🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

kind of, but has limits

[vapid hare]

So they officially support the palestinian cause but actually deal with the israelis behind closed doors?

[vapid hare]

Why would you vote for a party like that

[heavy forum]

13 BILLION

do you know how much that is?

[vapid hare]

13 billion DOLLARS bruh. Ofc

[heavy forum]

Israel Is essentially dependent on US (not the U.S)

[vapid hare]

Indeed. The US hands them a billion dollars in aid every year or so

[heavy forum]

...I meant Turkey, they are pretty much dependent on us

[vapid hare]

Ohhhh you shouldn't have capitalized US how much do you guys give out

[heavy forum]

Also erdoğan thinks anime makes people Atheists

[heavy forum]

I said not U.S in ()

[vapid hare]

I didn't see that cause im blind

[heavy forum]

13 billion in trade, and from what I think 2 billion aids behind doors

[vapid hare]

And a whopping ZERO dollars to palestine im guessing?

Respond or I'll eat your soul

[heavy forum]

3.352.102 USD

10,161,164 USD

the first one is foods and stuff, and the second one is housing

[vapid hare]

Aid in millions while they give the israelis aid in billions...

[heavy forum]

yep

and behind doors, they only stopped now beacuse they got exposed

[vapid hare]

Did they get exposed by journalists?

[formal pilot]

They made huge profits

That's why it's slowing down

[vapid hare]

They should let me continue it

[formal pilot]

Main stream media isn't criticizing them openly yet

[heavy forum]

Since the beginning of Israel’s massacres in Gaza, journalist Metin Cihan has been exposing the Erdoğan government and companies that continue to trade with Israel through his X/Twitter account (@metcihan) with the hashtag “Stop the shipment to Israel.”

In a study based on data from the Marine Traffic website, Cihan listed the ships that have sailed from Turkey to Israel since October 7 and documented that behind the government’s so-called “boycott” campaigns, the trade continues, helping Israel to subject the Palestinians to genocide.

In a remarkable effort of investigative journalism, Cihan’s subsequent social media posts focused on the companies involved in the ongoing trade. He documented that the owner of Manta Denizcilik, which operated the Halit Yıldırım ship that sailed from Israel during the Israeli bombardment of Gaza, was in partnership with Erdoğan’s son Burak Erdoğan.

Cihan later revealed that Erkam Yıldırım, the son of former AKP Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım, is a partner of the owner of Oras Denizcilik, a shipping company to Israel. The owner of Oras Denizcilik is also in partnership with AKP deputy Vehbi Koç.

[vapid hare]

This kind of stuff is put on the backburner tbh for mainstream media, no one cares that much about it

[formal pilot]

Dude you moan while wiping your ass, wth you gonna do with war

[heavy forum]

I'm also against politicians owning Bussineses

[vapid hare]

I wipe my ass with my bare hands like a REAL man, unlike you

[heavy forum]

You guys wipe your asses?

[formal pilot]

Na we just sit near the ocean

Waves do the thing

[heavy forum]

I just let it crust

Like a real man

[vapid hare]

You fertilize the land with your shit, good job

[heavy forum]

yes.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/981490543051821066/1225307941461168229/image0.gif

[formal pilot]

His arse is really fertilized

We should plant some seeds

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-lebron-james-meme-evil-lebron-james-gif-16626522723873177157

[vapid hare]

Boy oh boy where do I even begin. Lebron… honey, my pookie bear. I have loved you ever since I first laid eyes on you. The way you drive into the paint and strike fear into your enemies eyes. Your silky smooth touch around the rim, and that gorgeous jumpshot. I would do anything for you. I wish it were possible to freeze time so I would never have to watch you retire. You had a rough childhood, but you never gave up hope. You are even amazing off the court, you're a great husband and father, sometimes I even call you dad. I forvever dread and weep, thinking of the day you will one day retire. I would sacrifice my own life it were the only thing that could put a smile on your beautiful face. You have given me so much joy, and heartbreak over the years. I remember when you first left clevenland and its like my heart got broken into a million pieces. But a tear still fell from my right eye when I watched you win your first ring in miami, because deep down, my glorious king deserved it. I just wanted you to return home. Then allas, you did, my sweet baby boy came home and I rejoiced. 2015 was a hard year for us baby, but in 2016 you made history happen. You came back from 3-1 and I couldn't believe it. I was crying, bawling even, and I heard my glorious king exclaim these words,
"CLEVELAND, THIS IS FOR YOU!" Not only have you changed the game of basketball and the world forever, but you've eternally changed my world. And now you're getting older, but still the goat, my goat. I love you pookie bear, my glorious king, Lebron James. 🥰❤️🫶🏽

[heavy forum]

...............

wut

Where did we come from inflation, to dis

[vapid hare]

You've never seen this copypasta before??

[heavy forum]

nahhhhhhhh

[vapid hare]

We were destined to talk about this

[heavy forum]

bruh

https://tenor.com/view/kazuya-mishima-tekken-smile-gif-16693162

[vapid hare]

Smash

[heavy forum]

he finna smash you...

Out of existence

[thorny steeple]

finna or gonna *

what finna inserts

[heavy forum]

I once posted, ''wanna see my cck in a sfw server, I was almost banned, Until I posted my cck (chicken)''

English is weird

[vapid hare]

You should've clarified by saying you wanted to show your pp smh

[heavy forum]

P#ssy means cat? When I see a P#ssy I can't say it out loud

[thorny steeple]

?def finna

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[thorny steeple]

finna
verb
Contraction of "fixing to", used as "going to".

[heavy forum]

It's a unofficial slang

[thorny steeple]

got it

[vapid hare]

Hood slang i think

[heavy forum]

?def rizz

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[heavy forum]

Liar

[vapid hare]

Lemon has a PHD in yappanese

[thorny steeple]

?def yapping

[cursive bobcat]

Word: yapping

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by melon518

[heavy forum]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-pp-workout-funny-meme-grab-gif-17360372

[vapid hare]

Amazing, he's training his third arm 😯

[heavy forum]

A true man right there

[thorny steeple]

distinguised man right there

[vapid hare]

A true alpha male in the wild

[heavy forum]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-cartoon-gif-10568356

[thorny steeple]

[heavy forum]

I'm dying bro

what dis?

[heavy forum]

https://tenor.com/view/snoopy-yay-celebration-gif-2910823640362279456

You have earned the right to MEET GOD

[thorny steeple]

ye i died after seeing this

my brain damaged

https://tenor.com/view/domgcat-donkeycat-gif-24380643

[heavy forum]

[heavy forum]

[dim trellis]

Do you even need to ask?

One side is explicitly out to murder and exterminate their Israeli "occupiers."

[austere fiber]

whats ur opinion about Palestine

[dim trellis]

The other is simply trying to defeat a group of heartless terrorists, and recover the hostages - or at least their bodies.

[austere fiber]

whats ur opinion about children in Rafah

[dim trellis]

Palestine is a failed state. I feel sorry for the people, but they did indirectly cause this by voting Hamas in.

The arab world is also refusing to take them in - Egypt even reinforced their fence the moment they thought they might see refugees fleeing the war.

[dim trellis]

I think it's unconscionable that their parents are forcing them to stay in the area despite the dangers.

[austere fiber]

But Palestinians are innocent, why Israel is still slaughtering them?

[dim trellis]

They aren't. That's just like saying the German people who voted Hitler in and were complacent in his genocide were innocent.

Most people do not deserve to die, I don't disagree.

It's lamentable that Hamas hides in schools and hospitals, and densely populated areas.

It means that Israel will inevitably have civilian casualties when they carry out strikes against Hamas.

[austere fiber]

so u mean that their parents are forcing them to stay in Rafah. No. Israel is attacking the North of Gaza, and Israel said to the Palestinians that flee to Rafah.

Why u think that Hamas hides in schools and hospitals?

[dim trellis]

They should be evacuated. Keep in mind that this war would not exist without Hamas.

[dim trellis]

Because they know that Israel - unlike them, will have some degree of mercy upon those facilities.

[austere fiber]

Hamas started this war, but Israel always wants land and resources, i think that Israel is the reason that Hamas started this war, to protect Palestinians.

[dim trellis]

Incorrect. Either way, from an utilitarian perspective they only plunged the people of Gaza into suffering.

You do not "protect palestinians" by massacering innocent civilians.

That's how you start a war, and Hamas knew that.

[austere fiber]

PALESTINIANS WELCOMED ISREALIS TO PALESTINE’S LAND, BUT ISREALIS BETRAYED PALESTINIANS.

[dim trellis]

That was a century ago.

It's also pretty misinformed.

[austere fiber]

So? NOW ISRAELIS OCCUPIED ALMOST ALL OF PALESTINE’S LAND FROM 1947 TO NOW

[dim trellis]

Because the Palestinians have shown themselves capable of self-governing.

They're not a country. Israel has every right to do so.

[austere fiber]

U NEED TO KNOW THAT ISREAL IS SLAUGHTERING CHILDREN, EVEN UNBORN BABIES

[dim trellis]

Not intentionally.

[thorny steeple]

[dim trellis]

Please don't tell me you genuinely think Israel wants to kill babies or children.

[austere fiber]

Idk why u are cold-blooded, Palestinians are suffering, they are dying, and children deserve to go to school, but Isreal IS DESTROYING SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, MOSQUES, CHURCHES, ETC.

[dim trellis]

And whose fault is that?

Why is Israel carrying out strikes in the Gaza strip?

Why is Israel at war?

What group shattered the peace that had existed for decades?

What group plunged Palestine and Gaza into chaos and destruction?

Should Israel have stood idly by, watching complacently as their people were slaughtered, as their women were raped, or as their men were made to beg for mercy - only to be ruthlessly executed by religious zealots?

[austere fiber]

ISRAEL STRIKES PALESTINE, SOUTH LEBANON. THEY KILL PALESTINIANS, EVEN KILL LEBANONIAN

[dim trellis]

Clearly you don't have much else to say apart from parroting anti-israeli propaganda.

How about you open your eyes and actually see for yourself what caused this conflict?

What else shoud Israel have done? What else could they have done?

[thorny steeple]

Wtf u saying
Wht about killing more than 33k ppl
That is also not intentionally !!
Wht about bombing them by global forbidden bombs
That's not intentionally!!!

[dim trellis]

Egyptian huh?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/16/satellite-photos-show-egypt-building-gaza-buffer-zone-as-rafah-push-looms
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2024/0216/Eyeing-Israel-Hamas-spillover-Egypt-builds-border-walls-in-Gazans

It's a bit hypocritical to show your support of Palestine all whilst your country is trying it's damnedest to keep them out - to keep them in the warzone.

And yes, the death toll is at roughly 30k. That's to be expected when you have war in densly populated urban areas. If anything it's quite low.

[formal scaffold]

he doesn't represent his country, what's ironic about him being from Egypt he don't issue orders xD

[dim trellis]

Most of Egypt, including the presspersons have declared support for the palestinian people.

I don't have any source on that, but it's pretty obvious if you've been following the news.

[formal scaffold]

well that doesn't matter really, Egyptian cost guards has killed palastenians before the 7th of october, does that mean that the people should follow the Gov interest and abide by them

esp after Sisi took over who's mind you a military general, he imprisoned the last president and took over

you must take into consideration all of that before adressing irony

[thorny steeple]

Well
Do u know how many syrians , Palestinians sudanese Yemenis are there in Egypt!!!

Wht will Israel do if they came to Sinai!!

[dim trellis]

Which is why the stance is so odd.

[formal scaffold]

So what you are also saying no Jew or Israeli citizen has the right to criticize their gov, or have no right to support palestine?

[dim trellis]

Well not the stance, but them building a giant inpenetrable wall along their border.

[formal scaffold]

and is it about palestine rn or about being human, and respecting the laws of war?

[dim trellis]

No I'm just stating the hypocrisy of the Egyptian government.

[formal scaffold]

yeah almost every arabic gov is like that

[dim trellis]

Correct.

[thorny steeple]

Israel wanna get them Sinai cuz they have a religious aims to invade Sinai and some areas in Egypt
They wanna make their empire from the river to the Nile

[dim trellis]

Yeah sure LOL.

[thorny steeple]

So we built the giant impenetrable wall

until the Jews can't carry out their plans.

[dapper laurel]

I don't think it will work

[golden sage]

Saw you guys talking about 🇵🇸

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[balmy matrix]

you helped Palestine alot 🥰

[tidal belfry]

1 cent donated go help them

[dapper laurel]

From who?

[fallow ridge]

From Israel(sh**est non existing Country ever)

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[dapper laurel]

Free Palestine from Hamas

[fallow ridge]

from hamas ?? are you kidding me????

[dapper laurel]

I'm not

[fallow ridge]

wtf are you saying? seriously?

[dapper laurel]

If Hamas had not attacked Israel, the massacre of Palestinian civilians would have been avoided

[dapper laurel]

I'm serious, but, where are you from?

[formal scaffold]

If hamas wasn't there palestine would be wiped long time ago 🤣
bro thinks the world started in 7th october

[fallow ridge]

yup he don't seems to know abt history

[formal scaffold]

what kind of human think that occupiers are the oppressed and defenders are the oppressors

[dapper laurel]

But why did Palestine attack Israel and why can't Israel respond to the attack?

[fallow ridge]

I'm from India, wbu?

[formal scaffold]

this Islamophobe bs trend is going out of a hand, if any muslim defend himself is terrorist if the israelli army kills kid instead of fighting real fighters they arent doign a genocide

[fallow ridge]

read the history bro.

[dapper laurel]

Jews lived in Palestine before the Arabs, then the Romans under Titus caused their diaspora. In practice the Jews were expelled from their land unjustly

[formal scaffold]

are u stupid bro, israel constantly kills palestinians? can't they fight back for freedom?

[fringe folio]

[dapper laurel]

History since 1900 is not enough 😂😂

[formal scaffold]

where do u live?

i wanna invade yr country and label any defence a terrorist attack 😄

arrest yr people every day and kill them and label u as terrorist

we'll see if you'll have fun then

[dapper laurel]

How can you define a terrorist attack as a defense??? Do you realize the stupid statement you made??? Do Israeli civilians have anything to do with their government's choices? They deserve to die?

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z9UyPurVok&pp=ygUldGhleSBoYXZlIGJsdWUgZXllcyBqb3VybmFsaXN0IHVrcmFpbg%3D%3D

[formal scaffold]

It in their country, why is it a terrorist attack? they did attack a military base and kidnaped civilians they don't carpet bomb civilians like ikhrael

you label based on race not brain

[dapper laurel]

Brooo, Hamas killed more than a hundred people in a terrorist attack

[fallow ridge]

then why Palestine's children dying every single day? what was their fault ?

[formal scaffold]

people like you called mandela a terrorist, chue givara, Castro, and all people who are considred heroes now

[formal scaffold]

Isreal kill people everyday since 1948

[dapper laurel]

So am I racist if I support Israel? Isn't this thought itself discriminatory?

[dapper laurel]

This is because the Arabs rejected the proposal to create the state of Israel and attacked first

[formal scaffold]

you are pretty damn islamphobe for rooting for a colonialist force against occupied people and callign their defence terrorisme

[formal scaffold]

whhhhhhhhhhhhy in there? why not in yr freaking country? if u support isreal that much give them half of yr lands

[dapper laurel]

Am I Islamophobic now? 💀

[balmy matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741945274901200897/1127357034665345065/caption.gif

[formal scaffold]

and a good one at it

[dapper laurel]

The United Kingdom could do what it wanted with its colonies, so don't get angry with Israel, but with the English

[formal scaffold]

bro didn't explain why he called a military attack within palestine a terrorist attack

[dapper laurel]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀Try to argue, not to say random statements

[balmy matrix]

Its a Muslims vs Jews war , no more no less

[formal scaffold]

bro you are sick in the head for saying this

I can't talk with a colonialist their brain are made of leftover cold noodles

[dapper laurel]

There is nothing wrong, but other than that, Jews began to settle in Palestine before the creation of the state of Israel

[sour marlin]

Fr

But one thing that's ambiguous for me

[formal scaffold]

so there's nothing wrong if hitler killed anyone, since you know he was a colonialist

what in the logic -_-

[sour marlin]

Is that why people think they can help or improve the situation by their hashtags and their online arguments

[formal scaffold]

source trust me bro, it's a relegious war

[sour marlin]

It is of course

[dapper laurel]

There is nothing wrong with what I said before, the British first colonized the Palestinian lands, not the Jews

[formal scaffold]

that fuck yall are stupid or what? the original people are dying for almost a century and yall are still changing that to cope with their crimes

i'm out inhuman bunch, I hope you experience all types of colonialisme

[formal scaffold]

so if they colonialized after it doesn't count wtf

[dapper laurel]

I don't think there's a need

[formal scaffold]

just wished u that to understand colonialisme you seem to not know what it is

[balmy matrix]

chill out babies

[formal scaffold]

yeah let's chill while children are dying, and lie about their situation

[balmy matrix]

nothing will change over discord fight 🥰

[formal scaffold]

nothing except my taste in humans who support colonialisme crimes

[balmy matrix]

get a gun and go then

[formal scaffold]

bro's promoting the endless cycle of killing -_-

[dapper laurel]

They first emigrated and then created an independent state, explain to me why this dynamic shouldn't be right! Migrations have always existed, even now Muslims migrate to EU, there is nothing wrong with this. You are intrinsically inconsistent, because if you are against a simple immigration by Jews, you will also be against a migration by Arabs to Europe, is this true or not? And don't try to justify yourself, you can't do it, if you did at this point you would demonstrate that you are anti-Semitic

[formal scaffold]

1st of all it's not my country so I have no right to participate in their wars,
2ndly I have every right to sympathise with them and call out for truth in discord
3rdly any small action might have a domino effect, if we all stand against oppression, but we got mentaly disturbed humans amongst us and they are increasing in numbers

[formal scaffold]

are u high or smth, the same year they killed about the same number that entere, kicked poeple of their houses, you call that migration?

[formal scaffold]

tf you call immigration, immigrants don't have the right to kill, have and army, kick people of their houses, rape, arrest

are you right in yr mind? I'm really dn hope u have a wonderfull life outside of mine

[balmy matrix]

lets live in peace 🥰

[heavy forum]

bruh

[dapper laurel]

In the EU, immigrants from the Middle East do it, but we have learned to tolerate them, it's just about integration

[dapper laurel]

They lived together, remember that at that time Palestine was under British rule, it was not under Jewish rule

[formal scaffold]

when the fuck did immigrants in middle east have an army in eu, have the authority to rape and no doing it secreyly, when did they kick europeans of their houses can u actually think?

bro you are smth else I'm dn fr find someone to cope with and drink over the children's blood

[dapper laurel]

You are literally a hysterical fagot

Then the Arabs/Muslims have already occupied lands belonging to other peoples, they are certainly not angels just as the Jews are not

[formal scaffold]

you are a fucking german, keep licking their balls, your coutry is the fagot for the US, no military bases or shit, keep apologizing from crimes u didn't do

[dapper laurel]

And we are the fourth largest economic power in the world

Then we are not slaves of the United States, they helped us grow

[formal scaffold]

who's we it's them you are just workers for them, you got no goverement no army

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

drink der tears freund

[dapper laurel]

Where are you from?

Then our country has made a lot of policies to hinder the United States, doesn't the creation of the euro mean anything to you?

People's minds are full of propaganda

[thorny steeple]

Definitely no. What Israel is doing against Palestine isn't comparable to Hamas acts

[dapper laurel]

So? If your civilians were attacked, would you not respond?

[thorny steeple]

The war didn't start in this way

This isn't a war that started recently

[dapper laurel]

In fact it was started by the Arabs when they attacked Israel soon after its creation

[thorny steeple]

No, It was started by Zionism

The idea of Zionism already explains everything

[cedar oar]

And thus, the Hold Land debate sprung up again! It seems as if #🧠｜serious-chat will never escape the wrath of this debate

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1TAOibLss&pp=ygUYdGFudHVyYSBkb2N1bWVudGFyeSBmaWxt

[dapper laurel]

Bro, answer me, where are you from? I want to understand why you insult my country

[dapper laurel]

Brooo, war criminals exist everywhere

It's not just Jews and Arabs, these things happen in war

[formal scaffold]

we are talking about who started it first, this happened in 1948, when "the armed immigrants" came with weapons and did what they wanted

after being kicked of yr country ofc

now you are playing the game of condemning arabs, while defending jews, based on your emotions

[dapper laurel]

No, the Arabs started waging war first to drive away the Jews, they only reacted. You have a distorted view of history

[formal scaffold]

and there's a whole documentary about every crime happening you deny aaaaaaaaaaaal of that and go to 7th october and spek about hamas why?

why don't you shut yr bitch ass up now? if u wanna talk about hamas mention zionists more bc they started it and they killed more

[dapper laurel]

I support Israel only for ideological reasons, Israel is a Western ally and my country trades a lot with Israel

[formal scaffold]

they should've taken over germany, since germans killed them, they shouldve raped german girls and took over yr houses, it's fair since u killed them all, nnnnnnnnoooo they decied to come all the way to palseinte to kill

[dapper laurel]

Why are you insulting me now? It doesn't make you right 👍🏻

[formal scaffold]

bc yr a bitch

[dapper laurel]

No waayyy

[formal scaffold]

a bitch for USA and Israel

[dapper laurel]

You called me a bitch, I'm scared

[formal scaffold]

I'm stating facts I'm not scaring you

[dapper laurel]

You still haven't told me where you come from, I can understand a lot from this...

[dapper laurel]

You're picking up the same thing from the beginning of the conversation

[formal scaffold]

if you are scared it's on you not my problem, check a therapist

[dapper laurel]

You too should see a therapist for your bouts of anger

[formal scaffold]

Only thing angering me is seeing dead children everyday, then people like u

https://tenor.com/view/spit-it-out-spit-disgusting-gif-16413711

GTFO

[dapper laurel]

Then the Arabs occupied Spain for about 200 years, this is also unfair. But Israel asked you to live together, you refused, what did you expect then?

[dapper laurel]

You can't be serious 😂

[formal pilot]

What's going on between Iran and Israel 💀

[heavy forum]

whats is dis???

[vagrant swan]

kidslayer went so far

[main bison]

Imagine world war 3 starts because of israel

[heavy forum]

they did my boy yuji dirty

[thorny steeple]

If Israel insists to get rid of Palestinians to Sinai
We will react with thise pigs

[heavy forum]

too*

[main bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047115243500875819/1228397393532420147/youtube-s9IJ8GP2PM8.mp4?ex=662be539&is=66197039&hm=d4c08d410b9aa1f0b76ca0dbe8a9e6ff8caaaad2b72c2c9a083d86150c79b76a&

[vagrant swan]

they are trippin

iran is managing by america

[thorny steeple]

Assalamu Alikum everybody! 👋

[sour marlin]

Wa aleykom Salam

[sour marlin]

Bro...
Iran is against America

[flat cradle]

https://www.politicalcompass.org

[vagrant swan]

do you really think Iran is challenging America?

[sour marlin]

Isn't it ?

[sour marlin]

Thanks

[vagrant swan]

in my opinion everything is under the USA's control.

iran is not that strong to challenge with usa

[sour marlin]

C'mon
USA doesn't have any superpower

Its that nucleolus that Iran is producing as well

[vagrant swan]

🤣

[thorny steeple]

False equivalence. Antisemitism refers to hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews. First, it's important to distinguish between antisemitism and critiques and opinions against Israel in general. Second, emoji suggestions are automatically generated based on your typing patterns and don't take intent into account. So, even if an emoji suggestion could be misconstrued as offensive, it's not meant to be.

This statement puts Israel in a defensive position. There is more to the story than that. Israel's hostility and discrimination beyond their law has been present for 75 years. Illegal settlement, detention without trial of children, and massacres against Palestinians existed since the foundation of this colonial occupation group.
Balad al-Shaykh massacre, Deir Yassin massacre, and Tantura massacre just to name a few.

[thorny steeple]

Assalamualaikum y'all

[thorny steeple]

Walikum Assalam Warahmatulahi Wa Barakatuhu.

[onyx hazel]

Are their enemies the Palestine population??

[thorny steeple]

Yes
Just take around above

[onyx hazel]

I know, I'm asking to make him think about it

[main bison]

where are u from?

[onyx hazel]

Most of the people killed by Israel are Palestinians

[onyx hazel]

I'm from Brazil

[thorny steeple]

ola ola prazer em conhecer voce im trying to learn portugues as well as english

[thorny steeple]

which state of brazil do you like most

[primal moss]

ola ola mate! please use english here

btw you can practice portugese in https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1006565255192776704
💟 friendly advice...

[thorny steeple]

should i use "the" like this in this sentence |which state of brazil do you like -the -most| or is it unnecesarry

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-happy-gif-4334502865301853761

[oak sphinx]

I have a genuine question. How does trans people get treated in the hospital ? Because yeah you can change your appearance or your ID but not how your body works internally.
Do they tell their real gender ? Or are there trans-friendly treatments ?

[thorny steeple]

R u trans

[oak sphinx]

I'm not just curious

[thorny steeple]

The hospital examines everyone separately according to the test results. There may be traditional solution guidelines based on gender idk

[oak sphinx]

But before the doctor runs tests they will ask your symptoms and according to them he will know the right tests for you. But what if you were born male and you have prostate cancer but you present yourself as a woman. It can be confusing

[thorny steeple]

good point

[thorny steeple]

Mmm
Me too

[golden sage]

Meh just another uneducated zionist

Just a simple question on google can get you educated "since when did jews enter palestine"

Also jews were never the problem ..its zionists like youuu

[grave temple]

The Jews lived in present day Palestine before being exiled by the Romans. To anger and make fun of the Jews, the Romans renamed Israel, land of the Israelites to Palestina.

The Jew’s presence in the area were recorded in the bible and in numerous Roman archives

Regardless of who was where before who

The Palestinians and the Jews are living in the area

And a two state solution is the only solution

[sudden ocean]

China never did fall behind USSR... China also took part in almost every incident made socialists embarrassed... you should admit that. BTW thanks for your reply.

[golden sage]

Not you leo 😭

Idk where did you get your source of infos but is 100% wrong leo

But the problem is not the jews .. thats what you ppl don't get .. jews, muslims, ..any other religion where leaving peacefully in Palestine. Its the geno $ide going against Palestinians since decades ago.

[gaunt bronze]

^^^^

[thorny steeple]

Some present-day Palestinian groups have a significant ancestral links to ancient Canaanites, which are the original indigenous people of Southern Levant (encompasses Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, and parts of Syria).
Although it's a nuanced topic, given the DNA admixture of both Jews and Palestinians. However, it's important to distinguish between religion, and ethnicity. If I convert to Judaism today, that doesn't make me indigenous to the land.

[surreal abyss]

They don't have to tell. I don't know if it's the right term but if they're "passing" nobody would even ask. But if they are really concerned about their health and searched their risks related to the symptoms they had, if there is a risk related to the gender assigned them at birth, they needed to be open about their gender identity. It's the wise thing to do. In my country there is no such thing as trans-friendly treatment idk about other countries. Although my looks and voice are passing if there is a possibility of a sickness related to the gender that I'm no longer related (lol) I'm usually telling the fact that I'm transgender and also on HRT. Idk if this answers your question I tried to explain as much as I can from a trans person's view.

[grave temple]

Can we please talk something else other than Israel vs palestine 🙏

Both sides are equally wrong

No to war

Yes to peace

End of discussion

Respect human rights 🙏

[onyx hazel]

Ooh nice man

Are you learning by yourself?

[onyx hazel]

I like Minas Gerais, because of pão de queijo

[unkempt cliff]

hello

[sour marlin]

Well I'm partially agree with u

[vapid hare]

Stop being a centrist mf

[quick plover]

they should make me ruler, I'll fix it all in a heartbeat

[high saddle]

careful about wording: it's not "real gender", it's "assigned gender"/"sex"
different stuff

[onyx hazel]

peace doesn't exist

[feral river]

nope

but their enemies is the people who support financially, militarily to their government which fighting against Israel.

[feral river]

did you justified their actions disobeying the Israel law and social order is the true path ? I don't think they will massacre some people who has no literally threat to them, it's a big issue, a national security issue.

there is no any government will tolerant some people come together and fight against the entire society, entire country and the government.

if you are type of this person, you are their enemy. and I believe they have no mercy to their enemy.

I don't think literally know why some people are thinking they have no enemy and they support some movement which politically against the other side, sounds very contradictive.

[harsh mountain]

Yes

[feral river]

don't you realize that they didn't crack down this movement so fast is because they have pressure from another place ? such like global influence if they did something really special they will under sanction by some stupid excuses so they have to move carefully and crack down all of you guys.,

in conclusion they have to care their own people and their boss at the same time, but something they do like an invasion would care their own people not their boss, their boss don't literally need an upcoming annexation which disrupt their big plan about this region and something really disobeying their ideology, their principle such like western human rights. so they have to move carefully and make sure everything is working properly.

that's what the fucking government thinking, I guess

and that's why we don't need to care this shit since we are fully independent, we have our own ideology, we are superpower we can veto every resolution against us/our allies, what a huge benefit.

[formal pilot]

[sour marlin]

@formal pilot did u get rich because of Eid?

[formal pilot]

I used to get rich, now I get robbed on EID

Most of my cousins are married and their kids rob the hell out of me

[sour marlin]

Lmfao 🤣

[sour marlin]

Don't give em money

[formal pilot]

They take it forcefully
||With cute faces||

[sour marlin]

Like whoever shows u a cute face u will give em money?

[primal moss]

@formal pilot give me money

[sour marlin]

Hey u r muted?

But still talking?

How cooool is that

[formal pilot]

Something wrong i can feel it

[sour marlin]

Bruh...

Didn't expect this from u

[formal pilot]

Dude I'm broke like Sudan's economy rn

[sour marlin]

Lmao 😂
Yk why?

Because u r so noob

[formal pilot]

Mixture of both ig

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah I'm noob just like you

[sour marlin]

Nevah

Im Not that noob to give Money for those who have a cute face

[primal moss]

serious chat...

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-18261463

[feral river]

do you give money for some loser who even can't survive ?

[sour marlin]

Yes

I give em money to buy a gun and kill themselves

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah I love helping others

[feral river]

nice try, but I give money for the person who is the winner and we have a nice cooperation against losers 🤝

[sour marlin]

If someone is winner I'm not sure he needs ur money

Why do u give em money?

[feral river]

winner will never deny cooperation.

if they deny, one day maybe they are losers.

[sour marlin]

A winner doesn't need cooperation

He gotta be self-sufficient

[formal pilot]

giving to the losers is a crime?

[feral river]

nope I don't care if you give to the losers

that's your freedom

[feral river]

well well well I don't think so

winner always need cooperation

even it's from losers.

[sour marlin]

Doesn't

Maybe The winner u cooperated with was a loser

[feral river]

definitely not 🤣 situation is clear

[sour marlin]

Plain as day

[feral river]

I also love helping others, but I don't love helping losers.

[formal pilot]

You should donate money to USA, they're the epitome of winners

[feral river]

so what did they provide to me ?

I donate money to them for myself

so what did I got

[formal pilot]

It's not donation, it's begging for a piece of bread

From the Elites

[feral river]

oh really ? then where is that bread

come on tell me

if you don't need it give it to me

[formal pilot]

You said you donate for yourself

Yk where's the bread

[feral river]

yep for myself of course so I got my profit

[formal pilot]

That's the bread

[feral river]

oh 😂 ? the bread that they give it to me ?

that's exchange bro

[formal pilot]

So why are you saying it's a donation?

If it's a exchange, call it exchange

[feral river]

you may confuse with donation

who said that donation can't be exchange ?

tax cuts ?

do you ever know that ?

[formal pilot]

So you're saying donation= exchange?

[formal pilot]

That's the part of bread after begging

[feral river]

if you don't mind you can look at your text again

and look at my text

[feral river]

do you know what is beg

[formal pilot]

I'm too loaded to know that

Do you know the meaning of donation?

[feral river]

donation is definitely not only I have money I give you a shit I don't need and you can have something from my money. it's included I give you something, I donate you something maybe you have something and we both get benefit of it.

is that clear ?

exchange is fucking I need this stuff from you, you must give it to me if I give this shit to you.

donation is maybe I don't need your shit, just have it.

[formal pilot]

We both get benifit?? When did they change the meaning of donation

[sour marlin]

Lmao bro has mistaken donation with investment 😂

[sour marlin]

[feral river]

you really think I need a cambridge dictionary to teach you what is the donation 🤔

[sour marlin]

He wants to donate and at the same time get benefits

[feral river]

and you didn't really question the point

[sour marlin]

[feral river]

you missed the point bro 🤣

[formal pilot]

Dude you donate to get benifits

[formal pilot]

And you missed the definition

[feral river]

do you ever read my text ?

if you don't you can read it right now

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[feral river]

he must confuse with expected and required

[feral river]

so ?

nothing wrong with it ?

you can question what's wrong with it

[sour marlin]

No who said

[formal pilot]

But few seconds back you said i didn't read you msg when I said

You donate to get benifits

That's the problem

[feral river]

I can donate from getting benefits why can't I ?

sounds like I donate can't get profit you only think exchange can get profit ?

[formal pilot]

So say it, it's an exchange

[feral river]

exchange is your must get the stuff you excepted from your target.

donation is not the fucking excepted or but they may give you or not give you something

is that really hard ?

[formal pilot]

From Where did you add may give you ??

I'm new to English, i don't understand this

Please elaborate more sir

[feral river]

It's like I'm giving 20 usd to a random people who don't have money to eat and he ate something and he's rich so he give me back like a big house because I donated him like 20 usd.

what a perfect example.

[formal pilot]

But you said you don't like to give money to losers

[feral river]

hey don't shift away from the topic 🤣

[formal pilot]

That's the whole topic

[feral river]

is that really an investment ? enlight me sir

[feral river]

no you clearly shifted away from the definition of the donation that you questioned and questioned my actions by myself.

hey don't shift away from that, do you still have confusion for the definition of donation I give you ?

[formal pilot]

Cuz your defination is contradictory

[feral river]

explain

[formal pilot]

You don't even know the whole topic lmao

[feral river]

yes just like this example I stated here, I didn't really excepted something he returned but he give me something isn't it ?

[heavy forum]

game is accurate bruh, this is serious stuff, Are robots gonna take over us???

[feral river]

yo not shift again explain it.

#🧠｜serious-chat message

sounds very interesting

[heavy forum]

thats not donation, its a boss giving his emplooyes wages

[feral river]

I said may, because there is a case that you got return or not.

that's why I included this situation in that definition.

nope ? maybe

[formal pilot]

You said you only donate to winners so you can get return

That's we call investment not donation

Now we're arguing about defination of donation cuz you just made something up about getting returns from it

[feral river]

it's you leading the topic to the definition and I already give it out but you didn't say nothing besides question it again.

you mean a donation would be absolutely 100% not hoping something in return ?

[formal pilot]

But according to Cambridge, that isn't the meaning of donation,
Someone is lying here

That's why I'm asking questions

Look it up again

[feral river]

you can ask questions and I don't think there is something wrong with this definition and I'm not a cambridge student I don't give a shit to cambridge but for common use my definition is 100% enough to explain the situation.

you can use your cambridge of course.

that's your freedom

but you may get return from it.

no matter you except or not.

if you excepted that's exchange.

[formal pilot]

Just provide me the dictionary from where you getting all the definitions

I'm asking for source

[feral river]

you can't completely say you absolute get no return from a donation I think even it's emotional.

so I don't think that's really matter.

[sour marlin]

Oh god still the same topic

Let him donate while receiving some profits at the same time

[feral river]

so according to that, return or not is really doesn't matter.

[sour marlin]

[formal pilot]

Provide me the source bro

[silver vault]

I've got something for you

[feral river]

myself is the source, any question left ?

[formal pilot]

So you made that whole thing up??

[feral river]

but you may get benefit or not.

[feral river]

that's you leading the topic not me.

[formal pilot]

I'm all ears

[feral river]

you asked definition to me and I give it to you 🤣

[silver vault]

https://quranx.com/tafsirs/68.1

[formal pilot]

Not religion again

[feral river]

yes

[silver vault]

No, I'm not trying to initiate any debate rn. You've got to give this a read

[feral river]

anything confuse ?

[formal pilot]

I'm on @feral river 's side in terms of religion

[feral river]

I think it's 100% clear

[formal pilot]

Ok wait

[feral river]

but you can't say you donate something for donation isn't it ? it must be something.

that's too weird if I donate something for donation.

like work something for working

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah ik about this, on the day of judgment that bull and whale will be slaughtered to feed the good people

[silver vault]

The same whale who carries us on its back?

[feral river]

then I got this one okay. you can accept some activities just for doing it for nothing.

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[feral river]

but I don't think you can do something for nothing even donation you may have something in return even you excepted or not.

[silver vault]

how ungrateful

Do you know who Ibn Abbas was?

[formal pilot]

Thanks for reminding about this verse

[feral river]

that's because our ideology is different so we got a different definition, that's normal and okay. I respect your definition.

[formal pilot]

He was a sahaba (close to prophet)

[silver vault]

Indeed and his interpretations should be considered more literal and credible

But the apologist will still merry-go-round between cryptic verses

[formal pilot]

Well

If they can't defend it, they'll say it's not authentic

[feral river]

there is no official of a language.

only standards.

just like human rights you mentioned is actually western human rights in my opinion.

[silver vault]

There's nothing authentic about any of the interpretations that are out there from scholars, cause all the verses are very premitive. You can decipher it however you want

[vapid hare]

What would you consider as real human rights then?

[formal pilot]

I'll give it another crack, I've some great books on interpretation

[feral river]

🤔

if you don't mind you can look at my text again

[feral river]

well human rights can be definited by different groups like in the west, freedom of speech, in east, freedom of eat, in somewhere else, wearing that black cloak cover all of your skin is also human rights.

that's just an example don't get offended

[vapid hare]

I see. Would you say that there are universal principles to human rights though? (i.e dignity, equality, and justice for all individuals, regardless of cultural background.)

[feral river]

of course no, I don't live in a fucking United States of Humanity.

[vapid hare]

Is eating bats considered an eastern human right

[feral river]

I live in Republic of Korea and I'm a citizen of People's Republic of China texting in a platform from United States of America

[vapid hare]

mr worldwide

[feral river]

idk

[formal pilot]

Web

[feral river]

https://www.gov.cn/

[formal pilot]

Free Taiwan

China is west Taiwan

[main bison]

Free Taiwan

[spring zephyr]

[feral river]

🤣

[spring zephyr]

[main bison]

Don't lick

[feral river]

Free Taiwan from Republic of China! 🇨🇳

[spring zephyr]

Why? You taste bad?

[main bison]

Free hong kong

[feral river]

Free Hong Kong from western influencers!

[cedar oar]

Free Macau

[main bison]

where?

[feral river]

Free United States!

[formal pilot]

Everywhere

[main bison]

ur right

[feral river]

Free Russia

Free Soviet Union!

[main bison]

Free Korea

[vapid hare]

Free Minecraft

[formal pilot]

Free nitro please

[feral river]

Free mars

[formal pilot]

Anyway gotta go guys
Cya

[feral river]

have a nice day

[vapid hare]

have the shittiest day known to man

[main bison]

Free middle east

[vapid hare]

Make the holy land into a US state

[feral river]

Free Republicans and Democratics

Free socialist who don't really know what is socialism and communism!

[quick plover]

Free this yellow man from damnation 🙏

[feral river]

after all of the frees, CCP WILL BE ETERNAL

[cedar oar]

Oh really? Free capitalists with no regard to human well being, just profit and their capital. Free the brainwashed people under the CCP, and the ones who will actively defend it no avail as the rehime benefits them

[feral river]

just kidding 😂

[vapid hare]

Free worst from being a poor liberal 🙏

[cedar oar]

How dare you!

[main bison]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-gang-nazbol-nazbol-gang-gif-13440081

[main bison]

wtf is this

[vapid hare]

National-socialism guys ✊

[feral river]

guess it

[main bison]

Logo of chinese government

[vapid hare]

The flag of china if it was the flag of china:

[feral river]

national emblem

[cedar oar]

Flag of the CCP*

[main bison]

That must be the flag of taiwan

[feral river]

there is no flag of Taiwan only flag of Republic of China

[main bison]

whatever u say

[vapid hare]

I think you mean to say East Taipei

[main bison]

Long live Taiwan

[feral river]

what a beautiful flag

we have this flag during 1912-1949

[main bison]

Taiwan is the heart of world

[feral river]

flag of Republic of China

[vapid hare]

replace this with the 5 yellow stars or you shall face consequences dear citizen

[main bison]

bro what does ching chong chun mean in chinese ?

what is this meme

[vapid hare]

Its a known greeting in china, make sure to say it to the nearest chinese person you see

[spring zephyr]

Here : #🎯｜events message

[feral river]

I think you know that doesn't really exist.

[vapid hare]

theres five stars in your country's flag, no?

[dull delta]

Is that old jalan?

Japan

[formal scaffold]

Only fans

[noble zephyr]

Gamba

[feral river]

well I mean the social credit system.

[feral river]

Rising sun flag, the symbol of Japanese culture(Japan), the symbol of Japanese aggression and actrocities(China, Korea etc.)

[covert spear]

hey geys todey we hava losta ov top fivo sinko ...nomoronko .car flip

[thorny steeple]

🇧🇩 🇯🇵

[clever path]

G'day.

[clever path]

💀

[abstract cypress]

Banzai

[dapper laurel]

They look like the social colors of my football team

The hooligans here use this flag

[noble zephyr]

gambling

trust me

[noble zephyr]

do that first then gamba

[dapper laurel]

When I started, everyone told me to stop, but it's dedication and no one will be able to stop me

It is also proven that 90% of gamblers stop playing before the big win

[noble zephyr]

they have weak mindset brotha, you should grind

[dapper laurel]

I gambled the house, but it's not finished yet

[noble zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/aloarmy-alo-daniell-ok-donald-trump-gif-25764458

[noble zephyr]

right lol

[noble zephyr]

go on go on bro

trust

[dapper laurel]

I trust the process

[noble zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-sigma-gm-sigma-wolf-pack-rise-and-grind-alpha-male-gif-18436891353706736629

[formal scaffold]

ofc I'll be the pimp, and you just bend over

[covert spear]

woerdo

[thorny steeple]

That's not accurate. It's not that they've disobeyed the law; rather, they are treated as human animals regardless.
One crucial aspect you're overlooking while staunchly defending Israel is their belief of being the chosen one. This ideology translates to viewing anyone outside of the group as inferior, regardless of who you are. If you're not one of them, they regard you as belonging to a lower class.
Check out this presentation by Gideon Levy (An Israeli journalist), where he delves into how Israel portrays itself as a victim and espouses a belief in being the chosen ones. He also shares two compelling stories illustrating the Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians, even though they haven't disobeyed the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EtNFXL_ykg&t=10s

[high saddle]

have you ever been in a debate club/class?
you can easily lead one.

[dapper laurel]

It's not a question of beliefs, everyone believes they are intrinsically superior to others. I support Israel out of convenience, I belong to the western world, as Israel does. I can't support my enemies, it's simple. If Jews believe they are better, but at the same time contribute to the economic growth of my country, this matters little to me

[high saddle]

same to you, tbh

[thorny steeple]

@ Minecraft made an argument claiming they have disobeyed the law, but this is inaccurate as I previously explained. The mistreatment they endure persists regardless of whether they've violated the law or not. This mistreatment likely stems from their belief in their superiority over every other human being in the world. So your response is irrelevant to the main point.

[thorny steeple]

Me?

[high saddle]

well...
yes, unless you want to forfeit the title.

[thorny steeple]

I can't. I'm mostly unavailable. These quick back-and-forths only happen during my brief moments of free time.

[high saddle]

welp, I'd be delighted to hear about your ways of formulating and defending arguments centrally.

...while clearly intending to achieve peaceful consensus.

[dapper laurel]

Doesn't mistreatment exist in all wars? The problem doesn't arise

[full atlas]

yes

[thin tiger]

hello

[chrome zenith]

Guys

Is there anyone supports Israel?

[hushed bear]

No one is here

Whom to talk? Lmao

[chrome zenith]

Ok

[chrome zenith]

I just wanted to confirm no one supports Ithis shit

[hushed bear]

@pearl rain @thorny steeple @whole beacon @thorny steeple
Can we all continue here?

[pearl rain]

I can only laugh

You guys continue

[whole beacon]

Vc is better

[hushed bear]

See

[thorny steeple]

Complete what?

[hushed bear]

I have no hate for muslim

[thorny steeple]

okey

[hushed bear]

The talk

[hushed bear]

So come over

[whole beacon]

Gimme 30 min,

Ok?

[hushed bear]

Sure

Idk why muslims think that we hindus hate them

I'm damn sure that 90% hindus do
But not all of us

[thorny steeple]

i am not a muslim, I was just wondering

[hushed bear]

I didn't say to you brother

[formal pilot]

It's perfect time to discuss about islam, @thorny steeple is here lmao

[thorny steeple]

okey

[formal pilot]

Source?

I had completely different experience

If it's more that 90% then why BJP in 2019 only got 37.7% vote?

So they hate Muslims but don't support BJP?

[dapper laurel]

Few people support Israel here

[formal pilot]

Yk the truth

Most of em hate Muslims

The thing is hate is louder than peace that's why you think 99% hindus hate Muslims

[hushed bear]

No
As i hindu i have observed well

[formal pilot]

There's a psychological phenomenon known as nagative bias ,
According to this, negative events have a great impact on our psychology

[hushed bear]

Apparantly 👍🏻👍🏻

[formal pilot]

Dude I've witnesses communal riots

[thorny steeple]

But it's undeniable that the majority of Hindus dislike Muslims

[formal pilot]

Ik average Hindu and Muslim don't hate eachother

[thorny steeple]

Although I will admit there is mutual hatred

[hushed bear]

@whole beacon Are you there? Shall we talk over vc

[whole beacon]

Really can't, now i got a call.
Sry mate.

[hushed bear]

They do

[formal pilot]

Step out of North India, come to west bengal or South

[hushed bear]

Alright
No worries

[formal pilot]

You'll see what I'm talking

[hushed bear]

Any other persons who wanna talk about it over vc?

If so, lemme know

[thorny steeple]

The root of the problem lies amongst uneducated people of both religions insulting the other religion

[formal pilot]

As a Muslim (on paper) living in a Hindu dominated area I can say average Hindu Muslim don't hate eachother

You're saying 99%

[hushed bear]

Huh? You're both?

[formal pilot]

I'm atheist

[hushed bear]

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

There's always distrust when it comes to religion

[hushed bear]

What do you think about (iran vs isreal)

[thorny steeple]

Doesn't matter what the religions are

[hushed bear]

Apparantly

[formal pilot]

Population of Hindus is 1.44B
You're saying 1.425B hindus hate Muslims

[thorny steeple]

It's just a cesspool of hatred

[hushed bear]

That's why i hate hinduism

Especially krishna devotees

Rest of all are kinda good

[formal pilot]

That exaggeration was unfathomable

[thorny steeple]

I just dislike people who try to 'disprove' religion using science

[hushed bear]

Our hinduism is good
But our preachers are damn stupids

They don't follow hinduism

[thorny steeple]

just as much as people who try and rationalize religion

[formal pilot]

Dude based on experience is a tool that belongs to flat earther

[thorny steeple]

The whole premise of religion is having faith in what is generally unbelievable

Miracles

and wonders

[formal pilot]

Fairytales*

[hushed bear]

Sikhism is better
Even i am a punjabi (but grew up in hindu culture)

[thorny steeple]

I'm a science student and yet I uphold my faith in Islam

[formal pilot]

Eventually you'll lose

[hushed bear]

I wanna make all the radha devotees cry
L

[thorny steeple]

I'd rather not argue with atheists or Hindus

[formal pilot]

Don't be an extremist

[hushed bear]

Kinda

[thorny steeple]

They have their own beliefs

[hushed bear]

I hate these rascals

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[high saddle]

becomes agnostic

[hushed bear]

Krishna devotees and radha devotees can't be a part of hinduism
They insult hinduism all the time

Call it what you may
I am just telling what i do believe

[thorny steeple]

There's no need to hate people of another religion, or even atheists for that matter

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[thorny steeple]

Believe what you believe, and ignore what others have to say

[cedar oar]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[thorny steeple]

Hatred only stunts progress so

[formal pilot]

Dude my one of the best friend is Krishna bhakt, and he's chill 💀

[hushed bear]

You must have some spiritual knowledge to understand it

[hushed bear]

I'm damn sure he worships radha more than krishna

(And haven't said they can't be chilled) Lmao

[high saddle]

basically how wars happen

[formal pilot]

Please don't leave atheism, I'll miss you

[hushed bear]

It's too long
Voice messages aren't allowed here
How could i explain?

Not at all

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/dillon-you-son-of-a-national-handshake-day-classic-reaction-handshake-reaction-gif-25297728

It's like saying all muslims are terrorist, it's irrational to think like that

[hushed bear]

Krishna devotes -
1 - Gopi bhav is greater than moksha
2 - Our vrindavan is the most powerful place all over the world (even more than swarga)
3 - They call gyaanis as fools (cause they believe knowledge isn't equal to devotion)
4 - They say the ones who don't worship radha can't be liberated

And many more things...

I have read the scriptures
So i know very well

[formal pilot]

They can believe whatever they want unless they're not harming anyone

[hushed bear]

You don't know about krishna devotees property
That's why you're saying this
Gemme a chance to explain
I'm sure you would hate them as well

[hushed bear]

No
It's not allowed in advaita

[formal pilot]

What's that??

[hushed bear]

A philosophy (established by adi shankaracharya)

An incarnation of lord shiva (according to the bhavishya purana)

[formal pilot]

So it's based on mythology?

[hushed bear]

Wrong
You haven't read their philosophy

[hushed bear]

Nihilism

As i said earlier (call it what you may)

[formal pilot]

Incarnation of Shiva is nihilism??

[hushed bear]

🤦🏻🤦🏻

Bro come to vc

[formal pilot]

Brb

[hushed bear]

Lemme explain in detail

I have read the philosophies of vaishnavism

I hope you know what vaishnavism is

It is what it is

Good
Even they hate each other

I used (nihilism) as a term to define (advaita)

Which was established by (adi shankaracharya)

Who's an incarnation of lord shiva (according to the bhavishya purana)

[formal pilot]

How many real philosophy have you read so far?

Not based on mythology

[hushed bear]

I do not

[formal pilot]

Gotcha

[hushed bear]

Only religious philosophies

[formal pilot]

Dude in general I hate philosophy, now imagine something based on mythological philosophy

[hushed bear]

🤦🏻🤦🏻
Could you come over vc? If so, lemme elaborate properly

You aren't getting the point

So there are no benefits to talk about it either
As you won't understand, so better to leave the topic

As you wish

[formal pilot]

So they don't buy your believes that's why you hate them?

[hushed bear]

@formal pilot Could you come to vc?

I'll explain properly

[formal pilot]

I'm attending a lecture rn lmao

[hushed bear]

Not mine
(Hinduism)

Yup

😂😂

[formal pilot]

They don't believe in real Hinduism that's why you hate them?

[hushed bear]

Lemme mention you there again

[hushed bear]

@thorny steeple

[silver vault]

Relatable

[hushed bear]

Yeahhh
But yet those rascals call themselves hindu

[formal pilot]

I'm atheist but from now on I'll identify as hindu, would you hate me?

[silver vault]

How nihilistic of you to oppose other's beliefs

[hushed bear]

Ofc not
You're being sarcastic

[formal pilot]

I was cooking something, lemme cook

[hushed bear]

Shut up
Do you know anything about hinduism? Would you like to debate over scriptures?

[silver vault]

No

[hushed bear]

If you know nothing, shut your mouth

[silver vault]

Why should i

[formal pilot]

Mentos moment

[silver vault]

Bro got heated

[hushed bear]

Cause you screamed at me

[hushed bear]

Apparantly 😂😂
Even i got astonished

Nope
I ain't

Congo

[formal pilot]

Intresting

[hushed bear]

🙄🙄

[silver vault]

Advaita promotes moksha, how's that nihilistic in any way

[formal pilot]

According to you people are not allowed to have different opinions

[hushed bear]

What to say now 🥲🥲

[silver vault]

Welp, didn't know people could interpret this too as however they want

[hushed bear]

They are
But...ufff
Come to vc

Real hindus vs reel hindus

That's the difference

[silver vault]

More like hypocrite vs rational people

[hushed bear]

Except blind devotion

[covert spear]

wsp guys

[formal pilot]

It's like Marvel vs DC
Both of em are fictional

[hushed bear]

Nopes
It's too different

[hushed bear]

Real hindus are frictional? Lmao

Yesss
True avenue of moksha 😌😌

[hushed bear]

Talking about hinduism
Wbu

[covert spear]

im just tryna help :/

[hushed bear]

I think i have to mention you there again
Lol

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah, it's all mythology

[hushed bear]

About what?

[covert spear]

ther problems

[hushed bear]

But one of them certainly exists
Each mythology can't be wrong

[formal pilot]

Pretend to know something and start yapping, you'll be a verified serious chat member

[hushed bear]

Lol
I see

[covert spear]

okay good

[hushed bear]

I can't state those (actual points) of yours by typing

As i said earlier (you won't...)

You want me to type all the points? I don't want my fingers to get ruined

[thorny steeple]

deep talk

[hushed bear]

Vc?

[thorny steeple]

wow

[formal pilot]

Which one is real?? I would love to find scientific errors in them

[thorny steeple]

did he really say that

[covert spear]

rn i cant with 15kb internet speed

[hushed bear]

Make it light

Why not

[formal pilot]

Dude prepare for exams

[thorny steeple]

just wow

[formal pilot]

Instead of yapping

Neat and clean one

[hushed bear]

Scientific erros? 😂😂

[hushed bear]

Lmao

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[thorny steeple]

🫡

👴

[covert spear]

lolz

[hushed bear]

He denied
And you accepted
Lmao
Okay come

Any

[thorny steeple]

on my phone
not even on laptop 💀

[hushed bear]

He's just being sarcastic

[formal pilot]

3.14 in the name of pi

Xi king pin

[thorny steeple]

3.1416

[formal pilot]

3.1415926535

[hushed bear]

We are only 2 right? If anyone else wanna come so I'll take all of us to a particular vc rather we would go to the rooms so that we can have proper conversation

[thorny steeple]

≈22÷7

[hushed bear]

Come

Sorry
I didn't see you lol

[thorny steeple]

pi = 3 (1 s.f)
End of the world's biggest debate

[formal pilot]

Dayamm

[hushed bear]

Any
I have no issues

[formal pilot]

Well it's not accurate, but does the job

Circumference ÷ diameter is more accurate ig

What?

Join only 2 member vc

[hushed bear]

That is the only problem

[formal pilot]

2.1

Is empty

[hushed bear]

@thorny steeple where are you gone

Come to room

As you say

Whichever you're comfortable with

I have no issues

But if you wanna know about the spiritual knowledge only then you could to our shaivism group (if you're a shaiva)

Only shaivas are allowed there

@covert spear is your connection good now?

[formal pilot]

Dude please suggest me a real Hindu book

I'll find scientific errors

[hushed bear]

Read upnishads

[hushed bear]

Lmao

[covert spear]

istg its too bad i got the massege after u sent by 1 min

[hushed bear]

I see

Btw how's gaza now?

[covert spear]

okay my internet is good rn

30kb

[hushed bear]

Good

[covert spear]

is it enough for vc?

[hushed bear]

Lmao 😂😂

[formal pilot]

Is it similar to Vedas?

[hushed bear]

Nopes

[covert spear]

okay idk

[hushed bear]

Here i am talking about 11 mukhya upnishads

[formal pilot]

I don't hate religions, i just don't believe in fairytales

[hushed bear]

Kinda

Huh
Shut
Ntg like that

[formal pilot]

Someone gifted me a veda, I'll read it

For research purposes

[hushed bear]

It was just about 1500 years ago
Although they were written earlier but corrected and re-established by adi shankaracharya at that time

[formal pilot]

I've generous friends

[hushed bear]

🥹🥹

[hushed bear]

You can read rig veda

I feel it's kinda okay

Not loading

[formal pilot]

I've read some portions of Yajurveda when I was researching on concept of god in Hinduism

[hushed bear]

Wth
Why aren't they loading

[hushed bear]

What's your philosophy?

@thorny steeple they aren't loading

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[hushed bear]

Lmao

Lmao
My wifi sucks

[formal pilot]

I hate philosophy, if you want to discuss psychology I'm the guy

[hushed bear]

A complete atheist

Why iran isn't attacking isreal
I'm waiting

Lmao

😂😂

[formal pilot]

Try to guess

[hushed bear]

Our spiritual telegram group

[hushed bear]

I do have many more
But this one is kinda especial

What is that

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-puke-puke-vomit-kitty-vomit-cat-vomit-gif-10902081098279086080

[hushed bear]

You better not to go by it

[formal pilot]

I'm into cognitive and evolutionary

Also biological

[hushed bear]

I think telegram is best for spirituality
We do discuss a lot of things over there

[formal pilot]

My man

[hushed bear]

What if i say dating isn't valid either?

What's wrong?

Why not
If they could change the adi shankara's dating then why can't they change it?

Say

Huh

No
Uff, you're a book completely filled with questions

You're weird
Ntg was wrong in (a lot of things)
And you can take it in a sensitive way as well
As we do discuss that
Haha

Lmao

[brave cloak]

anyone there?

[hushed bear]

Yesss

But not sure till when

As anything can happen anytime

[fringe folio]

Everybody here

[hushed bear]

Apparantly

[fringe folio]

Lets chatting

[hushed bear]

Huh

[oak sphinx]

Sometimes people from the middle East and North Africa don't like to be all called Arabs because they're not all Arabs and I totally understand. Same thing with Asian people. But why when it comes to Black people we don't think about ethnicity at all although there's a lot of different cultures, ethnicities and background and not everyone is necessarily from Africa. Or people don't care at all ?

[formal pilot]

Yeah dude black Chinese is a real thing

It's not like they only come from Africa

[oak sphinx]

You mean black people with Chinese nationality or there are black people with Chinese features ? I didn't know that

[formal pilot]

It just a meme

[oak sphinx]

Oh okay

[grave temple]

💀

what are u on billaden

[formal pilot]

I think it has something to do with historical - political aspects

[formal pilot]

I'm smoking sausages nowadays

Gtg

[thorny steeple]

@formal pilot

[thorny steeple]

You have to remember that Arabs mostly live in Middle East or North Africa, although we can find quite a lot of them in Brazil, for instance.
On the other hand, Black People had their cultures erased and were forcely sent to several countries around the world. The black ethnicity debate was brought up back some years ago, whereas Arab identity hasn't gone through all that - it was necessity to include all of those who were opressed under the same umbrella to make them feel part of the same thing (opression). Yet Arabs are opressed, and a lot of people in Algeria, for instance, has little if not none Arab DNA, but their bond is manifested mostly on their religion and not by an ethnical identity

[thorny steeple]

🤔

[oak sphinx]

That totally makes sense. Thank you for this

And I call you dumb

[prisma cipher]

[thorny steeple]

Argentinian spoted

Shit people