🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

They are the one being destroyed

[dense agate]

how are those 2 even related

[shy summit]

🤦‍♂️ People it is far too late for this

[feral river]

It is damn how is not relevant?

wtf ur thinking bro

They lost ofc they didn’t do it right

They lost bro lost LLLLL

Not W

[dense agate]

omegalel

it's like you're talking with some copy paste script

[feral river]

No freak I told you they are lost that’s how they ain’t right

[dense agate]

he excuses anything the state would do to protect social order, and that no one should be against their state, based on this there would be nothing wrong with what the Nazis did

[feral river]

How bro they were being destroyed

[shy summit]

The Nazis were bad. It does not matter who won or who lost. Bad is bad.

[feral river]

Why avoiding the point of the result ?

[shy summit]

Now shut up

This is treading on ToS territory

[thorny steeple]

Do your thing if anything happens.

[feral river]

Bad example

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nora-rwby-hammer-gif-24019144

[dense agate]

do you understand we're talking about the authority, state and who they perceive as an enemy, the war is irrelevant to the discussion, it's just your brain hears something related to ww2 and goes into the same script

[prisma cipher]

If nazi won you don't know they were bad

[feral river]

How is that irrelevant to the result ?

[prisma cipher]

Because winner is always a good guy

[feral river]

Lmao

[dense agate]

he has no principles to act upon, wining or losing is what determines righteousness for him

[feral river]

There’s only winners on the stage, losers all disappeared

[dense agate]

explain to me how's that relevant to what i've said

[feral river]

Bro I’m stating a truth

[dense agate]

what being a HOI4 "scholar" does to a person

[feral river]

wtf how is that relevant to my principle

Oh damn bro

[dense agate]

it can't be relevant to principles you don't have

[feral river]

🤷‍♂️

Bro I would say don’t disturb the social order of the serious chat

[dense agate]

and this is not me making assumptions, it's literally what you've said

[feral river]

Or nale gonna do something on us

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-altright-pepe-rekt-frog-hammer-anime-gif-15946863

Enough

[feral river]

Let’s figure it out I’m back to my room

Just a moment

[thorny steeple]

Guys drop this Nazi shit.

[shy summit]

You do this every fucking time jesus christ.

[dense agate]

Nazi Germany gets mentioned and now y'all think we're promoting genocide

[shy summit]

Not you blud

[thorny steeple]

[shy summit]

You just feed the troll

But its not your fault, feeding the monkeys can be entertaining but pls I don’t wanna have to use my hammer anymore tonight

[dense agate]

okay, fair enough

[feral river]

U mean me ? Am I the one who mentioned the nazi shit ?

I don’t even want to talk about this

He just pull out a bad example

[shy summit]

Don’t care how it got brought up please. Not tonight.

I am at many limits tonight and my tolerance for bullshit is ziltch

So please

Peace for once

[feral river]

oh enough I'm done with this, at last don't disturb the social order of the serious chat @dense agate

otherwise the supreme moderator Nale gonna imprison us

they are the authority

[analog marlin]

@feral river minecraft

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-mgs4-ocelot-liquid-ocelot-gif-18131446

[clever marten]

Guys urgently who fluents in English?

I got a suggestion for those who fluent in it

[unique palm]

it is as serious as you are 😊

[turbid ivy]

Fan of Tata organisation?

https://tenor.com/view/osurdum-what-is-love-baby-dont-hurt-me-gif-17501692786638031890

[unique palm]

I Admire he and his work

[turbid ivy]

Cool, He was a self made billionaire

[unique palm]

Indeed he is

kind , loving , caring and always smiling person

[unique palm]

Nope it came from the heart

[turbid ivy]

Right

[manic juniper]

You missed me playing Bamboo Terrace in your honour

[feral river]

Sometimes I don’t even think that’s an argument but just an objective truth

[manic juniper]

The level has very evident Marxist philosophy in it

[feral river]

HOW

I swear to god I’m not aware of it

[manic juniper]

https://www.youtube.com/live/tH2Hh-zEefk
From 45:33 to the end of the video I play Bamboo Terrace

It's not the only Chinese level anyway, there is Fireworks Factory too later on

[feral river]

Holy crap I’m sorry I can’t even imagine the releasing year of the game

I’m just yalling and kill some stupid ass in Minecraft

[manic juniper]

It's 2000 or maybe 1999

This game could be older than I am

[feral river]

Me too

[manic juniper]

There is a remastered version from 2018

And I own it
But I prefer the original

[dense agate]

boomers be like

[manic juniper]

The third game sucks in the remastered, the previous two are good

The first one is better than the original, the second depends on your tastes

[prisma cipher]

Why tho

I like old games, but why

[viscid ferry]

Sometimes even to live is an act of courage

[prisma cipher]

Yea for living doll

[viscid ferry]

For people too

[manic juniper]

The controls of the new game are slower, there is more control over the charge+jump combo in the original
Also the third game was rushed in the remastered

It lacks a lot of the uniqueness of the original third game

[prisma cipher]

Ok, but I heard remaster is good, newer play Spyro tbh

[manic juniper]

The first game is objectively better in the remastered
The second is subjective
And the third is worse because they rushed it and it's evident

[dense agate]

ain't no remaster/remake butchered a game like it did to my beloved, Warcraft 3

[hybrid siren]

If you lose all your memory, are you still you?

[manic juniper]

Even for the third game you could make an argument that it's not really bad in the remastered, which is true
There are some truly awful remastered our there, this is one of the best

[dense agate]

sometimes merely opening the fridge is an act of rebellion against the tyranny of modern snack expectations

[dense agate]

yea i mostly heard nice feedback from a friend who's a fan of the series, and with the possibility of an upcoming spyro 4, their fans are eating good

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/7nNkaHgTqzU?si=sYGRhbRPzFpymFVm

Democrats

😂😂😂

[normal heath]

Hi

yes, wanna learn and practice together

[manic juniper]

It's unconfirmed, it's more likely that we won't get any

[thorny steeple]

Okay

[normal heath]

yup, nice

[normal heath]

sent y' dm

[manic juniper]

Is this from Professor Finance?

[formal pilot]

I dunno, just found it on reddit

Check this law out

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people#:~:text="Hurting the feelings of the,state media organisations and Chinese

[manic juniper]

There is the Chinese ultimatum too used by Russia

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-cat-chinese-cat-zoom-in-white-chinese-cat-gif-24123212

[modest sphinx]

[feral river]

about how corrupted it is while opening up the dam to submerge more than 5 milion people directly or indirectly died

under Kuomintang it was a divided poor semi-colony under totalitarian dictatorship

and they are a freaking loser who lost all the mainland territory retreat to Taiwan

how could they have more than 80% of the Chinese territory, accepting both support by the US and indirectly by the Soviet Union, having 5 times in number more than Communist forces while being destroyed damn fast ?

that's too cringe to be a loser supporter

[modest sphinx]

CRINGE

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/biao-panda-biaoqing-biaoarmy-chinesememe-gif-5524375538385396869

[rose eagle]

and the truth is that during the "cultural revolution" and the "great leap forward" your government probably caused far more deaths than that

I don't really mean to support Kuomintang but it's truth

[twin quest]

no we are crying for chinese citizens

[rose eagle]

why?

[twin quest]

for living in china

you know why bro

[rose eagle]

I think living in China is not so bad, unless you are a student 💀

[dense agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1170056721260089389/1224759620212494377/QQ20240403003533.gif

[feral river]

that's for socialism development one of the most economic failure in our country's history

ngl that's a huge deal for our state immediately caused political turmoil and mismanagement of the economy in socialist development

[rose eagle]

due to Mao Zedong's selfishness

Because he was so greedy for power, he established the "Red Guards" to serve him.

[feral river]

not really he's a legendary leader but he forecasted it as an acceleration to achieve the socialist state through planned economy development and it was failed

[feral river]

it's not him calling for red guards if you are known about gang of four 🤷‍♂️

[shy summit]

People please.

Can’t we just roast anything else for five minutes

[twin quest]

" legendary leader " is a word that you copied from your history text book

[prisma cipher]

if you extrapolate the state of China to today, when old people can get pensions and life is much more stable. how can you calculate that more people died than people die living in poverty.

[twin quest]

like sacrifying 1 person for equality for others?

[prisma cipher]

we don't live in a movie

[twin jasper]

Any native english speaker would like to have voice chat ?

[twin quest]

you meant that it's good for Mao to kill peoples for equality for others?

or anything else?

[prisma cipher]

I just ignore it. And wait when you grow up.

[twin quest]

sound like you are as old as my teacher

[prisma cipher]

I hope he isn't that old

[feral river]

well no our history didn't even mention him as a 'legendary leader'

cult of personality is a alert in our politics after the cultural revolution caused political turmoil

but as expected you know nothing about Chinese politics that's why you would say it

[twin quest]

watch your words

didnt your mom taught you about this?

[feral river]

is there anything more terrible than emphasis the leader aura itself by crediting its achievement on the development of the state while talk nothing about what he have screwed up

[feral river]

watch your words seriously

[twin quest]

let's both report and see who will have to cry for the stream and media role

[feral river]

no freak who are even u ?

why would I give a shit

https://www.gov.cn/test/2005-06/24/content_9300.htm

The history of the "Cultural Revolution" proves that Mao Zedong's main arguments for launching the "Cultural Revolution" were neither in line with Marxism-Leninism nor with China's reality. These arguments were completely wrong in their assessment of China's class situation and the political situation of the Party and the country at that time.

The history of the "Cultural Revolution" proves that the main arguments of Mao Zedong's launching of the "Cultural Revolution" are not in line with these "left" erroneous arguments of Mao Zedong's launching of the "Cultural Revolution", and they have obviously deviated from the track of Mao Zedong Thought, which is the combination of the universal principles of Marxism-Leninism and the concrete practice of the Chinese revolution. They must be completely distinguished from Mao Zedong Thought. As for Lin Biao, Jiang Qing and others who were favored by Mao Zedong, they formed two counter-revolutionary groups that conspired to seize the highest power, took advantage of Mao Zedong's mistakes, and carried out a large number of criminal activities that harmed the country and the people behind his back. This is a completely different problem. Marxism-Leninism is also not in line with China's reality. These arguments are completely wrong in their assessment of the class situation in China at that time and the political situation of the party and the country.

it's pretty like a permanent revolution thing but not so special it was failed because we don't really want communism

[rose eagle]

Hmm yea.....

[ashen mortar]

lol who reads all

[shy summit]

The fuck have I come back to

[stray rock]

get a personality lmao

[scarlet cedar]

fr

[ashen mortar]

there are some ppl who reads it all

[scarlet cedar]

shout out to them

[rocky pivot]

hey guys, do you know the damage situation of Tampa due to Hurricane Milton?

[thorny steeple]

Oh My Gosh

[feral river]

I got mine whereas what you have displayed your personality as talking shit over me

get another one

LMAO

how many times I need to tell someone that I don't give any shit of this

[restive minnow]

This one woman physically put her hands on me and we got into a fight. And she literally choked me, slapped and hit me in the face, scratched me, held down on me, etc. And she comes to me, apologizing for her very disrespectful attitude, but I said don't fucking apologize- just stay away from me. Is it bad that I don't give a fuck about apologies, I give a fuck about changed attitudes and behaviour. Why do people act super disrespectful THEN feel bad for it, like- you already did it?

[thorny steeple]

Whats serious here

[manic juniper]

Meow Zedong

[jade iris]

Just be careful about her acts next time
As she apologized if the behaviour didn't justify the sorry she said than just leave

[jade iris]

If a person is really sorry about it they won't do the same thing again just keep track of her acts from now on or just be careful

[jade iris]

I wonder if she was a complete stranger if that's the case then idkkk what to say lol

[sage jay]

does anyone want to read a chapter of my novel and proofread it?

[final mica]

Hii everyone

[feral river]

you know how to destroy her but you fear

[feral river]

Floridian need therapy

[gaunt bronze]

Me please!!

[thorny steeple]

Novel reader

[thorny steeple]

Trumpist?

[feral river]

@shy summit you guys still got a chance isn’t it

Make America Great Again 🇺🇸

[dull breach]

Who do you want to be elected?

[feral river]

Trump Will win

[dull breach]

me too

[thorny steeple]

From the ashes we shall rise

[feral river]

Not surprised after 2022 most leftists government being taken down because they literally screwed up everything for their utopia

Next would be Canada and US

[thorny steeple]

STAN FOR PRESIDENT OF USA

VOTE FOR ME

[thorny steeple]

Basically greater north America

[feral river]

Stop the leftism, now

We don’t need communist utopia

[thorny steeple]

I will make the world live in peace, I will stop the letters, I will stop the gay creep

[feral river]

We don’t need to be robbed by political correctness

[thorny steeple]

We need anarchism

[feral river]

We don’t need to be live in this stupid economy that wasted too much on their stupid ideological development

[dull breach]

impossible

[feral river]

No one fucking want to live in a socialist state

[thorny steeple]

Possible

Just need a party and the guts

[feral river]

Axe the taxes, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime

[thorny steeple]

We need true global order

[feral river]

Donald Trump Donald Trump Donald Trump

[thorny steeple]

Trump supporter?

[shy summit]

Polymarket isn’t a reliable poll, most accurate ones show kamala barely ahead

[thorny steeple]

Then who will win?

[shy summit]

Too early to tell

[feral river]

U mean this type ?

What the heck

[thorny steeple]

Fan of it?

[feral river]

Trump will be elected for sure if it allows Chinese citizen to vote

[thorny steeple]

True imagine if China influences the election

[rose eagle]

Do you study anything in college? Why are you so active?

[rose eagle]

@feral river ????

[thorny steeple]

We need answers!

[rose eagle]

Yesss

Is it possible that he went to Korea to hunt for girls?

[thorny steeple]

Maybe who knows

[stray rock]

dude works for chinese propaganda as a full-time job 😂

[rose eagle]

Lmao

I think he is not smart enough to do that?

[thorny steeple]

Wumao it seems

[stray rock]

since when does it take intelligence to become a propagandist for china

[thorny steeple]

Not much it seems

[feral river]

im in collage yeah but why can't I being active and be in collage at the same time ?

I got more free time in my collage than in my home

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[thorny steeple]

Translate y'know not everyone here speaks Chinese

Although I can fake it with the translator I can't read it

[feral river]

"you racist shit"
"she's an indian american but she can be the president"
"this is the american value"
"Kamala Harris no.1"
"race true, gender true"
"damn true"
"you are just jealous of they are indian american qualified to be the president"
"LMAO"

that's what I'm saying with my CCP friend

yeah that's a member of CCP

[thorny steeple]

Damn the hell's going on with Chinese people why are they so interested in America politics

[thorny steeple]

Long live the CCP People it seems

[dense agate]

from a Chinese perspective whether Trump or Harris wins, doesn't change much

[feral river]

it's a damn hot topic in China and some people see the presidential forecast everyday

[dense agate]

both are doubling down on containing China and continuing the trade war

[feral river]

even we have a Chinese presidential forecast site of america

[thorny steeple]

Crazy, why are they so invested in it

[thorny steeple]

Great wonder what it says

[dense agate]

the whole world is

[thorny steeple]

Seems so

[feral river]

First, at 7 p.m. Eastern Time, voting will end in six states: Vermont, Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, South Carolina, and Georgia.

Among them, Indiana and Kentucky are two states that Trump can win. In 2020, Trump won by 16 percentage points in Indiana, and in Kentucky he surpassed Biden by 25 percentage points. Therefore, it is expected that most media will declare Trump the winner as soon as the voting in these two states ends.

that's what it says

[thorny steeple]

Okey interesting

[thorny steeple]

Team trump or team Kamala?

[feral river]

well most people team Trump in China

[thorny steeple]

Be not Afraid of moving slowly, be afraid of Standing Still - Chinese Proverb

[dense agate]

wasn't PA the one that's gonna decide the winner this year, they're neck to neck on it's polls

[thorny steeple]

Viva Trump it seems there

[feral river]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gf4y1277v/

idk if you can see this video

[dense agate]

im sure he'd love to borrow some votes from them lel

[thorny steeple]

Who knows

[thorny steeple]

Yep kekw

[feral river]

this video has 26 milion views in Chinese platform bilibili

[feral river]

you can try to watch it

[thorny steeple]

YouTube's alternative

[thorny steeple]

I used to read the comics in bilibili, a long time ago

[feral river]

I would say trump dominated in China if he got an election in here he can just be a dictator by votes

[thorny steeple]

True and make it a superpower better than America

[fair geyser]

Indeed

[thorny steeple]

Indeed Indeed

[turbid ivy]

Hello Muslim and atheist friends 🙂

[tame flame]

hello

[turbid ivy]

Are you a Muslim?

[feral river]

Don’t put it on me I didn’t take the gaokao exam and I’m a poor kid 💀

The truth is only around 50% of the student graduated from the middle school has right to be in high school and have a gaokao exam

Obviously I’m the other 50%

I’m a poor ass so fucked

[thorny steeple]

since I got past my exam, I absolutely stopped consuming English content, like I used to be watching something on YouTube and I was interested in it, but now I do it in my mother language, I think I kinda burned out. What's uncool about it is that even though now I can fully experience movies, culture yada yada yada, I don't do it; and I have this feeling of wasted potential.

[minor charm]

and what was your purpose of learning eng?

[minor charm]

why

[feral river]

because you have to meet the criteria to get into the high school

[timber yoke]

50% only meets super developped cities like Beijing, Shanghai. In other areas less developped, the rate is incredibly low. No more than 20% I believe.

And I guess you may come from some developped city in China mainland.

[feral river]

not that low as you think if they get into their local high school, it's around 50%, in developed cities about 70% more

I mean the rate of percentages of getting into high school, not universities

[timber yoke]

As far as I know, only 50% junior middle school students are admitted by senior middle school. This is what happens in Shanghai

[feral river]

that's another chapter of the topic for the chance of meeting criteria by number of students that could get a degree in university

[feral river]

in my province, Shandong province, it's 50%

I believe everywhere meet this criteria

[timber yoke]

Gaokao in Shandong is even harder.

[feral river]

Gaokao is what you have to finish to get into the university

what I'm saying is Zhongkao (middle school final exam)

[timber yoke]

Yep, we are in the same channel. In shanghai, 70% of high middle schools students went to universities by Gaokao.

[feral river]

where are you from ? Shanghai ?

[timber yoke]

exactly

[feral river]

cool I'm from Jinan, capital of the Shandong province

and now I'm in South Korea

[timber yoke]

That is one way shanghai students go to colledge. Rich kids go abroad.

[thorny steeple]

Guys I need help with TOEFL

[feral river]

now it's pretty cheap to study abroad isn't it

[timber yoke]

I don't think so. Depends on which country and which university. As far as I know, study in England and US still costs a lot of money, if no scholarship is provided.

[timber yoke]

Willing to help, but my English sucks...

[thorny steeple]

aaa

[minor charm]

they go abroad cuz there better education or just for traveling?

but in terms of networking and important connections studying abroad is really matter

[minor charm]

where r u fron

[thorny steeple]

Mongolia

[prisma cipher]

Oba, you speak Russian?

[thorny steeple]

a lil bittttt

[timber yoke]

bcz it is much easier for them to enter university than that in China. They don't need to take part in Gaokao, which is a nightmare for most trivial students. TBH, many universities in China are excellent enough. Top 50 universities in China is a very nice choice if able to.

Partially agree. Yale and Harford are only the choice for super talented students or super rich families. Not all Chinese officials have the privilege.

Yet all parents are trying their best to send their children to the best university. They will try everything and make all their efforts, what a parent in China.

[rose eagle]

LMAO!!??

your family is really rich

[prisma cipher]

Привет

[feral river]

bullshit I didn't got that much money probably 10000 USD is all enough to study abroad

don't give that stupid criteria as you go to some stupid collage in the US or Canada or hell cost UK for just a freaking diploma or immigration to say how is this study abroad expensive

it is a choice you made it expensive not itself is fucking expensive

or 20000 USD ? 20000 is much to you ?

I don't believe this bullshit you didn't got 20000 for studying

[timber yoke]

Take it easy bro.

[prisma cipher]

this is the game of the rich people when they pretend that they are not so rich.

[thorny steeple]

Приветт

[rose eagle]

Wtf?

10000usd!!?

[feral river]

are you out of your mind ?

10000 USD bro look at your pocket money of your family

[rose eagle]

How can it be so cheap?

[feral river]

I'm sure you guys spend more than 10000 USD on resort, grocery and some stupid credit card

[rose eagle]

not too expensive

[feral river]

even my pocket money have 5000-6000 USD

[rose eagle]

On average, very rich people think they are not really rich.

[feral river]

well 90% goes investment

no 95%

only around 4-5% is in cash for normal spending

[feral river]

that's not true, I'm not a rich even I'm just from a middle-income family which I'm actually a student

how is my allowance with my portfoilo generate that much you can call it rich ?

[rose eagle]

I think a middle class family in china would be considered rich when they were in vietnam

[feral river]

I'm just so good at maximize my benefit and I know money so well

I know some guy have the same age like me already having debt because they are abusing of using credit card or spending all of their allowance on girls something they like

[rose eagle]

and that is true because the average income per capita in vietnam is much lower than china

[rose eagle]

yea that's stupid vanity

[feral river]

if you everyday spend 3 USD for a drink, it's 1000 more per year

that's why I order the quantity of multiple drinks storing in my fridge, at a discount price

if it's possible I will just make it for myself, for example coffee

if you got a coke in China it's like 3 CNY per one, and if you got 50 or 100 cokes only cost you around 2 CNY or even less per one.

[timber yoke]

TBH, 5000$ pocket money makes you outstands against the others...

[rose eagle]

Hm

[rose eagle]

Yea

[feral river]

brand clothes, your stupid habit spends a lot of money and generate 0 profit, get rid of it

I'm sure you will have pocket money as I have asap

[timber yoke]

But 10000$ tuition a year is quite cheap for studying abroad.

[feral river]

Malaysia, Korea, Thailand, those are all available options

[rose eagle]

When my sister was a student in Hanoi, she had only 25 USD for food and drink every week.

[feral river]

come on you just need that stupid diploma I know you

anything else you need besides that paperwork ? I don't think so

[rose eagle]

what about japan?

[feral river]

Japan you need 20000 USD at least

[rose eagle]

Holyshiet korea is quite cheap

[feral river]

not much lol

sell all my stuff, investment protfolio, probably have that amount of money

but why the fuck I would spend 20000 USD for a diploma

I'm not stupid

I believe you just need 100k to start the real estate business in the US

[rose eagle]

I think compared to Southeast Asian countries except Singapore, I would rather study at university in Vietnam, my country, because it's cheap and i think the quality of education is not bad

[rose eagle]

Real?

[feral river]

yeah the lowest point I guess

[rose eagle]

I want to ask you a question, in China is there a concept of "extra classes" like in Vietnam?

and do any chinese students have to go to extra classes on saturday or sunday

It seems that there are very few countries where the majority of students are required to study on Saturdays as per the official schedule like vietnam, right?

[dense agate]

there are couple countries that still use the 6 day school week to this day

[feral river]

if you want yes but recently we have limitations on it

it's literally illegal for school to opening the extra classes for student

because we are doing it all the time in before and it was being criticized characterized as 'high pressure on students'

[dense agate]

oh yea they banned for-profit after-school tutoring

[feral river]

also it was unfair that making the education for becoming more accessible for certain rich families not everyone

well that's the obvious reasons, and the real reason behind it is how government is re-structuring the education system

to make it work properly and less stressful for citizens, and make it efficient to select the talents

if everyone are able to abuse money spending on private tutoring or other services for boost their performance, that's inefficient and new way to waste money

[dense agate]

that's not a solid argument for this though, you can't really remove the influence wealth has on education

[dense agate]

yea, the stress is very real, especially when gaokao is given high importance

[rose eagle]

Yeaa

[feral river]

that point is from the proxy of officials not me

I'm a capitalist I don't give a shit how many pressures they got

[turbid ivy]

Have we got any Muslims or athiest friends?

[ashen mortar]

[feral river]

yo dude im atheist

[rose eagle]

Me too

[turbid ivy]

[turbid ivy]

Interesting. Is murder wrong

[dense agate]

blud's moving toward the morality outside religion point

copy-paste script incoming

[real monolith]

Hello

[turbid ivy]

@last acorn So, when we say father, does that mean we meant that God does have a wife and a physical son?

[last acorn]

No

[turbid ivy]

So what does that mean when we say God is the father?

[last acorn]

this is what the trinity is
and they believe that allah is the father and he has a son which is jesus and they say that mary is his wife

that's what who believe in trinity believe in

[turbid ivy]

Jesus is his son his what way?
Which Christian said Mary is the wife of God?

[turbid ivy]

What is trinity?

[last acorn]

do u believe in trinity or do u believe that jesus is a god lemme know so i can understand u
for me i believe in the right thing i am not the one who is born in a some religion and believe only in it i believe in the true message

[last acorn]

who believe in trinity say that

Bro what do u believe in?

me as a muslim believe that allah is that one god who created everything
and he sent prophets like Adam, moses, jesus, mohamed,...
and allah sent them with the same message which is believing in one god and do what's good and don't do what's bad like stealing, killing, adultury, etc..

Does that makes sense? @turbid ivy

[turbid ivy]

I believe Jesus is God, not a God

[last acorn]

How do u believe he is a god and not a god?

[turbid ivy]

What do we say? Do we say God had sex with Mary and produced Jesus? Do we say Mary is wife of God?

[turbid ivy]

When did i say I believe he's a God? 🤨

[shy summit]

I think that point was made clear by the stance of christianity itself

[last acorn]

No u don't say that but there is some chirstians like a specific sect believe in trinity and already believe in that sadly

[last acorn]

Oh so u believe jesus is not a god?

okay so do i

Do you believe that allah created everything?

[turbid ivy]

Which sect?

[turbid ivy]

Of course he's not a God. He's the God. A God would imply there are multiple Gods and Jesus is one of them. Which we don't believe in it.

[turbid ivy]

I don't believe in Allah.

[wanton tree]

Hiii

[turbid ivy]

And I don't believe Allah is God either, since he is not all knowing and he makes mistakes

[last acorn]

What's ur proof on that?

[turbid ivy]

BTW in Islam Allah had physical relations with Mary tl produce Jesus

[clear meadow]

Not true.

[turbid ivy]

The Quran. Is Mary the mother of Jesus sister of Aaron?

[last acorn]

is this according to BBC or Fox news?
just lemme know

[clear meadow]

Yes

[turbid ivy]

It's according to the Qur'an, surah 66 verse 12 Abdul

[turbid ivy]

Who's Aaron BTW, the son of Imran? Khahah

[clear meadow]

Alright lets go one by one

[clear meadow]

What does that verse say exactly?

[turbid ivy]

Of course, for more depth convo, we can vc

[last acorn]

Yasser please wait i got him

[last acorn]

there is not a such thing as u claim?

[turbid ivy]

Well, that would mean Shiba is Allah

[clear meadow]

Its alright hes just going by the common and oldest suspiciousion ever

[clear meadow]

Exactly

[turbid ivy]

You are posting the tafsir, post the verse from the Qur'an..
Tryna be oversmart hah

If you are bad I'm your dad 😎

[last acorn]

Wait this is the actual verse
u wanna see the tafsir?
here u go
lol

[turbid ivy]

@weary belfry hahah 😎

[turbid ivy]

Abdul, that's a tafsir Ibn Kathir, post the actual verse from the Quran.

[last acorn]

Bro the verse is above

[turbid ivy]

What does the verse say?

[last acorn]

the tafsir is in the red line

[clear meadow]

this is the actual verse.

(66:12) Allah has also set forth the parable of Mary, the daughter of Imran,26 who guarded her chastity,27 and into whom We breathed of Our Spirit,28 and who testified to the words of her Lord and His Books. She was among the obedient

where does it say allah had a physical relationship?

[turbid ivy]

What does the verse say

[turbid ivy]

It's not chastity, it's Farojaha, the meaning is private part, ie vag*na.

[thorny steeple]

read it urself

[turbid ivy]

Do you read Arabic, sherlock khiihi?

[thorny steeple]

yes

[clear meadow]

Her literal brother not the same as prophet Aaron this is the stupidest argument ever

[clear meadow]

It can also mean chastity brother

[turbid ivy]

Translate this to me

[last acorn]

And Allah also mentions an example for those who have faith in Him and His Messengers, in the condition of Mary the daughter of ‘Imrān who safeguarded her private parts from fornication, so Allah commanded Gabriel to blow into her due to which she fell pregnant through the power of Allah with Jesus the son of Mary, without a father.
She also believed in the religions of Allah and the books revealed to His Messengers, and she was obedient to Allah by fulfilling His commands and refraining from the things He did not allow

[thorny steeple]

😭 u can literally ask google translate for that

[thorny steeple]

and the meaning

[turbid ivy]

What's the name of the father of Moses?

[thorny steeple]

is clearly above it

her chastity

[turbid ivy]

It means private part.

[clear meadow]

Imran?

[turbid ivy]

He literllay means private part

[weary belfry]

Hmmm? What's happened

[covert beacon]

Guys was there like a request for someone's getting banned yesterday?

[turbid ivy]

Here, private part. And the word Gabriel, where is it lhhihi

[thorny steeple]

the state or practice of refraining from extramarital, or especially from all, sexual intercourse.

this is the def of chastity

[turbid ivy]

Yaddhah and what's the name of the father of Mary?

[clear meadow]

I told u it had multiple translations. what does that provide to ur argument that allah had a physical relationship with mary as u said?

[last acorn]

Bro read can u read or they didn't teach u in kinder garden??????

[clear meadow]

Imran

[turbid ivy]

OK, so it means Allah breathed her spirit into her private part?

[last acorn]

@turbid ivy

[turbid ivy]

Yadhdhha, how is that they have the similar name of their father? And Aaron?

[turbid ivy]

Because he breathed into her private part

[thorny steeple]

ITS AN EXPRESSION

[last acorn]

Bro why do u always fly
we are talking about mary rn

[turbid ivy]

Post the word Gabriel from in that verse in Arabic

[thorny steeple]

where does it say private part i already told u the meaning of chastitiy

stop gaslighting now\

[turbid ivy]

Yadhdha, it says Be breathed into it his spirit.

[turbid ivy]

How am I flying?

[turbid ivy]

Whats the meaning of chastity?

What's the meaning of Farojaha?

It means private parts, ie va*Gina

[last acorn]

Abstaining from sexual intercourse and sexual activities outside marriage

[turbid ivy]

What's the meaning of Farojahah, lemme post the Arabic lexicon

[thorny steeple]

his SPIRIT

[thorny steeple]

chastity means refraining from sexual intercourse

[last acorn]

Bro read the whole verse
Can't u read the whole verse in the condition of Mary the daughter of ‘Imrān who safeguarded her private parts from fornication, so Allah commanded Gabriel to blow into her due to which she fell pregnant through the power of Allah

here is the verse

here is the explaination

should i tag ppl and put this emoji "😎"
like u did before or what?
if u r a minor and don't know how to discuss just lemme know @turbid ivy

[turbid ivy]

Fa-Ra-Jiim = To open, separate, cleave, split, enlarge, part, let a space between, make a room, comfort anything in, dispel cares. An opening, intervening space [gap or breach] between two things. Ex: Parting hind legs or intervening spaces between fingers.
He opened, made room, ample space.

Furijat - Cloven, split, rent, opened.

Farjun (Pl. Furuj) - Pudenda (sex organ); chastity, space between legs (of horse or mare), part/s of a person (male/female) indecent to expose, external portions of the organs of generation [of a male/female]. Also the posterior pudendum because it is a place of opening, of between the legs.

faraja vb. (1) perf. pass. 77:9

farj n.m. (pl. furuj) 21:91, 23:5, 24:30, 24:31, 33:35, 50:6, 66:12, 70:29
Lane's Lexicon: Fa Ya Jiim

[last acorn]

Read the whole verse lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[turbid ivy]

Where does it say he commanded Gabriel to blow into her?

[turbid ivy]

Which verse?

[last acorn]

Bro HERE IS THE VERSE!!!!
TF

IN ENGLISH AND THIS IS NOT THE TAFSIR THIS IS THE ACTUAL VERSE

BRO READ

[last acorn]

THIS IS THE TAFSIR SO U CAN UNDERSTAND MORE

[thorny steeple]

😭 bro seems high

[turbid ivy]

Do you think I'm that dumb? This is the verse in arabic.
وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهۦ وكانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢

Where does it say Allah told Angel Gabriel to blow? Mark the word

[turbid ivy]

وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنت فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَت مِن ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢

Which word here is angel Gabriel?

[last acorn]

BRO WTF BRO DON'T MAKE ME BREAK MY PC

LISTEN

HERE IS THE WORD THAT REFERS TO "Gabriel"

[clear meadow]

People back then used to give names after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them.

[turbid ivy]

Can you mark the word here in that verse Allah saying Angel Gabriel blow into it? If you can't just Mark on it, you are lying.

[clear meadow]

💀

that wasnt even the correct word smh

[turbid ivy]

No, the word here is Ruhina which means spirit. It's nowhere says Jibreel

[weary belfry]

Why is this chat always wildin

[last acorn]

Here u go, nobu

[turbid ivy]

That's a good excuse, but the quran in Surah 19 it literally says the wife of Imran literally gave birth to Mary.

[clear meadow]

Al-Ruh is Jibreel dawg thats basic islamic knowledge

[turbid ivy]

Again, there is no word called there Jibreel. Do you want me to teach Arabic?

[turbid ivy]

Where did you get that from?

[clear meadow]

Verse?

[last acorn]

The word "روحنا" or "Our spirit" refers to "Jibreel"

[clear meadow]

U can google that

[last acorn]

Bro

pls don't enter the discussion

[clear meadow]

Im helping u dawg

[last acorn]

u r ruining everything
"google it" really?

[clear meadow]

I cant share pictures.

[turbid ivy]

3:35-38

[clear meadow]

i can share sources tho

[turbid ivy]

How did you know that

[clear meadow]

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/14403/who-is-the-holy-spirit

here u go ig

[last acorn]

That is known in islam every muslim know this
since u r chirstian it is the same as the holy spirit which means "Jibreel"

[turbid ivy]

So you got that from Google? Somebody wrote in Google that Jibreel is the spirit of Allah and you believed in it? Now, which guy wrote that Jibreel is the spirit of Allah and how did he know that? Is he a prophet.

[last acorn]

Dawg ur discussion is with me right here

[turbid ivy]

Khahah, I'm asking you to justify how did you know that

[last acorn]

This is the same as if u are saying 1+1 = 2
why can u explain?
bro "Jibreel" is also known as the holy spirit

This is this

that is that

[clear meadow]

A well known islamic website and basically common knowledge

[turbid ivy]

When did I claim 1 + 1 = 2?
But you claimed Jibreel is the spirit of Allah, so how did you know he's spirit of Allah?

[clear meadow]

i meant to share a pic with "u can google that" but it for some reason didnt let me

[turbid ivy]

So, you got that from that website author, where did he get that from?

[last acorn]

He is being called like that
this is an adjective of him

[turbid ivy]

Where is he called like that?

[last acorn]

In that last verse nobo

وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنت فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن (((((رُّوحِنَا))))) وَصَدَّقتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وكانَت مِن ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ

[turbid ivy]

Which last verse

[last acorn]

BROOOO THIS ONE

[thorny steeple]

leave him, common sense left his mind

[last acorn]

BRO ARE U FR? @turbid ivy

[clear meadow]

Well known Scholars and multiple narrators

[thorny steeple]

long ago

[last acorn]

🥲

[turbid ivy]

Where is jaberl here

[turbid ivy]

I will give 1000 usd to any Muslim if they are able to show me Jibreel in that verse khh

[thorny steeple]

UFFF THEY TOLD U ALREADY

[clear meadow]

U said surah 19 thats not surah 19....

[tulip flicker]

don't u know something called indirect meaning?

[turbid ivy]

Who's we

[turbid ivy]

Mb

[thorny steeple]

they*

[turbid ivy]

I do, where is jibreel in that verse

[turbid ivy]

I'm talking abt 66.12

[thorny steeple]

aaa ur acting sstupid i aint debating with u

u gaslight

[turbid ivy]

Win 1000 usd

[thorny steeple]

no u cook peoples brain even tho uk the answer to it becz eevryones been telling u for a million times

[last acorn]

American express: 378282246310005

Still didn't got that 1000 USD?

Here u go mate i can recieve on that 378282246310005 card number

@turbid ivy ?

[clear meadow]

What are u also trying to reference by this verse?

[turbid ivy]

Where is Jibreel here

[last acorn]

Are u blind?

[turbid ivy]

That Allah is not all knowing

[last acorn]

What is your proof?

huh?

[turbid ivy]

Are you?

[clear meadow]

Idk how ur claim has anything to do with mary but ur proof?

[last acorn]

Bro u r claiming and im tired of ur claimings
Hope u enjoy ur life mate and when we all die and that doomsday come
i will be enjoying ur face reactions

[turbid ivy]

About?

[last acorn]

That word is already highlighted here can't u see it or u are a color blind boi

[clear meadow]

Al-Ruh is jibreel....... he goes by many names, please stop repeating that same old argument

[last acorn]

That allah is not knowing???
why do u say that what's ur proof tho?

[clear meadow]

I will go study instead of this weird ahh argument

[last acorn]

Mate take me with u pls i can't stand here anymore

[clear meadow]

He doesnt even know his own arguments

[last acorn]

Lmao

What do u study tho?

[clear meadow]

bio

[last acorn]

Studying Minecraft?

[clear meadow]

lol

i have it open for a mob farm

[turbid ivy]

Come to the vc

[last acorn]

Bro let's study together i have that book too

[last acorn]

Bro everything is clear idk why are u arguing like that

[turbid ivy]

If you can prove, I'm in the vegan vc

[last acorn]

Sorry man we enjoy steaks more

[turbid ivy]

I will make you read that verse, come totally the vegan vc
If you will be able to prove that there is angel jibeeel mentioned in Surah 66.12, I will credit your a/c with 1000 dollars khahah

[weary belfry]

big bet

[turbid ivy]

[smoky pagoda]

Yea brain 🧠 dead what are you talking about?

[tulip flicker]

even if he proves u wrong u will not give that amount of money so why lying u seem the kinda person that doesn't accept his loss

[smoky pagoda]

Fr fr

[turbid ivy]

I will give him the amount. Join

[smoky pagoda]

He is just yapping bruhhhhhhhhh

[turbid ivy]

If he able to prove there is angel jibreel mentioned

[smoky pagoda]

💀 There is

[tulip flicker]

yeah no thanks i prefer completing my relaxed day and not make it worse

[smoky pagoda]

I literally showed you few weeks ago

[turbid ivy]

I'm in the vegan vc

[turbid ivy]

[smoky pagoda]

Surah 2:97-98

97. Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is he who has brought down the Qur'an upon your heart by Allah's leave, confirming what preceded it, and guidance and good tidings for the believers."

98. Whoever is an enemy to Allah, His Angels, His Messengers, Gabriel, and Michael - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.

[turbid ivy]

I'm in the vegan vc, you can try again

[smoky pagoda]

I'm waiting for my 1000$

[smoky pagoda]

Dawg

[smoky pagoda]

@turbid ivy

[turbid ivy]

Khaha is that surah 66.12?

[smoky pagoda]

Send the 1000$

[weary belfry]

[smoky pagoda]

No this is another verse.

[turbid ivy]

What did you prove?

[smoky pagoda]

Gabriel == an angel

Not God or something

[turbid ivy]

Well but I said where is angel jibreel in Surah 66.12

[turbid ivy]

Is Jesus an angel?

[smoky pagoda]

Ruh al Qudus bruhhhhhhhhh

Meaning Gabriel

The archangel

[turbid ivy]

Quran itself makes distinction between angels and the spirit

[smoky pagoda]

Ofc not

[smoky pagoda]

Oh my god

Cuz he's a high level angel

That's why not any angel

[turbid ivy]

Ruh means spirit
The al qudus is one of the name of Allah theheh

[weary belfry]

@void wedge @stable hinge Why does this remind me of Lucifer Michaelson?

[smoky pagoda]

💀 No

[turbid ivy]

High level angel do the job of a mail man?

[turbid ivy]

Ruh means spirit

[smoky pagoda]

Not a mail man

[void wedge]

[smoky pagoda]

An angel

[turbid ivy]

Al qudus is one of the name of Allah

[smoky pagoda]

Al Qudus means the pure

Not the holy spirit bruhhhhhhhhh

[turbid ivy]

The job of a messenger, like he goes to deliver a message like a mail man. What's the high level authorisation do?

[tulip flicker]

in Arabic a word can have 1000 meanings u can't say that, specially in te Quran that's why it need explanation to each verse dude

[stable hinge]

Oh who is he pookie? I dont know him

[turbid ivy]

They send tiny level workers to send messages khhaha

[smoky pagoda]

Yep

[turbid ivy]

Ooi hi

[stable hinge]

Hello

[turbid ivy]

It's the name of Allah

[weary belfry]

Oh, mb pookis. Will explain you later

[smoky pagoda]

[stable hinge]

Oh its alright

[smoky pagoda]

Yes 💀 the pure

[smoky pagoda]

Al Qudus means the pure

[turbid ivy]

You meaning ruh means angel?

[smoky pagoda]

Ruh al Qudus means holy spirit different word

Different meaning

[turbid ivy]

It's not angel khaha

[tulip flicker]

omg dude

[smoky pagoda]

Oh my god I literally showed you the verse confirming that he's

[turbid ivy]

No lol she was in the vc

[smoky pagoda]

I'm telling he's brain dead

[tulip flicker]

he will never try to understand

[smoky pagoda]

Won't change the fact that you're a simp

[turbid ivy]

You mean ruh means angel?

[turbid ivy]

I never did that

[smoky pagoda]

No the word alone means something else the whole this 3 words together it refers to Gabriel

[smoky pagoda]

Who knows

[weary belfry]

@stable hinge laugh w my got

[stable hinge]

[weary belfry]

You started the 24/7 vc tour

[turbid ivy]

Something else, what in exactly?

[stable hinge]

[smoky pagoda]

Ruh al Qudus == holy spirit and in Quran it is written multiple times holy spirit refers to archangel Gabriel he had this title

[stable hinge]

Why is it without you honey?

[weary belfry]

Btw I wanna say smth. I think you know what's this. Add the list

[turbid ivy]

I'm a priest

[stable hinge]

AAAAAAAHHHHH stop itt

[weary belfry]

Yaaaaa I wanna come there tho

[smoky pagoda]

Still won't change the fact that you're a simp

[weary belfry]

neva

[turbid ivy]

How did you know? Beside, Gabriel is not the archangel, cause he does the job of a lower angel

[smoky pagoda]

Omg

Dude please get a brain

[stable hinge]

You're always welcome

[turbid ivy]

[weary belfry]

Is there a sentence underlying this message?

[stable hinge]

Nooooooo

Of course nottt

[smoky pagoda]

"Unto you, your religion; and unto me, my religion." (Quran 109:6)

Believe whatever you want

Don't suck our brain cells

[weary belfry]

good newss
Anywayss, enjoyy in vcss, cya later

[turbid ivy]

you always quote that verse, that verse is abrogated

[turbid ivy]

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

[feral river]

depends on the consequences

[smoky pagoda]

Huh

Where is this from

[smoky pagoda]

💀 This is the first time I used this verse

[turbid ivy]

Does the murder have any better consequence?

[feral river]

everything comes to a cost, I don't see any place you won't get punished by kill someone arbitrarily

[turbid ivy]

From the Bible. Meaning, I have started care about other people, so, I will have to tell the truth

[turbid ivy]

Why we will need to get punished? What's really wrong?

There might be some people who thinks killing is Good

[feral river]

one moment after I finished the game

[molten thistle]

Is it immature to cut off people who make mean insults and jabs, and people who make you feel really sad or down about yourself/ruin your mood and confidence? 🫠
just people who you feel have been very disrespectful, verbal and physical
Even if they're close to you, or even if they apologize, you still find yourself uninterested because they were too hurtful?

[turbid ivy]

Alr, but I'm going to read something, I will be back after an hour later

[smoky pagoda]

💀 Bruhhhhhhhhh become a true Christian first

[quaint anchor]

Never feel bad about wanting to protect yourself, it's always your choice who you are friends with, nobody can force it.

[ashen mortar]

real

[ashen mortar]

its get hard when you have limited options

[quaint anchor]

How so?

[thorny steeple]

Who dare to ping me

[weary belfry]

@thorny steeple me

[thorny steeple]

How can I help you fake moon

[weary belfry]

Someone called me fake moon

[thorny steeple]

Who dare to say that???

[feral river]

because if you can arbitrarily kill a person without consequences, everyone would apply so, that basically ain't benefit the majority of people in the society

that's why the authority followed their mind to maintain the rule and order

[clear meadow]

he is pulling the same old argument for weeks? 💀

[smoky pagoda]

It was me

[smoky pagoda]

He needs new brain 🧠 at this point fr

His current one is dead

[thorny steeple]

You son of a glitch

[smoky pagoda]

Lol just wanted to check your pfp lol zineb told you guyz matching

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/trying-not-to-laugh-zoom-in-close-up-holding-it-back-gif-17288301

[dense agate]

less polished but yes, basically it would be unethical, moral principles can exist outside of religion

[smoky pagoda]

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@thorny steeple

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Hey delete this don't

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??

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what's the wrong ?? i don't get it 😭😭

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He's said you told him that we matching

It was a secret

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what u didn't tell me akhii

he started laughing at me @smoky pagoda

[smoky pagoda]

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hmmm

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oh that's hurrt

[smoky pagoda]

Chill kiddo

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Your punishment

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HUMAN RIGHTS

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Women rights

[smoky pagoda]

I'm calling 911

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i'll sell u someday

[smoky pagoda]

Gr8 idea

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Duh?

[smoky pagoda]

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I'm not for sale

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that was cuz of u

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yes u'll be

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Uncle John

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😔

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yup yup

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اسکت

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Translate

Asap

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I got a headache cuz of u

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Sowwie

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hmmmmmmmm what now

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Die

With patience

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when u die first

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😭 😭 😭

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Ladeess first

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not with me

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With everyone

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yeah with u too

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stooop soo cutee

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Read Birkenhead drill

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no

@dapper laurel how's life been?

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You should

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[smoky pagoda]

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Ahhahahahah

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hmmmmmmmm

[feral river]

in my dictionary, moral is separate into 2 different categories, which is respectively public moral and private moral, the one which used by authority to maintain the rule and order, and the other one in which an individual using a set of traits and intuition to instruct themselves to preserve their interest.

most times two categories are not contradicted, but using different prospect to inspect the matter that contained moral issues

[thorny steeple]

How's your view on ethics

[feral river]

for instance, no smoke in public, for public morality it can be regulate people for a better environment, for private one, it's the instruction by the authority to inform you that you have to obey that or you will face consequences

and conversely, if there's no rule says you can't smoke in this public area, by in general public moral you should not smoke in this area because it would annoy other people, but by private moral, you can smoke there and bear the consequences that probably will not happen.

[dense agate]

buddy this is nonsense, i know (or at least i assume to know) what you're trying to say but you've said it in the most misleading arbitrary way

[smoky pagoda]

Sus hmm

[feral river]

well that's in my dictionary that's how I added the statement

[thorny steeple]

hmm

[feral river]

permanent social factors obviously

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Okey

[night parcel]

hi

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Hmmm 🤔

[feral river]

sometimes it has other nuance like how blacks are good at running or sport that's truth they got more powerful gene

but I know how the heck they are good at some field doesn't mean I can be black

[thorny steeple]

Do you know anyone named Veronica?

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😔

[feral river]

which will remain as a social factor to distinguish people

[night parcel]

whos that

[dense agate]

it being in your "dictionary" doesn't mean it can't be nonsense, kind of reflecting how's your understanding or rather the lack it on this topic

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ZINEb Gang Here

[feral river]

then I would say that's kinda offensive because I clearly stated that's what I'm thinking not what I'm thinking the other people was thinking.

and you call it nonsense, okay

I didn't impose it on anyone that's just my view

[thorny steeple]

wtf lmaoo

[dense agate]

you can see it as offensive and that's a fair point, but i don't have to sugarcoat an idea/opinion that i think makes little to no sense, and it's not like im trying to be insulting

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[feral river]

okay I guess

in my opinion religion is also a social factor that's why I may belongs to any religion with a flexibility status of making my social factor looking good for my interest and I ain't be faith

[dense agate]

if you'd look up a bit about ethics and morality you'd see yourself that your "view" was constructed in a very arbitrary way but at it's core it does have some truth, but was just built in non thorough way

[feral river]

inherently I'm a capitalist, I do whatever it benefits me, no barriers

[thorny steeple]

hru bud?

[feral river]

moral, religion those are tools for me to seek more interest, not a lock on me to limit my potential

[thorny steeple]

Good wbu mate 🧉

[dense agate]

that's more like egoist or self-interested rather than a capitalist

[feral river]

I don't think that was not so thoroughly as you think probably you don't know me that much

[feral river]

you are right, I prefer to call myself a capitalist rather than egoist

because egoist are literally not a good word but I'm

I don't need to be faith anytime actually I can tell lie to specific people for interest

I have experience that I can wrote a book called "the art of lie" I guess 🤣

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i'm well thx for asking

[feral river]

what I needed to do is make people thinking I'm a faith man, but inherently I'm not.

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Gtk, how's college going

[dense agate]

capitalist is someone who engages in profit-making rather but are also self-interested

[feral river]

so I'm a legendary story maker or I would be qualified to get a sell job obviously

[feral river]

then both are kinda crossed I'm proud of it

if you looking at MBTI, I would be the ENTP

[thorny steeple]

sooo boring ngl

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Yep with the lectures what's your field 🏑

[dense agate]

sure why not

[feral river]

at least you know something about me 🤣

everything turns to a deal if you get me enough pay I would do everything

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science ( i'm in the high school btw)

[dense agate]

i'd attempt to show you how it can be expressed properly but why bother

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Same here btw

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Wasting time

[feral river]

u mean my english problem ?

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ohh reallyy ! nice wbu what's ur field

[feral river]

yeah my english is terrible I think

[dense agate]

you're aware there could be social consequences in case you got caught lying, and that would be against someone's self interest

[thorny steeple]

Don't have one yet, highschool y'know

[dense agate]

no no, i can understand what you say even with mistakes, but i was talking about the fiesta abut ethics and morals

and also breaking rules and regulations can be beneficial but again, it would be against your self interest since you can be prosecuted

[feral river]

yeah sometimes I choose to bear it, depends how is this gonna be worked out as a profitable deal.

[thorny steeple]

haaaaaaa ok ok i gotchu

[feral river]

for example, if I cheat on my class, I may got expelled if I was being caught, but using hacking technology I'm sure the percentage of being caught is 10^-1bil% so I would do it.

and I did, I passed LOL

[dense agate]

no one wants to end up as a pariah, it's in our self interest to make sure we're not seing as such

[dense agate]

bruh cheating in college

aren't you like studying finance or something

no need t cheat on that

[dense agate]

life is short, we should make sure we spend as much time as possible arguing online with strangers

[feral river]

well cheating on the class pretty easy for me or it's unnecessary even because the dean has special tie with me and he will pass everything for me

[thorny steeple]

Yep

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True meaning, you seem like the next Socrates

[feral river]

last time I forgot to take a final exam and I told him he just literally modified my score from 23 to 96

so thanks for the corruption

[dense agate]

i ain't spending my life talking about virtues

[feral river]

hummm bro almost all of my knowledges from self-taught I'm a terrible student

I ain't qualified to have a gaokao exam

[dense agate]

private education be like

[dense agate]

what's your major ?

[feral river]

not to take it and be the 50% of the successful student to be into the collage but I can't even have a chance

[thorny steeple]

?def Socrates

[cursive bobcat]

Word: Socrates

Definition (noun): ancient Athenian philosopher; teacher of Plato and Xenophon (470-399 BC)

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

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Then be Xenophon

[feral river]

well my literal major is big data science which I studied nothing about it

but I can do a lot of job, included not limited from network security, system designer, network engineering, server staff, code audit...

or some blockchain researcher position in China not that much but I can try

I can even programming the blockchain system

[dense agate]

why only ancient ones, you got something against post-renaissance era thinkers ?

[dense agate]

not a bad a major

[feral river]

idc my major actually I just need that paperwork

I don't need a diploma to get a job

[thorny steeple]

Nope wanna be Da Vinci

[dense agate]

then why are you in college ?

[feral river]

because my mom forced me into

and she funds it all, so why not

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/who-painted-the-mona-lisa-da-vinci-da-vinky-tiktok-meme-gif-18534341

[feral river]

I will just be chill in here and having more free time to play anything I want

to travel

[dense agate]

momy's boy

[feral river]

last year I was in Singapore, this year I was in Japan and South Korea

just for resort

[dense agate]

might as well try to get a job there as well

[thorny steeple]

True

[feral river]

I can't I was in a collage I have free time at collage not outside

and I don't wanna be a cheap labor so

[dense agate]

i meant after graduating

[feral river]

why would I lmao

[dense agate]

ain't that the case in China ?

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Michel de Montagne fan?

[feral river]

that's case for people who has nothing after graduation

for me I have my portfolio, I own my house free debt, I can do a lot of job because I have skills

I can even just ask my friend for help cuz I just got friend who graduated 2 years and he got an amazing job or just join my relative's company

I just got too much choices I don't know what to choose

[dense agate]

when it comes to france, if it ain't marquis de sade, foucault, descartes then it's a pass

and if you feel like you got enoughfree space in your head you can jump onto Deleuze

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Ofc there are many

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And then onto Italian Renaissance philosophy

[dense agate]

idk how's the situation there in China, but in most countries it ain't a meritocracy, if you're profile is attractive enough -whatever that can mean- you can secure decent job

[dense agate]

that one idk much about

[thorny steeple]

"All things are created and destined to be broken someday.

[dense agate]

i'd love to continue reading about philosophy, especially ethics, but at times it can sway me away from my own major and focus

[thorny steeple]

"All things are created and destined to be broken someday.
I think being broken or damaged is never a bad thing." - Kiyokawa Hiroki

[dense agate]

unless being "broken" diminishes our overall happiness, increasing our suffering and reduces people's well being, then it is bad, or at least that's what a utilitarian would say

[thorny steeple]

?def utilitarianism

[cursive bobcat]

Word: utilitarianism

Definition (noun): doctrine that the useful is the good; especially as elaborated by Jeremy Bentham and James Mill; the aim was said to be the greatest happiness for the greatest number

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

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Hello Serious Chat

Damn too dark here

Anyone here?

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Alright lemme camp here

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[blissful flame]

me

[frosty plume]

me too

[worn bolt]

👀

[sonic hazel]

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[sonic hazel]

Hi!

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How's it going Sus Lorena

[sonic hazel]

Very fine, hbu?

It is strange not to have a lot of controversial conversations here.

[thorny steeple]

Very alright miss

[thorny steeple]

True without agathin being involved

To quiet it

[sonic hazel]

Sometimes I even think about sending something, but many would not understand, so I give up.

I choose my peace

[thorny steeple]

Don't give up so easily

Be Lorena the adventurous

[sonic hazel]

There are certain things that it is better to avoid. I prefer to try with other things.

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Always avoid life 🧬

[sonic hazel]

I avoid discussions, especially in writing. I prefer to talk about certain matters personally. So...

[thorny steeple]

Makes sense

Y'know that not anyone here isn't taking your views lightly

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Everything that is said here is judged. And if you do not agree with the majority, it’s over. end of game. Nothing mature..

[thorny steeple]

True

God I love to disagree with the majority

[sonic hazel]

me too

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Always acting like children

[young dragon]

Hi everyone!

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I hate politics, guys would you convince me that it is necessary?

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Then society goes to hell

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But if they want to go to hell?