🧠｜serious-chat

[cinder quartz]

?

My friend

How much is 400 liras in dollars?

In Russia you can buy good shaurma for 3-4 dollars

Same

Ok

It's kholodec

It's meat in jelly

Broth jelly

There is a lot of gelatin in the bones, cook the broth from the bones and it hardens in the refrigerator

Delicious with mustard sauce

It's sirniki

It consist of cottage cheese

Bc it's Russian

What

This is cottage cheese at generally

Borsch

Soup with beet

U mean beef?

Yes there is beef

There are some tomatoes, but the red color comes from beets.

Yea

Then you should like kotleti po kievski

These are chicken cutlets with butter

It's sharlotka

Like Apple pie

Looks like bloody sausages

Huh, I love sausages

All good sausages are made from intestines.

There must be a lot of meat

Meh

In Russia there is soup with pickled cucumbers

No, it's delicious

We call it rassolnik

Huh

Good

[surreal egret]

Hi

What's now?

[cinder quartz]

Blini

Do u kn korean carrot salad?

Yea

This is very popular in Russia, and the name is a lie, this carrot is not from Korea

[surreal egret]

Delicious 😋 but l advice you to take look on maroocan meals

[cinder quartz]

It's called that because this carrot is spicy.

[cinder quartz]

I ate Moroccan pancakes

With holes

Is krep a spicy carrot salad?

Blini also without carrot

I'm talking abt salad

The most popular salad in Russia is Olivie

Did u taste it?

Oh nice

[surreal egret]

Give my your ratings those meals

[cinder quartz]

I did not really like it

Some dry

Also, the taste of semolina in pancakes is terrible.

[thorny steeple]

Hello

Why are you losing time here?

I am talking to all of you

Is that a desire of validation perhaps? Or maybe

Are u seeking a way to cope loneliness, or maybe are u looking for a way to satisfy your needs as a social animal?

[weary belfry]

Can I ask you the same question? Why are you wasting your time here

[thorny steeple]

Why are you losing your precious time?

[thorny steeple]

If u were more intelligent u would easily understand that I am seeking answers

Are there more efficient ways to learn english than talking to strangers about nothing?

Something beyond your understanding, an hellish being

[weary belfry]

First of all, I'm not a stupid person. If you come here saying these, what are you doing here?

[thorny steeple]

I never said you were stupid, but it seems your poor language skills have confused you

[weary belfry]

I agree with you

[thorny steeple]

I don't know, I'm neither a god nor a genius

[weary belfry]

If you were smarter could you please explain the phrase to me? And I came here to learn English, which means my English is not good. Sorry for that.

[thorny steeple]

Perhaps theme groups and active learning would be more helpful. Even working where you are forced to speak English.

[weary belfry]

He's/she's trying to provoke us. I will ignore

[thorny steeple]

What makes you think this?

[thorny steeple]

You call yourself fluent but I see you struggle to maintain a conversation with a beginner

[unique light]

"Not a god nor a genius" 😂

[thorny steeple]

Well logically speaking you are not wrong to think I wrote it wrong. It can be misinterpreted as a double negative.

When would I have said this?

[unique light]

Just stop wasting your precious time here

[thorny steeple]

Why do you think I'm wasting my time? Do you think talking to you is useless?

[unique light]

Yes

You're here to waste your time proving that we don't have to waste ours, right?

[thorny steeple]

I'm sorry you think that about yourself. Maybe you should use positive affirmations to replace negative thoughts. For example, "I am capable" or "talking to me is not a waste of time".

[unique light]

🤦‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

I just asked a question, perhaps too specific for your soul.

[unique light]

"I am capable"... of what? Of talking to a stranger who's here to tell me what I should think of myself?

[thorny steeple]

I never said what you should think, do or believe. I just asked some questions.

As I said before, I am neither a god nor a genius for doing this.

[unique light]

Just ignore this lad... Such a waste of time

[thorny steeple]

I can give advice if that's what you want, but of little value.

[unique light]

I never asked for any advice, neither Yusuf did

[thorny steeple]

But the question remains, don't you think?

[unique light]

Which one?

[thorny steeple]

Looks like he did. But don't worry, it's not in my interest to give them away.

[thorny steeple]

Why are you wasting your time?

[unique light]

My advice would be to lower your self-esteem first

[thorny steeple]

Why do you think so?

[unique light]

Probably because it shows and it's pretty obvious that you have some problems with it

[thorny steeple]

With what?

Try to be clear when you write, please. In the end I'm just a beginner.

[unique light]

And this lad says "I can give an advice" 😂 What a dummy

[thorny steeple]

Well I never said about what. Everyone has something to teach, don't you think that?

[unique light]

Teach? Are you capable of teaching someone?

🧐

[thorny steeple]

Well somewhat maybe, I don't know but I am actually an university tutor in my college.

[unique light]

And what exactly are you teaching?

[thorny steeple]

I help students in subjects such as analysis, computer science fundamentals and more rarely in physics and biology.

[unique light]

Fair play to you

[thorny steeple]

•⩊•

Still, it was fun to talk about nothing. But I think it's time to sleep and I have to wake up very early tomorrow.

Sweet night ⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝♡

[unique light]

Nah, I'm into discussing conflicts or something like that

[noble niche]

Any experts on microbiology here?

[unique light]

@thorny steeple

[noble niche]

Appreciated. Was just wondering.

[thorny steeple]

I don't have a PhD in microbiology.

[whole beacon]

Im sorry for my words this is entirely unprofessional and out of protocol but.
But can u be a cry baby more.
Cuz if u ping mods, ur expected to be good. Not hide the word
Fuck it , in duck it.

[prime meteor]

Sup

[thorny steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYMc8vySVNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7pr2o9KoE8

[wooden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-farty-cartoon-smile-gif-15703331

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[wooden sundial]

loudfart.mp3

[indigo galleon]

Hi

[proud summit]

why are muslims always itching to tell everyone they're muslim

[tight spade]

why do people have to be this lonely? whats's the point of it all? millions of people in this world, all of them yearning, looking to others to satisfy them, yet isolating themselves. why? was the earth put here just to nourish human loneliness?

[proud summit]

most of ppl aren't lonely at all

[tight spade]

yea but most of them are lonely

[fickle pelican]

As a Muslim why would I be ashamed of being recognised as one? Maybe that's why they're very obvious about their beliefs.

[fickle pelican]

Are you lonely?

[thorny steeple]

Its bcuz of stress of relationship so many people decided rather to be alone

[proud summit]

what does shame have to do with all of that at all

[fickle pelican]

Exactly what I said

[proud summit]

my question was why do muslims always feel the need to let everyone know what they believe in as if they're gonna die if they don't and how that has anything to do with shame at all

[tight spade]

nah but most people are

[feral river]

Because they want to be alone

That’s the only reason, once you approach a person, you approached a new world of disappearance of loneliness

Sometimes I even want to be alone for chilling and managing my own business and sh*t

[feral river]

I don’t care politics if I was living a nice life, then who will care what they are living because of what ?

Because some external forces, hummm pretty much pretty normal, and something on them is under threat

That’s how they were responding, and like a whisper.

Unlike my money, funding some organization having guns to solve this problem for specific people permanently.

[frank pine]

Your all words make sense

[feral river]

If it is I would be the real supreme leader or some religious leader to establish my own order

[lavish finch]

Ok

[graceful valve]

i want to come to china

[feral river]

I’m on vacation in Japan

Enjoy ur trip to China

[ripe pawn]

Can't they do something more specific?

Bruh why they really think burn the USA flag can save Gaza

[wraith sorrel]

lol

u got a cool pfp

[ripe pawn]

Thank you 😂

[ripe pawn]

Kitty you can has chess burger wahhh

[wraith sorrel]

lol

[ripe pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/here-kitty-you-can-has-cheese-burger-gif-13517833946852974362

[wraith sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-catjam-vibing-vibin-loop-gif-20279064

[unique light]

I've no idea that PhD stands for

[unique light]

What's the point of doing this?

To show solidarity with Palestine?

[ripe pawn]

I don't know

[unique light]

Me neither

[ripe pawn]

They keep making chaos

[unique light]

The U.S. stands and will stand with Israel

Creating protests won't make the U.S. support Palestine

[ripe pawn]

If they really want to help Gaza why can't they do something more effective

[ripe pawn]

Yeo correct

[unique light]

They could've each donated a dollar to help the people of Gaza. That would be a real show of support

[ripe pawn]

If Trump is elected, I believe Israel will go even further

[ripe pawn]

agree

[unique light]

Israel can win on its own without any support from any other country. The fact that no one helps Hamas makes it even easier for Israel to win on their own

[ripe pawn]

Yep

[ripe pawn]

What’s interesting is that these gays who support Palestine and the most LGBT-hating Muslims are die-hard Democrats.

Yep

[near rivet]

Any og here?

[manic juniper]

I don't support Palpatine

I'm pro-iseal

[manic juniper]

He is evil, he turned Anakin to the Dark Side

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-emperor-look-stare-gif-15923185

Yes, the Chosen One

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-skywalker-star-wars-darth-gif-26017494

What is that

Doesn't sound like a Star Wars character

[thorny steeple]

Hate both of them

[manic juniper]

What did iseal do to you

[thorny steeple]

They didn't do anything to me but they killed innocents.

[manic juniper]

Bro iseal isn't a country and he never killed anyone

He's just a seal

[thorny steeple]

Shii

[manic juniper]

Yes, he is a user from here

Me neither, I only support reptiles and iseal

[cinder quartz]

ig topic is palestine

[manic juniper]

I don't understand what that has to do with Palpatine

Yes

I didn't even watch or notice the video

You're putting too much thought into something I did because I thought it was funny

[cinder quartz]

nothing will change in your life because of the war many thousands of kilometers away from you

what

[manic juniper]

I support any form of discrimination as long as it's towards mammals

[cinder quartz]

NATO's main goal is everyone's security, they don't care about anything outside their zone of influence

[manic juniper]

Not exactly

Erdogan uses refugees as blackmail for the entire EU

[cinder quartz]

ofc, Turkish and Russian military bases have been guarding the border with Syria for a long time

[manic juniper]

Yeah because it's theirs

The Baltic Sea is ours

That doesn't really encourage us to make Turkey join

What does Turkey have to do with the Baltic Sea

Exactly, who cares

So Turkey will stay out

[cinder quartz]

where is he from?

@manic juniper

huh

[manic juniper]

Didn't Turkey got involved in the Syrian Civil War and even occupied it

You reap what you sow

[cinder quartz]

for protection's sake Ig

[manic juniper]

If it was up to me I'd shoot everyone on the border on sight

First with rubber bullets and then with the real deal if they don't desist

[cinder quartz]

This is what happens in occupied territory?

[manic juniper]

Then how come those people get through the border

I don't understand, so you are allowing them in your country but still complaining that they're allowed in?

I don't like them in my country either yet I don't complain because I can't choose and I'm consistent about it

It isn't some heroic act to welcome them because they're being exploited most of the times anyway

Governments are amoral

A machine doesn't have morals and compassion

I never complained about it, I just stated how it is

Turkey isn't being a hero, in fact it's exploiting the situation and even framing the EU as being complacent in this situation and being hostile, when it's the one amassing refugees on the border. This is some Belarus-level bullshit, for the same reason no one likes Belarus

I don't like following American interests either

Lol and we have the right to keep you out

What is there to be grateful about lol we don't owe you anything

Not really, we got done building the largest and most advanced nuclear power plant in Europe

For a country of the size of Finland it's a great improvement in energy production

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-gas-supply/
USA and Norway are a lot more helpful

Like I showed there Turkey's help isn't even significant

It's lumped in the "other" category

[blazing solstice]

omg you guys still arguing about turkiye..

you hate turks that much?

[manic juniper]

Didn't say one thing about them

[blazing solstice]

you sure?

[manic juniper]

Yes

He's the one that said stuff about us Europeans lol

Nah I don't like looking at hideous things on purpose

Like I said there is nothing to be grateful about, I'm not grateful about Belarus and same with Turkey

Using people to blackmail isn't really something I will respect

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/uuh-cat-funny-cats-uhh-gif-5575392758585270122

[manic juniper]

Do you think we don't have refugees, Turkey has 23%, Sweden has 14%

plus over 20% of its population has foreigner background

That's how percentages work

If you live in a country of few thousands and the refugees are hundreds you will notice them, it doesn't make a difference if the country has millions and the refugees are hundreds of thousands

i never said it makes you a hero to take in any refugee at all, you have this weird image of Turkey as a saviour or something

[tight carbon]

Hello, my name is Darius, I come from Germany, I have a question for the community if there are people here who are more familiar with documentaries: discovering from the depths, nature, other interesting things apart from crime, war, history, would you recommend watching something on certain paid streaming platforms? such as Netflix, HBO Max, Amzon Prime, etc.: and free online ones, I will be grateful for your help in advance

[manic juniper]

Then why do you even bring it up if it's not a matter of importance

[manic juniper]

sflix if you want to watch all of them for free, just use an adblocker like Ublock origin. Watch Prehistoric Planet if you like dinosaurs, it has 2 seasons so far

These services don't deserve one cent

?

Blackmails the EU with refugees

Same as Belarus

However Poland doesn't take shit from anyone unlike Greece and other EU countries, based Poland

I wish it was Poland on the border with Turkey

?

I wasn't the one that talked about responsibilities and heroic acts

In fact I straight up said all these governments have second interests with the refugees

Nah we would've helped Poland because it's a respectable country

That's how politics is honey

How can you be racist towards a country?

Especially when we are a different race from Slavs

Not once I mentioned citizens in fact, I always mentioned political entities

Belarus is Christian/atheist too, yet no one respects it

Russia is majority Christian yet we aren't allies

Individual citizens may be stupid enough to not be able to tell religion apart from the country or citizens, personally I don't care about religion or race, I see the government and country as they are

Poland has many flaws and sometimes it gets annoying with the support for Hungary, but ultimately it's trying to improve

I can't really say the same for Turkey

Maybe once Erdogan is kicked out I can try and rethink what I just said

[tight carbon]

because I would like to watch something about the discovery from the depths, that divers extract something, other such interesting things, natural, fishing, automotive, scientific, most documentaries but not historical, war, political, crime

[manic juniper]

If you know the name of the documentary try sflix, it has most of them and in high quality too just be sure to use an adblocker since it's pointless to navigate in internet without one in 2024

https://sflix.to/

https://sflix.to/tv/free-prehistoric-planet-hd-80854
The show I mentioned, the interface is decent and the videos are high quality

[tight carbon]

I have adblocker and you are not a bot, sorry for asking

[manic juniper]

yes, with flaws

I have no respect for Hungary for example

I believe it should be the first country to be kicked out of the EU

I don't think so

That's just some abstract concept we are looking at

Like I said I don't care about the people, I care about the government more

I've seen enough Turks being racist to Arabs and Kurds, that never influenced my opinion on Turks as a whole, on Turkey, the two things are independent to me

Making a generalisation out of an entire population doesn't help anyone, I don't like your generalisation on Poles

I never did

In fact I said "I saw many racist Turks, it doesn't influence how I see or perceive Turks as a whole"

I met many sexists from many different countries, reacting emotionally and lumping all people of a nation together just because of the most vocal rotten apples doesn't bring anything good to me

If I had to generalise an entire ethnicity because of some bad examples or interactions then no ethnicity would be safe from judgement

Honestly I never thought of these polls as reliable, if you look at the results in the Balkans they're always extremely inconsistent

That's why I don't really care if Turks are the most or the least racist or anything in between

Most polls about Europe don't include Turkey, sometimes not even UK, often not even the West Balkans

This for example, it's one of the most complete and Turkey isn't even there

Again no Turkey

Here it lacks Russia and some Balkan countries too

Sometimes it's annoying to poll people in some countries, that's why UK is missing more and more in the latest polls

Turkey is more present than UK in many recent European polls

Denmark is 100% in Europe unless you mean the Kingdom of Denmark, which is different form Denmark itself

No, it's just annoying to poll

The people that make these polls don't care about racism or anything, but some countries are less accessible, too small or too annoying to poll because they lack or broke agreements (like UK did)

The thing is, those Balkan countries and Turkey had non-EU agreements, they stayed the same, UK broke from the EU so it has to do new ones

[opaque ridge]

Whussup gang

What's the subject

Why is turkey not in eu?

Nah I know why but I said like is it the subject

Ok ok

[umbral girder]

Hello, what happen here ?

[manic juniper]

Do you mean on which side it's tending to?

[blazing solstice]

georgia also not in europe

[manic juniper]

Yes, or at least I hope so but it will take a long time. I believe Georgia and Armenia could too, then it's more difficult but also Azerbaijan, Russia and Belarus

I wonder what will happen to Belarus once Lukashenka dies, he is old now

The last 3 are a personal preference of mine

I would like the non-EU European countries too and the furthest possible to me would be Kazakhstan but not beyond that

For now it's clearly more EU

As it is currently, Turkey is obviously higher but still low

[blazing solstice]

turkey culture is more asia though

[manic juniper]

If all these countries followed the Copenhagen criteria then Turkey would be a more difficult choice than Russia because of its borders

[blazing solstice]

are u russian

[manic juniper]

Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Turkey would have the hardest time joining the EU

[manic juniper]

No

[blazing solstice]

kimi sevmiyoz gayet seviyoruz

tek asyalı afganlar mı sanki

[manic juniper]

Nvm I forgot Armenia borders Iran too

Turkey would be one of the most difficult though because of Syria and Iraq too

The Trinity of Chaos with Iran

Maybe it's never

Honestly I hoped for the West Balkans in the near future

And Moldova since it did many progresses

It's a different matter, those borders are better secured and there aren't as many Russians trying to cross the borders

Same for Belarusians

In fact I believe Belarusians fear more for their own country at the borders than ours

It's more or less the same in the Balkans, there obviously are countries that aren't part of the EU and border the EU. And in fact many complain about illegal Albanian immigrants, but it isn't as big of an issue in scale as immigration from Africa or Asia

UK left the EU also because of this, at least as an excuse on paper. Because France couldn't stop Albanian immigrants on boats crossing from France

Italy too had Albanian immigrants coming on boats through the Adriatic

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/Embed/index.html?webmap=08f2fe8c18b448fcbb17b1ec5188255f&extent=-105.8586,-26.4262,153.7703,75.717&home=true&zoom=true&scale=true&search=true&searchextent=true&legendlayers=true&disable_scroll=true&theme=light

This is an interactive map, Turkey had over 3800, Ukraine had over 4000, Russia only had 52 so far this year

Belarus had 21

Attempted illegal border crossing

Take a look at Morocco too, the Turkey of Africa. Over 4000 detections

Yes I know, I'm showing why borders with Russia and Belarus aren't seen as a big problem

Over 2000 in Algeria, almost 3000 in Tunisia

Egypt isn't a joke either at over 3500

More immigrants attempt to cross borders in the eastern side of the Russia than the western side even

Lmao in Belarus all immigrants tried crossing to Russia

Most of these immigrants in the eastern Mediterranean are Syrian and Afghan

Schengen is too much, not even all EU countries had it and it's only really possible for secured borders

Nah there are also Egyptian and Turkish according to the map

8k Syrian
6k Afghan
2k Egyptian
1k Turkish

Looking at these stats it's very strange

Most of the immigrants that come to Italy from Tunisia are Bangladeshi

[agile rose]

hi how a you?

okk

glad to know you.

[graceful valve]

Thanks , oppa( brother in Chinese)

They have nukes

[manic juniper]

Do you think this is accurate? I think it is

[graceful valve]

Big Nukes

[feral river]

What the hell is this

[manic juniper]

Daily anger poll

How much do you think China has?

[feral river]

Well i think it’s just for fun lol

China ? Idk

Maybe 20-30%?

[manic juniper]

It's accurate

I think Japan should be around 15%

[feral river]

Well I think Turkish people are friendly

[manic juniper]

Yes

[feral river]

I got a Turkish meal in Turkish restaurant in Japan

People are just friendly and their English is so damn good

[manic juniper]

Friendly and angry at the same time

The Balkans too are some of the angriest but the friendliest too

Yes

It's funny

What does he say near the beginning, it's a word that sounds like Saaremaa

55 seconds

He looks like a Turkish hippie or Turkish Jesus

[thorny steeple]

Uh nuu

We get angry a little easily

Yes

[graceful valve]

The future

[thorny steeple]

wtf

His

[graceful valve]

America's

[graceful valve]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

His

Think

What does it mean?

Hm

sadly

Learn how to think

[thorny steeple]

Just think

[feral river]

after that they really think they are big boys who totally forgot how many guns we gave to them to fight against Americans

And invaded our puppet state ruled by Pol Pot

[graceful valve]

Who think they are big boys?

[feral river]

Themselves

[graceful valve]

Vietnamese?

[graceful valve]

It's their fight

You didn't "gave" weapons

You sold them weapons

[feral river]

What we said is dare Americans can invade over the 17th parallel line otherwise we will do as same as we do in Korean War

And they obeyed our rule

[feral river]

So what ? What’s the difference

[graceful valve]

Vietnamese?

[feral river]

Can they buy weapons from Americans ?

[feral river]

Yeah

[graceful valve]

They can buy weapons from Russia

[feral river]

Through us

Lmao

[graceful valve]

Mongol invaded and ruled over China

But, Mongols couldn't rule Vietnam

Who's the big boss?

[feral river]

Then declared themselves as emperor of China

So they became China

Lmao

[graceful valve]

They aren't han Chinese

[feral river]

We are the big boss as always

[graceful valve]

https://tenor.com/view/friendly-gentleman-vietnam-amir-good-fortune-gif-25445435

[feral river]

Who said only Han Chinese can rule China and be China ?

[graceful valve]

This guy alone can defeat 100 han army

[feral river]

What’s the Qing Dynasty then

[feral river]

Then being defeated in Sino-Vietnam war

Destroyed them as we always do and destroy everything

That’s pretty funny

[graceful valve]

Both sides claim victory

You didn't win

[feral river]

I didn’t win because you said you are winning ?

Lmao

Your economy system is being destroyed

But we achieved prosperity after this

Who’s winning then

The great Vietnam dream is also being destroyed like withdrawal from Cambodia

Soviet dream being destroyed too

Who’s winning then

Wanna have a good deal with soviets and invade our puppet, that’s impossible

We don’t give a sh*t to soviets even

Why would we care a place that doesn’t have much people than our one province

[graceful valve]

You are a fake Chinese

[feral river]

You can see what did you just said

[graceful valve]

You don't represent the CCP

[feral river]

You can see what did you just said

Read again, and you will laugh out

[graceful valve]

You are America and Israel Fanboy

[feral river]

Like me 😂

[graceful valve]

Not a true Chinese

[feral river]

True Chinese can’t like America and Israel based on your logic 😂

Doesn’t really make sense

[graceful valve]

It doesn't align with the ccp foreign policies

You are a traitor

I hope ccp re-educate you

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–Israel_relations?wprov=sfti1#Sources

[feral river]

The truth is I’m on vacation to Japan with a CCP member

And we are having a good vacation

[graceful valve]

https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/zxxx_662805/202403/t20240308_11256419.html

Wang Yi is wlong?

*wrong

[feral river]

Not wrong with do business with everyone

That’s state capitalism

Origin from Stalinism

[graceful valve]

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2024-07-24/Wang-Yi-says-China-firmly-supports-the-Palestinian-people-s-just-cause-1vuJrMbkk9O/p.html

[graceful valve]

You are a traitor

You should move to taiwan

Anyway taiwan is part of China

[feral river]

I like this pic

[graceful valve]

I like this more

CCP meeting with Hamas

But, you are traitor

Ccp must put you into camps

To educate you

[feral river]

Hummm I’m sorry ?

[uncut hound]

me, a chinese-vietnamese, observing this shitshow going down:

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-bulborb-stare-what-what-did-you-say-gif-6870026877961454859

[manic juniper]

YOU HAVE ALERTED THE HORDE

[uncut hound]

can we just all agree that china and vietnam are all shitty in their own ways

[manic juniper]

No I like Taiwan

But it isn't perfect

[feral river]

Republic of China ?

[uncut hound]

no i don't mean taiwan

[manic juniper]

Yes

[manic juniper]

Ah you mean the other China 😔👎🏿

[uncut hound]

the taiwanese have completely cut themselves off from being called chinese

they'd be offended if you called them one

[feral river]

But ROC

[manic juniper]

nah it depends

[feral river]

That’s what they said not us

[manic juniper]

I have a Taiwanese friend, she says she is Taiwanese but that they are ethnically Chinese which makes sense

[uncut hound]

true, though the former applies still to a vast majority

[feral river]

They call themselves, ROC

Republic of China

[graceful valve]

Black hand emoji hmmm

[uncut hound]

the taiwanese are ethinically chinese, however they have culturally detached from the mainland.

[graceful valve]

Ethnically Han

[feral river]

We consider every people in Taiwan are ethnically Chinese

[manic juniper]

It's bad if you refer to them as Chinese in nationality, I guess most of them don't like it, but if you're talking about ethnicity it isn't wrong

[graceful valve]

Negrito are the aborigines of Taiwan

[feral river]

Even they immigrated Taiwan from Japan

[manic juniper]

Most of them do too, except the natives of course

[uncut hound]

yeah i meant in nationality, sorry if i was being too vague

[graceful valve]

Han invaded the region 😠

[uncut hound]

never seen this dude, vietnamese?

[manic juniper]

They're not Negritos aren't they? Aren't the Negritos in Philippines?

But yes they are related to Filipinos

[manic juniper]

I like calling Taiwan "China", and calling mainland China "the othet China"

[manic juniper]

It says they are extinct then

[graceful valve]

https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/negritos-celebrated-as-early-taiwan-settlers-idUSTRE4AG16W/

[uncut hound]

i prefer calling them just taiwan and china

[graceful valve]

There is only one China

[uncut hound]

i think it's just silly for westerners to be so bellicose and call china "west taiwan" in a derogatory manner.

[manic juniper]

It's just silly

[uncut hound]

i agree on that point

in a sense, the US is sort of insulated from all of it's actions. the two seas surrounding it make most threats to it devoid in truth

[graceful valve]

Negrito created China

[uncut hound]

...what?

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-bulborb-stare-what-what-did-you-say-gif-6870026877961454859

[manic juniper]

Reptiles created Japan and China

[uncut hound]

WRONG

it's Yakub who created the White Race

[manic juniper]

The dragons they used to worship and pay tributes to were the real creators of those countries

[graceful valve]

She's a Yakubian child

[manic juniper]

China used to be majority reptilian before they allowed mammalian immigrants

[uncut hound]

😆 to be honest it's funny

[uncut hound]

eh?

[manic juniper]

I'm not white 🤢🤮

[graceful valve]

What are you?

[manic juniper]

Antarctic race

[graceful valve]

You look "white"

[uncut hound]

also, you give off major red bull vibes, Deathie

talking a lot of smack next to a three striper

[graceful valve]

What's that?

[uncut hound]

@manic juniper aren't you swedish iirc?

[manic juniper]

Finnish

Most Finns aren't white either but I'm a minority from Antarctica

[uncut hound]

ayyyyy, i have an associate in aalto university

[uncut hound]

do you know of Ville Kallio perchance?

[graceful valve]

Me?

[manic juniper]

Ville Valo?

[uncut hound]

guy who made the cruelty squad game

[manic juniper]

I do not

[uncut hound]

he's also a finn, and reading your bio kind of reminded me of this quote from him in the manner it's delivered

[graceful valve]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/285037855_The_Sami_People_The_White_Indians_of_Scandinavia

[uncut hound]

Is this guy some crazy lunatic or is he trying to hide his level?

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-gif-10587157

[graceful valve]

What?

[manic juniper]

My bio is a description of who I am and what I stand for so people that argue with me keep that in mind

[uncut hound]

[graceful valve]

Iam not a lunatic , my good sir

[manic juniper]

I'm not Sámi

[graceful valve]

I can do cranial measurement on you

[graceful valve]

Okay

[uncut hound]

i have a theory that most finns are so fluent in the english language that they put on a veil of insanity to speak, lest the hearer be confused

i think that's true to be honest

[manic juniper]

It wouldn't work on most modern Sámi, they are too mixed with Scandinavians to the point they're more related to them than to Estonians or us

[manic juniper]

I'm not very fluent when it comes to spoken English

[manic juniper]

I never succeeded in hiding my accent no matter what other language except Swedish

[feral river]

Ahhhhhhhhhh

I don’t wanna come back to China

[uncut hound]

💀

[uncut hound]

which china 🤡

[feral river]

It’s all good in Japan so fit me

[graceful valve]

@versed rain @dapper laurel

[feral river]

Mainland China ofc

[uncut hound]

🤝

[feral river]

I just like this place I stayed here like half of a month

Everything is so great

I love this vacation

[dapper laurel]

The realest thing I saw today

[graceful valve]

I see.
Finns arent Scandinavian whytes?

[manic juniper]

We are not

[uncut hound]

unfortunately i don't think i'll ever visit japan. it's cool to visit and experience it as a tourist, but life's a living hell

[feral river]

You mean Japan ?

[dapper laurel]

🤨

[uncut hound]

yeah

[feral river]

The life in Japan is just so damn good

That was amazing

[manic juniper]

We are Finnic, not Scandinavian

[feral river]

You can easily got whatever you want

[uncut hound]

i'd rather stay in some place like jamaica. seems actually pretty livable with little unrest

[manic juniper]

Our language isn't even Indo-European

[dapper laurel]

It will be the next territory that China will have to conquer

[graceful valve]

Finnish are which race ?
Mongoloid and white mixed ( eurasian) ?

[dapper laurel]

I mean, you Finnish people just look white

[feral river]

🇨🇳❤️🇯🇵

[uncut hound]

britain, the US, the entirety of europe maybe, just doesn't seem to have a lot of safety to be frank

[manic juniper]

You could say that we are, but definitely not Scandinavian

[graceful valve]

You missed or survived the aryan invasion/migration ?

[uncut hound]

oh i'm sure they'll do that as revenge for the uhhhhh less than amicable greetings by the japanese during the second world war

[dapper laurel]

Haven't you partly lost your Mongolian heritage by mixing with the local populations?

[manic juniper]

It's more likely that we replaced them or changed their culture but that's just one of the hypothesis

[manic juniper]

We never were Mongolian, also no we are still more closely related to the Finnic minorities in Russia than to any non-Estonian European

[graceful valve]

Uralid and east europid phenotype looks central Asian like uzbekistan people

[dapper laurel]

I think fenno-nordid is the predominant one

[uncut hound]

is it like a thing for #🧠｜serious-chat to talk race at any possible moment?

[manic juniper]

I'm Fenno-Nordid

[manic juniper]

I don't even think they exist at least according to what I studied

[uncut hound]

like i'm genuinely concerned serious chat is just a massive dumping ground for racial politics

or crazy yakubian hypotheses

[graceful valve]

They have unbanned the word mongoloid

[dapper laurel]

So are you European or not in the end?

[uncut hound]

@graceful valve looking at you right now

[graceful valve]

I see

[manic juniper]

Yet they banned these, how stupid

[manic juniper]

We are European because they are European too for the most part, some of them live in Siberia as well

[dapper laurel]

They want to make us homosexual with this

[graceful valve]

Iam not a racist

[uncut hound]

a yuri fan?

[manic juniper]

No I just like birds and donkeys

[uncut hound]

something tells me that's foreshadowing and you're letting on something bigger in the background

something something

horse girl? 😆

[graceful valve]

A rare case

It's always the "aryan" replacing the natives' culture and language (or syncretism )

[uncut hound]

if i'm being frank with you all, this sounds like a conspicuously disguised reenactment of Disco Elysium's plot

[manic juniper]

I hate horses, I'm pretty sure that if you check my message history it's clear they are the animals I hate the most

[graceful valve]

Mongols also displaced and invaded many steppe-aryans from central asia

[uncut hound]

particularly when Harry DuBois talks with Measurehead

[dapper laurel]

We wuz arianz

[manic juniper]

Aryan in Finnish means slave

[uncut hound]

https://youtu.be/3WuKPVnrGGU

[manic juniper]

Google the etymology of "orja" it means slave in Finnish

[graceful valve]

Means your people subjugated and made them slaves?

[manic juniper]

The etymology comes from Aryan

[dapper laurel]

I actually live in Italy

[manic juniper]

I guess although slavery wasn't even recorded here, but I doubt it didn't exist

[uncut hound]

the turk and the greek living in their apartments in berlin arguing about how superior their race is to the other

[dapper laurel]

True

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-fact-check-true-gif-20427172

[uncut hound]

maybe that applies to you mister gérmon

[dapper laurel]

??

[uncut hound]

[dapper laurel]

🤨

Well well well

Well³

[uncut hound]

Well Squared

Well Cubed!

[dapper laurel]

(well)³

[oblique galleon]

Yo dawgs

Whats poppin?

[uncut hound]

🪨 🪨 🪨
🪨🌊 🪨
🪨🪨🪨

[dapper laurel]

Gut gut gut

[uncut hound]

is language translatable to higher dimesions?

[dapper laurel]

Well × well × well

[uncut hound]

since text is 2d, how would it look to a 4-dimesional being?

[dapper laurel]

You wrote it in such a way that it looks like multiplication

[manic juniper]

Yes, birds did that

[dapper laurel]

Because the x is sometimes omitted

[uncut hound]

huh?

[dapper laurel]

(well)(well)(well)

[manic juniper]

They can make two sounds at once unlike us with our vocal chords

Kurgan

[graceful valve]

What steppe-aryan Or sinthasta people might have looked like

[dapper laurel]

Well well well

[uncut hound]

god this is such a 4-chan -esque quote.

[graceful valve]

I think some turks do have steppe-aryan Or sinthasta ancestry

[uncut hound]

are you even a vietnamese at this point?

[graceful valve]

I might be wrong

[dapper laurel]

@feral river

@unique light

[manic juniper]

Extinct population

[uncut hound]

i think i stumbled upon one of those really old gaming forums in vietnam's not-so-distant past of 2000, really nostalgic

[dapper laurel]

Andós(Italy mainland)

[feral river]

Who is the other guy kissing Israel

[uncut hound]

✅ THIS HAS BEEN CHECKED BY REAL FINNISH PATRIOTS ✅

[dapper laurel]

The arab version of Israel

[feral river]

Yeah I guess

[graceful valve]

Never really extinct

[dapper laurel]

I thank god that I was not born in Sicily

[dapper laurel]

Or Sardinia

[manic juniper]

The culture is, the people became something else

[graceful valve]

Kazakhs and even some Indian have sinthasta ancestry

[graceful valve]

Okay

Right

[manic juniper]

I'm not really a patriot or a nationalist for my country

I don't support countries whose majority in power is non-reptilian

[uncut hound]

to be fair i don't think finland has a lot of things to be proud of. it's good living but i cannot think of anything that someone could praise

well, at least you have a lot of good artists online?

[manic juniper]

Do you mean our history or culture? Our biggest nationalists weren't even ethnic Finns

[uncut hound]

no i mean in general

[manic juniper]

They were Swedish Fennomans

[dapper laurel]

Atatürk

Atatruk

[manic juniper]

Like? Food?

[uncut hound]

are you a reptilian?

[manic juniper]

Nope, I'm a servant

If I was a reptilian I'd try to infiltrate human politics directly and sabotage them from the inside

[dapper laurel]

I really appreciate him as a leader, he reminds me of an Italian leader

[uncut hound]

all aspects, can't really think of something that could be praiseworthy to be straight with you. seems like desolate snow for miles on end.

[dapper laurel]

Not sussolini

[manic juniper]

We have a lot of forest coverage, the highest in Europe

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[manic juniper]

71% which is decent

I don't like how flat the country is

[dapper laurel]

What about the rest of the population? Kurds?

[feral river]

you mean Turkish ?

Or Syrian ? Iranian ? Armenian ?

[graceful valve]

There's a theory that Buddha was a scythian sage

[feral river]

I don’t know what is Kurd

[manic juniper]

Ethnicity related to Persians

[feral river]

So that’s Iranian

[dapper laurel]

Who doesn't like him?

[manic juniper]

They are Iranian or Iranic yes

There is a province of Iran called Kurdistan or Kordistan

[graceful valve]

There's three groups of iranian

Persian, parthian and kurds

[dapper laurel]

Religious people in Turkey are a burden then

[graceful valve]

If iam not wrong

[dapper laurel]

A non-Turkish people living in Türkiye, I think strongly linked to the Persians and partly to the Arabs

[inland hedge]

Where have you gotten this percentage?

[uncut hound]

from the turks (in berlin)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981728643887800320/1252112093059092682/1718376671696927.gif

[manic juniper]

Too low, that would be 100% from them

[dapper laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Garibaldi Atatürk reminds me of him

[uncut hound]

ahhhhhhhh that symbol

[feral river]

Do they have Turkish nationality ?

[uncut hound]

i need you to autodefenestrate NOW!

[dapper laurel]

Are we so back?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[feral river]

So they are Turkish

[inland hedge]

lol

[manic juniper]

They exist in Iraq, Syria and Iran too

And yes they are Turkish in nationality

[inland hedge]

I'd be thrilled if you can provide me the source

[dapper laurel]

Of course, but a fraction of them don't identify as Turk

[uncut hound]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[inland hedge]

😭

[manic juniper]

None of them thinks of themselves as ethnically Turkish

It'd be like a Swedish speaker saying they identify as ethnic Finns

When they can't say anything besides minä olen Sven

He was both

[dapper laurel]

Is Åland a Swedish territory ethnically?

[manic juniper]

It's Finnish, but ethnically Swedish

[uncut hound]

seriously speaking, i'd actually like to see a nation formed by brazilians in the far future. a space braziltugalese colony.

[manic juniper]

Sweden failed to protect Åland and to guarantee for its defence against hostile parties in the Baltic Sea

[uncut hound]

i think one game has done that already

[dapper laurel]

I had a friend in elementary school whose mother was from there

[manic juniper]

It's a strange region but I like it

Unfortunately it's the only 80%+ Swedish region left

[dapper laurel]

Not so sigma then

[inland hedge]

I'll appreciate it you read it throughly, that article says nothing about "how many turks love atatürk"

It says "who is the most influential leader of turkish republic history?"

[uncut hound]

isfrun i give you full priority to extirpate this man IMMEDIATELY

[manic juniper]

Which one

[uncut hound]

andosweher

[graceful valve]

Sigma balls 🏀⚽🏈

[inland hedge]

And note that people supporting other ruling systems other than a republic grow quickly within Turkiye, meaning there's already a strong opposition against Atatürk and his beliefs

[dapper laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-Sternberg Mentally I feel like him now

[manic juniper]

Is it because of the terminology? We must redeem the Greek alphabet

[uncut hound]

Σ🎱

[inland hedge]

That link sadly does not load for me, must be a problem on my end

[dapper laurel]

Nooooooooooooooooo

[manic juniper]

ΜΙΝΩΤΑVRΟS

[uncut hound]

reminds me of the situation where the british aristocrats who joined up to help the greek rebel from the turks had such a moment of cultural whiplash that they left no so long after

[inland hedge]

No one said anything about changing secularity, and I think you have to chill out making such assumptions

Disliking someone does not require you to be their "anti"

[uncut hound]

the british had been taught about the classical greeks, taught greek in the antecedent tongue of old greek, that they had ignored the cultural changes done upon the greeks by the turks

[uncut hound]

when one of them delivered a recitement of one of the classical greek poems, most of them said that they couldn't understand what he was saying.

[inland hedge]

The blatant assumption of "ah yes there are already %70 percentage of Turkish people loving Atatürk" is a blinded and biased statement

[dapper laurel]

The logical flaws that I write in the class assignment be like

[inland hedge]

lol

[manic juniper]

Did you know that most modern Greeks can understand the Bible from year 300 without problems? Or most documents from that time for the matter

[uncut hound]

so can the icelandics

[inland hedge]

The statement "people supporting other ruling systems other than a republic grow quickly within Turkiye" is not equal to "people want sharia"

[graceful valve]

Get ready for the new world order

[manic juniper]

To an extent, Greek seems to have changed less

[dapper laurel]

What does this mean? 🤔🤔🤔

[uncut hound]

if it's to be believed, you don't even write the essays nowadays and instead delegate that task to GPTs

[manic juniper]

I can't understand my own language from 1200 or so because it changed too much

[dapper laurel]

Naah, I usually have to do it in class and I can't use the phone

[storm bison]

just another theory from making news guys

[uncut hound]

oh that's good then

[inland hedge]

It changes the percentages and the opposition against Atatürk, which also means one cannot make the blatant assumption "%70 of Turkish people love Atatürk!"

[uncut hound]

arghhhhhhh

[inland hedge]

Without no solid evidence

[graceful valve]

Blonde woman used to be the beauty standard , it won't be anymore in the future

[dapper laurel]

Typically I have to do it during religion class lol, my language teacher gives me homework

[uncut hound]

to be honest i'm pretty sure asia will have the inverse of that in the future to balance it all out

[manic juniper]

But blonde women already are a beauty standard in China

[dapper laurel]

I understood it, I just wanted to have a little vril moment

[inland hedge]

You're also wrong there, "leftists" in Türkiye love Atatürk and percieve him also to be a leftist which in case he stood against the rightism and leftism during his time .

His ideals are mislead and used for other purposes, he hated communism.

[manic juniper]

My aunt was a model in China and they didn't change her hair, if anything they tried to make them brighter

[inland hedge]

Yes and yet you provide me with a "who's more influential" survey rather a "how much is atatürk loved"

[dapper laurel]

But I don't think that Chinese women can become an ideal of beauty, at least I don't like them

[manic juniper]

The only thing they tried to exalt more was the usual thin mantis-like face shape they love there

[uncut hound]

we don't care.

others will

[inland hedge]

No one called you a communist and your sentences actually make no sense

Even though I read them for like 5 times

[manic juniper]

Why are Japanese women automatically considered more beautiful just because they speak Japanese

And same with Koreans

[inland hedge]

cause they're beautiful smh😭

[manic juniper]

I mean why them and not Chinese that live not far from those countries

[inland hedge]

I remember stating the link does not open for me pal

[manic juniper]

And that will look more or less similar

[storm bison]

where did you read this

[uncut hound]

i like to interpret all communists as having read disco elysium and read the book it was based off of, but they absolutely missed the part why kraz mazov's communist revolution failed

[dapper laurel]

Aaah, you china

[inland hedge]

You claimed you aren't a communist responding to a sentence in which I did NOT accuse you of being a communist

[uncut hound]

mixed nationality

[manic juniper]

Nowhere, but from personal experience people like Japanese people more just because of their nationality even if they look ambiguously Chinese

[inland hedge]

Chinese women are beautiful too

[dapper laurel]

Which? If I may ask

[inland hedge]

And so are the Koreans

[manic juniper]

I agree, I'm just wondering

[inland hedge]

They all look beautiful

[dapper laurel]

I'm a mix too

[manic juniper]

Koreans suffer the same fate of Japanese people, they're considered more beautiful just because of their nationality

[uncut hound]

westoids go shopping for wives and husbands in asia, of course they'll see the highly prestigious japanese race and fawn over it.

[inland hedge]

Ah well assuming someone's beautiful just because they're apart of this ethnic group and that seems baseless to me

[storm bison]

i think that's not equal for everyone

[uncut hound]

fortunately for you, the westoids are british and american in nature.

[manic juniper]

I didn't say it was like that for everyone but so many people tell me that

[uncut hound]

you euronoids are something else entirely and thus deviod of any prior preconceptions that i would normally have

[inland hedge]

Once again pal, I know Turkish

That survey is about "are you happy about the changes and reforms ataturk did" not "do you love ataturk"

[storm bison]

woah, now i understand you

[inland hedge]

You give me complete irrelevant sources

[manic juniper]

There was this extremely funny gif of Atatürk but I lost it

https://tenor.com/view/atatürk-gif-13184194634322749066

[uncut hound]

if you stay in serious chat, you'll actually see your english improve a lot if you're a beginner (or at least, from what i have observed)

[manic juniper]

THIS

Yes, it's extremely serious for no good reason at all, and the timing is perfect

[uncut hound]

why is he staring into the distance for no discernable purpose other than theatrics?

[uncut hound]

i think most people have a fetish with looking emptily into the distance just for some phantom camera to take shots of them.

[storm bison]

thank you. Yes, i'm beginner

[dapper laurel]

The "westoids"invented literally everything you know, pal

[uncut hound]

those kinds of people aren't the westoids that i'd usually associate with.

[manic juniper]

They took the flying reindeers away from us

[inland hedge]

Exactly, if you can't find the evidence for your claims, then don't claim them either👍

[uncut hound]

they're a different race altogether

[manic juniper]

I also make fun of my ancestors, I think it's an healthy thing to do

Besides I sent that gif in a Turkish server and people loved it

[dapper laurel]

So what are they for you?

[manic juniper]

It's a meme from Attack On Titan

[uncut hound]

the hyperborean generation took the foundations of this world with them when they returned to their homeland, and we're all just slowly sliding back into the oceans to be subsumed under the waves by the atlanteans

[graceful valve]

Already there are white people with yellow fever.
It won't be that hard for black haired Asian slanted eyes cuties to become the standard of beauty , especially with the soft power and influence that comes with being the top economic power and a super power

[inland hedge]

From where did you get that proverb "dont eat too much popcorn"?

This guy shits new words every second

[manic juniper]

How is it disrespectful, the meme isn't insulting him in any way, it's a meme about Attack On Titan

[uncut hound]

if you're taking it seriously, i'm talking geezahs from britain and pensioners looking to decimate the local economy.

[dapper laurel]

They're watching you

[uncut hound]

most of you i wouldnt consider as such in truth

[inland hedge]

Yes and how would it affect my views on Atatürk and general beliefs on Türkiye lmao?

[graceful valve]

That's wrong

[manic juniper]

I hope it's true

[inland hedge]

Yes and how?

[uncut hound]

what's so wrong of it? we revere them so much only to ignore their faults?

[graceful valve]

Ancestor worship is based

[manic juniper]

I'm aware, I sent the meme on a server and no one got offended, it was like 99% Turkish or Azerbaijani

[inland hedge]

"eating popcorn would make you hate atatürk!"

Smartest kemalist claim?

[dapper laurel]

The British did nothing wrong

[uncut hound]

https://tenor.com/view/moai-gif-26053620

[uncut hound]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-bulborb-stare-what-what-did-you-say-gif-6870026877961454859

[inland hedge]

I'm sure it wouldn't make me hate atatürk pal😭

[dapper laurel]

I think, so why hate them?

[graceful valve]

You can criticize their actions but dont disrespect them

[manic juniper]

If my descendants don't also make fun of me I don't consider it ancestor worship because it's against the Finnish mentality

[uncut hound]

that claim- i will contest it

[inland hedge]

Neither do I praise him or hate him to the bone

I dislike some things that he changed within the country

[uncut hound]

making fun of them doesn't mean disrespecting them. the purpose is to bring a sense of normalcy and even joviality to such a moribund topic.

[uncut hound]

see the day of the dead in mexico

it's a coping mechanism

copium is in the air, whether you like it or not

[manic juniper]

Yes, I'm pretty sure that Kalevi was in stark contrast with the seriousness and gloominess of his greatest enemy Louhi

[graceful valve]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_fetish

[uncut hound]

huh?

[inland hedge]

Simple, bringing over-praised democracy in a blink of an eye to a folk that was ruled by semi-constitutional monarchy for centuries

We see the affects of separation of minorities and majorities even nowadays, he couldn't analyze his own people, he just brought whatever "he" saw required

[dapper laurel]

Eww

[manic juniper]

My ancestor Kalevi would've liked to be made fun of, at least in a respectful way

Kalevi the giant king

[graceful valve]

The future standard of global beauty
(Ignore the fake blonde)

[inland hedge]

That's not my point

[uncut hound]

race-mixxing until the whites fuck themselves out of existence and are succeeded by a euro-asiatic race

[inland hedge]

Re-read the sentence

[dapper laurel]

Wtf

[uncut hound]

TRUE asian beliefs, my friend

[manic juniper]

I would only race mix with Balts

[dapper laurel]

Me too

[uncut hound]

yakub may have created you, but we, the extraterrestrial Asiatic races, are the true masters of this dirtball

[graceful valve]

That's what the Mongols did to the West eurasian steppe Aryan peoe

[dapper laurel]

Lithuanian girls are simply beautiful

[manic juniper]

He was a dictator by definition, his goal was to help in the transition to democracy, but he was a dictator nonetheless

[inland hedge]

The point once again is, that did no good to us in any way.

Throughout the Turkic history, democracy/votings/elections was surely used however it was limited
If you bring everything you saw off of the French revolution to people who are still evolving in means of internal reforms and politics, you bring them their doom

[manic juniper]

Dictator doesn't necessarily mean bad

[graceful valve]

Now, look at central Asian people.
They are Mongoloid with caucasian features

[manic juniper]

Nah it just describes the power model

[dapper laurel]

Caesar was a dictator, he wasn't bad at all

[inland hedge]

Dictatorship isn't bad if the leader is competent

[uncut hound]

the connotation that the word "dictator" brings is overwhelmingly negative because most dictators are bad at their jobs. i petition that we only get good dictators and not nepo babies.

[inland hedge]

Good thing you don't support absolute democracy for us Turks, kemalists seem to be blatantly supporting it

Mhm

[dapper laurel]

Hyperboreans🫱🏻‍🫲🏼asianborea

[uncut hound]

no we don't deal with any of that wypipo steaming hot, absolutely stinking dimesion

[dapper laurel]

Sory bro

[inland hedge]

Democracy is just a way of overglorifying the thoughts of the majorities (even if wrong) and giving less to the minorities
That is why every election period Turks go under eternal doom economically or socioeconomically

After all, you (Atatürk) brought democracy to a folk who lived under Monarchies and Authoritarian regimes in a blink of an eye

[uncut hound]

there's no hyperborea, we just respawn - retirement after death is cringe

[inland hedge]

Which is why we are still not used to it

[uncut hound]

you WILL stay in the cycle of samsara

and you will NEVER obtain nirvana

[dapper laurel]

@inland hedge are you a soldier?

[inland hedge]

My ideal way of ruling Türkiye would be returning back to our old roots and doing so like England does, contitutional monarchy

[graceful valve]

Samsara is nirvana

[inland hedge]

I'm in the National Defense college

[graceful valve]

And nirvana is samsara

[dapper laurel]

What is this?

[graceful valve]

There is no difference between the two

[inland hedge]

A college of the Ministry of Defense in Türkiye, you graduate as an officer after taking it

[dapper laurel]

We have a similar thing in Italy, however congratulations it's not easy to get in

[manic juniper]

Constitutional monarchy is a standard parliamentary democracy with a fancy skin on it lol what's even the point of bringing it back?

[uncut hound]

just for fun, anyone wants to see something i've been working on while talking here?

[inland hedge]

I mean either militarism or constitutional monarchy

A folk separated from it's tradition and uncontrolled is why we have most of the problems within Türkiye

[manic juniper]

If you take a look at Sweden, UK, Norway, Denmark, Spain they literally are just normal parliamentary republics with a fancy monarchic skin on

[dapper laurel]

We need absolute monarchy

[inland hedge]

The real power lies with the Monarch in England even though it's interpreted as their whole role is ceremonial

A country with Monarchy or alike systems stand with their tradition

[manic juniper]

Using UK as an example is wrong, I think Morocco is closer to his idea of monarchy

[uncut hound]

it's to have fancy tourist money in the case of britain, so i'd argue it goes further than just a skin

[inland hedge]

Our imperial family was expelled from the country just like how bolsheviks erased the Russian Imperial family

When the Republic was founded

[uncut hound]

though, that's the angloid's stuff, i dont think it speaks for anyone here

[manic juniper]

The monarch isn't even really theirs, the family has German origins and mixed around for centuries, they're nothing special

[graceful valve]

The Future of europe

[full zephyr]

Hello Isfrun.

Where are you from?

[inland hedge]

Ethnic roots don't usually affect the traditions they go by

There are traditions that english monarchy still goes by for centuries

[manic juniper]

It's little more than a skin most of the times

[graceful valve]

Angloid is a slur

[uncut hound]

you know how dune predicted that in the future we would have diluted our genes so much that nearly everyone would have fair skin instead of the extremities?

[manic juniper]

They can hold those traditions without being involved in politics

[uncut hound]

🤓

look at you with your buckteeth

you're looking like a bucky's mascot right now

[graceful valve]

I don't have buckteeth

[inland hedge]

Tradition is to keep the folk in one piece, nowadays under the Republican regime of Türkiye, everyone is separated

[graceful valve]

Angloid is very offensive

[uncut hound]

this' you?

[graceful valve]

Rude

[inland hedge]

The values that were meant to go for each and every single ethnic group that lived under the Ottomans are forgotten, hence is why we have the Kurdish problem and other ethnicities revolting within our country

You can't just say "everyone wo lives under the Turkish flag is Turkish"
That will be percieved as fascism and so it is

That was not what kept us all together and strong for centuries

[manic juniper]

Most monarchs can't even behave, Spain's, Norway's and Morocco's are examples of that. I don't understand why you'd have an hereditary-selected person that is supposed to act as the face of a country when they could very well lack all the responsibilities that come with it

[inland hedge]

If in means of the betterment of this country, yes

[manic juniper]

They are Turkish, just not Turks

[uncut hound]

power corrupts absolutely.

[manic juniper]

Nationality is different from ethnicity

[inland hedge]

No one is taking royalties who don't know how to behave as an example

[manic juniper]

Most of them are like that rather than being good example, the current monarch of Sweden is absolutely unserious and funny, he is a good king because he doesn't take himself seriously

[inland hedge]

And to note it down, I never said I supported absolute monarchy

[manic juniper]

I don't think it makes sense to re-establish a monarchy after this much time, are the ottoman descendants even alive?

[inland hedge]

Within the Ottoman era, there was Sadrazams (Prime Minister alikes) who were also in power of the state to ensure the Sultans were doing their duties correctly, they also assisted them

In absolute monarchies, the problems you mention may occur

No one said I'm an Ottomanist

Your assumptions are just out of the window

Nor have I said I was disgusted by Atatürk's name

This is what you guys do in Türkiye

Everyone who criticizes Atatürk are labelled as anti-kemalists

This is your view of politics

[manic juniper]

Only an elective constitutional monarchy would make sense but... That's just a standard parliamentary republic with extra steps, and it was never done before

[inland hedge]

You cannot enjoy a debate without assuming I must hate Atatürk to the core if I'm criticizing him

[inland hedge]

Yes they do, but due to them being expelled by the Republican government to Europe, they think of themselves as European origin rich families

Such a democracy to silence and expel a family

Isn't it @versed rain?

Since you support a humanitarian freedom fueled ruling system

Why did your system expel the ottoman imperial family where they would forget their roots

The problem is the system you support was created off of individual benefits

[manic juniper]

So what's the solution? To elect the new monarchs? That would be a parliamentary republic with a permanent prime minister

[inland hedge]

Atatürk was a dictator, but the defense is "it was needed to establish democracy and the republic"

[manic juniper]

The current system isn't bad, it's a thing that existed in Europe long ago. Poland and Novgorod for example

[inland hedge]

No one's saying to bring the Ottoman Imperial Family back and let them rule

I'm criticizing the inhumane treatment they faced

[uncut hound]

anyone here who watches Deutsche Welles by chance?

[inland hedge]

Well, Atatürk could do that too since he was a dictator? What's your point

[manic juniper]

You mean constitutional monarchy?

Turkey as a parliamentary republic would improve

[inland hedge]

There is a reason to take control of the ethnic groups within Türkiye once again, and that is only via tradition and the values we stood for

If the Republican regime did not try and label Kurds as Turks, we'd not have Kurdish guerillas killing our people

And so for the Armenians

What's your point rn