🧠｜serious-chat

[cyan yarrow]

It's for the one who asked for the link brother, don't just plunge in not knowing anything

[manic juniper]

It doesn't say much, just that the rates are higher amongst homosexual men and it could be linked to risk taking behaviour and recreational drugs

Also lack of vaccination against some of the STIs mentioned there

It says the rates are comparable amongst different ethnic groups, I'm sorry for the racists reading this

I guess you'll participate the next time

[cyan yarrow]

Huh!

[manic juniper]

Doesn't have anything to say

[cyan yarrow]

Since the last version of the World Health Organization’s Guidelines for the Management of Sexually Transmitted Infections was published in 2004, sexually transmitted disease (STD) rates among men who have sex with men (MSM) have continued to increase across the United States and abroad [1–3]. Factors associated with...
They're explaining the increase since last version homieeee

Did you even read properly? @manic juniper

[manic juniper]

That's called interpretation

[cyan yarrow]

That means that these diseases were already disproportionately higher, then the percentage increased once more, for the previous reasons. That is no argument for your point, that is still against it.

Meaning bringing that up, is redundent.

[thorny steeple]

What?

[cyan yarrow]

@thorny steeple It basically increased because people like you normalizing it. That's what is says

And accepting these studies.

[manic juniper]

It doesn't say that anywhere

I guess science is when you make stuff up and interpret what's written in a study

[cyan yarrow]

Homieee, that doesn't change the fact that it's higher between Homosexuals, redundant notification.

These are statistical studies.

Criticize who? if they want to get HIV and anal cancer it's their choice.

I made a point, a statistical one, you're saying I criticize and hate? pick a topic homes.

If only they had enough money to buy condoms and not change partners every second, how sad.

[thorny steeple]

What did you mean with that

[manic juniper]

That racists don't get any extra points today

[cyan yarrow]

That is a statistical fact.

Yes mam give me some minutes.

hhhhhhh

Just a funny comment nothing

@thorny steeple https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/39/4/1048/791327

Unprotected AI is a high-risk practice for HIV transmission, probably with substantial variation in infectiousness. The significant heterogeneity between infectiousness estimates means that pooled AI HIV transmission probabilities should be used with caution. Recent reported rises in AI among heterosexuals suggest a greater understanding of the role AI plays in heterosexual sex lives may be increasingly important for HIV prevention.

AI = (Anal Intercourse)

[feral river]

I think LGBT people deserve to be treated as normal people, but not a special one.

they are just practicing their right to be part of it.

[obtuse perch]

Not "only man* you yourself sent a source saying that yes, the infection rate for women is very low compared to men, but not 0%
And this is because men's reproductive organs are different from women's

[feral river]

but using specialize identity to seek more political power, that's bs and unacceptable.

[manic juniper]

It's lower than heterosexuals so your comparison is worthless

[cyan yarrow]

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/39/4/1064/796752

[Anal intercourse remains the most common means of HIV transmission in most of the developed world]

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1471-2458-13-1108

[obtuse perch]

For woman not man*

[manic juniper]

I guess you can't read, because that's what I always implied

[obtuse perch]

Ru against homosexuality?

[cyan yarrow]

Read the entire results

I gave you like a 100 other studies sis.

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/39/4/1064/796752

Back off, what irregularities are you saying?!!

[obtuse perch]

U literally said (only man)like you deny that there are no risks to women, even if they are smaller, and @cyan yarrow sent research that proves this

[manic juniper]

You can't even remember your own message
"Its not abt this studies indicate a high incidence of these diseases in homosexuals especially man thats it"

[cyan yarrow]

Goodbye sis, have a good day.
Try unwaxing your ears btw.

[manic juniper]

You deserve to be insulted just for the sheer amount of times that one has to repeat things over and over

[cyan yarrow]

uhh... you get the idea hhh

[manic juniper]

His research also focuses on men so again you don't know what you're talking about

[cyan yarrow]

I'm just giving you the studies that show AI has higher risks for transmitting HIVs you can you look at them, read about it on your own free time, no need to hate me hhhh

[obtuse perch]

And can u even seee cuz i said "especially man" and u replayed "only man" soo i prove to u that there is also risks on women
Its like this
Man and man =high risks
Man and woman= low risks
Woman and woman = slowest risks
But when u say "only man" its like ur saying there is no risk in an*** s**

[manic juniper]

"High incidence" implies that it's high amongst women too

I said "only men" because it's higher only amongst men. You're welcome.

[thorny steeple]

No, I said this too many times here

[cyan yarrow]

It is also higher between Man and Woman engaging in AI

[manic juniper]

He only mentioned homosexuals

Compared to heterosexuals

[obtuse perch]

Finally we have a point
when i said "especially man"i meant that it is higher risk for men sry if it wasnt clear eng is not that good tho

[manic juniper]

The point has been there since the first message, the issue is that you make up stuff or can't express yourself (or both)

[obtuse perch]

Got it (:

[obtuse perch]

Im still learning and try to improve my expression

[cyan yarrow]

From [Commentary: Probability of HIV transmission through anal intercourse]: "What do we know about the effect of viral load and anti-retroviral therapy on rates of HIV transmission by anal intercourse? The fact that the per-contact probability of transmission is close to 20-fold higher than for vaginal intercourse is a strong argument for not simply extrapolating data from heterosexual populations."

[manic juniper]

The real epidemic here is about reading comprehension

[cyan yarrow]

Mam it is a known fact that AI increases the risk in the scientific sphere, it is not a controversial statement. Look where-ever you want, ask whomever you please.

[manic juniper]

I never said anything against that, in fact I am not understanding why you're arguing at all

Seriously reread what I said about it all

I was talking to the other user

[cyan yarrow]

Well, the sister before you mostly didn't know that, so...

[manic juniper]

Then say it to her...?

[thorny steeple]

I usually get C1 / C2 as results on reading tests in English, yet sometimes I lose some point due to not knowing specific expressions, I guess it's normal when we're not reading on our NL

[cyan yarrow]

You said "I said "only men" because it's higher only amongst men", which is wrong. That's why I replied anyways.

[manic juniper]

Yeah I get that, but I mean if I'm replying to somebody else or if they don't remember their own text it gets impossible to discuss

[manic juniper]

I was replying to him, so again, it's pointless

[cyan yarrow]

As you say.

[obtuse perch]

||the an** is there to take out waste nothing more||

[slate socket]

Hello everyone Hope you are doing well. My name is Kaito from Japan and would like to make a great connection and explore common interests or opportunity for collaboration with everyone

[manic juniper]

Helou Kaito from Japan, welcome to the server

[slate socket]

Thank you for your reply @manic juniper

[obtuse perch]

Hello there buddy introduce ur self here #📝｜introduction and go here if ir looking for ppl #💭｜general (: have a good time

[toxic raft]

Hlo

[pine flare]

Hi

[orchid narwhal]

HI

[obtuse perch]

no need if its disgusting or inacceptable

There is a lot if topics to talk about better than this

Im not talking for me im talking for general there is ppl who wont like that for me we should not be ashamed of anything that enters into human nature but if its not very important to talk abt it we can talk abt others topics

[thorny steeple]

What's the topic is going on ?

[little dune]

anyone up to have a tandem friend english - german

wants to better up english

[thorny steeple]

I know a little German

[cyan yarrow]

Dictating what is conservative in the morally loose western thinking is counterintuitive, this WAS dissgusting a 100 years ago, then in 100 years incest will be normal, then zoophilia (bestiality)... It doens't stop.

[little dune]

@thorny steeple nice i would offer to better anyones german

[thorny steeple]

Okay

The serious chat isn't serious anymore . What happened to the people

[obtuse perch]

The term disgusting It differs from one person to another depending on the environment in which you grew up, society, and family. Yes, not everything that is disgusting is necessarily disgusting.
For example I grew up in a conservative family and when I first learned how I came into this life, I did not accept it, and it was very disgusting to me. I could not believe that my parents did that. lmao

[little dune]

what is your topic

[balmy matrix]

yapping

[little dune]

i do not know that word sorry

[shut iris]

What Miké said

[shut iris]

To endlessly talk about something useless

[little dune]

joins that game sounds lovely :D

[balmy matrix]

nah get out

give 5$ to join

[obtuse perch]

Fr and this is how to control ppl give them everything they want under the name of science give them freedom for their desires and congratulations u have humans without brains aka slaves

[cyan yarrow]

right

This is more emotional on their parts actually

If they were Caucasians a couple hundred years they probably would hate black people as well, following the morality in the society is what they do.

[little dune]

@thorny steeple you mean it is worth that

prove it 😄

[thorny steeple]

I think they do it on purpose in order to not lose their arguments, it's a trick people use when they are debunked

[balmy matrix]

they're talking about gays and stuff

so 5$ is fine to join

[thorny steeple]

?def yapping

[cursive bobcat]

Word: yapping

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by italusxix

[thorny steeple]

?def to yap

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[shut iris]

?def yap

[cursive bobcat]

Word: yap

Definition 1 (noun): informal terms for the mouth
Definition 2 (verb): bark in a high-pitched tone

Definition requested by schtraner

[balmy matrix]

" bark in a high-pitched tone "

stop the yap yall

[cyan yarrow]

talk alot in an annoying manner.

[feral river]

Fr and this is how to control ppl using some fictional stories and bs under the name of god congratulations u have humans without brains aka slaves

[obtuse perch]

The largest,most supportive and exploitation entity for slavery is the west, but every time we see the title now we can see it under the name of "individual freedoms" if this exist why the students demonstrating in support of Palestine were arrested Xd

[obtuse perch]

Hahahahhahahahaha

[feral river]

the largest, most supportive and exploitation entity for assimilation is the middle east, but every time we see the title now we can see it under the name of "allah" if this exist why the people demonstrating in support of Israel were suppressed or vanished LMAO

[obtuse perch]

religion and its laws are not a human creation they were created by the One who created this universe. If you want to talk about whether Islam is true or not, that is another topic.

[feral river]

religion and its laws are human creation they were created by the certain person, if you want to talk about it's true or not, that is another topic.

conservative american values with individual freedom or some stupid outdated ideology with terrorism, my choice is first.

[obtuse perch]

You want to hold demonstrations in support of a state that kills and bombs children every day shame on u

[feral river]

You want to hold demostrations in support of a state that suppress their own people using their people as shield to against the one who they are fighting with LMAO. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU GUYS

and freaking losers

[void lichen]

Look who's talking

[obtuse perch]

I just said my point of view

[void lichen]

Somebody tell him about the crusades

[obtuse perch]

Hmmm ur talking very sure if i proved that quran cant be writing by a human u would become a muslim?

[void lichen]

Their people support that state tho and and when ur being bombed frequently for no reason u have to take steps u don't like

[feral river]

ur talking very sure if you didn't proof that quran cant be writing by a human u would donate 10k usd to Israel ?

[void lichen]

No

[void lichen]

Why would he support genocide

[feral river]

I won't support human shield and a regime that bring people in danger too

they are suffering their own people by fight against Israel

[cyan yarrow]

Are you sure?..

[feral river]

better surrender then

[manic juniper]

Written down or memorised by various people, Muhammad was the only contributor to the content

[feral river]

if you don't need more bombs

[manic juniper]

Yes

[void lichen]

The Quran is a book filled with verses from god not man

[feral river]

I have no idea on agruing some fictional stories which told by specific person even I can declare myself as god or something

XD

[manic juniper]

It was written and memorised by people, regardless of the source of the content itself

[void lichen]

He's a messenger

[feral river]

It's being mixed by empty air with my d

[shut iris]

@sonic terrace @quick quarry your time to shine sheikhs

[feral river]

and it appears! as a book

[void lichen]

It wasn't a book first,it took a while but it was memorized first

[manic juniper]

Girl d?

Uthman

[feral river]

well well well...

don't mention it I don't mean that 🤣

[exotic lake]

god is an abstract idea created by us to explain the metaphysical happenings of the world. atleast thats how it was. now people use god and their beliefs against eachother. kinda removes the entire point of having faith

[void lichen]

And what'll happen if they don't fight Israel?

[manic juniper]

I guess, I have never bothered to check the full name

[feral river]

it's good if you have religion to find yourself to achieve your goal or have a better life, but it's stupid to use it to explain how the world works and enforce it on other people.

[manic juniper]

The consequences of "organised" religion

[void lichen]

It was actually deemed radical when the decision was made to make a written copy of the verses of god

[manic juniper]

Not that organised since there are so many sects and interpretations

[feral river]

being annexed, be part of Israel

[obtuse perch]

Hahahahhahaah wait a min
Have you seen any of the people of Gaza say that Hamas is using us as a shield? If Israel were truly a humanitarian state, as it claims, and would it only search and fight Hamas soldiers, then why would it kill citizens, children, and innocents? And if America were truly a state of justice, then why would it support Israel in such actions?
Did you even see how Hamas treated the hostages? if you dont i can show you (:

[cyan yarrow]

In 1871 Homosexuality is criminalized throughout the German Empire by Paragraph 175 of the Reich Criminal Code. Homosexuality was already a criminal offence in all territories of Germany, but it was regulated by the state authorities separately.

[feral river]

at least you won't die for this

[void lichen]

Why would they want that?

[feral river]

cuz you started the war, you messed up and you pay for it

[manic juniper]

Us? Aren't you Moroccan

[feral river]

they don't care you want or not, you have no choice

they don't need to care that

[thorny steeple]

Wrong tag

[feral river]

you are the one who is losing, not them

[void lichen]

C'mon u guys are the ones that came here from Europe just bcuz the Brits didn't know what to do with Palestine

[obtuse perch]

Proves bro proves if wanna tell me ur god is the right god give me proves

[manic juniper]

She's Chinese

[void lichen]

A group of people with god by their side cannot lose

[void lichen]

Can't believe it

[manic juniper]

I don't think the Chinese are colonising the Middle East

[cyan yarrow]

So was incest, does it mean you're fine with incest?
My point is that social morality changes, it doesn't dictate the good from bad, the truth from falsehood.

[feral river]

yeah you surely forgot the people who provided taxes, resources, fighters for their enemies called hamas, and you think Israel will just forgot them but the truth is not.

you guys gonna PAY ALL OF IT. BY BLOOD

[dapper laurel]

Happy Mother's Day

[feral river]

PAY IT BACK

[thorny steeple]

my mama's dae

[obtuse perch]

I speak for the Palestinians
Us= ppl of gaza

[cyan yarrow]

Destroys what? how?

[dapper laurel]

Woooo brooo, stop it

[manic juniper]

Us means "we" a group you're part of

[void lichen]

With pleasure until the last drop of blood

[feral river]

I see.

[cyan yarrow]

Victims how?

[feral river]

"yeah you surely forgot the people who provided taxes, resources, fighters for their enemies called hamas, and you think Israel will just forgot them but the truth is not." - Minecraft_652

nice sentence I made

[void lichen]

They say of democracy but when u want a a sovereign Palestine ur democratic opinions won't matter

[obtuse perch]

Lmfao
The quran is the word of god
If it written by the prophet we gonna found a lot of mistakes on it

[cyan yarrow]

You think that's lgbtq?

[feral river]

no no no, my sentence is the word of god

remember it, it's the word of god

I'm the god, I'm the supreme leader

[void lichen]

U do realize that Jewish law advocates for the death of ur people

[manic juniper]

I'm not god but I'm the only messenger of the Space Duck

[dapper laurel]

I'm more and more convinced that you are a troll

[manic juniper]

I can confirm the Space Duck recognises Minecraft 652

[feral river]

no I surely believe that I'm the god

and I'm the supreme leader of the universe

I'm the general secretary of the god is me party

[balmy matrix]

we got a god using discord 🔥 🗣️

2024 be like

[exotic lake]

of course. i believe one can have faith i almost anything that gives them hope to strive forward and appreciate the good things of life. doesnt necessarily mean god. but if they find hope in a "higher power" might as well make about it themselves rather than inculcating and imposing it to society as a life changer

[cyan yarrow]

You are ignoring the family members who concent. By the same logic, why isn't it fine for them?
And you need to answer this instead of giving me onomatopoeia

[void lichen]

Just like that indian who wants to fight god for his sister

No pun viv

[balmy matrix]

the only qestion is which one

[void lichen]

Ur cool

[dapper laurel]

I will serve you then !!!!

[void lichen]

Some idiot who wants his country to have a bad name

[feral river]

JOIN US, THE GOD IS ME PARTY!

[manic juniper]

No one:
Absolutely no one:
The Taiwanese flag: Hello there

[dapper laurel]

🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼 real china

[feral river]

EVERYONE IS THEIR OWN GOD IF U JOIN US

[balmy matrix]

i mean which god is he fighting

[feral river]

RETAKE THE MAINLAND 🇹🇼

[void lichen]

Idk some blue guy

Kirhsna I think

[formal pilot]

What's cooking here?

[manic juniper]

Pangean nationalism

[balmy matrix]

great that blud didn't take it to the holy cow

dude i'm eating

[manic juniper]

+18

[balmy matrix]

cover it up

[feral river]

oh crap, another kid under brutal rule of Hamas

[void lichen]

Ethey think it's okay bcuz they don't support israel

[formal pilot]

Add covers

[feral river]

that's pretty bad bro

[dapper laurel]

Scheiße, Bruder, not here please

[manic juniper]

@dapper laurel do you know Ettore Starace?

[feral river]

that's such an evidence of the brutal rule of hamas

crazy.

[cyan yarrow]

Genetic disease with protection?
Do you accept it if so?

[dapper laurel]

Obviously

[balmy matrix]

bro you're talking with an ulta pro isreali called minecraft_652

[formal pilot]

Go bull on cardano please, my life savings are on it

[cyan yarrow]

Ok, so it's fine by your logic

[obtuse perch]

Do u knon what we r talking e t?

[feral river]

how I'm a ultra pro israeli 🤣

[manic juniper]

Achille not Ettore, I made a mistake, btw believe it or not but I talked to a relative of his, I didn't know this historical figure at first but she is a fascist, and she talked about him to me

[balmy matrix]

too obv

[manic juniper]

Ridiculous to say the least, does she know that her relative is hanging upside down in a Wikipedia article?

[dapper laurel]

Ettore was the secretary of the Italian fascist party 💀💀

[balmy matrix]

also it's too clear that you're anti-islam

[feral river]

bro really thinks I'm ultra pro israeli but actually I just don't like some people using word of islam and spreading influence here.

[formal pilot]

It's enough guys

Let's talk about indus valley civilization

[obtuse perch]

Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha dis hamas did this OMFG

[exotic lake]

some day an incestuous couple might want to have a child. but the child will most likely have some or the other genetic disorder.

[feral river]

and those people are literally pro-palestinian.

[exotic lake]

its a mystery alright

[formal pilot]

It was found in indus valley

[manic juniper]

She was a fascist and she wanted others to feel pity towards her because they killed his relative lmao

[feral river]

the people under the rule of Hamas, I see it

[formal pilot]

1000 BC- 2500 BC

[exotic lake]

yo thats so cool.

[feral river]

I don't think that one is under the rule of israel

[formal pilot]

Dice

[cyan yarrow]

You're trying to work around it, let's say a Infertile couple

[balmy matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935989994735169546/971360888504336384/ezgif-3-df032e241058-1.gif

[dapper laurel]

What a mistake, achille, I got confused

[manic juniper]

Same, that's why I corrected myself

But yes that person

And I talked to his relative, she defended him and made me google him

[dapper laurel]

There are many descendants of fascists here, many of them think so

[balmy matrix]

justifying killing kids shows it all

[obtuse perch]

Before o said us i said "have you seen any of the people of Gaza say that Hamas is using us as a shield?" And us herr is for ppl of gaza not my fault if u misunderstood

[manic juniper]

I was pretty lucky though, since he was one of the most popular and high ranking I guess...?

[exotic lake]

yeah dude @cyan yarrow
incest = same family
lgbtq+ = different family
incest can be lgbtq+
but lgbtq+ ≠ incest

[cyan yarrow]

Why is it love when it's Lgbtq, but HOW YOU JUSTIFY when it's incest!
LOGIC >>>>

[feral river]

yeah so explain why is the kid under Hamas rule is being killed ? and why is the kid under Israel rule not being killed ?

explain it

what is the reason they were being killed ?

[cyan yarrow]

Brilliant break down

[feral river]

and why did Israeli's kid not being killed ?

[dapper laurel]

Yes, together with Mussolini, but how did you meet the person who told you about him?

[balmy matrix]

basically cuz the kind under hamas rule haven't got the support of daddy america

that's your point?

[exotic lake]

WHATS THE POINT IN TALKING ABOUT THE PAST WHEN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE MESSY?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!??????!??!?

[cyan yarrow]

LGBTQ= love is love
Incest = WHAT ARRE YOU SAYAYISDKDFJ

[feral river]

I see, but the more I think it's their regime fight against a tiger which they can't comprehend it.

it's just like a mouse fight against a cat

[dapper laurel]

However, almost all Italians have fascist relatives

[manic juniper]

On a videogame, they created a group chat and I was added to that too, I don't know why but one night she said "there are so many misconceptions about fascism"

[feral river]

that's pretty awesome

[dapper laurel]

I had them too

[feral river]

if you can literally took over Israel, annex Israel, and establish your order in Israel, I will support you

[obtuse perch]

If you do not know the laws of war, I will can teach u
Rule1:
If there is a war, it will be fought between soldiers, and bombing, killing, and starving citizens are not allowed. U got it??

[feral river]

but you can't, you messed up, you must pay it

that's what I'm saying

[balmy matrix]

so what makes it a tiger who can strengthen itself by killing kids is daddy america

[manic juniper]

It's normal, my grandparents used to be part of the Finnish Reds

Not exactly the same thing but they also were the losing faction

[cyan yarrow]

Let's see when you have two fathers and no mother, and your dad loves a dude. Your mom sleeping with a woman. (If you want the elaboration, you can make it anyways, you can say: Oh marriage destroys lives, you get married and then he abbuses you blah blah)

[feral river]

"yeah you surely forgot the people who provided taxes, resources, fighters for their enemies called hamas, and you think Israel will just forgot them but the truth is not." - Minecraft_652

[cyan yarrow]

Your logic says so, still you haven't made an argument against that

[feral river]

"yeah you surely forgot the people who provided taxes, resources, fighters for their enemies called hamas, and you think Israel will just forgot them but the truth is not." - Minecraft_652

[dapper laurel]

Wow, during the communist revolution after ww1?

[feral river]

I repeat it numerous time.

[balmy matrix]

spamming same msg dude

[exotic lake]

not necessarily
i mean destroying lives is really a subjective thing.
if people live a good life while being incestuous, then thats really their choice.
like lgbtq+ is a choice. with regards to the offspring, again, thats a consequence they're gonna have to deal with
but saying that it will destroy lives, differs for person to person

[manic juniper]

We got independence at the same time as the October Revolution so it was full of pro-socialism folks, all the major cities were socialist

[cyan yarrow]

Like?

[manic juniper]

The country itself has been socialist for less than a year

[dapper laurel]

But how did the other side win?

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-cat-cat-cat-dance-cat-funny-funny-gif-13226486845730141702

[manic juniper]

They were a lot more organised, eventually they secured all cities and captured an obscene amount of prisoners of war

[cyan yarrow]

Two people invovled in incest, protected, infertile. How is this different from a man in a man?????????

[obtuse perch]

Thats not even a justification this shows how much ur stupid

[balmy matrix]

He\she doesn't care obviously , they're pro israel , i've seen it many times

[exotic lake]

coz its the same family my brother

[feral river]

"yeah you surely forgot the people who provided taxes, resources, fighters for their enemies called hamas, and you think Israel will just forgot them but the truth is not." - Minecraft_652

3 times bro

[dapper laurel]

Bro, stop it, you must know he's a provocateur, ignore him

[cyan yarrow]

Ah morals.... ok now who's morals? The Targaryan morals? my morals, your morals? WHOOOS

You can't say you're logical, then deviate from your own logic.

[manic juniper]

They're kind of authoritarian or pragmatist, not necessarily pro-Israel it's just that civilian lives don't hold value to her

It's consistent with her morals and ideas

[balmy matrix]

yeah so showing them pics of dead kids won't change anything

[exotic lake]

essentially they mean that incest can cause drifts and problems within the family

[obtuse perch]

Ooh sry i thought i was talking to a human

[feral river]

nah civilian lives is a important resource for a country, it contains economic power and the power of organizations and the power of forces.

[balmy matrix]

nah don't waste ur time

[cyan yarrow]

Biologically wrong? are familly members different?

[manic juniper]

Pretty much lol

[feral river]

population is crucial, is a basic resources for every country in the world

[obtuse perch]

Yeah yeah mb i blocked her this the first time i block someone

[manic juniper]

I mean in the context of war

[cyan yarrow]

That's arbitrary, I can say the same thing about homosexuality

[manic juniper]

The civilians they're attacking will not be part of the Israeli workforce

[obtuse perch]

Ur right

[dapper laurel]

I think it's a he, in the end it's just a larper

[exotic lake]

of course you can
all these ideas are very subjective. arguing about it really doesnt make any sense coz it involves a lot of human emotions. and logic really doesnt have a chance against emotions

[trim kelp]

Who was it?

[feral river]

in the context of war, civilian lives can be a crucial point of a war, they are the citizens, they contains information of enemies, if they support you, you can conduct some stragics that enemy doesn't have

[manic juniper]

She's Chinese, genders don't exist in her language so she could be anything

[cyan yarrow]

Still dribbling, A man and a man CAN'T reproduce if you know science, a man and his brother analogy, talk to me about that.

[dapper laurel]

@feral river, I don't know if it's a she or a he, so I use it

[trim kelp]

Yeah they are very strange

[manic juniper]

Uhm maybe but usually they don't have any strategic value, unless they're part of a militia

[feral river]

see what they are using

[cyan yarrow]

It does cause you're saying it's not fine in case of incest, so YOU have to make a distinction or just be consistent with your logic

[manic juniper]

Honestly idc about gender either, I dislike genders in languages

[dapper laurel]

You could lie, who knows

[manic juniper]

Use hän 🦾

[feral river]

if you ever heard of the army from occupation forces which could maintain the order in occupied territories, like they work for the local capitalists, landlords and more to control their territory and receive taxes

[trim kelp]

I love women (real)

[balmy matrix]

hän hän hän

[obtuse perch]

I don't like to disrespect anyone. I was just trying to show him my point of view, but it turns out that it's not worth all this.

[balmy matrix]

will it change much if i used han

[dapper laurel]

Women scare me

[trim kelp]

Me too brother

[feral river]

It's hard to establish rule under occupation and it's expensive to use their own population to occupy the occupied territories but using their civilian to maintain the order is smart and cheap

[manic juniper]

Palestinians wouldn't pay taxes or work for Israel, from that POV would you care about them?

[exotic lake]

look personally, for me incest is quite alright if you're ready to deal with the consequences. but in terms of the biology, incest it really not good for further evolution.

[obtuse perch]

Yeah yeah mb I just noticed that and sry of yall if i share smth bothers you

[dapper laurel]

Its mind is closed

[manic juniper]

They are using their own Israeli citizens wherever they can, that's been their strategy. Morocco is doing the same in Western Sahara

[cyan yarrow]

Nor is Homosexualityyyyyy, it has a higher HIVs transmission......

[feral river]

It is important to de-threat them, if it's hard to feed them, they can conduct something like Japanese do in Shanghai and Nanjing

[obtuse perch]

I got my lesson

[feral river]

but now they gonna pay much if they kill them like japanese do, so at least feed them and made them alive

[cyan yarrow]

Cutting (or splitting) hairs aside, you accept a brother and a brother?

[feral river]

or send them to the camps to force work for Israel

[dapper laurel]

People on the internet are strange, if not schizophrenic, never trust anyone

[feral river]

remember, occupation is hard, it's a subject, and it will affect the fronts they maintain.

almost every leader study it

[manic juniper]

They will displace them and their own citizens will move there and occupy it, it already happened

[feral river]

that was called, annexation

not simply occupation

[manic juniper]

I'm saying they occupy the homes

[feral river]

annexation is like an action that just annex it

[cyan yarrow]

You still accept Homosexuality even giving the risks it poses for both parties, yet you talk about biological..........

[exotic lake]

yes
but you see you are dealing with HUMAN emotions. logic really doesnt stand a chance. its like convincing someone who believes in magic to not believe in magic. coz believing in magic just feels right but when in reality, it doesnt really exist

[feral river]

they annexed the homes.

[manic juniper]

It's both a military and civilian effort

[cyan yarrow]

At least you are consistent with your logic

[feral river]

occupation is they are maintain the order but the civilians are basically not their citizen.

[obtuse perch]

Hahahhahahahhahah nono dont but o though i were talking to a human but absolutely not I never expected that im gonna meet an emotionaless like that in my life

[feral river]

but an annexation is annex an area and naturalize this area as their own core territory

not just occupy it

[dapper laurel]

He just wants to provoke, nothing more, one day he will be banned

[exotic lake]

i really dont like indulging myself in this area of discussions. but truth be told i enjoy seeing people pour their heart and soul into proving a point

[manic juniper]

Benis

https://tenor.com/view/spurdo-forever-alone-gif-22941410

[feral river]

actually it's also hell to pay in modern eras lol

[void lichen]

The Jews here don't blabber about Israel like that guy does

[cyan yarrow]

If you refuse to accept those studies, and EVERY scientist you can ask... I hope you understand one day. Have a good day.

I don't accept incest btw, that was for argumental purposes. hhhh

[exotic lake]

the jews have had their share of drama ifykyk

[feral river]

the easy one is using their indigenous people to maintain the order, and send immigration to the occupied territories, then annex it is the best choice.

[void lichen]

What is that supposed to mean

[feral river]

use their indigenous people, use them as their own resources is important

it's a huge advantage if they achieved this

[void lichen]

Like using ur people as shield to achieve ur own political goals?

[void lichen]

Yeah some of them are actually good people

[manic juniper]

They can't because it will give them some legitimacy, and because Israel is an ethnostate so it's counterproductive

Unless they put them in labour camps

[feral river]

no I mean use the enemies citizens as resources to achieve your political goals

[void lichen]

That's not democratic tho

[feral river]

I see. then a labour camps is the best choice maybe

[feral river]

doesn't matter

[manic juniper]

See, I told you, she is a pragmatist

She isn't pro-Israel, she's just pro-power in charge

[void lichen]

No pun but that ethno state is filled with people from Europe alr

[feral river]

I'm a capitalist LOL

[void lichen]

Aren't u chinese

[manic juniper]

They're not European

[feral river]

I'm a citizen of People's Republic of China

[void lichen]

Same thing

[feral river]

and I'm native Chinese

[manic juniper]

If they have an European nationality maybe they are, but just like Americans they aren't European

[feral river]

I know a lot of ways to exploit the enemies and their territories, like the resources, the population and more

I'm a master of occupation and annexation

[void lichen]

Ethnically speaking,they all have had ancestors that migrated from Europe so

[feral river]

🤣

[obtuse perch]

In my opinion a person who is controlled by his emotions is a danger to society. humans must learn how to control their feelings.
For example
People who harass women do so because their instincts and feelings force them to do so, but a rational person will not do such actions even if he feels that he wants to do it simply because he knows that it is wrong and that he must respect the rights of others.

[void lichen]

Alr so go work with the Chinese army on getting Taiwan back

[feral river]

not now, that's not our best choice

it's not worth to do it

[manic juniper]

Ethnically speaking it matters little because no European identifies with them unless they are also Jews

[obtuse perch]

Fr i wish...

[void lichen]

European Jews

[void lichen]

Ur the master of occupation u will surely find a way

[feral river]

but I'm studying how to maintain the order in Taiwan ? like a Taiwan SAR, or province of Taiwan, or Taiwan under occupation.

I think we gonna do a SAR but I prefer loot their assets first

I prefer the Japanese way to exploit Taiwan

[manic juniper]

Only a SAR would make sense there

[feral river]

yeah but not maximum our benefit like the benefit of mainlanders

[void lichen]

Don't u guys have like a motto or something to get Taiwan under ur belt under the banner of the prc

[feral river]

well... Taiwan at least is under ROC's rule

still China.

[exotic lake]

totally with you... but, rights are also a very POWERFUL when it comes to emotions. its becoz of the feeling of independence and freedom we have rights. respecting ones rights is not rational, but it is the right thing to do. rationality comes in place of logic and you cant use logic when someone's rights are in hold

[feral river]

so we can't do that much

[void lichen]

Not the people's republic tho

[manic juniper]

Wouldn't you like to live there? Taiwan looks prettier imo, and people are more liberal, even if you had it into PRC control wouldn't you prefer to live there?

[feral river]

yeah not people's republic I know

[void lichen]

And the ccp wants Taiwan under their belt

[feral river]

I prefer to live in Taiwan but not be their citizen

[void lichen]

As a refugee?

[manic juniper]

Yeah I mean as a PRC citizen

[feral river]

I will remain my citizenship in mainland and live in Taiwan yes

if I can

[feral river]

nah

[exotic lake]

i love how people put they're heart and soul into trying to prove a point when in reality its the exact opposite 🤩

[void lichen]

That's not gonna happen

[void lichen]

Ikr

[dapper laurel]

I had an Ashkenazi relative

[manic juniper]

Finland had next to no Jews

[void lichen]

I once read the 613 commandments

[manic juniper]

There are some left in Sweden and Norway that descend from refugees

[feral river]

I clearly know who is my boss LOL

that's why I'm a capitalist

[void lichen]

Of the things I read,one law states that villages that worship idols should be burned down

[void lichen]

And he has European blood flowing

[exotic lake]

aint china communist tho?

[manic juniper]

There are always people that disagree with the government's ideology

[dapper laurel]

I had this relative in my mother's bloodline, everyone in that family has typical Central European features

[manic juniper]

Here it's a social democracy but there are plenty of socialists

[exotic lake]

hmm true.... just look at india's state. this year's elections arent going well for the ruling party

[void lichen]

It's socialism with Chinese characteristics

[feral river]

nah

[void lichen]

And where is he now

[feral river]

state capitalism or socialism with Chinese characteristics

[dapper laurel]

Dead

[exotic lake]

genuine question tho... how is socialism different from communism? or are they the same?

[void lichen]

State capitalism sounds weird ngl

[manic juniper]

Communism is a branch of socialism

[void lichen]

They're different but used interchangeably

[manic juniper]

Socialism is more generic than communism

[exotic lake]

ohhhh gotcha

[manic juniper]

Most socialist countries are led by communist parties, because the country is formally socialist trying to achieve communism

[void lichen]

A communist society is a society with no class,no capitalism whatsoever and it's achieved by a phase called socialism

[void lichen]

Exactly

[exotic lake]

so like socialism is a term used amongst people while communism is political?

[void lichen]

Socialism is also political

[manic juniper]

Both are political, but people often say communism because they don't know the difference or that's what their propaganda says

[whole beacon]

He killed plus 20 millions. Of his own people.
He is a legendary tyrant

[void lichen]

I like the way isfrun puts out stuff simple and informative

[exotic lake]

becoz ive mostly heard people say "communist nation" and "socialist ideas" so thats why im kinda confused
or maybe thats just how they speak

[exotic lake]

fr good for them ❤️

[void lichen]

They're used interchangeably but are different things

[exotic lake]

alright

[manic juniper]

Yeah, if you go only according by the terms used by those same countries they are strictly socialist, you can read their official names

[void lichen]

A communist nation would definitely wanna brag about how close they are to achieve it hence they call themselves communist nations

[manic juniper]

I've never heard of a country calling itself communist

[void lichen]

Or more so a communist nation can be defined as a country trying to achieve communism through socialism

[void lichen]

I have

[manic juniper]

Which is

[versed rain]

@manic juniper if u put turkey to anyside.
, which side would it be?

[feral river]

Is that Russian ?

[exotic lake]

maybe coz communism isnt universally acceptable?

[void lichen]

Stalin used to call the USSR as one,heard it in one of his speeches

[feral river]

that's not even Russian

they are Ukrainians

specifically, Ukraine SSR

[manic juniper]

I think it's more so because they want to be clear about it being a transitional phase and not "real communism"

[whole beacon]

I mean stalin

[void lichen]

Could u please shut up for god's sake

[feral river]

yeah I know that

[manic juniper]

Wdym, like West or something, or NATO and BRICS?

[feral river]

the ukraine famine

[feral river]

me ?

[void lichen]

Yes you

[exotic lake]

its beguiling that you admire terrorism and tyranny in the name of expansion and wealth

[feral river]

I didn't say it since I was the god

[exotic lake]

people really are mysterious

[feral river]

where did you got the information

[versed rain]

You're one of the few Europeans I've seen here. For some of my research, this is important. I will be glad if you answer.

[feral river]

for my sake ?

[versed rain]

yep

Country classes, parties(sides, allies) and so on

[void lichen]

U do realize that Judaism has doctrines to kill u for saying that stuff and I'm not even a Jew

[feral river]

well I would ask one thing, their expansion and wealth, suceeded or failed ?

yes or no I would like to ask

if the answer is yes, all measures are literally not important to me

[manic juniper]

It hit Kazakhstan pretty hard too tbh

[exotic lake]

world war 1 (in the name of german expansion) did not end well for germans

[feral river]

the world war 2

[manic juniper]

Ideally or currently? Or future estimates?

[feral river]

Soviet Union, suceeded, or not

[versed rain]

I want to know what kind of country Turkey looks like in Europe. Is it friendly, ignorant, hospitable, safe or problematic, etc

[manic juniper]

Kazakhstan wasn't Kazakh majority after the famine until the 80s I believe

[feral river]

It's Stalin lead Soviet Union defeat Nazis, it's Stalin developed the Soviet Union, and it's also Stalin turn a poor country to a superpower.

[versed rain]

Generally

[feral river]

no doubt he's a legendary great leader, but a controversial one because he did a lot of mistakes

[manic juniper]

Neutral and corrupt, those that visited think it's usually safe if they didn't visit big cities, those that didn't think it is questionable

[feral river]

like killed people, but does those people matter to the Soviet Union ? I doubt that

[void lichen]

It's hard to make decisions when ur wearing his shoes

[exotic lake]

again
the international military tribunal made multiple germans pay for what they committed
and even till this day, germans hold resentment to their past actions

[feral river]

if Stalin must kill those people to achieve this great success, kill them

[void lichen]

There were leninsts too on that group of people

[versed rain]

I didn't think there was a problem in metropolitan cities.

[feral river]

does it matter ?

[void lichen]

Ofc

[feral river]

cuz they defeat.

[exotic lake]

its not about the people of the "Soviet Union". its about PEOPLE in general

[feral river]

if they won they won't be there

remember they lose

[feral river]

oh yeah general ? who the hell cares that

[manic juniper]

I saw Turks complaining about that too, cities with many refugees they say

[versed rain]

Actually, Turkish police work well as far as I can see.

[manic juniper]

I don't know how true or common that is

[feral river]

this world isn't based on general

but group of people, political entities

who the hell cares general

[void lichen]

U can't have a revolution without having people in general

[obtuse perch]

For me your freedom ends when you harm or endanger the others or yourself
according to what I understood from what you said, I agree with you feelings are indeed strong, but we should not establish rights or laws according to feelings. This is how we will have a society controlled by feelings like animals. There are also people who have a great tendency to crime. Should we give them rights to commit some crimes, and if we give them rights? To commit crimes, is these are crimes this is very confusing now
I hope I understood what you meant even if I didnt sry feel free to explain or don't if you are tired or smth like that its totally fine.

[feral river]

yes right but are they matter ?

[versed rain]

Hmm, those are different things, of course.

[feral river]

are they literally matter ? or Lenin and Stalin ?

[exotic lake]

isnt that enough evidence to show that such war tactics are not beneficial for anyone. neither winning nor losing

[void lichen]

Tell me who does

[manic juniper]

They think it isn't safe because of that

[feral river]

nah actually after war, Soviet influence dominated eastern europe, and they are the superpower.

United States also rise after WW2

[versed rain]

We complain with syrians vecause they harm us.

[feral river]

and they kicked out those old colonizers like British and French

that's because of this war

[versed rain]

And what about foreign policy? How would you classify Turkey as a country?

[feral river]

only loser suffers

[manic juniper]

Basically tourists say the same, at least sometimes

[feral river]

some loser already doesn't exist on this map

that is the world

[void lichen]

Preach

[manic juniper]

Difficult to understand, it seems pro-Palestine at least in the diplomatic sense, and neutral towards Ukraine but they sent some help I believe

[void lichen]

They're trynna be friends on both sides

[versed rain]

There is no hookah culture in our country. I can tell you that most Syrian refugees buy hookahs and the help of the state, they are perverted on the beach. Sometimes they are really disgusting.

[exotic lake]

you are absolutely right, but political rights emerge from the feeling of being one with the nation. so making laws which give people a feeling of belonging is very much necessary to avoid revolts. now not everyone is like you and me, who believes that emotions shouldnt be overpowered, but we must look at the side where emotions play a critical role.
i hope you find this relevant coz with all the chaos in the background im really losing track of conversations. apologies 😅

[versed rain]

It supports Ukraine in the Russia-Ukraine war. With the help of Turkish Bayraktar armed vehicles, they hit a lot of Russian targets.

[exotic lake]

rise in wealth and power does not bring people together. it only benefits a certain section of society who are completely leniant towards the system

[feral river]

is people ever together.

I don't think people will together some day

and it will never be

[exotic lake]

no and war makes the gap WIDER

[shell lily]

That goes for westerner politicians that pay scientists millions of dollars to prove their filthy ideologies and come up with something that deviates the public opinion.

[feral river]

yes so do it, for me.

even for you

[void lichen]

He supports it bcuz it benefits him

[feral river]

will you support a war that benefit you ?

[versed rain]

And i think u know turkey signed an assignment with Russia for Europe's grain assurance

[feral river]

I will definitely do that if there is a regime that started war for me even they kill kids for me I will knee under the king/supreme leader/general secretary.

that was my highest appreciation

[manic juniper]

I think it's better than what some EU countries did, even without statements or anything

[void lichen]

What if they kill ur kids?

[manic juniper]

Maybe Turkey wants to appear neutral at all costs or to appear as an independent pole rather than being clearly aligned

[feral river]

fight against them till death, or surrender and made an another kid under their rule

because they are my new boss now

[exotic lake]

my friend, supporting mass genocide and tyranny is psychotic, but i see theres nothing that is going to change your mind
if believing in a world which is completely divided, in a false utopia, makes you sleep at night, then theres nothing i can say or do that will stop you from attaining that happiness

[manic juniper]

Interesting

If they kill two of your kids you should make three

If they kill those, make four the next time

[feral river]

at least I have a chance

[void lichen]

Can't believe the stuff that comes out of this guys mouth

[feral river]

or I will just die

[manic juniper]

I told you, it isn't about Israel, I think it's perfectly in-character

[void lichen]

Do it

[manic juniper]

Consistency 10/10

[feral river]

utopia never exists, this is the real world

[cedar oar]

Submissive grindset 💪

[feral river]

why

[void lichen]

Agreed

[void lichen]

I wanna see ur boss bring u back to life

[feral river]

my boss working good 🤣

[exotic lake]

lets not be so violent. they may be a disturbed soul, but they are still human

[feral river]

and I'm good too

[shell lily]

@feral river Congrats! you got their attention.

[feral river]

my boss is the second most powerful country in the world

coincidence ?

[void lichen]

Where are my flowers at

[shell lily]

wrong ping

[void lichen]

Why are u using discord tho

[feral river]

cuz i want

[void lichen]

But ur boss doesn't want to

[feral river]

who said that

[void lichen]

Get outta here

[feral river]

you don't really know my boss lmao

my boss even encouraged me to do that

[void lichen]

Tell me about ur boss

[feral river]

nah

[void lichen]

Welp

[versed rain]

Certainly right

[feral river]

violence is never the best way to solve the conflicts, but it's the ultimate way to solve it

"war is the supreme court of civilization of humanity" - Minecraft_652

[versed rain]

Because there are issues on which it has attracted a lot of reactions from Russia and the United States, and it cannot get closer to either side. Frankly, it does not prefer Russia very much.

[manic juniper]

It's like a more powerful version of Serbia

[feral river]

now I have 2 sentence

[manic juniper]

Serbia is supposed to be a neutral country as well

[versed rain]

It's never like Serbia.

[manic juniper]

Why not

[versed rain]

It's definitely closer to America. Serbia does nothing without support Russia.

[manic juniper]

Current Serbia is like that, they have a leader many don't like, their major partners are both the EU and China

[exotic lake]

alright, have it your way

[manic juniper]

They supported Ukraine by a significant extent, do you remember the NATO leaks?

Serbia was sending weapons to Ukraine in secret

[void lichen]

They think they're some Chinese philosopher and stuff like that

[feral river]

I'm just a regular person from China

[versed rain]

I don't know, it seems to us that there are too many pro-Russians. According to this, Turkey is very close to America.

[feral river]

and the god, the supreme leader of the universe, the general secretary of the god is me party

nothing more ❤️

[manic juniper]

There are, but it's just a facade, their economics rely more on EU and China, Russia matters little and they don't really support Russian foreign policies. Supporting Russia is a thing to appease the nationalists

Nationalists are happy if they praise Russia, but they don't bother to understand why their country seems to rely more on EU and China than Russia by any metric

[quick quarry]

Meh

[versed rain]

For example, in Turkey, they say to be careful when going to Serbia. I even had an acquaintance. The men looked at him as if they were going to beat him.

[manic juniper]

Serbia is a funny country in my opinion

They also annoy Kosovo and threaten it without actually invading it

This is also to appease nationalists

[versed rain]

They treat us racistically, we are not welcome. Kosovo is also a country we love. It also has its effect.

[prisma cipher]

Long story short. those, who support Russia are nationalists, freaks, dump people.

[manic juniper]

I'm talking about Serbians, it's true if you look into it

[feral river]

🤔 what If I support Soviet Union ?

[versed rain]

If the European Union really cares about rights, Turkey has a chance to join the EU, which is much bigger than Serbia, if it makes a change of administration

[manic juniper]

Their politicians get approval if they praise Russia and threaten Kosovo

[prisma cipher]

@feral river ask her, definitely not a good person

[feral river]

🤣

[versed rain]

Yes, we don't have a problem with nations, but nationalists are all racists and pro-Russia in my eyes.

[exotic lake]

i feel like you should give up, for humanity's sake. dont over exert yourself to prove a point

[feral river]

how about this one

[prisma cipher]

And also all rapists

[manic juniper]

They don't care about the USSR, not even about Yugoslavia

[void lichen]

Ye

[feral river]

ah I see, the Yugoslavia Federation 💔

Tito

[manic juniper]

Slovenians are the most Yugonostalgic, and they are also the least nationalist

[versed rain]

USSR was the most frightening country that i have seen.

[manic juniper]

Serbs and Croats are the most nationalist

[manic juniper]

Do you like Albania?

What about Bosnia?

[versed rain]

People like everyone else, I don't really like people, but I can rate them as good.

[versed rain]

Are u listing the most closer countries to Turkey in EU?

[prisma cipher]

a couple of facts about Serbia and its geographical location. this little country has no borders with Russia. Do i need to explain something about Serbian politics? I think no

[manic juniper]

They're not in the EU, but yes I think they're the most friendly towards Turkey in Europe

Most Turks I talked to like those 3 countries

[versed rain]

Why do italy and spain support turkey in EU?

[manic juniper]

No idea

Maybe they don't think the EU is that exclusive

It really isn't with Romania and Bulgaria in it

[versed rain]

We don't have a problem because none of them would say to Turkey, "You're not a European, you're a Turk."

[manic juniper]

Yes, they are humble and not very stuck up, people from my country on the other hand sometimes appear as such

[versed rain]

They prefer assimilated Georgians to Turks, whose Western origins are almost identical to those of the Greeks.

They do not count the society that has lived together for several centuries as their own, but the Georgians, who are Russian assimilated, are more interesting, despite all their attacks. I am by no means a nationalist, but if the Turks really wanted to persecute Balkan societies, none of them would be alive in the world today.

For some reason, I doubt that Europeans are really pro-human or peaceful, at least not the leaders of the countries.

@manic juniper whats ur think about?

[manic juniper]

The leaders aren't, the common person may be sympathetic to some nationalities but that's on an individual basis, Europeans like people from any continent care about those more similar to them first, look at how Palestine gets more support from Arabs and (secondly) Muslims, Turks do that with the Uyghurs because they're Turkic while they get little attentions from everybody else

A good example is how Minecraft 652 is completely detached from both Palestine and Israel, so she thinks what Israel is doing is good (even if she doesn't support Israel), because she doesn't care about either side

I think our leaders are no better than most leaders in the world, since we also suffer of inequalities and injustices, we are just luckier economically and politically

[versed rain]

In our country, no matter what you put to a vote, it gets close to 50 percent of the vote. The votes are always balanced. I understand what you mean, but if you've ever seen any Georgians, you'll know that none of their cultures are like Europeans.

[manic juniper]

Well Nordic countries are also like that, unlike most other European countries

[little dune]

make me your leader and it will be better

[manic juniper]

Countries like Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland either joined the EU or didn't join by a small margin

[little dune]

vote now i make you get a happy life 😄

[versed rain]

So why are cultural factors also involved in Turkey's bid for membership in the European Union? Travel all over Turkey, except for certain parts of the inner southeast, and you will understand that we have a face and skin that is completely no different from that of Europeans. Also, the Turks in Turkey don't really look like the slanted-eyed people in Central Asia.

In fact, none at all

[manic juniper]

Because it's much poorer or they assume the people have very different values, the language too at times

Some don't know Turkish isn't related to Arabic

[versed rain]

Hahah

I feel very sorry for this.

[manic juniper]

In my opinion Kazakhstan is also okay as a country and most Kazakhs seem likeable

Don't really care for the appearance, we also have people that look strange

[little dune]

what means strange

[versed rain]

We don't resemble in terms of face shape, I didn't comment on whether I liked it or not. Our cultures are not similar either.

[trim kelp]

Like 'different or not normal'

[little dune]

i mean why strange, thanks for your explanation, i expressed myself badly

[manic juniper]

Finnish actor Onni Tommila, he is 100% Finnish

[manic juniper]

In this case I mean that they look unusual compared to the average : D

[little dune]

kazakh natively?

[versed rain]

Frankly, it looks like the Turks in Central Asia hahaha.

[pine flare]

H

[manic juniper]

There are many people that look like him in the eastern side of the country

[little dune]

bilal was the king of kazharia?

[manic juniper]

My mum too has those eyes

[versed rain]

They are irrelevant to the Turks of Central Asia, like the Kazakhs.

[manic juniper]

Of course

[little dune]

what is the correct naming of people with those eyes?

[manic juniper]

In fact I think that despite the differences of Kazakhstan it could be a potential EU member too if it was less corrupt, it's partially in Europe too

[manic juniper]

Those eyes have a feature called epicanthic eye fold

[versed rain]

Is it more than Turkey?

[little dune]

epicanthic, need to google it

[manic juniper]

I think it's less corrupt and unstable than Turkey currently, but it's less likely to join than Albania or North Macedonia that have made great progresses

[versed rain]

I can't believe this comment, you can't even imagine how religious and loyal the Kazakh society is to their culture.

[manic juniper]

Really? I didn't get that impression from them, religion seems like a secondary thing to most even according to polls

[versed rain]

Uh, no

[manic juniper]

Similar to Turkey or Azerbaijan

[versed rain]

I don't know about him, but they are much more cultural and religious than us.

[manic juniper]

Tell me about your experience and opinion on them

[versed rain]

Their currencies are stronger than ours and they don't have much diplomacy, so they don't cause problems for most countries. Is that why it's important to you? So if there was a quiet kid sitting on the sidelines, in the corner, he would be more likely to join the EU?

[prisma cipher]

Is it a habit to ignore Russia’s interests? let's take all the countries around Russia into the European Union and not take Russia.

[manic juniper]

No, I also want Russia in the EU

[little dune]

very interesting thanks for the word

[manic juniper]

If Russia makes progresses like North Macedonia it is welcome imo

[prisma cipher]

It's never be in eu

[manic juniper]

I know, but I always wanted it in the EU

[versed rain]

I have been to Kazakhstan a few times, although they generally live in the city, there are also people who live in old Otag-style dome buildings like in the movies. In addition, I can say that there are beliefs such as shamanism and superstitions.

[manic juniper]

Russia and Turkey are two countries that, even at their best, would hardly be able to join the EU since they have so many people and it would threaten the hegemony of the largest countries of the Union (Germany, France, Italy), but I'm not against them joining

[prisma cipher]

I don't. I saw the attitude of Europe and I don’t want Russia to become part of Europe

[versed rain]

If u think like that, let me know. EU really wants independence or a dependent country?

[manic juniper]

👍

[manic juniper]

Well nothing wrong with those buildings no? Mongolians also still practice traditional pastoralist agriculture

[manic juniper]

Wdym

[little dune]

@neyro what do you mean by attitude

[manic juniper]

He doesn't like being left out I guess

[little dune]

who?

[manic juniper]

Him and Russia

[little dune]

i do not know, there is this brics growing?

[manic juniper]

Maybe but it's a different kind of alliance

[little dune]

i have too few knowledge

[manic juniper]

It's more about blocking the dollar and create a new currency than a real trade and political union

[dapper laurel]

Italy mentioned 🔥🔥🔥

[prisma cipher]

I mean EU attitude to Russian. I mean real action not words.

[versed rain]

The understanding of otag is common in that region. There is no difference with the Mongols

[little dune]

you are right if i remember correctly, they want to trade with something else

real action?

[manic juniper]

Maybe a new currency, to my understand BRICS wants to decrease the usage of the American dollar to trade

[versed rain]

I ask you to support Kazakhstan when Turkey is more European than Kazakhstan. I am not writing this as a Turk.

[little dune]

@manic juniper trade contracts probably, political, hmm, maybe you are right, i do not know

[little dune]

yeah i think that

[manic juniper]

I support both, neither more than the other, I wish both countries will be up to standard

[little dune]

yeah i wish all people to better their standards

[manic juniper]

I think it could benefit everyone on the long term and with the right policies, that's why I want more countries to join

To surpass USA and China

[thorny steeple]

Anyone watched UCL football league Madrid vs byran. I have some doubts about an offside at the last moment when Madrid shoot to the goal bark. That was really offside or not.

[prisma cipher]

@versed rain I have news for you. Türkiye can become a great country without joining the EU.

[thorny steeple]

Bro turkey is becoming improvement by European politics and several something such as visitor, lots of tourism also visit to turkey several place and different variety some sides.

Anyone watched UCL football league Madrid vs byran. I have some doubts about an offside at the last moment when Madrid shoot to the goal bark. That was really offside or not.

[manic juniper]

Nice, I hope the best

[thorny steeple]

Yeaa

[thorny steeple]

Also Sudi Arabia can follow this kinds of politics.

[dapper laurel]

I think Turkey cannot be considered European regardless

[versed rain]

Where were you from?

[dapper laurel]

Italian/german

Turks are different from Europeans both genetically and culturally

[cedar oar]

I can smell a debate approaching from 5 miles away

[versed rain]

Are you talking about the people you see as Turks in Germany?

[dapper laurel]

You are right

[dapper laurel]

I'm speaking in general

[cedar oar]

Turks from their apartment in Berlin vs. Armenians in there villa from Glendale. WHO WILL WIN?

[dapper laurel]

I don't live in Germany, but the Turks I saw when I was in Adana were really different from the Europeans

[versed rain]

@manic juniper said finland has really different culture with south europe. They have different genetics with "GENERAL" europeans.

[dapper laurel]

I made another shitpost drawing

[versed rain]

My brother, the people in Adana are Kurds.

They are not turk

[manic juniper]

Yes we do, we are the least related amongst all Europeans even if you include Turks

[cedar oar]

Now you revealed the first secret shitpost drawing, but whatever. Show me the second one

[dapper laurel]

I have friends in Istanbul, they are no different from those in Adana

[versed rain]

So they are kurd hahah. There are near 20 million kurds.

[manic juniper]

They are, but he is right because according to that standard we are even less similar genetically

[versed rain]

Istanbul is the center of all of Turkey. You see everyone but Turks, mostly Syrians, Afghans, Iraqis, Pakistanis, Kurds, Russians, Chinese, Americans, Germans, French.

[manic juniper]

That said we are still related to other Europeans, however those too are distantly related to other Europeans

Estonians, Karelians, Ingrians, Izhorians and Volga and Permyak Finns

[cedar oar]

The left most data graph, or whatever it is, look like Pearl Harbour

[manic juniper]

If you exclude those we are closest to Swedes

[versed rain]

Accordingly, the Greeks turned out to be the same as the Turks hahah.

[dapper laurel]

You're right, genetically you are different from other Europeans, but that doesn't mean we can accept Turkey as Europe

[manic juniper]

Sorta yes, Turks are still closer to Levant people (although it's left out in the map) but overall they are closer to southern Europeans than we are to any other

Maybe it's because they were all civilisations linked to one another through the Mediterranean Sea

[versed rain]

Unfortunately, I do not see anyone other than an arrogant and angry European.

@dapper laurel, u are not european bro. Turkey is the best european country. We cannot consider u as european.

You're completely asian

[dapper laurel]

I don't consider myself arrogant, but I cannot accept as European people who have tormented my ancestors for centuries

[dapper laurel]

According to whom?

[versed rain]

I know how the French raped my people in the southeast.

[dapper laurel]

I didn't want to offend anyone, I thought it was a fact

[versed rain]

For me huh.

[versed rain]

Excuse me, but whether we are Europeans or not does not depend on you, on our religion.

[dapper laurel]

Maybe it doesn't depend on me, but then on whom it depends?

[versed rain]

Geography

Hahahah

[dapper laurel]

Isn't most of turkey in asia?

[versed rain]

If you hadn't attacked me as a racist and a fascist, you would have easily understood how good and impartial I am.

[versed rain]

Both of europe and asia. So european

Our European part is more populous than most EU countries. 😄

For some reason, I can't associate us Europeans with a fascist mentality like you. Please get away from here, Asian.

[dapper laurel]

Woooooouh, why are you calling me like that? If I don't consider Turkey to be Europe it's not because I'm racist, but because I think it's a fact

[versed rain]

If you attribute wars to whether we are Europeans or not, then no one in your sectarian wars was European. 😄

[dapper laurel]

But Turkey is made up of 80/90 million people, only 15 million of them live in Europe

[dapper laurel]

Sorry, I'm tired, I'm not sure I understand you well

[manic juniper]

San Marino most European country

[prisma cipher]

But you consider Italy European.

[versed rain]

I'm not going to argue with someone who is no longer European about whether I should be European or not. My country is both an Asian and European country, there is no killing of innocents in your culture during war, but the French know how to rape in war. The British also know very well how to destroy the Ottoman Empire in the name of peace, but we are on good terms now. So what, we weren't Europeans then, are we Europeans now compared to England?

[dapper laurel]

Sure

[dapper laurel]

It is

[prisma cipher]

But turkey not

[versed rain]

Istanbul has 18 million people.

[prisma cipher]

Cool

[versed rain]

Tekirdağ, edirne?

[versed rain]

so near or higher

[dapper laurel]

Yes, exactly, what would be strange, do you have the stereotype of olive-skinned Italians by any chance? 😂😂 Do I look like this?

[prisma cipher]

But it was you who said turkey don't suit EU because Asian

[dapper laurel]

Nothing changes, it is a minority, and in any case one is not only European from a geographical point of view, but also genetically

[versed rain]

What is the population of Andorra? Very few, or is it not European?

[dapper laurel]

Let's say they have a different culture

[rough willow]

XR

[prisma cipher]

Your words

[dapper laurel]

But 100% of the population of Andorra is European, your reasoning doesn't add up

[versed rain]

Sorry, but I'm not going to take seriously someone who introduces Kurds to me as Turks. Even if 1 person in an Italian or engineer-minded German country lived in Europe, he would know that the country is European.

[dapper laurel]

Isn't it in Asia?

[rough willow]

Nah

[versed rain]

Should countries necessarily be on a single continent?

[dapper laurel]

It is North America in fact

[little dune]

is there a channel where english people try to correct others grammar

[dapper laurel]

Italy is also trans continental for a small part, but that doesn't make us Africans, lol. You cannot say that Turkey is Europe just because part of its population lives in Europe

[versed rain]

Everyone knows how racist you are, man. You said that Turks are not Europeans because they shed a lot of our blood in the first place. Believe me, no one wants war. Except for those in the Middle East.

[versed rain]

You are both European and African. If you live in Europe, you are European. That's it.

[dapper laurel]

And you are not racist towards those from the Middle East, you want to be European just to not look like them, I don't find anything wrong with being from the Middle East bro

[versed rain]

I'm not going to ask anyone if I'm European or not. Let's see you.

[dapper laurel]

Ethnically we cannot be considered African

[versed rain]

Turkey is in Anatolia, my friend. It's not in the Middle East, but if you want that, yes, Turkey is Middle Eastern.

[manic juniper]

Berbers and other North Africans were very loyal to the Roman Empire once

[versed rain]

I don't know how many hybrids there are in your country.

[dapper laurel]

They are not here

[versed rain]

Why, when they come, do you cut off their heads?

Sometimes you talk a lot of nonsense.

You say we have land in Africa and you say this cannot happen.

[dapper laurel]

Here's what geography tells us, this is the middle east

[dapper laurel]

I could say the same about you

[versed rain]

Enough of this stupidity. I'm not going to ask anyone if I'm European, Asian, Middle Eastern, or Anatolian. Unfortunately, some idiots and idiots do not want to admit this just because of their nationalist views. Come on bye bye

[dapper laurel]

But I won't say that, because I have valid arguments

[manic juniper]

Latvians are the OG Anatolian farmers

[dapper laurel]

Why do you want to be considered European bro, why are you obsessed with this??

[manic juniper]

Slovaks are direct heirs of the great civilisations of Mesopotamia

[cedar oar]

Wait, Armenia isn't Middle Eastern?

[dapper laurel]

Right 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[versed rain]

If you live in Europe, you are European, if you are in Africa, you are African. The fact that a country is transcontinental does not deprive it of its continental rights, Mr. Lawyer.

[dapper laurel]

It's Europe

[feral river]

Ur a Turkish lol

[versed rain]

BYE BYE🥱

[feral river]

And turkey is in Asia so Asian

[manic juniper]

I think some countries are more transcontinental than others

[feral river]

Easy

[manic juniper]

Or at least they feel as such

[cedar oar]

Hell yeah, I'm European now! Take that, Wikipedia page telling me that Armenia is an Asian country

[manic juniper]

Turkey, Russia, especially Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan, those feel more transcontinental than Spain, Netherlands or UK

[versed rain]

Because he loves armenians hahahah. Immorality is knee-deep.

[feral river]

I’m a European too, because I declare my home is the autonomous region of Europe !

[dapper laurel]

Ok, now think about it, most of the population in Turkey does not live in its European part, can Turkey be considered Europe???

[feral river]

😂😂😂

[manic juniper]

Why did they have to create countries right over the mountains, it's so confusing

Couldn't those countries be flat like Denmark

[feral river]

If you look at China

Or US

[cedar oar]

Though pushing Europe's borders that broadly might just make Poland Western European. This is all an elaborate plan

[versed rain]

Are the people living in the European part Asian, I want you to get an MRI image because no human being can live without a brain.

[manic juniper]

Yes?

[feral river]

Full of mountains and even border are in mountains

LOL

[dapper laurel]

I don't understand, to say this, it means that you consider being European as an enviable quality, isn't that a bit racist??

[manic juniper]

No I mean the entire countries, those I've mentioned are small and almost completely mountainous, they are confusing

[feral river]

Switzerland ?

or butan

[manic juniper]

No, those in the Caucasus like Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan

They are right between Europe and Asia

[feral river]

They are part of SU in before

Soviet Union and Russian Empire

[versed rain]

Nonsensical speech: Asian nationalist fascist. It's a dirty idea that you see people on a different continent because you don't like them even though they live on that continent.

[manic juniper]

Those countries don't make sense, sorry for whoever lives there but you should move the mountains to be more clear

[dapper laurel]

People living on the European side could be considered European, although they would have to take a DNA test to find out how European they may be

[feral river]

Not gonna lie I’m a 1% European and 1% black

So call me n*****

[manic juniper]

You can get a special scholarship in USA

[versed rain]

@manic juniper u are not european for this bro.

[dapper laurel]

No, I have nothing against people from other continents, I just try to be realistic, I don't think Turkey can be defined as Europe in general, but this is my opinion, don't give it too much weight

[feral river]

I’m European

[manic juniper]

Very nice

[versed rain]

If our DNA similarity is more than you are, it doesn't count us in Europe and jealously explains our Europeanness.

[feral river]

I’m European!!!!

I’m the European wuhooo

European European European

[versed rain]

Shut up little communist. You're just wandering around to mess up the partnership.

[feral river]

❤️🇪🇺

[dapper laurel]

♥️🇨🇳

[manic juniper]

@feral river is this your DNA test?

[cedar oar]

Calling @feral river a "communist" is a bad idea

[dapper laurel]

He is CAPITALIST

[manic juniper]

She created capitalism with Chinese characteristics

[feral river]

Oh u freaking l talking shi* here ?

[cedar oar]

Full Aryan supremacy 💪

[versed rain]

If you make people ugly, you're to blame, not that person.

[feral river]

Awwwww

[dapper laurel]

Better change the subject here

[cedar oar]

I don't know what you're talking about, or what's really happening, but sure

[cedar oar]

Lesbian lizards? @manic juniper loves discussing about lizards

[manic juniper]

It proves that I'm the least Aryan here 🦾 forever Uralic

[dapper laurel]

This can be good

[feral river]

🇰🇵

We need more totalitarian

[shell lily]

Anyway, you said they have to use protection, well the only 100% effective way to prevent sexual transmission of HIV and STDs is through abstinence - avoiding all vaginal, anal and oral sex. Using a latex male condom or a female condom can greatly reduce, but not entirely eliminate, the risk of HIV and STD transmission. Abstinence is the only method to completely eliminate the possibility of sexual transmission of HIV or STDs.

[manic juniper]

Indo-Iranian lore: so there was this horse and it pulls a chariot with a sun and then the thunder sky god
Uralic lore: space duck

[cedar oar]

No, you're fully Aryan! Guards, take her to the re-education camps to make her realize her true ancestry!

[feral river]

I’m the aryan too

[dapper laurel]

We can say that 🇨🇳 is the lost brother of 🇪🇺

[dapper laurel]

Honorary aryan

[cedar oar]

And bad. It depends on where the topic derails to

[feral river]

🇨🇳❤️ 🇪🇺let’s form an alliance and kick American ass

[manic juniper]

The flags are similar

[cedar oar]

An Honorary Aryan, like Andos said

[manic juniper]

Many stars and a background of one colour

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, we are the blue china

[cedar oar]

No, don't listen to him, Andos, he will stab you back the moment it suits him

[feral river]

(I never do that, just an excuse to annex the whole Europe )

Europe with Chinese characteristics

[dapper laurel]

Andós will try to listen to your advice

[cedar oar]

Reword that at once

[manic juniper]

🇪🇺🤝🇨🇳=🇰🇵

[cedar oar]

Are you getting fancy with the O, or do I have sone dust on my screen?

[manic juniper]

Belarus in one word

[feral river]

I’m not really used to add coma sorry

Freaking apple input system really sucks

[dapper laurel]

Do you want to colonize Europe?? It means I can have a Chinese baddie

[feral river]

They input condom instead of coma

[manic juniper]

Prato 2.0

[feral river]

Nah, we don’t want to colonize we are friendly so just annex and be part of China

[cedar oar]

You don't have to put commas, just paraphrase it and make the grammar correct

[dapper laurel]

Loll prato new china

[feral river]

Be Chinese, use Chinese characters, no other languages allowed and massive surveillance and re-education camps for European

That’s all enough I guess

[cedar oar]

Xingjang 2.0

[manic juniper]

Can it at least be traditional Chinese, if yes I can accept that

[feral river]

I’m terrible about grammar

[dapper laurel]

Seems reasonable

[cedar oar]

That's quite appearent, though it does not mean that you musn't strive for improvement

[feral river]

Nah no traditional only simplified

[versed rain]

I will not speak to the jealous any more. Turkey is an intercontinental country. The majority of them are in Asia. 15 percent are in Europe. Nearly 20 percent of the population is in Europe. Genetically, more Europeans than European countries such as Finland. Not every Turkish citizen you see in Europe is a Turk. Turks are not Arabs. Turks in Turkey live in Anatolia, the Middle East, Europe (the Balkans). We are not so jealous as some European nationalists are. Alright. Thats all for today. SEE U EVERYONE. Minecraft_652 apologies for my accusation, you know how cold-blooded and impartial I normally am.

[manic juniper]

This will be a problem

[feral river]

Who ever uses traditional will be directly executed 😠

(Actually we use that in some cases)

Lmao

[dapper laurel]

It's right that you do this to us, after we did this to you after the Boxer Revolution

[cedar oar]

Rebellion*, sire

[dapper laurel]

Sorry

[feral river]

Well that’s okay I don’t care that much 😂

I always see people changes

And it’s pretty fun

[cedar oar]

Our great imperialist monarchs have forgiven thy mistake. Make it no nore, Eastern Subject

[versed rain]

I know you did it on purpose, but you'd better not do it, please. With love.

[feral river]

Even I was changed, when I was in this chat 2 weeks ago I’m an authoritarian capitalist

But now I’m a totalitarian capitalist lol

[dapper laurel]

👍🏻

[feral river]

I just realized how much enemy I have

[feral river]

Yeah ofc

[dapper laurel]

You have too many, you have to conform to common thinking

[feral river]

You guys really need to think why I’m becoming more authoritarian after 2 week talk with u guys 😠

[versed rain]

He doesn't have to obey anyone. Everyone is free in their thoughts. Pay more attention to human rights and freedom. Fabulous one hundred percent European Italian-German.

[feral river]

West one or east one

[dapper laurel]

The central one