🧠｜serious-chat

[static pivot]

Totally not

I have played it

[meager egret]

I looked online and the reveuws are mostly posytive but somme people found it quite boring, from what I read.

[queen egret]

I read rewies, and forget how this word spells

reviews

[meager egret]

It's an enoying word

[queen egret]

Maybe it's like minecraft survival mode, i played minecraft for 1 500 hours. So i should like stardew valley

[meager egret]

the people from steam find it verry good

and it's solded rn

[queen egret]

Also there is a sale for this game. Em... Still not sure buy or not

[formal scaffold]

depends on your taste, just watch some gameplay ig, I think personally the game was perfect but the time concept is kinda stressfull (it runs out faster), I think cuisineer is similar with a better time concept

[meager egret]

I never played it so idk, it looks fine but looks like it might be repetitive

[queen egret]

U need to play at least 40 hours to complete all quests. And 40 hours for ~$5

Is fine

[formal scaffold]

Nah you'd play more than that trust me, I think if you mix/max and knows the game and ignore anything other than the quests than maybe it's possible

[meager egret]

so are you buying it? I'm curious and it seems like you are convincing youself to do it.

[queen egret]

Maybe

At least my pc will run it)

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/kefçî-kurmancî-kurd-tu-vi-kefçi-dibîne-smile-gif-16202861

You can fitgirl your way into testing it then buy it afterwards

[meager egret]

Loved that movie

[queen egret]

What is it

[meager egret]

I dont remember the name but its french

[queen egret]

Someone played 8 000 hours, maybe he doesn't have a real life

[meager egret]

'Amélie poulin"

that's the name

[queen egret]

Thx

[formal scaffold]

if you hate the grind it will take u about 50 hrs or less

[meager egret]

My culture has been spread ✊

[shell lily]

because it's evident that there are some verses that shows aggressing is illegal.
and if you are still confused between which interpretation is correct don't start attacking people.

[queen egret]

And now there are really serious questions, not about games

[shell lily]

raping ?? I know that you know that raping is prohibited but you still make arguments that those did this out of god's glory.
what makes you sure that this was correct though?
And go to history all religions fought to spread their religions so don't say that like it's a very Islamic thing.

[silver vault]

??

[pearl rain]

Who did exactly attack?
If they have no answer for what they're asked for, they can just ignore.

[formal scaffold]

they don't know that the quranic arabic is poetic and old it's easy to missinterpret it for someone who's arabic native in today's age since we barely use MDA (modern day arabic) that is diffrent that the old arabic, not just that those who interpret it take into consideration history and context, let's say if a verse says 'kill them" like in surat al tawba:09 it speaks about a set of people that have transgressed or killed that deserved to be killed.

[pearl rain]

I explained all of these for another guy who just had the same explanation, you can read them once and then answer.

[paper briar]

No

[silver vault]

What are you even trying to imply here..?

[pearl rain]

Prophet was in those wars tho.

[paper briar]

A huge joke

[slow storm]

Which prophet???

[formal scaffold]

I can give u one vedio of just one word, it take 30 min for the guy to explain why the that word is chosen since arabic has a vocab of 12 million words, each word was precisely places in a dope order (the ring composition effect)

[pearl rain]

Muhammad

[slow storm]

Do the proper research again

It's not possible

[pearl rain]

Girl, I've read about it enough

You better read about history

[cedar oar]

What the hell is even going on here? Somebody please give me a summary for it

[manic juniper]

It all started 66 million years ago

[formal scaffold]

in a dora world everyone will be busy to look for the map and play games and live happily, sadly we live in real world, and medival times were cruel, if u suggest I'd stay there and get killed or let my fam being raped than you are out of your mind

[manic juniper]

There was this huge rock that was going to crash on our planet

[pearl rain]

Ayou don't need to explain thet for me.
I've been studying Arabic for 7 years.

[cedar oar]

No, not that. Tell me about what these people are arguing about

[formal scaffold]

Islam has plages war against the neighbouring kingdom that were either a threat or attacked or planed to attack it

[shell lily]

so it's typically war of badr or something
but saying that they raped that's a bold statement
and yes prophet went in wars against especially people that persecuted him and his muslims
whats new?

[pearl rain]

Are you stupid or something bro?
I just said islam is not a peaceful religion.
And the guy didn't accept it so I came up with the history.

[slow storm]

I never read this particular thing

[shell lily]

for god's sake can you at least share those 'proofs' youre talking about? if you give me a website like yesterday im out of this debate

[pearl rain]

You're just a bigoted person who can't accept the facts and you come up with bullshits then.

[slow storm]

Yess

[formal scaffold]

Dorothy Canfield Fisher has said that "You can't have war without peace", all countries have their own army, where do you have peace on earth without force?

[slow storm]

Where are the facts??? You never share any proof

[pearl rain]

I've already sent them, I'm out then, when I come back, I'll send.

[pearl rain]

Read about chehel dokhtaran.

[formal scaffold]

if I'm stupid and Fisher is stupid then what are you? a genius?

show me how to get peace? or the meaning of it

[pearl rain]

Read about Muslim conquest of Persia.

Read about the prophet's letter to khosro parviz.

[pearl rain]

At least I'm not a bigoted person like you.

[formal scaffold]

you deny the scholars of tafsir and you want us to follow your authors?

[formal scaffold]

I'm not biggoted you got hate issues, it on you

keep hating

[pearl rain]

You never will get the meaning of that since you're a Muslim and all you think about is Jihad.

[shell lily]

And I highly suggest you to confront a sheikh or smth not ppl on discord
because they havent read history and most of em dont know that much about their religion so dont feel like you won an argument while speaking to ordinary ppl on discord that are maybe on the age of 15 or smth

[formal scaffold]

lmao you don't even know what JIhad means xD

[slow storm]

Yeah

[pearl rain]

Who interpreted the verses?
And who decides which interpretation is correct?

[formal scaffold]

Name the rules of JIhad and i'll read that book promise

[paper briar]

And u decide that they are wrong?

[shell lily]

you

[cedar oar]

A Jihad is a holy war, no?

[pearl rain]

Attacking people, making them Muslim or otherwise kill them
Allahu akbar boom

[formal scaffold]

Jihad is struggle, there are types of jihad one of them is Kifah which means fightin, fighting your fear and feeling and yr ennemies

[quick spear]

hello

[slow storm]

Who said this???

[paper briar]

I think u need to learn what is Islam and Muslims.

[torpid stream]

Noo... It's not like this

[paper briar]

Muslims are wrong sometimes but islam is not.

[pearl rain]

If the interpretation of them were right there wouldn't be lots of sects jn Islam lol.

[cedar oar]

The meaning seemd to depend on the context

https://www.britannica.com/topic/jihad

[pearl rain]

The evidence.

[thorny steeple]

hmm

https://tenor.com/view/vinland-saga-thorfinn-thorfinn-edit-vinland-saga-edit-no-enemies-gif-6041841180138873838

be kind guys

[paper briar]

U talking from ur back ig. The sects doesnt change the religion. They are adapting the religion to geographias and traditions.

[torpid stream]

He's familiar

But i forgot

[pearl rain]

I don't but why would be lots of sects in Islam, you guys have problem with your own believers.

[cedar oar]

Oh boy, this arguement just got 2 times as controversial as it was before

[thorny steeple]

no problem

[torpid stream]

It's from anime, your eternity, right?

[formal scaffold]

boom wrong let me educate u:

• can't fight those who are enable to fight (kids- girls- elders) or those who aren't armed
• fight honorable and not back stabbing
• kill using a merciful kill striking the neck to avoid torture
• if they surrender it's prohibited to kill them
• warn before conquest, offer either tax or war to that country
• use the same weapon they use against you

i bet you won't read that bc you are more emotional than rational lol

[pearl rain]

Sunnis and wahabis kill shias and curse them so bad.

[paper briar]

Cuz shias changed the religion

[thorny steeple]

kinda yeah

[paper briar]

Wahhabis too

[torpid stream]

Why kinda

[slow storm]

Where is this???

[pearl rain]

I've seen that in Saudi Arabia.

[paper briar]

Its pretty normal

[thorny steeple]

cuz it is

[torpid stream]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-memes2022funny-meme-face-punch-gif-25436787

[pearl rain]

Arab Muslims
Not turks or persians or azeris Muslims.

[paper briar]

Cuz muslims are not totally innocent

[manic juniper]

Isn't Shia older than Sunni?

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/asura-wrath-friend-sad-fist-clench-gif-15374514

[paper briar]

Does it mean they are true?

[pearl rain]

Wow , does that mean you have to kill them?

[paper briar]

Since they killing us

[cedar oar]

This still doesn't deny the fact that you can kill people, which I am against

[slow storm]

"Islam is a flawless religion, but Muslims aren't flawless. If somebody wants to know about Islam, look to the Quran and Hadith instead of just looking at what individual Muslims do."

[manic juniper]

If it's the oldest branch I doubt they're the ones that changed it

[torpid stream]

His story is so sad lmao. I once cried because of this anime

[slow storm]

@pearl rain read this

[pearl rain]

Bro you're just a brainwashed guy

[thorny steeple]

yeah this anime has great story ik

its good

[slow storm]

Don't go into sects

[formal scaffold]

you can't run a country if you can't kill nobody, the police, the executions, the wars we are living on earth buddy as you know better than god how to handle humans i'll keep abiding by this way

[torpid stream]

https://tenor.com/view/fumetsu-no-anata-e-to-your-eternity-fuumetsu-no-anata-e-march-gif-21228928

[slow storm]

We all are Muslims

[paper briar]

This is not an assessment of how old they are or not, but how well they follow the Qur'an and Sunnah.

[torpid stream]

Especially when this girl died.. the scene😭

[thorny steeple]

😔

[cedar oar]

I am very well aware of the fact that we live on Earth. That fact however, does not excuse humanities atrocities against itself, which you seem to support

[paper briar]

Ahahahaha me? Husis killed thousands of sunnis in yemen

[formal scaffold]

kill 1 to save 100 that's perfect to me, watch 100 die that's kinda irresponsible

[manic juniper]

Yesterday some were supporting torture like cutting hands just to stop people from robbing

[pearl rain]

You better first educate yourself
Yes they don't fight them they kill the men , got their wives and rape the girls.
And if you believe all those sentences after it , then Islam is not a peaceful religion as also evidences say that.

[cedar oar]

That came out of nowehere, and does not directly adress my statement

[paper briar]

Shias always stabbed us from back in the history (look at ottomans especially)

[formal scaffold]

I'm talking about sharia, idk where u pull all that from, islamophobe.com xd

[manic juniper]

If Shia are older than Sunni then they're the ones that have been betrayed, and those that the others split from

[formal scaffold]

it does if you know sharia, the history of islam conquests and what it preaches

[cedar oar]

That sure tells the tales of how worthy extremists are to be argued with

[pearl rain]

boom wrong let me educate u:

• can't fight those who are enable to fight (kids- girls- elders) or those who aren't armed
• fight honorable and not back stabbing
• kill using a merciful kill striking the neck to avoid torture
• if they surrender it's prohibited to kill them
• warn before conquest, offer either tax or war to that country
• use the same weapon they use against you

i bet you won't read that bc you are more emotional than rational lol😂😂😂😂

Sooooo

[slow storm]

She is talking about people...
And we are talking about Sharia

[formal scaffold]

it preaches dealing with issues before they occur and if they do taking care of them

[pearl rain]

Didn't your prophet follow sharia honey?

[manic juniper]

?

[paper briar]

Bro shia isnt a sect all by itself. Shia means the ones following hazrat Ali but they changed the religion in time.

[pearl rain]

🤔

[slow storm]

Alhumdullilah he followed

[pearl rain]

By attacking a country and raping their girls?

[cedar oar]

Using common sense, the 100 to 1 person thing only applies to specific situations, and you seem to make those situations all of them. And I do not know what those other things you mentioned are

[cedar oar]

War is not a good solution to an issue

[paper briar]

AHAHAHHAHA u think thats true? they killed all the sunnis (near to all) there. And it doesnt matter whom they killed or how they killed. They killed innocent people there.

[slow storm]

This is disgusting u don't have the proper knowledge you never read the life of our prophet at all just attacking our religion nd prophet

[pearl rain]

Honey it's not Alhumdullilah
It's Alhamdulillah -> الحمدلله
To be a good Muslim, you have to learn how to pronounce them correctly.

I have to teach you those as well

[formal scaffold]

let me tell you before i go eat it's time for iftar, back in medival times there was no such thing as laws pillaging was common you'd imagine islam saved those villages, applying rules of islam that fixes society rducing kills and mugging and all that I see that as a perfect mirroring to what I said without adressing more bc i don't have the time to

[pearl rain]

😭😭

[formal scaffold]

god bless you all

[paper briar]

Lemme educate u, no girls raped by prophet. Nor by ashab

[pearl rain]

But he didn’t stop another Muslim Arabs.

Lol

[paper briar]

No he stopped

[formal scaffold]

you can't educate and emotional brainwashed person who called me stupid

[paper briar]

U are lying now

[formal scaffold]

salam guys

[pearl rain]

So why there's chehel dokhtaran tomb?

Why did those girls killed themselves to not get raped by arab Muslims?

[paper briar]

May allah guide her

[shell lily]

ppl been talking for hours not a single evidence was shared
so pathetic lol
meaningless debate ngl

[pearl rain]

Let me mention, they weren't shia, they were people who followed Zoroastrianism

[pearl rain]

Well you have to read book to get those evidences
I just named the things which you can easily Google.

[cedar oar]

This a heap of nonsense. I know very well that the Medieval Ages were not to be compared to the modern era, which you yourself seem to do, which undermined your Islamic law thing even more. And my point was that wars were bad, not whatever you uttered there

[slow storm]

Tbh it's useless to debate here you guys are brainwashed..
Go on... Our Allah subhanawa tala said:
"And it has already been revealed to you in the Book (this Quran) that when you hear the Verses of Allah being denied and mocked at, then sit not with them, until they engage in a talk other than that; (but if you stayed with them) certainly in that case you would be like them."
Surah An Nisa. Verse 140

[shell lily]

there are some sheikhs you can debate as i told you guys people here in discord don't have that much knowledge that you guys are demanding some don't know even the difference between shia and sunni

[pearl rain]

And we can't educate bigoted religious people who have no knowledge about their own religion and pronounce Alhamdulillah as alhumullllah

[paper briar]

Idk what that is but i bet its from Umayyads

[shell lily]

which source of google is deemed right? based on your opinion

[slow storm]

Dear I'm not writing it in Arabic

[queen egret]

Good night guys, it is 11pm in my region

[pearl rain]

I bet I can read Quran better than you.

[paper briar]

Who

[formal pilot]

[slow storm]

As Quran said:
"These are not the eyes that are blind but the hearts"

[pearl rain]

Still you have to know its pronunciation

[pearl rain]

All of you, the Muslim guys here

[cedar oar]

How long were you lurking for, @formal pilot?

[slow storm]

And you also have to know what's write and what is wrong..
Isn't??

[paper briar]

Hahahah lol

Yeah yeah i bet u can

[formal pilot]

yes

[pearl rain]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_Persia

And there are more.

[paper briar]

WIKIPEDIA??? LMAOOO

[dull flame]

Hello chat

[manic juniper]

There are peer reviewed articles about it on JSTOR

[slow storm]

Hii

[manic juniper]

It's really well known that Zoroastrians were oppressed and their temples destroyed or converted

[dull flame]

How are you

[slow storm]

People who don't have any knowledge have Wikipedia 😂

[manic juniper]

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4310561
It takes less than 10 seconds to find an article about it

[slow storm]

Alhumdullilah good wby?

[pearl rain]

Well you guys are too lazy and illiterate to read books otherwise I would name some of them😂😂😂

[paper briar]

AHAHAHAHA Im dying when people show the wikipedia as their resource

[pearl rain]

I just named a lot but you guys just ignored so I started with wikipedia

😂

[paper briar]

Yeah yeah im sure u can but im not reading those bs's

Read some history written by trusted names

Not persians 😄

They always think they are right like u

[pearl rain]

Yes that's what I call a bigoted person
A person who has no knowledge but believing in some bullshits who have no idea about
And they don't even try to educate themselves by reading some books and research

I myself read Quran so many times, I bet more than you.

[manic juniper]

Kinda xenophobic to say

[torpid stream]

What's the topic

[slow storm]

Seriously 😂😂

[paper briar]

AHHAAHAH u think so?

[slow storm]

Same bro same

[pearl rain]

You better think as well😭

[paper briar]

U read quran more than me? ahahahahah bro just be cool. I probably memorized quran more than u read in ur whole life

[slow storm]

Btw, I'm going for reciting Quran, have a good day or night
Ttyl

[pearl rain]

Honey those books I named weren't by persians😂😭

[pearl rain]

Oh sure?
Let's do vc then

[paper briar]

Me, u vc? Dont think that im dumb

[pearl rain]

And let's open our cams and start to read Quran

[paper briar]

Im not in the race of Proving myself

U are the one

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-nuke-j-robert-oppenheimer-destroyer-of-the-worlds-death-gif-15159234

[paper briar]

You need confirmation

From everyone

[pearl rain]

Bro is scared

Why not?

[paper briar]

Yeah yeah lets say that

Im scared

[pearl rain]

If you have a lot of knowledge and you know Quran more than me just let's do vc

[paper briar]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-heart-panic-scared-caught-gif-6123204

[paper briar]

Im not gonna race w my knowledge and skills

Cuz theres always higher than high

[pearl rain]

Awwww it's okay honey I've seen a lot of kids like you

[torpid stream]

Well, almost all of the muslims are usually read the Quran over and over for years.

[paper briar]

But u cant race w ur knowledge

[torpid stream]

Since they were kid

[pearl rain]

Same.

[paper briar]

Only some bs's u heard from instagram

[pearl rain]

I'm not a Muslim tho

I used to be one

[torpid stream]

Ohh

[pearl rain]

Will you read some books if I recommend you?

But you have to explain after you read them for me.

Will you? Those aren't from instagram or anything

But researchers

[paper briar]

And im a primary school student?

[pearl rain]

But still I read it

[paper briar]

Tell me some

[torpid stream]

What makes you deconvert (idk what it's called)

[pearl rain]

I just want to make sure the guy who's telling me that I've been seeing those from Instagram, reads some books.

[formal pilot]

Non-believer

[paper briar]

You need ego gratification, but tell me about the books I'm going to look at.

[pearl rain]

A lot of reasons tbh

[torpid stream]

I know. But what's the specific

[torpid stream]

Such as?

why this ramadhan is full of religions debate

[sacred haven]

What's the meaning of "serious chat"? What do we talk here?

[formal pilot]

infidel 💀

[torpid stream]

?def infidel

[cursive bobcat]

Word: infidel

Definition (noun): a person who does not acknowledge your god

Definition requested by lupus1.

[torpid stream]

I see

[solar quest]

talking abt serious stuff

[torpid stream]

But i want it from her

Sclawghh i forgot to sleep

[thorny steeple]

damn, why it doesn't work

[torpid stream]

It's 1 am already

[pearl rain]

Wow this Muslim guy is so rude to me
Is that a rule in Islam? 😭😭

[formal pilot]

Lmao I'm atheist

[sacred haven]

Like some extra clever stuff?

[torpid stream]

Did you reach the level requirement

[manic juniper]

You are an infidel to 99% of the other religions, or 100% if atheist

[pearl rain]

How come an Atheist defend Islam😭

[solar quest]

yeah smth like tht

[formal pilot]

I never did

[manic juniper]

I think it was a joke

[solar quest]

bro is neutral ( I think)

[sacred haven]

I see, they are talking about religion

[thorny steeple]

There is level requirement? I didn't know

[solar quest]

yeah i do think it's a hard stuff to talk abt

[silver vault]

Bro dared to make a joke in the serious chat??

[haughty jolt]

what y'all obsessed with religion and dont know anything about it

[manic juniper]

Why would we, it's so boring

[formal pilot]

Learning from lord lmknot

[manic juniper]

It's much better to study dinosaurs

[pearl rain]

I won't tell them here because I don't want Muslim guys start to attack me and insult me again.

[torpid stream]

It says you need a specific level to get the perm

[silver vault]

We used to believe yk

[sacred haven]

Well I quite consider myself atheist

[formal pilot]

Dude atleast suggest em sapiens by Noah harari

Start with evolution

[manic juniper]

That book isn't very scientific, it's mostly entertainment

There are some alternative books but I don't know if they are that readable

[formal pilot]

Don't say that, it's my one of fav

[solar quest]

i hv smth like a national geographic books abt dinosour i never read them☠️ but the dinosour pict is cool tho

[torpid stream]

Lmao... I remember that guy

He can't even debate

[manic juniper]

It's entertaining but a lot of the conclusions there are just his opinions

[torpid stream]

And saying he won

[manic juniper]

I'm envying that already

[formal pilot]

That's why I left my religion, there's nothing about dinosaurs in holy book

[solar quest]

[manic juniper]

Empires of the Word and How Humans Evolved will satisfy your search for knowledge if what interests you is anthropological science or similar

[manic juniper]

Technically they are included, just not the extinct dinosaurs

The Holy Spirit's manifestation for one is a white dove, and doves are dinosaurs

[pearl rain]

The Closing of the Muslim Mind
Islam and the Future of Tolerance
The Quest for Meaning, Developing a Philosophy of Pluralism
There are still more. But start with these ones, which I'm sure you never read any book😂

[manic juniper]

I'm sure that birds are featured in many or most mythological texts

[pearl rain]

@paper briar

[manic juniper]

There is one called Iranian Studies or something

[paper briar]

I will read parts of them

[formal pilot]

Added to the list, thanks for suggestion

[pearl rain]

They would say that's an Isreali guy so we're not gonna read it, that's why I named another books.

[manic juniper]

There are many I've read about that field

[pearl rain]

I don't think if they read but it's good to share, at least they're not gonna say you guys have no evidence and the only evidence of yours is wilipedia lol

[manic juniper]

Wikipedia has sources, even then it isn't difficult to imagine that those people didn't just change from a faith to another for no reason at all

There are few ways to achieve that, only one is "peaceful" and even then it's just less bloody than the alternatives

[pearl rain]

They probably think Wikipedia is written by me and you😂

[manic juniper]

I should consider becoming an author for the reptile pages

[formal pilot]

Yeah dude we need more information about lesbian lizards

[pearl rain]

Read the tafsirs.

[formal pilot]

Dude I'm not making this up

Lesbian lizards legit exist

[pearl rain]

Yes, he's an Atheist.

[formal pilot]

@manic juniper back me up

[manic juniper]

Just search Aspidoscelis neomexicanus

[formal pilot]

It's like Matrix in glitch

[manic juniper]

https://uk.inaturalist.org/taxa/194096-Aspidoscelis-neomexicanus

[spring zephyr]

GUYZ

THE TIME HAS COME

HERE : https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1218995937771389048

Invite everyone.

[covert raptor]

🧐

[formal scaffold]

despite the number of antitheist 15% vs 84% of theist they committed quiet the murders, and you call that nonesense? explain it then, give a counter argument bc this fairy tale yall talking about I see it only in cartoons

[cedar oar]

This again, ignores the point which I made. I said that I'm against wars. And also, cite your sources

[formal scaffold]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1120818572797685811

I'd advice for u to continue here maybe later since I'm leaving for prayer now adios

[formal scaffold]

my point was you are a regular person vs a leader, you can't compare both

[cedar oar]

And how is that a reply to my message?

[cedar oar]

There is no need to advise me upon my doings

[cedar oar]

I am a regular person who uses common sense, like most

[formal scaffold]

bruh, they changed this chanel to non relegion topics if u wanna keep doing it here i won't reply to u, you prefer this over an advice?

[cedar oar]

This channel had no obligation to be religious

[formal scaffold]

lol my point was about leading not a random person u can live as u please, you talking as if it's required to kill to become a muslim, hope I see that logic once they abduct yr parents and dismember them in front of ur eyes

[formal scaffold]

find someone to argue with I'm not going to be here bye

[cedar oar]

I'm not sure why you got that violent, but that was not even close to my point

[cedar oar]

Go find a circus to partake in, a violent one at that

As always, lurking

[formal scaffold]

a circus where i can defend my fam instead of watching them die in front of my eyes and hide inside the shelf surely do

[cedar oar]

Not sure what you meant there. Grasping its meaning will require a lot more correcting

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/abbybarb-dora-gif-21201551

here's better than a circus IG

[cedar oar]

Scent of a missed point, indeed

[cedar oar]

That's quite a good point, it can be

Brb

Back

@thorny steeple, report on the situation

Any situation which seems interesting enough

One small problem with that, I gotta go soon

[covert raptor]

Back to fasting

[silent arch]

Didn't know Muhammadphobia was a label as well..

[covert spear]

idk guys i found this

this chat is died sense 15 mins

[shut iris]

Lemme revive it for you

ISRAEL OR PALESTINE

[hybrid creek]

bro knows how to revive the chat using pressing political topics

[shut iris]

You just have to go controversial

[hybrid creek]

in such moments i tend to be rather impartial and avoid talking about that, you know
dont feel like losing my limited energy+time on discussing with random people from the Internet whom I see the 1st and the last time

[shut iris]

I already know you but that’s besides the point 😂 my goal was to revive this chat

[grave temple]

overused topic but sure

[shut iris]

Still controversial

[hybrid creek]

huh? are you the very guy of whom i guessed?

[grave temple]

yeah

[shut iris]

Maybe, maybe not

[hybrid creek]

WOW! practically 2 years

[hybrid creek]

even tho seldom do we touch the base, i've memorized you xD

[covert spear]

yo

[shut iris]

I miss the old debate club when I used to demolish anyone

[hybrid creek]

maaan, you're broaching such a pressing subject☠️
i had a fit, watching that

[shut iris]

[hybrid creek]

you used to demolish?!?!

[shut iris]

Debating was my part time job back then

[hybrid creek]

you came across as a funny and interesting person there for me, afaik
and rn i see the message which made me taken aback 😅

[shut iris]

Yep, I have my own way

[hybrid creek]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-shelby-gif-23960893

[covert spear]

christian bale

[covert spear]

is that a 4k vid?

noep

[shut iris]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-out-of-smoke-homer-smoke-gif-25188026

[covert spear]

this is 4k

[torpid stream]

Too clean, hurts my eyes

[covert spear]

Lol

[shut iris]

https://tenor.com/view/gltihez-gif-22210082

[thorny steeple]

hey Is anyone interested in modern Islamic history?

[vestal grove]

sure

[thorny steeple]

well, I'm starting to write a thesis about modernization and westernization in Islam, especially things that happened during the reign of Abdulhamid in the Ottoman period.

[twilit delta]

guys

i cant concentrate

[thorny steeple]

I have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder 😂

[vestal grove]

and what changed

[twilit delta]

rip

[thorny steeple]

Try to do what you do in other ways.

[thorny steeple]

Actually, I feel a little anxious and I don't have much idea how I should write, I'm just doing research right now.

awww I used to call myself lazy, but now..😁 but I still can't finish my homework.

[vestal grove]

ah
I'm a muslim myself but I wanted to know more about what you meant by westernization

[thorny steeple]

you can read Muhammad Iqbal and Ali Shariati

hahaha same here

[thorny steeple]

In fact, it is a very deep subject and you can also read Fuat Sezgin's answers to the allegations of orientalism.

[vestal grove]

well i will do my research on those people but i have heard alot of things about Ali Shariati books and i think I will see for myself

[covert spear]

sup guys

[subtle swallow]

Hello

How it's going

[covert spear]

its going good tbu

now im tryna revive two chats

too hard

[thorny steeple]

where are you from if you don't mind

[vestal grove]

bahrain

🇧🇭

[merry grove]

Hi

[vagrant galleon]

I'm new here

I'm Kurdish

Hello

@thorny steeple you're kurdish right?

[warped herald]

hahahaha

[thorny steeple]

baleeee jannnn

[thorny steeple]

Is anyone here working in a higher level of a company or business like manager, ceo etc?

[heavy parcel]

i m a president

[thorny steeple]

May I know what company or firm?

[heavy parcel]

turkey

[covert raptor]

Funny

[thorny steeple]

My pfp says it all

[heavy parcel]

lmao

[covert raptor]

And I'm the young, spirited priest, By the order of the Vatican, I'll be at your service. My president

Though I'm not Muslim. Would that cause a slight pain in your heart?

[heavy parcel]

no

we should rule the christian world too

[thorny steeple]

Nes

[covert raptor]

Ugh
No

[covert raptor]

Mr President, your quietness is signaling me a strong message.

I'ma fast till the death of the universe. I'll say, I will be missing those delightful business dealings to bless.

Good luck people. Hope those go well and does shatter expectations.

[heavy parcel]

what kinda mind you re living in

[covert raptor]

One word: turbulent

I wish you well.

[feral river]

Christian fighters may drop thousand tons democracy to those who think they can rule above them.

I don't think have a day dream is interesting and I focus on reality.

[thorny steeple]

?

https://youtu.be/rdKsO3NFv8s

[covert raptor]

He's confused because of the developing events in his country. I don't blame him.

Turkey resembles my mind. It is quite a storm, but clearly there's one thing I don't have, evil. Evil took hold of Turkey a long while ago. The economy is bursting out in flames, the corrupt bureaucrats carrying huge bags of gold and silver have fled on the fireworks to the heavens. This has sparked a colorful display.

I recognize those colorful lights far and far away from where I am. Here from the Vatican's holy roof top, I can see the fireworks to my heart's content. I watch the corrupt bureaucrats on their way to "heaven", and the less fortunate people left by, below in the dust -- invisible to my eye. Oh I heard they have close to nothing! A few loaves of bread, and a handful of beans to feed them, and their hungry family. Perhaps keep them alive for a week. Unfair! Unfair! Unfair!

Do not be worried. No heaven suits pesky greedy hogs. No heaven will fulfill their indefinite greed. They are all, in fact, riding to hell merrily together though they have mistaken it for heaven. Good. It will hit them by surprise when their destination is reached.

My Dear Turkish People, let's celebrate with the little that we have. Those gold and silver bars don't mean anything.

You are not forgotten. We are piously praying for you all. We have some charity, and free meals to offer as well. Keep in touch.

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/W2dgeKA2LQw

[feral river]

"The pope, how many divisions he have ?" - Stalin.

[thorny steeple]

this isnt about religion , this is about a culture of evil existing in the world , that is the evil people and culture needs to be destroyed .

alot of the religious institutes corrupted on all sides , states authoritarian , control , power , mainstream media that divides us

i dont condone hate or violence , i just promote love , and a healthy culture .

and people of the world to be aware of the tricks being played on them

AI , manupilation , sort out your differences with sport ..... like rugby kek

just be aware of the tricks being played on you people https://youtu.be/5okSlrbgELA

https://youtu.be/m9C3vcRlBOY

listen to my music https://open.spotify.com/track/5rtwIPbknGUBMIGpKs45gr?si=36fde266bf444644

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1E4nAqdB4LgfP2?si=07dac1cd15c64a0c

listen to the trumpets

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1E4CCq3qEvCrQU?si=127d0f9d19b64d81

the way for the world lies in NZ music not kidding

i want a world of peace

[feral river]

this isnt about ideologies , this is about a culture of evil existing in the world , that is the evil people and culture needs to be destroyed .
alot of the ideologies institutes corrupted on all sides , states authoritarian , control , power , mainstream media that divides us
i dont condone hate or violence , i just promote love , and a healthy culture .
and people of the world to be aware of the tricks being played on them
AI , manupilation , sort out your differences with sport ..... like rugby kek
just be aware of the tricks being played on you people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4kfhy5Kzkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNPKRjNEZ5E

[thorny steeple]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1E4zEDa8sx0hkD?si=820535580cb1457a

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX6JKXuPnMT5v?si=7fcf9da29da44977

https://open.spotify.com/album/65c55g0RErgp2yjjXfGTeG?si=9ioOry7zR9mzwkxxo4_GMw

[feral river]

it's not your pretext for spreading influence, and I can do it too

[thorny steeple]

i want a world of peace

[feral river]

I also want a world of peace

[thorny steeple]

not just your country , the world

[feral river]

but I don't think your way is right to the world of peace

my way is

[thorny steeple]

the old world is dying , a world of peace and love is what everyone wants

tell us , share your idea

work together idc , just no hate , only love , no division , united

[feral river]

my idea is simple, restructure world with one single ideology one single rule and liberate the entire world and achieve world peace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Common_Destiny

[thorny steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism

all the compaines that make weapons , the nukes , they need to go ........ all bad actors do is divide us . play sport instead of combat , be wholesome , be traditional , have a sense of community , community of love and peace

[feral river]

they don't they promote world peace if there is no weapons there is no solution for the conflict of humanity

there is no nukes, there is the war with superpowers and creating more holocaust

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/sCZFPfe0LvA

my country greatest ever speech

or one of them anyway

[feral river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUajFAl9vDY

a good summit

or one of them anyway

[thorny steeple]

everyone wants peace , look for people that sow division ..... why we all humans here on earth

why cant we all live in peace .....

greed has ruined everything

[feral river]

everyone wants peace and hate someone using the flag of peace for creating more holocaust and achieve their sick political idea with the flag of peace

[thorny steeple]

?

i know , how to solve ? please share ideas

AI is dangerous

the internet is toxic

controlled

[feral river]

AI is dangerous and advanced at the same time, there is no AI there is no advance on technology

[thorny steeple]

manipulated

[feral river]

there is no AI there is backward and some country which developed AI is advanced and they have more advantage over you

and you will have less right than now

[thorny steeple]

things need to slow down , its advancing too fast ..... people need to chill out and go back to more tradition ways , spend time with family and enjoy life instead of being consumer drones

be happy with what you have , rather then what you dont , if you want to help the world ,you help the poorest people first

[feral river]

it should be fast if it doesn't fast how to develop economy how to achieve prosperity how to liberate the worker ?

it should be and it always be it never stop

[feral river]

there always be a reason that they are poor and I'm rich

[thorny steeple]

a world united , not divided , all i everyone wants is peace and de-escalation , and love and and respect

[feral river]

why would I help some losers in this world even they can't generate any value to the society ?

[thorny steeple]

a culture , not a religon or idology

[feral river]

they are the useless class.

[thorny steeple]

because its called being human ...... and showing compassion

your attitude says it all.

[feral river]

selling compassion is a marketing decision

you are using compassion to market your idea

[thorny steeple]

brah im only selling love , peace and respect , and its free.....

[feral river]

that's what you are doing

[thorny steeple]

me ?

[feral river]

love, peace and respect have prices

some people have and some people doesn't have, it has reason if they don't have it

[thorny steeple]

why you got to put a price on it ? your greedy

[feral river]

I'm not greedy but I'm fair

[thorny steeple]

later

[feral river]

100% fair

I'm not promoting divisions, suppresses, but it happened based on different situation, you should know why they are poor, why they are being suppressed.

why you are not being suppressed, that's a simple thing

everyone needs to be responsible for all of their decisions, no exceptions, even the cost is to death.

[thorny steeple]

calm down paper tiger .

[feral river]

if it's free with no price everyone will have it because it's free

but it's not.

[thorny steeple]

https://open.spotify.com/artist/0a2RyaJGZwNek1n0fpNPVp?si=i7eiesWvSjiGr4q1R5QeMw

?

internet is toxic , go outside and touch grass . gn all.

[feral river]

"All reactionaries are paper tigers" Mao zedong

[shell lily]

Do you know how the Islamic conquest works? as I told you if Muslims find persecution while trying to spread Islam then they defend themselves with army(then they rule that area after the victory) but never compel them to convert to Islam. They launch conquests to let them spread Islam among people and who wanted to be Muslim they are free and if they didn't they are free too.
{لا إِكْرَاهَ فِي الدِّينِ قَدْ تَبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ }[البقرة:256]
{ادْعُ إِلَى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُم بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلم بمن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدينَ}
They never put a sword on civilians' necks to convert to Islam, if you are saying otherwise give me resources(especially in the prophet era) and I don't want western resources that fit your allegations.
Well in India Muslims ruled the area for 800 years but some people they didn't want to be Muslims and they let them to do so, most of them now aren't Muslims unlike Persians. Islam doesn't want people that are gonna be hypocrites, Islam only supports people that are truly willing to be Muslims.
Indonesia has the most Muslim population on earth yet not a single Muslim soldier has stepped in their land.
Actually I know this debate will have endless arguments since even if I give you tons of evidences you'll be always like: how do I know which interpretation is correct? how do I know which resource is the most authentic? since you don't know don't even start talking like you know the true truth, in this state you can ask questions but not considering yourself that you know the truth .

And I repeat again if you have any question regarding Islam go to any sheikh nearby and ask him don't ask random fellas on discord because that requires a good knowledge about history but some people as I said they don't even know some basic stuff

[thorny steeple]

I don't want to argue, but i know that Islamic rulers demanded regular payment from population who remained Christian in Georgia, and they often killed Georgian Kings who doesn't became Islamic

[shell lily]

Yes there's a regular payment that should be paid for non Muslims on Muslim lands in that era it's called Jezia, it was symbolic and cheap

[solar quest]

yeah bcz Islam entered Indonesia through traders XD

[shell lily]

bro its haram to kill people who don't wanna become Muslims
and Muslims aren't angels they can kill even Muslims it's happening evey single day

[silent arch]

mughal empire was kinda rich but it was probably the worst time period in indian history

[shell lily]

@thorny steeple why u deleted it? be courageous

[thorny steeple]

Ok, i said that i don't want to argue, i respect every religion

[silent arch]

And there certainly were instances of forced conversions and persecution under Aurangzeb's rule

particularly targeting lower castes and marginalized communities

[thorny steeple]

I'm not religious but i don't think hating religions is good

[silent arch]

Who's hating religion here?

[shell lily]

Mughal?? what's that?

[thorny steeple]

[silent arch]

The Muslim Dynasty who ruled over India from the 16th to 19th century

And it wasn't as good as you're implying it to be

[shell lily]

Bro whether it was in good economy or not that doesn't matter to me I'm talking about that they didn't force them to be muslims

[silent arch]

They did

[supple helm]

Assalamualaikum

[shell lily]

well that's cool
any evidence?

[silent arch]

Wait

[thorny steeple]

You see u dont need to force your religion here @shell lily

Being one side

[supple helm]

Islam will be ghalib

[shell lily]

i won't talk to you just stay there and dont interfere

[shell lily]

I'm waiting

[thorny steeple]

No need to be arrogant

[shell lily]

don't share your hatred here on islam

go get a life

[thorny steeple]

Says the one joined discord 2020 and still here 2024

4 years in discord you see

[shell lily]

says the one that wastes his money on nitro

[thorny steeple]

Because i have job to pay for it

And you dont

[shell lily]

so the others dont have a job?

[thorny steeple]

Your profile, "he/him/sigma"

[shell lily]

I hope you get out from the matrix

hope you make it son

[thorny steeple]

Hi everyone

[shell lily]

hhhhh

[silent arch]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362047197_A_Note_on_Conception_of_Aurangzeb_Alamgir_Religious_Policy

[feral river]

I just freaking curious why would I accept your religion ? 🤣

[vestal grove]

Well you are paying taxes now 💀
And if you study history well you will find every single empire did something similar
Even the british whole history
Collecting taxes

[feral river]

It justify nothing, still conquest and they finally lose

the new order is mostly based on the western worlds because they are the biggest winner of the WW2 and cold war

you are literally nothing, except battlegrounds between those superpowers, even they have a lot of internal issues and still fight against their own people.

you have to conquest it first by power by politics or something else, and the second thing is rule.

it's just a political tool for establish order and rule.

[vestal grove]

All empires and powerful countries fall eventually
And become history

[feral river]

you may curious why they fall ? because their ideology is outdated, is being replaced by new ideologies, but it doesn't mean their ideology doesn't have good points.

or being annexed, or collapsed etc.

if the ideology kept, the new empire will re-establish again but the point is their ideology falled.

[vestal grove]

Good point

[thorny steeple]

of course, every single Empire did the same things throughout the history. Islam rulers did horrible things to my country, they don't only demanded to pay taxes, but i don't hate islam because of this

[vestal grove]

What country are you from?

@thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

I'm from Georgia

[feral river]

actually our Tang dynasty and Frankish Empire is a core reason for collapsing and falling of the arabic empire

because their fund is highly relied on trading from the east and the west

but during the time, there is a civil war in Tang, and few conflicts happened in frankish empire, the trading is ceased so they have no benefit to unite again so they are collapsed.

that's a major figure

[torpid stream]

Religion debate again

Bye

[vestal grove]

Not really
They fought themselves for the throne

[torpid stream]

Since ramadhan started dawg😭

Yeah we should bring a new topic here

[vestal grove]

We talking about history dawg

[feral river]

that's for religion 😭 not politics and philosophy and history

[vestal grove]

We mentioned Chinese history and georgian history

Anyways im in the middle of a lecture
Im out

[pearl rain]

Izze, I just explained for the other guy
It's so annoying that I've to write about it again
"The Muslim conquest of Persia, also called the Muslim conquest of Iran, the Arab conquest of Persia, or the Arab conquest of Iran, was a major military campaign undertaken by the Rashidun Caliphate between 632 and 654. As part of the early Muslim conquests, which had begun under Muhammad in 622, it led to the fall of the Sasanian Empire and the eventual decline of Zoroastrianism, which had been predominant throughout Persia as the nation's official religion. The persecution of Zoroastrians by the early Muslims during and after this conflict prompted many of them to flee eastward to India, where they were granted refuge by various kings."
Look, They were the ones who attacked Persia, They didn't defend themselves because persians attacked their country.
So defending themselves while they just attacked is a nonsense.
You may ask why did they attack tho?
Prophet sent a letter which was about invitation to Islam to Khosro Parviz who was a Zaetosht and he didn't accept, so they attacked Persia to make them Muslim.
What did they do? They killed People (men) as I repeated so many times, got their wives or raped the girls, you may ask show me a proof? Then you can read about Chehel dokhtaran) and a lot of another resources.
You told me I've to talk to Sheikhs which I've done it so many times, but they have no knowledge about history fr I've showed them books and so many recourses and they just come up with ayats and when I say okay I see this ayat but what about the Prophet who was the person who attacked first? They start to talk about defending stuff so I find it really nonsense and boring tbh. Also Sheikhs themselves have all different ideas lol.

[thorny steeple]

Hi everyone

[crimson jungle]

😃

[feral river]

I would say I don't think anyone care who attacked first because it's pointless.

but all they care who has win.

[north jungle]

Hello dear English speaking mates, I would like to improve my formal English here.

[prisma mortar]

That'll be five bucks.

[pearl rain]

I mean he just said Muslims don't attack anywhere they just defend themselves, that's why I mentioned that.

[shut iris]

I would suggest that you write formally from now onwards, you will sound more reformed in your speech.

[vestal grove]

(Parwiz b. Hurmuz)
Then, he said to Abdullah b. Hu­za­fa, the envoy of the Prophet, “The land and the sovereignty belong to me! I have no worry or fear whatsoever about being defeated or encountering someone who wants to share them. The Pharaoh ruled the Sons of Israel. You are not stronger than them. What can prevent me from ruling you? I am stronger than the Pharaoh!’ Then, he ordered his men to dismiss Abdullah.
saying to us that he can rule us ofc we gonna show him who rules over who

[livid pine]

Hi guys

I have a joke for you all

[vestal grove]

also when muslims dont take over countries just like that during that period
they get an option
either pay tax or we will go to war
all stronger countries forced some sort of tax on weaker ones
thats what all empires and strong countries do back then.

[livid pine]

What is going through people's minds in school shooting?

Bullets 🤯

[thorny steeple]

I dont think its funny

[vestal grove]

and a 3rd option u become a muslim country and we wont ask you for tax
like seriously our empires didnt even do genocides or enslave whole populations
we dont even need to go far back in history to find such countries
look at the british empire history
the french
etc
full of genocides and enslaving countries
unlike us we didnt even burn a tree
ppl saying arabs raped women and killed men
first we dont kill unarmed men during war
women are out of question we dont even touch them

[thorny steeple]

Do you thinks its good to make fun of something where alots of people died innocently

[vestal grove]

yall are on something just focusing on muslims 😂
look at your countries first before judging us

[thorny steeple]

Its not joke its mock to victims of school shooting you see

[vestal grove]

js ignore that kid
seaking attention or tryna be funny

actually upto this day the french are still controlling many African countries natural resources 💀

[livid pine]

Oh man 😞

[feral river]

🤣 are you serious ?

if they didn't attack anyone what is their territory come from ?

[pearl rain]

That's what he said.

[feral river]

oh yeah

[manic juniper]

I guess you've never heard of Zanzibar

[vestal grove]

believe me they dont want to know or any of that
you dont need to ask a sheikh or something all you need is the ability to read and research

[vestal grove]

whats about it

[feral river]

is that point that you don't do genocides and enslave the whole populations ?

that's the only thing that contemporary people think

[manic juniper]

https://www.dw.com/en/east-africas-forgotten-slave-trade/a-50126759
A lot of slavery going on there led by the people you were claiming never enslaved en masse lol

[feral river]

idk why always missing the point

the point has never be the slave or genocide or something

the point is why they have to accept your rule

[vestal grove]

very simple actually

[manic juniper]

There were massive revolts going on there as well, because of class differences and racism

[feral river]

because you are powerful, that's the first thing you have ability to conquer them

that's the point

[vestal grove]

yes

like any other empire

[feral river]

always talking about genocide, something they already done for conquer and they can literally do that

really weird

[vestal grove]

but when we conquer we dont do that

[feral river]

when we conquer we don't do that too

[vestal grove]

everyone else does not us

[feral river]

then who is the next being conquered ?

that's not your excuse for conquer and occupy a whole nation

[manic juniper]

Literally linked an article that says the opposite

[feral river]

about rule, they can literally kill a lot of enemies, that's what they should do.

[manic juniper]

There are no morally superior warmongers and slavers, own up to your history rather than denying it

[feral river]

if there is no enemies why conquer ?

[vestal grove]

back then people didnt have the internet to spread something
and kings and emporers wont let something spread in their country that they dont like

[feral river]

conquer is like if you conquered them, you have their population, you can tax on their people, you literally got more political power, more resources, more geopolitical power and more you got.

you always conquer for your team, your group your nation

we all conquer that's why nation exist.

[vestal grove]

arabs back then werent good at planning and running countries

so doing that will basically make other countries economy fall

[feral river]

and about genocide, that's a contemporary concept, the people in the past really doesn't fucking care that

even I don't freaking care that because why would I care some people doesn't even have their own country ?

they don't fight for themselves they want to using compassion to use other people to fight for them ?

why ?

that's why I always say something about this when someone is selling compassion and those people really freaking deserve it.

[vestal grove]

im taking my time translating ur words so bare with me 😅

[feral river]

that's a good beginning anyways

[vestal grove]

ya i didnt really get what you mean

[feral river]

I mean the people who trying to justify their nation's history or something they do, selling compassion to convince other people, is always using some contempoary concept like genocide, ethnic cleaning to justify some nation's history is bad, worst or terrible, that's really freaking ridiculous.

[vestal grove]

when i see people making my country history looks more over exaggerating as in bad and not saying the real things that happened and making what ever we did was never done in history i wont just let it go and stay quite
im not justifying anything we did
just im not seeing it wrong nor a bigger deal
people keep talking about what we did and not seeing what their history is too
and i dont think anyone would not defend their history

[manic juniper]

Germans certainly do not

[warped herald]

[warped herald]

you are right

[vestal grove]

for example "they killed men" arent men the soldiers in the army
are supposed to tickle them to surrnder???
raping women????
our own war rules say not to touch women, children and elderly. i dont need to explain more

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from?

[vestal grove]

Bahrain 🇧🇭

[thorny steeple]

Oh ok, uncommon idk anything about the Bahrain history

I thought you were from germany

[vestal grove]

we are a small island in the middle east

its rare to see us on discord servers

[thorny steeple]

I know that but the history

[vestal grove]

our history is mostly related to other arab countries and the countries in the middle east like iran iraq ksa etc

its a small island in the end

and conqured way too many times in history

but this geographical area is thousands of years old

[thorny steeple]

So y'all are muslims

[vestal grove]

yes

our real population is only 750k

[thorny steeple]

Oh shit, that's so low

[vestal grove]

its an island after all 😂

70km long and 30km wide

[thorny steeple]

Ok it's like less than the smallest state in usa

[vestal grove]

but ofc our families are spread in the arab world

gcc countries are like our brothers

we all share the same traditions and history

and bloodlines

who do we kill?

nonesense

u englighten me

who do we kill

u didnt answer that

[shell lily]

Why are you obscuring the history, why don't you say what happened when prophet sent a letter to Khosro II, he tore the paper and sent two bulky guys to him to get him to Persia but he was murdered afterwards by his son, that king considered himself a god. And the prophet didn't even invade Persia at that time, it was during Caliphate which some Persian tribes tried to make some Muslims in the Arab area leave Islam. Persians and Muslims always had conflicts and it is still even in today's era, Persians conquered some Arab territories in the past like Iraq and Yemen..
Regarding raping I won't even discuss that because it's absurd. You know really well that it's prohibited yet you still talk about that so believe your resource you are free. Prophet prohibits raping for us but his troops raped women and Prophet didn't even talk about it that's absurd.

[vestal grove]

yes tell me who does that

or to who

broski their are countless incidents indians killing muslims

[vestal grove]

inidans are mass murdering muslims

[shell lily]

Bro for god's sake lets suppose this is correct
Do you think muslims are innocents? some Muslims do every thing literally, Plus Christians did worse than that they shipped millions of slaves to America and Europe. So I don't even why you're talking about that

[vestal grove]

911 was staged
bin laden wasnt even arab
he was an agent
the westerns are the ones who gave him power 😂

[manic juniper]

Why mention Christians here, it sounds like whataboutism

[vestal grove]

you dont even have a point

🤣

[manic juniper]

It's as if I am talking about a genocide that happened and someone else brought up the Holocaust for no reason

[vestal grove]

im an engneer and you made me laugh

bro indians here are also doing such things do u want me to send some stuff too?

insultiung our prophet

lol wont let that slide

[manic juniper]

What's no reason to kill someone 💀

[shell lily]

forget christians and lets suppose what u shared is correct
Are muslims immune to mistakes? some Muslims just have a label of being Muslim they practice nothing basically

[honest kestrel]

Hitler simply hated Jews and non-Aryans

[manic juniper]

He was talking about Arabs, not Muslims

[shell lily]

offffff
im done

[manic juniper]

There is a thread to talk about religion elsewhere

[vestal grove]

tell me what year do u want me to send that some indian murdered a person here?

why do u let that hurt you?
you dont believe in our beliefs.

[manic juniper]

He basically said "Yes Arabs did bad, but the British did worse" how is that an argument? Imagine if I killed someone and I was let go because I say "a mass shooter killed 50 people more"

[thorny steeple]

hi

[vestal grove]

https://arabic.cnn.com/middle-east/article/2023/11/30/saudi-execution-indian-yemeni

🤣 🤣

get out u got no point

[pearl rain]

Well, I'm not obscuring the history but I think even if he did know himself as a God, it wasn't their business to attack persia and kill a lot of people only to make them Muslim, Also why are you lying about the history, he was a zartosht and in Zoroastrianism, Ahura Mazdi who Muslims know as Allah is the God bro, so educat yourself first please. 🙏🏻
Also why did he send a invitation letter to him , why do Muslims want to make everyone Muslims and want to make everyone convinc that Islam is the only religion, Muslims better mind their own business tbh.
Also you're talking about Iraq and Yemen
So I'd better to mention that they weren't Arab countries not Muslims at first you you know so you can't say persians attacked Muslims first bro lol, The Islamization of Iran was the spread of Islam in formerly Sassanid Iran as a result of the Muslim conquest of the empire in 633–654, and Around the 7th century BC, the region of Persis in the southwestern portion of the Iranian plateau was settled by the Persians. From Persis, Cyrus rose and defeated the Median Empire as well as Lydia and the Neo-Babylonian Empire, marking the formal establishment of a new imperial polity under the Achaemenid dynasty and for your more information The empire spanned from the Balkans and Egypt in the west, West Asia as the base, the majority of Central Asia to the northeast, and parts of South Asia (the Indus Valley in what is present-day Pakistan) to the southeast which it used to be called Achaemenid Empire.

[shell lily]

if this is not an argument go to someone who is cut off for such matters and ask them. You are probably even debating a 12 year old child so never debate here if you really want to know

[formal pilot]

[manic juniper]

Are you saying you're 12? I don't get it

Besides you literally just did the same thing as him earlier, bringing up Christianity when I'm fully aware of it, since it happened in my country. Pointless.

[vestal grove]

bro get out i can send hundred more u just said u dont want to discus this

[pearl rain]

We're not saying that, we're just easily saying Islam is not a peaceful religion as Muslims believe in that, I myself thinks Christian are the same as well
But the funny thing about people who follow a religion is they think their religion is the best and the only right religion in the world.

Which is not, all are the same.

[shell lily]

why should they send letter? so they keep Islam for themselves lol
And most of the stuff you wrote I didn't get cuz they are in english so I didnt fully understand

[vestal grove]

why would you follow a relegion u think its wrong 💀

[shell lily]

so do you think somebody believes in something that isnt the best? why would even believe in that in the first place

[vestal grove]

so buddhism is wrong?

[manic juniper]

By being a pantheist or a deist

[manic juniper]

Because there could be perspectives you didn't consider and information you're missing

[pearl rain]

First, I don't follow any religion
Second that's the point, they all think their religion is the right and they fight for their nonsense beliefs
But I hate those who want to make everyone believe that their religion is right and they hardly try to convince people. They're so annoying fr.

[manic juniper]

Greeks thought their gods were better, but they also thought that the Egyptian gods were real

[mental mural]

m muslim, and sometimes people believe in something just because parents do. m not one of those.

[manic juniper]

Romans too believed other people's gods were real, and sometimes thought some were the same as the ones they worshipped since pre-republican times

[vestal grove]

supernatural figures

what does that make them

[pearl rain]

Look, you so believe in Islam and you think that Islam is the best and the only right religion, and other religions are absolutely wrong. right?
So the guy who's Christian has the same opinions, also the guy who's Buddhist and so on...

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gossip-listening-suspense-drama-gif-13117366258359790345

[shell lily]

whats wrong with that i dont get it?

[thorny steeple]

"For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: 2a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; 3a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; 4a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; 5a time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; 6a time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to throw away; 7a time to tear, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; 8a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace" (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8)

Read this guys

[silent arch]

Nice argument

[thorny steeple]

You see you cant take anyone serious if they have sigma on they profile

[mental mural]

if we had more than one god than this earth wouldn’t have any synchronism at all. there is only one resource and one god that everything is connected with him

[manic juniper]

That's not how pantheism works

[mental mural]

i believe that the earth is flat anyway so obviously it’s so easy for me to believe.

[silent arch]

😂

[manic juniper]

Divinity can't be quantified, saying it's one is just as narrow minded as saying they're more than one

[mental mural]

you ask him and he will show you. he is god of all messengers, and if anyone (and me) come and tell you we have one god, then we are all talking about the same one for me.

[silent arch]

Where is he?

[silver vault]

Friendly fire

[mental mural]

i love them because they know how to change their minds more then once and they can actually wake up😭

[mental mural]

everywhere every-time all at once

[silent arch]

This topic sucks anyway, let's talk about body positivity

[silver vault]

It's bs

[silent arch]

Why so?

[pearl rain]

You can read the history and realize how many times they killed eachother because of that
That makes wars and that make people hate eachother and stuff
I wish there was a religion named humanity fr.

[thorny steeple]

Fat people use body postivity when they dont want to work to lose the fat you see its not real

[vestal grove]

without wars people wont advance -hz

[silver vault]

Well I believe that promoting fat positivity could lead to normalization of obesity, and the whole movement was started by a man who had a thing for fat women anyway so...

[thorny steeple]

Are u fat @thorny steeple

[pearl rain]

So you mean Palestine is getting Advanced rn?
That's so nice lol.

[silent arch]

Wait really?

Who was it

[pearl rain]

[vestal grove]

yup alot

[errant moat]

Why no selfie

[vestal grove]

they have been kicking ahh and making weopens out of nothing
being able to resist for this long

[pearl rain]

Also Yemen?
Just look at their Countries before and after the war

[silent arch]

He's a peculiar guy..

[vestal grove]

yemen advanced alot in war now
they are suprising their enemies after every attack

also yemen always have civil wars

[silver vault]

@formal pilot

[vestal grove]

thats not new
its just now it reached the interenet

yemen without a civil war
that rarely happens

im half yemeni btw

[pearl rain]

To make him Muslim obviously
Yes if anyone wants to follow a religion he/she is free
But attacking and fighting them to make them Muslim or making them believe in any religion is insane tbh.

[thorny steeple]

Anyway, do you guys know how can I find natives

[silent arch]

Thank you for warning me about potential weirdos

[thorny steeple]

To master my english, in terms of speaking

[silver vault]

btw newslaundry's founder seems like a genuine lady, idk how her creation turned into what it is now

[vestal grove]

if you go back in history most technologies were created during war

[silent arch]

Why do you know about her😭

[pearl rain]

And you know a lot of kids were killed in those wars, right?
Is that okay if they attack your country or smth and the kill your beloved ones, do you still say yes because my country will get developed? LMAO

That's funny ngl

[silver vault]

https://youtu.be/k_pXSHsRJ8w?feature=shared

[vestal grove]

being against wars etc wont stop wars

[pearl rain]

Yes I didn't say that ofc

[vestal grove]

wars have always been humans history

[pearl rain]

But supporting wars is insane as well

Whenever you think it's a good thing to happen, first x just think about your family and beloved ones

[manic juniper]

It's good to support wars if they're in self defence and condemn the aggressors

[vestal grove]

so all we can do is look at the good side
no one can stop wars
no one like wars

all i said is wars what makes us advance

[pearl rain]

Self defense is okay and it's a very different topic ofc

[vestal grove]

dont twist my words pls

ty

[silent arch]

why's she kinda-

[silver vault]

She's like 50 yrs old 💀

[pearl rain]

@shell lily btw I think you talk to a sheikh then you reply to my messages

[pearl rain]

It doesn't make us advanced nor anything in a country but destroy everything such as economy, the education system and everything but it may make the military advanced which takes a lot of time fr

[vestal grove]

Technologically speaking, yes.

believe me if you only research what we humans invited during wars

[pearl rain]

unfortunately that's right, but if there weren't any war they would be useless which is impossible

[formal pilot]

Dude I'm gonna punch your eyes out of your nose

Stop spreading misinformations about me

[vestal grove]

gps?

etc

[formal pilot]

War acts like catalyst in technological advancements

Internet (ARPANET)Created by scientists working for the US Department of Defense

[grizzled trail]

Hey

[formal pilot]

Scientists accidentally created microwave oven while working on a project related to war

Hell na I'm not coming, i don't want brain rotting

They don't know any scientific terms in detail

They're only familiar with surface level information

They can't understand my point

Leave the VC

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-nothing-we-can-do-nothing-we-can-do-there-is-gif-17017334091191129728

[lavish geode]

Hi

[north wedge]

60*

[formal pilot]

Dude why are you dumb

[north wedge]

Lol

[formal pilot]

There's no point arguing with troll

I read 6 articles about HAPs

Just because of you

You're dumb like plastic chopping board

Sounds like my dead hamster

Blud roasted himself

It became like brick (not red one)

[dull valley]

HI i am new

[north wedge]

old days when newslaundry confronted him on his bs https://youtu.be/JXNkIczlJJs?feature=shared and of course it's the same lady again, the smart one who left newslaundry

[formal pilot]

Do you have any pets?

[dull valley]

I am a kid but dont underestimate me im good at speaking english

I have a cat

[sudden glade]

i have something in my basement

[dull valley]

If anyone here is a kid they get kicked ? 😦

[formal pilot]

Stay away from minecraft_652#0000

[formal pilot]

That's laundry, you need to wash em, stop piling up

[dull valley]

Can anyone be friends with me?

[sudden glade]

hello i can be your friend

[dull valley]

yay

[sudden glade]

only if..

[formal pilot]

I'll be your friend

[dull valley]

yay

add me

[formal pilot]

@thorny steeple you should get millipedes they're intresting creature

[dull valley]

can you be my friend?

[formal pilot]

Even cockroaches??

[sudden glade]

I have a few Lactobacillus acidophilus if that may interest you.

[dull valley]

do you like ants ?

[silver vault]

What's Karan doing there lol

[formal pilot]

Daymmm they're the definition of survival of the fittest

[sudden glade]

Grapes are good fruit
Grapes is good fruit
which sentense is correct?

[dull valley]

How are you scared of ants 💀

Grapes are good fruit

Grapes is plural

so are is similar to it

[sudden glade]

a single one would be called grape?

[dull valley]

Yup

[formal pilot]

Grape

[dull valley]

And Grapes are good fruit

[formal pilot]

[sudden glade]

cool

[dull valley]

OK let me ask a question

[formal pilot]

Have you ever tried big grapes with big seeds?

[dull valley]

preposition

[sudden glade]

link your one of the recent fav yt video

[valid raven]

serious chat

ello

[north wedge]

Getting bashed on from the left right n center, apparently he was writing articles that were unfair and kinda impartial

[sudden glade]

ello

[formal pilot]

Might be Japanese

[dull valley]

The women is walking ______ the road

[sudden glade]

I only eat human friendly fruits 💀

[silver vault]

Just seems like an unreasonable leftist

[dull valley]

Fill the preposition

[sudden glade]

through

[formal pilot]

Ola

[dull valley]

yup

it can also be on

[sudden glade]

?def parthenocarpic

[cursive bobcat]

Word: parthenocarpic

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by atamakahere

[formal pilot]

I mean it can be, I've tried seedless grapes

[dull valley]

i know the longest word

it is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[formal pilot]

Dayamm

[sudden glade]

?def pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[dull valley]

10

[cursive bobcat]

Word: pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by atamakahere

[north wedge]

Thought you would relate to him

[dull valley]

Im 10 But im Very smart

[sudden glade]

im 7

[formal pilot]

We need parthenocarpic watermelons

[sudden glade]

we are same same but difflent

[dull valley]

some digits of pi are 3.1415926535

[silver vault]

uh no, I'm pretty inclusive

[sudden glade]

bananas reached this point ig

[formal pilot]

8979348

[dull valley]

yup

[sudden glade]

lol so real

[dull valley]

bros the opposite of that

[sudden glade]

<><<><><>>><><><<>>

[formal pilot]

Yeah they're officially geh

[dull valley]

who is indian.kon.kon.indian?

[sudden glade]

i am from burma

[formal pilot]

Have you tried pink banana??

[dull valley]

Hey @sudden glade lets be friends

[formal pilot]

I'm talking about fruit

[manic juniper]

F

[sudden glade]

just to be sure, im a boy

[dull valley]

im a boy also bro

[dull valley]

WHY THE FREAK YOU SAID THAT

[sudden glade]

fine then, most people have false idea that im a girl

[dull valley]

ADD ME

[sudden glade]

[sudden glade]

I have only tried pink ..

[dull valley]

Why the thing of the freak of the tongue twister?

[sudden glade]

guava

whats with the dosts ayyy

[dull valley]

Who plays roblox and efootball

[sudden glade]

not me

[dull valley]

noone plays roblox ig

[sudden glade]

I play valorant and with my life

[formal pilot]

Checking internet connection

[sudden glade]

oh these, yes, I have been to andaman islands, there I have tried

[covert spear]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-gif-4962055692262347868

[sudden glade]

and also banglore

[covert spear]

tryna revive begginer chat

[sudden glade]

salam brother

[covert spear]

salam alicom

[sudden glade]

alicom? what company is that

[formal pilot]

Ali dot com

[sudden glade]

alyekum

[sudden glade]

real

[dull valley]

afk waiy

[sudden glade]

Why there no bhojpuri in #1006555275152588901 ?

[north wedge]

Chat would be filled with slurs

[sudden glade]

lol

[formal pilot]

They don't have time to use discord

[sudden glade]

busy developing india

[formal pilot]

Might be building roads in tamilnadu

[dull valley]

back

[formal pilot]

Yk bhojpuri??

[dull valley]

YES

[sudden glade]

dont say it dont say it kaisan.baru.ho?

[formal pilot]

Dayaaammm

[sudden glade]

oh cool, which dialect? i mean which city or place is your origin?

[dull valley]

bro i smell smth BRO THE GAS IS LEAKING 💀

[sudden glade]

ah fine (siwan jn. preobably)

[sudden glade]

turn on the lights and check

[formal pilot]

But you can speak English, maths isn't mathing, I've heard bhojpuris can't speak English

[dull valley]

OK I TURNED OFF IT

[sudden glade]

i am bihari

[formal pilot]

It's a city

[north wedge]

How's life in slums?

[formal pilot]

You shouldn't have said that

[sudden glade]

good, just picked up my food from sewer

[north wedge]

Lmaoo