🧠｜serious-chat

[versed rain]

I told them that if I ever did the slightest thing again, they would ban me forever and i promised

[feral river]

oh that's fine I guess we need to follow the rule anyway

I don't wanna lose a minister of managing religious affairs!

652 men (amen)

btw I wonder how jewish people say amen

[manic juniper]

אָמֵן
(Amen)

[near rivet]

What's 652 mean?

[manic juniper]

In honour of Minecraft_652

[feral river]

my twin sister named me 652 in the first minecraft server I ever played

then I made a little modification from 652 to Minecraft_652 as my ID in 2016

then using it till now

Chinese call me 652, and other people talking english call me minecraft

[woven cloak]

Hey and how are you to everyone in here

[near rivet]

Ohh nice

Why the other guy has 652 in his name as well?

[feral river]

I started 652 empire in this server

and they are part of us

[near rivet]

Ohh

[woven cloak]

May I know which countries that you all from

[feral river]

In serious we trust

[near rivet]

How many 652 are there so far

[feral river]

6 maybe

[near rivet]

I see

[green robin]

I’m gonna start 619

Whose up ?

[feral river]

seems we got a war over here ?

[near rivet]

Expound the significance of the number

[feral river]

652Empire is the only legitmate entity state body of this channel

[green robin]

War ? We trust in love and peace

[green robin]

Who says so ?

[feral river]

we trust in love and peace too but through war we can achieve that

we are in peace right now but it seems you want to go war

[green robin]

Naah our motto is
‘Make love not war; Make babies not weapons ‘

[feral river]

LMAO

[green robin]

We don’t fight losers

[near rivet]

That's why there's 69 lmao

[feral river]

I love this crap dude

[green robin]

You got that homie

[woven cloak]

Are there any Americans here?

[feral river]

make love and make babies dude really contributing a lot to the birth rate

[green robin]

Time to demolish 652

[green robin]

Learned from China after all

[feral river]

which province u live in

[green robin]

India *not gonna skip

[feral river]

u from india ?

[green robin]

Tibet

[feral river]

oh Xizang autonomous region

[green robin]

Nope sir

[feral river]

how's in there, I heard a megacity rise up in Lhasa

[green robin]

Xizang ⚔️

[green robin]

China pouring up money in Lhasa

It’s a tourist attraction after all

[feral river]

yeah I heard of it I ever been to Lhasa in 2016 ? or 2017

that was amazing but not making that much memory cuz im a freaking teenager

[green robin]

Really ? Did you enjoy your trip down south ?

[feral river]

well yeah but I heard there was some strange traditions people takes idk what are these

so I was traveling carefully also with my parents at that time

[green robin]

Sounds more like an old peep

[green robin]

lol wdym carefully ?

[feral river]

I mean I only get to the place where tourists going

and i was young at that time

[green robin]

Ah I see you must visit us again.

[feral river]

btw are you a Han Chinese or Tibetian

if you don't mind it

[green robin]

I’m Tibetan

[feral river]

cool what do you think of your life

is it going well ?

or there's something you doesn't like

[thorn lagoon]

Free tibet?

[feral river]

not that bs again

[thorn lagoon]

Why

Is that bs

[green robin]

Well cannot complain, all is well

[feral river]

blink if you need help

[green robin]

Hahaha free China

[thorn lagoon]

Xi Jinping is monitoring

[green robin]

Wait help from a teenager
Not bad x2

[green robin]

VPN ACTIVATED

[feral river]

well dude... you really need to take care of yourself, do you got a chance to leave the region

or do you usually travel ?

[thorn lagoon]

Can you read tibetan script?

[thorn lagoon]

Is there a one language and one script policy in Xhina?

[green robin]

Yes I do with my fellow mates

[feral river]

well have you ever been to Chinese megacities like Beijing, Shanghai ?

[green robin]

Partially yes

[thorn lagoon]

It's ova

[green robin]

Yes when I was a teen.

[feral river]

dude then ur having a good life

[green robin]

Haha indeed. I hung out with bagpackers

So Things are easier now

[feral river]

enjoy your life in China

[green robin]

Btw where you from ?

[feral river]

capital of the Shandong province

Jinan city

[green robin]

Jinan

[feral river]

yeha

now im in South Korea, just 2 days ago I was in Jinan

[green robin]

Never been there

[green robin]

Ah i see, you travelling ?

[feral river]

well study here for a term (travelling indeed)

[green robin]

Now you’re a grown up man
Travelling without parents xd

[feral river]

I used to travel internationally alone lol

I ever been both Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan

in July I was in Japan on vacation

[green robin]

Idk Korea doesn’t fascinates me

[feral river]

well basically I have the money to go anywhere I want

[green robin]

I’m moving to Japan

[feral river]

so me having a good life

[feral river]

cool have you ever been there ?

[green robin]

Indeed

[green robin]

Naah this gonna be my first time

[warped flame]

shit yo pants 5 times in a day or eat other ppls nose sugar 10 times in a day.

[feral river]

cool Japan is just impressive it's the second most favorite country I ever been

[warped flame]

now its the serious chat

[shy summit]

Japan is cool but its work ethic is crazy unhealthy

[green robin]

True, Japan gives me home vibes

[thorny steeple]

hello guys how yall doing

[feral river]

yeah I wish if I can settle in Japan in the future 🤣 but I prefer western nations I would be more familiar with

[feral river]

yeah true, this friend is from the Tibet Autonomous Region

he's having a good life I guess

[green robin]

Yeah I’m aware of the work culture, it’s crazy 12-14hrs a day

[shy summit]

I thought you said china had no autonomous regions….?

[green robin]

Naah I’m gonna stick japan or maybe Russia

[feral river]

well nah, Xinjiang Uyhgur Autonomous Region, Tibet Autonomous Region and more

[green robin]

Why you keep stressing on ‘having a good life ‘ ?

[feral river]

cuz someone saying you guys were being imprisoned

with severe human rights abused

Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region

[green robin]

Who cares about other’s opinions ?

[feral river]

Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region

[feral river]

idc but we usually have a chat war over here

she's saying that people in Xinjiang is being suppressed

[green robin]

China is well capable of enriching and empowering these regions

[shy summit]

Capable, perhaps.

In actuality

Well

[feral river]

idk, well he's live in Tibet

where the camps exist

exist ? idk I assume that exist

[green robin]

Not like America who prefers looting and spreading chaos

[feral river]

@shy summit see

I won

[shy summit]

What the heck are you talking about?

[green robin]

China has better policies than America

That’s a fact

[shy summit]

2020? The George Floyd Protests?

Is that what you’re talking about?

[feral river]

I think both regimes has their unique advantages, america is just so different to China

america's policy articulating in favor of commerical activities and business

[thorn lagoon]

Ccp Propaganda

[shy summit]

Which policies

[feral river]

dude I won't say okay I will just see

[green robin]

Regional policies and foreign policies

[feral river]

if I say it it was bullying

[shy summit]

Which policies

[feral river]

okay I will shut it and see what you guys going to say

[green robin]

You want me to list down the policies

[shy summit]

You said they were better so I just figured you had a comparison in mind or an area of policy in mind

Which policy(s) were you thinking of?

[thorn lagoon]

China is a bully 😡😤👊

They are bullying taiwan

[feral river]

do you know who's ruling Taiwan

spell the full name of government of Taiwan

Republic of what ?

@green robin do you expect Chinese reunification

[thorn lagoon]

The aborigine negrito should rule Taiwan

Han Chinese are invaders

[shy summit]

Well I think taiwan made what they want pretty clear in this regard

[thorn lagoon]

The real taiwanese

[shy summit]

Either way I’m still curious to hear which policy you prefer

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00438243.2022.2121315

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364132148_Negritos_in_Taiwan_and_the_wider_prehistory_of_Southeast_Asia_new_discovery_from_the_Xiaoma_Caves

[feral river]

ethnic groups in Chinese Taiwan

[thorn lagoon]

Those 2.3 percent indigenous are negrito

[feral river]

ethnic groups in China mainland

[green robin]

China maintains diplomatic relations with many global superpowers whereas america fails to do so which causes instability.
Economic development, china focuses more on regional and its global economic prosperity.

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/negritos-celebrated-as-early-taiwan-settlers-idUSTRE4AG16W/

[shy summit]

Which superpowers

[thorn lagoon]

Are you a negrito or a han?

[feral river]

I'm a marsian

[thorn lagoon]

Bs

[feral river]

can that be more funny than this ?

🤣

[green robin]

I mean , im not against it if it done without fightin wars

[thorn lagoon]

The original taiwaness

[feral river]

real bro me too I don't want war too but I expect it

[green robin]

Russia, America EU, Middle east

[green robin]

My motto says it all

[feral river]

@shy summit I already won with that, fr

have a nice debate with this gentleman

[shy summit]

We have strong relations with the EU and maintain a presence in the middle east, Russia however keeps shooting at our aircraft.

[feral river]

big win times guys

next time someone bring this shit up to me

I will just show some screenshots

[versed rain]

what do u think about us-turkey relations?

[green robin]

Nobody trusts america in 2024

[feral river]

gosh this is too wild

anyway I respect your opinion

[shy summit]

Not nearly prevalent enough though Turkey has its own shit to sort out before it can really focus on foreign relations

[green robin]

The poke their nose every where and its the native people who has to face the repercussions

[feral river]

their job is not stab america in the fucking back

[versed rain]

wdym

[green robin]

Wanna be a leader of OIC

[feral river]

well I mean you guys doesn't have a strong tie with america but you guys maintain the relationship with everyone

[versed rain]

Our relations would have been much better if everything the United States wanted had been submitted to

[green robin]

It's a fact what americans have been doing around the globe
Venezuela
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Bangladesh
Japan
Ukraine
Iraq
list goes on...

Turkiye has no foot in foreign politics

Its just a lost birdie

[versed rain]

So you're trying to say it's not clear what happens?

[feral river]

they do for americans don't they ?

I would prefer China's doing it for Chinese

if China are capable to do it we can be rich as america

[green robin]

All im trying to say is turkiye has poor foreign policies n approach

[feral river]

at least we have some mineral companies to get crucial resources in africa

[green robin]

Yes indeed, and i say whats wrong if china does this

[versed rain]

yes it is but there is same with spain. Spain generally doesnt say anything about foreign issues

[feral river]

olympics ?

they are olympic superpower

[green robin]

spain jeez

[versed rain]

what?

[feral river]

what ?

you mean spain's out ?

[manic juniper]

Americans are helping Ukraine

[feral river]

show me the list of medals of this olympics in paris

[green robin]

it doesnt matter how many gold you secure in olympics

[versed rain]

generally yes, spain takes own decides about foreign issues like turkey

[feral river]

SPAIN IS DAMN OUT L WTF

[green robin]

Foreign policies = Stance/Dominance Globally

[versed rain]

turkey is around 40-50. The history's worser result

[green robin]

So does EU

[feral river]

their policy is clear, get money from everyone no matter it's an ally or enemy, then bomb enemies shit out of this planet

that's what they do

[manic juniper]

I'm aware, I'm from the EU

[versed rain]

It depends on the demands of the United States. If it doesn't have a bad influence on the region, turkey helps America.

[feral river]

introducing, this gentleman from Tibet Autonomous Region of China

[versed rain]

turkey supports ukraine too. We gave a lot of militarian vehicles.

[feral river]

we just destroyed that california liberal Nale

[green robin]

hahah its not that simple to bomb a country
It would be foolish to even do so.

[versed rain]

turkey?

[feral river]

i mean america

[versed rain]

yes, it is what i wanna say. USA doesnt look at allyships

[feral river]

they don't give a fuck when talks about money

[versed rain]

they just wanna take action for their benefits

[shy summit]

This only teams?

[manic juniper]

Every country does that

[green robin]

Just becoz its a part of EU and also to assert/advertise dominance in military warfare(Military Market)

[elfin orchid]

how did you think that its turkey lol

[feral river]

well that's the result of paris olympics just ended

[manic juniper]

It's not part of the EU dude... Do you even know what you're saying

Neither Ukraine nor Turkey are members of the EU

[shy summit]

Damn. Sorry bud had to do it to ya

[versed rain]

Really?

[dapper laurel]

Good evening guys, I hope you are having a peaceful and serene conversation ☺️

[feral river]

have a good night

[versed rain]

see u

[green robin]

Opsie i wanted to say Nato

[shy summit]

Surprised North Korea even participated

[manic juniper]

Only Turkey is in NATO

[versed rain]

Turkey doesnt want to beside of America because of betrayals except NATO issues.

[manic juniper]

Ukraine isn't and likely won't be any soon

[dapper laurel]

As if they hadn't participated in the end

[green robin]

Yes what do you think ? i mean do you really think turkey cares about ukraine

[feral river]

they got a higher rank than India

[manic juniper]

Even Serbia, one of the most anti-NATO countries are supporting Ukraine

[manic juniper]

Lithuania has like 2 people

[dapper laurel]

No way this happened

[shy summit]

India taking the L

[feral river]

lmao fr

[shy summit]

Still the US in that #1 as it belongs

[versed rain]

Yes, turkey cares. Turkey is constantly trying to reach an agreement with Russia and Ukraine because Turkey is the closest country to Russia in NATO. This is due to the fact that the Middle East project of the two countries is based on the same interests.

[dapper laurel]

Lithuania with less than 3 million inhabitants comes before India

[feral river]

China is the second but we are struggling to be the #1 😭

[green robin]

you should definitely read how a war helps military market to grow and its the best time to demonstrate new weapons

[feral river]

wait for another olympics americans

[shy summit]

Ya’ll got great divers. And Table tennis players

[dapper laurel]

EU First 🥇

[feral river]

almost lose to Japan....

[shy summit]

Try #7 hun

[feral river]

nvm that's no longer our table tennis anymore

[versed rain]

You can say this to any country. Turkey gave its vehicles close to free.

[manic juniper]

0 medals 🎗️

[feral river]

I was marked because I'm now in South Korea

[shy summit]

EU got 7th

[feral river]

I'm using South Korean internet now

[manic juniper]

Didn't know the EU was a country

[dapper laurel]

EU on top

[shy summit]

Sorry brittain

[manic juniper]

It isn't in the EU

[shy summit]

Englandians

[dapper laurel]

97 gold medals is just insane

[shy summit]

Yeah yeah

[versed rain]

does it mean if germany gives vehicles to ukraine it is sincerely and no for own benefit but if turkey gives it is just a misleading?

[feral river]

YOU OFFENDED BRITAIN 😭

[shy summit]

Brexit

[green robin]

True im not blaming tukiye for doing so.
Turkey helped ukraine for a reason

[manic juniper]

France highest place in the EU

[feral river]

btw what's going on with texit

I heard some news that Texas want to leave the US (they don't got a chance) but is that true ?

[dapper laurel]

It's a pity that their athletes are not native

[shy summit]

Texas? Oh they always threaten to leave. Never do. Kinda like the guy at the gym that asks you to hit him but never does shit

[versed rain]

Turkey has no ties with russia except S400 agreement and Syria issues.

[thorny steeple]

What you mean? Dawg

[feral river]

cool, just hold them for all the time

[manic juniper]

We need to reunite the South Slavic people under one flag 🇪🇺

[feral river]

that's your territory I respect US territorial sovereighty

[versed rain]

but as normal every country has reasons

[shy summit]

Texas wouldn’t leave cause they would lose all their resources they need

[dapper laurel]

All their athletes are not ethnically European/French

[shy summit]

They threaten it all the time

[feral river]

for what ?

[shy summit]

Because they think it makes them look tough

[dapper laurel]

I heard that Montenegro will join in the next few years

[feral river]

they think they are the big boys lmao

[thorny steeple]

Dayum that's crazy

[manic juniper]

Hope so, maybe alongside Albania since they don't have any issues going on

[thorny steeple]

Team Albania or team monte?

[versed rain]

with their economy?

[shy summit]

Yeaaaaah so big that they rejected using the same electrical grid as everyone else and everyone died in a blizzard down there

[feral river]

you got ur southern italy, why they can't have southern france ?

[shy summit]

Basically they think it makes them tough

[manic juniper]

Greece

[shy summit]

If you ask the rest of us it makes them dumb

[dapper laurel]

But at the same time I think that the more members join, the more unstable the union will be

[green robin]

Apart from not havin ties, turkiye cant really support russian out loud (NATO thingy)

[dapper laurel]

Their economy is not that bad

[thorny steeple]

Who want practise

[thorny steeple]

Best athletes since 2,000 years ago

[manic juniper]

They have less voting rights except for the countrywide vetoes

[versed rain]

@green robin Russia killed 41 turkish soldier at one day in Iraq. Turkey shot down Russian planes.

and jets

[dapper laurel]

Well, you're right 😂

[manic juniper]

I mean so does my country, we aren't many

Another reason why Ukraine and Turkey could hardly join is because of voting rights

[feral river]

anyway have fun guys, the supreme leader and the head of ministry of war is going to sleep, better not to have war when im sleeping cuz idk if you guys can win good night

[versed rain]

thats right but this is not meaning of turkey has good ties with russia

[shy summit]

Everyone thinks Texas when they think of the US… but Flordia Man has them beat….

[dapper laurel]

But aren't the richest countries in the union at risk of delocalization?

[thorny steeple]

And one with dealing with a war

[versed rain]

wdym

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[green robin]

Doesnt nato needs turkiye or turkiyye needs nato/

[dapper laurel]

Goodnight my supreme leader

[manic juniper]

In what way?

[versed rain]

turkey needs.

and nato too

[manic juniper]

There are too many people that would shift the voting power, especially in Turkey, Ukraine counts less because they're 38 millions or so

[green robin]

There's your answer

[versed rain]

turkey's military rank about 2th and 3th at nato

[dapper laurel]

In poorer countries there is cheap labor or lower taxes, so many companies could move their production sites

[manic juniper]

It could happen but what's more likely is that we will get more immigrants from those countries

[green robin]

mostly all nato countries have good ties with USA not turkiye

[manic juniper]

Besides there is a huge discrepancy amongst EU countries, if those get richer it's better

[versed rain]

yes, because turkey has big population and if turkey joins EU, it would make turkey first at voting rights.

[versed rain]

i dont wanna talk anymore

[dapper laurel]

This is true, but I'm not convinced that immigrants are always a good thing, in the end

[shy summit]

Immigration is a net positive thing when done correctly

[manic juniper]

There are already many of them in Croatia, Albanians used to immigrate to Italy so I wonder where they will move to this time

[versed rain]

im switching off my phone. See u guys. Good night

[manic juniper]

Likely in Germany

Goodnight 652 team

[dapper laurel]

Everybody goes to sleep, I'll do the same thing, goodnight guys

[manic juniper]

I'll be the last standing

[versed rain]

Hahahah

Sleepwalker

its really very funny

Swaying

[spring eagle]

Controversial

Türkiye needs only İslâm!
Türkler needs to remember their ancestors!

[versed rain]

wth

It's ridiculous

[versed rain]

its like that montenegro needs just christianism.

No country can exist in today's world with absurd ideas.

[spring eagle]

Idc about those shits

[versed rain]

No developed country in the modern era is ruled by religion.

[spring eagle]

I'm not talking about religion brotha

[versed rain]

For this to be true, you have to be living in a fantasy world.

[versed rain]

so what does islam mean?

[spring eagle]

Let them rule with Christianity... Why would I care?

[versed rain]

So you're contradicting yourself. Nothing changes.

[spring eagle]

Yusuf has to say that...
What a great name from our prophets

[versed rain]

Everyone knows how Turkey has been betrayed by Muslim countries.

[spring eagle]

Where's this Montenegro?

[versed rain]

search

[spring eagle]

I'm denoting Islam as a way of life not religion

[versed rain]

as small as macedonia

[thorny steeple]

Where Albania is

[spring eagle]

I don't know

[thorny steeple]

Up north

[versed rain]

U guys who wants sharia in Turkey from islamic countries dont know betrays.

[spring eagle]

Hey don't ask me man

[versed rain]

so u shouldnt ask anyone too.

[thorny steeple]

I meant where Albania is in

[spring eagle]

I didn't asked for that!!

[thorny steeple]

Southern Balkan

[spring eagle]

Hey are you crazy or crack?
When did I qs you?

[versed rain]

Islam will not change the country in any way. But yes, it would be better if there were better and honest people with Islam.

[versed rain]

are u kidding with me?

[versed rain]

.

[spring eagle]

Hey idk about Montenegro so i asked

[versed rain]

u behaved irrespective to john

[spring eagle]

I think you've misunderstandings

[versed rain]

he asked a question to u but u said why are u asking to me

[versed rain]

i dont wanna talk anymore

[spring eagle]

Irrespective

[versed rain]

thx

[spring eagle]

Coz I can't ans something which idk

[versed rain]

see u

[spring eagle]

Ok John I'm sorry for that

Balkan, Albania is a part of The Great Ottoman Empire Few years back

We call it as Osmanlı Devleti

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[spring eagle]

Hey it's John's problem not yours!

There's no valid reason in this..
I can't change your mind if you raise the flag of Liberal

[charred trail]

Hello everyone

About what you guys speaking

[main bison]

r u Eygptain?

هل انت مصری؟

[manic juniper]

Tengri

[thorny steeple]

Tengriism

[versed rain]

hey guys

Do u know ataturk's address to the Turkish youth.

[thorny steeple]

Fire away

[thorny steeple]

Which year

[versed rain]

Turkish Youth!

Your first duty is forever to preserve and to defend the turkish Independence and the Turkish Republic.

This is the very foundation of your existence and your future. This foundation is your most precious treasure. In the future, too, there may be malevolent people at home and abroad who will wish to deprive you of this treasure. If some day you are compelled to defend your independence and your republic, you must not tarry to weigh the possibilities and circumstances of the situation before taking up your duty. These possibilities and circumstances may turn out to be extremely unfavourable. The enemies conspiring against your independence and your republic, may have behind them a victory unprecedented in the annals of the world. It may be that, by violence and ruse, all the fortresses of your beloved fatherland may be captured, all its shipyards occupied, all its armies dispersed and every part of the country invaded. And sadder and graver than all these circumstances, those who hold power within the country may be in error, misguided and may even be traitors. Furthermore, they may indentify their personal interests with the political designs of the invaders. The country may be impoverished, ruined and exhausted.

Youth of turkey's future,

Even in such circumstances it is your duty to save the Turkish Independence and Republic.

You will find the strength you need in your noble blood.

Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

[versed rain]

1927

[thorny steeple]

It be awhile till I find it

I don't have it

But I can deep search for you

First time hearing of it

[versed rain]

Ataturk has a book called Nutuk.

[thorny steeple]

When was it published?

[weary belfry]

I never expected to see this message on this server tbh

[versed rain]

1 year before he died, he added this address to his book.

[versed rain]

1927

[thorny steeple]

Same year as the presentation

Was it translated to English?

[versed rain]

because of

He talked as long as 36 hour around a few days about Turkish independence war

And he turned these into a book

Atatürk's address to the youth is written in every educational place and book.

[thorny steeple]

Damn that's long, what do you need Yusuf

[versed rain]

please read carefully

[versed rain]

i dont need anything.

This is the front page to inspire the entire Turkish nation.

of educational books

[thorny steeple]

Okey, read all of it?

[versed rain]

yes, around entire turkish people know address to the youth and Turkiye's National Independence March

thats how turkish people love their country

[thorny steeple]

So much that Ataturk isn't in a Lenin style tumb

[versed rain]

we love our country and founders of our country

[thorny steeple]

I thought Ataturk was the only founder

[versed rain]

Together with Atatürk and his comrades in arms

[thorny steeple]

Save turkey from being carved like a literal turkey 🦃

[versed rain]

https://youtu.be/QI-VxtAv46Q?feature=shared
This is a turkish folkmusic which is one of Ataturk's most liked.

good night

[thorny steeple]

Have a fulfilling night

Binging on videos

And not get bored

[whole beacon]

Does it mention kurdistan ?

[thorny steeple]

Or the Assyrians

[whole beacon]

Oooh
Gd qs

[thorny steeple]

Yoo let's talk about Stalin

Did Stalin killed 17 millions of people

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

He sure did

[turbid harbor]

stalin killed a stalinion people transferred a stalinion others outside of ussr and fifth columned another stalinion

[thorny steeple]

Okey 👍

[static pivot]

Morning

[obsidian lodge]

socialism when stalin does stuff

[obtuse perch]

Ewwwwwww serious

[mighty widget]

Hello

[viscid ferry]

hi

[mighty widget]

how are you

[viscid ferry]

great as always what about you

[mighty widget]

im fine thank you

[twin quest]

still not comparable to mao

[feral river]

He killed those people ? What’s the order of kill those people

If you mention Stalin killed 17 million nazis sure he did

[versed rain]

No

[feral river]

there's no kurdistan on the map

idk why you guys obsessed on non-existing states

just like if you say it it will be exist lmao

"regimes born from guns" - Mao zedong

[spring eagle]

Gök Tengri huh?

[spring eagle]

He wants you to believe in his Foolish ideas

Lanet olsun Atatürk Shaytaani🩴

[whole beacon]

We are not concerned with the quotes of a nasty dictators

[whole beacon]

Too bad.
Since he was the one who deprived an entire narion from establishing a sovereignty.

[supple kettle]

hi

[merry ermine]

hiii

[feral river]

nasty dictator kicked american ass, soviet ass, eu ass, american puppet's ass, then rise up become a global power

can you just give me another nasty dictator on power 😭 we need more such guy

[supple kettle]

?

[whole beacon]

Stalin.
U love that guy as i remember.
I would expect it from someone like u. Amazingly brainwashed.

[feral river]

please give me more brainwash like that

[whole beacon]

Ur Chinese.
Ur in the perfect place dw

[feral river]

yeah more please

[supple kettle]

why u want like that ?

[feral river]

do you like someone saying what you are going to say ?

[supple kettle]

idk, :)) cause i'm never being in position like that :))

[feral river]

you don't need to be intelligent with stupid people

[supple kettle]

ehm...ok

[feral river]

they are repeating the same shit over and over again

[whole beacon]

Hmm u think repeating facts is stupid.

Poooph, there goes rationality

[feral river]

thinks I really give a shit lmao

[feral river]

till now you didn't bring any demostration

what can I say huh ?

repeating the same shit over and over again

[supple kettle]

If it's bad, simply don't do it again

[feral river]

that's what he do lmao

[whole beacon]

I think ( killed over 40 million people due to starvation, forced labor and mass execution)
Is all i need.
But u with ur ( brainwashed mind)
Say : no ur stupid.
U really have a mental age of a 98 year old.

One who is not sane.

[feral river]

you can need some western propaganda nothing wrong

[whole beacon]

Any way. Cya.
Coffe awaits

[supple kettle]

byee

[feral river]

till now you still can't answer any of my question on your statement 🤣

repeat the same shit, oh this is a nasty dictator oh he killed these people

dude you killed these people what if I say ?

[supple kettle]

[feral river]

you are the nasty dictator, you killed those people

[whole beacon]

[feral river]

what if I say something like this

lmao dude don't fool urself

[supple kettle]

then you considered a foolish person

[feral river]

what did I just said earlier

you don't need to be intelligent with stupid people

[whole beacon]

Alr

[supple kettle]

I'm just saying common sense

[feral river]

dude ur done

[supple kettle]

[whole beacon]

I could care less.

[feral river]

you better start off with some demostrations to proof your point I would like to say something

not repeat the same shit

[whole beacon]

Debating with the likes of u is like loosing air.
Just don't resolve to ad hominems.and we ar all cool

[feral river]

do lose your air

why would i give a fuck lmao

are you my taxpayer ?

[supple kettle]

Don't talk so rudely, dude, calm down

[whole beacon]

U wonna visit another channel

Just wondering

[feral river]

that's what he said

[supple kettle]

We're just arguing, some people are right, some people are wrong so it's okay

just chill

[feral river]

I do chill relax buddy 🤣 I deal with thousand of those type of people so no worries

[whole beacon]

Thousands ?
Lol

[supple kettle]

forgive it bro

don't metion it 🙂

[whole beacon]

Tune it down. Cuz u will be raising a ticket when someone decides to break hell loose on u.
Cuz u have been so carless.
And just hell bent on winning a not so glamorous usless debate.

[feral river]

your suggestion is I do raise that ticket first ?

that's literally a good idea

[runic current]

hey

i want to find an english learning partner

[supple kettle]

maybe i can help u find

[runic current]

thanks

[whole beacon]

That ticket will be disregarded.
Don't play games here.
Be respectful.

[runic current]

but how?

[supple kettle]

suggestion

u want to practise english to communicate or train to test IELTs?

[runic current]

communicate and train for exhange program between my county and usa

[supple kettle]

oh, u same target as me 🙂

[runic current]

if i success i will travel to us

[runic current]

wow

[supple kettle]

how long do u have free time in day?

[median temple]

Most of them are scams

[runic current]

like 2 hours

[runic current]

nah its from government

[supple kettle]

with me, i learn NativeX
but i'm not sure is available in your country

[runic current]

where r u from?

[supple kettle]

Vietnam

[runic current]

oh

[supple kettle]

btw, if u want, just dms me and i will try reply ealier in my ability
i gotta go, bye

[versed rain]

Ataturk considered everyone on the borders of Turkey to be Turks. He did not discriminate, and at that time there was no issue of Kurdistan. Turks and Kurds were fighting for Turkey.

[thorny steeple]

Hi 😊 guys do you have any story or fairytale books for a)1-2

[thorny steeple]

Ya it's right 🥲

[feral river]

well idk why you are not respecting one's sovereighty and territory

there's no sovereighty state called kurdistan

and it will not happen

[versed rain]

western propaganda because there was no problem before 1990's. Turkey didnt help or bahaved in side of USA after 1990's too much. Then USA created this absurd idea of Kurdistan.

[dapper laurel]

I have a nice joke to make

But I won't do it

[versed rain]

Although USA is an ally. However, in the 1990s, Turkey was portrayed as bad because Turkey did not support American projects other except NATO issues.

[thorny steeple]

What? 🤔

[versed rain]

And USA created this idea to intimidate. In addition, America's rulers are pro-Zionist by origin. The Kurdistan that the U.S. wants in Turkey is largely the same as the territory in Israel's Greater Israeli project.

If the U.S. approached Turkey as an ally, everything would be fine, but just like an enemy.

[dapper laurel]

Greater israel is a conspiracy theory supported by antisemitic organizations

[versed rain]

The U.S. does not want power in the region because of the oil pool in the Middle East. Turkey recently wanted to negotiate with Iraq and Assad, but the United States refused. Russia supported Turkey because Russia does not want the United States in the Middle East.

[versed rain]

However, it does not seem like it at all. At least they don't say they don't have such a demand.

[gentle panther]

its always nice to see someone who knows what he is talking about and reference his insights while being respectful. 🫡 thank you sir, I'm happy to see someone inform others on near-past historical occurrences and political approaches of Türkiye.

[versed rain]

In other words, Turkey is not acting as radically as it is touted. Turkey wants to protect himself in the region and strengthen the region.

Have u ever seen a country which is good and improved by USA?

America thinks selfishly of itself.

[dapper laurel]

Well, it is about maintaining their world order and hegemony, if Turkey wants to threaten their power, well, they have the right to respond. I think the fundamental problem is that the Turkish government isn't pro-Western, consequently many of its interests collide with those of Europe and the United States. I am convinced that if Turkey was a perfect democracy based on real electoral models, then the United States would let it have influence in the Middle East, but for now Turkey is a Russian ally or borderline between west and Russia. They have also moved closer to BRICS in recent times

[dapper laurel]

Well, Europe become one of the richest areas in the world thanks to the capitalist intervention of the United States

[manic juniper]

Kosovo

Another genocide was avoided

[versed rain]

what a good result

[manic juniper]

I'd say that avoiding genocide and existing as a country is a good result

Personally I'd be satisfied

[versed rain]

Yes, most of the time their interests clash with America. I hope that with the new government, these will be resolved.

[dapper laurel]

🇽🇰👐🏻👐🏻🇦🇱

[versed rain]

And Turkey in a harsh situation. Turkey wanna get into big economical union.

This is not about anti-USA or Europe. Turkey gets %30 tax from european products but %60 from china.

[dapper laurel]

The problem is that Turkey wants to get benefits from both sides, it rejects European and American influence, but claims the economic benefits

[versed rain]

wdym with american influence?

[dapper laurel]

American influence would be the weight that American political decisions have on your territory, Europe is strongly influenced by America, for example, but obtains great economic advantages, while turkey rejects every form of American influence but claims EU or NATO support

This is the main reason for the discrepancies

[versed rain]

Because Turkey wanna be in independence.

And rejecting American influence doesnt mean that Turkey should exit from nato etc

NATO doesnt mean USA.

[versed rain]

i know

[versed rain]

i can just say that it will be better if there is a new government

[feral river]

it would also affect Russia if you guys get into the EU the post Soviet countries in Baku region will more likely to get into it that Russia would take action to response it

they still holding the territory of Georgia because they want to join the EU

[prisma cipher]

Yea it was terrible result.

[versed rain]

The vast majority of Turkish people hate Russia, but they think that the bad influence from Russia is less than that from America.

Because Turkey does not find a great American influence in the region sincere. Interests also share with Russia.

[manic juniper]

That's sensible

[manic juniper]

Let's place NATO bases there then 🦾

[versed rain]

Turkey does not want the evil of America, but at the same time it wants regional independence.

[feral river]

so ww3 starts

[versed rain]

So doesnt want influence

[feral river]

im sure Russia is becoming more careless about war and conflict since they are having one right now

they just need to create more mess to benefit themselves

[manic juniper]

Why didn't it start already since we joined NATO and we are much bigger than small Georgia

[feral river]

well I think that's kind of different you guys are independent from Russia for a very long time and you guys have a robust military

[manic juniper]

If Georgia joins in your scenario their economy would be integrated in the EU

[feral river]

Georgia can't even match the militias in Chechnya

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/fresco-sublimation-intervention-intervention-now-us-army-intervention-gif-26404530

[manic juniper]

Article 5 👢

[dapper laurel]

But it resisted an invasion by the 2nd militarily strongest country

[feral river]

that will be the ww3

[dapper laurel]

I hope

[versed rain]

🇹🇷💪NATO

[feral river]

they stopped taking over more territory doesn't mean you win lol

and Russia is the 3rd militarily strongest now

[dapper laurel]

In fact I said that they resisted the invasion

[versed rain]

which is 2th?

[manic juniper]

I don't even believe it ever was second lmao

[feral river]

PRC

[dapper laurel]

🇨🇳

[feral river]

my country

[versed rain]

why?

[feral river]

because we are

[versed rain]

because of more torture of east turkestan?

[feral river]

idk what you are talking about, be respect to our sovereighty

since I even respect you guys sovereighty over kurdish region

[dapper laurel]

Because if Russia ever decided to declare war on China, they would be erased by their industrial power and military innovations

[feral river]

ah we are supplying Russia anyway

[prisma cipher]

Because no one cares about Finland. We don't have problem with Finland and and there is no threat from Finland

[versed rain]

because we dont torture kurdish civillians. We fight with border terrorists.

[prisma cipher]

Different things is Ukrainian or Georgia

[manic juniper]

Then Georgia would be the same, cheers

[feral river]

we don't torture Chinese citizens, we crack down on terrorists and extremists and separatists

[prisma cipher]

It not about how big it is

[manic juniper]

It's about being a threat, something that Georgia isn't

[prisma cipher]

We will see

[feral river]

what beautiful Xinjiang it is

[prisma cipher]

I see some pro Russian activity from Georgia, looks like they start to understand something

[feral river]

what a nice city under you guys keep saying the place of prosecution

that's not so true lmao

[manic juniper]

When you fear another invasion you obviously change stance, happens all the times

[prisma cipher]

As for Finland, we are of course making military efforts on the border with Finland because of joining NATO, but there is no threat from this side for us.

My honest opinion about Finland in NATO

[feral river]

why don't you invade them first if you are fear about invasion ?

[manic juniper]

We know what happened to the USSR when they did that

[prisma cipher]

They got scared and join NATO, I can understand that

[manic juniper]

It isn't a very good idea to invade out of inexistent fears

[versed rain]

cant Russia be friend uf USA?

[prisma cipher]

Yea it happens in 90th worst time

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-sad-neil-patrick-harris-gif-14601510

[versed rain]

they may be strategic ally

[prisma cipher]

After 90th friendship with USA you understand USSR propaganda not just propaganda

[feral river]

what happened ?

idk about it

[manic juniper]

They showed to the world, especially Nazi Germany, that their military wasn't worth much in 1939

[feral river]

but they beat the nazi ass

and put the flag on the congress of germans

[manic juniper]

In 1939? Lol

[prisma cipher]

there are very few options here where we could be allies with USA. it could be an alien invasion, or an alliance against china

[feral river]

well at the last

remember this pic ?

[manic juniper]

Yes, after an alliance with some of the strongest countries in the world, getting supplied my them, and the enemy was at war on multiple fronts almost on its own

[prisma cipher]

What she talking about you know what it means, I took two years to become super strong army.

[feral river]

they didn't really get supply in battle of moscow, and only few guns in the battle of stalingrad

[manic juniper]

Do you also think that USA beating the shit out of Iraq was a huge feat?

[prisma cipher]

We fighting with Ukrainian two year it's different army now.

[manic juniper]

Yes, the Nazis were next to the capital

[feral river]

the truth is your supply come from after the most decisive and important battle with germans

[prisma cipher]

Two year of training

[manic juniper]

I don't think that's a great feat on their part

[dapper laurel]

Only 14 km

[manic juniper]

Now I don't think Germany would've ever won because of logistics and supplies. But that was dangerously close

[versed rain]

Are people called to war in Russia?

[feral river]

I think they could win if they don't invade Soviets

[versed rain]

Are the fronts just like the world war?

[manic juniper]

They would've never won against UK

But maybe they could take over a lot of Eastern Europe

[feral river]

UK was being ass kicked in africa and europe

[thorny steeple]

Fr mao killed 51 millions

[manic juniper]

And maybe southeastern Europe too

[feral river]

the truth is the most nazi troops goes into Soviet Union

that's the iron truth

[thorny steeple]

No he killed 17 millions from Soviet union in the revolution

[feral river]

and they were destroyed by Soviets

[manic juniper]

They won

[feral river]

not allies

[feral river]

when Soviets entered poland

lmao at that time they are already done

[versed rain]

Is the Russia-Ukraine war like in the movies?

[feral river]

is there a revolution without death ?

[thorny steeple]

But he killed all dissagrees

[feral river]

so ?

[thorny steeple]

Ppl

[versed rain]

is it like modernised version of war?

[feral river]

I wonder why he can't ?

because you got some troops ?

[manic juniper]

The allies won in Africa and they are the reason why Italy didn't have any colony anymore

[feral river]

RIP Southern italy

[manic juniper]

No they work in smaller units, both sides do

[thorny steeple]

Ppl were doing what he wants fearing from being die . Some people from Soviet union in WW2 were afraid to fight. Anyone doesn't want to fight kill them even the women haha

[feral river]

but you guys really won the war against german in africa in the late end of the war

[feral river]

no demostration and evidence ?

[prisma cipher]

@versed rain we pay USA for war supplies from ww2 until 2016 talking about good friends. I don't remember exactly what year it was but close to 2016

If USA helping you you will pay for it.

[thorny steeple]

Play call of duty 1 . They put stories of soldiers in the war

[versed rain]

I would like to come back to the subject of Turkey. Turkey's rapprochement with BRICS is based on the view that the West will never fully accept Turkey.

Do you really think that the West has completely accepted Turkey? Always like a stepchild.

[thorny steeple]

Turkey fked up in WW1 . Bro they shouldn't enter the war against Russia and England

Actually turkey was going to be the strongest country after this war

If they didn't enter it

By bombing some Russian ships

[manic juniper]

We shouldn't

In fact we should suspend any support to Hungary as well

[versed rain]

German soldiers bombed russian port with ottoman warship.

Turkey get into war because of them.

[versed rain]

Why?

You guys never give us the opportunity.

And you're always complaining.

You always act against the interests of our country and expect a good response.

[manic juniper]

What opportunity is there to give...? Don't you know Erdogan better lol

[versed rain]

I am not talking about Erdogan era

[thorny steeple]

Do u mean that Germans ride those ships by own themselves or Turkish soldiers let them to do that

[versed rain]

I talk about general.

[manic juniper]

I'm talking about the current year

There is no accepting Turkey and there shouldn't be any Hungary in the EU either

[thorny steeple]

if Ww3 will begin who gonna be the opponents

[versed rain]

2 german warship settled next to turkish ports and ottoman empire bought them. Then they missed the warship and bombed russian ports.

[thorny steeple]

I see

[versed rain]

yes hungary shouldnt but we think u guys will never accept us as a good ally if we make everything for ur benefits

I dont think myself that am i really accepting as a human being.

I think that Europeans are at the level of friends with western Europe and America.

In other words, even if Turkey allows all kinds of situations, I don't think it will be completely accepted by the Europeans.

as an ally

[manic juniper]

Why would we, after the occupation of Cyprus

[turbid veldt]

Different interests and different geopolitical situations

[versed rain]

because greek Cypriots were terrorists, do u know eoka?

[manic juniper]

The junta was bad, but keeping the occupation isn't any better

[versed rain]

i recommend to search bloody christmas.

[manic juniper]

The Greek junta collapsed and the Turkish occupation expanded

[versed rain]

Because no country has taken precautions. Turkey itself rescued Turkish citizens.

[manic juniper]

Who was there to rescue after they already lost?

[versed rain]

turkey

Do you think you can do whatever you want to everyone and then put a policy out there?

Genocide was committed against the Turks there. No one can deny this. Today, if anyone wants Kurdistan even though there is no genocide in Turkey, they have to support the Turkish government because of the genocide in Cyprus.

[manic juniper]

Do you think you can violate international law and then be accepted as if it's all good...?

[turbid veldt]

The USA and UK just ignored the mass killings in Cyprus and tried to solve the problem with "negotiation and peace talks" I mean you can't just watch EOKA and Cypriot junta to kill peoples

[feral river]

I don't understand why you guys always talking genocide or something

[versed rain]

hahaha, USA is the most country that follows the rules

[versed rain]

because we are angry a lot about genocides against us. No one support us but everyone may support terrorists.

[feral river]

bud, that rule

do you really care that rule ?

[feral river]

no I mean

I mean you guys really care about genocide thing ?

[versed rain]

what a rule? USA can invade Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Palestine but turkey cannot support and protect right?

[feral river]

it's insane if you have to follow a rule without enforcement

[manic juniper]

Isn't this whataboutism, we are talking about Cyprus

[feral river]

the rule without enforcement is a toilet paper

isn't it

[manic juniper]

Support≠occupation

[versed rain]

If you can't say anything to America, you can't say anything to Turkey.

[manic juniper]

? I'm not in charge, if I was I would condemn both

[versed rain]

yes, i wanna solve this problem with just a common management like Turkish-Greek common management

[manic juniper]

Blaming USA is just an excuse to shift the blame

[feral river]

idk why you guys keep using a toilet paper rule to say other sucks

i dont get it

i don't really freaking get it

[turbid veldt]

Turkey tried unifying Cyprus with "Plan Annan"

[feral river]

really really didn't get it

why would I care a freak rule that doesn't have any enforcement

how does that make any sense

[versed rain]

There should be a single administration in Cyprus. That should be the Greek-Turkish government. @manic juniper

[feral river]

Cyprus is under your control ofc that's yours

how could you give that territory to greeks

[dapper laurel]

No sense for turkey in unifying Cyprus when that is a non-Turkish state

[versed rain]

are u kidding me?

[feral river]

are you kidding me ? you are separating your country

if you are in China maybe you are already in some police office

[versed rain]

just a half

[feral river]

yeah the nothern cyprus is under your control

why would you give that half to greeks ?

[turbid veldt]

I mean Turkish government was verry eager to unify Cyprus under coalition government with both Turks and Cypriots. They even did a referandum in 2004

Cypriots refused the plan

[versed rain]

Cyprus belongs to both Turks and Greeks. Don't be ridiculous racist.

[feral river]

I wonder why Turkish didn't put their robust military in cyprus to take over the other half after they finished their job in syria

that's quite strange

[versed rain]

we dont give if there is no common government.

[feral river]

why would that be

why there should have a common government

[manic juniper]

UK military bases

[feral river]

why can't you guys do something under your own rule

make yourself as the only common government

? I don't get it

[versed rain]

because turkey just made operation in cyprus. Then they didnt acvept common management and we didnt give back

[dapper laurel]

It was almost entirely Greek before you occupied it

[manic juniper]

Yes

[turbid veldt]

Population exchange happened after 1969

[feral river]

remember how historically greek kicked turkish ass

they betaryed the great ottoman empire

they invaded turkish land, and they got ass fucked

[versed rain]

there is should be common management for democracy. U cannot deny

[feral river]

that's not what you guys need

you guys need only one government, only one turkish government for entirety of cyprus

that's what you guys need, and greek is going to contain it

[versed rain]

noone supports.

Dont be radical

[feral river]

then heading to lose ? why

why no one supports it

are they not turkish ?

or you can start with some small operation like annexation of nothern cyprus

then go try south

I believe your military has that capability to take over all of it

Turkish military is powerful

[manic juniper]

Even the British military bases?

[feral river]

hummm maybe no, just southern cyprus

they can't beat the british for sure

remember there is a way that you can solve it by military

[dapper laurel]

Well, Cyprus is part of the European Union and there would be heavy sanctions that would collapse the Turkish economy

[feral river]

economy above territory ? I don't think so

economy based on territory.

[versed rain]

1)In 1969, the Greek fascist terrorist organization EOKA was an organization that targeted Muslims and Turks in Cyprus.
2)EOKA started killing the Turkish Cypriot people, arson their homes and raping their children.
3)Turkey asked the government for a solution, but it was refused. Turkey wanted to unite with other countries and intimidate EOKA, but they refused.
3)Turkey landed on the island to protect the Turks. He operated until he destroyed EOKA. Just like the United States.
4)Then he wanted to connect the dots he occupied for a solution, but the administration did not want to. A joint assembly was also not formed.
4)And then the Turkish administration was created.

[feral river]

especially strategic regions, like cyprus

[dapper laurel]

Well, that territory would be useless for their economy

[feral river]

territory means economy possibility, space for living, resources, national powers

economy is just economy

[versed rain]

we didnt need it at that years.

[feral river]

you can't just compare with these 2 factors they are not on the same stage

if you have no territory you have no economy

you don't even have a space for living

there's no any inch of territory is waste on the earth

especially strategic regions, Cyprus

[manic juniper]

I don't think that UK would just sit while the island's power balance shifts like that

[dapper laurel]

The German territory was greatly reduced after the world wars, but remained the major industrial center of Europe

[feral river]

I don't think that UK would moblize their military to do a full intervention against Turkish

Turkish military is just not bad they can have a fight against british

[dapper laurel]

The economy does not depend on the territory, but on the people who live there

[feral river]

they would be more better if they kept that

[manic juniper]

What's the point of keeping a military base there if they don't intend to use it...?

[feral river]

remember they are a global power before

now they are just a regional power under america leadership

they lose their thrones they lose their supremacies they lose their territory they lose their potential

they lose the war

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I think next turkish government will not recognize Northern cyprus. Maybe they will acvept armenian genocide and they may give autonomous Kurdistan.

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hey

[feral river]

that's the darkest day of turkish people if that happens

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why?

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why?

[feral river]

what you can get from that

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In the end, acknowledging the genocide will have no effect. They will accept it like germany

[manic juniper]

Do you recognise the Armenian genocide?

[manic juniper]

It's never bad to acknowledge a country's flaws

[feral river]

I believe you got nothing from these even lose your territorial adminstration rights

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i dont have too much knowledge but there is no massacre culture in Turkish culture.

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who will accept?

i dont get this

[feral river]

how dare you can give those land to kurdish

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maybe next turkish government because they are pro-european and pro-democratic

[feral river]

I don't get it

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yeah thank you

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Time will tell.

[feral river]

what ?

are you a kurdish ?

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im turkish

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Im kazakh

hehehe

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But I say this can happen. It can be autonomy.

[dapper laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_during_the_Greek_War_of_Independence#Cyprus

[feral river]

you can accept them to be an antonomy

that's insane

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i said i dont know

[feral river]

what if some part of your home like toilet and say they want independence

what you will do

give them ?

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skibidi toilet

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Military resentment will be on the Turks anyway. they will only have their own administration

[feral river]

that was a potential continous threat to turkish nation

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Call the camera mans and war with skibidi toilets

[feral river]

don't you know they are uprising all the time ?

dare you give them the land you will pay for it

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i know. If this happens, the Turkish military will step in.

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And TVmans too

[feral river]

I thought you guys are enough with it and going to crack down on them

you said give them I just don't get it

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There will still be conflict on the borders, but they will be able to govern themselves in a variety of ways.

[feral river]

why don't you eliminate this threat

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we are enough

[feral river]

that will prevent such thing

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because most of kurdish people wants

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forever

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and how can we kill them?

[feral river]

so you are the kurdish ?

you are turkish, you are not freaking kurdish

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i am not!

[feral river]

you are turkish dude, turkish, great turkish

not kurdish

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turkish brotherrs

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You didn't speak like that when you were insulting the Turks just now?

[feral river]

no

I mean turks are great, they have a great country which is Republic of Turkey

but I can't believe someone would support something against their great nation

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hey

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?

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someone say me?

okay bye

[feral river]

I was damn confused because you say kurdish wants it

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it is not against the nation. Dont understand me? They will just have special management. They will not independent

[feral river]

you are not kurdish why would you give that to them

[feral river]

why they can have special management for free

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Because too many soldiers are dying.

and political

[feral river]

you mean turkish soldier suffering from kurdish ?

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i dont say

I don't want to hear any more martyr news

Maybe it's 1 or 2 a month

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then got them fucked up forever you will never hear it again

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but enough

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I belive if you give them they will get more power and seek more autonomyh

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it would be a genocide

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how ?

you don't need to kill all of them

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kurdish people in turkey are around 10-15 million. And most of them wants kurdistan

[feral river]

send some settlers, practice martial laws, crack down on terrorists, and built camps

that's all you can do no need for kill them

[feral river]

idk what you guys treat separatists, in China we will just kill them

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This is undemocratic

[feral river]

who separate China, who gets killed according to our law

it's the top national security

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already we fight with terrorists

it will not change. And there will no terrorist.

they will just have the right to govern themselves

We will still fight those who are linked to terrorism

[feral river]

got a chance to get money and recruit more fighters

I don't get it for all

that was catastropic if you give them a chance like this

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This situation concerns the state. Not me.

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I don't think it's a good idea, it will create the Kurdish version of Hamas

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yeah

[feral river]

so what's your solution ? kill all of them ?

that's literally genocide and no benefit to turkey

[manic juniper]

It's the same outcome, once you start your cruelty it'll just radicalise more people. That's not something you want to have

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They should still have a Turkish administration above them and protect them from terrorists, but they should have an autonomous region as they want.

[feral river]

they already started numerous terrorist attack against turkey didn't they

[feral river]

you can invade Syria for create an autonomous region for them

that was a good idea for you guys

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As I said, the money they earn in their autonomy should be constantly monitored. It should not go to terrorists, but it should also have autonomous regions. This will calm them down and Turkey will not have a political problem.

[manic juniper]

Yes, but their current manpower is not as big as it could potentially be, the thing about these terrorist organisations is that they appeal to oppression and strong emotions, once you give them any validity they will keep growing in numbers

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we just make operations

[feral river]

special military operations I know you dude

that was a good idea fr

[feral river]

so they can just slowly put them into their new occupation area of Syria

and solve this problem ultimately

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we should send syrians refugees to syria at first. Not kurds

[manic juniper]

I don't think that occupying regions is that profitable anymore, Syria would be a net negative

[feral river]

that's not true lol

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We should also do these special military operations in Albania, Tunisia, Greece, Croatia, Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, Libya and France, this would help us to restore our historical territories

[manic juniper]

Do you think that Spain should conquer Morocco?

Or that Italy should conquer Libya

[feral river]

well... that cost so much

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It wouldn't be that bad

[feral river]

I don't think they can sucessfully take over morocco without effort

[feral river]

also for italy they don't have that power to conquer them effortlessly

and they gonna pay for it

[dapper laurel]

It was our historical territory, like the whole Mediterranean and part of central Europe for that matter

[manic juniper]

They cannot, but it's just pointless, you create terrorism, you have to spend more because Morocco is underdeveloped, and you get a huge amount of immigrants that Spain already doesn't want

[manic juniper]

I know but in current times it's just a drag to the economy