🧠｜serious-chat

[prisma cipher]

I know Ivan Grozny 1

[pallid zealot]

Damn I know him because of FGO and natgeo

[dapper laurel]

The mythical emperor with delusions of omnipotence, also one of the first to kill Christians

[pallid zealot]

So true, that man was insane

Same for Ivan Grozny 😂

[dapper laurel]

But he also did good things, most of what was said about him was opposition propaganda

[pallid zealot]

The people need a scapegoat, so they choose Nero

[dapper laurel]

He distributed the goods to the people in an equitable way, this didn't please the senate

[pallid zealot]

The Senate holds too much power and unwise, they mostly corrupt

[dapper laurel]

The power of the Senate was gradually limited then, they did the best thing

[pallid zealot]

How about caligula, is he legit insane?

[rose eagle]

Are there many gangsters in China?

[feral river]

nah that's illegal in China

disturbing social order

[rose eagle]

Are there gangs of rebellious teenagers there who disrupt order?

[manic juniper]

The guy that nominated an horse as senator?

[terse prawn]

serious chat

[shy summit]

Population

[feral river]

nope they will immediately being get to the police office and if it's the first time or second time they got warned and next will be arrested

[rose eagle]

It seems that the Vietnamese police are still too lenient in dealing with teenage gangs

[rose eagle]

They are the ones who always make noise when organizing motorcycle races at night. They always want their Honda Wave to sound as loud as possible to look cooler.

Most of them are not yet old enough to ride motorcycles

And in addition, they also cause some tragic traffic accidents, imagine when you go out at night and get hit by a teenager riding a motorbike at the speed of light.

[feral river]

well motorcycle races are banned in my city

it's not a national ban but based on regions

[lavish creek]

🫡🫡

When will we start our invasion to Ethiopia

[dapper laurel]

In 2036

🤣

[rose eagle]

Are there more places to visit in Korea than in China? I am planning to go to China or Korea in the summer of 2025.

[feral river]

Ngl I’m not interested in Korea

And after came here it was expected

I don’t feel there’s something I like more than my home or other amazing countries like Japan or Singapore

If I left here I may never come back again

[stable eagle]

guys can i interview someone for school purposes only

[dense raven]

hiiii, can i interview someone? 😓😓

[rose eagle]

Yes

[pallid zealot]

Wait, best or worst?

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decommunization

@feral river for you mate

Mateusz Morawiecki https://g.co/kgs/qWUjcNZ

Read this dude's biography, dell into two different links and you will see

Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia https://g.co/kgs/GDjUort

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956

He (me) really takes serious chat serious

[pallid zealot]

Communism also staged a coup at my country, but i didn't know it was done by the communist or the rival powers of the government, the aftermath was disastrous, mostly because the communist phobia

You could read the G30S incident on Wikipedia

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[main bison]

hi mate

[cinder quartz]

huuhh

[thorny steeple]

Wsg

[thorny steeple]

Yes Israel exploded lebanon phones

[cinder quartz]

pagers*

[thorny steeple]

Yeah my friends just lost their phones

[compact tiger]

hii

[timid bane]

hello

[lavish creek]

unpopular opinion: french is not sexy and we must stop learning it. opinions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFz6KqZurFY

[lavish creek]

another one?

[thorny steeple]

yah i saw this in the news

[quasi needle]

popular fact

[pallid zealot]

French gotten steamrolled by the nazis

If there's no Allied forces, or the Soviet counterattacks, they will be long gone

If Napoleon doesn't fuck up by attacking Russia, we would all speaks french now

[feral river]

I don't think so at that time French govern is still separate and not focusing absolute unity

[pallid zealot]

But he is brilliant on par with Alexander the Great, if he was given same authority like Alexander did

[feral river]

they may not dissolve by foreign powers but internally rebellion or civil war initiated by the vacuum of power

[feral river]

that's what I said under his rule he didn't take much actions to assimilate other european states and focusing the national unity, after he dies a power of vacuum is all enough to make everything he have done disappear

[pallid zealot]

If I was Napoleon back then, i will create a military or police force similar to oprichnina, to create a iron fist government

[feral river]

and there's already a lot of rebellion forces comes out before he's going to take Russia

for example the situation in Spain

[pallid zealot]

A well organized oprichnina cold put down an entire rebellion

[feral river]

you need a totalitarian government to re-establish the great unitary french state, then talk about other stuff

otherwise it will finally going to collapse

the point is not you can win against a rebellion, the point is why there is rebellion under your rule ?

if you already determined to use force to end the rebellion, but not only this one, the one may happen in the future.

that's what he's missing

if he already concluded the result of end all the rebellion for one french state, then what you have said can possibly happen

[pallid zealot]

But Stalin doing great with Soviet union, with his iron fist, if gorby doesn't rush, a small pacifying force will suffice

[feral river]

a great unity state is taking a lot of struggle and times to establish.

that's why I cherish our unitary authoritarian state, PRC.

we will never give a chance to our enemies

[pallid zealot]

Man you are too proud

[feral river]

I'm proud of it, ofc why would I like a state that would be easily destoryed ?

we are a real global power, big boys

[pallid zealot]

Guard your country well, from inside and outside

[feral river]

yeah that's what we need and what we have done bro, you are really getting into this

[pallid zealot]

Should your rulers taking a wrong step, you have the whole world ready to shut your country down

[feral river]

the only solution is recklessly crack down on separation and anti-state forces internally and fight against enemies externally

[pallid zealot]

Don't try to mess with the SEA country, if they decide to unite like the Western European countries, it will spell your country doom

[feral river]

no worries they have the stuff we all have, we got nuclear stuff, biological and chemical weapons, space forces

if they really did something crazy to us, they will all die ultimately

we have enough force to protect our interest and safety

[pallid zealot]

They have the jungle experts and hard battle proven Vietnam, the seas faring Philippines, and the population of indonesia

Bro we don't have intention to attack your territory, it was your aggressive nature on south china sea that threatened them

[feral river]

well we claimed those water belongs to us

[pallid zealot]

Nah, that would sparks conflicts in the future

Do your country demography ready for it

[manic juniper]

Aren't their capitals sinking

If they unite their shared weight will bury them in the sea and mud

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[pallid zealot]

We can just relocate it

We have plenty of land

[thorny steeple]

I'm talking about is it halal to make my wife jerk for me or haram

[pallid zealot]

Bro we are talking about politics

[thorny steeple]

Politics are Hitler and USA so it's ok

Now let's talk about real things that we face

[feral river]

idk but they already done a lot of efforts to make the water belongs to us

and I don't mind if they took all the waters

[pallid zealot]

Remember you already lost to Vietnam in the past

What happens if the whole SEA back Vietnam up?

[feral river]

I didn't see we lost in Vietnam lol

that's a victory for us, or objectively it's a draw but Vietnam really being hurt by our attacks and Soviets were being pissed up

we will never allow another powerful neighbor rise around our border

that's about national security

[pallid zealot]

That's only Vietnam and it ended draw

Imagine if the whole SEA back Vietnam up

The unity in ASEAN was stronger than before, because the looming Chinese threat

And there will be no Russian support for China because they were busy in Ukraine

You will left with no allies

[feral river]

that's in the cold war

at that time we are not even rich or powerful

now we are the second most powerful state in the world

it's not in the same timeline

what about them ?

I would say they don't even stand a chance against Japan with South Korea

their semi-tech army

[pallid zealot]

Is Vietnam rich or powerful? They're still recovering from American invasion, at that time US is Superpower

They beat french, American and Japanese so easily in the past

And during that time American military technology surpassed even the Soviet union

Japan is weakling, they got beaten to pulp in Manchuria by the soviets

[thorny steeple]

been a while since am here

[feral river]

yeah cuz we guaranteed vietnamese that we will interfere if american cross the 17th parallel line

so american stuck in the south and they didn't cross the line

that's why they lose

[pallid zealot]

And Japan got beaten by the American in pacific

[feral river]

americans doesn't really want to fight us again in Vietnam cuz they already have some ptsd in Korean war

even they interpreted themselves had a ptsd

[pallid zealot]

The main advantages of Japanese is the momentum, if faced against well organized force like US or the Soviets, they will be slaughtered. South Korea? North Korea will bombard Seoul if the South Koreans diverted their forces from mainland

Also the Aussies won't ignore the threat if China dares to attack singapore

[feral river]

well their 50000 men....

[ebon cobalt]

someone learning english?

[pallid zealot]

This is for serious topics only, bear in mind if you could stand it

[pallid zealot]

Conscription is a thing

We also have the population of indonesia

Aussies could arm them easily

[signal talon]

hi everyone

what are you talking about?

[pallid zealot]

We already saw some f-35, Rafales, and F-15EX in Bali today

A lot of Sukhois also stationed in Malaysia, Vietnam and Indonesia

[signal talon]

what is the topic?

[pallid zealot]

The global conflicts

[signal talon]

oh and which one exactly?

[pallid zealot]

South china sea

[signal talon]

ok interesting

[pallid zealot]

These aircraft means business in South China sea Airspace, cause they're already battle proven

[topaz quiver]

Yeah, too many assertions on potential global war conflict on this topic. Purely impossible.

[feral river]

did you know we built several based in the South China sea ?

the man-made island for military bases

[pallid zealot]

The vietnamese also operates huge tank fleet and modern ATGM unit, while the Singaporean was built like fortress with Aster and NASSAMS

[frosty field]

They would never bomb Seoul due to it's close proximity to the North Korean border. It would also have major economic disadvantages for them and on top of that, the retaliation would be devastating for North Korea.

Zero chance unless the west is already in a full-blown WW3.

[pallid zealot]

He said if The South Koreans planned to wage war with Vietnam, the North could invade easily, because the North is allied with the vietnam

[smoky pagoda]

Coffee ☕

What you guyz yapping about

[signal talon]

why should south Korea invade Vietnam?

[pallid zealot]

Because he pit vietnamese with the Japanese and korean

While the vietnamese already beat the Americans who beat the japanese

[signal talon]

yes but back then Vietnamese army had USSR support

[pallid zealot]

They still have Russian support today

[signal talon]

Russia now is not so strong and has it's own problems

[pallid zealot]

We already have Singapore and natural islands of philipines

[frosty field]

That's an immense oversimplification. Would never happen.

[pallid zealot]

Like hell, they deal with 30+ NATO countries in ukraine

While they are alone

They even have not shifted to war economy

[frosty field]

Vietnam and South Korea's ties are pretty good now

Also, S. Korea wouldn't have any territorial/political/strategic reasons to wage war on Vietnam.

[pallid zealot]

Yeah I thought so

[frosty field]

And even if they DID wage war on Vietnam for some absurd reason, there is no chance that they leave their defenses against the North weakened.

[pallid zealot]

Neither countries have the capability to wage war on foreign soil

They can only use land based invasion

[main bison]

everyday news nothing special

[frosty field]

And EVEN if they left their defenses against the North weakened, because of Seoul's close proximity to the border, the USA's allyship, and China's vested interest into regional stability, it would STILL not happen.

Unless WW3 is already going on in the West, but at that point none of us are safe anymore due to the atomic bombs that'll be used lol

[cinder quartz]

okay

[pallid zealot]

We still doesn't have a countermeasure against ICBM

Even the patriots have little chances shooting down SRBM

The S-400 also sometimes fails shooting down ATACMS

Recently the iron dome and barak 3 missiles fails to intercept Iranian made missiles

These things are the most battle proven air defence systems in the world, but they are far from perfect

Once launched the Nuclear based ICBM can't be stopped

And it will cause chain retaliation from countries like USA, RUSSIA, EU, and India

The Chinese Will understand this consequences

The Aussies recently have nuclear sub stationed in case of Chinese aggression towards its national interest

[lavish creek]

what based peaceful asian conversation here

i wanna see the same kind of conversation between nowadays Germany and France

@manic juniper when you guys gonna invade Denmark?

can Scandinavian counties stand against the UK?

[dapper laurel]

They're germanic brothers

It would be a fratricidal conflict

[lavish creek]

hmmmmm

look

some Vietnamese are pretty similar to some Han

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_Vietnam

ig actually those guys even more similar coz etnicity matter for them more and for longer time

there was no European nation building

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagined_community

@dapper laurel actually if u are interesting why there are so many different phenotypes of Italians

[pallid zealot]

And yet there was once a conflict between these countries

[lavish creek]

oh boi there were conflicts between Croats and Serbs

my point isn't about "similar ethnics groups doest kill each other". As a matter of fact, i think they do it more frequently

there is no my point actually i'm just writing some shit

[dapper laurel]

In fact I think that in a broad sense there are differences between nations and different communities

@lavish creek

[dapper laurel]

Related to this post

[lavish creek]

yeap

[dapper laurel]

We can always categorize a certain group of people, with the same customs, traditions, culture, language etc.

[lavish creek]

national building is european and (maybe) american thing

[dapper laurel]

The first real nations were born in Europe with the first constitutions

Ah, ideals can also be used to categorize people

[lavish creek]

many start history of nationalism with France revolution

some says it's industrial of Vestal treaty

[thorny steeple]

someone knows the meaning of " i spaz out "

[dapper laurel]

As for the phenotype of Italians, well, this is a fact, here we have all the existing European phenotypes, from north to south

They are also distributed more or less homogeneously

[lavish creek]

that's why i kinda support u (not in ur radical way tbh) when we discussed integration

[dapper laurel]

You can find blond Sicilians, as well as tanned people in the north

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, right, thanks

[lavish creek]

one may put it not like someone asking u to change ur race or ethnicity lol, but fully accept the culture (naturalize)

[dapper laurel]

Yes, that's what I meant, a society in order to function well must be homogeneous

[lavish creek]

as did many different ethnic groups before and that's what make it one nation, not just subjects under some rulers

[dapper laurel]

We could draw a parallel with the European Union, if we Europeans accept common values, a common language and so on, we will be able to cooperate perfectly

I would be willing to give up part of my identity for the common good

@lavish creek what do you think?

[lavish creek]

i don't know

maybe that's make sense maybe not

we already expand all this identities, it's no longer Europe but West etc

[dapper laurel]

I know, but it's because of Us

[lavish creek]

i am not big fan of US tbf (no offence american fellas)

[dapper laurel]

Europe was born as something for Europeans, not to be an organization affiliated with the United States

[lavish creek]

im pro-European

[dapper laurel]

I consider them as our brothers from across the sea, but their power is now unbalanced in their favor

[lavish creek]

and i believe Europeans and Americans different (which is good for both)

there is no military and gun obsession for instance

and if we forget Nazis there never have been those emotional swing between ban on interracial marriage and woke kneeling

why are you so racist toward other Asians?

[pallid zealot]

Yeah I wonder too, I thought we were brothers

We came from Yunan after all

Too proud maybe?

[lavish creek]

just 10 days ago she used to say the same thing about Indians

[pallid zealot]

They still rely on us for some commodities, without the SEA, China will have no electricity

Indians is Aryans, they came from persia

[lavish creek]

there are diffent ethnics groups firs of all

Aryan stuff is pseudoscience (2)

[dapper laurel]

Once again I hear these crazy theories

[lavish creek]

just friendly reminding you that US had way more strong economy that Vietnam and they lost anyway

[pallid zealot]

True

If the war was prolonged, china economy will be in ruins

[lavish creek]

My courtly is NOT India

[dapper laurel]

Because they are falling down on sports infrastructure... Exactly what do you expect?? They are developing countries compared to countries like Japan and China

[lavish creek]

what should i admit? lol

[dapper laurel]

I don't understand why some people despise certain countries so much, there is literally no benefit

[dapper laurel]

Real 🤣

I don't understand why they behave like this, there is literally no Aryan as a real race

[pallid zealot]

Supremacist? They are?

[dapper laurel]

It's just pseudoscience

[dapper laurel]

Maybe

[lavish creek]

it's about language stuff + swastika + german propaganda in ww2

[lavish creek]

some of them maybe, as well as between Chinese or Vietnamese

i know many great ppl from south India so you are guys making huge assumptions and generalizations

[languid tulip]

Hi everyone! Hope you're doing well. I'm looking for some study material to help me grow. I'm from America but did not take my eduation seriously and would like to learn the basics. (even the difference between nouns,verbs, adj) I know it's embarassing but I'm here to learn more and better myself. If anyone has some recommendations feel free to ping/ dm me!

[lavish creek]

https://freespeechdebate.com/discuss/why-is-mein-kampf-the-12th-most-sold-history-book-on-amazon-india/

lool

[lavish creek]

.

lol

[prisma cipher]

Damn

[lavish creek]

AHAHAHAA

Mate say what Russians think about it

[thorny steeple]

is it worth to read?

[lavish creek]

no

[thorny steeple]

it just sounds very weird

[lavish creek]

where are you from mate

[thorny steeple]

From Georgia

[lavish creek]

please, reply to that

[prisma cipher]

Гамарджоба

[lavish creek]

what person from post-soviet country would say

[thorny steeple]

Georgia is even not always considered as a Asian country

It's between Asia and Europe

[lavish creek]

i'm not talking about it my boi

i know

[lavish creek]

Natahtari

u see i know a low about Georgia already

never have been there tbf

[thorny steeple]

Yes, not all people from Asia are of the same race, it's pretty obvious

But for me race doen't mean too much

[lavish creek]

i'm not talking about it

[thorny steeple]

🐸

k

[lavish creek]

can Russian person from instance distinguish Mongols, Han ppl, Koreans?

[prisma cipher]

All Asian the same

[lavish creek]

finally

get some racism too, our Chinese superhuman

[prisma cipher]

In my classification of Asian. Turk and Georgian aren't Asian

Philippines kazakh china Japan Asian

[thorny steeple]

Why are you discussing this?

[lavish creek]

well Armenia and Georgia definitely are part of Europe

[prisma cipher]

Because he ask me

[thorny steeple]

And why he is discussing it?

[lavish creek]

scroll up my friend

[prisma cipher]

I said it's my personal classification, you Asian

Why it even important how I see people like Asian or no

[lavish creek]

"completely"

i wouldn't provoke that only if not the way you talk about them

@pallid zealot remember that a European Jew and Russian dude stood for you mate

[manic juniper]

They cannot

[manic juniper]

I would rather ally with Denmark to take the ex Finnish majority parts of Sweden and Norway but I'm not a revanchist or irredentist

[pallid zealot]

Hey you're referring to a wrong person

The Jews do nothing to us, they're too far away, the Russians did help a lot during the independence

[sonic hazel]

Hello

[lavish creek]

heyy

[sonic hazel]

how are u? What is the topic?

[lavish creek]

i'm fine, what about u??

oh, nothing special, just debunking some Chinese racism

[sonic hazel]

just feeling pain in my neck, but all good. Ty

[sonic hazel]

Oh.. got it..

[rough willow]

Hello

[sonic hazel]

Hi

[broken raven]

<@&852814479569059840> hey guys i cant go in any of the hangout side vcs is it normal ?

[spring zephyr]

You need to have Level 5.

[lavish creek]

hope u ll get better soon

[broken raven]

oh alright thank's

[sonic hazel]

ty

[lavish creek]

where can we check our lvl?

[spring zephyr]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/976912258963755038 Here. Use /rank command and select probot and paste your user id.

[lavish creek]

<3

oh, we actually can create our own speaking room here

would anyone like to talk?

[manic juniper]

The serious chat ethnostate

[lavish creek]

here u go

there is even a pass now

652

[manic juniper]

Can someone stream there?

[lavish creek]

ye

[lavish creek]

@manic juniper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque–Icelandic_pidgin

[manic juniper]

Yes I know that

Maybe I will stream Spyro 2 in the channel

[dense agate]

the remake or the original ?

[manic juniper]

I'm playing the original for the achievements

[lavish creek]

let me know

[prisma cipher]

👍

[manic juniper]

If it's not allowed I will leave in protest

[dense agate]

well well well, someone be emulating the ps1

[prisma cipher]

It was remaked if I remember correctly

[manic juniper]

Yes, the Reignited Trilogy. But I prefer the controls of the original games

[river nimbus]

no we don't

[prisma cipher]

It's my classification

[river nimbus]

but it's wrong btw

Philippines are known as tan and we have more stronger features than some Asians

maybe u're looking at the white washed Filipino dhsvsjsbbau

[prisma cipher]

Washed Philipino make me laugh ngl

[river nimbus]

BWHAHAHAHA yea

but u do know what it means or nah?

[prisma cipher]

No idea

[river nimbus]

it means mixed

[prisma cipher]

Damn

Why you wash Philippines like that

Now I'm getting curious

[river nimbus]

noooo

that's just how we describe Filipinos who are mixed but don't act as Filipino theirselves

[prisma cipher]

Okok

[manic juniper]

Those are kinda cringe ngl

[prisma cipher]

No cringe

[manic juniper]

Why not be a Filipino, it sounds fun to chase wild pigs and shoot ships with a lantaka

[smoky pagoda]

Coffee ☕

[river nimbus]

well they do have the choice to not do the typical Filipino stuffs since they are mixed

but

it becomes bad when they do not even act as Filipino theirselves and yet they have the nerves to discriminate the whole culture

[manic juniper]

It's bad to deny who we are, it makes life less enjoyable

[thorny steeple]

Hello ppl what yall talkin bt?

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/my-melody-spin-gif-12369475574630660630

[river nimbus]

yea but i think the reason why they always deny their Filipino blood is because they think of Philippines too low

[indigo flicker]

[thorny steeple]

peek a boo

[indigo flicker]

omaga

[thorny steeple]

nvm i wont talk with u ur rly rude

[manic juniper]

Yeah, I've met foreign students from countries poorer that like them a lot less than I do

[indigo flicker]

i am

[thorny steeple]

++++22

[manic juniper]

I don't think a culture is worth less just because it comes from somewhere poorer

[river nimbus]

i actually think Filipino culture is awesome and very fun but yea our country is corrupted so it makes it easy for foreigners to judge the whole Philippines

[manic juniper]

I think so as well, Filipino food seems very sweet and varied

Also stuff like the bamboo cannon or the different animals living there are pretty unique, I found out that some Filipino languages had their own alphabets too

[prisma cipher]

👍

[manic juniper]

Most European languages never did besides very few

[river nimbus]

alphabets?

like a, b, c?

[manic juniper]

Yes, like this one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baybayin

The one we are using right now is the Latin alphabet, it was created in central Italy. But many Filipinos had their own alphabets before Latin

[river nimbus]

idk what is that

but i don't think we ever use it

[river nimbus]

oh so it was back then?

[manic juniper]

It was before the Spanish colonisation

The origins are unknown, but it's related to other alphabets from nearby cultures in Indonesia and Malaysia

[thorny steeple]

ohvvv i see

[manic juniper]

Because of European colonisation all of them have been replaced by the Latin alphabet nowadays

[river nimbus]

ah

i see

i was confused at first

but yea, we don't use Baybayin anymore

[manic juniper]

Yes, it's a piece of history

[river nimbus]

but we do use some different alphabets

[manic juniper]

ᜁᜎᜒᜉᜒᜈ᜔ I think this is how you type "Filipino" in it

[river nimbus]

like

wait

[manic juniper]

I'll wait

[river nimbus]

it doesn't let me enter it

😭

[river nimbus]

oh

i never knew that

[manic juniper]

What is it

[river nimbus]

like this two only

[manic juniper]

The egne

Wtf it's censored on this server?

[river nimbus]

can u pronounce "NG"? Non-filipinos usually strugles to pronounce it

[manic juniper]

Lmfaooo

[river nimbus]

yes

[manic juniper]

Yes, I learned how to pronounce that from studying Italian

[pale crater]

man this guy is weird

[manic juniper]

I tried to make a Filipino read Italian once, seems like they can get most sounds right because they're not that different

[river nimbus]

gooddddd

[manic juniper]

The phonology I mean

[river nimbus]

my father used to work in Italy and he would always teach me Italian

but now i forgot

[whole beacon]

[manic juniper]

Sad, I know a bit of other languages similar to Italian and I noticed that the Spanish influences in Filipino are many

[river nimbus]

hi papaaa

[manic juniper]

For example work is something like trabaho, it's similar to French traveiller and Sicilian travagghiari

[river nimbus]

oh yea cause we were colonized by Spain

[manic juniper]

In Italian there is the word travaglio but it means something else

[river nimbus]

we also have Chavacano which is similar to Spanish but it is used by Filipinos

[river nimbus]

i've heard of thatttt

[manic juniper]

Ah it's a creole language

[whole beacon]

Hey Jen jen 🙋

[river nimbus]

yes btw where are u from?

[manic juniper]

Finland 🇫🇮

[river nimbus]

woah but u seem to know Philippines well

thank u for being educated about our country

[manic juniper]

I have some friends from there and I also like local cultures and the animals from there, like the wild pigs

I would like to visit one day and see the pigs, the birds and the small primates living there

Also the lizards

[river nimbus]

oh yeaaa

it's pretty

i have this video that shows the beauty of Philippines, want to see it?

[manic juniper]

Yes

It would be cool to see a tarsier in real life but I will be careful not to scare it away

Also you can dive and see the whale sharks

[river nimbus]

https://youtu.be/ypXudQxxrOw?feature=shared

[river nimbus]

yea, our beaches are really unique

[manic juniper]

I saw a post on IG about a crazy palace on a river, whoever posted it only said that it was in Philippines without saying where

It looked pretty spectacular

[river nimbus]

oh

let me try to find it

[manic juniper]

I'll see if I can find it

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DACnvLYTX6n/?igsh=bG9oMHVtcnNkZ2Ro

Is it an hotel?

[river nimbus]

OHH

woah, even foreigners also see this

the place is actually getting famous now here

[manic juniper]

What is it?

[river nimbus]

the place is calles Las Casas Filipinas De Acuzar

[manic juniper]

I think he added it to the caption because it wasn't there before

[river nimbus]

the google said that it is a hotel

[manic juniper]

Oh it must be expensive, no way it looks that good and it's cheap

[river nimbus]

it's not that expensive actually

but if u're saving up, don't go here cause it's not that worthy to spend that much money in just 1 night

[manic juniper]

It'd be better to spend the least to see the most

There is a lot to see in Philippines

[river nimbus]

yes

there's a lot more cheaper but worth it to visit

[manic juniper]

Diving with the shark is on the list

And seeing these

[river nimbus]

u can do that but i don't think i wanna try that 😭

[river nimbus]

ooh tarsier

[manic juniper]

They're whale sharks, they don't attack humans

[river nimbus]

don't the other countries have tarsier as well?

[manic juniper]

I think it's even safer to dive next to them because they're big and they scare other sharks away

[manic juniper]

Maybe Indonesia and Malaysia do, but no they don't exist outside of SEA. In Africa there are monkeys that evolved to look similar (the galagos)

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-hopping-approaching-coming-going-back-gif-14133805

[river nimbus]

i'm scared of diving deep on oceans and also at sharks 😭

[manic juniper]

They look very similar but are completely unrelated

[river nimbus]

they look more scary omg

[manic juniper]

These jump around in a funny way, tarsiers are shy instead

[inner wasp]

For IELTS academic writing task 2 I'm struggling to find ideas and explain them also creating sentences to talk about them is a big problem for me. Can someone help me with essay planning and creating sentences when I need to talk about them? my aim is 7.5 in writing

[manic juniper]

Also there are the loris but I don't know if they live in Philippines too

https://tenor.com/view/slow-loris-gif-10244574

This is a slow loris

[river nimbus]

um i don't think i have heard of it so i'm assuming they don't

[river nimbus]

it's cuteee

but also a bit scary looking

[manic juniper]

Apparently yes they are in Philippines too

[river nimbus]

i need to see them

are they even in zoo's 🥹

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/colugo-gif-19628070

There are also these, the colugos or flying lemurs

They are like gliding squirrels but giant

[manic juniper]

The slow lorises could be, they are easy to take care of and they're pretty tame

[river nimbus]

i'm gonna sleep now, gn

[manic juniper]

Goodnight!

[river nimbus]

[feral river]

how about our great east asia also have distinct animals

like pandas used for diplomacy

horses for military usages

[rotund pawn]

[pallid zealot]

It's morning actually in Philippines 🤭

[ionic hedge]

Hii! Is anyone available rnn? I need to talk to a foreigner about their culture, for educational purposes onlyy :))

[mellow siren]

Hii , I’m available rn , sure I’d love to help out

[feral river]

Economy is a short-term issue, but the stability and territory’s are long term issues

Economy is not the reason to lag us on our century-long rejuvenation

[ionic hedge]

Is it okay if I'll add youu?

[mellow siren]

Yea sure

[ionic hedge]

Okay, Thank you so much! 🤍

[mellow siren]

Np

[feral river]

Although don’t think our economy isn’t ready to war we are rapidly shifting our economy towards self-dependence with large amount of state-owned companies taking over some industries that foreign investment is doing

Our water, our rules

[spark wind]

hello guys!! I'm aly from Philippines looking for new friend 🥰

[pallid zealot]

Could you live without Indonesian coal? 😂

[turbid ivy]

😵‍💫 why war

[lament acorn]

Hi

[turbid ivy]

Is there another debate between Yeet Team Vs ask a Christian. I had slept my bad

[shy summit]

Its usually not a debate so much as Theo misinterpreting something, Yeet getting mad then chaos

[lavish creek]

It's just general perception and that's why I asked him

No one said that it's accurate and right

Mostly I did it to show our Chinese Ubermensch how her behaviour towards other Asians look from another corner

[lavish creek]

There are not so many Filipinos in post-soviet counties tbf

[turbid ivy]

Yeah 😆

[feral river]

what the heck indonesian coal I didn't even heard of it

any there any circumstances that we use coal ?

we use natural gas imported from Russia and electricity produced by us for almost everything ?

we are the world's biggest electricity producer

we are not in the 80s probably cuz I never see coals after 2010

you guys must have some old-fashion way to perceive China

[thorny steeple]

@lavish creek fact check it

[feral river]

https://chineseclimatepolicy.oxfordenergy.org/book-content/domestic-policies/coal/

we strictively control the use of coals and in some areas we practiced the coal ban

[lavish creek]

I couldn't care less tbh

No more current politics stuff for me here only glory of Rome and Fino-ugric pagan stuff

[feral river]

well it's the first time I heard someone says we will be cut off by coal

that was a little bit unexpected

[thorny steeple]

True

[thorny steeple]

For the glory of Roma

[feral river]

because our core interest may not be assured and being enforced in a peaceful way.

we must mobilize ourselves for anything because war possibly happen, and that's what we do

even I just know that our province is a strategic province that most highways in the province are able to land fighters

[lavish creek]

dulce bellum inexpertis

[dusty nest]

is there any person who does works on HR or Head Hunting? ve some questions to take suggestions

[thorny steeple]

Ad Senatum populumque Romanum

[turbid ivy]

Such as?

[feral river]

South China Sea disputes, South Tibet, Taiwan etc.

[turbid ivy]

China has released the new map. He wants to capture the nearby territory

Ot good

Not good

Ahm @weary belfry, why are you a Muslim? 🥴

[weary belfry]

I was right to be afraid of your questions

[turbid ivy]

[weary belfry]

I think environmental factors and family environment played a role in this. I live in a country with a lot of Muslims. At school they teach us Islam. At home we do what Islam tells us to do... I think the most effective factor is that I am a Muslim. But at the same time, there is a belief inside me that Islam is the true religion, this belief is a belief that allows me to remain a Muslim

Also if you don't mind let me ask you a question.. Is there a specific reason behind asking questions about Islam?

[turbid ivy]

Oh interesting, so suppose if i ask you how it's true, what would be your general answer, next question haha sorry

Oh, I was curious about it. As a Christian, I believe Islam is not true, looking at the Teachings, it's doctrines, you know..make me feel it's something not right. So, I was curious like why I mean you are a Muslim, yeah, so that's why I asked you

[feral river]

That was called environmental influence, one of the major social behaviors of humanity

[weary belfry]

I have to go now. Can I answer your question when I get back?

[turbid ivy]

Oh, yeah, I agree 😦

[turbid ivy]

Yes, take you time. Thank you so much

[craggy sphinx]

Hello beings of the highest light

[blazing solstice]

helloo

[turbid ivy]

Hi Eisan, nice meeting you

[turbid ivy]

Hello Ruby, good to see you

[shy summit]

I have to ask @turbid ivy What is your obsession with Islam in particular

It’s all over your blog’s front page you go out of your way specifically to ask Muslims about the underbelly of their historica and cultural practice, yet I never see you ask any Judaic worshipers or any Hindus or any Atheists

So… why Muslims?

Forgive my observation but you seem to be aiming at conversational talking points with the expressed intent of making Muslims and their culture out to be some kind of barbaric degeneracy.

[turbid ivy]

Oh, it's because I haven't yet studied much about Hinduism and etc

Judaism, I think yeah,I should aslo talk about it

[shy summit]

I imagine it has much more in common thus much more in conflict with any branch of Christianity.

That said, the blog in your bio says much my friend.

There’s no mention of any other religions on your front page besides Islam, and only in so doing mentions things like rape and abuse,…

It really seems like you have some kind of vendetta

[feral river]

Well I don’t think he’s that mean to Muslims just a normal talk isn’t it

[shy summit]

The only time I’ve seen Islam mentioned in his talks is to bring up things like one night stands, rape, spousal abuse etc.

Maybe he’s said more, its just that every time I’ve witnessed it, its never in good faith

Thus my concern

[craggy sphinx]

nabuuu hiii

hru?

[feral river]

Don’t be obsessed with political true in America 🤣 in other places it’s not so sensitive to talk about these matters and the good way to eliminate discrimination is to study it isn’t it ?

[blazing solstice]

youre against islam?

[shy summit]

Oh trust me I’m not above critiquing ideas I disagree with. But inso doing I at least make it known.

Approaching a conversation with the expressed intent of making someone look like a morally bankrupt degenerate is not how conversation works.

There is a time and a place for that. But pretending to be curious and intending to do as is being done?

[blazing solstice]

its not about the religion anyone can do these and its not related to islam

[shy summit]

See with me I make it known upfront that these verbal hands are rated E for everyone.

You know I’m anti-religious institution, I make no secret about that.

I will listen to you, to a point that it doesn’t become calls of violence or harming others. I’ll critique you

[feral river]

Hummm I trust you bro you are the best just be relax I think 😂

Ofc if you wanna confirm something just ask him is okay I think

[brave lava]

so how does this place work? you wait for clasess to start and they teach you?

[shy summit]

There’s events but its mostly immersion style practice in our voice channels

[feral river]

For me I respect religious people no matter what they believe but I’m totally against the religious movement and influence

[brave lava]

elaborate please?

like is there set people or anyone can join vc to practice with other people

cause im trying to see if this place is good to help my sister from Germany to get her English better

[shy summit]

Basically its mostly you just casually talking with other people to practice your english.

The voice channels are broken up by skill level and you can join one based on whatever level you’re comfortable with.

Teachers have events scheduled and will sometimes do lessons on specific topics.

[brave lava]

and they are activly there to help you?

and can you get like 1 on 1s?

[lavish creek]

Well it's maybe, but it's repeating again and again

From an outsider's view that looks strange

[shy summit]

There’s smaller rooms for one on one conversation but you’d have to talk with a teacher for that kind of special session. That’s up to them.

[brave lava]

do you knwo where i can find said teachers?

oh i see them

[shy summit]

👍

So Nabu you understand my concern?

[turbid ivy]

There is no argument about it. I don't attack Poole. I have no intention to make them barbaric. I merely attack their teachings of Islam.

[shy summit]

Alright. It was just an observation I had over the past week or so. Probably just me being overprotective

[turbid ivy]

These are problematic issues. I care about them and I gotta talk about it

[shy summit]

I agree and I do to, but I usually bring them up in the broader context of social stagflation and fundamental stasis as a result of being in a conflict zone where the world wars by proxy

[turbid ivy]

That's correct

[shy summit]

Because its not just one religion’s problem, not just one culture. These problems are sociological in nature, multifaceted

[turbid ivy]

I didn't find rape taught in other religions

[shy summit]

Its important to understand that at one point every culture had a dirty and grimy phase,… western culture has the advantage of not being in constant conflict as to stunt cultural development

[feral river]

Do u think my English is good ngl ?

[turbid ivy]

I agree. I'm more on focusing on religious doctrines so called Teachings

[shy summit]

It’s hard to think about anything more than base needs and survival when power systems shift so drastically and so frequently.

That in turn informs things like religion. Remember the people of Israel also had similar martial practices before Christ came and considered the old testament fulfilled

[turbid ivy]

I disagree, but OK

[lavish creek]

Well, remember nikah discussion ? You asked a guy about it and then sent your paper which HAS BEEN ALREADY written

Like what a point

[turbid ivy]

I was asking him to explain surah 65.4

[turbid ivy]

I was clarifying what it is in exactly. He had a wrong understanding of it

[lavish creek]

But your paper was already written with your comments

[turbid ivy]

Yes, I was helping him to understand it

[lavish creek]

Well then it's not a start of a discussion but a preaching

[shy summit]

A shift in religion isn’t the solution as its not the cause of the core issue

[turbid ivy]

It's a discussion, he could have brought his own sources. I was giving my sources. Otherwise my speech would be a mere claim like atheism, without any justification

[lavish creek]

"my sources", ou, your article u mean ?

[turbid ivy]

Those are sources, I copied them from sunnah and tafsirs

[shy summit]

Ignoring that little jibe for now 👁️👄👁️

Remember that not everyone has advanced English comprehension here. Many are still learning.

[lavish creek]

Well then it would be more fair to drop ur article and then ask about thoughts

What would Tomas Aucvinas say about those "tricks" damn

[turbid ivy]

Well, I have a different approach, but thanks for your advice. Have a great day

[lavish creek]

Have a nice day too

[turbid ivy]

I'm not a Catholic, but OK

[lavish creek]

What would Augustine of Hippo say

[turbid ivy]

Holap, are you also a Muslim?

[lavish creek]

Nope

[turbid ivy]

He's dead, what would he say khyah

[turbid ivy]

A Catholic?

[lavish creek]

I do not really wanna share my personal beliefs with rude people like you tnh

But you can't stand again me in a teleological debate trust me

[turbid ivy]

Oou leally?
I thought I was being cool.my bad.

Are you am atheist

[turbid ivy]

Ewwhw try

😵‍💫 me based

[shy summit]

Understandable. Nabu, I will not ask you to change any of your opinions. But I will recommend you try methods that are less combative in nature.

If I perceived you as outwardly hostile, then it’s possible others probably have as well.

People are more likely to listen if you come to them bearing an Olive Branch, rather than the jagged edge of an essay condemning their culture.

[turbid ivy]

true

[shy summit]

If people see you as wanting to fight them, they’re less likely to listen

[feral river]

Sounds like a challenge that the supreme leader will curious

[lavish creek]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 14%3A10&version=NIV

[turbid ivy]

I have tried that approach but when I was doing it, they didn't care about it, instead they brought jadged ege against me.

But I go through easy ones first, then later, I bring tough ones

[shy summit]

Seek the middle ground then

Find where you agree go from there

All you do in bringing a knife to the table is make people less focused on your what you’re saying, and more focused on whether or not you’re going to pull that knife on them

[turbid ivy]

No weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed, and you shall refute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their vindication from me, declares the Lord.”
Isaiah 54.17 😐

[lavish creek]

Well I just heard their "debate" in vc

[turbid ivy]

That's a good method. I agree with this

[lavish creek]

Guys haven't even read the Bible

[shy summit]

Don’t go to the table looking to condemn,

Go to the table looking to learn

[turbid ivy]

Yes

[turbid ivy]

That's good

[shy summit]

Now. As it is nearly midnight where I am, I schweep now.

Nini

[turbid ivy]

Good night, Nale. Thanks for your advises, they were pretty good

[turbid ivy]

I have read

[lavish creek]

Read again
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus+3%3A2&version=ESV

[turbid ivy]

I try not to speak evil and quarrel. I try to resolve

[lavish creek]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+5%3A6&version=ESV
Then once again

[turbid ivy]

I do that before God 😇

[turbid ivy]

Have you read the Bible?

In total

[lavish creek]

I have read way more then just only the Bible my lil boi

[turbid ivy]

Did you notice I'm doing something

Wrong

[lavish creek]

I already pointed it out

[turbid ivy]

You said rude

How I was rude

[lavish creek]

I already explained that, if you didn't get it welll read excerpts which I sent

[turbid ivy]

It's the first time I'm talking you. I think you are assuming me a different a guy 🤨

I was so nice yesterday, people wee laughing

@thorny steeple right, I didn't notice him before

Verdadero 🙂

Google translation
Nyum

If we have any athiests... how do we know what is good and bad

[wanton zinc]

Wow you had a pretty long talk about theology

what were you talking about?

(i'm lazy, don't want to read all that)

[turbid ivy]

Ahmm we were talking about how we should debate haha

[wanton zinc]

hahahah debating about how to debate

[turbid ivy]

Yes hahha

[turbid ivy]

[wanton zinc]

and the conclusion was?

[turbid ivy]

im rude thihhi 😭

[main bison]

Guyzoo

the polls r saying Harris is a bit higher

😭

To he honest i just dont thing nothing speciall would happen if harris win

its the Biden's government so she is going to have the same policy

The inflation rate would be same

the illgal immgrates coming to usa

the crime rate

All the same as now

The tax rate

[thorny steeple]

Just let Trump lose

[main bison]

nooo
if u want him to lose it means that ur satisfied with today's policy

i mean i cant explain it so good my english sucks but u know

[thorny steeple]

No it's I it's the polls saying he might lose

If he loses the electoral college it's joever to trump

[main bison]

So u r fine with all chaos in the word the palastinan ukraine ones and etc

[main bison]

harris is a woman
Can u use she?

im confused

[thorny steeple]

She is a women

Mexico's president the new one is a woman

[main bison]

Oki

[thorny steeple]

Ukraine's cause by Russia, Israel is a old problem after the pager attack I hope it doesn't escalate to middle east world War

[main bison]

but none of these were an issue under trumps presidency

there was a fire cease in palestine

Trumo himself that he would end the war in ukraine in just 1 day

i doubt honestly it i think but i think it would takes within 2 monthes

[thorny steeple]

Because they weren't being poked at although they existed just were calmed

[main bison]

so im saying TRUMP WOULD FIX IT

[thorny steeple]

Via the Ukrainian losing territory the same policy that made Czechoslovakia lose territory and eventually fully dismantle and annex by Germany

[main bison]

cool

[thorny steeple]

Via forcing it ofc he would

[main bison]

so

all good
No wars under trump

do u like wars?

[thorny steeple]

He caused Iran to restart their nuclear program

Back in his presidency

[thorny steeple]

Obviously not he as president would not work

[main bison]

it doesnt matter they're not gonna nuke anyone
North korea also has nukes

[main bison]

wat

[thorny steeple]

They don't have nukes yet, it's not a matter of if but more on when

[thorny steeple]

Those fools, will use them if something happens unlike China that has it for self defense

[main bison]

even if they had it couldnt reach anywhere

they need a plane to carry it
and it would be shot as soon as it crosses border

[thorny steeple]

They can reach places although not the US mainland entirely

[thorny steeple]

Y'know rocket base nukes exits it's not the 1945 when you needed a bomber for it

[magic olive]

Your everywhere

Somewhat i was in good olden days

[thorny steeple]

Not everywhere y'know, I'm a far cry from my testing peak

[magic olive]

[thorny steeple]

Had to put limits I was going crazy

[magic olive]

[thorny steeple]

🪓

[supple kettle]

bruh

[smoky pagoda]

Coffee ☕

[manic juniper]

There are less unique animals because insular animals evolve in very unique ways

Some of the most amazing animals China had went extinct or are thought to be extinct, for example Hanyusuchus, or the giant softshell turtle that is functionally extinct now

Or the giant South Chinese salamander, the Chinese paddlefish...

[main bison]

i didnt know

[feral river]

at least we have our panda that everyone loves

[manic juniper]

Yes, there used to be a panda in Europe but it went extinct very long ago

[thorny steeple]

What's the problem guys

[lavish creek]

We need to get them back

[turbid ivy]

Great idea

[feral river]

you can have it back after europe under Chinese domination

[pallid zealot]

Keep dreaming buddy

[feral river]

that is just a joke lol

[turbid ivy]

Bruh 😅😆

[feral river]

that's our properties lol

[turbid ivy]

Bruh

[rain vessel]

hi

[dapper laurel]

Now we have FIAT panda

[manic juniper]

We need hippos and straight tusked elephants back in Europe

And woolly rhinos

[terse prawn]

Anyone knows about OBS rec, im getting trash quality i need good configuration

[pallid zealot]

We have couple of sumatran Rhinos, but we did not want to give it to you

[manic juniper]

I don't want Sumatran rhinos, I want woolly rhinos

They found them frozen in Siberia so maybe they can be cloned

[pallid zealot]

Have luck find them in Siberia then, that place is not for humans

It's resembles a permafrost realm

[manic juniper]

Many people live there

[main bison]

ello

[main bison]

i know siberia from GTA4
Niko waa from there

[manic juniper]

lol I think that was Serbia

[weary belfry]

I feel that Islam is the right religion cuz I see gaps in other religions. Some logical fallacies
Also, your research on Islam is excellent

[heavy parcel]

something something and than he like "something something" after they like something something and everything something something

[regal nimbus]

did you just say something 8 times and it actually makes sense

[sour marlin]

Prophet Jesus peace and blessings be upon him

[main bison]

wait what
I just realised that serbia is a country and siberia is a region of russia

[heavy parcel]

From one side I want to say that you need some geography classes, but from other side it's so useless places to know about so it doesn't matter

[main bison]

i already knew them
Its like confusing austria with australia

[main bison]

but thats a german bmw
Cool song anyway

[pallid zealot]

You're here too selena

[rose eagle]

hey, is your life in brazil safe? Do you have to worry much about being kidnapped or robbed when you're out on the street? I heard that the crime situation in Brazil is very bad and the mafia here is also very dangerous because I saw many scary torture gores

[pallid zealot]

How old are you?

[shy summit]

You realize crime rates are down across the board right…..?

[thorny steeple]

Jesus ain't a prophet

[rose eagle]

Why are you asking about his age?

[pallid zealot]

Canada is the safest place, but there also car theft there, no countries are safe from crime

[past musk]

I agree

[rose eagle]

hmm i thought him from random east europe countries?

[pallid zealot]

She was muslim, just respect her belief

[thorny steeple]

Yeah man stay safe from it Jesus is lord

[pallid zealot]

Because he was talking about GTA, I just curious

[thorny steeple]

Ah yes the belief with p edophillia

[shy summit]

That’s enough

[rose eagle]

vietnam too
Although Vietnam is also considered quite safe, there are still petty crimes such as pickpocketing and motorbike theft (occasionally) especially in Ho Chi Minh City,

[pallid zealot]

Whoa got, a racist here

[thorny steeple]

Muslims aren't a race bro anything you can convert to and leave isn't a race this is simple af

[pallid zealot]

It has lowest rate of crime in SEA right?

[shy summit]

Its prejudiced not racist, still bad and not tolerated but @thorny steeple too far if you wanna levy an argument sure but what you just did is not okay

[rose eagle]

hmm I think Singapore

[shy summit]

Critique Ideas but don’t generalize people.

[thorny steeple]

Standing up against immoral shit is a valid thing to do first they call Jesus a prophet because their book which came 600 years later said so and then the central figure of that religion is a p edophile and a rap!st

[thorny steeple]

I am criticizing the idea

[thorny steeple]

Iran wants to lower the age of consent to 9 hmmm I wonder why 9

[pallid zealot]

I don't regard the people with prejudice and racism as a worthy person to talk to, they're trash

[shy summit]

First of all, you need to understand two things. Those two things you mentioned are still problems in Christian culture today.

[rose eagle]

In Vietnam I have never seen a robber using a gun, there are but very very rare, pickpockets often snatch the phone of passersby quickly or they can use a knife but this is quite rare.

[thorny steeple]

How many times does this have to be said Muslims aren't a race

[thorny steeple]

Not in the book we have people can be bad

[shy summit]

And that the country you mentioned is the recipient of violence and conflict and has been since forever,

[thorny steeple]

I am not stereotyping Muslims I am against the cult of islam

[shy summit]

My guy do not test me on this

You can argue sure but do it in good faith

[pallid zealot]

But i said prejudice, you didn't saw, your heart and eyes was burning with hatred to even saw my whole point

[rose eagle]

In Hanoi, if you are caught stealing, you will probably be chased by someone and then a group of people will rush to beat you before you are handed over to the police.

[thorny steeple]

Bro thinks he is like batman or something

[shy summit]

Bro is the moderator in this situation

Take a break

[dapper laurel]

Prophet?

Are you kidding me?

[pallid zealot]

Hehe, it's so similar in my country, but the vietnamese seems braver doing this

[pallid zealot]

She was muslim I said

[main bison]

16

[shy summit]

This makes much more sense now

[main bison]

so then who's prophet in Christianity? noah?

[rose eagle]

People in my country are like, what the heck are you afraid of, the law takes care of everything

[dapper laurel]

So? It's cultural appropriation, Jesus founded Christianity and is its basis, saying he is just a prophet is quite offensive

[pallid zealot]

I see, reminds me the younger me, are you okay hanging out in this section? This gonna be spicy

[shy summit]

In Islam Jesus is not god just a prophet of god

[pallid zealot]

Maybe it's only you? People are okay with this mostly

[dapper laurel]

As I said, it is a belief that is in strong contrast with Christianity, it denies it in some ways, it's offensive

[rose eagle]

https://ngoisao.vnexpress.net/ke-cuop-dien-thoai-bi-danh-bam-dap-4217068.html

[shy summit]

If you’re offended by someone else believing differently from you then I can’t help you son.

[rose eagle]

where are u from?
Malaysia?

[main bison]

yeah
That italian mate is also 16

[rose eagle]

me too

[dapper laurel]

No, I am rather offended by the unreliability of some statements, Jesus cannot be considered a prophet

[pallid zealot]

Nale you've been fighting prejudice, I bet you're not even muslim, you're doing amazing works here, we need more open minded person like you in this section

[dapper laurel]

No, still 15

[shy summit]

I’m an Atheist

[pallid zealot]

Indonesia

[pallid zealot]

Yeah I know, I joined your VC awhile back

[shy summit]

Their holy texts say otherwise? From where I’m sitting they have as much reliability as the Gospel.

[dapper laurel]

Well, I'm agnostic, I'm studying the bible and gospels, and I can tell you that a "prophet" Jesus does not exist

[shy summit]

By Prophet I mean a messenger

[pallid zealot]

You don't even study your religion correctly

[shy summit]

A messenger carrying the word of god

[dapper laurel]

If you say so

[dapper laurel]

Well, yes, but Jesus in Christianity is also God

[shy summit]

Yea he is. Just not in Islam

[dapper laurel]

Therefore, defining him as a prophet disproves all of Christianity, but not defining him as a prophet does not disprove all of Islam

[pallid zealot]

The Muslims have 25 prophets or apostles, including Adam, Moses, Abraham, David, Noah, Solomon, Jesus, and the last is Muhammad, if you can't accept others people opinion you're being ignorant I guess

[shy summit]

Yea but thats because Muslims don’t believe in Christianity? I mean I would think that goes without saying

[dapper laurel]

No, that sentence was simply intended to disprove Christianity, otherwise why specify that he was a prophet?

[real monolith]

How old are you?

[shy summit]

Yes but understand it was a term of cultural deference

They were giving respect to a religious figure even if they can’t accept worship of him

It was the respect their faith allows and for that you shouldn’t be offended

[dapper laurel]

Well, yes, it may be probable, but I would never start saying that Jesus is the only Lord and Savior, this would contradict or conflict with other religions

[pallid zealot]

He was intended to carry the word of God, but was betrayed by Judas instead, before he was crucified, The God made Judas resembles Jesus, and take Jesus to heaven instead, then he will descend to earth again to kill the antichrist as a messiah

[shy summit]

You must not know many Catholics…. 😅 they all say that….

Like literally

All of them

[real monolith]

Right

[shy summit]

Never mind that the faiths are literally incompatible ….

Respect was given take it instead of whining that more was not given

[pallid zealot]

I am okay if you regard Jesus as a lord and saviour, but you have ignorance to accept Muslims opinion

[dapper laurel]

well, I can accept it, but at the same time I will expect them to accept the opinion of a Christian when he says "Jesus is the only Lord and Savior"

[shy summit]

How do you accept contradicting doctines

[dapper laurel]

Just as they say that Jesus was a prophet, Christians can say whatever they want about Muhammad

It would be a good compromise for freedom of speech

[pallid zealot]

So you're planning to create another religion? Go then if you don't want to be regarded as heretics by both the Christian and Muslims, and If you are going to create a new religion, you must become a prophet, and others will ended up saying you are psychotic or delusional, because both Christianity and Muslims didn't have new prophet after the last one

[pallid zealot]

So, claiming Jesus is a prophet doesn't count as freedom of speech?

[dapper laurel]

Yes, it counts

[pallid zealot]

Or it is was "freedom of speech for certain people" all along

[dapper laurel]

I said I will accept it, if Christians can also have freedom of speech about Islam

Are you blind mate?

[pallid zealot]

English is not my first language mate, I am still learning about compromise

[shy summit]

You can say whatever here as long it remains in good faith.

[prisma cipher]

Just excuse

[pallid zealot]

Neyro I really don't know compromise

[shy summit]

Thats why I muted that one guy earlier, he came to insult not to talk

[pallid zealot]

Which one mate?

[shy summit]

H1 dude

[dapper laurel]

Well, I'm sorry if so

[real monolith]

Hello

[pallid zealot]

Umar let's have a thoughtful and well mannered discussions

[real monolith]

Yeah, of course

[pallid zealot]

Because personal hatred doesn't count as requirements for healthy debate

[prisma cipher]

Why I can't hate people

[real monolith]

You can if you want

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-thankyou-enough-gif-6841212421036103995

[real monolith]

As long it doesn’t affect others

[pallid zealot]

You could, but is not advisable

[prisma cipher]

Don't know what mean advisable, so I read it like I could.

[pallid zealot]

Like for me I don't hate Israeli but I hate Zionism

In my religion, if you have arrogance in your heart, you are not worthy of salvation and enter the paradise

Only those with pure heart, good deeds to even small animals, are worthy to enter paradise, because those with pure heart, will avoid them from doing anything evil

[real monolith]

Which religion do you follow?

[pallid zealot]

Islam

[real monolith]

Okay

[wooden pendant]

but why did god made those emotions

if he wanted people without them then why make it?

[wooden pendant]

except pigs and dogs and humans of course

[pallid zealot]

He made it to trials humanity, I said only those with can refuse the influence of hatred, are worthy of salvation, heavens are not a place to be tainted with evil people

[pallid zealot]

We are not allowed to harm dogs or pigs for no reasons

[wooden pendant]

but why test humans why is there really a need for it why play such a cruel joke first make us then put us in this world and then test us and then punish and award us like really a plaything we are

[pallid zealot]

I dunno bro, I am not a God, and I can't act like Him

It falls to the knowledge of the unseen

Do you have religion?

[past musk]

yes

catholic

[pallid zealot]

I was talking to zed

[past musk]

oh sorry

[pallid zealot]

God is a higher being a deity, a mere human mind can't comprehend of what He was planning

[wooden pendant]

yes i follow dinkoinism

[pallid zealot]

Part of Hinduism?

[wooden pendant]

nah its another religion

@livid blade Lord DInkan 🙏

[livid blade]

I have been summoned

[pallid zealot]

They're atheist who parodied the religions

Their intention is to destroy religions, from their intention, they're not worthy for engaging discussion with

[pallid zealot]

I will divert my attention to more important matters

[livid blade]

I don't think you need atheists to parody religion

[wooden pendant]

so people cant have different opinions if they are believers there has to be non-belivers

and since god gave me the test

im perfectly failing in it

[livid blade]

Ah yes, the true love I dream of will blackmail me too, just like our dear God

[real monolith]

Don't you guys have anything to talk about other than religion?

[livid blade]

What would you like to talk about?

[real monolith]

Geography or history or mystery

[livid blade]

Any specific topic?

[real monolith]

I don’t have anything in my mind rn. Maybe you could tell us some weird facts or something

[wooden pendant]

spread of religion

[livid blade]

You came here, of your own volition, and complained about the topic of discussion
But you don't have any better topics to suggest?
If you wanted to read facts about something that interests you, go to Google

[real monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-break-gif-6269967204638541467

[wooden pendant]

talk about the similarities between religion like the gods name the flood story etc

[real monolith]

I didn't complain, I questioned.

[livid blade]

Which country are you from? I'll tell you an interesting fact about it

[real monolith]

India

We will talk about What ifs

What if humans were nocturnal?🤔

[livid blade]

Here's an interesting fact: 1 in 3 married women in India are abused by their husbands

The actual numbers are probably higher

[real monolith]

💀

[wooden pendant]

galti kar di isko serios me lakar

😔

[real monolith]

I am used to listening to this fact
Tell me anything new

[livid blade]

80-90% of rapes are committed by someone already known to the victim.

You can't keep women safe from rape by shutting them inside the house.

[real monolith]

.

[wooden pendant]

delete kar deta hun

pata chala mujhse hi lad liya

[golden sphinx]

Damn

it's english srv why ya'll speaking urdu

[livid blade]

Half of all female homicides (murder of a female) in India is the result of a dowry dispute

[livid blade]

Damn
Why are you playing hall monitor

[livid blade]

Alright fine
I'll leave

[main bison]

I cant believe Islam is getting update in america and we still have the 1400 old version in middle east
I saw gay muslims protesting in america and Europe

[manic juniper]

Saunaklonkku

[manic juniper]

Yes in Finland we have mosques with rainbow flags outside 🌈🏳️‍🌈

[main bison]

Sobhanallah

[wooden pendant]

the very main flex of islam is its never been curropted

unlike christianity

so that's why they will not let it change or they'll lose one big flex

[manic juniper]

Didn't they do that already, it was standardised after some time and before that there were variants like the Sanaa manuscript

[lavish creek]

Siberia is beautiful

[pallid zealot]

You could get froze there

[lavish creek]

Watch out your words or next time I will not defend you from our Chinese policymaker