🧠｜serious-chat

[manic juniper]

They have a different immigration system and different laws

[gaunt bronze]

There are like tens of thousands of differences. We have a different judicial system, a different policing system, different emergency management system, different military system, different tax system, different criminal code, different opinions, some cultural difference that ppl wouldn't want to lose, different merits, different government, etc.

[thorny steeple]

Even Canadians face problems with internal differences

[gaunt bronze]

The possibility is so low and doing it would be sooo messy.

Ugh, Quebec. They try to be separate but the fact is they'll never be separate.

[dapper laurel]

Aaaah, Quebec, France, Paris, lovely 😍

[manic juniper]

Germany and Austria are only separated because of WW2 trauma

Realistically being separated doesn't make sense for them either

[gaunt bronze]

Oui, oui. Quebec separatism and western alienation.

[versed rain]

yes, There are differences such as sect, tradition and assimilation, but we love each other too much

[thorny steeple]

Canada has most of its population on the frontier due to them avoiding Americans in their country

[dapper laurel]

In a federation everyone will be able to maintain the laws they want

[thorny steeple]

Would not make sense to unite now

[thorny steeple]

The quiet revolution and its consequences

[gaunt bronze]

We are a federal state, but we are also a constitutional monarchy with the English parliamentary system (with unique Canadian differences overtime).

[manic juniper]

I was speaking about Canada there but anyway Azerbaijan would just add to Turkey's diversity, I don't think it would hurt it much

[thorny steeple]

Actually Lousiana should have been Quebecois tho

[gaunt bronze]

Our legal systems are different and so many of our laws would clash or whatever.

[manic juniper]

If anything Azerbaijan shouldn't join Turkey because it's less fucked up right now

[dapper laurel]

We want new anschluss, now

[manic juniper]

But in a better world both countries would be one

[gaunt bronze]

Oh yes! I remember learning about that.

[dapper laurel]

Even getting the Sudetenland back wouldn't be bad

[gaunt bronze]

We try to be inclusive to Quebec while still making sure it is considered a 'distinct society' within Canada.

[thorny steeple]

Weren't they on war not long ago

[gaunt bronze]

Are you German?

[manic juniper]

I believe that, if Ingrians and Izhorians still existed, we would also be united with Estonia, we straight up helped them and they did the same with us after our independence, both countries wanted a new Finnic nation and I don't see why they couldn't unite

[dapper laurel]

Prussia too, Königsberg

[manic juniper]

When

[cerulean sleet]

@dapper laurel where did u go in the last discussion 😂

[thorny steeple]

Anti prussia

[gaunt bronze]

It's so funny to me how small European countries are but how rich their history is...and they're small but their GDP is great.

[cerulean sleet]

We proved you wrong huh?

[dapper laurel]

I left the house to go out with friends

[gaunt bronze]

On the otherhand, we're bigger than all of Europe and our GDP isn't even that big. 😩

[thorny steeple]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Nagorno-Karabakh_War

[dapper laurel]

It's complicated

[manic juniper]

They were on the same side

[thorny steeple]

He is Italian german

[gaunt bronze]

WHAT-

[dapper laurel]

Nah

[thorny steeple]

And he claims South Tyrol

[manic juniper]

Even the people that Turkey and Azerbaijan hate are the same

If hate doesn't unite them I don't see what else will

[thorny steeple]

They = Azerbaijan itself. Not Turkiye

[versed rain]

Turkey gave only Bayraktar drones

[dapper laurel]

I belong here, so

[manic juniper]

What

[thorny steeple]

#thereIsOnlyOneTyrol

[dapper laurel]

Kebab

[thorny steeple]

Türkiyyyyyyeeeee

[gaunt bronze]

This European talk is confusing me, help- 😴

[versed rain]

haha

[manic juniper]

Azerbaijan never was at war with Turkey, they are allies as much as Estonia and Latvia are

[thorny steeple]

#ISupportArmenia

#Kami2024

[gaunt bronze]

For what??

[versed rain]

It didn't happen anyway. Armenia and Azerbaijan fought.

in karabakh

[manic juniper]

Nagorno-Karabakh

[thorny steeple]

You said Azerbaijan shouldn't join Turkey now because it's less fucked up, and I said Azerbaijan was on war (despite it having won it)

#IStandWithArmenia

[onyx hazel]

I think the fact that they persecute Christians isn't a reason to prohibit them wearing a hijab

[gaunt bronze]

You're speaking another language now...

[manic juniper]

Because the Turkish economy is a fucking mess, why would Azerbaijan willingly choose to torture itself

[dapper laurel]

And we don't give a shi

[versed rain]

please dont type spam

[thorny steeple]

Also there is only one tyrol

[thorny steeple]

That's Not spam

[manic juniper]

It's not like Turkey avoided war either

[versed rain]

but u just type hasthags

[thorny steeple]

Yes, so what

[onyx hazel]

China doesn't support Israel (despite being a capitalist dictatorship)

[thorny steeple]

It's my opinion

In hashtags

[versed rain]

there is no mean

[thorny steeple]

Saying France isn't friendly with Muslims is ingenuous

[thorny steeple]

I dont understand

[dapper laurel]

What's the point? let him speak, his opinion will remain something theoretical 😂

[versed rain]

France dont want turkey in eu becahse of muslim stream

[thorny steeple]

No

[onyx hazel]

Well, anybody can say the same thing for the Christians too

[thorny steeple]

We will unite Tyrol 🗣️

[dapper laurel]

In fact, but I can fight for them as well

[onyx hazel]

both can fight

[thorny steeple]

Every mall in Brazil has something related to Italy

[dapper laurel]

But someone will win

[thorny steeple]

Austria could invate Italy yet italy is part of Nato

[thorny steeple]

Fake italy

[dapper laurel]

I don't think it will happen anyway, Italy has a stronger military power and industry

[versed rain]

There are many restaurants of Italian origin in Turkey.

[thorny steeple]

We should ally with China and Russia

[dapper laurel]

Do it, you have the freedom to do it, but you could become puppets

[onyx hazel]

Where are you from?

[manic juniper]

I like Azerbaijani culture and people, it was the first non-European or transcontinental country I visited, but their government is straight up evil

[dapper laurel]

We are everywhere

[thorny steeple]

In Brazil, it happens very much because famous Italian food (ice cream and pizza) are very popular here. We also have several Japanese restaurants due to Brazil having received many Japanese in the last century

[manic juniper]

My mum was friend with a millionaire from there until she found out how they got rich ☠️

[thorny steeple]

WE can't because we are neutra

[thorny steeple]

Im from North Korea

And you

[dapper laurel]

If you ally yourself with Russia and China you could become a puppet, wake up

[thorny steeple]

Where? Brazil?

[manic juniper]

Azerbaijan

[thorny steeple]

But we would get back our brothers

[dapper laurel]

Did he trade cheap African slaves?

[thorny steeple]

Tgau, bien di.

[onyx hazel]

거짓말하다

[thorny steeple]

Co has ti num

[dapper laurel]

I'm not your brother

[thorny steeple]

No, you arent

You can stay there

You are GERMAN

[dapper laurel]

It's more complicated than that, actually, I'll explain better one day

[versed rain]

see u everyone

[thorny steeple]

Explain it to me

[manic juniper]

They launder their money in western countries especially UK, she has beauty saloons in London and a perfume company, her father is an oil-garch from Russia and her mother is the founder of said company

[onyx hazel]

So sehr es auch nicht sein mag, Deutsch lernen ist cool

[dapper laurel]

Since I don't have time because I have to study, I will use just one word, I am convinced that you will understand everything. Lebensraum

[manic juniper]

If you want to Google her the name is Jamila Askarova, she's married to an Italian guy that owns cargo airplanes and operates them in various countries including Italy

[thorny steeple]

Lebensziel

[thorny steeple]

Yes, i agree, German is better than Italian

[thorny steeple]

She looks like a model

[manic juniper]

G*rmanic vs LATIN

[onyx hazel]

In language terms, yes... (I prefer Italian pizza)

[manic juniper]

She is good looking indeed and so is her sister, it's also thanks to her beauty products

[thorny steeple]

Most people who like Germanic tribes in Brazil are dirty nazis

[manic juniper]

They work for sure

I have more respect for Germanic people when they didn't have their own countries

[thorny steeple]

Your neighbors in Scandinavia are considered Germanic, aren't they?

Yes

[manic juniper]

That's why I dislike them

But also what they did to the real Prussians and to the other Balts and Finns

[thorny steeple]

Because ethnically and linguistically they are Germanic but I don't see people referring to them as that often. It's more like Scandinavians, Nordic, Vikings

We actually are raterromance

[manic juniper]

Modern Germanic people>medieval bastards

[thorny steeple]

Im anti germany

But i like Switzerland

[manic juniper]

Very good

[thorny steeple]

Germany is our enemy

Also Liechtenstein and Luxemburg are goated countries

I love them

And Portugal of course siu

[thorny steeple]

I lean towards middle easterners, slavs, and turks when it comes to supporting someone who's not the same culture as me

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia_(region)
The best thing Germans ruined

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, eastern Europe is goated

+Switzerland and Austria and the french Empire and Ireland

Prussia is our archenemy

WE hate Prussians

I like Austria due to it being to cradle of classical music, nothing else

[manic juniper]

The false ones

The real Prussians were polite and cute

[thorny steeple]

The Prussian identity died after the establishment of the 3rd reich

[manic juniper]

The Prussian identity was based off genocide and destruction 🤢🤮

[thorny steeple]

Austria is cool

But Liechtenstein is better

We should unite with Liechtenstein or Switzerland

Los von Wien 🗣️🗣️

[feral river]

Serbia ?

What is Liechtenstein ?

[thorny steeple]

Liechtenstein isn't a real country

[dapper laurel]

Austria, I know, very random

[dapper laurel]

A spit of land between Austria and Switzerland

[feral river]

Ally with us and we will teach you guys how to deal with some people in their country

[thorny steeple]

A small autonomous territory in Europe with no army who claims to be a country

[feral river]

Some re-education is really necessary

[feral river]

Oh so why is no one gonna annex it

[thorny steeple]

I recall telling a teacher of mine about it, he's traveled to all western countries but didn't know about it

[thorny steeple]

Uyghurs?

China is really experienced on persecuring minorities and getting rid of the allegations

[manic juniper]

The moment we allow Chinese people in Schengen we will become a minority in our own countries

And China will be left empty of young people

[thorny steeple]

Liechtenstein is goated

[dapper laurel]

Always needed

[thorny steeple]

It's a monarchy

The duke has the ultimative power

The Chinese and the Japanese in Brazil live very peacefully with each other. Plus Chinese immigrants never harmed us in any sense

[dapper laurel]

It's already happening with immigration from the Middle East, don't worry 😉

[manic juniper]

Will they occupy Eastern Europe as well?

https://tenor.com/view/poland-gif-5597979

[thorny steeple]

The only places being occupied by Middle Easterns are the major centers, Stockholm, Paris and stuff, most cities in Western Europe don't live under their influence

[manic juniper]

There are many even in towns

[thorny steeple]

Long live Russia

[manic juniper]

The only town where I didn't find any immigrant had 2000 inhabitants, hardly worth living in

[dapper laurel]

It's a matter of time, we should stop mass immigration

[manic juniper]

I've met Somali immigrants in a Sámi village too

Lol

[feral river]

Not really but the people who violated the law of PRC like doing something disturbing social order and threatening national security

So we gonna reeducate them, in the camps

And let them know how to work to live better like produce cottons or cheap stuff

[dapper laurel]

I live in a small town, they are here too

[feral river]

You can reeducate mass immigration

[manic juniper]

Yes, it's a myth that they are only in major cities

Everywhere where there is a working economy has them

[dapper laurel]

They resist re-education

[feral river]

Bro I really like this because all the people got reeducated really benefit the majority of people

[manic juniper]

You need to live in a dead town or village to not see any

[feral river]

Doesn’t your nation have guns ?

[manic juniper]

For example the village where I live that has less than 500 people

[dapper laurel]

They follow benefits as well, but how to blame them at the same time?

[manic juniper]

It isn't completely wrong, my family used those benefits too since we were quite poor and it worked

[dapper laurel]

I have a compressed air gun, is that ok?

[thorny steeple]

The fatal point for Europe was when they tried to experiment Natality Rate control by allowing abortion and encouraging people to take contraceptives, now they are fucked up with low natality rates

[feral river]

It is ok if you can use it to make them work

[manic juniper]

My mum's family isn't native either, they are ethnically Finnish but most of them don't speak Finnish, they speak a Slavic language or Romanian

[feral river]

Make them work hard and harder

Produce Cheap stuff

With no paychecks

[manic juniper]

Making it illegal doesn't increase births, Poland for example. That's a myth too

[dapper laurel]

Romanian?

[manic juniper]

It just increases the chances of dying for a woman because she will seek less safe black market procedures

[manic juniper]

Yeah, since they lived in the USSR some of them moved to Moldova, my mum for example

[dapper laurel]

It's interesting how people moved for work in the Soviet Union

[manic juniper]

My mum got her European citizenship because Moldova had a joint program with Romanian where citizens from either country could redeem the citizenship of the other country just by applying and showing their own

[feral river]

Even USSR knows how to reeducate but not really better than our reeducate program

[manic juniper]

It was illegal to be unemployed, if you didn't have a job finding one was extremely easy, because they found it for you

My mum's entire family was moved first across Russia from Siberia, then it was moved to Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova

[dapper laurel]

Not bad in the end

[manic juniper]

To an extent, some of them died because they lived in central and eastern Ukraine

[dapper laurel]

So what are your origins, if I may ask?

[manic juniper]

We are all Finnish Kvens/Kvaani, the difference is that my mum's family was deported so they considered themselves Siberian Finns. It's a more artificial ethnicity since it'd be like forcing Dutch, German and Swiss German people to live in the same place, they'd eventually form a new common identity

[prisma cipher]

What is good at the end?

[manic juniper]

Siberian Finns were mostly Ingrian and Izhorian, many were Estonian too. Some Karelians too, and other Finnish subethnicities were extremely few (like my family's)

[feral river]

Can I identify myself as Chinese Finns

[manic juniper]

I guess that work was always available, and that they were moved to Moldova since it was convenient

[prisma cipher]

Moldova better than Belarus or Russia?

[dapper laurel]

What my brain deems good is good

[manic juniper]

Yes it's possible, I will grant you recognition in the UN

[feral river]

Not really they are pro-west also not developed

[manic juniper]

No but you could redeem Romanian (European Union) citizenship effortlessly

[feral river]

Well I’m good I just need that green card

[manic juniper]

I detailed it above, it was a joint program between Romania and Moldova

[prisma cipher]

Ok, try to remember don't care about your opinion next time

[dapper laurel]

Why did they deport them?

[feral river]

Can you guys annex Belarus

[dapper laurel]

My brain cares about my opinion

[manic juniper]

Happened countless times, minorities were often accused of nationalism and deported all at once. Or it was deemed a better outcome for them

[prisma cipher]

@feral river can you guys annex North Korea

[feral river]

Well we can’t

That was obvious

[prisma cipher]

Well

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kven_people

I can understand Kven because it's a variant of Finnish, when I was a kid I spoke Kven and my classmates thought I was weird or a hillbilly 😂

[feral river]

Annex North Korea doesn’t literally benefit us because it was our buffer state against west influence in Korean peninsula

And once we annexed North Korea we have to solve the problem for North Koreans

We don’t really care their lives all we want to do to just maintain the power of Kim’s family and establish ties with us to contain foreign influences

[prisma cipher]

Belarus is already in our sphere of influence. So there is no point in annexing Belarus.

[feral river]

Make sense like North Korea

North Korea is our ideal buffer state

[manic juniper]

Why would you annex North Korea, its the perfect buffer state

[feral river]

Yeah we won’t annex it they are doing a good job for us

Like I just said a perfect buffer state

Like Ukraine to Russia if Ukraine surrendered

[manic juniper]

Russia has Belarus

[feral river]

And they won’t change their policy because of the existence of South Korea and their totalitarian government

They have been stuck even they got a nice talk with trump about normalize their relationship

It was finally failed because of their nuclear program

[manic juniper]

NATO can't measure against the Belarusian mechanised forces, Russia is safe

[dapper laurel]

We cannot compete against Belarusian nuclear bombs

[manic juniper]

Tractor-delivered nuclear warheads

[feral river]

Humm today’s focus is no longer the nuclear weapons

But biological weapons, chemical weapons, cyber attacks

Those are the new era of the war

[dapper laurel]

Potato-based nuclear warheads

[prisma cipher]

Yea so funny what can deliver Moldova?

[manic juniper]

Bro kainulaiset almost sounds like my grandma's surname

[dapper laurel]

But let's not talk about the war, let's talk about our daily life, what did you do today?

[feral river]

Party with girls ?

Because I came back from Japan

[dapper laurel]

Hell yeah

[feral river]

Japan is just awesome

[manic juniper]

Moldova can weaponise eastern Latin wine, it has to be a pretty strong chemical weapon

[dapper laurel]

HELL YEAH

[prisma cipher]

Belarus is better than some small countries inside EU

[feral river]

Ah anyway that party is incredible

[manic juniper]

Like? Latvia?

[feral river]

A little bit adult like parties you know

So I don’t say that much

[dapper laurel]

For girls or for music or for food?

[feral river]

Food, alcohol, hot girls

And you know some crazy services

[manic juniper]

Belarus has some of the best nature in Europe for sure

[dapper laurel]

No, I don't know parties for adults, the most I do is go to the park with friends

[manic juniper]

Only Russia, Poland and Romania can compare

[dapper laurel]

Crazy services?

[feral river]

Hell yeah don’t ask that so deep you understand it

That’s the party for adults

[dapper laurel]

Aaaaah

Like

[manic juniper]

What's the most conservative variant of German

[dapper laurel]

How disgusting

[feral river]

Not really that’s pretty healthy and everyone knows it

[dapper laurel]

Wdym?

[manic juniper]

The dialect of German language with the most outdated words and the least influences

[dapper laurel]

I'm not understanding what you're referring to then

[manic juniper]

For example Romanian isn't conservative compared to Latin, Italian sounds much closer to it. The words are closer to it too

I was thinking of the German spoken in different countries, I also heard that Swiss German could also be considered a separate language altogether

[feral river]

Well in boring daily life most single people get bored and they hangout with friends or playing games or party with other people anyway

[manic juniper]

Only speaking about dialects here

[dapper laurel]

Idk, maybe old high german

[manic juniper]

I mean still existing

Unless it exists

[feral river]

So we all know that party is an adult party that almost no one gets shy or something because we are for it

And we can afford that because we are freaking middle class ?

[dapper laurel]

I know that the version of German most distant from Northern German is Tyrolean and Southern Tyrolean German.

Here is a completely different dialect

[manic juniper]

I see, which one of them is the most innovative?

[dapper laurel]

And many don't even understand us

[dapper laurel]

So it's that party where you get drunk and do crazy things for just one night?

[manic juniper]

I was trying to find similarities with Finnish, the extranational varieties are more archaic but they have more loanwords

[dapper laurel]

I don't think I'm the right person for this then😅

My cat is staring at me

[manic juniper]

I talked to a Rusyn yesterday, it's a minority related to Ukrainians

They are the closest people to Ukrainians, but they are much less numerous

[thorny steeple]

Südtirolerisch 💪💪

[feral river]

Well just for an hour I can’t do that so long

An hour is all enough to me

I admit I’m not so good at this with not much experience

[thorny steeple]

Dont get drunk!!!

Alcohol is haram

[desert nebula]

I have to admit I'm actually impressed by your knowledge about different ethnicities(not sure if it's the correct term)

[manic juniper]

Thanks, in that case it's justified since I belong to that group and I'm supposed to know

[desert nebula]

You're Finish?

Still you know a lot

[manic juniper]

Yes, my families in particular belong to different minority groups

My father's family is Kvääni Finnish and my mum's is Siberian Finnish

[desert nebula]

I don't know about those groups but it's beautiful they preserved their identity till today

[manic juniper]

Yeah, Siberian Finns aren't a natural ethnicity, they were deportees from different ethnicities that formed a new one

[versed rain]

i heard that finnish people have turkic dna?

[manic juniper]

My mum's family too was Kvääni but they lost their previous identity

[versed rain]

uralic that i mean

[manic juniper]

It's kind of a myth, Baltic Finns (like Estonians and us) are closest to other Baltic Finns from Russia like Karelians, Ingrians, Izhorians, we are also genetically and (partially ) culturally related to Baltic people (Lithuanians and Latvians) and Scandinavians, after those our closest relatives are northern Russians and eastern Finnic people that also live in Russia (Komi, Mari, Permyaks, Udmurts and more)

Komi, Permyaks and Udmurts are very slightly related to Central Asians but not all of them, and they are diverse people in origin

[desert nebula]

From Russia right? You resemble them somehow.
But it's great they still kept their origin in my country though we're really mixed but rarely someone knows to which ethnicity they belong only small minorities

[versed rain]

if we identify finnish people as turkic it become false but we can say there was same dna but they are specialized and classified in different fields-territories

[manic juniper]

If you include all Uralic people, there are the ex nomadic groups like Nganasan and Nenets that are very different from the other Uralic people, kinda like Spaniards and Rajasthani in India to give you an example. Those nomads mixed with Central Asians a lot, and they only moved to northern Russia in the last centuries

[versed rain]

ok

[manic juniper]

My mum's family mixed with other Finns for the most part since they lived together in the same villages, the last two generations don't speak a Finnic language except for my mum

It's why I still look similar to them, most people always assumed I was Finnish while growing up (and I consider myself as such too), some thought I was a hillbilly because of how I used to talk when I was younger and I was more exposed to my father's dialect

Nowadays I still make the mistake of using F instead of V on certain words, since the Kvääni words are more archaic and use F

[manic juniper]

It's very confusing, there are the Komi-Yazhva that are a mix of Komi-Zyrians (eastern Finns) and Nenets. So their DNA is eastern European and Turkic

If you dig deep into the etymology of Nenet and eastern Finnish loanwords you'll find evidence of Indo-Iranian words, probably because they used to lived much more South and closer to Iran and the Caucasus long ago but we are talking about thousands of years here

[sage dock]

whats cooking

[desert nebula]

I used to link any non-arab blonde person with being Russian 😭idk why

[manic juniper]

Lol blonde hair are Siberian originally, they are just a lot more prevalent in eastern and northwestern Europe nowadays but it's just sexual selection

[desert nebula]

What languages do you speak? Which one you consider your mother tongue

[manic juniper]

As in, blonde people were more liked and they increased in numbers

[versed rain]

because there was no blonde people in Syria. U can normally think they are northern people and i think u were know just russians as blonde people. But there are also brunette ones in Russians.

[desert nebula]

Idk where those genetics come from but I think bc I only saw Russians when I was a child that's why

[versed rain]

because they were different.

[versed rain]

i dont find ur laught sincerely.

[desert nebula]

You sure never went to Syria 😂😂😂my grandma(mother's side) they were all blonde with green eyes but my aunts inherited my grandpa's eyes still some of my cousins are blonde

Stop making assumptions about us we're of all colors

[versed rain]

because usually you are trying to provoke me.

[manic juniper]

Sorry I was receiving guests

[versed rain]

i see all of syrians in istanbul dont worry

[desert nebula]

I don't need to I know my poeple and my country more than you does so don't invent things from yourself

[versed rain]

np

[desert nebula]

Oh you talked to syrians how kind of you

[versed rain]

i dont invent anything.I say facts.

I have never seen a syrian which is blonde for 13 years. so after civillian war.

[manic juniper]

Finnish is my native, I learned Swedish too because I lived in a language with many Swedish speakers and it's the second national language of Finland. I learned Italian and a bit of Sicilian.
I know some Ukrainian, Russian and Romanian because my mum's family uses those (but I can't speak those languages properly, I was able to speak Romanian but I rarely use it nowadays).

So realistically it's just: Finnish, Swedish, Italian, English

[versed rain]

i know just turkish and intermediate English :(((((

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't say I can speak the others that well, I have a good vocabulary with Romanian but I'm clumsy at it nowadays. I don't think you could consider the other languages

[manic juniper]

I did, I've also met a very blonde Turkish girl, more blonde than the average here

[manic juniper]

Maybe, blonde hair are likely to be useless for survival unlike darker or lighter skin

[versed rain]

Who was " i did " for, Syrian or Turkish

[manic juniper]

Both : D

[versed rain]

I've never seen Syrians, but Turks have about 40 percent blondes.

[manic juniper]

Turks look very similar to Levantine Arabs, in fact I can't say Levantine Arabs look like other Arabs that much, even their other Arab neighbours in the East and South

There are some of their people that look quite Arab, but also many that do not

[versed rain]

Fifty percent of them are auburn and the rest of them have black hair.

[versed rain]

It is 70 percent accurate.

[manic juniper]

I guess that many Turks overlap in appearance with those Arabs that look quite different

[versed rain]

Frankly, 30 percent are either extremely European or very few of them look like an arab.

[manic juniper]

I've never seen one that looks like a Gulf Arab

[thorny steeple]

10-15% of the Turkish population have the R1B haplogroup, she might live among them

[versed rain]

Because the majority of those who look different marry Turks. There are many Turks in the Middle East, especially in Iran.

[manic juniper]

But blonde hair aren't related to haplogroups, she didn't look very typically European

[versed rain]

Not from the Gulf, but at most from Iraq and Iranians.

[manic juniper]

She looked more like a southeastern European or someone from around the Black Sea in general

[versed rain]

Very few minorities

[manic juniper]

Lebanon too

[versed rain]

who?

[manic juniper]

I've never seen an Iranian that looks Arab either, they look interesting

[manic juniper]

The blonde Turkish girl

[thorny steeple]

Blonde hairs are more of a autossomal characteristic, yet R1B, R1B plus J are more likely to have them

[versed rain]

u might be right.

[manic juniper]

We have the highest amount of those in the world and we are N1

[desert nebula]

Ok and I've never seen a blond turk does that mean there's none

[versed rain]

As I said, there are a lot of Turks among them. becayse of the majority of Turks, they do not look like Arabs.

[desert nebula]

If you watched any Syrian drama you'll realize

[versed rain]

60 percent of Syrians in turkey

I dont talk about americans right now. i talk about syrians whose are in turkey over 13 years.

[desert nebula]

Nice^^ they're all beautiful languages

[versed rain]

i see all of them.

nothing changes between them.

[manic juniper]

Yes they are fine, I like Swedish the least amongst them

[thorny steeple]

It's N3, isn't it?
By "us" you mean the Finnish or other you also include Estonia?
Finland's population is too little compared to that of Western countries, it might not the best country to get such data

[versed rain]

they are generally brunette or very minority of them are such as turkish

[manic juniper]

N1c in Finland, idk about Estonians and Balts but they have a lot of N1 as well

[desert nebula]

He'll cry when he realize the truth:/ let alone when he realize that many of them are of Syrian origin especially in the south (İskenderun (Hatay)Gaziantep....)

[versed rain]

but naturally they can have blonde people

i dont say u cannot have but generally and so far is like what i said.

[manic juniper]

Mostly because those ethnicities, both Arabs and Turks, are a more recent "success story" and they identified each other with language and culture rather than origins. That's why you could put Levantine Arabs, many Greeks and many Turks in a group of the same origins but culturally they are only marginally similar

[desert nebula]

I didn't know you met all syrians in Türkiye whatever I also never met a blonde turk but I won't generalize like you

Idk what's so great to be related to Europe.

[manic juniper]

Most ethnicities are like that anyway, the language and culture always mattered more. Take a look at Hungary, their language is related to ours, yet they look nothing like us and aren't very related

[versed rain]

yeah, most possible idea that i have seen.

[desert nebula]

We have our own genes not related to Europe simply levantine(Aramaic/Syriac Arab Iranian ....)

European yusuf

[manic juniper]

The ancestors of modern Turks were Greeks and Anatolian natives, those of Levantine Arabs were the Canaanites

[versed rain]

I don't care if I'm European or not. I dont want to be generalised as arabs because of ur people everyone thinks turks are arab

[manic juniper]

The Canaanites were a bunch of very different people, from Israelites to Phoenicians (the same Phoenicians that established an empire and fought Rome)

The ancestors of Turks were very different too, Greek-related people, Caucasians, Iranic people

[desert nebula]

Maybe it's a hard language for me but I love the poeple bc my aunt loves them. She has friendly neighbors in Sweden

[versed rain]

ataturk was turk yes. i think u know ottomans assimilation system

[manic juniper]

I don't know why I don't like it that much 😭 but it's much better than Norwegian and Danish to me, Danish sounds bad

[versed rain]

Ataturk's family has been moved because of assimilate greek people in greecw

ataturk were not a greek.

[manic juniper]

Some of them are, Levantines have a lot in common with Greeks, Turks are like the gene bridge between them

I'm sure that Greek Cypriots are even more similar to Turks and Levantine Arabs

[versed rain]

i think the name of system was spolia.

[desert nebula]

None of us is pure.....I mean Syrian itself isn't an Arabic word one of the theories it comes from the Assyrian empire so I feel it was wrong to call ourselves Syrian bc only the northeast part was under the Assyrian empire(with iraq) but Damascus the centre was Aram kingdom

[desert nebula]

Arabs aren't racists so you're not dw

[versed rain]

i am not european, i born in Anatolia, i dont try being european if we are, we are or not

[manic juniper]

Well people often adopt names for a reason or another, you are called Syrians out of habit I guess... The Romans themselves called it Syria Palestine, so many people living there called themselves Syrians in Latin or Greek already

[desert nebula]

Phoenicians are Canaanite. Idk if this is true but they say Canaanites are Arabs :/

[manic juniper]

Over time they would change languages but they would maintain some words, place names often stay even if the languages change multiple times. It's why historians can guess which ethnicities lived in a place just by using river names, river names change very little over time

[manic juniper]

They are not, Arabs are Semites like the Canaanites but the Canaanites themselves are distinct. Idk if Samaritans are considered Canaanites (I guess so? Jews are related and they are Canaanites), if they were there would be Jews and Samaritans left since most disappeared

[versed rain]

@desert nebula i think u feel bad if we identify as european because turk worked too much for gaining territory but last years arabs just divide in their geography.

[manic juniper]

Most Canaanites were assimilated by the Israelites since they were the strongest tribe after the Phoenicians

[desert nebula]

The Greeks ruled in that region for a long time. So maybe we were mixed. Mediterranean countries are close somehow

[desert nebula]

Ok then check your messages again you keep mentioning Europe all the time as if only Europeans and Turks are blonds

[versed rain]

btw Turks origin are central asia but we have central aisa dna little any more after come to anatolia.

[manic juniper]

Ok apparently Samaritans speak Hebrew or Arabic, although they are different people

[sage dock]

Omg not this guy again 😆

Ayo @sonic terrace come here akhi

[manic juniper]

I'm not very knowledgeable about the Middle East but I think only the first two are left

[desert nebula]

We were given different names but idk why this one stayed with us. In Arabic pronounciation we're called suriyeen but Syrian are a Christian group not related to Arabs in Syria:/

[manic juniper]

Three* not two

[manic juniper]

Assyrians you mean?

[versed rain]

because i dont want to talk about eastern world. Everything okey? u cannot choose my topics. Turks have the most connection with arabs because of islam.

[desert nebula]

True that Russian guy who sends the maps in everyone I see different names😭😭but till today almost all cities in syria kept their ancient names like Damascus Halab ...we just change the way they're pronounced

[manic juniper]

The Assyrians maintained the older name, Syrians probably adopted the Roman one... It's similar to how Copts are named after the Greek word for "Egyptian" since they also spoke a language different than Arabic for a long time. Coptic only became extinct recently

[versed rain]

If the Turks had met the Christians before the Muslims, they would probably have become Christians.

[desert nebula]

Bc I saw researches that levantine poeple(Lebanon, Syria, Palestine) are related to Canaanites

We and the Jews are cousins so there's similarities ofc

[versed rain]

Hebrews*******

[manic juniper]

It's why you have places such as Anatolia, Palestine (from the much older and Greek Philistine, probably from an even older similar word), "Asia" (which used to be just Anatolia), Syria from Assyria, Jordan and Lebanon are in Jewish oral tradition and the Bible, and countless others

[desert nebula]

Identity as you like idc for me I never want to be called a European and see how your country gained its lands by all the agreements they signed(sevre Lausanne...)

Yeah we're divided and screw our leaders I'm not proud of that

[manic juniper]

By blood yes, most of them are literally the same people only they changed language and culture

[desert nebula]

Then are u related to Mongols 🙁

[ashen turret]

Hii guys

[manic juniper]

The Tunisians of today descended from the Phoenicians and the Roman citizens of North Africa, the Levantine Arabs are descendants of those ancient, mostly extinct people

[versed rain]

sevre is not current

[desert nebula]

Oh ugarit is a city in Syria they found the ugraitic alphabet one of the oldest

[manic juniper]

There is a rather sinister example of how place and ethnic names are kept even if the local culture went extinct

Do you know Prussia?

[versed rain]

If you troll any more, I'll have to complain.

u know the answer

[desert nebula]

Assyrians are ashur in Arabic and Syrian in Arabic is a Christian group😭I think it's called Syriac in English. I'll check later bc it's confusing

[manic juniper]

Ahhh Syriac, yes I know it

[versed rain]

you just want to cause inconvenience. I, on the other hand, share the facts and my observations. I'm not attacking.

[manic juniper]

Syriacs are a subgroup of Assyrian

There are also Chaldeans and Arameans

[desert nebula]

Before Islam there was common ancestors on both lands idk if you know this but check old maps and see how Syria looked it wasn't this small area

[versed rain]

i know.

[desert nebula]

I don't think Coptic is extinct in Egypt but reduced

[manic juniper]

It's extinct, there were attempts at locating native speakers but they failed so far. The language exists as liturgical language (kinda like no one is a native speaker of Quranic Arabic) but no one is native

[desert nebula]

Nah bc they believed I tengrism(not sure how it's written) they believed in one God of the sky so probably they won't become Christians one of the reasons they entered Islam bc they found similarities

[versed rain]

u feel i am attacking u. i dont have problem with syrians especially

[manic juniper]

Maybe there are Coptic speakers but they must be so few they failed to locate them until now

[versed rain]

There is nothing that prevents them from becoming Christians.

[manic juniper]

Both Christians and Muslims used different strategies to convert people of other religions to theirs

Turks would've been just as likely to be Christians, you can read about how Ireland was made Christian

Turks would've been made Christians even more easily compared to Irish people

[desert nebula]

Right mount Lebanon and Syria were mentioned in the Bible but I don't think it referred to the current countries maybe a specific area in them

[desert nebula]

We're so close but the same time can be easily differentiated when you go to another country idk how

[manic juniper]

The countries took their name from regions or other places, Jordan from the river, Anatolia was considered a region of Asia (when the true size of Asia wasn't known to Greeks), Assyria was a region, a city and a country, Palestine was a region named after the natives

[desert nebula]

Yeah but you don't like the answer that we're genetically related. What do you want me to say

[manic juniper]

Lebanon idr but it also was a name back then

[versed rain]

we are not.

[desert nebula]

When I was in Egypt mainly some Christians would say they're Coptic and not Arabs but they were a few

[versed rain]

i am going out, see u

[manic juniper]

If you are interested in how people are more or less peacefully converted to Christianity or Islam you can read about Ireland and South East Asia

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/atam-ya-atam-geldi-atam-atam-adam-ya-adam-geldi-adam-gif-20578552

[manic juniper]

They would incorporate and tolerate many elements of the local culture and religions for a long time and slowly introduce elements of theirs

[desert nebula]

Bc I remember first time we talked. I don't forget you hate Arabs and syrians specifically

[manic juniper]

Over time the old elements would be phased out until the natives are fully Muslims or Christians

[versed rain]

i didnt say it

u just imagine.

[manic juniper]

Technically they are not, their language is yes but that was a very recent change, it's kinda like Irish people that definitely aren't English but most speak English

[versed rain]

i said i dont like most of syrian refuuges because of crimes in Turkey. I said most of turkish people dont like arab

[desert nebula]

Yeah nothing but still they chose Islam. Before the 7th century Syria was 80% Christians but you didn't convert
As I said bc Islam was similar to tengrism from their point of view ig

[versed rain]

i didnt say any bad thing

[manic juniper]

In the case of Tengrism, Turks were converted thanks to the element in common with Islam (one deity), they phased out the other elements over time

[versed rain]

No, they fought together against China. Because of this, they became close to the Muslims.

[manic juniper]

Mongolians were Tengrists too, they became Buddhist. The Buddhists used the philosophical aspects of Tengrism to convert them to Buddhism rather than the monotheistic aspect

[desert nebula]

I can bring that message but since you changed your mind greaaaat. We love Turks

[manic juniper]

As you can see two very different religions (Buddhism and Islam) had the same success in converting people of the same religion

[versed rain]

i didnt change anything

[versed rain]

u just show ur nation as agressive who has against idea to ourself

[desert nebula]

@manic juniper 😭I have take my lil sister to the library now. I liked this talk thanks when I'm back I hope we can continue

@versed rain and you don't let your media brainwash you

[manic juniper]

Have a good day : D

[desert nebula]

My media also shows your crimes against us .....but I don't hate all

Turks

[versed rain]

dont attack me. this is the last attention before complaining.

[desert nebula]

[versed rain]

i didnt say any bad idea.

I explained myself a lot before. I am not definetly a racist.

[desert nebula]

I hope

[versed rain]

But u attack me a lot

[manic juniper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_in_Mongolia

[versed rain]

i just explained crime increase after syrian refuuge stream.

And i said i dont like general of syrian refuuge because of this.

They can come to our country with visa

[desert nebula]

I'm sorry if you felt that but you started. You talked bad about my people

[desert nebula]

I said being proofs and not from umit Özdağ and those dumb racists

[desert nebula]

It's not illegal

[versed rain]

Your refugees in Turkey think that just because you are a refugee, you can go to any country and disturb the local people.

u is meaning of ur refuuge people

not meaning of u

this is last attention to u. I will not say anything about it.

Dont provoke me.

[thorny steeple]

I'll do a practical exam to get my drivers license within one hour

May God be with you

[versed rain]

good luck

[thorny steeple]

He will

Im sure He will

[vestal nacelle]

.

[desert nebula]

They're simply living like the rest

[desert nebula]

Bro you were the one who replied to me😅you're always here crying about us but I'm ignoring u. I was talking to isfrun but you couldn't stop yourself from interfering with your racist comments

[unique light]

Hi lads

What's the topic?

[cinder quartz]

As always

Politics ig

[thorny steeple]

Approved ✅️

[lucid quiver]

Does anyone want to discuss a serious topic?

[vapid hare]

I despise [topic A]!!

[lucid quiver]

Sure, where is topic A

[vapid hare]

topic A is @lucid quiver

[lucid quiver]

Come again please?

[vapid hare]

today, class, we will be discussing about the person named Nadoma

[lucid quiver]

Are you kidding me?

Now I understand

[surreal egret]

Hi

[surreal egret]

Who is he?

[vapid hare]

he is an ISIS terrorist who's still at large. Interpol has yet to catch this guy

[surreal egret]

🤮 yuck

[vapid hare]

@lucid quiver

[surreal egret]

The bad things in his personality

[vapid hare]

Indeed his personality is what you would expect from an ISIS fighter

[surreal egret]

Nothing bro l will off

That is all for me

[vapid hare]

mhmm

[thorny steeple]

May God help you and find you a better living condition

[desert nebula]

Thx bro I'm living well thanks to God I hope the best for you^^
May Allah guide us all.

[muted patio]

Then, go and kill yourself,that

i speak like a cyber-leftist,for God's sake

[thorny steeple]

✝️🤝☪️

[agile rose]

hi how are you?

[zealous sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/snicker_doodle7-chips-man-eating-chips-dude-eating-chips-gif-22845702

[muted patio]

?

[thorny steeple]

You switch your politics views everytime you blink

[royal hatch]

Is it a superpower ?

[slim fjord]

No gif perms

https://tenor.com/view/snicker_doodle7-chips-man-eating-chips-dude-eating-chips-gif-22845702

[vapid hare]

its a superpower only the very best of trolls can have

to change your political belief depending on whom they're trolling

[lavish finch]

The art of the troll

[feral river]

because I'm a freaking genius that I know how every political view should be, and how could they explain the world.

that's why I choose capitalism-nationalism which is best for maximum my interest.

[prisma plume]

non binary people are just gay

[mystic kindle]

yo

whats up'

how r uh

[pastel epoch]

[near rivet]

Non binary is someone who identifies themselves neither as a man nor a woman

[thorny steeple]

??def pfp

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[thorny steeple]

In my opinion, Non-binary is a kind of mental disability

How do you think about that?

?

I just wonder why you don't think like that

I'm absolutely not

All human is a man or a woman

How to define that?

Gay is a man

Okay

[cinder quartz]

congratulations on being unbanned

[versed rain]

thank u very much

[versed rain]

admins were barely convinced because of the Gaza video. I said if I ever do it again, block me forever.

[versed rain]

Normally they didnt approve me

[cinder quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084632860335558777/1221882566785892434/ezgif.com-added-text2.gif

[versed rain]

I begged a lot.

[cinder quartz]

happens

[versed rain]

Have mercy, sir.

[cinder quartz]

[desert void]

What is it

Yummy i love pizza

[versed rain]

https://x.com/Israel_katz/status/1800154384418152741?t=NAZFyQUq-zBzjXkuq87_WQ&s=19
What do u think about that?

ישראל כ”ץ Israel Katz (@Israel_katz) on X

Los españoles han castigado a la coalición de @sanchezcastejon y @Yolanda_Diaz_ con una contundente derrota en las elecciones.

Resulta que apoyar a los asesinos y violadores de Hamás no es rentable electoralmente.

@NunezFeijoo @Santi_ABASCAL

Twitter · Jun 10, 2024, 1:13 PM

@manic juniper For example, does Turkey's support for Palestine undermine its alliance with NATO?

Or is it just seen as Spain does?

[prisma plume]

heyy

[versed rain]

For example, in Europe, do people think turkey is really in the western alliance?

Is it just seen as a fictitious member?

For example, although if Spain gets everything from Russia, in my opinion, it is a definite NATO country.

What about turkey?

turkish jesus

sjsjsj isfrun knows him

sjsj no, he is a radio officer

haha

[prisma plume]

hehe

[thorny steeple]

Ireland does, no one seems to care

[manic juniper]

No, I don't think so

Israel and Palestine only concern USA, not really NATO as a whole

[unique light]

The government stands with Palestine

The Irish people stand with Palestine too

Usually, they either don't care about the conflict at all or stand with Palestine (mostly without knowing much about it)

[wicked sphinx]

free palestine

[manic juniper]

It's a plane

[unique light]

Fair play to ye lad

[manic juniper]

Ireland isn't in NATO

[unique light]

The Army sucks here, I once talked to some of their soldiers about how to become an Air Corps pilot in the Irish army

They ain't got a single fighter jet lmao

At least they let me try on their uniform

[manic juniper]

In their base or as a whole? Like no jets in the entire army

[unique light]

No jets in the entire country

If we're talking about fighter jets

Not a single tank as well

[manic juniper]

well about tanks it makes a little more sense since you must be able to deliver those

Operating a tank in Ireland doesn't seem very useful at the moment

[unique light]

I always see these flying around my city

And these

Could be

[unique light]

And they have the Ivory Coast flag on their back instead of the Irish one 😅

[manic juniper]

[unique light]

Is this an APC?

[manic juniper]

Yes, both are

Patria AMV and Patria Pasi

[unique light]

I like this helicopter

It's not used anymore though

[desert nebula]

There was a mention here

[lime tiger]

Does anyone have motivational quote ?

[versed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-dark-darkquotes-deepquotes-gif-14621617

[feral river]

oh really aren’t they are part of American empires influences and stand with Israel ?

I still see there is some European states doesn’t counter the influence which threats their national security and interests

What the heck is their agency of propaganda’s doing

Even American’s department of intelligence and propaganda strongly influenced their people to fit the national interests

Some Europeans who are just like not living under a state.

[thorny steeple]

I support Israel

[near rivet]

So?

[feral river]

The point is what they can have for support Palestine for European states ? I can understand some Islamic organizations supports it, some Muslim states supports it, but what’s the problem with this sh*t to Europeans ?

For votes ? Sell their national interest for votes is that democracy?

[whole beacon]

U clearly didn't read UN international laws

[feral river]

Tell me what is UN and who controls it

[whole beacon]

U say islamic !
As for the all arab sovereign states are extremists ?
Like

[feral river]

No I didn’t say that

[thorny steeple]

I ilke Israel

[whole beacon]

Well laws its ink on paper but u know the whole thing

[feral river]

I say Islamic is literally Islamic nothing wrong with extremism

[feral river]

All I know about UN is a tool for superpowers expanding their influences and control and managing some regional issues.

[thorny steeple]

??def Islamic

[cursive bobcat]

Word: Islamic

Definition (adjective): of or relating to or supporting Islamism

Definition requested by null021303_21256

[feral river]

And the controller is: UK, France, Russia, China, USA

That’s all about it, and the law you said I don’t understand

[thorny steeple]

Except France

[feral river]

Well they are in the security council and they have veto power

They are literally superior

[feral river]

Law or rule without enforcement is toilet paper

And no one give a sh*t to it

[thorny steeple]

God isn't real

[fallen summit]

UwU

[lucid quiver]

Are you mad or something like this?

[manic juniper]

Luckily

[thorny steeple]

I meant they are part of the EU and western, yet nobody seems to care about their support to Palestine

hmmm

[thorny steeple]

He is

[thorny steeple]

Prove it

[thorny steeple]

Within 30 minutes I'll get my lunch break and will debate

Hello chat

[thorny steeple]

i support Palestine btw

[thorny steeple]

So do I, but I'm not a diehard Palestine supporter tho. I support a territory division that benefits both sides

[thorny steeple]

I think the whole place belong to Palestine

U should read the history

They are even the original inhabitants of the region

When you look at the population of Israel, you will find that they come from Russia, Poland, Ukraine, and North Africa

And Usa Ofc

Being indigenous to a territory doesn't mean it necessarily belongs only to you, territorial history undergoes several changes throughout time

[thorny steeple]

But u have the right to defend your land and your origin

[thorny steeple]

Hmm they were actually Ashkenazi Jews that migrated to these places mainly because of the persecution they suffered in Middle East. Take for instance the term Askhenazi, which originated in a Turkish territory, the Jews from there weren't originated in that place

[thorny steeple]

What about the first two temples

Jews aren't European originally

[thorny steeple]

Then you have the right to fire them

cuz it's ur country

[fossil osprey]

Imagine you’re at home and someone comess to u asking for a place to sleep and you treat him with kindness and later he pushes you out of your home and claims to be the owner!

[thorny steeple]

The land belongs to your ancestors

[thorny steeple]

i was about to say it

[thorny steeple]

This is a little bit fascist

[manic juniper]

Everyone can trace their ancestors back to East and Central Africa, imagine going back there and everyone in the world would claim that

Or tons of Europeans and Asians claiming each other's lands because they have Neanderthal ancestors

[thorny steeple]

It's because of people like you that I don't stricly support Palestine

[thorny steeple]

Cuz am saying the truth?

or what

[thorny steeple]

The whole European population is made up by Indo-Europeans who lived originally in Asia

Not the entire territory but most of it

[manic juniper]

Didn't they live on the border in Caucasus

[thorny steeple]

also free Ukraine

The world has to wake up

Fr

[manic juniper]

And Western Sahara

[thorny steeple]

ik about this one

Yeah Free Western sahara

[manic juniper]

A lot of those are in Europe, in Russia

[thorny steeple]

I want to see the world coexist in peace

[fossil osprey]

You're support will not free them so don't act like Self-important

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately mammals prefer destruction over peaceful coexistence like birds do

[manic juniper]

Your complaints will not stop people from supporting

[thorny steeple]

I loved the term mammals

[thorny steeple]

Mainly from Siberia, which wasn't Russian until the establishment of the Tsardom

Other mammals coexist more peacefully than our descendants

[manic juniper]

I'm looking at the map, half of those under "Indo-European" are not in Siberia

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper wait are u finnish?

[manic juniper]

Yes, are you?

Suomi mainittu

[thorny steeple]

No am Polish

but i've been in Helsinki

It was an amazing experience

[manic juniper]

I like Poland, it's one of the countries I'd like to visit the most

[manic juniper]

Oh why is that

[thorny steeple]

Tourism only. My brother offered me this Lmao

I hope to go there again

[manic juniper]

Come to Inari next time

Maybe take the train from Helsinki to Rovaniemi and go to Inari

[thorny steeple]

I rly hope that

and eat "Lihäpyörykoita" again

Hi!

[thorny steeple]

Parts of Siberia and and western Russia, also parts of Central Asia

And Eastern Europe

[manic juniper]

It looks like it's just the eastern part of European Russia and Kazakhstan, no Siberia

Siberia is only Russian and it's more North

[manic juniper]

Have you tried Karelian pastries?

[thorny steeple]

Some of them are Siberian

I know Reddit isn't the most reliable source, you can find it on other sources too

[manic juniper]

I guess the map is incomplete

The Aral Sea is nowhere near Siberia

[thorny steeple]

ahhh No

But excited about it

God loves what he made

First of all, we gotta set the rules

God made LGBTQ+

God loves LGBTQ+

[feral river]

not really I don't like that much

but I respect it

[thorny steeple]

but God likes that

1.)No cussing or anything like that
2.)No threatening

[feral river]

I'm the god

[thorny steeple]

Let's start this

[thorny steeple]

Oh my God

[feral river]

yeah your God, me

[thorny steeple]

Nah, God didn't, we made

There are only 3 genders that are natural

Rest are made by humans

God made eveything

Nope

[feral river]

yeah I made everything

I agree with that statement

[thorny steeple]

God didn't make everything?

God made humans, and after that all of this is made by us(humans)

[thorny steeple]

He made the nature, earth, space etc, he made only 3 genders

God made humans and all concepts in this world

[feral river]

I forgot if I made humans or not but who the heck cares

[thorny steeple]

God made all of this world

[thorny steeple]

Nah, that is where you're wrong. We don't know much about the past but the present concepts are derived from recent centuries

God loves what he made

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

then God made LGBTQ+

[thorny steeple]

That's why he made 3 genders, not something like 70 genders

[thorny steeple]

who made them?

[thorny steeple]

Nope, that all are made by humans

God made humans

[thorny steeple]

WTF

[thorny steeple]

Us

Lemme put it this way

So you are saying God doesn't love LGBTQ+

Right?

[feral river]

Well yeah I don’t love it

I’m the freaking god

[thorny steeple]

God loves everything

even LGBTQ+

[feral river]

Well who the heck tells you about that

[thorny steeple]

If we put 50 men 50 women on an island and 100 LGBTQ members on a deserted island. After 50 years, you'll see the island with men and women thriving whereas the island with LGBTQ members is all dead.

[thorny steeple]

his ass

[feral river]

I’m not a badass loves everything

[thorny steeple]

Why doesn't God love everything?

[feral river]

So what

[thorny steeple]

There is logic in that concept. 2 people of the same gender can't mate. The species will not thrive and adapt and die. Get that to your mind.

[thorny steeple]

No.

God love all humans and he cares everything

[feral river]

That is normal and you will find out that we all pointless in a very long-term after sun is dead all lives being will be destroyed instantly

[thorny steeple]

It was a mere example to explain him

[thorny steeple]

6 billion years remaining ig?

[feral river]

probably ? idk that much but sun will dead

[thorny steeple]

So you mean that God doesn't make everything

[thorny steeple]

idk, I read that

[thorny steeple]

Bro, can't you read 😭 ?

[feral river]

sun will dead and turns to a white drawf

[thorny steeple]

You said God isn't omnipotence

We are talking scientifically and philosophically, there in no point in mating people of 2 genders. It's all some shitty and crappy idea of the west.

[feral river]

and it won't generate enough energy anymore so you can't survive without it also it may just swallow the earth during the process of becoming a red giant

[thorny steeple]

Yup

[thorny steeple]

When? Point out from the para I wrote

[thorny steeple]

Because God didn't make everything

[feral river]

at that time even earth still exist, everything will evaporates out the temperature is too high that all the live being will dead.

[thorny steeple]

There's a theory that Mars can be our second home lmao i don't think so

[feral river]

well still a hope anyway

we all want to survive isn't it

if there is a possible way why don't we do that

[thorny steeple]

Yes, god didn't make everything doesn't mean he's not omnipotent. I never wrote that.

[feral river]

that's why we still exist because we want to be exist.

[thorny steeple]

Lmao, hope's dead for the people supporting LGBTQ

[thorny steeple]

Are you Muslim?

[feral river]

all of the biology which doesn't want to be exist are all dead already.

that's called natural selection

[thorny steeple]

We need to reproduce in order to live

[thorny steeple]

Nope

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple

What do you believe in?

Jesus?

I don't believe in any god.

Me too

So God isn't real

[feral river]

well I believe in God, which is me

[thorny steeple]

I believe that there is some power which we can't see made us

[thorny steeple]

Controversial topic, can have different views

[feral river]

that was marked on your DNA.

that's why you feel satisfied in sex

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple Do you now believe that according to science and philosophy, LGBTQ is not a nature-made thing?

I don't like LGBTQ+

[thorny steeple]

Yes, this memory has been ongoing since 300,000 years ago

We adapt and we survive

That's why we sit at the top of the food chain

[shy summit]

Its natural

Period.

[feral river]

humm well we are superior, the most powerful living creature on earth.

[thorny steeple]

Damn, I changed your ideology

[feral river]

we dominate the earth, we establish regimes, we choose the fate of the earth

we are superior

[thorny steeple]

Sir, I'm tired now and not ready for round 2. I'll debate this with you tomorrow. Please ping me whenever you're free.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[shy summit]

Okay? There’s nothing to debate tho. It happens in nature so its natural LMFAO

[thorny steeple]

Nope, it's not

[thorny steeple]

Is it hard to learn to fly them?

[shy summit]

You can have your own opinions just not your own facts sweetheart

[feral river]

wait are you from asia ?

[thorny steeple]

Like, is it much harder than driving or riding a motorcycle

[feral river]

here is almost 0 AM

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[shy summit]

You mean midnight?

[thorny steeple]

I'm talking about facts only sir.

[feral river]

yeah here is literally

in China

[shy summit]

Aaaaah 24hour time

[thorny steeple]

I'm 3 hours behind you

[feral river]

well anyway I just came back from Japan and my vacation is over 😭

[shy summit]

Yea it’s factually natural. Not just in humans too.

[thorny steeple]

I'm currently on a vacation in India. It's 9 p.m. here.

[feral river]

oh cool I never been India before what's going on there

[thorny steeple]

Nah, human bodies aren't made to mate with the same gender.

[thorny steeple]

Raining like hell since evening in Delhi

[feral river]

anyway enjoy your vacation 🙂

MY VACATION IS FREAKING DONE

I NEED ANOTHER VACATION F

[thorny steeple]

It's over tomorrow 😭

[versed rain]

so u think turkey is no different from Spain in foreign relations and "Israeli Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz told Erdogan began to shift to the side of Iran" but it doesnt mean for u. Right?

[shy summit]

*Same sex. Different concept than gender which is a classification of sociology not biology. Second yes, homosexuality appears in nature independent of human intervention.

[thorny steeple]

God does, He is against what they do but still loves them. They are called to celibacy

[versed rain]

@manic juniper In other words, are Spain and Turkey seen on the same level by all NATO countries on the Gaza issue, and are they seen as taking reactions with human rights without any religion effect?

[thorny steeple]

I use those terms interchangeably so give me a cut there. Also, indeed homosexuality appears in nature not denying that but that doesn't mean there are 70 + genders.

[versed rain]

@manic juniper Simply, since Turkey is a majority Muslim country, does it have an excluded influence in NATO, or is it seen as a good and sincere country?

[thorny steeple]

Also, Homosexuality is unnatural because it involves anal sex which is unnatural as nature has not designed anus for sexual activity. Homosexuality is unnatural because it can not procreate which is the basic law of nature.

[versed rain]

For example, can a double standard be applied against Turkey in NATO?

[shy summit]

The problem is in the use of modern science they are not the same thing. If you wish to be scientifically accurate then you must use accurate terminology.

Anal sex occurs in natural not just in humans. There are more reasons to have sex than just to procreate. Pretending like its the only reason to have sex is unrealistic

There are three evolutionary reasons for sex.

Obviously procreation.

Pleasure.

And pairbonding.

Just because something doesn’t meet all through does not make it unnatural.

To be unnatural one would have to prove humans and only humans invented it.

But the concept existed long before us, and will exist long after

[thorny steeple]

These are only seen in humans. They are very unnatural in mammals.

[shy summit]

No. They aren’t. Plenty of mammals are prone to homosexuality.

Now. If you meant Sociological categories that I can agree with but being unnatural =/= bad

[thorny steeple]

Give me a cut there. I never said, "Humans are the ones who invented Homosexuality". I said this for the genders that are popping up everyday.

[thorny steeple]

Yes, that was my point lmao

[shy summit]

Yes that’s not homosexuality

You are blurring multiple areas of understanding

Do you mean sex sexual orientation gender identity or gender expression?

What are you referring to exactly?

[thorny steeple]

I think we deviated from the main topic. I never said anything about Homosexuality.

[thorny steeple]

I'm talking about the genders specifically that are being made every day by the west.

[shy summit]

Gender expressions are social categories

[thorny steeple]

Yes, that's what I was trying to explain to that guy

[shy summit]

All social categories are invented

[thorny steeple]

Exactly my point

[shy summit]

Cool, black, white, man, woman.

Nonbinary

[thorny steeple]

He was referring to this as the creation of god

[shy summit]

I see.

He can think god exists but he can’t deny our known origins. Abiogenesis has been proven

[thorny steeple]

That was the whole debate. Lmao you deviated it to another whole level 😭

[shy summit]

Apologies

[thorny steeple]

Now we're on the same page

[shy summit]

The adam and eve story is clearly an allegory according to modern understandings of geneology.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[manic juniper]

Plenty of studies on homosexuality in goats, it's perfectly normal

[manic juniper]

I don't think religion plays into it at all, Kosovo has the same amount of Muslims and Albania too is Muslim majority

[thorny steeple]

Sir that's not the topic. The debate deviated very much.😭 🙏

[manic juniper]

I don't care about the topic, but being dishonest about it isn't good in my eyes

Philosophical bullsh¡t has nothing to do with how biology works

[thorny steeple]

What falsehood did I say?

[manic juniper]

That it's unnatural in mammals

[thorny steeple]

I was talking about genders and it got mixed with biology and sex

[thorny steeple]

Indeed it is, I'm not denying it is not but it is very uncommon

[manic juniper]

it's not uncommon in goats at all

[thorny steeple]

How exactly are we defining uncommon?

[manic juniper]

You're the first that brought that up, I would say that 25% of them being bisexual doesn't mean it's uncommon

[thorny steeple]

1/4 is uncommon for me

[manic juniper]

I don't know on what basis he said that, is it because Turkey supports Palestine? It's already known that Israel doesn't like nuance

[feral river]

Israeli even want to tell what should China do 😭

they refuted after we say we support 2 state plan

but all the business between China and Israel is still ongoing

[unique light]

Wouldn't say it's harder than to learn how to fly a plane

There're some differences, but it's pretty much the same process

You train on a heli instead of a plane, that's the only difference

Alouette III isn't used anymore anywhere as far as I'm aware, I guess it was harder to train on them than on modern helicopters

[lament forge]

Im serious

[unique light]

Helicopters and planes are now simple to fly, it's not harder than driving a car

The process of becoming a pilot is actually pretty much the same as in a driving school, you just have more exams and theory to learn

After that you become a flying taxi driver

With a higher salary

[thorny steeple]

Isn't it dangerous?

[unique light]

No, absolutely not

You're an operator, not a pilot in a modern aircraft

You prepare it for the flight, the rest is done by the plane itself

If I were to fly an Airbus a320, I'd basically be an operator in the cockpit, setting up all the systems and inputting all the flight information into MCDU

And turning on the autopilot at the height of 100 meters

You don't fly it, you prepare it for the flight and telling it what to do

[manic juniper]

My mum can do both, she says the helicopter is a lot more difficult but idk

[manic juniper]

As always

[unique light]

Is she a pilot?

[manic juniper]

Yes, she also works in aviation cybersecurity but I don't know what was the last time she was on a helicopter or a plane

It's possible that the technology changed a lot since then

[thorny steeple]

Here in Brazil, this is too expensive, only the upper class can afford that

[unique light]

Same everywhere

Here in Ireland you'd pay more than 100 grand to become a pilot

Your best bet would be AerLingus Fully Sponsored Pilot Programme, but there're more than 10,000 applicants every year and they only take 10-15

Training at Atlantic Flight Training Academy in Cork will cost you around €102,500 and this **does not **include your accommodation and food expenses

AerLingus is free, but you get a 150 grand debt to be paid after you graduate as a first officer

No other options are available to you in this country 🫠

[feral river]

be careful she can be a member of KGB

she's planning so long that she will restore the Soviet Union by flying that helicopter while using computer to destory everyone's computer and force them to unite together under the flag of sickle with hammer

[manic juniper]

Maybe, she is a commie

[thorny steeple]

Is antiporn our generation's anti-tabagism

[thorny steeple]

Hello everyone, sooo....what's the topic? 🙂

[lime jolt]

If we swap our wardrobes for a week, what we both gonna wear?

[thorny steeple]

Most likely the same type of clothes but different clothes, depending on our preferences. Considering you have a certain weather where you are, it will be a bit funny 🙂

[thorny steeple]

Gay latino attacks again

[lime jolt]

I definitely will attack you, I got a cannibal dinner tonight, my good sir

[thorny steeple]

Do you mean like a cosplay party or something similar?

[thorny steeple]

Por favor, no haga eso

[shell schooner]

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[ripe berry]

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[whole beacon]

@ripe berry
@delicate wolf @unborn fox
U may continue here

[delicate wolf]

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[ripe berry]

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[thorny steeple]

purr we love a gay latino

[lime jolt]

A male lesbian indian tbh

[thorny steeple]

LMAOOWSDNPSN

[lime jolt]

wsg girl

[rancid elbow]

I think it would. You could learn a lot simply by doing your own research online. It's 2024 yk

[shy summit]

That would be true if any of us native speakers could actually speak it correctly

[rancid elbow]

Because knowing two languages is better than one?

[indigo tinsel]

Shimmer y shine

[rancid elbow]

The thing is you don't even have to be fluent to comfortably use a language

[indigo tinsel]

Hola

Shimmer y shine

OoohhHooh!