🧠｜serious-chat

[turbid harbor]

by us i mean in a two people vc

[feral river]

well that's just a crap don't take it so far

[shy summit]

I can’t vc atm

[feral river]

that's all okay you guys need to say this is holocaust

[turbid harbor]

okay

[feral river]

that's political correctness I can understand it

everywhere has political correctness

[shy summit]

Thats factual correctness

[turbid harbor]

FUCKING

ENOUGH

[feral river]

you can consider that's factual correctness but I don't give a shit

[turbid harbor]

OH MY GOD im going to back to my thesis good luck nale

[feral river]

like someone saying his god is the real thing or something

or santa is real ?

[shy summit]

Its fact

[feral river]

that's fact with subjective judge

like say fcked up

[shy summit]

Like this is not even up for debate

[feral river]

well you can literally say anything you don't like as holocaust

[turbid harbor]

ok yeah this is just moronic now

YOU DONT LIKE THE HOLOCAUST????????

[thorny steeple]

hi im new

[feral river]

wym

[turbid harbor]

jesus what kind of reduction is that im not gonna dumb down systemic genocides to shit i "like" or "dislike"

[feral river]

no I just don't consider that's a holocaust, that's just a certain event happened

[turbid harbor]

welcome, you came at the wrong time

[thorny steeple]

oh why so

[feral river]

it has reason, it has intention it has result

and it has aftermath

I don't think you can't understand since you know Mao zedong thing

[turbid harbor]

whatever man this is one of those situations where limited language conventions isnt helping in getting your points across. tidy up your diction and i'll bother getting back to you

[fathom fjord]

it is actually the best moment to come, one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen here

[feral river]

my freaking point is, holocaust is a truth with subjective judge

done

[thorny steeple]

lol goodie

[shy summit]

Imagine thinking the holocaust is fake

[feral river]

I don't think it's fake holocaust is a TRUTH with subjective judge

you added judge because you used the word holocaust

[shy summit]

Its the name of that event

[feral river]

I do understand english

holocaust is definitely not 'holocaust' without meaning

[dapper laurel]

Did someone say the Holocaust is fake?

That's concerning

[shy summit]

Yeah minecraft is doing it in a roundabout way

[dapper laurel]

Really?

[feral river]

my idea is so damn clear that only contain in one sentence

[thorn lagoon]

His english is bad

[feral river]

I'm not a stupid phd holder I don't need a bunch of sentences to explain a simple thing

[dapper laurel]

Just tell me what really happened

[thorn lagoon]

Just saying I can't comprehend what you were saying

[feral river]

she mentioned holocaust to Jewish people in WW2 and I was stating my point is you can say that's holocaust because it contained your personal judge by moral or political correctness or sth I don't specifically say it

and talk about other shit because she don't understand

[dapper laurel]

Well, guys, just chill out

[feral river]

like talking to a people, oh damn how dare you can say something to our leader ?

[dapper laurel]

Let's change the topic

[feral river]

what the heck

[dapper laurel]

They didn't censor the word shit

Hahja, how fun, now I can say "shit" freely

[feral river]

cherish our freedom

[feral river]

dude no offense I don't think you don't comprehend it since you make so many complicate sentences that confuse me every time I try to get its meaning

[versed rain]

Hi guys

Why didn't the fuck happen to adventurer from explorer.

what does it mean?

[feral river]

well bro someone like to say a simple thing complicated make them a little bit intelligent to stupid people so

I'm a capitalist man with efficient ofc I don't give a shit to someone holding phds

they are my worker not my boss

[versed rain]

Uh, i think i am around A2-B1. Nothing will change if i select "advanced" but u said a fact, right.

[jade knot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/768629837539311627/1152828426340806726/fliege_fliegt_gif.gif

[versed rain]

On the back it is written that the peasant is the master of the nation. @dapper laurel d u know this man?

[versed rain]

wth, how can u be capitalist in china?

[shy summit]

Lmfao

[versed rain]

I am so confused.

i think china is the biggest communist country

uhhhh

ok

thanks bro

[rose eagle]

Happy Vietnam National Day!!!🇻🇳

[lime jolt]

I’m thinking to get a boob job

[dapper laurel]

The peasant is the heart of a nation, but the intellectual is the real brain, the real master

In every political system, it has always been the aristocrats and the bourgeoisie who have held the highest positions and unfortunately it will always be like this

[thorny steeple]

You actually need one

[versed rain]

maybe i will be a president. It would not be like today

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19493614

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-john-f-kennedy-jack-john-john-kennedy-gif-22408598

[feral river]

lol

I would say China's never communist

[versed rain]

everyone knows that CIA killed rip JFK.

[feral river]

but state-capitalism under authoritarian rule

if USSR ever communist that must be the brief time under Lenin rule

even under Stalin's rule it was not communist

[thorny steeple]

Nonsense

[versed rain]

JFK was the biggest USA president. He was acting to their allyies as allyies.

[versed rain]

Why was the suspect killed by the police where all the cops were?

And why wasn't there an assassination check on nearby buildings?

[thorny steeple]

Now or in the history?

[versed rain]

so far

[thorny steeple]

USSR

[versed rain]

enemy

[thorny steeple]

Wdym

[versed rain]

Im from turkey, USSR was just an enemy of NATO.

[thorny steeple]

Ofc, being the biggest enemy to USA means the biggest enemy to its allies

[versed rain]

thats so

NATO already united against USSR.

[thorny steeple]

Is turkey a member in europe union or not ?

[versed rain]

No, Turkey is a candidate. Turkey is near to European diplomacy than Asian diplomacy. I dont hear word of asia on a day.

[thorny steeple]

I see

[versed rain]

btw where are u from?

[thorny steeple]

Morocco

[versed rain]

uh, is morocco angry with spain?

[thorny steeple]

Not that much, we have some political issues, also morocco requires some lands from spain under the spanish sovereignty that was historically moroccan, but our relationship is still good also with the spanish people, we even gonna organize the wc 2030 together

[cinder quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1074670102231924747/1276978142531289171/Leva_classic.gif

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sandwich-kitten-guh-buff-eat-bread-gif-3622462840155564177

[versed rain]

USA protected Turkey's coup attempt leader Fethullah Gulen in 2016. Fethullah Gulen escaped to USA to avoid from Turkish Justice. In the coup attempt Capadocia was a key word for terrorist Fethullah Gulen's terrorist group FETO and PKK. USA shared this photo of Capadocia. This is not a coincidence.

Capadocia means "land forces" for FETO.

[thorny steeple]

Damnnnn

[shy summit]

I think you’re looking too much into it

[versed rain]

No this situation is popular in Turkey right now.

[warped scroll]

[shy summit]

Again you’re looking for meaning where there is none

[feral river]

idk why you guys can tolerant some western influences even try to overthrow your government

that's insane

or it's just because you guys are vulnerable against them ?

[versed rain]

But why capadocia? Although USA supported the terrorist who tried to overthrow the Turkish government.

[feral river]

isn't USSR a good example of how western propaganda destroyed the communist rule

[versed rain]

Because we are allies.

If USA doesnt make any problem against us, we dont use bad communication ways.

[shy summit]

What do you mean by bad communication

@versed rain

[versed rain]

Erdogan can take an angry stance against the United States or especially deploy troops to Syria.

[shy summit]

We already did

[versed rain]

Syria policy is disrupting America's plan.

[manic juniper]

They kinda destroyed themselves

[versed rain]

@warped scroll why do u act "laugh" at me in every message?

[shy summit]

Because you’re speakin pretty conspiratorially

[versed rain]

It's not what the U.S. doesn't do.

[feral river]

I didn't see North Korea destroyed themselves then they even got a famine

[manic juniper]

They were baited by USA and the western world into overspending in defence and they suddenly changed a stagnating economy

[warped scroll]

I live in Turkey and your ideas sound very funny to me

[versed rain]

Are u turkish?

[warped scroll]

Nope

[manic juniper]

Because North Korea kept the same economy and freedom of speech (aka none at all)

[versed rain]

So u dont know anything about nationalism of turkey.

[feral river]

don't you think that's you guys think US are allies but US is actually using you guys to project their own power to maintain their global order ?

[warped scroll]

Okay 🤣

[shy summit]

Check out this vid boys https://youtu.be/CFQE47430vo?si=JOmvnUPkPb9Q20vD

[versed rain]

We think completely this.

[feral river]

already checked out the full video on aljazeera english

[versed rain]

After all, they can use us as allies, but we react when necessary. America doesn't say anything to that either.

[feral river]

he's a genius to answer those question in the stance of PRC

[shy summit]

[versed rain]

You don't see anger against the American people in Turkey, but they are angry with the government.

[manic juniper]

Because Turks aren't Arabs

[shy summit]

Most dipshit americans think turks are arab

Granted most americans can’t point it out on a map

[versed rain]

It's what we're most angry about. Do we have to be Christians to not be Arabs?

[shy summit]

Pretty much according to the racists

[feral river]

you don't see anger against the government in China, but they are angry with the americans

I would say that's absolutely vulnerable against foreign influences

[versed rain]

The Turkish people are already angry so much about these Islamist terror incidents. They dont act like Middle easterners.

[shy summit]

Thats cause you guys lock people up on the basis of national protection if you criticize the gov.

[versed rain]

yeah

[shy summit]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

[feral river]

lock people up on basis of national protection, woah

woah woah woah

[shy summit]

There are still people who get locked up for mentioning this

[versed rain]

We can be pro-europea, pro-america but we dont act like this every time.

Turkey dont want to act under rules of USA

But it doesnt mean turkey dont like USA.

[feral river]

I just think sometimes I appreciate our situation like this because some westerners really got paranoid about it

[versed rain]

We dont like government.

[feral river]

that was amazing if they hate us to do such thing like that

that's insane if your enemy don't even hate you but we hate them so that was a good signal that we may surpass them faster

[shy summit]

He can’t even acknowledge it

[feral river]

im sorry but your colourful revolution against Chinese state, is not gonna work

[shy summit]

The nationalistic pride is insane

[feral river]

is NOT gonna work lmao

[versed rain]

who are u talking about?

[manic juniper]

Hate for what

[shy summit]

He thinks china can take on everyone in the world combined basically

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[shy summit]

Its honestly quite entertaining

[manic juniper]

He can be happy to believe it

[versed rain]

naber hi

[feral river]

we can see about that

[blazing solstice]

hii what are yall arguing about

[versed rain]

thank u guys for all. I'm going out. See u

[feral river]

sometimes I don't even say our policy's doing good or we have some nationalistic emotion

[shy summit]

Later bruh

[feral river]

but bro that's important I just realized

so damn important

[thorny steeple]

Thanks i am great. You

[shy summit]

So Trump fucked up so bad the military denounced his actions.

Thats pretty insane to take such an L as to incur the political wrath of a non-partisan millitary

[feral river]

yeah pretty later

imagine what's the 2016 of China and what's the 2024 of China

im sure we will see about that

[shy summit]

Ok hun

Lemme know when your country sorts out its child abuse

[feral river]

lemme know when you get off of those false accusations and talk something not so stupid and real

also provide some evidence please

[shy summit]

He can’t even interact with it!

[feral river]

You can't even say something without this shit

[warped scroll]

Every country has similar problems

[feral river]

dude I think you are not a kid or something I don't really need to say that much

but it's a little bit stupid conversation we got

I will just give it back

[shy summit]

China has decreased protections for child labor. Huge problem over there

[manic juniper]

Not every country kills millions of newborn females

[warped scroll]

Why?

[feral river]

try to solve it by you

[manic juniper]

?

[fathom fjord]

a reasonable question

[shy summit]

https://2017-2021.state.gov/chinas-disregard-for-human-rights/

[manic juniper]

Why they don't kill newborn females? Lol

[versed rain]

There is a lot of reaction to the events in Turkey. Recently, it was on the agenda everywhere because only 1 security guard harassed a girl, and the security guard was sent to prison on the same day.

[warped scroll]

You dont know, do you?

[feral river]

did I really need to list 1000 stupid thing that US did ?

[manic juniper]

No, your question just didn't make sense

[shy summit]

I don’t claim the US to be problem free

You seem to have a fight for every objective observation I make

[versed rain]

this was a tragedy in arabian peninsula at around 700's

[feral river]

no dude I just feel woah wtf wtf wtf

[warped scroll]

What did I ask?

[feral river]

you are refreshing my recognized level of stupidity

[manic juniper]

Arabs often tell me that Islam was good because it stopped that 🤔

[feral river]

dude that's insane please talk more

what the heck incredible

[versed rain]

Prophed muhammad cursed it.

[manic juniper]

You asked why killing newborn females is bad, does it really need an explanation?

[feral river]

would you mind to see what you have said ?

don't you will laugh out ?

[warped scroll]

I asked why the reason tehy killed them Never mind you couldnt even understand what I asked

[warped scroll]

Cursed what?

[versed rain]

killing newborn females.

[feral river]

anyways I just learned something really cool from you @shy summit

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/witchcraft-hunchback-of-notre-dame-frollo-animated-gif-19403567

[versed rain]

It's outdated

[feral river]

preserving the nationalistic sense against enemies is god damn so important

thank you to teaching me this

[shy summit]

So is truth however

[versed rain]

this is on my tv. Whats happening at Israel?

[feral river]

if you trying to provide truth, you can directly provide evidence

[shy summit]

I can’t understand that language

[feral river]

if you wanna let me judge your evidence from US government

[shy summit]

Is it Hebrew?

[versed rain]

turkish.

[manic juniper]

It's good if you want to distract the common people from real problems

[fathom fjord]

yes, the question “why” is so complicated, only a very strange person wouldnt understand what you meant…wild

[shy summit]

Ah

[versed rain]

Israeli police arrests israeli protesters.

[feral river]

like US government said China something terrible woah

let's give it back I just found something interesting

[shy summit]

They might be protesting the attacks in Gaza?

Or the president maybe?

[versed rain]

There may be turmoil in the country.

[feral river]

http://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/zgyw/202203/t20220302_10647120.htm

[versed rain]

maybe idk

[feral river]

The American Genocide of the Indians—Historical Facts and Real Evidence

@shy summit do you like it ? it's from your favorite Chinese government

don't be silly about this if you want a text war with me

[versed rain]

DMAX guys are my best choice

[shy summit]

So far its accurate as far as naitives go, though it uses the wrong term

We don’t call them indians

[feral river]

oh natives go crap

[versed rain]

American Jewellery loan is the best.

[feral river]

go to where ?

pacifics ?

[shy summit]

We use the term Native Americans

Or natives

[feral river]

or some tiny island used for nuke test

[warped scroll]

Not cursed Prohibited

[feral river]

oh crap that's american territory

[versed rain]

same

[feral river]

you can use your territory to conduct nuclear test don't you ?

that's not for kill people, those people are political prisoners

[shy summit]

Yeah its terrible, and we teach how terrible it is to our children and so forth

[warped scroll]

Not same

[versed rain]

every country has

[versed rain]

i dont care

[feral river]

oh cool, then how about coup, destrucion, war, guns other stuff ?

that you guys doing it all the time

[shy summit]

See I agree with you, America has problems and has done terrible things.

[feral river]

Yes I see then let's talk about China since you agreed this point

[warped scroll]

[feral river]

first, where's your evidence of child abuse

[shy summit]

Thats the difference between us is I can say that and not fear retaliation from my government.

[versed rain]

are u trolling?

[shy summit]

🙂

[feral river]

if you wanna say a western human right problem in Xinjiang I agree but where's the evidence of child abuse ?

i never heard about it

[warped scroll]

Not as much as you are

[versed rain]

@shy summit
warn this boy, he just add reactions to my messages just laughing.

and he accepts trolling

[warped scroll]

Boy? How old r u

[versed rain]

Do I have to make it clear?

[warped scroll]

No bc it's obvious

[feral river]

that's from the google even google quit Chinese market @shy summit

where's your evidence of child abuse then ?

by government ?

[shy summit]

Here are some facts about child labor in China:

Prevalence
In 2010, around 7.74% of children between the ages of 10 and 15 worked, with an average of 6.75 hours per day. This means they spent 6.42 hours less on studying each day than other children.

Location
Children from rural areas are more likely to work, and children from households with more adults are less likely to work.

School
Around 90% of child laborers are still in school, combining work with their education. However, child labor is associated with higher school dropout rates.

Reasons
Some reasons for child labor include inflation, the global demand for cheap goods, and the need for farm laborers. Children are inexpensive to employ, and some are kidnapped and forced to work in factories or the sex trade.

Laws
Chinese law prohibits anyone under 16 from working, and those who employ children are breaking the law. The government has also signed international treaties against child labor, and some say that the trend is decreasing due to legislation that favors strict policies to protect children.

Harvest
In the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region and Gansu province, children are sometimes mobilized through schools to work during the autumn harvest, beginning as early as the third grade. They are often paid little, if anything, after deductions for meals, transportation, and school payments.

[manic juniper]

I think Nale isn't talking about laws, but the enforcement of said laws

[feral river]

2010 ?

can you find something in 2020-2024

[manic juniper]

It's a bit like slavery being outlawed in ancient Persia but it wasn't enforced at all and people kept slaves all the times and extensively

[versed rain]

And add the torture of East Turkestan.

[feral river]

about child abuse

2010 was such a chaos of years we don't have strong regulations by law, no cameras, even no great firewalls

that's completely another world between today's China

or I just help you to find some cases ? @shy summit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abuse_in_China

try

[manic juniper]

Then idk what she's referring to

[feral river]

sigh

idk why someone finding a war with me

im the supreme leader and the paramount leader of forces of 652 empire

[warped scroll]

Bc you talk too much dude 😆

[feral river]

im the ministry of war

[warped scroll]

wtf?!

[feral river]

you better go fight with my hr or foreigh affairs something why find me ?

im the ministry of war ofc you gonna lose

[warped scroll]

🤣

[feral river]

sometimes I used to chill, to not talk about some stupid stuff like political blames or something

every country have their own problem isn't it ?

[manic juniper]

Antarctica doesn't have internal problems

[feral river]

we all trying to improve it for ourselves and fight for our own power

that's what the law of nature, survival for the fittest

[warped scroll]

Exactly

[feral river]

why try to start a text war based on false accusation even you can hardly find an evidence from a decades ago ?

[manic juniper]

Unless you're an immigrant

[feral river]

we are nice to immigrants actually

not illegal immigrants

[manic juniper]

No I'm saying immigrants aren't improving their home country most of the times

[feral river]

you can see there's someone attempting to get the Chinese citizenship even it's recorded we got 500000 naturalization cases

[feral river]

well, for us, you know it's insanely hard to immigrate to China

you can search about how hard it is

[manic juniper]

For example I'm not helping the Finnish economy as much anymore

Only paying taxes without working there anymore

[feral river]

oh as long as you are finnish and you give money back to your family your country earns foreign exchange money

that's how South Korea get rich so damn fast

[manic juniper]

Yes but it's less than my contribution would be if I worked there

[manic juniper]

They sent immigrants to the West?

[feral river]

they promote people to go outside of their country and work there for earning USD for themselves and the governments

[feral river]

not only the west, they send people to everywhere, anywhere you can earn money

they send soldiers to replace americans in vietnam, in oil price crisis they send people in saudi arabia to build stuff

[manic juniper]

I only know two Korean immigrants that don't live in the West

One is from Russia and the other is half Mexican so not even a real immigrant or anything

[feral river]

even they killed more vietnamese natives than americans

lol idk if it's true but for sure a large amount of korean soldiers go fight in vietnam for america

because at that time one american soldier died would be expensive but a korean soldier is way more cheaper

so they got the deal

they are now part of the fuel of boosting South Korean economy

[manic juniper]

Sweden did this with Finnish people

[feral river]

we are all business guys don't we ?

don't talk about some human bullshit that only shows you are a non-beneficiary with no power

unless you can start a revolution based on this

I see there's a capitalist revolution, a communist revolution even a fascist revolution or anarchist revolution

but I didn't see there's a human bullshit revolution

Revolution is not a dinner party, nor an essay, nor a painting, nor a piece of embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.

— Mao zedong, February 1927

[jagged grotto]

also there's no race called 'american' in my opinion the people that we call americans are all mix of countries like germany,spain,france,uk

[feral river]

well lol you can apply this to every single country on earth

there's no pure race

[jagged grotto]

yea

[shy summit]

Its a melting pot for sure the only ‘American’ people here are the natives

[jagged grotto]

unfortunately the population of native americans is pretty low these days

[shy summit]

Yeah, we can thank early colonials for that one then later on the burgeoning US government

Granted no society on earth is guilt free of attrocity

[prisma cipher]

I don't play Minecraft

[feral river]

you don't need to bro

[shy summit]

Pretty sure he was memeing

[feral river]

rename your nickname is all enough

just for fun dude

[jagged grotto]

why tho is that a good thing i dont really know abt american history

[shy summit]

Granted I’m not sure if EngHub has a dedicated MC server now that I think about it

[shy summit]

No it was a bloodbath, we put bounties on the natives and mutilated their corpses

[feral river]

there's no one wanna create an attrocity for no reason

in your opinion that's an attrocity but in the man who's enacting it, that's their greatest path to ultimate victory

[shy summit]

People will always have an excuse or a justification for such things.

[feral river]

that's why I said it's pure subjective

[feral river]

you do since you call it attrocity

and you won so you can say it

if you are loser you can't say it

what a simple logic

[shy summit]

It was an unnecessary taking of lives that could have been resolved without violence.

[feral river]

there's nothing without violence

live is under violence

you have no violence you shall not survive

that's the world we live in

that's how we evolved to human

[shy summit]

There was no need. People actively chose to do it for no other reason.

[feral river]

I would say you do not advocate to violence, okay and I respect that

but dismantle violence will only make you suffer from the currect situation

[jagged grotto]

After all, violence is what contributes most to the creation of countries

[feral river]

imagine a world without US military presense

that was a paradise for us

[shy summit]

I don’t get this reverence you have for genocide and brutalitarianism. I understand you’re a Realist, but even Realism has its limits

[feral river]

I do not reverence for them but I state the basic logic of all of those.

[shy summit]

You skirt the edge of Holocaust denialism, refuse to admit to some of the worst atrocities in Chinese history or even modern failings of the current political system.

[feral river]

the deterrence, force by guns, drones, missiles, nukes

[feral river]

I would say I can admit it or not, that's my tools not the lock that used for stick me in there

depends what can I got from this

if you give me 100 USD I will deny everything

or walking on the street to do some nazi thing ? idk

no one let me do that

[shy summit]

That’s quite shallow.

[feral river]

idk why you mean by shallow

what's wrong with it

[shy summit]

That your allegiance is to power.

It feels shallow

[feral river]

not so shallow when you project your power by force on other people

[shy summit]

Be it military might or economic capability

[feral river]

not so shallow when you got money let some phd crazyers following around you just for making a cup of tea

[shy summit]

Btw you from Hong Kong region?

Tibet?

Idk if you’ve ever mentioned it before

[feral river]

nope I'm from the mainland China

Shandong province

neither the SARs or Xinjiang Tibet

[shy summit]

Had to google maps that

South of Beijing area?

[feral river]

yeah, I live in the capital city of Shandong province

Jinan city

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinan

[shy summit]

So its like a state

Gotcha

[feral river]

well, kinda different China's unitary state

state is like something federalism

[shy summit]

Right but its the closest analogy we got

[feral river]

yeah not bad lol

[shy summit]

Semiautonomous or is it marked for another reason?

[feral river]

there's no autonomous in provinces even autonomous regions

all power organized by central government

[shy summit]

Then what’s the purpose of distinguished regions?

[feral river]

easy to manage

just for that

[shy summit]

So for local controllers

[feral river]

nope, for party officials

there's no such thing called local controllers

[shy summit]

Like instead of a ceo you got a regional director?

[feral river]

local people's government also part of the central government

[feral river]

you can consider, everywhere's case can be appealed to washington

or washington d.c is the whole country

[steep pendant]

Hello guys i wanted to ask that
in usa teenagers are earning alot through tiktok, youtube by making story videos with ai

But where they are getting money in ? bank account? of their own or their parents

[shy summit]

Sounds difficult to manage with little oversight between local and regional control

[feral river]

our sub-provincial government all following the order and organized by central government

[shy summit]

Feels like a lot of blind spots do you have oversight comittees?

[feral river]

yeah so we got a lot personnals

[steep pendant]

Can i get a reply im really curious

[dreamy venture]

u need search that on ethernet, he is realy good helper

[shy summit]

Teens can work here

[steep pendant]

lemme explain again

[feral river]

nope, only such thing oversight comittees are branch body of CCP or research groups from the universities

but CCP is kinda care with the popularity they do a lot of work for it

even they are dictatorial

[steep pendant]

Teenagers are earning through tiktok and youtube by making story videos (brainrot videos)
and they are earning alot but where they are getting their money in since we have to be 18 to have bank account

[shy summit]

Might be nice to have at least one other party to keep each other in check

[feral river]

we have but they can never came to power lol

[shy summit]

I think they monotize their accounts through tiktok itself

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_People's_Congress

The National People's Congress (NPC) is the highest organ of state power of the People's Republic of China. The NPC is the only branch of government in China, and per the principle of unified power, all state organs from the State Council to the Supreme People's Court (SPC) are subservient to it

[steep pendant]

In usa
we have to be 16 to have our own bank account ?

[shy summit]

Then how the heck do they keep the other in check?

[shy summit]

That’s usually different depending on your state

[steep pendant]

california

[feral river]

why they have to check ? isn't that will waste a lot of money and resources also cause inefficiency ?

[shy summit]

15-16 usually but with a parent co-owning it

[feral river]

CCP perserves to check by themselves and they do a lot of work

CCP has their branch of principles that organize and collect information

to check someone is corrupted or he's not doing a good job

[shy summit]

See to me as a PS major that seems unreliable centralized power can’t self check.

[steep pendant]

I wanna have my own bank account when i will be earning through social medias
cuz tiktok pay 1$ for 1000 views
1 million views - 1000$

easy 15-30k a month

so where will i get my money or those under 18 who are doing the same where are they getting money. i will have to check on internet maybe

[shy summit]

You need multiple actors if you want power capped

[feral river]

why we need to cap the power ?

[shy summit]

You need a minimum amount of money to open an account

[feral river]

what's the reason to do that

[steep pendant]

how much

[shy summit]

To ensure that power does not act against the interest of the nation or the citizens

[shy summit]

Depends on the bank

[feral river]

why we need to ensure by this ?

[steep pendant]

Lol if im earning 15-25k dollars a month
i dont have to worry about money
i wanna open my own bank account at 16. im from usa

[feral river]

if they does act against interest of nation and the citizens they will be overthrow by a revolution

[shy summit]

Men aren’t angels, we’re naturally self centered beings even if we have a tendency towards reciprocity

[feral river]

that's like the old times of China dynasties

[feral river]

well, you know what, China's a 5000 years history of civilization

[shy summit]

If men were angels we wouldn’t need governments or checks and balances

[steep pendant]

Need reply

[feral river]

we do a lot lot lot lot lot revolutions against the imperial power

because they are not doing good

and CCP is so damn care about this

[feral river]

they are self-centered since they have power to do anything

[shy summit]

Sadly I don’t think revolutions will be so effective in the future. Modern technology makes it next to impossible for the common man to stage a revolt if a state has enough weaponry and manpower at its disposal

[feral river]

that's why they can focus on develop the nation

[feral river]

well we are not going to have a revolution by minorities

[manic juniper]

The Constitution protects the government itself as well, because some actions against the government and the territorial integrity are unconstitutional

[feral river]

you can see there's a lot of leader's name in our consitution like Xi jinping thought, Mao zedong thought, Deng Xiaoping etc.

[shy summit]

Dissent with the government never can get any traction if you lock up anyone who has differing opinions.

[feral river]

we do change our consitution oftenly

[manic juniper]

If too many people revolt and don't work there isn't much they can do, they did this in Ukraine 10 years ago and the president was voted out

[feral river]

once you got those people have differing opinions you got less efficiency because they will say something stupid shit

our way to solving this is you can freely purpose what you wanted

[manic juniper]

It's a weak Constitution then

[feral river]

but you have no power to choose what you wanted

[shy summit]

And now they’re fending off the third best army in Russia

[feral river]

you can suggest, what government should do

but you can't hold power against the leader and the state

we are a unitary state under authoritarian rule and it's sucessful

you can see what's the China in 60s, 70s, 80s, and now

it's changing dramatically

[manic juniper]

Would you have liked post-WW2 Finland? It was an autarchy

Imagine a Nordic autarchy with authoritarian social democracy and Nordic welfare

[feral river]

also we have a consultation services to government matters

ofc subordinate of CCP.

[manic juniper]

You were suppressed if you were a vocal communist or a monarchist

[feral river]

lmao idk that much what's going on

[feral river]

McCarthyism ?

[manic juniper]

The lore of other Nordic countries vs Finland is like My Little Pony vs Dark Souls

[manic juniper]

It was called Finlandization, it used to be a popular term for radical neutral countries

But yes there was a good deal of McCarthyism

[feral river]

cool, see you tomorrow then im gonna sleep

now here's damn late, have fun

[manic juniper]

Goodnight

[feral river]

gonna search something why westerners obsessed with division of power

but tomorrow

good night/day you too

[manic juniper]

https://kansallisbiografia.fi/english/person/632
He had five terms

[raven forge]

Tell me which one is better?? Zombie farm or piglin farm???

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-15663922538147050998

[shy summit]

Look up the Magna Carta

[versed rain]

@dapper laurel he is Istanbul Mayor.

[jagged grotto]

oh If it's not a problem for you, can you tell me how you did it from here or dm?

[steep pendant]

Actually i was telling how to earn that much and if im earning how can i open bank account

i've got my answer about the thing i was asking btw

dm me i will explain you how can you earn

[jagged grotto]

ok but is there any age limit?

im under 18

btw I sent a friend request

[versed rain]

how do u make it?

[steep pendant]

send me message
its lengthy i would like to explain in dm

[thorny steeple]

What's this channel for?

[versed rain]

politics, religional discuss, what's happening in the world, etc

[magic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-gif-24956654

[minor robin]

: D

[shy summit]

Well yeah, that’s probably an inevitability of our species that we reach a near genetic equilibrium, though we’d probably be extinct before reaching that point

[turbid harbor]

yall can benefit a lot from reading stuart hall to have a better conception of race as a myth

[shy summit]

Race in of itself is a social construct

We arbitrarily associate certain characteristics with categories we call races

[turbid harbor]

true, but that's a prerequisite knowledge not necessarily to boast about knowing. im just particularly interested in learning about the concept of race as it existed before capital's domination. so in a limited sense it is transhistorical, but it also takes on a peculiar form under the logic of capital.

race and class are co-constitutive, race is a social relation which is imbued in class dynamics and vice versa. i think theres a coherent argument that the concept of race did not exist before class society, though there's also certainly an argument that it did. it's a semantic thing, basically, like for certain definitions of "race", it's a distinctly european phenomenon that didnt give rise at all until the 17th century, and didnt take on anything resembling its current form until the late 18th, even if many of its elements had already existed for centuries or sometimes millennia and could be found all over the place.

oh that's true and while it was largely fueled by gut vitriol, im glad ive made my adversarial stance towards any studious talks about haplogroup sciences or hereditary dna grouping

[turbid harbor]

anyways in any case any concept of race as the majority understand it is an extremely recent development that arose out of particular pressures at particular historical corners in particular conditions. its hard to directly answer the question whether it was conceived before or after class society because racialization occurred in response to somewhat different circumstances (and therefore took a different form) everywhere it arose. traces of history by patrick wolfe is a good book on this imo, in which he paves a pretty compelling argument about the construction of race that is structured around a series of histories where a particular type of racialization occurring would be awfully convenient for the maintenance (or initial formation) of the class structure of some society, and then that racialization occurs.

if anyone wants to read it, as im also still reading but havent finished, hes primarily a theorist of settler-colonialism, but i think the historical threads he pulls out are very adjustable into more strictly historical materialist frameworks. very much worth a read imho

good for you!

look take it to your grave all you want but im way over it man 😭 dont let it live rent free

[thorny steeple]

Never rent free

[turbid harbor]

ikr

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

Well that's genetics

This is ?def eugenics

?def eugenics

[cursive bobcat]

Word: eugenics

Definition (noun): the study of methods of improving genetic qualities by selective breeding (especially as applied to human mating)

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[thorny steeple]

In which sense?

[turbid harbor]

days go by and i wish i could have that asphyxia user to keep me company in this cacophony of a discussion board

[thorny steeple]

Well damn

Seems like a red flag

That's seems troubled

[turbid harbor]

to you, ive seen the arguments you had with her and her stalwartness made me inclined to take her side sorry. helps to have someone with keener interest towards studying things to determine its grounds for abolition in a bettered material society than getting scholarly about its abstracts like it's an indispensable element in society

wonder where she went though, she was last online almost a week ago

[thorny steeple]

She's gone like smoke

[shy summit]

And why would that be?

[turbid harbor]

maybe, maybe not

[turbid harbor]

😭 im going to patiently wait

[thorny steeple]

Just wait by talking here

[turbid harbor]

no cant do, got thesis to do and shows to watch and books to finish

[thorny steeple]

Do it then

Stop waiting your time here

Time is precious

And what genres!

[shy summit]

Mistborn

[turbid harbor]

not much! my attention span is bricked and as plentiful as it may seem, i read on a very sporadic basis. ive mostly been studying articles and journals to supplement my thesis with, so ive been pending things i had only rarelt visited to begin with like Jairus Banaji's Theory of History and Anievas and Nisancioglu's How The West Came to Rule

[thorny steeple]

Start reading harder

[turbid harbor]

if you want a number though, i'm currentlly reading three books. If We Burn by Vincent Bevins, a critique on Herbert Marcuse by Alasdair Macintyre and Baudrillard

in the shadow of silent majorities

though this one's more of a quick skim than an actual reading because baudrillard is a cumbersome author and you have to be in a certain mood and frequency of cynicism to properly digest his works

good going buddy

going to take those numbers at face value, still

[turbid harbor]

i'll take this sardony as helpful advice

[thorny steeple]

I'm here to help, you Hanarus

[turbid harbor]

huh 😭

okay then

[thorny steeple]

Tell me and my advice always helps people

[desert nebula]

When you finish it tell us your opinion about him

[thorny steeple]

Indeed a thorough one

[ashen mortar]

serious chat is always boring chat

filled with boring people

[desert nebula]

Yes I'm curious to see what idea he'll have on him ... especially that's he's not biased to know why Atatürk is loved excessively by Turks

[turbid harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-feel-that-thats-true-true-fern-gif-10543476171987272401

[thorny steeple]

I really do want to know too

[desert nebula]

Yeah he's criticized a lot. Sometimes I read positive articles about him and sometimes negative

[thorny steeple]

Well it's turkey hella ton of. Genocides there back in the past

[desert nebula]

[thorny steeple]

True

He's like George Washington of America

But genocidal

[ashen mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-lazy-so-done-gif-10947994489983288539

[gaunt bronze]

Both

[bleak wharf]

Which one sounds more like presenting an available option?

Which one would sound more like presenting an available option that the person has the freedom to choose to do if put in blank the following sentence and why?

A: What are you going to do after the meeting tomorrow night?

B: Well, if it stops raining, I__play basketball in my yard.

I. will be able to
can

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-gif-3392619820262658250

[feral river]

That’s a real thing you can literally differentiate people by race

That’s why some people are used to get along with together and some not

I’m not a racist, but I just more likely to hang on with the people like me, it’s natural

It’s so damn hard to justify the one have more differences to you is not your enemy

Only modern world today we have different people from different places together and they may have a talk

https://youtube.com/shorts/1vjryz-1q1A?si=7-MP517rfBaTsXk0

This is insane 💀💀💀

[dapper laurel]

Could he also become the next president of Türkiye?

[versed rain]

Probably

[thorny steeple]

Or maybe not who knows

Imagine erdogan becomes king

[dapper laurel]

Does he have good ties with the current president?

[dapper laurel]

The Next Ottoman Emperor

[versed rain]

there is 2 probable candidate of Erdogan's Party. Former head of intelligence Hakan fidan. Or Selcuk Bayraktar, who produces the Turkish armed unmanned aerial vehicle. But Selcuk bayraktar doesnt want to be a candidate. If there is a different candidate from Erdogan's party. It probably will not be changed.

[thorny steeple]

No more like the sublime state of turkey

[versed rain]

CHP's Istanbul Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu won the municipal elections in Istanbul with 1 million vote margin

[thorny steeple]

The Neo ottoman empire

[versed rain]

And Ankara's Mayor Mansur Yavas around 600k too

[versed rain]

wth

[thorny steeple]

Any descendant by Ataturk?

[versed rain]

No, he is in opposition Party

[versed rain]

Just one girl

[thorny steeple]

There has to be fringe parties that want the ottoman empire back

[versed rain]

There are national parties.

Like MHP (National Act Party

[versed rain]

There are 150 party in turkey

[thorny steeple]

Which is your party?

[versed rain]

I support opposition CHP party.

[dapper laurel]

Albanian girl

[versed rain]

What's the relevance?

[thorny steeple]

What's the CHP? Main agenda

[thorny steeple]

Can she rule turkey?

[dapper laurel]

Many support that Atatürk had Albanian origins, I don't know if she is entirely Albanian, but it is likely that she is partly Albanian.

[versed rain]

CHP (Republic People Party
Ataturk's party and main opposition party. This CHP party passed out erdogan's AK party in municipal elections

[versed rain]

Ataturk's family was living in anatolia before. They were emigrated for assimilation.

[thorny steeple]

Is that Ataturk's original party, or has it disintegrated?

[versed rain]

Original

[thorny steeple]

Have any large parties ever disintegrate?

[dapper laurel]

I searched on the internet and it says that there is no real biological descendant of Atatürk, everyone had adopted children in his family

[thorny steeple]

Crazy no bloodline

[versed rain]

No

[dapper laurel]

The ancestors of his father and mother came from Macedonia and northern Greece

[thorny steeple]

How's the communist Party 🎉

[versed rain]

Top one is 2019 municipal elections. Bottom one is 2024 municipal elections. Orange is AK (erdogan's party) Red is CHP(opposition)

[versed rain]

It doesn't have a lot of members.

[thorny steeple]

Imagine him being related to Alexander the great, did Alexander the great had any children

[thorny steeple]

After 1991

[dapper laurel]

This would be crazy lol

[thorny steeple]

Crazy how the CHP has gained ground

[dapper laurel]

Alexander the Great was blond, so was Atatürk

🤔🤔

[versed rain]

Communists and Liberals were at loggerheads in Turkey in the 1980s. For this, a military coup was carried out, and the vandals were punished.

[thorny steeple]

Well were you there?

[versed rain]

Economic, justice, education, prosperity problems etc.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[versed rain]

no

[thorny steeple]

Any ottoman era parties?

[dapper laurel]

They must be related!!!!

[thorny steeple]

Via Macedonian decendecy

[versed rain]

The military coup was at 1986 and they a few years later, they resigned

[thorny steeple]

How many times did it happen since 1919

[versed rain]

No, just republic. There was no party during ottoman era

[thorny steeple]

Institutions?

[versed rain]

2

[dapper laurel]

Macedonia is the greatest country in the world, they literally gave national heroes to every country, they gave Alexander the Great to Greece and Atatürk to Turkey, this is crazy

🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰

[thorny steeple]

Hell that's impressive record

[versed rain]

They are museum. Not working.

[versed rain]

Is it a little?

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

It's crazy how stable turkey is,

Since it would had have more than 2

[versed rain]

Military coups were not carried out by enemies, my friend.

[thorny steeple]

And that left the Greeks weakend

[versed rain]

just 2

[versed rain]

The military coup in Turkey was carried out to restore order. Not by external forces.

[thorny steeple]

Has turkey ever fallen to civil war?

[versed rain]

no

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel make Macedonia great again

[versed rain]

Macedonia is as small as Turkey's smallest city.

[thorny steeple]

True the region is divided

[dapper laurel]

They also gave a piece of land to Greece, they deserve to be the best

[thorny steeple]

United again it shall be great again

[thorny steeple]

They should have joined Greece after Yugoslavia fall

[versed rain]

For example, in a situation, if Turkey fights with the Balkans, I don't think they can win. They shouldn't have been so divided.

[dapper laurel]

Europe should be united under the rule of Skopje

[versed rain]

It should be with Turkey too

[dapper laurel]

No, Greece had to join them 😂

[thorny steeple]

Well then a new country

Republic of Thessaloniki

[versed rain]

At the very least, the Balkans need to be united.

It is very prone to dangers.

[thorny steeple]

The powder keg

United Balkan union

UBU

[versed rain]

United states of Balkan

[manic juniper]

Not again

[thorny steeple]

United States of balkania

USBA

[dapper laurel]

Flag of the Japanese Empire on the left, Macedonian flag on the right. This means that Macedonia will have an empire

[versed rain]

They are too weak

[versed rain]

subliminal message.

[dapper laurel]

Ofc

[versed rain]

The Ottomans were also born from a principality.

[thorny steeple]

Looking similar in some areas

[thorny steeple]

If they want to leave eu

They need their own eu

[versed rain]

So they are standing thanks to the EU?

[thorny steeple]

That includes post Yugoslavia countries

[manic juniper]

Not that much anymore, at least not Croatia, Bulgaria and Romania

[thorny steeple]

Economically yes, military thanks to NATO

[thorny steeple]

Mega union

[versed rain]

Turkey stands with balkans 🪖

[versed rain]

Croatia and romania maybe but not bulgaria

[dapper laurel]

They essentially survive thanks to the funds that Western countries pay

[thorny steeple]

Just fixed the island territory between Greece

[thorny steeple]

Romania bulgaria union

[versed rain]

wdym?

[manic juniper]

They are in NATO

[dapper laurel]

Greece survived only thanks to us, for example

[versed rain]

I'm not speaking in terms of unity. They are nothing in their own.

[thorny steeple]

Greek culture survive before the US was thing

Well in language sense

[dapper laurel]

They suck in economic sense

[thorny steeple]

Greek culture pre ottoman was based on Rome

And still is

[thorny steeple]

Weakend economically

[dapper laurel]

We had to put them on eBay, we would have gained more from it

[versed rain]

I think turkey should have good relations with everyone like italy

[thorny steeple]

And reformed the Roman empire

[dapper laurel]

🇮🇹🫱🏻‍🫲🏼🇹🇷

[thorny steeple]

Just dismantle the current government add a new one

[dapper laurel]

The roman empire heirs

[versed rain]

Everyone makes it. Even europeans fight with each other.

[thorny steeple]

Not a large scale war between has happened since ww2

[versed rain]

Sectarian wars.

[dapper laurel]

FEDERALIZE THE EUROPEAN UNION

[thorny steeple]

What's that?

[versed rain]

Or etc. Already turkey didnt fight with anyone after ww1

[thorny steeple]

?def sectarianism

[cursive bobcat]

Word: sectarianism

Definition (noun): a narrow-minded adherence to a particular sect or party or denomination

Definition requested by receivedtacticalgaming

[thorny steeple]

And become the new United States of Europe

[manic juniper]

Ukraine and Russia

[dapper laurel]

A dream 🥲

[thorny steeple]

Ah yes that

[thorny steeple]

The sudan civil war

[versed rain]

turkish people are neutral about it because we are really good wirh ukrainians and we sometimes can get deals with russia too

[dapper laurel]

The Yugoslav secession wars

[thorny steeple]

The negotiator

[versed rain]

But Turkey has always been pro-Ukraine after the S400s.

[thorny steeple]

The great wars of Africa

1/2 Congo war

[dapper laurel]

https://youtu.be/fYcMnsk2y50?si=o2uxQjc9ZmlpkItS free kosova 🇦🇱🇽🇰

[manic juniper]

Was it moved to Europe

[thorny steeple]

No yet

[versed rain]

literally because turkey doesnt have necessity for hold a team too much but we support ukraine more and more than russia

[magic olive]

Do you guys believe dinosaurs are made up

[manic juniper]

No, birds exist

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/75P0QGi3RO0?si=6F727Y7rf6OYh2A0 @dapper laurel

[versed rain]

The only reason why Turkey has normal relations with Russia is economic interests.

[magic olive]

So if dinosaurs went extinct how they related with birds then

[thorny steeple]

Or wanting the ottoman treatment

[manic juniper]

Dinosaurs aren't extinct, birds still exist

Plus birds existed alongside the other dinosaurs that didn't survive

[magic olive]

With that amount of time do you think those birds shouldn’t have evolved?

[versed rain]

i dont think

[manic juniper]

What do you mean, modern birds existed 6 million years before the mass extinction, and the first birds are even older

There are a lot of fossils of birds from 66 million years ago to now

[magic olive]

What are these birds
Pigeons?
Ostrich?
Emu?

[manic juniper]

Modern birds are all of the birds that exist today and their ancestors, they are grouped in a clade named "Aves"

The extinct bird groups are many, the two most numerous were the Enantiornithes and the Hesperornithes

[versed rain]

the bro is really frightening. https://youtu.be/uQh6J6fImOg?feature=shared
just a normal thing. Turks doesn make it for nationalism or racism

[manic juniper]

Enantiornithes used to fill niches and roles that the birds of today fulfill, our birds kind of filled those gaps once the others disappeared

[manic juniper]

Least nationalistic Turk vs most nationalistic Swede

[thorny steeple]

24/7

Nationalism go Vroom Vroom

[dapper laurel]

CEDDIN DEDEN

The Swedes were clearly scared

[thorny steeple]

They are

[versed rain]

They don't really do it in a bad way. For them, it is a sign of happiness.

[thorny steeple]

Long live Turkey 🦃

[thorny steeple]

Great Northern war

[versed rain]

There is no need for Swedes to be nationalists. They are calm people.

But that's how the Turks find it to enjoy the moment.

[manic juniper]

They are calm until you say that Sweden isn't the best country in the world

[versed rain]

haha

[dapper laurel]

For me it is

[thorny steeple]

Imagine Sweden collapsing

[dapper laurel]

If it weren't for all those immigrants it would be even better

[manic juniper]

Most Nordic countries, especially Norway, there is at least some deal of chauvinism

[versed rain]

hpw they can be rich as much as today just with fishes?

[manic juniper]

It's very common to find Danish and Norwegian flags hanging around their countries, it isn't very common everywhere else

[thorny steeple]

Socialism in Scandinavia when?

[manic juniper]

Oil, high quality and precision technology, services

[magic olive]

I still don’t get it but
Thanks for your time

[dapper laurel]

When I was in Denmark, in the outskirts of Copenhagen there were flags everywhere, many houses had them

[thorny steeple]

Like Netherlands litho manchines

[manic juniper]

You can read about these
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithothoraces
Basically there were already dinosaurs that evolved into birds (just like some mammals evolved into bats)
Those existed alongside other dinosaurs 136 million years ago already. While most of those birds died, some survived and diversified into our times

[versed rain]

but i see their roads as just a direction? I didn't see much of them. I didn't see many factories either. Very strange.

[magic olive]

Okay 👌

[dapper laurel]

They have an economic system mainly based on the tertiary sector, but it also depends on which area you visited

[manic juniper]

We have factories, we just don't produce a whole lot of that machinery because the demand is low (but very profitable). Only other rich countries buy them, Turkey has them too but in even lower numbers

I think USA and Germany are the largest customers even outdemanding China

[versed rain]

So they don't need to?

[manic juniper]

It's mostly that all those profits are extremely high already because this machinery is pricey, and the demand is only going to increase over time as more countries develop so there isn't a sudden demand or competition

[versed rain]

i cannot understand this

[manic juniper]

It's a bit like selling luxury goods, another thing that European countries are known for btw. The demand is low, but it will always exist and it will always be profitable

[versed rain]

So it's scarce, but it's expensive.

[manic juniper]

The largest continental exports of Europe are luxury goods I think

[manic juniper]

Yes

[versed rain]

But I mean, I don't know. Who buys these expensive things, or why don't other countries use such methods?

[manic juniper]

Mostly because in order to produce such goods your country needs to have many educated people, a specialised industry, and the customers are other developed countries.

The first part is also why countries like China or USA don't suddenly start making their own semiconductors like Taiwan does, that's because it takes investments, research and time

[versed rain]

For you, this is a beautiful thing. In a country of 85 million people, there are not so many qualified people.

Turkey(85 million)

[prisma cipher]

This is a comedy performance about how people on the street are taken to war in Ukraine

[versed rain]

In fact, I think that since the Swedes are calm people, they can pay more attention to this type of technology. But imagine a country that is constantly at war. For this, it will make mass production.

[thorny steeple]

True hella lot of demand

[manic juniper]

It you want to have an idea of the kind of stuff we export besides some raw materials like timber, refined oil and paper, it's the high precision machinery you find in hospitals and computers, our largest customers are USA, Germany, Sweden, Netherlands and China (yes, after Netherlands). So if Turkey is amongst them their contributions are very low

[versed rain]

i got.

[manic juniper]

A country that is at war, but rich, would have an even higher demand for computers

[thorny steeple]

Isfrun the Economist

[versed rain]

Turkey had a lot of ignorant issues to deal with before technology.

[dapper laurel]

Anyway, In Italy this appeared, it says "Russia is NOT my enemy"

🤝🏻

[manic juniper]

There are many countries that export raw oil but most of them can't refine it themselves, so they have to buy refined oil from the countries where they send raw oil

[manic juniper]

They created a deformed version of Czechia's flag

[versed rain]

but this is bad? U take expensive products.

[dapper laurel]

Now that you point it out, the poster become unwatchable

[manic juniper]

We are those that refine the raw oil, so we make them pay higher prices in return. It's a shitty thing to do but many countries do this

All Nordic countries either have oil, refine it, or both like Norway

[prisma cipher]

the better the situation is for Russia, the more friends we will have@dapper laurel

[dapper laurel]

Well, that one appeared at the beginning of the war

[manic juniper]

Was it from Lega?

[versed rain]

In the first photo, It is written as that there are many hopes behind despair, and there are many days behind darkness. And from Turkey to the people of Ukraine with love

And second one is written as humanitarian aid from the Turkish people to the Ukrainian people.

[dapper laurel]

I think it's independent, the Lega party is nothing now

[prisma cipher]

Good

[dapper laurel]

But W FI

[prisma cipher]

Doesn't mean anything tho

[dapper laurel]

They say it also appeared in Russia

[dapper laurel]

The League was born as a Padanian independence party and now they become pro-government 😂🫵🏻

There was also a Padanian football team

[manic juniper]

🤬🤬 Aiutateli a casa loro! 🤬🤬

[manic juniper]

Lega will become more globalist over time, they will eventually support an intergalactic confederation

[dapper laurel]

Padanian football team

[dapper laurel]

My mother was so angry about this motto

Luckily they never managed to separate

[manic juniper]

I don't get where Lega still get its funds from, didn't it fail completely in the last few elections? Yet their mouthpieces are extremely loud

[dapper laurel]

One day, when the aliens come here, the Lega will say "Humans first 😡"

[prisma cipher]

Maybe

[dapper laurel]

In fact, that party will survive for a short time, in the next few years it will be dismantled, in the European elections they collapsed completely

[versed rain]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-Ae_S5ikXF/
Why is he singing Turkish song 😄 :DD

[shy summit]

Yeah this is just diet racism. Not sure how to explain this to you bud

[shy summit]

Anyways lgbt advocacy is doing great this year it always does when we’re near a voting cycle so that’s wonderful

[versed rain]

@manic juniper do u think that Turkey will be join the EU until we die?

[manic juniper]

It's basically a dictatorship right now, sometimes a dictatorship gets replaced by another, it's impossible to predict

I can see Albania, Montenegro and North Macedonia joining before I turn 40

[versed rain]

I dont want to die before join the EU

Erdogan absolutely will not be a president at 2028

?def dictatorship

[cursive bobcat]

Word: dictatorship

Definition (noun): a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.)

Definition requested by yusuftahaofficial

[versed rain]

Maybe erdogan is a dictator for sometimes. There is generally no justice. But he became to a president with votes

[viscid ferry]

Never tolerate disrespect not even from yourself

[manic juniper]

Because they often boast about it, I don't know why is that

Compared to us it's lower but we are also quite chauvinistic and only consider other Nordics as equals

Serbia could count as one, the only true dictatorship is Belarus (heck Lukashenka admitted it), the others like Serbia, Hungary and Turkey are more like hybrid regimes

Hungary is the least violent one, Turkey is the most oppressive

[versed rain]

if CHP become to power everything will change.

In their first week in power, they promised visa liberalization.

[manic juniper]

I don't know enough about the rest of the West Balkans, to my knowledge they're just kleptocracies but some EU countries are as well

[versed rain]

I have not seen the CHP think differently from European diplomacy.

And probably CHP party will win the next presidental election

[manic juniper]

Are Turkish elections democratic and free? Is voting fraud common?

[versed rain]

@manic juniper yes it is free and there is no fraud

[versed rain]

At the ballot boxes, all 7 major parties have delegates and they give the votes together to the necessary institutions and have them counted in front of their eyes.

[dapper laurel]

Italy, basically

[river crypt]

With open hearts and helping hands, Together we can heal the lands. A smile, a gesture, a word of grace, Can light up even the darkest place. Together, we'll make the world a better place

[dapper laurel]

We're a proud dictatorship

You don't know the reforms they are making, like the one of the prime minister rule

[versed rain]

For example, after the election is over, the delegates count and it is written that there are votes that choiced from the ballot boxes, especially in front of the electoral institutions. You can see the votes neighborhood by neighborhood on the website of the Turkish Supreme Election Council.

[manic juniper]

Ukraine was an hybrid regime at least until 2014

Once Ukrainians started to protest they allowed to shoot on them

[dapper laurel]

Also the party in power has more media coverage, they're indoctrinating us, in short

And I hope so, clearly

And I also hope that bicameralism in parliament will be abolished

[manic juniper]

Is the military loyal to Erdogan or Turkey?

[versed rain]

Mostly Turkey

If religious issues are discussed in the military, the commanders get angry and punish.

It is forbidden to grow a beard.

https://youtube.com/shorts/luh6gCJZhQQ?feature=shared
this is turkish navy operation team(SAT)

[dapper laurel]

Is this associated with Islamic extremism?

[manic juniper]

I think it has to do with military discipline and attire, some countries are more restrictive than others

We aren't allowed to have long beards or hair either, but we can have tied hair or short beards

[versed rain]

They think it shouldn't be in the military.

[versed rain]

yes it is about discipline

For example, in compulsory military service, everyone has hours when they shave.

[manic juniper]

Some countries or forces require you to have no hair at all, or extremely short hair, no beard at all, no tattoos

[versed rain]

this is not a necessary in turkish military but there is compulsory military system. If u a soldier in it u have to shave ur beard and hair

This is a soldier's shave.

https://youtube.com/shorts/wlzA0F4EsCI?feature=shared
This is list of turkish military teams

[dapper laurel]

[dapper laurel]

Well, I would like to grow a beard up to twice the size of the palm of my hand

I would like to appear wiser

[versed rain]

if they see u in military they can arrest

if u do it

[celest elk]

Hey whats going on laddys

[magic olive]

Why the sun rises from the east

[thorny steeple]

idk

what are you talking about guys?

Hey

[charred trail]

Hello how are you?

[thorny steeple]

i m ok, what about you ?

[charred trail]

I am fine thanks

@thorny steeple my name is okbi what about you?

[thorny steeple]

oh, it s a beautiful name; I m Ines, from Morocco; what about you?

[charred trail]

Nice name Ines . I am also Arab . Can you guess which country? 🙂

[thorny steeple]

ALGERIA

[charred trail]

No 😅

[thorny steeple]

Palestine

[charred trail]

Also no

I am from Egypt 🥲

@thorny steeple ,Nice to meet you

[thorny steeple]

haha okay, i ve an egyptian friend btw

[thorny steeple]

nice to meet you too

[charred trail]

Yeah I see there are many people from Egypt here on Discord and on this server. I have also friend from Morocco

@thorny steeple Are you from Casablanca?

[thorny steeple]

yeah haha, do you have my location or what hhhhh

[versed rain]

@thorny steeple is killing kaffir innocents halal?

[thorny steeple]

🙂

[charred trail]

Not at all 😂I think it's the only city I know from Morocco 😢

[thorny steeple]

well, you got it right, good job brother

[thorny steeple]

killing is haram

[versed rain]

What do baccarat surat 191-192 mean then?

[charred trail]

You are welcome sis . I live in Giza it's city of pyramids

[thorny steeple]

awwww cool, i never saw pyramids in real life hhh

[versed rain]

?

[thorny steeple]

Dear brother, is there the name sheikh writen in my face ???

[versed rain]

https://quran.com/al-baqarah/191-192
Quran says it is halal.

[thorny steeple]

you shouldn t take a verse out of context brother

[versed rain]

I don't ask the sheikhs if it's halal or not.
The Qur'an is sufficient.

[thorny steeple]

how old are you

[inland hedge]

Bro have you even read 190

ohh quran says kill them!

[versed rain]

yes, i am wanting an answer from her. I dont know really. I am muslim btw

[inland hedge]

Meanwhile 190

Like it's really absurd to read an important book part by part

And thinking you'll have a clear and a healthy perception

[thorny steeple]

i didn t mean it that way, but i m telling you to ask a knowledgable scholar of islam, that spend HIS WHOLE LIFE STUDYING fiqh and quran, but yes if you want tafsir, you can tap on youtoub and search it

[versed rain]

okay, thanks for the answer

[thorny steeple]

indeed

[tight sphinx]

hi

[versed rain]

I don't usually need scholars. Quran and correct hadiths are sufficient.

[thorny steeple]

yes ofc, but i meant if you didn t understand somthing u can search on ytb the tafsir of the verse

[versed rain]

okay

[thorny steeple]

muslims follow Quran and sunnah

[thorny steeple]

btw what s your religion?

[feral river]

Are you ?

I thought you were not

[feral river]

I didn’t see it on the map

[charred trail]

I am 24 years old. What about you?

[thorny steeple]

it s ok, u had to change yout glasses haha

[thorny steeple]

oh, i m 17

[charred trail]

You are still young 🙃

@thorny steeple are you student at high school?

[thorny steeple]

yeah but death arrive in all ages

[manic juniper]

He is

[thorny steeple]

yep,, last year of hight school

[charred trail]

I hope one day you go to Egypt and see pyramids 😊

[charred trail]

I think it's very important year for you because your results in exams will define which factually you will enter

[thorny steeple]

inshaallah, i will

[charred trail]

Inshallah

[thorny steeple]

YEAH most decisive and important year in my life haha

[dapper laurel]

Hi everyone

[charred trail]

Yeah. Which factually you hope to enter?

[charred trail]

Hello how are you?

[thorny steeple]

medical school inshaallah

[charred trail]

Inshallah

[dapper laurel]

Just woke up

[charred trail]

@thorny steeple You like football or what sport you care ?

[charred trail]

Where are you from? 🤔

[dapper laurel]

🇪🇺

[feral river]

Incredible

Anyway guys I arrived South Korea again

[dapper laurel]

Busan 😏

?

[feral river]

Yeah busan girls

Let’s goooo

[charred trail]

What is this flag ?

[feral river]

United States of Empire of Greater Europe

[dapper laurel]

I hope you do stuff then