🧠｜serious-chat

[vapid hare]

Why cant you have multiple masters

[feral river]

师傅/大师

[cedar oar]

Like I said, I don't know any grammar, damn it!

[feral river]

That’s weird

[cedar oar]

It was a parody of Shifu's name

[vapid hare]

You say that as you put commas everywhere

[manic juniper]

Lol a clerical error

[feral river]

That’s not 😂 no one’s name is master

😂😂😂 no one is master when he borns

[cedar oar]

Correctly so. Just because I'm unfamiliar with English grammar doesn't mean that I can't construct grammatically correct sentences.

[vapid hare]

Im not sure if that makes any sense at all but sure

[cedar oar]

It was a parody of Shifu's name, a character in the hit movie Kung Fu Panda

[charred trail]

Okay bro I understand

[feral river]

I guess

[cedar oar]

It does

[feral river]

Nice parody

[obtuse perch]

Tell this to the organizations that removed homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses just because of the protests + there are actually places that treat these things search youself

[vapid hare]

Or does it? Michael here.

[manic juniper]

"Search yourself" this isn't how a discussion works my guy, that's why no one takes you seriously here

[cedar oar]

Does anything you say really make sense, or is it just you affirming your stance?

[manic juniper]

And people would rather joke than engage in a discussion with you

[cedar oar]

I know. Nice propoganda too!

[vapid hare]

Do I ever take myself seriously is the question

[cedar oar]

Maybe

[feral river]

If there is China in US government file does it indicate that US is spreading propaganda about China ?🤔

[manic juniper]

Yes

[vapid hare]

Yes this is why China is the best and the yankees are big poo poo

[feral river]

[cedar oar]

Western propoganda! Eastern propoganda is what the real ones consume

[manic juniper]

I only consume Antarctic propaganda

Provided to me by the United Albatross Commission

[thorny steeple]

are you from china ma'e

[obtuse perch]

You say this, but the science that you believe in says that homosexuality exists in some organisms, so without it they would not reproduce, so it is natural for them, but some organisms that exhibit homosexual behavior are due to a defect in the olfactory receptors cuz of pollution
Homosexuality is something natural to some beings, but humans are not among these beings

[feral river]

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/China.html

For most visitors, the PRC remains a very safe country. Traffic accidents are the most common safety concern for U.S. citizens. Training, capability, and responsiveness of PRC authorities vary by region and even by city. The U.S. Embassy and Consulates General have no law enforcement authority and may not represent U.S. citizens in either criminal or civil legal matters.

To ensure your safety and security in the PRC, you should:

Take routine safety precautions.
Pay attention to surroundings.
Report any concerns to the local police.
Call “110,” the local equivalent to “911”. English services are often available, but you should not expect English services in remote parts of the PRC.
Violent crime is not common in the PRC, however:

While sanctioned demonstrations must be approved by PRC authorities, they can turn violent.
Domestic unrest and terrorism can occur.
Business disputes between U.S. citizens and PRC-national business partners can sometimes result in physical confrontation, detainment, or coercion. Go straight to the police if you feel threatened or relocate to a public place.

[cedar oar]

Imagine if West Korea existed, and tankies still said "Western propoganda!"

[feral river]

Propaganda

[obtuse perch]

I still see criticism, but all I see are children making fun of my writing error

[manic juniper]

Most birds outside scavenging birds of prey don't require olfactory clues, their sense of smell is quite poor in fact. So it doesn't explain why homosexuality is documented in penguins

Most birds have a sense of smell poorer than that of humans, it's pathetic

[charred trail]

Okay bro calm down . I see you changed your photo

[obtuse perch]

yup and if you search in quran you ofc you wont found elephent you want me to bring the verve from quran?

[charred trail]

@obtuse perch I thought it's another one 😂

[manic juniper]

This is like saying humans need to sense the electrical signals of other humans to be attracted to them, as if we had the same senses sharks have

[feral river]

If you are driving a tank and you are permitted to kill people (not innocent, most of them are terrorists or terrorist supporters) what will you do ?

[obtuse perch]

"Search yourself" i mean that he is must search for a psychiatrist himself to treat his girlfriend. Would he like me to go to his country and find him a psychiatrist who treats homeopathy? do you even understand what im typing lmao

[cedar oar]

A very safe country if you shut up and don't criticize the government, and don't do anything that might set off their suspicion meter

[feral river]

For me, I will not only kill them by knocking but using cannons to fire against them

[manic juniper]

I don't think you did even get that he was joking

[cedar oar]

Kill the terrorist students!

[manic juniper]

A tank in Finland would be quite damaging and wouldn't last for long I believe

It would get stuck in the mud

[feral river]

Not gonna lie you can criticize government but you can’t spread anti-Chinese propaganda.

[manic juniper]

Ask the Soviets

[feral river]

I even criticize Xi jinping multiple times

[obtuse perch]

Not all animals rely on smell to distinguish between males and females But my question, which I am still searching for a convincing answer to, is whether homosexuality is natural in humans. If so, why?

[feral river]

Too damn cold

Winter is coming!

[cedar oar]

Presenting forth a sentiment or opinion critical and/or disagreeing with the CCP heavily isn't anti-Chinese propoganda, it's simpl

[cedar oar]

Do it in public, in the centre of Beijing, and make sure you disagree with the authority thing

[feral river]

You can disagree with CCP, actually after covid times a lot of people disagreed with CCp even they say take down Xi jinping in some places

But government didn’t arrest them or do anything special

[cedar oar]

I wonder what happened to them

[manic juniper]

What's the point of mentioning other animals if you have to set the comparison aside when it suits you? Besides, many things in humans weren't a thing 1000 years ago. Were they using phones in China? Did we have supersonic jets in Finland? Did Arabs have 8K screen monitors? Why do we like those? Irrelevant

[cedar oar]

Yes, definitely did not do anything at all

[feral river]

Then you will receive a tank

That’s prohibited

[cedar oar]

Free tanks? Great!

[obtuse perch]

a joke or not this is serious chat ill take everything srious and he said IM NOT CAPPING If I ignore him, he will use this against me because I ignore him and have no answer

[feral river]

Yeah free tanks, maybe it’s the tank that to free you

[cedar oar]

Because it's considered public unrest, while all it really is is an opinion

[feral river]

Yeah that’s public unrest true but you can still criticize with your friend or with anyone you like

[cedar oar]

No, free tanks from the PLA is what all students want!

[feral river]

People always having emotions with authority that’s normal

[thorny steeple]

hlelo gyus

[cedar oar]

That's not public unrest. Protests are not public unrest, they are a movement for reform, and the CCP does seem so keen for them

[grave temple]

Indeed it is public unrest

[feral river]

We have a famous sentence that called 防民之口甚于防川 which means it’s just like stopping flood if you want to make people shut up.

[cedar oar]

Seems like the CCP is having a big emotional breakdown at the slightest sight of liberty

[feral river]

That sentence almost every Chinese learn from education

[grave temple]

Not really, different cultures different traditions

[feral river]

防民之口，甚于防川

It’s like blocking flood if you want people shut up.

[cedar oar]

I don't think it's a cultural thing, more of a political one

[grave temple]

In china, preserving order is the priority of the CCP

[cedar oar]

I have no clue of you'te talking about

[cedar oar]

At the cost of many liberties

[grave temple]

It is cultural

The Chinese never lived under democracy

[cedar oar]

How so? Was authority in China always high?

[obtuse perch]

Justifying human actions through animals actions is an illogical thing. hualn has a mind and animals depend on instincts. These instincts can be tampered with in various ways, and animals also perform many brutal acts. Is it possible for humans to perform these acts only because they exist in nature, but they do not exist? In his nature

[grave temple]

Yes, the people never got to make their decisions

[cedar oar]

But it still doesn't negate the more political aspect of it. This is just authority against liberty

[thorny steeple]

@feral river if i am permitted to inquire, how are you able to access discord in china💀 , VPN?

[cedar oar]

What about that one republic?

[obtuse perch]

You know that laughing in a discussion means that you have no answer

[grave temple]

Are you seriously going to talk about that. 💀

[manic juniper]

Yeah you're right, justifying human actions with animal actions isn't right. That's why homosexuality in animals shouldn't be compared to that in humans like you just did earlier

[feral river]

The phrase “防民之口、甚于防川” translates to “It is more sinister and ominous to stop civilians from speaking than to block the river flows.” This idiom comes from the classical Chinese text “Guoyu,” which dates back to the 4th century BCE. The full context of the quote is: “防民之口，甚于防川。川壅而溃，伤人必多，民亦如之。” In English, this can be interpreted as: “To guard against the people’s speech is more difficult than to guard against river floods. When a river is blocked and breaks its banks, it will injure many people, and the same is true when people are silenced.” This proverb emphasizes the importance of allowing free speech and the dangers of suppressing it123.

[cedar oar]

Yes, we're going to talk about that republic with the strange flag

[manic juniper]

Can't even take a joke

[feral river]

From Microsoft copilot

[grave temple]

Oml we legit cannot talk when there’s a trillion paragraphs @cedar oar

[cedar oar]

Fine. How about Taiwan? They're Chinese, aren't they? I know they're a very recent creation, but I'm trying to argue

[grave temple]

Tbh the Republic of China had like a single election and after political instability, the elections stopped altogether

[manic juniper]

Chinese logograms are funny because they save so much space compared to other alphabets, you draw a bunch of things and they make long sentences

[grave temple]

It was an unproductive, corrupt and disorganized state

[cedar oar]

It had a single election before it broke into several pieces*

[manic juniper]

Technically it's older, since it was formed by the older government no?

[formal pilot]

You you're accepting that homosexuality is natural in some beings, like it exists in nature, right?

[grave temple]

Taiwan was a dictatorship just before transitioning to a democracy in the 80s

It’s a new thing for them too

[cedar oar]

Is that my government you're talking about?

[grave temple]

💀

[manic juniper]

Earlier he admitted that it's only an issue on men

[cedar oar]

Yes, I know, but it still very faintly counts

[grave temple]

Either way, mainlanders never lived under a so called “western” democracy

[cedar oar]

What about Hong Kong and Macau? Actually, forget them

[obtuse perch]

if i am right how do you explain homosexual behavior in a person as something natural and not a mental illness? you support and I want to help them, so what is the meadow that you rely on to support them?
and I am not the one who compared animal behavior to human behavior

[grave temple]

And I don’t think they will anytime soon

[grave temple]

Hong Kong and Macau were both colonies

[cedar oar]

Technically Taiwan is the Republic of China as well

[manic juniper]

Real question: how do you explain it as a mental illness when most scientists agreed to remove it from the list? I think it's their choice, just like how it's my choice to play Fallout 4 or watch giraffes on TV

[formal pilot]

one study found that hophobic men are more likely to become aused when exposed to homoe**tic imagery

Sorry some words were banned

[manic juniper]

It's the only one, the other has a different name

[grave temple]

For a long time they were managed by a colonial government appointed by their respective governments

[cedar oar]

I know, that's why I said forget them. Those British imperialist pigs will pay one day

[grave temple]

I think they also transitioned to democracy in the 60s-70s

So not long ago either

[formal pilot]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/

[cedar oar]

Well, so much so for a people's republic

[formal pilot]

@manic juniper check this bad boy out

[manic juniper]

Don't search why they arrested an homophobic Hungarian politician and why he was at a party with cocaine and over 20 other men

[grave temple]

Personally I don’t think we will see a Democratic mainland China in our lifetime

[manic juniper]

Me neither, it's just like Russia

[formal pilot]

Nothing happened here on 5:20 AM Pacific time

[manic juniper]

They just missed out on that train and they don't seem to care that much about it

Those that do eventually find a way to immigrate

[grave temple]

The Chinese are fine with living like this

[cedar oar]

Oh, God damn it. It's still more of a political thing though

[feral river]

反攻大陆！retake the mainland!

[grave temple]

When asked are you free in China, they all say yes

[feral river]

That’s what previous ROC leader Chiang says

In Taiwan

[grave temple]

In china, the concept of being free is totally different from Western free

[obtuse perch]

sry im srious rn I don't like being a serious, do most of the time I speak freely, ask Aladdin, but this is a place to talk seriously, so I take any word seriously simply because I respect this place and its rules

[cedar oar]

It would be great though. China would be a really great place if it had all of those liberties we have here, and none of the censorship

[grave temple]

Not politically free but rather economically and being able to travel anywhere you want etc.

[obtuse perch]

yes

[grave temple]

Not going to happen

[formal pilot]

I can confirm he's one of the most chill guys of English hub, he's a god lad

[feral river]

That would be dangerous if there is no censorship and cameras the crime and corruption would be crazy

[cedar oar]

What are you talking about?

[feral river]

We need those stuff to prevent crime and corruption

[cedar oar]

[grave temple]

Different concept of being “free”

[manic juniper]

They can spend their money however they wish and they can travel and move around

[grave temple]

Exactly

[cedar oar]

I was talking about censorship, protests, really. Freedom of speech

[grave temple]

And they are fine with that

[manic juniper]

This is the same kind of "freedom" that was granted to most of eastern Europe after the decline of socialism

[feral river]

I was talking about we have different values on freedom, democracy thing

[formal pilot]

It's enough for me
Finally we're on a common point

I'll keep supporting homosexuality and in 2028 I'll provide some more solid evidence ||my friend is researching on it||

Until then you can live with your believes

[manic juniper]

Some were ok with it, others weren't, others slowly adapted

[feral river]

In our views we are a democratic, and we have freedom

That’s the difference

[grave temple]

Honestly they just want to live life and don’t want to cause social and political disorder

[formal pilot]

China is East Taiwan

[manic juniper]

West?

[cedar oar]

Well, I guess the debate always boils down to this. Still, though, there are pre-determined values for what freedom is depending on the ideology

[obtuse perch]

Because there are actually people who recovered before it was removed from the list of diseases, and it was not removed because they proved that homosexuality is not a disease, but rather they removed it due to the pressure of agendas and protests.

[grave temple]

Everybodys saying the Chinese are oppressed and why aren’t fighting for their freedom

[formal pilot]

Taiwan is in west of china, so I did the maths

[grave temple]

They are perfectly content with the status quo

[manic juniper]

Didn't they cause the death of Alan Turing through one of those supposed "therapies" to fix his homosexuality?

[formal pilot]

Take me with you

?awesome bot

awesome Aladdin died due to questionable activities, he'll resurrect on 13 may

||Awesome bot||

[prisma cipher]

[manic juniper]

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/lgb-suicide-ct-press-release/
Unless you consider suicide to be a solution, I don't see how it works

[prisma cipher]

Brb in 2 years

[manic juniper]

Brb to the Finno-Korean hyperspace war

[obtuse perch]

and till that time, remember that the science you trust says today that there is no gay gene
and that science can be falsified, and even if tomorrow a scientific paper comes out that says that homosexuality is natural, remember that after years it may be proven that the research was falsified.
now you know that your support depends only on your feelings and there is no evidence. I respect your honesty, my friend
As for me, I will not support an idea if I am not sure of its authenticity, 100% but you are free to do what you want.

[feral river]

反攻大陆！

RETAKE THE MAINLAND!

I’m glad to be a citizen of Republic of China! 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇹🇼 🇨🇳

[obtuse perch]

Do you believe that pedophilia and crime love can be treated?

[manic juniper]

Pedophilia can possibly be treated, but I don't see how this is relevant to a discussion about two consenting adults

I don't know what's crime love lol

[feral river]

at this time I always ask: what's wrong with pedophilia ? 🤔 💀

[manic juniper]

Most children are pedophiles, aren't they?

[feral river]

they are 🤣

when I was a kid I like my friend even I said I love her 💀

pedo committed 💀💀💀

[manic juniper]

You had your priorities at the times

Why did you love her

[feral river]

I was on a fight and she helped me, she gifted me a chocolate

do you know how important is 10 bucks of chocolate for a kid??!

[manic juniper]

Was it physical?

[feral river]

yeah physical.

[manic juniper]

Who was the bully? Or who started it?

[feral river]

hummm... me 💀

[manic juniper]

Very nice

I wasn't any different

[obtuse perch]

This is due to many reasons, the most important of which is stopping treatment at a certain stage because the patient does not see that he is being treated, so he decides with himself to stop treatment, and this is the biggest mistake any patient can make. Stopping treatment without medical advice is the most dangerous thing that could happen at all, and if we rely on Therefore, depressed patients who receive treatment are more likely to commit suicide than those who do not receive treatment. When treatment is stopped, complications may occur that make the disease more serious than it was. Should we stop treating people with depression?
Also, what is your solution for homosexuals? Do we have to support them so that they do not commit suicide? In my opinion, this is wrong because it is against human nature, but it seemed that why do not we help them and show society that if you have homosexual tendencies, this is not a bad thing, but rather just a normal disease like any other disease, and it can be treated. This patient receives treatment and support from society, unlike what we see today. Homosexuals are exposed to bullying and hatred, all because of the people who supported them and did not want to help them.

[feral river]

宁教我负天下人, 休教天下人负我

"I will hurt everyone just for everyone not to hurt me" - Cao cao

[manic juniper]

Source?

Unless you just wrote that based off personal interpretations and feelings

[manic juniper]

"Vierevä kivi ei jäkälly"
A rolling stone gathers no moss

• Some random Karelian

[feral river]

same meaning 🤣

but Caocao is different

[manic juniper]

No lmao it means that an unsettled person does not prosper

[feral river]

🤔

[velvet ridge]

Good morning racists and etc

no offend

[feral river]

it's discriminating racists! no discrimination 💀 (kidding)

[velvet ridge]

lol

we can offend in "serious chat" right?

to each other

like saying that there are only 2 genders

or no

[feral river]

you can say that

I think there are only 2 genders, but too many characteristics

[velvet ridge]

🤰 man can be pregnant then

[velvet ridge]

it is the evidence of that

[rapid tusk]

jokes aside some men really pretend to be pregnant

[pallid dust]

Who have an ielts , pls help me

[thorny steeple]

I am not able to share any media files?

Can anyone enlighten me why that is?

I face such a problem in various servers.

[rapid tusk]

I have some biscuits u want one?

[rapid tusk]

u don’t have pic perms?

[thorny steeple]

Why is that?

What I desire at the moment is the correct approach towards me being able to having the permission of sending media files.

It would be truly a kind (abstract) gesture of kindness towards ich.

[pallid dust]

Yes, why not?

[pallid dust]

I can help you but its 50$

[thorny steeple]

Sure, let's help eachother then.

Aye?

[pallid dust]

No

[thorny steeple]

Very well. 100$ for you, incase you change your mind in near future.

[pallid dust]

I will think about this

[bold seal]

Is there a discord bot that has like points system? Example: a specific role can give people points and people can check how many points they have with a certain command

Its more like an xp system

[thorny steeple]

Pay me 50$, I will tell you.

[bold seal]

No thanks i already got the answer from chatgpt

[rapid tusk]

ask the owner of this server idk

to get pic perms u need to talk on here

[void lichen]

This is interesting

[prisma cipher]

Why you say it.

[bold seal]

The what?

Be more specific please

[dim fiber]

I think he means to ask why you asked it if you were going to ask gpt anyway

[bold seal]

I was asking when I didn’t have the answer. Simple.

[prisma cipher]

For me, using chatgpt to find information like that, is like hammering a nail with a microscope.

[bold seal]

Why?

[thorny steeple]

Who want to be serious with me

[prisma cipher]

Today you use such a tool, tomorrow you wonder why humanity has degenerated. They cannot search for even the simplest information on their own.

[thorny steeple]

Like dead serious

Girl is living her best dreams right now, so enjoy his life.

[prisma cipher]

Long story short you use chat gpt you are dump.

Soon they will create an AI tool that can to distinguish human speech by humming, and than people forgot how to speak. generation of degenerates.

Why speak if you can make a sound and ai understand it and send a message

when I see how they start using AI, I get really scared, and not because AI will take over us

[thorny steeple]

AI is dumb

If u pay attention closely

[prisma cipher]

The saddest thing is that this has already happened and it’s too late.

[feral river]

I don’t think I’m qualified to help you cuz I only got band 6😂

[pallid dust]

How abou speaking?

[ornate flint]

easy, but you got to practice a lot, i got only 6.5 in speaking because i didn't practiced enough

[pallid dust]

As I see your listening was high

[ornate flint]

i got 8 in listening

[feral river]

6

[ornate flint]

listening is the easiest part

[feral river]

Listening 5.5 speaking 6 reading 6.5 writing 6

[feral river]

Hardest for Chinese

[pallid dust]

Writing is the most difficult part

[ornate flint]

my native language is arabic, but i used to listen a lot

[ornate flint]

it's not difficult but you have to practice developing ideas and writing fast

i only wrote like 3 essay's before my exam, and that was wrong

[pallid dust]

Its advice on how to improve listening

[ornate flint]

yeah, u can try listening to podcasts, they help alot to be honest

[feral river]

my best way for learning english is playing games watching videos and debate with some stupid son of b.

[frank furnace]

Hope you learned your lesson not to argue with delusional NPCs who are fed with talking points.

Incest is a fair point to show if they are consistent with their worldview. It's between consenting adults, and isn't necessarily heterosexual incest. There are atheists who agree and are consistent actually, although they are few, we need to applaud them.

[thorny steeple]

Ewwwwwwww

[frank furnace]

*applauds for their intellectual consistency, not for their pro-incest take

Same arguments used to defend vanilla homosexuality can be used to defend homosexual incest with ease,

• natural cause animals do them cuh
• consenting adults
• do whatever that doesn't harm others (utilitarianism)
• it's all fun and pleasure maxxing
  ...etc.,

Any atheists have a single argument against homosexual incest lmk

[cedar oar]

Sure, but I'll still be against the ways of the CCP

[grave temple]

Well thats your personal opinion

You live in a free state where free speech is accepted and its perfectly fine

[cedar oar]

Personal opinion of what, the CCP? I believe it is perfectly apparent of what I think of the CCP

[cedar oar]

Indeed it is

[thorny steeple]

X

[glad patio]

The situation in Palestine

[thorny steeple]

I want to talk about this situation

But I'm pretty sure they will ban me, or maybe cut my microphone

[glad patio]

I don't think so, especially in this chat

that's what it was made for

[thorny steeple]

You will be the first person who might report me...

[glad patio]

Why would I? I want to talk about it too

[feral river]

btw I have no idea about CCP, I just think some of CCP's policies are actually working properly and it was amazing.

something like assimilation, immigration policies, and political structures.

[thorny steeple]

You want to talk

Let's talk

[glad patio]

I don't have many opinions in it but I like seeing people talking about it ofc

[feral river]

it's the most advance and efficient political entity in the world, in my opinion, they do other countries can't do, it worked and they take a poor country to the second most powerful country.

ofc it has prices like you said freedom of speeches, suppressing minorities, cheap labor etc. no any country rise without costs, what about the British ? slavary, colonizes, Soviets ? annexation, USA ? interventionism.

I don't really care the measure they do that becoming a superpower, but I really care who is the superpower, I rather study and admire a strong not a loser, even I have some personal opinion about adolf, Hirohito, studying something to be a loser is stupid.

today's main stream idea is still based on global power, what the USA promotes, freedom, democracy, human rights, and more even in their history when they are not a superpower they don't give any f to those stuff.

then why would I give a f to those stuff ? I rather have my freedom of eating and survival of the fittest not be a minion of the US, that's the true freedom.

[void lichen]

China >>

[obtuse perch]

bro conversion Therapy refers to a set of practices aimed at attempting to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. These practices may include psychological therapy, sex therapy, hormone therapy, and other methods that could contribute to altering an individual's sexual orientation or gender identity. and i am completely against it
The treatment that I talked about is psychological treatment only, without the introduction of medications, hormone injections, changing gander
the APA President himsels say "that Homosexuals can Change" he is the same one who led the process of removing homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses but after 40yrs admit that homosexuality can be treated
here is the article if you want to know more
https://thenewamerican.com/us/culture/former-apa-president-says-homosexuals-can-change/

But why the media doesn't want people to know? weird fr but i think also have the answer

[manic juniper]

Because most people don't think it's an illness that needs to be changed, it's just the opinion of a fringe group

[obtuse perch]

no need to read all his if you only looking for source
I||n fact, you do not need sources to prove this because I saw it with my own eyes
As an Internet user, I also follow people on social media. There were three of the channels that I follow the most on YouTube, but the owners of this channels suddenly no longer published anything for seven months. It turned out that two of thses youtubers committed suicide. They were not sharing this in the videos. They were not announcing that they were sick with depression, they were afraid or embarrassed about that. After the investigation, it became clear that they were undergoing psychological treatment, but suddenly they began to feel that this treatment was not benefiting them, so they decided to stop taking the medication and go to the psychiatrist. This was the biggest mistake they made, as psychological treatment does not have direct effects, but rather takes time a long time and many sessions, they thought that this medicine was not helping them, so they stopped using it. Then what happened happened. I wanted to share their channels with you, but their families deleted them, unfortunately. As for the third YouTuber, he is Moroccan. He stopped posting videos for about two months. This was strange, but after that he came up with a shocking video. he talked about how he tried to commit suicide by taking excessive doses of the medicine, but fortunately he was saved, and in the video he explains exactly what happened to him and that the main reason was to stop using the medicine. If you would like me to share the video with you, but it is in the arabic , you can use the translation of YouTube, but it's not entirely accurate||
but if you dont trust here his some sources
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19758520/
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/25218-antidepressant-discontinuation-syndrome
Just search for the side effects of stopping psychotherapy and you will find things that may be better than my sources

[manic juniper]

"I saw it with my own eyes" 🤣

Peak comedy

[manic juniper]

I asked for a source about most of them stopping their treatments, this isn't what I asked for. It's a generic article

[obtuse perch]

But it turns out that it is something that can be treated, so why not treat it and make them normal people in society, unlike what is happening with them today

[manic juniper]

Plus a YouTuber? Seriously?

[manic juniper]

If you start by thinking it's not normal, can I say the same about any person I think isn't normal?

[obtuse perch]

my eng is not that good

[obtuse perch]

This is just an example id saw Isn't the YouTuber a human?

[manic juniper]

Science doesn't work with anecdotes

[obtuse perch]

ofc no normal or not normal when a being does something outside of its nature, this is not normal

[prisma cipher]

A transvestite will carry the Olympic flame through the streets of Paris on the opening day of the Summer Olympics, - France 24

[manic juniper]

But you already demonstrated that what you consider part of nature or not is subjective

[prisma cipher]

you did something outstanding and received such an honor? or you could be a transvestite

[obtuse perch]

I told you these are just things I saw and wanted to share with you, and they match exactly what the sources says isn't it?

[manic juniper]

Your sources don't say that lol you even confirmed it earlier, they aren't what I asked for

[obtuse perch]

I said that homosexuality is necessary for some animals, meaning that it is natural for them, but I did not say that homosexuality is natural for humans

[manic juniper]

Keyword "I said"=your opinion

This isn't the first time you say "I think" "I said" if you're not even sure of it then don't talk

[obtuse perch]

If you read what I said, I said in brief:
Homosexuality is a mental illness, and stopping treatment may lead to complications, and my sources prove that

[manic juniper]

They don't prove anything, one guy that claims a thing isn't proving anything

There are scientists that think birds evolved from drepanosaurs, no one takes them seriously

[frank furnace]

A couple has been arguing for days. Has anyone cared to ask if they agreed on a single thing? This is not OKAY.

I'm losing faith in humanity 💔

[dapper laurel]

Hello

[cedar oar]

You definitely do have an idea about the CCP. It's the political party that rules your country

[dapper laurel]

Lol

[cedar oar]

I don't like them in the slightest

[cedar oar]

Hear ye hear ye, the most advanced political party

[frank furnace]

What's funny 🤔

[dapper laurel]

My life

[frank furnace]

OKAY

[cedar oar]

I think he meant opinion, but I still will make a whole deal about it

[cedar oar]

The giant circus that politicians and their chambers are

[frank furnace]

funny honey gas ⛽

[obtuse perch]

The term "I think" means i believe that there is no absolute truth, and it is very difficult for the human mind to find absolute truth for me everything is subject to criticism and debate so I don't say the scientist said or the following source says... simply because I don't consider sources themselves absolute truth but at any moment someone can convince me of their point of view they just have to provide strong evidence to support their argument. the term "i think" to me doesn't mean I'm saying things on my own but it means that the things I believe in and the ideas I hold are subject to change just convince me of your point of view and give me evidence to prove that I am wrong, and I will thank you because you helped me develop myself and abandon ideas that are less plausible than yours.
I think that this is the goal of discussion: to recognize and analyze the opinions and ideas of others, and if they are contrary to your ideas and more convincing, then your ideas are simply wrong and you must change them.
the one who speaks while he is 100% confident in what he says is a person with whom it is not appropriate to discuss. He is not at all willing to change his convictions even if it is proven that his ideas are wrong and that there are more perfect and practical ideas.
and this is consistent with what is in the Quran
"The eyes are not blind, but it is the hearts that become blind."
there are people who, even if they see the truth before their eyes, will not turn it around and will give ridiculous justifications for it

[dapper laurel]

Politics is a too complex system for us human beings, we must return to anarchy

[frank furnace]

I'm happy that anyone can be a great debater with Chatgpt

[cedar oar]

No, no, it's not complex at all. To put it simply, populists get elected every time, and drag down our countries through mud

[dapper laurel]

Why do we always have to create arguments here? In the end we are all human beings, peace and love guys

[cedar oar]

Wellckp ackhually, you don't belong to the superior Aryan race, so I propose we exclude you from life

[dapper laurel]

What?

[manic juniper]

Only one here truly belongs to the Caucasian race

[dapper laurel]

I'm not understanding

[cedar oar]

I was mocking far-right racists

[obtuse perch]

I didn't claim I didn't say anything but the sources who saidbut if you dont trust here his some sources
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19758520/
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/25218-antidepressant-discontinuation-syndrome

[frank furnace]

Yeah!

When the arguments hit diminishing returns, the parties don't value time much. They're just talking past each other.

[manic juniper]

Boring

[cedar oar]

Th- the lizard biologist said boring to a scientific article?!1?

[obtuse perch]

im happy that you think i am using ai i think it proves that I know how to argue

[manic juniper]

It's boring because it's the second time I see that out of context

[dapper laurel]

You were making fun of my uncle then 🤣🤣

[manic juniper]

But I think scientific articles are generally boring, especially if it's medicine or psychology

[frank furnace]

Sure man, I don't have a problem. It's quick and saves time.

While the other person is scrambling to address your arguments and wasting time

[cedar oar]

I think the picture that comes with the link has gotten mundane. Please change it, people love to link that article as a source for some reason

[frank furnace]

You're a smart fellow 😉 @obtuse perch

[cedar oar]

Let's not speak further of this. Anyway, now what?

[manic juniper]

That's why biology articles are more entertaining, the picture is a cross-section or a live pic

[dapper laurel]

What

However I found the video of the Finnish person trying to speak English

[cedar oar]

I suppose my message wasn't clear enough. I was basically telling you, and myself to change the topic to something that doesn't include mocking others

[manic juniper]

Is it the one about gay marriage?

[obtuse perch]

i feel i lil bit sad because of that you think i'm using ai but yeah buddy
but dw I understand you you think everyone is lazy like you
does chatgpt give sources?

[cedar oar]

You must've learned biology just for the pictures. Props to you. But actually, I think it's something else. The lizard gods probably must've sent you a message to become their first prophet and establish a new religion

[obtuse perch]

what is your evidence

[dapper laurel]

Nothing is clear enough to me, my brain does not work anymore, anyway, I got it

[manic juniper]

No, that's the second reason. I did it for the cute animals, I think that's the case for everyone

[dapper laurel]

Nah, it's a sh!tpost

[frank furnace]

Why do you think it's a problem? I didn't say it is good or bad. A lot of people are using AI, showing how smart they are.

PS: why did you guys stop, continue LMAO @obtuse perch @manic juniper

[dapper laurel]

I've watched it at least 100 times

[cedar oar]

If thy mind does not suffice enough to grasp the purport of a message, thou shalt try the common procedures for the problem.

[manic juniper]

Is it the one of the Twitch streamer dressed like a femboy?

[dapper laurel]

Eww, no, can I send it?

[manic juniper]

There is a funny hypothesis about Germanic languages in linguistic

[manic juniper]

Yes

[cedar oar]

What do you mean by "that's the second reason"? Cute animals? I see you have passion for biology

[frank furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/divorce-divorce-papers-signed-fart-farting-gif-23711175

[dapper laurel]

This video is absolute brainrot

[manic juniper]

Some linguists think that the German languages are a pidgin languages are just broken Indo-European created by Finnic speakers

[manic juniper]

It's accurate but why can he pronounce W, we don't have that

Must be a Finland Swede smh

https://tenor.com/view/perkele-gif-7723390

[obtuse perch]

You are speaking in a form that "I am sure you are using ai" without any prove why you didnt say i think tou are using ai , and I do not depend on aa in my studies and in my daily life. I still want my mind to get tired and work a little.

[frank furnace]

Okay I retract my word. Can you please continue with the debate?

Sorry that I came along and sounded the alarm, then y'all paused ⏸️
My bad

Did anyone win the debate?

[balmy matrix]

i won

[frank furnace]

Cause it has been literally a week now 💯

[dapper laurel]

However, something really bad happened today at school

[obtuse perch]

She did not answer what I said, perhaps there is no answer, or perhaps she found that what I said was logical, or perhaps she began to doubt her own ideas, or perhaps she is like others who think they are always right, or perhaps because I am slow in responding, and perhaps she thinks that I am using ai...etc. I don't and I can't know my friend.

[dapper laurel]

Maybe

[cedar oar]

Go ahead, tell us all about the unfortunate event which has befallen upon this day

[frank furnace]

I'm sorry to hear that. It sucks.

Maybe if y'all debate a little bit longer, miracles can happen. There can be agreements. Listen, don't lose hope!

Perhaps that means you have to debate till the heat death of the universe

Are you ready to go all in??

[dapper laurel]

Today we had to have a minute of silence for a boy who lost his life in our school, but my idiot classmates started making noises and opened clash royal

[cedar oar]

How foolish are people to still play that game?

[dry karma]

Hii

I have a question

[obtuse perch]

maybe she is busy
Maybe she will answer when available
No problem, my friend. don't blame yourself. You didn't do anything wrong, but don't speak i without being sure. this is rude tbh. and its totally fine dw

[frank furnace]

What's your argument? I missed it probably

[dapper laurel]

After this I was sad all day, how can you (my classmates) be so disrespectful?

[obtuse perch]

tf are talking about

[balmy matrix]

which is better , banana or watermelon

[obtuse perch]

watermelon for me

[frank furnace]

Read again. I'm saying don't give up. You can still win.

[balmy matrix]

same , that's how i won it 💪🏻

[cedar oar]

I thought you were referring to me for a second. Though to be honest, your classmates are probably much better than mine, so at least there's that

[frank furnace]

I'm sorry..sorry. Please continue with the debate.

[frank furnace]

💪😎👍💯

[dapper laurel]

They were very disrespectful, the boy lost his life at school for a very bad reason

[cedar oar]

I do not wish to know the reason at the current time. Though disrespectful they were indeed

[obtuse perch]

win what? Debate, for me, is not a loss or a win, but rather it is about changing the wrong ideas in a person’s head about why a person is more effective.
give me your idea and ill give you mine and we gonna see wich idea is more ligical and correct
if you canvice me ill be thankful and ill chnage the my idea too be better

[dapper laurel]

But what was the debate?

[manic juniper]

Did they ever try to throw a guy out of the window?

[frank furnace]

What wrong ideas have you changed so far?

[manic juniper]

A bunch of nonsense

[dapper laurel]

🫥

[cedar oar]

I believe it was started by somebody denouncing homosexuality

[manic juniper]

My classmates did

[obtuse perch]

huh? how do i can continue the debate when there is no response to what I said?

[dapper laurel]

Did they succeed?

[manic juniper]

They were interrupted by my professor, he just came back from the bathroom

[frank furnace]

@manic juniper don't run.

Finish the freaking debate.

[cedar oar]

Why must you have had the urge to ask what happened?

[manic juniper]

No, they ended up dropping him to the ground

[manic juniper]

They lifted this guy and he initially was having fun because he didn't get what their intentions were

[dapper laurel]

But what did the boy do to deserve this?

[cedar oar]

Isfrun VII of Lizard 'The Coward'

[manic juniper]

Nothing, just being unlucky

[manic juniper]

Isfrun XVII the Bored

I'd rather be the Bored than the Repetitive

[obtuse perch]

Is homosexuality a natural thing in humans, and should we accept and support homosexuals or help them?
the first question is alrd done but the 2nd no

[cedar oar]

I didn't realize that you were talking about your class until a bit before you sent this message

[dapper laurel]

I think homosexuality can be accepted

[dim fiber]

i was gonna join the conversation but this seems too controversial to be a part of

[dapper laurel]

We should accept homosexuality

[cedar oar]

Isfrun XVII 'Protector of Science', 'Wrath of all Lizards'

[obtuse perch]

and here we go again

[manic juniper]

They made me ambassador through an unilateral vote

[cedar oar]

Most here do, though I'm not sure about the other guy

[dapper laurel]

What's wrong?

[dapper laurel]

And I would really like to understand why

[cedar oar]

It must feel quite great to be a Finnish ambassador denouncing Russia every 5 days on Twitter

[dapper laurel]

@obtuse perch Please spend your precious time explaining your way of seeing things to me

[cedar oar]

I'm pretty sure he started the debate

[manic juniper]

No, just the human ambassador of the reptiles, they have a rodent one too in southeast Asia

[frank furnace]

Sorry man @manic juniper blocked you. Their escape hatch.

Find someone else.

[cedar oar]

It must feel quite great to be the ambassador of the superior Aryan species and denounce humans every 5 days

[dapper laurel]

We wuz aryan n shiett

[cedar oar]

Brb

[dapper laurel]

(not serious)

[frank furnace]

Yeah !!! 😌

[dapper laurel]

But the boy will have to be quick, I have to revise for my English test

[cedar oar]

Back

[frank furnace]

Might be because he is using sophisticated systems

[cedar oar]

Time to translate this

[manic juniper]

Aryan means slave in Finnish

[dapper laurel]

It's simple to understand

[manic juniper]

Orja=slave
Orja used to mean Aryan

[cedar oar]

The superior Suomenusko species then

[manic juniper]

So much for the superior race if some reindeer herders used to call them slaves

[cedar oar]

I thought it was German

[dapper laurel]

But why this? There were particular dominations or wars to obtain this meaning?

[manic juniper]

Maybe, but our written history only starts around the year 1100, when we lost our freedom

[cedar oar]

The Russians, Swedes, and every other entity that occupied the Finnish territories?

[cedar oar]

Reminds me a lot of this obscure country in the middle of nowhere, called "Armenia"

[dapper laurel]

I usually speak German when I don't want to be understood, but this is not the case

[manic juniper]

Swedes are called Russians and Russians are just Slavs

It makes sense if you go back in time and realise why the Swedes took that name from us

[cedar oar]

Well, too bad Mr. Moderator will use a translator to find out what secrets you said in your German text. The case it may not be, but I truly have no idea of what it's saying, other than maybe a few words

[manic juniper]

The same Swedes that created Kyivan Rus' are the first Swedes we met, and Russia took its name from Rus'

[cedar oar]

Took what name from you?

[manic juniper]

Ruotsalaiset

Sweden is Ruotsi

[dapper laurel]

Then I'll start einen Blitzkrieg on the moderators phone

[manic juniper]

It sounds more similar to Russia because the name comes from the Rus' people

[cedar oar]

It was all an elaborate plan from the very beginning to subjugate the Finnish tribes there

[manic juniper]

Did Armenia start writing so late as well?

[obtuse perch]

@dapper laurel homosexuality is a disease that can be treated you can read what I said previously
For me, the most reasonable opinion is that we help people who have homosexual tendencies to become normal people, and as we see today, homosexuals are exposed to bullying and violence... and the most society does not accept them. We should also not forget the diseases that are common among homosexuals, whether psychological or physical, and also the people who regret their decisio to be gay and they wish there were people to stop them, even by force + Homosexuality is not something in human nature, so it goes against how he was created and goes against his nature

[manic juniper]

What did Armenians do the many centuries before that time? If I'm not mistaken they're one of the few people whose current name is still the same as the one that was being used in the past

[manic juniper]

Created? Lol

Humans weren't created

[dapper laurel]

You must be a troll, it's the only answer

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately he isn't

[cedar oar]

Armenia started writing earlier, I believe. It unfortunately got the Poland treatment throughout history though

[obtuse perch]

block= run=you dont have an answer=you indirectly admit that you are wrong

[frank furnace]

That's not an argument smhh

Another escape hatch?

[cedar oar]

They did what any other ancient kingdom was doing

[manic juniper]

So... The same thing as us which is... I have no idea

[dapper laurel]

There would be a counter-answer, but I'm too tired

[onyx hazel]

Being gay isn't a choice. Sexuality isn't something you can chose like you're choosing your character in games

[cedar oar]

The Poland treatment, as I call it.

[manic juniper]

I think he knows that, but he's still advocating for a cure lol

[dapper laurel]

In fact, now I will start writing an essay to respond to the thesis of @obtuse perch

[obtuse perch]

No matter how you think we came to this life, homosexuality is not a natural thing for humans

[frank furnace]

This sounds like trolling?

[manic juniper]

Yeah sure, coming from a creationist it must be true

[cedar oar]

Well, Genesis proves you wrong. Take that, scientists!

[obtuse perch]

if im trolling it would be easy to show me im wrong right?

[manic juniper]

Yes, ENOMÖL's space duck created us

[cedar oar]

Heresy! We were created by onniscent lizards. I don't know who or what enomol is

[obtuse perch]

give me a prove that being gay isn't a choice
yeah sexuality isn't something you can chose like you're choosing your character in games because you born a boy or a gurl thats it

[onyx hazel]

Define natural, pls

[cedar oar]

So that's who Enomol is

[frank furnace]

@lavish moon come beat me

[manic juniper]

I think you're deaf to criticism, I already said it multiple times so I eventually got tired of it. But I honestly don't think you know what a scientific article looks like, or can distinguish them from a newspaper article, or a single statement from an ex president of an association. Plain and simple

[onyx hazel]

You don't know the differences between sexuality and gender apparently

[cedar oar]

Is Enomol some duck who is treated as a god in Uralic culture?

[manic juniper]

After a while it gets boring because one has to repeat the same thing over and over, or it feels like arguing with someone that can't keep up or has good faith

[obtuse perch]

islamophobic or not idc if they wanna talk about islam i can too

[manic juniper]

No, ENOMÖL is the Entity that created the duck, the duck was tasked with creating the universe and keep an eye on it

[frank furnace]

I know you're a strong individual 💪

[lavish moon]

I'm not in mood to fight

[cedar oar]

They got really creative with the genesis of humanity, didn't they? This level of creativity puts Greek mythology to shame

[obtuse perch]

there is a creator makes more sense to me than an impossible chain of coincidences

[frank furnace]

Real men are not tired 😫

[manic juniper]

Idc if there is a creator or not, humans weren't created for sure lol

The space duck is the creator

[onyx hazel]

Listen, not everyone in this world know 100% who they are, we find out a lot of things about ourselves, so when a person finds out their sexuality, they're just learning more about themselves

[manic juniper]

The world/universe is supposed to be the space duck's egg

[cedar oar]

Also, where are these pictures from? The duck is drawn fabulously

[manic juniper]

I think it's random Finnish, Swedish or Russian artists that did these pieces

[cedar oar]

This puts even Egyptian mthology to shame. Ben Ben is nothing compared to this

[manic juniper]

The one represented there isn't the duck from ENOMÖL's myth, but the diver myth is present in native American religions too, it's quite common

[obtuse perch]

It is natural, for example, for a child to be born like this, and there are genes responsible for that, or for it to be necessary for him to perform a certain behavior in order to survive.

[manic juniper]

And the signature myth of Uralic people

[lavish moon]

OK gloves or no gloves

[manic juniper]

So it isn't natural to use Discord, since children aren't born with the need to use Discord

[cedar oar]

Well, if you ever find the source of the sacred piece of art that the duck is illustrated in, tell me

[manic juniper]

Shouldn't take long, I'll try rn

[frank furnace]

Bare hand bruh

Pull up!!

[lavish moon]

Fk yeah

Get prepared to get my fist out of ur skull 💀

[cedar oar]

Humans consuming artificially created blue light on screens put close to their eyes is quite unnatural to be honest

#Abolishbluelight

[onyx hazel]

Boy and girl are genders, gay is sexuality. These are different things

[cedar oar]

We must spread the message of the blue light filters

[dapper laurel]

Let's start with the assumption that you are only speaking from personal experience, homosexuals are not discriminated against in most civilized countries. Furthermore, this vision that you are exposing is heavily influenced by your religious beliefs, you have probably never spoken to a homosexual, you don't know them, you only have a stereotyped image in your mind of homosexuals. Do you think they are mentally ill? I don't think it's a coherent thought after all. I assume you are a religious person, but isn't it a duty of religious people (at least in Christianity as far as I know) to accept everyone? What does your faith say about this, shouldn't they be accepted? At this moment you are denying the real existence of homosexuality, you only think that it is a mental illness, but in reality this trait occurs in all forms of life equipped with a complex intelligence. So why say this? Furthermore, homosexuality has always existed throughout history and has never led to any harm. Furthermore, I think you are also a coward, because if you found yourself in front of a homosexual you wouldn't say things like that if you have a minimum of sensitivity. Trying to apply useless measures, like trying to cure gays, is not useful to society, there would only be more problems, society would be unstable, there would be more taxes to pay for maintenance of certain infrastructure.

[frank furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-fight-freeza-dbz-attack-gif-9038397

[frank furnace]

Imagine if everybody used Chatgpt.

💀

[manic juniper]

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jumo_den_Jyn_04.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
Some Russian did it

[dapper laurel]

You can check my text on internet, it's not ChatGPT

Why do you have so little faith in mankind?

[manic juniper]

They are Kugu Jumo and Kijamat, the earth-diver myth often features two birds (one good, one evil)

[cedar oar]

Of course some Russian did it. That must mean that the Rus are a part of the Uralic Resistance Movement against the tyrannical lizards

I should write some lore one day about this whole combined universe of gods and prophets everywhere

[manic juniper]

Some Russians are nerds about their own minorities

I can understand them because I'm also interested in Sámi culture

[frank furnace]

Nothing wrong, chill
I think everyone should be using it as it levels the ground
As in a fully egalitarian society

AI will solve the intelligence disparity

[obtuse perch]

The one who said that was the same one who removed homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses, and that was after 40 years. That is, after forty years, his human conscience was awakened and he decided to tell the truth to the people, and that 20% of those who were receiving treatment had already been treated. If you choose to be stupid, it is not my problem. My question is, is it proven that homosexuality is not a mental illness before removing homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses?

[cedar oar]

Ah, yes, the Far-Eastern, Southern Part of the Yolga river, Mixed Chinese (Manchu dialect) with Ukrainian speaking people called the Ostropharis

[manic juniper]

You said that the scientists did that, now you proceed to say ONE psychologist did... Interesting

[dapper laurel]

I don't need it, I find it rather degrading to be replaced by an AI in these cases

[cedar oar]

In which part does this Sami culture lie in Scandinivia?

[obtuse perch]

The only sexual activity that I know that nature created us for is between a man and a woman

[frank furnace]

Then you're a patriarchist

[manic juniper]

Northern Fennoscandia and Kola peninsula in Russia

[manic juniper]

Nature isn't an entity that creates animals, that's absurd

[cedar oar]

I'm afraid I don't recognize these places. Perhaps you could loosely point it out?

[dapper laurel]

Maybe it could be, who knows 👽

[manic juniper]

Northern Finland, northern Norway, northern Sweden, the peninsula in northwestern Russia with the borehole

[obtuse perch]

we alrd talked abt that yesterday car glasses remember?
if you dont ill remind you In short,
the things created by humans, humans are the ones who control its laws

[cedar oar]

Finnmark, the Paradox games make me recall

[dapper laurel]

Do you play Hoi4?

[cedar oar]

I believe it's close to Finnmark actually

[obtuse perch]

nature created us to look for the ohter gander anything against this its against the nature

[cedar oar]

I used to, but don't anymore, because the game turned my laptop into an egg fryer. Also, I'm trying to quit gaming, and my 200+ hours on EU4, or the ones on CK2, or literally any other game are not helping

[dapper laurel]

This afternoon, on the other hand, I conquered the world with Germany

[cedar oar]

That is an easy task in HOI4, as Germany gets a copious amounts of buffs, because the AI is too stupid to play intelligently

I now wish to forget gaming, as I'm trying to quit it, and surprisingly, any mention of it does not help my endeavour

[dapper laurel]

You're young, enjoy some fun

[manic juniper]

It is Finnmark, it's named after them

Finnar is a pejorative that referred to them and Finns

[manic juniper]

That's stupid, then you also think sexualities like furrysexual are valid?

https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Apegender
Just say that you support this

[obtuse perch]

1rst of all its not "personal experience" it is research
2nd even in civilized countries, they are exposed to bad things, but to a lesser extent, because there are laws that protect them. However, they are exposed to racism bully..ect Also, the gay man decided to go outside his country, as his destinations are limited because the most countries in the world are conservative countries and do not accept these behaviors. and you can imagine the things they might be exposed to
3rd I did not mention religion at any point when talking about homosexuals. I am talking to you an atheist.
4th I talked to a lot of gay people, some of them blocked me, some of them did not accept what I said. We no longer talk, some of them are on my friends list, and we still talk till this day yes, they are truly wonderful people, but I feel pity for them and want to help them, and this not bothers them , we even play valorant together and we also discuss this topic.
4thYou said that homosexuality has been around since ancient times, and this is true. Now, do you want to know how they punished the homosexual in that time?
5th my religion position in this: I accept every person who is his nature (You are the one who mentions religion now, not me)
6thJustifying actions by saying it was in the past is ridiculous. murdering was also in the past. So, if I killed someone, would that be my justification?
7th 20% of the people who were receiving treatment have already been treated. did you even read what I mentioned to you?
8th You did not criticize any of the words I said, you are just now criticizing my personality and thinking without giving evidence come on you are better than that

[obtuse perch]

the scientists did that but only one but only one person said that, and he is the old president of APA after 40 yrs

[manic juniper]

You changed your affirmation once more, now what am I supposed to believe?

[obtuse perch]

I ignored you when you said that it is not necessary to have a creator and that the space duck is the creator, but now I ask you to explain your point of view to me
Do you think there is a creator?
Or did we come from space (nature)

[manic juniper]

I already stated that (in my opinion) the space duck is the creator

[obtuse perch]

Did we create animals? LMAO

[manic juniper]

Yes, I guess you aren't familiar with dogs, housecats, cows, domestic pigeons, domestic hamsters, lab rats

[plush shoal]

I am seeking support from individuals located in the US, UK, Argentina, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Australia, and New Zealand.
This task will take approximately 20 minutes, and I am willing to pay $30 for it.
This is not a technical task.
If our collaboration proves successful, I can offer additional work opportunities that could provide a stable monthly income.

[dapper laurel]

Brother, maybe they can be discriminated against primarily because they are a minority, nom because they are homosexuals, that would be the point. Furthermore, in many ancient societies, as I have explained to you, homosexuality was tolerated, just take the Roman-Hellenic society as an example.Saying that homosexuals must be helped is in itself a ridiculous statement, in fact an efficient society would tolerate them, without making unnecessary fuss. Then the example you gave: "killing also happened in the past" or something like that, is not very fitting, you can't compare homosexuality to a crime. Plus I mentioned religion because I bet you are a religious person, and so I wanted to make you think about the values ​​of religion itself. Last of all, could you mention the research you were alluding to?

[obtuse perch]

I didn't change anything. I just explained to you what happened. If you don't understand, do you think that the only one who works in APA is the president???? and ofc not all of them can talk if one talks thats enough

[manic juniper]

Why does this guy reply two or three messages late

If Internet Explorer was a person

[dapper laurel]

Maybe it's the time zone

🤣

[manic juniper]

So I'm the problem, I'm messaging from the future

[dapper laurel]

Or is he the one messaging from the past?

[manic juniper]

If you're reading this, you will die in a hour. Avoid the yellow light if you want to stay alive

[obtuse perch]

did we create "dogs, housecats, cows, domestic pigeons, domestic hamsters, lab rats" NO im talking about the things Which did not exist and we created it, such as the Internet, for example. Is it nature that will set the laws for using the Internet? or humans?

[obtuse perch]

.

[manic juniper]

Lol as if housecats, dogs and others existed in nature

Do you believe that there was an hairless cat in the wild?

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-gif-18888188

[obtuse perch]

ok the duck space is the creator any prove pls?

[manic juniper]

My ancestors said this, that's the proof

Guns don't exist in nature, so (according to you) I can make laws on how to use my Glock 19X

[balmy matrix]

duck space

why not cat space bro

[vague kettle]

It's dog space though

[onyx hazel]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's not sexual activity dude, you're talking about biological genders here. Please, go study the differences

[frank furnace]

Ayoo

[prisma cipher]

Yes, this is the result of human selection

[frank furnace]

Biological genders are a spectrum though

1960: Sex and Gender means the same, and there are two.
2000: Sex is two, gender is a spectrum.
2024: Sex, and gender are a spectrum

Get updated oldies
😎

[onyx hazel]

?

[balmy matrix]

blud really said " ? "

[shut iris]

¿

[manic juniper]

⸮

[gaunt bronze]

What the-

[violet peak]

I identify as hollow/purple

[frank furnace]

Ikik jaw dropping
I'm just following the science 💅✨

[gaunt bronze]

The definitions have changed

Ok how do I explain this without being called homophobic

[frank furnace]

Yep !!

[gaunt bronze]

In science they obviously have different definitions

But on something as constructive as gender, do you not think that "following the science" is leaning on scientism? idk

I will use the correct usage of gender when necessary, but to me (and to many other ppl) it is still synonymous with the other word

[frank furnace]

Well if you believe it stops at two, then that is narrow mindedness and bigotry

[gaunt bronze]

This topic is one of the few that i agree

I have a very narrow mind in

But regardless you should respect everyone no matter who they are

[gaunt bronze]

Basically, Ill use the definitions correctly; however, i disagree with them

I feel like bc of how sensitive this topic is it's hard to express any form of negation or disagreement without being called homphobic 😭 (any form of opposition or questioning of this movement)

[frank furnace]

This is so sad. Literally means being stuck in the 1960s, and following the science and norms of that time.

[gaunt bronze]

I believe open dialogue is important for something like this and ppl who may be opposed to this or policy implementations bc off this movement (not homophobic per se), should be important

[frank furnace]

The fact is that science evolves through rigorous research and new data.

[gaunt bronze]

that's true

[frank furnace]

ok

[gaunt bronze]

Consider other movements

E.g. Black Lives Matter, Pro-Palestinian/Israeli, etc.

There are critics and ppl who may disagree with parts of these movements, or like if they want open dialogue, it's much easier

Than say questioning the LGBTQ+ movement

In school we were discussing important civic issues and it was stated multiple times that "oh you can have whatever political view"

[frank furnace]

What's your position currently, victorian monarchism?

[gaunt bronze]

Im trying to be serious yk

You're epitomising what Im basically saying. Trying to have open, peaceful dialogue (im rlly not trying to be mean and im srry if i was),

[frank furnace]

yeah listening !!

[gaunt bronze]

Rather than saying dumb things

[gaunt bronze]

But for the LGBTQ+ it wasn't quite so; you had to accept it and whatever policies that came through it

Whereas we analysed other movements: blm, israel-hamas, etc. and looked at them thoroughly

[frank furnace]

I like this is so cool. The instructor wants the students to be flexible.

[gaunt bronze]

There was no such thing for the LGBTQ+ movement (even if it's scientifically supported, it's still a big social part that shakes the world whether for good or bad, and its bigger than either of those)

[gaunt bronze]

Yes!! He did try, but on few things, like the LGBTQ+, we couldnt

Bc if you had any sort of opposition ("oh, maybe we should rethink this LGBTQ policy?") you'd get in trouble

Opposition (not hate) is important, and without this open dialogue, you aren't going to get as good policies

And ofc there's homophobic ppl who are completely opposed to it and that I think is wrong but for the many ppl who instead just think that "yk, some parts of this movement has its flaws" or "this policy is stupid and could be changed"

This dialogue doesn't exist in school and it is most unfortunate

But like im not a political scientist or anything this is just my opinion and experience from school atm

[frank furnace]

It seems like you have an issue with dogma, in this case, questioning diverse genders, and the policies enacted to protect their well being

[gaunt bronze]

exactly

indoctrinating dogmatism concerning LGBTQ+

[frank furnace]

Alr

[gaunt bronze]

regardless

the lgbtq+ area is one of the few that i'm pretty right on

Everything else im either centre or centre-left

[frank furnace]

Are you the person from Canada? Maybe we talked before

[gaunt bronze]

Yes!!

Ty for understanding that im not trying to be mean or anything

Just my views and you can be opposed to them ofc

[frank furnace]

What happened to Angela Merkel??

[gaunt bronze]

Had her for too long 😭

[frank furnace]

You think I'm gay?

[gaunt bronze]

idk

[frank furnace]

Yeah, I'm gay, and quite offended rn

[gaunt bronze]

I see

I am sorry if it offended you but that wasnt my intention

[frank furnace]

Jk bro

[gaunt bronze]

Bruhh 😭

[frank furnace]

I identify as a space alien cause I don't belong to this world 👽

What's up hate speech laws in Canada

Trudeau will monitor your talks online

[gaunt bronze]

Idk

they need to change the constitution

[frank furnace]

LoL

Trudeau is above the constitution

Be careful and don't talk bad about him cause I don't want to see you in prison

[gaunt bronze]

u can talk bad about him

ive literally seen f trudeau signs

And ive heard ppl say it too

[frank furnace]

I am concerned about your future

DONT

[gaunt bronze]

I already haveee

[frank furnace]

💀

[gaunt bronze]

He only won bc he appealed to young ppl and certain groups (lgbtq, Indigenous, some middle-aged, etc.) & he was the son of a fmr. prime minister

Actually his father was the one who repatriated the constitution from the uk and established the constitution act, 1982 & made the charter of rights and freedoms

[frank furnace]

There's no limit for winning. He's on a marathon. Looking like a dictator to me.

He's slowly catching up to Putin and Xi

[frank furnace]

Your pfp is his mom or what

[gaunt bronze]

😭 WHAT-

[frank furnace]

Who knows
Mom secretly hating on his son

She looks like Elizabeth II

[gaunt bronze]

It is!! 💃

[prisma cipher]

Is a dictator has a bad definition? because those leaders, who you consider dictators, I do not consider them bad.

[frank furnace]

Oh muh goshhh!
Trudeau must be seething.

Only he be the role model for you!!

[gaunt bronze]

Dictators are bad

They get things done much faster but they are in the end, bad

[frank furnace]

Good. They are good in what way?

[gaunt bronze]

Speed

[prisma cipher]

Good in being leader

[gaunt bronze]

queen elizabeth ii is but trudeau um what

[gaunt bronze]

A dictator isnt a leader they're a dictator

[prisma cipher]

So they aren't a dictator

[frank furnace]

As a man, look up to Trudeau

[gaunt bronze]

Who

[gaunt bronze]

As a girl, look up to elizabeth ii!!

[frank furnace]

She's dead so !!

[frank furnace]

Trudeau is a girl for some people rigghhtt

[gaunt bronze]

then look down

[frank furnace]

okie

[gaunt bronze]

Mhm..?

[dim ore]

yooooo

[frank furnace]

I mean, some folks on the conservative side genuinely think that, like an effeminate person

But the rules he makes are authoritarian big protective mother

[dim ore]

why we dissing eliziabeth ii

wa she do to you

naughty booger

[frank furnace]

She's apparently a role model for some people

[dim ore]

Yes she is

[gaunt bronze]

Wdym apparently 😭

[dim ore]

my role model to

i respect her

too*

[frank furnace]

why !!

cause she's so photogenic

[gaunt bronze]

her photogenicness is facts though

[dim ore]

whoes your role model?

are you eu governer?

[gaunt bronze]

Who knows

[frank furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-queen-queen-funny-humor-gif-8131186

[gaunt bronze]

i like queen elizabeth ii but there's not like any 1 person that i always look up to

[dim ore]

thats disrespectful

[dim ore]

ou eu ?

you*

[frank furnace]

sorry man discord recommended me this gif

🙌

[gaunt bronze]

Canada!!

[dim ore]

nah all cool 🙂

[dim ore]

how deeps the snow dude

[frank furnace]

Hate the system, not the player
Hate discord

[dim ore]

respect

https://tenor.com/view/no-joe-biden-pointing-smile-gif-15749139

[frank furnace]

Fail big L

Hate the system

[dim ore]

big j

[frank furnace]

How did you end up conservative?

[dim ore]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-with-eagle-joe-biden-walking-confidently-flying-eagle-walking-with-confidence-gif-18750703

this el on discored

[frank furnace]

biden my role model true

[dim ore]

nah dude trump

[frank furnace]

he's kind, compassionate, full of empathy

[wind gate]

my role model hit ler

[shut iris]

O Canada!

Our home and native land!

[wind gate]

same

[frank furnace]

I'm riding with biden

Yep !!

[dim ore]

el bidens like a chimpanzee trumps a lion

[dim ore]

hes not good

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-dancing-maga-trump-gif-18842875

we need this man

[frank furnace]

go off
u say this for the mustache loser

[wind gate]

he was compassionate tho

[wind gate]

the only reason too hate him is

[frank furnace]

no fed posting !!

[wind gate]

that he removed juices from country

[gaunt bronze]

I’m not conservative

I’m a centrist/central left

LGBTQ and furries/stuff like that is the only thing I can think of that I’m right-wing on

[frank furnace]

well the left would categorize u in that box bc of your deeply questioning attitute

with regards to diverse genders

[gaunt bronze]

They would if they only heard of my lgbtq opinion

Questioning is important regardless of where you fit in the spectrum

[gaunt bronze]

True patriot love!!

In all of us commands 🍁

[frank furnace]

remember there is no nuance in the political world, its pure tribalism

black and white scenario

[frank furnace]

not really
ur constitution suck tbh

[gaunt bronze]

You’re trolling me rn 😭

[gaunt bronze]

why does it suck?

[frank furnace]

contrast with the american one

[gaunt bronze]

not asking that, I’m asking y does it sick

[frank furnace]

2a for example, right to bear arms

[gaunt bronze]

Is a good constitution an American one and therefore ours doesn’t epitomise it it’s bad?

[shut iris]

With glowing hearts we see thee rise

[gaunt bronze]

So because it doesn’t have this it’s bad?

[shut iris]

The True North strong and free

[frank furnace]

no, it can easily fall under dictatorship imo

[gaunt bronze]

From far and wide

[shut iris]

From far and wide, O Canada we stand in guard for thee

[gaunt bronze]

💀 explain

[shut iris]

God keep our land, glorious and free

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee

[frank furnace]

u cant own guns in canada right, they are even banning knive LoL slippery slopes all around

[shut iris]

[gaunt bronze]

You can own guns and stuff but there’s restrictions (most countries around the world have gun restrictions too)

[frank furnace]

all dictatorships unarm the people before they do ridulous genocidal events

name me one who hasnt

[gaunt bronze]

You focus on this one point but how exactly would that make it susceptible to a dictatorship

[gaunt bronze]

before they do ridiculous genocidal events, that doesn’t mention how a dictatorship came to be

[onyx hazel]

Hate capitalism

[gaunt bronze]

I have to shower so I probably shouldn’t be debating rn

[frank furnace]

ur uisng a capitalist app

[gaunt bronze]

The us and Canadian constitution have a lot of parallels btw

[onyx hazel]

an app made by a worker

[gaunt bronze]

Where’s the French 💅🏻

[frank furnace]

i dont need to xplain, ask hitler, stalin, mao, etc.,

[thorny steeple]

based

[gaunt bronze]

Not explaining weakens ur argument

[frank furnace]

oh my goshhh so privileged

jkjk

[gaunt bronze]

And you didn’t get the point of it

[shut iris]

Ô Canada!
Terre de nos aïeux,
Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux!

Car ton bras sait porter l'épée,
Il sait porter la croix!

Ton histoire est une épopée
Des plus brillants exploits.

Et ta valeur, de foi trempée,
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

[gaunt bronze]

And the bilingual version 💅🏻💅🏻

[gaunt bronze]

Oops

[shut iris]

O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all of us command,

Car ton bras sait porter l'épée,
Il sait porter la croix!
Ton histoire est une épopée
Des plus brillants exploits,

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

[gaunt bronze]

It is better to shower than to debate 💃

• Anonymous

[frank furnace]

allah im doing ur hw
consequences for being stuck in the 1960s

As of May 1, 2020, the Canadian government has banned over 1,500 models of assault-style firearms, including the upper receivers of M16, AR-10, AR-15, and M4 patterns. In May 2022, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced new legislation that would ban the ownership of "military-style assault weapons" and restrict the sale, purchase, importation, or transfer of handguns

there is no 2a he can do whatever the sheet he wants

[frank furnace]

attack on free speech and fundamental liberties by a bad actor, then it leads to a dictatorship gadually

[gaunt bronze]

Those are restrictions which I said and i feel like the numbers kind of inflate them "1500 models of assault-style firearms" (yk, the ones that shoot a billion bullets)

[gaunt bronze]

Oh ofc, it's very sad. canada is lucky to be a sovereign of human rights and liberties

[frank furnace]

trudeau is emboldened cause he is phasing out arms slowly, at the same time he introducing hate speech laws to stop criticising him and his cabinet's agenda

you are all doomed LoL

all this is possible bc there is no specific constitutional protection for gun ownership or the right to bear arms in Canada

[gaunt bronze]

May I ask how "all this is possible bc there is no specific constitutional protection for gun ownership or the right to bear arms in Canada", how specifically would guns create this slippery slope phenemenon? it is not visible

[frank furnace]

Online Harms Bill C-63, which will give police the power to retroactively search the Internet for 'hate speech' violations and arrest offenders, even if the offence occurred before the law existed,"

fact check me on this !!

[gaunt bronze]

Hate speech laws existed long before trudeau & also you exemplify what a healthy democracy is,

that is,

For trudeau, the person who was one respected in 2015, to be greatly criticised and hated (and for government information to come out so fast) wouldn't happen in a dictatorship or a country turning into a dicatorship

let alone, when his opposition (who openly criticises him is and is more popular to the canadian public) is more likely to win the next election

[frank furnace]

would u be satisfied if Putin decides what hate speech? who decides this hate speech

[gaunt bronze]

where is that from btw

[frank furnace]

it's subjective and arbitrary

[shut iris]

Honestly I’m just waiting for the next election

At this point, I’m done with Trudeau

[gaunt bronze]

hate speech is subjective, but the criminal code i believe has definitions

in one case of antisemitism the supreme court also defined hate speech (i can find it for u if u want) when the man argued that it was his liberty to freely express themselves

Your hate for trudeau--the canadian public's hate for trudeau--epitomises what a good democracy is

The People are the ones who decide

[gaunt bronze]

before you talk about sujectivity and arbitrariness (we have the supreme court for laws like that, and ours is a judicial titan compared to the united states' ones, imo), where is ur source

[frank furnace]

okay u changed ur tone bc it seems ull go to prison
I'm noticing lmao !!

[gaunt bronze]

ok now you're trying to attack me rather than my arguments

[shut iris]

That bill does nothing 😂

[gaunt bronze]

Let's focus on the debate

[shut iris]

I’ve been reported a lot for just saying “I hate you” online

[gaunt bronze]

https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/bill/C-63/first-reading "C-63"

[shut iris]

I even had the police come to my house over it

But they did nothing

They laughed it off 😂

[gaunt bronze]

Where does it say "Online Harms Bill C-63, which will give police the power to retroactively search the Internet for 'hate speech' violations and arrest offenders, even if the offence occurred before the law existed," (this itself is literally an interpretation of the bill rather than the bill itself)

[gaunt bronze]

where in here does it say "Online Harms Bill C-63, which will give police the power to retroactively search the Internet for 'hate speech' violations and arrest offenders, even if the offence occurred before the law existed," and where can u interpret it from

[gaunt bronze]

Loll

[frank furnace]

that ain't the whole bill. screenshot the 1% and claim it's the bill

[gaunt bronze]

i sent the link to it

And btw that's the parliamentary summary of the bill

[gaunt bronze]

But answer this please: find where it says what u said (or where you get that interpretation from) and the source to your original comment

Lol also this part is completely wrong i believe

"even if the offence occurred before the law existed,"" clear violation of the charter of rights and freedoms or the criminal code:

[frank furnace]

cap
u pissed in ur pants, and fell unconscious
true story

[gaunt bronze]

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art11g.html, here the supreme court writes: "Any person charged with an offence has the right:

not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law or was criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the community of nations

[shut iris]

I swear bro 😂

[gaunt bronze]

Particularly, "not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law"

[shut iris]

Why would I lie about something that ridiculous?

[gaunt bronze]

So the latter part of your claim was completely wrong

[shut iris]

Astaghfiruallah

[gaunt bronze]

Other examples, including in ur own country, exists similarly these protections

Article 9 of the American Convention on Human Rights; article 7(1) of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms; and article 1, sections 9 and 10 of the Constitution of the United States of America

[gaunt bronze]

SCHTRANER

You're the university student omg, am i not right?

[shut iris]

I am

How are ya 😂

[gaunt bronze]

irritated

[shut iris]

Even after a shower?

[gaunt bronze]

Yes

[frank furnace]

can u verify this

https://twitter.com/theMitchio/status/1781296423096508791

Mitchio (@theMitchio) on X

My wife wrote to all Canadian MP's about our opposition to the Online Harms Bill C-63. MP Rachael Thomas of Lethbridge is the only one who wrote back ... It is the best written summary of issues I have seen yet. Long, but here it is...

"Thank you for writing to me regarding…

Twitter · Apr 19, 2024, 12:18 PM

[gaunt bronze]

can you asnwer my questions first

y r u using twitter as ur source bruh 😭

[frank furnace]

yeah Twitter is where the government officials are on
straight from the horses mouth

[gaunt bronze]

Can you answer my questions please

[gaunt bronze]

^ these

[gaunt bronze]

Yea but r u gonna use an MP (a conservative one at that, already bias) to interpret BILL C-63

Who probably wants to push their political agenda (and the person posting it), or someone more credible and impartial

The bill hasn't even passed it's second reading too

it has 7 more steps to go through: Second reading
Consideration in committee
Report stage
Third reading

Senate (first reading, second reading, third reading)

[frank furnace]

sis slow down

we are not in a hurry !!

[gaunt bronze]

But I am

[gaunt bronze]

This is the great thing about democracy, yk,

Even if BILL C-63 restricts freedom of expression [speech] (which if it does,s constitutes a violation of the constitution and the supreme court would overrule it, as it has done before in the past), the polls show that pierre poilievre (the opposition) is in the lead

So in the next election he could just reverse it!!

Much slower than a dictatorship, ofc, but much better long-term

I will agree w/ you in one sense though: bill c-63 is too broad,

It's not even law too and i bet the election is gonna happen before it's ratified (and he probably wont win the next one) and then ofc again, there's the supreme court

And the house of commons itself is a check of power

[frank furnace]

so you're telling me you read the 1000+ pages length bill in a few minutes?

[gaunt bronze]

no

i just read the top bits

u dont need to read the whole thing to figure out what i said anyways

[frank furnace]

yeah yeahh

[gaunt bronze]

But I am still waiting for my answers

[frank furnace]

they'll sneak in their BS in pages 1092

[gaunt bronze]

find it

[frank furnace]

but let's judge the book by it's cover

[gaunt bronze]

there's a summary at the top

[gaunt bronze]

legal bills are not like books btw

[frank furnace]

ok just making the analogy to understand

[gaunt bronze]

poor use of an analogy

[frank furnace]

ok let's not have a "meta conversation "

[gaunt bronze]

um what-

😭 where is this going

[gaunt bronze]

Please answer my questions omg

[frank furnace]

okay so

this is where I found that wording

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/business/elon-musk-says-canada-law-to-stop-online-hate-sounds-insane/articleshow/109943382.cms

[gaunt bronze]

^ and the source to ur original comment

[frank furnace]

it's in the article bro check it out
nobody gets hurt

[gaunt bronze]

Lol this is funny

[frank furnace]

ikik we the people do the fact checking

so far nothing wrong has been said

[gaunt bronze]

huh?

[frank furnace]

it hasn't been fact checked as false !!

[gaunt bronze]

and the other way around too

[frank furnace]

okay it's neutral then??

nobody wins

I'm okay with that final verdict

I'm not a Canadian anyways

[gaunt bronze]

Omg this is so funny

[gaunt bronze]

Ok honestly it shouldnt be about whether we win or not

We both learnt something

[frank furnace]

fun funn funny funny

[frank furnace]

we learnt what exactly!??

yeah don't mess with big daddy trudeau

[gaunt bronze]

I actually didnt originally know that the constitution prevented retroactive law punishment

[gaunt bronze]

Or that there are many other examples (like here!)

Or the broadness of Bill C-63

[gaunt bronze]

he's going to lose the next election

[frank furnace]

would u like be a law student? u seem that type

[frank furnace]

in ur dreams

[gaunt bronze]

The polls seem to be in his favour, and the canadian public just has that attitude

[frank furnace]

he's gonna win, big y'all haters cry a river

[gaunt bronze]

I dislike trudeau i dont hate him

But yea he's not winning

[frank furnace]

which poll !!

[gaunt bronze]

ironically, if you use statistics similarly in the U.S., it looks like trump is winning

but biden will probably win

[frank furnace]

poll can be wrong sometimes
you know this right !!

[frank furnace]

biden already won

he's exploding in the polls

[gaunt bronze]

Oh oops let me find it

[gaunt bronze]

yes, they're a lot more hectic but trudeau still seems much more unlikely

[frank furnace]

don't try u won't kitty

u won't finddd it

[gaunt bronze]

https://abacusdata.ca/abacus-data-conservatives-lead-by-15/

https://globalnews.ca/news/9977041/ipsos-preferred-prime-minister-poilievre/

[frank furnace]

oh u actually did good work digging

[gaunt bronze]

ive cited before & now when u asked

[frank furnace]

okokok

[gaunt bronze]

importance of looking at data and statistics before coming to a hypothesis and digging for conclusions after fr

[frank furnace]

what is this poll? is this recognize, not a fringe one?

[gaunt bronze]

global news (a news organisation, and it's just reporting statistics) and abacusdata which is like a think tank

and btw just search up "polls trudeau vs polievere"

[frank furnace]

jagdeep singh ❤️

[gaunt bronze]

oh the ndp person

[thorny steeple]

Do you have think Trudeau could win this year?

[frank furnace]

I'll grant this is valid, would u want polievere to win

he's a threat to democracy right more than trudeau

he's like a controlled opposition

[gaunt bronze]

idc

im not even old enough to vote

[gaunt bronze]

I see

[frank furnace]

I'm asking you

[gaunt bronze]

No he's not winning the next election

[thorny steeple]

Good since Canada does need change tbh

[frank furnace]

kkkkkkk
that sucks