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Yes, I'm
Okay, imma send in dm okay?
Yeah, but nothing that can scare me or disgust me
what?
What's ur name mate?
Hi
Yes
No
maybe
lucky
Why lucky š
I ever been a lot of countries and I live in China
Maybe I will visit Japan again in next month
wdym living next to so many awesome asian countries while living in an awesome asian country is just awesomeāØ
i only stopped at narita airport when i went to seoul š¢
Oh yeah I guess š but I hope if I was born in North America
China is just⦠not bad
i hope i was born in asia
hi there š¤
Sri Lanka is Indianās Taiwan ?
But I didnāt see anyone talking about Indian reunification š¤
And their country is still divided
while they cooperate on many fronts, such as trade and investments, they also clash over certain gepolitical topics, particularly national security
in terms of reunification, there have been discussions about this, but those efforts have been unsuccessful given the sensitivities around the situation...
and trades

fine
Ik you, you just visit serious chat to spread flat earth propaganda
NO
hey guiys
I don't want to sound racist, but are you good in maths?
This is a stereotype of Chinese people. Mathematics is difficult for everyone.
In China, at most, arithmetic is slightly stronger than US, but math not stronger.
The difference between mathematics and arithmetic is very significantć
In Chinese, each numeral has only one vowel, so it's very easy to memorize the multiplication tables.This gives the illusion that Chinese people are naturally good at math, haha
not good in our places.
I see, I guess they gonna solve Pakistan and Bangladesh first. Sri Lanka is not prioritized.
unlike China, India has too much historical legacy problem like partition under British rule, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Pakistan, part of China and I do remember that Sri Lanka is directly ruled by British not in the British Raj
well, I know that Sino-Indian conflict and we call it South Tibet.
South Tibet if I do remember it was the British invasion against Qing Dynasty and Qing signed a treaty which ceded this part to Britain, and Indian claimed this part as their territory, but along with the establishment of the PRC, we denounced every unequal treaty signed by Qing and ROC.
but this part is controlled by India, till now.
Bhutan is historically belongs to China I guess... and I don't think any treaty is permanent, take territory by violence is what all they doing for more territory.
there is no such thing called international police which can focibly maintain the relations between those countries and once they break up the treaty only you can do is to fight to proof you are right.
British Empire
for now, I guess Indian big W for South Tibet, but China didn't lose actually.
isn't that communist revolutionary ideas ? denounce the ideology of religion, countries, nations, but using a wide term called human and people to justify their own actions and seek more benefit for themselves, we don't trust this shit lie and no one cares it.
utopia doesn't really exist.
idk if you are promoting some ideas like well-being of humanity sounds really crazy and dangrous like you are gonna use some pretext to invade the whole world and re-establish the global order like the hitler wants to do.
sorry for error texting, now it's edited and may express my idea properly.
"re-establish the world order under the aryan race, achieve great peace in humanity and purify the races."
there is no international if he succeeded.
that's why I said it's pretty dangrous, and very similar to the idea you expressed.
that is perfectly justified in Germany and most people believe it they even use their life to fight for this idea, and they lose.
"any idea, if it harms the general well-being of humanity as a whole is a shitty idea, like "communist revolutionary idea" of exanding their territory just cause they owned it centuries ago" that's what you said and I think it's just another holocaust waiting to create if you want to achieve not to harm the general well-being of humanity, very similar.
and I don't think general well-being of humanity is really superior
because according to you that if other ideas exist, you may gonna combat to it because that was your idea which you assumed your idea is superior, like Aryan races are superior, just shifted from races to ideas, that's why I said it's a communist revolutionary idea.
but how you gonna survive under this idea if you don't combat ? what if other's idea combat you ?
give me a reason that your idea could survive.
guns ? weapons ? missiles ? nukes ? I don't see any country has this ability and they can achieve it.
but, it's just about yours, not really the world, it's just like you are pretend that you love the world peace under this idea but you can't proof it since you have no forces.
even Mao zedong said "regime borns from guns"
I see.
I think it's impractical just like a extreme left-wing communist ideology.
we are doing our business in our home, and we are struggling to make our life better, our government work for the majority of our people.
and the unification would be everyone wants to see, and it will solve the current problem.
if we don't have our territory, we all unable to achieve everything.
we are maintaining the world peace but the world peace must benefit us, if it can't benefit us I'm not sure what it will keep going.
oh really ? let's see who have more nukes.
arms provide security, resources provide security, territory provide security, and independence provide security. for us
no it will never end up because everyone knows we have nukes so we are safe 100%
they may unsafe but we are 100% safe.
global order based on nukes 𤣠nuclear threat provided general safety
you will never see a nuke-owned country being invaded
BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE POWERFUL
their nuclear power is not that superior since we also has it š¤£
It's just a small clashs between two
oh really ? is there a nuclear threat between two powers ? come on you guys really don't have any chance to fight against us, dare you can use nuclear threat ?
also for us, we don't start a full-invasion because you are a nuclear power
you have your military
why you are questioning the functions of forces ?
hey chinese mate
that's your problem not me, our president not that stupid and I guess they will never do that.
even Soviet Union didn't do that
China literally claimed no first use for nuclear bombs.
then you know that function of forces why questioning ?
"dare you can use nuclear threat" is not bs, it happened during the cold war.
nope but it will happen in another conflict in the future.
"it's inevitable for war, when a sovereignty state has strong power" - einstein
I think it's more sick to not to think about that to be evasion about the future.
there will be more wars in the future which benefit the new powers and superpowers. not a non-power.
you will never see the Chinese bombers bombing the US, but the other places like in the South Tibet or South China sea.
of course š¤£
They expanded their border by 2mm
𤣠I recommend a book for you which called "The art of war" and it says no one benefits in a long-term war.
also Mao zedong's "On Protracted War"
Improve their K/D's
chinese mateee
yeah of course, Soviet Union dominated the east europe, US established the global order, China gets reunification and any other cases I needed to state ? I don't think Russia is not getting any benefit from the war but basically they are not winning.
Kill death ratios
What's your current K/D?
I think I racked up about 36 mosquitos this last summer r
Yes! It was a bad year š
the world you live in is based on the global order of the sole superpower, the United States.
You need to improve that ratio!
USA #1 or at least the top 10!!
That's the chant I'll do from now on
Have you seen the salt guns to kill bugs? š
So you think the order is not based on the peace but war š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ ?
Yeah it is
China is a great power not a superpower
He's a goner š¦
You can search it
Donāt you think itās the most peaceful times ever in human history? And it was based on the global order established by the US
COVID era was peaceful ngl
LMAO
It's before harambe was killed š
That time in based on global order of the sole superpower of the United States
Some of the major terrorist attacks+ riots + 2008 crash
What's the defination of peaceful times?
Regardless of the color of his body...this is when things took a turn for the worst
Globally
Flat earth was never the same again
I think at any given time awareness among people is directly proportional to the peaceful times
According to this logic, right now is the most peaceful era
Imo
Most of the people know about war and they're against it
Isn't it peaceful
Wars aren't new concept
It was here before
I think our world is never going to become more peaceful but more prosperous.
And the revolution of the industry will achieve the world peace ultimately
And only powerful civilization would survive in the future
It's fairytales
I donāt know if itās us or other civilizations who knows
Or powerful nations*
Sounds like religious to me
Yeah I guess, but the term of nation may outdated in the future, and another wide inclusive term will occupy the world like humanity
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And create another holocaust and unite world under one flag, one race, one religion? Idk but thatās what Lenin is thinking and he lose
Yeah there will be sides
It's hardwired in human brain to create and follow sides
And it's really important for survival also
Yeah of course thatās nature of human
So absolute peace is just an illusion
Do you think other animals are also possess the ability to be biased?
Animals?
Theyāre serving human
But different ways
Some are foods and some are pets
Lmao you defined slavery
I defend human
Are you a human ?
I defend your right
defend me please 
Arguably
Yeah of course they are
China respects religious people
But doesnāt respect the people who created mass and fight against our society
china is a racist country
Thatās about security, we actually do have our different opinions about sus
Most of the asian countries are
exactly
i think everyone like that not just china
I donāt think any country need more division š they are going to die if they are divisive
About racism, China isnāt really a racist country but full of nationalism
Korea, Japan also full of nationalism
Nationalism is a common thing in Asia
yes i approve with you
@shell lily Jerusalem is considered a holy land for 3 Abrahamic Relgions, which results in conflicts such as the great crusades/etc
no
actually arabs inhabited the land way before jews
to be more precise it was inhabited by tribes called Canaans
I knew that.
so why do they claim that its their land
I didn't I said considered.
considered doesn't mean it's always true
even their prime minister once said that they inhabited the land first
I don't doubt it.
you dont doubt what exactly
I don't doubt that arabs inhabited Jerusalem first.
you know its not even a problem of who inhabits the land first
in today's world who has the power seizes the land ..
I have to go out for breakfast so I'll continue this later.
okay
have a nice day
Itās easy to conquer, but itās hard to keep it.
There is no any country could ensure their security would not be threatened, everyone works for themselves, for their own interests.
Today itās yours and maybe tomorrow is others, I guess the six day war would be the perfect example.
About historical claim or something all shit pretext to justify their legitimacy
But they have to proof it, by power and force.
losers has no places to stand in this world.
Long time no see, I was a little busy these days.
One question for you, crypto is not allowed in China, then how do Chinese buy crypto?
since when has legally forbidden stuff been actually forbidden? š
they can buy like crazy, as long as they're careful.
VPN services is available in China
i don't know what you mean. using vpn means other countries don't allow you to buy crypto, not your country...
That's why I wrote "I don't want to seem racist"
I was just asking btw
I thought they were good at math because when I went to a Chinese store, there was a Chinese guy trying to solve the Rubik's Cube. They like logic and stuff
So I thought they also liked math, mostly logical reasoning
I mean yeah, kinda
But for china it'll be irrelevant
They're too huge economically
It's just propaganda made by Indian authorities, there's no threat
But it would be important to understand if there is a Chinese minority in this state
How can china justify this affront ?
Some tribes are there but they want to be the part of india
Are there natural resources in this area?
Hell yeah@feral river we need answer
what the actual fuck
But isn't he biased?
According to Google dolomite, quartzite, limestone, and marble.
Also Coal and petroleum
That was my reaction
We'll get China's perspective
why does xi kinda resemble Hanuman ji btw š¤”
So China only wants these territories for the resources
It's not fair
Wth 
I mean games the game
It's not just the resources
They believed that the land was theirs in the first place
But if there is a war, civilians will die not from ideological causes, but from economic causes
So in their minds it rightfully belongs to them
Like Russia says that Ukraine belongs to them just cause they were once part of Russia
I mean yeh but this is a different situation
It's the same
This strategy is old and has been used for all wars
I think the Russia Ukraine matter is more of imperialistic delusions and power plays
For example, the principle of self-determination of peoples was used after the First World War was all a trap to dissolve the opposing powers. It's the famous "divide et impera"
The same strategy is used for territorial disputes nowadays
Canaanites aren't Arabs, if anyone is Canaanite it's the Jews and Levant Arabs descended from them
It's like "my people are on this territory, I have the right to defend it" but this is not always true
Israelites killed or absorbed many of them, Arabs did too
I'm starving rn, I can't add anything
That's why I'm lurking
I'm starving too
I feel the desire to eat like a beast
Yesterday I ate a whole chicken, now it's the tuna's turn
did you do the fast?
For me, only on Fridays meat is prohibited now
Feel free to share pictures on #š§ļ½food
Not the debate of the Holy Land again
That's history
It isn't even a debate, if you search Canaan that is what you'll find
I know, lady of ice, the political debates here are just getting mundane. It's always religion, LGBT, and the Chinese guy defending the CCP
Some of the last non-Hebrew Canaanites to exist didn't even live in Canaan anymore, but inhabited Carthage and its colonies before their destruction and conquest led by Romans
I didn't fully read the context
Some people here like to manipulate past history for a reason or another
May you give a few names?
The guy I just replied to but there was also a guy that tried to say Rus'=Russia
Now we have a Russian nationalist to the group as well. The nationalists are growing in numbers as we speak
bro as a turk i dont wanna see this man pleaseeeeeeee
im beggin u
i born in 2003 and this guy became president in 2002 my whole life is this guy
its okay man im not racist eixgwkdusskxox
as a turk living in turkey i can say we turks really dont think about armenians at all, yep we have islamic and ultra nationalist people but they are just small percent
sorru for all grammer mistakes
Hey
they just shout
Ur name is wrong. Its Ankara makarna.
hey i know but i just wanted to be ankara accent
I know 
Most Turks don't like their government, and some territorial disputes have now been overcome
Hi
Turks speaking politic and fortunately they didnt fight
Greetings gentleman
hi
alr let's talk abt space n time here
when?
Interesting! Lets start with
You all know faster you move slower your time. So you see things around you faster than how it should be
But why though
Isnt that we live in the straight line of time
Is the timeline itself blendable
idts timeline itself would be bendable, otherwise we would often see time travellers here
now ik i sound far-fetched
and the fact that theory of relativity showcases that time travel in the future is possible, not past
but this idea clearly not defines the laws of relativity
@worn portal hello
I need to debate
we respect minorities, not some people using minorities to justify their sick idea to attack the unity of China and Chinese nation.
you can look at the example of Hui Chinese and other minority community unlike Tibetians and Uyghurs they stick their own idea to get more autonomy, to seek help from foreign powers, making society unrest, and more.
who the fuck is the owner of China ? who the fuck think they are superior so they don't have to follow the law that everyone needs to follow ? because they are different ? no, no one will tolerant that and no one can be irresponsible for their actions.
we must defend our country, our values, our interests, and we respect minorities. but if you want power, you may lose your life for it.
it's totally not about CCP, it's none of CCP's business, if you look at our history it was full of clashes against foreign powers and other groups which threats us and almost we all succeed.
is the need debating come from the urge to release negative energy?
I just felt, incredible because there is someone really could tolerant some people who actually threat their lifes.
"mercy to your enemy is ruthless to yourself. "
NOPE
it about
Why chocolate is better than chips

better in terms of what lol
idk every chips that I ate in my life where never as better than chocolate
Chocolate tastes like sweet and it soooo good but chips are just mid fr
I say we sue chips company
are you generally into sweets?
I eat sugar

literally just sugar
scaryyyyyyyy! stay away from me š¢
Saying raw felt sus
shut
Literally sweets are everything
What do you prefer than
I swing both ways
joke of the day
Didn't you invade Tibet under Mao and then do ethnic cleansing and mass migration to assimilate it?
Were Phoenicians and Punic colonies Arabs?
Or did you not send troops into Korea during the Korean War between 1950 and 1953 to support a dictatorial government and contribute to the deaths of 3 million people?
did you learn that from jewish websites? i dont blame you
Or did you not massacre the Turkish Islamic community in the northern Chinese regions and turn their mosques into public toilets?
I guess they don't have schools wherever you live
https://www.harrassowitz-verlag.de/titel_544.ahtml
And what about Hong Kong and Macau?
@dusty void
Literally the next message I sent lol, I said that Israelites killed the other Canaanites or absorbed them
@formal scaffold
Berbers predate Arabs in North Africa, some mixed with the Punic people that may have been descended from Phoenicians from the Levant so idk what this is supposed to prove
so the author is wrong?
did you even read it?
The author didn't say anywhere that Berbers are Arabs, it says that they may have mixed with Canaanites which is likely
Yes, did you? Because it isn't saying whatever you're trying to say
Thus in the Global Arabic Encyclopedia, published in Saudi Arabia, the Canaanites and their affiliated tribe the Jebusites are said to be an Arab people who emigrated before the āJewsā around 2500 b.c.e. to Palestine from the Arabian Peninsula.
So they're purposefully spreading disinformation in the Arab world, good to know
Even in linguistics Canaanite languages don't include Arabic, most of them are extinct if not all except Hebrew
sounds like a you thing lol
Canaanite languages, group of Northern Central or Northwestern Semitic languages including Hebrew, Moabite, Phoenician, and Punic. They were spoken in ancient times in Palestine, on the coast of Syria, and in scattered colonies elsewhere around the Mediterranean. An early form of Canaanite is
Says the people who watch bbc cnn (Interviews editors)

We don't have those TV networks in my country but thanks for moving to an ad hominem straight away
Still , Someone like you doesn't have the "you have misinformation" card ma'am
It's disinformation, show me one source where Arabic is included under the Canaanite languages
And if Canaanites are Arabs then you're telling me Romans were fighting Arabs throughout the three Punic Wars? Disinformation at its finest, these are studied in elementary school
I want to keep debating about chocolate and chips
what is this debate
Maybe the most engaging ancient wars
Two almost equally strong countries fight each other on land and sea
FRRRR
In 2nd one Rome received a blow
LITERALLY
Yes chocolate is better
Average Ukraine supporter
Politic comments are allowed? š¤ I didn't expect finding that here
All this chat is implicitly political
Let me tell you this, son. Since the birth of this channel, political debates have ensued for centuries
By this I mean the government, not the people
Not like it makes it valid. I guess this channel has received a special decree that had allowed it to continue this political landscape
How do you support the people without supporting their government?
What's the channel main objective?
Because the government is incompetent
It is but I don't get the point
The point is that I don't support Ukraine government
There should be a neutral government, neither pro-Russian nor pro-Western
Lol
The fake neutrality
A government that is neither pro-Russian, neither pro-independence
I say this because Ukraine is not suitable for the European Union
Because it is not a perfect democracy, and it would destabilize the union on an economic level. It is clear that Ukraine will have to be rebuilt, no one knows by whom, but if it is the EU it would certainly be an advantage for our economies, but The problem will come later, because companies will start to relocate to invest in countries where labor costs less, and this could instead be a serious damage. Furthermore, the richer countries of the union must pay the funds for the less developed countries, this means more taxes for the citizens
The EU already pays a lot for countries in the East, especially Poland that by far gets the most funds, rebuilding Ukraine is better for them and for us because it will create more jobs
I don't think Ukraine will be allowed in the EU, North Macedonia isn't, neither is Albania, I don't see how Ukraine could when it's worse than Moldova
But there will be damage later + it is not convenient to add another country to the list of countries to be supported economically
And this is why Ukraine needs a non-aligned government
It's for having, "deeper more insightful conversations". But in practice, most of the time the chat spirals into everything but that
I mean, Ukraine, as you said, will not join the Union, it is worth having a non-aligned government
well yes, that's what they do, they annexed Tibet, they sent troops into Korea and they cause famine, that's all truth.
but any other choices available ? no
you will never leave your 500 dollars in your pocket
why you think we gonna give them this land ?
I don't understand totally.
what we can have if they have those land ?
Bro, It's like saying "I commit genocide because I have the opportunity to do so"
huh ? do you know what you are talking about
genocide for what ?
genocide is a measure not a goal, genocide for what, FOR WHAT ?
war is also a measure not a goal, then for what
To make room for your people in Tibet
for our interest, for our lifes, for our prosperity
And in the region of the Turks
that's our home, not making room, we do whatever we want in our home, I don't think anyone could interfere our internal issues.
who the hell tell you that region of the Turks ?
that's the region of Chinese
But that wasn't your home
that is
you will see it's my home
or we will take it by force
Then why there are people of different ethnicities and faiths?
they are chinese citizen legally under the law of the People's Republic China
and they have freedom of religion
They are de jure Chinese but de facto they are not
then how do you gonna explain the Tibetian and Uyhgur officials in government job and CCP ?
Why are mosques destroyed then?
that's not mosques that's a places which generate terror and fear, creating social unrest.
they did
and we will not tolerant it
This is a grace, at least they have the opportunity to represent their region in politics š
don't think they can irresponsible for their actions because they are different, actually they are not different under the law of PRC
they are Chinese citizens.
Then there are real concentration camps in China for these people
And then they can't even speak Chinese
yes, those camps called re-education camps which directly managed by Xinjiang Local Army.
you can not to speak Chinese in China as Chinese citizen.
And what do you think happens in these "re-education" camps?
And then you didn't answer me about Macau and Hong Kong
of course I know because my friend is working in the camp and they are tortuning the political criminals
Who are the political criminals for the Chinese regime?
the people who were sent to this camp are mostly criminals under the law of PRC, of course it has small cases reported false cases.
the people who created social unrest, threat national security, and fight against the police, etc.
Why are the living conditions in these camps so bad? Why aren't human rights respected?
Thank you
the human rights you mentioned is from the United States and western values, we have our different views about human rights.
Is wanting independence a threat to national security?
of course it was.
no doubt.
no one will tolerant this, even Chinese people.
So your human rights are to make people shit on the floor?
Or what?
of course lmao
secession is a threat to order and stability to a country
Man, as a thinking being, has the right to dignified treatment
nope, if you look over our legacy or current situation you will know that some people doesn't really deserve any right, even criminals do have right to defend themselves but some special criminals doesn't have it.
if texas decided to seceed, america will use force to have it back
its common knowledge
They are two different cases, don't speak without knowing bro ššš
Do criminals deserve dignified treatment when they treat people indignity, I think no.
Let me bet, you're also in favor of the death penalty, right?
Its an example
not favor but definitely not more favor to demolish it.
It's an example that doesn't fit
those people doesn't really deserve to occupy the resources in this world.
Why couldn't you make the minorities you oppress independent?
Pulling out all the western media bullshit trying to lecture us how to run out country
Get your head out of the sand and forget imperialism
I said we don't oppress minorities, we oppress criminals.
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minorities != criminals, but some people are.
Yes true
There are a lot of radicals and extremists in xinjiang
So we build prisons to house them
You consider independentists as criminals, independentists belong to a minority, so...
of course it was. no doubt š¤£
separatists criminals
Have you ever had any doubts that this is Chinese propaganda?
Why?
Have you ever had any doubts that this is Western propaganda?
Have you ever been to China? Have you been to Xinjiang?
What's wrong with them? They just want independence, they don't harm you
I guess not. Therefore, basing your arguments on foreign media that are agressive and sinophobic, is flawed.
Of course they harm us. Xinjiang is filled with precious ressources.
Our ressources
why ? let me ask you if someone live in your home and he tells you he want this part of your home and become independent 𤣠𤣠𤣠𤣠𤣠𤣠𤣠𤣠𤣠š¤£
will you accept it ?
No, the West does not carry out propaganda, this is for a simple reason: our newspapers are independent, they can also criticize the government, and yours?
Yes, so true. CBC, BBC, CNN are all funded by Western governement.
oh yeah ? we can criticize our government and your right to criticize government doesn't proof anything.
You think they are "independent" but they are all bought and owned by businessmen
Broo, I'm the guy who wants independence ššš
with ties with the governement
oh you realized because you want independence so you promote them, then I'm gonna tell you I'm the guy who fuck up those people especially in my home and they want to independence.
any words left ?
You haven't understood, not only ordinary citizens can criticize the government, but also television, everyone, there is full freedom of opinion
yes I see freedom of opinion, but where is your freedom of eating ?
Freedom of opinion, so ironic
try saying you are against LGBTQ in America
you will be shot in 0.2 nanoseconds
Freedom of speech in the US is a facade
I'm not even against LGBTQ in China 𤣠I respect them
Yessir, you are a war criminal, you promote ideologies aimed at exterminating a people, for what? At the whim of your government, you are like this brainwashed that you can't even conceive that another people can live in peace by detaching themselves from your country
"At the whim of your government" Who send thousands of young Americans to die halfway across the world?
The American Nazi Party exists, isn't that enough????šššš
Yessir, you are a criminal literally and I'm 100% legal under my local government and your ideology would cause much trouble to our society so better not to come here and you will know how our people gonna shit up your ass.
And you do the nazi salute in the street, you will be beat up
same as saying the n-word
How would it cause harm????
as same as you say N word in the street.
It doesn't mean anything
you can try it and you will know what it means
If a group of people wants to become independent, what harm does it do to China?
Already tried
They laughed
those group of people doesn't really exist, if it exist we will make them doesn't exist.
A racial slur doesnt do anything
just like racists in America
sure buddy
"but our country is not a totalitarian dictatorship"
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that's funny bro
You are the funniest
maybe if you like it
No more arguments?
why more because you are just using your values to evaluate us and who tf cares that we will continue our own way and you don't even know what US gov did
You have to explain to me why we Europeans had to grant independence to their colonies, while China has the sacred right to do nothing
because, they are under threat by america.
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How? Even if they don't join, it's not like they don't have positive diplomatic ties
Fakeee
why would you think they gonna leave it for free ? they are not giving that for free but they are under threat by another superpowers, America and Soviet Union
yes yes it's fake so continue to making your day dream and I'm gonna do something really realistic.
next time if you have any accusaions I will just simply send this screenshot
I wish you a good day, even if China is a tyrant state and wants harm from other peoples
Nice argument
Lol
have a nice day too
When your ideas of life become "different", you just lose your respect and care
And it is absurd that a person cannot speak their own language, practice their own culture and faith because of a tyrant state
That's respect, right?
Right
its unbelievable of the double standard Western people
What's the topic?
its okay when america assimilates native americans but its bad when other countries do it
never said it was good
Yeah ik
but saying ughurs cant speak their language, their culture and food is false
its legit called Xinjiang Autonomous region
Everbody knows whats US literally doing to the world but at the same time nobody looks like they care
They are both equally bad.
We built prisons to house the extremists and radicals
no not turkey
Everybody knows about Turkestan here
I know i didn't say its turkey
Got more influence when isreal-palestine conflict started
mhm
So why are you defending china?
I don't defend America for the crimes it has committed, and I'm not even American
Why are you attacking China?
If someone was badmouthing my friend, of course I would defend them
Same principle
Every countries has its flaws and its pros
You are only focusing on the negative part
I don't see you shaming America for its illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan
That's just being a bigot
A rational man would never justify a person because they're just their friend
Oh thank you for throwing insults. Im sure it justifies your point even more
Well I guess you never had real meaningful friendships in your life
I would die for some of my friends
And also comparing a friend and a goverment is stupid
Because how they helped me in life overall
I did, and i still do
I am not defending the CCP
Its all good then
I acknowledge some of its policies are bad and should be revoked but hating on a country and its people because of its governement is wrong
And that was what the other guy was doing
Saying because the Chinese have the CCP, all Chinese support the CCP and its policies
Nah never hate a nation and its people because of its goverment
Never
Like me myself as a Turk, i hate how politics work here and the goverment
It would have been inappropriate to talk about America while talking about China
But I condemn American aggression towards other countries, as well as Chinese aggression
It's wrong?
I just start to get angry when certain people start denying the evidence
And i'm sure a wise person would never hate a nation just because how goverment handles it
We all know goverments are the reason for these
In fact I don't blame Chinese people for this, but only their government
On the contrary, I feel it's relevant to compare a country which is known for its "Freedom" and "Democracy" while saying Chinese people aren't free.
What evidence, you didn't show anything to support your points
I can do it
The only thing you've done until now is slander China
You said that Chinese people openly support their governement and its policies.
Didn't the boy from before support his government's atrocious actions?
Yes, so that's it
And does he represent the entirety of the Chinese people?
I guess not. Stop making ridiculous falacies, you are only embarassing yourself
I don't think so, there's nothing embarrassing to tell the truth
You can see the image I sent, I'm not talking nonsense, but someone else is
And anyway I can't understand why you feel offended, is this a sensitive issue in China?
@thorny steeple see what i mean
Yeah yeah i got it
there's no point in having a constructive conversation with you
Just don't care about it, it's a public place where every single random person can debatw
its not debating at this point, its slander, misinformation and propaganda
He is not saying he supports CCP though
Even if he does, we don't know
If we did know, what would that change?
What kind of propaganda?
You don't get anywhere if I say something and you keep denying it, try to argue instead
Now this is not about supporting the CCP, but about genocide
I don't know if he supports the genocide
I didn't see if he said anything about that
He denies it
Understandable
Or simply calls them as criminals
If he is a nationalist it is really understandable
Who would want to make their nation look bad?
I would because I'm not a nationalist!!
No one, but people should know what is happening in the rest of the world
Me too
A modern human should not assosiace themselves with a nation, instead with the world
But, who knows, maybe I'm wrong
šthat's right
I only associate myself with my supreme divine rulers, reptiles
heartless hearts
@thorny steeple the Mod @azure folio Removed my permissions to talk in the falt earth channel just for asking question
I'm clearly not a CCP supporter and I literally oppose the policy which label those people as terrorist and put them into the freaking concentration camp, and at least, treat them as a normal criminal not a political criminal, they don't really deserve it if they don't know the situation in China. they need education not tortuning while education. the law should protect those people and they also need a chance to regret the thing they do.
You can parse through the chat history and see that I avent said anything offensiev, or even Sweeared
Let me have a look
Thank you
The Mod @azure folio has tagged a rule that suggests that whoever he deems to be lying will get banned
this does not facilitate any oppisiton to his arguments
what is the point of the channel if we cant even contradict his statements that go against his beleifs
hmm š¤
mind typing a little less about your appellate attempt
Just asking man
its a fair question
how are you supposed to discuss anything then ?
I mean, you do have great points
but you also seem to specifically talk about yourself now
we know that it's unfair, okay?
If you got that then i'll stop
so ye
we know now; stuff'll be resolved soon
keep #š§ ļ½serious-chat open for all please
k
There's no point arguing in #1218635314000560248
I have spent over 3hr
I used all of the formulas that they're using to prove earth is flat, to prove earth is not flat
They started to ignore me
The mod I mentioned just DM'ed me saying that it's his channel so he will remove who he wants
I have a screenshot
It's pointless to argue with em
I don't think so, that channel is special
We should have a plaque with that written on it, as people don't seem to understand that arguing with flat earthers is stupid
Hell yeah
It's like talking with a brick
A very stubborn wall is also a good metaphor
You could do anything else, and it would be a better use of your time
Dude serious chat is heaven ngl
If you want to discuss anything
We can also talk about flat earth here
Gravity destroys the flat earth arguement
Oh yeah
But they have some other explanation for that
thing is, you dont need to even know science to argue, you just need to demonstrate your point with people who do know science
They cant justify those things
They say it's not gravity
It's something to do with density
I've also proved that it's linked to gravity
Lmao
They were using this principle to describe gravity
It has gravity
Anyway, it's pointless
š I dont know anything about physics but cool i guess š
To argue with em
Dude I'm sucker for physics
physics?
Hell yeah
easy
I know, it's their stupidity
The thign is they will neve explain why the government would do that
or every government lol
The root of problem lies where they believe everything else is a conpiracy theory, while ingoring the fact that their ides are based on conspiricaies.
My handwriting could never be like that 
there is ! if earth can be flat why can't earth be my d ?
I am here
Cuz flat isnāt earth
Earth is croissant
because you're b**ch
Ayo-
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LINAAA HI
HRUU
Anyway whatās the topic
Lgbtq
GOOD! WBU?
Oh š
Not my field of interest, might leave tbh
@lapis delta what was the clown

Wait, my delulu role got removed šæ
Wait whattt, but there are men who are dressing up as woman just for attention and wrong actions, not because that is who they are. What do you say about them?
It got removed for everyone
Yeah, but saying the LGBTQ+ community doesnāt have pedophiles is also a lie
Weāre not generalizing, weāre just pointing out that there are people like that out there (Iām also not saying that pedophiles only exist in the LGBTQ+ community, Iām saying they are everywhere unfortunately)
Pedophiles, straight or not, should be locked up
...well, it does mean that they do not belong in the community
at least I haven't ventured upon the "who is a pedophile?" thing :>
(please don't for now, as well-)
I'm just interpreting your words
Anyone whoās willing to debate about this topic should already know what a āpedophileā is
I donāt think we need to define it
18-year/17-year relationships are apparently extremely controversial lately, that's why
If not, Google exists
Why now everybody are wokes leftitis
lol
I'm sorry I don't like that stuff
anyway, it's not clearcut at times :>
They shouldnāt be, thatās a one year age gap
No one remembers anything when they were 0 or 1 š
While I donāt support the LGBTQ+ community, I do respect it
But, blaming the entire community for one personās action is outrageous
sentence no. 2 won't be contested
sentence no. 1 can be taken the wrong way, I feel
I agree with this
in some countries there is no age of consent
if you were to officially go by the science, a pedo must be
- at least 18 years of age
- at least 5 years older than their target
I understand it can be taken the wrong way, but itās true
laws do not affect the definition of the word; it does make someone liable for being a child sexual offender
this is when terms are really part of the issue, I believe
I'm just telling you the age criteria for it to be an official disorder
there are other terms for other cases
And it also depends on the ages of both partners
For example, a 13-year-old and an 18-year-old being in a romantic relationship is crazy
But, a 30-year-old and a 35-year-old isnāt very strange
Since the maturity gap closes
mood
True
you offer the law aspect, I offer the psychiatry (?) aspect, I believe :p
guys do your conversation on some imp. topics, there are so many things after LGBTQ+, pedo etc.
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please retype your question
Serious chat should be for any discussion we wish to have, it shouldnāt be limited to certain topics
Whatās the problem of pedo
I canāt tell if you phrased your question wrong or if youāre actually asking
Iām asking whatās the freaking problem of pedo
Do you ever heard loli ?
is there any result or benefit of this discussion ?
is that "why are pedophiles in the wrong" or "why are pedophiles so problematic"? please select which question you're asking here
I think you donāt respect some legit cultures in somewhere
...that would be question 1
The āfreakingā problem is that a child, a victim, who doesnāt deserve to get traumatized and hurt in this way, is, because of a mentally ill adult who cannot control themselves.
What if that child is likely to sex ?
š
every other day ppl just feel new sexual attraction and start to protest to make it a certified community/gender
useless
who's yappin
dunno
What does that mean
the china mainland is yappin
or really, is that damaging normal citizen's property?
Yappin
O
It will never change then š why would they gonna change because of you ?
Are you the leader of East Asia ?
Who the tf thinks you are
Hi Mike
Hi chinese mate
in some parts of greece its even glorified
Just because you have thoughts about it doesnāt mean you should do it
There is a time for everything
hello
Mike is a cute character in stranger things
its my name duh
Hi Miku
we got mike and miku?
yeah
Even a Mika
I go by āZozoā I just had a Miku pfp for awhile š
amazing
zoza al lazoza
You're my Miku

i Did NOT
Jesus christ what u talking about ?
May father guide you
nah im too lazy
may the big bang or nature guide you
Oh yes you canāt justify anything by saying itās yours just like you have a group of people like LGBT we also have a group of people who loves loli
They also have group of people who follow the terrorism and they got cracked freaking down get killed
You canāt justify it
are you sigma
Iām using your logic to give that back to you
TIL a statistically significant number of members in this server misspell "heretic"
finally, something to tease you: one community wishes no harm, and the other... isn't that clearcut
what is social anxiety?
š
Oh yeah you justifies your LgBT people are normal community then why our people is not a normal community?
im sigma dude
? So unfair then
i'm sigma
Sigma gang baby
No, LGBT are not normal.
but when they do, it must be "heritic" š
You speech justifies nothing
china stop yapping
English knowledge for ya: saying "period" out loud is a good way to emphasize the period, period.
Well one is legit culture and the other is illegal in some places, decide by yourself
Do lesbian women hate men?
not necessarily
they do
then don't ask š
forcing an answer after receiving another answer is...
rather bad manners
Yes a culture can be wrong too, LGBT people are making social unrest threat national security, but pedos are doing their job under the law which is legit
let the topic end naturally
what is in ur dms?
Yeah you know that Russia banned LgBT people because they are extremists
Anti-extremism
that problem of wording again
Itās you are saying that not me
because neither is right lol
will i be called pedo if i dm u?
probably not until there's proof to the contrary
i hate CCP
I didnāt do that but you clearly have a standard called double standard on different things and questioning me with shit questionsš
ahh
when nothing is right anymore
I just asked whatās wrong with pedo
nah
as i said Im a sigma
Then you started arenāt you ?
?
to be fair, one can not know what's wrong with being one
...they'd be less offensive when asking though
Nothing wrong with that because they are a pedo under the protection
sigmas
can i adopt a 17 years old girl if i become 18 ?
if the country you will reside in allows for that close an age gap, probably
stop simping for those commius
where I live, you must be at least 20 years older than the one being adopted š
2024 ppl justifying their own sick idea is nice and using double standards to argue another idea saying they are sick people š would be crazy generalizing
...you are not helping your case, actually
and i will become a dady?
Pedo is not a sick idea bruh, but LgBt isā¦
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what u saying
I donāt think you can question an entire culture since you are in a different culture with that
Then I can do that too based on your logic, any culture promoting LgBT is wrong
Your wrong worth nothing
Itās biased
Are you guys still debating the same topic?
Well I will end it with, one is legal and one is not
yes miku
You know which one is illegal
you all blundered: lawfully speaking, the entire world is at odds with itself
I know that too
you do not use the laws to defend your points, really
They are both illegal depending on the area
but we haven't explicitly allowed LGBTQ+ peeps in our laws yet
i heard pedo is legal in russia
a 17/14 relationship is lawfully acceptable here š¤
oh, that is better
Russia stands out as a sucker to that though
Being a pedo is illegal everywhere
and a few others
anyway, you should not use the laws to defend your points like this
there are manipulatively bad laws :3
age of consent being 13:
Oh right š
lgbt is disgusting
you're delulu
it's 16 here too
there are significant countries setting it at younger than 16 though
age of what is 16?
age of sexual consent
Ahmmm
are you sigma
In my home country the age of consent is 18
Where I currently live I believe itās 16
Yeah man
where do u live?
making it futile to argue about age laws
Iād prefer not to share
Wtf is that
You realized that š
I didnāt ārealizeā I knew all along š
nah actually it was invention of Israel
there used to be a tribe in israel called loot tribe
Which means pederasty or gay
@feral river hey chinese mate
Do u use tiktok
so are their supporters
I don't use that actually I don't like something in the tiktok and it's super boring to me
for spend times on tiktok, I rather watching youtube or read books or read articles.
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stop roasting me bish
Cuz it's too small
U study also?
What
Ancient Greeks, Ancient Romans, Ancient Egyptians just to name 3
My dm is close for all
kan vi snakke, eallinde sagde det du kan dansk?
I Can danish yes
altsƄ, kan vi snakke i dms?
š
even though it's clearly an offer to move the chat, you must still talk in English
hmm, soon
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ahem?
check my roles rq
check what this channel is
you both did occupy a lot of space
jeg forstƄ, MENNNN, kan du besked mig
jeg lƦrer og vil gerne have nogen at snakke med
who else is talking rn?
I am...?
you have lost my trust
the thing being I can't even start a topic
ofc you can
...unless this is one
you never tried to
that is exactly why I told you to just stop
no it isnt
I Can only translate for ya
you can have like 3 convos at once
that is still hogging the channel for yourself
yea thats fine
no it isnt?
Yeah dude you can't have hw like me, it is shit
Sounds great
other people can talk here its nothing crazy
negation does not make it right -.-
nice, can you dm me then please to open them?
i didnt just negate, i gave a point
welp
can #š§ ļ½serious-chat even be less serious :p
right you can stop yapping now, im gonna go have a shower
you occupied this channel for nothing first; thanks for your cooperation
What we discussing rn?
just tried to remove some interference
we have yet to decide the topic for... weird reasons
Sounds interesting
i didnt occupy it, i borrowed a section, its not like i stopped all contact between everyone else
Your just overthinking it, nobody is interfering if you're having a conversation. Just keep talking to whoever you were talking too
ye
anything you wanna talk lul
