been any change in this time that has passed or is the world still the same?

[clear meadow]

It did not, he was using the channel for the wrong purpose

[weary belfry]

There is no interesting change when you think abt it. Diff ppl, same behaviors

[ruby vector]

I am your neighbour

[raw cave]

Deep talk

[raw cave]

[raw cave]

Aaaaa ye3ni nty mn alger

[ruby vector]

Yeeeeeees
Damn girl

[stiff halo]

@raw cave marroci ?

[raw cave]

Ofc

[stiff halo]

rak kin a bro

[raw cave]

W h1dik damn girl 3laach ze3ma hhhhhhhhh

[stiff halo]

[raw cave]

Lh y3ezz rijaaaal finma kanou

[ruby vector]

Like wooow you got it gurl

[weary belfry]

When I see you, the first thing that comes to my mind is the old times btw

[raw cave]

mfhemtch wlkyn hanya
Jps nty mn Oran

[ruby vector]

No no I am not Oranian

[raw cave]

Yes I have beautiful memories with you

[stiff halo]

Iranian ?

[ruby vector]

Yes I am from Iran

[stiff halo]

nice

[raw cave]

Oh daaaaaamn I thought you were from Algeria

[ruby vector]

I am Algeria wallah l3adim

I think we ve met before lferda

[raw cave]

Face a face ??

[ruby vector]

No in chat cuz I remember only.one girl asked me if I am oranian

[raw cave]

Hmmmm
Algerian + iranian
That's so .....
يعجز لساني عن التعبير

[ruby vector]

[stiff halo]

@raw cave are you a woman

[raw cave]

This is weird. Everyone I talk to says it's like they've talked to me before. It's a weird feeling when people know you and you don't know them.

[raw cave]

Aywaaaaaaaaa

Fin wselnaaaaaaa

[ruby vector]

Hahahhahahah

[stiff halo]

sa3ma AH b misrya ?

[ruby vector]

How come you don't understand your language?

[charred trail]

#1006555275152588901

[raw cave]

Alaaaa
I'm a maaaan

[raw cave]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-war-gif-4786480

[thorny steeple]

Hallelujah!

[quaint dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ac-gif-18569012

[thorny steeple]

Kya bhai har jagah naach rhe hon?

[median temple]

Koi taklif?

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/please-continue-eric-cartman-south-park-s15e12-one-percent-gif-23108299

@thorny steeple wake up girl 🥱😔

[thorny steeple]

Morning stacy

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

In serious chat XD

[thorny steeple]

😉🫰🏼

[feral river]

really ?

[feral river]

Our central bank, Bank of China and government monopoly telecom company, China telecom officially released their anime character(vtuber) to represent themselves 😭😭😭

[rose eagle]

Shiet

[prisma cipher]

Dorud

[feral river]

Btw I like this character looks pretty and sexy

[rose eagle]

what app are you using

[feral river]

bilibili

https://bilibili.com

[feral river]

This is Chinese YouTube

A video of Chinese browser company’s anime character singing a Japanese song to attract anime lovers

This company lmao

[median temple]

Delusional

[feral river]

Maybe this is what you probably like

[rose eagle]

oh i thought blibli was a regular anime site

[feral river]

No it was Chinese YouTube now

Few years ago we have a lot of video websites and bilibili was founded on the basis of anime lovers

So it was an anime site before but it transformed to YouTube-like website because of an exponential explosive growth driving by content creators

And they beat other video platforms ass

[dense agate]

mine, you just woke up ?

[feral river]

Nope I woke up 6 hours ago

Now I’m out for a stroll

[dense agate]

good, it's saturday, we should get you and Ando in a VC

and have a talk in a VC for once

[feral river]

For now ?

Wait me I’m heading back

[dense agate]

when is Ando available

[dense agate]

looks like a noisy place

[feral river]

I got a German vs Soviet match in hoi4 with ando he didn’t let me finish 😠

It was like 2 weeks ago

[dense agate]

he plays HOI4 ?

[feral river]

Busan, South Korea

[feral river]

He do we promised to have a solo I play as German he’s Soviet

But he left in between the match

[dense agate]

Busan is Bussin

[feral river]

We didn’t finish that yet

[dense agate]

why doesn't he play as Italy, so he can see how shit that country was back then

[dense agate]

tactical retreat

[rose eagle]

I thought youku is chinese youtube

[ruby vector]

From 1-10 how much u give to Chinese YouTube?

[feral river]

Lmao

Dude you make me laugh in the center of the crossway

[feral river]

Well idk based on what certain criteria if you would say experience I will give 8

[feral river]

Youku is almost dead

[rose eagle]

Why?

[feral river]

excessive ads, poor user experience and management inefficiency inside the company

[rose eagle]

I play rise of nation roblox

[magic bridge]

Guys

i know how we end the isreal palastine conflict

[feral river]

you mean Israeli hamas war ?

win the war, problem solved

[magic bridge]

No i've thought of a better idea

we give isreal and palastine back to the british

[feral river]

that can't be let british come back to rule here

lmao

[uncut tiger]

What war

Genocide is war?

[feral river]

war on terror

[magic bridge]

bro forget October the 7th happend

[uncut tiger]

It's not just one day

Oct 7 was just the beginning

[magic bridge]

look man the reason the war happend was because hamas attacked isreali citizens its not a genocide its a response to a terrorist attack

[uncut tiger]

Killing children

What a manly response

[magic bridge]

So did Hamas

[thorny steeple]

Any Scandinavian people in here

[magic bridge]

i would show you images but it would likely get taken down

[uncut tiger]

I don't believe your bs

[magic bridge]

Private chat i can show images

[uncut tiger]

Ai generated dark web bullpoop

[magic bridge]

not ai generated

accept so i can send you

[dense agate]

opium war : the sequel

except this time they get the Chinaman addicted to anime girls

Good luck fighting them when you're whole nation is filled with gooners

[feral river]

I'm addicated too 😭

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-bell-game-of-thrones-walk-of-atonement-cersei-lannister-gif-16635977892557113898

[dense agate]

where tf is Ando

@dapper laurel Rome is rising, waky waky

[feral river]

idk he's fucked in the toilet I guess

[vast heart]

@white mulch tf! did i disrespect you or something ?

[manic juniper]

This is the worst way to make a point ever

[feral river]

im gonna have a pvp match

see ya later

[dapper laurel]

Wooooah wooooah

I still have to go to the toilet for now

[dapper laurel]

It doesn't need to rise, because it never fell

[cinder quartz]

minecraft as japan naaahh

[formal pilot]

If everyone closed their eye, would there be no colours?

[magic bridge]

Guys

i know how we improve isreal and palastine relations

[cinder quartz]

color depends on the wavelength of light reflected from the surface and entering our eye. if the light does not enter our eye, this does not mean that there will be no light wave

[raw dagger]

If you see color as variations of light, not seeing the light doesn’t make it disappear

[formal pilot]

Colour in real life doesn't exist lol

[formal pilot]

Our brain transfer wavelengths to a specific colour

[cinder quartz]

I just explained to you

[formal pilot]

Read my question again

It's about colours not wavelengths

[formal pilot]

It appears only in our brain

[stiff halo]

it appears only in our brain? can u explain more please

[cinder quartz]

the colors we see depend on the wavelength of light

[raw dagger]

In this case your brain exists, doesn't it ?

But perhaps you want to say that color depends on the people who see it

[formal pilot]

White light is made up of different wavelengths
Every wavelength is associated with diff colours in our brajn
Wavelengths enter through our eyes and go to occipital lobe

[dense agate]

playing as Brazil, has to be ironic

[formal pilot]

occipital lobe converts that wavelength to colour

[dense agate]

ofc, Turkey is still standing strong

[dapper laurel]

According to the philosophy of the ancient Greeks, color does not really exist. For Parmenides there was a sensible and false reality, and the true reality that can only be understood according to reasoning, so if we want to put it this way....

[stiff halo]

i agree

[rich thorn]

is the wavelength of same frequency seen as different colour by some animals and humans? in some unusual casases

[dense agate]

can there be a purpose to life if there was no humans ? can it be sound if there wasn't an ear ?

[dapper laurel]

Turkey stronk 💪🏿🇹🇷

🇮🇱🫱🏻‍🫲🏿🇹🇷

[formal pilot]

That's really really really interesting question, yeah some animals can see diff colours

We humans can see only 7 colours and their combinations

Some squids can see 8 or even 9 colours and their combinations

[raw dagger]

I didn't talk about it in a philosophical way, but yes, that's also a point of view

[rich thorn]

hmmm if this is true then perhaps there is no objective colour associated to any specific wavelengths.

[dapper laurel]

😭

[hidden marten]

If there’s no purpose of life then we can create one

[formal pilot]

It's all made up in our brain

[dapper laurel]

But in this case this philosophical conception is related to reality