🧠｜serious-chat

[charred trail]

Yeah for sure. You want to tell you my favorite team in Egypt or In Europe or both?

In fact, football games on the phone are not good for me. I'm playing PES 2017 but the 2023 update on my laptop

[weary belfry]

Both pls

[coarse sluice]

Ah
Okay are anyone play pes 24 in phone??

[charred trail]

Al-Ahly of Egypt is my favorite team in Egypt and Real Madrid is my favorite team in Europe

[charred trail]

You play it ?

[coarse sluice]

Yes. Did you know it

[charred trail]

@weary belfry I think you know Real Madrid but not Ahly 😅

[weary belfry]

Ooo, so nice

[charred trail]

Yeah I played it pes 2023 on phone but I didn't like it. PES 2024 IS BETTER?

[weary belfry]

Honestly I don't know who Ahly is

[charred trail]

Al-Ahly of Egypt is the champion of the African Champions League 12 times, and Real Madrid is the champion of the European Champions League 15 times.

@weary belfry I understand you don't have any information abyAl Ahly 😅

[coarse sluice]

Yes. Same I didn't like pes 23
But pes 24 is good

[charred trail]

@weary belfry what famous places in Turkey?

[charred trail]

Okay maybe I will download. If I downloaded I will tell you

[weary belfry]

Omg, fr i didnt know. Thanks for information

[weary belfry]

Yes, i am. I hope this doesn't get me into trouble xd

[thorny steeple]

The Chinese imperialist mind can only think of war

[weary belfry]

Like City?

[thorny steeple]

Someone might leak my informations to the real life. Like sending it to people I know IRL

[dapper laurel]

My Serbian friend also only thinks about war, literally his father is a war criminal

[charred trail]

Yeah

[coarse sluice]

So if you download it message me
And if are anyone you know anyone has pes 24 please tell him to play with me
I'm bored

[charred trail]

My cousin play it but he has no Discord

[weary belfry]

İstanbul and there?

[thorny steeple]

I speak a little less faster than the average fluent person but still at a decent pace

[dapper laurel]

Ah, so it has nothing to do with hacking

[charred trail]

What is special about Istanbul? Can you provide short information?

[manic juniper]

It's a city between two continents, separated by the sea

[charred trail]

Nice

[coarse sluice]

Oh. So if you know anyone has discord and pes 24
Please send it

[thorny steeple]

If only Putin doesn't give up soon

[dapper laurel]

https://youtu.be/azNKPM5anok?si=n9UZ-AOyrlMgjSqn @thorny steeple

[charred trail]

Okay bro

[thorny steeple]

Japan: war crimes? Us? Never!
Turkey: we didn't do anything! Armenians are delusional
The average Serbian: my dad is a war criminal

[dapper laurel]

My Serbian friend made me listen to this

[dapper laurel]

Fr, for them it's a flex

[thorny steeple]

Poland vs Netherlands within 30 minutes
Easy W for Poland

[weary belfry]

Istanbul is a historical and touristic city. It is also Turkey's most populous megacity

And there?

[feral river]

Nah that’s peaceful conversation defending our core interests

We don’t love war we love peace, under the rule of unity of Chinese nation

[fringe fox]

Agreed cannot be the same anymore, everyone in the world hate war.

[charred trail]

Great

[weary belfry]

What is the most important city in Egypt?

[charred trail]

There are a lot of beautiful things here. Such as pyramids, museums, mummies, many beaches and many other things

[thorny steeple]

Poland makes it 1-0
🇵🇱🇵🇱

[charred trail]

You support who?

[thorny steeple]

My country (Brazil) but I'm cheering for Poland this time

[sage viper]

great idea my friend, Poland to glory

i am from poland and i did not expect such great football from my country

[thorny steeple]

Poland does have a great time this time and Netherlands have been doing pretty bad for the last 8 years.

It doesn't surprise me, remember that Greece and Portugal won the Euros not too long ago,

[willow granite]

@coral marlin You said that you're not a muslim so how can I out muslim someone who isn't a muslim?

[coral marlin]

I'm just messing with u bro

[willow granite]

And how are you superior to me then?

[coral marlin]

Just try and remember you don't need to defend yourself to random people so much

[willow granite]

Oh ok

[coral marlin]

Well that was also a joke, but I just might be based on this response

[willow granite]

I thought you were going to have a serious argument with me regarding last time

I apologise if I appeared rude bro. My sincere condolences.

[thorny steeple]

hi

[willow granite]

But don't come at me to argue about Islam, that's what made me angry but again. Getting angry is what Satan wants.

Therefore, let's drop it @coral marlin

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[sage viper]

Yup, but we do not have lewandowski in this game, therefore I predicted 3:1 to the Netherland

[coral marlin]

nah ur good

[coral marlin]

well I was trolling but also making that exact point

[thorny steeple]

Is he injured?

[coral marlin]

like just cuz some random dude comes out of nowhere and goes "ur bad at being a muslim" doesn't mean you should react in anger

but also, the point of the dude is still valid

like there was a bit of hypocrisy there

[coral marlin]

🙏

[willow granite]

Well you called yourself superior which made me mad a bit but I digress bro. Have a good day

[sage viper]

Yup, he got injured in the last friendly game before euro

Maybe he will recovery for the next game

[charred trail]

Okay

[charred trail]

They draw now

[spiral blade]

EUROS

[sage viper]

Yes, and it's a great result

[charred trail]

Lewandowski playing?

[sage viper]

Nope

He is injured

[charred trail]

He is injured?

[charred trail]

Oh

[thorny steeple]

I'm streaming Poland vs Netherlands on VC

[charred trail]

Cool

[sage viper]

In the last friendly against ukraine he got injured

[charred trail]

Oh

@sage viper who players famous in Poland?

[sage viper]

Zieliński who plays for napoli
Szczesny who plays for Juventus

Zalewski plays for roma

We have couple of great players

[charred trail]

Szczęsny is still playing? I thought he stopped playing

[charred trail]

Cool

[sage viper]

He is still playing, and he is playing at the highest level

[charred trail]

Nice

@sage viper I know him when he was playing for Arsenal

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, great Gk

[sage viper]

It was a long time ago

[charred trail]

I didn't watch Juventus so I didn't know he is playing there

[charred trail]

Yeah

[sage viper]

He received contract proposition from saudi a couple days ago, but he said that he wants to play at the highest level, and money does not interest him

[thorny steeple]

Which club do you support in Poland?

Legia, Lech...

[sage viper]

I am from poland, but i do not watch polish League.
I prefer to watch premier league or other league.

But i think that lech is my most favourite

I think

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[sage viper]

Gosh, we are cooking. Finally after all these years i enjoy watching polish national team

[charred trail]

The Saudi League, even though I am Arab, does not motivate the players there. Except for Cristiano Ronaldo

[charred trail]

Imagine our Egyptian Al-Ahly team defeating Al-Ittihad Jeddah, which includes Karim Benzema and Kante In the Club World Cup

[sage viper]

Yeah, ronaldo gives 100%. He really wants to score goals there

[thorny steeple]

Semifinals are coming

[sage viper]

Haha, it would be awesome

[charred trail]

Yeah

But this season did not achieve any championship

@sage viper which team you support in Europe?

[sage viper]

To be honest i do not have any team that i love and watch every game, however real Madrid and Man utd are teams that I support

Ehhh 2-1 for Netherland

[real grotto]

Excuse me, sirs, where can I have the book How to speak and how to listen by Mortimer Adler for free?

[charred trail]

Is it a group stage match?

[sage viper]

Yes, it is the first match in the group

[thorny steeple]

Hahahah

There is enough time to draw

[charred trail]

It's okay don't worry still some matchs next

[sage viper]

I hope they will score one more

[charred trail]

I support Real Madrid too

[sage viper]

Yes, to be honest 2-1 for Netherland is not a bad result, poland finally is playing great football

[sage viper]

Hala Madrid

[charred trail]

What is your name? My name is Okbi

[sage viper]

My name is Hubert

[thorny steeple]

Just for you to win the bet

[sage viper]

Thanks dude

Are you watching the euro Okbi?

[charred trail]

Nice name. I am from Egypt. Nice to meet you

[sage viper]

Nice to meet you too. 🙂

[charred trail]

No but I follow results. I will watch the semi-finals and finals

[sage viper]

I have some free time, so i can afford to watch vast majority of the game.

Have you heard about Wirtz's potential transfer to real Madryt

[charred trail]

Cool

[charred trail]

No

But I know Mbappé moved to Real Madrid

[sage viper]

Yes, so we are gonna win another champions league next season haha

[charred trail]

It's dream of Mappe I think

Have you heard about the Egyptian Mbappe?

[sage viper]

No i have not heard about him

The only player from egipt that i know is salah

[charred trail]

I mean a player who looks like Mbappe, and there is a player who looks like Mohamed Salah as well, and they are from Egypt

[sage viper]

Hahaha

He looks the same

[charred trail]

Yeah 😅

@sage viper how old are you bro?

[sage viper]

I am 23

[charred trail]

Really? I am older than you by one year

[sage viper]

Isn't he his brother? Haha

[charred trail]

I am 24 years old

[charred trail]

No 😂

[sage viper]

Wow

[charred trail]

Similar to Karim Benzema

[sage viper]

Is he a professional player?

Is he playing for your league?

[cursive arch]

hi

[sage viper]

Hello

[cursive arch]

any one here muslim

[sage viper]

I am not

[cursive arch]

ok

[charred trail]

It's normal person he is not a footballer

[charred trail]

Yeah I am

[sage viper]

Aaa okay haha

[charred trail]

@cursive arch are you Muslim too?

[charred trail]

Yeah 😅

@sage viper are you married or not yet?

[sage viper]

Nope, i want to live as a single for now

I am not ready for this 🙂

And you Okbi?

[charred trail]

I am single but I want to marry

[cursive arch]

hm

[charred trail]

@cursive arch Eid Mubarak to you and your dear family

@cursive arch where are you from?

[sage viper]

I understand you, brother. Maybe i am 23 but mentally i am still feel like a teenager.

[coral marlin]

well yeah that was waht I was talking about

[charred trail]

A large number of young people in Egypt want to get married but cannot

[sage viper]

Really, why?

[charred trail]

I don't want to say the reasons because you won't believe me and you will scramble, so not saying is better

[sage viper]

Okay, so i will choose the red pill

Or blue, i have not watched matrix

The bottom line is that something it is better not to know

[charred trail]

It is related to the politics of countries that you see as friends of your country, but for me they are enemies

You understand what I mean?

[sage viper]

Okay

It sucks man

In my country there is no problem to get married

[charred trail]

I'll tell you briefly

[dapper laurel]

What do you think of the European elections?

[charred trail]

@sage viper Before the existence of the State of Israel, the Egyptian pound was equivalent to 4 dollars. After the establishment of the State of Israel, which has borders with Egypt, the United States of America worked to impoverish the Egyptian people, and although we were defeated in 1967, we were victorious in In 1973, the United States of America pursued the policy of impoverishing the Egyptian people, and now the dollar is equivalent to 50 Egyptian pounds

[dapper laurel]

Why would the United States do this to you?

[sage viper]

Oh my god

[charred trail]

In order to protect Israel, so that the Egyptian people do not think about war against Israel and only think about how to save money to get food. You do not see how the United States of America supports Israel in the war on Gaza?

[dapper laurel]

I don't think they had any interest in Egypt, maybe they would have sent weapons to Israel, but Egypt had just been decolonized, it was already poor

[charred trail]

You are ignorant and don't know what you are talking about

[sage viper]

I dont have any idea about politics, however i know one thing. War sucks

[dapper laurel]

This doesn't prove anything, it's just inflation

[dapper laurel]

Don't worry brother, I don't want to insult or provoke anyone, I just want to understand the reason for things

[charred trail]

Okay I understand

[charred trail]

Yeah you are right

[dapper laurel]

I thought the Egyptian currency had lost value with the 2011 crisis and debts, but then what did the United States do?

[sage viper]

There is a war between Russia and ukraine, and there is one thing that i am scared of, and it is fighting in the war.

[dapper laurel]

Macron thinks he is Napoleon, we could be involved in a war

[sage viper]

And it doesn't even matter to me who is right, the fact of killing people is so scary

We polish people think that Russia is bad, but the last thing i would like to do is kill a Russian

[charred trail]

A president was elected by the people in 2013, but the United States of America pushed Sisi to eliminate the elected president and he assumed power because he followed the United States of America. Can you believe that someone is Arab and Muslim He has a strong army and does not go to war against people who kill Arabs and Muslims. Can you believe that an Arab and Muslim person would allow anyone from Gaza to enter for 5,000 thousand dollars?

[charred trail]

Everything that Russia killed and the destruction that Russia caused is nothing compared to what Israel is doing in Gaza.Russia does not prevent the entry of food, drink, and medicine into Ukraine, but Israel does so in Gaza

[sage viper]

Oh my god, and i had no clue that there is a war between Egipt and Israel and usa

I feel sorry for you 😦

[dapper laurel]

But that didn't make you poor, right?

[dapper laurel]

I don't know man, would Hamas behave differently if the roles were reversed?

[sage viper]

Man, we (poland) are not engaging in any war, but our inflation is skyrocketing because of that

Because we want to help ukraine

[charred trail]

The external debt before Sisi was $160 billion. Now, in just ten years, it has reached $340 billion

[dapper laurel]

I think it's related to your economic growth, it's proportional

[charred trail]

Hamas released prisoners in very good health, unlike Israel, which released Palestinian Tortured many of whom were subsequently arrested.

[dapper laurel]

Wasn't Hamas the same one that carried out an attack near the Gaza Strip killing more than a hundred people, including women and children, before the war?

[charred trail]

You are ignorant person and you waste my time. It's prefer to say bye to you

[dapper laurel]

And here we go again, what would I have done now?

[thorny steeple]

Cheering for Slovenia this time. Though they won't be enough to stop Hojlund and Eriksen

[dapper laurel]

I don't support Israel or Palestine, I'm a neutral person, but I would like to understand how things really are

What's wrong with that?

[dapper laurel]

I support Denmark, I think they have a good team

[charred trail]

All your information is wrong. You say untrue things about Hamas. I live next to Palestine. I understand and realize a lot of what is happening . where are you from?

[thorny steeple]

They do.
My favourite European time is England, but it always frustrate me. 🙁

[sage viper]

Are you watching the game?

[dapper laurel]

https://youtu.be/upmha0jgJ24?si=YtEIwxxjB8Mlewn6 How can this be false?

[thorny steeple]

I'm gonna turn my laptop on and watch it, just waiting for lunch

[coral marlin]

I don’t pay attention to european politics

What’s going on

[sage viper]

I am watching and supporting Denmark

[coral marlin]

I generally believe i would despise the EU if I lived there

[sage viper]

Nice

[dapper laurel]

They lost to Iceland, and they also lost to us in the final

[dapper laurel]

Some far-right parties won

[charred trail]

Omg you watch News from a country that lies to the whole world, whether Israel or the United States of America. How will I convince you?

[thorny steeple]

I mean friendly games don't matter that much, but that defeat against Italy was the most typical result England could deliver

Their team is the strongest in this Euros tho

[dapper laurel]

Brother, there have been confirmed deaths, are you denying them? If I were a relative of the victims I would feel really frustrated

[sage viper]

Lets gooo

Erkisen 1-0

[charred trail]

https://youtu.be/vBPTojmGP1o?si=ahFwVi6IFDaN04Zw

This has nothing to do with what is actually happening

[charred trail]

Where are you from?

[dapper laurel]

I don't understand Arabic, but it is obvious that there are also Palestinian victims, this is also unfair, the war should end by bringing things back to how they were before the war started

[dapper laurel]

Italy, but it has nothing to do with this

[sage viper]

Oh, i am so sorry then, i will not spoiler you

[charred trail]

https://youtu.be/TPmFWIvfWEs?si=_8197gXsKNhms9FL

[charred trail]

It's in English

[dapper laurel]

Mate, I'll say it again, I'm neutral, I won't pick a side, every human can commit mistakes, so Palestine and Israel, both countries did horrible things, they killed civilians

As a Christian, I can't pick a side when civilians are massacred, it's inhumane

[charred trail]

It is amazing who speaks when the history of his country is full of killing Libyans and colonizing the Arab world

[dapper laurel]

So am I guilty of what my ancestors did?

Now I understand when European politicians say that some want to make us feel guilty about who we are

[coral marlin]

sounds sick

what kind of far right parties?

most of the time people say a party is "far-right" it's moreso saying "I'm far left"

[charred trail]

Give us compensation, although I do not accept those compensations, like what Europe did with Israel when Hitler killed many of them, and I do not want those compensations because they are nothing in return for the people who were killed, but I will give you an example.

[charred trail]

You support Israel with weapons that kill Palestinians. There is no comparison between weapons with Hamas and weapons with Israel. You are still guilty

[dapper laurel]

I wouldn't have paid taxes to give you compensation anyway, colonialism was a bad thing, but I don't feel guilty and neither does my country now

The Arabs killed millions of people during expansion to spread their religion, they invaded the Iberian peninsula and occupied it, you are guilty too then, don't you think?

Now many Arabs in Europe commit many crimes, is this right?

[haughty forge]

Debating about wars won't result in anything. One will support which one they like from their pov .You can't change that.

[dapper laurel]

@acoustic knot bro, stop, you know how is this server, don't share BT here

[dapper laurel]

I don't support anyone, that's the point

[haughty forge]

What will change if we discuss here? Nothing

[dapper laurel]

Ask to AfD members

[haughty forge]

From your pov its bad but from theirs it may seem fair

Tell that to pro zionists, wont work

[charred trail]

The lion does not feel the guilt of killing its prey. You live in a forest, not a planet

[haughty forge]

Its your phiosophy.But reality is not always like that

[lime tiger]

What was the last word you learnt in English?

[charred trail]

You don't know anything to say . That's why you called lies and then lies

[haughty forge]

We can dream about that but it wont happen

[dapper laurel]

What you just said doesn't fit with what I was saying

[lime tiger]

How did you learn english

[haughty forge]

Watched English shows when I was a child, learned English.

[lime tiger]

I have input but no output (except texting)

[haughty forge]

what's your mother tongue language?

[lime tiger]

Turkish / dutch

[haughty forge]

Do you mean speaking?

[lime tiger]

Yeap

[haughty forge]

You can practice with your friends or join this servers vc.

[unique light]

This is not sports, I'm not supposed to pick a team, neither he does

He isn't guilty for supporting someone, both sides suffer, not only Palestine

But what Hamas did wasn't right, as they knew that Israel won't let them capture even a small piece of their land

They knew that Israel is going to bomb them

And no, I don't support bombing of Gaza, but that doesn't mean that I support Palestine

[thorny steeple]

I'm having my FCE exam next week. I was wondering if there are any people here who has been through it. Also, I'm also planning going to the next level and trying out CAE if i pass.

[thorny steeple]

I've never been through it, but there many interviews on youtube you can look up. Also, BritishCouncil offers mock tests for people to practice

[late atlas]

<@&852814479569059840>

[spring zephyr]

Don't.

[prisma cipher]

@acoustic knot you can't say swear word I guess

I thought you mean f.. you by saying fu

@acoustic knot if I remember right that Nemo just hate Russian, I might be wrong. bad memory

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-stare-gif-14318699512326580302

What did he say

Oo good

[unique light]

Well

The video you've sent is inappropriate and I'd even say offensive to some

I don't ask you to, but some people may consider it offensive

[trail bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/бонов-gif-10127212392461527914

[unique light]

Enjoy the break!

[clever bloom]

https://tenor.com/bQuly.gif

[prisma cipher]

Yes, I'm interested too

maybe he made a report about insulting gays

It my guess

no people should be insulted

[unique light]

I'm not a mod so I don't decide

Apparently the mod decided to give him a bit of rest

Ah, fair

Should I change it to "Stand with russia"?

3 Russians don't like what's written in my status. Grand!

It's written in Russian

[prisma cipher]

He think Ukrainian don't speak Russian

He have a lot Ukrainian friends who told him that

[unique light]

But who told ya that?

[prisma cipher]

I mean I don't know how much Ukrainian you know, but you told me that

You told me your Ukrainian friends tell you they don't speak Russian, we were arguing about it

[unique light]

I didn't

As far as I know

Fair

Then why did you move to the US?

Russia says they're fighting against the whole west, not with Ukraine

[thorny steeple]

I can't have an opinion about Ukraine or Russia. I just want the war to end, I don't care about either of them

[unique light]

But you support Russia, right?

[unique light]

👍

[thorny steeple]

Like, more than 200000 people died. As a Christian I can't see this bloodshed and think it's okay

[unique light]

Banned

[thorny steeple]

What did he say? I did not pay enough atention

[unique light]

He said "I support everything, but not Ukraine"

[vagrant swan]

ehrm guys what up

[unique light]

Based mods 🥰

[unique light]

Nothing much, what's up with you

How is it going?

[vagrant swan]

rn , im eepy . in general life is alright

[prisma cipher]

he was banned because he doesn’t support Ukraine, he didn’t offend anyone, he just said I don’t support Ukraine and got banned?

I ask. I don't read the chat. And have no idea what he told.

[agile lake]

he was banned for insulting gays

[prisma cipher]

Got it

[unique light]

Be a gay or not is a choice of yours, but he shouldn't have sent that video to show how he disrespects them

As well as telling how bad Ukrainians are, how he hates Ukraine etc.

We're here to discuss, not to hate

[thorny steeple]

In my opinion, there are some countries that are destroying Ukraine and giving it weapons instead of stopping reaching a solution and ending the conflict.

[unique light]

Yea, should those countries tell Ukraine to surrender and become a part of Russia?

🤦🏻‍♂️

[proper pewter]

Ayyy owww lets go

[unique light]

There won't be a solution, unless Russia will stop it.

[proper pewter]

Hey iseal

[unique light]

Hi

[proper pewter]

I will sens you the link of a song

Tell me if you like it

[unique light]

Sound

I mean cool

I always say "sound" instead of saying "cool" or something else 😫

[proper pewter]

https://youtu.be/iymtpePP8I8?si=GzVtRHBsTQQimWFk

[unique light]

You sound like AI

[proper pewter]

Can you open it now

[unique light]

I can

[proper pewter]

Iseal are you Ukrainian?

[unique light]

Too much slang

[thorny steeple]

He's from the hood

[unique light]

😂

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Hi brother

[feral river]

GUYS, IM BACK TO CHINA 🇨🇳

[rugged vigil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VNEvvW-CfyM?feature=shared

[unique light]

No promotions

[marsh robin]

Is it forbidden on the channel

[velvet ridge]

Glad to hear it

[feral river]

well in my opinion, there are some countries dreaming that they could dominate the middle east and they screwed up totally and crying because their enemy is destroying them

[velvet ridge]

China is number 1 in the world

[feral river]

well not gonna lie I love my country 😄 People's Republic of China 🇨🇳 even I'm a capitalist not a nationalist or a communist

[velvet ridge]

China's gormentent tries to get the country better

Everyone should be communist

[thorny steeple]

hey yo what's up did you miss me

[thorny steeple]

who is communist

china?

lol you guys should learn what is the state capitalism

[wise marlin]

Love this.

[thorny steeple]

dont worry your country is capitalist 😂

[main bison]

Do you also love your government?

[night cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086042938053754961/1089434374090543214/4x-2.gif

they r having a serious convow

[prisma cipher]

Why not, what if with bad in your opinion government their economic going be number 1 in the world, should he want to change it

[astral pagoda]

Is it hard to learn chinese without learning the writing system?

[unique light]

🤦‍♂️

[astral pagoda]

So, there are some protected classed in this chat?

Is it not allowed to them?

Some countries support lgbt, some don't.
Do we have to follow the rules of those supporting countries?

[manic juniper]

Discord has terms of service that don't allow that

If you want an app that allows that there is Telegram or you can make your own

[astral pagoda]

So,who are those protected classes?
Are jews included?

[manic juniper]

https://discord.com/safety/hateful-conduct-policy-explainer

"We define hate speech to include any expression that degrades, vilifies, or dehumanizes individuals, incites intense feelings of hostility towards defined groups, or promotes harm based on protected characteristics.

Protected characteristics at Discord encompass various aspects, such as age; caste; color; disability; ethnicity; family responsibilities; gender; gender identity; housing status; national origin; race; refugee or immigration status; religious affiliation; serious illness; sex; sexual orientation; socioeconomic class and status; source of income; status as a victim of domestic violence, sexual violence, or stalking; as well as weight and size."

[unique light]

No, but you're not allowed to insult any people here

Fairly simple

Gays, Jews or Arabs, doesn't matter, be respectful to all

[thorn lagoon]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/china-has-done-human-testing-create-biologically-enhanced-super-soldiers-n1249914

[astral pagoda]

I don't insult
I just criticize with evidence

[unique light]

Do you criticize jews and gays with evidence?

[manic juniper]

Sounds like Hitler

[unique light]

Indeed

[thorn lagoon]

Smells an anti semite

[astral pagoda]

I mean, I want to criticize freely. I don't insult anyone.

[olive gyro]

Capitan China

[manic juniper]

Do you criticise individuals or entire groups?

[unique light]

This was inappropriate, at least

[astral pagoda]

No, I don't think so.
You can't criticize israel in us but you can criticize us itself
that's why I asked

[thorn lagoon]

Israel is spanking arab powers and states.

[astral pagoda]

Yeah, they are using arrows in lebenon right now

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, Arabs used to rule them and had genocided the jews before .
Now , it's Israel's turn

[olive gyro]

His office and the CIA did not immediately respond to requests to elaborate on the notion that China sought to create "super soldiers" of the sort depicted in Hollywood films like "Captain America," "Bloodshot" and "Universal Soldier."

[thorn lagoon]

He pronounced that all the men should be put to death, their possessions to be distributed among Muslims, and their women and children to be taken as captives. Muhammad declared, "You have judged according to the very sentence of God above the seven heavens." Consequently, 600–900 men of Banu Qurayza were executed.

[astral pagoda]

which genocide? you mean Sabra and Shatila?

[thorn lagoon]

Killing of Banu Qurayza jews

[astral pagoda]

I know what you are talking about
but who judged them? was he Mohammed himself?

and what did they do to deserve that?

[main bison]

Is ur name written in a real language ?

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah

[main bison]

what is it

[thorn lagoon]

Manipuri/meitei (which is a sino-tibetan language)

[main bison]

where is it spoken?

[thorn lagoon]

Manipur, India

[main bison]

Is the heart in your name a real letter?

[astral pagoda]

Is it okay to send YT links here?

[main bison]

yep

[thorn lagoon]

Some 40 well-established subgroups, of which those with the most speakers are:
Sinitic (Chinese)
Lolo-Burmese
Tibetic
Karenic
Bodo–Garo
Kuki-Chin
Meitei
Tamangic
BaiJingpho–Luish

[thorn lagoon]

Sino-tibetan language family

[thorn lagoon]

Which heart?

There is no heart

[manic juniper]

The last character

[main bison]

the last letter

[thorn lagoon]

Ohh

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, it's a real character

[manic juniper]

Looks like a normal character to me

[thorn lagoon]

It's similar to the english letter "S"

[manic juniper]

It looks like a smoother M

[unique light]

[thorn lagoon]

Lol yea 😂

[astral pagoda]

https://youtu.be/Z7QbxWxiPTs

In Egypt, there are Muslims as majority and Christians as minority.
We are allies and have to defend Egypt together.
If Christians helped the French people in their invasion, would they deserve what the French army deserved?

This is what happened with jews. They weren't innocent. They were traitors.
The video includes en-sub.

[main bison]

no it's a heart

[main bison]

send english vidoes i can't understand arabic

[astral pagoda]

It has english subtitle

[main bison]

Okay

how are the pyramids in Egypt

[manic juniper]

In shambles

Decadent

[astral pagoda]

Muhammed didn't judge jews.
Sa'ad ibn-mu'adh judged the men to die and the women to be slaves. He was an ally of them before Islam.
But Mohammed refused that and killed only those who thought were traitors

[thorn lagoon]

Muhammad declared, "You have judged according to the very sentence of God above the seven heavens." Consequently, 600–900 men of Banu Qurayza were executed. The women and children were distributed as slaves, with some being transported to Najd to be sold.

[astral pagoda]

the government tried to cover them with marble in order to renew them

[thorn lagoon]

They enslaved the jewish women

And kids

And, Mohammad is supposed to be this perfect ideal man

[astral pagoda]

Yeah, war roles. This is what traitors deserve

[thorn lagoon]

We can use the same argument

[astral pagoda]

What did ps people do to deserve that?

[main bison]

cool
Btw I'm playing AC origins now which is based on Egypt do u know it?

[astral pagoda]

Assassino ! Assassino !

[main bison]

حشاشین اخوی

[manic juniper]

If you believe in collective punishment, then he is right that they also deserve what's happening

[astral pagoda]

for what?

[manic juniper]

If your brother steals, they'd cut the hands of all family members because that's how collective punishment works

[manic juniper]

7 October attacks

[astral pagoda]

I know how it works
but what do ps deserve punishment for?
If hamas killed 1400 israeli, israel killed 1400 palestinians in 2012.

[manic juniper]

Yes, so they are justified in killing more according to your logic

[astral pagoda]

Hamas is a resistence against occupation.

[astral pagoda]

Revenge

[manic juniper]

This is how war crimes and collective punishments work

[astral pagoda]

Yeah. Logic tells me that whoever starts killing innocents deserve punishment.
this is what we call "self defence"

[manic juniper]

Then both sides deserve punishments

[astral pagoda]

but logic says there is only 1st
How come there are to 1st?

[manic juniper]

First what

[astral pagoda]

Who started attacking?

which date comes first
2012 or 2023

[manic juniper]

This isn't how wars work, it isn't like a fight with your siblings where who punches first is at fault. If one side attacks the civilians and the other does the same they're both guilty

[astral pagoda]

10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

bible, deuteronomy 20

[manic juniper]

I don't get why whoever attacked first justifies any subsequent attacks on innocents

[manic juniper]

Not valid for international law

[astral pagoda]

ISIS attacked the twin towers first, right?

[manic juniper]

? What does ISIS have to do with this

[astral pagoda]

this is the jewish law that sa'as judged jews for

[astral pagoda]

They started first
Just an example

[manic juniper]

I literally said that it isn't how it works 🤣

[thorn lagoon]

Isn't that taliban?

[manic juniper]

Not all Jews are religious and not all people there were Jews either

[astral pagoda]

And I think this is how it works
Israel defend themselves by mentioning the right of self defence

[manic juniper]

Ok then why are you complaining if they use their own standards?

[sage viper]

I agree that killing is horrible and it doesn't matter if you kill "bad" or "good" people

[astral pagoda]

Yeah, but they didn't die because they were jews. they helped enemies against muslims in madina

[thorn lagoon]

Sure, but we don't live in an ideal world.
War and conflict is a reality and we must have the necessary material conditions to defend ourselves and that includes arming yourselves and killing/ neutralizing your enemies

[astral pagoda]

They use the same argument I'm using.
"hamas started and we have to respond"

[sage viper]

For instance I can't imagine killing a Russian even if they started a war against Ukraine

[manic juniper]

Then they are on the same level as you

[sage viper]

Yup

[manic juniper]

You should be happy that they are enforcing the law that you follow

[astral pagoda]

A man grabbing a knife and ready to kill you, will you just defend? will he stop if you take the knife? You have to survive

[sage viper]

But that's killing in self-defense

[manic juniper]

Were the women and children guilty?

How can a child be guilty?

[astral pagoda]

It's not a law. It's logic.
I think they are right if we consider the start of the conflict is 2023, not 2012 ,2014 , 2015 , 1967 , 1948 , sabra and shatila and others

[manic juniper]

It's very poor and nonsensical logic

[astral pagoda]

What would jews do if they won against muslims?

[manic juniper]

They already won against Muslims

[astral pagoda]

okay let me make it simple
if i slapped someone, does he have the right to take revenge or not?

[manic juniper]

Plus generalizing all Jews when many of them don't even live in Israel lol

[hazy ledge]

I'm agree with you, bro

[astral pagoda]

And got 600 men killed?

[manic juniper]

No, he has to report

[astral pagoda]

to what?

[thorn lagoon]

If you go back way further in time, it's actually the arabs that attacked and invaded Israel

[manic juniper]

To the higher authority

[thorn lagoon]

Siege of Jerusalem

[astral pagoda]

to International Criminal Court؟

[manic juniper]

Yes

[marsh robin]

What?

[thorn lagoon]

In 637 or 638, Caliph Umar ( r. 634–644) traveled to Jerusalem in person to receive the submission of the city. The Patriarch thus surrendered to him. The Muslim conquest of the city solidified Arab control over Palestine, which would not again be threatened until the First Crusade in 1099.

[marsh robin]

Are u kidding lol

[astral pagoda]

They already ordered to arrest israeli and hamas leaders
but america has another pov
they threaten to invade Netherlands

[thorn lagoon]

Iam not

[manic juniper]

I know

[astral pagoda]

So if the court can do nothing, what should he do?

[marsh robin]

So u claim Jews who live in Israel today has DNA as same as who live thousands years ago so they have heritage rights

[thorny steeple]

yo what is the topic

[hazy ledge]

Civilians are innocent and they don't deserve to be slaughtered.

[marsh robin]

According to you American people have to live continent

[manic juniper]

Defend himself, not attack the family of the person that slapped him. Or anyone related to him. Or anyone with the same nationality. Or anyone that is around him regardless of which group they belong to

[hazy ledge]

Americans want to make money from war.

[thorny steeple]

it is palestine who has same DNA with them

[hazy ledge]

Money is the most important thing for them

[thorny steeple]

not israel

[thorny steeple]

just america? all terrorist states

what is the topic btw can someone explain

[hazy ledge]

You are right

[marsh robin]

If u will talk like that in that logic everyone has to replace because they stole someone else' lands 100 300 1000 years ago

[thorn lagoon]

Don't be dumb.
There were exodus of jews from Israel during the revolt against Roman .
So, jews mixed in with other European people

[astral pagoda]

Is he wrong if he took revenge? I think they are both guilty because being the second in the conflict doesn't give the right to take revenge. you said "it's a poort argument", didn't you?

[thorn lagoon]

The European ancestry in jews came from maternal side, not paternal

[thorny steeple]

i dont like hamas but palestinian people dont have any military power than hamas against israel

[manic juniper]

Like I said, attacking his relatives makes no sense. Attacking him at least makes some sense, I said it's a poor argument because you justified attacking anyone around them

[marsh robin]

Dumb 🤔. So before Jewish who lived in Jeruselam let's give land back to them

[manic juniper]

Those people don't exist anymore

[thorny steeple]

israel kills all palestinians without looking religion, ideology etc.

[hazy ledge]

It's absolutely antihuman

[thorny steeple]

hamas isnt the biggest threat against humanity

i am not muslim but israel is worse

[marsh robin]

So ... Then Jewish can't say Arabs attacked us 7th century because these people don't exist anymore

[hazy ledge]

We should remember Aaron Bushnell's death

[thorny steeple]

i cant understand people who hate hamas because they are muslim because israel is also jew

[manic juniper]

The Jews exist, the other Canaanite tribes do not

[thorny steeple]

and they are also imperalist

[astral pagoda]

I didn't mentio attacking innocent people when I said whoever started is the real guilty. Isreal started genocide against ps people even before 1948. All ps people wanna take revenge for their relatives who dies, their homes which were occupied.

[marsh robin]

☝️ Answer that should all American go back to Europe

[marsh robin]

How do u know that

[manic juniper]

Many people in October 7th attack were innocent, they were just civilians some not even Israeli

[astral pagoda]

It's a conflict that starts when britain decided to create israel, not in 2023

[manic juniper]

Because they were absorbed or destroyed by Jews, Romans and Arabs

[marsh robin]

Do u think the war just started in 7th October

[obtuse perch]

The question is did anyone hurt em u saw em when hamas give em back they were happy 😁

[manic juniper]

I never said that lol if you have a real argument please put it forward

[marsh robin]

Let's say they converted or assimilated one of them

[astral pagoda]

They are hostages. There are many ps hostages in israel before 2023.
That's why hamas want them free to accept ending war.

[manic juniper]

Please use English

[obtuse perch]

Real

[manic juniper]

Wikipedia says that around 700 civilians were killed

So yes they were hurt pretty bad

[marsh robin]

What do u argue exactly

[manic juniper]

If I'm hurt to the point I'm dead I guess it was a very hard hit

[astral pagoda]

you mean from banu quraiza?

[manic juniper]

Targeting civilians isn't really moral or good, the other user seems to think it's justified somehow because it's written on a book

[marsh robin]

True targeting civilians unacceptable

[manic juniper]

I don't think there are numbers for that, but yes, the children of theirs weren't guilty unless you want to claim that they were

[obtuse perch]

||لا يقرؤون و عندما يقرؤون لا يفهمون الله يهديهم بس||

Im out enjoy

[pearl cypress]

Which book?

[astral pagoda]

According to jews law, it was fine to do this to non-jews.
Is it unfair to judge people based on their law?

[manic juniper]

I don't know. He quoted it. I guess it's the Bible

[astral pagoda]

bible deuteronomy 20

[manic juniper]

Using law from 3000 years ago seems pretty stupid to me when we have established international agreements and constitutions

[thorn lagoon]

If native Americans were strong enough, they would have expelled the Europeans.
But, Europeans had the advantage and they got conquered.
If native Americans had the power , logistics, sea infrastructure , etc, they would have also conquered the europeans and europeans would have faced the same situation..

I don't like the victim mentality.

The world works on survival of the fittest .

Are you sure if Palestinian arabs had the power, wouldn't they exert the same humiliation they are facing toward the jews?
Iam preety sure they would as they had before.

[astral pagoda]

but muhammed killed jews of qurayza 1400 before

[thorn lagoon]

Conquer or get conquered

[manic juniper]

It's still quite stupid, he was no better than them then

He was just as bad if not worse

[manic juniper]

The Muslim Brotherhood was receiving funds from the nazi party

[astral pagoda]

palestine was a safe place for jews who escaped europe
yemen also used to be a shelter for them

but who created Armed militias in palestine before 1948

[pearl cypress]

Says who?

[astral pagoda]

So, he may be worse because he judged them a better judgement than theirs?
He didn't kill them "ALL". He killed only men who were traitors to al madina Charter

[marsh robin]

Then there's no moral no ethics just F@ it. Then why we argue about who's right or false just say social darwinism, stronger wins doesn't matter which way they used to win. The point here Isreal keep expanding and stealing lans who belongs to other and try to legalize it base on made up beliefs or story. Today Palestine tomorrow Lebanon Jordan etc...

[manic juniper]

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/genealogy-of-evil/nazi-seed-in-islamic-soil/6BE7DEE0F5AD00AF7B641C901B3317C8

[marsh robin]

Oh sh!t how did u made up that lady

[astral pagoda]

lebanon is yesterday, not tommorow
sabra and shatila was in lebanon

[manic juniper]

It's public knowledge

[thorn lagoon]

Are you a muslim?
Muslim under Mohammed literally invaded others and were expansionist .

What ethics and morality are you even talking about lol?

[manic juniper]

I don't know why you would like the Muslim Brotherhood, not even the government of Egypt liked them and they were eventually expelled at least once

[marsh robin]

Arabic peninsula safe for Jews 🤔...

[thorn lagoon]

Damn 👀

[astral pagoda]

It used to be before jews created Armed militias and killed thousands of ps people.
that's why arabs attacked them in 1948

[marsh robin]

I didn't say there shouldn't any battle there will be anyway but there's law and reasonable causes .... U have to analyze conjecture and decide that

[astral pagoda]

NAZIs filled the desert with mines.
I don't trust that source.

[shell lily]

the ppl who were killed in 1948 and displaced are also innocent ppl
double standards

[manic juniper]

I don't trust a random person on Discord

[thorn lagoon]

Reasonable causes?
Stop coping
It's nothing more than human's desire to conquer, expand and love for power

[manic juniper]

Double standards? Where did I say it was fair? Worthless contribution

[marsh robin]

If u cut my commercial ways and water sources it's reasonable

If u interfer my inner affairs it's reasonable

[shell lily]

cuz you were talking about ppl who were killed on october the 7th, yet forgot to mention where it all started

[astral pagoda]

https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1/118807/Egyptian-Armed-Forces-remove-25M-mines-dating-back-to-World

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-idea-what-i-am-doing-look-busy-pokemon-clefairy-gif-5011404

[manic juniper]

I didn't forget to mention, it just wasn't needed. My argument was that attacks on civilians are bad, if you disagree just say so

[manic juniper]

I guess you aren't able to read, I said that not even the government of Egypt liked the Muslim Brotherhood

[thorn lagoon]

Invasion of persia, siege of Jerusalem, etc

[manic juniper]

.

[astral pagoda]

I don't like them, too

[manic juniper]

Then why are you denying that the nazi party financed them

[shell lily]

do u think israelis have as much as casualties as palestinians
1k against 40k

[marsh robin]

It is bad doesn't matter Hamas or Israel but showing them same or equal or just blaming Hamas is problem. If u don't condemn Naz!yhu as much as Hamas it's double standard.(don't take it personally)

[manic juniper]

no

[shell lily]

you didnt have to mention it

[astral pagoda]

They don't represent me.
Nazis had allies and so do all other countries.

[shell lily]

so why you are advocating them

[manic juniper]

I was advocating for civilians regardless of the time period or nationality

Again, if you have a problem with that just say so

[marsh robin]

Look in the past borders wasn't recognized as today (even today it's controversial) so when someone try to do something in area other one comes and say that's mine etc... Then war happened

[astral pagoda]

1400 including nearly 350 solidiers
in 2012
1400 including 350 hamas solidiers

oct 7th, right?

[shell lily]

i have a problem advocating for 1k casualties and marginalizing 40k

[shell lily]

wdym

[manic juniper]

So those 1k don't matter just because they're less, got it

[thorn lagoon]

The Umayyad Dynasty came to rule the Caliphate in 661 CE, and during the first half of the 8th century CE, a series of battles took place in the Indian subcontinent between armies of the Umayyad Caliphate and Indian kingdoms situated to the east of the Indus river,[1] subsequent to the Arab conquest of Sindh in present-day Pakistan during 711 – 713 CE

[astral pagoda]

I mean that Hamas did in 2023 what israel did in 2012
I didn't even mention 2014/2015/2016 /2008 ...etc.

[thorn lagoon]

It seems youre coping...Arabs were expanding ..They invaded India without sharing much interaction or border

[shell lily]

so if i kill one person vs killing 100k
in a dispute i should advocate and focus on that 1 person? got it

[thorn lagoon]

Arabs were expanding during the period

[marsh robin]

If they did it just to attack and conquer it's false I don't deny that

[astral pagoda]

"They are both guilty"

[manic juniper]

I never focused on just those 1k, it's just a thing you want to be true to feel better

[manic juniper]

Yes

[astral pagoda]

Yeah. Great times!

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, now, their time is over

[astral pagoda]

do you condem 2012?

[haughty forge]

Whenever the topic is about the massive genocide in gaza. Pro Israel supporters only bring whataboutism as a logical fallacy.

[manic juniper]

Yes

[astral pagoda]

and 2008?

[thorn lagoon]

and cant do nothingth

[manic juniper]

I don't like Israel, it's an ethnostate

[thorn lagoon]

they are being humiliated

by the superior jews

[manic juniper]

I don't know what happened in 2008, if I did maybe I would

[thorn lagoon]

good times

[astral pagoda]

Egypt has the right to declare war legally because what israel did in rafah and sinai in 2024.

[marsh robin]

If someone kill your baby what would you do a..

[astral pagoda]

Like any other year before 2023
thousands of ps victims in ghaza

[manic juniper]

That's bad

[marsh robin]

Dumbest thing I've ever heard.... Thousands of women and children died

[haughty forge]

Bringing the argument of october 7th again and again doesn't validate the ongoing killings of Palestinian civilians daily.

[thorn lagoon]

Mohammed also enlsaved jewish women and children

[astral pagoda]

that's "Revenge"
And civilian victims are considered "Side consequences"

[thorn lagoon]

when it happens to you , you are crying

[astral pagoda]

for what?

[thorn lagoon]

seems hypocritical

[marsh robin]

They stroke hospital, destroyed houses

[manic juniper]

You should stop seeing the world in black and white. When my country was counterattacking the Soviet Union it was guilty of war crimes as well and I'm not justifying those or I'm not proud of it just because we were defending ourselves

[marsh robin]

Whataboutism are we discussing religion here?

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, because hamas are hiding cowardly within the civilian population

[astral pagoda]

Muhammed and jews were allies
what happened? They just did what they are used to do and betrayed muslims

[manic juniper]

@haughty forge

[marsh robin]

So it's legit to kill hundred civilian for one Hamas militan

[shell lily]

israel is the reason hamas exists
dont make them equal

[astral pagoda]

maybe you're right
but I still think that taking hostages is not a problem since there are many ps hostages in israel prisons.

[marsh robin]

Then Usa was right to bomb by nuke because Japanese soldier were hiding inside civilians

[manic juniper]

Ok

[astral pagoda]

A quote
Of cousr occupation creates resistence

[thorn lagoon]

so, youre saying israel should let these terrorist go free without any consquences ?

[haughty forge]

One question, what should have the Palestinian people do when they were attacked before October 7th ?

[manic juniper]

Attack military targets

[haughty forge]

Only leave their land or die?

[thorn lagoon]

If japan had the nukes first , they would have NUKED the U.S

[manic juniper]

Attack military targets and engage in guerrilla warfare

[marsh robin]

🧐 Israel is occupier they have be encountered with consequences

[astral pagoda]

So, you say ps should let israel continue what they have done in 2012?
israel casualties in 2023 = ps casualties in 2012

[thorn lagoon]

Its their ancestral land

[astral pagoda]

lots of assumptions

[marsh robin]

😂 who said that

[haughty forge]

Though I don't justify killings of civilians.What Hamas did was an outrage of what they have been suffering for long

[thorn lagoon]

what assumption ?

[astral pagoda]

the state of israel exist because of militias

[marsh robin]

Who decided ancestral lands here. Mine is half of China and big part of Asia so all lands belong to me

[marsh robin]

Then Us people have to leave USA 🙂

[astral pagoda]

"if others had the power, they would do the same"
with that logic, i would say :" If jews won on muslims and muhammed, they would do the same and worse according to their bible rules"

[thorn lagoon]

Try doing it

[manic juniper]

I know, I think their existence makes sense because desperation breeds extremism and unfortunately you only wish for your safety regardless of who's in charge of it

[astral pagoda]

So it depends on power, not logic

[thorn lagoon]

what logic are you talking about ? lol .its just reality

[astral pagoda]

the reality is that many peoples are not the native people

If you have the power, you can restore your land.

[thorn lagoon]

yes

[haughty forge]

When a country supports any US ally they are legit. When they support the opposite they are extremist and terrorist 💀

[astral pagoda]

And we wanna restore ps when there was 5% jews and 85% muslims who lived in peace before israeli militias existed

[thorn lagoon]

and, jews want to restore how it was before arab invasion and siege of jerusalem

but, to materialize this , it all depends on power

the thing is palestinian are weak

[manic juniper]

That's too black and white

[thorn lagoon]

israeli are strong

militarily

no need to cope

[astral pagoda]

they did that by militias
They killed thousands of palestines before declaring their country

[astral pagoda]

The strongest country decides the rules. This is how it works.
That's why america will invade netherlands if they arrested is president

[velvet ridge]

China

[thorn lagoon]

How did arabs siege jerusalem ? through peace ?

or through violent conquest and war ?

[astral pagoda]

the video is corrupted

[thorny steeple]

is china communist lol

we cant even call marxists as communist

lol

[astral pagoda]

you sent a message of omar ibn al khattan

i want that message and can't find it here

[astral pagoda]

Zionist political violence refers to acts of violence or terrorism committed by Zionists in support of establishing and maintaining a Jewish state in Palestine. These actions have been carried out by individuals, paramilitary groups, and the Israeli government, from the early 20th century to the present day, as part of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In the pre-state period (1920s-1940s), Zionist paramilitaries like the Irgun, Lehi, Haganah and Palmach engaged in violent campaigns against British authorities, Palestinian Arabs, and internal Jewish dissenters to advance their political goals

How israel started as a state

[thorn lagoon]

how did islamization of jerusalem and israel started ?

right , through war and conquest

and enslavement

arabs were strong back then

but now israeli is stronger retaking their hertiage and territory and arabs are crying like victim

[astral pagoda]

You're justifing massacres against innocent people because of a piece of info with no source

[thorn lagoon]

simple psychological underpinning of the current conflict

[astral pagoda]

palestine was a roman state, not jewish
romans started the war against muslims when they killed their messenger.
That's why muslims kept fighting romans until they reached palestine.

[thorn lagoon]

now both romans and caliphate have gone

and israeli are retaking back their territory

[marsh robin]

So if Israel attack Germany they're right according to your logic

[astral pagoda]

by massacres

[manic juniper]

Should we give Palestine and Israel to the romance speaking countries? Especially to Italy, or the closest one like Romania

[thorn lagoon]

why not

[astral pagoda]

jews have the right to invade all europe since most of them are europeans

[thorn lagoon]

invasion and war is a human reality

[marsh robin]

When there was Ottoman it was better ig

[astral pagoda]

Romania kept the name only
Real romans are italians

[manic juniper]

Romans did it better, they had an enormous temple dedicated to Jupiter in Jerusalem

[marsh robin]

Ottoman wasn't anti-Semitic they saved Jews from Spains and hosted but nowadays...

[manic juniper]

They speak a language that comes from Latin, so they have just as many rights, Rome wasn't an ethnostate and they had Dacian emperors too

[thorn lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/mongol-empire-evelotion-demographics-gif-17340392

i want this back

[marsh robin]

Mongols

[astral pagoda]

Yeah
They should have started with india

[marsh robin]

Lol

[marsh robin]

India belongs to Alexander the great

[thorn lagoon]

Arabs invaded India without provocation and they were equally being expantionist as all empire were ( iam not even blaming them )

[astral pagoda]

Egypt belong to black people

[manic juniper]

Yes, it belongs to Nubians

[thorn lagoon]

Baghdad

[marsh robin]

Kashmir is Pakistan

[astral pagoda]

I should be afraid

I'm not black
black people from african countries will make a new israel here

but sisi is here to stop them

😎

[thorn lagoon]

africans are being colonised by the chinese

all over again

[thorn lagoon]

This doesnt trigger me

[haughty forge]

The first human trace was found in Africa. We all are somewhat African by blood

[manic juniper]

No

[haughty forge]

[manic juniper]

I'm from Antarctica

[astral pagoda]

Darwin said that

[thorn lagoon]

greeks were civilized by the africans

[high nacelle]

محتاج مساعدة !!

[astral pagoda]

Yeah I wanna have a better gpu card

[manic juniper]

Have you watched The Phantom Menace? Do you remember what happens after they blow up the droid control ship?

[high nacelle]

Gbu !! Idk wht is this hhhhh

[thorn lagoon]

xbox

[high nacelle]

Yeaah yeah muslim

[astral pagoda]

expensive hardware

[haughty forge]

Enough serious chat today. We should do some fun chat as its Eid here now.

[high nacelle]

Hhhhhh . Why you need that ! In my opinion u just want Ak-45

[astral pagoda]

I need some tnt

I have a mission

It's funny when people support idioligies because of some short videos

[high nacelle]

وقتاش حيفتحو لنا الحدود على اسرائيل 🙃 قل لمصر تفتح الخطوط

[thorn lagoon]

But , their impact on world history lives on

[astral pagoda]

||افتحوا الحدود يا مصاروة باش نحرر القدس||

[thorn lagoon]

russia and later turkic empire were mongol legacy

[manic juniper]

The Soviet Union lasted even less than the Mongol empire

[thorn lagoon]

it wouldnt haven happened without the mongol invasion

[astral pagoda]

there are many videos like yours for every country and idiology

https://tenor.com/view/king-king-baldwin-king-baldwin-4-rikoamv-riko-amv-gif-8479237540916603760

[high nacelle]

اخبرني هل يوجد حد هنا بيستهزأ بالعرب !!

[high nacelle]

It's makkah bro

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorn lagoon]

ohh, sorry

[high nacelle]

Wttf 🙃🙃 u r soo stupid

[haughty forge]

Ka'ba*

[thorn lagoon]

was jesus a muslim ?

I have seen muslim saying that

didnt know it was stupid

[haughty forge]

Muslim means one who submits their will to the God

[manic juniper]

Hippopotamus means river horse

[thorn lagoon]

They said Jesus prostrated to God

[manic juniper]

I don't think anyone considers hippopotamuses to be horses

[high nacelle]

لا يعرفها

[thorn lagoon]

and muslim also prostrated to god

[haughty forge]

According to Islam Jesus was a prophet and preached the words of God like other prophets. He was not superior or equal to God.

[thorn lagoon]

thats islamophobic 😡

are you calling muslims as sheeps ?

[haughty forge]

Sorry, I don't know Arabic

[high nacelle]

Tell someone to translate the verse for you what it means

[thorn lagoon]

how did he mulitply breads then ?

can Mohammed multiply breads?

i know he cut the moon in half

[haughty forge]

Different prophets had different miracles

[thorn lagoon]

but that seems like a show off

more than anything

while mutiplying bread atleast fed some people

[manic juniper]

Ilmarinen visited the realm of the deads

[thorn lagoon]

whos that

[manic juniper]

A shaman/demigod

[high nacelle]

Stupid

[thorn lagoon]

No multiplyinG breads so take the L

[thorn lagoon]

Also such a humble miracle

Mohammed has some ego i think

flexing

how does cutting the moon in half benefit anyone ?

while multiplying breads on the other hand mhhmmm

[manic juniper]

The traitors were living inside the Moon

[thorn lagoon]

possible

[haughty forge]

What is the main purpose of a miracle?

Answer that

[manic juniper]

The Moon was a traitor because it brought the night when they needed sunlight to attack

[thorn lagoon]

which religion ?

[dapper laurel]

Doing unconditional good, I think

[manic juniper]

Baltic Finnic paganism

[haughty forge]

Proof of their prophecy

[dapper laurel]

"their"?

[thorn lagoon]

I seee

[dapper laurel]

Exactly who?

The miracles?

The prophets? The flies fluttering in the air?

[haughty forge]

Each prophet had a miracle.They showed their miracles to their people as a sign of their prophecy

[dapper laurel]

A miracle happened in Brazil that was not predicted by any prophet

Like many other things

[haughty forge]

Which one

[dapper laurel]

The miracle does not necessarily have to be useful to the prophets

[haughty forge]

Yeah

[unique light]

Was it predicted in the Bible?

[dapper laurel]

A child was healed from an incurable disease by doctors, he was about to die, but after touching an object belonging to Carlo Acutis (a boy devoted to God who died of leukemia) he was inexplicably cured

The medical commission declared the recovery miraculous, so it is a miracle, Carlo Acutis has become a saint

[astral pagoda]

non-muslims asked for it to believe him
then said their eyes were tricked by magic

he wasn't flexing

[thorn lagoon]

yeah,Mohammed was probably a sorcerer

many such cases

[manic juniper]

Maybe he was a shaman

[astral pagoda]

do you believe in magic?

[haughty forge]

I didn't know about this incident. I will talk about this later after doing some research

[dapper laurel]

It is not the only case, a South American girl in Italy had an accident with her bicycle, suffering serious brain damage, incurable, after having come in contact with some of his relics, she was cured

[astral pagoda]

There is a statue of jesus which cried oil.
They later found it was a trick by the egyptian church

[thorn lagoon]

I have to take the empirical attitude here

i wont believe it unless i experience it myslef

but even then sensory experience can also be tricked

[astral pagoda]

So mohammed was a sorcerer but you don't believe in magic

[thorn lagoon]

or manipulated

or straight up false

[dapper laurel]

I will not respond to this provocation, peace brother

[thorny steeple]

and what's that mean? "shaman"

[astral pagoda]

manipulate eyes

[manic juniper]

Ask to the dictionary bot

[thorny steeple]

can't u tell me?

[manic juniper]

I could

[thorn lagoon]

Are you a finnish pagan ?

[astral pagoda]

You should have critical thinking. Some miracles are false. But, there are also some miracles related to some patiens.

[thorny steeple]

so go ahead if u don't mind

[manic juniper]

No but I know some of the lore

[astral pagoda]

magic user

[manic juniper]

I'm lazy

[thorn lagoon]

nah lmao

shamans arent "magic user"

[manic juniper]

They are bridges between worlds

[astral pagoda]

this is what translation says

[thorn lagoon]

yeah like contacting spirits

[dapper laurel]

In religion there must always be a bit of faith, you cannot use 100% critical thinking

[thorn lagoon]

or ancestral spirits

[manic juniper]

They can have some powers

[thorn lagoon]

or speak in prophesy

through a trance state

[astral pagoda]

Yeah, but don't believe oil miracle because truth is now revealed

[thorny steeple]

oh u must explain your “statement,” and if you can't do that, u should not present ur opinion
that's my pov about it

[astral pagoda]

How is this related to mohammed?

[thorny steeple]

bye

[manic juniper]

How fragile lol cry in the corner

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, brother, I won't believe it anymore 👍🏻🤠

[thorn lagoon]

we were talking about shamans

not Mohammed

[astral pagoda]

You've got great hunter eyes

[astral pagoda]

who was he

[thorny steeple]

u have a very low level of argument do u know that?

[manic juniper]

I wasn't even arguing, it was just an opinion

[dapper laurel]

Let's say they aren't exactly "hunter eyes", but thanks anyway

@astral pagoda Where are you from?

[manic juniper]

I think you got offended too easily, let it go

[astral pagoda]

Egypt

[thorny steeple]

In fact you don't even have arguing level tbh

[dapper laurel]

There are many Egyptians here, nice, your country has a lot of history

[manic juniper]

So much anger

[astral pagoda]

where is "here"?

[dapper laurel]

This server

[thorny steeple]

Insult about what? I am not on either side. I was curious to receive information from you, but I was shocked by your opinion

[astral pagoda]

yeah
there are many here because education in egypt may be the worst

poor english

[manic juniper]

Then get over it, I'm not here to explain like the dictionary bot does

[thorny steeple]

I want to know how you see this, not the dictionary

[dapper laurel]

Don't be so severe to your country, Egypt has a great future, if Ethiopia doesn't do anything rn

[manic juniper]

What is there to explain? Someone that seemingly uses magic may be a sorcerer (according to the other user), or maybe a shaman (according to me), or something else

[thorny steeple]

You could have told me that a little while ago, before we wasted our time on nonsense Well thank you

[astral pagoda]

Future? Hope? We forgot what are these words in Egypt.
We are waiting for our ending here.
I wish I was born nothing else but egyptian

[manic juniper]

No one needed an explanation because what we said was obvious 🤣

[thorny steeple]

I just came, so I don't know what you're talking about. If I was shocked by your word, I wouldn't know its meaning

[manic juniper]

Was it better under the Ptolemaic dynasty?

[astral pagoda]

No
Egypt has many ups and downs
now we are in the deepest bottom

[dapper laurel]

Bro, Egypt has a lot of potential, you literally have a big population, thousands of minds that if worked together could make your country great again

[manic juniper]

Their big population isn't very good, the government sucked bad at urban planning

[prisma cipher]

Sounds like Trump

[manic juniper]

It would've been better had they planned it properly

[astral pagoda]

Government consider our population as a problem
Great minds leave Egypt because there is no appreciation
I wanna be proud of my country, but I can't.

[dapper laurel]

Here in Europe we have the opposite problem, we no longer have a large population, minds that can work together

[astral pagoda]

Big population is a gift if you can exploit it

[manic juniper]

Yes, the declining population is bad but no European country is as badly planned as modern Egypt

[astral pagoda]

"Old lady"

[manic juniper]

It's one giant catastrophe ready to happen at any moment

[astral pagoda]

Trees are having a buzz cut 😂
it reached 50 degree in some cities here

[prisma cipher]

Sad

[dapper laurel]

Egypt is a developing country, in Italy we say "tempo al tempo" which basically means "time to time"(And I'll be sincere, i don't know If this is said in other countries). However, Egypt needs to recover from years of colonialism, this isn't an easy challenge

[manic juniper]

Yes, I know what that means, but having 95% of your population in 5% of your entire country, insisting on building along the Nile, that's just bad planning and the more it develops this way the worse it'll be unless they depopulate the Nile and build cities elsewhere

[thorn lagoon]

You have that annoying auto rikshaw there in egypt too ?

[astral pagoda]

bro colonialism ended 70 years ago
Germany is now the strongest economy after what happened 70 years ago

[astral pagoda]

We call it "toktok"

[manic juniper]

Another bad thing about Egypt is where investments go, instead of clearing their debts they keep buying weapons and their debts pile up

[thorn lagoon]

blaming colonialism for your inefficiency is a cUUUck and slave mentality

[thorn lagoon]

Interesting

[manic juniper]

If I'm not wrong Italy's biggest weapon customer is Egypt

[astral pagoda]

no one can start from zero though

[astral pagoda]

we don't pay in cash
We pay in debts

[manic juniper]

https://youtu.be/Lo0tv_09Ilw

This is a good video about Egypt and it's in Italian

[astral pagoda]

SISI is the opposite of ISIS

[manic juniper]

The country has potential but it needs real planners in the government that are willing to do a lot of work to rebuild Egypt from almost zero

Starting from their debts to the urban planning, addressing poverty...

[marsh robin]

Are u Egyptian

[manic juniper]

No

[astral pagoda]

I am

[thorn lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/egypt-sphinx-pyramid-sparkle-sunrise-gif-16094646

[marsh robin]

Egypt can put pyramids on auction and earn money 💰

[dapper laurel]

It's different, the European developed countries, after the decolonization, subjugated the economy of African countries, they made African countries not economically independent, that's it. It isn't a problem only for Egypt, African currencies are based on some European currencies, they practically do not have an independent economy. Plus there are several coups in African country, that makes their economy unstable. Egypt is also recovering from the riots in 2011, that devastated the north african/ arab world

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/blkpymd-black-pyramid-pyramid-minions-gif-25895237

[dapper laurel]

I know this channel, he also talked about the new Chinese city of Prato

[astral pagoda]

we are still recovering from the riots for 13 years!

[manic juniper]

The issues about Egypt already started with Nasser, good leader or not he wasn't able to establish a standard democracy and it was an almost uninterrupted succession of dictators after dictators

[dapper laurel]

In Italy we are still recovering from the 2008 crisis 😂

[thorn lagoon]

China is not democracy ,yet it is rising

[manic juniper]

Too many incompetent and authoritarian leaders that weren't really interested in making Egypt better for everyone

[thorn lagoon]

China has competent authoritarian leaders

[manic juniper]

China is corrupt, but not to the point of hurting its economy to that extent. Egypt under Nasser was the same

It was getting better but once the house of cards fell it wasn't able to rebuild itself anymore

[thorn lagoon]

https://theprint.in/opinion/eye-on-china/chinas-top-two-leaders-have-doctoral-degrees-in-ccp-education-also-decides-political-power/682617/

[marsh robin]

Democracy in the middle east==civil war funded by Usa

[thorn lagoon]

technocracy

[marsh robin]

Realistic?

[thorn lagoon]

technocrat is the closest thing we can get to philosopher king

[thorn lagoon]

Look at china

[marsh robin]

LoL I don't think so

They use their labor and don't give them welfare

[marsh robin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9XEpshRxrxM?si=ycw27y9UdRCa5896

[marsh robin]

Watch this guy' shorts u'll see

[thorn lagoon]

seems like a cia asset's propaganda

but sure

[marsh robin]

How can u be sure without watching. Ok perhaps but how do u know it's just CIA funded propaganda

He shows videos and material if you have opposite argument to debunk show and cease. 👍

[thorn lagoon]

we cant judge without properly investigating the background story

[marsh robin]

True