🧠｜serious-chat

[balmy matrix]

Who gave bro the keyboard

[dapper laurel]

I just dropped a bomb 🔥

[manic juniper]

Venetian is also a language

Occitan too

[dapper laurel]

Say the corrections after reading everything, please

[manic juniper]

I have read everything else, you called those dialects lol

They are not dialects for sure

[dapper laurel]

I humbly apologize, in my language the word dialect also means language, it was my mistake

[thorny steeple]

You think Italy is more diverse than Russia?

[manic juniper]

No I don't think so, even if you just include European Russia they might be more or less on par by then

But if you include all of Russia there are just too many people that don't even share language families or continent

Indo-European, Uralic, Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic

And Caucasians

[thorny steeple]

(I'd never think that tho)

[dapper laurel]

Who would ever think that

[thorny steeple]

Some stupid person

[manic juniper]

I spoke to people that do in fact think that

[dapper laurel]

Were they Russian?

[manic juniper]

Italian

[dapper laurel]

💀

No way

I'm Italian

[thorny steeple]

I'm new to this kind of discussion tho, I got into this one year ago

[manic juniper]

Papuans too have at least two different origins, one is much older than the other so idk

[dapper laurel]

Italy may be different, but there are Russians who resemble Chinese. Russia is much more diverse than Italy

[manic juniper]

I don't know if it's possible to calculate that reliably, it's possible that many people changed a lot culturally but very little generically. Like Spaniards and Portuguese, they have Celtic origins but their languages obviously aren't

[thorny steeple]

Portuguese have changed quite a lot during the Arab conquest, they also absorbed aspects and words from African languages, although Ancient Portuguese are of Celtic ancestry.

The Spanish Language have 4000 words with Arab origins

[dapper laurel]

If you are referring to after the fall of the Roman Empire, I think the language remained close to Latin only because the Visigoths used a different code of laws and they gradually integrated after years. They never tried to assimilate the Spanish I think

[thorny steeple]

I mean Portuguese as people.

But the language too

[manic juniper]

I thought the Mozarabians were very few and just in positions of power

[dapper laurel]

This certainly also influenced their genetics, Andalusia is very different from the Basque countries for example

[manic juniper]

No I'm not saying that, just that their languages changed unlike their genetics, they'd be closer to Italians if they did consistently

And Romanians too

They are various Balkan and Central European but the language is romance

[thorny steeple]

Portuguese people are even called Moortuguese by some people, we Brazilians have that DNA. The Arab influencia in Iberian Peninsula lasted for more than 600 years until they got completely expelled

[dapper laurel]

Lol moortuguese

This made me laugh

[thorny steeple]

Does this man look more Arab or European?

[manic juniper]

I mean we also had Swedes for 600 years, yet we are not similar besides few of us

[dapper laurel]

He looks Berber

[manic juniper]

They were few and only in positions of power, the only Swedes that left a footprint in the genome lived in Uusimaa and coastal Ostrobothnia

[thorny steeple]

Or "mourugues" in our language.

Northern Spain remained German as the Visigoths kept their rule on that place

[thorny steeple]

Right he has that DNA

[manic juniper]

He looks European to me, just quite dark

Skin colour doesn't matter that much

[dapper laurel]

But where does he come from?

[manic juniper]

Or hair colour

[thorny steeple]

I saw that some Sweds live in Estonia and that makes that a bit Nordic, do you agree? Also Estonia were part of the Viking Kingdom

[manic juniper]

Nordic is just a socioeconomic thing, any country could be Nordic

[thorny steeple]

He is called Abel Ferreira, a football coach. Now he is in Brazil,

[manic juniper]

Our country is Nordic but isn't closely related in language and culture to the other 4

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, Estonia isn't Nordic due to various reasons, one of them is USSR, it lasted too long for them to be indepedent

[manic juniper]

Estonia was under Danish occupation similarly to us under Sweden

they were similarly rich to us once, and had more potential

[thorny steeple]

Ancient Finnish are rather Asians,,

[dapper laurel]

It depends on whether you mean Nordic as a geographical term or as an ethnic term

[manic juniper]

There isn't an ethnic Nordic

[dapper laurel]

However, there are Germanic populations typical of the northern regions

[manic juniper]

Those are North Germanic or Norse, not Nordic

Nordic is just a term for our welfare and economic system

Poland could become Nordic tomorrow

[dapper laurel]

Why do you mean Nordic as a socioeconomic term, isn't that just a stereotype?

[manic juniper]

Because that's what Nordic is

Tell me what's Nordic about the myth of the duck sent by the sky god to create the universe after laying an egg

[dapper laurel]

I found this

[manic juniper]

Yes, those people are part of the system, someone with citizenship is also Nordic even if their parents are from Africa

But it's not an ethnicity, it's just tied to your nationality and to politics

I have 0 things in common with someone from Greenland or a guy from Reykjavik

[dapper laurel]

I also found this

@manic juniper Let me know what you think, I should go now

[thorny steeple]

Scandinavia is more of a Geographic term, isn't it

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't include Estonia, I would include Greenland because it's part of the kingdom of Denmark

[manic juniper]

Both are, but one is historical and the other is just political

[thorny steeple]

@manic juniper are u graduating on history or antropology by any chance?

[manic juniper]

No

I'm trying to get a doctorate in Ecology and Evolutionary Biology

[thorny steeple]

What are u graduated in?

[manic juniper]

The same thing but I only have a master

[thorny steeple]

Nice to hear

[sage knoll]

Hello any English fluent individuals in here?

[wraith geyser]

Yes!!

[wraith geyser]

✅

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[feral river]

Well that’s just a piece of land which fulfilled by ice

But why didn’t Denmark sell this land to the United States ?

or they just capture it

[manic juniper]

Why would they sell it

[feral river]

Why didn’t they using force to occupy it I heard a lot of times that US wanted this land

or just buy it during the WW2 just like the destroyer trade with the British Empire

[manic juniper]

If they do that then the entire EU would oppose it and not be an ally anymore

Denmark is one of the most respected countries in the EU even if small

[feral river]

Well yes if now they claim it but why didn’t they claim it in before ?

In the year that everything can change, like WW2

[thorny steeple]

if such a thing were to happen canada would be expected to take it

and this would further increase tensions with the soviets at the time

[manic juniper]

Canada and the British Empire were on the way

[thorny steeple]

its like the issue of ukraine's joining to nato right now

[thorny steeple]

it doesnt seem like its gonna happen

[feral river]

According to Russia, that would be a nuclear war if Ukraine joins nato

[thorny steeple]

yea

[formal pilot]

He's only 17 and won the candidates in other words he's the challanger for world championship

[slender escarp]

Yes, I am

[obtuse stirrup]

Woah

Let's see if he's got the balls to back up all the hype

[dapper laurel]

Has he ever touched grass?

[cedar oar]

The equevelant of grass for him are Chess pieces

[dapper laurel]

How sad

I'm on a school trip boom

[thorny steeple]

Wow

[static pivot]

@quick plover hello

[quick plover]

howdy.

[cedar oar]

Hi

[static pivot]

How about no trolling

[pliant token]

hi

[hushed bear]

Afghan Jalebi mashooq farebi
Ghayal hai tera deewana

[formal scaffold]

Nehi nehi Im not down

[thorny steeple]

I saw this guy here yesterday

[mortal junco]

@fast sleet basically St. Louis is controlled by democrats but the state is not

[fast sleet]

Oh, I see

I can't say that I know how it is yo be like that

But I can say that I know what is to have a robber as you country president @mortal junco

[thorny steeple]

Vargas take this gun off your hand

[fast sleet]

Shesh, I forgot to lock my room

[thorny steeple]

yes ma'am

[feral river]

DONALD TRUMP!

TRUMP WILL BE BACK AND SAVE AMERICA

[high saddle]

this is why first-past-the-post is silly

[rose eagle]

Hmm are you sure?

[lunar halo]

Anyone here is software engineer?

[hushed bear]

I'm just in love with (maria) name

Idk but i love it a lot

[thorny steeple]

We all love the mother of god

[hushed bear]

Which god?

[thorny steeple]

Jesus Christ
The only God

[hushed bear]

His mother's name was maria?

Heard it for the first time

Idk about all this, i just like the name

Maria ❤️❤️

[thorny steeple]

In English it's Mary
In Spanish and Portuguese it's Maria
That happens because we must translate royal / religious names

[hushed bear]

Oo

I just like maria

That is all

Hehe

[thorny steeple]

That's one of the most common names in Latin America

[hushed bear]

I really need a female friend with this name
Cause i love this name

Wbu
Where are you from

[thorny steeple]

"friend" we won't judge you bru

[hushed bear]

Just friend

Haha

[thorny steeple]

Start learning any Latin language and go on those servers

[hushed bear]

I ain't interested in learning languages

I can only speak 3 languages hindi, english and, punjabi

[static pivot]

You said you wanted to talk to me

[hushed bear]

Yup
You remembered suddenly?

Lmao

[cedar oar]

Citation needed [Wikipedia]

[random jewel]

Heey guys

[thorny steeple]

Truths don't need citations

[cedar oar]

Yes they do need them. In science, everything has a citation, at least everything that isn't theoretical

[thorny steeple]

Science is gay

[jaunty lance]

the best argument I see in all my life

[cedar oar]

No, it's not. Perhaps you lack evidence to prove against it, and that's why all you could mutter was an absolutely untrue statement. @formal pilot, add this guy to The List.

[hushed bear]

They call me superman
I'm here rescue you

🦜🦜

[cedar oar]

You could have decided to reply with a reasonable message, but it seems as if you don't have one, and therefore can only send images depicting yourself.

[cedar oar]

I wish

[balmy matrix]

same

[thorny steeple]

Aristotle once said that everything that moves gets its energy from anything. A car needs a creator and a driver to set it up and move.
Plato says that for every creation needs a perfect form to be serve as model (and that form can never be reached). Think of a table. It needs a craftsman to make it and set it up. In the ideal world, this table has an image in which the craftsman had to use as a model. But that table doesn't depict the table that the craftsman thought of. And so does humanity; God is the perfect form, everything was creted as an attempt to depict what is perfect, but it was never reached; God is the perfect form; we are so small to understand him thoroughly

[cedar oar]

That first sentence of yours seems to be incorrectly formed, though that matters not. There is no concrete evidence of God's existance.

[thorny steeple]

It was, I'm on a hurry so I could not properly write that.

[cedar oar]

What was? The sentence? It wasn't, you edited it to be so just recently, that however does not address my other statement.

[thorny steeple]

Yes the sentence, I corrected that.
Define "concrete"

[cedar oar]

You did. I'm not really gonna define it, but say more so that there is no actual way of telling that God exists, as he himself is super natural (if he exists), is he not?

Anyway, I must go now

[thorny steeple]

I will use Plato again: we live in the sensitive world. That world that we can feel and understand is too little to God's world. God's nature is not our nature.
It's impossible to tell that God exists only by using our senses; God is too big to be understood on our nature. The only way to understand God is by elevating our souls to God's and studying him. We are too ignorant to even think of how God really are

[cedar oar]

Back once again, but not for long.

[cedar oar]

That still does not give me evidence of God's existance.

[rich lotus]

Who's Muslim here?

[lyric karma]

Me 😶👋🏻

[thorny steeple]

At your service. 👋

[thorny steeple]

Consider referring to the argument from necessity that I've presented once: #🧠｜serious-chat message

Alhamdulillah. We as Muslims are very consistent in our belief, and we have evidence for our claims that are sufficient for any truth seeker.

[cedar oar]

I'm tired and It is 23:05 for me currently, so I may misunderstand this. While I have thought about that arguement myself, all of the things that apply to what you said also apply to God as he too would need a cause to exist. But that, even if true, I am not quite sure if I can consider it sufficient enough to prove his existance.

[thorny steeple]

Would you become a theist if I prove God's existence?

[cedar oar]

I remember you asking that to somebody else as well, but, that shall remain a topic for tomorrow as it is currently too late for me to make any arguements that are solid enough.

[thorny steeple]

Yes, I asked @ Kohelet before responding to his misconceptions. Since you saw it then you know it would be pointless to prove his existence if the other party is not actually listening or is not open-minded.
Anyways (this is a slang for "anyway", because I remember you commenting on that 😆), have some rest my friend. We can definitely discuss it tomorrow or any time you want.

[cedar oar]

Well, if the evidence was concrete enough, others could believe it, or it could make for an interesting debate. Anyway, I shall indeed have some rest, as I did not sleep well yesterday at all which makes the current situation at hand even more fatiguing. Cya, until tomorrow.

[thorny steeple]

I respect your point of view, bro. I'm not here to convince you, this debate is too complex and a conclusion can't be reached

[hushed bear]

Guys
I wanna talk about ISIS
Anyone interested?

[thorny steeple]

Nice topic. I
I will lurk, I haven't studies that tho

[hushed bear]

Let's talk today over vc

I meant tomorrow

Will talk about it in depth

[craggy sphinx]

I'm not defending anyone but

Why would it be needing to 'start' falling? Maybe there is no 'start' of falling, but a continuous thing.

[thorny steeple]

Because each domino piece is dependent on the one preceding it.

This is called the causal chain of events, or causality for short.

[craggy sphinx]

Casual chain of events, doesn't require a starting point

you are describing random processes

in this category this possibility is allowed

Why does the domino fall? Because it is pulled by gravity

What happens when the gravity dissappears?

The Universe could just be a constant motion

Sometimes, it makes no sense to think there would be any starting point

@static pivot sup. I saw your statements, could you substantiate them?

This is a serious chat, right?

[jolly agate]

yo

let me join in

[craggy sphinx]

Where is the starting point?

[static pivot]

What statement

[craggy sphinx]

denial of the existence of accomplished.

[static pivot]

Which statement is that

[craggy sphinx]

Why is the possibility of their existence not allowed?

[static pivot]

Kindly show me

[craggy sphinx]

ok

.

I will not prove this from a religious point of view.

Let's try a different method

. But what is your maxim based on?

[tranquil shell]

What are you guys talking about

[craggy sphinx]

sup. of course

[tranquil shell]

🎭

[jolly agate]

😂😂.

[tranquil shell]

🫠🫠

[thorny steeple]

@craggy sphinx I'll respond in private mate. This server is becoming increasingly annoying.

[craggy sphinx]

as you wish

[thorny steeple]

One sec. Let me try again.

Bruh! 😆

[jolly agate]

send 2 separate messages

Maybe that would work

[thorny steeple]

Casual chain of events, doesn't require a starting point
The domino piece representing the creation of our known universe require the one preceding it to fall in order for it to fall. Regress back to infinity and you'll discover that none of them would ever fall. So a chain of dependent events requiring a non-dependent cause to initiate it.

you are describing random processes
I believe you're confused. There is nothing in my statement imply or indicating any random processes.

in this category this possibility is allowed
I'm not sure I follow here.

Why does the domino fall? Because it is pulled by gravity
This is called hypothetical. Basically the usage of known examples to illustrate an idea or a concept.

The Universe could just be a constant motion
Ah, Zeno's paradoxes again. 😆

Sometimes, it makes no sense to think there would be any starting point
I agree. Not in our case though.

[thorny steeple]

Indeed worked.

[jolly agate]

😏

[thorny steeple]

@craggy sphinx

[jolly agate]

Then how do they began. Even if things seem to just keep happening without a clear beginning, like dominoes falling because of gravity, there are often other reasons or events that set everything in motion. For example, even in a constantly moving universe, there might have been a specific event, like the Big Bang, that started it all. So, even when it feels like there's no starting point, there usually is one if we look closely enough.

quite similar

[rich lotus]

Why prophet married a 9 yo

And why he had sexual intercourse with her

@lyric karma @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

What is the right age for marriage?

[thorny steeple]

wtf, what kind of answer is this, disgusting

[rich lotus]

I can assure you 9 isn't

[thorny steeple]

It's clearly a question. I'm not sure where do you get that idea that it's an answer.

[rich lotus]

Right age is when she's an adult

[thorny steeple]

That's not the answer to my question.

[rich lotus]

I already did

[thorny steeple]

I'm asking for a number.

[balmy matrix]

9? 🤔

[thorny steeple]

i meant "response"

[rich lotus]

9 according to islam

So according to you and islam 9 is year is marriage age

[thorny steeple]

No, according to Islam 9 is not the age for marriage. 😂
We have a completely different criteria.

[rich lotus]

But you prophet marriage when she was 9

And had sexual intercourse with her

Hadith says she used to wash semen from prophets clothes

What else do you need man

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232066344577531944/1232068731245563924/IMG_20240423_020653.jpg?ex=66281cec&is=6626cb6c&hm=afd4b721223e8e310df1a2fcdc129a49af571736485509af67b77bdcca101ce2&

https://sunnah.com/muslim:289a

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232066344577531944/1232068764317515826/IMG_20240423_020607.jpg?ex=66281cf4&is=6626cb74&hm=f586a7666a18634f9323c948cd24d9748e3d40dd9bf68111859a39cee4f3033f&

Prophet offered nawaj in clothes covered with semen

Well okay

[thorny steeple]

Slimani is the greatest of all times

[thorny steeple]

Because there is no specific age for marriage in Islam. It doesn't make any sense given that different cultures had different specifications for the age of marriage. It has not been so long when the age of consent in Britain was about 13 years old.
Our criteria would be the age of puberty in a nutshell. Once an individual is pubescent, and is mentally and physically (sometimes also financially) capable for marriage, he/she can marry.

[rich lotus]

Talk about your Religion

So islam says have sex with 9 year olds?

This sounds like pedophilia to me

And if islam says there's no marriage age,islam is wrong.

And you shouldn't blindly follow it

[thorny steeple]

No it doesn't. Islam provides a different criteria than "The age of consent" which you're forcibly attempting to impose on Muslims.

[rich lotus]

Your prophet had sex with 9 yo

I'm not saying anything , Quran is saying everything

I posted Hadith proof

[thorny steeple]

most of the hadiths are nonsense, but the discussion should not have turned to the age of consent, if the claim is false, falsification should have been made, thats all

[rich lotus]

Muhammad offered prayers in clothes covered in semen

[rich lotus]

So hadiths are fake?

[thorny steeple]

hadiths are not quran tho

[rich lotus]

That's your claim.?

[thorny steeple]

This statement might be regarded as an insult for over 2 billion Muslims. Insinuating that we are following a pedophile prophet is not a good way to discuss with a Muslim.

[rich lotus]

Okay again Quran says prophet married and had sex with her when she was 9

[rich lotus]

Shut up

I'm just saying what Quran said

[thorny steeple]

What??

[balmy matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935989994735169546/971360888504336384/ezgif-3-df032e241058-1.gif

[rich lotus]

You don't have answers so I'm insulting you lol

Ffs

Just one question

Was prophet right to have sex with a 9 yo girl?

Just yes or no, answer me this.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[jolly agate]

kinda foolish

[rich lotus]

My question for everyone

[thorny steeple]

Have a look at the rules of the server mate. If you're unable to maintain an intellectual discussion before becoming overly emotional, triggered or disrespectful, don't initiate one.

[rich lotus]

Just a simple yes or no

Answer me flare.yes or no

Just a simple question

[hard parrot]

What the fish are y'all on about

[jolly agate]

shouldn’t be hard to follow

[hard parrot]

How many times will y'all debate this 💀

[jolly agate]

as long as it exists

[hard parrot]

Dang

[thorny steeple]

Hi kevin

Can I ask you about Rebekah?

[jolly agate]

I know

[hard parrot]

Let's talk about something more serious

[rich lotus]

Who's that?

[jolly agate]

yeh the chaos

[hard parrot]

For humanity's sake

[jolly agate]

Love it

[thorny steeple]

This is called the loaded question fallacy. It's carried out with the presumption that marrying as a "9 year old" individual is objectively wrong. Which would be completely false. So I don't have to answer this question which is aimed to portray me or my religion in a bad image.

Why did father do that??

[rich lotus]

I am not a Christian but go on lol

[hard parrot]

CHAT WHAT'S THE BEST FLAVOR OF ICE CREAM?

[jolly agate]

vanilla

[thorny steeple]

MilkShake

[hard parrot]

My g

[rich lotus]

Marrying a 9 yo is wrong.

[jolly agate]

it’s not a flavour

[thorny steeple]

#🧠｜serious-chat

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-dance-rave-dancing-pedro-gif-12980208777396115333

[hard parrot]

THAT'S NOT A FLAVOR

[hard parrot]

I'M IN THE RIGHT PLACE

IT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION

[jolly agate]

Myy G

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-shinji-shinji-ikari-ikari-neon-genesis-evangelion-gif-21115075

[hard parrot]

Ayo waddafak

[balmy matrix]

just move on boys

boring ahh topic

[thorny steeple]

~topic

[molten mica]

What story you’ve heard has stayed with you and always disturbs you every time you think about it?

[hard parrot]

NO MY ICE CREAM

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[thorny steeple]

🤓🤓🤓

Read then u ll get it, don’t listen to your islamphobic friends

[balmy matrix]

read what

🤔

[thorny steeple]

Qoran

[rich lotus]

Stop marrying 9 year olds

And we'll talk.

[thorny steeple]

I can’t marry girl

Biologically

[hard parrot]

TALK ABOUT THAT LATER WHAT'S THE BEST FLAVOR OF ICE CREAAAM

[thorny steeple]

Coffe flavor

[thorny steeple]

lemon

[jolly agate]

somethings wrong with the grammar hare

[sour marlin]

Chocolate

[thorny steeple]

I swear it exists in Burger King

[thorny steeple]

Ew wtf

[hard parrot]

I'M GENUINELY CONCERNED, HUMANITY'S EXISTENCE IS AT STAKE HERE

[balmy matrix]

he just asked a yes or no question, should'nt be that hard i guess

[hard parrot]

NUH UH, VANILLA

[rich lotus]

Yeah.

[thorny steeple]

Read then come@back

And I ll answer you

[hard parrot]

Dang y'all got no seriousness 😔

[thorny steeple]

im joking, i think its almond, honey, vanilla and chocolate

[sour marlin]

Ugh u suck at this

[balmy matrix]

give him the verse where's that topic being explained then

[thorny steeple]

@ justareallyboredguy#0000 last chance

[hard parrot]

VANILLA IS AVAILABLE BY EVERY MAJOR ICE CREAM COMPANIES

[balmy matrix]

don't insult anyone's beliefs bro

[hard parrot]

That's a controversial photo dawg. You can delete or the mods will take care of it

[rich lotus]

Oh

Ok.

[hard parrot]

Chill out y'all like dang

[rich lotus]

I mean she was 9

[thorny steeple]

Should we bring master po here?

[thorny steeple]

true

[rich lotus]

But ok

[thorny steeple]

Or no

[sour marlin]

THAT SUS

[hard parrot]

I mean we already discussed this shi

[thorny steeple]

Just scroll up

[rich lotus]

Prophet was right to marry a 9 yo, yes or no.

[hard parrot]

YOUR EXISTENCE IS SUS. TELL ME ONE, ONE REASON FOR VANILLA NOT BEING THE BEST

[thorny steeple]

I won’t answer that question, read then come back

[rich lotus]

Hahahah

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/this-how-you-look-typing-that-angry-rage-mad-keyboard-warrior-gif-25025303

[hard parrot]

I'm feeling funny

[rich lotus]

Exposed!

[thorny steeple]

Srry

[hard parrot]

BECAUSE IT'S A SERIOUS TOPIC

[sour marlin]

SHUT THE HELL UP!
THE VANILLA'S FLAVOR I HATE

[thorny steeple]

Wow say debunked innit?

[balmy matrix]

HELL YEAH I'M BLOODY SERIOUS NOW

[sour marlin]

Tastes bad

[hard parrot]

@sonic terrace fk u

[hard parrot]

WHAT?!

[rich lotus]

You can't answer a simple question

[thorny steeple]

Sorry herclokk😭

[hard parrot]

YOU GOT NO TASTE BUD

[jolly agate]

can you people move to more casual talk like #💭｜general

[hard parrot]

NAWW

[rich lotus]

If you can't answer a simple question about your Religion then stop typing pls

[hard parrot]

I'M GENUINELY CONCERNED

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/anti-anime-sonic-says-sonic-anime-anime-cringe-gif-21514865

kick these anime pfps outta here

[hard parrot]

Blud

[sour marlin]

YES

[thorny steeple]

Imagine loving lemon ice cream

Ewwwwwww

[thorny steeple]

i was jooking

[hard parrot]

It ain't bad tho-

[sour marlin]

U HAVE A BAD TASTE

[thorny steeple]

bc of my username

Ahh I see now

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/back-off-this-is-my-swamp-shrek-shreks-swamp-gif-10789086609985963859

[thorny steeple]

Nah that s the worst Combination of milk

[hard parrot]

true, otherwise I wouldn't have befriended you-

Google is crazy

💀

[thorny steeple]

💪🏾Google

[hard parrot]

Fr fr

[thorny steeple]

i actually like icecream with almond particles and chocolate, honey, vanilla

[thorny steeple]

Same

[sour marlin]

Remove me rn

[balmy matrix]

vanilla > chocolate

[thorny steeple]

almond honey and vanilla is the best combination

[sour marlin]

Remove me from ur friends

[thorny steeple]

When u turn 16 u ll understand that

chocolate is good in itself tho

[hard parrot]

Nuh uh

[hard parrot]

Fr fr

[thorny steeple]

All kids are into vanilla

[balmy matrix]

anime pfps arent allowed to talk here

[sour marlin]

Yea

[balmy matrix]

🤫 🧏🏻‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

Y have anime pfp yourself

[sour marlin]

I AGREE

[balmy matrix]

get glasses bud

[thorny steeple]

I swear I see anime

[thorny steeple]

is it virgil

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/calaca-insana-skull-insane-skull-jijijija-jijija-gif-4512035026220832473

its not

[thorny steeple]

😭am I cooked

[hard parrot]

Naww @sonic terrace pull up on this dude

[balmy matrix]

totally

[balmy matrix]

blud had to ping andrew tate

[hard parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-never-cook-again-sukuna-domain-gojo-sukuna-malevolent-shrine-gif-13864519526514614028

[sonic terrace]

MasterPo spawns

[sonic terrace]

Games PFPs aren't any better

Both NPC hobbies

[balmy matrix]

andrew tez shut it

[sonic terrace]

Oh wait it's mike

Naaah you my buddy

[balmy matrix]

blud be getting motivated by andrew tate 🗣️ 🔥

[balmy matrix]

u be attacking real quick bud

[sonic terrace]

Don't take that serious tho

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-dance-rave-dancing-pedro-gif-12980208777396115333

[sonic terrace]

Andrewwha

[sonic terrace]

Motivation is like an adrenaline boost
Not permeant

[balmy matrix]

real

[sonic terrace]

New pfp

[hard parrot]

That's my husband (according to the family tree)

[hard parrot]

Actually ykw

[sonic terrace]

Don't even think about it, that pfp is the new masterpo not herlock

[balmy matrix]

same character

[sonic terrace]

i take the racoon or whatever it is

[thorny steeple]

No worries. Now show me why is it wrong? If you're referring to the present-day standards, you would be committing the presentism fallacy. The age of consent is highly variable, relative, and might even be subjective. Different countries have different ages generally considered to be the right age for marriage.

1. It was culturally acceptable in the era of the prophet to marry at young ages such as 6, 7, 8, or even 9 years old. A proof is that even before the prophet peace be upon him marries Aisha, she was already engaged to Jubayr ibn Muṭʽim. Another proof is that Khawlah bint Hakim was the one to recommend him to marry Aisha. Yet another proof is that, even though the disbelievers at the time of the prophet peace be upon him used anything at their disposal to discredit and harm him, we've never heard them talking about his marriage to Aisha. So it was very familiar at that time to marry at such young ages.
2. Many Hadiths narrated the following statements made by Aisha RA:

• "...How can it be (that a woman like me) should not feel jealous in regard to a husband like you..." [Sahih Muslim 2815].
• "The Prophet (ﷺ) died in my house on the day of my turn while he was leaning on my chest closer to my neck, and Allah made my saliva mix with his Saliva." Aisha added, "AbdurRahman came with a Siwak and the Prophet (ﷺ) was too weak to use it so I took it, chewed it and then (gave it to him and he) cleaned his teeth with it" [Sahih Bukhari 3100].
• "...Yes (you are right), but by Allah, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), I leave nothing but your name..." [Sahih Bukhari 5228]

Your unreasonable irrational complaint about the marriage of the prophet is not even valid. A woman who says I can leave nothing but your name, feels jealous about him, or be glad to use the Miswak before him so that her saliva mix with his doesn't sound like a woman who is either harmed, mistreated, or even unprepared for marriage. You'll have to find another doubt to discredit Islam unfortunately.

[hard parrot]

HOLY SHI

THAT'S A LONG ESSAY

[thorny steeple]

He was testing me. I had to respond.

[hard parrot]

Bro cooked

[thorny steeple]

I wouldn't allow anyone to speak one single negative word against my beloved prophet upon him be peace and blessings simply for hearing some online prejudice-based complaints. Additionally, he was highly disrespectful and preconceived in his ideology, which caused me to be more triggered and less empathetic towards him during the discussion.

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple
Your opinion seemed very aligned with his, so here is my response. I challenge you to refute this argument.

[static pivot]

You haven't answered his question

Yes or no one

[thorny steeple]

congratulations, you have a religion that cannot keep up with today's conditions. they accused your guide of marrying a 9-year-old and you just agreed

[static pivot]

Just answer that

[thorny steeple]

I don't have to as I've previously mentioned: #🧠｜serious-chat message

[static pivot]

Meh

So you said marrying with 9 yo is ok

Man

Anyway

I'm out

Btw that guy is my jail for inappropriate meme.

[thorny steeple]

what 'is my jail' mean

[static pivot]

Jail

Muted

For the posts he made

[hard parrot]

Vivek they already stopped 💀

Leave it

Go easy on them

[thorny steeple]

The standard in which 9 years old marriage is a taboo or frowned upon is a very subjective and relative one. Islam doesn't teach a specific age for marriage. It states that no harm should be inflicted to either parties and each must be physically and mentally (sometimes financially) capable for marriage. This is a religion that perfectly fits each and every era, society, circumstances, conditions, and standards.
I can marry nowadays at 30, that doesn't go against Islam in any way, shape, or form. In the future societies might determine that marrying at 25 as the case for the majority of present-day age of marriage is bad, Islam would fit that era easily as well.

So your statement is inherently flawed.

[thorny steeple]

That's a very good comeback. Lol. 😂

[formal scaffold]

there's an ongoing VC debate btw if u are interested

[thorny steeple]

I have to pray Isha.

I'll see if I can join.

[thorny steeple]

My time zone is -3 GMT
You can schedule

[thorny steeple]

Anything that reminds me of chocolate or strawberry
Also cheese and banana have a nice taste

[sonic lion]

Ew

Vanilla is so underrated

Best flavor ever

[sonic terrace]

I just saw this

[sonic lion]

Andrew Tate on your profile? Dude

What a bad taste

[sonic terrace]

You're enforcing him to answer a Yes/No question while he wrote a whole essay explaining , argue his points one by one

[sonic terrace]

(i asked)

[sonic lion]

Cool response, heard the same one on kindergarten

[sonic terrace]

(i asked)²

[sonic lion]

Lmao

[sonic terrace]

I'm only being nice saying that i asked

I'm saving you from embarrassment sister

[sonic lion]

Why would I be embarrassed for expressing an opinion

[sonic terrace]

Because opinions are the "i refuse to use my brain and I'll stick to that statement" card

Not talking about you

But in general

So instead of saying "My opinion" use logical discussing

[sonic lion]

Okay, elaborate on that

[sonic lion]

But it is dangerous to ignore the existence of the irrational. The more cultivated a person is, the more intelligent, the more repressed

[sonic terrace]

Someone says "sky is green" and i scientifically prove him wrong, but he says "well i respect what you said but in my opinion i think that sky is green"

[sonic lion]

Dude, that’s dumb

My opinion about a person is never scientific

[sonic terrace]

For example, you said "Bad taste" directly without intros

[sonic terrace]

You missed the point, yet called that dumb

[sonic lion]

Yeah, taste is subjective. To me is bad

[sonic terrace]

Your opinion about that person specifically might be formed depending on what you've seen

[thorny steeple]

@formal scaffold
Bro, with all due respect, that was the worst discussion I ever engage in. 😆
People kept talking over each other, shouting, mislabeling each other's reasoning, and committing all types of fallacies.

[sonic terrace]

And i asked

[sonic terrace]

Bro stop chatting in this zoo ffs

People here have the iq of a germ

[thorny steeple]

😆

[sonic terrace]

Waste of time

[thorny steeple]

I believe the organizer of the discussion was very unqualified. He couldn't hold himself from interrupting and committing fallacies all around. Although it felt a bit frustrating, I had some fun observing how being biased is a result of you being triggered and having your ideas being challenged. xD

[sonic terrace]

The only way to do this properly is inviting him to VC

[thorny steeple]

💯

[sonic terrace]

Otherwise his ego will grow bigger and bigger behind the screen thinking he's destroying his opponent

[thorny steeple]

I've wasted over 2 hours. I was kind of afraid that people would think I'm running away if I said I have to leave in the middle of it.

[sonic terrace]

nah lol just leave

[thorny steeple]

I'll follow your advise if there is a next time. 🤝

[sonic lion]

Well obviously, how could it be another way?

[sonic lion]

It doesn’t matter dude, I don’t need your interrogation to express a opinion

[sonic terrace]

And it's preferred to be a locked vc so no clowns can interrupt

[sonic terrace]

You're embarrassing yourself.

Imagine going to a random street, stop a random dude, telling him you don't like his clothes, he'll be like "uh, ok?"

🫵😂

[sonic lion]

It’s not the same

And their clothes don’t sh1t on women

[sonic terrace]

Too bad

Cuz like

That pic

is staying there

[sonic lion]

Of course, I’m not demanding you to take it off

[sonic terrace]

I super care

[sonic lion]

Gosh, you talk like a 16yo

Grow the fvck up

[sonic terrace]

I care about that too Mrs mature

[sonic terrace]

Ma'am that's a bad word yk

Not very mature of you!

[vestal maple]

the most insigihful thing that i can advice someone it's learn english takes time, a lot of itme

it's like we born again

there's someone to interact?

[jolly agate]

Well it takes time to learn anything new, it’s not only limited to learning english.

[static pivot]

Dude you're lucky, you know why?

You were literally reading from chatgpt

[jolly agate]

we born again every time learn,

[static pivot]

You were the one who got the most time to speak

And you had no idea wat were you even reading

😂

You're lucky they didn't mute you

[feral river]

You really mentioned a religious content to proof a thing is correct 😂

I would say, different places with different law and order, if you live in a place that allowed marry with a child, you are literally not required to justify it

who the hell cares, but if even you are living in a society that doesn’t care your religious content even more they may call someone Islamic fundamentalism to justify them as terrorists, who the hell will care and being convinced in here then

That’s why sometimes I always replying back to your comment or statement because that’s totally spreading influence.

And I don’t give a f to that

[static pivot]

No place allows you to marry a child

You know that right?

And if your place or religion allows you to marry a child, you're wrong, your religion is wrong

don't spread toxicity/misinformation here

[feral river]

Different places with different rule and law and you must follow the law which made by your local government with no reason otherwise you got punished.

[static pivot]

Screw different rules

[feral river]

Yeah I don’t think any places have the law that allows you to marry with a children but different places with different law

[static pivot]

Show me where it says you can marry a child

In any place

Quote it

[feral river]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[static pivot]

You literally said that above

[feral river]

I said if it’s possible, if there is they are entitled to do that of course

That’s the right that local government give you

[static pivot]

your logic is totally flawed

kudos

See you

[feral river]

I repeated this logic all the time

And I don’t think you are literally understanding the point

But I don’t care

[static pivot]

isn't making any sense

[feral river]

It make sense 100%

[static pivot]

Nope

[feral river]

Different places with different law, totally 100%

[static pivot]

Done

[sonic lion]

You fools are ruining the sport of arguing online

[static pivot]

Yeah be nice

Stop throwing insults like a child

[jolly agate]

is he muted

[sonic lion]

You’re too sensitive

[static pivot]

He is

[static pivot]

I'm not, and if you want to be here, be respectful

[jolly agate]

Dwag tryna misuse his powers

Nothing to cry about when you yourself is too sensitive

[static pivot]

Yeah right

Thought so

[jolly agate]

cheers crybaby

[sonic lion]

You are, and it’s totally your problem. I would never offend someone by calling them a fool, it was a very innocent way of approaching a convo

[jolly agate]

Do what you want

[sonic lion]

Oh god

Bro thinks he is a anime character or sm

[static pivot]

you don't even what people are talking about

You're just jumping in calling them fools

[sonic lion]

I was talking about the chat gbt thing

[static pivot]

Get over it

[sonic lion]

I was saying that using AI ruined arguing, whats so offensive about that?

Chill, please

[static pivot]

You have not said that

"You fools are ruining the sport of arguing online"

This is what you said

[sonic lion]

AFTER YOU SAID THE CHAT GBT THING

Now you know more about me about what I was trying to say?

[static pivot]

I do

You could have mentioned it before

[sonic lion]

Didn’t know you could read minds

[sonic lion]

You could be less defensive

[proud dirge]

I agree with you.

[weak cobalt]

hello

[formal pilot]

Please mute me so I can enjoy the choas in muted-chat

[hushed bear]

Where are you from

[hushed bear]

About what?

[formal pilot]

Why Tesla is doing so bad

[hushed bear]

Why

[formal pilot]

In 2021 it's valuation was close to $1T
Now it's just $468B

[formal pilot]

Dude they fired 14,000 employees recently

And giving discount on cars 💀

[keen wraith]

hello, do u remember something?!

[formal pilot]

Lmao hell yeah

Let's start from the start

[keen wraith]

ok

[formal pilot]

I'll try to be as non biased as possible

[high saddle]

😔
I really feel like a few #🧠｜serious-chat convos (not this update, of course) have been severely degraded, particularly, at times, when wheels (no, not literal wheels) are involved

[formal pilot]

@keen wraith first let's understand the anatomy behind the building Israel
Atrocities against Jews begins thousands years ago
When Jesus was crucified, Christans belived that all the Jews are responsible for that, and when crusades started (1000 years ago) Christians killed the Jews in large numbers

i believe Judaism is the most hated religion of last 1000 years.
after 1800s hate towards them increased, they used to seem as different ethnicity. Jewish around the globe began feeling that no country accept them and they need to create their own country.
There was a Hungarian journalist, Herzrl, he started new political movement Zionism .
Keep in mind this concept was here before, herzrl just gave it a name, Zionism

This is the story behind Zionism

[keen wraith]

hm , ok.

[formal pilot]

Now from that point politics is hella intresting

Brb lemme grab a water bottle

[static pivot]

@sonic lion

[keen wraith]

sure.

[static pivot]

@jolly agate

[jolly agate]

yes sir

[static pivot]

Welcome

[jolly agate]

Welcome back

[static pivot]

@feral river welcome

[jolly agate]

anything

[jolly agate]

you want to say to us

[static pivot]

Nah

Just woke up

[jolly agate]

😂😂😂

[formal pilot]

I'm back

[keen wraith]

welcome back.

[jolly agate]

there’s literally nothing I can say now

[static pivot]

Good

Brb

[jolly agate]

anyway all good just be careful next time

[formal pilot]

1881 is the year when first large scale migration of Jewish took place, they built permanent settlements in Palestine
Why Palestine cuz it's holiest place for them.
Palestine at that time was in Ottoman Empire, communal tension was negligible that time

Now fast-forward to 1951 during WW1, British french and arab revolutionaries fighting the Ottoman Empire

And British created 3 contradictory policies, which i think is the one of the root cause

[static pivot]

Are you new join here?

[jolly agate]

huh? You mean like join the conversation

[sudden glade]

Hey you’re billaden?

[static pivot]

Server

Like I haven't seen you active before

[jolly agate]

I was then I stopped

[static pivot]

Ah ok

[jolly agate]

too much garbage was here before

no intellect to be found

[static pivot]

[thorny steeple]

hii ppl

[formal pilot]

@keen wraith McMahon agreement

British said to arab revolutionaries help us to defeat Ottoman Empire and Palestine will be yours
[Arab revolutionary were fighting to create a unified Arab country]

Balfour Declaration
British promised the same thing to Jewish that they'll let em create a Jewish nation near Palestine.
At the same time they did a secret deal with France

[formal pilot]

I'm doing good sir, why aren't you online nowadays?

Sykes picot agreement
France and Britain will divide the middle East in themselves

[keen wraith]

\

[formal pilot]

British took control of the Palestine and during WW2 when Hitler was smoking the Jews, they started migrating to Palestine.
And started a Israeli nationalist movement.
Then Palestinian also started movement and demanding their own country.

At the end British left the country in blood bath and everyone knows what's happening since

After that it's just blood bath, I don't want to discuss it rn cuz I haven't read the details/terms and conditions of Oslo agreement

[keen wraith]

mhm, okay.
I'll digest it until then.

[hushed bear]

Lmao

[hushed bear]

Nice

[feral river]

the region of Palestine is part of the United Kingdom in that time, and their choice is to divide this region.

and now, it's literally the region of Israel, and gaza ruled by Hamas, West Bank ruled by Israel and PNA.

I think if we gonna talk about the history, we can claim that whole asia and even europe because Genghis Khan declared himself as emperor of China 😂

the claim literally worth nothing, but occupation by power and force is the real thing.

[formal pilot]

I'm not getting your point

She asked me about the whole Israel Palestine conflict from the start

[feral river]

my point is to decide the region belongs to which country by claim is ridiculous.

yeah I didn't argue with that I'm just stating this point.

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

Like china is doing to Taiwan

[feral river]

yeah that's part of claim, but the real thing that decides who is owner, is force.

like Tibet and Xinjiang 😂

but the interesting thing is someone has force to occupy it and they won't do it because it's costly.

someone use force to occupy it and becomes to a stalemate even launched a rebellion internally in before.

so be smart to took over a region, it's not ancient days that you can do whatever you want because you are powerful in this region

but in the other places, the much more powerful one is seeing anyone who is powerful as threat to their supremacy.

[sudden glade]

My account was suspended lol

[formal pilot]

Lmao why?

[sudden glade]

Discord thinks I’m underage

[formal pilot]

You might jokingly said it

[sudden glade]

Yeah

[formal pilot]

Discord policies are kinda wild rn

[sudden glade]

Discord is crap atm ngl

[formal pilot]

Well, that's the best they can do to keep kids away from pedos

[thorny steeple]

When did you come to this conclusion, in your dreams? 😆

[static pivot]

I fell asleep at late night

[thorny steeple]

That's 10x worse. 😆

[jolly agate]

we got muted too

He unmuted us when he woke up

[thorny steeple]

Lol.

The guy can be conscious during sleep, and also sees through screens and observes what people do. 😆

[jolly agate]

almost Devine attributes

[sudden glade]

Real thing

[formal pilot]

Come to #🫂｜beginner-chat it's serious chat at 4k ngl

[cedar oar]

@thorny steeple, I have returned. I wish for a short debate, and if the evidence of God is concrete enough for me, then why wouldn't become a theist?

Anyway, we shall continue here: #🧠｜serious-chat message

[jolly agate]

A worthy opponent has risen

[cedar oar]

I don't think I'd call myself worthy

[jolly agate]

Chill out, play the role of a hero right now

delete your prior message

or edit it

[formal pilot]

Worsty opponent*

[cedar oar]

Sire, there is no need to tell me to chill as I already am so. Hero, uh, I'll consider myself one when I create my own Wikipedia article.

[cedar oar]

Stop using my username for puns

[jolly agate]

he being sarcastic about your username

[jolly agate]

you don’t get it

never mind

[cedar oar]

I know, but he's doing it too much at this point

[cedar oar]

Because we're in #🧠｜serious-chat, and I'm trying to keep it so

[jolly agate]

not serious

[formal scaffold]

I barely can formulate one sentence sometimes xD

[feral river]

that's too easy, religion is unfalsifiable and science is falsifiable.

that's the ultimate difference.

you can't proof god exist and doesn't exist, neither you can't proof I'm not the god.

so after all of the sorts, you will find one thing which is you are believing a thing that you are likely to believe, no matter it's truth or not.

that's why I only believe truth, and I'm not a god damn atheist or religious person at the same time.

and your believe, doesn't need to proof, mine's too. that's the stupid nature of humanity.

[formal pilot]

@feral river am i allowed to use GPT against a GPT user?? During an argument

[feral river]

of course.

[formal pilot]

Well well well

Someone here is using it

This is want their explanation looks like

[feral river]

wtf are you serious right now ?

[feral river]

is that my text

really bro

[formal pilot]

This is what my explanation looks like

[formal pilot]

Hell na

It's not you

[feral river]

😭

if it's me I think I can have another english test

[formal pilot]

It beats the point of discussion, I can also use the gpt to counter your point

And i got the paid one, it's more powerful

[feral river]

ofc you can beat me by it and It's pretty interesting and challenaging

[formal pilot]

I'm not accusing you dude

[feral river]

I see

@cedar oar I ONLY WORSHIP "HIM"

[formal pilot]

Epic delete

Why Tesla is doing bad?

[feral river]

cuz that's tesla 💀

[formal pilot]

From $1T to $460M in few years

[cedar oar]

Because Twitter was bought

[formal pilot]

For half a billion?

[feral river]

what is twitter ? I never heard about it

I ONLY KNOW X

[cedar oar]

For populists

[feral river]

It's X, X, X, a X

X

[cedar oar]

The coming generations will forget the blue bird

[formal pilot]

Sounds like a W

[cedar oar]

And they will only know the edgy X as being Twitter

[formal pilot]

#🧊｜chill-chat is serious chat rn

[cedar oar]

We all miss general-2

[formal pilot]

Do not include me

[jolly agate]

its only a re-name

general 2 is chill chat

[cedar oar]

I know, but the true spirrit is lost

[cedar oar]

We all miss it, except for excessive pun makers

[jolly agate]

state your arguments

[cedar oar]

(I don't miss it)

[jolly agate]

state your arguments

I mean the reason why you here

[jolly agate]

beat the cause and effect theory

Then you can talk to flare about god

[cedar oar]

No, I can do whatever I want without you telling me what I can do

[jolly agate]

but you cant beat the cause and effect theory, thats the same one he will present

Since you want to have a debate with him shouldn’t you be the one to propose an argument first rather then him

he can say god exist

Now you have to say something

What is it??

[hushed bear]

Ishq di gali vich kr entry

[cedar oar]

I'm not saying God exists or doesn't, I simply said that there is no concrete evidence for his existance. Also, he has to prove God as I'm asking for it, not the other way around

[jolly agate]

So you simply don’t know if god exists or not and you want him to prove god is does exist. So you are a “seeker” who hope to get enlightenment via someone more knowledgeable than yourself.

A seeker of knowledge

Indeed splendid

[cedar oar]

I'm not a "seeker", I simply want evidence to God's claim if people claim he exists

[jolly agate]

thats is seeking

you want to find the answer of the unknown

If it isn’t that what it is

[cedar oar]

That is agnosticism

[jolly agate]

can explain the word “seeker” for me

I think we have a language barrier

[cedar oar]

It has a few definitions for it, search them up. I'm currently talking to somebody else

[jolly agate]

you are clueless right??

[formal pilot]

He's curious

[cedar oar]

The word seeker is a simple word, I know its meaning, but am asking you to search for it as I'm currently talking to somebody else. Also, no we don't have a language barrier

[jolly agate]

if it’s simple you should’ve wrote that rather this long as paragraph

[feral river]

it exist and THAT’S KIM JONG UN

[jolly agate]

anyway

you don’t get my words, or at least you didn’t bother think about them

[cedar oar]

It indeed is, and if it were so to you as well, then you would not have asked for it in the first place

[jolly agate]

you can learn if not prepared to learn

[formal pilot]

How do you define a seeker?

[jolly agate]

Looking for someone, something

Finding answers of the unknown

is a seeking

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah so everyone is a seeker

[jolly agate]

yes

But he wasn’t able to comprehend such simple words

[formal pilot]

He was trying to be more specific

Everyone is a seeker asking it doesn't make sense

[cedar oar]

Dude. I was simply asking for the evidence of God's existance, stop making this overly philosophical

[jolly agate]

I described his situation

[formal pilot]

You described situation on enite human race

[north wedge]

Agnosticism, in and of itself, is all about seeking

[jolly agate]

how so

[formal pilot]

Everything is about seeking

[jolly agate]

its not philosophical its simple English

[formal pilot]

Everyone is a seeker

[north wedge]

Doesn't seem true for a staunch believer who worships a particular doctrine

[cedar oar]

It is simple English, but that's not my point. My point is simply that I asked for evidence for God's existance, and tou made a whole shabang of it

[jolly agate]

the point is you didn’t get it in the first place

[formal pilot]

He defined seeking as looking for someone/something, finding unknown

[jolly agate]

read that again

[jolly agate]

In some way yes

But doesn’t mean I was referring to everyone

I was specifically talking to him

[formal pilot]

He's asking for evidence of god's existence

[cedar oar]

It seems like neither did you

[jolly agate]

I wrote that in more poetry way

[formal scaffold]

there's no proof of god's existance

there are signes tho

[cedar oar]

There you go, that's all I asked for

[jolly agate]

where is your proof that there is no proof

[jolly agate]

there you go

[formal scaffold]

where's your proof that my proof isn't proof?

[jolly agate]

We stuck again at the same plsce

[jolly agate]

see we can keep doing this forever

[formal scaffold]

just with you

[jolly agate]

we are back to square one

[formal scaffold]

with non open minded people I can find common grounds for discussion

[jolly agate]

I never claimed to know I have any proof to begin with, your assumptions was wrong

[formal scaffold]

I'm always wrong

[jolly agate]

You asserted their is no poof for god

I simply asked for evidence

[formal scaffold]

the evidence is the lack of evidence xD

[cedar oar]

Yeah, I already said that that was what I was looking for

[jolly agate]

but lack doesn’t imply it doesn’t exist, there is simply not enough proof for its existence.

it could exist

Its why its belief

[formal scaffold]

you know i can make everything goes in circles about any topic, I just have to play dumb enough for that to happen

[jolly agate]

nothing helped at the end

haha

[formal scaffold]

what is nothing? 🤡

[jolly agate]

nonexistent

[formal scaffold]

do you have a proof of that?

see we all can play that game

it's not smart it's rather dumb if u ask me

[whole beacon]

[jolly agate]

Proof it doesn’t exist

[whole beacon]

Cha rah ychkal 3lik hada

[jolly agate]

The the whole characteristic of nothing-that it doesn’t exist

[formal scaffold]

I just interefered in his discussion since it didn't seem to end xD

[jolly agate]

Its a circle discussion

[whole beacon]

Wat is the true nothing than.

[formal scaffold]

sounds like you are describing a zero shape, zero results xd

[whole beacon]

Another circle to play with

[hushed bear]

Maria maria

Senorita Maria

[jolly agate]

exactly what that discussion was

also lack of evidence doesn’t imply something doesn’t exist.

[formal scaffold]

To break it down for you, there's no clear proof of god's existance or his non existance, therefore people discuss the signes of his existance or the counter arguments to that to build an idea on doubt that's where it won't be a circle discussion since the 2 sides might not be familiar with few arguments esp newbies who are part of an english learning server

[whole beacon]

As an agnostic i agree with skuggi

[jolly agate]

Should’ve said that in first place

[formal scaffold]

I did

you missed it anyways it don't matter

[jolly agate]

thats the matter of perspective,

signs can be seen as proof

anyway

[feral river]

Call me god

Lack of evidence doesn’t imply something doesn’t exist

I’m the supreme leader of the universe and the god which created everything

come Democratic People’s Republic of Korea and you will experience the sun is shining 24/7

[thorny steeple]

Am I only the only one with an European map sticked on the wardrobe

[fallow ridge]

#🔗｜bot-commands

[thorny steeple]

Neymar Land

[jolly agate]

because there is no proof against you being god doesn’t mean it’s automatically true, what is your evidence to back it up

I’m the creator who created you

we are in a loop now

[whole beacon]

I have a roman map.

[thorny steeple]

From what era?

[whole beacon]

The pax romana era.
40 AD

[thorny steeple]

Ave Augustus!

[woven stratus]

Harry Styles makes bad songs. (Argue with the wall)

[manic juniper]

Now you're expecting evidence? That's a double standard

[thorny steeple]

Those theological discussions on this server always end up with logical discussions

[thorny steeple]

Ye I agree with u

I listen metal,some rap music or balkans pop

[thorny steeple]

I reached what I'd consider as a basic fluency in English, yet I feel like the more I get exposed to the language, the more I realize I don't know much, there are always new expressions and words to learn

Does anyone else relate

[manic juniper]

Which metal subgenres

[thorny steeple]

00's

Death metal but nowadays Im listening chop suuey or motherload only

[manic juniper]

I was about to ask if it was Mastodon

[thorny steeple]

Yea

Motherload so I mean mastodon

[manic juniper]

Usually that's what comes to mind when it's early 00s

[thorny steeple]

Who listening this rock,everyone know these

[manic juniper]

I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to mainstream bands

[thorny steeple]

Me too

[manic juniper]

I think the most mainstream I listen to is Scar Symmetry and it's not mainstream enough

[thorny steeple]

Ye I dont know its

[rare blaze]

Same here brother

[thorny steeple]

People have bad stereotypes about Scandinavian Metal in Brazil

For them it's all Burzum

[manic juniper]

I only have bad stereotypes about Norwegian black metal

[thorny steeple]

Damn thats not good

So sometimes I surprised cuz scandinavians the best in the some topics

Cs,some song categories,education ,...

[hushed bear]

Huh

[thorny steeple]

It's all about Norwegians

My idea is same with norweigans btw :D cuz cs song really the best

Also, some people don't like Scandinavians in general because they promote loads of eugenic programs in the early 20th century

It'a bit uncovered and forgotten but they did

[warped tangle]

?def eugenic

[cursive bobcat]

Word: eugenic

Definition (null): pertaining to or causing improvement in the offspring produced

Definition requested by user_alto.

[thorny steeple]

"Eugenics (/juːˈdʒɛnɪks/ yoo-JEN-iks; from Ancient Greek εύ̃ (eû) 'good, well', and -γενής (genḗs) 'come into being, growing')[1] is a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population.[2][3][4] Historically, eugenicists have attempted to alter human gene pools by excluding people and groups judged to be inferior or promoting those judged to be superior."
This definition seems accurate

Basically loads of women were sterelized because they wanted to get rid of what they called "bad genes".

There was a trend going on Europe. It all "stopped" after WWII.

[warped tangle]

you mean that the era of war usual breaking out used to implement what is called eugenic?

[thorny steeple]

To be honest I dont care cuz only germany,bulgaria and turkey important for me

[manic juniper]

They targeted minorities rather than women with actual issues

Like Greenlandic, Sámi women

[formal pilot]

Dude isn't there is theory that we evolved from reptiles

[manic juniper]

It's outdated

[formal pilot]

@thorny steeple

[manic juniper]

It's from past taxonomy, like when we used to use paraphyletic definitions (like birds not being reptiles)

Today if you go by cladistics we never had reptile ancestors

[formal pilot]

Gotcha

[manic juniper]

yes they looked similar to early reptiles, but they also looked similar to salamanders

[formal pilot]

So according to cladistics birds are reptiles?

[manic juniper]

Some shapes, like crab, lizard and crocodile are recycled throughout history

[manic juniper]

Yes, unequivocally

If you look at phytosaurs and archegosaurs they both looked like crocodiles, even the mammal Ambulocetus did

[formal pilot]

Yeah they're the ogs, just like horseshoe crabs

[manic juniper]

Even the head shape of dinosaur predators was recycled from some distant relatives, not direct ancestors

[formal pilot]

I'm zoned out I can't digest birds are reptiles

[manic juniper]

Most dinosaur predators weren't even that closely related, they just kept evolving the same body plan and head shape

[formal pilot]

They've feathers

[manic juniper]

Once you watch enough modern reconstructions you'll start to see why

[manic juniper]

So did other dinosaurs

You know that pterosaurs aren't dinosaurs, right?

Well, recently they have discovered that it's likely pterosaurs had feathers too, and that feathers were inherited from the ancestors of both dinosaurs and pterosaurs

[formal pilot]

They look like bat bird thing to me

[bleak willow]

Pterossaurs were flying reptiles

[manic juniper]

They were a mix in features, the wings were muscular instead of being thin like those of bats

They also had air sacs in the wings themselves, birds don't have air sacs there, they're more limited

If you think bird morphology is absurd, you need to look into pterosaur adaptations

They make birds look normal in comparison

[bleak willow]

Cool thing about velociraptors is the ability they had to use their feathers and tail to attack from higher ground

[manic juniper]

No wonder pterosaurs had a much higher size restriction compared to birds

[formal pilot]

On my viva exam, examiner asked me
What's the difference between birds and reptiles

And i scored 100%

That's why I can't digest they're reptiles

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately that outdated definition is still the most popular especially at lower education levels

[bleak willow]

Have you guys watched that dinossaur tv show from apple tv?

[manic juniper]

Once you start to see that the majority of dinosaurs already were covered in feathers you'll see why birds are just another branch of dinosaurs and reptiles, and proof that reptile diversity is immense

[formal pilot]

@thorny steeple what's in your syllabus, birds and reptiles are different or same?

[manic juniper]

Prehistoric Planet? Absurdly good, nothing compares

Anyone that likes dinosaurs or prehistoric life should give it a try

[formal pilot]

I'm Android enjoyer sir

[manic juniper]

I watched both seasons

[bleak willow]

Jaw dropping series. I loved that scene with the t-rex swimming

[manic juniper]

No agag scroll up a bit

[formal pilot]

F our education system