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The better solution to that wouldn't be a monarch but rather to reform their territories into autonomous regions or self governing reserves
Yes and therefore is why I'm supporting the systems Ottomans had during their time
We didn't label everyone as Turkish like total fascists and made them revolt against us
We rather gave them their autonomous regions
Bro what are you even saying
😭
It isn't a bad thing to have reserves and self governing territories
It is
What Ottomans did was they recognized the autonomous states
And ruled them
Like the area where Kurds lived was named Kurdistan
It was still apart of the Empire
However no one forced them to be Turkish
That's my point
You are no one to decide what is modern and what is not
I'm not saying give them independence
I don't support the idea of Kurdistan neither
But just recognize the land where millions of them live and where we as Turks are minorities actually
@manic juniper since you seem to be the only finn here, i give you this.
That's how you rule a multi-cultural country
There are things to be learned sometimes, for instances most western countries fail where eastern European countries succeed in protecting their minorities and promoting their cultures
don't ask why the mouse has a singular red button...
You can just recognize those lands
I wish my country was more similar to Romania or Ukraine when it comes to minorities
Is she Finnish
Catalonia is recognized as an autonomous community within Spain
We can either recognize Kurds as autonomous communities
Or recognize it as an autonomous state
And for me, I'd choose to recognize them as autonomous communities
Mate I'm a pan-turkist, but you know
To enforce your nationality somewhere, you cannot do that while others also live there
You either kill them all, or just stop whining over how Kurds don't count themselves as Turks
And the only way to manage a multi-cultural state is to respect their values
Nah we have an autonomous region in Finland, it never caused any problems to us
That's what we lacked
He doesn't understand it
@versed rain
If you're not ethnically cleansing them all
Autonomous regions are necessary when the government doesn't know the needs of the local people or if they are a minority
There is a risk, but it can be avoided
The same rebel groups wouldn't enjoy any support at all from the people because they see them as violent and destabilizers
As a Turk, we'll either have a country cleansed of all other ethnic groups, or we will stop trying to label them as Turks
What Atatürk enforced lacks here
It's akin to Spain with the Basque rebellions, the Basque people don't support the rebels anymore because they're seen as chaotic
And their current condition, while not perfect, is certainly better than the alternative
Kurds would choose an autonomous community in Turkey over a chaotic Kurdistan
I'm not a son of the Republic indeed, Republic is what I'm arguing against are you mental
Lmao
Make the autonomous regions a reality and give them an ultimatum. If they don't stop then annihilate the rebels, they will have less and less support anyway
The rebellions will eventually be reduced to sporadic terrorist attacks
You don't know if you never tried...
I'm not the enemy of my homeland no
I'm not the enemy of the Republic neither as I'll be working for it in 2 years
However, that doesn't mean I'd choose a republican system over the things I said
I know you don't when you lack points, but that's okay
It's easier to call me a traitor and run away I get it
Autonomous doesn't mean that it has to refuse the unitarian system, my country is still unitarian and has an autonomous region
Pan-Turkism
their homeland is north iraq mountains
Okay buddy👍
not Turkiye
How did they end up there then
Yeah so is our homeland back in Central Asia, do we leave Anatolia and return there now?
The concern is where they live rn, not where they originated from
they escaped to turkiye from saddam husein
i advocate that we form a nation entirely made out of rich people to go into space, and once in a while they come back and kill the living shit out of the dirt-eaters
We came here before 900 years
That's the plot of Horizon Forbidden West
and the Spacers from Brigador
except they're more a faction than a unified nation. all share the same rich aspect however
that's also where i picked up the term dirt-eater from
actually, not all Kurds want autonomy
Still central asia is where we originated from
ye
Doesn't mean we will leave the lands we conquered centuries ago
So the point is, for Kurds who lived in the Güneydoğu region of Türkiye for centuries too, that doesn't mean they got no right to live here
Plasma is better than laser
they may live
but they cannot ask for autonomy
They also lived in Iraq and the Iranian region rather than Turkey
eh, low capacity
however, they do have something you might want to look at
They surely can, that's what I'm saying
You either ethnically cleanse them all or let them be autonomous communities
Cause if not, we are dealing with PKK and ASALA like organisations for years now
Wrong map, northern cyprus is also ours
They can't, ok? They came to Turkiye escaping from Saddam Hussein
@manic juniper they don't have plasma weaponry, but they do have a laser that is extremely inaccurate but is extremely damaging once focused into a narrow beam
The Commonwealth is ours
Their homeland is northern Syria and northern Iraq.
Yeah so is ours Central Asia
Just like the Last Prism from Terraria
Your sentence has one meaning, they should either return back to those lands where they also will not be accepted, or they will live under the Republic and be forced to identify as Turks
Which is why our Soldiers are dying
And which is why we are dealing with Kurdish guerillas
Due to our inhumane treatment
eh, far more cost effective.
While half of Turkish history is in Central Asia, the other half is in Anatolia.
So Anatolia too Turkish.
more copies sold than any one-off ever made (nonsensical sentence structure)
Besides, I don't tell they can't live in Anatolia.
As it is Greek and Armenian and for other ethnicities
We're not the only ones who glorified these lands
So you cannot claim Anatolia as our if you go by History
Who cares it?
You do, your point goes off of the history of these lands
They never had a country before.
So Rome was just a drunken dream?
I didn't mean greeks.
I meant kurds people.
They lived in these lands
Like us
Therefore is why the Ottomans accepted them as autonomous communities
They have autonomy in the Northern Iraq region.
The ones that live in the Iraq region, yes, not the ones that live under our Republic
They lived longer in the Middle East than in Turkey.
They were actually spread
That sentence made no sense eitherway
They have spread recently.
Nope, they were living as Tribes within our borders for centuries as well
Their population is so large because their birth rates are high.
I don't think you can actually speak English, your "points" don't make no sense
They aren't different.
The ones that live herein our borders are usually referred to as Kurmanji Kurds
They are since they are different Tribes
I have done and am doing way more for this country than you could ever imagine brother
Have no worries
I don't support PKK mate, I literally can also express hate against them
But we are talking the hows, whys and wherefores here
The recent increase in the population of Kurdish people does not mean that they can establish a autonomous state.
Why did PKK gain so much members from the Kurdish youth during 80s and 90s?
We gave them propaganda materials by killing and violating innocent Kurdish people
They were, some were
Some were also brainwashed with this
Abdullah Öcalan killed innocents and children.
And he saying "Kurdish people are stupid."
Yes he did, and curse be upon him
However our forces were also violating innocent Kurds
Because they were hiding in the villages.
We did mate, however much we love our country, you have to give it to them sometimes as well
We're not all sunshine and rainbows
We also did mistakes
And those mistakes led to the growth of PKK and ASALA
I know and accept it.
Exactly that's what I'm arguing, not doing terrorist propaganda or anything, however just accepting our mistakes
I recommend you to listen to Osman Pamukoğlu's explanations.
And @versed rain should also learn to accept it
I have, he is a great major general who sacrificed a lot for this country
Okay, he explains why civilians died along with terrorists.
I've listened to both views, believe me, however as much as I accept the Kurdish mistakes, I also look at what my country has done with previous political regimes
Exactly, however that did not stop the kurdish terrorist organisations from using that to kurdish youth as a propaganda material, brainwashing them
That was our mistake
Nobody cares about their propaganda except the imperialists.
Not an autonomous field as a necessity, they can also be recognized as "autonomous communities"
Like Spain recognizes Catalonia
Not a state, but rather communities
Cause what we do now is just that we try making Kurds that live under our Republic say out loud that they are Turkish
Well, not so much nowadays
But during the 70s-80s-90s period, it was inhumane
An autonomous state is also not a fully independent state
Even though my support to it would be up for a discussion, a kurd autonomous state would still be ruled by Turkish administration
The ones who speak for full independence is what we as the armed forces fight against, I have no worries for that
However, the ones who only wish a bit of recognition, I believe they should not be forced upon anything
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And read what autonomy is
Yes, that would be an autonomous community
Therefore is what I supported up above
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Refugees must be restricted
Comedy ^
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Look at the all Europe
Refugees have to follow rules of the country of residence
you can have this as a cool gift to de-escalate the tension of the chat
I saw this video. The policeman is right.
I really think so
He broke the policewoman's nose.
I don't understand why they are violent
Because they are uneducated and deprived of civilization.
Where are you living? Where are you from?
I'm from Turkiye and I live in Turkiye.
You have refugee problems
Yes, we have.
They must follow the law of countries where they are living
Most of them are ignoring it
I think so too but they don't follow the rules.
I've heard that they are following Kuran
They refuse to follow the rules even if someone reminds them the rules.
They have to know that they could get punishment if they don't follow the law
Yeah, even though Quran present them a better life, they do not care this.
Islamic Fundamentalism makes problems
I don't think they will learn.
And it never will be
Yes, when we say this, they insulting us.
heyy
Hi.
They don't know what the problem is
what's up
Yes.
Good and you?
Hmm it’s ok let them judge what they want to who cares . Which country is actually perfect ??
But I’ll not do it if u r saying
No one tbh
It is not funny.
It is ok right now. 🤗
He was a good architect
Who?
HItler
It depends on the country, we don't have a tragedy of that kind or level since WW2 or earlier during the northern wars
Are there fights?
Aren't those kind of overreactions
Some Turkish and Syrian guys gave a lot reaction.
But we didn't burn their flag.
Didn't fire their trucks.
Burning a flag is the least of my concerns
Widespread vandalism and violence seems much worse
It's very big insult.
Would you rather have people kill your family or burn your flag?
One of the reasons why Turks overreact is that the rapist does not surrender to the police.
No one.
Beat him then but why involve others
I think so too.
But Turkish people angry them.
Who escaped where?
Syrian refugees.
Where
Check the sentence you sent
No worries
I said those people on both sides overreacted, one more than the others if they really caused widespread destruction and vandalism on private property
I'm pretty sure that most people committing the crimes weren't the shop owners with a job, or those that could afford to buy a car
Well an iraqi student killed a school headmaster with a gun some months ago
You shouldn't accept refugees, ever, it's just an epic scam
By "you" I mean, you Turks
So take action
Revolt and establish a new order
Bring back the ottoman empire
The TeutWonic Order
Teutonic order was just wow
Nah the W is just there because it's the sequel (Two)
They kicked the Russians' ass several times
With swedes
I only remember them as the clean-up crew after the Livonian Order got completely smashed by the local pagans and they had to be reformed
I have heard of the raids they made in Muscovy or Novgorod
What do you mean by this?
When they made those raids they didn't exist there, there wasn't a country
Maybe some kingdoms or just unorganised tribes
how many jews are there in turkey?
The saddest thing about those revolutions or movements in the Middle East and Africa is that they never change it for the better
Then carry out a coup d'état with the reformists and Kemalists
In Tunisia they seemed to have worked, but now the government is becoming authoritarian
Because I am a dreamer, I just dream about a better world
You see, but this is the mentality that limits you, you don't like Erdogan, but you don't do anything to stop him
Just act
But Erdogan has been in power there for almost 10 years, is this democracy?
Just start a revolution
If I was in the EU I would militarily occupy Hungary and fully dismantle the current government
Because he uses television for propaganda, never trust television
Me too
And I would sh!t on Orban
If they can't be kicked out then they'll be forced in for good 🦿
Or execute him in public square
And air it all on television
He will be confined in a Romanian prison with Andrew Tate
A Transylvanian prison where he can speak Hungarian with the Szekely
I'm not civilized, I'm barbarian, my ancestors literally destroyed the Roman empire (but they also ceated it 🥲)
The barbarians also sent the man to the moon, but why be so prickly now?
The German scientists in Apollo 13
Who coincidentally were also former Nazis
But great minds have great technology
The Cold War was just the losing side challenging one another while on rival factions
It was Germans against Germans in the end 😂
How people imagine the Cold War: 🇺🇲vs🇷🇺
How actually was: 🇩🇪vs🇩🇪
I don't know what you mean by this, but he was certainly a great man
Also Poland, 2 or 3 times:
It's in our blood ☝🏻☝🏻🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼
It's funny how Poland walked around Central and Eastern Europe in circles over the centuries
I took a shower this morning, how barbaric I am
I should do it every hour
Colonial isn't that bad
Yes, I was playing along
I was joking too
Did I irritate you?
At least today?
Just sometimes
What does this mean?
I'm a D!ck Head sometimes
Also why are there at least two different animations of a golden Atatürk-like being?
I'm just the new @feral river
I do not, I don't speak Turkish
I knew that the gif before said because I asked Turks to translate but this one is new to me
What does it say?
I can't really say it properly because it's a mix of Turkish and Japanese, it was a joke about keeping the advance from Attack On Titan
This one seems different
I'm even more confused
Don't send them
The way it's translated directly is even more confusing, it's something "osasageyoing"
Xaxxaxaxaxxa
They're anti-ataturk gifs
This stuff is what tempts me to learn Turkish just to understand the depth of these memes
no its
I came
I saw
Idk I sent it in a Turkish server before, they thought it was weird but funny and they didn't even know the subject of the first gif
I came
k
Caesar in Egypt
It's good yo know Atatürk
Veni vidi veni
which server
Me explaining to my teacher how the penguins secretly contributed to Hitler's rise to power
lol
I'm not there anymore, the name was in Turkish and was LGBT
I can try to find it again if you're really interested
ahh
It was on my previous account, the one I abandoned in favour of this
troll servers
They will say it's just a conspiracy theory
Nah it was legit
I didn't know there were so many LGBT people in Turkey
Many of them minorities too which was even more surprising
nah there isnt many lgbt people in turkiye other than istanbul izmir etc
The place where I found the gif was on another server, now banned, it was the r/2balkans4you server
I mean compared to the rest of the Middle East and West Asia they were a lot, I'm not used to it
I'm kidding
I can recommend you some Turkish server for conversation
She's Finnish
If I'll ever be interested in learning it for real, at the moment I don't think I will
But thanks for the offer
Bye
Ok
I spoke to an Ukrainian girl that knows many Turkic languages, she is B2 in Crimean Tatar
And she's only 17 I think
But their language is similar
I am the most tolerant person that can exist, I even tolerate milk
It's very similar somehow, seems like most Turkic languages didn't change much
Should've mentioned Slavic languages as well
Sometimes
maybe idk
our people anti lgbt actually but nvm
It's even more crazy with Turkic languages
Turkish police chase and detain activists at Istanbul's Trans Pride Parade, June 18, 2023.
Police sealed off Istanbul's city center to block participants of the Trans Pride Parade who had come to march against the discrimination of transgender people, despite officials banning Trans Pride festivities on Sunday.
Marchers gathered in Harbiy...
She only studied Crimean Tatar and Turkish, and wanted to start with Kazakh
I guess, but still many seem to be openly LGBT at least on Discord
or they openly accept LGBT
I mean, it's literally useless persecute them
They are the people who might be least harmful to governmental stability
I'm opening Discord on my other account
They literally terrorist.
I will check the server's name
Weren't they just LGBT?
No, their ideas are so bad.
For what, for Islam?
No.
How can I explain I don't know
If you watch videos similar to this, you can understand why
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Yes, many Kurds too
Who are we to judge. It's your country your laws.
I was on another LGBT server, one day I received a DM from a Turkish lady (bisexual I believe) with just an invite link so I clicked on it
I didn't expect to join a Turkish LGBT server
And idk why she invited me since nothing on my profile hinted at me being Turkish
Not with this account, but yes
I have 3 accounts, this is my third one
My original account is Vyrsolun, that one I used there is a secret
I use this one to avoid getting banned on my main
I used to fake being a boy to join gaming teams and squads
One time I forgot to reveal that I was a girl, I only revealed it almost 8 years later
I don't consider myself LGBT but I don't think I'm straight either
I tried one of those when I was 15, the application didn't show any difference
Questions. Is it normal that they don't have batons?
It didn't even change my hair
I wish, I could be strong like an Icelandic woman
What is your opinion on black people and LGBT people
black people in türkiye are one of the best communities you can ever meet
Why is that
I believe that if Atatürk was still alive he would make use of memes and imagery such as that
they are so cool here, i dont remember any major crime committed by them while i was in türkiye
Why are there black people in Turkey, are they ex slaves from the Ottoman Empire or are they immigrants/refugees?
Which countries are they from
african countries
🤔
but there are some communities in the aegean region that are black but are turkish
Yes, it is.
I personally never had bad experiences with them, but unfortunately there is a strong racist sentiment
Ottomans had slaves?
Yes like most countries in the Balkans and the Middle East of that time
Immigrants and Afro-Turks.
The only countries that had abolished slavery were the late Roman Empire regions, so the Italian States and the Eastern Roman Empire's remnants
God bless Abraham Lincoln
LGBT is normal.
I understand
Are you LGBT
no. for muslims and Turkiye isnt muslim country
Turkiye isnt but in Turkiye LGBT people acting like a terrorist
Their prides are political.
lgbt people dont doing anything just live and love like other people. this is ridiculous. terorist and lgbt people not the same of course
Their propaganda 🥶
and their words
Is he is turkey guy?
The LGBT community supports Hamas, Hamas is a terrorist organization
am I?
Huh
Ni matter miss
Wait so why i sayed this is okey
Uuuuu cattie here🤗🤗🤗🤗
Are u okay?
🤔
Really?😳😳😳
No matter*
Actually, they supporting PKK and YPG
I understand
But stay no
Haven't heard abt this
For Turkiye*
AH was better at least
Jews don't seem to like Nazis
At least it had a better economy
lol
they love bc hitler genocided them
What did he say?
But why compare him to Hitler?
What
I think they have different ideological affiliations
Well, I don't support Palestine or Israel, all the same shi, but that's true
Why is article on video in Hebrew
Arabs in general aren't that bad though
This looks more like a conspiracy against the Jews
Left hand is ok
Maybe they don't always manage to integrate into the countries that host them, but I recognize their many accomplishments
Lol, Arabs have been doing this for many years
I've already seen a lot, it's not worth it
I didn't say that
I don't support anyone
It's a war btw, what do you expect?
Not a war if the other side isn't fighting
If Hamas had not attacked Israel on October 7th, this genocide would not have happened
There are no innocents in this war actually
And against a fully modernized army, I wouldn't consider what Hamas comes up with a "war"
They're doing acts of terrorism
Facts, but i said also fact
Remember at least one war where innocent people did not die ????
All wars violate people's rights
It's a dog chasing its tail, the Palestinians do something against the Israelis and they react disproportionately, it's always been like this unfortunately
In every war children die, and believe it or not, but there have been Israeli casualties too
If PKK terrorists are hiding among civilians back home in Iraq, then Turkey has every right to conduct an anti-terrorist operation
You did it with Syria though, I don't blame you at the same time
Hamas hides in civilian infrastructure and then on Instagram they cry that another hospital was bombed
Indeed, wouldn't justify all the killings Israel did though
yusuftahaofficial was banned.
Nah man
Nor would it justify the crimes committed by Hamas,
However, on a technical scale, Israel has done far worse than Hamas in Gaza
You can't know this, throughout history all peoples have committed horrible things, even Turkey for example
Do you know the IDF's goals in the Gaza Strip?
Please inform me of them
Destroy all terrorists
It's more complicated than that
Well, I myself don't consider children of babies as terrorists
I don't think children are terrorists either.
Nor would I go forward and bomb hospitals which are internationally protected
If you become an army general and your enemy hides in a hospital, will you blow it up?
And they allowed it to come to power
Well it goes both ways you know
There's this never ending oppression of Israel even within it's border to Arabic descent people
Palestinians chose Hamas as a political party to protect their beliefs
However as I said, it goes both ways, there they fueled the destruction
However fueling it and doing it are 2 separate conditions
Just because they voted for people with AKs and turbans shall not make them subjects to be bombed by a fully modernized military
Several million Arabs and Muslims and Christians and other Arabs live in Israel and they have an Israeli passport with all constitutional rights
Really? Why is the Israeli government giving Arab houses to Jews in Israel then?
Can you prove it?
"if i didnt steal it, someone else would have"
What a Jew in Israel said to an Arabic family after getting their home
For sure!
Let me get you the video
"You are stealing my house."
This is what a Palestinian woman told an Israeli settler, as he tried to take over her family's home in occupied East Jerusalem's Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood.
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There you go
Hamas had a very specific political agenda, they are terrorists, it is useless to argue about this, they aimed at the political instability of Israel. The only way to achieve this was to carry out attacks against them in order to destabilise them, killing women and children, fear is useful in this.
The government lacks prosecution and allows these things to happen on a daily basis
There are no updates on this Jewish man being prosecuted by an Israeli court
I'm not a Hamas defender, they are terrorists, but so is IDF as they have and are repeatedly committed/committing acts of terrorism
- Why do they speak English? 2. Why does the process of confiscation of property from Arabs take place on the street? 3. This video is from some YouTube channel - journalism, I guess. 4. Is this the only video you can show me? Looks like a fake
Who banned him?
- Because one speaks Hebrew the other speaks Arabic (English is an international Language) 2. Where else would it take place 3. Yes this is from a journalism channel
You're not making any points
When IDF soldiers lost children or wives because of the attacks, well, what do you expect?
If Israel steals houses, then there must be some kind of bureaucratic process, a person cannot come and take a house from random people, they will beat him and call the police
I would expect the vengeance to be taken from Hamas, not children and babies
The absence of a bureaucratic process is what we argue here
That's why we're arguing the "oppression of the arab descent within Israel"
If everything was done legally, we wouldn't be debating here would we
You didn't answer my question, is this the only video you can show me?
F
If the Arabs are oppressed, then the Arabs should contribute to the rebellion within the country
No, that response right there is relevant to the topic we're arguing
We're arguing about the absence of legal processes and how the Israeli government lets these things happen
Your only argument was them speaking English
I want more evidence, you sent me a video that looks like a fake, prove to me that houses are being taken away from Arabs
Israeli police broke into the prayer room at the mosque in East Jerusalem as several hundred Palestinians stayed on after Friday prayers to protest against potential evictions of Palestinians from homes on land claimed by Jewish settlers. At least 178 Palestinians and six officers were injured in the night-time clashes at Islam’s third-holiest s...
Not so oppressive hm?
The video on YouTube with some people did not impress me
You claiming the video is fake does not mean it's fake
You are the one who has to do the proving to rightfully claim the video as fake
But maybe this "video on youtube" would impress you while Israeli Police throws gas and shock bombs into a holy mosque
How does this relate to our topic about houses?
Isn't Israel illegally occupying West Bank too? Or at least many Israeli illegally reside there despite the border agreements
It relates to our topic of Israel being an oppressive state
As we were discussing before
For the topic about houses, I'm still waiting on evidence from you to prove me how the video is fake
Not your thoughts or statements such as "this video is fake so we shouldn't believe it, why? cause i said so"
There's a big fence on the West Bank border, isn't there?
That’s terrible, hope they’re okay
I didn’t say that, I said that the video looks like a fake because some kind of absurdity is happening on it, I asked for more evidence
Are you trying to accuse me because you have no evidence?
Yes and I'm waiting on evidence from your side to prove me the absurdity of the video
You just claimed the video as fake and so we shouldn't go by it
My evidence is that video
I hope so too
The video itself is absurd, if you don’t see this then you must believe everything they write on the Internet
Israel has been occupying the West Bank with its military for an excessively prolonged time
And such a reponse like "how does this relate to our topic"
Just shows me your ignorance on whatever the Israeli government would do, you'd be deaf and blind
Israel is an oppressive state, it must be an oppressive state technically and logically to fully establish a Jewish state within Arabic populations
That's a matter of fact even some Jews don't deny
What we argue is what that oppression causes
You are trying to push for pity “look how poor the Palestinians are”, you started talking about the oppression of Arabs by Israelis, I asked for evidence
You're avoiding answering because you only had this false video.
I sent you an evidence
Here's your evidence of the oppression
You're avoiding it still
To understand the situation, more evidence is needed, and not one video that seems fake
I sent 2 actually
One video is not proof
Well I provided some, extended military occupation in the West Bank according to The American Journal of International Law
Not one
Daily reminder you're still avoiding this
@cinder quartz
I'm asking for evidence of the stealing houses, what's wrong with you?
You state that you also look for evidence of the oppression against Arabs, are you delusional?
I watched it, this has nothing to do with what you said
Therefore an evidence was sent
Claiming it's fake does not make it fake
Or it looking like fake to you does not make it an unreliable source
You should've some sort of a backup for that
Which you still don't provide
This is the third time I've asked you to send me more evidence on this topic, you're ignoring me
It has to do with the oppression against Arabs indeed, which is what you asked for above
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I'm only asking about stealing houses lol send me what you said "oh sure"
If it's so obvious, send me more evidence
I pray to my god that you'd not claim this as a Photoshop
Or claim wikipedia to be a fake
Demolition of houses - steal of houses? Send me what u said abt
Mega bruh
Why do you send me everything, but not what I ask for?
Can you not read what this says
I've already read this
What are your opinions on it
Terrible, I hope they got help with housing
But I still haven't seen the houses being stolen
Sad that they have not
A video was shared above
Not sharing anymore evidence, or you claiming it as a fake
Once again, does not disprove the video
Hi everyone
Sup Mark
This is the fourth time I’ve said it, I don’t believe this ONE video, send me at least one more
Yes, and this is my fourth time, you not believing in it does not make it unreliable
Is it that hard to comprehend?
Do you have anything other than this video?
About home theft
I doubt you were looking for something more
And why is that video unreliable again?
Cause you find it, fake?
No you are
It's like asking for the 11th photograph of a murder clearly committed by someone but only was taken 10 pictures for evidence
What good would it do for me to provide you a 2nd or a 3rd video when you can't even logically prove me the video is a fake?
I just want more video evidence, if you claim something, then you should be able to prove your point of view
I did, no debate rule dictates I shall provide 2-3 evidence in a row to make points
It actually requires you to debunk my points with reasonable responses for me to be required to assist with more evidence
Your whole point is "I don't believe in this video, provide me something else, you can't? Then you're wrong"
No, it’s not at all like that, if all you can send me is one video that was possibly filmed according to a script and nowhere except this video you can’t find information on this topic, then you’re stupid
It's like I'm debating a primary schooler
Is it your first time or something
Your statement: Israel is stealing houses from Arabs, Proof: one video and nowhere else is it written about it
"Possibly" yet you lack to disprove it
Al Jazeera is a news channel, it's written and posted there
What is your proof of disproving that?
I say "possibly" because I can't believe one video, send me at least the second one
Send me a video from there
And the thing is, you not being able to believe in it does not debunk the video or make you right with your claims
That video you saw was posted from the Al Jazeera channel
Check it again
I'm not saying that I'm right, I'm not saying that this video is fake, I ask you to send me at least 1 more video on this topic
I said it LOOKS like a fake
Which means it is unreliable, and I asked you to prove me how it was unreliable and your argument was "I didn't feel like believing in it, so it looks like a fake and is unreliable"
Are there any more videos on this topic?
Not that I found, no
I just provided you the video that's known to me, with a deeper research, I believe so we'll learn more about the oppressive actions of the Israeli government
However, doesn't still mean there are no more videos on it just because I'm unaware of them
Therefore does also not makes the video unreliable because you felt like not believing in it
You're lying, I said that I don't want to believe one video, you can't trust random videos on the Internet, so I'm asking for more evidence, your argument is "just believe this ridiculous video from some propaganda channel"
More evidence would be "more random videos on the internet" still
What differentiates them?
Does one's point be right when they share multiple random videos
This makes the video unreliable because this is the ONLY VIDEO you found, do you believe it?
Well, there are multiple videos made about that video
Would it make it reliable because it adds up in numbers?
Your point is baseless
Many random videos on one topic mean that this topic is covered AT LEAST ONCE IN HISTORY
If I took a picture of a dead body and shared it, would it not be the point that I took and shared the photo just because it wasn't taken at a different angle and was posted by someone else?
What does numbers have to do with the righteousness of a point?
Something is right because it has more retweets for you?
More than one
A Palestinian family has been evicted from their home in occupied East Jerusalem, and Israeli settlers were allowed to move in.
This happened a week after Israeli authorities set a deadline for the family to leave, using an absentee property law that is half a century old.
Al Jazeera's Laura Khan reports from occupied East Jerusalem.
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Your only video from a propaganda channel may or may not be fake, I just want to make sure that what you said is true and that Israel really stole 2000 houses this video said
Ah thank you, I didn't see this one
Wow wow, calling a news channel a propaganda channel cause it does not fit right in with your beliefs now eh?
"is there any confirmation from official IDF channels, I don't trust al jazeera🤓"
"nor do i trust the guardian, show me some IDF confirmation"
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The United Nations, the United States and the European Union have all called on Israel to stop the illegal eviction of Palestinians and the demolition of their homes.
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there's many cases but not everything is recorded
@inland hedge Follow her lead, at least she was able to find more than one video🤡
Please explain to me what a bunch of people are doing at the entrance to the building
And why do they scream
For sure, I'm proud she's able to show the oppression of the Israeli government to you despite your ignorance
Good work@desert nebula 💙
there's more in arabic but you'll call it acting most probably
yeah they should dance ig
thanks:)
Well, I don’t know, more videos - more I think I’m wrong, this stupid boy tried to prove to me that one video with fat Jew is enough
it's not about the number. the thing is i thought now everyone knows israell isn't following any law. so that's normal for them.
I know that Israel violates human rights, I just needed to see evidence from this guy about the crimes
And you did?
I can't believe his words and the video with the fat Jew
I just didn't provide evidence on the housing part as much as @desert nebula did
Don't generalize as if you weren't given any evidence💙
I saw people screaming in front of two buildings, does that count?
It counts when you saw a mosque bombed with gas and shock grenades
Do you know what this situation was? Raid? Why would the police just break into a sacred building?
good i thought you're one of the blind supporters. i know you love searching
you can search for more but from both sides of media
Oh so you also try justifying a mosque raid during ramadan
I get your points actually, don't even try acting like you acknowledge Israel committing crimes
this is recent news btw but idk if it'll make a difference
I asked “why did the police raid the mosque?”
Whatever the reason it was, I don't think Hamas was rallying their armory inside during Ramadan
Still inappropriate to raid one of the holiest mosques
Why would the police waste time throwing stun grenades into a mosque?
it was a misunderstanding i think
He claimed as if he wasn't given any evidence at all
Don't know, perhaps they are oppressive?
I think so too, it makes no sense to raid a mosque
they kill children with a cold heart do they need reasons for the rest of their acts?
You're lying, you gave me one video, I asked for more, you started saying that I don't admit anything
Nope, I gave you one video about the housing part
You were given 2 videos and a photo about the house demolitions and mosque raids
i see. @cinder quartz you support terrorist idf?
So yes, multiple evidence was given
I refuse to talk to you, you are insane
Why should I support the army of a country that is not my own?
Bruh
they destroyed churches and mosques simply bc theyre palestinians
Indeed
idk i feel you're biased towards israel:/
What's the point of using missiles that cost millions of dollars to destroy houses?
if you have a question ask us but not the west media
If only no one was hiding in these houses
to kill the civilians inside?
I don’t watch the media in general, and if I do, I’m used to being skeptical about everything
Ah so it's legal to kill a family of 4 just because a Hamas tunnel they had beneath their home?
they consider all palestinians are terrorists including children bc they said the children will grow up to be fighters and take revenge
Spending 200 thousand dollars to kill one person? I don't think there are such stupid people running the army.
that's why if you saw the body remains you won't doubt anything
A photo of a dead person does not mean that he was killed in the Gaza Strip, is it logical? Everything can be faked
how many millions of dollars did bashar borrowed from ur president to kill the civilians? same question can be asked
wait lemme search
Syrian president?
If Russia benefits from this, then we can consider this like a loan to syrian gov.
where would he be killed then? they're speaking palestiniaan dialect and literally the body was buried under the rubbles
I mean photo “evidence”, I saw a lot of photos where it said that these were killed civilians from the Gaza Strip, but it turned out that these were photos of ISIS corpses or mannequins
you think he'll return them😂 he can't help his country to pay his laoans second
do you want to see some videos?
I don’t understand the Syrian issue, ask the Russian Foreign Ministry
Dm?
I always don't mind expressing my opinion on a video.
I shouldn't have been watching the Breaking Bad series all day long 😬
Is it your first time watching it?
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He is Turkish

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Didn’t they ?
Maybe they are not terrorists but they are funding the terrorist organization
If they are truly innocent they can avoid the civilian casualties by surrendering to Israelis
Otherwise they consider them as an enemy then kill it
I don’t think I have to guess when I entered a new place which is full of fighters inside civilian area
All I need to do is disarm them, put them into a camp to prevent such attacks forever.
I think Israelis having more mercy than me
I don’t think such policy of kill all of them like Japanese Empire do in our territory at WW2 still exist in modern era because it has no benefit to anyone.
Remember, policy on occupation area is a subject, a huge issue.
It’s important to taking over territory in a war, it’s more important to hold the territory you have taken.
Hi anyone to talk about something on pv, maybe books, coffe, cats or animes?
bro you need to quit the imaginary world you're living in fr
killing children is an act of terrorism and don't justify it by any excuses(gibberish)bc it became disgusting
Ur ideas are still as hilarious as ever
Lool
Very worrying
Your comment are still as hilarious as ever
Lool
Very worrying

Wait a minute what is a children ? Is a one who is surviving off of the war or the one yelling kill the Israelis in a war ?
A children doesn’t justify anything like if you are a lgbtq it doesn’t mean anything except you are a lgbtq
You are a children doesn’t mean you can do anything you want, doesn’t mean you can violate the law, doesn’t mean you have no preferences in a war, doesn’t mean they don’t have political opinions
Also doesn’t mean they won’t affect the war
Some adults can use them do politics
Like that guy I’m talking to 😂😂😂😂
Tf. He is talkig about actual bombings
And ur saying " children can be used for political gain"
That’s what ur asking
Don’t talking like I switched the topic
It’s you interrupted
I don’t want to have a problem with you but it seems you always have a problem with me
No, its ur shitty ideas. Not u in person. I have nothing with u.
Can I trust your word ?
All I’m talking is the truth which is happening in this world and how is it being justified
Didn’t really express that much
And you are talking that my idea is shitty, you are not
Sounds pretty funny if you read it again maybe you will laughed out like me 😂
I have no intention of upholding a promise to someone with such degenerate ideas.
But dw. Nothin personal
Very good then I have no intention of upholding a promise to someone says nothing only use some questions to question me for questioning.
But dw, nothin personal
I just can't stop my self from voicing my words. When some ppl utter such horrendous remarks. All coming from the comfortable place that is , their silly home.
🤣
Cry about it.
Pitty that ur treating this like a childish game tbh
Yeah pretty like a childish game even more easy
That’s just too easy for me
Not challenging at all
I know the truth, I know the trend, i know which side needed support, that’s all i need to do
And I know it, I do it.
Okay mr.know it all
Thank you for your support
tell me what's the normal reaction of a human who lost all his family by terrorists?
alright you already have some mental issues. you do realize in evrything children are dealt differently with. even the ones who commit crimes
Well. Gd luck
tamam you're right

He loves stalin and mao zedong!
Just sayin.
i'm not surprised
Just pay the responsibility of your violations 🤣 I’m also not surprised when Israel acting so careless
And I support them
In a war ? Who enact law in a war 😂
Law/rule without enforcement is a toilet paper, even it’s too tough for using it after a pee
They can respond anything and their enemy doesn’t care.
This is the world, survival for the fittest
I don’t even care since I earned some from this
As I always said, I support the powerful side in a war 🇷🇺🇮🇱
since when did Russia become the powerful side?)
patriotic of which country? that you were born or that you are living now?
hmmm interesting...
what do you mean by "powerful side in a war"?
...
bro 💀
Lol
Hey bro u look like a history lover I like that!, can I ask u a question?
I remember that there is a France girl who is more dangerous than napoleon, so how is she? (I forgot her name)
LMAO
agressors i think
Do you think trump assassination was staged ?
Aaah and your forgetting about the man that actually died by that bullet.
So this is gonna support your claim about it being staged
If that is so why isn’t the press after trump
As it always is behind him for every little detail
Why haven’t out we found the entire group involved in this play yet
literally means
It always
Hi all
Hi brother , how are you?
Trump 1st
Make America Great Again🇺🇸

wow

Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.
Have ever read Blood Meridian?
No, and it's not the first time that a politician has exploited a situation like this to improve his image.
Lets say a gang, or pirates invaded your place (your home).
Of course, the pirates are the powerful side, so you're gonna support the pirates... give your home to them....and be controlled by them buddy...?
According to "I support the powerful side in a war"
As an example, I mean...^
He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's not educated enough on the subject. There's no point in talking to him.
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@lunar ivy @magic olive How can you even think about it like this? That's pathetic. Do you think he created and plotted it to boost his campaign? It couldn't be plotted. That's unrealistic to perform. He nearly died, he was very very lucky, a fraction of inch closer and he would be dead. And you are talking it was staged...
Trump will win anyway. He has high chance according to bookmakers.
The mistress. I don't know much about napoleon's life and history, or even french history. Sry mate
If he lived in the 40s he would supporting the nazis.
Powerful side
A demented yobbo
Hi
Sup
Right
How old are you 12? Yes. 12.

lets just say UwU and move on...
yeah bro sounds like an anime character
You are a type of guy that would promote nazi genocide. What a menace.
Staged by the one who oppose him. That's for sure.
Hummmm it will not happen anyways, and the pirates which invaded my house illegally the police and law will protect my house and my rights.
nah police will support the powerful side like u...
cmon fittest will survive

So unfortunately in your place
In our place such pirates will just being killed by our officers
Did nazi a powerful side ? Didn’t that the Soviets and Americans ?
Why would I support a loser
Who cares what a person with a profile picture of a little girl thinks about war? 🤡
Who cares what a person talks nothing but using profile to accuse someone for no reason 🤣
Not really I rather support Americans and Soviets they are better than Nazis
And I’m a capitalist
Thank you I pretty like it 
Call me capitalist guys
A pure business man in heart
That’s me, and I love myself
Also love the world I live in 🇨🇳
21 and I’m on vacation in Japan
Pretty tired with normal days studying and working
A business man

I need some small vacation and I do in the past
It is I do investments I generate passive income

Me too.
I mean u put on a gd show.
I'll pay this chat a visit form time to time
I do sometimes you are welcome anytime ❤️
its illegal in discord
There r many children at this age have discord even younger
What do you mean? The shooter fired a few bullets. One of them killed a person and the other injured the other participants of the rally. Do you think it was also staged?
Judging a person by his pfp is quite delusional
who care's
@pulsar cove you look like a femboy you know. Take this as a compliment please
I can't shitpost on selfie channel so I shitpost this here
Haha thanks 
I do receive ppl calling me a femboy but honestly I find it hilarious
Close.. 
Although maybe. Maybe a ladyboy
That's my first time 
Lmfao
I do love it thoo <33
You're so cute lol. My kitty meowed when she saw that photo. Maybe cuz she saw herself there. She has black furr
I'm squealing..
She is too. Nah she is not. But she squeals sometimes
What a cutie patootie you have. 
Wait am gonna post her for you. You gotta know your future wife. Kinda progressive and leftist to marry to a cat but am not gonna judge
Then you could as well just be Chinese lol. You can't be a vietnamese, the chances of you being Burmese are low but never zero. Idk. Whatever. Chinese?
Nah this face is not so Chinese. You should be burmese
So mixed kid probably
Mhm
Even more to add.. I'm from like.. A multiracial country in ASEAN
Ooh
What... this can be everything. Every ASEAN country is multiracial
Are you chindo dude?
There's one most obvious.. If you know 
Nope
Well can't be thailand
Can't be Burma cuz it has a war now and you wouldn't just casually be postin cute selfies from a war
Singapore

Malaysia
Haha
Singaporean 
Then you must be rich. Every Singaporean is a multimillionaire company CEO
The poorest singaporean is worth like, all my organs sold on black market
I'm in academics but I'm studying for orthopaedics
I'm working on my surgical degree 
Yeah. Typical multimillionaire. And then you will do some heart transplants or you will fix someone's spine in 2 seconds speedrun any %

If not, I'd be a marine engineer, anthropologist, lawyer or politician
Please, be a politician. I wanna watch TV and be like "oh this one is cute, am gonna vote"
Lmao. Of course that's what is the most important in life. Looking, not being
Mhm, but don't worry too much. I love politics and I'm like a big fan
The earliest minister or my country inspired me
Y'know..popular Lee Kuan Yew
And dictatorship too lol
I know only like
Well that's not a politician
But she died in Singapore so maybe it counts as Singapore related. Like this criminal horror a$$ case of one Burmese girl who got starved in singapore
By some rich people
You probably know it
Oohh.. Criminology
I've never heard of this before though
I only know like.. Singaporean crimes through a crime channel
Wait am gonna find it so that you have some motivation to starve poor people

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Can they hold guns ?
Depends on the breed 
Yes, I just gotta feed properly
Not with hamburgers like Americans do
I never try to show a photo to one of my cat
Maybe that’s fun
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Btw it can only meow or craaaa
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This is one of the methods how Russian propaganda works
🧐
Sounds like a scam
Smoking propaganda on discord 😩
True. But then again it's discord
People are free to express and promote their sinister motives. The so called free speech.
The movie is 12 years old.
tryna seal a deal >:c
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You should've sealed the deal already 😡
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