🧠｜serious-chat

[shy summit]

Slime Rancher

[turbid harbor]

whats a slime rancher

[lavish creek]

Let us make one for you

Are you malalayam or Tamil ?

[shy summit]

No idea unless its an inuendo

:3

[lavish creek]

You don't like hindutva that's why I'm assuming you are from the south

[manic juniper]

She's not Indian

[turbid harbor]

i looked it up and its a videogame

[manic juniper]

It's a game where you take care of slime beings

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-statue-smile-solo-leveling-statue-smile-gif-2074285987229653283

[manic juniper]

It's one of those cozy games people like to play

[lavish creek]

Hmmm

Chinese then, right ?

[shy summit]

It has another darker meaning too that shall not be mentioned

[manic juniper]

I don't like Hindutvas either and I'm not even Asian

Nationalism is cringe

[shy summit]

B A S E D

btw anyone else watch the debate last night?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[turbid harbor]

is he fixed on my shared universal hatred of hindutvas to figure out where im from 😭

[turbid harbor]

i didnt i only saw tweets

[shy summit]

Harris Destroyed Trump’s Butthole in that debate

[manic juniper]

It was a pretty mid debate, but I guess it had to be more civilised this time

[turbid harbor]

but yeah kamala's definitely secured a dominant voterbase

[lavish creek]

Ig the biggest issue with hindutva is not nationalism

[manic juniper]

And Trump repeated many points because I guess she doesn't have enough drama to be attacked for unlike Biden

[turbid harbor]

the haitian thing was very unhinged though

[lavish creek]

No no, there is no need to share if you don't want to

[shy summit]

Trump doesn’t have a good track record with women

Cheating on them Raping them, Libeling/Slandering them.

Belittling them

[turbid harbor]

both want the imperial core to stand and spread widely regardless, the other's just strategically pro choice

for all intents and purposes im a third worldist

there he is

[feral river]

I wonder how you can just disrespect one's sovereighty that seems doesn't matter to you

there's no Kurdistan in this world

[manic juniper]

But there is

[feral river]

all alleged kurdish region is under other sovereighty states

[manic juniper]

There are two in fact

[feral river]

it's not a sovereighty state

[manic juniper]

Still has the name Kurdistan

[feral river]

Kurdistan clique of rebellion forces against Turkish ?

I agree with that

[lavish creek]

Well was there China in time of humiliation?

[feral river]

but Kurdish state, no

[feral river]

yes century of humiliation we all know that

[lavish creek]

Ig you call areas with predominantly Chinese people under Japan control China, right ?

[feral river]

well that's literally under a puppet government by Japan or you can say that's a government

[lavish creek]

Kurdistan doesn't actually even tacit sovereign state, just regions with predominantly Kurdish ppl

[feral river]

but later it was turned back to our land

[feral river]

under other sovereighty state for sure

[lavish creek]

There are Kurdish regions in Iran Iraq and Syria

[feral river]

population is not the factor you can choose whether it's a sovereign or not.

[feral river]

yeah they are all minorities in those sovereighty states

[lavish creek]

Some with huge autonomy actually

[shy summit]

First and formost its a cultural and ethnic name for a region.

[feral river]

make a lot of sense

[feral river]

so you mean that's not a state ? you mean Kurdistan ?

[shy summit]

Its not a state

[feral river]

oh okay, then my bad I misunderstood this

[lavish creek]

But should be .

[feral river]

should never be

[lavish creek]

Sorry not sorry .

[shy summit]

They think so at least

Whether or not they have an independence day is up to them

[manic juniper]

Why did Trump keep repeating "hundreds of millions/billions" every 2 minutes

[dense agate]

dramatic effects lel

[feral river]

they can't independent as they wished

[lavish creek]

It's not about what these countries wish

[dense agate]

i like how he started saying Haitian migrants eating cats and dogs from parks haha

[feral river]

like you can't declare other people's property as yours

[feral river]

idk those states use kurdish fight against each other

[shy summit]

1776 motherfucker

[lavish creek]

They have us support and huge demography in turkey

[manic juniper]

I do that all the times, they have to kick me out if they dislike it

[feral river]

iran use them, iraq use them, turkey use them, american use them

I don't see there's a chance they can have their own force to kick out all of those guys then declare independence

[shy summit]

Foreign aid most likely

[feral river]

if you have enough guns

[lavish creek]

Can't you understand that they think it's their property(lands)?

[feral river]

yeah you can do that literally

[lavish creek]

As Chinese did 100 y a

[manic juniper]

They could, USA helped Kosovo and Kuwait maintain or achieve independence

[dense agate]

idk about iran and iraq using them, turkey doesn't, USA did provide them with weapons and training to help fight ISIS

[feral river]

well they can think, I would say but what it will be is not gonna be what you are thinking to

[manic juniper]

So why can't someone help Kurds get their own country

[feral river]

you think you have guns ? iraqi also have that, turkey have that, iran have more

[lavish creek]

As Chinese ppl used to fight each other?

[dense agate]

Syrian kurds are protect for the time being, american bases are around their locations which upsets the Turks since they can't just attack them

[feral river]

hummm wym ? you mean chinese civil war ?

[lavish creek]

U see how much analogy one can find here

[dense agate]

Kurds do meet much of the Montevideo criteria of what makes a state, what they lack is more international recognition

[feral river]

turkey just took a piece of land from syria by using excuses to fight against kurd terrorists

iraq promised kurds in iran-iraqi war

iran used kurds in iraqi-iran war

then america asked kurds against ISIS

after the war they don't give a shit anymore

that's what they do

[dense agate]

they're sending soldiers along their Turkish-Syrian border because of these armed Kurds.
militant kurish groups have been a big problem for Turkey for a while, just look up the PKK

[lavish creek]

They formed an almost independent state in the north of Iraq

[feral river]

yeah, I understood their concern on national security... kurds are just a huge problem to turkey state

[feral river]

well that's not a sovereighty state, and it's not independent literally

[dense agate]

a Kurdish state is bad news not only for Turkey but Syria, Iraq and Iran

[feral river]

yeah so I think that can't be exist

they also doesn't have power to be exist

[lavish creek]

It's literally what English word state means

[dense agate]

it's not entirely impossible for a state to exist between countries that seek it's destruction, just look at Israel

[shy summit]

“A New Challenger Approaches”

[feral river]

well Israel kinda won the war 4 times I think that's different

[lavish creek]

Why do you hate Kurdish ppl lol

[feral river]

you can change everything if you beat everyone up

[lavish creek]

They are doing good in the north of Syria and Iraq

[dense agate]

yes, with adequate support, weapons and training it can happen

[dense agate]

yea Kurdish group did impressive work against ISIS.

that's why the US just kept weaponizing them instead of fighting them themselves

[feral river]

just like there is no anticipation on whether China is gotta interfere the Korean war or not cuz we just ended the civil war, and we interfered, so north korea exists till now

you can literally change everything if you have enough force to beat everyone's ass

unfortunately most country doesn't have that

[dense agate]

he could be biased about it or might just have the classic Chinse stand against all separatist movements in the world (in despise of Taiwan)

[lavish creek]

And their protostate is also pretty impressive

[shy summit]

Yeah thanks for that you made a dictorship that everyone is annoyed with

[lavish creek]

National minority right, women right etc

[feral river]

that's our neutral buffer state

we don't need a special military operation to have one

[lavish creek]

Parliament, in which the speaker is a woman

[feral river]

neutral, buffer state

playing nukes in their ground, we don't care

just be there so americans won't annoy us

[shy summit]

Neutral? They threaten war against everyone

[feral river]

not me lol

I even been to North Korea they are so damn poor

[lavish creek]

Well he calls people whom others used to call separatists 100 ya heroes, patriots and anti-colonial fighters

[feral river]

btw I shouldn't have said that I'm in South Korea now

[dense agate]

hardcore communism be like

[feral river]

maybe police is gonna knock my door

[dense agate]

no worries, South korea isn't as authoritarian as China

[feral river]

🤣 well... if you say something about how North Korea great is, you will get in trouble

[shy summit]

South Korea is separate from China

[lavish creek]

For calling north Korea poor?

[feral river]

they have such rule in here

[shy summit]

North Korea? Its a literal crazy ass dictatorship

[feral river]

yeah as you said that's a dictatorship but they are working well for our interests

[lavish creek]

You mean worker's heaven which works

[feral river]

like Israeli are doing good for you guys

[lavish creek]

Without all this stupid democracy stuff

[shy summit]

Israel isn’t doing anyone any good at this point tbh

[lavish creek]

Not for me

[feral river]

dude admit it, that's your only proxy in middle east

you screw israel, Russia and islamic terrorist screw you

[lavish creek]

I strongly 2 state solution and against Likud or any other radicals

[feral river]

you can't find another american proxy in the middle east after the cold war

only isreal

they must support israel with no hesitation

and they do

they do more veto for israel than themselves

they sold advance weapons to israel that they don't sold to europeans

they connive israeli to develop nuclear weapons

[lavish creek]

Well ig no one likes it

[dense agate]

they really showed how much things can change when you take two similar groups of people and put them in totally different political and economic systems

[lavish creek]

So called paleoconservatives neither

[dense agate]

do you know what proxy means ?

[feral river]

yeah ofc I know that

proxy state, proxy war

[shy summit]

Russia? A threat?

[feral river]

im a freaking cold war expert dude

[feral river]

holy crap 😭

[shy summit]

Countries that are an actual threat don’t lose gas 50 miles over the border

[feral river]

btw I know Russia is weak now but don't be like this

🤣

[dense agate]

this is so not true, the US didn't even support israel having nuclear bombs.
they were only aware about it after US intelligence found strong evidence to support israeli nuclear program is being built in the 60s

[dense agate]

wow that's totally what it means

[manic juniper]

I don't think Russia could challenge USA even if it controlled all of Africa and Asia, their industry seems very inefficient

[dense agate]

idk i take this minecraft dude as a pro-CCP troller

[manic juniper]

Maybe they could start a nuclear war

[dense agate]

yea, they won't be able to compete economically but they got nukes so...

[feral river]

im definitely not pro-ccp dude

I focus on the truth, on what the real work CCP is doing

I criticize them when they are messing up, I praise them when they are doing a good job

[shy summit]

👁️👄👁️

[lavish creek]

What kind of criticism

Can you say 3 things they are doing bad rn

[shy summit]

I don’t think he’s ever done that here that I’ve seen

[turbid harbor]

he doesnt troll

[feral river]

covid

their freaking lockdown led by stupid leftist CCP officials damaged economy heavily

then speech control and regulations

[lavish creek]

Well

Can you now name people who are responsible for that ?

[feral river]

I forgot the certain year maybe it's 2020 every online platforms allows user to comment required to display the IP address of that user

which means if your IP is from Beijing, it will display that your IP address is in Beijing

[lavish creek]

Minecraft

[feral river]

that was enforced for no reason they just want to enforce it

I don't like this type of shit

and more regulation on customs

[lavish creek]

So Xi is responsible for stupid lockdown and economic problems, right?

[feral river]

they sometimes ask you some stupid question like where are you going, are you going back or something

[feral river]

ofc he's in accountable to this

[lavish creek]

Who else

Names

[feral river]

those stupid leftist officials

[lavish creek]

I'm sure they have names

[feral river]

Liqiang

Caiqi

one's the former secretary of the Shanghai

one's the former secretary of the Beijing

they all promoted into cabinet

actually we have some resistance against CCP zero covid policy in the mainland

many people unhappy about this

[lavish creek]

So Li Qiang is a bad administrator and not doing his job good, right?

[feral river]

hummm, well hard to say, he's the only one want to stop the zero covid policy in China at that time

he want Shanghai to be the first city stop it

but some other officials criticize him: not enforcing the command from the central government

and the situation becomes, city shut down for 1 month, but he's not planned with that he don't know his city shutted

everyone doesn't have any time to buy any necessarities

and city finally reopened after 2 months

many people died, many people walking on the street say, Xi jinping step down

that's the real case happened in Shanghai

numerous cases happened in different places

he's mind is on the right way, but he's policy and actions is totally screwed up

that pandemic really affected a lot on our economy

even some people in China say that's from america, america used biological weapons on China

don't think he really have the supreme authority, he's just a general secretary for these years or this era of rule in China by CCP

also I have watched that debate with our former translator of Deng, like what he says the Chinese consitution amend frequently and every leader is being wrote into the consitution anyway, I just feel like who cares

you can't even figure out the state or the party which is on the higher ground

[lavish creek]

It's western minded, here I'm agree

Constitutionalcentrism let's call it

[supple kettle]

yo

[rose eagle]

Your profile pic look like metal gear solid peace walker

[quasi needle]

you will be murked in war

[shy summit]

It amends frequently cause a handful of people can change it on a whim, which defeats the purpose of a constitution

So every time you say “Our constitution says this!” You’ve now undermined the solidarity of each of those claims

[dense agate]

oh wow, serious critical thinker who gives the CCP a slap on the hand whenever they misbehave.
you do realize CCP is an authoritarian regime, many freedoms and liberties have already been compromised from the get go, everything else you say is just hardcore copium

[dense agate]

oh yea, MGS peace walker

[shy summit]

[manic juniper]

He openly supports authoritarianism

[shy summit]

And genocide, don’t forget that

[manic juniper]

I don't think he openly supports that, he finds excuses or blames it on some extremists which is wrong but it's different from his other ideals

[shy summit]

🤷‍♂️

[quasi needle]

he openly ignores its existence and blames our knowledge of it on western propaganda

[feral river]

I would say some westerners are too focus on what we don't really care about, for instance we don't give much attention to what party really grant us to some specific fields on regarding to civil liberty and freedom.

and what are really Chinese citizens cares more living condition than anything you could imagine, we don't care if party is doing something against certain group, but we do care if what we are living a place that the rice or salt raise 10% price, we will question the legitmate of the CCP's rule.

even me, some people in China call me a pro-west because I do care privacies, freedom, but in current situation I would say we already have all the freedom we required.

remember no matter it's a democratic regime or authoritarian regime, it must gain the majority's support to accomplish any achievements, that's why CCP very care about the popularity in China even it's one-party rules

it will directly affect the effectiveness of the rule by the party

[manic juniper]

Pretty standard

[true lark]

Hello, what's the current topic

[feral river]

I said a lot of times, you can't even figure out between the state and the party of which is above the another, what's the point to extract the word from consititutions then ?

[manic juniper]

The CCP from the Chinese citizens' perspective

[true lark]

Okay

Can anyone summarise what's already been discussed for me?

[dapper laurel]

It would piss me off to see someone telling me what freedom really is and how I should behave towards my government

[feral river]

my opinion is always make a clear view on democracies and authoritarians and objectively evaluate them

not praise one and said another one is shit ass

[manic juniper]

Some of them misunderstand and believe that you're denying its authoritarian nature

[shy summit]

“we don’t care if the party is doing something against a certain group,”

Bro you need not say another word lmao

[feral river]

not really they just don't like me so they want to have a war against me or they think, I'm a representitive of CCP

I don't care if you want to have a text war

[manic juniper]

If you scroll up you can see that they're trying to expose the CCP's authoritarian nature to you despite you knowing it already

[feral river]

zero terrorist attack against China, such a good job

[manic juniper]

I could write Minecraft's political manifesto and I don't even agree with him

[dapper laurel]

Maybe it's their business? Why do we have to play at being the world's police?

[feral river]

yeah I already knew that they are becoming more authoritarian when Xi's came to power

I know all of these stuff, I live in China

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/elontolinette-linettelopez-idiot-idiotsandwich-idiot-sandwich-linette-lopez-gif-20625838

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China

“Zero Terrorism Against China,” my ass

Stop lying

[feral river]

no terrorist attack after Xinjiang camps

I would say, LMAO

what a good job for keep those terrorist in camps

even my friend work there

[manic juniper]

Were they set up after 2016?

[feral river]

2017

I guess ? if I remember it was the right year

[shy summit]

You mean the Genocide effort

[feral river]

my friend work there and he earn up to 4000 USD per month

[shy summit]

🙂

I see, good to know your friend is complicit in genocide

[feral river]

we usually see each other and he even invites me to Xinjiang to have a vacation

I enjoy my time in Xinjiang

[rose eagle]

Maiden in heavennn

[shy summit]

Ah yes, enjoying paddling in the wailing cries of minorities as they are violated physically, sexually and religiously

[feral river]

zero terrorist attack after camps really triggered bro

cuz you guys being attacked too much

[manic juniper]

That was some quick action

[feral river]

and do nothing ?

🤣

btw why accusing us we help you guys counter-terrorism

hey hey hey @shy summit we are together to counter-terrorism

why kept accusing us ?

[shy summit]

Accusing? No no no hun, I’m talking about the genocide in china

The fact

Not the allegation

The fact

[feral river]

how is that fact ? the camps ?

the camps keeps terrorists in there is genocide ?

so let them out is not genocide ?

I don't think you wanna get bomb ass up

[shy summit]

Your definition of terrorist is concerning

[feral river]

not really that's literally in the definition

and it worked

the point is it worked

[shy summit]

By ethnically cleansing the population

[feral river]

actually I don't care that much but only it worked

[shy summit]

Not a good thing

[feral river]

I agree but we didn't do that

[shy summit]

Stop talking

Right now

No stop typing

[feral river]

we are carrying out which guy is threating the Chinese national security

and we arrest them

[shy summit]

You are gonna stop downplaying this

[feral river]

after this, we had 0 terrorist attack

[shy summit]

Or you’re just gonna stop talking about it

Do you understand me?

[feral river]

ok

let's drop that

[shy summit]

Good because I’m stop standing for this anymore.

[feral river]

well that's normal we have different opinions on these things, you are from america I'm from China we both see the another state is enemy

so kinda make sense

[lavish creek]

Well imagine South Korea or US treat Chinese ppl in their countries the same way coz among them might be some Chinese spies

[feral river]

ahhhh make sense but they don't need to do that really

[shy summit]

??? I’m not that paranoid

[dapper laurel]

War is over

[feral river]

we are still having relationships like cooperation between US and China

we don't really need to be like in war

[lavish creek]

Well, as I said, imagine

[feral river]

well that's possible, if war happened

not surprised

[lavish creek]

Or china starting war against Taiwan

[feral river]

bro can't wait to cook this 🤣

[lavish creek]

And the west is starting to bring Chinese ppl in camps

Coz for God sake who knows

[dapper laurel]

Or the Chinese people could start revolutions in Western countries

[feral river]

yeah just like this or I would just say we have freedom of eating ?

I mean eat dogs

[dapper laurel]

Eat them

EAT THEM

[feral river]

I'm in Korea 😭

[manic juniper]

This happened

[dapper laurel]

Right now, I want you to eat a live dog

[lavish creek]

With Japanese

I know

[quasi needle]

blatant lie 💀

[manic juniper]

They interned any Japanese-looking Asian, so Chines and Filipinos too

[dapper laurel]

How's it going with the "California girls"?

[feral river]

global terrorism database, make a lot of sense

[feral river]

freaked

[quasi needle]

ah yes. get proven wrong so you diminish the globally accepted source! classic!

[feral river]

now it's september, no high waves

[quasi needle]

I don’t like it so it must be wrong

[feral river]

everything getting boring as fuck

[dapper laurel]

Wdym?

[dense agate]

almost everyone one way or another cares about their economical situation (food prices, health, education,...) since it plays a major rule in quality of life, but so do freedoms and liberties, they're very crucial when it comes to innovation, expressing their concerns and holding government accountable, which literally impacts the country's long-term impact.

[lavish creek]

What dog is tasting like ?

[dense agate]

in similar authoritarian systems like the CCP, the lack of transparency and suppression of dissent means we may never fully understand or address problems like corruption or power abuse.
True democracies give people the right to freely express their opinions and challenge their leaders, which helps us ensure better governance.

[manic juniper]

True

[feral river]

well the mixture of mutton and beef, I mean the fishy smell from mutton with the taste like of the beef

it's damn delicious I would say

but a little bit expensive

[quasi needle]

corruption in china is used by those who are actually corrupt (the leadership) to remove dissidents

[dapper laurel]

Now I'm curious to taste it

[quasi needle]

“they’re corrupt, get them out!” ~ says the corrupt ccp member

[feral river]

yeah true but it will expose a possibility of exploiting by misinformation and propaganda by enemies, so make it accountable would be the best choice

[dense agate]

the fact you say you're looking at this objectively and are okay with the government(which you have no say on electing it) can take a citizen just like you, place them inside a concentration camp without even having a fair trial or proof of anything, just means you either have a hole in your logic or you're being dishonest

[dapper laurel]

Do you eat a specific breed of dog or are they all fine?

[quasi needle]

how do you make a limitless government accountable

[feral river]

we must control any part of messages we can do, then filter them, to provide freedom on what certain fields of messages we need to

[dense agate]

that's like saying we should ban cars because car accidents can happen

[lavish creek]

It's literally just a legitimation for purges

[quasi needle]

precisely

it’s flipped around

[feral river]

yeah just like this, we should ban guns because gun violence can happen

a typical case

[lavish creek]

Minecraft, have you ever tried a mouse or bat ?

[feral river]

that's dangrous for your health and disgusting

[dense agate]

that's a false equivalence

[manic juniper]

What about lab rats?

[quasi needle]

atrocious point

[feral river]

we should ban cars because car accidents can happen, we should ban guns because gun violence can happen

[quasi needle]

car accidents == shootings

[feral river]

not really false, the form of sentence is actually the same

[lavish creek]

Well disgusting is relate thing

For many people eating a dog is disgusting

[dense agate]

you are aware almost everything can has their pros and cons, and they happen at different ratios

[manic juniper]

Someone on a car could go on a rampage too

[dense agate]

should we ban the internet because CP exists ?

[quasi needle]

you’re not equalizing two forms of mistakes, you’re comparing acts consciously made by an individual to accidents

[dapper laurel]

I would try them, they are proteins for the bulk season

[feral river]

yes, and some pro we can just get rid of it to avoid possible to get messed with cons

[dense agate]

or should we ban baths and showers since drowning exists

[feral river]

that's called risk control

[quasi needle]

which isn’t what he is talking about

[feral river]

I won't gamb for 1% possibility of win

[manic juniper]

I'm saying that banning them is as justified as banning guns

[quasi needle]

ban paper because of paper cuts

[feral river]

a simple sample

[quasi needle]

no it’s not by any means

[manic juniper]

Why not

[quasi needle]

vehicles are required for the economy to operate

[dense agate]

if the possibility of having a single con is enough to make all the pros negligible, then why don't you advocate for banning the CCP

[quasi needle]

guns are not

[manic juniper]

Not all vehicles are cars

[feral river]

I have no idea on what you are talking about

[quasi needle]

fallacy detected

[dense agate]

but you're already doing it

[feral river]

since I got a party is normally working everyone's satisfied with their life

why would I need to change one

[quasi needle]

everyone?

everyone is satisfied?

[dapper laurel]

And all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs

[quasi needle]

tell that to the uyghurs

[feral river]

not really lol

[dense agate]

your existence is inherently a gamble, with all the potential diseases and health issues that you have no control over

[lavish creek]

We can't ever know that

[feral river]

terrorists is not satisfied and it should not be

[dense agate]

crossing the road is a gamble

[manic juniper]

I don't understand why banning cars only is controversial now, in countries where guns are banned the army and police still use them

[quasi needle]

so uyghurs are terrorists for living their life. glad to see you have no moral values

[lavish creek]

There are no elections and independent public opinion pull

[feral river]

but I know that, I live in China I have a bunch of friends, I do sex with my sex partner, I have money to go anywhere I want

[lavish creek]

Well we have seen protests there

In Hong Kong

[quasi needle]

go to a uyghur concentration camp and tell me they’re guilty

[feral river]

now I'm in South Korea having 3 months vacation while studying

[dense agate]

nice source

[feral river]

in July I was in Japan

[quasi needle]

uh oh you can’t

[feral river]

and last year I was in Singapore

every year I go outside of China for vacation

and I meet my friend across the China mainland

[manic juniper]

Did you ever visit Taiwan?

[lavish creek]

It's your bubble mate

[feral river]

almost every major city in China I have visited

[quasi needle]

89% of taiwanese people don’t want to be in china, why do you insist they join?

[feral river]

nope now I'm getting much on american stocks

[quasi needle]

it’s another lack of moral pronciples

[dense agate]

try tiananmen square next, i hear it's very historically relevant

[feral river]

this year gonna invest some money than waste them on stupid stuff

[quasi needle]

same with tibet

[dapper laurel]

However, in my opinion, banning weapons is wrong and undermines the freedom of the individual

[quasi needle]

it’s a lackluster and pointless argument

[lavish creek]

Something happened there ¿

[manic juniper]

Did you not consider it for the future?

[feral river]

maybe but I will visit Israel, Australia and America first

[dense agate]

something something tank
something something person standing

[feral river]

ah I know that

[manic juniper]

Same, difference between cars and guns isn't that big

[quasi needle]

cars are a basis of individualism, independence, ease of travel and utility

banning them is unjustified

[lavish creek]

Did the party say something about it? If not it's a lie

[dense agate]

difference isn't that big between them when it comes to what ?

[manic juniper]

Same for guns, you can hardly kill a deer without one, bows are the same as guns for the sake of this argument

[feral river]

idk what you are talking about Taiwanese people

that doesn't exist lol

[dense agate]

they said Error 404 : nothing happened that day

[manic juniper]

Individual liberties, being dangerous for the public if misused, having to pass an exam to own one

[quasi needle]

congratulations on having no empathy. disgusting

[feral river]

there's only Chinese people in Taiwan

[dapper laurel]

I could commit a massacre with a car or with a rifle, It doesn't matter

[lavish creek]

I trust them

[quasi needle]

you’re a vile person

[dense agate]

maybe keep an eye on the window next time you're flying on a plane

[feral river]

that's not what I have said

[manic juniper]

Exactly my point, you can go on a rampage with a car and run over everyone

[quasi needle]

learn some basic geography buddy. maybe you’ll learn some things for once

taiwanese people are gladly independent from your disgusting oppression

[manic juniper]

He's right, ethnically they are Chinese and consider themselves as such

[feral river]

legalize Tanks

LEGALIZE TANKS

[manic juniper]

My best friend is Taiwanese, if you ask her what's her ethnicity she'll say Chinese or Han

[feral river]

Freedom! 🇺🇸

[dapper laurel]

Exactly, or I could place an explosive in a car and make it explode 🤷🏼

[manic juniper]

Chinese can be an ethnicity or a nationality just like Russian

[quasi needle]

ethnically they are asian

[dense agate]

but it's not totally wrong to ban things that are harmful to the public, we already do this with regulations, for food for example

[feral river]

America need more freedom, legalize tanks!

[manic juniper]

lol no, ethnicities can be much more specific than that

[dapper laurel]

I want to drive a tank and take down my school

[quasi needle]

please don’t ignore the graph right above proving my point

[manic juniper]

That's why I think that cars deserve to be regulated just as much as guns

[feral river]

good proposal good luck man

[quasi needle]

balance utility against the cons. basic common sense

[dapper laurel]

Just how Soviet tanks did with the Lithuanian Parliament

[quasi needle]

the accidents are meaningless compared to the improvements of cars

[feral river]

no you need more individual freedom, legalize tanks

[lavish creek]

There are indigenous folk + there are no Chinese ethnicity

[feral river]

you need that, that's freedom!

[lavish creek]

Maybe you mean Han ethnicity

[manic juniper]

Guns have utility, how else do you hunt without one

[feral river]

btw that's cool if they really legalized tanks I'm gonna try one

[quasi needle]

exactly, that’s why im a staunch supporter of accessible yet restricted arms

[dense agate]

but they are already, we have many rules and guidelines that everyone must follow like seatbelts, yearly checkups, license, traffic lights....
but banning them isn't ideal since they are an essential thing for modern life.

[manic juniper]

In case you don't know, many Chinese people themselves wrongly or rightly call their language and ethnicity "Chinese" at times instead of Mandarin or Han

[dapper laurel]

Are you hunting?

[feral river]

dude tanks also has utility

[dapper laurel]

I've always wanted to do it

[feral river]

even more useful than guns

[manic juniper]

Yes I massacre those stupid invasive American beavers

More than hunting it's a targeted omnicide

Castorocide if you will

[dense agate]

i think as a chinsese you have more chances of standing in front of one on the street than driving it

[quasi needle]

freedom of the individual is to live life as they choose as long as it doesn’t oppress or negatively affect others. citizens in my country can drive tanks as long as they can’t kill people with the tank

[dapper laurel]

Make a hat out of their skin

[quasi needle]

💀💀

[feral river]

im not that stupid 🤣 only stupid people in there

[manic juniper]

I would like to if I could

[lavish creek]

Well it doesn't matter, right ?

[dense agate]

do what ? nothing happened that day

[feral river]

yeah so ban guns it negatively affect others, see how many gun shot cases in america

[manic juniper]

You can have more widespread public transportation networks, my country has both

[feral river]

for example Chicago

[lavish creek]

If Turkish people call themselves ethnicity Turkic people it doesn't make sense

[dapper laurel]

Or try to have one stuffed and display it at home as a war trophy

[quasi needle]

In case you don’t know, the graph just above states that almost 90% of taiwanese residents consider themselves taiwanese while those who consider themselves chinese are decreasing rapidly

[feral river]

people were died in Tiananmen square at that day

[manic juniper]

my point is that their culture can't be separated from them, in fact they care about their history much more than Chinese mainlanders do. Taiwan truly is the real China

[dense agate]

are you like hinting at complete reliance on public transport ?

[dense agate]

keep nitpicking

[manic juniper]

Didn't know that 60% was close to 90%

[quasi needle]

guns do not inherently affect others negatively without cause. they affect others negatively when provoked, which is the whole point of them, defense of the user

my country hasn’t had a mass shooting since guns were heavily restricted, you can still have them but you need to be worthy of them

[manic juniper]

Yes, I already do that for the most part

And I live in a village of 300 people, I need to travel to the closest city that is over 90 km away almost everyday

[feral river]

tanks do not inherently affect others negatively without cause. they affect others negatively when provoked, which is the whole point of them, defense of the user

[dense agate]

naah, CCP won't commit murder on it's own citizens no matter what, their well being is CCP's top priority

[lavish creek]

Damn

[feral river]

I'm not a CCP member why would I care

[lavish creek]

You sure you are not American ?

[manic juniper]

I use public transportation so no

[quasi needle]

wrong, 30% (both) + 60% (taiwanese)

[manic juniper]

It they identify as both it doesn't hold the same value

My best friend identifies as both because she's Chinese of Taiwanese nationality

[dense agate]

surprising, in most villages around the world there is lack of serious transport infrastructure

[quasi needle]

it means they do not consider themselves of the same chase as the mainland chinese

[manic juniper]

Yeah no one thinks that, I know

[dapper laurel]

Public 🏳️‍⚧️portation 🔛🔝

[quasi needle]

your one friend is not relative proportionality

[dense agate]

it was hard to notice you're not pro CCP after all this copy-paste agenda you've been doing

[quasi needle]

supporter, not a member

it’s the work of all that propaganda

[manic juniper]

She's a good window to their world, ethnically they identify with the same culture because it's cool and their country is full of temples and history, obviously they don't associate with the other country

[dense agate]

lel, maybe that's why right wingers hate public 🏳️‍⚧️ portation

[quasi needle]

case closed, they do not identify with the mainland chinese, they are independent, they exist

[manic juniper]

It's not different than ethnic minorities with a nationality

[manic juniper]

Where did I deny that

Taiwan is the real China, if you visit it you will realise

[dapper laurel]

They hate everything except their own group of people 😭😭

[manic juniper]

In Taiwan people pray in the temples and don't try to sell you souvenirs right outside it

[quasi needle]

when you stated Minecraft’s misinformation was correct when he said Taiwanese people don’t exist

[manic juniper]

I didn't say they don't exist, I said that they are ethnically Chinese, it's acknowledged by both parties to an extent

[quasi needle]

it’s acknowledged that china is rightfully the taiwaneses’ and the ccp are unlawful occupants. but the western governments won’t say that because the ccp makes all their things for them

[dapper laurel]

Taiwanese is a nationality, not an ethnicity, they are essentially Chinese too

[quasi needle]

this is not the point im making

[dense agate]

what he said is right, Taiwanaese people share similar ethnicities with China, but they grew a sense of Tawainese nationalism

[manic juniper]

It could be an ethnicity since they are diverging quickly

[quasi needle]

NOT THE POINT IM MAKING !!

i was told by minecraft that taiwanese people do NOT exist, they are only chinese. that is WRONG

[dapper laurel]

Well, how are their genetics changing compared to the Chinese ones?

[quasi needle]

they are merging with the japanese

[dense agate]

when did Isfrun confirm what minecraft said ?

[dapper laurel]

I don't see anything wrong with this

[feral river]

what if I told you partially Japanese is genetic Chinese

[manic juniper]

They're not, but genetics aren't worth a lot, many Chinese mainlanders in the northeast used to be Manchurians and Jurchens before the cultural revolution and centuries of assimilation

[quasi needle]

He's right, ethnically they are Chinese and consider themselves as such.

“He’s right”

[feral river]

🤣

[manic juniper]

Ethnically

[lavish creek]

Ig there are mixing with indigenous ppl tbf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_indigenous_peoples

[quasi needle]

and that still doesn’t mean minecraft is right therefore negating any point made

why are you nitpicking

[lavish creek]

And maybe they can change their identity with time also

I mean like Chinese in Vietnam did for instance

[quasi needle]

what if i told you that chinese people are ethnically black from thousands of years ago. does that mean you’re black?

[dense agate]

those are small minorities

[dapper laurel]

They are aborigines, they are a minority

[manic juniper]

Because nationally they are Chinese (republican), both countries are named China. There are two Chinese nationalities just like there are two Korean nationalities

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoa_people

[dapper laurel]

HAN CHINESE

They're Chinese

[manic juniper]

Wait until you find out that there are two Sudanese and two Somalian nationalities

[dense agate]

yes they are Han Chinese

[dapper laurel]

You don't have to think about American propaganda that tries to divide the same people

[lavish creek]

Romania and Moldova

[dapper laurel]

They're the same people

[dense agate]

it's not nitpicking at all, just because Taiwan is ethnically Han Chinese doesn't mean they don't have the right to self-rule

[manic juniper]

The names are different but the language is the same, Moldova acknowledges it in the Constitution

[lavish creek]

Ig the next target is Singapore then

[dapper laurel]

The two Koreas too

[dense agate]

Austria and Germany might be both germany but can have their own state, history and so on

[lavish creek]

With a huge amount of Han ppl

[manic juniper]

Ethnicities are more made up than nationalities btw, at least nationalities have a passport

[quasi needle]

they’ve been self ruling for over half a century and 89% of the populous want to be independent

the people want to be independent, they are going to be independent, the west wills it, america will ensure of it

[dense agate]

and China is not an ethnostate, it's not like they're going after every land that has a some form of chinese population

[manic juniper]

Ethnicities are imaginary lines drawn by people

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria_victim_theory

[manic juniper]

You're associating the name China with the PRC, it's not the way it is

[dapper laurel]

True 👏🏻👏🏻

[dense agate]

okay, when did i or isfrun say otherwise ?

[lavish creek]

They used to say they are different ppl after ww2

[manic juniper]

There is People's Republic of China and Republic of China, both nationalities are Chinese, the two nationalities are separate

[quasi needle]

“just because Taiwan is ethnically Han Chinese doesn't mean they don't have the right to self-rule”

am i not allowed to say why they do have the right to self rule

[dense agate]

that was a mere example of how you can have 2 states of similar ethnicities, we're not doing ww2 lel

[manic juniper]

I agree

[lavish creek]

Ig it's more about nationality in meaning that differs from citizenship

[feral river]

humm what u guys talking about

[manic juniper]

Just because their country's name is almos the same as another country's doesn't mean they have to be absorbed, there are countries like that in Europe too

[lavish creek]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagined_community)

[dense agate]

you can say whatever, it just came out of context

[quasi needle]

just because the roc fucking hates the prc, they have the right to self rule their own land which the roc has no control or occupation over

the prc claim is redundant

[manic juniper]

The country of Luxembourg, smaller than the Luxembourg region of Belgium (I think?)
The country of Moldova, smaller than the region of Moldavia (called Moldova too in Romania)

[quasi needle]

they’re preparing for war but the usa has pledged to support the roc

it’s a lose lose for the prc

[feral river]

looks you are so unhappy about this point 🤣

[dense agate]

and all the bunch of arab countries being separated as well

[manic juniper]

The PRC and the ROC claim the same thing with different words, they both claim that there is one China (themselves) even though there isn't

[lavish creek]

Belgium can simply ethnically/nationality be divided between France and Nederland actually

[quasi needle]

you are explaining what i already know

im fully aware of the geopolitical state of south east Asia

[manic juniper]

Then why do you dislike that I'm saying there are two Chinese nationalities

Or that they may share the same ethnicity

[dense agate]

yet they are an independent country

[lavish creek]

Yeap that's what I'm also saying

Take a look at Bangladesh Pakistan India too

[quasi needle]

im disliking you used that as a point to say “he’s right” when he said taiwanese people do not exist. they are citizens of an independent country and so they do exist as an independent entity of people

stop taking my words and extenuating them

[manic juniper]

They are like Switzerland, they kind of agreed to exist

[quasi needle]

you are completely misinterpreting what im saying

[dense agate]

good, ethno-nationalism was only good for a certain time, right now it should be irrelevant even though many folks are still dying in it's name

[lavish creek]

It was always BAD

Look what it did to Germans

[lavish creek]

You just reminded me about that. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/epk4b6/gaddafis_proposal_to_divide_switzerland/

[manic juniper]

Ok so I scrolled up to confirm what he said, he said that there are only Chinese people in Taiwan. There are two interpretations of that, one is about nationality and he's correct, the other is about ethnicity and he isn't (because natives are a thing)
So he didn't say Taiwanese people don't exist

Not in that message at least, and I said that he's right referring to it

[quasi needle]

"that doesn't exist lol"

he replied directly to my message about them

[lavish creek]

Take an alternative with your country mate

Like there are a lot of Englishmen in Australia or Canada

[quasi needle]

you are pushing a separate agenda to what ive already debunked

[feral river]

I'm now the real supreme leader!

[dense agate]

i know it did cause some bad things, but it did help couple countries in the long term,
since you said Germany i'll reply to that, germany before the 19th century has never existed, they were just bunch of small city state (even tho it was called the Holy German Empire back then) they never saw each other with anything common, that's when nationalism came and help unite them

[manic juniper]

Like I said, I was referring to the other statement

[quasi needle]

you are spewing a point that i am not on about

[feral river]

should I wrote that quote into consitutions

[lavish creek]

But ofc Australians and Canadians do exist

[manic juniper]

Why are you nitpicking

[lavish creek]

And some are also Englishmen

[quasi needle]

ironic

[lavish creek]

(time for you to take them back mate)

One England policy

[dapper laurel]

Only the natives, the rest are Anglo-Saxons or Indian immigrants

[quasi needle]

wonderful, the statement that i never contextually replied to. hence your whole point had nothing to do with my claims

[dapper laurel]

And I think these territories are legitimately part of the United Kingdom

[manic juniper]

One Ireland policy, all English speaking countries are Irish

[feral river]

so yeah you can call people live in somewhere in addition a ese or i or n something

but Taiwan is part of China

[manic juniper]

Now don't act like you didn't lump my statement with his other view

[feral river]

it's a province of Republic of China

[lavish creek]

I meant guys of so-called Anglo-Saxon descent right

[feral river]

and being claimed by People's Republic of China

[quasi needle]

you bumped in your statement with a debate of an entirely different matter

[manic juniper]

Yes

[dense agate]

i agree, it's better to have just ONE china

[feral river]

that's the influence of supreme leader!

[manic juniper]

It wasn't s contradiction so why not

[lavish creek]

Maybe you need to take some part of New York with a predominantly Italian population? What do you think

[quasi needle]

supreme leader xi jinping 🤤

[manic juniper]

What's that flag on the right?

[feral river]

People's Republic of China

[dense agate]

the old communist china

[feral river]

you don't know that's our flag ?

[lavish creek]

I like that

[manic juniper]

Is it a new country?

[feral river]

how

It's People's Republic of China

[manic juniper]

Yes I do, it's the flag on the left

[lavish creek]

Are you from Estonia or Finland?

[dapper laurel]

Yes. It is just an extension of the Italian territory in the end, all the territories that have Italians within them are legitimately ours

[manic juniper]

I didn't know there was another flag

[quasi needle]

this does not work. northern ireland is protestant and the republic of ireland is catholic

[feral river]

that's the flag of Republic of China

[quasi needle]

protestant -> church of england -> united kingdom

[feral river]

that was being released in 1914 if I do remember

and Republic of China still using it

[manic juniper]

It will work, all English speaking countries are part of Ireland, so even Australia and New Zealand

[lavish creek]

Well then there should be camps for prots, what do you think

[feral river]

"White sun with blue sky flag"

the flag of Republic of China

[manic juniper]

One Cornwall policy, all countries within 10000 km of Cornwall are part of the Cornish Empire

[quasi needle]

catholicism was outlawed by henry the 8th in the 1500s when the church of england and protestant faith were introduced to england

[manic juniper]

Yes it's the flag of China

[dense agate]

the guy really wanted to divorce his wife that hard

[lavish creek]

@manic juniper

[quasi needle]

(his 6 wives)

[shy summit]

They left years ago

[lavish creek]

You know both used to be part of Russia

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[quasi needle]

(he killed ~3 of his wives)

[manic juniper]

The uglier one

[feral river]

sigh

[manic juniper]

Both used to be part of Sweden

[lavish creek]

And the heart of Finno-Ugric ppl in Russia

[feral river]

idk what to say now

[lavish creek]

Sooooo

[manic juniper]

Nope it's Hungary, most of us are in Hungary (10 millions I think?)
Those in Russia are very few

[lavish creek]

Sweden also should be part of Russia? That's what you mean ?

[lavish creek]

Yea, but they came from Ural

[manic juniper]

You mean the country literally created by Swedes? Yes, Russia should be part of Sweden

[lavish creek]

Madiyars call Ural home themselves

[manic juniper]

Slavs came from the Belarusian and Ukrainian swamps

[quasi needle]

using ethnicity to shape countries is HEAVILY DANGEROUS. look at the middle east, look at africa. the colonists made the modern day country borders by using ethnicities, since then they have been at WAR with each other

[lavish creek]

They didn't care about ethnicity during decolonisation

[dense agate]

ethnicities weren't use to draw the borders in middleast or africa

[quasi needle]

it was primarily tribes, ethnicity and religion

[lavish creek]

In some cases no ethnicity has a majority in country

[manic juniper]

By the way I saw an interesting DNA study about the Rurikids, the founders of Kyivan Rus' (so Ukraine, Russia and Belarus)
They have the same haplogroup as me (N1), maybe they were Norse Finns

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10615192/

[dense agate]

it's quite the opposite, there are many wars in places like africa becasue the border drawing didn't put ethnicities in consideration

[round tangle]

Hey guys

[dense agate]

hop on the train

[manic juniper]

I will be the Otto von Bismarck of Finnic people

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_of_the_Varangians

[manic juniper]

Yes?

[round tangle]

I am 22 years old, I graduated from university and I regret my choice of university and the department I studied. I feel like i am failure for my family. They have expectations for me and i went shitty school. Everyone around me successful.

[lavish creek]

Well that explains why there weren't slavic ppl

[round tangle]

Is there anybody to give advice?

[manic juniper]

Isn't it what I said? That they were Swedish tribes that created Kyivan Rus'?

[dapper laurel]

This seems like a logical flaw

[manic juniper]

I added that genetically they could've been from Norrland so Svedicized Finns

[lavish creek]

Didn't have seen that

[manic juniper]

N1 haplogroup just like me

Now I'm using these haplogroups to draw arbitrary lines 😈 and justify my regality just like the old royal families did

[lavish creek]

Yes, Indian partition too

[dapper laurel]

Can the blood type determine the place of origin of an individual?

[lavish creek]

You have some claims on the Russian throne ?

[manic juniper]

All three countries

[thorny steeple]

hello there

I'm pretty new to this chat

[manic juniper]

I will make Tallinn the new capital

[dapper laurel]

For example A, B etc.

[manic juniper]

Yes

They are mutations after all

[lavish creek]

You know Russians used to say they are third Rome

[manic juniper]

The thing is not even haplogroup can say much about your actual origins

[lavish creek]

Maybe they should start war against Italy

And add them to Russia

[manic juniper]

It's much more reliable to make a comparative analysis of your genome and that of the people around you

[dapper laurel]

I just asked my mom and she says I have 0-, what does that mean?

[lavish creek]

Italian province of Russia

[manic juniper]

I'm aware, I dislike Rome so I will make it the new Kvenland

[dapper laurel]

NO, YOU CAN'T DISLIKE ROME

ROME IS EVERYTHING

[lavish creek]

How can a person dislike Rome ?

[manic juniper]

0 is the most basal human blood type, I think - means that you lack the Rh factor (another mutation that is independent from the base blood type)

So you have a quite basal and less mutated blood type

[manic juniper]

It's a product of Indo-Europeans

Reindeers good horses bad

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[dapper laurel]

So there is no difference between 0+ and 0-?

[manic juniper]

There is the difference, it's the factor Rh. - means that it's lacking, so your blood is less mutated

Because of that your body can't tolerate mutated blood as reliably

[dapper laurel]

I thought it was rare 😔

[thorny steeple]

ello im new!

[lavish creek]

You are not special

[manic juniper]

It's more rare than 0+, it's older too, 0+ is more mutated but it's more numerous because it was more successful. Now I don't think we know why is that

By the way there are other blood types besides 0, A, B and AB, they are even more rare

Apes and monkeys too can have blood types similar to ours, if I'm not mistaken chimpanzees have B(?)

[lavish creek]

Now I wanna take ethnicity test

[dapper laurel]

So can I roughly understand where I come from if I have 0-?

[lavish creek]

Bro what if you are barbaric who destroyed Rome

I would kill myself

[manic juniper]

No since it's the most basal one, the most you can do is guess where you're less likely to come from

[dapper laurel]

Only 50%

[manic juniper]

But still I think all blood types are distributed more or less worldwide and in most populations with some absurd exceptions, like Australian natives having almost exclusively B

[dapper laurel]

Out of curiosity I asked ChatGPT, it said it's typical in Denmark ☠️

[manic juniper]

Europeans especially moving more East should have higher abundance of A
B should be more common in Northern India too and parts of Siberia
I don't remember exactly where but AB is more common in certain regions compared to others

[dapper laurel]

And UK

I don't want to be an Anglo-Saxon

[manic juniper]

There are countries that lack certain blood types more than others, or have higher abundance of some of them like Russia with A, but 0 is almost everywhere

[dapper laurel]

Well, I'm not special

[manic juniper]

No, I think the most rare are B and AB

[dapper laurel]

I don't know bro, the Germans created modern computer science, they sent man to the moon, they are practically the fathers of physics

[dense agate]

lel this is like the stuff i find in 4chan

[dapper laurel]

4chan is so brainrot

[manic juniper]

Norsemen weren't civilised by Mediterraneans lol they fucking conquered a lot of lands there

[lavish creek]

I'm mediterranean myself so I totally agree with these memes

[dense agate]

true, but almost all of the internet is nowadays

[dapper laurel]

Where are you from?

[lavish creek]

It's just fucking meme

[manic juniper]

They set up a kingdom in Sicily after driving out the Arabs, they ravaged Arabs in the Iberian peninsula making them vulnerable to the Asturian kingdoms

[manic juniper]

Memes about history need to be accurate or they lose the fun

[lavish creek]

I can send my photo and you will try to find out, okay ?

[manic juniper]

I'm all for insulting N*rsemen but jeez the arguments have to make sense, for example how they prefer horses (an irrational animal) over reindeers (independent, civilised being)

[dapper laurel]

Well, if it doesn't embarrass you

[dense agate]

then you should never see what they post in 2balkan4you

[manic juniper]

That subreddit was banned

It's balkan_irl now

[dense agate]

you had to remind me 😔

[dapper laurel]

I don't like Balkan memes

They always try to discredit their neighbors

Albanians call Greeks Arabs and vice versa

[dense agate]

yea but this old reddit page did it in an ironic way

[dapper laurel]

None of this makes sense

[ashen mortar]

lmao

racist ppl

[dapper laurel]

I should have saved some videos

Greeks mocking Turks

[plush silo]

Hello I am new

[dense agate]

🇸🇮 💪💪💪💪💪

[manic juniper]

Made by a Russian lol, 0 accuracy

[lavish creek]

https://youtu.be/kw1vHHDEOa0?si=G9PGe9vSLj4EH7Er

[dapper laurel]

Are you Croatian?

[dense agate]

hahaha probably, this is how most historic memes are like

[manic juniper]

Why yes let's skim over 12% of the population enslaved and Finns having the same rights as Swedes in the 17th century

[dapper laurel]

I have a nice Serbian song for you to listen to

[lavish creek]

Am I looking slavic to you ?

[manic juniper]

You look like Assad

Literally the lost son of Assad

[lavish creek]

SIS

[dapper laurel]

https://youtu.be/orLL5xhQRZU?si=y3Tx93TNijZILOfZ

[dapper laurel]

So you're greek?

[dapper laurel]

Anyway, yes, a little bit

[lavish creek]

https://youtu.be/azNKPM5anok?si=tn9CzZj-GyN5MRtD

[dense agate]

this can't be real

[manic juniper]

It is

[lavish creek]

Serbs are based guys

[dapper laurel]

They are proud of their past

[lavish creek]

Please girl

I'm gonna kill myself

[manic juniper]

Prove that he isn't your father

[lavish creek]

https://youtu.be/Ufn-eVUupmQ?si=RIXcObiD1AXIrukE

[dense agate]

yes genocide is so based

[lavish creek]

I'm NOT AN ARAB

[shy summit]

I smell ToS violations

[manic juniper]

Turkish confirmed

[lavish creek]

No .

[manic juniper]

Assyrian then

[dapper laurel]

Greek

[lavish creek]

I have nothing again Kurdish and Arabs you see

[versed rain]

wth why did u say u are turkish?

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[manic juniper]

Because he doesn't want to be Arab

[lavish creek]

He is talking about me

[dapper laurel]

You're greek 100%

[versed rain]

because turks are not

[lavish creek]

She

Sorry

[manic juniper]

It's just pronouns

[versed rain]

this is not about to be wanting

It is made by being born into the race

And then, turks are not

[manic juniper]

He vehemently denied being Arab, so he must be Turkish

[dapper laurel]

LOL

[rich thorn]

?def vehemently

[cursive bobcat]

Word: vehemently

Definition (null): in a vehement manner

Definition requested by lemon6943

[versed rain]

Yes turks are extremely angry about it

[manic juniper]

Not really helpful bot

[rich thorn]

this doesn't help at all

[dapper laurel]

Turks hate arabs so bad

[dense agate]

wow

[rich thorn]

what a helpful bot

[versed rain]

do turks look like that?

[dapper laurel]

@lavish creek ¿Español?

[manic juniper]

?Def vehement

[cursive bobcat]

Word: vehement

Definition 1 (adjective): marked by extreme intensity of emotions or convictions; inclined to react violently; fervid
Definition 2 (adjective): characterized by great force or energy

Definition requested by isfrun

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/arab-marriage-gif-25912402

[dapper laurel]

50%

[versed rain]

do we look like them?

[manic juniper]

@rich thorn

[lavish creek]

Bro I love you, thanks for keeping me close to European cost land

[versed rain]

andos please dont enrage me right now

[dapper laurel]

Morocco?

[lavish creek]

This Fino-ugoric girl is now my enemy

[dapper laurel]

Sorry

[rich thorn]

Thanks. it has to very specifically asked i see

[lavish creek]

I'm gonna comit Fino-ugoric genocide

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/good-hate-powerful-gif-13603659

[dapper laurel]

Give me a hint bro

[manic juniper]

We know that already, come up with something new

[versed rain]

I'm mentally retarded and I think they're the same.

[lavish creek]

I'm Jew

[lavish creek]

They are

[lavish creek]

But East European

[dense agate]

wt did this chat turn into ?

[dapper laurel]

We are brothers, I am 0.9% Ashkenazi

[versed rain]

u are racist

[lavish creek]

♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[manic juniper]

Same, I'm 98% human so we are related somehow

[versed rain]

%2 plant?

[manic juniper]

Close

[lavish creek]

Yes, I wanna comit Finno-Ugric genocide

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/plants-indoor-botanic-green-happy-gif-14728961

[lavish creek]

Let's get Israel citizenship

[lavish creek]

Me

[dense agate]

hava nagila incoming

[versed rain]

Israel? Genocidal state?

[lavish creek]

Yes

[dense agate]

omegalel

[dapper laurel]

YES, YES, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR, IN THE END WE ARE ALL BORN FROM INCEST

[versed rain]

you are immoral

[manic juniper]

Maybe I'm Israeli too

[lavish creek]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[versed rain]

Are you advocating killing people?

[manic juniper]

No, but I'm immoral

[dapper laurel]

THE BIBLE SUPPORTS IT TOO

[dense agate]

you're asking the wrong guy, they didn't do october 7th

[lavish creek]

I am

[manic juniper]

I thought most people on here were immoral? Chat, you're disappointing me

[versed rain]

what is the october 7th?

[manic juniper]

Are you really from Slovenia

[lavish creek]

I'm highly moral actually.

But in the ancient Greek sense

[dense agate]

Hamas warcrimes lel

[dense agate]

what ? i never said such thing

[manic juniper]

You sent their flag so I assumed, my bad

[lavish creek]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[versed rain]

There was palestine before. Israel killed a lot of palestinian people from 1970's. Is Hamas's attack a reason to kill all innocent people?

[manic juniper]

Yet another disappointment

[dense agate]

oh yea lol, was just mimicking how balkans react to those memes

[lavish creek]

No one here is advocating for Israel operations in Gaza mate

[manic juniper]

Slovenes are better than the other Balkan people

[dense agate]

there was never a plaestinian state before 1947

[manic juniper]

In fact their country is barely in the Balkans or just isn't at all

[versed rain]

but u guys say i am israeli, i support israel maybe i am jew.

[manic juniper]

They're the richest and least nationalistic 🦾

[lavish creek]

They just get out from Yugoslavia quickly

[manic juniper]

They always were the richest, even during the Yugoslavian Federation

[dense agate]

as far as i know they are better economically, even back at yugoslavian time

[manic juniper]

Serbia didn't bother them too much because they said "Shit there is no nationalism to exploit here"

[lavish creek]

Ye, part of the reasons why they left

[versed rain]

I'm not advocating that anyone kill anyone. I'm not defending Palestine or Israel, I'm defending the innocents.

[lavish creek]

As Croatians did

[dense agate]

yea exactly, they probably felt like they were subsidizing the whole state

[manic juniper]

There is also the fact that all funds were being aggressively sucked by Serbia

[lavish creek]

Just north of Yugoslavia in general

[versed rain]

but u guys support israel/no palestinian innocents for just racism

I support israeli and palestinian innocents

[lavish creek]

No one said anything like that

[dense agate]

bro's having a monologue

[lavish creek]

My Kemal Atatürk friend

[dense agate]

wasn'tt it atakurt ?

[manic juniper]

I don't support either of them, humans aren't native of the Middle East

[versed rain]

Atatürk

[lavish creek]

Looool

[lavish creek]

Does Jerusalem belong to Finno-Ugric?

[dense agate]

my bad, i just hear many variants, atakurt, ataturk, atakurd, it's hard to keep up

[versed rain]

you are disrespectful to people's values

[lavish creek]

Why

[manic juniper]

No, we can't survive at such low latitudes

Maybe the Hungarians can after centuries of mixing

[versed rain]

u know that's why. One know ataturk as atakurt or atakurd

bye bye

[manic juniper]

Wouldn't Atakurd mean father of the Kurds?

[dense agate]

aren't hungarians Finno Ugric, they do just fine at somewhat similar low latitudes

[dense agate]

i assume so

[manic juniper]

What if the Kurds gain a national hero akin to Atatürk, aptly named Atakurd (after Atatürk)?

[feral river]

well personally I don't think a bunch of innocent people will elect a terrorist party in power

[lavish creek]

They are Turkic .

[dense agate]

probably they too would have one when or if kurdistan ever came to being

[manic juniper]

Because they mixed with the locals, in fact I hardly consider them as such

[feral river]

and I also don't think people who provide taxes, shelters, fighters to their enemies is innocent

[manic juniper]

Average Turan pseudoscience fan

[dense agate]

who woke up the minecraft guy

[feral river]

if they are not innocent all they have to do it leave there immediately or surrender to the local forces

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Turanism

Look there are Atakurd

[manic juniper]

Turanism is cringe pseudoscience, I'm pretty sure a Swede created it

[dense agate]

for real ?

[dense agate]

so they're basically trying to tie hungarians to asia ?

[lavish creek]

There are children actually

A lot of them so u see

[manic juniper]

They are tied to Asia, but they're not tied to Turks in any way

[lavish creek]

It's a Hungarian 19th century nationalism story

[manic juniper]

The Magyars were influenced by Turkic people in the Pontic steppes

[lavish creek]

They were looking for roots and didn't want to accept they are peaceful Finno-Ugric fishermen

[manic juniper]

That's all that there is, their closest linguistic relatives never developed those raiding habits

[dense agate]

is it that bad to be finno ugric ?

[manic juniper]

They never were peaceful

[manic juniper]

No, it's based

[lavish creek]

And made up a legend about Huns and Atilla

[manic juniper]

In fact Magyars are the worst Finno-Ugric people

[dapper laurel]

Bulgarians were also influenced by Turkic people, right?

[dense agate]

source ? a fellow finno ugric i assume

[manic juniper]

The Bulgars were Turkic yes, but they were absorbed by the local Slavs

[dense agate]

waiit i need to check hungary in my victoria 3, never thought of looking at it

[lavish creek]

Back days everyone was trying to be the most bad genocider ever existed

[dapper laurel]

Slavik power 🇦🇹🇺🇦🇷🇺🇧🇾

[manic juniper]

Waging useless wars that don't bring any benefit: ugly
Herding reindeers and walking long distances: based

[dapper laurel]

(I used the Austrian flag to mock)

[manic juniper]

Ignore the fact that Finnic people participated in countless battles and that makes the romantic view of Finno-Ugric people more consistent