🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

well maybe you think that's a problem actually we got a better solution without immigrants

cooperate with some countries in africa and exploit their labors

[rugged cove]

u said bullshit thing okay...the reason all of u write before is nothing meaning. cause u wrong to see the truth

[feral river]

we provide infrastructure, guns to maintain their regime and they gotta work hard for Chinese companies

[quasi needle]

so you’re going to deny facts by calling it bullshit

[molten magnet]

in the last 50 years japan china taiwan singapore hong kong more details their systems are more capitalist

[quasi needle]

least obvious brainwashed person

[thorny steeple]

🦅what about Thailand, Phillipines and other asian/African countries

[manic juniper]

Hong Kong isn't a country

[quasi needle]

i can see the truth because i’m not restricted to what my government wants me to do

[feral river]

Hong Kong S.A.R,

[manic juniper]

Also Taiwan and Japan are literal allies of the West

[rugged cove]

okay...is that right to go on israel side when genoside from israel to palestine citizen?

[thorny steeple]

one country two government

[molten magnet]

They saved their people from more poverty. I think Türkiye should look to Asia, not to the West, to countries like South Korea.

[feral river]

one country two systems

[manic juniper]

I'm sorry I can't see how India can be that powerful when they only recently surpassed UK in GDP and they have an absurd amount of people

[thorny steeple]

South korea and Taiwan too

[manic juniper]

The poverty and inequality there must be insane

[rugged cove]

why US never waring israel on PBB and thread them like do it when ukraine-russia?

[manic juniper]

I agree with that at least

[quasi needle]

holy fuck. i already said i don’t support any side, but america is allowed to support its ally in a responsive attack. lest the proportions are awful

[quasi needle]

it is

[molten magnet]

Are we comparing the power of countries or the welfare of the people?

[thorny steeple]

They have 1.5 billion people
They can easily surpass everyone but still have low per capita income

[feral river]

South Korean military dictator Park Chung Hee lead the Korean people achieved great economic success

[manic juniper]

The problem with slavery is that it's less productive, China will need skilled regulated workers just like the slow demographic fall of western countries

[manic juniper]

The two things are intrinsically tied since being wealthier usually makes you more productive

[thorny steeple]

you are from China or Hong kong

[molten magnet]

Yes, economic success can come with authoritarian leaders too. Forget the Western myth.

[manic juniper]

Some of the most productive countries of Europe have very few people but good living standards

[rugged cove]

huh...u still not awake? okay...what the reason for US war on vietnam? is that for ideology...cause i thing the freedom if that communist or capitalist or any ideology.

[feral river]

Hong Kong is China and I'm from China mainland

[real monolith]

coughs 🇫🇮 coughs

[thorny steeple]

so you aren't from hongkong

[quasi needle]

yes, to prevent the spread of communism, a BAD ideology that has NEVER worked on its own

and ends up in authoritarian regimes that subject their citizens to horrible standsrds

[molten magnet]

It is not always meaningful to be related. India may be stronger than the United Kingdom with much more manpower. Turkish army is stronger than Germany nowadays for example.

[quasi needle]

technology is infinitely more important than manpower

[thorny steeple]

😭 exceptions

[rugged cove]

BAD? for who side?....christian and catholic is same for jesust but them is different. so chirstian said is catholic bad and otherwise...so what the true bad then?

[quasi needle]

you are making no sense

[thorny steeple]

Eg UKRAINE 🦅

[quasi needle]

have you ever heard of the USSR living standards…?

you have done zero research on the topic

[thorny steeple]

they are done

[rugged cove]

u only cant prove and doing what u want...u got crave to propaganda US

[quasi needle]

you are speaking from an emotive view

[quasi needle]

lol

you say while actively falling to propaganda

[manic juniper]

Are you aware of Germany's progressive dismantling of its army post-WW2? If Germany wanted to they'd only be behind UK in Europe

[molten magnet]

An experienced and disciplined army that will use technology is always important, manpower has not lost its importance yet. In addition, Türkiye has progressed a lot in the technological field in the last 20 years, from unmanned aerial vehicles to new generation fighter jets.

[manic juniper]

If not stronger but with a worse navy

[thorny steeple]

fooly see from the eyes of common sense

[quasi needle]

germany has a larger economy than the uk, they’d definitely be able to go ahead the uk if they tried

[manic juniper]

Besides Germany is rearming which is good

[quasi needle]

i respect turkey aside from the government’s stance on media freedom

[rugged cove]

come on...answer it, BAD for who side?

[quasi needle]

and its history of forcing islanic principles

[molten magnet]

Yes, but if you destroy a country, it will develop much faster. It is Bismarck's authoritarian rule that makes Germany what it is.

[quasi needle]

THE CITIZENS. ITS NOT A DIFFICULT CONCEPT

[rugged cove]

so why chinese have a big growth then?

[quasi needle]

because they use capitalism as well

[molten magnet]

thank you ı respect every country

[manic juniper]

His governing style was effective for his time and to make rapid changes in a short time but doesn't work in the modern day. Not only that, it didn't work even right after he left since the system couldn't sustain the country's new challenges

[rugged cove]

but chinese said them communist

[quasi needle]

the ussr was a hardcore communist state that FAILED. china uses a blend of the two and is becoming more of a capitalist country than a communist one

[thorny steeple]

Bro India and China are exceptions in this world 😭

[manic juniper]

They have billionaires in the communist party

[rugged cove]

but still communist

[quasi needle]

china can say whatever, they’re capitalist

with a blend of communism

[thorny steeple]

USA 🗿
Apple, Microsoft, Adobe.....

[quasi needle]

so…? capitalism alongside communism is not the same as extreme communism

[rugged cove]

hah....like u can say whatever, u are empty on head

[quasi needle]

i can say whatever because i’ve extensively researched the topic

[molten magnet]

Who says it doesn't work in the modern age? Lee Kuan Yew was a benevolent dictator who made Singapore super rich and they still have the best public services in the world.

[quasi needle]

you seem like an emotive prick

[rugged cove]

vietnam learning communist on chinese fyi

and US attack them

why not attack chinse the source of communist for vietnam?

[thorny steeple]

bro wants ww3-4

[molten magnet]

Kemal Ataturk was a good dictator in Turkey, he created a secular republic, built factories and industrialized them.

[quasi needle]

vietnam effectively dropped communism for a market driven economy

[thorny steeple]

dictators are always good for the economy but bad for people
Eg: Putin

[manic juniper]

Authoritarian governments are pure gambling, look at most of Africa, Turkmenistan, other Central Asian countries, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela. The bad examples far outweigh the good

Or Belarus

[molten magnet]

If it weren't for Kemal Ataturk, Türkiye would be like Iran now.

[manic juniper]

The amount of times you get good dictators like Atatürk and Sankara is pure luck, most of the times you get a Francisco Franco or a Ceausescu

[molten magnet]

not always depends on country

[manic juniper]

And pray you don't get a Salazar or Hitler

[thorny steeple]

iran = 😭 cause of Islamic extremism

[rugged cove]

so? ur point is US attack vietnam cause communist....why not attack chinese?

why not attack russia?

[manic juniper]

Because they used to be allies and USA doesn't persecute communists as much anymore

[quasi needle]

because china is a thousandfold more powerful and isn’t a hardcore communism state

[molten magnet]

I am not advocating dictatorship or democracy. Just the right governance varies from country to country. If you try to bring democracy to Iraq, you will destroy Iraq like America.

[rugged cove]

why must small country?

[quasi needle]

russia is entirely capitalist now

it was preventing the spread of the USSR

what is so hard to get about that

[molten magnet]

so sad

[thorny steeple]

[manic juniper]

People seem to forget China and the Russian Empire were allies of USA

[quasi needle]

a country without a market driven economy will eventually fail

[manic juniper]

Modern Russia isn't but it almost was in the 90s

[quasi needle]

modern russia isn’t because of putin and his expansionist views

[rugged cove]

that the point...them attack small country than big coutnry....only adds the reason for attack...when u got dozen reason for attack china or russia..but them both is big like US

[quasi needle]

if not for putin i expect they wouldn’t be an enemy

[molten magnet]

Most authoritarian governments right now are garbage because they are anti-Western. South Korea, Singapore and Türkiye were pro-Western authoritarians.

[manic juniper]

There was an hint under Yeltsin but he was too weak to materialise it decisively

[rugged cove]

how about north korean?

[quasi needle]

what

[manic juniper]

It really went downhill after the self coup of 1993

[quasi needle]

north korean standards are the worst in the world

[rugged cove]

communist

[rugged cove]

why not attack like veitnam?

[quasi needle]

america won’t attack them because they have a policy to nuke america if their leader gets assassinated

[manic juniper]

South Korea wouldn't be where it is without USA's support, they only became a modern country in the 70s

[rugged cove]

so them can attack vietnam cause, vietnam not have nucklear

[manic juniper]

Yes

[quasi needle]

yes they can attack vietnam to prevent the spread of the ussr and its inhumane living standards without getting nuked. well done!

[rugged cove]

okay....so the point all of this is...if ur country want safed. make a nucklear waepon.

[quasi needle]

yes

[rugged cove]

well done

[quasi needle]

you are extremely uneducated on the topic

[molten magnet]

There is only one civilization in the world, more than one culture. The civilization is Western civilization, which is based on reason and science, while the East is based on traditions. The roots of Western civilization come from Islam and ancient Greek civilizations.

[quasi needle]

please do some research

[molten magnet]

I said benevolent dicatators are pro westerns

[rugged cove]

i thing the PBB must gibe annocement for give permision to all country make nucklear waepon...so US cant attack them.

[feral river]

wtf are you guys talking about

[quasi needle]

i love greek mythology and philosophy

[molten magnet]

me too

[quasi needle]

do some research so you aren’t so heavily impressed by propagandist views

[rugged cove]

u change it with zero meaning thing...ur point nothingless

[quasi needle]

that made zero sense

i am finding it very difficult to understand what you’re saying

[molten magnet]

If Muslim majority countries want to develop, they will not mix their traditions with politics even in the slightest

[feral river]

not really I ever been to North Korea I think Taliban afganistan even worse

[rugged cove]

awake bro... u got brainwashed

[quasi needle]

it’s at the bottom the rankings

[quasi needle]

LOL! funny one

[manic juniper]

No... The Kuomintang of Taiwan was evil as fuck, it only made the country progress economically but the people there were oppressed and they were forced to dismantle the dictatorship

You can make economic progresses and still be a huge POS

[feral river]

actually after the Kim Jong Un succeeded the power, the economy situation of North Korea were improved heavily

they don't need to worry about famine anymore, there's full of stuff inside of stores and marts

[molten magnet]

Dictatorship is a phase, a take-off phase for the country, after a phase the middle class becomes stronger and starts to demand democracy, like South Korea

[rugged cove]

that why communist is ideology...but that not make the people become got press by goverment or make them life worst like owen said

[manic juniper]

no it's possible to avoid it completely like Sweden did

[feral river]

North Korea isn't communist

LOL

[frosty agate]

Hey am new here need more friends

[quasi needle]

it is

[feral river]

they are practicing Juche ideology which is a complexity between Nationalism and Marxism-Leninism\

[manic juniper]

It's Juche, it's somewhat Marxist-Leninist but not really communist

[feral river]

it's a variant to Stalinism

that's not communist at all

[rugged cove]

haaaa...i will give u the article then

[molten magnet]

Is it possible for a country like in Asia or the Middle East or Africa to do like Sweden?

[quasi needle]

it nominally upholds communism

[manic juniper]

Yes, I don't see why not, Burkina-Faso had potential before the coup

[rugged cove]

@feral river https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Korea

[manic juniper]

Or even Chile before the coup

[rugged cove]

why so many peole say something without data

[quasi needle]

but that is an inherent flaw in dictatorships

[molten magnet]

For most countries, progress does not come from the people but from above, from a progressive leader.

[rugged cove]

owen and then that guys

[quasi needle]

coups

[quasi needle]

you are the one that is disregarding the facts lmfao

[manic juniper]

It wasn't a dictatorship, the dictatorship was installed after the coup

[rugged cove]

dictator is fasis

different than communist

[manic juniper]

The Chileans voted a socialist government and then armed forces sponsored by USA destroyed their socialist government, that's where Pinochet comes into play

[molten magnet]

Our founding father Atatürk may have done wrong things but it was necessary.

[quasi needle]

yes that’s what i sort of mean

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

read this carefully with your brain

[quasi needle]

dictatorships are rarely wanted by the people

[feral river]

not really lol

[quasi needle]

rarely

[manic juniper]

Most of the times they exist because people don't know better

[quasi needle]

they’re wanted sometimes

[chrome creek]

Hi

[quasi needle]

not all the time or most of the time

[manic juniper]

In the case of Chileans they didn't want one but they had no power against Pinochet

[molten magnet]

I know that the Chilean miracle was after the coup, correct me if I'm wronger

[feral river]

nope I think people don't give a shit to democracy or authoritarian if they are having a good life

[manic juniper]

Economic miracle, but the people lived horrible lives and plenty disappeared for seemingly no reason

[chrome creek]

Can I know what the issue u discuss about?

[molten magnet]

look there is no system is perfect or ideal

[quasi needle]

yes but MOST dictatorships do not give a good life. the only ones in the modern world off the top of my head that do that are china and MAYBE russia

[rugged cove]

@feral river this involves the development of a state capitalist economy with state-directed capital accumulation with the long-term goal of building up the country's productive forces while simultaneously promoting world communism.

[molten magnet]

But Chile is much better under capitalism than before.

[manic juniper]

Before the coup there was potential, they were the first country to use advanced computing to predict economic events and prevent losses

[rugged cove]

that i got on ur link

[quasi needle]

very true, i know someone who lives there

[rugged cove]

read it before said without empty brain

[quasi needle]

all you do is namecall when you’re proven wrong

[manic juniper]

I don't think the people enjoyed capitalism much, they are enjoying the fact that the dictatorship gradually disappeared because it didn't want to face consequences and trial

[feral river]

read it again

[molten magnet]

Argentina Look Populist Socialists Turned Money Into Shit. Now Millei Is Lowering Inflation Andhousing Prices

[rugged cove]

promotng world communism. the point cant u seeM

[molten magnet]

whicj country do you live?

[rugged cove]

@feral river oh my...so hard make them awake after got brainwashed

[manic juniper]

Finland

[quasi needle]

you are a fool

grow up

[feral river]

you freaking brainwashed as what you don't even what the fuck are you talking about

you don't even know what the fuck are you talking about

@rugged cove

don't get so silly and go read something

[rugged cove]

haaaaah...i surend with it...the filosofer from islam said, i can debate with thousand smart person but i will surend with one stupid rock head.

[quasi needle]

you are the “rock head”

[feral river]

there's a difference between dictatorship and authoritarian rule, China or Russia is not a dictatorship

[rugged cove]

haaaah....the rock head is u both

[molten magnet]

Capitalism is sometimes bitter prescription, people don't want it, but it brings progress

[rugged cove]

same with vietnam bastard...but why US attack vietnam but not china and russia

[manic juniper]

It's only creating stagnation and inefficiency here, it's only better than feudalism and mercantilism because they're older systems

[molten magnet]

Yes, your country developed with capitalism, but a more tamed version of it.

[quasi needle]

it is. china has one person on the ballot for leader of the ccp, xi jinping. russia rigs their elections to force one person into power, vladimir putin

they publicly preach democratic elections, but they have predetermined rulers

[manic juniper]

Because USA was an ally of China for most of the time

[molten magnet]

Why doesn't your government move to full socialism?

[manic juniper]

It was a compromise between communists and their ideas and monarchists

[feral river]

so what ? you mean a state having a leader is dictatorship ? what about US president sleepy Joe ?

he's a leader too, with actual power

[manic juniper]

People wouldn't vote that, it could only happen democratically

[quasi needle]

a state having a predetermined solidified authoritarian ruler is a dictatorship

[rugged cove]

the true point is cause china,russia,north korea have a nucklear weapon.

[manic juniper]

Bruh, China didn't have nuclear weapons before

[quasi needle]

but the elections give the allure of choice, and actually provide choice

russia and china act like the voters have a choice, when they do not

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship

[manic juniper]

Countries aren't eternal enemies that can't change, or we'd all hate Germany nowadays

[molten magnet]

Even Sweden is struggling with its aging population. Social welfare programs may be fun, but they are not sustainable.

[quasi needle]

xi jinping and putin do not have limitations

[feral river]

that's different from your definition of distributive of power and elect progress of a leader

[sullen epoch]

reduced erectile dysfunction in the USA 🕊️🕊️🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷

[feral river]

it's not the same thing

[rugged cove]

vietnam-US end on 1975....china make a nucklear weapon on 1963

[quasi needle]

the chinese secretary of defense disappeared and was replaced without a word, that is without limitations

[manic juniper]

This is happening because they have a neoliberal government since the 80s, the issue started appearing since the 90s already. The social welfare is what made our countries progress in the first place, and its degradation coincides with our decline too

[molten magnet]

Without capitalism and trade with the world, Finland wouldn't be Finland.

[feral river]

you wanna say oh they don't need to go through with a western election system and they have power so they are dictatorships

that was a bullshit

[manic juniper]

That's not unique to capitalism, do you think Romans weren't able to trade with Indians?

[feral river]

that's not how dictatorship works

[quasi needle]

they are dictatorships because they are not democratically voted in. they are dictators because they are making themselves the ruler by bending the laws to keep themselves in power

where are the checks and balances on them

[molten magnet]

I don't defend neo lib either but they may have valid points

[quasi needle]

if they are not dictators, where are the checks and balances that make them grounded

[feral river]

how ? we got in party democracy, if they don't any support why would they came to power ?

I don't see Chinese leader or Russian leader is in power by coup

[sullen epoch]

INDIA NUMBER ONE !! 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[quasi needle]

there is 1 person on the ballot to become the ccp leader

[feral river]

who told you this ?

[manic juniper]

Clearly they don't since that's degrading our countries and making it increasingly more difficult to afford housing and have a family

[quasi needle]

the facts

[molten magnet]

would clearly harm your businesst

[feral river]

facts of what ?

[quasi needle]

i got it from medhi hassan

[rugged cove]

@manic juniper China conducted its first nuclear test, code-named 596, on 16 October 1964. Its first thermonuclear weapon test occurred on December 28, 1966.

The Vietnam War was a conflict in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955 to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975

[sullen epoch]

the chinese province of taipei...

[manic juniper]

What? Romans traded with everyone since 100 BCE already

[rugged cove]

that prove...the US only attack country without nucklear

[feral river]

facts of you only know who Xi jinping is, and you don't know what is People's Congress, you don't know what is Politburo of the Central Committe of the CCP

[molten magnet]

I believe in the right balance between socialism and capitalism. Both have some benefits and balance each other out.

[molten magnet]

the area and time is very different

[feral river]

do I really need to state a bunch of stuff to tell that he need support to be in power ?

[manic juniper]

Do you realise that Cambodia was supported both by USA and China? The world isn't like chess where you pick the black or the white side

[manic juniper]

Trading wasn't invented by capitalism

There are Roman coins in India and in Finland, two places that the Roman Empire never approached

[rugged cove]

yes sister....i only want prove my statment of, the US roof of chaostic in this world cause them always attack other country.

[molten magnet]

As the aging population puts a strain on the retirement system and healthcare system, we will have to move more towards capitalism, raise the working age or emigrate

[rugged cove]

@quasi needle he have head rock for undertand simple thing

[quasi needle]

“Xi Jinping is expected to remain the only candidate for leadership of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in the immediate future, as he has consolidated significant power within the party. In 2018, China’s constitution was amended to remove presidential term limits, effectively allowing Xi to stay in power indefinitely. He currently holds key roles, including General Secretary of the CCP, President of China, and Chairman of the Central Military Commission. Given this centralization of power, there has been little indication of any competitive challenge to his leadership.

Other senior party figures, like Li Qiang and Ding Xuexiang, hold important roles and influence within the party, but there is no indication that they are challenging Xi’s leadership at this point. Instead, they are seen as loyalists within his inner circle.”

[quasi needle]

you are a moron. grow up

[manic juniper]

You could say the same about Cuba and the USSR, getting involved in other countries is not unique to USA. Nowadays you have Russia in Syria, Ukraine and Georgia

Saying USA is the root of all of this is too simplistic

Are they involved in a lot of shit? Yes. Are they the cause of all of it? No, that's comedic

[sullen epoch]

the world would end without India

it is too awesome

[rugged cove]

yes...u right

[molten magnet]

deng xiaoping read china china man close historical examples tell me that we can't live in prosperity under full socialism. finns are aware of this too, that's why no one would ever vote for full socialism

[manic juniper]

Or maybe you can nationalise housing and let people live their lives and build their families

Instead of having them live with their parents until their 30s

Make people less dependant on cars so they don't have to spend even more money to afford to maintain a vehicle, and they can sustain their children and hobbies

[molten magnet]

not nationalize housing nationalize lands.

[manic juniper]

No the land should be owned by those that use it

[rugged cove]

but owen still stupid head rock

[molten magnet]

DOES ANYONE IN THIS GROUP KNOW ABOUT GEORGISm

[quasi needle]

yap yap

[quasi needle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/710199911127187519/1277041615168606348/caption.gif

[manic juniper]

If you're not productive with your land you shouldn't own it, but you still have the right of passage there

[quasi needle]

@sullen epoch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170166681285447701/1249124126984245370/caption.gif

[molten magnet]

The supply of land is limited and the demand constantly increases, which is why housing is expensive in metropolises like London. Because most of the housing prices come from the increase in land values.

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

[rugged cove]

@manic juniper what u thing,sister.maybe for make the world safe. what u thing?

[molten magnet]

When I say nationalize the land, I do not mean that it will become state property. Taking 100 percent of the land rental value as a land value tax that would make the land an unprofitable investment vehicle.

[manic juniper]

A confederation built similarly to the EU should slowly engulf the entire world until everyone lives in the same country with the same rights and bilateral trade and no reasons to wage war

[rugged cove]

how about nucklear weapon...what supose to do with that?

[manic juniper]

In this scenario nuclear weapons aren't needed unless spacefaring aliens are confirmed to exist

[sullen epoch]

BY THE SUN'S RAYS! THE LORD OF TEN THOUSAND YEARS HAS RETURNED !!

[molten magnet]

If someone encloses a piece of land that he did not create, restricts people from passing through it, and expects everyone to respect it, he should pay land value tax.

[sullen epoch]

🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[manic juniper]

In that case we need to build interplanetary nuclear warheads

[sullen epoch]

🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[quasi needle]

MAY THE LORDS OF THE SKY BLESS THE DRAGON EMPEROR FOR TEN THOUSAND MORE TO COME !!

[sullen epoch]

MAY THE HARVEST BE PLENTIFUL FOR ANOTHER MILLENNIA

[rugged cove]

i meant...some people or country can break the rules...are u have policy or something to hold that thing?

[quasi needle]

MAY OUR LIVES BE BOUNTIFUL BY THE HAND OF HIS EXCELLENCY!!

[molten magnet]

China, Singapore Hong Kong and Taiwan also Estonia used land revenues to finance public is the most efficient tax

[manic juniper]

There will only be one country, they can't really break rules

[quasi needle]

not happening

well by that i mean NEVER happening

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/siiuu-ronaldo-gif-23762682

[quasi needle]

unless you eradicate all culture

[sullen epoch]

GLORY TO THE LAND WHERE THE SUN NEVER SETS! THE GODS HAVE PROMISED US TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT BEYOND OUR WILDEST DREAMS!

[manic juniper]

Culture has nothing to do with it, European countries have vastly different cultures, a federal country is possible

[quasi needle]

it is not vastly different

[rugged cove]

i meant... the politican can take a some military thing without whole goverment know?

[quasi needle]

in the modern age they are extremely neutered

[sullen epoch]

is this like christian propaganda

[quasi needle]

and old cultures are disappearing

[dense agate]

except civil wars can happen for the silliest reasons

[quasi needle]

wait

[sullen epoch]

NEW WORLD ORDER ALERT ❗❗

[quasi needle]

i know what would fix the world

[rugged cove]

i say to u...owen is stupid person who crave to propaganda a lot.

[manic juniper]

That's just globalisation but the core isn't disappearing any soon, the same amount of people speak the languages

[quasi needle]

The Vilexian Empire

[sullen epoch]

fax

[manic juniper]

Why would they

[sullen epoch]

he is a total idiot and doesn't see what a wonderful place INDIA is

[quasi needle]

i love propaganda. you know what i love more? you… let’s hook up

[manic juniper]

If everyone is happy why would they risk it all in a civil war

[molten magnet]

Minimize zoning laws (for safety reasons only) impose land tax ban air bnb impose a tax on portfolios investing in real estate impose an additional tax on multiple home ownership impose a tax on homeowners who keep their homes vacant. solve the housing crisis

[rugged cove]

u love me?but i hate u so much

[quasi needle]

let’s kiss…

[sullen epoch]

@rugged cove what do you think of india's power today

[quasi needle]

mwah mwah mwah… 💋

[rugged cove]

of course....fyi, i am paskitani

[quasi needle]

paskitani

paskitan my favorite country

[sullen epoch]

😡 🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡

INDIA NUMBER ONE !!! 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[smoky pagoda]

Reference and evidence please I can show you the reference non Muslims giving money 💵 to Muslims to leave Islam written in the Quran

[dense agate]

ethic/religious tensions, grievences, secessionist nationalism,...

[quasi needle]

GLORY BE FROM THE THIRTY THREE LORDS OF THE SKY TO INDIA ON EARTH!!

[hybrid siren]

there is nothing to be proud about your country's power tbh. your country literally has 1B+ population

[smoky pagoda]

I'm from Pakistan 🇵🇰

[sullen epoch]

good statistics

[smoky pagoda]

[quasi needle]

but did the 33 deities bless your land?

@sullen epoch those who don’t know….

[sullen epoch]

🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳❗❗❗❗❗

[manic juniper]

It's possible to fix most of these except religious tensions, I don't think Poles have that much hostility towards Germans yet few generations ago they were being killed in the millions

[sullen epoch]

he doesn't know about our economic boom

our blessing from the gods

[quasi needle]

the 33 lords of the sky

[manic juniper]

As for religious tensions you simply educate people more on their own religions, they will realise how they don't make any sense

[quasi needle]

the 33 hindu deities

[hybrid siren]

you can't compare to a country with 1/10 population of india's

[sullen epoch]

of course I can. they're right next to us.

[smoky pagoda]

That's lie BTW not true

[quasi needle]

GLORY BE!! FOR THE HIGH LORDS OF THE SKY WILL STRIKE DOWN THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE IN INDIA!

[hybrid siren]

this is ridiculous

[quasi needle]

You are nothing.

[sullen epoch]

❗❗❗

[quasi needle]

India will strike you down with haste. Count your days.

[sullen epoch]

shiva will strike you down

[hybrid siren]

Amen!

[sullen epoch]

with a thousand year war

[hybrid siren]

Excited for that!

[sullen epoch]

you should be. the world will PROSPER under INDIAN RULE!!!

[quasi needle]

THOU SHALL REPENT!! FOR THE RAPTURE IS COMING!!

[sullen epoch]

🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[rugged cove]

shiva versus biden...who u voted @quasi needle

[quasi needle]

USA #1

[thorny steeple]

so there are 2.8 billion

[manic juniper]

Biden is more powerful, he protects horseshoe crabs

[smoky pagoda]

What?

[quasi needle]

Joe Biden will fix this planet.

[quasi needle]

god bless joe biden

god bless joe bidet

[smoky pagoda]

Am I killing you? I'm a Muslim you're not for example like am I killing no obviously lol

[sullen epoch]

GLORY TO THE UNITED KINGDOM

[thorny steeple]

@quasi needle bro you were one of the extinct species right?

[rugged cove]

@sullen epoch

[smoky pagoda]

[ashen mortar]

god blesss americaaaaaa and all american immigrants

[quasi needle]

God Bless India.

[sullen epoch]

THEY MADE INDIA THE GLORIOUS NATION IT IS TODAY

[thorny steeple]

GLORY TO ME

[smoky pagoda]

This sounds 🆗

[thorny steeple]

GOD BLESS ME 😭

[dense agate]

it's really something that EU countries moved on with Germany's past actions, but when it comes to Japan there is still some resentment towards them from Koreans and Chinese.

[quasi needle]

PREACH!

[smoky pagoda]

Ameen

[dense agate]

kinda gives me flashback to that ww2 japanese baby stick

[sullen epoch]

@quasi needle this is not true, shiva will with a ten thousand year war.

ending in indian domination

[thorny steeple]

i couldn't understand anything

[rugged cove]

shiva versus biden with nucklear....who win? @quasi needle and what the reason behind.

[quasi needle]

May Rama cast a season of pain to those who defame our Glorious nation.

[thorny steeple]

You want to kill me

[smoky pagoda]

Just understand that what he said was wrong lol 😂 islam doesn't say to kill the disbelievers

[smoky pagoda]

No 💀

[quasi needle]

yes it does

stop lying it quite literally says to do it

[sullen epoch]

the great flood will return, hitting every nation but India. Leaving them open to conquest.

[thorny steeple]

🦉 okay

[quasi needle]

India will form the New Indian Order.

[smoky pagoda]

💀 Why there are some many disbeliever in this world exactly?

💀

[manic juniper]

I don't know, I have to check if younger Koreans still have resentment towards Japan, I live in Japan and have some Korean coworkers, they like this country (with all its flaws) more than I do and same for its people

[sullen epoch]

super INDIAN earth

[dense agate]

Islam when a muslim wants to leave the group :

[sullen epoch]

wrong reply

[quasi needle]

because people made non violent interpretations of the text

[manic juniper]

It's possible to rehabilitate everyone if we rehabilitated Germany to how it is today

[thorny steeple]

Where there will be no tests

[smoky pagoda]

Which is the correct one 1⃣

[quasi needle]

those who take it literally are the terrorists

[rugged cove]

pakistan will beat u up.

[smoky pagoda]

[quasi needle]

LIE!!!!!!

[sullen epoch]

❗❗

[smoky pagoda]

Yes they take it out of context

[quasi needle]

FOR THE DRAGON EMPEROR!

[sullen epoch]

PAKISTAN ZERO!

[manic juniper]

Even to this day we didn't really rehabilitate UK for Ireland and there is some dislike but I doubt Irish people would randomly cause riots in UK because of the famine that happened

[sullen epoch]

PAKISTAN NO GOOD!!!!!!!!

PAKISTAN ENEMY OF THE GLORIOUS NATION OF INDIA!!!

[thorny steeple]

that's the blessing of Hitler even though he was cruel he was a smart business man
Volkswagen for eg ☠️

[smoky pagoda]

[rugged cove]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-13013511562086382195

[sullen epoch]

PAKISTAN EMPTY NATION WITH LACKING PROGRESS!!!

[smoky pagoda]

I'm Pakistani but I don't care what you are saying

[rugged cove]

and pakistan will dance after take a india country

[manic juniper]

There are Bosniaks that work in Croatia, some of them have literally been kicked out of Croatia a generation ago, no issues whatsoever

[quasi needle]

they dislike the uk as a concept because of its past but any rational person would understand the people that caused the famine are all dead and the current uk is a different uk

[sullen epoch]

CANNOT COMPARE TO INDIA!!!!!!! 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-silly-dance-dancing-gif-15214503

[smoky pagoda]

You saying 2+2=5 won't make it true

[thorny steeple]

what's happening here

[manic juniper]

Yes, in this ideal future world UK would be nothing more than an historical region

[thorny steeple]

Oh shit i didn't recognise it's serious chat
I thought it was general chat ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[quasi needle]

in the ideal future the empire will return

[manic juniper]

Maybe a larger group but still inferior to the larger world confederation

[sullen epoch]

i never say 2+2=5 only that india is the best

which is true

[quasi needle]

the uk retains soft power, which is largely unspoken of

[rugged cove]

ideal future is india lead the world for attack thanos.

[smoky pagoda]

Yes exactly my point proved you defining something that doesn't mean it's true

[quasi needle]

kiss me

[thorny steeple]

@sullen epoch @quasi needle where are you both from 😭 if India then why native?

[smoky pagoda]

Ogay

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

Oggie

[quasi needle]

he’s from the Lands of Glory and i’m from england

[smoky pagoda]

[sullen epoch]

but it is true

[thorny steeple]

Lands of glory??????

[quasi needle]

India.

[thorny steeple]

India

[manic juniper]

And honestly I've seen anti-nationalists from Serbia, the most nationalistic country in Europe. If they exist there in significant numbers I don't see why the world can't be improved to look past superficial differences such as the language you speak or which of the 3066 deities you believe in

[quasi needle]

he’s actually irish and i hate him

[thorny steeple]

I am in this campaign too

[thorny steeple]

Irish accent 🦅

[sullen epoch]

now i can't pretend to be an indian nationalist

[quasi needle]

i meant Western India

[thorny steeple]

[sullen epoch]

cover blown

[manic juniper]

Heck people of the same nationality fight like wolverines over football matches

[quasi needle]

what indian is a native english speaker

[thorny steeple]

I am out

[sullen epoch]

all of them fool

[quasi needle]

manar aktuun

[thorny steeple]

American Indian

[sullen epoch]

every Indian has at least 200 iq

[quasi needle]

manraj singh

[thorny steeple]

Bro a racist ☠️

[quasi needle]

glory be to india

[sullen epoch]

racist against the british

[rugged cove]

india will call the shiva...them will lead us to fight with thanos and Kang The Conqueror

[thorny steeple]

they show love

[thorny steeple]

Who are you now?

[sullen epoch]

TRUE ❗❗

[thorny steeple]

Nuke Nuke Nuke

This chat

people here are nuts

[sullen epoch]

@quasi needle what's the piece of land in india they fight over

[manic juniper]

Kashmir

[quasi needle]

the fortnite island

[sullen epoch]

india makes its STAND HERE ❗❗

[dense agate]

but they'd probably have some resentment albeit really subtle, though i'm sure there still are tensions around northern Ireland especially with Brexit. it's really insane how much shit they've gone through thanks to the UK, so i'm sure there'll always be an Irish or 2 willing to turn their Honda Civic to large fireworks

[sullen epoch]

tilted towers is indias and loot lake is pakistans

[manic juniper]

Those terrorists also exist for political reasons, there wouldn't be any reason to become one if your people aren't oppressed and live in the same country without any block of sorts

[thorny steeple]

[dense agate]

el salvador and honduras be like

[manic juniper]

Italy has GTA lobbies irl on random highways between Rome and Naples

Huge fights with weapons between ultras, some of them set buses on fire while they're moving turning the landscape into a Twisted Metal hellhole

[thorny steeple]

Asian turkiye and European turkiye

[smoky pagoda]

[dense agate]

we're stepping into helldivers territory now

i see English fans involved in many of these kind of fights, the Euro 2024 with the serbs was the latest one

so basically GTA 4 kinda vibe

[manic juniper]

Ultras are the problem, and sometimes the solution like in Ukraine

[feral river]

Ur new profile is just damn hot

It just overthrown the vibe of your aura when you are just here in before

[feral river]

I love it honest to say

[thorny steeple]

You look more beautiful now

Before you were less beautiful
||Makeup||

[feral river]

I just wonder why they are not a state like North Korea

Their great Serbian state collapsed along with the Soviets

[balmy matrix]

fr china is much better lol

[thorny steeple]

why not

[thorny steeple]

🐴meh

USA is best

[balmy matrix]

freedom

🦅

[thorny steeple]

🦅🦅🦅

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/usa-america-united-states-united-states-of-america-us-gif-17391099274068274210

[thorny steeple]

The fck when china came near to US

[balmy matrix]

why blud loves india that much

[thorny steeple]

We need some 🦅in the air

[balmy matrix]

you're already are

[jolly agate]

India doesn’t produces world class athletes

[balmy matrix]

an eagle

[jolly agate]

It’s only good in some sports

[balmy matrix]

USA doesn't either lol

all athletes are afro-american

[thorny steeple]

🦅🦅🦅🦅

[jolly agate]

they wouldn’t have got 40 gold otherwise

[thorny steeple]

Bro they rizzed in chess 😭
But fcked in Olympics

[jolly agate]

.

[balmy matrix]

i just said why

[jolly agate]

they different but they are necessary

[dapper laurel]

It's a problem of sports infrastructure, unfortunately they lack it, even if there are talents on their soil, well, they will always remain hidden

[hybrid junco]

[ashen mortar]

[feral river]

no idea on India

my only memory about India is the Sino-indian war and they were being ass kicked

[dapper laurel]

They had a disorganized army

Actually only the Indo-Europeans are good at waging war, but they are the exception

[copper canopy]

Chill

[rose eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPosAvaM4R8&t=3391s

[rose eagle]

Vietnam during US embargo

[latent hatch]

Hello guys

[thorny steeple]

What up ?

[feral river]

they only got 1/3 of our territory area with a continuous conflict with Pakistan while stationed their army nearby our border and wanted to strengthen its military presence in the South Tibet

[lament forge]

This is serious chat 😭

[feral river]

internally they have some problem caused by democracy, regionalism, unorganized state resources, conflict between ethnic groups which we solved perfectly

well their only advantage over us is probably cheap labor, the price in pace with the economy development which spontaneously increasing by the labor cost

and what we are doing is invest some land that could never challenge our dominance, Africa

we are paving the way to being a superpower.

when our leader facing literally no opposition internally and developing with any measures possible without burden of moral or being regulated by some toilet paper (international treaties) solving the economy problem, what they are doing is struggle to transform their state to an ethnic state for hindis while unable to consolidate the power of the central government and talk about some shit like how we they going to surpass us

[balmy matrix]

Erm

[feral river]

what I'm regarding is not a set of gap between us, but something impossible to achieve for them to compare with us

[balmy matrix]

What the yapp

[lament forge]

This channel's not for you

You can't be serious

[balmy matrix]

Pro yappers

[lament forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-me-explaining-yapping-what-is-bro-yapping-about-gif-4331156902044955863

[toxic portal]

Hello

[real monolith]

Certified one

[nocturne sorrel]

:))))

Guys, do you find gapped text interesting ???

[rugged cove]

like what?

[rugged crag]

guys

[thorny steeple]

Compare to whom ?

[rugged crag]

how to contact a mdoerator?

[thorny steeple]

I don't know either

Sorry

[ashen mortar]

why?

[rugged crag]

F1 - Fluent is chaos and its gonna turn to a bullying

[thorny steeple]

What is that?

[rugged crag]

ahahaha a channel in the server

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[ashen mortar]

you can report that #🛂｜report-help go here

[tawny portal]

Hello everyone. What do you think about the films Pirates of the Caribbean?

[thorny steeple]

I haven't watched it

So no idea

[rugged cove]

jhonny deep so good as well

[tawny portal]

I really recommend to watch the first three movies

[thorny steeple]

What is good in that movie?

[tawny portal]

Yes, he is. But my favourite character is Barbosa

[rugged cove]

ugh...ur taste disgust

[thorny steeple]

I still wonder about his ex

Dog stepped on a bee

[rugged cove]

oh...the princess of aquaman

[thorny steeple]

Dog stepped on a bee

[tawny portal]

It is a such great adventure movie. Music by Hanz Zimmer. Ship battle.

[thorny steeple]

What movie?

[thorny steeple]

[feral river]

do you wanna be a pirate after seeing this movie

[amber zodiac]

The first trilogy? Dope!

[prisma cipher]

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/captainphillips-barkhad-abdi-gif-4254004

Modern pirate look like this tho

[noble niche]

Was a good movie.

2014? I guess.

[prisma cipher]

No idea

[noble niche]

The name of the movie was captain Philips.

The gif you posted.

[prisma cipher]

I watched this movie

It was meh. Not bad not good, meh

[manic juniper]

I will be 鄭氏

[noble niche]

Perhabs. I liked it.

[feral river]

I don't even know what is 鄭氏

LOL

[noble niche]

The end was a shame....

All three died.

[prisma cipher]

@noble niche the characters, the Somali pirates, looked very natural

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Yi_Sao

[feral river]

what the....

[manic juniper]

You did not know her...?

[feral river]

yeah, first I ever heard we got a famous pirate

btw 鄭氏 is not her name it's like Family Zheng/wife of Zheng

[manic juniper]

She had the largest fleet (around 400) and a ridiculous amount of men, between 40k and 60k

[feral river]

she's name is Zheng yi sao

[manic juniper]

The one I used is her pirate name

Like Blackbeard that isn't his real name but people use it

[feral river]

if she's the head of the navy in Qing Empire, she gonna kick the british ass back to their tiny britain

ah she's a cantonese well all make sense now

[manic juniper]

Why is that

[feral river]

like floridian

[manic juniper]

The catch with pirate fleets is that they're often made of fishing vessels, they're nimble but not very strong or don't even have firepower but they carry armed men around and can move their booty

[feral river]

there's nothing you can expect what they can have done

[manic juniper]

For example the closest pirate to her is Bartholomew Roberts, he also had a fleet of around 400 but they mostly were fishing vessels

However they both were very rich

[feral river]

we banned trade, they do trades, we banned drugs, they do drugs, we banned regional languages they speak cantonese

[manic juniper]

Lol isn't Cantonese the second most spoken language in China? It's impossible to make it unpopular

[feral river]

anyway just kidding they are just normal Chinese but their mind is much open than other mainlanders

[feral river]

well, only people in Guangdong, Guangxi, Hainan speaks Cantonese

and SARs

[manic juniper]

But they're many

[prisma cipher]

Do you heard about black samurai, I know it's Japanese stuff but stiil? 😆

[feral river]

Fujian people, which is quite closer to Guangdong and opposite from the sea with Taiwan, has the highest record of immigration to USA

[feral river]

well about Japanese I would say I just watch anime stuff

[prisma cipher]

@feral river I mean Ubisoft make new assasins game with black samurai in it.

[feral river]

yeah they can speak that anyway we even listed Cantonese as national protected legal languages which is a non-material cultural heritage of China

[feral river]

that's a shit

black samurai ? are they out of their mind ?

who the hell will pay that piece of shit

what the heck man

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/assassin's-creed-shadows-yasuke-yasuke-the-black-samurai-samurai-wink-gif-14135534519656127560

[feral river]

that's not fucking Japanese at all

that's a piece of shit

not surprised they are broke ass

[vagrant lark]

its preeeaiity bad

[manic juniper]

It existed for real

[prisma cipher]

It existed like a joje

Joke

[floral spindle]

i will pay and play

[floral spindle]

don't judge it by black protagonist

[feral river]

Nah I just think it’s terrible they got a black samurai

As protagonist

Oh shit can something more terrible than this ?

[manic juniper]

Is he the protagonist? I thought he was just an important character

[floral spindle]

what black people can't become protagonist

[prisma cipher]

Why not

[floral spindle]

yeap 2 protagonist one would be male and other would be female

[feral river]

I won’t judge if that’s a black gangster or a normal black

But a black samurai represents the Japanese cultural sphere

Japanese cultural sphere doesn’t have some bullshit diversity and multiculturalism

Even in that game, their background is still in Japan

How does that on earth make sense besides for their own shit of political correctness to make uncomfortable for people who have common sense of a normal identity ?

I bet this will be ended up with a dozens of negative reviews

At least I will be one.

There’s no freaking racism in an ethnic state

[prisma cipher]

I'm sure that Assassin will have a lot of negative reviews, and will also sell very well, because it's Assassin

[floral spindle]

you are right

[floral spindle]

but there is beautiful ghost of tsushima maybe ubisoft do not want people say copy of ghost of tsushima maybe that's why they make black protagonist

[thorny steeple]

hi chat

[loud dagger]

Scam?

I can smell it

Yep

[prisma cipher]

[loud dagger]

Almost same type of messages. They mention something exclusive like it is secret. Or they tell you to hurry up or it will have consequences.
We get a lot of those on our work places.

If someone sends you links to open then look for "s" in "https" s stands for secure.

There are more examples but this is very obvious about links

[slender coral]

I wonder whether the reason that makes Hindus hate Muslims so much is purely political and historical or has a religious aspect to it?

[dreamy venture]

U think Hindus opinions matters for muslims?

[slender coral]

No. I just want to understand where they come from.

[dreamy venture]

I think its hate because muslims don’t live like Hindus

I dont know much about Hindus, for example they street food

It’s one of the most dangerous food in whole world

And for example Muslim meat obligation

Its make it very safety food

And because of the big differences, they don't like them

[devout shale]

Buy my book, I'll explain it to you

It costs just 99$

[pale crater]

okay

[hard widget]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-jbtzxclsv-take-al-lost-loser-gif-14425635

[whole beacon]

@timber coral this is not a bloody space for personal /nationalistic propagandas. It ain't fox news. Stop spamming or face consequences

[dreamy venture]

Nabi

Whats mean “ain’t”?

[devout shale]

I'm not/I've not

[whole beacon]

It differs

Here it means, its not

[worn bolt]

👀

[lament forge]

👁👄👁

[glad patio]

👁👃👁

[thorny steeple]

👁️ 👁️

[feral river]

one major reason is because of their rivalry status on geopolitical situation, political representatives and rivalry state of Pakistan, back into the British rule, this place used to be their homes together as a one single state, but Britain determined to have a partition over this region, the British Raj were divided into 3 new born states, Myanmar, India and Pakistan, Myanmar is a special administration entity under the British Raj whereas India and Pakistan were jointed under British Administration, and after the partition, Pakistan represents the muslims, and they are a muslim state, but India is another state with hybrid of ethnicities which they have hindu as majority and muslims and other ethnicities as minorties

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[feral river]

simply to say, imagine they got a huge minority group that potentially influence people and threat the unity of the state for its rivals, that's why a hindu dominant government going to suppress them, if they don't that would be a huge deal to their enemy Pakistan to exploit their state.

[thorny steeple]

Isn't China divided with minorities too

[feral river]

not much as India do, and China is an ethnic state, which means we only recognized our people as Chinese not Han/Uyhgur/Hui

no matter what your races are, if you are holding Chinese citizenship, you are Chinese nationals

so basically there's no anyone in China is not a Chinese everyone is equal overall if some certain groups don't do something crazy

India is just like a federation between regional states and ethnic groups

[thorny steeple]

Okey

So no civil wars happening soon

[feral river]

not a chance under CCP's rule they focusing on unity than almost every country on earth, besides North Korea

what our values are sovereignty, unity, common prosperity not democracy, freedom, and other stuff

[thorny steeple]

North Korea would have collapsed a long time ago

[feral river]

they will not collapse under Kim's rule, he's a smart guy who taking effort into both economy and military while focusing the further development of their state ideology

he strived a lot to improve their economic situation and he did it

[thorny steeple]

True

[thorny steeple]

Apart from totalitarianism

[feral river]

it's irrelevent overall totalitarianism is a structure of one state's political presentation not affect that much to economy

the quality of leader is affected to economy damn much no matter it's in totalitarian or democracy

[thorny steeple]

It does if the economics are flawed

[thorny steeple]

More like no free markets

[feral river]

they got a command economy they really don't need free market, they got free education, free medical services (their medical facility is poor), free housing, even free land for farmers

what else you are expecting from your life besides that if you are living in a past don't know what the heck is GTA5

for people who live in past I would say that's paradise

that's one reason their population is growing

while South Korea is like a dead hole because now I'm in South Korea

[thorny steeple]

True and a famine back in the 90s

[feral river]

that's because their boss is dead, Soviet Union and they don't have food reserve so famine happened

[thorny steeple]

It's actually GTA 6

[feral river]

now their boss is China and Russia, we will feed them they are our buffer state they can't die

[thorny steeple]

True but the Soviet Union contributed to north Korea

[thorny steeple]

Just let them die and reunifying that peninsula after 1945

[feral river]

not a chance we beat americans on the ground and force them to retreat to their line

we need North Korea to survive or let North Korea unify the entire peninsula

[rugged cove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

[thorny steeple]

We more like a stalemate

[thorny steeple]

Under free democratic korea

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[rugged cove]

@feral river china vs USA....what u thing win then?

@thorny steeple are u fine?

[thorny steeple]

USA

[thorny steeple]

What ?

[rugged cove]

@thorny steeple are u fine?

[thorny steeple]

I'm fine and you ?

Your pfp is scary

[rugged cove]

oh...this i like, the scary thing

[thorny steeple]

Are you fine ?

[lament forge]

What do we have here

[thorny steeple]

Usa vs China

[rugged cove]

fine

[lament forge]

Dayum

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[rugged cove]

i thing china win...cause them have cultivator

[thorny steeple]

.....

[rugged cove]

u dont know them are can flying with sword

[lament forge]

Everything's wrong in that sentence

[thorny steeple]

👁️ 👁️

[rugged cove]

chen bexiuan si number one

@thorny steeple where u from?

[proven lantern]

Hello. Im first visit this chat

[thorny steeple]

Why you after me ?

[thorny steeple]

Seriuos chat

[rugged cove]

china vs USA
who win?

[thorny steeple]

Good

[proven lantern]

I hope usa

[rugged cove]

explain then buddy

[proven lantern]

? I dont know what i must to say. It's only hope, not try

[rugged cove]

try it then

[thorny steeple]

Say you have no idea but hope for USA cause u like usa

[proven lantern]

I like USA because USA it is democracy and freedom.

[ashen mortar]

europian union bustand

[ashen mortar]

usa is dictatorship

[proven lantern]

Why

[thorny steeple]

He's messing with you

[feral river]

that belongs to Serbia

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-zedong-china-gif-20663734

[feral river]

Kosovo is a inalienable part of Serbia

🇷🇸

[thorny steeple]

True Siberia government

[thorny steeple]

@feral river

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-shelby-peaky-blinders-gif-19044952

[ashen mortar]

[proven lantern]

M. OK) i glad to read it. I thought what it is maby try. You see, if yours didn't knew, many peepole in russia living in lie and mistskes. They talking what dictatorschip has on evrywhere and belive in it. So on second i was scared when peepole in abroad write it i thought maby it is really try. Honedtly i filing a big shame for what many russians peepole dont understan what real worold is looks like in fact.

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[weary belfry]

Why did you include Russian ppl in ur message in the last sentence?

[thorny steeple]

Probably had to do with the topic maybe 🤔

[weary belfry]

A thought came to my mind but I hope it's not like that

Btw John @thorny steeple you were from USA, right?

[thorny steeple]

Since 2018 Been living in America

[weary belfry]

Im muslim

[thorny steeple]

Naturalized citizen

[weary belfry]

So you are from usa? Or just living there?

[thorny steeple]

Mashallah I'm atheist yet lean between atheism and Christianity

[thorny steeple]

No from there, but I got to be a naturalized citizen due to my grandfather

[weary belfry]

My knowledge of English is not enough to explain this, but if you know what it means, I would like you to explain it to me

[weary belfry]

Thanks. And that's good

[thorny steeple]

No problem inshallah

[weary belfry]

What do you mean by amulate Prophet Muhammad?

[weary belfry]

Oh, that's good. Can I ask where you are actually from?

If we put aside American citizenship

[weary belfry]

Mashallah. You know many Islamic words

[thorny steeple]

Just like normal person answer

[thorny steeple]

Dominican Republic Puerto Rican grandfather

[thorny steeple]

Keeping a eye into the Islamic community

[thorny steeple]

?def adultery

[cursive bobcat]

Word: adultery

Definition (noun): extramarital sex that willfully and maliciously interferes with marriage relations

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[thorny steeple]

Kekw

[weary belfry]

Goood

I'm saying that my knowledge of English is not enough to explain this

[thorny steeple]

Takes time

[weary belfry]

Ofc we take him as an example

[thorny steeple]

Ofc people always do

[weary belfry]

agreed

[dense agate]

not asmonbald

[weary belfry]

adultery is an extramarital affair

[thorny steeple]

XD

[weary belfry]

can i ask whats ur opinion abt this nobu?

right

[thorny steeple]

?def extramarital

[cursive bobcat]

Word: extramarital

Definition (adjective): characterized by adultery

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[weary belfry]

adultery is forbidden in Islam, anyone can change it

[thorny steeple]

?def forbidden

[cursive bobcat]

Word: forbidden

Definition (adjective): excluded from use or mention

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[weary belfry]

By that you mean that Prophet Muhammad decriminalized it?

[dense agate]

you be ignoring the dilemma-infected Christianity and going after other beliefs

[thorny steeple]

True

Christianity was less before 1054

[dense agate]

he probably was going to redirect it to something concerning pedophilia, classic move

[dense agate]

that's when the church split if im not mistaken

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[weary belfry]

it could be

[thorny steeple]

You never know, we humans always are so talkative

[weary belfry]

Agreed.

But I didn't understand why you said that last sentence

[thorny steeple]

Don't think too much about it

[weary belfry]

Hmmm, got it

[dense agate]

bro's being mysterious

[thorny steeple]

It takes a paragraph to explain mate

[loud dagger]

Trolling....

[dense agate]

they're getting spawn-camped

[weary belfry]

Immorality?

Where, when, what, wheres the proofs

Yes, its

[cunning moth]

/definition superior

/definition

[weary belfry]

You should write ?def

[cunning moth]

?superior

?def superior

[cursive bobcat]

Word: superior

Definition 1 (adjective): having a higher rank
Definition 2 (noun): a combatant who is able to defeat rivals
Definition 3 (noun): a character or symbol set or printed or written above and immediately to one side of another character

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by hiim00hiii

[cunning moth]

?def whimsical

[cursive bobcat]

Word: whimsical

Definition (adjective): determined by chance or impulse or whim rather than by necessity or reason

Definition requested by hiim00hiii

[weary belfry]

No, he didn't do that

[cunning moth]

?def analytical

[cursive bobcat]

Word: analytical

Definition 1 (adjective): of a proposition that is necessarily true independent of fact or experience
Definition 2 (adjective): using or skilled in using analysis (i.e., separating a whole--intellectual or substantial--into its elemental parts or basic principles)

Definition requested by hiim00hiii

[weary belfry]

Hey

Give me five min pls

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[weary belfry]

John lol

[thorny steeple]

We need context

[thorny steeple]

Yippee

[shy summit]

Perhaps we can spend our energy in a way other than trying to apply a twenty century old standard to the modern times?

[weary belfry]

"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you." What does this explain? Did the Prophet Muhammad do something that was forbidden?

[thorny steeple]

True

[shy summit]

The argument of child marriage is meaningless and a low bar. It was standard until very recently in human history.

Trying to act like only one people did it is very shallow

That’s. . . Not what that text says at all.

[thorny steeple]

How come it isn't

In islam

[shy summit]

The line you quoted just says the prophet is denying to himself what god has allowed to hin

[thorny steeple]

Tell me about it a section of it

[dense agate]

the fate of non-believers, predestination vs free will, doctrine of original sin...

[weary belfry]

No. It is not like that. The Messenger of Allah thought that having sexual intercourse was forbidden for him. Allah says why he made it forbidden for himself when it was made lawful for him. This is not adultery

[shy summit]

Which literally means he’s being stricter with himself than what god has allowed

[dense agate]

at the same time, Christianity is a the closest thing to an "arbitrary" religion, it can mean and adapt to whatever

[weary belfry]

I read. And it doesn't say with whom he had sex

[shy summit]

🤦‍♂️ The whole endgame of religion is a threat. “believe or be punished.” Which in politics generally means “Do as the religious leaders say or god will be mad with you.”

[cedar pulsar]

"except in Islamic marriage"?

[dense agate]

what happens to the people who die without ever hearing about christian gospel ?

[weary belfry]

That's enough religion from me

[shy summit]

Why don’t we discuss the issue concerning 6% of priests if this is the route we want to take?

[cedar pulsar]

i come here when i want a headache

[shy summit]

Seriously every faith has skeletons in its closet

[weary belfry]

lmfaoo 😭

[cedar pulsar]

Nale where are you from?

[shy summit]

No you just let them do that and don’t report it.

[cedar pulsar]

what hadith?

[thorny steeple]

Just think about it

[shy summit]

I have the link to the letters tucked away somewhere let me look

[thorny steeple]

?def Hadith

[cursive bobcat]

Word: Hadith

Definition 1 (noun): (Islam) the way of life prescribed as normative for Muslims on the basis of the teachings and practices of Muhammad and interpretations of the Koran
Definition 2 (noun): (Islam) a tradition based on reports of the sayings and activities of Muhammad and his companions

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[weary belfry]

Sir, There was no such information there. There was only the name of Aisha and one other person

Don't remember

[shy summit]

Bahumbug its a universal statistic don’t pull the sect card with me

[dense agate]

at any time, christian believes salvation is only through faith in jesus, but it never mentions what happens to those who died without ever hearing bout Christianity.
it's only late on that the Catholic church addressed this with a doctrine.

[weary belfry]

I started talking abt religion more than I ever have in my life tf. Enough I think

Ya, sir, sure

[shy summit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

Need I remind the chat that this is as fresh as 20 years ago when the entire system was hiding systemic abuse of children and women.

[ashen mortar]

Religion is biggest fraud in the human history

[thorny steeple]

True just don't get attached

[thorny steeple]

S

[weary belfry]

Where does it say?

[shy summit]

Trust me everyone gets their flowers from me, but as I say, “Equal Rights, Equal Fights,”

[dense agate]

are you sure about that ? and we have to keep in mind hearing about the existence of christianity is not knowing what Christianity is

[cedar pulsar]

they didnt even mention sex there

[shy summit]

Maybe all they know about christianity is the systemic abuse…. Or the political money laundering….

[weary belfry]

[cedar pulsar]

baby can you send the link

[shy summit]

Or maybe just maybe they might actually they’ve studied the actual history behind christianity and the roman empire

[weary belfry]

Sure bbg

[shy summit]

Or Serapis

You know the dude they copied to make Jesus?

Serapis

[cedar pulsar]

nope its not, they did not have sex its wrong

[shy summit]

They literally copied like five gods in making Jesus xD

Never-mind stealing the EXACT SAME healing miracles as Serapis who was known as the sacrificial bull

[weary belfry]

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959

[dense agate]

LEL according to Romans 1:18-20, even if people never heard about the Christian gospel they are still been held accountable.
apparently you're supposed to look at nature and derive from it that the father, the son and the holy spirit are god

[shy summit]

I mean you spend a lot of time chastising our Muslim peers, maybe its time we started dissecting the world’s oldest con

[thorny steeple]

Interesting 🤔

[dense agate]

"believe that god exists" yeah ? which one ?
a mulsim who never heard about Christianity can fit that criteria

[shy summit]

Its starting to feel like a grudge against a religion that is predominantly not white… maybe thats why Christians, who’re predominantly white got a problem with them?

Or maybe they’re scared that its the second largest faith

Either way you seem to have A LOT of not so nice things to say about them on that blog of yours in your bio

[dense agate]

it really goes without saying , that Abrahamic religions basically improve on each other, each trying to fill and fix the blank spots of the previous one

[shy summit]

Its all bogus in my book.

Not just the abrahamic faiths, all of it.

[shy summit]

Nevermind that science basically kills the historical claims of most of it.

Or that god doesn’t even pass a logic test

[thorny steeple]

Yep science and religion are always enemies

[dense agate]

it's problematic when people start claiming it's objectively true, incite intolerance, discrimination, violence...

[shy summit]

“No no no we have special rules just for god.”

Honey where sane people come from we call this bullshit

[dense agate]

they love to mention science when it corelates with their beliefs in the most ambiguous ways, yet completely refute it when it goes against it

[thorny steeple]

The fall of Islam could it happen?

[shy summit]

No but a basic poll does

[thorny steeple]

Indeed then what's the official source

[shy summit]

Deadass. Honey it means that christians are threatened by majority non-white cultural beliefs

[weary belfry]

The link to what you said

[thorny steeple]

True

[shy summit]

Thus that would explain the feverish push against islam

[thorny steeple]

The destruction of Islam

[shy summit]

Except literally every time its imposed by lawmakers, by christians OH and by the church itself

Dude

Its ALWAYS TRYING to impose itself on others

[weary belfry]

If you make a good comment about Islam, I will think, is the apocalypse coming

[dense agate]

again they can hear but not know their teachings, as i said before, Abrahamic religions do improve on each other, In Islam accountability is base on knowledge and goes beyond that those who heard about the message but were misled are granted mercy

[shy summit]

Look at the US for example, anti-abortion? Religious value leads the charge. Interracial marriage? Religious values led the charge? Same sex marriage same thing. Banning books? same thing.

[thorny steeple]

Islam is a religion of peace back in 632 they just expanded peacefully without bloodshed taking land freely

[weary belfry]

Nevermind

[shy summit]

You aren’t gonna deadass sit here and tell me religious institutions do not impose their values upon the greater society.

That’s beyond disingenuous

[balmy matrix]

bro fr talking to someone gay about religions 🙏🏻 💀

[thorny steeple]

They do since the beginning

[thorny steeple]

Dafuq

[balmy matrix]

fr bro

[shy summit]

In fact that was their original purpose.

[balmy matrix]

haven't seen such a waste of time like that

[thorny steeple]

In the Roman era Christianity was persecuted

[shy summit]

Oh don’t worry Mike I got enough smoke for everyone 👁️👄👁️

[dense agate]

wasn't christianity indifferent towards slavery as well, but they'll go on their way and a tell you eating shellfish is an abomination

[shy summit]

Actually they gave slaves bibles that omitted exodus

[dense agate]

they'd probably know as much as your average Christian knows about muslim teachings

[thorny steeple]

People

[balmy matrix]

what the sigma

[thorny steeple]

What religion do you follow

[shy summit]

A tool of fundamentalists to cling on to power by invoking tradition. It serves to maintain class systems like sex based power dynamics, and create caste systems

[thorny steeple]

Didn't India have caste systems?

[shy summit]

First of all I’m not Transgender

[thorny steeple]

No nothing crazy, or impossible

[shy summit]

Second even if I was, that has nothing to do with this conversation