🧠｜serious-chat

[hushed bear]

There isn't any single country who has ever messed with india about (wars) in the last 10 years

[dapper laurel]

I know this, I say India couldn't go to war with anyone at the moment, it wouldn't make sense. Also the Indian army is just large, it is not professional

[hushed bear]

China was our good friend
However they can't attack on india

[hushed bear]

It's professional as well

[feral river]

But our South Tibet is under your control

And we will have it back in the future? So we have several border conflicts

[dapper laurel]

To join the Indian Army you must be 170cm tall💀

[hushed bear]

What about pakistan and china? We had spat with them

[hushed bear]

I don't think our countries would fight

[feral river]

I don’t think too but that’s a big deal for us which is South Tibet

It’s a big issue, a Powder Keg

And the religious leader which is the current enemy of government of China is also in India

Dalai Lama

[hushed bear]

Damn

[formal pilot]

[hushed bear]

My phone got switched off

Wait a sec
Lemme reply everyone

I just restarted my phone lmao

[feral river]

Gonna sleep right now here is freaking 3:22 bye guys

Have a good night/day

[hushed bear]

It is
You might take it in a funny way

[hushed bear]

Doesn't really matter

What's your point? I didn't get

[hushed bear]

Gn and tc

[sour marlin]

Bro got the free nitro 😂

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[sour marlin]

Lmao 😂

[formal pilot]

You got any good topics to discuss?

[thorny steeple]

cheeseburgers

[hushed bear]

@formal pilot Congo

[hushed bear]

Huh

[sour marlin]

Not yet

[formal pilot]

Thanks man

[sour marlin]

But recently people have been talking about Iran's rocket playing

[hushed bear]

[cedar oar]

Let's discuss about who The Holy Land belongs to

[dapper laurel]

It's funny, 170cm is short

[hushed bear]

Lmao

[dapper laurel]

But I am sure that the Indian Army will become more professional in the future

[formal pilot]

Belongs to international museum

[dapper laurel]

Isn't it short?

[cedar oar]

Put Rome in there as well then

[formal pilot]

Yeah it was a retaliation attack

[whole beacon]

British international museum

[hushed bear]

Veryyyyy shortttt

[dapper laurel]

Holy land debate moment

[hushed bear]

[cedar oar]

Put all other land that is disputed in there

[dapper laurel]

I don't know what the average height is in India, but 170cm seems short

[sour marlin]

Am waiting for consequences

[cedar oar]

I support The Roman Empire! Free Rome!

[thorny steeple]

d:

[dapper laurel]

Free SPQR from Carthage

[formal pilot]

You're sadistic for sure

[cedar oar]

Free Carthage from the Phoenicians!

[dapper laurel]

Free Phoenicians from Arabs

[sour marlin]

Lmao
Not at all

Btw where is ur cat pfp

[formal pilot]

Is this profile bad?

[sour marlin]

It's not good to that extent

[cedar oar]

Free Muhammad from being a prophet!

[sour marlin]

Shut up and do not humiliate someone's religion

@whole beacon

[dapper laurel]

I was joking

[sour marlin]

These ppl are offensive

[sour marlin]

U Dont have this right to joke on my religion

[cedar oar]

My guy, it was satire

[slow storm]

Where r the mods now 😏

[sour marlin]

Yes

[dapper laurel]

He's right

[formal pilot]

I'll do something about it

[sour marlin]

Bring the cat PFP back

[dapper laurel]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻pls nooo

[whole beacon]

This jokes have no place here. Delete ur msgs.
Next time u'll be banned.

[dapper laurel]

I got it

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-better-call-saul-breaking-bad-satire-court-gif-25778568

[formal pilot]

It'll be back with more passion more energy

[whole beacon]

@cedar oar u too. Talk in serious matter , do not bring dark inappropriate humor.

[cedar oar]

Literally 1984

[slow storm]

Something related to x

[sour marlin]

Waiting

[formal pilot]

What

💀

Dude I've heard that hasbullah also did something

When Iran launched retaliation attack

[sour marlin]

Did what?

[cedar oar]

@spring zephyr, tell us, could we make no such jokes here?

[slow storm]

Ya hooo

[vestal grove]

small rockets to weaken the "iron dome"

[spring zephyr]

Allow yourself to explain, didnt get it.

[formal pilot]

Launched small rockets it's not authentic news tho

I got it from Twitter

[sour marlin]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

Such jokes

[cedar oar]

Basically, I and @dapper laurel were just having a satire sarcastic conversation, which involved me saying a joke that was considered offensive, though obviously sarcastic and satire

[formal pilot]

Yeah something like this

[sour marlin]

Seems to be fake

[vestal grove]

nah not fake
they did but like a very small number as if they did nothing

like not worth mentioning

[sour marlin]

Oh I see

[dapper laurel]

This reminds me of those situations where my bro and I have to justify ourselves for making a mess in class

[formal pilot]

What's your views on ww3

When will it happen?

[vestal grove]

no ww3
just a show

[cedar oar]

How did we make a mess for a joke, when other jokes such as these have been done in the past by others?

[gaunt bronze]

Hopefully never..!

[spring zephyr]

Those kind of jokes ain't approved, it goes against the server rules. It propagates blasphemy in a high-key way. Dont do that next time.

[formal pilot]

Can't agree more, it's illogical for major countries to start a war rn

[dapper laurel]

I don't know, maybe we e can't do jokes on minorities or stuff like this

[cedar oar]

Then please check the other channels as well, if that is not allowed

[formal pilot]

In future we might fight for food n water

[gaunt bronze]

Water wars would be scary.

[formal pilot]

But for now, it's all good

[gaunt bronze]

It's a problem for my country, actually.

[sour marlin]

Sounds funny

[dapper laurel]

But the moderator was right, I wouldn't like it if they made jokes about Christianity for example

[spring zephyr]

Feel free to provide if somethin like that is encountered.

[cedar oar]

I sure will

[gaunt bronze]

We have so much water but the country under us has a lot less water than us, but it's a lot more powerful, so they might try to 'help us' but end up abusing us for water..!

[vestal grove]

the porphet is not a "minority" watch what you say

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-gif-27465621

[formal pilot]

Only 3% of water is fresh and converting salt water into fresh water is expensive like silver

[gaunt bronze]

Isn't it already happening in Africa and other places like that?

[formal pilot]

Where do you live? I mean which continent?

[vestal grove]

africa has water 😭
they literally have rivers

[sour marlin]

Happily 95% of the water that is in my country is fresh water IG

[dapper laurel]

I wanted to say that Muslims can sometimes be discriminated against because they are a minority, I didn't mean to be offensive

[formal pilot]

95% of what?

[sour marlin]

Water

[gaunt bronze]

Canada! The U.S. has a lot less water but ofc it's incredibly strong (along with the fact that we're pinned to the U.S. economically and basically culturally), so it might use that to abuse Canada to get more water.

[thorny steeple]

minority?

[formal pilot]

Entire Earth has 3% fresh water, your country might be away from ocean

[gaunt bronze]

Either by promoting or engaging in Quebec separatism or western alienation, and attempting to 'help' Canada to deal with these problems.

[sour marlin]

I wouldn't want to share

[vestal grove]

any topic that has our prophet in it is very sensitive to us you can joke all you want just dont mention our prophet that we wont pass on

[gaunt bronze]

But inevitably, just use it to take our water (or through another method bc Canada is basically pinned to the U.S.).

[formal pilot]

Imagine starting a war for water just like oils

[dapper laurel]

👍🏻

[sour marlin]

I said 95% in my country
Like from all the water that is in our access

[gaunt bronze]

100% going to happen!

[sour marlin]

Only 5% of it is salty

[formal pilot]

I'll invade your backyard in future

[gaunt bronze]

Already there's like a conflict in Africa between Ethiopia and Egypt I believe??

[sour marlin]

I dare u do that

[vestal grove]

yes about the nile river

[sour marlin]

[gaunt bronze]

Egypt gets a lot of its water from the Nile (and electricity or something), but Ethiopia wants to build a hydroelectric dam which would block one of the Nile's main tributaries.

[vestal grove]

they already did but egypt told them that a specific amount of water should reach them everyday
if that amount is not reached in any day they will start a war

[formal pilot]

Send me location

[sour marlin]

U already have it

[formal pilot]

And bank account details for research purposes

[gaunt bronze]

Uh-oh...

[vestal grove]

los santos city, maze bank tower

[formal pilot]

No i don't

[sour marlin]

Screw ur memory

[formal pilot]

I'm sure china also wants freshwater sources

That's why it's capturing indian territories

[formal pilot]

Dude I've brain power of malnourished tadpole

@slow storm I'll smoke you lurker

What's that

[cedar oar]

Bill has a sense for lurkers

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[slow storm]

Hell nah 😏😅

[formal pilot]

I got 28 out of 100 in history

[cedar oar]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–2021_China–India_skirmishes

[sour marlin]

U don't

[cedar oar]

I can already heae them say, "Westeen propoganda"

[gaunt bronze]

A lot of Canada's water comes from the Great Lakes!

[formal pilot]

That's why I say globalism is a lolipop, powerful countries give to poor countries
Nationalism is best for survival

[cedar oar]

Your honour, I already sent that link. I call this copyright infringement!

[gaunt bronze]

Imo, nationalism isn't good.

[formal pilot]

You might changed your entire profile, that's why I can't recognise you

[dapper laurel]

Will nationalism be useful in the future?

[gaunt bronze]

Isn't it already useful??

[sour marlin]

I just changed "selenophile" to "Selena"

[cedar oar]

I call this nationalist propoganda

[gaunt bronze]

i feel like internationalism is generally better

[formal pilot]

Nationalism will give atleast some opportunities to people in terms of getting water and food

Globalism will only benifit rich elites

[dapper laurel]

It is useful now, but are we sure that it will be useful in the future? Think about it, in a world where resources are limited and the population is increasing, wouldn't it be helpful to join forces and focus on good for humanity

[formal pilot]

Dayamm you from my country

[sour marlin]

No bro....

[gaunt bronze]

Yea, but that's already happening...isn't it?

[formal pilot]

I've really bad memory

[dapper laurel]

It's a very slow process, but it could work, I hope there will be a Star Trek lore

[gaunt bronze]

But, internationalism could promote hegemonic conflicts and alliances, which creates even more conflicts...

Like, the U.S. hegemonic sphere v. the Chinese hegemonic sphere??

You can see that in the Israel Israel–Hamas War!

[gaunt bronze]

Or ummm, if you look at WWI or even WWII.

[dapper laurel]

In such an uncertain future, will there still be spheres of hegemony? Or will both poles fall into poverty and the only alternative they have to survive is to unite?

[formal pilot]

Nationalism is the way to go, globalism isn't sustainable

[gaunt bronze]

If there's no major war, like a WWIII, then hegemonic spheres will probably still exist.

[cedar oar]

That's what the monarchists said to the republicans

[gaunt bronze]

But in a case where there's poverty and whatever, having the whole globe unite would be a bad idea.

[formal pilot]

Exactly

[dapper laurel]

Thinking like this we will never evolve as humanity, soon our planet will not be enough for human beings, we must focus on the union and conquest of the planets and the universe

[gaunt bronze]

Why would you try to unite with the whole world if your own country, and the rest of the world basically, is poverty-stricken?

You would care for your own country's survival before any other countries; that's why you don't see Ethiopia or Somalia trying to unite and give humanitarian aid.

But they're internationalistic bc there's other countries which are incredibly successful that can help them, and have enough for themselves and plenty to give too!

[formal pilot]

We should embrace joint science programs, I'm down

[gaunt bronze]

That's my opinion only though.

[dapper laurel]

All countries will be in the same poverty situation soon, common problems unite

[formal pilot]

But globalism in general will only benifit the elites

[gaunt bronze]

Unless it's some major conflict, that seems super unlikely.

[thorny steeple]

what do you guys think about living in oceans

[sour marlin]

Told u, screw ur memory

[thorny steeple]

floating cities

[gaunt bronze]

scary and terrifying 😭

Things like that giant line saudi arabia wants to build seem so dystopian and stupid

like who would actually want to live there??

[thorny steeple]

but these are constantly moving

[formal pilot]

Imagine we've 10 pools of fresh water
Instead of dividing all the pools equally to all the countries

I'll go fight for the pool and take major portion

It'll increase my chances of survival

[gaunt bronze]

But if you're a country with a lot, it would make sense to sell some or share a bit of it.

For example, Canada has a lot of fresh water but barely any people, whereas the U.S. has a lot less than us but a lot more people, so it would make sense for Canada to sell or share it.

It would strengthen relationships (which has a lot of benefits), give money to Canada, etc.

[formal pilot]

Or hold it and sell it in more price

[hushed bear]

I'm already free my dear

[formal pilot]

Anyway my point is

[gaunt bronze]

Yea!!

[formal pilot]

If you're a poor in a country your chances of getting water is much higher than some who's poor globally

That's my point

[cedar oar]

Oh

[brave ledge]

hi

[thorny steeple]

hello my lord

[brave ledge]

nice pp

[thorny steeple]

nice arm movements

[brave ledge]

how you know

[hushed bear]

Although, thanks for the concern

[hushed bear]

It's 5'5

I think so

[gaunt bronze]

I'm half an inch taller than that ❤️‍🔥

[dapper laurel]

In cm?

Like 170?

[hushed bear]

Here we are talking about indians
As you can see

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/rte-gif-23623291

[hushed bear]

No
Feet

[dapper laurel]

How many is in centimeters I meant

[gaunt bronze]

That's like 167 cm

[dapper laurel]

Like 165/170?

[gaunt bronze]

Bc Im 5'5.5 and Im 169 cm

[hushed bear]

Approximately 165cm

[dapper laurel]

It's short I think

[hushed bear]

Probably

[dapper laurel]

I think my sister is tall like that

[hushed bear]

We indians don't care about height much

[hushed bear]

I said according to my guess

[dapper laurel]

I think it's just a question of nutrition

[hushed bear]

Lmao
Why

[gaunt bronze]

Yeaa developed countries have taller ppl

[hushed bear]

Always you go out of the blue

[gaunt bronze]

Which is y the average height is going up (in canada the average height is like 5'4 for a girl)

[dapper laurel]

Many Indians live in poverty and are malnourished, which is why they do not grow tall

These are just guesses

[hushed bear]

Ahem Ahem
We are in the 3rd largest gdp

[dapper laurel]

Yeah, but You are more than a billion, you should see the GDP per capita, not the nominal one

[gaunt bronze]

GDP isn't the same as GDP per capita

even if india has the 5th largest GDP

Plus even GDP doesnt account for other factors

Like the U.S. is #1 in GDP but canada has a higher HDI index

[dapper laurel]

And Germany is the third largest economy in the world, not India I think

[gaunt bronze]

and other countries have an even higher index with a lower GDP

What am I even yapping about 😭

[hushed bear]

All goes to black money
If we indians started resembling our black money then we will be the richest country in the world (without even counting the white money)
That kind of black money we have

[gaunt bronze]

Biggest unnecessary yapper 🔥 😭

[dapper laurel]

Bruh

[hushed bear]

Germany?

[hushed bear]

However i don't really like my country much

[gaunt bronze]

Wth is black money

[hushed bear]

Search on google

[dapper laurel]

I don't think Indians can be that rich, otherwise they wouldn't emigrate

[dapper laurel]

The money they don't declare when they pay taxes

[formal pilot]

Non taxed money= black money

[hushed bear]

That's a fact
We have the largest black money

[gaunt bronze]

Ohhh mb!!

[hushed bear]

You don't even know what black money is?

Are you a kid?

[gaunt bronze]

literally never heard that term in my life

i was thinking of something completely different when u said black/white money

[glad patio]

That seems a bit suspicious ngl

[gaunt bronze]

A teenager

[thorny steeple]

isnt that dirty money

[hushed bear]

It shows you're a kid

[gaunt bronze]

who has heard that term though 😭

ive heard laundered money but not black money

[glad patio]

Not me and I'm 20

[hushed bear]

Even 10 y/o kids know about black money

[gaunt bronze]

Add a 14 from me!!

[hushed bear]

Why
Lmao

[dapper laurel]

I'm a teen too broo

[formal pilot]

That term is only used in some countries mate, that's why some people don't have idea about black money

[hushed bear]

Lmao

Then what do they call it?

Unpaid taxes money?

😂😂

[gaunt bronze]

Ive never heard that idk

[gaunt bronze]

illegal income/dirty money ig

[dapper laurel]

No, bro, I didn't want to argue, I was just surprised to see another teen

[hushed bear]

Wow
Where are you from

[glad patio]

The first thought that came to my head was Black Market and you pay for things using money but because it's on the black market, it's called black money

[formal pilot]

Illegal money
Blood money
Unclean funds
Illegal gains

Depending on the country

[gaunt bronze]

canada

[gaunt bronze]

Ohhh

[dapper laurel]

Trudeau is majestic

[gaunt bronze]

Def dont want to start a debate here

Ik ur being sarcastic but still

[dapper laurel]

He could be a model

[formal pilot]

Only South Asian countries can make a relation between black = bad

[gaunt bronze]

So many ppl hate him

[formal pilot]

That's why they use the term black money in india

[gaunt bronze]

Oh

[hushed bear]

Lmao
I thought it's a global word

[dapper laurel]

I'm only referring to the physical appearance, he seems like a looksmaxer

[hushed bear]

Nice education bro 😂🥲

[hushed bear]

Ufff

[glad patio]

Nope haha

[hushed bear]

Could someone please give me a bo'owh'o'wo'er

[glad patio]

Where are you from? @hushed bear

[hushed bear]

Alright

[hushed bear]

You must know
After all you have read the chats (india)

[glad patio]

Bo'ul uhv wa'er

[gaunt bronze]

For noww

[glad patio]

I don't have a good memory of certain things

[gaunt bronze]

Once he's no longer p.m. ppl r gonna beat him up i swearr and then he wont be able to be a model-

[hushed bear]

I said that for you only (in an indirect way)

[hushed bear]

Lmao

British accent is so interesting

[glad patio]

Which one?

[hushed bear]

Rp

[glad patio]

aah

[onyx hazel]

Look, as far as I know, the only current branches of socialism that exist are: Leninism, Maoism, and Trotskyism. That's why what you're saying doesn't make sense

[glad patio]

Just a fun fact: Geordie (from the North East) is the oldest English accent

[hushed bear]

Hehe
I'm sorry if you felt bad
I was just kidding
But i tell you honestly - Sometimes i laugh at british accent

[hushed bear]

I see
Thanks for educating

[onyx hazel]

And I didn't jump to conclusions, your criticisms are the same as the Trotskyists. I don't pretend to be a Marxist-leninist, I am Marxist-leninist.

[glad patio]

I didn't haha dw, I'm not that sensitive

[formal pilot]

Liverpool for sure

[glad patio]

That's my 2nd personal favourite

[dapper laurel]

The Scottish accent is very funny too

[gaunt bronze]

Aren't there like a billion accents in the UK

[formal pilot]

Which one is at the top?

[glad patio]

Geordie

[gaunt bronze]

Idk any names besides umm idk the Queen's English

[glad patio]

There's 60

[gaunt bronze]

Almost a billion!!

[formal pilot]

What about Irish one??

[dapper laurel]

I've never heard an Irish accent, but I can only imagine

[glad patio]

Mackem, Tyke, Geordie, cockney, MLE, Mancunian. Those are the few I can think of

[formal pilot]

You haven't heard corner McGregor?? Dayamm

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-ronaldo-and-conor-mcgregor-laughing-awkward-smile-awkward-laugh-gif-18353402436801853282

[glad patio]

The Galway accent is sooo good

[cedar oar]

@manic juniper was completely correct about you

Here, I'll leave it at this

[formal pilot]

Dude wth is this, it sounds like a different language

[glad patio]

😂😂😂 It's really easy to understand after a while of hearing it but tbf I have trouble understanding it sometimes

[thorny steeple]

#🧠｜serious-chat message
Check out this post, @ Andosweher made a similar claim to one of yours.
Israel is only 73 years old. There are elderly Palestinians who have lived longer than this colonial occupation. The land remembers a far older story. To illustrate, I've attached a picture of an old Palestinian passport, predating the establishment of Israel. This passport helps demonstrate the prior existence of a Palestinian sovereignty.
Thus, Palestinians don't require any form of "citizenship." They have a fundamental entitlement to that land surpassing that of any Israeli.

Moreover, Israel detained over 1,200 Palestinians without charges or trials, a clear violation of their own laws. While there are other breaches, this case serves as a prominent example.

[cinder quartz]

Why does it say migration department?

[onyx hazel]

So? What is this?? 🤣

[cinder quartz]

2. Why are there letters in Hebrew 3) before the existence of Israel, Mandatory Judean Palestine was in its place, then why is the government of Palestine written in this document and not a mandate

[onyx hazel]

Even Elon Musk make compliments about China man, what are you talking about? So everybody who just say "that's not true" automatically becomes communist??

I don't know where did you see that people can't criticize about the government. A government can't please everybody

[thorny steeple]

As I mentioned in my reply to @ Andosweher, they committed massacres against civilians even before any war began.
In addition to that, the notion that they might kill you because you could potentially pose a threat to their personal or national security is not logically sound. Everyone has the capability to pose such a threat, yet we do not punish individuals based on what they could do but have not done.

The Israeli occupation have absolutely committed unspeakable crimes. They burned, raped, massacred civilians and children, mutilated, and tortured. Simply watch the video I included in my response to @ Andosweher, where Israeli soldiers openly admit to committing all of these crimes during the Tantura massacre.
How would you feel waking up as a child in terror, witnessing all these atrocities being committed against your family? Why would anyone wish this upon innocents?

[thorny steeple]

This appears to be a Jewish migration passport. At the top, you can see the words 'حكومة فلسطين' which translates to 'Government of Palestine', indicating Palestinian sovereignty.

[cinder quartz]

Palestine had no sovereignty in 1933 and was ruled by Great Britain

[thorny steeple]

You can also discern the date, which appears to be 1933 based on what I can see. However, long before the establishment of Israel and its international recognition.

[cinder quartz]

.

[thorny steeple]

We don't need to talk about China to prove that Western media spread propaganda

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-population-in-extreme-poverty?tab=chart&country=~CHN

[thorny steeple]

Surely was ruled by Great Britain, which later transferred the Palestine issue to the United Nations before the decision was made to allocate it to the Zionist Jews at that time. Nevertheless, there was a recognized Palestinian sovereignty that predates the British occupation. During that era, not only Palestine but also Egypt and several other Middle Eastern countries were under occupation.

[cinder quartz]

Before Great Britain there was the Ottoman Empire and there was no sovereign Palestine

[thorny steeple]

All of this occurred following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, which had been the predominant power in this region for a significant period.

[onyx hazel]

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

Idaho does exist, albeit as part of the United States. Similarly, Palestine existed under the Ottoman Empire. The defeat of this empire meant that Palestine was no longer under its control, not that it never existed.

[onyx hazel]

I answered him talking about the things I know about Marxism-Leninism. I just said I've never seen communists who aren't trotskyists criticizing China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos

Literally this situation

[cinder quartz]

The USA is a federal state, the Ottoman Empire is monarchical dictatorship where all subjects were absorbed and tried to be assimilated, all empires do this

You are comparing a subject of the federation and just a territory where certain people lived

[steel wave]

[thorny steeple]

"Palestine's ancient history spans thousands of years, with its crossroads location witnessing the rise and fall of empires, shaping world history. The Canaanites, Israelites, Semitics, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, and Byzantines all left their mark on the land. In addition to its historical significance, Palestine holds profound religious importance for Judaism, Christianity and Islam." [ State of Palestine - Wikipedia ]

[cinder quartz]

Further, I did not say that Palestine did not exist; after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in 1917-1918, the Ottoman Empire was divided and Palestine could not come to the Paris conference in 1920 and claim your territories

[cinder quartz]

Do you know that Wikipedia is written by ordinary people?

[thorny steeple]

How do you account for the unique cultural features of Palestine, such as the significance of olive trees? The historical evidence is undeniable—Palestine has existed for thousands of years, with a cultural legacy that predates any occupation or empire.

[cinder quartz]

Sometimes some facts from Wikipedia refute other facts from Wikipedia

[thorny steeple]

It's also being reviewed by as many people who read it.

[cinder quartz]

The Romans invented growing olives

[steel wave]

These guys receive the proofs for free but they want us to go really deeper

Next time we'll have to meet Xi Jinping to prove something

[onyx hazel]

Chill man, otherwise they'll say that you got paid by CCP

[thorny steeple]

Good, then you are also aware that historically, the Romans and Greeks referred to the land as Palestine.

[cinder quartz]

How do you know what they called this land? Are you 2500 years old?

Why have I not seen a single Palestinian document confirming the existence of an ancient Palestinian state?

[thorny steeple]

That's not an argument. This is called history. You should consider reading 'Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History' by Nur Masalha if you're interested in discovering the rich history of Palestine, especially considering your frustration with Wikipedia.

[thorny steeple]

What type of document would convince you of it?

[cinder quartz]

The Greeks and Romans were smart people, they loved to keep archives with documents, then if they really called this land Palestine, you can find me this document

[cinder quartz]

Ancient records and maps

[cinder quartz]

Sounds funny

4 thousand years ago there was no statehood in the world as such

There were large settlements near the Nile and Euphrates

Perhaps you meant the history of the people and not the history of the state

[thorny steeple]

It's important to note that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This is basic logic. Just because you haven't been presented with what you consider to be evidence, doesn't mean that evidence does not exist.

[cinder quartz]

Alright, but if you are talking about 4 thousand years of wonderful history, then at least something should be in the public domain

If I don't fight with you in any way, I just ask questions

For example: we know a lot about the history of the ancient Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, and we even go through this in school, because they left behind a lot and very important things

[thorny steeple]

At the time of writing that book, the land was recognized under the name of Palestine. The history of the region is deeply rooted in that region.
Do you know what does "Palestine" mean?

[cinder quartz]

When was this book written?

[thorny steeple]

2018, sorry I've been inaccurate about this one.

Just checked it out. It seemed obvious given the name.

[cinder quartz]

How does the book begin?

Like: at the very beginning, the first ancient settlements arose near the Sinai Peninsula....

[thorny steeple]

No worries. We're having a casual conversation, unless I observe any disrespectful attitude, I'm glad to engage.

[thorny steeple]

I'm not sure what is meant in this question. However, let's first address the question I arose, do you know what "Palestine" means?

[cinder quartz]

No

How does this translate?

From Arabic, Jewish?

[thorny steeple]

The name "Palestine" is believed to have been derived from the Philistines, an ancient people who settled along the southern coast of the region around the 12th century BCE.
During the Hellenistic and Roman periods, the term "Palestine" (or "Palaistinē" in Greek) was used to describe the area inhabited by various peoples, including Jews, Samaritans, Phoenicians, and others. The name gained prominence after the Roman conquest of the region in 63 BCE when it was incorporated into the Roman province of Judea.

Check out the following articles:
https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/hlps.2021.0270?journalCode=hlps
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/origin-of-quot-palestine-quot

The name Palestine has a long history of recognition, with ample historical evidence supporting its use and significance.

Regardless of the name used for the land, it does not change the fact that the people who inhabited it have experienced the impact of Zionist occupation.

This is the primary focus of my original post.

[cinder quartz]

"province of Judea" literally refers to the fact that many Jews lived there and Philistines consists of two Hebrew words, Philis which means attacker/besieged, and tine I forgot how it is translated

I looked at one article about this name

[thorny steeple]

That's inaccurate. The term "province of Judea" refers to the administrative region established by the Romans encompassing the territory historically associated with the Jewish kingdom of Judea. It was named after the tribe of Judah and the kingdom of Judah in ancient Israel. The name "Judea" does not specifically denote that "many Jews lived there," as the entire region was historically inhabited by various peoples, including Jews, Samaritans, and others.
Furthermore, the Hebrew word for attacker is "פוצץ" (pozez). The term "Philistines" does not translate to either attacker or besieged in Hebrew. The origin of the word "Philistines" is subject to historical debate, and scholars have explored various theories about its origin and linguistic roots.

Setting aside naming concerns, present-day Palestinians exhibit a significant genetic connection to the Canaanites, who are the indigenous people of the southern Levant region.

Here is a study demonstrating a strong genetic link between Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese, and Palestinians. Additionally, another study specifically focused on Palestinians supports this genetic connection.

If you raise concerns about the validity of these studies being retracted, it's worth noting that certain studies suggesting the indigenous nature of Palestinians have faced retractions due to political pressures from extremists.

This further supports my claim, although I recall having a similar discussion in the past. 🤔

[cinder quartz]

Phlishtim are truly an ancient people, but the name comes from Hebrew words "liflosh", which means to invade and "Plisha" which means invasion, but in Hebrew p and f are denoted by the same letter, So the people of Fhilistim became Philistim, and later by Philistins, that is invaders

[cinder quartz]

Palestinians have a really strong DNA connection with the Lebanese and Jordanians

[thorny steeple]

There is a clear distinction between the spelling and pronunciation of "Philistines" or "Philis" and "Plisha".

As well as the other terms you've put forth.

[cinder quartz]

I was wrong about the Hebrew words

Now I have corrected my mistakes

For 2 thousand years it is impossible to preserve the exact name

[thorny steeple]

No worries. I also made a mistake about the date of the book I cited. It's okay to retract errors when seeking the truth.

[cinder quartz]

Names often change throughout history due to the pronunciation of the peoples who lived there

[thorny steeple]

Agreed. It's not quite that extreme though. The word 'Misr' (Egypt) does indeed have ancient origins, dating back to the time of the ancient Egyptians who referred to their land as 'Mḥw'.

[cinder quartz]

Very often we use the name given by the occupiers, for example India (Bharat in Indian)

Japan

I don’t remember how Japan is in Japanese

[thorny steeple]

True. In Egypt, words such as "إسبتالية" are derived from the English occupation of Egypt. "إسبتالية" sounds very similar to "Hospital" in Arabic.

[cinder quartz]

What does this mean

Hospital too?

[thorny steeple]

Yes.

[cinder quartz]

Interesting

[onyx hazel]

日本
にほん
Nihon

[cinder quartz]

Thx

[thorny steeple]

Anyways, it's been great chatting with you @cinder quartz. Unfortunately, it's late here and I have an exam tomorrow, so I need to get some rest. Talk to you later. 👋

[cinder quartz]

There are a lot of Anglicisms in the Russian language (my native language), but no one occupied us

[cinder quartz]

Okay bb

[thorny steeple]

Can someone with a deep understanding explain what's happening in middle east (I'm talking about the Iran attack)

Why it happened, what can it cause.
I do understand Iran's geopolitics but my knowledge is quite broad.
I understand that Israel won't stay stay quiet and it can escalate, and other Arab groups must get involved on that (such as the Houtis or Hezbollah)

[formal scaffold]

I don't have deep understanding, but I claim that Iran is doing what we call here fireworks and ain't attacking or doing shit for this reasons:

• they not only announced the attack which is natural, but they "aired it live"
• their 2 missing missiles hit an area with Palestinas folks there which had just on Casuality which is a little girl (not sure of this info and it don't matter much)
• one thing to take into consideration, the west along with israel they always bark at Iran but the blows always land in other countries from middle east
• Iran is mostly Shias and their gov hate Sunnis more than they hate a poisonous rate
• after the west invasion on Iraq, and Syria the number of Shias there has skyrocketed

to put it simply and as a conclusion: the roman and Persian empires were defeated by Bedouins, this same Bedouins succeeded into making an empire that was advanced in all fields and was the Dominant force for centuries, then this same empires are taking revenge now along side with the current Iran, it'd be natural after establishing power in Europe after the two wars to secure the middle east then tackle on Russia and north Korea and maybe China, Israel/ Iran/ Iraq are for now the representants of the US, America isn't pumping shit ton of money to Israel for nothing, they want to use this countries instead of stepping in and losing soldiers like they did in Iraq.

[steel wave]

If South Korea didn't exist, none of this would have happened

[onyx hazel]

Fr, stand with the real kpop 🇰🇵 🫡

[thorny steeple]

Shithole that mental disordered people supports

[manic juniper]

? They don't have nuclear weapons

[onyx hazel]

They're still koreans

[thorny steeple]

They should be freed from that, everyone who escapes from that country tells about the horrors inside it. Imagine supporting a place where its dictator cannot even tell what its people eat on breakfast

.socialism is democratic
.no one under the regine wants it, lets modernize, socialism is over
.you shall stay silent, I will kill you if you say smth

[onyx hazel]

Something

[thorny steeple]

I was imitating any socialist leader bruh

I did not say it

[steel wave]

Yes, they are a just a colony of usa

[thorny steeple]

Tito is the only legitim socialist. Any other is shit

[manic juniper]

Whataboutism

[steel wave]

wow

[manic juniper]

Wtf

[magic prawn]

anyone up for a vc regardless the topic, add me, English practicing

[thorny steeple]

There are several people in the vc rooms bruh,

[thorny steeple]

I think he's not trying to do a "whataboutism". The're trying to say that North Korea isn't too much different from other countries.

• North Korea is a country embargoed and completely blockaded by the United States. They are still at war today, so crossing the border is a crime, both from the South to the North and vice versa. When a Korean arrives in the South, he has two choices: to be arrested or to accept payment to criticize North Korea. The famous video of the soldier trying to cross the North Korean border is a normal video because any soldier who tries to cross a border or flee would be punished in any country, especially in a country at war, like the two Koreas. In the United States, they don't welcome you very well if you reach their border.

• The vast majority of the famous refugees are paid by South Korea to lie about the North; an example of this is 'Yeomni Park', whose own mother admitted to lying about her daughter.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkegD7V9E6g&list=PLANsR3t9IHuBY6iMh0oNCATxrIfW9IG1y&index=9
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmzSGnWjvrg
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2SOGt3XIdc

• When Korea was just one country, they elected a socialist government, which had the contribution of the Soviet Union that had expelled the Japanese from the country. However, the United States arrived later in the South, even bringing the Japanese back. The United States killed over 3 million Koreans in a country of 8 million, destroying everything in North Korea; they dropped far more bombs than in World War II, leaving the country practically flat and destroyed, similar to what happened in Vietnam.

• North Korea is the country most threatened by the United States today. The United States has military bases in Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines, aimed at China and North Korea.

• North Korea invests heavily in military forces because, saying it again: they are at war. North Korea is not the only one investing in this. They had to develop a nuclear bomb to protect themselves from all this because South Korea threatens to annex the North, so they need to be prepared for that. Any country tries to defend itself if it is threatened or attacked.

• A Russian living in North Korea proves that most of the news about North Korea are lies because she lives there.
  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kisa_inkorea/

This is not whataboutism, it's saying that the United States doesn't do things much differently from the country, in fact, they do it on a much larger scale.

[onyx hazel]

O_o

Bro

[manic juniper]

I don't know what all those links and explanations are for, I just said that it's strange for a poor country to invest so much in nuclear weaponry development when they signed the Panmunjom declaration. Belarus invests more in agriculture and development than North Korea does

[onyx hazel]

@thorny steeple I think you misunderstood them

[thorny steeple]

Oh I see. They're poor due to the embargoes

[manic juniper]

My country also wastes a lot of funds on the military, I think it could be smarter and an economist even demonstrated it. I get if a country like Ukraine does it because they've been invaded for real, but the threat of invasion isn't evident in North Korea

[onyx hazel]

If I'm not mistaken, the geography of North Korea isn't that good

They struggle with it

[manic juniper]

I don't think South Korea would like to have control of a much poorer country

So why even waste so many funds on the military to begin with

[thorny steeple]

They don't have control over North Korea, USA does

[manic juniper]

USA's interests seem to have moved to the Middle East, did they do anything significant in North Korea recently?

[thorny steeple]

South Korea has USA helps, and USA is the most powerful country in the military world, so they need to invest on military stuffs

[thorny steeple]

Well, they often slander North Korea, and both countries are still in war

North Korea isn't the only one investing on military

[manic juniper]

It's the one that invests so much, it's ultimately useless like the Soviet Union also did

[manic juniper]

Slander isn't really military action isn't it

[onyx hazel]

Not to mention, Us has a lot of military bases on Asia

Idk if I'm right

[thorny steeple]

Yes, I mentioned it on my text...

[thorny steeple]

I think USSR is other different case because they were the most invaded country in WW2, so they needed to do it

But actually all of the socialists countries nowadays have USA embargoes and threats

[thorny steeple]

I know, I'm just trying to affirm my point: They're often threatened, so they need to defend themselves against it

[manic juniper]

Wouldn't that be Eritrea, Etiopia or Somalia? Or maybe Finland or Poland

[manic juniper]

No they don't lol, Vietnam has no embargo

It had one until the mid 90s

[grave temple]

North Korea was given a chance by the United Nations to give up its nuclear weapons in exchange for dropping the embargoes. They choose not to.

[thorny steeple]

just recently: https://vietnamnews.vn/politics-laws/1650198/lifting-of-trade-embargo-paved-the-way-for-terrific-viet-nam-us-advances.html

[grave temple]

Currently the regime is being fed through a tube by China.

China supports the current regime as it provides a buffer zone between South Korea, a US ally.

[manic juniper]

It was 30 years ago

[grave temple]

It is basically giving free food/ressources to the starving country.

[thorny steeple]

Do you know why? Trump once went to North Korea promising to stop embargoes as long as North Korea stopped missile testing. North Korea had stopped, but the USA still did not lift the embargoes

[grave temple]

Saying that all news about North Korea are lies and basing it on a woman living there has to be the most horrible argument ever

[thorny steeple]

Horrible? Her mother admitted it

[grave temple]

Incorrect. North Korea didn't stop its missile testing. And Donald Trump wanted them to hand over their nukes, not missile tests.

[manic juniper]

"Việt Nam has become the eighth largest trading partner of the US globally and the largest trading partner of the US in ASEAN. Meanwhile, the US is the second-largest trading partner and the largest export market for Việt Nam."

[grave temple]

Kim refused, the embargo remains.

[grave temple]

Still doesn't support anything.

[manic juniper]

Idk there were hint of Russia escalating the invasion of Ukraine in 2014, meanwhile nothing tangible happened between North Korea and South Korea since the end of the Cold War if not earlier

[grave temple]

For all we know, they could be in the pockets of the Kim regime. North Koreans aren't allowed on Internet either way and information about the country is restricted. Basing your sources on someone who uses internet and saying everything about the country is false is the biggest red flag I've ever seen.

[manic juniper]

Feels like their politicians are being uselessly paranoid or are just incompetent when it comes to having a proper military, much like my country (but much worse in their case)

[thorny steeple]

No. These countries were invaded by Nazi Germany, while USSR was attacked by capitalists forces, such as troops from France, The UK, the US and Japan.

[grave temple]

Anyways, the Chinese know what North Korea is really like. They are allowed to board buses into North Korea but not get off. They can look at across the border through binoculars.

[manic juniper]

France?

[grave temple]

In China, the Chinese compare North Korea as a "medieval/ancient, poor and underdevelopped country."

[manic juniper]

France invaded the USSR?

[grave temple]

No what

[grave temple]

Ok bro what

Nah this guy is trolling fr

[thorny steeple]

So how can a Russian post things being in North Korea on Instagram??

[grave temple]

Exactly. It doesn't make sense. The only reason would be it is false and run/supported by North Korea.

[manic juniper]

Maybe if the USSR hadn't occupied much of those countries on the western border like one Finnish region, the three Baltic countries and half of Poland they wouldn't have been invaded so easily

[onyx hazel]

Yes, but this is something you'll never heard because revisionism of USSR is too much strong

[grave temple]

Please learn history before saying false stuff 🙏

[manic juniper]

Expanding so quickly means that you cannot strengthen your borders properly

[grave temple]

Only Japan went to war against the USSR after the USSR invaded Manchuria.

[grave temple]

No they didn't.

[onyx hazel]

Yo what?? 🤣🤣🤣

[grave temple]

The French, Napoleon's army invaded the Russian Empire. Long before the existence of USSR.

In the 1800s.

[manic juniper]

A country that barely existed as independent invaded another? It sounds like alternate history

[grave temple]

Did I stutter?

[onyx hazel]

USSR was invaded when it was founded

[manic juniper]

By France?

[onyx hazel]

Capitalists countries don't let socialists countries in Peace, that's obvious

[grave temple]

Please share sources of French forces deliberately invaded/step foot into the USSR.

🙏

[manic juniper]

? No one invaded our country when we used to be socialist

[grave temple]

The opposite could be said too.

[manic juniper]

Instead we got occupied and invaded twice after dropping socialism

[onyx hazel]

How can you prove that a random Russian was paid by the government?? You really took these sources from your mind

[grave temple]

The USSR invaded and implemented puppet governements in Eastern Europe. One notable example is Poland.

[manic juniper]

They also annexed our second largest city and caused the decline of Karelian language and culture

And caused a refugee crisis that hurt our country for a long time

[onyx hazel]

Germany attacked them

[manic juniper]

Imagine having 400k refugees in a country that doesn't have 6 millions inhabitants to this day, they are a lot

[grave temple]

USSR did a lot of wrong things.

[onyx hazel]

U.S did nothing

[grave temple]

Holodomor is one example of a Soviet crime.

[grave temple]

Please learn your history 🙏

[onyx hazel]

Holodomor is climate and boycott cause

[manic juniper]

USSR staged a false flag attack to justify invading our country when no one wanted to help us

[grave temple]

World War 2 started with the invasion of Poland by Germany and the USSR.

They spilt the country half-half.

Saying Socialist countries never were the aggressors is a grave mistake.

[onyx hazel]

Ok, so according to you, they didn't attack them

Germany didn't want to annex other countries right?

[manic juniper]

Yes, along USSR

[grave temple]

If you are saying that the Polish attacked USSR, there is no point in continuing this conversation.

[manic juniper]

In the end Germany lost and became smaller, the USSR won and annexed many countries and regions

[onyx hazel]

No, man, I'm not saying it. You're saying that Germany didn't annex them

[fervent lichen]

sup

[manic juniper]

It's whataboutism, we are talking about the USSR

[grave temple]

@manic juniper The truth has no defense against fools determined to believe a lie.

He doesn't even know how WW2 started.

[manic juniper]

One wrong doesn't justify another

[onyx hazel]

And you're making moral panic instead of doing arguments

[grave temple]

Talking to this person is only is a waste of time.

[onyx hazel]

See? Moral panic

[thorny steeple]

WW2 started by Nazi Germany, they wanted to take revenge because they lost the WW1

[grave temple]

You won't belittle me with personal insults. Talking to you was a great waste of time. Good day/night. Wherever you are.

[manic juniper]

If this isn't imperialism then I don't know what it is

[grave temple]

This guy is saying the USSR didn't partake in the invasion of Poland.

[thorny steeple]

Well, the Germans attacked first, and then the USSR made a counter attack

[onyx hazel]

?

[manic juniper]

Why did they annex part of Finland if Germany didn't support us back then?

If I want to counterattack someone I don't just punch somebody else in the same room

[grave temple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland 🙏 Please learn about history before making false statements. You are only embarassing yourself.

[thorny steeple]

Wikipedia is questionable

[onyx hazel]

Wikipedia 💀

[grave temple]

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/invasion-poland-september-1939#:~:text=Soviet Invasion of Poland,4%2C736 tanks%2C and 3%2C300 aircraft.

[manic juniper]

Yeah let's doubt the existence of Molotov-Ribbentrop I guess

[grave temple]

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/soviet-union-invades-poland

[onyx hazel]

Check the methology of the sources

[grave temple]

https://enrs.eu/news/soviet-invasion-of-poland

If you refute History.com, good luck in your future endeavours.

[onyx hazel]

Why are you sending me this??

[manic juniper]

Can someone here justify the annexation of Karelia and Viipuri?

Or was it justified

[onyx hazel]

Yes, but the majority of the countries nowadays are capitalist, same happens in WW2, so they had so much power.

[onyx hazel]

I don't know where did I say it. I said that Germany invaded them

[thorny steeple]

No, wrong. The main country that Germany wanted to attack and destroy was USSR. The USSR was expelling the Japanese from Korea

[onyx hazel]

The conversation changed from North Korea to WW2 wtf

[manic juniper]

I guess it can't be justified : D

[grave temple]

My statement still stands. After the invasion of Manchuria by the USSR, Japan was in the state of war against the Soviets.

[thorny steeple]

I'm not justiying it

[grave temple]

You said Socialists were never the aggressors, always the victim.

[onyx hazel]

bro... Try to find where I said this

[grave temple]

I showed you proof of the opposite and you said it was only the Germans that did.

[manic juniper]

If they are aggressors and imperialists then I don't see how they can be better than their capitalist counterparts

[onyx hazel]

I said that the Germans invaded first, but you denied it

I don't know if you're saying that the Germans did nothing

[grave temple]

Please find the message which I said that.

[manic juniper]

Maybe had they helped the socialists in our country when they needed it the most it wouldn't be capitalist today ¯_(ツ)_/¯ oh too late

[onyx hazel]

You asked me to "learn history" which seems you denied it

It kinda means that I'm wrong about Germany

[grave temple]

@onyx hazel here is the message which you state that capitalists always attack/aggress socialist countries

[onyx hazel]

Yes, so?

I'm not saying that they're not aggressors

I'm saying that they're are the main aim of the capitalists countries, it's obvious because they're majority

[grave temple]

@onyx hazel this is your message which you state that the Soviets were the victims of foreign aggression

[manic juniper]

So if they weren't they'd be even?

[grave temple]

No I didn't. I previously stated that the Germans weren't the only ones that invaded Poland. The Soviets also joined in.

[onyx hazel]

"victims" makes a bad interpretation of my text. I said that they were attacked, just it

[grave temple]

You are wrong about Germany.

[onyx hazel]

Where did you do it?

[grave temple]

Please don't play with words. Aren't victims attacked? If they aren't attacked, wouldn't they be victims of an attack?

[onyx hazel]

You talked about Napoleon, which has nothing to do with I was talking about

[grave temple]

here is the statement i've previously said.

[grave temple]

It does. The last time the Russian mainland was invaded was by Napoleon's army.

[onyx hazel]

This is very idealistic, but answering, if they weren't, they maybe exist until today

[grave temple]

Nobody invaded the USSR before the Nazis did during Operation Barbarossa.

And that occured in 1941 long after the state of USSR was founded.

[onyx hazel]

But I was talking about when USSR was founded

[onyx hazel]

So how can you explain the 20 millions Soviet soldiers killed?

[grave temple]

That happened because of Operation Barbarossa broski

Omg this dude

Insists that countries invaded the USSR when it was founded.

[manic juniper]

Why so many were sent to die just to annex a region of our country when it was neutral?

[grave temple]

Foreign aggression.

[thorny steeple]

Sorry, I don't get it. As I said, the existence of the socialists countries were a threat to capitalist countries

[grave temple]

The Soviets were aggressors during WW2 regardless of their involvement in the defeat of Nazi Germany.

[onyx hazel]

How so "went to die"?

They literally didn't have choice otherwise defend themselves against the Germans

[grave temple]

Invasion of Finland, a neutral country by the USSR.

1 million dead.

[manic juniper]

This doesn't have to do with what I said at all, why did a socialist country invade a capitalist one?

[manic juniper]

Read again, we were neutral, no one supported us back then. It was Finland vs USSR, no one else involved

Not Germany, not UK, literally no one

[grave temple]

No offense to that guy, he seriously lacks general and overall knowledge of the 20th century.

[manic juniper]

I think they are trying to answer the question in general

[thorny steeple]

The soviets made a counter attack, because the countries were already occupied by Germany

[grave temple]

No, he rejected the existence of the ribbentrop molotov treaty, holodomor, etc...

[manic juniper]

Our country wasn't occupied by Germany

[grave temple]

Finland was a neutral country

[manic juniper]

I don't understand why you're confusing Finland with other countries or making up stuff

[onyx hazel]

They were

[steel wave]

It's really terrible what the us did to them

[summer parcel]

an yeong haseyo

what is the topic

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

Russia was attacked by imperialist powers during the revolutionary process

• Western intervention in the Russian Civil War
https://www.britannica.com/event/Russian-Civil-War/Foreign-intervention

If you don't want to check this source, you can simply google: "Allied intervention in Russia 1918-1920"

[upbeat mountain]

Hi

[sour marlin]

Ur banner is haram

[summer parcel]

no idea what haram means but

yes its haram

[sour marlin]

Bahaha

It means taboo

[summer parcel]

why is flying taboo

[sour marlin]

Something that is illegal "from religion aspects"

[summer parcel]

i fly all the time

[sour marlin]

Just kidding since there are two people

[summer parcel]

using plane of course

[sour marlin]

With different genders

[summer parcel]

cus im not god

[sour marlin]

Everyone does

[sour marlin]

God can fly?

[summer parcel]

no helicopter

spaceship

glider

[summer parcel]

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[sour marlin]

Then he has wings?

Like birds

[summer parcel]

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[formal pilot]

They're married

[summer parcel]

chnage it

[summer parcel]

flying is haram

[sour marlin]

Do u believe in him?

[sour marlin]

Any Proof?

[summer parcel]

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[summer parcel]

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they married

[sour marlin]

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In god

[summer parcel]

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[sour marlin]

Fr?
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[formal pilot]

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[summer parcel]

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[formal pilot]

Do you believe?

[summer parcel]

u got to change it quick

[sour marlin]

I do

[formal pilot]

Eventually nepolean cat will arrive, we need to wait

[sour marlin]

Hmm can I ask a question further?

[summer parcel]

what

[sour marlin]

What do u believe what happens after we die?

[summer parcel]

we go to other realm

we mostly chinese believe in afterlife

[sour marlin]

I do too

[summer parcel]

thats why we make offering to ancestors

and burn incense to honor

[sour marlin]

Ur ancestors can Help u?

[summer parcel]

idk

mostly for respect

without them there isnt you

[sour marlin]

I see

Do u believe In hell or heaven?

[formal pilot]

Out consciousness die and we get decomposed

[sour marlin]

And

The journey ends?

[formal pilot]

Indeed journey ends

Afterlife is for people who can't accept the fact that's there's an end

[sour marlin]

Then why do we live?

[summer parcel]

very thoughtful words

[sour marlin]

What's the purpose of life?

[summer parcel]

magic

we are in matrix

we have to escape

[sour marlin]

Don't be delusional please

Who created us then?

Why created us when there is nothing at the end?

[summer parcel]

my mama and my papa

[thorny steeple]

I'd prefer to be surprised that i found literally nothing after death than found a hell waiting for me

[sour marlin]

I mean who created Adam and eve

[formal pilot]

Who created the creator when there was nothing?

[thorny steeple]

[summer parcel]

because they want child

[sour marlin]

Lmfao

[sour marlin]

U won't get tht brother

[formal pilot]

If there's a hell, I'll definitely in it

[summer parcel]

💀

[sour marlin]

If the creator be created then what makes him different than his creation?

[summer parcel]

wishing ill to ur enemies i see

[sour marlin]

Be serious please

[summer parcel]

i am serious

[formal pilot]

But Punishment in the absence of behavior-modification is just sadism and sadistic torture can not be meted out by a benevolent being

[summer parcel]

my mama and my papa one day decided they want continue bloodline

and want a child boom here i am

[thorny steeple]

yes that's what im saying, save your ass, because religions ain't telling you to be something bad it just put a fuckin propose of your existence

[summer parcel]

simple as that

idk why u arguing nothing complicated

[sour marlin]

What if there is a behavior modification but u don't accept it?

[formal pilot]

Kafirs will burn in hell for eternity, there's nothing like behavioral modifications

[summer parcel]

what religion are u

which god/gods do u believe in

[formal pilot]

I can sence islam

[sour marlin]

Hmmm

[summer parcel]

oh islam

[sour marlin]

We don't know about that

[sour marlin]

I'm monotheist

[thorny steeple]

if we talked about stealing, which no religion is allowing, you as an atheist will think, nah there's no god i can freely steal, but us, i believe there's a hell waiting for me so i don't, so which is actually more dangerous for the world?

[summer parcel]

our gvt doesnt like islam

[formal pilot]

Hell na

It's really good religion

[summer parcel]

idk

[sour marlin]

There are organization funded by western countries called "terrorists" not the Islam itself

[summer parcel]

i dont even understand

[formal pilot]

If someone needs fear of God to do good things, deep down he isn't a good person, he's just a feared individual

[summer parcel]

why not believe ur god in peace

[sour marlin]

When u don't know any why still commenting?

[summer parcel]

hey fuck you

this isnt your channel

u dont own this server

i say what i want

[thorny steeple]

that's the idea of religion bro, everyone likes to do sins, and religion is here to tell you don't

[sour marlin]

But u r commenting about my religion

Behave urself kid

[summer parcel]

what comment

[sour marlin]

True

[summer parcel]

see disrespectful

[formal pilot]

Yup religion played a huge role in our evolution

[summer parcel]

you try to put ur fat fingers everywhere

[sour marlin]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[summer parcel]

saying oh no this haram that haram

mind u business and shut up

[thorny steeple]

okay i recommend you do some research before judging due to a propaganda

[thorny steeple]

so?

[formal pilot]

She's my friend and she was just having fun

[summer parcel]

what propaganda

[sour marlin]

U first

U Don't know anything

[thorny steeple]

that islam allow terrorism

[thorny steeple]

keep it respectful

[summer parcel]

and you know all the knowledge in the universe

[thorny steeple]

keep it respectful and civilized

[summer parcel]

please enlight me

[sour marlin]

He isn't

[summer parcel]

speaking for yourself

[sour marlin]

No
Yet I don't judge anyone

[thorny steeple]

no need to be like that, if you wanna get into a small conversation about that i don't mind

[formal pilot]

But it isn't rational, anyway if you believe in it there's nothing wrong

[summer parcel]

yes you did

[summer parcel]

u say its haram because of a banner

[sour marlin]

I was kidding with him

[summer parcel]

i looked up what haram means

[sour marlin]

Why while I'm not talking to u, u still involve urself?

[summer parcel]

u saying he wont go to "heaven" because of woman banner

[formal pilot]

Dude she's my friend, we were having a fun, nothing more

[summer parcel]

sorry but this free space

i talk where i want

[thorny steeple]

i know you don't have a problem with me, and neither do I. but I'm just trying to understand, why do you think religion is not "rational"

[sour marlin]

I never said that

[formal pilot]

@sour marlin @thorny steeple he's trolling

[sour marlin]

Be respectful or don't talk to me at all

[thorny steeple]

doesn't look like but okay

[summer parcel]

like ur respectful

[summer parcel]

haram is illegal in ur religion

[sour marlin]

He ain't

[summer parcel]

and if u doing haram u going to hell

i searched it up

[sour marlin]

I tried to be but seems like u don't like it

[thorny steeple]

who tf told you that 😭

[sour marlin]

Who says?

I never mentioned my religion laws

[formal pilot]

[summer parcel]

search engine

[formal pilot]

Here we go again

[summer parcel]

please dont ttreat me like fool

[summer parcel]

telling me shut up is real respectful of you

[sour marlin]

If I'm searching for an info I'll search in the Muslim's holy book called "Quran" why would I rely on Google

[formal pilot]

Haram is fixable crime

[summer parcel]

i bow down and thank you

[sour marlin]

U Said f u first

[summer parcel]

and kiss ur feet while u spit on my head

[sour marlin]

I'm out it's so nonsense

[summer parcel]

are u dementia

[formal pilot]

Lmao blud mixed hinduism and islam and Judaism

[summer parcel]

because it seems like it

[summer parcel]

its expression

saying im kissing ur feet while u spit on head

[thorny steeple]

@summer parcel
i have a good solution for you, i mean you're totally free to think whatever, but at least try when you get a false info and someone tells you it is, try to hear him out, if you feel like nah that doesn't make sense so it's fine you still free to believe what you want, fine?

[sour marlin]

@small bolt here

[summer parcel]

she didnt even say whatever i said is false or anything

[thorny steeple]

don't just walk around saying misinformation about religion

[summer parcel]

or correct

she just say im saying bullshit and tell me to shut up

[thorny steeple]

@sour marlin
shut the fuck up

[thorny steeple]

@summer parcel
fine now?

[summer parcel]

im saying what i know

if im wrong please correct

no harm intened

[small bolt]

What is going on here?

[sour marlin]

What did I do

[thorny steeple]

I'm totally okay with that, what do you think about islam?

[summer parcel]

in china our knowledge on islam is very limited

[formal pilot]

Religious conflict

[thorny steeple]

just shut 😭

[summer parcel]

we just get infomation on xinjiang

thats all

[sour marlin]

@small bolt read from here

[sour marlin]

Ok

[summer parcel]

neutral i dont hate nor like islam

but tv say terrorists in xinjiang

2014 xinjiang attack

[thorny steeple]

i mean, of course you think islam is a terrorist religion because people always say that, but have you ever like tried to seek some real information?

[summer parcel]

search it up

[summer parcel]

with what

[small bolt]

I’ll ask u politely to apologize for what u just said, u cannot say that about any religion in here, or u’ll be muted for spreading hate speach calling muslims terrorists or whatever…

[summer parcel]

ok but i didnt know but she insulted me too

and made religion joke too

[small bolt]

If someone insulted u, u can just report, not hating on a whole religion!

[small bolt]

Where

[summer parcel]

saying something is haram when its not

throwing religious terms around

[small bolt]

This is not a joke my man…

[sour marlin]

I was kidding with awesome

[summer parcel]

like its ajoke

[formal pilot]

I can confirm

[sour marlin]

I told him his banner is haram

[small bolt]

Again… i’ll ask u to appologize for what u just said about other’s religion @summer parcel

[sour marlin]

I'm losing my mind

[formal pilot]

Damnn you got mind?? I thought you were a gal

[shut iris]

Remember that if you insult, you lose the debate automatically

[summer parcel]

i also demand apology from her for insulting me

[shut iris]

Traditional debating etiquette

[sour marlin]

No I lost my mind already

[thorny steeple]

i did and actually nothing says it was muslims, it was just a region that has a lot of Muslim population, I'm hearing you out if you have any proof that muslims did that, and if they did, why do you suddenly decide that it's Islam's fault, not people? right? because actually nothing in Islam says wear a fuckin belt and destroy some innocents to go to heaven

[small bolt]

Saying smth haram is not a joke or making fun of ur religion..

[summer parcel]

she said i didnt no shit and i should shut up and go away

[thorny steeple]

so when someone does, it's up to him, not the religion, do I make sense?

[sour marlin]

His debate was based on insults

[small bolt]

U insulted a whole religion and u should appologize about it

[summer parcel]

we didnt debate on anything

[thorny steeple]

@sour marlin
how to use مسواك 😭

[formal pilot]

Put it in

[sour marlin]

What u don't know?

[small bolt]

Okay, she insulted u, u could have reported, not insulting islam

[sour marlin]

Apply toothpaste on it then put in ur mouth then brush ur teeth

[summer parcel]

so this is one way street

[thorny steeple]

nah it's my first time to use it

[summer parcel]

so next time if someone insult my country i can pull out insults

[formal pilot]

And damage your enamel

[thorny steeple]

i tried 😭

[summer parcel]

okay thanks for clairyfying

[thorny steeple]

okay thanks

[small bolt]

U can report the person, not insulting his whole religion!

Also provide me with evidence

Of what u said

[summer parcel]

ok ill insult them next time

[sour marlin]

Then ur teeth must be so yellow 🟡

[summer parcel]

ig its alright then

[small bolt]

I did see u insulting islam

Wherw is them insulting ur religion as u said?

[thorny steeple]

i do toothbrush wtah

[formal pilot]

Naturally teeths are yellowish white

[sour marlin]

U talking about this right?

[thorny steeple]

yeah

[small bolt]

It seems like u don’t get it, u insulted a whole religion calling it terrorist ..
one thing to be clear, wether u appologize or i’m taking action

[thorny steeple]

it's still not hairy like that wtf

[sour marlin]

I think u should clean ur teeth with the top of this stick

[thorny steeple]

mf I know 💀

[sour marlin]

Lmao 😂 Yeah ik

[sour marlin]

Then why asking meeh?

[thorny steeple]

oh it is now

[summer parcel]

i am sorry for not knowing enough about a religion and saying what i hear on tv

good enough?

[formal pilot]

Sir I've a small suggestion He's a result of Chinese propaganda, we should teach him about the real religion, instead of taking big actions

[summer parcel]

or do i need to also kiss your feet and let u spit on my head

[thorny steeple]

Because i didn't know i should bite it and remove peel

[small bolt]

Well that’s not sorry for saying that about religion..

[thorny steeple]

💀

[sour marlin]

Wtf
And I didn't know u r that much noob

[formal pilot]

Bite to make it softer then use it like brush

[small bolt]

And one advice.. u can work ur mind and stop listening to the media and search things up urself..

[sour marlin]

I just told u how to use it

[summer parcel]

i apologized what more do you want

[small bolt]

No it’s not

[thorny steeple]

it worked now shut

[summer parcel]

you are pushing it

[small bolt]

No u didn’t

[summer parcel]

i apologized

[sour marlin]

Why using this stick tho?

[thorny steeple]

yeah i thought i just need to put it in my mouth and it will be hairy 😭

[small bolt]

I’m not ur the one playing around

[summer parcel]

please reread previous message

[sour marlin]

Use brush

[thorny steeple]

sunah

[formal pilot]

Sound sus out of context

[thorny steeple]

wtf

[small bolt]

U should be sorry saying what u said and appologize for saying it.

[summer parcel]

i did

[thorny steeple]

it's okay neo

[small bolt]

Seems like ur a troll

It’s the last warning

[summer parcel]

its an expression in my language

[thorny steeple]

a lot of people say that every day, they just need someone to enlight them

[small bolt]

What does it mean

[summer parcel]

cant u deduce

[summer parcel]

openly humilated

forced to do something humilating

i apologized now

[small bolt]

So are u going to say sorry for insulting the religion “clearly”?

[thorny steeple]

it's fine

[small bolt]

Okay

Fine

Next time there is no warning, insult someone’s religion again and ur banned

[summer parcel]

will you next time someone says something insulting about my country

make them beg on their knees and apologize

[small bolt]

Report

And we will take action

[summer parcel]

she didnt report

she tagged you

[small bolt]

She did actually

I can show u if u want

[summer parcel]

no need

[small bolt]

She opened a ticket

[summer parcel]

ill pull out the mod card if someone smear my country and my people

goodbye

[small bolt]

So yeah that’s what u gotta do when someone insult u or whatever, not insulting religion ha..

[small bolt]

Do it

[grave temple]

bomboclat

what happened here

[formal pilot]

Religious conflict

Someone got smoked to oblivion

[grave temple]

aw hell naw

not religion

bruh cut him some slack

hes from china

him and minecraft (no offense mc) are mainlanders

their information on the outside world is restricted

they probably choose to trust their media over ours

just like how we trust ours over theirs

i dont blame them

[formal pilot]

Well Minecraft isn't in china

[grave temple]

hes from china

[formal pilot]

He's living in North Korea

[grave temple]

people from china are like indoctornated (no offense of course)

[grave temple]

wrong korea 😭

[formal pilot]

Lmao

[grave temple]

well not indoctornated

like their education is overally patriotic

and they tend to believe their own media over foreign ones

[formal pilot]

Globalism or nationalism??