🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

Ur a rat

[night cedar]

[thorny steeple]

Lies

[formal pilot]

Where the hell were you

[night cedar]

but it is true

[thorny steeple]

dead

[thorny steeple]

Nuh uh

I won’t be online like I used to anymore

[formal pilot]

Let's leave the serious chat, hop on beginner

[thorny steeple]

Genreal

It’s better

[formal pilot]

Why?? Is everything good?

I'm also pretending to be dead, I'm coming online after ages ngl

[night cedar]

i see

[night cedar]

okey

[thorny steeple]

Hahahahaha why are u pretending

#💭｜general come here

[night cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/617048119426678930/868214054181830656/image0-9.gif

[marsh robin]

Hi

[topaz summit]

Hi

[marsh robin]

Wassup

[topaz summit]

Good and u

[marsh robin]

Fine I'm studying for exams

[topaz summit]

Ok work hard

[marsh robin]

I try

[thorny steeple]

guys

how to make money

from total zero

[warped frigate]

getting a job first then get a promotion and put all saving to business

[thorny steeple]

how to get a job

i'm not living in USA, average low income job here literally wants you to give all your life to the job

[jolly agate]

your current country

[thorny steeple]

Turkey

[jolly agate]

apply to bunch of places tbh

something is better then nothing

[thorny steeple]

right

[marsh robin]

Part time job or freelance maybe internship

[rustic dome]

🙂
👕
👖
I'm serious
Hello👋🙋‍♂️

[feral river]

LMAO

[thorny steeple]

Hi Are you chinese?

[prisma cipher]

[thorny steeple]

???

[thorny steeple]

Hei

[dapper laurel]

That's pretty inaccurate

[unique light]

It's impossible to make money out of nothing, unless you're a magician and I don't know something about you. You either invest in something, and "invest" doesn't necessarily mean investing in something expensive, you could've invested 3 dollars to buy something and resell for 5, just try to find some people who don't understand the price of a used item they are selling, buy something and resell. Would be grand if you could maintain and clean an old/dirty item and resell, as many people sell their old stuff, without giving it a proper look so they can get more money for it, that's your best bet I guess.

Or find yourself a job, but if most people aren't managed to find one in Ireland, I presume it's going to be even harder in Turkey as we have loads or pubs, restaurants and it shouldn't be much of an issue to find a summer job, but unfortunately many people struggle to get one.

Go online and search for tr.Indeed.com, look up for some vacancies and try to find the job you could do. And many things depend on your age as well.

[crisp sky]

Who lives in the US here?

I want to make some US friends here

[late atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/usa-go-team-usa-usa-for-the-win-ftw-flag-gif-15725281

[thorny steeple]

thanks for all the reply

[unique light]

Loads of people, just try to find some with native roles in the voice chats and make a conversation, that would be your best bet

[crisp sky]

Why do you think so?

[thorny steeple]

Come to Ireland for Saint Paddy's Day and meet some Americans in Dublin near Temple Bar. Many will claim they're Irish, but don't take it too seriously. Enjoy yourself and you'll make lots of American friends

[safe crescent]

Demonic Eyes 👀

[whole ruin]

[feral river]

this is fun 🤣

[blazing solstice]

this chat doesnt seem very serious

[whole ruin]

[atomic bone]

a

[pale kindle]

It never is

In War is it ok for civilians to die or should there be consequençe

[dapper laurel]

It is practically impossible for civilians not to die in a war

When a government goes to war it must also expect the death of its civilians

[pale kindle]

But there should atleast be some consquence to it dont you think ? Thousands people die and forgoten in numbers the leader soldiers are clebrated and bodies are burried as if this is normal ?

I understand that in a war civilians will die but its not like the countries in war even tries to protect them

[dapper laurel]

The state tries to protect civilians, but their deaths cannot always be avoided

[thorny steeple]

Have anyone tried the shadowing technique?

[open plover]

Unacceptible in every single manner

[whole ruin]

is it acceptable for my classmate to ignore my message for whole 3 days When he's chronically online?

We're classmates abt 3 years ago

Or am I weird to message em?

[thorny steeple]

depends what kind of classmate

[mild sphinx]

Its okey i do that also

[whole ruin]

Bro we were roommates

Like we literally slept together

[thorny steeple]

dude is taking it too far

are u both friends now?
how much do u guys talk on daily basis

anyways its normal

[whole ruin]

Ohh we never contacted in those 3 years, so..ig it's fair

[thorny steeple]

then its 100% acceptable
that dude be like how tf did he remember me out of sudden

[whole ruin]

Ohh I was grinding for success, but when I succeeded there's no one waiting for me , yeah ig that was what fate brought me to.

We were chill gang in old days

Yeah I miss that time

[thorny steeple]

u are born alone, u die alone

[whole ruin]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

👀 may i ask how old are u?

[whole ruin]

Umm, 19

[thorny steeple]

well u have long way to go
ull find friends, ull lose some, but in the end ur own urself, ur ur own bestfriend

[pearl cypress]

Ask yourself if it is worth thinking about it; nonetheless, it's their choice.

[whole ruin]

This ignoring experience was first time for me

[whole ruin]

💯

[thorny steeple]

well it certainly wont be the last time

[whole ruin]

Yeah I gotta move from this

[whole ruin]

[thorny steeple]

now enough of this sulking
u have better things to worry bout

[whole ruin]

Yeah

[pearl cypress]

Ask them in person if they've seen your messages.

[whole ruin]

Nah, they don't even checked it

Ig ima stay out of his life then

[pearl cypress]

Let it go then

[whole ruin]

Yeah

[pearl cypress]

Best of luck with that

[thorny steeple]

well if they reply back, they might have a reason to it

[whole ruin]

Hmm let's wait for that then

[thorny steeple]

yup

[blazing solstice]

hello chat

[unique light]

Hello

[blazing solstice]

how are u

[unique light]

Grand, what about you?

[blazing solstice]

what does grand mean

im fine btw

[unique light]

Grand is like super/great/good, we use it in Ireland

[blazing solstice]

oh alright thank u

[pearl cypress]

Do you have an accent?

[unique light]

I do

I can't say eight like eit, I always say eish

[pearl cypress]

Oh wow

[unique light]

Not really wow as sometimes it can be pretty hard to understand what I'm saying. Not always, but sometimes

[pearl cypress]

You don't understand yourself?

That's quite perplexing

[unique light]

I didn't say I don't understand myself, I said you may not understand what I'm saying because of the accent

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[unique light]

Hi

[trim kelp]

Come on O'irish

[unborn geyser]

Hey guys anyone here wanna talk about movies ?

[unique light]

What would you like to discuss?

[unborn geyser]

I watched raging bull recently

I was expecting more than what i've watched to be honest

[unique light]

But would you recommend this movie to others?

[pearl cypress]

Oh understandable

[unborn geyser]

I would it recommend the iron claw more to be honest since it was created with more technology it has more details

[unique light]

Do you only watch sport movies?

[unborn geyser]

Nop i am a huge fan of cinema

A Scorsese fan

[umbral escarp]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

I'm always surprised by how unwell-educated Brazilians are. Most of them can't barely name our 27 states and they are always bragging about American who can't point out Spain on a map, yet most of them can't tell you what is GDP

Like I'm not even smart, but it just makes me pissed off

[thorny steeple]

Of course anyone does

I don't know who but they surely do

[pale kindle]

They are too busy playing football and beheading heads to care about gdp or countrys economy

[thorny steeple]

Beheading heads? Burglars usually use guns

Sometimes they're just twerking their asses, sometimes playing football, sometimes making noise in the streets or trying to take advantage of someone

At the end of the day democracy fvcks us all up

[balmy matrix]

let them have fun though

[thorny steeple]

I already do

Now the trend here is flying to the US, my city lost 3.000 out of its 17.000 former citizens because of that
I hope Trump doesn't win for them to keep flying

I love Biden because his policies for immigration aren't as tough as Trump's

(most of them go illegal, they go to Mexico and cross the frontier)

[balmy matrix]

Well it's the closest country for them , understandable

[thorny steeple]

They only go to Portugal and the US
Portugal because of the language

Like Hispanoamericans who always to go Spain

I'd go to any country if I could earn enough money and live comfortably enough ngl, languages aren't difficult I'd study Chinese if I had to

[manic juniper]

I haven't met a single Brazilian centrist

They're either super far right or super far left

[thorny steeple]

On Twitter I've found plenty of moderate liberals. None of these far-rights were found before 2016, when Bolsonaro began to rise

I'm a center-rightist don't know if that counts

But in real life people tend to be politically illiterate

Whether they support Bolsonaro or Lula, they aren't much extremist

Or can really define what a leftist/rightists, if they are Bolsonaro, they tend to lean moderately towards far-right but not quite, on the other hand, the number of far-leftists has been steadily growing

I guess the number of far-rights will also rise due to Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter, unfortunately

[unique light]

The problem is that it's written in offensive way, which isn't great.

[thorny steeple]

Define far-right and how you came to this conclusion. I don't found them outside Twitter

[manic juniper]

Most of those I talked to are on Discord or Reddit, far right as in they want a fascist theocracy or an absolute monarchy

[thorny steeple]

Brazilians on Reddit are split on r/BrasilLivre (right, but not that far) and r/Brasil (far-left)
I honestly found very few far-rightists here because they tend to hide their identities (it's not socially acceptable to go around supporting fascist ideas and they're smart enough to know that)

[manic juniper]

I don't know those, I was on public chat rooms on Reddit and on political discussion servers on Discord, the latter was a nest of far rightists while I met the far left peeps elsewhere

Is Uzcategui a Brazilian surname?

Or something like that

[thorny steeple]

Discord is very badly seen in Brazil because of that

[split jungle]

hi there

[thorny steeple]

It's Basque

Brazilian surnames are mostly Portuguese

[manic juniper]

I've never seen a Portuguese surname so that's why I'm asking

Now I have more questions rather than answers

[thorny steeple]

Usually it ends in "A" preceded by a consonant
Souza, Silva, Pereira, Oliveira, etc.

[split jungle]

exculse me, I'm brazilian can I help yours?

[manic juniper]

What I'm asking borders doxxing I will stop here

[thorny steeple]

I don't know anything about Brazil, could you teach me some

[thorny steeple]

Loll you're investigating them

[manic juniper]

Sure, Brazil is a country on the European continent that borders France

[thorny steeple]

I already doxxed myself here

[manic juniper]

There are typically European animals like harpy eagles, various monkeys, parrots, and centipedes as long as your forearm

[split jungle]

Well, brazil do lot of sun and yes we have lot divide by policts...I thinks this a sucks

[manic juniper]

Brazilian rats lack a tail and swim in ponds, they are huge and for that reason they are called "capasbear" (bear heads) in the Brazilian language

[split jungle]

no way, no! we are in south american

[manic juniper]

But you border France 🤔 that's an European country

[split jungle]

what do you says? HAHAHAHAHA

[manic juniper]

Technically not everything I said is a lie

[thorny steeple]

Capasbear doesn't sound much brazilian

Like I caught a rat in my kitchen and it did have a tail

[manic juniper]

Unlike what most people think, the Brazilian language is a Sino-Tibetan language closely related to Cantonese

[split jungle]

No, we border with argentina. not with france

look this

this is brazil

[manic juniper]

Look on the North, France

French Guyana

[split jungle]

oh hahahah.....this makes sense

[manic juniper]

You caught a kitchen rat, those have a tail unlike bearcapas

[thorny steeple]

I see some Tibetan monks secretly sneaked around during the colonial times and now the Portuguese tries to gaslight us into believing it's Latin just because those monks did terrible things

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/katturide-gif-27002722

That's a capasbear

[thorny steeple]

In which region is it found?

[manic juniper]

It's riding a peaceful herbivorous giant lizard

[manic juniper]

The Himalayan Basins of eastern Brazil

[split jungle]

in all regions

[thorny steeple]

My regions doesn't have giant alligators

Nor does it have lakes like that on the video

[split jungle]

alligators not, but capasbear yes

[split jungle]

what are you from?

[thorny steeple]

From the Athlantic

[split jungle]

what are you from?

[thorny steeple]

I have fins which help me swiming around without having a home

[split jungle]

so are you from cape green?

[thorny steeple]

Work on your English bro

[split jungle]

sorry for my english, i'm trying to improve 😅

[split jungle]

why?

[manic juniper]

Finland

[split jungle]

nice

[split jungle]

now I see.. I read wrong, sorry

[manic juniper]

I was joking lol

[thorny steeple]

Latin America is European?

Suriname and Guyana constitutes Germanic America alongside the US

Putin should invade French Guyana tho

[split jungle]

I see, sorry for my mistakes

[manic juniper]

Latin America is American

[gaunt bronze]

Omg- hearing that is so weird for me

[thorny steeple]

Freedom 🦅💸💸

[thorny steeple]

Can anyone tell me if Americans prefer electric toothbrush over the regular ones?

[small kite]

Are we speaking of North America or the whole of North American and South America?

[thorny steeple]

North America

[small kite]

I was going to say that I think the majority still use a manual toothbrush....And Google agrees that 41% or Americans have used a power toothbrush in the last six months while 58% use a manual toothbrush.....they did not mention what occurs with that last 1% of people.....

[thorny steeple]

Apparently it's become a trend with adults in the UK

I need to figure out about Germany and Nordic countries

[spice swallow]

Brazil also borders france

[thorny steeple]

People can't afford that in 3rd world countries, maybe within 50 years

Now I can't sleep without knowing that

[gaunt bronze]

Oops-

I have an electric toothbrush but i actually prefer my manual one over my electric

[small kite]

the electric toothbrush can actually damage the gums...

I mean....I am not a dentist or anything.

just a disclaimer

[gaunt bronze]

But I still use it bc if i dont my mom would get mad that she wasted money on it 😭

[thorny steeple]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3459492/

Well, Ionic brushes are the best

[thorny steeple]

In the UK a tooth brush powered with batteries cost 4x as one rechargeable

[split jungle]

yeah, bc french guiana. It's right

[thorny steeple]

10 bucks vs 40 bucks

[small kite]

Oh, I see 67% of British adults use Electric toothbrush

[spice swallow]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Probably the young ones also have yielded to modernity

[split jungle]

yeah, I thought she was talking about french in europe 😅

[spice swallow]

[small kite]

I didn't find statistics for Germany, though an article said that electric toothbrushes are well liked by Germans. And the European Electric toothbrush market is expected to grow by 4.3% over the next four yers.

[thorny steeple]

Chatgpt told me that Germany and the UK alongside Nordic countries use electric toothbrushes

[small kite]

Well there is some random trivia for the next time I need it. LOL

[thorny steeple]

I guess your students will find that interesting

[restive light]

bro we have class in stats

[feral river]

What is this place ?

Isn’t that world only have 4 countries?

USA, China, Russia and Israel

🤣

[split jungle]

brazil and your states

[feral river]

I know I just think that Brazil doesn’t really have much attention to the world 😂

And sometimes are considered as part of American’s backyard

[split jungle]

why you thought this? bc of the image?

[feral river]

Nope because they handling their internal issue ? I don’t see there is any influence from Brazil

They are not a global power

[split jungle]

yeah, here we have munch problems. the corruptions is big

[waxen belfry]

Hi everyone

[night cedar]

[dapper laurel]

Here, which is a German-speaking area, we use normal toothbrushes (I don't want to offend anyone by calling them "normal", long live inclusion)

I tried to use it once, but I felt like my mouth was being harssed, I let it go

[hollow lake]

.

[rose eagle]

Hirohito

[abstract belfry]

That's the exact opposite of serious ._.
Bigger question is why do people make so much AI trash content with WW2 leaders lol

[pale kindle]

Money

[thorny steeple]

I'm inside you

[night cedar]

elite ?

[abstract belfry]

these shitposts don't even get that many views

[whole ruin]

Ik Brazil from 7-1

[rose eagle]

J4f bro

[hot bison]

Good question😂😂😂

[hot bison]

Modern hirohito (k pop performer)

[unique light]

A power toothbrush is a life changing thing, though, I don't have one right now as they are kind of expensive.

[jolly agate]

Because, they free, biggest con of social media everyone is too free here

[safe crescent]

Just like you !

lol

[jolly agate]

huh?

[night cedar]

bananna rain

[safe crescent]

more like spam 🌧️

[jolly agate]

[heady yarrow]

is it any problem of portrait right for AI trash with WW2 leaders?

[jolly agate]

can ya simplify your words

[heady yarrow]

i try it, is it harm to WW2 leaders portrait by AI trash?

[thorny steeple]

why would it be

[heady yarrow]

i have no idea,just feel some malice

[thorny steeple]

anybody that knows the history will pay respect to them and will know how important they're

it doesn't really matter how people create some social media material from it

[grave siren]

Do dictators or butchers deserve respect?

[thorny steeple]

that wasn't what i mean but okay

[heady yarrow]

agree u,it makes sense to send meme when chatting

in other scenarios, it may depend

[grave siren]

but people whose grandfathers/grandmothers suffered or lost lives in the war may feel offended.

[feral river]

Why you guys always think dictator = tyranny

🤔 because he purges his political opponents?

Then what if the political opponents are literally an obstacle to the strength for a country?

[thorny steeple]

i agree with that

not every dictator is kind of bad for their country

[thorny steeple]

everybody dies

maybe in a war, maybe in their house sitting peacefully doing nothing

[feral river]

A political opponent can be used by enemy states

[thorny steeple]

it doesn't really matter if your life was useless

[vestal grove]

yup this happens alot

like kuwaite now

[unique light]

So hard, let's talk about movies and good coffee

[thorny steeple]

hard??

[mystic shoal]

I need to work in america

[vestal grove]

they removed the parliament bc they never agree on anything and the country isnt making any progress bc of them

[mystic shoal]

what should I do?

[unique light]

You need or you want?

[mystic shoal]

need

[feral river]

That’s literally a big disadvantage if the opponent is too much or having more power against the current regime of a country

[unique light]

Okay, what's your citizenship?

[feral river]

They will try to block some good things that can be done for some stupid son of b reasons

[mystic shoal]

Egyptian

[feral river]

Because of the freaking political struggle

[mystic shoal]

there is no future in egypt

[grave siren]

why?

[unique light]

That makes the situation harder, as I believe the only way to move to the US is getting a green card or a work visa, which I guess pretty much difficult to get.

[unique light]

As in many countries. You're not alone.

The problem with that is you need to move there legally.

This is much more difficult than crossing the border with nothing and going straight to jail

[feral river]

You can move to your neighbor and they got really a lot of future

State of Israel

[unique light]

I would say your best bet would be Europe, but I presume you won't be welcomed in many of the EU countries as of your citizenship. No offense, I'm not against anyone, but some people are just against the immigrants, both legal and illegal, and while being against illegals might be reasonable in some cases, being against legal immigrants isn't at all.

[vestal grove]

moving into a country that is in war is not smart

[feral river]

But it’s pretty easy because they are at war

[vestal grove]

what if things go wrong for them

[feral river]

That’s the risk you can have to taken

Because you want to move

[unique light]

I mean the Israel pretty much doesn't care much about it as they've god some great air defence systems so most of them are totally safe.

[vestal grove]

well it aint a good idea plus an egyptian moving to a country that hates arab?? i dont think they will accept him with open arms

[feral river]

Well anyways I’m already considering my life like immigrate to other countries

Israel is an option for me

But Canada, Singapore, US would be ideal

And I just need that green card not gonna naturalize as their citizens

Chinese citizenship is precious

[unique light]

The US is far from being ideal, but it's way better than any country in the world. I've lived in different countries and I can truly say that Ireland is a good place, but far from being even close to an ideal country.

[feral river]

I’m not known about their language

[unique light]

Irish was beaten out from most of the Irish people, so there'd be no problem for you to come here

As their official language is English

[feral river]

Awesome I will consider that carefully maybe I’ll just visit them to see how nice they are

[feral river]

I also ever been a lot of countries but most in Asia

[unique light]

They are nice, but it's not the best country to move to as the rent is much higher than in any country. I could afford to rent a flat in London instead of a double room in Ireland. That's a big difference.

[grave siren]

so, do you think there is any ideal country in the world?

[unique light]

The room is usually around 700 euro a month, not including bills, so say you need 800 a month just to rent a room

[unique light]

I'd say the US just because of the overall quality of life. They have better salaries than in Ireland, while the cost of living is pretty much the same.

[cursive grove]

https://forms.gle/ekNWDsaoZYRryiee7

[thorny steeple]

Just look at our politics - a bunch of... who haven't a clue what they're doing. I won't be voting for Fine Gael or any other party this year, It's a disgrace to see posters claiming they'll change anything in this country while they're messing everything up.

[mystic shoal]

so.....?

Where would you recommend me to go?

[thorny steeple]

We're struggling to pay our rent, while they are providing everyone with housing, social welfare and free medicine. Anyone, but not the Irish.

That's the reason why most of the Irish people move to Australia

[mystic shoal]

I don't need the nationality

[thorny steeple]

How do you mean?

[mystic shoal]

I just want to work and build my future

[thorny steeple]

Build it!

It's all up to you

[mystic shoal]

Impossible

[thorny steeple]

Well, life sucks

[mystic shoal]

not in Egypt

you need from 350 to 400 months to only buy your own apartment

without eating drinking or even pay for pills

[thorny steeple]

Join off topic Politics and Religion discussions. This chat became place to hang out rather than a serious chat to discuss something

[thorny steeple]

I mean most of the Irish people don't have their own homes, they have to rent them as well

Because the prices are outrageous nowadays

The house would be like 400 grand

While most of the Irish people get around 2000 euro a month

[mystic shoal]

and in egypt min 1 million pounds

[thorny steeple]

Why pounds? Has Egypt become a part of the UK?

[mystic shoal]

here in egypt at least 6000 pounds and the average salary is about 3000 to 4000 pounds what are you talking about

[thorny steeple]

You must be joking. How do you manage to get 3000 or 4000 pounds a month, while we get around 2000 in Ireland?

[mystic shoal]

Egyptian pounds it's fine

[thorny steeple]

Fair then

[mystic shoal]

Idk but I live in egypt and I know everything about it

[thorny steeple]

I'm pretty sure Ireland is richer than Egypt as we have one of the best GDPs per capita in Europe

[mystic shoal]

HOW IT'S FAIR!!

[thorny steeple]

It is

Fair doesn't necessarily mean the life is fair

[mystic shoal]

whatever

[thorny steeple]

It's not in fact

[mystic shoal]

I know

[thorny steeple]

Fair is like a word I often use to say something like "Ahh, ok"

I don't even know how to describe it

[mystic shoal]

anyway

[thorny steeple]

Your English isn't too bad, why don't you trying moving to a different country?

If Egypt sucks, try to move to a different country. It's never late to try

[mystic shoal]

I'm waiting till I graduate

[mystic shoal]

And you didn't hear my accent

[thorny steeple]

Get your degree and go abroad, I guess it'll be the best decision you can do in your entire life

[thorny steeple]

No one cares about your accent, trust me, as long as other people understand you, you'll be fine

[mystic shoal]

maybe I'll

[mystic shoal]

I hope that

[grave siren]

so, do you mean spending 1/5 of your monthly income to pay rent is too much and unacceptable ?

[thorny steeple]

I spend more than half on my income on my rent

[grave siren]

oh, I am sorry, that's reasonable

[thorny steeple]

Idk why you think I spend 1/5 of my income

Would be grand if I'd spend only 20% of my income to pay my rent

[grave siren]

is 400*5=2000?

[thorny steeple]

It is, you won't be able to find a room for 400 a month in a city

But you would be able to find one in a really small village somewhere

The car tax + insurance would be around 200-300 a month depending on the car you have

The rent is around 800 a month

Food is around 300 a month

Not too bad, but could be better

[grave siren]

I see, and this is the monthly living cost for a bachelor in the city ? not too bad, but indeed could be better

[thorny steeple]

So say you live in Cork, the rent cost would depend on the room you rent, so say you rent a single room and you live with 4 people in the house, it would be around 600-700 euro a month, the bills would be 80-100 a month, so we have 700-800 a month for a room with all the bills. You save loads of money if you don't have a car, as insurance + road tax would be 250-300 a month, depends on the type of the vehicle, engine size and etc., but generally it wouldn't exceed 300 a month. The food would be around 200-300, depends on your preferences and what you buy. Add 100-150 euro on some mourning coffees and overall we have around 1200-1500 euro a month. If you work full time, 12.70 an hour, you get around 1700 a month.

You'd have to work part time + SUSI grant payment if you're a student, because otherwise you won't be able to pay for rent and food.

Luckily anyone can get a SUSI grant now

[rotund cave]

what is the best way to learn english?

I always learn something and forget something. I live in China. a small town,not meet any nativespeaks

[thorny steeple]

That's a hard question. I mean no one will give you the answer. Learn new words, practice your speaking skills.

[whole ruin]

Watch your preferred dialectic shows, talk in vc, there's a lot of apps in play Store

Like ELSA

[thorny steeple]

it is depend on what is your goal to learn english .i think

[grave siren]

thanks for sharing

[rotund cave]

I use English fluent speak App.

I study for 3 months

I just understand simple words and phrase

and only say , I xxx , I xx. like a simple phrases

[grave siren]

take advantage of chatgpt, it's definitely a good teacher

[rotund cave]

I am a little drepressed, it's easy to forget and it's hard to remember

yes, I use it free version

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from? 🐻

[rotund cave]

I am from China

[grave siren]

read a novel, choose a simple one. this is very helpful for remembering vocabulary

[thorny steeple]

Wait... You can get access to Discord in china?

[rotund cave]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

This will not impact on your social credit or anything like that?

[rotund cave]

No , why do you think like this

[thorny steeple]

Maybe I am misinformed... I thought you guys there use social credit systems in your country economy... And if your break any rules that will impact on your social credit score like accessing to banned application?

[feral river]

well the social credit system is one of the biggest rumor about China.

[thorny steeple]

Oh okay 👍

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

you should know how it exactly works

[thorny steeple]

Thanks 🙏

[thorny steeple]

I apologise for these assumptions BTW 🙏

[rotund cave]

No, less strict

Unless you break the law

[whole ruin]

?define social credit

[cursive bobcat]

Word: social credit

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by felisdomesticus

[whole ruin]

Is vpn allowed there?

[rotund cave]

Yes , if you allow the law, nobody can stop you

[rose eagle]

Hello my neighbor

[warped frigate]

?ask

[rose eagle]

Even in my country, there is a rumor that has appeared since the 2010s that China is an extremely dangerous organ trafficking hub and now there are still people who believe it.🤣🤣

[slate breach]

haven't been to China. is it safe? do they actually give you social credits?

[rose eagle]

China is safe

[slate breach]

thank god that'd have been a nightmare

they ban access to foreign websites, don't they? is VPN illegal there? how do you guys go to Youtube

[rose eagle]

VPN is illegal in china lmao

Ask @feral river

[slate breach]

oh well it's illegal in name only ig lol

[feral river]

not really, the VPN services provider under government regulation is legal.

most cheap VPN services are illegal but if you just want to access the western website, you can apply a SIM card in Hong Kong

[rose eagle]

So why does the Chinese government ban the global internet? To make it easier to manage and rule over 1 billion Chinese people

from "toxic" information from the West and the outside?

[whole ruin]

It's to prevent brain rot

Nowadays westerners are under skibidi Rizz toilet

So...

[slate breach]

lmao

[thorny steeple]

What the...

[dapper laurel]

I can't believe what I'm reading

[feral river]

if you think they are managing and rule over 1 bil Chinese people by this wall... they are actually using this wall to protect the local services and market from invasion by western influences.

if there is no wall, we have no baidu, bilibili, weibo, and even tiktok but youtube, google, facebook those US companies.

that's our independence on internet which other country doesn't have.

[dapper laurel]

And you exercise hegemony over the internet of other nations

[feral river]

that's what US already did, and we gonna do it to expand our influence too.

why you can accept those software from the US not China LOL

[dapper laurel]

Because at least the ones from the United States work well

[feral river]

I see, so there is a competition.

[dapper laurel]

But don't get confused, I am anti-China and anti-United States

This means that no one should set foot here, or exercise their hegemony here

[feral river]

I don't think that's special if they are powerful and they holding the tech companies which controlled most of global services and we will not allow that happen in our places because we have ability to secure our internet.

if we are holding the tech companies which already occupied the world, we also promote openness too.

that's just an interest battle

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from?

[dapper laurel]

Eu

[rose eagle]

Yea Vạn Lý Tường Lửa (great firewall)

[thorny steeple]

Oh okay

[rose eagle]

Vn

[dapper laurel]

We too would have the opportunity to do this, but you know how it is here they want values such as freedom and superfluous things of this type

[feral river]

I don't think you will have opportunity until the last US soldier retreat from your country.

[dapper laurel]

On the other hand, I would hate to chase them away, they are our blood brothers

[feral river]

you will like to chase them away when the major conflict of Europe is disappear, a united strong Europe will always be a threat to the United States.

[rose eagle]

I'm anti-China goverment too

Those bastards are trying to monopolize the entire South China Sea

[dapper laurel]

I think the European Union should have a common army and a complete fiscal union, then we would be really powerful

[feral river]

yeah you know that was called South China Sea.

South China Sea, not South sea, or sea but South China Sea

we have that nine-dash line since Qing Dynasty

[dapper laurel]

You should respond with total armed mobilization

[feral river]

they will never have that because US is here.

a united strong independent Europe is always been a threat to the US

they are playing this game

[thorny steeple]

I don't think so

[dapper laurel]

The European Union has a fairly independent policy, we are also competitors for the United States

[rose eagle]

Where is the evidence? Sparty Islands has belonged to the Nguyen Dynasty since the 18th to 19th centuries

[feral river]

competitor have no or less strength, like Japan which want to surpass the US economy and they got suppressed when their GDP reached 70% of the US.

[dapper laurel]

I would never want the US as an enemy, but I would like a completely independent foreign policy

[feral river]

no need for evidence, no strength, no interest.

[thorny steeple]

Alright

[feral river]

our military forces is the most powerful forces in South China Sea.

that's the end.

[dapper laurel]

I think it was an economic crisis linked to demographic decline

[feral river]

that's not, that's caused by the US.

you can search about that.

[whole ruin]

Idk why China is obsessed with creating fake maps to exaggerate their territory.

[dapper laurel]

Where?

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord

this is the start of collapse of Japanese economy which caused by the US.

[safe crescent]

👀

You guys never stop !

Well yea its beneficial in some ways

[whole ruin]

[feral river]

This is the world, no strength, no interest.

尊严只在剑锋之上, 真理只在大炮射程之内

[safe crescent]

your name reminded me an animated series from my childhood 👀

[thorny steeple]

It will be fun when Trump will win the presidency while in prison

[safe crescent]

commonly known as Anime

[feral river]

"dignity only exist on the point of sword, truth only exist in the attack range of an cannon"

[rose eagle]

bro💀😱. Winnie the pooh is very proud of you

[thorny steeple]

Japanese cartoon

[safe crescent]

Dont say this to everyone some pple might get angry

[feral river]

not really, I don't like his economy policy he literally screwed up our openness economy

[safe crescent]

lmao

[thorny steeple]

Are you angry?

[feral river]

but anyways he's very good at expanding our territory so just not bad.

[safe crescent]

Im neutral 😂

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[feral river]

TRUMP 2024

[rose eagle]

My grandfather used to wonder why kids nowadays simp and masturbate with japanese drawings

[thorny steeple]

Hell yeah

[safe crescent]

Hopefully not 😂

[feral river]

🇺🇸 Make America Great Again 🇺🇸

[pale kindle]

🦅

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

[whole ruin]

Yeah, while politicians play chess using their citizens, we citizens suffer and politicians act like gods who enjoy that suffering.

[feral river]

United States is just crazy in these bloody years

they really earned a lot from war

[rose eagle]

Gdp per capita?

[rose eagle]

And selling weapon

[feral river]

yeah very nice for americans

their economy is just boomed

[whole ruin]

?define nemesis

[cursive bobcat]

Word: nemesis

Definition 1 (noun): something causing misery or death
Definition 2 (noun): (Greek mythology) the goddess of divine retribution and vengeance

Definition requested by felisdomesticus

[rose eagle]

Philadelphia zombie city💀

[safe crescent]

Well
Nemesis refers to a person or thing that causes someone to lose their power, position, or status, often in a way that is inevitable and cannot be avoided...
btw in Greek mythology theres a different perspective

[whole ruin]

Yeah💯 I was influenced by the meaning of nemesis but not with some random anime mc

[safe crescent]

It was not a protagonist it was an antagonist 😂

[whole ruin]

Oh lmao

Beyblade?

[safe crescent]

Yos !

Metal fury ♥️🤩

[thorny steeple]

You guys are in #🧠｜serious-chat

[whole ruin]

We're talking serious

[safe crescent]

Were serious

[whole ruin]

I would talk in skibidi language if I'm not serious

[feral river]

I officially declare myself as the supreme leader of the serious chat. 🇰🇵

[safe crescent]

Brah moment

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[whole ruin]

Hmm eu is better than Asia&merica from this statistics

[rose eagle]

Kpop i prefer

[grave siren]

do you believe it?

[feral river]

well I see a lot of elders in South Korea because I'm here but didn't really see homeless people or people who under the poverty line.

maybe that's because I'm in a megacity ?

🤔

[rose eagle]

Depend

[rose eagle]

A little bit

[rose eagle]

Are u living in seoul?

[feral river]

nope Busan right now

maybe I will just come back to China next week

this is just boring and I'm not a party guy and everything is just expensive

I spend most time on computer games in here I got 5ms network delay playing LOL

[rose eagle]

Maybe I should still choose to travel to China in the future?

[rose eagle]

Is the internet cafe there expensive? In my country, an internet cafe has an average price of about 5,000 VND to 10,000 VND.

[feral river]

yeah why not, China is big, culture is diversity, history is plentiful and economy is just not bad.

[feral river]

well I own my computer so I don't need to spend my time in internet cafe

I bring 3 computers while coming to South Korea

[rose eagle]

The city here is as vibrant as in America or Japan?

[feral river]

yeah even better than them, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Beijing those cities

[rose eagle]

Shiett rich mann

[rose eagle]

Are there many anime shops or streets there, almost like akihabara

[feral river]

they have but not much

I mean this one

[rose eagle]

I see that

🐧

[feral river]

try hack me, I'm a network security engineer.

[rose eagle]

J4f

[rose eagle]

Oh sorry man i'm j4f😭

Don't heck me pls

😭

[feral river]

you won't be realized if I hacked you

and bypass the freaking anti-virus ? that's pretty easy

[rose eagle]

How will you hack me? Send me a strange link? hack my wifi modem?

it's hard to imagine

Which university are you studying?

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-crypto-horse-penguin-blockchain-gif-9394720440459141530

[unique light]

He holds a degree in humor.

[dapper laurel]

At the university of life

[unique light]

Wrong answer. We take away 10 social credits from you.

That's your punishment.

[dapper laurel]

Please, don't send me to re-education camp

[unique light]

We will of course.

We've created a ticket for you so we'll take a look at that a bit later, for now you may pack your clothes and prepare for a trip.

[feral river]

I see you need some re-education

[unique light]

I'm a re-educator in one of the biggest camps. Here's a picture of mine.

[feral river]

at least you can live under this place, unlike some of you guys in a strip, at least you can live

[dapper laurel]

No, I swear, I will become the Xi top guy

[unique light]

We don't care. You're being sent to the re-education camp anyways.

[feral river]

be the Xi top muslim ?

immediate execution

[dapper laurel]

No, I will never be Muslim, I will never become one

[whole ruin]

There's no "i" we only use "we"

[feral river]

btw why we cooperated with the US counter Islam influence and crack down on terrorist but they accuse us 💀

[dapper laurel]

However you were always right

[feral river]

no love anymore 💔

[dapper laurel]

Here too some re-education camps would be needed

[feral river]

re-education camps for Europe!

and the US!

[unique light]

Agreed.

[dapper laurel]

And for all 🚩🚩

[whole ruin]

They need one camp for detoxifying from skibidi toilet 🚽

[unique light]

Tf

[dapper laurel]

Skibidi toilet distracts us from serious problems

For example, a policeman here was killed by an Islamic extremist, but no one talks about it

[feral river]

🇮🇱

that's all I want to say

[dapper laurel]

I don't support either of them, but Israel is at least an ally of the West

[feral river]

I stand with Israel 🇮🇱

[whole ruin]

Come to India, you sure can chill with those islamophobists.👽 Ig they might take your virginity tho

[dapper laurel]

Lol, I saw the same picture

You should remove it if you don't want to be banned though, you know how it works here

[thorn lagoon]

Lmao why tho

Showing violence?

[feral river]

why polize ?

isn't it police

[dapper laurel]

The swastika+ chud+ violence= ban

[dapper laurel]

Polizei, it's German

[thorn lagoon]

Saw this pic as well

[feral river]

oh awesome

[thorn lagoon]

Saw this pic as well

[feral river]

so damn similar to english

[dapper laurel]

They are both Germanic languages

[dapper laurel]

Well, internet is a weird place

[feral river]

England got conquered by German ? wdym

[shadow robin]

Ally makes it ok for them to commit atrocities?

[feral river]

oh it's like sinosphere

[whole ruin]

Welp, they all originated from Proto-Indo-European languages.

[dapper laurel]

The history of the Germanic peoples is complex, but we can briefly say that in the English territories angles and Saxons emigrated, these ethnic groups are all Germanic

[whole ruin]

Anyways we can't afford to neglect the war crimes

[feral river]

oh I see, we have such thing called sinosphere

[whole ruin]

Which's demonic or rather unethical

[dapper laurel]

🇩🇪🫱🏻‍🫲🏼🇨🇳

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinosphere

[thorn lagoon]

Indo-european is a linguistic classification

[dapper laurel]

I know about this, my friends call oriental people here simply as "Chinese" now this can be explained better

[thorn lagoon]

Not that much to do with culture as all Indo-european languages even have wildly different cultures

Even some Indian languages come under Indo-european classification

[dapper laurel]

Do you know how Indo-European languages spread to Europe?

[whole ruin]

"Proto-Indo-European" language.

[thorn lagoon]

Sinthasta migration?

[thorn lagoon]

A more apt comparison would be Indo-european languages vs Sino-tibetan languages

[thorn lagoon]

Even my ethnic language comes under Sino-tibetan

[thorn lagoon]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Tibetan_languages

[night cedar]

waa cute

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but they were not migrations, they were conquests, many peoples from the steppes established themselves in Europe as the dominant and richest class. This is why the subjugated European peoples adopted the language pf the conqueror. These people also were assimilated to europe, creating the modern European as we know

[thorn lagoon]

Similar thing happened to India with the steppe-aryan migration

[thorn lagoon]

But, I don't know the extent of the use of violence in that migration

[dapper laurel]

The only difference is that they arrived here in a massive way, strongly altering our genetics

[dapper laurel]

They were conquerors, they had just domesticated the horse, they were favorites in battles

[thorn lagoon]

Horse and chariots 🐎

[dapper laurel]

Exactly

[thorn lagoon]

It's a highly controversial theory in India lol.
The earlier western Indologist established the aryan invasion theory
But, currently, the most accepted model or terminology is "aryan migration theory "

[dapper laurel]

Maybe it was different for India, only the north was partially affected, so it could be a migration

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, the indus valley people have completely abandoned the urban areas by the time steppe-aryan came in and I don't think there could have been that much of a violence, opposition or conquest

[thorn lagoon]

Still the legacy of the steppe-aryan remains in India as Indo-aryan language like Hindi is the most spoken one

[dapper laurel]

I think that the Indian caste system is linked to the arrival of the Indo-Europeans, who established themselves as the richest class

But the real question is: how did they do it? Maybe a conquest

[thorn lagoon]

There is a general correlation between caste and genetics ( with higher caste generally having higher steppe aryan ancestry/percentage than others and with lower caste having higher AASI percenatge) , i dont know about any invasion or conquest .But, i know about a war between the 10 aryan tribes ( battle of the 10 kings)

[thorn lagoon]

But , there are some exceptions to this correlation .For example , ethnic jatts being "shudra"( which is considered as a low caste ) have high steppe aryan percentage even than some Brahmin groups

[unique light]

Here I am, wearing my new hat

The minister of seal affairs.

[night cedar]

cute

[unique light]

It's Niko the Seal, my beloved cutie.

[dapper laurel]

A similar thing happened in Italy with the arrival of the Germanic tribes who heavily influenced our culture

For example, wealthy people and landowners were of Germanic origin

[thorny steeple]

What do you think of migrants in Germany?

[thorn lagoon]

Interesting

you are italian ?

[thorny steeple]

Looks cute!

[thorny steeple]

You believe in all that?

[thorny steeple]

I'd say "How do you mean?", but It's pretty easy to understand

[dapper laurel]

It doesn't sound great, but that's the idea

[thorny steeple]

So I'm just gonna say "Fair enough"

[thorn lagoon]

I dont believe in anything .

Its just mere ancestry data based on science

[dapper laurel]

It was the "l'amour toujours"

[thorny steeple]

Ik

[dapper laurel]

So you get the joke

[thorny steeple]

I do

Do you want to get them all out?

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[dapper laurel]

However I think European immigrants are welcome un germany

[thorny steeple]

True. I don't care as long as you're European

[thick marsh]

hi guys

[thorny steeple]

What do you think of Ukrainians tho?

[dapper laurel]

I live in a German speaking region in Italy, almost the same thing

[dapper laurel]

They're good

[thorny steeple]

Some people are sound, some are not

[thorn lagoon]

i saw that

it doesnt offend me

[thorny steeple]

I saw that either

[dapper laurel]

What?

[thick marsh]

what are you talking about?

[thorny steeple]

He said "Russia should've annexed Ukraine"

Based

[thorn lagoon]

and he said "india is pakistan "

[thorny steeple]

Never say anything like that, people are dying there

[thorny steeple]

True, I said that

[thorn lagoon]

iam not offended

[thorny steeple]

But I added "then"

[dapper laurel]

And you take all the credit for it

[thorny steeple]

And that makes a difference, because "India is Pakistan then" is different from "India is Pakistan"

[dapper laurel]

I'm joking

[thorny steeple]

Ik

[thorn lagoon]

I deleted because i thought you were talking about ukraine vs russia waer

[thorn lagoon]

my bad

[thorny steeple]

Doesn't matter, people are dying there and you support the invasion

[dapper laurel]

For me it is a fratricidal war, Europeans should focus on other problems

[thorn lagoon]

do you support israel ?

[thorny steeple]

No

[thorn lagoon]

Its a war

people will die

[thorn lagoon]

You are ignoring russian side of the story

[thorny steeple]

And what's the story behind it?

Is there any reason why they've invaded Ukraine?

[thorn lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/putin-bear-vladimir-putin-crossing-river-gif-13579934

[thorny steeple]

Fair, good reason.

[whole ruin]

Humans are busy with taking sides while children are being beheaded fk your wars

[dapper laurel]

A long time ago, in a dark forest a prince named Putin decided to free a princess in a castle...

[thorny steeple]

What a class fairy tail. Could you tell me more about it?

[whole ruin]

How's killing justifiable for a piece of land, damn where's humanity?

[thorn lagoon]

I also support ccp annexation of taiwan

[dapper laurel]

The princess's name was Zelensky( She was trans, she adapts more to today's society) but Putin had to face many challenges to free her

[dapper laurel]

This will not benefit India

[thorny steeple]

Ask akashi

[thorn lagoon]

Both parties have killed babies and civilians ..

[whole ruin]

So what?

Is that justifiable?

[thorn lagoon]

Your argument with me wont stop the war

[whole ruin]

Killing and kill kill they won't stop

[thorn lagoon]

they will continue to kill each other

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/russia-ukraine-kiev-kyiv-invasion-gif-24717675

[thorny steeple]

But who's wrong and who is right in your opinion?

[whole ruin]

Yeah that's better for earth, atleast some global warming will decrease.

[thorn lagoon]

depends on the perspective

[thorny steeple]

You Taiwanese?

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah , be positive

[thorny steeple]

He's a sound Indian I guess

[whole ruin]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[whole ruin]

But atleast exempt children from this warcrimes

[thorny steeple]

Cool

[thorn lagoon]

I can be a taiwanesee for you

[thorn lagoon]

I dont have an opinion .

[whole ruin]

That's too hard to bear

[thorny steeple]

But you said "Russia should've annexed Ukraine" and now you don't have your opinion. How come?

[dapper laurel]

Donbass belongs to Russia, Crimea too, but everything else is Ukrainian

[thorny steeple]

👎

[thorny steeple]

I don't want anything from you...

Met loads of people from Donbass region, many of them speak Ukrainian and think they're Ukrainians

[thorn lagoon]

okay

[thorny steeple]

They want Donbass to be a part of Ukraine

Sound lads

[thorn lagoon]

Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.1 Samuel 15:3 ’”

[dapper laurel]

It is an unresolved issue, but there is a Russian minority there that is not protected

[whole ruin]

Who cares abt a silly azz book

[dapper laurel]

I'm not pro-Russian, but this could be a compromise

[thorn lagoon]

Its from the world most popular book

[thorny steeple]

It's rightfully a part of Ukraine, it was a part of Ukraine since 1991, loads of Russian people live in Ukraine in other regions, and they are protected, what's the logic behind it?

[safe crescent]

Yo! Diablo @whole ruin

[thorn lagoon]

NATO EXPANSIONISM

[whole ruin]

Religion is a shackle for humans to control their primordial behaviour, but if that book attempt to increase that then that's all bs

[thorny steeple]

Wow, both Finland and Sweden became NATO Members, now NATO Troops are even closer to Russia

[whole ruin]

Hii

[safe crescent]

Sup 👋

[whole ruin]

Doing great, hbu?

[safe crescent]

Same 😄

[whole ruin]

Glad to hear that

[thorny steeple]

They can't beat Russia. Russians know how to beat the enemy. They thrashed Nazis... they know how to win battle in critical weather.

[safe crescent]

Pleasure is mine ♥️

[thorny steeple]

I feel like I'm the one against the majority. Most of you support Russia without even knowing what is happening in Ukraine.

[thorn lagoon]

majority support ukraine

[thorny steeple]

I'm supporting Russia BTW

[thorn lagoon]

i also support hamas

[thorny steeple]

Get out

[dapper laurel]

You must be a troll

[thorn lagoon]

wanna join a hamas telegram group?

[thorny steeple]

Generally, I'm a cool guy, but because of these types of people... I lost my calm

[thorn lagoon]

russia support hamas and palestine

[thorny steeple]

No, they are not supporting them...

[thorn lagoon]

You dont like the bible , good sir ?

[whole ruin]

I do like the positivity of all religious books.

[thorn lagoon]

whats negative about that verse ?

[whole ruin]

Iykyk

if u have humanity then you can easily see the negetivity of that verse

[thorn lagoon]

ESV
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

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why did god command negativity then ?

you dont believe in divine command theory ?

[whole ruin]

Ask your God. I'm not your God.

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if god command a genocide , then it must be for a reason or for the good

[whole ruin]

Ignorance is bliss.

[thorn lagoon]

yes, knowing too much leads to depression

thats why i dont read anything

or study

education is depressive

[thorny steeple]

You speak facts and truth, I want to see how many people will get offended by you today. I'll be here watching you

[thorny steeple]

Our lives are more depressing than any other thing on God's green earth...

Indian Karl Marx

[thorn lagoon]

Saffron pepe

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I didn't get this one...

[thorn lagoon]

It's a saffron pepe drinking tea and a muslim seething in the background

It's a silly meme

[thorny steeple]

Oh

Anything special about saffron and Muslims?

Great mods! Well done. Chill lad

[unique light]

😂

[late atlas]

Yesss. Russia will not win

[hot bison]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[whole ruin]

Russia vs world

Cool

[hot bison]

But why? It wasn't even offensive. It was more confusing.

Oh it's the previous comments perhans.

Habs*

[dapper laurel]

What is something like that supposed to mean?

[umbral escarp]

Hello

[trim adder]

hahahah))) nice joke

[umbral escarp]

Is there always an good end?

[gaunt bronze]

Never!!

[manic juniper]

They have the right to education in their native language, there are Ukrainian, Russian, Romanian, Hungarian and probably even other schools in Ukraine

[cinder quartz]

What are you guys talking about?

[hard bear]

Is Israel a country or not guys?

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?define israel

[cursive bobcat]

Word: israel

Definition 1 (noun): Jewish republic in southwestern Asia at eastern end of Mediterranean; formerly part of Palestine
Definition 2 (noun): an ancient kingdom of the Hebrew tribes at the southeastern end of the Mediterranean Sea; founded by Saul around 1025 BC and destroyed by the Assyrians in 721 BC

Definition requested by felisdomesticus

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?define Palestine

[cursive bobcat]

Word: Palestine

Definition 1 (noun): an ancient country in southwestern Asia on the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea; a place of pilgrimage for Christianity and Islam and Judaism
Definition 2 (noun): a former British mandate on the east coast of the Mediterranean; divided between Jordan and Israel in 1948

Definition requested by felisdomesticus

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Here you go @hard bear

[cinder quartz]

The main features of a country: unity of territory; legislative activity; sovereignty; monopoly on the use of force (legal coercion);

[cinder quartz]

Israel has all this so it can be called a country

It's strange that this guy left

[manic juniper]

I thought Palestine was a Roman province, not a country

[thorny steeple]

Sound lad

https://tenor.com/view/ukraine-ukrainian-flag-stand-with-gif-25051339

[marsh robin]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-ok-okay-then-gif-24387952

[last acorn]

if jesus as u said is a god and god knows everything so how doesn't jesus know the hour if he is a god?
(as u r a christian look at this verse from ur bible)
@grand jolt @sonic terrace

only the father knows which means that father (Allah) is the only one who knows everything and that means that jesus is not a god since he doesn't know everything

[whole ruin]

Bruh

[last acorn]

the verse is from the bible itself what else do u want? 😆

[sonic terrace]

akhi why are you pinging me

i'm legit a Muslim

plus, do not ping me in this humanized zoo

people here are underdeveloped

[last acorn]

he was running out of the conversation so i wanted u to see how did the convesration end

[whole ruin]

Bruh I'm not interested in religions, i heard religious debates are waste of time, use this time to score some points with Allah

[shut iris]

He converted to canuckism, I’m the leader

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Or they lie to you or you just lying. Of course, they can speak Ukrainian and some may consider themselves Ukrainians, but they definitely do not speak Ukrainian like first language.

[last acorn]

what i want from him is to walk on the right direction and may allah forgive him

[whole ruin]

Ain't Qur'an says to mind your own business?

Let those other faiths be like that

[sonic terrace]

whoopsie

someone didn't actually read the qur'an

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I heard there's a verse like that

[sonic terrace]

did you nemesis

[last acorn]

what is that verse?

[whole ruin]

Lemme search it up

[sonic terrace]

oh my bad

yeah there is a verse from surat al kafiroon

and surat al baqarah

but the one in surat al baqarah for example
"Let there be no compulsion in religion"

means not to force religion on other people

[shut iris]

109:06 😉 😉

[sonic terrace]

but preaching isn't prohibited

[sonic terrace]

ty khabibi

[mystic shoal]

anf also wuth palestine

[shut iris]

You’re welcome khamaws Ieaderrrrr

[mystic shoal]

and also with palestine

[last acorn]

okay but we should invite ppl to the right way cause if they are convinced, it's good for them and if they didn't they are free

[mystic shoal]

welcome our leader
I see the fear in your eyes

[shut iris]

I fear no one else but Allah 😉

[whole ruin]

“There is no compulsion in religion: true guidance has become distinct from error, so whoever rejects false gods and believes in God has grasped the firmest hand-hold, one that will never break. God is all-hearing and all-knowing.” (al-Baqarah 2:256)

"The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve (Kafir)." (Kahf 18:29)

For those who are referencing the word Kafir. It says specifically in the Surah named al-Kafiroon, the disbelievers. To you be your way and to me be my way. Take your own path and I will take my own path. Meaning, leave us alone and do what you please, and we will do the same.

To you be your Way, and to me mine. (al-Kafirun 109:6)

The Quran states to incline towards peace with those who fight you, and peace is better in the sight of your Lord.

And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of God and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom God knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of God will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged. And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon God Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing. (Anfal 8:60–61)

I literally copied this from Quora

[last acorn]

ok i already know but if they are convinced, it's good for them and if they didn't they are free

وَمَنْ أَحْسَنُ قَوْلا مِمَّنْ دَعَا إِلَى اللَّهِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا وَقَالَ إِنَّنِي مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ

Who is better in speech than one who calls (men) to Allah, works righteousness, and says, "I am of those who bow in Islam"

[whole ruin]

Y'all should check if those meanings are accurate

[whole ruin]

Arguing ain't calling, brother

They would hate us

If we impose the faith

[last acorn]

we don't impose we just invite and they are completely free

[whole ruin]

Yeah that's all

[covert quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-then-gif-26630246

[whole ruin]

Hmm i meant verse like this

[last acorn]

@rocky hollow

[feral river]

I read it third time and I put it into google translate still have no idea on what it says

God is knowing everything and god incline peace ?

[whole ruin]

Arabic ain't easily translatable.

If u want it in Russian then u should check it in your native language

My bad in Chinese

[feral river]

Well i mean I don’t know what this statement actually means in English

[whole ruin]

And those English translation ain't that accurate

[feral river]

I have no idea

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.

[feral river]

Only the person who reads Quran may know it

[whole ruin]

Yeah that's why all Muslims learn Arabic, that arabic is a complex language

[whole ruin]

For example there's no word equivalent for "Allah" in english

So they use Allah instead of God

[blissful jackal]

I was trying to learn Arabic but it is very difficult.

[open plover]

Only God

[whole ruin]

God has gender

While the Arabic word "Allah" is genderless

God= male

Goddess=female

Allah= genderless

[feral river]

Isn’t allah is the name of god in Islam ?

Like Yahweh

[whole ruin]

Nah if u Google u can find more than 99 names for god

In Islam there's no specific name for god

[balmy lava]

Nonbinary god

[whole ruin]

You can find more than 99 names which refer to god in islam

[whole ruin]

Only humans can have genders. how can almighty be comparable to his mere creations.

[balmy lava]

What's the pronoun of almighty?

[feral river]

My name

[manic juniper]

You're telling me Islam was so important to Arab culture that they couldn't even figure out adding a third neutral gender despite Allah being supposedly genderless

[manic juniper]

Yes it's a literal translation, Arab Christians call God "Allah"

[whole ruin]

He/him

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My bad, Yeah it's one of the 99 names mentioned in Qur'an

[whole ruin]

since I'm not Arabian, idk why the pronouns are like that

[whole ruin]

Idk

[whole ruin]

But not specific like Jesus, yehweh..etc.

[whole ruin]

Ig there's terms for that in Arabic

[manic juniper]

No, there are only two genders in Arabic

[whole ruin]

Google

Huma and intuma

[manic juniper]

[whole ruin]

Literally means?

In english

[whole ruin]

What does this means?

They and you, innit?

Oh I see

[manic juniper]

Brother number 89

[whole ruin]

It's alright I'm a beginner in Arabic so idk much abt pronouns

Islam allows 2 genders and hunsa so who cares abt other ones

[manic juniper]

Seeps through the cracks

[whole ruin]

Ignorance is bliss.

[graceful valve]

Bliss is ignorance

[whole ruin]

والله أعلم

[graceful valve]

God is a father

Not a mom

Also God walks around in the garden in the adam and Eve story

For all we know, he might even have a body and a male sexual organ as well

[whole ruin]

@molten timber I'm tired of this

[graceful valve]

Tired of the truth?

[whole ruin]

Im out

Nah tired of debates

[graceful valve]

Anti-anthromorphism and God as a non-anthromorphic immaterial being is a pagan platonic lie
Origen the heretic invented this doctrine

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Who imposed our faith on you.

[lusty zenith]

Always an argument about religion in here