🧠｜serious-chat

[shut iris]

Break them up into sections and copy/paste

There what I usually do in that scenario

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

It was "/"not \

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/K16b8tcBnYU?si=oDUTJtLTyCESYE8V

This is wild 💀

[gentle gull]

Boikott Eurovision!!!

Banned Palestinian flag. Also lets Israel compete but denies Russia

[stoic crystal]

(also eurovision has just kind of become lame in general)

[onyx hazel]

That's not too much actually, here in Brazil we reached 32°

[versed rain]

I am a Turk and I hope Turkey will participate in Eurovision.

[orchid narwhal]

I WILL HOPE THAT WE WIN

[trim kelp]

(Loses)

[orchid narwhal]

WE WEIN YOI SEE! WE CAN!

ADEN! ADEN!

[meager stump]

What pedophile mean

[thorny steeple]

@orchid narwhal you will lose

cus u don't have country to join

[orchid narwhal]

we will win

[trim kelp]

Pedophile is an adult who likes kids, it's also used as an insult often

[meager stump]

Is it vulgar?

[trim kelp]

Very

[meager stump]

Can it be offensive if we use in common places

[trim kelp]

Very offensive, do not use this weird when not necessary

[vague kettle]

It's more inappropriate and very offensive

[meager stump]

Why is it even necessary ig?

[vague kettle]

Never use it towards anyone

[meager stump]

Ohkk

[trim kelp]

It is only necessary in VERY EXTREME situations

[meager stump]

Ohh

I was about to say to someone 💀

[vague kettle]

Hopefully you didn't

[meager stump]

Yeah like i hoped here to know the meaning

Before saying

[vague kettle]

Don't say anything bad towards anyone

[meager stump]

No i was in server a girl said im 13 then a guy randomly came said ur pedo blah blah and i left for a while

[manic juniper]

Gingerbread cake

[vague kettle]

But how can you be a pedo if you're 13?

I mean you are a kid, just like her

[sour marlin]

Bruh

Impressive

[manic juniper]

More or less that, it can't really be translated tbh

[meager stump]

Im not 13 that girl told a guy they were communicating i was watching them

[sour marlin]

Yea gotcha dw

[vague kettle]

I'm confused

But nevermind, just never use this word

[meager stump]

Ig like that was heat up situation so i was curious to know

[vague kettle]

If they use it - ignore them

[meager stump]

Hm

[thorny steeple]

Hakim based ✅

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-wanna-fight-fight-funny-cats-lol-gif-16958009

[grave temple]

Watched the video and I looked at the comments

What in the actual is happening

No way they are doing revisionism, rewriting history to suit their ideology/ideas

He legit starts the video by insulting people who believe real history

And says to use your brain and to not be controlled by the "pop culture"

I am speechless

That is legit a fallacy

Nobody believes this:

He legit has to get his head out of the sand

[shut kiln]

guys what is the word for someone who has nothing to do and does nothing but sits at his home all day

[shut kiln]

what

you dumb I'm not talking about myself

I'm trying to help someone get a life

[glacial lodge]

There's a noun for it, but it is censored by the server so I suggest you don't say it here.

[shut kiln]

homebody?

is the word homebody

its meaning isn't that bad I asked google

[glacial lodge]

I can tell you in a DM.

[onyx hazel]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[shut kiln]

Kanako DM me

[glacial lodge]

I did.

[thorny steeple]

Lazy

[obtuse perch]

does anyone know where El went?
i wanted to talk to him about the Quran, but I cant ping him?

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/xafer-trollgentleman-trollface-troll-gif-10531994125107892258

[thorny steeple]

Maybe banned or left the server I don't know tbh

[manic juniper]

He probably created another alt account, he'll be here soon enough

[thorny steeple]

He sure will

[obtuse perch]

ayoooo no way 💀 i thought i just cant ping him do u have his name so i can send a freind req

[thorny steeple]

No mate

Sadly I don't have him tbh

[manic juniper]

Search his messages and click on the profile

Maybe search amongst your old pings

[obtuse perch]

YOOO EL IF UR WATCHING ME FROM UR ALT ACC SEND A MESSAGE IN DM

[obtuse perch]

oh its totally fine tnx for ur help

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[obtuse perch]

unfortunately i alrd have a lot of pings i cant found...

[manic juniper]

Search keywords on this channel

[thorny steeple]

Damn I almost got bankrupted

[obtuse perch]

u remeber smth that he used to say cuz i know him 2 days ago

[obtuse perch]

im alrd

[manic juniper]

I don't see his messages, I've had him blocked for ages

Wait

I think RTG had a screenshot of one of his messages maybe?

[thorny steeple]

The Zulus went in and I don't have enough catapults to being a assault to reclaim Berlin so now I'm stuck by waiting

[obtuse perch]

his underage??

[manic juniper]

No lol I blocked him because he's a troll and he says nothing of value

[thorny steeple]

Nein I deleted those

[manic juniper]

I found it @obtuse perch
#🧠｜serious-chat message

Search those messages if you really need to

[thorny steeple]

My mistake I thought I deleted from the chat

[manic juniper]

I thought you were referring to your gallery

[thorny steeple]

Ye that's were I'm referring to

Ye

[balmy lava]

Hi, I read a book named 'Stop Reading the News,' which says that reading the news is a waste of time. What do you think about it?

[thorny steeple]

Well tell me more about the book

[balmy lava]

https://www.amazon.com/Stop-Reading-News-information-overload/dp/1529342686

This book says that news cannot help you better understand the world, but will give you the illusion of understanding the world and make people overconfident.

I remember a quote from this book If you really care about the fate of earthquake victims, war refugees or famine victims, give money. Not attention. Not work. Not prayers. Money.

This book has many points of view, I only remember a few

[obtuse perch]

Be patient everything comes in its time

[obtuse perch]

Tysm i sent a friend request 🥐

[thorny steeple]

Well news is part of the process of learning

[thorny steeple]

Sure but I sent in. War too early and got the English civilization destroyed

[obtuse perch]

Damn i wish u fix it soon

[thorny steeple]

Had to restart again

Two cities on the isle

[obtuse perch]

A lot of work i can tell gl (;

[obtuse perch]

Damn i knew its a video game hahahahahahah

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[obtuse perch]

Tbh i dont like strategy games its boring for me

[thorny steeple]

Ye there's also age of history

[obtuse perch]

AAAAAAAAAAA no i think we totally have deferent tastes i like action games

[thorny steeple]

Like call of duty

Rainbow six

And others

[balmy lava]

I like skyrim and GTA

[thorny steeple]

Nice

[obtuse perch]

Yeah y can see but im a fun of games like souls games AAA games fighting... games that have a lot of movements yk

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

[obtuse perch]

Till now my fav game is gow i played all the serie except 1 GOW RAGNAROK

[thorny steeple]

Have you played palworld or helldivers

[obtuse perch]

No

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[orchid narwhal]

this shaked it is israeli girl she killld by terorist in 2003 she was only 7 moths

LIKE SHE WAS A LOT OF CHILDREN israeli THEAT KILLD BY TERORIST NOT ONLY \ FROM HAMAS

[thorny steeple]

Okey?

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple my brother

[thorny steeple]

Sup

How's it going tbh

Everything's good

[thorny steeple]

Ok

R6, WARZONE, helldivers

[thorny steeple]

How's the PC setup

Nah

Normal one, I'm not a hardcore gamer

[thorny steeple]

Ok

Have you played on console tbh

Nah

I'm a keyboard guy

[thorny steeple]

Ok

I been limited to Android I suppose

[cedar oar]

All tankies are like that. Unfortunately they feel the urge to defend any "communist" regime to death, even if they were obviously wrong. Some even defend Pol Pot

[thorny steeple]

Have you played WARZONE Mobile? It was fire bruv... like

[thorny steeple]

I wished tbh

[cedar oar]

Hell no. That guy is probably the epitome of tabkieism and stupidity

[thorny steeple]

Well isn't everyone biased

[thorny steeple]

Goddam this cracked me

[cedar oar]

Are you serious? That's not an issue of bias, that's straight up stupidity and re-writing history

[thorny steeple]

Well thanks to our modern system it seems more divided and united world tbh

[formal pilot]

[feral river]

🤔

[cedar oar]

What are you talking about?

[feral river]

who tf cares the wrong in your head ?

tell me

[cedar oar]

What are you talking about, man?

[thorny steeple]

The topic you replied to tbh

[feral river]

I mean you are saying that "even if they were obviously wrong. Some even defend Pol Pot" and who tf cares the wrong in your head ?

[thorny steeple]

Any topic to bring to the table

[feral river]

you are obviously biasd on this point

nothing special

[cedar oar]

I'm having difficulties understand what you're trying to say

[feral river]

I don't think you have difficulties to understand what did you say.

[cedar oar]

He was re-writing history, straight up lying, and there are even some allegations of him being a racist

[formal pilot]

Conspiracy that Most of the countries are puppets of some big companies

[thorny steeple]

Interesting where's your sources

[cedar oar]

I definitely am. Re-word it and make it better if you want me to truly understand it

[feral river]

how is that re-writing history accusations come from ? from modern days cuz you guys are his enemies ?

[cedar oar]

Just watch the Hakim guy a bit, and go into the tankie sphere

[cedar oar]

Did you not see this message?

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[feral river]

nah bro I'm saying about this message from you: #🧠｜serious-chat message

what's wrong with them ?

[cedar oar]

The ones who defend Pol Pot? And the other tankies who will defend Stalin?

[thorny steeple]

Obviously who in their right mind would defend pol pot

[cedar oar]

Tankies would, and they did. It is absolutely ridiculous

Brb

[feral river]

that's pretty weird you call someone defend Pol Pot or Stalin as wrong, or they are clear about what Pol Pot and Stalin's doing for their country and favor to some of their policy.

can I say you are wrong because you stand with freedom of speech ?

[thorny steeple]

It sure seems likely it

[feral river]

then I'm wrong because I stand with freedom of eating ?

that's nonsense

[thorny steeple]

No but defending someone who killed a lot of people is not something I would defend

[feral river]

yeah I won't do that too but the only side you see is a man who killed a lot of people, the other side I see is a great leader defeated Nazis, turned a country from a poor, underdeveloped to a superpower.

[cedar oar]

Back

[cedar oar]

How is it weird to call genocidiers wrong? Pol Pot killed 25% of his own population, with a stupid slogan. Stalin did pretty much the same thing, but with a much more amplified populace

[cedar oar]

That's not the point

[thorny steeple]

Ye but Hitler still lead Germany to ruin he bite more than he could chew still not the point tbh

[feral river]

then what about liberation from moarchy and occupation by Pol Pot ? what about defeat Nazis by Stalin's policy ? what about their people who got ultimate freedom from Stalin ? what about that ?

you only say something they messed up but you didn't really realize what did they exactly do for it.

[thorny steeple]

It isn't tbh

[feral river]

all they are doing is practice their way for their country and people.

just different than you guys.

[thorny steeple]

Well pot killed 25% percent of the population, Stalin's policy is still felt across Russia, and it was more like under new management

[thorny steeple]

Yea we don't work like that in the west

[cedar oar]

That first arguement completely ignores my point. Just because the British Empire abolished slavery doesn't mean that it didn't exploit them for 300 years. But sure, I'll play along. It wasn't really a liberation, but more of a replacement. Once again, completely ignores my point. Stalin was stupid enough to purge most of his army, and thus let the German's almost capture the 2 main cities of the USSR.

[feral river]

that's because you opinion is from the people's view, not Russian's, remember, Stalin is a leader of Soviet Union, not other countries, they don't really need to care you guys.

he's doing good for his own country

[cedar oar]

No, I say the truth of what happened. You seem dead set on defending their sentiment for some reason

[feral river]

no government work for other countries except this action can literally bring more interest for its own.

[feral river]

so British Empire exploit resources for who ?

tell me for who that's all enough.

[cedar oar]

What do you mean? I'm saying that they exploited slaves, and that's not all

[feral river]

remember, it's for British, British, British, British, British.

they exploit resources, for British.

[cedar oar]

What are you on about?

[feral river]

it's called British Empire not the freaking world empire

[thorny steeple]

Same I want some of that

[feral river]

they work for british why would they care those slaves ?

[cedar oar]

No sheiße, what does that have to do with the exploitation?

[feral river]

what the hell are you talking about

[thorny steeple]

Well it's been defunct since a lone time ago

[feral river]

they work for British not those slaves, those are just their tool to get more productivity.

that's called british empire

[cedar oar]

Are you out of your mind? I never said they have to care or cared. I said that they exploited them, which they did

[feral river]

yeah good job for that, exploit them for british

so ?

[thorny steeple]

And benefited both of them depending on the case

[cedar oar]

You're now not even arguing anymore

[feral river]

it's you are not arguing anymore, because I clearly said every country work for their own people, their own country.

Stalin is, Pol Pot is, British Empire also is.

not the freaking victim

[cedar oar]

So, they were exploiting human beings for their own benefit, which is a horrible thing to do. Did I have to spell it out for you?

[cedar oar]

You said that to somebody else, and that again ignores my point. Stalin was a genocidal maniac, there is no way of getting over that

[thorny steeple]

Ye but what's the blimey main point?

[feral river]

that was horrible if you think something like this. I think it's the greatest regime if they exploit those guys for me.

[cedar oar]

You truly a fascist

[feral river]

they did it for me. bro they did such those horrible thing for me, I can knee down to the king if they did that.

that was a greatest appreciation.

remember, they don't work for any of you guys, if you are not british, if you are not cambodian farmers, if you are not Soviets.

[cedar oar]

You ignored my points, brought up unrelated things, defended fascists, acted like them as well. I don't argue with fascists

[feral river]

I didn't ignore your point at all, but you really see only one side which whatever you want to see and it's clearly biasd.

unlike me, I will state their advantages, and disadvatages, at the same time.

which is more objective.

[cedar oar]

No, I don't see one side. It is you who are unable to see the other one. I am not biased for calling a genocidal maniac wrong

[cedar oar]

Unlike you, I will not try to ignore the massacres

[feral river]

you are clearly biased because you don't know they do those thing for which group of people.

the majority, cambodian farmers.

[feral river]

I never ignore massacres.

[thorny steeple]

Just tell me how's his point biased tbh

[cedar oar]

What? Let's say they did it for the greater good. Nothing can justify the murder of an innocent person, especially when it's 25% of your population

[thorny steeple]

Well, I think he explained it very well

[feral river]

I stated many times which I was basically saying that the only side you see is he killed a lot of people and you consider he's a bad guy or he's wrong to do but you forgot the goal he exactly do, which means he did it for the specific group of people which is cambodian farmer.

[cedar oar]

Because you are one of them, and are truly biased

[thorny steeple]

Ye and I think correct if I'm wrong the intellectual were targeted

[feral river]

you only say he caused massacre, but you didn't say he improved lives on cambodian farmers, which is obviously biased.

[thorny steeple]

It doesn't make sense saying that he is doing his video for his bias, he said that USSR made a lot of mistakes

[cedar oar]

There is no justification for it, and no goal can justify it

[thorny steeple]

That doesn't matter when you killed 25% percent of your population does it

[thorny steeple]

Nope, you don't need to be communist to understand his point in the video

[feral river]

that's what you think, which is not relevant.

[cedar oar]

We're not talking about that currently, but about the other thing

[feral river]

the truth is truth, truth won't change by your thought.

[cedar oar]

It's not the video we're talking about

[cedar oar]

Exactly, the truth is the truth, and you will unfortunately ignore it

[thorny steeple]

It is tbh

May I ask what is the topic then?

[cedar oar]

It was about that message I sent, let me find it

[feral river]

that's what you think, nothing special

I don't think they are objective since they only say result and conclusion not goal, measure, result and conclusion 🤣

[cedar oar]

I think it was this one: #🧠｜serious-chat message

[thorny steeple]

Ye but when evidence shows it self it can't be ignored

[feral river]

ofc it can't be ignored he killed 25% of its population

[cedar oar]

That's not what just I think. That's what 80% of the population thinks. Murder isn't ok

[thorny steeple]

So, it's your comment about Hakim's video, right?

[feral river]

that was a greatest mistake made by him

[thorny steeple]

Sheesh that's not good

[cedar oar]

There is no justification for it

[feral river]

80% of your population thinks doesn't matter to me okay ?

[cedar oar]

Yes, which somehow devolved into this

[feral river]

how is that 80% population thinks 🤣

[cedar oar]

Yeah, because you're a fascist

[feral river]

we think it's okay if they did it for majority of people, very nice

[feral river]

nah i'm not.

[thorny steeple]

Yea it devolved very fast

[cedar oar]

Go ask anyone right now seriously in #💭｜general

[feral river]

you are not the one who benefiting from this movement.

but I see who is the benefiting from it.

and you are not see it.

[cedar oar]

Yes, you are. You have no sense of humanity, or care about the genociders

[thorny steeple]

Well more like morality went out the window

[feral river]

how is that no sense of humanity accusations came out 🤣 ?

the greatest humanity.

[cedar oar]

There is no benefit from it, and if there even was, there was no justification for it

[thorny steeple]

And I said that he explained it very well because he provided sources and he didn't ""glorify"" USSR, he mentioned its mistakes. But you got it in a very exaggerated way

[cedar oar]

You seem keen on exploiting others for your own good

[feral river]

no benefit ? 🤣 are you out of your mind

[thorny steeple]

In none moment we say these countries don't make mistakes or they are perfect

[feral river]

say something to cambodian farmers, which the group supported Pol Pot to do something like this.

say something bro.

[cedar oar]

Again, that's not really the topic. It was supposed to be, but got devolved into me being incorrect to call Stalin and Pol Pot "wrong"

[feral river]

"the group benefited by Pol Pot"

[thorny steeple]

Well by one person in general chat it can't be Good and not ok

[feral river]

USSR always have a lot of mistakes all the time but all they want to do is benefit their own people, their own great Soviet Union.

they work for themselves.

[thorny steeple]

Obviously not every single movement is without a flaw

[feral river]

not some freaking losers and enemies

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[feral river]

no one works for its enemies except stupid.

[cedar oar]

They supported them? Are you serious? You know what, man? You have completely surpassed for what is reasonable in this arguement. You would probably even defend Hitler. Goodbye

[feral river]

why you think I will defend a loser which ruined its great German Reich ?

[cedar oar]

@thorny steeple, I'll argue with you now. Present forth your arguements for Stalin and Pol Pot, please

[feral river]

the country that took over the western europe and even occupied Ukraine ?

they ruined their own country.

[thorny steeple]

But about what?

[feral river]

the Greater German Reich

[cedar oar]

About the massacres they committed

[thorny steeple]

Ok, so, name one of them

[feral river]

he's a socialist, internationalist nothing special, he only see the great leaders's mistakes and not see the side of their goal and greatest vision.

[cedar oar]

I really would not like to name every single one, but let's start with Pol Pot, shall we?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide

[thorny steeple]

Why did it stopped?

[thorny steeple]

I know... It's kinda weird

[cedar oar]

Because Pol got killed

[thorny steeple]

Well that doesn't matter when they are dead does it

[cedar oar]

I'm not a socialist, I don't think. I'm a social democrat, if you will

[thorny steeple]

That's great. Who killed him tbh?

[cedar oar]

Pol Pot's regime, thus he has most of the blame

[thorny steeple]

Interesting I thought he would have 100% control of it

[feral river]

ok then social democrat, I'm not a fascist, I'm a capitalist.

[cedar oar]

Well, he probably did have total control over Cambodia, much like Kim Jong Un

[cedar oar]

Yes, you are a fascist. You don't mind exploiting others, or the massacres, because they had a reason for it

[thorny steeple]

How did then lost control of the nation?

[cedar oar]

Outside intervention, I believe

[thorny steeple]

The war with Vietnam?

[cedar oar]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Thought Vietnam was crippled after the war with the US

[cedar oar]

Not crippled enough to not be able to invade another country very much crippled like them

[thorny steeple]

didn't China also declare war in 79'

[smoky matrix]

Oh hey politics

[cedar oar]

That doesn't matter, as Cambodia was crippled enough from the genocide by Pol Pot

[smoky matrix]

Pol Pot was genuinely insane

[thorny steeple]

Well that sure was a stupid mistake pot made

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[smoky matrix]

and yes the US did a lot of damage but there is more to it than that

[thorny steeple]

Reminds me of Romania

[cedar oar]

But oh no, he did it for the greater good. How can we present any rebuttals now it's joever

[cedar oar]

Not only genuinly, but completely

[thorny steeple]

During it's pre revolution and lost revolution

[smoky matrix]

I really hate people who call them selves communists but really just end up being fascists but red

The Khmer rouge were much worse though

[thorny steeple]

Ye worse than the Soviet Union

[smoky matrix]

but Marxist Leninism is just that it's red fascism and Pol Pot was absolutely a Marxist Leninist

[cedar oar]

They are called "Tankies". And may you perhaps be one of the non-tankie leftists?

[smoky matrix]

Right on the money hahaha

I am indeed a leftist, and a socialist, but not a tankie

[cedar oar]

I don't know about that though. Stalin had the quantity, and still the horror of Pol Pot's persecution methods

[cedar oar]

Hello there, comrade

[cedar oar]

What kind of leftist may you be? An anarchist perhaps?

[thorny steeple]

Ye but luckily stalin didn't obliterated the population like pot until WW2 came

[smoky matrix]

I am a socialist but my ideology is a bit of a mixed bag, socially I pull from some anarchism and some libertarianism (the originial libertarianism not what the term has become now)

[cedar oar]

Oh, boy. He still did a lot of damage. The reason for why the Germans pushed so far was because of his paranoia and incompetency

[smoky matrix]

Yeah Stalin did a lot of damage

[thorny steeple]

Ye but he also bricked Russia population with order 227

[cedar oar]

I see. I can closely call myself a libertarian (democratic) socialist

[cedar oar]

Not just Russia, he really loved spreading the equality of his terror everywhere! What a stand up man

[smoky matrix]

The Nazi commanders literally didn't want to push that far into Russia but it was Hitler specifically commanding they do and ignoring his generals. I mean good he was a fuckwit and fascists generally are. They're great at getting into power but they are absolutely terrible at governing

[thorny steeple]

He sure was!

[smoky matrix]

You should watch me on YouTube 😛 I'm a new channel but I do live streams and also shorter video content

[cedar oar]

That sure is interesting, but doesn't scratch the point of Stalin being stupid

[smoky matrix]

Well they were both stupid

That's the point, fascists don't know how to govern

[cedar oar]

Not really a fan of streams, but I may check them out

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[smoky matrix]

I cut my streams into shorter videos

[thorny steeple]

Ok have you used shorts?

[smoky matrix]

and my point is that fascists when they have the power make stupid decisions because they're incompetant

[cedar oar]

Good one. In West lied the fascists, in the East lied the fascists but with really cool uniforms and the colour red. The latter must've been good, right?

[smoky matrix]

Not really I'm not a fan of short form video, I have a couple up on shorts reels and tiktok but my filming format isn't really suited for it

[cedar oar]

Well, then I may check it out

[thorny steeple]

I'm more of a both long and short form tbh

[smoky matrix]

I mean there's fascists everywhere now, europe is full of them, the US is full of genuine nazis we're just going back in time really

[cedar oar]

Oh, TikTok and Shorts, I loathe those beyond comprehension, and generally avoid channels with any of them

[thorny steeple]

Nein mate

[cursive bobcat]

Please don’t defend Pol Pot he was a mass murdering fuckhead. - Sincerely Everyone

[cedar oar]

Fascists always make stupid decisions

[cedar oar]

Unfortunately are

[smoky matrix]

I try to do short form as well but I work just by myself and don't have like an editor or anything so its a pain to make short form

[covert quiver]

Got to say it the bots right

[smoky matrix]

The bot is indeed right

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[cedar oar]

All praise the bot

[thorny steeple]

That's thought I put them in raw no editing but in the future maybe

[cedar oar]

I wish we could say the F word as well, without getting censored

[smoky matrix]

[thorny steeple]

From Heaven thy Comes

[smoky matrix]

yeah only just figured that out lmao

[cedar oar]

He also can't use the sheiße word

[smoky matrix]

It's because I stream on youtube the format doesn't work well for landscape videos it cuts the majority of the content

[thorny steeple]

Well fricked me

[smoky matrix]

I'll try it with one of my most recent ones

I'm @visora on youtube too btw if you just search me up youll find it

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[cedar oar]

Wait, you've got Twitter as well? Tell me, how many tankies have you met there?

[thorny steeple]

Hahahahaha ye nice try

[smoky matrix]

a bunch lmao Im realvisora on twitter

I've met a few "maga communists" lately

[cedar oar]

Save yourself some sanity and get off that site

[smoky matrix]

which I find genuinely funny

[feral river]

“I will knee under the king if they do that for me” doesn’t mean I’m a fascist, but a capitalist.

[smoky matrix]

I would but it's good advertising for my channel

[thorny steeple]

I hate the rebranding tbh

[smoky matrix]

Gotta get off the ground somehow

[thorny steeple]

Well use TikTok or reddit

[feral river]

They can even massacre a group of people just for me, can’t believe that ?

[thorny steeple]

Looks who's back tbh

[smoky matrix]

Oh I'm on all of them

[feral river]

I will knee under the king/supreme leader/general secretary if they do that for me

[smoky matrix]

but I get the most traction on twitter

[cedar oar]

Here: #🧠｜serious-chat message

You truly think they are the greatest regime for exploiting people for your own benefit

[smoky matrix]

Capitalists...

[feral river]

Yes for me, I’m a capitalist no problem

I’m a capitalist

[smoky matrix]

Are you wealthy?

[feral river]

Maximum the benefits for me

[smoky matrix]

Like net worth over $1M including assets like a house

[feral river]

Not really but a middle class

Just not bad in here

[smoky matrix]

Then capitalism isn't benefitting you as much as you think it is

[cedar oar]

That's not capitalism. Putting people in chains and forcing them to work as serfs is not capitalism, (well, it kind of is, but it's more like fascism) it's fascism

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism?wprov=sfti1

[thorny steeple]

And indentured servitude it feels like

[smoky matrix]

Corporations exists literally only to make profit for themselves and their shareholders

Labor rights and protections have been under attack for decades

[cedar oar]

Exactly

[smoky matrix]

and the middle class is ever shrinking because of it

[thorny steeple]

That's what replaced Feudalism

[smoky matrix]

Free Market Capitalism serves to benefit only the select few bourgeoise

We're basically living in neofeudalism now

Go to your wage cage, go to the home you can barely afford and eat the food you can barely afford

[cedar oar]

B- but what about those wretched share holders? They haven't gotten their 1 million yet! We must break more backs of our slaves workers, so we can pay our investors in time

[cedar oar]

Because it's hurting their profit of course

[thorny steeple]

That's understandable but we need the profit yk

[smoky matrix]

Fiscal Socialism is the best way forward, it benefits the common good rather than the select few executives

[smoky matrix]

There's a difference between profit and what they do

[cedar oar]

The middle class will be exploited forever until it vanishes, just like the ozone layer, and the atmosphere

[onyx hazel]

Capitalists are the exploiters, who own the means of production of private property, they don't depend on wage and labour to survive

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[smoky matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6vHR8pbp0A

In fact watch my most recent video lol

[thorny steeple]

Well who knows maybe change might happen

[smoky matrix]

Literally about this exact topic in relation to food

[smoky matrix]

It won't change unless they're made to change

[cedar oar]

Never heard of it, but I think most forms of socialism are fine. As long as they're egalitarian, and have the common sentiment of working for the greater good of their people (without killing 25% of the population of course)

[thorny steeple]

Well in a corrected way we don't wan another Soviet Union

[smoky matrix]

In the US for example it's literally illegal for a corporation to make a decision that doesn't produce profit for the shareholders, they can be held liable

[cedar oar]

Now, look, you are a tankie, but I agree with what you said

[smoky matrix]

Financially Socialist, Socially Libertarian

[feral river]

You forgot one important thing which made me not a fascist which is the potential risk on massacring people.

It’s not the maximum the benefits but the potential prices you have to pay

The suppression isn’t free.

[smoky matrix]

anyone wanna hop in voice and continue this?

[feral river]

You still have to pay a lot of things, like camps, military for maintaining order

[cedar oar]

Most slaves were treated terribly, and even treating them "fine" does not remove the fact that it was slavery. Slavery.

[feral river]

And they are expensive

[onyx hazel]

💯 🗣️ ‼️ WE'RE GOING TO SEPARATE THE LEFT WITH THIS ONE 🗣️ 💥 ‼️ || and end up with the capitalists mocking at our faces ||

[cedar oar]

What are you suggesting? Slavery?

[feral river]

Slavery is not really a nice institution for the master

But the integration is

[cedar oar]

Leftism try not to start a civil war challange (Impossible)

[feral river]

An annexation is what they need

Not suppressing them

[thorny steeple]

Seems like it

[onyx hazel]

Well, I'm really lost, Idk what is the topic here

[cedar oar]

What are you talking about? They were taken from their homes and families and forced to work for aristocratic pieces of sheiße

[cedar oar]

It's whatever we feel like talking about

[feral river]

I mean the interest for master state not the puppet states

Who tf cares the puppies

[cedar oar]

I don't really chat in voice call, so I must deny this most kind invitation

[thorny steeple]

Whatever topic tbh

[feral river]

That’s why I see a lot of puppet states of USA exist in this world 😂

[cedar oar]

I honestly can only partially understand what you're trying to say

[feral river]

You mentioned slavery I said slavery is not the best policy maintaining the order and generate profit in occupied territories

[onyx hazel]

Half of the world...

[feral river]

The best would be an annexation

[thorny steeple]

Ye the American empire

[cedar oar]

Why is it profit? Why is profit the only thing you can see? Slavery is not a good thing in any way shape or form

[thorny steeple]

It's not the 18th century anymore

[feral river]

Not suppress them, it’s hell to pay if you suppress them and it’s a long term policy

Actually it’s failed

It’s totally messed up

[feral river]

I’m a capitalist

[onyx hazel]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[thorny steeple]

Ye its a bad thing tbh

[cedar oar]

Thaks for confirming the sentiment that capitalists are soulless people

[thorny steeple]

Ye the cycle of capitalism

[cedar oar]

Yes, but how far can they go? It's ridiculous

[feral river]

At least IM not a fascist 😂

[onyx hazel]

He's saying he's capitalist

[cedar oar]

Yes, you are one. Most capitalists are fascists

[feral river]

LMAO 😂

[cedar oar]

I know, but it's ridiculous how far some can go

[feral river]

I never think suppressing people is the best policy on maintaining order and strengthening the control

But an annexation and integration

And it’s successful

[onyx hazel]

Capitalists defend capitalism, so I think the're all fascists, because fascism didn't come from isolated political figures

I mean, originally

[thorny steeple]

Capitalism mindset

Ye it's too tiring

[feral river]

That’s why I think it’s pretty weird when he said stalin is bad cuz Stalin is not a international fighter 😂

He’s a great controversial legendary leader

[onyx hazel]

Do you own any means of production and you don't need to work? @feral river

[feral river]

Not much but i can generate some passive income

[cedar oar]

Stop twisting my words, I said that he massacred people

[onyx hazel]

Wdym by "not much"? Owning the means of production is yes or no

[feral river]

Nah

That’s pretty hard to get

[thorny steeple]

That's a simple answer tbh

[feral river]

The means of production in Marxism

I know that

[onyx hazel]

Wait, I wrote "how so", but I mean "not much"

I'm sorry, my bad

[thorny steeple]

Understandable

[feral river]

I think I will have a better mind after a systematic study on Marxism

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[feral river]

But not the class struggle

That sucks

Apple input system also sucks

[thorny steeple]

Apple user

[feral river]

Always input some freaking word

[feral river]

Ye

[onyx hazel]

Ye

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[covert quiver]

Dismiss your notifications

It looks ugly

also who tf has the Wikipedia app

Like who uses it as a source

[onyx hazel]

let him cook

[thorny steeple]

Intellectuals

[onyx hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lenin-communism-marxism-my-beloved-marxism-leninism-gif-22190797

[feral river]

idk where it comes from

How to dismiss

[feral river]

They informed me to install one and I installed

Otherwise I got notifications every time when I’m using my safari to access Wikipedia

[toxic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-ok-ok-ok-oh-ok-oh-okay-gif-18238573721271168162

[feral river]

at least better than communism and socialism

Even fascism are better than those international fighters

[smoky matrix]

LMAO goodbye fascist

[feral river]

LMAO goodbye international fighter

I’m not a fascist, I’m a capitalist

[vapid hare]

what do you think of the phrase "fascism is capitalism in decay."

[thorny steeple]

Have a good day tbh

[smoky matrix]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ @gilded pond @clear gyro

[feral river]

bs

Btw they can’t understand this cuz they are not living in a great power or superpower

The world’s order is based on us, five global powers

They really think that international thing matter

Actually that’s just an excuse to maintain the order established by us

We can establish it to defend our interests, we also can destroy it for our interests

And they are nothing cuz they are non-power or puppet states.

Just like the League of Nations

[vapid hare]

you mean the UN security council?

[feral river]

Ye

US, China, Russia, UK, France

[vapid hare]

the permanent members iirc

[feral river]

Some international fighters really think they can use our tool to against us

That’s impossible 😂 this world is still based on strength and power

[vapid hare]

neo colonialism is alive and well after all

[feral river]

based on money, guns, missiles, drones, and nukes.

That’s the world

[vapid hare]

USA USA USA USA

is the US still the world's sole superpower at this point?

[feral river]

Ye

Still sole superpower till now

China is just a great power

[vapid hare]

I thought china was more influential economically tbh. USA more powerful militarily while CN more powerful economically

[feral river]

Nah US still dominating the economy

The US Dollar

US’s the most powerful weapon is not nukes, guns

It’s the US dollar, when your enemies need US dollar to buy guns and resources, it’s all over.

[vapid hare]

what about the whole BRICS thing?

also china's influence in africa

[feral river]

Not really cause any threat to the US

[vapid hare]

maybe in the future tho

[dim fiber]

what even is brics

I still don't know

[feral river]

Africa is unstable doesn’t really have a nice environment to develop economy

[vapid hare]

its bricks 🧱

[vapid hare]

Ye but doesn't china have considerable influence there? through the loans they give

[dim fiber]

🧱

[feral river]

That’s nothing compared to the pressure of resources depending on USD

China doesn’t really have enough natural resources

[vapid hare]

BRICS stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa

[dim fiber]

is it like a union or smth?

[vapid hare]

nah its just an association of countries. Like the UN kinda

[dim fiber]

but w h y

what do they do

[vapid hare]

idk

[dim fiber]

😭 🙏

[vapid hare]

they do cooperation for economic/political issues. kinda

[dim fiber]

oh

I thought India and china had beef tho

[vapid hare]

Its like touted as resistance to the global western order but not really

[vapid hare]

They do but they still can cooperate sometimes ig? idk. They still engage in economic cooperation and maintain ties with each other for what its worth

[dim fiber]

crazy relationships 🙏

ok Ty byeee

[vapid hare]

america also has considerable influence in the world's institutions too

[feral river]

This situation will continue, I believe the totalitarian system is gonna be established by those great powers due pressure from puppets.

And that will be our paradise

[vapid hare]

wait you wanna keep the system as it is??

[feral river]

nah I think the system is gonna be more suppressful.

and the more suppressful system we have, the benefit we maximize.

[vapid hare]

You're on that oppressors' grindset

what if China is cast out of the world order tho

[feral river]

we are if you live in US, and I live in China

I'm the citizen of People's Republic of China

[vapid hare]

Would you rather a unipolar world or a multipolar world with China, Russia, etc as superpowers instead of just the US

[feral river]

that would be the end of the world.

[feral river]

I rather a multipolar world with China Russia and US, but not those freaking losers.

[vapid hare]

russia's image has been damaged significantly after that disastrous war in ukraine

[feral river]

yeah I guess, we need to send more aid to Russia

at least they need to maintain the front with Ukraine

[vapid hare]

hell yeah maintain the proxy war

[feral river]

yeah proxy war.

[vapid hare]

2nd cold war

East vs West again

@cedar oar Who assassinated JFK worst

[feral river]

some minor power really get benefit from this proxy war

I think east and west need to unite again against losers

[vapid hare]

WHO ASSASSINATED JFK, WORST.

[thorny steeple]

Oswald

[feral river]

establish a totalitarian system against them.

[vapid hare]

who are these losers

[feral river]

non-power

[vapid hare]

2nd Age of Imperialism

It definitely wasn't the one that start with a C.

[thorny steeple]

Ye Even the Soviet Union was like mate we got nothing to do with it

[cedar oar]

Yeah

[vapid hare]

Oswald was a commie after all

[feral river]

just like British conquered africa

those freaking losers really annoying and they pretend they are the real power

[vapid hare]

When will it start, mr minecraft

[cedar oar]

Vale, is this a question?

[vapid hare]

yes I need to know when africa is colonized again

[feral river]

Idk who knows, but that is the best way to expand our interests

[vapid hare]

Did imperialism really end? France still has some control over West Africa and stuff

[thorny steeple]

When did Europe started reaching it's resources limit?

[vapid hare]

US ruined their fun honestly

[thorny steeple]

Ye but before colonialism

[feral river]

Not end it’s never gonna be end

New imperial era is coming

[dapper laurel]

We are so back

[feral river]

“War is inevitable if a sovereign state holding enough power” - Einstein

That’s so damn true

[vapid hare]

who knows

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[dapper laurel]

New colonial empire?!??!

[thorny steeple]

God's gracious

is this really serious chat

[vapid hare]

europeans gonna make a comeback fr

[thorny steeple]

it seems funny one

[vapid hare]

i have no drill you speak of

[dapper laurel]

The greatest comeback ever !!!!!

[thorny steeple]

who great europe very funny

[vapid hare]

comeback arc will come, europoors ‼️

[thorny steeple]

study history bro

[thorny steeple]

Since 1945

[cedar oar]

Richonesians vs Europoors

Who will win?

[vapid hare]

are you saying you want my drill worst

[vapid hare]

richonesians clearly

[dapper laurel]

Rome is order, Rome is power

[thorny steeple]

no one is power

[vapid hare]

Im not the guide tf

[thorny steeple]

The latter

the only power is GOD ALMIGHTY

[thorny steeple]

Rome is civilization

[dapper laurel]

But colonialism was bad, joking aside

[vapid hare]

or am I?

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[dapper laurel]

Great european civilization

[thorny steeple]

the whole world is in danger due to some leaders of some countries holding power

[vapid hare]

https://tenor.com/view/monkagigaftmichaelfromvsauce-monkagiga-michael-from-vsauce-michael-vsauce-gif-24435884

[thorny steeple]

Since the Annals of history threaten in it's peak it's demise

we should avoid these stupid talks

God 👑

be human with heart thats it

[vapid hare]

God is king

[thorny steeple]

No human can be God u are humiliating God

[thorny steeple]

God is Gracious God is humbled

[vapid hare]

King of kings

[dapper laurel]

Christos anesti

[dapper laurel]

You're right

[thorny steeple]

Only the Romans thought could be God once

[dapper laurel]

The Romans are too pragmatic

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[dapper laurel]

Who knows what would have happened if Christianity had never spread throughout the empire

[thorny steeple]

Ye or if Christianity was into different sects

[feral river]

I’m the god

The supreme leader of the universe

The general secretary of the god is me party

[formal pilot]

Here

[shell lily]

@formal pilot A research showed also that the rate of AIDS among gays are 19 times higher.

[formal pilot]

Correlation does not equal causation

[shell lily]

wait prove me this

u said no STDs between gays

[thorny steeple]

Then were's your evidence 🧾

[formal pilot]

Homosexuality*

It's lowest in lesbians

[shell lily]

[shell lily]

so should we allow it only for lesbians?

[formal pilot]

We allow all homosexuality

[shell lily]

dude you are contradicting yourself

[formal pilot]

Where?

Correlation does not equal causation

[shell lily]

bro u said no STDs between homosexuals

[thorny steeple]

General chat

[formal pilot]

Just because there is a correlation between homosexuality and higher rates of STDs, it does not mean that homosexuality causes STDs

[shell lily]

what does this even mean?

[formal pilot]

If 2 gay are having intercourse without any STDs

[shell lily]

so what's the reason if you don't mind

[formal pilot]

They'll be perfect safe from STDs

[formal pilot]

Lemme explain

[thorny steeple]

my favourite

[shell lily]

so why is it 19 times higher to get infected by AIDS?

[thorny steeple]

topic

[formal pilot]

sexual behavior, access to healthcare, and social and economic factors

[formal pilot]

Cuz they f like crazy

[thorny steeple]

😂😂😂😂

[formal pilot]

Do you think gay couple can produce HIV?

[shell lily]

so these what made sense to you and not the same-gender sex?

[thorny steeple]

Well that's the hormones

[thorny steeple]

they can

it's true

[shell lily]

I thought im having an adult debate

[thorny steeple]

They can still get HIV

💀 yup

Along with Aids

[formal pilot]

Homosexual can't create a disease

I think yk that

[thorny steeple]

They can still be infected

Example Covid 19

[thorny steeple]

some people say it's genetic
but it's just a hypostasis
and the person who claimed this hypostasisal statement was a homosexual himself 💀

[thorny steeple]

Damn 😩

[formal pilot]

two uninfected same sex men can do homosexual acts with each other and not be infected because the STD is not present proves it isn't the homosexual act itself that causes higher STD rates in homosexuals. It is
unfair to say that a group is bad because of their higher health risks. Heterosexual Black people have the highest STD rates among all other heterosexual races, does that mean black on black heterosexual sex is immoral?

[safe crescent]

A woman gets on a bus with her baby. The bus driver says: “Ugh, that’s the ugliest baby I’ve ever seen!” The woman walks to the rear of the bus and sits down, fuming. She says to a man next to her: “The driver just insulted me!” The man says: “You go up there and tell him off. Go on, I’ll hold your monkey for you.”

(Joke in serious chat 💀)

[shell lily]

Homosexuality causes also severe psychological disorders, according to a study conducted by a Dutch team in recent years.

[safe crescent]

hey lil bill

[formal pilot]

Supp man

[thorny steeple]

💀

[safe crescent]

Yo!

[formal pilot]

@shell lily

[formal pilot]

Send me research, I'll give it a crack

[formal pilot]

How you doin

[thorny steeple]

how do y'all k a lot about ' geh sex" r u in this too?💀

[safe crescent]

Good wbu?

[formal pilot]

Yeah I'm one of em

[safe crescent]

Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one – and let the other one off.

lmao

[shell lily]

So again why is AIDS 19 times higher among homosexuals(give me valid proofs not the childish ones u sent earlier)

[thorny steeple]

Yea by a infectious needle

[thorny steeple]

We need sources

[shell lily]

this might help
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12182114_Same-sex_sexual_behavior_and_psychiatric_disorders_findings_from_the_Netherlands_Mental_Health_Survey_and_Incidence_Study_NEMESIS

[thorny steeple]

Stop the capping

[formal pilot]

Just because of unprotected and careless sex

[thorny steeple]

And needle

[formal pilot]

They can't create HIV i think yk that right?? @shell lily

[shell lily]

https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/hiv-risk-in-gay-men#risk

[shell lily]

ugh
so this doesnt happen in the normal sex?

[thorny steeple]

Well I wouldn't tbh

[formal pilot]

Learn the whole thing, basically because of unprotected sex

[formal pilot]

It happens

[shell lily]

https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/hiv-risk-in-gay-men

[thorny steeple]

Obviously it happens

[thorny steeple]

WBT Aids

[shell lily]

AIDS one read it in a different language
lemme see the english version

[formal pilot]

If a uninfected man is going to have intercourse with uninfected man, will they get AIDS??

Answer this simple question

[thorny steeple]

its not allowed here

not in discord

[shell lily]

ugh, you just don't make any sense
do you know what you're talking about or you are just saying some stuff to satisfy urself?

[thorny steeple]

Wanna know something ironic

wathch this if any legend know the man https://youtube.com/shorts/911rdkwxXbQ?si=uJEIwayCaUTqXrws

[formal pilot]

This is a logical fallacy

[formal pilot]

@shell lily

[thorny steeple]

all of your conservation is not allowed here

[formal pilot]

#🛂｜report-help open a ticket against us

[thorny steeple]

Ok take it easy

[shell lily]

I respond when you give me a logical reason of why homosexuals have 19 times higher AIDS infection rate

[thorny steeple]

We are just talking

hello I am not doing this I know nothing happenns but i can ask you for some manners

[thorny steeple]

In the 80s there's was a product called AIDS

can i know from where you are ill mannured are

i hope frome europe

[formal pilot]

According to your link

Just unprotected sex is responsible for this

[formal pilot]

@shell lily I'm waiting for your response

[shut kiln]

bro wtf this is family friendly server

[thorny steeple]

Bodily fluids are the transfer

[shell lily]

Who doesn't know that bro?

[thorny steeple]

Not saliva obviously

[shell lily]

waiting for the proof

[thorny steeple]

But the one intense ones

[thorny steeple]

And now to gay discussion and dieses

[formal pilot]

This guy

[shut kiln]

report

[shell lily]

im dying frm the inside

[formal pilot]

Feel free to report

[shut kiln]

this is family friendly server report

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[shell lily]

did you bring proofs that respond to this?

[formal pilot]

You asked i gave you explantion
First you refused to give me the evidence that homosexuality doesn't occur in nature

Second you didn't gave me explanation about why uninfected men having intercourse can generate hiv

[thorny steeple]

Well Aladdin were's sources

[shell lily]

he thinks he came up with something nobody knows

[thorny steeple]

Ye he's thinks he's Einstein

[thorny steeple]

Ok 👌

[formal pilot]

You asked me why it's common in homosexual

I gave you explantion

It was in your own shared link

[thorny steeple]

Ok make it more indepth

[formal pilot]

You can read again

[shell lily]

[formal pilot]

Now I'm waiting for your response

For the question i asked 1hr ago

[shell lily]

again doesn't that happen in normal sex intercourses?

[thorny steeple]

Well what's your thoughts on this

[thorny steeple]

In what

Precisely

[shell lily]

Blud is searching the whole internet to find something useful abt my questions yet he couldn't

he just yaps

[formal pilot]

You were asking why it's high, i have to response

[thorny steeple]

This blimey topic

[formal pilot]

Someone is saying gay couple can generate HIV, wow

[shell lily]

a333333333333333333333
Again normal sex also it is common to be without condom
what's ur resoponse to that again?

[shell lily]

sciecne said it
not me

[thorny steeple]

Ok explain tbh

Just take it easy

[formal pilot]

Skin around the anus is more thinner than skin around vagina, so small tears are more likely to occur

[thorny steeple]

I am against homosexuality in general

[ripe hornet]

how does one generate HIV without already having it in their bodies?

[formal pilot]

I'll punch my laptop on live stream

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[thorny steeple]

Ok 👌

[formal pilot]

Please give me the evidence that's homosexual can generate HIV

[shell lily]

so...? what's the conclusion.

[thorny steeple]

Yea that doesn't makes sense

[formal pilot]

Wear protection

[thorny steeple]

Boy

That's not a f concussion

[ripe hornet]

welcome to the HIV Mark 5 suit

[thorny steeple]

Damn

[shell lily]

I sent im not sending again.

[formal pilot]

Dude he's saying homosexuals can generate HIV

[thorny steeple]

Ay mama mia

Obviously

[formal pilot]

They can't generate HIV, it's a virus

Which transfers from one to another

[shell lily]

What about severe psychological disorders

[thorny steeple]

Ye it can also lead to aids

[shell lily]

wear protection?

[ripe hornet]

wear protection against psychological disorders?

[thorny steeple]

What do we've got in here?

[thorny steeple]

What about bodily disorders?

[formal pilot]

First accept that they can't generate HIV and homosexuality occurs in nature

[ripe hornet]

is this what people call the tinfoil hat?

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[thorny steeple]

This is because they engage in anal intercourse , in which the possibility of transmitting AIDS may be high

Use condoms then

[formal pilot]

That's what I'm saying, they can't generate HIV

[ripe hornet]

what does HIV have to do with psychological disorders?

[shell lily]

ah u mean generating
I mean it's proven that who don't have HIV will not have them after sex
My question was why the heck homosexuals have 19 times higher AIDS infection

[formal pilot]

He's bringing it up

[formal pilot]

Skin around the anus is more thinner than skin around vagina, so small tears are more likely to occur

[thorny steeple]

You will lose your money, respect, family, trust from your love ones, etc

[ripe hornet]

isn't this the reason?

[thorny steeple]

Ok don't bring it up then

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[shell lily]

mister awesome is here to respond to that

[formal pilot]

He's refusing to read

[thorny steeple]

He better do

[thorny steeple]

Then tell him to read

[shell lily]

"im embarrassed of talking about this but anyway"
Doesn't this go for straight sex also? like men and women?

[thorny steeple]

Ye STDs

[formal pilot]

Absolutely

But gay perform anal more

That's the only way

[shell lily]

wdym?

[thorny steeple]

Wdym?

[formal pilot]

I tempted to send you a video

[ripe hornet]

if what my high school biology taught me is to be believed, then biological men don't have a vagina

[formal pilot]

Correlation does not equal causation

[formal pilot]

That's absolutely correct

[thorny steeple]

They don't tbh

[formal pilot]

The whole argument was about does homosexuality occur in nature now we're here lmao

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[ripe hornet]

"what did the author mean by 'yes' when answering this question?"
(2500 words)

[shell lily]

Can you send the paper?

send something bro ur just talking the whole time

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[formal pilot]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090616122106.htm

Now he'll pretend like he can't read it

[formal pilot]

I'm waiting for the paper where it says that homosexuality doesn't occur in nature

And uninfected homosexual couple can get HIV

[shell lily]

Ah thanks
im gonna cook it tonight.
back to my question
why is normal sex doesnt have as much diseases and psychological disorders as the homosexual one

im waiting for the proof

he be like: Correlation does not equal causation

[formal pilot]

Told ya 5 times, you can read it

[shell lily]

ah okay
ig it is useless

[formal pilot]

Now accept that homosexuality occur in nature

[formal scaffold]

let homie be for his homies lol

[formal pilot]

@shell lily

[shell lily]

everything happens in nature
they dont have a mind what are you talking about

[ripe hornet]

make sure you kiss your homie goodnight when the debate ends

[formal pilot]

So you're accepting that it occurs in nature?

[formal scaffold]

cannibalism happens in nature

that's the lamest excuse I read in my life

[shell lily]

Absolutely
everything happens they are animals they eat each other kill each other they do everything

[ripe hornet]

and we aren't animals somehow?

[shell lily]

let him cook

[formal pilot]

Fair enough, i think we're on a common ground now

Apart from this i don't think we'll accept eachother's ideology

[formal scaffold]

if you think you are you are free to, in some western countries (you can even be a potato)

[formal pilot]

Rn we're discussing homosexuality

[shell lily]

I was talking about how lame it is to justify animals homosexuality in order to normalize it in society

[formal scaffold]

that's called counter example

[formal pilot]

Argument was does it occur in nature or not

And morality is subjective

[shell lily]

no it wasn't

[formal pilot]

You can scroll down in general chat

[formal scaffold]

"The tissue of the anus is delicate and can tear easily. This can leave more openings for an infection to enter the body. The person who is getting anally penetrated, sometimes called the bottom, is more at risk for STIs than the person doing the penetrating, sometimes called the top"

save your bottom @formal pilot

[formal pilot]

Ok

[shell lily]

Bro i was laughing about that conclusion

[formal pilot]

Some say it doesn't occur in nature, that's why I use the og homosexual lizards

To prove that i occurs

Is it morally bad or not, it depends on the individual

[shell lily]

i believe it is rare because we are born with that instinct of getting attracted to the opposite sex
and i believe too that it has some down sides to those animals

[formal pilot]

Yeah being straight is more common in nature, evolution also favours it

I was recently chatting about evolutionary aspect of homosexuality with a well known biology professor of my state

Her words it might help in survival for weak individuals but we can't say for sure, the only thing that we know is that, it was always there

[shell lily]

So do you agree that it causes more diseases and psychological disorders?

[formal pilot]

There might be a connection, cuz in general recessive traits are subjected to more challenges

[full hazel]

Dang I just got here I didn’t know THAT kind of debates occurred here 😭

[formal pilot]

But we can't say for sure

[shell lily]

There might be? ofc course there is
stats say there is

[thorny steeple]

r u gay

[formal pilot]

STDs can be prevented by protection and careful intercourse, homosexual couples can't create disease out of nowhere, so it's irrelevant

I'm more interested in psychological aspects

I'm not familiar with it rn, so I can't say anything about it

I'll give a crack to the study you've sent

[shell lily]

How can they prevent psychological disorders?

[formal pilot]

I think you haven't read my text

[shell lily]

which one?

[formal pilot]

I'm not familiar with psychological aspects

So i can't say anything

[shell lily]

ig u have to have a strong knowledge before advocating something

[formal pilot]

That's why I'm not saying anything about psychological aspects

[craggy pivot]

hewwo

[formal pilot]

I've explantion for psychological challenges after HRT

But I'm not familiar with in general psychological challenges in homosexuality

[keen scarab]

https://youtu.be/MbCYL_V1wh0?si=Z6Q5-J1Q_muZ9u4t

[feral river]

Netanyahu really need to focus on internal affairs.

especially need martial law in some places to maintain the order.

[orchid narwhal]

We are a democratic country he canot really do siruous thing

[obtuse perch]

Its not abt this studies indicate a high incidence of these diseases in homosexuals especially man thats it

[cyan yarrow]

The only thing he needs to do is resign

[manic juniper]

Only men*

[cyan yarrow]

What is it you mean by "monopolized conservative"

[manic juniper]

Most of the data about STI is about reports, so it doesn't necessarily reflects reality

It's only an indicator of who reports more

[thorny steeple]

The chances of catching SIDA for instance is increased in 3x when practicing an4l s3x, that's one of the reasons it's so high

I might try to find it later 'cause my phone is running out of battery, but I got to clarify that I'm not anti-gay or stuff, I just saw that one time and found it believable

[cyan yarrow]

• Syphilis Trends among Men Who Have Sex with Men in the United States and Western Europe: A Systematic Review of Trend Studies Published between 2004 and 2015

• Sexually Transmitted Diseases in Men Who Have Sex With Men

These are two of the studies that show such disproportionate cases of HIV and similar disease between homosexuals in comparison non-homosexual people

What is it your way of accepting a study? these are official ones.

[manic juniper]

Official ones? What does that mean

Are they copyrighted?

[cyan yarrow]

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/53/suppl_3/S79/312189

@thorny steeple@manic juniper

[cyan yarrow]

Copyright © 2011, © The Author 2011. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Infectious Diseases Society of America. All rights reserved. For Permissions, please e-mail: [e-mail].

[thorny steeple]

Now sum up this article and back up your arguments with it, just unleashing it on the chat won't change anything