🧠｜serious-chat

[glass dragon]

Oni jann?

Yes 🥁 , oni chan

[feral river]

that was Japanese 🤣 not Chinese

[glass dragon]

Oni jann is Chinese and Oni chan is Japanese

[glass dragon]

Okay, oni jaan

[feral river]

no!

[sleek badger]

Nop

[feral river]

Oni jann is Japanese, Oni chan is incorrect Japanese

[glass dragon]

Are you a China man or a China woman?

[feral river]

I'm a man bro

[glass dragon]

Okay, oni chan

[sleek badger]

Jan Oni is perfect

[glass dragon]

Okay, oni jaan

[feral river]

🙃

[sleek badger]

Jan oni

[feral river]

call whatever you like

[glass dragon]

Why you have anime girl photo, oni chan

[sleek badger]

Jan Oni*

[glass dragon]

Hello, dude with yellow fever

[sleek badger]

No fever
Just Chinese fever

[sleek badger]

How are you Jan Oni?

[glass dragon]

@feral river

She is Chinese 🇨🇳

[glass dragon]

I'am very good, oni chan

[sleek badger]

Jan Oni*
Gtk

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*She

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[manic juniper]

?

[glass dragon]

*She

[sleek badger]

He*

[glass dragon]

Stop misgendering our China woman 👩

[sleek badger]

He*

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*She

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[manic juniper]

Hän*

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[glass dragon]

What's that

[sleek badger]

He

[manic juniper]

He/she/they (singular)

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She*

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Hän*

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Hän*

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Hän Chinese*

Hän*

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He Chinese*

[glass dragon]

She chinawoman*

[sleek badger]

Common

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Hän*

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Give up

[sleek badger]

@feral river

Where are you?

[glass dragon]

@feral river Oni Jan

[static pivot]

@sleek badger @glass dragon stop

don't pollute serious chat

[sleek badger]

Okay

[glass dragon]

Sorry girl

[sleek badger]

Bro he's boy

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/swankaids-aidan-uni-cat-explosion-gif-13067557236003860591

[feral river]

what the hell

what just happened

[sage dock]

whats china mainland??

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_China

[desert nebula]

It's my first time hearing about this company lol no worries. I rarely take any medicine in my life

Thanks for caring about Palestine 🥺

[brittle quest]

Hey

[thorny steeple]

Hiii

[brittle quest]

Wassup moon

[thorny steeple]

Nothing much buddy wbu??

[turbid seal]

duck you

[spiral mango]

hi sup

[true lark]

What's the serious topic right now?

[unique light]

Conflicts, pretty much

We can discuss the Russian invasion of Ukraine if you want

[dapper laurel]

Free Palpatine

[thorny steeple]

In my opinion, It's positive for other countries

[unique light]

💪🏻 🇵🇸

😅

[unique light]

What do you mean by saying "Positive"?

How do you mean?

[dapper laurel]

💪🏾🇵🇸*

[unique light]

You're right!

[manic juniper]

No he is evil, he turned Anakin to the Dark Side

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-you-kiss-kisses-blowing-kisses-blow-kisses-gif-1919748813845257400

[unique light]

Bruv...

That's horrible

[thorny steeple]

The Russia-Ukraine war benefits the United States and also enhances Europe's military capabilities, while uniting them further.

[manic juniper]

🦾🇪🇭

[unique light]

Not true at all

[dapper laurel]

Yes, that's what I thought

[unique light]

Based Isfrun

[dapper laurel]

The copy of Palestine from China

[thorny steeple]

Currently, the casualties in the Russia-Ukraine war are only among Ukrainians and Russians.

[manic juniper]

Isn't that bad

[unique light]

Because NATO and the U.S. don't want to send their troops to fight there

[thorny steeple]

That's the crux of it. Russia does not want a full-scale confrontation with NATO, and NATO also does not desire such a conflict.

[unique light]

And Europe doesn't benefit from the ongoing invasion of Ukraine, our prices are getting higher, loads of refugees are coming to Europe looking for a new country to live in, how come all of this is beneficial?

[manic juniper]

Oil, grain and wheat prices are higher

[unique light]

The prices are getting higher every day, our wages don't

[thorny steeple]

For a while, Europe had been reducing its military capabilities and focusing too much on welfare. As a result, it faced numerous refugee issues and unnecessary problems. However, this event will tighten all budgets, making it realize where it should focus

[unique light]

You sound like ChatGPT 🙂

[thorny steeple]

I'm using it now

[unique light]

Well, it shows

[thorny steeple]

as translator

[unique light]

Your English is too perfect to be true

[thorny steeple]

My sentence is perfect in my language

[unique light]

I understand, but the point of this server is to improve your English. We can discuss the conflict in DMs if you want to

Ahh lads 🥴

"The EU's Blind Eye"

[true lark]

I hope its them taking the opposing stance to create q proper environment for debate that is nontoxic

[unique light]

The Irish mainly stand with Palestine, I've never seen a single one who supports Israel, to be honest

[thorny steeple]

Palestine issue is too complex

[finite flint]

real

[unique light]

Israel allowed the attack to happen to create an excuse to invade Gaza, but the main problem of this conflict is Hamas, who've started the invasion of Israel. If they wouldn't have invaded, people of Gaza wouldn't be suffering that much now.

[thorny steeple]

I agree with you.

But there are many uneducated people in GAZA. They don't know how to act.

[unique light]

You might see many uneducated people here as well, like this lad

There's never a reason to invade a country according to the UN Resolution 3314

Any country, doesn't matter where it's located

[thorny steeple]

Hamas deceived their people and it was too easy to do that.

I believe terrorists ultimately emerge when education is not properly implemented.

[bronze grove]

most of the terrorist are uneducated

it is easy to manipulate them

[night cedar]

true

[thorny steeple]

I think so.

So I don't think it's right for Europe to indiscriminately accept refugees.

[bronze grove]

yeah otherwise next france is coming

[thorny steeple]

France has already being fuucked

[tulip gazelle]

France has more issue than migrants, they destroy national languages to centralize everything and repress local dialects

Hard to find Walon and Picard or even Occitan speakers

[bronze grove]

let's goo it's time to oppress the one who oppress the world

[night cedar]

now europe is messed up

[night cedar]

lmao true

[tulip gazelle]

Wouldn't that be British

[bronze grove]

french too
to are brutal in africa

[tulip gazelle]

So was Belgium and Portugal

[bronze grove]

🤝 so yeah time is changing mate

they all get oppressed soon

[tulip gazelle]

But also i don't like blaming all problems on old rulers if new rulers still do same thing to own people doesnt solve actual issue

[tulip gazelle]

Probably not they make up 98% of their countries populations still

[bronze grove]

nah i think their are more native than outsiders

and if their are outsider
mostly they are whites .

[tulip gazelle]

In europe? Europe is white continent

[bronze grove]

yeah i was talking about the europe

[wintry oxide]

What does white continent mean?

[tulip gazelle]

The people indigenous there are white

[wintry oxide]

Ah ok white people in there

[tulip gazelle]

Even in high migrant countries its something like 96% the native population migrant crisis is usually overblown

The migrants usually try to go to specific countries not all of europe though

[thorny steeple]

Political correctness isn't correct

ello

[tulip gazelle]

No one is politically correct in europe not sure what you mean

Sounds like america issue

[tulip gazelle]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

wassup

[tulip gazelle]

I'm listening to Mihaszna by Ekhoe and Pogány Induló

[thorny steeple]

nice

[tulip gazelle]

Is there topic you want to discuss

[thorny steeple]

I don't understand why countries in Europe prioritize outsiders over their own citizens.

[tulip gazelle]

They don't I'm not sure who told you that

[tulip gazelle]

З якой краї'ны сьте?

[thorny steeple]

What?

[tulip gazelle]

What country are you from

[thorny steeple]

Korea

[tulip gazelle]

Oh, well, European country usually prioritizes it people over outsiders, France is rather strixt with migrants, most migrants leave south europe north due to racism, none go to central or east europe beside maybe Swiss and Germany or Sweden

But even then Balkan people from Europe make up more populations there than migrants

[thorny steeple]

I just don't understand why they don't control refugees.

[tulip gazelle]

They do, UN requires you to accept refugees but you need to prove you're refugee to be accepted

[vagrant swan]

yo

i got a question

[tulip gazelle]

Hello

[rancid elbow]

What's good, anime boy

Or girl

[vagrant swan]

what do you guys think about Merih Demiral being punished for making the gray wolf sign in UEFA?

[thorny steeple]

What I mean is, I don't understand why they keep letting refugees into their country without proper control. If it were our country, we would have expelled them the moment we couldn't control the situation.

[vagrant swan]

my pfp is girl

[rancid elbow]

Kaykay

[tulip gazelle]

What?

[vagrant swan]

euro 2024 football matches

[thorny steeple]

I didn't catch it

[tulip gazelle]

Human rights

[rancid elbow]

No idea who that person is

[tulip gazelle]

Not sure, I'm not Turkish and we never got taught about Turkish politics ever

[vagrant swan]

a football player

[thorny steeple]

I understand that human rights are important, but they cannot take precedence over the welfare of one's own citizens.

[tulip gazelle]

They don't though

Refugees make a tiny portion of the actual population it isn't uncontroll

[unique light]

I'm listening to "The Temple Of The King" right now

I'm more of a metal guy, but I decided to listen to some classy rock today

[tulip gazelle]

Nice i like Тінь Сонця & Скрябін for metal and Rock

[rancid elbow]

I have never played soccer in my life. Before somebody runs to talk sh!t, yes, I do exist, I am very real

[unique light]

Скрябін isn't anywhere close to metal or rock

[tulip gazelle]

He's rock

He sings in Galician dialect to

[vagrant swan]

you must be that "one"

[rancid elbow]

Huh?

[thorny steeple]

@tulip gazelleAre you Ukrainian?

[tulip gazelle]

American?

[tulip gazelle]

Rusyn

But i have family in Galicia too so i guess Rusyn and Galician Ukrainian

[rancid elbow]

Nope, but am going to depart there in this month

[tulip gazelle]

I thought only usa say soccer

[unique light]

We say soccer in Ireland

[tulip gazelle]

Oh nice it's fun to oppose British

[rancid elbow]

Canadians also commonly use it

[tulip gazelle]

Do you say laser or lazer i like how lazer look and sound

[unique light]

Not really to oppose them, but there's Gaelic Football and Football which is soccer

[true lark]

I use it to make sure the Americans know what I'm saying

[tulip gazelle]

Ohh okay that's pretty interest to me

[versed rain]

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[rancid elbow]

I spell it like 'laser' and pronounce it as 'lazer'

[vagrant swan]

hell nah

[unique light]

Do you speak Hungarian?

[vagrant swan]

dawg why do u think about this one @versed rain

[vagrant swan]

.

[unique light]

Dawg 🥴

[rancid elbow]

I thought everybody knows what soccer is lol

[true lark]

Soccer yes, but when you say football Americans sometimes think you mean their American football

[tulip gazelle]

I learn it because i have magyar family, but it not my 1st language

[rancid elbow]

Oh yeah

[unique light]

So what languages do you speak then?

[versed rain]

are u turkish and where are u from?

[tulip gazelle]

Rusyn, okay Polish, Ukrainian, a little Belarusian, some english and a little magyar

[vagrant swan]

from universe , cant say nothing much

[versed rain]

turkey?

[rancid elbow]

Lmao

[versed rain]

I see Turkey very alone. Because of the constant exclusion of Europe, it has always had to deal with the East, and Europe does not want that.

[vagrant swan]

yeah

especially germany and austria

[rancid elbow]

Why are ya so down bad to deanonymize my girl?

[tulip gazelle]

They kept trying to invade Europe, Hungary and Poland stop them everytime

[versed rain]

So he asked me why I thought that. It would be a nicer thing for me if he or she was from Europe.

[versed rain]

All countries have invaded each other.

[unique light]

What do you think of Russia?

[tulip gazelle]

Turkey not really seen as European to us but invader

[versed rain]

Why?

😦

[tulip gazelle]

Not a fan of country or society, but some people are decent. But many have big country and empire view, I don't have best experience with them interaction

They think Rusyn are Russian

[versed rain]

But why do you see it as an invader?

[unique light]

No one really cares what Russians think of someone or something, honestly

[tulip gazelle]

They invaded europe and sold european as slave in army as kids and forced islam on people

[thorny steeple]

Turkey is just a cute country

[rancid elbow]

As always, whoever wins a war, becomes justice, and winners decide what's wrong and right

[versed rain]

They have always told us that we should be proud to offer an environment where people can practice their religion freely. They taught that women and children were never harmed and that they were forbidden to use them as slaves.

[tulip gazelle]

When you told you identity does not exist and you are bigger nation it's rude and annoying especially when it only narrative people believe, ukraine government does it to rusyns too

[tulip gazelle]

That's not true though, janissary were abducted as kid and made eunuch ripped from family and parent and to get along in society you had to muslim from christian

[versed rain]

The Janissaries were used only as an exchange of troops to achieve assimilation in the newly occupied territories. There was no castration.

[vagrant swan]

???

[tulip gazelle]

Achieve assimilation, how you think assimilation worked

They were abducted as kids from family and made warrior slave

[vagrant swan]

then wouldn't all empires in world history be considered invaders?

[tulip gazelle]

Yes, but that why we dont consider turkey europe

Different religion, culture and history from rest of europe

[versed rain]

There is no custom among Turks to separate children from the family. They think that one should never interfere in the family. Assimilation is seen only as a commonality of culture. If this were not the case, only Turks would live in the Balkans now. Not free states.

[vagrant swan]

then I think there are some colonial states that do not deserve to be in today's contemporary europe (its all my opinion)

[tulip gazelle]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary#:~:text=Janissaries began as elite corps,incorporated into the Ottoman army.

Janissaries began as elite corps made up through the devşirme system of child levy enslavement, by which Christian Albanians, Bulgarians, Croats, Greeks, Romanians, Serbs and Ukrainians were taken, levied, subjected to forced circumcision and conversion to Islam, and incorporated into the Ottoman army

[vagrant swan]

you got some points but thats %75 wrong

[versed rain]

I'm a Wikipedia patroller and wikipedia doesn't always have the right information. The added information was added without a source.

[tulip gazelle]

Do you recognize armenian and greek genocide?

[thorny steeple]

Look at those hats

[vagrant swan]

this is not like u think dude

[tulip gazelle]

If you say no i wont continue this conversation, the Turkish government rewrite history to not take blame for anything in history

[versed rain]

I partially accept the Armenian genocide, but the Greek genocide never happened. The U.S. had prepared a report on this, and it was proven that it was the Greeks who actually committed the genocide. If you want, you can search for Colonel Bristol.

[thorny steeple]

@feral river the "powerful side" is now crying to hamas for a ceasefire. thanks for misinformation about the powerful side

and good luck with your idol minister

[tulip gazelle]

The Greeks did commit a genocide and the Turks did also afterward in retalitation but Turkey denies taking revenge

[versed rain]

I don't know of such a thing. I would be glad if you cite the source.

[tulip gazelle]

https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/the-ottoman-christian-genocide#:~:text=During the Greco-Turkish War,of thousands more were displaced.

[thorny steeple]

When did that happen?

[tulip gazelle]

During greko-ottoman war

[vagrant swan]

thats a good one

[thorny steeple]

Past is just past

[tulip gazelle]

It affect people today to many it isnt just past

[vagrant swan]

thats a good convo

[tulip gazelle]

It like when Japan doesnt apologize to crimes in Korea

[vagrant swan]

i gtg now but i want to make this convo later

[versed rain]

I don't believe in nonsensical and undocumented sources.

But I never support a genocide

[vagrant swan]

it looks trustable

[versed rain]

We have always been told about the colonialism of states such as Spain, France and England.

idk

I think of it as blaming someone who lived in his village when the Nazi massacre was taking place.

[thorny steeple]

Actually, I don't really care much about Korea's past as a former colony of Japan. Right now, Japan is more like an ally to us.

[tulip gazelle]

Yes, us too, but we also taught how Turkey invaded and colonized balkan and europe also, to most european Turkey is more like Georgia in asia/middle east than europe

It issue of history, culture and religion

[versed rain]

I mean, it's acceptable, but I don't consider myself Middle Eastern.

[tulip gazelle]

I see it anatolian but people usually sum as middle east

[versed rain]

Frankly, I am Thracian.

There is a great prejudice against Middle Eastern countries in our country.

[tulip gazelle]

China is a threat, but Japan isnt known for accepting war crime really

[thorny steeple]

It's common for any government to interpret and tailor things in a way that benefits itself.

[tulip gazelle]

Isnt it bulgarian

They say they were thracians

[versed rain]

For example, in recent days, Turkish flags were torn and burned in Syria with the help of the PKK terrorist organization. The people in Turkey also organized large marches.

[tulip gazelle]

Well, not all middle east country get along either to be honest, saudi doesnt really like some it neighbors like yemen or iran

[versed rain]

It is a medium-sized region at the intersection of Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey.

Not only bulgarian

[tulip gazelle]

Oh i see how do you consider term thracian

[versed rain]

For example, I have seen Bulgarian people, but Turks in Turkey seem to be more European.

[versed rain]

It's just a fabrication, not to say Balkan.

[tulip gazelle]

I think it depend where you go, i met a turkish guy at my university before but he looked very middle east and used turkish and arabic

[versed rain]

Arabic?

No one in Turkey speaks Arabic except Syrians.

[tulip gazelle]

Yeah he wrote in turkish and arab both

[versed rain]

I could swear to you.

[versed rain]

Syrian

Not turkish

[tulip gazelle]

But he called himself Turkish than Syrian

[versed rain]

None of the Turks know the Arabic alphabet, including me.

[versed rain]

Brother, believe me. No one in my country speaks Arabic. Turks are not Arabs, they are not Mongols. Turks are Turks. It uses the Latin alphabet. they speak Turkish. Nothing else.

[tulip gazelle]

Oh, then how come he call himself Turkish but uses both

[versed rain]

I know that because of our ridiculous foreign policies, you see us as a barbaric Muslim country, but we are not a story. If you happen to be in the way one day, come. Travel.

Turkey is a secular, republican country. 70 percent of people is muslim.

[tulip gazelle]

I don't see Turkey like that, I just dislike the government I haven't met many turkish people beside one to have a strong opinion

[versed rain]

You can add me as a friend. u can chat with me about that.

Also, I don't like Erdogan.

[desert nebula]

You always put the blame on the Kurds. Why not mention the real reason why the flags were burnt?

[versed rain]

The man came in with 52 percent of the vote in the final round of doubles. 48 percent votes against

[tulip gazelle]

He said they were terrorists who use bombs seem like good reason to burn PKK flag

[versed rain]

Kurds? I didnt say kurds. I said syrians.

PKK, YPG, ISIS, ISId, DAESH are terrorist organizations in the region. The PKK also has nothing to do with the Kurds

[versed rain]

Do u support PKK?

[tulip gazelle]

I don't know them but if they terrorist then no

[versed rain]

Look at that link

[desert nebula]

So now syrians are counted as the "terrorist" PKK?

[versed rain]

This link is about wanted terrorist. Do u liked these? https://www.terorarananlar.pol.tr/tarananlar#kirmizi

[desert nebula]

Again you didn't mention why the flags were burnt?

[desert nebula]

You've never been to hatay then

[tulip gazelle]

Why would you assume i like terrorist?

[tulip gazelle]

He said they bomb people it seem like terrorism

[versed rain]

Because hatay is filled by syrians

and turkish people get angry for these people

[desert nebula]

Who are bombing whom?

[tulip gazelle]

Értesz valamit magyarul? @versed rain

[tulip gazelle]

He said PKK bomb Turkey people

[desert nebula]

Dont make me laugh poeple there used to speak shami since the past. Read history but don't cry when you find it was part of Syria.

[versed rain]

Erdogan wanted to meet with ESAD for peace in syrian country. PKK wants to create a Kurdistan. PKK dont wants a peace. Already turkish people hate syrian because of bad effects. PKK wanted to get a bad things.

[desert nebula]

He is mixing things😅Syrians burnt the Turkish flags in North Syria after the nationalist turk races killed, burned and destroyed Syrian shops and properties in Türkiye.

[tulip gazelle]

I thought Syria doesn't like Kurdestan either, why they support PKK?

[versed rain]

PKK burned turkish flag such as a syrian people in syria

[versed rain]

Because USA wants to create Kurdistan in field.

And esad takes money from usa

[tulip gazelle]

Why did they do that to Syrians and also i think 2 wrong doesnt make a right

[desert nebula]

Yeah Erdoğan the hypocrite who one said asad is a terrorist who killed million Syrian and there will be no peace with him. Look at him now since he doesn't want to lose his popularity

[versed rain]

All of them are arrested.

[desert nebula]

He came up with this idea and now Turks will love him bc it's a step to deport Syrians

[tulip gazelle]

I heard a lot of Afghan people move to syria and turkey

[versed rain]

they are increasimg

[tulip gazelle]

Are they the one fleeing from Taliban

[desert nebula]

It's not new. many have been racist to Arabs since the past but now it increased when the Syrian refugees increased. You have to hear an incident every time.

Type in Arabic an attack on a ....... Tourist

[versed rain]

one minute for chat i have to leave for 5 minute

[desert nebula]

Google will give you all the suggestions in happening in Türkiye

[tulip gazelle]

I don't know much about Arabs, i met one from Jordan who call himself Circassian he was nice

[desert nebula]

If you want to know why this incident is happening it's because the Turkish people thought a Syrian assaulted a little Turkish girl but then it was proved to be a Syrian girl. I guess they won't care now bc she's arab

[tulip gazelle]

That's sad to hear they do something like that, why they attack innocent people for that than the assaulter

[desert nebula]

We had different civilizations in the past but now we call ourselves Arabs(majority) regardless of our genome. Go back to Syria thousand years ago you'll find arameans, Syriac Assyrians.....

[versed rain]

It's a completely bellaic culture. Afghans and Syrians are constantly harassing Turkish girls, and then you see that Syrian being beaten and so on. The people are very angry.

[tulip gazelle]

Well he said his family flee russia in 1800s and settled in Jordan from genocide

[desert nebula]

Yep if they punished that Syrian I won't be mad but not go and attack civilians who have nothing to do with this.

[versed rain]

No, the ministry said that he was Syrian to stop the protests, but the people did not stop the protests.

[desert nebula]

It's your media who shows the bad side like our media shows you as racist and hateful. You can't blame a whole nation for the behavior of some individuals

[versed rain]

Are u turkish? We dont call us arab. We hate arabs too much.

[desert nebula]

There's also Armenians in Syria who fled from Türkiye.

[tulip gazelle]

Why did people attack innocent syrian though than the one who did it, its not good to attack innocent civilian

[desert nebula]

What do you mean? The girl or the guy? Both are syrians as I know

[tulip gazelle]

I met a lot of armenian they are cool people

[versed rain]

Lady, my sister, Syrians have been in our country for 14 years. They've caused enough trouble. The people have been silent enough. You can't blame the public for a few incidents. I would say the same thing about the yellow vests in France.

[versed rain]

A syrian man and a turkish girl

[desert nebula]

No I'm Syrian/Suriye. Also you just proved my point I hope you're not attacking Arabs bc you hate them😅

[versed rain]

The people are angry, but the attackers have all been arrested.

[tulip gazelle]

Yellow vests were all french people though it was farmer mad at their government

[desert nebula]

Yep one of my fav Syrian singers is from Armenian origins.

[versed rain]

We hate Arabs as a society, but that doesn't mean we despise them. Our cultures don't match.

[cold crag]

Hey guys what u talking about

[versed rain]

They burned cars, shops and houses.

[tulip gazelle]

Why can't Turkey try to fix relation with it minority i think both would do better get along than fight especially since same religion

[tulip gazelle]

Syria and Turkey

[desert nebula]

*13 years also just suddenly the syrians became bad or what?
We were under the ottoman empire for a longer time but I don't see Arabs hating Turks like you do why is that?

[versed rain]

Just as the Germans in Germany don't want the Turks anymore, we, as the owners of this country, don't want them. All of them can come with visas, but not as refugees.

[tulip gazelle]

Has Syrian always lived in Turkey?

[versed rain]

Is it bad after 13 years? It's been like this since they arrived.

[cold crag]

The turkey people hate Arab we know that

[desert nebula]

You can't put every problem on the Syrians they're working and living like you do. When an economic crisis occur blame the Syrians when a crime occurs first convict is the Syrian

[versed rain]

Yep

[desert nebula]

You can blame the syrians for the fire happening in Türkiye now too

[tulip gazelle]

I think German generally like Turkish people, good food and such, they just make fun how nationalist in germany argue with other nationalist in germany

[versed rain]

Believe me, brother, come and have a look. There are more Syrians, Afghans and people in the country than Turks. Because of them, we can't get visa liberalization or anything like that. Is this a good deal for us?

[desert nebula]

What's your culture? I see you having the name "yusuf" so you're most probably a Muslim

[tulip gazelle]

How come they hate arab so much if they shared many nation together

[versed rain]

Come and look or research our culture. Unfortunately, I will not be able to introduce you to our culture.

[desert nebula]

After the civil war. Türkiye opened the borders for Syrians (when they were opposing Asad ofc) now seems everything will change

[tulip gazelle]

How can i tell who is turk from other, im not used to balkan or more southern cultures

[versed rain]

And yes, I'm a Muslim, is there a problem?

[desert nebula]

They increased when the war rose and Russia and Iran interfered

[cold crag]

I'm taking about people not the government

[tulip gazelle]

Wouldnt it be less reason to hate because being neighbors

[cold crag]

I don't know really

[versed rain]

Do you think Turks are black? Come and see, you will already understand the differences.

[tulip gazelle]

Oh i see that makes sense then but i can see why Turkish people may not like so many people coming in at once i think the hate is bad

[desert nebula]

The culture you've showed to us isn't a good culture

That's what I saw not like what I've imagined

[tulip gazelle]

I have seen kara boga meme online and i heard turkish people made the meme in response to serbian so to be honest im not sure

[versed rain]

We are a sufficiently hospitable, respectful, tolerant and animal-loving nation, but if our good intentions are abused, imagine if 10 million Syrians come from their country and disrupt the country's economy, demographic happiness and crime rates.

[tulip gazelle]

What is deodorization? I never seen this word before

[versed rain]

I didnt understand

demographic

[desert nebula]

The problem is thinking you're quite different from Arabs while here if I saw a Syrian and a Turkish guy they all look the same. Both share similar food, same religion similar names and even borrowed words from each other. We always thought of Turks as brothers BEFORE but thanks for showing us your true nature

[versed rain]

sorry

[desert nebula]

Do you think syrians are black?

[tulip gazelle]

İnternette Kara Boga adında bir meme gördüm ve Sırp milliyetçilerine tepki olarak kökeninin Türk olduğu söyleniyor ama Türk adam siyah olarak tasvir ediliyor

[versed rain]

idk

[desert nebula]

Go search who are the closest genetically to Turks

[tulip gazelle]

I see a lot of Arab they seem usually to be like Greek or Italian or Albanian at first glance

[versed rain]

How can a idea against the syrians be defined a bad thing?

[tulip gazelle]

Turks are closest to OCA (Caucasus) and OME (Iranian and Syrian) groups, compared to other groups or populations such as East-Central European populations (OEC), European (EUR, including Northern and Eastern European), Sardinian, Roma, and Turkmen

[desert nebula]

Brother, every human on this earth is subjected to be a refugee one day either from a war or a natural disaster.

[tulip gazelle]

It look like online when i search Syrian are quite close to turkish people genetically

[versed rain]

We are not

[desert nebula]

I understand we came in large numbers and the operation should have been more organized. Throughout history Syria welcomed many refugees from wars ....they're now called Syrians among us even. A kurd and Armenian a Greek all identify as a Syrian while still knowing their origin

[desert nebula]

Depends on what's the idea? Since when hatred isn't a bad idea?

[versed rain]

No one is obliged to host refugees

[desert nebula]

Yeah but they won't admit. They refuse to accept they're descendants of Mongols ok but can't deny that when studies were done they're closest to the Syrian and Iranian poeple.

[versed rain]

Don't talk about refuuge problems in turkey before being turkish . This is not an easy thing to explain.

[versed rain]

where are u from??????

[desert nebula]

Your country is obliged.

[versed rain]

not

[desert nebula]

If they want to refuse they can depart from the EU but your country won't so don't blame only yourselves

[versed rain]

@desert nebula huh, people should to think before select a president. No one is not obliged to accept refuuges after any problem.

[versed rain]

Turkey is not in the EU

[desert nebula]

I said already SYRIA SURIYE SYRIE SIIRIA سوريا

[desert nebula]

Did we select Erdoğan for you or what?

[versed rain]

U should to think before select esad

This is not our problem, sorry.

[tulip gazelle]

That's strange, Hungarian originally from ural mountain but today closer to slavic and austrian neighbors and have no problem recognizing both. My family Rusyns and from Ukraine & Hungary but also Poland because many Rusyn and Hungarian settled in Poland, it just how people move around in shared empires and kingdom in history

[versed rain]

I should have realized that she was a Syrian because u provoked me enough.

[desert nebula]

We didn't choose him he announced himself after his trash father

[versed rain]

U shouldt escape from a war

or ur people

[desert nebula]

I know we're all not pure especially in Syria but regardless I'll identify as an Arab forever. Poeple keeps telling other people to leave while all their ancestors were immigrants too at some point in history

[desert nebula]

You're welcome

[versed rain]

Yeah u are arab. This is not a problem.

[desert nebula]

Should I commit suicide then?

[versed rain]

We already know it.

[desert nebula]

It's a problem for you we all know

[tulip gazelle]

I think culture matter more than genetic end of day personally

[versed rain]

Syrians are problem in turkiye yes.

[tulip gazelle]

Why are they problem?

[desert nebula]

You should study about Arabs too before having a surface idea about them

[tulip gazelle]

So far the Syrian been very calm and patient in their discussion to you and not rude

[desert nebula]

Ask them what matters to him?

[versed rain]

After 2011- economic crise, USA-Turkey crise, EU-Turkey crise, the increase in crime rates, the fact that they do not work and receive money from the state, and they equip Turkish beaches with hookahs and harass and rape Turkish girls. Escaping from war is against our culture.

[desert nebula]

I think it's culture nationality and everything. Nationalistic poeple are getting crazy by the time

[versed rain]

If u dont like turkey, go to war and fight.

[desert nebula]

Why?

[tulip gazelle]

@versed rain would culture or genetic matter to you more for someone being consider turkish, could a sudanese or syrian be turkish if they adopt turkish culture and language but hold their old tradition at home?

[versed rain]

Look brother, let them all go to their countries. Let them come to my country with a visa. I host them all at my home, but it's not clear what they really are.

[desert nebula]

Show statistics pls. It's proven that we haven't caused the economic crisis. You better search when was the highest crime rates in Turkey before even the syrians arrived

[versed rain]

We dont like syrians. That is enough.

[desert nebula]

I'm not in Türkiye alhamdülillah.

[versed rain]

Uhhh okay

[tulip gazelle]

I'm asking if they grow up in turkey but at home celebrate their syrian heritage even if they integrate if youd consider them turkish or not

[versed rain]

Thanks for it

[desert nebula]

We don't need your love just don't cross your limits and let people live

[versed rain]

After obtaining citizenship, all their rights are the same as ours.

[desert nebula]

Wait till the Arab countries boycott Türkiye. Don't cry then when your economic goes down more

[tulip gazelle]

I see makes sense

[tulip gazelle]

Arab government seem to often do opposite of what arab people support

[versed rain]

No, here is our country. If people wants to kick u with a election. Syrians should go to out.

[versed rain]

Okay, there is no problem. U can go and say to esad.

[tulip gazelle]

I don't think this is right, it's against human rights to send people back to dictatorship where they will die or be jailed

[cinder quartz]

Whats topic

[desert nebula]

Because they're puppets of the west. Like Asad they could remove the terrorist from the beginning but instead supported him

[tulip gazelle]

Syria and turkey

[cinder quartz]

Interesting

[versed rain]

This is the problem, we have no enmity towards nations, but after their civil war, they all came to our country at once, and we were very badly affected. If they go to their country and come with a visa, believe me, I like it more than most people. The religious language of a meritorious, moral and good person does not have a race.

[desert nebula]

Go back to central Asia too
when you're paying for our bills you can complain then

[tulip gazelle]

Assad is a evil man in my opinion

[versed rain]

But there is democracy. Already erdogan does not allow it

me too. Because there was no a problem in turkey if he doesnt exist.

[desert nebula]

Unfortunately, he's like many dumb politicians but no worries his life is shortened and soon he'll burn in hell alongside all the criminals..

[tulip gazelle]

I can understand people fleeing from a war, many ukrainians have had to flee russias invasion to neighboring countries, west europe and usa

[versed rain]

Of course, my dear, you pray. By the way, I am not a supporter of Erdogan.

[versed rain]

With visa or control there is no problem.

wars are the worst things of the world.

[desert nebula]

How do expect people who lost their homes and everything to get a visa😅
My grandma is in Türkiye by a visa right but it's the hardest thing to get for us and she wasn't in Syria even.

[tulip gazelle]

You can control people fleeing from wars theres too many to stop and its also putting their safety in danger from persecution

[desert nebula]

Evil is too little to describe him

[versed rain]

Yep

[tulip gazelle]

She should try switzerland or sweden

[versed rain]

As I said, we don't have a problem with people living well in our country. All of them will return to their country when their war is over.

[desert nebula]

A supporter of Atatürk?
Regardless I hate all of them. They provide poeple with good achievements right but neither of them was an angel.

[desert nebula]

My aunt is in Sweden🙃 people are nice they call her beautiful bc she's an Arab not like other countries

[versed rain]

Yep 70 percent of turkish people are supporter of Atatürk.

[tulip gazelle]

Sweden is 50/50 i heard, many my somali friend there say racism is common to them being black and muslim

[desert nebula]

You know the war isn't over when Esad is still there. What have changed now?

[desert nebula]

So he's the one who's nurturing you with this mentality and hate

[tulip gazelle]

Didnt he genocide armenian 😔

[versed rain]

Show your head to a doctor. We can't send people to war, but eventually they will all go.

[desert nebula]

Maybe bc we're not black but that's bad though. I hate racism. Sadly it's still occuring everywhere

[versed rain]

I can't say that. I support him ideology.

[dapper laurel]

Lol

[tulip gazelle]

True even i experience it some degree but not as bad as other

[desert nebula]

You need this more believe. Contradicting yourself in the same sentence. How you can't send them to war while you're saying you want to send them

[versed rain]

It was hilarious. Please don't let it happen again.

[tulip gazelle]

One can recognize a leader crimes even if at same time they can also recognize they did thing for their country, no leader has no dirt on hand, issue is when one does not recognize the crimes

[versed rain]

In the country of the republic, everything happens by the choice of the people. That's what I said.

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, but I really appreciated the "go back to central asia" part

[versed rain]

Every leader is portrayed as genocidal and murderous by other nations.

[desert nebula]

I never faced it in reality not in Syria not in Egypt not in the us... Maybe I'm just lucky for this but ofc online I saw the most disgusting hateful messages especially from a certain country

[tulip gazelle]

Why has Turkey had so many coup in past by military though

[tulip gazelle]

Not true

[versed rain]

okay, we will go after that.

[versed rain]

CIA, KGB. The clash of communist and capitalist supporters in the country.

[dapper laurel]

You don't need it, there is almost nothing "Turkish" left in modern Türkiye

[desert nebula]

Ok you poeple chose Erdoğan and he's obliged to accept refugees bc he has an agreement with the EU.
You seem to be with the opposition of Erdoğan

[versed rain]

Is that so, okay.

[desert nebula]

truth hurts

[dapper laurel]

At this point the same could also be said of Hitler ☠️☠️

[tulip gazelle]

In Ukraine there's a bit of anti Rusyn and anti Hungarian sentiment lately, and Russian generally view all east slav as Russian not their own thing which Rusyn fall under to them

And in general, people seem to view Hungarian and Slav as backward people in Europe in my experience

But it hasnt been as bad as black friend experiences

[versed rain]

Read carefully. I have stated 10000 times that I do not support Erdogan.

[versed rain]

Uh, u are right. U can kill me for this. Oh my goodness, how did this happen. I will not leave my room out of shame until I die.

[dapper laurel]

Literally, every Armenian genocide denier was Turkish

[versed rain]

I personally accept.

Not entirely

[desert nebula]

This happens when everyone looks at the person in front of him as different race and not as a human. I hope someday they all recognize we're made of the same thing and no one has a Superiority over the other.
I just remembered when a Russian got upset on one of the servers when I mentioned my cousin is half Russian. Like that's a real problem for him

[marsh robin]

Same topics....

[dapper laurel]

There is nothing to accept, such a thing cannot be accepted

[desert nebula]

Ok you support racism and extreme nationalism I got it

[tulip gazelle]

In Russia many ethnic Russians look down on non ethnic Russians they have two terms for this, one for a ethnic russian and one for a national russian so a russian who isnt slavic

[versed rain]

I have love for the person who saved our country when a narrow squeeze was left to us by very civilized France, Italy, England, Armenia and Greece.

[dapper laurel]

We tried to civilize the Ottoman Empire, unfortunately we didn't succeed, just look at Turkey today

[versed rain]

Stop it. I'm not racist. I think about the future of my country. You have repeatedly used my good intentions, but I will not allow it any longer.

[versed rain]

Yes, I am sorry that we were not taken over by the colonial powers.

[tulip gazelle]

I think his fight against dividing turkey up was good, i dont think his crimes against minorities was though which the government seem to deny very often i think you can do both

[versed rain]

ok

[dapper laurel]

🫤

[desert nebula]

I see that makes sense now. That's happening in many countries now.

[tulip gazelle]

I blame the culture war movement

[versed rain]

Like I said. I dont have too much knowledge about it.

[desert nebula]

Don't forget he planted the seed to hate Islam. Supporters of him are always the most racist towards Arabs(syrians generally)

[versed rain]

No

[tulip gazelle]

Maybe @dapper laurel knows more specific they seem also to be Turkish

[versed rain]

i have leave

thanks for debate

[dapper laurel]

I wasn't following the conversation, who are "they"?

Armenians?

[desert nebula]

You stated clearly you hate syrians several times. Ok humanity lover
When you wish the death for the refugees who thought they escaped death then I don't what to call you honestly

[tulip gazelle]

I think in english they used to refer to who you mention originally i meant to mean you

[desert nebula]

I hate wars fr

[tulip gazelle]

I think the term war is stretch, its like far right vs far left and identity politic stuff

[versed rain]

i hate problematic syrians

İ dont have problem with all

i am leaving

good night

[desert nebula]

It's complex

[tulip gazelle]

True it seem different in every country

[desert nebula]

That's good. You can say you hate criminals regardless of the nationality not Syrians.

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-a-drink-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-sipping-beverage-gif-25155316

[tulip gazelle]

Good night

[desert nebula]

I hope you won't hate me if I were in Türkiye

[tulip gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-homelander-gif-26218105

[desert nebula]

Thanks for the talk too🫠

[tulip gazelle]

Your welcome

[dapper laurel]

But don't go to turkey, it's literally not a nice place

[desert nebula]

[tulip gazelle]

I like Belgium and Netherland

[dapper laurel]

Me too bro

[tulip gazelle]

I went to Liege and Brussel and Amsterdam very beautiful place and nice people

[desert nebula]

Türkiye is beautiful(I mean the country not people)
I've been there temporary for a week after the war🙃but my dad knew already it'll be hard for us to live there

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[tulip gazelle]

Turkey seem to do to others what they say everyone else does to them

[tulip gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-tomer-kapon-frenchie-the-boys-upset-gif-17834487

[dapper laurel]

It's kinda a meme

They do it for the meme

[marsh robin]

I wish other Syrians would know that and choose Eu instead Türkiye ahh...

[tulip gazelle]

Why so

[tulip gazelle]

Why they go to turkey instead

[marsh robin]

Ask them not me

[late atlas]

Belgium is a little bit Frenchy. But I love the Netherlands 🇳🇱

[dapper laurel]

I hope Syria can recover, I can't imagine the pain of having to leave your country for a war

[dapper laurel]

Because they are psychopaths

[tulip gazelle]

I like french they had napoleon and tried make polish and hungarian free

[prisma cipher]

I like turk

[versed rain]

Turkey has a strong naval power. Turkey is preventing Syrians from entering the EU with their security and receiving money. Syrians cannot go to Europe without Turkish citizenship.

[brisk yoke]

@tulip gazelle are you mentioning about Atatürk

[late atlas]

France is great country. I prefer the Germanic and Anglo-Saxon countries though

[tulip gazelle]

That makes me sad 😔

[desert nebula]

If they had the ability they'd do it😅when you lose your home and everything you'll understand them. Most syrians at the beginning left to neighboring countries bc they thought it's a temporarily war even us and Türkiye opened their borders so it's logical where they'd go it's not like we invaded Türkiye

[tulip gazelle]

When

[tulip gazelle]

Oh is it a agreement they make with EU of some kind?

[feral river]

Can you guys imprison those illegal immigrants and force them to produce some products to boost your economy and making everything stupid cheap

[tulip gazelle]

Are you german speaker

[late atlas]

What's wrong with Turk people? I think Turk people are great

[versed rain]

completely

[dapper laurel]

I don't believe in immigration, for me it is a destructive process, I am looking to send economic support to Syrians in Syria, to help them recover

[versed rain]

erdogan wants them

for vote

[late atlas]

Yes

[marsh robin]

My house got burned down and we stayed there... And repaired pls stop using all disadvantages for making agitation...

[dapper laurel]

Brudaaa

[feral river]

I prefer send military to there

[desert nebula]

Thank you, It'll recover when the Asad family leave and the dumb politicians are removed besides all the militias Iran Russia USA and the PKK and other extremists groups but that seems a far dream for us.

[feral river]

It will solve everything

[late atlas]

Not my native language though

[versed rain]

they can take immigrant id after enter in turkey

[marsh robin]

Better idea ig

[dapper laurel]

How did you learn German?

[tulip gazelle]

Chani mal mit dir üebe mis Dütsch zschriebe?

[desert nebula]

If you're not an Arab(or Armenian)it's not a problem for them

[prisma cipher]

I'm ruski

[versed rain]

We don't like it because of the betrayals of the Ottomans in the First World War and the recent U.S. lackey movements.

[marsh robin]

No u should add all nations to show Turks racist pls...

[desert nebula]

Go above and you'll understand. Or simply search Suriye in this server to see how much they love us

[feral river]

What ?

[dapper laurel]

Or simply European too, when I was in Türkiye they treated me like a king

[feral river]

Syria ?

[marsh robin]

Then talk about the Turks in this server..

[feral river]

Are you serious right now

[prisma cipher]

I heard a lot Asian are racist

[desert nebula]

Thanks for all this love 🩷🩷

[dapper laurel]

Yes, especially the Japanese and Koreans

[feral river]

There is no such term called racism in East Asia

[tulip gazelle]

Котры чуджі языкы знає те?

[versed rain]

❤️

[prisma cipher]

O I know nisa

[feral river]

We are all ethnic states

China, Japan, Korea all ethnic states

[marsh robin]

They talk about security problems maybe their way is kinda rude but those things happens unfortunately...

[feral river]

No racist problems

[marsh robin]

U have to be Turk to understand..

[prisma cipher]

Я знаю только русский

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but it's paradoxical, the Turks complain about security problems, but when they emigrate they are the ones who generate problems

[desert nebula]

Really it's a fair comparion. It's like when the earthquake happened poeple had to leave their area so imagine the conditions in Syria Everytime you built your home another strike destroy it(I'm supposing you're eternal and can survive a bomb Everytime ofc)

[prisma cipher]

I mean I heard Japanese have special word for foreigners

[marsh robin]

Lol... Ok man let's exchange our immigrants and Turkish refugees deal 🤝?

[marsh robin]

Yeah they left and immigrated to other Turkish cities u r right

[dapper laurel]

Nah, I simply don't want immigrants, I'm for help them in their place, not here

[feral river]

Well just nihongjin, chougokujin, waigujin, Japanese, Chinese, Foreigner etc.

Idk what else they have to describe foreigners

[desert nebula]

They send weapon support to esad only. Imagine at once Russia gave him weapons for over 3 million$ I wonder how much millions he used on weapons instead of building the country

[marsh robin]

Same logic bravo 👏

[late atlas]

Okay there is always a conflict somewhere

[versed rain]

Ur country can take 15 million syrians.

U like them too much

[desert nebula]

So ask yusuf if he hates you or not I hate no one except criminals

[versed rain]

So refuuges, not syrians. Because it would be racism.

[tulip gazelle]

Зроз я жал нє знаю руськый бесїда алє я знаю язык русинскый бісїдый і мадярьскый

[feral river]

They can use those military to control strategic positions to gain more economic power than just build something useless

[desert nebula]

where did you study history

[dapper laurel]

In fact my country was wrong on this, unfortunately politicians are in the interests of the economy, not human rights

[versed rain]

Ruski? What is that?

[desert nebula]

You do realize during the Arab revolt most Arabs in the ottoman army stayed loyal to the ottoman empire. They fought with you even 😅

[feral river]

Well you can see what we have done to refugees, all they have to face is the fence and the guns

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but brother, I already said I don't like immigration

[feral river]

That’s why we don’t have that stupid problem

[versed rain]

In all schools, we explain that Arabs did not unite under the Ottoman call for a caliphate.

[tulip gazelle]

Russian

[desert nebula]

It's not who's saying this. Ask your poeple I can read btw

[prisma cipher]

I prefer didn't know if he hate me

[versed rain]

I mean, you can't blame a country with a refugee population for not living there, right?

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, China is particular

[versed rain]

No problem

[feral river]

China doesn’t accept any of these refugees, not even one

We don’t need to worry about this

[desert nebula]

Because many thinks they're Europeans among them. I wonder if my relatives with the blonde and colored eyes will be treated like kings there

[versed rain]

We dont have any problem each other.

[prisma cipher]

Мне не интересно что ты там знаешь, я просто ответил на вопрос.

[marsh robin]

If they treat well yes...

[versed rain]

It's because of hospitality. The same goes for an asian. You have no superiority.

[desert nebula]

What about the ones who are burning and killing syrians in your country?
No one of you says a word when you talk gibberish about syrians all the time in ur Turkish chat

[prisma cipher]

What language is that?

[dapper laurel]

I didn't think Syrians were white, is the majority of Syrians white?

[tulip gazelle]

Є то руськый тяжкый язык?

[tulip gazelle]

Rusyn

[brisk yoke]

I litterally couldn't find the sentece but anyways ı am not gonna enter this discussion from a middle point just wanna say that Turkey's seemingly dissident people most of the time tend to be defend and propose rightist ideas especially young ones because they have been successfully manipulated to do so by the current goverment for decades and just don't even realise it. This could be the main struggle that you are going through in this argument (sorry for late commenting)

[dapper laurel]

In the end they just wanted money 🤣

[desert nebula]

Sorry because my nature never understood why some people can hate someone for their race or nationality.

[versed rain]

Generally white. Because the majority of them are in our country.

[marsh robin]

First I don't follow Turkish chat... And I don't approve vandalism ok. Do u talk about rap!? Syrians who tortured little girls in your Arabic chat?

[versed rain]

u are tourist.

[prisma cipher]

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but are they white like Europeans?

[versed rain]

wheat-fried wheat

[marsh robin]

Like What European do...

[desert nebula]

And if it was everywhere they'll go to other countries. If the immigrants weren't syrians but European Ukrainians will you be more happy?

[dapper laurel]

I treat tourists well here even if I don't need money, I'm friendly

[prisma cipher]

Probably yes

Just my opinion

[desert nebula]

If building homes, schools and hospitals instead of bombing them is more useful you need therapy too.

[versed rain]

then I'm sorry for you

[feral river]

Ofc those riches middle class Ukrainian rushing into your state would be the best for ur economy

[marsh robin]

If they are less criminal and problematic maybe... I also want Russians and Ukrainians go back their home after war... U just trying to put me racist position please don't be cun ok...

[tulip gazelle]

https://rue.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Русиньскый_язык

[feral river]

I need more cheap stuff more money and those stupid therapy which is already full of my states

[dapper laurel]

Are they yellow or what?

[desert nebula]

Most countries only talk about human rights but no actions. I feel sad for the Syrians who were convinced by Erdoğan that they're welcome and poeple who told them it's your second country but seems nothing continues.
People change sides easily. Let's see how peace between terrorist esad and Erdoğan will benefit him

[versed rain]

she tried the same thing on me and finally made me maddened

[feral river]

We can even build some factories to recruit some cheap labor within their state

It’s 100x more profitable than build some useless stuff

Even Americans steal oil in their country

Using trucks

That’s ridiculous they know nothing about occupation

[marsh robin]

Yeah after accepting 3.5 (recorded) refugees he realized something is wrong ig... I hope both of them disappear as soon as possible

[versed rain]

Don't you know how to be wheat skinned? You probably don't expect the people of a burning society to be people in Norwegian whiteness.

[desert nebula]

So don't depend only on your school bc every country is biased😅 you can search for the components of the ottoman army if you think it's only Turks you're wrong. It was called Arab revolt bc who initiated it were from Saudi Arabia ig. But the majority of Arabs in the ottoman army remained royal and they even fought against Arabs

[feral river]

It’s a new business field and industry that could be settled in a occupied area

[desert nebula]

[feral river]

A huge business

[dapper laurel]

My question was simple, I would like a simple answer like a "yes" or a "no"

[feral river]

Bro a huge business and precious asset

[versed rain]

I don't know, we don't like each other. That's in our nature.

[feral river]

Even more profitable than your home land

I would say they know nothing about occupation

[versed rain]

Bleached brown

[feral river]

Look at our ancestors, Japanese, Germans

[versed rain]

So no

[desert nebula]

Did a Syrian raise a weapon on you before? Did they bully you in school until you kil.led yourself bc of racism? A Syrian burnt your shop? A Syrian damaged your car?

[desert nebula]

Bro look at my pfp. It's enough to know😅

[feral river]

They may didn’t do that but you can’t ensure they won’t do that

[desert nebula]

We're of all colors depends which family and which city

[dapper laurel]

Yesss, a simple and Analytical answer, I love it

[versed rain]

A photograph of a refugee family. That's the way they are.

[marsh robin]

How did u switch the topic.... U were talking about your blonde looks like European relatives... Lol we call that what aboutism

[tulip gazelle]

Wō zhīxué le yìdiăn zhōngwén

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, but you look middle eastern. Btw the Syrian genetics is closer to others middle eastern groups, only for a small proportion to northern Mediterranean people

[feral river]

Well it’s complex because refugees can bring more economic increments and can destroy your economy but based on your policy

[marsh robin]

They didn't do me but they did other people so... Let's say they did to me? Will u accept that I'm right no u will pull the topic another side and u'll say there's also Turks who do that and it will keep going like that

[feral river]

And how you gonna treat them

[desert nebula]

That who assaulted the little girl should be in prison ofc😅but him and not random people who speak Arabic on the streets. Where was you chivalry when that Turkish guy killed the little Syrian girl torture her then threw her in the well?
When another one kidnapped the little Syrian boy and murderded him when his family couldn't give him 40000 euro as a ransom. Or you just rise whenever the criminal is a Syrian

[dapper laurel]

Yep, they're brown I think

[feral river]

Yeah I can read that you only learned a little bit Chinese that was awesome

[tulip gazelle]

Its a very hard language

But i like how it sound

[feral river]

Not pretty hard if you studied hard 😂

[desert nebula]

Bro there's millions is syrians in Türkiye if they were all bad you won't be here chatting. They're just humans like you including bad and good poeple.

[marsh robin]

Yeah yeah...

[tulip gazelle]

I been studying hungarian most lately, but i like to pick chinese up again sometime

[versed rain]

@dapper laurel they came our country around 15 million like this photo. Is it well? Some of them raped our girls and scared tourists.

[desert nebula]

[feral river]

WHERE IS YOUR GUN BRO

[versed rain]

Photograph of real refugees arriving in Turkey

[feral river]

what is your police doing

What is your army’s doing

[versed rain]

Controlled refugee

[feral river]

What are they doing

[versed rain]

but around 15 million

[dapper laurel]

No, that's not right, close the borders and simply send funds to Syria to set up refugee camps inside it

[marsh robin]

Thx this is the evidence what I mean .... If all Turks were bad there wouldn't be million Syrian u tell same thing..

[desert nebula]

I agree with the last sentence

[versed rain]

And after that why Europe sees Turkey as a barbarian who does not open its doors and bombs rain down on these people?

[feral river]

Once they take action against them you will see the number will drastically decrease

[marsh robin]

Yes sir! Do u mind if u help me your highness

[desert nebula]

If you're fed with hatred towards us since you were a child that makes sense now. I wonder why they teach us in school about the great ottomon empire and just a simple glimpse of the end of it.

[dapper laurel]

Because it's partially true

[tulip gazelle]

How is ottomans taught in syria

[desert nebula]

I'm talking about real incidents happened in Türkiye already (by Turks)

[versed rain]

Can we not be hurt by what we do hahahah. What do you think you are?

[feral river]

Yeah I know and Syrians in turkey already caused a lot of problem

Like economy stagnation, unstable society

[dapper laurel]

WE ARE EUROPEANS 🇪🇺🇪🇺💪🏻💪🏻🏰🏰

[feral river]

UR not

[versed rain]

Fake asians gahahahahah

[feral river]

We are Europeans 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[desert nebula]

You said if they "treat well" I'm showing you your treatment and I'm not blonde just my mother's side

[tulip gazelle]

Europe looks badly at turkey because of ottoman invasion and colonization, they are seen as outsider invade europe not really part of europe but tied its history in how i guess european generally percieve turkey and it history with europe

[dapper laurel]

True

[dapper laurel]

Fake Asians?

[versed rain]

You are terrestrial to Asia. You just call yourself European

[tulip gazelle]

Chinese and Vietnam largest in czechia

[desert nebula]

Ok so why you hate them when they did nothing to you? I saw an interview where all said they hate us and when asked if they harmed them they said no. It's really in your nature like yusuf said

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, I look so Mongol

[versed rain]

I think a big part of the problem is that we're not Christians.

[feral river]

I was wondering how is that one of two compared between Europe and China could born so many country but not united ?

[tulip gazelle]

European? Or Turkish?

[marsh robin]

I won't attack you or jump on u when u tell me u r Syrian.... I'll just wish you going back your country properly that's all.. but even saying that's enough to be calling as racist.. so

[tulip gazelle]

Oh i see

[dapper laurel]

No, it's genetic

[versed rain]

Turkish

[tulip gazelle]

I have to disagree Bosnian and Albanian are seen as european and are muslim

[versed rain]

Yes, you are a complete Chinese.

[desert nebula]

And I didn't say all Turks are bad. I have friends from there(not close). I'm addressing the racist Turks here and telling you our fingers are not the same

[feral river]

Bro half of our territorial area is larger than entire Europe

Even US is united

Why you guys are so divided

[versed rain]

So there are parts that I agree with u

[dapper laurel]

Yes, because they look European

[versed rain]

If you don't like Turkey, tell your nation and they will walk away.

[tulip gazelle]

I think it because Turkey never integrated with Europe like Hungary did, so they are seen as sharing history but not culturally part of europe

[marsh robin]

Lol... I didn't have that much issues until they come over and over .... I also can show Anti Turks even we didn't anything to them so... Some channels has mission to show one side.

[versed rain]

Bulgarian people is not look as european.

[feral river]

Why Europe is not all united even they are connected on the land with almost no natural barriers like mountains

[dapper laurel]

Only the Bulgarian Turks, the rest are Slavs and I consider them Europeans

[desert nebula]

I studied in Egypt so I don't know but many areas in Syria are affected with the ottoman even many adjectives we use in aleppo are of Turkish origin. Some wear like them even😅my father and grandpa only talked good about them especially since he used to visit it before the war just those years I realized how much as a Syrian you'll be hated there

[feral river]

That was so damn strange

[versed rain]

That's right, dear. Anyway. If I have a visa, there is no problem.

[dapper laurel]

Many different cultures, languages, laws, tax systems

[tulip gazelle]

Not really that, many turks pass as balkan or italian so i think that not really true either

I think even though turkey has shared history with europe, culture even to me is very distinct and rather different even if it has some overlap, it like a cross of europe, asia and middle east to us i think but not really fully europe in many people mind, bosnia and albania if you go feel very south europe though

[feral river]

Don’t you guys have the war of conquest?

[versed rain]

i see in you righteousness, often mixed with hatred

[feral river]

Like empire collapse and united again, then collapse, expansion and reunited

[desert nebula]

Show me the statistics were Syrians caused economy crisis and stop talking nonsense.
If you mean because as a Syrian(less than a turk) you get paid half the salary of a turk in work then sure this is a problem

[feral river]

That’s how our territory look like this

[marsh robin]

Eu want us to be lgpq.... and let separatist out and become free so we'll fail ofc

[dapper laurel]

Bro, I'm Italian, can I be mistaken for a Turk? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tulip gazelle]

Does egypt teach about ottoman or focus more on ancient history and fatimid and republic era and such

[marsh robin]

I hope u r aware of supply and demand chain

[dapper laurel]

I'm German too, but I have the look of my Italian mother lol

[versed rain]

I went to Milan and Venice in Italy. Most of italians were brown.

[feral river]

Why ur so proud with some illegal immigrants ? Don’t you know it’s illegal to entry another country without a visa

[tulip gazelle]

Depends where in italy and how hot in summer it is

(I joke)

But i think many south european and balkaner could visit each other country and pass as a local, but not really same for EE or CE

[dapper laurel]

Not Italians, they are immigrants

[feral river]

And talking about how they are not impacting turkey’s economy

[desert nebula]

How many times should I say they're refugees? If we wanted to live in Türkiye we'd be there before 2011 and we could enter easily.

[feral river]

That’s pretty funny

[dapper laurel]

If Italians are brown, Turks are black lol

[feral river]

I can’t believe you would like to support some illegal activities in another country

[versed rain]

So what, do u think italians are white and white really?

[marsh robin]

Yeah white chocolate..

[dapper laurel]

My mother is from southern Italy, but there were Lombards and Normans there, so it could be for this reason

[desert nebula]

I said multiple times I don't hate any country except criminals. They'll go when the terrorists get out of my country.

[dapper laurel]

Real Italians are white

[tulip gazelle]

Italians look white to me, some sicilian and south italian kinda arab but you can still tell they are just mediterannean

[versed rain]

real turks are blue

[feral river]

When they enter another country without a visa and staying there when their visa is expired they are criminals

[dapper laurel]

The only region in Italy that seems brown is Sicily, but only partially, there were North Africans

[versed rain]

u want to say what u want

[marsh robin]

We have to push some of them to go because they're here for financial purpose not just basic humanitarian things... There's also safe places they can go and rebuild their hometown.

[tulip gazelle]

I think it doesnt matter too much, Balkan Slavs get called nonwhite by central and east slavs quite a lot because they look more mediterannean, but its jokes and they are also slavs at end of the day like us so i wouldnt worry much of it

[feral river]

Humanitarian things within their own state

[versed rain]

I hope italians are not as white as the Finns.

[dapper laurel]

Are the immigrants Italian? In Italy, by law, immigrants do not have citizenship

[desert nebula]

Your media shows us as criminals and so do our media.
Btw orient news(Syrian news) it's said it was closed by Türkiye so it won't show some incidents
I wonder when you'll see Syrians as humans who contributed to ur economy too by working. Instead of blaming them blame the corrupted gov

[feral river]

Humanitarian is not the excuse they can illegally enter your state

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, this is true

[feral river]

That was illegal which will not be tolerated

[tulip gazelle]

You could be Romanian and be confused for roma 24/7 so look positive about that

[feral river]

You guys are, entering another country without a visa is illegal

How you gonna explain that ?

[dapper laurel]

Just look at trapattoni or marchisio, If you want to see south, just look at Francesco totti, immobile, de rossi and so on

[desert nebula]

ancient Egyptians, Abbasid, ummayed, ottoman, fatimid, Mamluk, Palestinian conflict , recent revolutions..
Btw when an empire of them falls we don't go and hate who were the reason

[tulip gazelle]

Do you know youtuber Metatron, he is also italian and makes cool content

[marsh robin]

I blame my government first already... But if u say they're contributing and my economy keeps falling since they come... U can check statistics how was Turkish economy before 2015 16... And after I m citizen and I know

[feral river]

If humanitarian is the reason they can disobey the law, there will be no order on the society

So that’s not the reason

[dapper laurel]

The Romanians I've seen are all blond and blue-eyed, idk about this

[tulip gazelle]

That makes sense, egypt is always been very cool to me i love old kingdom and ptolemy eras

[dapper laurel]

I do not know him

[versed rain]

Previously u said i went to turkey. Where did u go?

[tulip gazelle]

It's a thing in central and east europe to make fun of romanian being roma because it makes them really mad and they often complain about roma being thief but themselves get seen as biggest thief in country they move to, so people call the romanians roma to anger them

[desert nebula]

The country allowed them they didn't kill and invade to enter first😅second the numbers of ukranian refugees reached millions in a short time I don't see everyone crying and shouting for them but rather empathize.

[dapper laurel]

I recently discovered lollolacustre, he's a good streamer

[tulip gazelle]

He makes content in english i like him a lot he cover history stuff you may like him

[dapper laurel]

Cities like Adana and Istanbul

[feral river]

Allowed them ? How they allowed them ? What they are doing is clearly violating another country’s law and they didn’t have force to enforce it.

How could you justify to violate the law with sympathy?

[tulip gazelle]

Cause Ukrainian are white but in Poland there some tension with Ukrainians

[feral river]

How does that make sense

[desert nebula]

Keep inventing laws for yourself you should pray that a disaster or a nuclear bomb won't hit you so you won't be called as a criminal somewhere.
Btw my family name is labeled as terrorist inside Syria so criminal sounds more cute for me

[versed rain]

The majority of the people in Adana are kurdish. In istanbul if u see 20 people next to the squere 12 are syrian 4 are iranian 2 are turkish 2 are iranian. U should travel streets if u want to see turk.

[dapper laurel]

The same thing happens with the Greeks too lol

[feral river]

LMAO since you are clearly avoiding the issue of legality and tell me inventing law for myself, and where I live in is a superpower, a nuclear state, we don’t worry about nuclear strike if they strike us we will strike back no one would live

[tulip gazelle]

Why a squirrel

[versed rain]

They are usually in important places.

[marsh robin]

People criticize them but unlike Syrians they aren't here since 2011 , and not as much as Syrian... They're specificly in Mediterranean yes it's problem but u can't expect same amount of criticising because they're not same...

[tulip gazelle]

Really? What about albanian i heard many albanians move to italy

[feral river]

Nuclear threat is only work for some puppet states

Not superpowers

[dapper laurel]

Many I spoke to were Turkish, drivers, waiters, even in hotels

[desert nebula]

Many of them have families in Syria that depends on them and the money they sent to them.
Inside Syria there's already over 7 million syrians "internally displaced"
Many families their names are listed as terrorists and will be imprisoned the moment they step inside

[dapper laurel]

Yes, they are in my province too, they are quite troublesome

[versed rain]

uhhh Square

not squirrel

[tulip gazelle]

That sad to hear hopefully soon the criminal dictator will be overthrown and syrian can have democracy

[versed rain]

uh that is good

[tulip gazelle]

Why do they have a bad reputation in italy

[marsh robin]

What about Syrian liberation Army controlled areas..

[dapper laurel]

YES

[lyric rapids]

[desert nebula]

Can you search instead of making a fool of yourself?
Now or then we could enter Türkiye by our cars after an hour trip and after the war the borders were open for everyone(closed lately)

[tulip gazelle]

Oh i meant more why they got this reputation for

[versed rain]

I have also heard a lot of Albanian thief cases in the central europe.

[dapper laurel]

When there was Italy-Albania (euros match), many of my friends used the n word

[versed rain]

n word? nig..?

[dapper laurel]

Against them

[dapper laurel]

Yes☠️

[versed rain]

And they call us racists

[tulip gazelle]

Dang, thats what my macedonia friends say about them and greeks also

[versed rain]

huh!

[dapper laurel]

We say it about those who are a little further south than us, but sometimes we call each other that for fun

[versed rain]

have a good night

see u all

[tulip gazelle]

South and east europe is still rather racist depending how you view racism since it differ where you go in EE its just very out there and open if someone is racist

[tulip gazelle]

Good night

[desert nebula]

I searched and I didn't understand much in statistics but it was increasing and decreasing in some years(while the Syrians are still inside btw)
The severe crisis happened in 2000-2001😅

[tulip gazelle]

I see calabria get portrayed as a monkey area or something online by north italians for some reason they put images of monkeys everywhere in calabria

[desert nebula]

Yeah I love them the most🩷 best poeple I've dealt with in my life. They always called us their brothers and sisters. They'll never make you feel you're in a stranger

[marsh robin]

What a clever girl maşallah... Then why ... Whatever u r right we are all fool couldn't analyze our pockets... Look just check the food price gasoline prices they're not complex as 📉

[feral river]

Lamooooo that’s what you said not me

[tulip gazelle]

I think they use them as scapegoat because of erdogan bad policies but he then blame it on syrian and refugee because it easy target and europe also doing it

[feral river]

@versed rain

[desert nebula]

[marsh robin]

Btw why Syrian go there... After a while u know they also don't like us but keep staying here...

[desert nebula]

You know what everytime there's a debate here see this Chinese guy is on which side and you'll know the opposing side is the right person

[feral river]

😂😂😂

[dapper laurel]

Yeaaaaaa, true, we do it all the times, but because they are undeveloped, they don't look brown

[desert nebula]

No wonder from someone supporting terrorists

[feral river]

A Syrian enter Turkey and get a permanent residence!

With a car lmao

[tulip gazelle]

I like the rapper Capo Plaza a lot but i dont know where he from

[feral river]

That was funny bro

[versed rain]

Yep

But i am leaving from the chat

[feral river]

This how explained you guys need fences and guns like us

[tulip gazelle]

Sleep well bro

[dapper laurel]

A half-Calabrian friend of mine, when he passes near us, we make monkey noises

[feral river]

Drive a car into turkey then stay there

Pretty wild

[marsh robin]

Nope irrelevant u don't know about him and talking broo... Erdogan is calling them brother... Supporting them

[tulip gazelle]

At least he knows its a joke cause hes your friend

[desert nebula]

I'm gonna eat then I'll reply you

[dapper laurel]

I don't like Italian music, especially Milanese rappers, they want to be criminals

[dapper laurel]

Yep

[ancient mauve]

Dumb Joao Felix

[desert nebula]

You can search yourself btw instead of just complaining

[marsh robin]

U need to rest a bit...bye

[tulip gazelle]

What about Venetian rappers they have the Venetian mafia and Venice historically was basically mafia trade empire with the doge

[marsh robin]

What shall I search dollar and Turkish lira , rent prices cars?? I knew it already u search

[feral river]

Once you guys need export of fences and guns to deal with those illegal immigrants contact me I will do my best to help you to deal with them

[tulip gazelle]

Do you work for CCP

[dapper laurel]

I knew that they were a maritime republic, and that they had some possessions in Albania and Greece, good thing they were mafia. I think that the mafia didn't really exist before the unification of Italy, it was just an organization that managed cities where pre-unification states couldn't.

[feral river]

I’m not the member of CCP but I do

[tulip gazelle]

How easiest way to get rich?

[feral river]

Get a fuckin job, do business, do investments

[dapper laurel]

According to him, create low-cost labor to invoice more

[tulip gazelle]

It was more a joke, but, the way politics in Venice worked and the Doge was basically a dictator while ruling, it was like Game of Throne with mafia element to it in a sense

[feral river]

Yeah! War!

We haven’t create this field of business yet

But we will do in the future

[dapper laurel]

This should be our motto

[tulip gazelle]

I will buy a lot of clothes in west and resell at very large markup in china

[dapper laurel]

Not "we are women, we are free" or these shi

[feral river]

When you realize clothes in China are cheaper in the west

[versed rain]

I'm leaving it at that. It's not the fence or the gun that's important, it's the politics that matters.
The image is from the Turkish-Syrian border wall. The electrified wire covers the entire Syrian border with an automatic motion monitoring system.

[dapper laurel]

It's basically true

[tulip gazelle]

Yeah but namebrand and rich people buy anything and lot of rich in china

[feral river]

Nice but also need more police to deport those aliens which is already in your country

[versed rain]

But once they are allowed to pass, it doesn't work.

[tulip gazelle]

I like italian and croatian history a lot

For south europe

[versed rain]

This was before the boundary wall was completed. Quite a few police patrols.

[dapper laurel]

I like Croatian girls 🤣🤣

[frank pine]

I like MACNCHEESE

[tulip gazelle]

They look like a lot of balkan girls to me until you get to Bulgaria and Greece

[feral river]

you can see how North Korea is doing this job

they are doing a good job preventing their people out of their country illegally

[tulip gazelle]

They just kill and starve their own people

[dapper laurel]

I don't know much about Croatian history, but there is a sort of rivalry between us, during the Second World War we created concentration camps for the Croats, thousands died, and the croats killed italians in istria when war was ending

[feral river]

when their people is violating the law, like leave their country without permission

or they got prosecuted because they don't clean the hanging image of Kim Joun un

[tulip gazelle]

Croats were pretty bloodthirsty in ww2 but their history longterm was pretty cool

My family always lived in hungary and Poland history wise mainly carpathian and Galicia so i knoe most of hungarian and polish history

[feral river]

yeah that doesn't make sense but you have to follow that if you are live in there

[dapper laurel]

Cool

[feral river]

that is a law

if you don't follow it you will be punished

law is supreme

[tulip gazelle]

Italy had lot of mercenaried who fought for hungary medieval time

But idk how they see hungarian today

[tulip gazelle]

I rather not go to north korea tbh

[feral river]

yeah good to you I don't suggest to go there too even I ever go North Korea

[tulip gazelle]

I would visit china but not korea

[feral river]

I visited both Korea and they are kinda different.

even in June I was in South Korea

[tulip gazelle]

Chinese are allowed in north korea?

[coarse sluice]

Who wanna be friends with me
Dm me. Also I'm beginning in English if you don't have

[feral river]

it's easy to get a travel visa to North Korea for Chinese

and it's so damn cheap

[tulip gazelle]

Do you have to be woth a guide the whole time in north korea

Or can you go wherever you like

[feral river]

yeah you must follow the guide and you are prohibited to go anywhere you want

also not to take photos easily, and not to be disrespect to their leader