🧠｜serious-chat

[prisma cipher]

Ok

[thorn lagoon]

They also have common ancestors with east Asian people

[manic juniper]

It's vague

Generic East Asian could mean anything

[thorn lagoon]

Hmm

[manic juniper]

It's even possible that it's the opposite, that the genes originated in Siberia or even Europe and they moved further East

[thorn lagoon]

The onge/AASI

[manic juniper]

Having genes in common only means that you share the same origin but it's a comparative and relative study

[thorn lagoon]

Out of europe theory?

[prisma cipher]

based on the fact that we have intermediate links between races, you say, that races do not exist well

[lime jolt]

Opinion on my pfp chat

[manic juniper]

Intermediate links between ethnicities

[prisma cipher]

Should I comment it guess no

[thorn lagoon]

The last time I saw these onge and aasi came out from Africa

[vernal ruin]

Reallity could be the same, but understanding is different. It's even difficult to understand the reality itself, tbh. All that creates our perception of reality is different for another person. For me racism is bad, for somebody it's just ok, and so on. Even truly real things could be perceived different: for someone the wether can be hot, for another one is ok. I mean we have so many different concepts that creates this perception.

[manic juniper]

It just shows that the very definition of race is arbitrary and based off the majority rather than scientific taxonomy

[thorn lagoon]

India

[manic juniper]

You can compare this with a study on monitor lizards

[prisma cipher]

I don't want to compare it with anything.

because if I start comparing, it turns out that some species of animals don't even exist

[thorn lagoon]

Because they are winning more Olympic medals

[manic juniper]

Yes, in fact they don't

[thorn lagoon]

I will discuss things related to the topic in hand

[vernal ruin]

Even life is not exists then, it's just atoms 🙂

[prisma cipher]

👍

[manic juniper]

Like cows and bisons could very well be the same species

[thorn lagoon]

It's a whole lot of different groups

[manic juniper]

Brown in USA, Asian in UK

[prisma cipher]

Ask vivek

[thorn lagoon]

Sino-tibetan speaking groups, austro-asiatic groups , indo aryan and drvaidian groups

Indo aryan in the North

Dravidian in the South

Tibeto-burman speaking group in the North East

This is mostly a linguistic division

[prisma cipher]

Is Indian moustache cultural or national thing?

[thorn lagoon]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibeto-Burman_languages

[manic juniper]

Important announcement for Armenians

Yes they do

Quite different

[thorn lagoon]

What?

What type of moustache?

https://tenor.com/view/moocha-mustache-italian-indian-guy-gif-14645368

[thorn lagoon]

This type?

[near rivet]

It's a cultural thing, I suppose

The trend has been followed since the ancient times

Though not everybody has the same style

Men do prefer having moustache and beards

As a symbol of masculinity

[manic juniper]

Russians have more hooded eyes like most other East Slavs, rounder heads around the edges, less elongated vertically (there are exceptions), lighter colour and straighter hair, the eyes are about the same in colour as the Brits, they have smaller noses

Brits have longer faces, slightly more angular but pointier jaw and chin, bigger nose with higher bridge, darker hair, less likely to have tilted eyes

Less with Brits because I haven't seen many irl and they live far from our country

But I've seen many East Slavs in my lifetime, or other Eastern Europeans

[manic juniper]

Finland

[thorn lagoon]

India has many achievements as well ( especially in ancient times) but I will talk about it when they come up.

[manic juniper]

Side by side

I think he has better photos with more hair tho

[thorn lagoon]

One example

[manic juniper]

Not really, we are closer to Baltic people and other Finnic people, a bit to Norse people (Scandinavians and Icelandic)

But we are quite distinct from the rest of Europe in that sense, the closest to us are the Estonians but they mixed a lot more than we did

[thorn lagoon]

And, you will see many physician and scientists appreciating Indian philosophy and spirituality.( one of the main soft power of India)

[thorn lagoon]

Especially the vedanta tradition

[manic juniper]

This is how some of us look like

At least in Europe yes because there was more selective pressures for fairer skin tones, it's also thanks to the people living near the Urals that moved more West and they possessed an even more pale skin tone

[thorn lagoon]

He talks about vedanta here

[manic juniper]

I am happy for her : D our men are quite decent depending on the qualities you're searching for

The girl has dyed hair btw

[manic juniper]

It's very rare to have black hair here
It's already uncommon to have brown hair (one in five people has them)

Most people have blonde hair, usually 4 in 5 people

There are also the Baltic countries, people from there are underrated fr

I believe they look even better but that's a matter of tastes

Not much in big cities and in the South, there are many immigrants. Also roughly 5% of our population has Swedish origins, probably even more but they speak Finnish now. Those people are mixed but they still show different traits from ours

If you go in villages the percentage of foreigners drops to near zero

Yes, France has many foreigners, I think more than us but unsure

[thorn lagoon]

Erwin Schrodinger talking about Brahman

[manic juniper]

Yes most do, some have a very noticeable accent tho... Like me I guess

[thorny steeple]

Hello friends. I'm sorry to interrupt your conversation, I'll just take a tactic. I want to improve my English by reading magazines, but while reading, there are too many words I don't know, and I waste a lot of time. How to improve a language by reading, what are your methods and working system? Can you help me?

[manic juniper]

Heavy R, some K sounds are duplicated, different pronunciation of vowels

[thorn lagoon]

It is a bit wrong to say Parmenedes' monism is older than Advaita vedanta because Advaita ideas are already in the upanishads and those upanishads are older than Parmenedes but he's spot on with the analogy

[thorn lagoon]

Pretentious new age atheist scientist like Richard Dawkins are rejecting metaphysics but here Erwin Schrodinger fully engaging on it

"Reasons for abandoning dualism of thought and existence"
Nothing can be more advaita vedantic than this
Based Erwin Schrodinger

[manic juniper]

I see, over time I got used to most of them except heavy Irish English and Jamaican English

[manic juniper]

Dawkins?

[thorn lagoon]

Yes

My mistake

[manic juniper]

I want to learn Australian English or Scots

[thorny steeple]

I like to watch Australian news channels in order to improve my listening skills

And Irish Catholic radios

[thorn lagoon]

Erwin Schrodinger quoting from the upanishads

[thorny steeple]

Dravidians came from Iran Ig, the origins of Northern Indians are way more complex

[thorn lagoon]

Erwin Schrodinger on vedanta

[thorn lagoon]

Dravidians are a mixture of AASI/Ancient Ancestral South Indian ( Andamanese related people but not the same) and Iranian Neolithic from the zagros mountain

Norther Indians also has these two genetic makeup but they have another one

I.e steppe-aryan/Sinthasta

But, it has been a complicated and there has been lots of inter mixture so "Dravidian" even might have some steppe

[thorn lagoon]

But, in general , this is the case

[thorny steeple]

Gotcha

You're Indian or Nepali?

[thorn lagoon]

Indian

[thorn lagoon]

This happens a lot, people confusing us for nepali

Lol

[thorny steeple]

I'm asking because I saw you here when I was using my older account, and I recall a guy from the Indian subcontinent who looked like you

[thorn lagoon]

Erwin Schrodinger rejecting spinoza's monism in favour of non-dual vedanta

[thorny steeple]

At least he talked a lot about metaphysics and philosophy

[thorn lagoon]

That is probably me

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, that's me

[thorny steeple]

I think I've seen someone call you nepali or smth

So I thougt you were Nepali

[thorn lagoon]

People have called me Chinese here
In other servers, they usually mistake me for a nepali

[thorn lagoon]

I see

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, I do look like a nepali I guess 🤔

[thorny steeple]

Do they specify the region in china?

[thorny steeple]

You really do

I look like an Arab tho

[thorn lagoon]

No, just that I look "Chinese "

[thorn lagoon]

We are similar people.
Nepal have tibetic speaking groups like the gorkha tamangs and thapas.

[thorn lagoon]

Really?
You have some arab ancestry?

https://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/afghanistan-conflict/gurkha-hero-defeats-30-taliban/855742580001

Gurkha are Nepali

https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/gorkha-commando-hacked-isis-terrorists-using-khukri-328794-2016-07-12

[thorny steeple]

I know

[thorny steeple]

No, it's just that mixing does that, I'm as mixed as every Brazilian

[quartz nest]

https://youtu.be/SsIt-5qJDBg?si=lBwk6dpiTtNKpmHA
yeah it was a great one

[thorny steeple]

Brazilians have a little bit of Arab DNA, many of us are of Arab ancestry (Lebanese and Syrian) but because of the Moor invasion in Portugal, everyone has a little bit of it

[thorn lagoon]

Can't understand a bit.
Is he talking about the khukri?

[thorn lagoon]

What's the average genetic composition of Brazil

Probably a lot more diverse

[thorny steeple]

Subsaharan Africans from Angola (came here as slaves), Amerindians (until the 18th century, the Portuguese didn't bring their wives with them, so that they had children with indigenous women), and white Portuguese

[quartz nest]

yep but in Arabic

[thorn lagoon]

The natives are mongoloid?

Are Native Americans "mongoloid"?

[nocturne tiger]

Whats your haplogroup?

[nocturne tiger]

Im from Turkey and have %16 mongoloid. What do you think?

[thorny steeple]

Sure, they descend from Eastern Asians. They probably had lighter skin before crossing the Bering Strait

They haplogroup is represented by the letter Q, which is commonly found in Siberia

[nocturne tiger]

Also Turkmens have Q too. I find that very interesting…

[thorny steeple]

Idk but haplogroups alone don't define much, I'd have to see my autossomal DNA

[nocturne tiger]

Mine’s J2.

[thorny steeple]

Hmm are you Jewish?

[nocturne tiger]

Nah I’m west anatolian Turk

[nocturne tiger]

I was reading an article about haplogroup differences before and after the aryan invasion to india. Do you know anything about it

[vapid hare]

to think the germans invaded india. so sad 😔

[desert nebula]

Did Brazil give them the nationality?

[nocturne tiger]

Germans aren’t aryans.

[vapid hare]

indeed they aren't. the REAL aryans are indonesians 🇮🇩

[feral river]

they are great aryans

[gaunt bronze]

Do ppl even still use the word "aryan" 😭 💀

That's just so weird and has such a...bad connotation

[vapid hare]

I wonder who else used the word aryan

[gaunt bronze]

Idk

But its an example of how language can be twisted and changed

[vapid hare]

symbols can be affected too. the swastika was originally some symbol in indian religions until the not-sees appropriated it for themselves

[gaunt bronze]

Oh yes that too

It’s so horrible what the Nazis did

Even music

But some music like ode to joy stayed still and its unbelievable how much ways that piece has been used

An Ode to Conquering the World to an Ode of Democracy

[vapid hare]

Erika

[gaunt bronze]

Oh gosh

[vapid hare]

all things to be joyous about

[vapid hare]

gosh darnit

[gaunt bronze]

I agree

I guess that’s why!! Ur a genius ugh

[vapid hare]

I really should just be world president smh

I'll solve world hunger in my first 100 days

[gaunt bronze]

Let me be your vice president then!

[vapid hare]

Hell yeah

The vale-governor ticket

[last dome]

personally I think id be a great god of man

[gaunt bronze]

#Vale–Governor

[vapid hare]

Hply shit my teacher is here brb

[gaunt bronze]

Help 💀 HOW

[last dome]

thhe haters were hating

but I threw an irregular shaped ball at them

so they shut up

[vapid hare]

i got my laptop out in class thats how

[last dome]

champion

[gaunt bronze]

r u not allowed?

[vapid hare]

nah we are

[gaunt bronze]

Here so many ppl just watch while the teacher is yapping and they don’t listen

[vapid hare]

youre just not to use them for recreational use while its lesson time

[gaunt bronze]

the Gov is adding a phone ban though 😭

[gaunt bronze]

AHHHH EVERYONE HERE DOES THAT

[vapid hare]

okay guys vale going dark cya 🫡

[feral river]

? is anyone hunger in this world ?

I thought everyone can afford at least like 2 lambo

[broken nest]

Is that you in your pfp?

[gaunt bronze]

Omg nooo it’s queen Elizabeth II!!

[broken nest]

Aint that old woman dead?

[broken nest]

.

[gaunt bronze]

What a rude way to put it 😭

But yes

[broken nest]

She was like 120 years old

She saw both wold wars

[gaunt bronze]

She was 96 and she only saw ww2 I think

[broken nest]

My great grandmother didn't saw them

[broken nest]

Sus number tbh

[gaunt bronze]

LOLL (only if it’s flipped!)

[broken nest]

Sir u will have to change that pfp before someone thinks that its the liberty statue

[gaunt bronze]

Oh it’s mademoiselle 😢, but no one will think that

They look so different

[dapper laurel]

Let's say that there is both truth and false in what he said

[thorn lagoon]

Very nice 👍

[thorn lagoon]

Haplogroup R1a??

[thorn lagoon]

The sinthasta people

[nocturne tiger]

Yeh

[thorn lagoon]

Arent the turks originally east Asian people?

[nocturne tiger]

I’m sorry but i call them aryans. Very SORRY if that makes you feel upset.

[nocturne tiger]

Lol originally yes

But my genetic breakdown is %42 medieval turkic %58 native anatolian byzantian

Unfortunately i cannot post it here

[gaunt bronze]

Oops I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not

[thorn lagoon]

Medieval turkic?

[nocturne tiger]

Yeah

[thorn lagoon]

Some ethnicity just called themselves aryans

And iam not talking about the germans

[nocturne tiger]

Are you woke mam?

[gaunt bronze]

But it’s fine dw!! When most ppl hear it they immediately get a bad connotation

From ww2

[thorn lagoon]

Persian and a large section of Indian in ancient times called themselves aryans

[gaunt bronze]

No 😝I could never be

[gaunt bronze]

I never knew that!

[gaunt bronze]

Oh yes but I don’t think they still do or do they..?

[thorn lagoon]

Yes, now aryan has become some sort of a spiritual designation

[nocturne tiger]

Lower castes tend to be of H or L haplogroup in India. Very interesting imo. Regarding the aryanic invasion. Looks like some aryan dudes came into your lands and colonise the Indian subcontinent

[thorn lagoon]

Aryan invasion is not true

[gaunt bronze]

Ooo That’s weird I’ve never seen it used in that way

[nocturne tiger]

Guess I’ll use the Sintashta people just in case…

[nocturne tiger]

How come?

[gaunt bronze]

Most of the type when ppl talk about aryans they’re talking about ww2 & like the “Aryan race”

[thorn lagoon]

Migration is true, invasion has been dropped from the academia

[thorn lagoon]

For example, in Buddhism, the four noble path in sanskrit is

catvaryāryasatyāni

The four Arya truths

[nocturne tiger]

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Distribution-of-major-Y-SNP-haplogroups-among-the-tribal-lower-caste-and-upper-caste_fig2_6894525 what do you think about this?

[gaunt bronze]

Oh if ur talking about that then it’s fine

[thorn lagoon]

Aryan/Arya means a noble person or a noble thing

[nocturne tiger]

Tru actually. Sorry mb!

[gaunt bronze]

But it’s weird to me bc most ppl like me don’t rlly know about that

So they immediately go to ww2 and that pseudoscientific idea!! But I should’ve kept reading

[gaunt bronze]

No no it’s fine but u talking about that reminded me of that

[nocturne tiger]

Ive sent you a friend request. Would be nice if we will be able to talk

[nocturne tiger]

Yy absolutely normal

[gaunt bronze]

Of how you just have another ordinary word and then the Nazis made it so it now has a bad connotation and is super weird/a pedantic topic rlly!!

[nocturne tiger]

Unfortunately…

[thorn lagoon]

Y-SNP is closer to the andamanese groups?

[thorn lagoon]

Sure

[gaunt bronze]

How alive and living English is though! History happens when English is spoken!!

[nocturne tiger]

I have no idea who are andamanese

Lemme check

[gaunt bronze]

Sadly. Ty though

[thorn lagoon]

Tell me more about Y-SNP

First time hearing about it

[vapid hare]

As world president, I would give everyone two lambos

[nocturne tiger]

Oh i thought that u already know it since ur into population genetics

[vapid hare]

The sin what

[thorn lagoon]

I don't know everything

[nocturne tiger]

Just google it

[vapid hare]

First world classmates on par with third world ones

[nocturne tiger]

Well this is pop genetics 101 actually😝

[thorn lagoon]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture

[thorn lagoon]

Still 😢

[vapid hare]

I would make Mindeeism the official world religion as president

[vapid hare]

How do we know they used the swastika exactly

[thorn lagoon]

Okay now I get

Y-haplogroup right?

Mt-dna is used for maternal ancestry

[nocturne tiger]

Archeology.

[nocturne tiger]

Yeah. And Y for paternal line. Mine is j2 for example. Yours are probably R1a or H since ur Indian.

[thorn lagoon]

Maybe a big maybe

[nocturne tiger]

All of them come from different cultures and lineages

[thorn lagoon]

R1a is present in 50 percent of my community per a sample size

[nocturne tiger]

Which part of india are you from?

[thorn lagoon]

But, my community is mainly mongoloid

[nocturne tiger]

You look eastern.

[thorn lagoon]

So i think we are more related to the yellow river and tibetan ancestry

[nocturne tiger]

Yeah looks so

[nocturne tiger]

You should get a kit and do a DNA test.

[thorn lagoon]

Iam manipuri

[thorn lagoon]

Yes, in the future

[thorn lagoon]

This is mainly due to the Brahmin migration into our kingdom/state.

[nocturne tiger]

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Distribution-of-major-Y-SNP-haplogroups-among-the-tribal-lower-caste-and-upper-caste_fig2_6894525

%57 Mongoloid wow. Did not expect that…

[thorn lagoon]

Who?

[nocturne tiger]

You, basically.

[thorn lagoon]

Yes, some of the states in North East India look "eastern"

[nocturne tiger]

Based.

[thorn lagoon]

Meitei and naga tribes in North East India

[thorn lagoon]

The haplogroup present in low caste is also present in higher caste and vice verse in varying degrees of course

Indians are mixed

[nocturne tiger]

Ofc yeah

[nocturne tiger]

I really did not know that there are people who looks like this in India.

[thorn lagoon]

Lol Yeah

We have small demography compare to mainland Indian

And very less representation and stuff like that

[thorny steeple]

Interesting what group are those people related to

[thorn lagoon]

What do you think?
Some tribes here have folk tales about them escaping from China

[thorny steeple]

I'm thinking han Chinese, Tibetan or nepali and Bhutanese

[thorn lagoon]

Like the rong-mei people have this story

[nocturne tiger]

Makes sense since chinese are very good at expelling southern natives like thai& vietnamese

[thorny steeple]

Damn

[thorn lagoon]

Our language has been classified under tibeto-burman, and broadly under sino-tibetan family

[thorny steeple]

Makes sense why Chinese are very homogenized

[thorn lagoon]

😭 They expelled the thais and viets?

[nocturne tiger]

Yes they did that.

[nocturne tiger]

Mhm

[thorn lagoon]

One of our state's politician and mla
Sanskritised name with east Asian/tibetic face

[thorny steeple]

Since to have survived the cultural revolution

[nocturne tiger]

Are Manipuri buddhists?

[thorn lagoon]

Hindus

Majority

That's why they have sanskritised name

[thorn lagoon]

We also have turko-mongol mughals who came here

[nocturne tiger]

Go back to ur roots I would say 😉 I personally very much dislike Indian religion.

[thorn lagoon]

And married local women and have assimilated

[thorny steeple]

Is the language in danger?

[nocturne tiger]

Wow. I like Mughal architecture.

[thorn lagoon]

We gave shelter to a Mughal prince,Shah Shuja

[nocturne tiger]

Very cool!

[thorny steeple]

Interesting did it had any repercussions

[thorn lagoon]

Why?
We have our own religion tho and some are still following it.

Hinduism also has beautiful philosophy.

[thorn lagoon]

Not really

Mughals couldn't really exert their power over our region

[thorn lagoon]

Our neighbouring allied kingdom like the Ahom kingdom defeated the mughals 17 times

[thorny steeple]

That sure is a impressive record

[nocturne tiger]

Well I’m a sinophile and I dislike the Indian lifestyle and ethics. Anything non-indian is wholesome for our world. 😔

[thorn lagoon]

What ethics?

[thorn lagoon]

Maybe

It's a language under the 8th schedule tho

[thorny steeple]

How did they take over the Mughal empire

[nocturne goblet]

is evrything ok in you state now or it's still facing problems?

[nocturne tiger]

You know I’ve seen Indians have some kind of common violence towards women(sexual harassment and collective r4pe culture) and the country does not seem so hygienic to me.

[thorn lagoon]

They didn't but they defended and won against the mughal invasion

[dapper laurel]

True enough

[thorn lagoon]

That's a generalization .
Maybe you're in twitter too much lol

Yes, hygienic wise, there are some problems

[thorn lagoon]

Still problems

[nocturne goblet]

it's just a perception but in reality it's not like that the country is really beautiful and have a culture which has respect for all but in some villages which are being developed are having some problem but within 4 to 5 years we will cope up that ..
note:- the majority cities are really good to live

[thorn lagoon]

False

[dapper laurel]

Immigrants

[nocturne tiger]

Lemme check

[thorn lagoon]

Lol 🤣

[thorn lagoon]

Now don't cope

[thorny steeple]

Twitter is always a forsaken place

[nocturne goblet]

thanks for showing the reality

[thorn lagoon]

Who went to the Epstein's island?

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/italia-mattarella-patriota-patriottico-buona-notte-in-italiano-gif-511964112661538339

[thorn lagoon]

Which race have pedophile ring

[dapper laurel]

IMMIGRANTS, ALWAYS THEM

[thorn lagoon]

Okay

[nocturne goblet]

and still there is no help from the government

?

[thorn lagoon]

Yes

[nocturne tiger]

Also Ive seen so many tourists visiting india and end up getting r4ped or killed or robbed. Like SO many of them.

[thorn lagoon]

Indeed there are problems with some people

[nocturne goblet]

so is there any solution available to this problem or it will be a never solving issue

[thorny steeple]

You got to remember they to contribute to the economy

[nocturne tiger]

Yeah.

[dapper laurel]

It's true, there are now many of them and they contribute to a large slice of GDP

[thorn lagoon]

It's a very complex situation.

Maybe congress govt will fix it better than BJP

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[nocturne goblet]

but it's not in power ..
and why do you think that congress will fix it ?

[thorn lagoon]

Not only do i think they will fix it, they would have prevented the whole situation

Manipur congress govt was very good at controlling riots and militants

Shoot at sight to rioters

[nocturne goblet]

when you are having elections

for state government

???

[thorn lagoon]

The present govt have 3 years left I guess

[nocturne goblet]

so you have to be in this situation for the next 3 years ?

[thorn lagoon]

What is the present govt doing?

[nocturne goblet]

i don't know that is why i am asking from you

[thorn lagoon]

There has been a normalization of a partition like situation

[thorn lagoon]

With Modi and State govt claiming there is normalcy

[nocturne goblet]

manipur will split into two parts

[thorn lagoon]

How is it normal that some people can't go across some into parts/areas

[nocturne goblet]

but in reality youu are saying its not

[thorn lagoon]

Not gonna happen

Iam telling you it is complex

[thorny steeple]

Will you vote?

[thorn lagoon]

It is not tribals vs non tribals

[thorn lagoon]

Nagas won't be so fond of kukiland

[thorn lagoon]

Yes

[thorn lagoon]

It is not

[thorny steeple]

India seems very diverse

[thorn lagoon]

There are thousands of people in relief camps

[nocturne goblet]

seems like it's more complex than i thought

[thorn lagoon]

Maybe normal for us but not for them

[thorn lagoon]

Lots of factors

[nocturne goblet]

the small tents??

[thorn lagoon]

And i feel the Indian govt is playing divide and rule politics here

[thorny steeple]

Wouldn't that cause polarization

[thorn lagoon]

All those inaction towards kuki militants seem strategic.

Kuki militants themselves were propped up the Indian Army to fight the naga separatists( and now the meitei separatists)

[thorn lagoon]

Yes, it is causing polarization

[nocturne goblet]

it's been 6 months or more than that?

[thorn lagoon]

More than 1 year

[nocturne goblet]

which places are prohibited for locals

[thorn lagoon]

Kukis can't come to the imphal valley and meiteis can't go to the kuki hilly areas

[thorn lagoon]

And, there's the geo-politics angle too.
These kuki militants on the other side of border are fighting against the military junta

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/indian-forces-helping-kuki-militants-to-wage-war-against-meitei-groups-in-myanmar-nscn/article68179919.ece

[nocturne goblet]

before all this civil war does the kuki and meitis were living together with peace

[thorn lagoon]

Classic divide and rule politics

[nocturne goblet]

?

[thorny steeple]

That sure seems like it could cause destabilizing situations

[thorn lagoon]

Yes.

[nocturne goblet]

ok

[thorn lagoon]

It further alleged that the security forces even allowed “the Kuki militant groups operating in Tengnoupal district, Manipur, to enter Myanmar and fight with the Meitei revolutionary groups. Nothing is left to doubt about the dubious role of Indian Security Forces, as they use the Kukis as frontal forces to engage in bloody discord against the Nagas, giving all logistics support to the Kuki militant groups.”

Supporting one ethnicity's militants over another separatists group to curb the other

Classics divide and rule

[thorn lagoon]

It will backfire later on

[thorny steeple]

It sure it would

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/Bills-trigger-fury-in-Manipur/article60294150.ece

How congress govt deal with rioters

[thorny steeple]

With tear gas or batons

[thorn lagoon]

With Bullets

[thorny steeple]

Damn that seems bad

[thorn lagoon]

Violent rioters should be dealt with this way

[thorn lagoon]

These two know how to deal with militancy and rioters than the current govt

[thorny steeple]

Seems their practice is effective wouldn't it backfire?

[thorn lagoon]

It didn't backfire ,as least tangibly.

But, yeah, they have lot of fake encounter cases under their govt

[thorny steeple]

Well corruption has bad is it?

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/nine-manipur-policemen-acquitted-in-2009-bt-road-fake-encounter-case-due-to-lack-of-evidence-1241295.html

Under the BJP govt in Manipur, fake encounter has been reduced but at what cost?

[thorny steeple]

The sacrifice of something to the better of something

[thorn lagoon]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounter_killing

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

America does have something like this it happens in times

[thorn lagoon]

Police faking the encounter?

[thorny steeple]

It happens

[thorn lagoon]

Critics are sceptical of the police motivation behind many of these reported incidents,[2] and further complain that the wide acceptance of the practice has led to incidents of the police staging encounters to conceal the killing of suspects when they are either already in custody or are unarmed or have surrendered (or would have been willing to surrender if given the opportunity).

[thorny steeple]

I remember a police shoot through their own car due to thinking shoots were fire

It was a acorn luckily the suspect survived due to and unrelated crime

[thorn lagoon]

Here , some police officers will kill unarmed insurgents and place weapons to them after they are being killed

And they will say they killed the guy in an encounter

[thorny steeple]

Here's the video: https://youtu.be/NKmnJgXyZpU?si=bq-v2QNJxwL_3Jot

[thorn lagoon]

💀

[thorny steeple]

Well it's America the police officers reiceved an amount of training not on par with other naty

[thorn lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-steven-duran-istaysharp-tiktok-george-floyd-turn-back-gif-17979631

[thorn lagoon]

Iam telling you just one facet of the conflict ( I.e myanmar geopolitics and Indian counter insurgency thing)

There is drugs and immigrantion angle as well

The conflict and unrest is multifaceted

And all of facets come into play

[thorn lagoon]

The main genesis would be current BJP govt demolishing some churches and protecting the forest areas from encroachment

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/over-900-new-villages-poppy-cultivation-forest-cover-loss-manipur-chief-minister-n-biren-singh-on-illegal-immigrants-5559215

[bold escarp]

Is anyone here going to Canada on vacation this year?

[unique light]

Going to Canada on vacation? 🥴

What are people planning to do in Canada on their vacation?

[thorny steeple]

Canadian stuff

[unique light]

Irish stuff

[thorny steeple]

Who has the best maple 🍁 Syrup

[unique light]

Canada I guess

[bold escarp]

They could improve their English in real life, you know

[thorny steeple]

Well they have French influence

[unique light]

Going to Canada on vacation to improve English sounds wild to me

[thorny steeple]

Y'know Quebec

[bold escarp]

They could meet locals

They could check a country on their list

Maybe they dislike all inclusive resorts

[thorn lagoon]

23andme?

[bold escarp]

You can be happy for the people who want to go there on vacation

[unique light]

Why can though?

[bold escarp]

Unless you admit that, for instance, people who left Europe between 1990 and 2005 made a mistake by going to Canada

Who left Europe to work in Canada and to have families and never come back

[thorny steeple]

The Canadian Dream

[bold escarp]

Or people who left South Korea between 1990 and 2005 for Canada

[unique light]

Canada sucks in comparison to the U.S.

[thorny steeple]

Better than the American Dream

[thorny steeple]

Canadians are Nice

[unique light]

They are nice, but Canada (country) sucks in comparison to the U.S. in my opinion

I'd really like to move to the U.S.

[thorn lagoon]

That has nothing to do with Indian religion

[thorny steeple]

Well go to Vermont

[unique light]

Why?

[thorny steeple]

Great small towns

Good people and jobs

[unique light]

But what if I'm a pilot?

[thorn lagoon]

Buddhism is also an Indian religion but present in east asian and south east asian countries

[unique light]

There're no major airports in Vermont

[thorny steeple]

That's better

Are you a military pilot

[unique light]

No

[thorny steeple]

Or Civilian pilot

[unique light]

Yea, this option describes me better

[thorny steeple]

Just create your own airline

[unique light]

AerSeals

[thorny steeple]

Remember America is the land of the dreams

[unique light]

I would need to convert the licenses to FAA type

If I'm an EASA pilot license holder

[thorn lagoon]

Goofy ahh owl

[manic juniper]

It worked

[torpid charm]

species?

what is that

[thorny steeple]

It did, they are seen here more as Brazilians than Arabs, some of them just preserve their traditions

[torpid charm]

silver-striped hawk-moth?

[thorny steeple]

Are you a moth Owner?

[manic juniper]

Hippotion celerio

[manic juniper]

I was, she is free now

[thorny steeple]

You sure have a heart for animals

Free thé moth!!!

She was very very scared while being captured i can assure you

[wraith sorrel]

i know u

[thorny steeple]

I know you too

[wraith sorrel]

hmm

who am i

[thorny steeple]

This Luc guy

[near rivet]

So

Who's pretty

Who's popular

[wraith sorrel]

someone

[thorny steeple]

Izaya

[near rivet]

Who's the king

[wraith sorrel]

king is me(izana)

[thorny steeple]

Beo

[near rivet]

Ayo izana and izaya

Only one letter difference

[wraith sorrel]

na it's izana

[near rivet]

Popular is you

[wraith sorrel]

one of my fav character

[near rivet]

Definitely

Oki goodnight

[thorny steeple]

Sure sure I'm just known by everyone here

[wraith sorrel]

just go sleep already

[thorny steeple]

Ye

Beo

Luc

Where are you from

[thorny steeple]

He's lost in time

Lul

Time traveler

"Lutheran" culture

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[thorny steeple]

Lost on time

[vague moth]

Wot? Scandinavian culture is based on Lutheranism? How can you see that?

[thorny steeple]

How

The " " means I disagree with that

It is a screenshot from youtube

Ave Christus Rex

[vague moth]

Ahhh, makes sense

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from, Luca

[thorny steeple]

Et Ave Maria Mater Dei

[vague moth]

Germany

You?

[thorny steeple]

Ave Maria gratia plena

[thorny steeple]

Austria

[thorny steeple]

Dominus tecum

Oh both of you are German never expected that

Benedicta tu in mulieribus

I never saw Germans here

[thorny steeple]

Im not

Et benedictus fructus ventris tui Iesus

Sancta Maria Mater Dei

Ora pro nobis pecatoribus

Nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae

Amen

Amen

[vague moth]

If you like you can take bavaria but otherwise they are seperate countries

[thorny steeple]

I dont need Bavaria lol

[vague moth]

I don't want it either and I live there lol

[thorny steeple]

Im glad we arent controlled by them anymore

[thorny steeple]

Imagine a independent Bavaria

[vague moth]

About 1/3 of bavaria could imagine a country like this

[thorny steeple]

Bavaria has more inhabitants than Austria, hence, they'd hava more votes and could overrule us

[thorny steeple]

Indeed a Bavarian hegemony

I only wanna unite tyrol

[vague moth]

This is a valid reason to not let them in the own country

[thorny steeple]

As it'd make more sense for south tyrol to belong to Austria

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, we wanna make our own desicions, lol

[vague moth]

Never been there but they speak mostly German aren't they?

[thorny steeple]

The Tyrol Question

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, italy only got it after wwi

For being a traitor

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

They speak the Tyrolian dialect there

Where are you from, John

[thorny steeple]

Caribbean

[vague moth]

Sounds reasonable to reintegrate south tyrol. Adds another economical strong region through touristics

[thorny steeple]

@dapper laurel what do you think?

[thorny steeple]

He says no

[thorny steeple]

Dominican Republic?

[thorny steeple]

More likely

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[dapper laurel]

I think I'm just angry today and if I give my honest opinion I might get banned

[thorny steeple]

Why

[dapper laurel]

Nah, just today's mood, maybe tomorrow will be better

[thorny steeple]

How old are you, ando

South Tyrol is goated siu

Forza Sinner 💪💪🇦🇹

[thorny steeple]

Just try to not get banned

[dapper laurel]

Mmmmmmmh

[thorny steeple]

Say

[dapper laurel]

Wait a moment

I'll tell you with an equation

[thorny steeple]

Man ey

[dapper laurel]

Let me think for a moment

[thorny steeple]

22

I already know

I could read your mind

[dapper laurel]

2x² -10x -450=0

Solve it

[thorny steeple]

I need a piece of paper

[thorny steeple]

Use anything like water

Or type in the chat

[dapper laurel]

You can also get there without calculations, at what age do you study quadratic equations?

[thorn lagoon]

quadratic equation

didnt see the square

[dapper laurel]

Np, linear equations are goated

[thorn lagoon]

use completing the square method i guess

[dapper laurel]

I don't know what it's called in English, but I use this formula

[dapper laurel]

Just let me find it in the math book, I get tired of writing it here

[thorn lagoon]

splitting the middle term ?

[vague moth]

According to my equation you will be born in over 800 years. It's an honor speaking with you

[thorny steeple]

Do it reverse

[dapper laurel]

How do you write triangle on the telephone keypad?

[thorny steeple]

∆

[dapper laurel]

And you know why?

Cuz I'm the best troll ever existed

[thorny steeple]

Uh

[thorny steeple]

Seems so

Just use solve

Casio beste mann

[thorny steeple]

At which grade do you guys study that?

[thorny steeple]

11/12 grade in America

But it's polynomials

And quadratic stuff

[thorny steeple]

9th

[vague moth]

Depending on the school you go to in 9th?

[dapper laurel]

Wait wait

I'll give you another one to solve

[thorny steeple]

Taschenrechner

[thorny steeple]

Make it harder

Casio kann alles

[dapper laurel]

This will be good, you'll have a laugh as soon as you solve it

[dapper laurel]

It will take 10 minutes I think

[vague moth]

Mine can't do this. Do you got the graphical one?

[thorny steeple]

That works

[thorny steeple]

Yes, casio

[thorny steeple]

Which year?

[vague moth]

I have three casio here and only one of them mightdo this lol

[thorny steeple]

Lol Casio from 9th grade on (high school

[dapper laurel]

I'm writing it, I just have to solve it and check the result then

[thorny steeple]

Okay

[dapper laurel]

Time to time

[vague moth]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[vague moth]

The fuck?

[thorny steeple]

Looks old

[thorny steeple]

I never saw this model before

Lul

Looks like a phone from 2008

[vague moth]

I know this model but it's not allowed in school here

[thorny steeple]

Cheating basically

It's standard here

[vague moth]

Kind of

[thorny steeple]

We need it for finals

[dapper laurel]

I must say, you have a nice calculator

[thorny steeple]

Without this you have no chance

[thorny steeple]

Thank you

[thorny steeple]

Can't you do math in your head?

[thorny steeple]

Lol, would take way too long

Imagine calculating a sinus in your head

[thorny steeple]

Yea waay too long

Or functions, we only have 100 mins dude

Ok, i'll have lunch Bye my friends

[dapper laurel]

I think I have it

[thorny steeple]

Have fun

[vague moth]

Well yeah we do that. You need to know the meaning of the equation and how the graph will look like

[dapper laurel]

Almost done

[thorny steeple]

And then you have

[vague moth]

Depression

[thorny steeple]

The severe one

[vague moth]

Indeed

[thorny steeple]

Akkkk, i need to study because tree

[thorny steeple]

Same

My math level is abysmal I should have taken care of it long time ago

Yes

I need to study Integral (calculus)

Same

And Algebra

And polynomials and quadratic

And division and multiplication and addition and subtraction

Yes

Alllll, i need to study other stuff first though

[thorny steeple]

To know math you need to know it's base

Foundation

I do

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[shut parrot]

Hey guys

[dapper laurel]

@thorny steeple I'm trying with systems of inequalities, it's almost impossible

[thorny steeple]

Well start from the beginning then finish it

[dapper laurel]

I wrote 7 pages of notebook, I think my age will remain a secret

[thorny steeple]

If you failed it

[thorny steeple]

Dayum

[dapper laurel]

in reality I have to invent it to get the result I want

I'm making attempts, making little changes to numbers

Oh well, I was sick, I couldn't leave home, this is the best way to pass the time

[thorny steeple]

Make it super complicated

[dapper laurel]

SECOND DEGREE INEQUATION SYSTEMS

[thorny steeple]

I need to study too much ughh

Akakaka

Who of you is in Uni?

[dapper laurel]

There will be a range between two or more numbers

[thorny steeple]

Sounds interesting

[thorny steeple]

Lol, i solved it with my casio

[thorny steeple]

And so complete

[dapper laurel]

Well, I'm trying to solve them with my pen

[thorny steeple]

Are you muslim

[thorny steeple]

Make it short

[dapper laurel]

Why?

[thorny steeple]

Why are you in Salam talk

The final draft

You are on this Muslim server

[thorny steeple]

What's Salam talk?

[dapper laurel]

I could ask you the same question... However, I wanted to learn something about the Muslim religion in order to debate better with them

[thorny steeple]

Interesting are you a polymath?

[thorny steeple]

But im also on other religious servers not only muslim

[dapper laurel]

But I learned nothing because some parts of their theology are strange

[thorny steeple]

Im also on CDD

[dapper laurel]

I already know Christian theology

[thorny steeple]

Like?

[dapper laurel]

At least the Catholic teachings, because that's my denomination

[thorny steeple]

Watched useful charts?

Which charts, dude

[dapper laurel]

Because Muhammad probably took inspiration from the Bible for the Quran and there're several biographical errors in what he wrote, and this makes me even more confused

I was hoping to dispel my doubts in these servers, but without success

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/Q0pwncVA5Mc?si=_sqGXHajZQ7jf2wC

[dapper laurel]

I wanted to learn more about the concept of jihad, it's a fairly debated topic and I wanted to know more

[dapper laurel]

What changes between the denominations?

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/-SGzYrGzBlA?si=g_UMGiVqs-rohZa1

[dapper laurel]

This will be helpful

[thorny steeple]

It sure will

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/_tOyrIlIpLg?si=PXDFMul4QOAaV2_r

[thorny steeple]

Do you wanna convert to islam

[dapper laurel]

I don't really know, I would like to study all the religions and understand which one is the most convincing

For now I define myself as agnostic

[thorny steeple]

May Allah guide you, alhamdulillah

[thorny steeple]

Tell me if anything changes, dude

[dapper laurel]

Are you Muslim?

[thorny steeple]

Then useful charts works for you

[thorny steeple]

You can also join religion debates here on the english hub and no

[dapper laurel]

I have been in this phase since June, all inconclusive, for now only blackpills for me 😌

[thorny steeple]

There's Wikipedia

Yeah, i hope youll find the truth

And change your mind

Free Tyrol 🗣️ 🔥

[dapper laurel]

I'm thinking of giving up debates, they're not very constructive after all, maybe I'll read some books

[thorny steeple]

Depends on the person lmao

Watch yt

[dapper laurel]

Let's say it doesn't make me feel good arguing on discord, it makes me quite anxious

[thorny steeple]

You can watch debates between Dawkins and Lennox for example

Lol

[dapper laurel]

Same feeling

[thorny steeple]

Forza Sinner orgoglio italiano 💪🟩⬜🟥

[dapper laurel]

I don't like seeing people argue, I think I'll look at the opinions separately

[thorny steeple]

You can

It's your life

Still watch YT lectures

Here I present you the Interrobang ‽

@dapper laurel

Dude, do you like tennis

[dapper laurel]

Yep

[thorny steeple]

Tennis 🎾 player

[dapper laurel]

I play rugby, but I really like sports in general

[thorny steeple]

Do you like thiem

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

Sportsman

He is a Champion

Olympics when

Yea mate

Will you join the Olympics 2028

[dapper laurel]

I'm still too young

[lean ibex]

lol

[thorny steeple]

No age restriction

[thorny steeple]

There people young like you in the Olympics

Lol

Be the Olympics championship 🏆

[dapper laurel]

I don't even know if rugby is an Olympic sport

[thorny steeple]

Yes, Russian Girls are casually winning gold at 15

And retiring at 17

[thorny steeple]

Well check it

[dapper laurel]

I only play rugby to vent my pent-up anger, nothing that exciting

[thorny steeple]

Wb skiing

You live in the mountains dont you

[thorny steeple]

Lul, why do you have anger issues

[dapper laurel]

I'm afraid of hurting myself, it's already happened once

[thorny steeple]

Just make sure you don't Break the boundary

[thorny steeple]

Nah, ju gotta wear protection

[thorny steeple]

Now explain where you're from dude

Btw

[dapper laurel]

The cities here are quite small, aren't you going to come looking for me then?

[thorny steeple]

No, why should i

[dapper laurel]

I had gone close to Fleres, never again

[thorny steeple]

Ohohoj

What's fleres dude

[thorny steeple]

She will

I wont

And come for your head

Junge, dont be weird

[dapper laurel]

It's a really small town, a tourist resort for skiing, let's say it wasn't the best

It's really close to Austria

[thorny steeple]

Look she won't come for you just say the country instead of the city 🌆

[thorny steeple]

*It is Austria

[thorny steeple]

It's not Tyrol btw

He is German Italian but i dont understand how

[dapper laurel]

I'll get over it

[thorny steeple]

I'm sure he's pure Italian

[dapper laurel]

Naaaah

I might be Indian

From North Macedonia

I could be from Sofia

In Bulgaria

[thorny steeple]

Nah

He is half German

[dapper laurel]

I might be Swedish

Chinese

[thorny steeple]

Yea

Swedish Andosweher

What does it mean that the Abrahamic God is omniscient?

[dapper laurel]

It's all online guys, in the end it doesn't matter what strangers tell you, you may or may not trust them

[thorny steeple]

True now help @thorny steeple with the question posted

[dapper laurel]

My name may be fake, it may be changed, it will be difficult to understand

I might be a lie after all

Who knows

[dapper laurel]

Kollege, sorry, what question?

[thorny steeple]

What does it mean that the Abrahamic God is omniscient?

[thorny steeple]

Junge tu nicht so auf Mysterium

[thorny steeple]

Present everywhere

In everything and everyone

And knows everything

[dapper laurel]

I don't know, maybe you can Google it

[thorny steeple]

I didn't say omnipresent, I mean omniscient.

[dapper laurel]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

.

[dapper laurel]

Nenn mich nicht so, Mädchen

[thorny steeple]

To be omniscient is to know everything.

[thorny steeple]

Doch, Junge

[dapper laurel]

Even the future?

[thorny steeple]

As I said

[thorny steeple]

But how does he know things?

[thorny steeple]

Ja, allwissend

[thorny steeple]

Well he's God he just knows things

[thorny steeple]

Lol, he is God

He always has known everything and Always will do so

[thorny steeple]

Ok but I mean for example I know that 2 + 2 = 4 but to know that I have to do a computation. Does God know things instantaneously or does he have to do a computation?

It's not like humans who have to acquire Knowles

[thorny steeple]

Instantaneously i suppose

[dapper laurel]

If this is truly the case, what's the point of preaching about good against evil if he already knows everything and also knows how it will end, it's almost a paradox. This also explains that free will does not exist if there's a god

[thorny steeple]

He knows things since he's God y'know

[thorny steeple]

So the question arises. How does God have a mind? Think about it, we are only conscious when a signal passes through neurons, consciousness exists the moment a computation is performed.

[thorny steeple]

God isnt sth material ig

He doesnt have a body in the sense we do i think

[thorny steeple]

But it has nothing to do with the material world. It's an abstract concept.

[dapper laurel]

And God cannot even be omnipotent

[thorny steeple]

Computation doesn't require a material world at all.

[thorny steeple]

God Could Be the Universe

[dapper laurel]

It's all a scam

[thorny steeple]

Even if the simulation is intrinsic to the fact that his mind has infinite depth, does this god have to perform a computation to know whether 2+2 equals 4 or not?

[thorny steeple]

Because he want us to live in peace and i think we do have free will, we can take actions

A mind that already knows all the results is not a mind it does not perform any computation i.e. it does not think.
It is a static object a lookup table, an object in which any pre-computed result already exists.
If it's like you say that he already knows everything then it's easier to be an infinite sheet of paper where the infinite answers to the infinite possible questions are written and there's no need for anything to move, it just exists.

[dapper laurel]

There is truly no free will if good will win against evil, at least that's what the bible says

[thorny steeple]

Intelligence and awareness come from the fact that you don't know everything and calculations are needed to predict the world you are in.

[thorny steeple]

I suppose he still acts and isnt static as he works out of our perception

[thorny steeple]

Well, everyone can choose on which side they wanna be and act freely

[dapper laurel]

And if we already know that good will win against evil, why do wars and famines happen? It would be unnecessary suffering

[thorny steeple]

Only because God allegendly knows everything

[thorny steeple]

That is, you mean he is omnipotent and omniscient and outside of time and his mind is infinitely deep, but he cannot solve a problem without computation and computation intrinsically makes us conscious. The problem is that it goes against Abrahamic ideas.

[dapper laurel]

He can know everything, but he cannot even be omnipotent

[thorny steeple]

It's the people who choose to rebell against God as far as i know Not God

[thorny steeple]

So,

• God knows choice "C" that a human would claim to "make freely".
• It is now necessary that C.
• If it is now necessary that C, then C cannot be otherwise (this is the definition of “necessary”). That is, there are no actual "possibilities" due to predestination.
• If you cannot do otherwise when you act, you do not act freely (Principle of Alternate Possibilities)
• Therefore, when you do an act, you will not do it freely.

[thorny steeple]

I think he can yet idk what that is

[thorny steeple]

I guess you're not religious if you can't explain your god.

[dapper laurel]

But if good will win against evil, what sense does the existence of evil itself have at this point?

[thorny steeple]

I just dont know what you're talking about, dude

And i can't answer you both

[thorny steeple]

I am asking what it means that the deities derived from the Abrahamic religion are omniscient (like Allah). Because from a logical point of view it is inconsistent.

[thorny steeple]

I can't follow this: it is now necessary that C. That C what

[thorny steeple]

That Allah is all knowing ig he should have ultimative knowledge

[thorny steeple]

C identifies a choice a human being makes.

[thorny steeple]

Ok but I mean for example I know that 2 + 2 = 4 but to know that I have to do a computation. Does God know things instantaneously or does he have to do a computation?

[thorny steeple]

Free will: people can choose to rebell against God

You seem to be unaccustomed to logic.

[thorny steeple]

Computation what

[thorny steeple]

A mind that already knows all the results is not a mind it does not perform any computation i.e. it does not think.
It is a static object a lookup table, an object in which any pre-computed result already exists.
If it's like you say that he already knows everything then it's easier to be an infinite sheet of paper where the infinite answers to the infinite possible questions are written and there's no need for anything to move, it just exists.

[dapper laurel]

But what's the point of rebelling against God if good will win against evil, it's just masochism, it wouldn't make sense and if God is omnipotent, why does Satan or devils exist?

Anyway, I think I have to go

[thorny steeple]

Ask people

[dapper laurel]

Tschüss

[thorny steeple]

They dont believe in God therefore, they dont believe in his teaching thus they rebell

[thorny steeple]

Tschüss

[thorny steeple]

He is not religious enough to talk about his religion. I will wait for someone more educated in the subject. I hint you to do the same.

[thorny steeple]

I am still learning. He is acting, therefore ig he is thinking.

[thorny steeple]

Ask theologians about this

[dapper laurel]

Who is he?

Me or the other?

I feel very triggered

Or I'm just tired

[thorny steeple]

Ok but maybe from the point of view of God who is outside of time the universe is a static object. In reality omniscience understood as "God knows everything instantly" as I just explained to you necessarily implies this. It also implies that God does not have a mind, but is a static object with infinite depth.
Instead, my proposal is that God "knows everything" and is outside of time, but still needs to perform a computation with his infinitely deep mind to know (so it doesn't really know everything). This would be more compatible with the idea of ​​free will.

[thorny steeple]

I am talking about @thorny steeple. You doesn't seem religious at all.

[dapper laurel]

Religion is a very complicated thing, there will be many difficulties, maybe "it" is just learning, let's not make useless accusations

[thorny steeple]

I tried but they can't answer me, they are not very educated in math subjects.

[thorny steeple]

What accusation?

[dapper laurel]

I use it because I don't know the gender of my interlocutor

[mortal gale]

Can I raise another topic

[dapper laurel]

"Not being very religious at all" It's a phrase made to embarrass

[thorny steeple]

Even if you are still learning, the phrase "you don't seem very educated in the subject" is not an accusation but is equivalent to saying "You don't seem very religious, since you don't know much about your religion". And you might wonder why I would say this, the reason is simple, if you can't answer fundamental questions that are the basis of your beliefs, you are probably not very religious.

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but this puts him in an uncomfortable situation, which is why I, for example, try to avoid debates on discord

[thorny steeple]

God thinks, but is not moved, He has emotions but is the perfect embodiment of them, emotions do not move God nor do they complete Him

~ Lou

[lime jolt]

wsg people

[thorny steeple]

Wsg tirol

[thorny steeple]

I think there is nothing wrong with stepping out of your comfort zone when your abilities or beliefs are questioned. In fact, I think it is an experience that helps you grow as an individual, as a person I subject myself to this type of stress every day precisely to learn.

Anyway, I have to leave you unfortunately. I have more urgent things to do at the moment. Thank you for your time and I wish you a wonderful day ദ്ദി(˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧!

[dapper laurel]

Stress is good, but not on a public server, these situations only lead to make an ass of yourself

[dapper laurel]

Lol

[thorny steeple]

Stress is never good

[dapper laurel]

But I prefer Südtirol

[thorny steeple]

Wsg Tirol is a Money club

[dapper laurel]

Even if we are still in Serie B

[thorn lagoon]

God doesn't have emotions

[dapper laurel]

Wait, really?

[thorny steeple]

They just get sponsered by Swarovski

[thorny steeple]

I think he does

[dapper laurel]

Now it makes sense

[dapper laurel]

The "Türkiye" shirt makes everything more realistic

[thorny steeple]

Yes, me too. I love everything about South Tyrol. Exept those things related to italy

[dapper laurel]

🙁

[thorny steeple]

Akakaka türkiye bad memories

[thorny steeple]

If they gave us South Tyrol id like italy yet they'd still be traitors

[thorny steeple]

Still 6:1 siu

[dapper laurel]

I'm not a traitor after all

[thorny steeple]

No but italy in history has been

[dapper laurel]

When?

[thorny steeple]

Lol, they just randomly switched sides

Wwi, biggest traitor

And in wwi Austria didn't even do that bad stuff

[dapper laurel]

In the First World War they were not obliged to intervene according to the Triple Alliance, in the Second World War there was a civil war

[thorny steeple]

Yes, still they should have been on our side

And lost with us

[dapper laurel]

They declared themselves neutral and effectively left the alliance

[thorny steeple]

Yes, i know but i still feel betrayed

Anyway, i joined some event

I'll have to listen

Angelic is having a Presentation

[dapper laurel]

I have to say that it wasn't a good thing, but it could have been done, after all

[thorny steeple]

😭😭

[dapper laurel]

Now, tschüss. fr now

[thorny steeple]

Jaja

Tschüss 👋🫶

🗣️🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹

[stuck orchid]

i ooffer you 100100mil and 1010years to improve yourself but in the end i judge how much you improved

[desert nebula]

That's nice:)

[mortal gale]

What do you think about what happened in the Olympics in Women's boxe category in the match between Khelif and Carini?

[unique light]

Bruv lives forever

[thorny steeple]

He's gonna improve his next generations

[thorny steeple]

What's your religion?

Abrahamic epicurist syncretizer

[feral river]

don't say they are traitor, they succeed every time

if you win you are on the right side if you lose you are a traitor

[manic juniper]

Italy is skilled in rebranding itself after every world war

[manic juniper]

Romania joined on the winners' side in the very last day in WW1

[feral river]

well they lost a big part of their territory like Southern Italy and Somaliland

[manic juniper]

They gained pretty much all Romanian majority territory around themselves

[manic juniper]

Southern Italy? 🤔

[feral river]

Libya

[manic juniper]

Only losing colonies isn't a bad deal

[feral river]

not really that's under their control and its part of their territory at that time

[manic juniper]

They lost more in the North but I don't remember what exactly now

[dapper laurel]

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[feral river]

you can't just say that's their colony because they don't want to integrate it

like France did in africa

[dapper laurel]

Rightttttttttt

[feral river]

it's a slow progress for western powers to expand their core state by conquering not like eastern powers

they care their freaking values more than power and rule itself

[dapper laurel]

We lost Istria and Dalmatia

[feral river]

that's why they are still divided and almost no one could dominate the entire region

[manic juniper]

Yes those, they were Italian majority at the times

[dapper laurel]

Yep 🙁

[manic juniper]

It made more sense to keep them but ehhh too late and the losers always have to pay

[feral river]

well majority or not, doesn't really matter in an authoritarian state

especially Fascist Italy

[dapper laurel]

Fascist Italy was so goofy

[feral river]

like we created a term called Chinese national which included the all of the people who live in China

but they are different btw and how we gonna establish that ? through war and rule

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mussolini-benito-mussolini-bingus-bingus-love-italy-gif-23786907

[dapper laurel]

For me they should leave the peninsula, but the beautiful girls can stay

[feral river]

someone focus on independent or their own identity will just put on the camp to do the re-education thing

[manic juniper]

This was in 1400 I believe, they still exist

[thorn lagoon]

You yourself needs re education