🧠｜serious-chat

[desert nebula]

Well that Syrian leader became a president by accident Syria isn't monarchy and he ruled after his father + he was studying to be doctor but suddenly his older brother died by an accident ofc and he found himself in a place he can't handle

[manic juniper]

Genocide almost successful I guess

[desert nebula]

Ottomon Turkish it was cool

[thorny steeple]

Yessir

But that's ancient a relic

[desert nebula]

They're giving the oil in Syria to us by any right?
Türkiye also said they're aiming to create a safe zone both have the same excuses

[thorny steeple]

Turkish Syria

[feral river]

Well how it is an accident ?

[desert nebula]

😭if they want to preserve it they can btw in Hatay(previously Syrian territory) there's people who still speak using the Syrian dialect everyday while others who completely forgot about their origin and identify as a Turk. They don't even know a word in Arabic.
I don't think speaking in Kurdish is banned but it's normal since children will be influenced by their pioneers. Children who are born outside or surrounded by a specific group usually have this problem then the responsibility mainly depends on the parents

but I feel the article is an exaggeration I haven't seen any Kurd that doesn't know Kurdish

[thorny steeple]

disunited collapse Syria, if the government there collapses

[feral river]

I would say it’s already done if he’s in power by any measures possible, coup, election, inheritance.

[desert nebula]

There's many other ethnicities in Türkiye. It'd be a nice idea though if it was taught as an additional language besides Greek and Arabic
In my school the additional language was French or German or Spanish or Italian

[feral river]

I don’t see you support any side in Syrian Civil War

[desert nebula]

[thorny steeple]

JOHNTOMMAN EMPIRE

[feral river]

For me I would pick Americans they are the game changer if they want they can wipe out the entire Syria in a week

[desert nebula]

His brother died in a car accident and he was standing médecine outside not even prepared to be a president

[desert nebula]

what

[thorny steeple]

Nothing much

[desert nebula]

the government is collapsing it's a matter of time till we lose most of the Syrian Territories bc of him

[desert nebula]

There's a country called oman 😭🇴🇲

[thorny steeple]

Iran from oman

[dense agate]

by the right of controlling the land that contains it, and not like it's a fully bad thing, the infurstacture would be build by the US.
for Turkey however, the oil there is more like a bonus, they're more into it for the sake of enlarging their sphere of influence and to curb any Kurdish militia in that region

[desert nebula]

Lol

[dense agate]

??

Oman is a chill place

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[dense agate]

arguably the safest place in the middle east

[thorny steeple]

Better than I ran

[desert nebula]

They want to protect their borders that's the main reason why the Turkish miltia exists in Syria

[desert nebula]

It's faraway and somehow isolated you can't compare it to some countries that are surrounded by the worst

[dense agate]

are you claiming that Turkey has no interest in having a strong proxy or even a puppet regime in Syria ?

[desert nebula]

Iran is beautiful even the people are friendly but the government is bad

[dense agate]

that's one of the reasons even though Yemen and Iran is nearby, but they have strong teaching about tolerance, at least when it comes to different sects

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[thorny steeple]

Imagine the houthis reunited Yemen

[desert nebula]

Türkiye supports mainly the syrian Türkmen leaders here if they had an ottoman mentality then I'd think they want to take it back since it was important for them but now they don't want to interfer in the actual war in fact Erdoğan tried to restore his ties with Asad(president of Syria) but it failed

I used to think Türkiye is the best but now my mind changed but if I had to choose between Türkiye or any Kurdish organizion that wants to draw another border in Syria I'll choose Türkiye

[desert nebula]

They know how to keep good relationships with everyone there was even a meme about this showing all the middle east fighting while oman sleeping lol

[dense agate]

i'm aware of their attempts to fix the Turkish-Syrian relations, but thing is, just like any other country in that region, Turkey too is looking to spread their sphere of influence or at least make strong allies, which they seriously lack, if they don't go after an opportunity their current and/or potential adversaries would claim it instead.

[dense agate]

if there is ever a fruitful Kurdish secession attempt, they'd be taking small regions from Syria

[feral river]

you are just not the people who's benefiting under that government.

there's no anywhere that government serving 100% of their population but majority of people

or serve for certain class of people

it was just like how you are blaming a company which their stock price is going up while you are not a shareholder

what a perfect analogy for this situation dude

it was just lame to blame the authority

or someone is biting the hand that offers you a cheap stuff ?

what the fuck is wrong with these people

buying cheap stuff produced in prison while saying free upon everyone, fuck authority and government, what the fuck

literally put themselves in a situation that shouldn't be like that, government won't give a fuck if you don't do anything

and see what you have got ? tanks

why people wouldn't learn from it, sigh

[shy summit]

I’m gonna say this with as much poise, courtesy and decorum as I can muster. @feral river

Not every state is a totalitarian regime with the intent of domination.

Most people do not subscribe to the concept of only securing victory or only winning.

And I think I do not speak for just myself when I say that we are tired of it.

Many of us hold other ideals above mere victory.

Understand that this lack of concern you continue to show for the sanctity of human life is not only concerning, it’s exhausting.

We are tired of it.

Nations and peoples are far more complex and this lack of concern for human values, for people is frankly just a turn off to the conversation.

[desert nebula]

I understand every country interfering is doing it for their own benefit

[desert nebula]

How old is this map😭 Everytime i check it it changes

[shy summit]

It’s a complex situation, to put it mildly…

[thorny steeple]

Indeed what's the age

[shy summit]

Where’d you go to get the map that it keeps changing btw?

[desert nebula]

Oh wait lol it's dividing it regarding to sects💀I thought the colors represents military control but Kurd is an ethnicity and the majority are Muslims so what's this all the country is mixed ...

The current situation

[shy summit]

Asaah that makes more sense

[feral river]

well first of all I wanna say: classic for leftists, they always trying to get rid of some reality in between people and state in certain issues, but those things are unneglectable which exists all the time and regardless of whether you follow it or against it, it was always exist.

[desert nebula]

And the occupied golan too

[feral river]

you can follow your ideals, you can follow your everything, but what's behind this, is a victory which concluded by your state.

[shy summit]

I’m done with your fascistic realism for this week Mine. I’m not engaging with it. I’ve already got enough on my plate.

[feral river]

this is unneglectable

[desert nebula]

idk 😭I focused on the colors but nvm

[shy summit]

Take it up with someone else

[thorny steeple]

Still broken in half

[desert nebula]

yeahh

[shy summit]

So it’s a religious conflict?

[feral river]

I'm not a fascist, I'm stating that everything comes up a price, when you are enjoying to have such luxury to chasing your ideal or trying to achieve it, what you really have done is destroy it completely.

and it is logical 100%

[shy summit]

I figured it was more-so a territorial dispute?

[feral river]

winning is not something you can leverage, that's the requirement for survive.

just like food.

[shy summit]

K jan

[desert nebula]

Bro why are you so smart you think there'd be revolutions in every city if he was benefitting the majority
Btw let me tell you something my family held an important position in the gov if we remained on their side we'll keep living happily as we used to do 😅but it was about supporting a killer or not if you don't have a problem to shake your hand with a killer and help him to kill your people who are not benefitting under the government then again you need therapy seriously

[shy summit]

Ignore him

[desert nebula]

He's living in his own fantasy world fr 😭

[shy summit]

He’s been on the same fucking talking point for a week, like a broken record. Save your synapses for intelligible conversation

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[thorny steeple]

@feral river change talk points

[feral river]

I don't know why you can probably enjoy your middle class life in a high position in the government but you decided to get rid of it, well that's your freedom to do so, no one stops you from doing it but things will not change because you left the government, there's hundreds of thousands of people wanted to be in that position and they will work better without burden to work for the government and fight against enemies

[desert nebula]

Not a religious conflict if you're talking about the conflict in Syria but later some people took advantage of the situation using religion.

[shy summit]

Sounds pretty typical its an easy pathway of both motivation and radicalization

[desert nebula]

unfortunately

[feral river]

that's what they are talking about their crazy dream of achieving their idealist utopia

[covert quiver]

He’s from Communist China, are you not surprised, are you not entertained.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed what happened in 1989 tianameng square

[covert quiver]

Idk was at a raging kegger party

[desert nebula]

even if he's a communist his mentality is out of this planet I'm surprised everytime

[shy summit]

[feral river]

first of all, I'm not a communist, I'm anti-communist, second there are much people like me in this planet

[shy summit]

I’m pretty sure there’s an Alloy Of Law Quote for this one.

[feral river]

planet is likely to run as what I have said, not what you have said.

[covert quiver]

All I know is when I got back to the square there were a bunch of dead men and some bish waving a red flag like it was going out of fashion

7/10 the beer was the only good thing

[shy summit]

”He’s like a rash. The more you scratch him, the more irritating he gets.”
Brandon Sanderson, The Alloy of Law (Mistborn, #4)

[feral river]

we never lack of people to work for government and fight against enemies, they just need a fair paycheck

money will settle all of them, if not, more money.

[thorny steeple]

True lol

[feral river]

that's the real capitalism with the nature of human

[thorny steeple]

"All things are created and destined to be broken someday.
I think being broken or damaged is never a bad thing." - Kiyokawa Hiroki

[desert nebula]

I don't think that's normal take my advice and visit a therapist
Well, the world is full of wonders

[covert quiver]

Let’s all be happy their population is in generic free fall.

[shy summit]

They wouldn’t be teaming up with other genocidal maniacs if they were doing well.

[covert quiver]

“Why are there so many dead people and a busted up tank”

• Chimki at Tiananmen Square 4 June 1989

[feral river]

idk but I consider you are one of them because you are either not the shareholder or the one who's participating it, if you went ground when you find something in a bombed spot you won't say something like this.

[thorny steeple]

And their fake communism will die

[thorny steeple]

Indeed why so many deaths

[feral river]

and when you are earning 7-12% per year by your portfoilo which funding the military complex you won't say that shit

that's the real thing

[shy summit]

Think they’ll finally invent something without trying to copy US schematics off of Wish.com?

[covert quiver]

An original thought

Something not seen in that land since 1914

[shy summit]

[thorny steeple]

Then fall apart later

[thorny steeple]

1912 Qing goes down

[covert quiver]

China fakes everything part 478

[feral river]

I know what the heck have happened in tiananmen square and I support the moves of the government to suppress the enemies uprising and attempt to taking over the regimes.

[covert quiver]

Ma’am this is a Starbucks, you need to calm down.

[feral river]

I fully aware what the fuck have happened in Tiananmen square

[thorny steeple]

Here, we have an example of how paper thin are the walls, Because they are literally made out of paper

[covert quiver]

Go hug someone or whatever the equal is in what’s left of the land of the Chinese

It will do you good

Go eat a snickers

You’re not yourself when you’re hungry

[feral river]

lol I'm in South Korea dude

I'm rich

[shy summit]

Only on VPN

[covert quiver]

Ok I mean I didn’t ask but ok

Weird flex

Mans like pshhh weakling I’m in Singapore

And I have massive cock

[feral river]

I ever been to a lot of countries I travel internationally every year

oh Singapore I visited Singapore in 2023

[covert quiver]

Like ok buddy do you

Wow humour is not their forte

Yikes

Hit and a miss

Right over his head

Yeeeesh

[feral river]

I landed in Changi airport went down to the subway, that green one I mean the East-West line go straight to Chinatown to have a rest

dude

[covert quiver]

Guess they can fake everything besides having a genuine bone in their body that comprehends basic humour

[feral river]

Singapore is awesome

[covert quiver]

Woooow this man is just not helping his situation

This is rough

God are you there it’s me Margret the man trying to teach humour to the Chinese man

[shy summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ua1DgHeIuX4?si=EPGvRf1uOJ0apSC9
This level of energy rn

[covert quiver]

That’s how we beat them boys they can’t do jokes

That’s how we figure out who’s the real enemy

[feral river]

my time in Singapore in 2023

[covert quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-now-how-i-wanted-to-spend-my-night-david-david-rose-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20775869

Teaching humour and sarcasm to a oblivious China man

[feral river]

dude's speechless when I'm using iPhone 15 and show how I traveled internationally

[covert quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ivankushchenko-gif-26660592

[feral river]

lmao

[covert quiver]

Someone remind me not to let my children marry them

I can’t have a son in law who is just dead pan no humour

[shy summit]

Chimki that’s some serious “I’m not a racist but” energy.

[covert quiver]

Like the nationalistic stroking my preverbal dick I’m rich UwU look at me energy I can get over but lack of understanding sarcasm

[feral river]

I wonder what he will say if I didn't show it

[covert quiver]

well that’s where I draw the line

[feral river]

maybe find something to eat in prison ?

dude is totally roasted

[covert quiver]

Oh I am I accept that. It was a struggle but I feel so much more comfortable when I’m open about it now.

But it’s ok I’m not 100% white

So it doesn’t count

[shy summit]

Idk man maybe ask the Uyghurs they probably know what prison food tastes like over there.

Actually probably not

[feral river]

oh their condition is improving recently reported by my friend

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[feral river]

they can have some meat occasionally

and they got more break time

more flexible work time all good

[covert quiver]

So is this a woman

Or a man

[shy summit]

He/Him/His

[covert quiver]

To quote my all time favourite character

You really have to strip them down to figure it out

Lucille Bluth

Arrested development

[feral river]

I hope one day they can work for free as what they want to work with a fair working time not strict 12 hours+ work per day

[covert quiver]

That’s/cute/babes

[shy summit]

[covert quiver]

We know the rough age

Since that can explain a lot

[feral river]

look at our friendly neighbor Kim Jong Un they are only doing worse in there.

[shy summit]

Friendly. 🤣

[covert quiver]

That’s not a number sweetie

Try again

You got this

[shy summit]

Bro sent men by the thousands to rescue Putin from embarrassment only to realize that he made the mistake of sending them to a place with actual food.

Throw some Twinkies and watch them defect by the platoons

[feral river]

they are making a good payment from these troops, putin pay them 2000 USD per month and they receive 200 which is a large number in North Korea

and Kim's receiving more technology support and more military structure from Putin

both are developing their technology and economy for people

[shy summit]

Cute, they think they’re actually a threat

[covert quiver]

https://youtu.be/hwtWXdKCRmc?si=wQWhBdQVgKjDWL1M

Not relevant

Just a good song

[shy summit]

Mood

[covert quiver]

Low key gay

But still a good song

[feral river]

still no idea when people call me a fascist

[covert quiver]

Recently

That’s when

who’s gonna tell him

[thorny steeple]

Indeed who

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gonna-tell-gif-24959302

[prisma cipher]

It's not even clear yet at what level they will participate, if it happens at all. But this guy has already assessed the whole situation. it's a win win situation. Russia gets fighters, and Kim gets experience in a real combat operation, I'm not even talking about military technologies

what I mean is that the military needs people both in the attack and in the rear, they need to be able to build defensive structures, provide logistics of ammunition and fuel. I don't think they will let the Koreans attack so that they will immediately be captured and start talking on video.

But it just some guesses

[dense agate]

yea this is about which land is controlled by who, not very reflective of the demographics.
i need to recheck if US companies started extracting oil there or it's still just talks

[dense agate]

tanks on civilians don't work as intended, flashback to the last coup attempt in Turkey 2016

[feral river]

that's because they did not get enough tanks

btw that's not civilian, that's enemies

if they are civilians they should not get involved in this

[dense agate]

@feral river i know you'll deny it, but this is the China you want to see

[feral river]

and there's no any regime will suppress innocent civilian that cause 0 threat to the authority

[dense agate]

huh ? aren't the enemies the ones attempting the coup ?

[dense agate]

the civilians stood outside trying to stop it peacefully, some of them even stood in front on tanks, i wonder where i saw that before...

[feral river]

I prefer this one lol

[dense agate]

terrible screenshot, text box covers taiwan

[feral river]

classic

[dense agate]

Taiwan, my beloved

https://tenor.com/view/nuclear-bomb-bomb-nuke-atom-bomb-atomic-bomb-gif-6643000633486981560

[feral river]

well no they won

I won't judge if you can launch an operation that could won against your enemies and change the regime

[dense agate]

no, the coup failed, they got rizzed later for treason

[feral river]

then you know who's the enemy

no one cares a lame loser

[dense agate]

enemy is a relative term, but it seems for you it equates to the one losing

[ashen mortar]

we got intellectual kids before gta vi

[feral river]

because I don't stand for a loser

it can't be more clear than this right ?

[low jackal]

🤦

[magic olive]

She’s being serious

[slate hornet]

I live in adoption center pls adopt me

[formal pilot]

God is always with you

[lunar ivy]

China has no interest in the Middle East at all. China's interest is in Asia.

Why people associate China with the Middle East is beyond me, China just buys oil from them.

[ruby vector]

[ruby vector]

My bad

Thanks for clarification

[prisma cipher]

Chill

[manic juniper]

But the Middle East is in Asia

[lunar ivy]

hope Kamala win

[manic juniper]

Why is that

[lunar ivy]

Because I hate Trump.

[manic juniper]

Yeah he's pretty hateable

[lunar ivy]

agreed

[smoky pagoda]

Real real and he's a bit gay as well

[manic juniper]

You seem obsessed with gays

[smoky pagoda]

The word maybe yes but I'm not gay

You seem gay but you're hot so not possible

[manic juniper]

Weird

[smoky pagoda]

I'm just trolling chill

[dreamy venture]

Wtf are u talking about

[uncut tiger]

What's happening

And Who's gay

This is serious chat, Houdini

[smoky pagoda]

You being gay

[manic juniper]

Hanee

[smoky pagoda]

Nah wtf I'm not gay

You're

[manic juniper]

Why do you keep using your gaydar then

[smoky pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[smoky pagoda]

Just to troll

[manic juniper]

It's not an insult to be gay, don't feel offended

[smoky pagoda]

Hhahahhah 🤣

Real I'm not gay I just say it to troll people

I love my bbg

[manic juniper]

Yeah and the marmot packs up the chocolate

[smoky pagoda]

[smoky pagoda]

Huh

Who's marmot?

[dreamy venture]

U father gay bro

[dreamy venture]

Second

[rancid elbow]

It's crazy to discover the lives of the people I once knew after many years. A former online friend of mine got married 2 years ago and has kids now. My favorite childhood YouTuber did the same thing a month ago and quit his career... What the heck is going on? Am I the only dude who actually enjoys singlehood?

[smoky pagoda]

Nope

My father has 2 wifes it's not gay to have 2 wifes

[manic juniper]

No, I'm enjoying it too

[dreamy venture]

Dont lie

He cant have 2 wife if he gay

[smoky pagoda]

I'm not

[manic juniper]

Felt weird when my cousin got married since she's only slightly older than I am and I recall playing on her PS2 when I was 4

[smoky pagoda]

Exactly he's not gay and has 2 wifes

[manic juniper]

But then I remember that I got older and it's normal

[dreamy venture]

If his wife look like man i would believe u

[smoky pagoda]

They don't

[rancid elbow]

Glad to know I'm not alone. It kinda feels like my social circle is shrinking. Maybe it's for the best

[dreamy venture]

Send photo, i don’t believe u

[smoky pagoda]

Nah haram they do niqab

[manic juniper]

It's better, better to have less friends with a deeper connection and interconnected lore than placeholders

[smoky pagoda]

You're not mahram

[rancid elbow]

Well said

Speaking of quality, I have only one friend right now with whom I happily share some of my values and views on life

I sometimes wonder why people go through legalizing their relationships

[formal pilot]

Unless you're victim of pyramid schemes

[manic juniper]

I'm more of a fan of circular schemes

Or hexagonal

[hallow sable]

💀

Ushuaia < Search u will like it

[rancid elbow]

According to stats, most marriages and divorces are overwhelmingly initiated by women. I understand the female biological clock and all that, but no matter how you put it, involving the government in one's personal life seems to me the most unintelligent step a man can ever make. What are your thoughts on that? @manic juniper

I think it's a part of so-called 'falling in love' when a man literally gives up his rationality

[manic juniper]

Women are often victims of violence coming from their partner so I can understand why so many of them initiate divorce first rather than the husbands
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-against-women

[rancid elbow]

I don't think it is the case anymore, at least in the West

Women nowadays have more rights than men

[manic juniper]

No, it's still the case even in the West. For example my country did not have any criminal code on marital rape until at least 2015 or 2017, don't remember now. It's pretty recent

[uncut tiger]

West=US

(typical non western's assumption)

[rancid elbow]

Exactly, that's basically what I meant

[uncut tiger]

It's more dangerous for the men in US

Women have their rights their, a woman could divorce her husband and take away the kids from the man

[manic juniper]

The study I sent is from 2021

[manic juniper]

Most men don't seek to even see their children, that's why they get assigned to the women. There is just no interest from the father

[uncut tiger]

That varies person to person

[manic juniper]

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/
Twenty-seven percent of fathers COMPLETELY abandon their children after divorce

[uncut tiger]

After divorce.....

[rancid elbow]

I see. I can't speak for other parts of the globe but domestic violence isn't as prevalent as it used to be in the US

[rancid elbow]

Totally

[manic juniper]

Yeah, why do you think they get assigned to the mother? Because the father simply doesn't bother

[manic juniper]

Do you have studies on that?

[uncut tiger]

It's just 27%

Not even majority

[ashen mortar]

[manic juniper]

27% are the men that completely cut off any contact with their children, this doesn't count the men that do it to a great extent but not completely

In comparison it's just 8% for women

[uncut tiger]

Why divorce in the first place

Theres no domestic violence in the US

[manic juniper]

Men simply need to take their responsibilities for once

[uncut tiger]

Still women are the first to divorce

[uncut tiger]

Women need to be more grateful ....

[manic juniper]

Of what? Bad husbands? Lol

[thorny steeple]

That's a very controversial statement.

[rancid elbow]

I don't. My subjective opinion is solely based on my own social circle and the people I had the chance to talk to in my entire life.

Do your "studies", however, count false accusations? It's pretty trendy among somehow wealthy individuals

[manic juniper]

Not that much to me, I hear it all the times

[uncut tiger]

All husbands aren't lazy late night drinkers

Many are hardworking and willing to provide

[thorny steeple]

Talking in general.

[manic juniper]

There is a margin of error and studies on the amounts of false accusations, they're negligible compared to the proven cases

[manic juniper]

I never said they are...?

I'm just asking what should women be grateful for?

[uncut tiger]

Grateful of the efforts husbands put in

[manic juniper]

Stick to the topic

[manic juniper]

Yeah, we are. So?

[uncut tiger]

Ok, we agree.

[manic juniper]

Nope we don't, you said they should be more grateful

[uncut tiger]

And you said we are.

[manic juniper]

Did you just change your position?

[uncut tiger]

So we agree

[rancid elbow]

Imo the issue lies on misinterpretation of the meaning of marriage itself. It's not about happiness as many claim, it's about duty

[restive junco]

Wat is serious chat for

[thorny steeple]

I believe that social media has created unreasonable standards, and that individuals sometimes have far too high expectations.

[manic juniper]

I don't think that anyone associates marriage with happiness more than they do with commitment, it has been about commitment for some time now

It used to be about duty long ago, like 2000 years ago when a marriage was about having children together. So even homosexuals were expected to marry with the other sex and procreate because it simply was the norm

[uncut tiger]

Isn't the purpose of marriage starting a family?

[manic juniper]

No, people have different goals with their partners, it's not necessarily about starting a family

[uncut tiger]

Family goals, right?

[manic juniper]

A friend of mine is the daughter of an unmarried couple, they have been together for longer than my parents are and they are married, yet her parents are not

They are planning to marry soon, her daughter is now 20 though

[uncut tiger]

That's weirddddddd

What's the point of not marrying

Huh

[manic juniper]

What's the point of marrying, it is not going to change their relationship

[uncut tiger]

You literally have a 20 year old that binds you together

[uncut tiger]

Yea it does, there's room for separation if there ain't a marriage

[manic juniper]

They will not love one another more simply because there is a contract that says they are married now

[uncut tiger]

But the relation of husband and wife is stronger than just two lovers

[manic juniper]

Divorces are legal and easy to go through

[manic juniper]

I can't see any difference between them and married couples

[uncut tiger]

MADE easy ofc

That's why I said US is actually dangerous for men instead of women

[manic juniper]

I don't care about the US

[uncut tiger]

Ok I'll just say WEST in place of US

[manic juniper]

The West isn't a monolith

And it's definitely not dangerous for men or women alike

[smoky pagoda]

[rancid elbow]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from the conversation we've been having so far, you seem one of those radical feminists who always blame men for everything except taking accountability for their own actions. Those victims of sexual abuse are the only ones to blame. Why so? Because it's your and only your responsibility to know that emotionally-driven men aren't suitable candidates to begin with. Men who have no control over their feelings are dangerous to society as men often manifest their emotions in a terribly violent way. It's called common sense

The truth is almost everything bad that happens to us is caused by our own inadequacy

[manic juniper]

That's a whole load of assumptions, I simply showed stats on what I believe to be true, meanwhile you two only brought forth anecdotes and assumptions. I'm not feminist anymore because they believe in the equality of sexes/genders, something that I realised doesn't make sense anymore.

We can have a civil discussion based off facts instead of feelings, otherwise this feels just like one of the many instances where I am arguing with someone that doesn't like to challenge their personal beliefs

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge_b_1617115

[smoky pagoda]

Real real

[manic juniper]

If to you the fault of domestic violence falls on women not recognising violent partners, then it's not the fault of women if they divorce first either, because men should know in advance which women are likely to divorce or not.

[feral river]

well in genetics, female has their own gene to foster them to take care their kids.

but male doesn't have that shit that much

[rancid elbow]

Typical case of victim mindset. It absolutely and utterly is her mistake. I'm extremely selective to whom to open up, needles to say to whom let my guard down. Just like that I don't go out at 3 am because I know what may happen to me. So again, it's common sense and mitigating potential risks

[manic juniper]

Then it is objectively better to assign the children to the mother

[feral river]

the role based on gene for men is to fck, and for woman is reproduction, feed and care.

that's inequality in genetics

[manic juniper]

Yes, it's the fault of the man if they blame women when they initiate divorce and the men weren't able to recognise their partner's true intentions all along. Case closed.

[feral river]

why don't you guys just drop your kids to your grandpa or grandma to take care of them

[manic juniper]

Don't marry if you fear divorce from women then

[feral river]

if you don't have enough time to do so

[manic juniper]

My mum did that with my aunt when she was at work

She used to leave me at her place and I would play videogames with her

[rancid elbow]

So you still are a feminist, I see. Let's end the discussion here then. I have nothing else to say to somebody who can't even hold herself accountable

[feral river]

I was born and I don't even recognize my dad and my mom after I have consciousness until 3 years ago I get back to my house and I see this is my mom and dad.

and I can't believe it

[manic juniper]

That's not being a feminist, you don't even know what it means. That is simply using the same logic you used on women, but on men. Take responsibility.

Don't use an argument if you are not ready for it to be turned against you soon afterwards

[feral river]

well pretty like me I was raise by my grandpa and grandma I always live with them instead of my dad and mom

my dad and mom is travelling around the world

they have ever been to Europe, Russia, Hong Kong, Turkey etc. even Taiwan

[manic juniper]

That's nice, I also passed a lot of time with my grandparents, they would make me sit on the reindeer

https://tenor.com/view/herd-of-reindeer-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-reindeers-communal-reindeer-group-of-reindeer-gif-19048277

[feral river]

that make me having a very special feeling on my dad and mom and I don't really trust them for a long time

[manic juniper]

Why is that, because you didn't see them often?

[feral river]

and I get back to my grandpa's house almost once a week

[feral river]

hard to express, it was just like being planned to separate to your original family which is my grandpa and grandma and came to a new environment everything is uncertain.

[rancid elbow]

First of all, I'm not protecting the low man who dared to harm the weak. Second, your worldview is limited by biased studies that you yourself didn't conduct. If we want badly, I'm pretty sure we can find one that "proves" eating hamburger is actually healthy

[feral river]

because almost in 3 years we barely see each other and my grandpa & grandma very love me, play with me, teach me how to write script, and cite the Mao zedong's poem

[manic juniper]

You can show me that study then if there is one, instead of whining that I provided evidence and you did not.

And yeah you just shifted blame on the victim, maybe don't do that next time or avoid using an argument that can easily be turned against you, it's a lesson even I had to learn at some point 👍🏻

[feral river]

it was like this is my family to me, until that day of separation everything's changed

[manic juniper]

Day of separation? What happened?

[feral river]

well because I have to go the pre-primaily school

then we separated because my home is nearby that school and that school is still premium for folks

[manic juniper]

But yes I understand that, I kind of have an higher esteem of my aunt rather than my parents as well since she is more understanding, down to earth and more kind in general

[feral river]

but still not a big problem I can visit to my grandpa house and live there 3 days a week like in Friday, Saturday and Sunday everything is great

[manic juniper]

So did you start seeing them less often since then?

[rancid elbow]

Sadly, we can't save those who refuse to be saved

[manic juniper]

Nice, unfortunately I cannot anymore since I live so far from them, but I will visit if I travel back to Finland

[feral river]

since when it was middle school, almost 10 years after, my grandpa got cancer and died in 2018.

almost 2 years I didn't visit his house and grandma's staying in the hospital to company with him

[smoky pagoda]

That's true fact

[manic juniper]

Did you visit him often at the hospital?

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-missing-gary-lonely-tears-spongebob-gif-14460070

[feral river]

not so often his hospital is god damn far from my house I almost visited him like only 10 times in 2 years

[manic juniper]

Do you still visit grandma once a week now?

[feral river]

and he suddenly died, at that time I have a hard emotion comes out it's hard to explain because everything's fading out of me

it was just like that I can't really express how sadness I'm it's just too complex

[feral river]

I live with my grandma now

[manic juniper]

Yeah it's horrible, when the grandma closest to me died I felt guilty because I couldn't even bring myself to cry, totally understand that

[smoky pagoda]

Good

[feral river]

after my grandpa is died, and graduated from the middle school I started to live with my grandma till now

[manic juniper]

I don't even want to imagine how I will feel the day when my aunt will die

[smoky pagoda]

Hope she lives long live and even see your children and wife

Or wifes

If you're planning to do more than one marriage

[feral river]

I didn't get to a nice high school I got to the vocational school and luckily I passed the examination for entry the university (not gaokao exam)

[manic juniper]

The child that is in you dies a little whenever one of your relatives passes

[feral river]

so basically when I was in vocational school it was like 3 years of vacation for me you can just completely do not visit that school to receive your graduation paper (that happens in China)

[manic juniper]

We have those too but idk if they work the same, I went to a normal secondary school instead

[feral river]

you know how harsh our education is and I was being pushed by my parents in the middle school era it was like being suppressed, being forced to study something I don't want to

and I'm a rebellious person so after graduation I almost didn't visit once to my parents house

but our relationship was just calm it's not like I hate them no

I know they are doing good for me but I just don't like it they still love me and I love them

[manic juniper]

Is it getting better now?

[feral river]

now it's the best they granted me full freedom after graduation from middle school, I'm 100% more mature than 99% of the current student

[manic juniper]

My mum was like that too, she wanted me to be a copy of her and we just aren't the same

[feral river]

I learn everything by myself, I don't learn anything from school

including this freaking exhausted language I'm speaking with you

[manic juniper]

Where did you learn it? And how? Videogames?

[feral river]

I play minecraft with americans

a rpg pvp server and I use militarism dominated the server

I also know how a lot of stuff works included not limited to computer logical processing, because I use hack to try to bypass the anti-cheat and after that I develop anti-cheat

I have some basic knowledge of philosophy because I used to ridicule my enemies

then I need to do a lot of efforts to fck them hard, so planning, processing, organizing those skills unlocked

I even debate my appeal case with the mod team like a lawyer

and all of these behind one most important skill is english.

[manic juniper]

Lol I noticed, you pulled a Saul Goodman and did the unthinkable

Literally the devil's advocate personified

[manic juniper]

Videogames are great ngl

[feral river]

well I don't call myself a devil lol

[feral river]

videogames is my life

I have computer when I was born I play videogames with my grandpa, dad(GTA5)

I play it all the time throughout my life

still remember the time I'm playing cs1.6 with my pal in cybercafe

[dense agate]

are we having a nostalgia moment here

[manic juniper]

Same, I started at about 3 years old with a bootleg console made in socialist Poland

I started from the golden age of videogames, 83 and beyond

[feral river]

yeah they are addictive I know

[manic juniper]

I played many NES, Master System, SNES and Mega drive games

Then at 4 I got my first legit console, a PS2 Slim and my first 3D games on it

[feral river]

Russian blocks, Tank war 1997, 4399.com

[manic juniper]

PS1 and PS2 games alike, I played many and now I'm trying to play those I missed because they were exclusives to other consoles like Pokémon

[dense agate]

you guys actually started with consoles ?

[feral river]

I never own a PS console or other game console but I play games on the PC that was a Windows 98 PC

[dense agate]

i had a simple windows xp computer with a mouse that had a ball inside of it

[manic juniper]

Yeah I got my computer at around 8, and it was a pretty had one so even though I played on both I always favoured consoles until about 2022 when the laptop takeover started

[feral river]

then it's Windows XP when I'm playing minecraft like 10 years ago

[feral river]

oh that one I got that one

yeah small ball mouse my grandpa said this is damn good

[manic juniper]

Now as of 2024 I still play on both but laptop is the majority of where my gaming takes place, I will get s PS5 as last console because I have free games on it and I can't let them go to waste. But it will be my last

[feral river]

for now I just use my computer to play games but recently I'm reducing my game time to chat with you guys

[manic juniper]

Computers will be my future, and Sony gave me all reasons to abandon consoles now that even Ratchet & Clank isn't exclusive anymore ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

[feral river]

I'm pretty old now I think I have to get more social interaction with my western friend

[manic juniper]

That's nice

[dense agate]

somewhat similar except that there was a home pc available since the day i was born.
it had some old gems installed, frogger 2, Hercules, sega emulator, age of empires...

[feral river]

including you guys all my beloved

[feral river]

what about red alert

[manic juniper]

I took a break from online interactions until recently, I used to not have many friends in real life long ago

[feral river]

GTA: VC, SA all my fav

[dense agate]

only consoles that were interesting for me were thhe portable ones, PSP and PS vita which i own

[manic juniper]

I had an extremely powerful PC in my household but it was pretty much off-limits, same for the Xbox, my father didn't want me to touch them at all

[dense agate]

i know about that one, never tried it, warcraft 3 exists instead

[manic juniper]

A thing or two could've changed had he allowed me

[feral river]

it's unbelievable I passed that freaking task I trained 2 month to pass that shit of controlling a drone to bomb a building while escaping from these freaking guys that use gun to shot me

[manic juniper]

Nice, the console I play the most on nowadays is the PS Vita

[dense agate]

wow, meanwhile me at the age of 7, staying awake with my dad trying to install an MMO game i saw on TV

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/gloop-gif-25555044

[feral river]

I'm glad that you guys have a rich history and good life

[manic juniper]

This shit is how a decently powerful computer feels, not even a truly monstrous one

[feral river]

some of my friend recently recognized told me he's only doing work with his dad in the farms and he can barely afford anything 😭

[dense agate]

GTA VC even though i didn't like it, but it was the first game that made me prefer staying home than playing outside sometimes, the first sip of addiction

[manic juniper]

My computer is nothing crazy yet it feels like that, the amount of customisation and available content on it simply shits on consoles

[dense agate]

really ??

[dense agate]

meanwhile me, rocking pentium 4, thanking all the gods i know whenever a game actually works

[manic juniper]

Yes, I have some PS2 ported games on it and I didn't complete them on handheld yet

[dense agate]

it's such an amazing console, sadly it didn't take off like PSP.
PSP was more fun for me since i could meet up with friends who had it and we can play Lan together

[manic juniper]

Lmao, I consider myself lucky despite all the bad things that happened throughout my life, I recall sharing stories with other people and sadly they did not have much to tell compared to me

[feral river]

oh cool I'm a man with a very god damn rich history compared with all my friend in China

[manic juniper]

Nothing like being chased in a construction site by a guy with a big torch at night, or exploring crumbling abandoned buildings

[feral river]

that's probably why I'm pretty realist and mature as people used to call me

[dense agate]

umm what ??

[manic juniper]

Or fleeing from the police after ringing too many doorbells at night

[feral river]

not naive like a idealist

[manic juniper]

Yes my friends and I did that and a lot more

[dense agate]

the chase part seems pretty creepy tho

[manic juniper]

It's also Sony's fault, the PSP seemed to have a lot more solid exclusives and was a lot more marketed than the PS Vita. The latter is a monstrous handheld for its time, but the dumb SD card format didn't help either

[manic juniper]

We don't know if he was an homeless person or someone trying to drive us out of the site, but we fled and jumped off in a street and successfully disappeared

[dense agate]

holy shit, i hate the PS vita memory, it's super expensive and you can't insert a normal SD card, you need the special one

[manic juniper]

I believe it's the way Sony does its things, they try to force a new standard, like disc consoles, or Blu-ray discs, or UMDs, sometimes they work and are adopted by everyone and other times they simply do not

[dense agate]

i only have 8gb and as a kid, there was no way i could convince my parent to get me larger storage, especially with their price tag

[manic juniper]

And they turn their products into failures or subpar profits

[dense agate]

they should be coming up with a sequel and try to compete with nintendo

[manic juniper]

A purely handheld could be off the table now because of phones, but I can see hybrid having success

Either a Steam Deck copycat or a Switch copycat

[dense agate]

there is a market for these kind of handhelds, steamdeck and similar products are selling well

[manic juniper]

Yes but they are bigger and less handheld I think

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GIj2BVJS2A

[manic juniper]

PS Vita was big but it's comparable to my phone, just way thicker. However I can easily carry it everywhere in a bag or purse, or even my pockets depending on what I'm wearing

[manic juniper]

Is he Cantonese?

[dense agate]

honestly it seems unlikely it would happen, the main reason someone would want to buy it is the exclusives, which sony sucks at currently

[feral river]

nope but he can speak Cantonese lol

[manic juniper]

Why, do you really not want to buy a remastered of real life that came out 12 seconds ago?

[dense agate]

idk about the pocket, but i can took it with me often to school

[manic juniper]

He's right, if you say nothing you make a fortune

[dense agate]

remaster of a remaster, yes. I'm really glad a friend of mine pushed me to try PS2 emulator last year, it's really a blast

from Metal Gear Solid, to Silent hill 2, devil may cry..., there are some amazing games there

[dense agate]

i remember watching this guy, he's funny

[manic juniper]

PS3 had a lot less exclusives but maybe more solid (even if the genres were less varied), I don't think you can play those if your PC truly is that underpowered but maybe one day...

[cold flare]

Yo

[manic juniper]

Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Sly raccoon

The first two Jak & Daxter games can be played without emulator, there are PC versions that look and run better

[dense agate]

i had a ps3 for years that i got for almost nothing but never got into it because of the controls.
the only game PS3 game i cared about was MGS4 since it's exclusive to it, i had to emulate it on pc (it runs like shit)

[manic juniper]

I'm trying to play Nintendo games more, I will have to try more Xbox games in the future

[manic juniper]

It's still bad, but there are some games that run almost perfectly, I helped a friend trying out Silent Hill Downpour and it looks and runs perfectly

[dense agate]

shadow of the colossus is probably my next ps2 game, i hear a lot about it

[lethal sparrow]

i have my PSP right in front of me. i use it almost daily. it's a wonderful little handheld.

[manic juniper]

Psychonauts too is great, it's on PC as well

[dense agate]

for some games it still runs terribly, but thankfully there is a software that saved me and made it playable, Lossless Scaling

[lethal sparrow]

i play my PSP more than i play my switch lmao

[dense agate]

it's a wonderful console, i remember sneaking it with me past bed time to play sims castaway

[dense agate]

yesssss, that one is on my list, looks funky

[manic juniper]

I recall joining servers on Star Wars Battlefront where people would play with hacked characters all the times

[dense agate]

you played it on console ?

[manic juniper]

On PSP yes, it has II, Rogue Squadron and Elite Squadron

II didn't have many or any hackers, I don't recall seeing any. Meanwhile the other two often had custom characters with lightsabers running around

[dense agate]

lel luckily i mostly played Lan than actual multiplayer

[manic juniper]

I think it's the first console where I played online, in 2009. My first online game was LittleBigPlanet

[dense agate]

i played the PS vita version, was pretty fun, except having to ask me to pay 15$ for multiplayer pass when i already own the game

[manic juniper]

That one is even better, LittleBigPlanet PSP had no real multiplayer, only the online. It wasn't powerful enough for it

LittleBigPlanet Vita was literally a portable version of the PS3 games which is great

It even had more functions

[dense agate]

it's probably my fav PS vita game, uncharted's second

[manic juniper]

I didn't play it yet but it has to be done

[dense agate]

you can also install custom apps and games

[manic juniper]

Also there is Sly Thieves in Time which is nice

[dense agate]

last time i used my PS vita i've installed the original mario and DOOM

[manic juniper]

Do you have a normal SD on it now?

[dense agate]

there is a ps2 port of this game no ?

[manic juniper]

I have the first PS Vita model, the 3G one

[manic juniper]

PS3

The first 3 games are ported on Vita tho

[dense agate]

no, but if you don't have a memory card, there is a way to get free 1gb on the fat model like on the slim

[manic juniper]

The fourth game has a less interesting story and art style but it's better when it comes to everything else

[manic juniper]

I have a 4GB one and a 12 GB one, both legit

[dense agate]

flex

then you can easily try to install custom apps and games

[formal pilot]

Dayamm y'all are broke I've 128 gb

[manic juniper]

I do too but I didn't install it yet

[manic juniper]

Yes, I will mod it once I complete all my legit games, it'll be much better to play there than on phone

I developed several mental illnesses after I tried to complete some PC and console games on phone

[formal pilot]

Yeah PPSSPP was headache lmao

[dense agate]

the only mobile game that's worth playing is Sudoku

[dense agate]

i did that, but with PS vita

i streamed my pc into it and used it as a controller

plays like dogshit thanks to the slow wifi card in that console

[dense agate]

thhat's the emulator right ?

[formal pilot]

Lmao yeah i remember killing my innocent mobile with a huge fkn game file

It was Xperia, i lost it

[dense agate]

ohh you installed it on phone, lel

[manic juniper]

Believe it or not it's still fucking superior if used as a PS4 controller

Can't count how many times I've heard "Oh we miss a controller" and I took out my PS Vita and replied "No more"

You can even see the game streamed on the screen

[formal pilot]

Yeah we used to have weekly WWE match on PS3 at my friends place, I used to lose all the fkn time, didn't had console so I tried to install it on my phone for practice

[manic juniper]

There are games I played so many times like Spyro that I can play them well on phone

But some of them are just so nightmarish to imagine without buttons and the analog stick

[dense agate]

me last time i had gaming session with my siblings, emulating mario kart with multiple controllers, they all fought over who gets the ps vita

the LED screen is superior

[manic juniper]

It was too good for its times

[dense agate]

non of you guys got into multiplayer PC games ?

[manic juniper]

And the touch pad on the back, just why

[manic juniper]

Nope, by the time I got into PC gaming more my multiplayer spirit already was weak and moribund

[dense agate]

look it's fun to use in some games, but if they only made it smaller

[manic juniper]

The last multiplayer game I played competitively was Crash Team Racing: Nitro-Fueled in 2019 and 2020

[dense agate]

dang, could've experienced one of the greatest moments of gaming, world of warcraft, the nostalgia hits too hard

[formal pilot]

I wasn't into gaming at all, all my childhood was like from school to muay thai classes and after that tution 💀

[manic juniper]

My multiplayer highlights all happened between 2011 and 2014 mostly on LittleBigPlanet

All kinds of things happened there, from me learning Italian to the founding of a quasi-fascist movement in that game

Fascist for the practices, not the ideology (I'M NOT A FASCIST)

But I was responsible for the silencing of many users I didn't like

[dense agate]

im the opposite, moving a lot as a kid made PC my bestie,

[manic juniper]

Learns Italian
Proceeds to found a mafia/fascism-like movement

I guess it's the language's fault after all

[formal pilot]

Ngl i wish I played more video games

[dense agate]

although i currently enjoy singleplayer games more, but multiplayer ones are still worth trying, the experience, the friends you make

[dense agate]

this is my GMOD experience

[void arch]

hey every1

[manic juniper]

The feelings from those times are just impossible to describe to me

It's cringe and embarrassing to admit but yeah, that stupid game influenced a lot of those that played it

[dense agate]

those kind of games makes one feel very nostalgic, whether it's about the game or the times when the game was played

but it just hits hard

[manic juniper]

It's sad because I tried getting into it many times afterwards, but obviously it's not the same with a much smaller and different community

[void arch]

@formal pilot have u looked at what we ended up in about E coli

[manic juniper]

I wish they made something similar, Roblox isn't the same at all

I don't get why all these strange projects by Sony were made when they would've not been relevant

[dense agate]

i don't think there was a catchy multiplayer game on console, the ones that somewhat are, like cod they die out fast with each new release

[manic juniper]

If they released a game like that today it would sell like nothing else, they even had plans for that with LittleBigPlanet Hub

[manic juniper]

That one broke records at the time of release

They don't even need to sell the game itself just as they planned with LittleBigPlanet Hub, only to sell content and levels

[dense agate]

this made me think of Astro bot, which actually seems pretty good

[dense agate]

this is basically a live service model

[prisma cipher]

Poor kid, best arcade game racing were Mario cart

[manic juniper]

Yes sort of, the game was sort of the pre-live service model with paid expansions and DLCs

[manic juniper]

Idk I always liked Crash Team Racing more, especially the original. It was just faster and I liked the controls and gameplay better

Having to keep the powerful flame on while drifting

Plus the very risky shortcuts from some tracks

[dense agate]

hopefully they make a turn around and start making some actual games, or at least bloodborne pc release :/

[manic juniper]

https://youtu.be/sx5y4bn12DA

[manic juniper]

LittleBigPlanet almost was a social media, with tagged pics, uploaded pics, reviews, comments, hearts (likes), saved content, shareable content

If the official site LBP.me still existed I would show you, my profile had countless pictures

The developers kind of failed at that with Dreams I guess, that game is more like Unity than a game where you can create content in a fun, simple but still engaging way

[dense agate]

i'm checking this one out, it seems to have a pc release, reviews kind of dum dum

[manic juniper]

Dreams?

[dense agate]

yea

[manic juniper]

I think it has too many missed marks compared to LittleBigPlanet

[dense agate]

what you're describing is very much like Gmod and the upcoming one S&Box

[manic juniper]

LittleBigPlanet still felt very much like a game with identity and you could even create alongside other people

There was also a lot of character customisation

[dense agate]

something like an avatar, i think in a world where games like VR Chat exist, it would be hard for such game to compete

[manic juniper]

To the point things like emo style and other fashion movements spilled over in the game or influenced some players to adopt it in real life

[manic juniper]

Playstation even had PlayStation Home, I don't get why they didn't expand and remake it for PS4 and PS5

Imagine PSVR2 on PlayStation Home, it was a detailed world where people did normal people stuff, but online

[dense agate]

they had VR chat before VR chat and killed it, what a waste

[manic juniper]

Like I said, a lot of fun experimental projects that were somehow abandoned instead of expanded and relaunched

In the case of LittleBigPlanet it was successful, they just completely fucked up with the third because the studio was different and the game was rushed

[dense agate]

i'm still sassy about them closing Gravity Rush's studio, wonderful PS Vita game, sadly there won't be a sequel

[manic juniper]

I'm still holding hope for a completely new LittleBigPlanet, unfortunately it seems like it'll just be Restiched instead

[manic juniper]

Its an indie game that may or may not have all the features of the original

[manic juniper]

Why is there a knight in Puglia?

[dense agate]

thhis would be a wonderful time to get into MGS, to fill the void

[dapper laurel]

Because of a Norman dynasty that invaded those areas

[prisma cipher]

Just like Mario cart

[dense agate]

i don't see the Marrokans

[manic juniper]

All of the people in the picture are Moroccans

[prisma cipher]

You know right, Mario cart exists since super Nintendo

Sony just were influenced by this game

[thorny steeple]

Forza Juve

[dapper laurel]

No, they're all pure italics/ ROMAN n shiet

[dapper laurel]

Forza Südtirol

[manic juniper]

Yes just like many of their PS1 exclusives, CTR was influenced by Diddy Kong Racing (also better than Mario Kart imo)

[dense agate]

they clearly copied multiple games from nintendo, like playstation all stars

[manic juniper]

I just prefer Sony games because they feel less stupid at times, every Zelda game I played usually has some very stupid part in it that drags on for too long

[prisma cipher]

IMO first Mario cart was just bad

[manic juniper]

With Mario idk since I never played any 3D Mario for too long, I only recall Mario 64 being more janky than Spyro or Crash

[dense agate]

ever tried any Kojima game ?

[manic juniper]

I don't usually care if a game is a copycat of another as long as it's superior

[manic juniper]

Like Metal Gear Solid? Is Metal Gear (the very first) also from him?

Because I played that one but it was so long ago

[dense agate]

yea, almost all of them are from him, plus death stranding

[manic juniper]

I only played that and the MGSV prologue game

I know, quite the gap

And a Metal Gear game on Symbian phone

[dense agate]

MGS5 is probably my fav but it's very different than the others, his games are pseudo movies

[dense agate]

huh let me check

[manic juniper]

https://youtu.be/VLfdQ1y3-WA

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[dense agate]

damn it's an actual port

[prisma cipher]

99% sure

[dense agate]

his games are worth playing , probably the most consistent game series ever

[manic juniper]

I might try them once I'm done with the current batch and some others

[dense agate]

arguable the only Japanese games i've cared about are his

[void arch]

https://tenor.com/view/oussama-refeño-baldi-oussama-rifinio-morocco-gif-17662466

[manic juniper]

I'm trying to think of one for me but I cannot

There probably is one out there

[prisma cipher]

I recently started playing paper Mario and it was surprisingly good, I play first paper Mario long time ago I soon getting lost and don't like the game, but new one is good

[dense agate]

the only potential ones are Fromsoftware games and silent hill

[dense agate]

i saw gameplay of that one, looks actually good

[manic juniper]

I didn't play them either

[dense agate]

no silent hill 2 ????

[manic juniper]

There was a time when I played mostly Japanese games because that's how it was on NES and SNES

[prisma cipher]

Check any boss fight in paper Mario origami kingdom. It like something new in turn based fight

[dense agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifxXu2LZADc

[manic juniper]

Nvm I recalled about Metal Slug

[dense agate]

hmmm, im not that into turn based games, only fun ones are civilization like games

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-cat-in-front-of-sea-gif-16930437336998530733

[dense agate]

for a moment i thought this was Worms

i remember playing metal slug on my psp, it was too hard

[prisma cipher]

All old generation players Russian love worms

[dense agate]

you ever played warcraft 3 ?

it's or it was popular in Russia

[prisma cipher]

No

I play linegue 2 if I pronounce it right, but I know a lot who played

[dense agate]

then i guess no Dota either

[dense agate]

by any chance do you mean league of legends or ?

[prisma cipher]

No

Lineage 2

[manic juniper]

It's difficult to get to the end with the entire bullet hell going on

[dense agate]

an MMO that's playable on mobile, this has to be pay to win

[prisma cipher]

My cousin like Dota2 not me

[dense agate]

Doom is more fun and fair

[dense agate]

Dota is like counter strike, they're social games for you to join and have fun in the voice chat

best thing about Dota is you'll probably never get banned for what you say in chat

[prisma cipher]

Yea super toxic community

[dense agate]

yes, that's how you get to learn more about cultures and countries

[prisma cipher]

It because you can failed your term I guess

[dense agate]

people would shittalk you even if you're the one carrying the team

@dapper laurel

[dapper laurel]

The virgin Roman destroyed the average "Germanic chad" multiple times, but this is irrelevant to me, I have barbaric blood too

I'm the ultimate mix

[manic juniper]

You can apply the two on the upper left of the Goth to the Romans too to an extent

[dense agate]

they had the last laugh tho

[manic juniper]

Those times the pesky Italians did bad things to the eastern Romans

[dapper laurel]

And about "writing poems about their enemies", well, that was just a propaganda strategy to make ROMAN soldiers look Indirectly stronger

[manic juniper]

Okay, who is the retard that found out this first?

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, then they tried to recreate the roman empire and adopted their law system

[formal pilot]

I'm really sorry i completely forgot to look at it, right now I'm in middle of fixing my bicycle lol, as soon as I'm done I'll dive into it

[dapper laurel]

ROMANZ WON ONCE AGAIN

[dense agate]

exactly what i was thinking, it's too fkin random

[formal pilot]

Wtf did I just read

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/future-ram-ranch-gif-18120355

What happened to my media permissions

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[manic juniper]

Finland if Sweden didn't conquer it in the 12th century

[formal pilot]

Chad indus valley civilisation used porous containers to preserve milk

Sucha hygienic civilization

Arguably the most hygienic period of that geographical region 💀

[manic juniper]

It had one of the earliest plumbing systems

[formal pilot]

They were able to transport water uphill yk how fkn difficult is it without motors

[manic juniper]

Some Finns were still running around with bronze swords in the 11th and 12th century

Such an advanced civilisation

[manic juniper]

Or you could simply live on a flat region, checkmate round earth conspiracy theorists

[formal pilot]

Do you think Ai will ever be able to translate indus valley scripts

[formal pilot]

Lmao literally 1000 years behind

Egyptians had Iran daggers in 3000 bc

[manic juniper]

I don't know, isn't the most plausible of the hypotheses so far about it being a Dravidian language? And it's followed by a language isolate or an extinct family like Sumerian

[manic juniper]

Europeans had them around the first millennium BCE but not us, I think we found out about iron around 500 AD or later

It's even a case of technology going back in time, there used to be large buildings before but we somehow abandoned them...? How can one go back in time

[formal pilot]

They don't have any evidence to confirm it, they language is still undecipherd

[manic juniper]

Hm it would've been had any Finnish society existed, it was simply Sweden

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant's_Church
How tf did we lose this technology? It's some The Elder Scrolls Argonian lore bullshit

[formal pilot]

They didn't lost the technology, societes changed priorities shifted

They also used to be hella costly

[manic juniper]

Yeah it's some Argonian lore bullshit then

[formal pilot]

And good luck on building big structures in high earthquake zones

[manic juniper]

Argonians abandoned their stone buildings because "They will all be destroyed one day anyway" so they started living in tents

I'm pretty sure this is what the Finns did too

[manic juniper]

We have none

[formal pilot]

What about wars in ancient Finland?

How old is your civilization

[manic juniper]

They even found them in coastal Ostrobothnia, the most stable place in all of Finland. There are the flattest grounds there with nothing going on at all

[manic juniper]

Good question

[manic juniper]

Good question

But I mean shouldn't the successive people inherit them? How could this happen?

[dense agate]

it's odd how despite their small population, they have strong presence in 4chan

[manic juniper]

The Mongols were technologically behind but they became advanced after conquering China
So did the Germanic people with Rome
Are you telling me that Finns not only won against some futuristic people, but they also lost the technology? It's hilarious to think to me but very in character

[formal pilot]

Lemme look at Finland's geography so I can cook

[dense agate]

i've found a thread once about how Finnish culture is just fake, since Kalevala is based on Karelian folklore which isn't Finnish

[thorny steeple]

Romans: homosexuals
Germanic peoples: dumps homosexuals in swamps

[manic juniper]

It's because Russia didn't care as much about converting people to Christianity, so a lot of the weird things in Karelian culture survived compared to Finnish culture

There likely was a similar story amongst Finnish people, since even Estonians had something similar to the stories in the Kalevala. The author even released another book that is solely on Finnish mythology (since the Kalevala is more like a fan compilation by him)

[formal pilot]

Blud Finland doesn't had the resources like stones and thick woods

So cost of building large structure in harsh climate was extremely high

[manic juniper]

But how could these people in 3000 BCE do it and not us? There surely would've been a way

And yes this is again some Argonian lore bullshit "They will all crumble one day anyway"

Proceeds to go back to monkey

[formal pilot]

[manic juniper]

Literally this

[formal pilot]

What was the source of income in old Finland?? Selling ice?

[manic juniper]

Squirrel fur

[dense agate]

i read that thanks to Kalevala, the Swedish language didn't override the Finnish one

[formal pilot]

[manic juniper]

It was mostly fur of many animals

In my dialect there is an archaic word for "ten squirrel furs" and "forty squirrel furs"

No one uses it anymore, but elders still used it akin to "a dozen"

[manic juniper]

We still were the majority, it only saved the language from the South and the large cities there where next to everyone was a Swedish speaker

It's difficult to say, sometimes I wonder what because while the Swedes didn't have any policy to replace our language, the Swedish language was simply more convenient and linked to wealth and politics than Finnish

[formal pilot]

Ancient Egyptians were deeply into Agriculture (chad Nile), trade they also had mines of gold copper and stones

That's the only way they were able to afford ginormous structure

[manic juniper]

Estonia had a similar history to Finland, they just swapped the characters' names and the bad guys a little

Yet they had few non-Estonian speakers until they were annexed by the USSR

[manic juniper]

It was basically impossible here anyway

Even in Sweden it wasn't possible until climate change made it possible for them around the Middle Ages

[formal pilot]

Yeah they didn't lost the tech lol

Every great civilization must suffer

[prisma cipher]

You call it didn't care, we call it we give them the freedom to remain as they are

[manic juniper]

Gorgonipsids

[formal pilot]

Because of the resources they grow really really fast and after few hundred years it's not sustainable

[manic juniper]

I don't know about that, it was just different strategies of conversion, they were simply less affected by paganism

They still forcefully converted those people just not as badly, given how their religion was reduced to tales for children and poetry

[manic juniper]

It will be our turn now ☝🏻

[formal pilot]

That bird on bottom right got crazy name

[manic juniper]

Yes

[dense agate]

one would think Swedish would take off and there won't be need for Finnish to standardized

[manic juniper]

There is also the fact that since the early 17th century Sweden changed attitude towards Finnish people and became less hostile and more open to integration

Slavery was abolished centuries earlier, serfdom was more liberalised

[manic juniper]

Estonia was basically the same as us, it even was the buffer region of Denmark to us, the buffer region of Sweden

Our capital cities were built to compete against one another in the Baltic Sea trade

Finnish was standardised like many other languages to convert people to Christianity

[formal pilot]

Wtf earliest human settlements in Finland appeared around 9,000 BCE still they aren't considered as ancient civilization

Sucha shame

[manic juniper]

They were people living in tents and caves

There is obscure lore about the identity of the pre-Uralic people

[formal pilot]

Before that there must be polytheistic religion

[manic juniper]

The oldest ones were part of at least two extinct language families

[prisma cipher]

Damn still bad

[manic juniper]

Yes, they introduced Jesus as another god first

[formal pilot]

I've never heard about this term, pre Uralic, what's that?

[manic juniper]

Yeah, it happened to Rus' too before because their rulers converted to Christianity so all Rus' people had to be converted too

[manic juniper]

Uralic is our language family, like Indo-European

[formal pilot]

Gotcha

[manic juniper]

They are called Paleo-Laplandic and Paleo-Lakelandic languages, there are few words from those in some Finno-Samic languages

[formal pilot]

So these are extinct languages?

When a country undergo language & religion changes they are most likely to loss invaluable informations, cultural nuances, traditional knowledge

Most of the rich heritage goes directly to the bin lol

Rip chad Finland for accepting english and Christianity

[raven forge]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-eating-popcorn-akademiks-gif-4852066732879832234

[manic juniper]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Most of the languages went extinct when agriculture became a thing, they used to be around 17-20k in the entire world when nowadays they are around 7k

[manic juniper]

Swedish you mean, but no we still have Finnish

Our language wasn't damaged nearly as much as Estonian was, it's full of German loanwords

[dense solar]

Guys who do you think will win the American elections?🤔

[manic juniper]

Don't know, maybe Kamala with a slightly higher margin

[desert nebula]

bro you're so obsessed with us get a life
Besides this didn't prevent the French and the British kings from marrying even younger girls

[stiff halo]

and you still didn't give me an example from old arab world were an old arab man married a 7 yo girl

[feral river]

they don't speak english ?!

I thought there's only four languages in the world, English, Chinese, Russian, French

[desert nebula]

well their ages wasn't documented but if you searched about their culture and norms in hijaz you'll find one of them marrying at a young age

[stiff halo]

and you still didn't give me an example from old arab world were an old arab man married a 7 yo girl

[desert nebula]

What flag is this? If it's France that's the dumbest comparasion lol

[stiff halo]

1 single tiny example lol

[desert nebula]

France which killed over 1.5 million in Algeria and they still résisted even in my country they fought till death stop being so smart

[stiff halo]

1 single tiny example lol

[desert nebula]

If you lived a real war you'll be the first one to cry

[stiff halo]

1 single tiny example lol , YOU CAN"T AHAHAHAA

[stiff halo]

i did

and i'm fine

[feral river]

no idea

[desert nebula]

Do you know my family? Or how many relatives I've lost in this disgusting war?? If no shut up kindly
Idk why they don't ban you those mods and all you're trying to do is insulting billions of muslim people alive and even the warriors who died

keyboard warrior

[feral river]

I don't see how France killed that number of people in Algeria

[stiff halo]

and you still didn't give me an example from old arab world were an old arab man married a 7 yo girl

[feral river]

and it's technically impossible

[stiff halo]

they didn't , it's just a lie

[desert nebula]

I told you ages weren't documented now bring me a single person who criticized that marriage

[feral river]

how could they kill that number of people without a war in another sovereign state ?

that was ridiculous

[stiff halo]

muslims killed 70-120 millions trying to conquer pakistan and india to spread their cancer

[desert nebula]

Well France was defeated by Germany so I guess they're only cool when it comes to killing innocent people

[feral river]

idk probably who knows lol

[feral river]

at that time Algeria doesn't exist

that's part of the France

[stiff halo]

and you still didn't give me an example from old arab world were an old arab man married a 7 yo girl

[desert nebula]

You have Indonesia where the majority are Muslims without even a single war

But you think Christianity was spread by love

[desert nebula]

You didn't exist not Algeria 😊

[feral river]

you didn't exist not me

lmao

[desert nebula]

Stop repeating like a parrot I told you ages weren't weren't documented. Bring me someone who criticized that marriage if it wasn't normal you think his enemies would watch

[feral river]

I'm just telling a truth of the basic timeline in history

LMAO

u got triggered by truth ?

can you point it out where Algeria is in the time of WW2 ?

[dapper laurel]

I only know Numidia, not Algeria

Algeria is a french conspiracy

[feral river]

Dutch Indonesian company ?

no idea

[formal pilot]

@void arch
i started my research with AI, which confirmed that mutation have indeed happened in LTEE of e coli, it pointed out that mutation took place at different stages, including the promotor regions.

After that i decided to conduct my own research and found supporting evidence in study published in PLOS Biology. it clearly says that mutation in promoter regions led to the emergence of new proto genes, these proto genes originated from previously non coding sequence that started being expressed due to the formation downstream of new mutation reset either from insertion element activity or chromosomal translocation that fused preexisting regulatory sequence to regions.

its irrefutalbe that mutation did happend in the LTEE of e coli and specifically these mutaion also happend in promoter regions

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3002418

Here's the supporting source

This is validation from Ai

[desert nebula]

you can find it on maps you're talking as if China didn't change its name before or wasn't occupied

[desert nebula]

That's a kingdom 😅you can't come and tell me Syria was Aram kingdom lol

[feral river]

really ?

what was that mean by 'independence ?'

[desert nebula]

Well the French and the British occupation resulted in the current borders you see Palestine was part of bilad alsham too before they came

[feral river]

wym by occupied ? if you can define being occupied at that time why can't I define you are being occupied now

I have no idea on what you are talking about a state doesn't exist

[desert nebula]

Most countries have an independent day so what are you trying to say 😂it means to get rid of the colonizers

[feral river]

I'm saying your country doesn't exist before the independence day

is that have any problem ?

idc if you call them colonizers or not, they are administrating this region and they are the representitive of this region.

not you

[desert nebula]

Your china republic was established in 1949

[feral river]

that was ended lmao

we got a new regime

[humble fractal]

Yo where did u get that inf from? The main goal of the Islamic movement is to spread message of Islam to all mankind.Not to kill innocent people, and the exploitation of its natural resources and wealth, but its goal was to spread the Islamic religion. As apposed to the brutal movements of Christianity.

[desert nebula]

What are you yapping about I'm not Algerian but I'm saying most countries have an independence day and they're mostly newly established there was kingdoms and empires before no countries

[feral river]

you wanna say your country got a new regime too ?

[feral river]

they aren't countries and they don't represent their people before that day what the heck you are yapping about

you are talking like they are the owner of the land, they are fucking not at that time

[desert nebula]

well Algeria was under the ottoman empire and that's a caliphate the name still existed as the regency of Algiers

Are you talking about Algeria or my country? Bc when my country existed China was nowhere

[feral river]

dude that's Ottoman empire, not Algeria okay ?

do you know what's the difference between Ottoman empire and algeria

[desert nebula]

You just like to oppose anything I say till now I didn't get your point or what you're trying to say
It's like going back when China was occupied by Japan and ask you where's China

[feral river]

when China was occupied by Japan ?

name me a timeline of when China was occupied by Japan ?

[desert nebula]

the ottoman empire was a caliphate still Syria was named Syria, Egypt was Egypt and Algeria the regency of Algiers

[feral river]

what the heck you are talking about

[desert nebula]

You can check their maps instead of yapping here:)

[feral river]

Syria region of ottoman empire or Syria province of ottoman empire

[formal pilot]

Jesus is king

[feral river]

where the heck is Syrian state of ottoman empire ?

LMAO

[feral river]

you are talking about bs over here saying China was once occupied Japan and I asked you when you told me check it by yourself

then what if I say you are fucked, you ask me why ? I will reponse go check yourself

dude you are roasted by this logic

you are not trying to debate but trying to twist the truth and start problem with the person who knows the truth not your narrative

nobody cares that narrative of how great is your islamic utopia

and talking something out of nowhere about China and Japan ?

[formal pilot]

I mean japan was occupying some part of china during second sino-japanese war

[feral river]

that's the truth but he said Japan occupied China which is a false claim.

where does that shit comes from

[formal pilot]

humans are prone to make mistakes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre

[ruby vector]

We know more than u
We acquire the history

We know your country history

Behind the screen

[feral river]

I still have no idea on why they just lacking of food so they killed those people not sending them to other places to force them to work to generate products and military equipments

when they are lacking of population and recruit soilders, and they are developing their occupation area which the people is in high demand but they choose to massacre those people is the only thing I don't understand.

they can't get any actual benefit from killing those people but left an empty city and no economy activities anymore, no taxes anymore, no products.

maybe that's the reason of how Japanese empire failed their great war on East Asia, they have a lot of plan to enlarge their territory all across the Pacific and East Asia but they failed by one simple mistake, economy.

they perfectly know how to make people surrender to them but they don't know how to rule these region and make it proseperous.

it won't be worse than this result if I was the economy minister of Japanese empire.

they have a lot of opportunities to promote their great east asia co-prosperity sqhere, but they all failed because they can't win the people's heart, they can't run the economy of the occupation area, the only thing they know is how to ruin it.

[dapper laurel]

Jesus is lord

[humble fractal]

Jesus is a prophet of the lord.

[junior obsidian]

👍

[uncut tiger]

I do not know what I want, it's very difficult to decipher. My wants are hidden under the veil of my emotions. I hate myself at this point. I want to remove the hesitation within me. I don't wanna be a loser. Even if I'm the best at something, there's always someone who's better than me at it. Competition is a bitter mistress. I struggle to improve myself due to the hesitation within me. My real nature is socializing, though I don't know the correct way. I don't like sitting quietly, but I do so, victimizing myself being lonely. I need someone to talk to, someone with whom I could express myself. Maybe that is what would make me a bit happier. Ah,I don't like loneliness! I look at it as the trait of a failed man who doesn't have his companions by his side all the time. I know that solitude is a bliss, but it's rather a curse for me. I hate being alone, but most of the time I am lonely. I hate attention, even though I'd die to get it. I can't explain myself clearly, yet I want someone to explain myself to. I have a disease called overthinking. I have a **** addiction. I am under confident and scared of responsibility. My utmost desire is to go back to my childhood, only reason is that I want to be carefree once again. I want to live life once again. I want the old me, who didn't care about people, who didn't care about money, fame and looks. Self consciousness is a cruel consequence of maturity. Ahh my brain hurts writing this. I don't want to talk about myself, I don't know when will I start doing better. I have zero self control. I hate me when I'm lustful. I hate myself when I'm scared. I hate myself when I'm quiet.

I feel a burning pain inside me, suffocating rocks inside my chest when I'm alone and my peers aren't. I always mess up every relation due to hesitation and lack of sympathy and arrogance. I hate having mood swings. I hate when my mood shifts suddenly. I don't know who is in control of me. I don't feel in control of myself honestly. I do not know what to do, when to do. I'm so lost in this vast world. I require direction.....

[manic juniper]

It looks like Croatia

[dapper laurel]

Naaah, JESUS IS LORD

There is no need to debate this, when the end of the world comes you will see

[feral river]

can Jesus be a transgender ?

[shy summit]

Oh boy here we go

[humble fractal]

Do you have evidence for your claims or just a blind faith. Did Jesus tell u to worship me or the one true lord?

[manic juniper]

Maybe non-binary

[feral river]

lmao dude

[dapper laurel]

Yes, he's God, He's omnipotent, He can do everything

[manic juniper]

He's all 17 genders at once

[dapper laurel]

You understood correctly

[feral river]

only 17 ? he's not the man who believe in the gender which is a type of social contract ?

holy moly

[uncut tiger]

Ignore your problems like you ignored message

[manic juniper]

I don't know, I follow science, in the videogame No Man's Sky 17 genders are represented so I trust the data

[feral river]

Jesus have the right to identify himself as anything he want

[humble fractal]

How can god die?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[uncut tiger]

Gay Jesus wtf