🧠｜serious-chat

[frank furnace]

Non-denoms, yes

[noble igloo]

yeah can u tell to us it will be clear

[frank furnace]

🤔

[noble igloo]

As a Muslim ı didnt like this remark

[frank furnace]

4 wives. Interesting

[noble igloo]

where are u from my brother

just a question

[slow storm]

Y

[pearl cypress]

Rabi is an Islamic word which means my lord so

[frank furnace]

A Place
Where I Can
Have Only One Wife
By Law

Take a guess?

@hallow tendon

I suppose Parent #1, Parent #2, etc.,
Much like gender inclusive language

[chrome token]

Take care
Rabbi يعني حاخام

[feral river]

I don’t think a place that you can only have one wife by law is special.

[formal scaffold]

https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/13/discord-bans-misgendering-and-deadnaming-in-hate-speech-policy-update-glaad/

[frank furnace]

I suppose monogamy laws actually suck. For the Muslims in my place, I feel bad for the fact that their life is restricted.

All the polycule and polyamorous families.

The suffering is bad.

[feral river]

Different places with different cultures and different laws

We shall respect that I think, and we have to obey the law where you at.

[balmy matrix]

why are they clapping lol

[feral river]

Just like I can’t eat dogs in Korea 😭

[thorny steeple]

Wdym

Oh..

right they banned eating dogs

and honestly imo thats a good thing but i can how it might not be for you

[vapid hare]

Such a shame, dog eater lives matter too ✊

[formal scaffold]

indeed I'm suffering 😢 I'm the living proof ...... someone save me from ISLAM pls

[covert spear]

wdym?

whats ur prob with islam?

[formal scaffold]

How's korea so far?

[formal scaffold]

I saw you preaching anti Islam stuff, I might be wrong, but take into consideration that 2billion point something people are Muslim
+

keep in mind Muslims aren't using underhanded methods like monetizing people who becomes Muslims like x and y that did that to most Africans, and offred visa's and handsome offers

which makes any "muslims are leaving islam" argument weaker ig

[covert spear]

man

are u muslim?

[feral river]

What is point that make you think it’s really matter ?

I don’t know actually

I see there is a global order dominated by factions, countries, ideologies, not races, religion and other stuff anymore.

[formal scaffold]

the vedio was about muslims leaving islam and the dude was making a point using that vedio as an argument for how bad islam is

[formal scaffold]

I was thinking that too, but if you take into consideration mental health itll be diffrent

[feral river]

muslims are definitely not leaving islam until the disappear of their main contradiction

[formal scaffold]

keep in mind that most people are practicing religion to an extent where it does benefit them so most of them are still into whte u mentioned, faction countries economy system etc

I was using qwerty keyboard, talk about a pain to type, I wonder how chinese keyboard works

[feral river]

Qwerty

but I think it's a nice keyboard and I'm using it when I was using computer

like more than 15 years

I'm mastering the qwerty keyboard

wait is there another keyboard available besides this one ?

I don't even know that

qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm

[formal scaffold]

azerty is the one I use

there are even custome keyboards

[feral river]

this one ???????

how do you gonna use it I curious

I guess there is no other keyboards besides qwerty in China

[grave temple]

phone whiteboard

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ixtfo3I4VE check this one lol

[feral river]

impossible.

[formal scaffold]

I'm used to it since it's common here, since I live in an a country that used to be a french colony lol

[feral river]

damn incredible

I though there is only qwerty keyboard and the whole world is standardized by this one.

[formal scaffold]

mostly yeah

what's your fastest wpm?

[feral river]

wpm ? what is that

[formal scaffold]

word per minute

https://monkeytype.com/

[feral river]

hummm idk maybe I should have a test ?

[formal scaffold]

you can check in here

[feral river]

nice

[formal scaffold]

that's easy since there's no comma or anything

there are better website that offers piece of texts that are sampled from books, you might be interested in that?

[feral river]

maybe but I need to take a lesson right now so I have to leave my computer 🤣

[formal scaffold]

gluck ttyl 👋🏾

https://www.typination.com/

[feral river]

Have a nice day ❤️

[frank furnace]

Yo, its April fools man. Regardless, I wanted the thoughts of Muslims about the Imam who made that statement. Is this accurate or not?

I don't know if you noticed, I was defending Islam when there were no Muslims around from the Christians, and atheists. I brought up the point Islam being the fastest growing religion, and the West will become Muslims in a few decades.

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[vapid hare]

You're saying the great replacement theory will actually happen then?

[oak sphinx]

Sometimes I hear people on the internet talk about ' cultural appropriation ' and I don't really get it.
For record I'm from the ' minority ' and I'm more than happy when I see foreigners embracing our culture, food, slang etc.
Now I've noticed that most of the time it's the ' majority ' who is actually offended by the appropriation.
So what is the line you should not cross that will take you from cultural appreciation to cultural appropriation?

[frank furnace]

Sounds like some well known conspiracy theory

[vapid hare]

Ah you've never heard of it then . So pretty much, its a far-right theory that suggests there is a deliberate plan to replace white populations in Europe and North America with non-white immigrants, particularly Muslims.

[formal scaffold]

idk about that, surely the west is a place that welcomes a lot of cultures and religions but i doubt they'd adapt islamic regime, also I apologize for incriminating u as I suggested I wasn't sure about yr intentions 👍🏾

[frank furnace]

Lets not go there, buddy. These are fairy tales for adults like flat earth.

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNXm7juuM-8&pp=ygUXY3VsdHVyYWwgYXBwcm9wcmlhdGlvbiA%3D

[frank furnace]

I couldn't care less even if aliens replace us all.

[oak sphinx]

Well I don't really agree. Yes Islam is a major religion but a religion with many strict rules ( other religions also have strict rules but they will usually not care much ). And those strict rules are not exactly on the same wavelength as behaviors of the western people ( sex before marriage, not fully covering your body, etc ).
Yes Islam definitely gain popularity in Asia, Middle East and Africa but definitely not in the West

[frank furnace]

It's okay fren. I get crucified often enough.

[formal scaffold]

this guy has dn that before and he get the same result you are speaking of, I think the only instance of cultural appropriation crossing the line that I can think of is when some black people said that they invented the dreads therefore the dreads are part of their culture but it's a cultural appropriation in itself since they took it from the Vikings and Norse people, so in conclusion I'd say it's when I see people prohibiting others from using smth and claim to be theirs while it's not

[formal scaffold]

muslims aren't a race tho some of them are white

[vapid hare]

Maybe a more liberal version of Islam will catch on instead?

[vapid hare]

True true, like bosniaks, albanians, chechens, and such.

[formal scaffold]

is there a connection between easter and april fools?

[oak sphinx]

Nah I don't think so. I've lived in a Muslim country for like 6 months and they are pretty conservative. Although there are many that are hypocrite about being angels they definitely follow their rules. Some of them got easily offended when you didn't follow the religion ( for them Muslim country = everyone is Muslim ) and other wanted to convert you because it's the ' direct gate to heaven '

And there is for example France that was against hijab

[formal scaffold]

"Gates to Heaven" ❌
"Bill Gates" ✅ 🤑

[vapid hare]

I see. Which muslim country are you referring to btw? Cause there are muslim-majority countries that are also officially secular (like mine)

[formal scaffold]

I can think of Egypt, Turkey, and lebanon, and maybe iraq (as secular countries wink wink)

[oak sphinx]

Algeria. Not secular at all. You weren't allowed to eat openly during the day during Ramadan. You faced jail

[formal scaffold]

I'm from Algeria and you can do that in Kabyle area, like Tziz ouzo, Bejaia, boumerdes, Some parts of setif, bouria and boumerdes

those are wilayas, think of them as states ig

[vapid hare]

Damnn, I didn't know algeria was such an intolerant country

[oak sphinx]

Oh okay I did know the Kabyle area was open but I didn't have this information

[formal scaffold]

I heard about the law, but I live there, never seen such a thing, some ppl are taking drugs and smoking in daylight you can take my word for it

[vapid hare]

Turkey especially, that one is very secular if I remember correctly

[oak sphinx]

Like @formal scaffold said it depends on where you are.

[vapid hare]

So there are areas where you're allowed to eat and some areas where you aren't, is that right? @formal scaffold

[formal scaffold]

add to that the desert areas in Algeria are rules mainly by people called "Twareg" , basically they roam the desert lawless (mostly) they make their own rules and regulations and live a traditional life

[oak sphinx]

Yes that's one of the things I didn't understand while I was there. The fact that Muslims do not eat during Ramadan to keep their body pure but some people smoke while fasting. What's the point

[formal scaffold]

yeah basically it's just spoken to limit eating in public places during ramadhan since it harms those who are trying their best to fast

[oak sphinx]

More about the mentality of the people in certain areas

[jolly agate]

god fead them lets go with that

😂 not the best answer

[formal scaffold]

yeah, there's none, it's just a tradition at this point, it's kind part of culture, but some people are honest about it

[vapid hare]

There are muslims who don't want to see others eating while they're fasting I guess (even if those eating are not muslim themselves)

[formal scaffold]

I bet you visited the northern areas, such a waste of yr time Ig, people from the inner parts are more welcoming and hospitable

I live in the capital btw

[vapid hare]

"i was fasting and i fell and a shawarma fell in my mouth with extra tahini and a slice of apple and around 3 liters of water should i keep fasting or is it allah who has fed me"

[oak sphinx]

Yeah definitely. I thought that too

[jolly agate]

Allah fed you 😂😂😂😂

[restive brook]

Hey there !!!...Where are you from ???...

[jolly agate]

Don’t eat again though, unless Allah want to fed you again

[restive brook]

don't say allah,allah here !!!

[jolly agate]

in that case he might add some bonuses

[oak sphinx]

Yes crazy. I'm religious and if fasting is about the relationship with God not people. So if you're really serious about it you would not be offended. It's more like they are forced by the society

[vapid hare]

He might feed me a buffet next time

[jolly agate]

maybe

[formal scaffold]

intentions are what matters true

[oak sphinx]

I had to study there but moved to another country

[formal scaffold]

where are you from if I may ask?

I mean what uni u went to lol

[vapid hare]

When you're fasting, you're supposed to also control your emotions, not just thirst and hunger. So I don't get those people who are offended

[feral river]

“The west will become Muslims in a few decades” 😂😂😂💀

[formal scaffold]

El Hadj Biden

[jolly agate]

the influence is crazy

[oak sphinx]

Blida... yeah

[feral river]

Bro really think the elites who living in Wall Street are nothing

[formal scaffold]

Got u Never studied there, I went there occasionally, architect I assume?

[oak sphinx]

I don't understand it either and I was pretty upset the whole time because it's ridiculous

[formal scaffold]

https://imagedelivery.net/9sCnq8t6WEGNay0RAQNdvQ/UUID-cl90fz2l8241672vmqylcqmbgbq/public

[oak sphinx]

Why ? It's not a good university? I have friends there who are considering moving also because the overall vibe sucks.
No engineering

[formal scaffold]

since it's far from my home, most unis sucks in Algeria compared to other african uni, and the best is located in capital "Bab el zouar"

[feral river]

LMAO

Muslim occupying the White House

Free America!

[formal scaffold]

you mean the white mosque?

[oak sphinx]

I watched a video where ( the Coran ? I don't know ) said " they will be oil in Jannah ( the Muslim paradise ) ". And then the guy who was supposed to depict the US military started praying like a Muslim 🤣

[formal scaffold]

oil the US kryptonite

it's scary how largely they can produce it yet still they buy a shit ton of it

[oak sphinx]

Yeah the education system is a little weird and encourage laziness in my opinion

[formal scaffold]

I quit Uni bc of that, total nonesense, straight up skipped to work

most dissertations are copy pasta straight up, the only exception is that uni in capital, yet they are losing their reputation slowly

[oak sphinx]

USA is pretty big though what we see on the map is definitely not it with a lot of people. They really need it

[formal scaffold]

aren't they the 4th in terms of populations mass?

or 5th

[oak sphinx]

And what do you do now if you don't mind. In Africa unlike other countries it's pretty tough if you don't have a degree

[formal scaffold]

currently I'm more of a cnc conductor, and graphic designer

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/screen-shot-2019-11-22-at-10-52-32-am-1574437990.png?resize=980:* we need more tesla's Ig

[oak sphinx]

Oh okay good for you.
I wish you all the good 😊

[formal scaffold]

did you graduate yet if u mind me asking, and where did u go after?

[oak sphinx]

Not yet. It's my first year in my 'new' uni

Business administration. I'm just lazy

[formal scaffold]

shit you had to redo it? or is it another field of study?

ah got you, where if u don't mind?

[oak sphinx]

Yeah of course. And I don't regret it. I am in my first year when most of my classmates from high school will get their bachelor this year. But life is not a race rather a marathon

[oak sphinx]

Germany

[formal scaffold]

is it challenging for you to speak german?

"But life is not a race rather a marathon" this one is gold I call dibs on it

[oak sphinx]

I think it really depends on your motivation, background, resources available etc.
I'm a language enthusiastic and because people on the Internet said it's difficult I took as a challenge ah ah. I also had great resources that worked for me because everyone is different and you should stick to what works best for you.
But of course it's not perfect and I sometimes mix it with English and French 😂 ( I'm bye-lingual 🥲 )

[oak sphinx]

🙂 it is a mindset that helped me navigate through difficulties so I hope it will also help you

Ok guys I'm off🫡

[formal scaffold]

Ciao ciao

gutten nacht freund

[oak sphinx]

Gute Nacht Freundin

Danke

[formal scaffold]

it's gutten tag at this point lol 6 AM

[oak sphinx]

But I'm going to sleep now so 😂

[craggy sphinx]

@jolly agate hello

Hello beings of the highest light

[jolly agate]

@craggy sphinx hello mate

[hallow moss]

I'm not a native English speaker. I can understand what you are saying, but I can't speak fluently. I don't know how long it will take to become fluent.

How long did it take yu become fluent in learning a new language?

[formal scaffold]

personally I'm not fluent, some mod in this server changed my role

and some people hate on me for that 😢

[vapid hare]

You seem fluent enough to me man 👍 how many languages can you speak btw?

[jolly agate]

just practice mate.

[formal scaffold]

3 + (1 still working on it)

[hallow moss]

No one will dislike you because of this.

[vapid hare]

Dangg actual polygot I'm mostly bilingual but I can speak a third language kind of (but not really)

[jolly agate]

People do dislike for no reason

[vapid hare]

Haters gonna hate

[hallow moss]

I believe that everyone is inclusive toward non-native speakers, Because I am just like this.

[formal scaffold]

I'm a lazy typer and speaker, I try to be concised and that's what made my progress slow Ig, something you should stay away from I think.

[formal scaffold]

respect 💪🏾

[vapid hare]

What is the fourth language you're learning? @formal scaffold

[formal scaffold]

the 4th? Amazigh

"Amazighs are the indigenous inhabitants of the North African littoral, isolated from the rest of Africa by the Sahara Desert. Periods of control by the Carthaginian and Roman empires were interspersed with the establishment of Amazigh kingdoms."

[vapid hare]

Ohh berber? Thats considered a very old language if I remember correctly, why are you learning it man?

[formal scaffold]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Tifinagh_alphabet.png

[craggy sphinx]

skuggi are you alive?

[formal scaffold]

Barely 😭

[vapid hare]

An alphabet that dates back to 2000+ years damn

[craggy sphinx]

what

[formal scaffold]

those are the amazigh letters

or "Berber", but some dislike that name since it has negative connotations

[vapid hare]

Don't they use the arabic script more than the Tifinagh one?

[formal scaffold]

lately those are more common, bc the country allowed it to be a 3rd national language

it wasn't official before, which is why they used arabic, or latin (latin more since they do hate arabs and arabic in some amazigh areas)

[vapid hare]

So there has been a resurgence of interest in promoting the use of the Tifinagh script then, I see.

[formal scaffold]

yeah some political incidents too, Alas when bad things happens they can cause positive change indirectly

[vapid hare]

I'm guessing cause of history (the islamic conquest) and arab-centric administration, causing them to feel marginalized

[craggy sphinx]

[formal scaffold]

Yeah, some say that, while others argue that during the French colonialization, France had policies to instigate between minorities, races, groups in Algeria

[hallow moss]

Is anyone interested in learning Chinese?

[vapid hare]

So the gist of it is that the French used divide and conquer tactics to create division between their subjects, ensuring their control in the area is secure?

[formal scaffold]

Personally I don't hate arabs, but sometimes other arabs from other regions belittle us, so I guess a bunch of both sides get at each other's throat when they get the chance to

[formal scaffold]

Cantonese or mandarine?

[hallow moss]

mandarine

[formal scaffold]

that did happen, but it's not the only reason why the amazigh hate arabs, the seed of hatred was there and france just watred it

[hallow moss]

What's the trend of learning Chinese in your conuntry?

[vapid hare]

Its like the British Raj then where the colonizing brits used those same tactics to divide the hindus and muslims in India

[formal scaffold]

I heard about that too, it's effective and usefull to them, india still suffer the aftermaths of that, wether for good or bad only the ones who live there knows

[hallow moss]

China was also colonized in the past, but it successfully resisted the colonizers.

[vapid hare]

I don't know much about india admittedly but the Indian Subcontinent might still be one unified entity had it not been for division and conflict

[formal scaffold]

the pronunciation is the scariest thing, I think nailing that comes first, then you'll be less intimidated by it

[hallow moss]

Yes, Chinese is completely different from alphabet-based languages.

[vapid hare]

China has never been fully colonized I don't think, but they have been humiliated multiple times by foreign powers (such as the opium wars and Japanese occupation during WW2)

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fabML49w23w&pp=ygUOYmxhY2sgaW4gY2hpbmE%3D
I think this kinda content is helpful and motivational

[hallow moss]

Ha, Chinese people are very friendly towards foreigners.

These are real.

[formal scaffold]

it goes beyond money, simple kind gestures are so touching and contagious

[hallow moss]

Actually, I don't know why ordinary people are so friendly towards foreigners, even ore so than towards locals. It's quite interesting.

[ember portal]

Good morning

[hallow moss]

May be the foreigners looks like a panda...After all, China is not an immigrant country , and foreigner are not commonly seen.

[formal scaffold]

it can be either:
1- The feeling of representing the community
2- Empathy toward foreigners since most of them has it hard financially, and to cheer them up if they are feeling lonely and homesick
3- as I said just being touched before by a kind gesture so you want to replicate it as a mean of releasing yourself from being indebted, or it can come from a feeling of rivality in doing what's good after feeling it's effect

[formal scaffold]

Mornin'

[ember portal]

Hey how's going

[formal scaffold]

rolling like a blunt on snoop's lips

ngl I'm beat, I'll be dozzing off soon

[ember portal]

Why

[formal scaffold]

gotta go catch some ZZzs

[feral river]

China has never been colonized but some part of China are under occupation by foreign powers in the past

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-man-donnie-donnie-yen-1v10-versus10-gif-21093652

this triology introduced me to the colonialization times in china

[feral river]

Japanese Empire 🤣

[feral river]

You can look over the history of part of China under occupation by Japanese Empire, Manchukuo etc.

[formal scaffold]

Aite! I'm dipping catch ya later alligators 👊🏾

[hallow moss]

I hope that all people in the world who have suffered from colonial oppression can be liberated soon.

such as Palestine

[feral river]

depends what is your definition of the colonize.

[hallow tendon]

It is Hebrew and means a teacher.

[thorny steeple]

Ah bored

[gusty apex]

BRUH

YOUR ARE CONFUSING WITH RABBI (JEWISH) AND RABBI OF MUSLIM

[gusty apex]

SAME HERE YOU ARE CONFUSED SIS

[gusty apex]

yeh right,

I don't know what woke definition of colonization is, but china has indeed been colonized

Just think of the boxer rebellion whre imperial germany (when germany was actually good), britain, russia, france, italy, austro hungarians supressed a rebellion

which when, china was heavily under the influence and occupation of foreigners

[gusty apex]

France used indigenous representatives with symbolic divide and rule power in sub-saharan Africa and they had ceremonial legislative power

[gusty apex]

where are you from?

[gusty apex]

I can give ample example of colonized china

[gusty apex]

he is a zionist lmao

[gusty apex]

what an id-

[gusty apex]

" The west will have a significant amount of Muslims representing a large chunk of the population"

[gusty apex]

just watch buddy, people are kind of split on many social wars

[gusty apex]

Arabs are not even a quarter of the known muslim population

[gusty apex]

Islam prohibits "versions" called bidah strictly prohibited and when you see this, it isn't Islam just some new type of sects and changes made like the corrupted christians , although it wont reach that extent but bear in mid adjustments in the form of fatwas are made and fatwas are Islamic rulings based on certain issues and we are not in the early 7th century anymore

[gusty apex]

they are of turkic descent buddy

[vapid hare]

They ultimately served the interests of colonial power rather than the indigenous populations then

[vapid hare]

Uhh im pretty sure an albanian would punch your ass if you said that lmao

[gusty apex]

You are wrong, I have learned in this type of religious aspect and muslims like this are radical far-right people. extremists like terrorists such as al-qaeda who claim to be muslims but the string connecting them with islam is non-existent

[gusty apex]

Jail?, ys you are ot allowed to eat openly becuase when fasting is hard to go throughout the day, such as you cant eat beef in front hindus

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[gusty apex]

I am not scared of the truth

[gusty apex]

A bulk of them are from turkic descent

[vapid hare]

Islamic fundamentalists are not true muslims, agreed. 👍

[gusty apex]

frfr

[vapid hare]

Are they actually cause idk lmao

[gusty apex]

yes sir they are, ottoman empire influences

[vapid hare]

I know that ottoman rule led to islamization of a significant part of the population but how are they of turkic descent?

[gusty apex]

Europe isnt very much muslim because the ottoman empire gave evrybody open right of belief or else countries like serbia,greece,bulgaria,croatia, most of southern ukraine, hungary e.t.c

[gusty apex]

many turks sttled in the area

[gusty apex]

whre are you from?

[vapid hare]

And those turkic settlers mixed with the local population I see

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[vapid hare]

Indonesia, which is FAR away from the balkan or europe in general

[gusty apex]

and many reports saw that the local populations saw the practices and converted

[gusty apex]

nice, largest muslim country

[vapid hare]

They levied a special tax upon non-muslims still, which encouraged a non-significant part of the population to convert to islam

[vapid hare]

Where are you from btw

[gusty apex]

although many contradicttions in your country with islam altho the popluation is considered to be 98.5% muslim

[gusty apex]

yes, in exchange for a small fee called jizya tax not only gave them right of faith but made them free of conscriptions in the army

[vapid hare]

Are you saying we have deviated from the tenets of Islam? is this related to our secularism

[gusty apex]

Bangladesh

[gusty apex]

Tobacco my boy

[vapid hare]

Its borders India right?

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[vapid hare]

OHHH I see. Agreed, the fact a majority of Indonesians smoke is a travesty man

[gusty apex]

75% of your males loveee smoking

[vapid hare]

Big Tobacco is alive and well here sadly, the government has yet to regulate it

[gusty apex]

I saw after coming from the mosque they share a cigarrette

[gusty apex]

u smoke?

[vapid hare]

Nahh, I was raised from a young age not to

[gusty apex]

mashallah

[gusty apex]

thats the spirit

[vapid hare]

Wait are you in Indonesia rn?

[gusty apex]

nahhh

[vapid hare]

Were those Indonesian tourists then?

[gusty apex]

nahh locals of all age 💀

[vapid hare]

Even kids?

[gusty apex]

just after the prayer bro

[gusty apex]

16, 17, not coming from the mosque altho

[vapid hare]

Indonesia #1 🇮🇩

[gusty apex]

yes i heard of a kid who smokes a few hundred every week and not even 7 years old

[gusty apex]

nice country altho, nice food as it seems

[vapid hare]

Yeah smoking is a HUGE problem here, even little children sometimes get into smoking thats how bad it is

[vapid hare]

You should visit man

[gusty apex]

bro, dont the parents do anything?

[gusty apex]

yeah sure again one day

[vapid hare]

Its kinda a cultural norm so I guess they tolerate/accept it? Which is just 100% unacceptable

[gusty apex]

aceh, is probably the muslim bulk

[gusty apex]

no like islamic taboo?

[vapid hare]

The two big islamic organizations here differ on whether they support smoking or not (one does while the other does not)

[gusty apex]

significant bulk of the population

[vapid hare]

Btw Aceh has autonomy and actually has sharia law unlike other provinces

[gusty apex]

Algeria, was part of mainland france for a long time, opressed all the arabs and what not, gaysrael might be taking notes

[gusty apex]

[gusty apex]

btw aceh was part of the ottoman empire

[vapid hare]

They were rebelling too much and we had to make concessions, thats why

[gusty apex]

😄

[vapid hare]

I'm checking that one real quick brb

[gusty apex]

ottoman vassal

[gusty apex]

they wanted to be part of the mainland but the suez canal wasnt there so the ottomans refused

[vapid hare]

They seem to be more like allies than vassals from what I can tell

[gusty apex]

they paid yearly tribute

[gusty apex]

yes, vassals (except the rebellious ones) are obliged to support their superior (or in this cae the ottomans)

[gusty apex]

ottomans helped the aceh people alot

[gusty apex]

the ottomans were the caliphs or the succesor to the prophet muhammad

so that made them more motivated

[gusty apex]

one example is the Crimean khanate they vassal of the ottoman empire who helped the ottomans in every war by providing supplies men and stuff

and the ottomans beat the russian hunters who tried to hunt the crimeans

[vapid hare]

On quora it says that they recognized the Ottoman Sultan as the caliph of the world (which implies a vassal-like relationship) BUT Aceh still maintained de-facto sovereignty @gusty apex

[vapid hare]

Helped them against the portuguese yes but they weren't a vassal it seems.

[gusty apex]

Vassals have sovereignty only when they are not under suzerainty, vassals only have obligation

[gusty apex]

trust me they were

[vapid hare]

If you say so. I thought it was more of an informal alliance than strict vassalage nusair

[gusty apex]

Partly true but they tried to submit to ottomans but because one ocean away with no direct way madeharder to control, so no

[gusty apex]

at first yes, vassalage is not always strict @vapid hare

[vapid hare]

They couldn't control them because they were an ocean away but still considered Aceh as a dependency?

[gusty apex]

yes

[vapid hare]

So they were obligated to pay tribute and support their overlord in times of war then

[gusty apex]

yes ottomans sent shipments of guns and soldiers

against portugese

[gusty apex]

the ottomans took oman from the portugese also

[vapid hare]

Oman was once controlled by portugal? Damn. What a massive empire they had huh

[gusty apex]

it was only muscat btw

[gusty apex]

portugese only had small pockets around the world but yeah, they had a big one

[gusty apex]

bahrain also

[vapid hare]

They had Brazil which is pretty big i'd say

[gusty apex]

but not qatar interestingly

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[gusty apex]

vassalship*

[vapid hare]

Were they protected by another great power?

[gusty apex]

arabian tribes sometimes on the vassalship of ottomans and sometimes control of ottomans also

[vapid hare]

It seems only parts of oman then

[vapid hare]

Qatar (or the tribes living there) were an ottoman vassals I see

[gusty apex]

many great powers could barely administer arabian lands until the 19th century becuase of hard resistance from arabian tribes

[gusty apex]

sometimes

[gusty apex]

only capital and the outskirts of it

[vapid hare]

Only the islamic empires of medieval times could fully control arabia

[gusty apex]

yes sir and before that too

[vapid hare]

Also probably because its hard to control desert lmao

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[vapid hare]

Aye aye captain 🫡

[gusty apex]

whre in indonesia

u live?

[vapid hare]

In Southeast Asia, pretty close to Bangladesh actually

[gusty apex]

nah i know where in indonesia man

?

[vapid hare]

Ohhh you mean region? East Java

[gusty apex]

oooh

[vapid hare]

Yep

[gusty apex]

What do you think of the idea of maphlindo? malaysia+indonesia+phillipines

?

[vapid hare]

United we are stronger I don't see any reason why the malay countries shouldnt unite. (But it probably wont happen)

[gusty apex]

I think phillipines would be outcasted

[gusty apex]

phillipnes are 10% muslim but they dont court the muslims in favor

[vapid hare]

Im fine with a non-muslim majority country in this hypothetical union, we're taught that diversity makes us stronger and stuff

[gusty apex]

wish it was accurate in this divided world

[vapid hare]

We even have our own phrase for it - Bhineka Tunggal Ika - Unity in Diversity.

[gusty apex]

would prolly work out if malaysia+indonesia

[gusty apex]

wow

if it works out*

[vapid hare]

IF it works out. Big if.

[gusty apex]

[vapid hare]

Would you want to rejoin pakistan if you could?

[gusty apex]

nah, But I dont have the taboo of pakistanis others have, i have a soft spot for them

[gusty apex]

we have a very large distance separating ourselves

[gusty apex]

I would rather advocate for an united bengal

[vapid hare]

Yup, separated by India

[vapid hare]

Are you guys not already united?

[gusty apex]

Pakistan is agreat country, indeed ut the military was the problem (military aligned politicians included)

[gusty apex]

hell no, i wish

[gusty apex]

rascal india

70% of bengalis live in bangladesh

[vapid hare]

Is Pakistan ruled by a junta? is democracy non existent there

[gusty apex]

used to be, sometimes there is , sometimes not

[vapid hare]

Invade India

[gusty apex]

yes a large portion of their existence

[vapid hare]

So its sometimes democractic, sometimes authoritarian I see

[gusty apex]

I would love to, but they got nuclear arms💀

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[vapid hare]

Worth the nuclear radiation

[gusty apex]

bro didnt you guys defense minitser declare himself winner of elction

[formal pilot]

[vapid hare]

Ohh prabowo?

[gusty apex]

yes, i dont think he muslim, but what happened?

[vapid hare]

Bro he is muslim what are you saying all three political candidates that ran were all muslims

[gusty apex]

oh, but he looked like those hindu tribes near timor

not racist cuz i study bout them

but if racist , sorry

[vapid hare]

If you wanted to know what happened, Prabowo danced his way through victory (Ganjar was too busy j*cking off and Anies was busy breaking his promises)

[formal pilot]

We talking about Indonesian politics?

[covert spear]

sup guys how are y'all doing

[vapid hare]

I hope you have the best morning ever good sir

[gusty apex]

what about the guy who wnet to hajj mabe jokoo but i dont remember

[covert spear]

ty u too

[gusty apex]

he looks scary btw

[vapid hare]

Jokowi? He already served two terms, he cant serve another. Thats why he didnt ran

[formal pilot]

Isn't Indonesia a authoritarian country?

[gusty apex]

better if he ran a coup

[vapid hare]

Most FREE country there is HOORAHHH (btw some politicians wanted Jokowi to run for an unprecedented third term but he didnt)

[gusty apex]

whyyyy

[vapid hare]

Idk why, he just has good character I guess? (75% approval rating)

[formal pilot]

Most free country, ahm ahm i doubt that

[gusty apex]

any chance he returns?

[vapid hare]

I don't think so, but his son (Gibran rakabuming) has ran as Prabowo's VP which means a political dynasty is forming

[formal pilot]

What's the legal age to vote over there?

[vapid hare]

17 year olds are eligible to vote

[gusty apex]

that guy also went to hajj, and his eldest son right?

[gusty apex]

skill issue.

[vapid hare]

I think jokowi has but I'm not sure about gibran

[gusty apex]

his sons went there i saw

[vapid hare]

Maybe only umroh?

[gusty apex]

yes

[gusty apex]

yees sir its a skill issue

[vapid hare]

Why dont we make infants able to vote

[gusty apex]

In bangladesh 12-year olds can vote

[vapid hare]

Actually?? You must be lying lmao

[gusty apex]

true

[gusty apex]

yes sir its true

[gusty apex]

this election (which was one party btw) many 12 year olds voted

[gusty apex]

accordin to constitution its 18 but many 12 year ols can vote

[vapid hare]

Im sure there were many different options to choose from in this election

[vapid hare]

How is it allowed if its violating the damn constitution?!

[gusty apex]

exam regulators allowed them becuase they got ching ching from the government if they get more votes

[gusty apex]

BRO, YOU DONT KNOW SHIT, MOST THINGS CAN GET BVIOLATED HERE

[vapid hare]

W exam regulators

[formal pilot]

I'm not familiar with both of em or Indonesian politics in general, would you mind sharing some surface level info

[gusty apex]

so in this election, 2 sects in the party and some smaller parties (they arealmost indpendent stood~)

[gusty apex]

Definitely honest💯

[vapid hare]

Jokowi is the current president of Indonesia (the 7th one actually) and Gibran is Jokowi's son. Gibran is running as Prabowo's VP and since prabowo has won the election, he will become the future VP.

[gusty apex]

how do u decide who gets to be vp?

[vapid hare]

So a one party system but with extra steps, got it lmao

[vapid hare]

I think the political candidates (and their respective party) pick their vp themselves, the public doesnt get to decide

[formal pilot]

Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle sounds like a left leaning party

[gusty apex]

the opposition boycotted the election since they arrested 90% of people in the other party and those (notable and aristocrats altho few) who support them

[gusty apex]

common

[vapid hare]

Parties are usually more personality based than anything else. The PDIP has megawati, Gerindra has Prabowo etc

[vapid hare]

Tutorial to become north korea:

[gusty apex]

imagine if jokowo stood, father-son duo

[gusty apex]

[vapid hare]

They would have 99.99% of the vote fs

[gusty apex]

yes sirrrr

[vapid hare]

Prabowo has promised to continue much of jokowi's economic policies (most major of which being the construction of a new capital in Borneo/Kalimantan)

[gusty apex]

now the current party is in power for 20 yrs, since their power is renewed

[vapid hare]

Why not make it permanent instead

[gusty apex]

I don think declaring oneself winner is a good sign-

[formal pilot]

💀

[gusty apex]

nah so the can say "bangladesh is a democracy and evrybody is free"

[vapid hare]

He has declared himself winner due to the quick count voting results while the actual results are yet to come

[gusty apex]

still scary

[vapid hare]

Yep, hes kinda cocky but what can you do

[gusty apex]

Run a military coup against him

[formal pilot]

Which country has the best democracy?

[vapid hare]

Indonesia

[gusty apex]

usa

[formal pilot]

Apart from china

[formal pilot]

There's no way

[gusty apex]

HEL NAHH

[gusty apex]

CHINA COMMIE

[gusty apex]

IT HAS NO DEMOCRACY ITSLEF AMDITS-

[formal pilot]

USA is democratically bankrupt

[gusty apex]

it is

[vapid hare]

The two parties are controlled by the wealthy (billaden)

[gusty apex]

still the best option, uk many leaders are from the same lineage

[gusty apex]

wht?

[formal pilot]

I can confirm

[gusty apex]

u from us?

[vapid hare]

Yep billaden is the world leader

[formal pilot]

USA is tapped

[gusty apex]

biden?

[gusty apex]

you mean binladen?

[formal pilot]

They just give lolipop of democracy

[gusty apex]

still best option

[vapid hare]

I mean @formal pilot

[formal pilot]

What about Nordic European countries?

[gusty apex]

ohhhh

[formal pilot]

Like Finland

[vapid hare]

They give middle east many lollipops

[formal pilot]

They gave only stick to Palestinians

[gusty apex]

they are good altho they ahve monarchy, but swiss are the best

[gusty apex]

nah its the birtish rascals

[gusty apex]

more like 4x genocide

usa politicians are woke

[vapid hare]

The stick of genocide

[gusty apex]

🇵🇸

[vapid hare]

When did they wake up

[gusty apex]

woke, you know what it means?

[vapid hare]

Awake??

[formal pilot]

No one knows

[gusty apex]

nah, racially and politically inclusive towards others, mad, crazy

[formal pilot]

?def woke

[cursive bobcat]

Word: woke

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by awesome_bill

[vapid hare]

Left wing people?

[formal pilot]

It's equivalent to white teenage girl on Twitter

[gusty apex]

you wish

[gusty apex]

lolol

[formal pilot]

That's the legit definition of woke

[vapid hare]

They should add that into the dictionary

[formal pilot]

Getting offended on behalf of others is woke

[gusty apex]

u american?

[formal pilot]

I wish

I'm rice enjoyer

[gusty apex]

wht?

[vapid hare]

You are cow dung enjoyer actually

[gusty apex]

i eat rice every day, night (SADLY)

[vestal grove]

Just marry one of your homies there and get the citizenship later

[formal pilot]

Zip your mouth like bomber jackets

[gusty apex]

cocky but useful af

[formal pilot]

Hell na, I'll go for European countries

[vapid hare]

Become gay to get citizenship okay 👍

[gusty apex]

same💀

[formal pilot]

Gun violence is really a thing in USA

I'll be dead in no time

[gusty apex]

get stoned to death(legit in saudi)

[gusty apex]

💀

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/zakir-naik-muslim-candles-fierce-point-gif-17453203

[vestal grove]

Its just papers if you are desperate for the citizenship

[vapid hare]

You would be full of bulletholes the moment you land in america

[formal pilot]

I'll be SpongeBob SquarePants

[vapid hare]

Desperate situations require desperate measures

[gusty apex]

whos fasting here ?(muslim(ramadan))

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-as-f-boi-fast-as-lightning-greninja-pokemon-greninja-greninja-uses-quick-attack-gif-25273284

[vestal grove]

me

[formal pilot]

To Excel in career USA is top notch

[gusty apex]

mashallah brther

[formal pilot]

To retire or live in general, it's fkd

[gusty apex]

which country akhi?

[vestal grove]

Bahrain 🇧🇭

[gusty apex]

waitt till you get to florida🤣

[gusty apex]

nice brotehr (small country af ) but 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000x btter than bangladesh

[gusty apex]

ya akhi how many hours do you fast

[formal pilot]

They built different

[gusty apex]

💀

fudge

[formal pilot]

You're Arab?

[gusty apex]

ofc he is

[formal pilot]

Or shifted there from other place?

[vestal grove]

Yes

[gusty apex]

could be

[gusty apex]

ya akhi i know your address

[formal pilot]

Who's chamakis??

[vestal grove]

[formal pilot]

I've heard about them in a standup comedy

[vestal grove]

Cringe asf

They all are

[formal pilot]

What are they??

[vestal grove]

You can easily spot them from 10km far

[formal pilot]

I don't get it

[gusty apex]

@vestal grove أيها العربي، هذا هو التصيد لرجل علاء الدين، لذا إذا كنت تترجم هذا، فاحصل على ................................ ...................................

أيضا، لدي عنوانك

[vestal grove]

They are vape kids who mix english and arabic while the talk
Be wearing shit no one else but them wear
Etc etc
Way too many stuff to say about them
And they are the definition of cringe in our country

Mostly kids

[neat ether]

are you telling us the next place you will bomb

[gusty apex]

علاء الدين ليس عربيا

[gusty apex]

fr

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[vestal grove]

[gusty apex]

المنامة

[vestal grove]

On Thursdays
All the malls here are invaded by them

[vestal grove]

Wrong
Why does everyone think all bahrainies live in manama
No bahrainies live in manama anymore

Its all foreigners

[gusty apex]

la

[gusty apex]

you live in another tiny island?

which is even more tinier

[formal pilot]

And what's the thing with lexus 430?

[vestal grove]

No
I live on the main island like 95% of the population

[gusty apex]

its manama isnt it?

[vestal grove]

No

Manama is inside the main island

[gusty apex]

the southern parts?

[gusty apex]

i know on the coast

[gusty apex]

meant to respond here

bro is typing for a long time

أسرع

[vestal grove]

Well
Its like a super car to them

[gusty apex]

cant they like stop the chamks?

[formal pilot]

Dang

It took 5 months to understand the joke

[vestal grove]

Bro tryna get clues where i live

[vestal grove]

They call it f16

Yes like the plane

[vestal grove]

They evolve every couple of years

[gusty apex]

they are in dubai too

[formal pilot]

💀

[gusty apex]

that annoys me too cuz if they get aorund sharjah and abu dhabi...

[formal pilot]

From now on I'll call you chamaki

[vestal grove]

At first they were gardis
And slowly became chicken nuggest (yes thats what we call people who mix arabic and English while talking)
And now they became chamaks

[formal pilot]

I've seen the exact same video as you lmao

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[vestal grove]

Aint no chamaki drives an lx 470

[formal pilot]

Big up to Andrew he's goat

[formal pilot]

[neat ether]

andrew tate

[formal pilot]

Schulz

💀

[neat ether]

the guy with a hitler mustache?

[formal pilot]

Indeed

He's really good

[vestal grove]

Chamak style

[vestal grove]

They all have that pink vape in this photo
And this same jeans

[neat ether]

where's the drip??

[gusty apex]

muslim too unlike chamks

[gusty apex]

lol

[vestal grove]

Idk those are chamaki

[neat ether]

dripless fit ong

[vestal grove]

Ikr 💀

[lusty zenith]

He ordered drip but all he got was swag 😔

Out here in the streets with the RGB baby bottle

[vestal grove]

I wear thob 80% of the time

[neat ether]

thongs??

[vestal grove]

Thob is an arabian traditional dress

Not thongs

[neat ether]

I see

[neat ether]

damnn look at this fit 🔥

SWAG MESSIAH 🔥

[lusty zenith]

He got the kinda money to really legalize nuclear bombs

[vestal grove]

Im not qualified for that yet

[vestal grove]

Also the guy in the photo isn't wearing it right 😭

[vestal grove]

This guy wearing a bisht
We only wear this in very very special occasions

[neat ether]

you need to level up first to get that drip

[neat ether]

Where's the ones you use for normal occasions then

[neat ether]

LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS ☢️

[vestal grove]

This is what we wear normally

[neat ether]

fire ass drip oml

[vestal grove]

But i don't wear qitra
The red thing on his head

[neat ether]

Look at his jawline, the thob sharpened it by 30%

[neat ether]

what do you wear? nothing at all?

[vestal grove]

If im going formal i will wear it
If not
I wont wear anything on my head or just a normal cap

[neat ether]

a baseball cap?

[vestal grove]

Depends on what you want

Its upto you

[neat ether]

is there a black variant for the night

[vestal grove]

Yes
The winter thon has different colours bc we use heavy cloth to make it

I have a black winter thob

And a navy blue one

[neat ether]

how interesting, does this apply to all arab countries?

[vestal grove]

Arabian gulf yes

[neat ether]

does the bomb come with the thob as well or no?

[vestal grove]

Depends on where you live

[neat ether]

I'm guessing the ISIS starting zone has it

[vestal grove]

Smh thats located in the usa

Anyways im driving rn
Gtg

[neat ether]

cya

make sure to go drunk driving

[thorny steeple]

Whats Good Guys

[oak sphinx]

Maybe it's just about this specific country but that's how many people acted. And I didn't consider it as ' extremism ' ( because I was kinda used to this type of behavior from people from ' non- traditional Christian religions ' who would want to convert you at all cost and always jugde you ).
I was sometimes pissed but I was respectful nevertheless because everyone has its way of living

[oak sphinx]

It is literally a law.
Many different people said it to me and I didn't want any trouble so I've never tried. Restaurants and fast foods were not open but cake shop were but even the baker who would notice that I was not Muslim would tell me to take it home because someone can call the police.

[civic reef]

He got the kinda money to really make a nuclear bomb out of you babe

[high saddle]

the least serious peak speaks

[gusty apex]

did you just say thongs💀

[gusty apex]

nice

[gusty apex]

thats haram💀

[high saddle]

everything is haram
what even is halal these days

[gusty apex]

yes, thats a social taboo becuase it would make hardships on others, but are you mad? if someone can call the police for something that is not allowed not everything needs to be written in constitution or some bogus to be not allowed, and the police is not gonna send you to jail even if you eat and spit it on the face, what kind of bogus are you?

[gusty apex]

these days?

[gusty apex]

bro what kind of illegitimate accusation is this

[high saddle]

well, I don't live where you live 🤔

[gusty apex]

bro you dont talk about europeans , slovenia or slovakia i dunno but they gonna kick you out if you muslim

[main bison]

hi

[gusty apex]

Maybe i lived in whre you live

[high saddle]

and the ones you mentioned also have a high chance not to

[high saddle]

🤔
hi?

[main bison]

Hi

[gusty apex]

your profile pic represents the candidtas (both are clowns)

[silver vault]

Muslims are so marginalised

[gusty apex]

wdym? from whic statement

[main bison]

no?

[gusty apex]

use replies

[main bison]

?def candidtas

[cursive bobcat]

:x: That word could not be found in the dictionary.

[high saddle]

I'm completely sure that you have never :>

you'd leave in a second facing the haram practices

[silver vault]

typo

[gusty apex]

alr, a narcissist and an old man with the coffin already placed

[silver vault]

yet they support the sharia law

[main bison]

so?

[gusty apex]

nope, muslims are free to practices of different faith in another country, we arent gonna go into your bed and stop you doing fornication

[main bison]

Am i killer because I'm shia?

[gusty apex]

We dont say in our parliament taht another faith are not allowed in the country, we dont openly condemn other faiths(not speaking about extremists) we dont condemn practices that cuase no harm to u

[gusty apex]

You are shia akhi?

[main bison]

idk what akhi is

[gusty apex]

wtf gen z

[gusty apex]

wtf im also gen z but not like

[main bison]

why

[slow storm]

Akhi means brother

[main bison]

Akhi is not a famous thing why would i know it?

[gusty apex]

brother (its persian u idi

[main bison]

i don't know arabic

[gusty apex]

its persian you idi-

[main bison]

it's not persian u idi

[silver vault]

Yeh tell that to shiyas and atheists

[slow storm]

Ah I also 😂 no problem with that 😂

[gusty apex]

they are christains also and shiyas are a separate branch of muslims💀

[gusty apex]

its in the quran also

[gusty apex]

ای حیوان

[main bison]

so what

[silver vault]

Atheists are Christian? Wdym by that statement

[main bison]

I call the mods

[gusty apex]

i said many of them are christians

[silver vault]

lmao

alr dude

[gusty apex]

you dont understand?

[slow storm]

Atheist ?

[main bison]

u just called me an animal

[gusty apex]

human also animal

[high saddle]

coolio
glad we got that resolved

time to face the atheists and agnostics

[main bison]

[main bison]

Hey sister Nusair is bullying me

[gusty apex]

alr, we all borthers but racially condemning others isnt so cool, everybody should be open to their faith and say

[gusty apex]

I thought you wre in betwe-

[high saddle]

I mean, I'm just stating that you will see them
no condemning here

[slow storm]

Yyy??? @gusty apex Don't u dare to do this 😭

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[gusty apex]

they just called me a she

[main bison]

i didn't

[high saddle]

that use of they was actually flawless ☠️

[slow storm]

Btw who are u? 😂😂 he or she

[gusty apex]

whats this you-

[gusty apex]

bro just look at my name

[slow storm]

He is. Calling me a sister 😭

[gusty apex]

i think you are from arab world

[main bison]

i called her, sister u idiot

[high saddle]

I use they and this is an awkward question in general lol

[main bison]

[slow storm]

No no

Why everyone thinks about this 😭

[gusty apex]

pak, contains greater middle east sis

[high saddle]

what is Middle East middle/east of? 🤔

[gusty apex]

بس کن بچه کوچولو

[gusty apex]

east of north america, englund

[main bison]

@slow storm he doesn't stop

[gusty apex]

middle of the east

[slow storm]

How do you know this? That I'm from Pakistan

[gusty apex]

i just said stop it , child

[high saddle]

solid answer

[high saddle]

not so solid anymore

[slow storm]

Translate please 😂😂

[gusty apex]

they can be classified into two definitions

[gusty apex]

i said "stop it , little child"

[oak sphinx]

There's a difference between following a religion but not actively practicing it and being an atheist. Please

[slow storm]

Oh

Got it

[gusty apex]

conservatives hit hard

[gusty apex]

which country did you go?

[high saddle]

🤔
everyone is sus now

[gusty apex]

alr i apologize if you got offended

[main bison]

ok

[slow storm]

🤣

[gusty apex]

y' forgive?

[main bison]

no

[slow storm]

Damn I was writing
Yeah, he is so kind 😭😭

[oak sphinx]

I'm far from being conservative but I do know what atheist means

[oak sphinx]

The Muslim country?

[main bison]

oh
Sorry ruined ur message

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[steady briar]

If religion was not present in our world, most problems wouldn’t have existed. Not all but most

[gusty apex]

ok

[main bison]

and most wars yeah

[gusty apex]

ok ma'am

[steady briar]

Exactly

[gusty apex]

ok

[gusty apex]

are you an atheist

[main bison]

How dare u say ma'am

[steady briar]

I am

[gusty apex]

i could not find a proper alternative for they/them for sir/maam

[gusty apex]

ok

[frank furnace]

Most problems like what? 🤔

[main bison]

im not thay them

[gusty apex]

and you are not shia either

[steady briar]

So many things happening in my country are due to religious differences

As well as so many people getting abused

[main bison]

Why?

[trim dust]

I think it is best to ask how they want to be addressed

There are so many identities out there

[steady briar]

Yes actually

[trim dust]

😬

[silver vault]

No

[main bison]

What's ur country

[steady briar]

India

[silver vault]

relatable

[main bison]

No?

[silver vault]

oh wth same

[trim dust]

👀

[main bison]

Yeah india's religion sucks

[gusty apex]

@steady briar

[trim dust]

Oh dang that's really high for atheist

[steady briar]

Oh which part? North or south?

[silver vault]

where is this study from

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[slow storm]

And what's your religion?

[silver vault]

North

Delhi, to be precise

[gusty apex]

he is an atheist

[steady briar]

Looks like I’m gonna die soon ✌️

[steady briar]

I’m south

[gusty apex]

💀 no, just a chart i woudve liked to share

[silver vault]

Hi south

[slow storm]

who are atheists?

[gusty apex]

how great wree your ancestors

[trim dust]

People who do not believe in gods

[silver vault]

Indeed they were

[gusty apex]

who dont believe that theer is any higher power and the universe just spawned (if your not agnostic)

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[oak sphinx]

Algeria

[gusty apex]

mauryas,delhi sultanate, the grand mughals, persian,ghaznavids

[gusty apex]

that countrys a mess

[slow storm]

Yeah, ik but what is the reason for becoming an athiest

[silver vault]

can you tell me where you got this chart from tho

[slow storm]

I can't mention billaden

[silver vault]

The suicide rate one

[main bison]

Gods?
Who believes in plural gods😂

[silver vault]

He's stupid

[gusty apex]

french rueles, muslims extremists caused by french extremism

[trim dust]

😆

[silver vault]

@formal pilot

[gusty apex]

💀 💀

[trim dust]

Period

[gusty apex]

nah tehy be like "i created one"

[steady briar]

I used to be a muslim actually but after reading quran translation I just couldn’t agree with what’s being said in it.

[silver vault]

Give me the study

or else I'll go ballistic

[slow storm]

Which surah u read 😮

[formal pilot]

Supp sulphite

[gusty apex]

ok and i am prince of englund, deff true

[steady briar]

The whole quran

[gusty apex]

alr dm?

[silver vault]

No here

[gusty apex]

he diodnt

[gusty apex]

links not allowed prolly

[silver vault]

you're just scared

[trim dust]

There are so many "Gods" out there, I couldn't just say God. People could be part of 2 religion for all I know

[gusty apex]

k

[slow storm]

Really, from which point do you think you couldn't agree with the quran

[formal pilot]

@slow storm how can I help you

[gusty apex]

i can give there and you can share here, i dont want to risk be banned or muted

[slow storm]

Oh yeah,

Who are atheist bill

[silver vault]

@formal pilot is this the part of our misery?

[formal pilot]

I'm atheist

[silver vault]

You won't

[formal pilot]

Source?

[slow storm]

Definition or

[gusty apex]

i can send link to anyone in dm but not here

[formal pilot]

I mean in islam it's haram

[gusty apex]

can gib dm

[formal pilot]

That's why it's low

[gusty apex]

yes sir

[gusty apex]

not only that

[steady briar]

So many things. Like the treatment of women and homosexuals and how islam feels about certain things

[gusty apex]

its called iman

[trim dust]

Yes sir!

[formal pilot]

Who doesn't believe in existence of god

[slow storm]

Alhamdullilah, otherwise I couldn't be the part of this conversation 🤣😭

[gusty apex]

women? women are the most respected , tell me whre they are treated bad

[gusty apex]

i got a question

[formal pilot]

Let's not give that south asian name, islam is religion as well as faith

[steady briar]

Yeah right🙄

[formal pilot]

Go ahead

[gusty apex]

whre they? huh, now you go silent

💯

[formal pilot]

What's the argument

[gusty apex]

iman is faith what south asia bruv

[slow storm]

Really Treatment of women??
I mean there is a whole surah in the Quran which is named Al-Nisa meaning women but there is no surah that is named after the man

[formal pilot]

Islam is faith, iman is termed used by South Asian Muslims

[gusty apex]

as atheists you believe there is no god, so did the universe an big bang spawn outta nowhere

[steady briar]

And if there’s actually a god there wouldn’t he have to be so cruel to just turn a blind eye to people in plight when he has a the power to stop it all?

[slow storm]

Idk, I am just thinking, why do people become atheist

[deep leaf]

only by south asians??

[formal pilot]

If everything need a creator, who created god?

[deep leaf]

u too are atheuist?

[gusty apex]

hell nah , im on my way to be a svholar

[steady briar]

Just like how people believe something people can also choose to not believe it

[formal pilot]

Yeah I'm atheist

[deep leaf]

oh nice....

[gusty apex]

and you have teh brain to not do taaghoot you kafir

[formal pilot]

God spawned out of nowhere

[gusty apex]

its okay everybody has their own beliefs we should be open

[formal pilot]

Yeah I'm fine with it

[slow storm]

God is considered eternal and uncreated. He has no beginning or end. He is the Creator of all things, including time and space. And everything 😭

[deep leaf]

u from egypt?

[gusty apex]

theres more arguementto ours against yours than yours agaoinst our bruv

[gusty apex]

🤣

[steady briar]

Since I was a child I was told not to draw mehandi or do any kind of make up because it’s only for my husband to see.

[deep leaf]

no,...just asking💀 🙂 😶

[silver vault]

mikey was a girl all along

[steady briar]

But I just can’t wrap my head around it

[steady briar]

Yup

[formal pilot]

Everything need a creator who created god? Your defination sounds illogical

[slow storm]

Not at all 😭 this is what the teaching of society, not the Islamic teaching

[deep leaf]

he or she?🙂

[gusty apex]

@steady briar tell me where it says the treatment of women is bad or questionable you maleun

[silver vault]

get tattoos out of spite

[formal pilot]

Nope

[steady briar]

I have one actually

[gusty apex]

ok its evrybody choice lmao

[silver vault]

omg show me

[gusty apex]

whers my answer you maleun

[silver vault]

no shit

[steady briar]

Dm?

[silver vault]

uh sure

[gusty apex]

how ignoble can you be?

[deep leaf]

of what..may i ask?

[deep leaf]

thats no word

[steady briar]

Is it ok to share here? Idk the rule

[gusty apex]

wdym

[deep leaf]

yes ok ..np..

[deep leaf]

ignoable?wht does it mean?

[formal pilot]

@silver vault what was the argument?

[gusty apex]

ignoble scroll up

[silver vault]

atheists have the highest rate in suicide than theists

[slow storm]

The God or creator is by definition uncreated and thus asking who created the Creator is also an logical fallacy of definitions.

[gusty apex]

hes so woke he cant even answer my question (mikey)

[deep leaf]

wow🙂 😶

[silver vault]

your questions are baseless

[gusty apex]

so is your existence

[slow storm]

Your emojis make me laugh

[deep leaf]

leave it bro.

[formal pilot]

You're saying something can be created without a creator?

[steady briar]

I can’t send any pics in this idk why

[silver vault]

You have no knowledge about atheists but you still try to argue about their regards

[formal pilot]

What question?

[slow storm]

Not something but God

[gusty apex]

hmm , i grew up with lots

[gusty apex]

scroll up

[formal pilot]

Why?

[formal pilot]

Tag me

[silver vault]

growing up is different than understanding them on deeper level

[deep leaf]

dont laugh in these kind of talks 😶 🙂

[gusty apex]

have studied them , pretty sure you havent studied islam

[formal pilot]

There's no point in argument faith is blind, you can follow whatever you want, i don't give a damn

[silver vault]

You're so quick to disregard anything I have to say about atheistic stance, when I'm one lol

[deep leaf]

this one?

[formal pilot]

I'll delete it, take a ss

[silver vault]

send them in my dms

[formal pilot]

I don't want to fuel Islamophobia

[gusty apex]

@formal pilot

[silver vault]

It's not Islamophobia, idk why you always label it that way

[deep leaf]

ban soon 🙂

[formal pilot]

@gusty apex here is example of justifying rape

[slow storm]

Why do you think there is no God

[formal pilot]

Dude some hindus hate Muslims that the fact

[silver vault]

now see him bring out his own interpretation

[gusty apex]

He told the Muslims: "Fear Allah in respect of women." And: "The best of you are they who behave best to their wives." And: "A Muslim must not hate his wife, and if he be displeased with one bad quality in her, let him be pleased with one that is good." And:"The more civil and kind a Muslim is to his wife, the more ..

[formal pilot]

I'm here to argue will logical things

[steady briar]

I have send it to you

[silver vault]

are there any hindus in here rn

[formal pilot]

Mf you're atheist

[gusty apex]

send me link in dms ill figure out authentic hadith or not

[formal pilot]

Sahih Muslim 1438a

[gusty apex]

being illogical yourslef is not agruable

[gusty apex]

LINK!

[formal pilot]

https://sunnah.com/muslim:1438a

Blud can't even search it lmao