🧠｜serious-chat

[formal scaffold]

both

I used the word controlled in the second one tho as a necessity

[hot bison]

Are you messaging from jail?😂

[formal scaffold]

How did you know? 😦

[hot bison]

Not having your weapon concealed and disturbing peace which I believe the west calls disorderly conduct does have a penalty😂. So you can't fight in that terms every day. Unless you are fighting in jail which leads you to a solitary confinement😂. So in that term it has flaws

The second one is complex. I agree with it to some extent.

Of course sometimes war can help development. An iconic one is the crusades. But still. Once again. In today's society many of the youth are not willing to enter a conflict for the interest of other or even worst. The government.

[formal scaffold]

you can also say that being in a state of none conflict, not developing weaponry for ages, wil weaken us if any external non human invasion occur ( not saying I believe in that but it's a possibility)

[feral river]

They are struggling to make it work properly and as we know this process is accelerating.

The state of Israel will never gave up for doing that if there is a continuous threat to their state.

Actually there is no any state will gave up their living space and security for some of people who even threatened them

Unless, they were forced to doing that.

[misty moat]

i think that France and the State should not get involded in the war

they only make worse

[thorny steeple]

Why extinction?

[formal scaffold]

they make profits or else they wuoldn't be there who's going to stop them?

[misty moat]

Nobody unfortunately WE live in a shitty world

[formal pilot]

States is the biggest war profiteer, it's impossible for them to not get involved

https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/

Since 2002, the United States has sold more than $197 billion worth of major conventional weapons

[harsh spade]

Couldn't agree more, USA's economy is highly dependent on war

[harsh spade]

Mention the source

[formal pilot]

Done

[thorny steeple]

Did you know that Israel was never victorious in this conflict. Since Hamas launched its attack on Oct the 7th, Israel began its string of losses.
Here is a list of only few losses Israel is still suffering from:

1. 2500 Israeli killed for the first time in the short history of Israel's existence.
2. The tragedy of Israeli civilians mostly being killed by Israeli armed forces (by invoking the Hannibal directive).
3. The abduction of senior ranks in the IDF.
4. Half a million Israeli settlers removed for the first time.
5. The overthrow of the alleged invincible army title, and showing how weak and fragile it was.
6. Damaging the facade of Israeli dominance and advancement.
7. The overthrow of the western alleged concern for humanity.
8. Exposing the double-standard of the western media.
9. Creating a crack within the Israeli society.
10. The inability to eradicate Hamas which was the stated aim.
11. Exposing themselves as outright liars and hypocrites.

Those are merely few of a long list of defeats. On the other hand, carpet bombing Gaza and the killing of innocent civilians for the Palestinians is a martyrdom, and for any Muslim, it's a win not a loss, and therefore they're pretty much invincible and immune to any kind of defeat, even if you would to wipe them all, it's too late, the vast majority of the world have already become Palestinian, many people now are aware of the Israeli crimes which will never be erased from history InshaAllah.

Fun fact, did you know that China is also on the side of the Palestinians, not only did they vote for ceasefire in the international court of justice, they also acknowledged the crimes of Israel and opposed it with a strong tone.
I think it's safe to say that Chinese who take the side of Israel are minorities and mostly against what their government side with.

[misty moat]

In all cases, civilians are the victims.

[formal pilot]

Exactly

[thorny steeple]

Hard to argue with that, I agree.

[formal pilot]

Well china is against strong USA allies

[misty moat]

and we can't change that, the governments are sitting in the warmth of their homes. that's why I say we live in a shitty world

[formal pilot]

It's not like they're with Palestine

[misty moat]

thhanks

[formal pilot]

But at the end it's good for Palestine

[thorny steeple]

I think most of the time they are, yes.

[misty moat]

PARDON there are thousands of deaths

[thorny steeple]

Well, we can't confirm or deny that, but you may be right though.

[misty moat]

WHO

[thorny steeple]

Mostly defenseless women and children.

[misty moat]

It's true but there are thhousands of deaths

[thorny steeple]

I believe it might be the biggest crime in human history where the world simply watches in silence.

[misty moat]

you're right

but what can do you

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, China might really be always pursuing their best interest regardless of others.

[misty moat]

I think not

[thorny steeple]

One defeat which I didn't mention in the list above is that, the Israeli and western media, despite their best attempts to spread lies and propaganda, have also lost and were exposed.
I'm proud to proclaim that I was a participant in revealing some lies they tried to spread, you might find some of my contributions here in this channel, but I also was active in other places.

[misty moat]

ok thank but who believes their bullshit

[thorny steeple]

Quite a lot, especially in the beginning of this conflict.

Luckily, Alhamdulillah the majority of the world now became aware of it.

[misty moat]

thank god

[thorny steeple]

Which lie exactly you are talking about? You mean the title NYT published and said that Israel has attacked a hospital and killed 500 people but after week they found out it was not true?!:)
Now who lies? Israel or Palestine?

[misty moat]

tthe two

i think

nobody said the true

saw

[thorny steeple]

You might find a lot scenes like this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-qFjvvK5eOE

[misty moat]

all the media of world lie

[thorny steeple]

some of them being directly in front of US government officials.

[misty moat]

mayybe i think not

[thorny steeple]

Actually media all around the world was just saying that Israel has cut off the electricity and gas in Palestine and millions of people are in danger!! The thing that media didn't mention and most people didn't realize was this: Israel said that release our hostages and you'll have gas and electricity!!! So my question is this.. why nobody is mentioning these in media?!!! And everyone is acting like that the only innocent people in this war is Palestinians!!

[thorny steeple]

I'm not sure what you're talking about, Israel up until now has bombed the majority of the hospitals in Gaza strip, over 3,000 Palestinian have been killed 'till now, I've covered some of those crimes in this channel so I can point you to them.
Few examples of the Israeli lies I'm talking about are the Arabic calendar being a list of Hamas militants' names, and the Hamas tunnel under a hospital which turned out to be the elevator hoistway.

Those were lies directly made by Israeli government officials.

[thorny steeple]

So you mean that Hamas didn't kill anyyyyyy citizens in Israel?

They were not made by western media.

[thorny steeple]

Never said that.

[thorny steeple]

Bro this is a war if you kill a citizen your enemy will kill your citizens and in this year who started the war? Israel or Palestine?

If they did intentionally killed innocent civilians, I condemn them for that.
We actually have Israeli testimonies that the IDF targeted civilians during the conflict in Oct the 7th.
https://youtu.be/OeiCDBtTd2c?si=205g7luq56Awixnt

[thorny steeple]

Who started, the occupation or the indigenous people? 🤔
I think it might be the occupation or something.

We can't just start the story from the middle.

[thorny steeple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uJjUVgspH7Q?si=VtqtPuhuIz0j_4Lf

Directly in front of Biden.

[sonic terrace]

People were getting arrested and murdered by the IDF since 1948 🗿
@thorny steeple bro needs a software update

[sonic terrace]

In THIS YEAR????
It's been like that for SEVENTY YEARS BRO
Israel did what's worse than the Na_zis did

[hot bison]

Quite idealistic. But not realistic.

[thorny steeple]

yep sorry for Palestinians

[sonic terrace]

Israel isn't a country, it's an organisation built on terrorism

Nazism to be clear*

Because they think they're God's chosen people

That's racist , Na_zi Mindset

[thorny steeple]

Yes, they were also getting killed for peaceful protests and marches.
I wonder what were they thinking protesting and marching against a terrorist regime. 🤔

[misty moat]

ok you go far

[thorny steeple]

cuz we made them to think that way

[sonic terrace]

straight up facts
Don't ask me, ask the numbers and statics

[formal scaffold]

it's more realistic if we talk about nations or countries 🙂

[misty moat]

ok i will inquire

[austere fiber]

hey guys whats ur fav country in the world

[sonic terrace]

Every time you accuse them of genocide they be yapping and crying about what happened in WW2
A friendly reminder that Adolf H#### didn't only do weird shit to Jews, but to anyone who isn't an Aryan
In what way exactly are Palestine blamed for that??!?

[misty moat]

France my country although it has quite a few flaws

[thorny steeple]

I used to like Lebanon and Syria, but later discovered that they got really bad.
I'm not sure now what my favorite country would be.

[austere fiber]

my fav country is australia

[sonic terrace]

I really can't decide, too many good places lol

[thorny steeple]

The USA

[austere fiber]

oh i dont know that lebanon and syria are bad can u explain why lebanon and syria are bad pls

[misty moat]

i think not

[thorny steeple]

Internal coflicts.

[misty moat]

do you live in america

[austere fiber]

oh ok

where r u guys from

i'm from Vietnam

[sonic terrace]

In Asia , I'd visit Japan
In Europe, I'd visit Switzerland/Italy

[thorny steeple]

unfortunately no

[sonic terrace]

Mhm

[hot bison]

Cleansing of the population. 100% they have tried to conceal this act in the past so less people tend to notice it. Now they try to find reasons to justify it. Palestine occupants are one of the most hated in the world. There is a reason for that. Mohamad Reza pahlavi (the person in my pfp) God bless his soul before 1979 once Said that jews are manipulating the media before his removal. This was way before it was noticed at the modern times. And now that we witness the truth we understand more. They have tried this before; hence it is nothing new.

[misty moat]

ah sorry

[sonic terrace]

🇵🇸

[austere fiber]

u from palestine right

[sonic terrace]

Exactly , the only solution with the Israeli army so to declare war against them
The other Jews who weren't in the army can either stay under the name of Palestine,or go back where they came from, mostly Europeans

[misty moat]

i didn't think that

[sonic terrace]

yeah

[austere fiber]

FREE PALESTINE!!!

[sonic terrace]

🫂

[lavish creek]

oh. israel-palestane debate

again

[austere fiber]

YEAH I SUPPORT PALESTINE. I SUPPORT PALESTINE AGAINST ISRAEL

[misty moat]

you're right

[sonic terrace]

Yeeee buddyyy🗣️

[thorny steeple]

And thus I find it very ironic when a pro-Israel accuses me or any person trying to spread awareness of being indoctrinated or brainwashed.

[formal scaffold]

got something better? I'm willing to join u in it

[sonic terrace]

DEATH TO THE IDF AND THE MOSAD

[misty moat]

always until it ends

[austere fiber]

lets condemn isnotreal!!

[hot bison]

I fully respect the jews who understand that these occupants have caused nothing but more harm to people and join muslim protestors. Indeed it is not the eyes that are blind but heart.

[misty moat]

it's what idf

[formal scaffold]

let's be honest the jews are smarter that's why they won, we are not united to threaten them let alone win

[lavish creek]

donno mate, ofc I am not supporter of killing babies, but i do belive, that when we are criticise Israel, we shall criticise Israel's neighbors 100x more

[sonic terrace]

We recognize
[ 🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 ]
As Terrorist organisations.

Because they are

[thorny steeple]

who is that person in ur profile?

[formal scaffold]

where u got that knowledge from?

[sonic terrace]

"Israel defense force" the ones who are attacking Gaza

[sonic terrace]

Iran 🇮🇷

[austere fiber]

Israel is slaughtering babies, even unborn babies

ALL EYES ON RAFAH

[hot bison]

I hate radicalism. It's not in human nature to tend to violence. But some people are deprived from the simplest form of perception. By the ones in charge.

[misty moat]

you're right even we European people know it but at the moment we have a lot of problems so it hides what is hidden between Israel and Palestin

[sonic terrace]

Fair to say that Zionism is pure Nazism

[lavish creek]

from books amd documents mate. For example here: https://web.archive.org/web/20081001152022/http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/special_report/48.pdf

And jewish people are one of the most educated people of the whole world. If I was arab, i wold be glad that i could bring my child to the jew doctor

[thorny steeple]

oh thanks

[sonic terrace]

They control media, therefore it's way easier to control alot of people's opinions
The Rothschilds for example, they own the CNN
(The Rothschilds are the ones who contributed in creating what you call Israel)

[austere fiber]

the fact Israel is a genocide

[formal scaffold]

blud even piers morgan agrees that 9/11 was a play to justify invading iraq for oil

[hot bison]

Shah of Iran.

[thorny steeple]

Isn't that Abu Obaida, the spokesman of Al-Qassam Brigades? This man is a legend. 💯 🗿

[austere fiber]

idk why McDonald's supports genocide israel

[sonic terrace]

Yeah that's Abu Obaida in ny pfp الملثم

[thorny steeple]

thanks

[formal scaffold]

if we talk about intolerance I can go about how ghandi slept witha virgin underage each night to train his "sexual resitance", or the fact that asian monks has no life and aren't allow to marry, or the fact that most indians have arranged marriages that are prohibited by islam, it's all about perspectives you know

[sonic terrace]

BlackRock, they're the biggest shareholders in the biggeat world wide known Companies
The owner/ the founder of that devil company remains unknown
That man for sure is a jew, supporting israel

[austere fiber]

maybe that man is a jew or even an Israeli

[vernal current]

Monks go through a path of transcendence like they literally removing their earthly desire to have this enlightenment or something

[sonic terrace]

He's an elite
And I'm 100% sure he's Jewish , just like the owners of the mainstream media

[sonic terrace]

bro nuked the argument 👌

[austere fiber]

but hey can i ask this question, are u still in Rafah or in another country

[formal scaffold]

I'm no here to judge them but blud was criticizing saudi policies, each culture or country or relegion has it's own practices, if you are willing to judge on be prepared to be judged

[hot bison]

one word. benefits.

[austere fiber]

oh yeah benefits

[vernal current]

Who

[formal scaffold]

@lavish creek

[austere fiber]

all my friends support Palestine

[sonic terrace]

Quite Unfortunately, I wasn't born in Palestine

[hot bison]

Do they believe in god? Or just some spiritual energy?

[austere fiber]

I used to support Israel but now i support palestine

[hot bison]

Or they worship idols?

[vernal current]

Some monks like in india

[sonic terrace]

De-brainwashed people fr

[austere fiber]

oh

[austere fiber]

yeah de-brainwashed fr

[sonic terrace]

W

[vernal current]

Ye

[austere fiber]

thanks

[hot bison]

Alright.

[formal scaffold]

he was being selective and targeted out Saudi, I respect all other cultures as long as he respect mine, it's all relative i can never know much about ur culture to pull a quick judgment on it but i did pull a quick judgment on him so that he feel what he did to me got it?

[sonic terrace]

Thanks you bud 🫂

[hot bison]

Be an individual thinker.

[vernal current]

yeye

i have no clue about whats going on about the current events

[austere fiber]

so what ur opinion about Palestine and Israel. What country do u support

[vernal current]

Who do i like begin to know them

[formal scaffold]

politics are just selfish policies, every country for its own, but some civilians want peace some civilians take parts and sides

[vernal current]

Do i just read a bunch of news or something

[formal scaffold]

what I do for more literacy is wait before pulling a judgment, see the benifector or the consequences of the war/conflict to know best

[hot bison]

I support whoever i believe is right. And since I as a common person have no correct details I refuse to judge. But I love my muslim brothers so if they boycott. I will.

[sonic terrace]

nah bro u mocking me for that 💀

[formal scaffold]

you don't have really to partake a side, just initially be against war and violence

[austere fiber]

so u mean that u support palestine right

[formal scaffold]

I've been watching palestine crimes since i was a kid so i know what side should I pick now

[vernal current]

I see

[sonic terrace]

Thinking and a bit researching will make you quite sure that Israel is a terrorists organisation

[hot bison]

Why would you want to be born in such a place. I get the hype. But really you don't want to.

[sonic terrace]

You mean a place where there's an occupation ?

[hot bison]

Constant chaos. Everyone deserves a well prosperous life. I'm not an expert on psychology. But you are saying this as an adult. Who knows what bad traumas you could have received as a child living there. Imagine the poor children there now. Who could have thought they could become orphan after this event. Hearth breaking but it is the truth. And it makes my soul shiver as I think of it more....

[hot bison]

I don't research which is my fault. But I am loyal to my religion.

[sonic terrace]

i see,
I wish i was born there not because i crave hunger and chaos, but because my chances of being able to fight those na_zis are much higher than being outside of Palestine

May Allah grant me the chance to kick them out myself

[sonic terrace]

Enough, seeing you saying "I'm loyal to my religion" itself is enough.

[austere fiber]

how many reasons can persuade people to support nazi genocide apartheid Israel? : 0

[hot bison]

Maybe you are brave. Or maybe too naive to see what the war does to people. I've seen many war veterans. Generally; war destroys people's wealth and soul.

[hot bison]

Don't allow your emotions to take over. Ponder. And it will grant you wise decisions in whatever matter.

[cerulean ore]

isn't it crazy how there's not even one single law in the Israeli constitution which isn't the same for Arabs and Israelis (except law of return) and yet it's an apartheid state?

[austere fiber]

So now u r againist me cuz i support palestine

[hot bison]

Don't get me wrong. I don't express an opinion in this matter. As perviously told. I am loyal to my religion. But I'm anti war. The war after shah left was brutal. Many of us (Iran iraq) unlived one another and faced each other's demise. Only to realize it was worthless. So my balance changes when people talk about war. I see the horor through it. Specially if you don't know... if you are truly righteous.

[sonic terrace]

Open "Aljazeera" at this moment and see exactly why i said that

[cerulean ore]

What?

[thorny steeple]

what do u think neta ji is alive or die after that plane crash?

[cerulean ore]

Bro how did you come to that conclusion after reading my statement 💀?

[hot bison]

Then you are brave.

[hot bison]

No idea who that is

[thorny steeple]

I'm not familiar with the Israeli's laws, but it doesn't matter if they set a law that they don't follow, such as detaining Palestinians with no charges:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67600015
https://apnews.com/article/israel-detention-jails-palestinians-west-bank-793a3b2a1ce8439d08756da8c63e5435

[thorny steeple]

sorry nothing dear

[thorny steeple]

Of course, this is merely an example of many other instances that demonstrate how Israel is an apartheid regime.

[sonic terrace]

So sorry that Iranians and Iraqis had to go through that shit
ofc The ones I'm talking about killing are the military, although even the civilians mostly aren't born there, and in fact each one of them is racist asf, but still, I'm not allowed to kill anyone of them , either make them go back to where they came from , or make them live under the name of Palestine
And i prefer the first choice because they're racist asf

[hot bison]

Isreal just like the China legislates discriminatory laws. So it doesn't matter in what quality its implemented.

[hot bison]

Thank you❤️.

You can't control people's behavior. But most of the people can change. A long process indeed.

[lavish creek]

mate we are spealing about Israel and Arab world, aren't we?

[formal scaffold]

Did u check the book you sent?

[lavish creek]

I sent it like an example

[formal scaffold]

I replied to the link i dont remember limiting the topic i remeber u didnt wanna talk about the conflict

[formal scaffold]

Example that targets Islam

[lavish creek]

my point is that I am non I big fan of Israel politic like apartheid and settlers, but, again, it is literally only one country in the region with working democracy, rule of law and etc

[formal scaffold]

It'll be ironic to call that barbarian or inhuman without including thz other part u compare too, its yr culture + the jews's

[lavish creek]

don't let words harm your fealings so easyly

[formal scaffold]

Likewise fam

[lavish creek]

I am not

[formal scaffold]

U replied

I replied

Why u include feelings in

I spoke about irony in here

[lavish creek]

what kind of irony

[formal scaffold]

Lol

Everything is relative yes or no?

[lavish creek]

no

there are objective true

[formal scaffold]

State yr case

u are talking about social normes ?

[lavish creek]

including them, yes

[formal scaffold]

So u think social normes are not subjective?

[lavish creek]

there are some inner enternal true and some for period of time

[formal scaffold]

Even tho they change from time to time and from place to place

[lavish creek]

can't you read

[formal scaffold]

Unifying social normes started greatly after ww2 by the culture that won and took over

[lavish creek]

you are metamodernist mate, you have to help yourself at that matter

[formal scaffold]

Gg u won the argument

👏🏾

[feral river]

The victorious can be committed by different sight, if you think who has the most death count is losing, then Japanese Empire, Nazi Germany will be the biggest winner 🤣

[feral river]

Don’t you notice you take it way too far ? We are literally not siding with anyone we are doing our business we have Israeli investment in China and we need Palestine to balance west power in Middle East

I just think I’m talking the truth, I would be neutral in this part, about Chinese government, I think I’m not a government official.

[feral river]

If you are committing something has conflict as truth, and ignoring the other side of explanation, that’s literally double standard and even spreading influence.

That’s why we always have a problem here, because you think you are right and you want to enforce your idea, use your standard to regulate others to say other who don’t like your opinion is immoral, ignorant and arrogant. But it will NOT happen because this is NOT the place to spread influence.

The truth will never change, no matter how you explain it, how you justify it, it was there and it will never change.

Of course if you like this way, I can treat you as the same way you do, it’s easy.

“When you are a loser, you call for moral, freedom, equality, when you are the winner, you call for rule, power, and justice.”

Actually, those factors all pointless, only one thing you need to confirm and the other thing is truth which is, who is winner ? and what you say is literally for your interest.

“History is written by winner”

[manic juniper]

Vikings barely wrote anything about their countless victories

[feral river]

There is a lot of war that both sides committed they won 🤣

They don’t wanna lose their face💀

But the truth of losing will not change by their tone.

“Regime is established by guns” - Mao Zedong

[manic juniper]

The Vietnam War was also written by the losers for the most part

[feral river]

Because they are not completely losing ? At least they didn’t get annexed.

I didn’t see there is an official history writer of Nazis and Soviets.

[manic juniper]

?

The Soviets had their own version of history

It's used to this day in the Russian Federation, they call events by different names like Great Patriotic War

[feral river]

Well that’s how Russian Federation using Soviet history as their own’s

Just like in China we even consider Mongol Empire as part of Chinese Empire.

Actually they all completely different but that was adopted.

Even Japan have their own history system

I would say history is good weapon.

[misty moat]

i never hear their veersion

[feral river]

You can try google and know it.

[misty moat]

ok i will trry

[feral river]

I only know a little bit like they are liberating the whole East Asia, and they tried to establish Great East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere for East Asian.

Just like Nazi germany says they are the accelerating the evolution of humanity.

[misty moat]

it's true can i have the source please

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_East_Asia_Co-Prosperity_Sphere?wprov=sfti1

[manic juniper]

Nazis didn't say that, they wanted to exterminate and enslave the other races

[misty moat]

thanks

[feral river]

They literally using that theory justifies their actions of exterminate of the other races.

[hot bison]

World of interests. I wouldn't believe that the chinese government is morally superior.

[misty moat]

they didn't want to exterminate to other races, only jews, black

[manic juniper]

Hitler wasn't hiding his intentions at all, that's just silly

[main bison]

Long live Japan

Nihon banazai

[manic juniper]

They wanted to exterminate Slavs too, and had race hierarchies. For example "Latin races" (Italians and Romanians) were considered inferior, there were even hierarchies in the Germanic race

They considered Sudetenland Germanics to be inferior to Nordic Germanics

[feral river]

If you are known about Nazi Germany, but they indeed do that, Nazi is powerful in that day and they have been successful for a while, their research, culture and history is all being used for justifying their expansion.

[misty moat]

yes inferior they didn't want to exterminate all the races

[feral river]

Tainoheka, Banzai!

[manic juniper]

Do you even know that Poles were mass killed alongside Jews in Auschwitz?

[misty moat]

no i didn't

[feral river]

Well they did, anyways no matter their intentions was doing that or not but they did that and they killed a lot of people .

[misty moat]

i know

[feral river]

Well I would say, we all have our government work for our people.

[manic juniper]

But they didn't try to hide their intentions lol that's just silly, Hitler always blamed the Jews, always hated Slavs and demonised them, he made statements even about his allies such as Italians and Romanians being an inferior kind of Caucasian compared to Germans

[feral river]

I don’t think there is anyone like a government work for another group of people

[onyx hazel]

U.S, as always, threatening and defaming China as they always do, because China is the 2nd largest economy in the world, and the U.S doesn't like competitors. An example of this was when Japan was the 2nd largest economy in the world, and the U.S started to stop helping the country, which they themselves helped grow some time ago. So if China surpasses the U.S, they'll go crazy.

[misty moat]

which government

[feral river]

Because he justified the Jew is bad, it’s a bad race scientifically, and they all doing bad they all living good and survived even suppressed German workers in great depression and surrendering of the German Empire.

Actually Nazi party is being elected

In democratic regime

[misty moat]

where

in Europe

or in america

[feral river]

Weimar Republic

Hitler was elected in Weimar Republic and he established third reich

[hot bison]

Governments must serve people. If yours is doing a good job then great🙂.

[misty moat]

it's where which continent

[feral river]

I think, if they work for most people, at least just not bad.

A government work for 90% of people

[manic juniper]

What about the other 10%

[feral river]

I think if a government only work for 50% of people, that would be terrible

[misty moat]

this is a chance

[misty moat]

moste gouvrenement works for 50 % people

[feral river]

No idea, we need to sacrifice some people‘s interests for ourselves.

[hot bison]

Chance?

[misty moat]

yes it is a chance becaus there are people who live under dictature

[manic juniper]

Why 10%

[feral river]

Because they are minor ? They have no power and they can be targeted and majority will allow them to do like ignoring the holocaust they created because that’s for them.

[hot bison]

If the government is not willing to support 100% of the population as its main and primary goal. and prioritizes some individuals above others. Then they can go fuck them self (Elon musk reference)

[feral river]

Well that’s your opinion then, but It may work not properly even more less people they serve if they care so much people.

Actually there is no any government could work for 100% of people.

[hot bison]

Exactly my point😂😂. So that's why I hate all the governments. No distinction.

[feral river]

Make sense, but may it getting worse if there is no government. Sadly

[hot bison]

100% but as I mentioned. Having the idea to care is sufficient

[hot bison]

True.

[misty moat]

aie

[feral river]

I just appreciate that I live in a nice condition and I have a lot of opportunities to do whatever I want to achieve my dream so, I guess I will defend my interests no matter what and I hope everything is fine everyone is having a good life ❤️

But reality is reality, this is serious.

The reality is someone will get hurt by someone’s interest

The reality is everyone has their differences and their own government calls allegiance and obedience to themselves, so everyone is selfish, just like me.

But we still established a nice world based on this reality, so I really appreciate.

[manic juniper]

Saying that is just an excuse to be selfish

[onyx hazel]

In fact, what Hitler did in World War II wasn't something new; several cases of genocide had already occurred before him. Two clear examples of this were European colonialism and the enslavement of Africans. Hitler, in fact, drew inspiration from these cases. However, Hitler's case is the most famous because he carried out these atrocities in Europe, targeting the colonizers themselves. That's why his case stands out the most.

[manic juniper]

The Jews and Poles were colonizers?

[onyx hazel]

And also, the British empire that killed over 100 million Indians
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-harry-spare-book-uk-royals-slavery-colonialism-slave-trade-reparations/

[lavish creek]

within 6 year?

[manic juniper]

Hitler took inspiration mostly from the American natives genocide and the Armenian genocide

[onyx hazel]

I'm not saying that everyone, person by person in Europe are colonizers, I'm talking about the colonization comitted by the empires as British Empire, Portuguese Empire, Spanish Empire, Ottoman Empire and etc

[lavish creek]

so what a hell are you talking about

per person it is Poland who suffered the most

like a nation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:text=World War II was the,the global population in 1940.

[onyx hazel]

Yes, I'm not saying that they didn't suffer wtf

[manic juniper]

He barely did any damage to UK or the British Empire at the start of his campaigns, he took Austria, then the first to really suffer was Czechia, then it was Poland (that suffered the most alongside Belarus)

[lavish creek]

"However, Hitler's case is the most famous because he carried out these atrocities in Europe, targeting the colonizers themselves"

and yes, colonialism =\\= genocide

[manic juniper]

The fuck did Poland colonize? Vilnius? Or its northern coasts that were occupied by Balts? That was also done by Germans many centuries prior. Barely has to do with WW2

[lavish creek]

and baltic states

per person*

[onyx hazel]

So, the colonizers didn't kill anyone?

[manic juniper]

It still doesn't make sense, he didn't target UK because it wasn't a good idea to attack one of the most powerful countries when they could sneak past them, and besides France and Russia (that was part of the USSR) what other colonial powers did they fight? The Ottoman Empire was gone so the Balkans were free, they were allied with Italy that wished to have a second round of colonies in Africa

[lavish creek]

genocide is about intention, not just killing.

[onyx hazel]

That's what they did

[lavish creek]

who they

there was different types of colonisation, even more, it is broad concept

[hot bison]

Correct. But hurting others by your own progress in justified. People's laziness to achieve something is their fault.

[onyx hazel]

I'm not talking about the Second World War, I'm talking about Hitler's actions and Nazi Germany during the war

[manic juniper]

I don't think there was any genocide here despite the colonisation

[manic juniper]

How are those related, there is no strong or direct link between them

Bad thing happens in Europe→colonial powers mad?
There were countless precedents, the war escalated because Hitler took on bigger countries upsetting the balance for other countries that felt threatened like UK

[lavish creek]

"Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilian fatalities) are estimated at 50–56 million, with an additional estimated 19–28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine." during 6 years

where else something like that happened give me a link

[formal pilot]

[lavish creek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

[lavish creek]

it is not true

[onyx hazel]

Why are you talking about Poland?

I'm listing the colonizing countries: Portuguese Empire, British Empire, Spanish Empire, Ottoman Empire, I'm not relating these countries to the Second World War. My point is: Hitler's and Nazi Germany's actions weren't something new. People are outraged by Hitler's actions, and they are completely right, but they forget how bad the colonizations of other countries were, that's my point.

[grave temple]

wdym its legit true

[onyx hazel]

We should condem Nazis and Colonizers

[grave temple]

His National Socialist German Workers' Party won most of the seats in the parlement

[grave temple]

no fudging hit

of course like thats a no brainer

[manic juniper]

Oh ok so it's just whataboutism, no, people are also disgusted by some of those but they're way less documented and some are way older to even have easily accessible records, the Armenian genocide was covered up as much as they could despite the insurmountable evidence of it happening

[formal pilot]

[onyx hazel]

I know, but for some people it seems like it isn't obvious

[grave temple]

💀

If you defend nazism, colonism, imperialism and the horrors each bought to our world, there's something wrong with you.

[onyx hazel]

?

I don't defend

[grave temple]

Either you didn't receive proper education or you just brainwashed and stupid

[grave temple]

people who defend

[formal pilot]

[onyx hazel]

Thanks for saying that, because I don't know you, but I see many "economists" saying that colonization was "beneficial", or "it wasn't that bad"

[grave temple]

Well they aren't wrong on the "beneficial" side

but its always the colonizers that benefit

[lament panther]

I am searching servers for language exchange. Like i will teach my mother tongue, other person teaches their own language

[grave temple]

because they exploit the ressources in the colonies without developping education, health care, economy etc...

[outer palm]

The idea of colonization has become so prevalent again. .-.
But that's just my experience

[grave temple]

Well what language you speak?

or languages

[grave temple]

True, but I hope after the decolonization of Africa and Asia, it doesn't happen again.

[outer palm]

What language(s) do you speak? I can teach you hungarian if you want. :)

[grave temple]

lmao

[outer palm]

Yes, I think it would be pointless

[lavish creek]

not absolut magurity even in the last election. but i am not about it. there was Hitler was elected -> third reich, which is not true, there was coup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_rise_to_power#Seizure_of_control_(1931–1933)

read the part of Enabling Act on 23 March 1933

[manic juniper]

Kurva anyád

[thorny steeple]

Agreed, I think the U.S may be suffering from delusions of grandeur.

[half pagoda]

Kurva bober

[formal scaffold]

hey are you up to discuss in VC?

[covert raptor]

Not coup, the people agreed to it. Then they went to war for his national socialist agenda.

[slender jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-kitty-hello-kitty-dance-reggaeton-gif-23736023

[feral river]

I would say they do for their own people, not you.

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1932_German_federal_election?wprov=sfti1

[sharp zinc]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3526810/

https://archive.org/details/adolf-hitler-the-greatest-story-never-told

"only the vector writes history"

or maybe:........ No More!

[gaunt bronze]

What's this

[gusty wyvern]

Hi

How are you

[gaunt bronze]

Im good! ty! how about you

[gusty wyvern]

Hmmm i just arrive to this server. I'm a beginer

I have A1 English

[austere fiber]

My level english is between A2-B1

[thorny steeple]

can u help me in english

[austere fiber]

What ur level englishh

[thorny steeple]

a3

[austere fiber]

Oh nice

[smoky rapids]

Me too.

[smoky rapids]

A3? It's existing?

[austere fiber]

nuh uh

[left tulip]

I am looking for a speaking partner for IELTS and CELPIP Exam

Please message me directly

[onyx hazel]

Sorry, I didn't understand

[feral river]

Well I mean they are colonizers as you said because that’s from your perspective, they are doing colonization for themselves, for their prosperity for their interest not your interest.

Why would they care your interest, either you are not the taxpayer or citizen of them ?

But it make sense if you want to justify it and unite your people to against them.

[onyx hazel]

It's not about my interest

[covert raptor]

China is undoubtedly the sleeping giant, soon to wake up. China doesn't believe in human Rights, ask the uyghurs

At least you are allowed to guilt trip the USA pointing to human rights as in their constitution or bill of rights

For China, you have nothing

[feral river]

we believe in Chinese characteristic Human Rights. 🤣

every religion must follow the CCP's leadership and the law of the People's Republic of China

[gusty wyvern]

No

[austere fiber]

Uyghurs and the Tibet people

[vernal mantle]

CSE/SE students in here?

[trim lotus]

i am.but im still learning.Any question you have？Maybe i can help you.

[shy gazelle]

Hello i am new here.

[weary dune]

Welcome

[shy gazelle]

Thanks.

[low pine]

I'm serious

[patent light]

Hi guys, I`m looking for someone to practice with, if sobebody is there, DM me!!!

[thorny steeple]

#what does the soul eat?

[strange coral]

before that, let's talk about what is soul itself in the first place?🤔

[thorny steeple]

love,hope, meaningful spiritual beliefs?

[thorny steeple]

yup

tbh,it depends more on the prospective we see it from

[gleaming phoenix]

[strange coral]

imo soul is what makes our body "alive" it that makes sense

[thorny steeple]

to someone who had lost everything,the meaning of life

their loved ones

may say" i gave them my heart and they took my soul"

[thorny steeple]

or the spirit inside of us

that's us US

what we r

the reason we are all human but so different

someone is too kind, someone is too cruel

someone is in love :🩷
someone lost their love💔 someone healing ❤️‍🩹

[silver vault]

brain and heart crying in the corner 😞

[thorny steeple]

and someone who feels like he doesn't even have a heart

sad

[silver vault]

Are we being philosophical here?

[strange coral]

can also be interpreted like this, the body is alive, the person is still doing their things, but at the end of the day their soul has "died"

[thorny steeple]

yup

[thorny steeple]

yeh

[strange coral]

not trying to discredit both respectfully

[strange coral]

yep

physical appearance may be one thing, but the soul itself is what making a human being different from another

[thorny steeple]

hmmm

[strange coral]

so based on that, what does soul consume?

[thorny steeple]

love,i think

cuz it can heal people and it gives people to live for something or someone

a hope*

love makes someone feel happiness

and the absence of it

, hatred

(though there are other prospectives too)

[strange coral]

interesting

[thorny steeple]

like,not obeying the rules

[strange coral]

what about categorizing all of that into one, emotions?

[thorny steeple]

people need to be disciplined for a happy life

[thorny steeple]

yeh yeh

gtg

baii baii

[strange coral]

yeah whether it is by others or by one self, discipline is paramount in life

[strange coral]

alright, it's nice getting serious once in a while

cya

[rare salmon]

@strange coral yoo how are you

[strange coral]

ayyy I'm great

hbu?

[rare salmon]

i'm great

[strange coral]

love to hear that!

[rare salmon]

hhh i saw you also in singing stage yesterday

[fair pier]

Hello everyone

[rare salmon]

hiii

[fair pier]

How are u

[rare salmon]

i'm great hbu

[compact onyx]

Hi. Is there any way of getting a mod in a room without sending a ticket?

[rare salmon]

don't know i'm new here

[fair pier]

Pretty good

Where are u from 🤔

[rare salmon]

i'm from india and u?

[fair pier]

I'm Palestinian

[rare salmon]

ooh that's great

[fair pier]

Thanks 👍🏻

[strange coral]

right haha

btw guys, you can head to beginner or general chats channel to converse

[rare salmon]

@silver vault wanna chatin here

[formal pilot]

Yo Muslim brothers
What's Shab-e-Barat (15th Shaban) ??

Is it something important?

[zenith tartan]

To be honest, I've been facing challenges when trying to engage with classic novels, such as those by Jane Austen, and other fictional works. While I generally have good comprehension skills, I struggle specifically with the writing styles found in works like "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland," the Harry Potter series, and novels like Percy Jackson.

Despite my ability to understand most English texts, I find myself unable to fully comprehend and connect with these specific genres. I'm not particularly obsessed with these works, but many of my friends are avid readers, often discussing and recommending these books. This leaves me feeling somewhat disheartened, realizing that I might be missing out on a crucial aspect of literature.

One issue I've identified is that I struggle to stay engaged with a book for an extended period. My attention and focus tend to wane over time. I acknowledge that my ultimate goal is to become a proficient reader and build a strong foundation in comprehension skills. However, the realization that I struggle to understand texts in certain genres, as mentioned earlier, is somewhat dispiriting.

I wonder why I face challenges comprehending specific writing styles, even when I intentionally read aloud. This discrepancy in understanding leaves me feeling a bit down, and I'm eager to find strategies or insights that might help me overcome these difficulties and enhance my overall reading experience.
Help required from a well learned person of this realm.

[thorny steeple]

I think you're overthinking it 🤷🏼‍♂️ People have different writing styles and different thinking processes, at a certain point it's not about understanding the language but understanding what the author is thinking. This is especially prominent with philosophers. I haven't read the works you listed, but maybe it's just a lack of experience with the respective writing style that's hindering you

[zenith tartan]

hmm, Thanks for replying.

where're you from?

[thorny steeple]

Serbia, though if you are asking because of the language, I speak and know English better than my native language 😆

[runic wyvern]

hy goob

[covert raptor]

hy cats

[runic wyvern]

hy egyptian alien

[covert raptor]

cats gay or nayy

[runic wyvern]

[covert raptor]

https://media.tenor.com/WxR6BpaPz6gAAAAM/gucciberg.gif

[runic wyvern]

[covert raptor]

where u from

[runic wyvern]

morocco

and u?

[covert raptor]

🫣

heaven country zimbabwe

[thorny steeple]

What are you doing here khti 😆

[runic wyvern]

just wanted to see 🤪

[thorny steeple]

So you aren't learning English 😔 ?

[runic wyvern]

I AM

[weary dune]

Lovely cats

[thorny steeple]

And how's that going

[runic wyvern]

i don't know? wouldn't really consider it "learning" , just practicing

[thorny steeple]

A okay makes sense, like most people for English I guess

Though personally for me, I only felt really at ease with English when I moved to an anglophone country

[formal pilot]

[meager trout]

I guess that's the last step to perfect your language, since everything will be in your target language to learn and you will be forced to read/speak/listen to it 24/7, which is pretty neat

[thorny steeple]

The middle of Shaban month was when Allah changed the Qibla (the direction in which we pray). The Qibla previously was towards Al-Aqsa Mosque (which is in Jerusalem), the prophet peace be upon him wished if the direction was towards the Kaaba which's why Allah revealed this verse in the Qur'an:

Indeed, We see you ˹O Prophet˺ turning your face towards heaven. Now We will make you turn towards a direction ˹of prayer˺ that will please you. So turn your face towards the Sacred Mosque ˹in Mecca˺—wherever you are, turn your faces towards it... [2:144]
Now, there are Hadiths about the importance of the middle of Shaban month which are graded "Da'eef" (weak) and sometimes "Maudo'" (fabricated), so the day itself has a historical importance, but one should not single it out with certain worships, as there is no evidence for that, yet the day itself happens to be in Shaban which is a great month for various types of worships such as fasting and night prayers, so the day is at the same level of importance as the other days of the month.

[thorny steeple]

I mean you can in theory perfect your language witnout moving, but yeah I think for most people it really happens only when they do

[formal scaffold]

anything that the prophet (pbuh) didn't celebrate we shouldn't celebrate in a relegious context, ex: the prophet's birth

[formal pilot]

Some asian Muslim think it's similar to lailatul qadr (they're completely wrong)

[meager trout]

I'm not saying it's mandatory, you can achieve a really good grasp of the language without moving, the thing is that being surrounded by the language you want to learn 24/7 and not being in need to speak your native tongue sands down the imperfections that you may have, it's really good to give it the final touch to reach a native accent

[thorny steeple]

Tbh even after years I don't have a native accent and I think I never will. But personally I consider it a good thing, because it will always be a free discussion topic wherever talking with someone for the first time, a small accent can be a part of your identity hehe. Ofc, I think a big accent would be more problematic

[meager trout]

Everyone has an accent if you will look at it that way, which isn't neither bad or good, it's just how it is, but it surely narrows down misspellings, grammatical mistakes, and sometimes taking too much time to reply because you're either thinking, oh this isn't the correct way of saying x or you just can't think fast enough

Anyway, moving out is a faster way to achieve fluency imo, it will make you learn by force

[thorny steeple]

Well, just ask him what valid evidence you have, we only take our Islamic knowledge from Qur'an, Sunnah, and the Salaf (meaning the prophet peace be upon him, the companions, the tab'een etc...), you'll find that he will either try to rationalize it, or use unauthentic Hadiths or invalid proofs.

[thorny steeple]

World Structure

[grave temple]

damn

just escape the matrix ig

[feral river]

again ? 🤣

[feral river]

I like this one.

[gaunt bronze]

This is too funny

I’m dying rn 💅😭

[grave temple]

😂

[lavish creek]

did you read the one i sent before?

[fair pier]

This is sooo bad

[thorny steeple]

Woa woa what is happening here

[feral river]

yeah I see there is several coup attempts during hitler came to power but he finally succeeded with majority of people as his supporters

[feral river]

Just not that bad we almost all accepted aren’t we ?

[fair pier]

By Islam no

[fair pier]

TheThe peaceful religion equates everyone

[feral river]

LOL

Sunni, Shia, extremist, capitalist, etc….

I assume you are saying Islam itself not Islam rule.

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

What's the difference between the two?

[waxen marsh]

idk

[thorny steeple]

Some people be like:
Believe the religion of justice which teaches you what is life? No!!
Believe a picture made by some random conspiracy theorist on the internet without even questioning its validity? Yes!!

It's so messed up.

Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam.

[vapid hare]

May I ask what this picture is that you're referring to?

[formal scaffold]

They fail to believe i god bc they want to limit him to their tiny human brain that they can use only less than 10% of, they try to limit him within concepts even tho he created concepts

[brave moss]

What are your religion? im atheist

[formal scaffold]

Im muslim, question do u need a solid proof of god to act or just enough hints?

[brave moss]

do you have solid proof?

[formal scaffold]

There's none

For now for humans

[brave moss]

its all hearsay

[formal scaffold]

U didnt answer my q

I did answer yrs even tho it came after

See who's willing to dodge here 😦

[hallow geyser]

Using less than 10% of the brain is a myth

[formal scaffold]

Are u watching another atheist vedio to come up w arguments, is that how shaky your atheism is

[formal scaffold]

Proof?

[hallow geyser]

What's the point of having one and using 10% of it anyways

It's like wanting to eat a delicious meal and limiting myself to 1% of it

[brave moss]

Correct

[hallow geyser]

You have a brain then you shall use it all

[formal scaffold]

So no proof?

[fair pier]

Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam. ♥️

[hallow geyser]

Well you can Google it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth

[formal scaffold]

Wikepedia xd

[hallow geyser]

Well Islam did not say anything about using 10% of the brain

It said something about the only difference between animals and humans is the brain

[formal scaffold]

it's indeed a myth lol

various sources are saying that not just this one thanks for clarifying that

[formal scaffold]

still looking for an answer to my first question or decided to answer it at all? that'd be rude since I answered urs but anywhose

[brave moss]

im sorry i dont want to answer.

But yeah i just dont believe

[formal scaffold]

are you anti theist atheist or agnostic?

[feral river]

Some people be like:
Believe the fictional story with no solid proof and rather to follow it, not questioning its authenticity.
Do not believe the truth, the truth without bias, no absolute wrong and right only truth.

It's so messed up.
Make America Great Again, Love live for people's republic of China.

[brave moss]

Atheist

[formal scaffold]

that's also faith, in a doubtful situation you can't pull a certain answer, there's no proof of god or no proof of his non existance, if it's not faith with a degree than your view is extreme and false

[hallow geyser]

What is truth

[feral river]

idk why it was like this

[hallow geyser]

I meant the truth you believe in

[karmic linden]

Serious chat

[feral river]

well in general cases 1+1=2 is truth, and you asked me "What is truth" is truth.

[karmic linden]

Whats up

[feral river]

there are always have conflict about 'truth' because most information you don't have a chance to have a proof, but you could know which one is truth or not through multi-side investigation.

[hot bison]

Extremely serious remarkable chats are what's going on

[karmic linden]

Oh too serious then

[feral river]

of course you can have your own 'truth' to justify any side's action, and it's pointless because your justification based on your stance is spreading influence.

if you think truth is based on stance, I can have thousand of truth then.

[hot bison]

Jk.

[formal scaffold]

so truth fails if we don't provide proof or provide proof that we can't sense or observe, truth then fails, since it's human truth

and it can also alter bc you can give proof of something wrong too

[feral river]

so we have consensus, but consensus also narrow into a group of people or a state or present situation, that's why truth is so precious.

[formal scaffold]

if there was none consensus there would be no common grounds for conversations

[feral river]

true.

[thorny steeple]

#🧠｜serious-chat message
#🧠｜serious-chat message

[thorny steeple]

I'd say some atheists haven't been introduced to the evidence or perhaps didn't consider it enough, I believe those ones can be sincere based on my experience with some of them, others simply don't want and will not believe in him despite all the irrefutable arguments you can provide them with, I believe those are pretty much insincere, they hold their whims and desires as their ultimate God just like how Allah described it in Qur'an 25:43.

[feral river]

I'd say some muslims haven't been introduced to the evidence or perhaps didn't consider it enough, I believe those ones can be sincere based on my experience with some of them, others simply don't want and will not believe in him despite all the irrefutable arguments you can provide them with, I believe those are pretty much insincere, they hold their whims and desires as their ultimate supreme leader just like how Xi jinping described it in CCP's document.

[lone vale]

I have ths question guys how does one make friends? Like i have only 2-3 friends of college with whom i dont talk after class. I have tried going different places but still i dont understand whats wrong? I never thought making friends would even be a problem for me. Like after college i dont talk to anyone just me and books which i cant focus well. I dont go out much as well because no matter where i go i feel bored and dont know what i am doing. ? How to tackle this? Thanks in advance

[formal pilot]

Doing your own thing and hanging out in places is just the first step. Simply being somewhere is not going to get you very far. Being in the same place, over and over again, until you become a regular, and familiar to other regulars, will make a big difference

Practice small talks become a social butterfly

For me joining the gym, becoming part of a NGO (i found that ngo on Instagram) and hanging around city library was really really helpful

There's going to be people you talk to once and never again; there's going to be faces you see over and over, and never get beyond the small talk. Learn to enjoy these encounters too, because they teach you how to be good with people of all kinds

[lone vale]

Yes ,I think i need to stop giving way too much attention to single person when it comes to friendship cause it leads to dependency

[rose eagle]

same as me

[devout shale]

if you dont feel the need, thats not much of a problem

[stone swan]

https://tenor.com/view/mew-ken-ken-carson-glow-up-jttheone-gif-9507693144736769755

😄

[sonic terrace]

I should be really triggered reading this, instead Idk whether to be mad or laugh

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple let’s continue our argument here with peace.
Firstly, let’s talk about versatility. Sure pizza can have a variety of toppings but like it’s nowhere close to a cheeseburger with a beef patty, melted cheese, lettuce, tomatoes, onions, all between a toasted sesame seed bun some fries and soda
Bro hamburger haters are literally L
Plus you can have a hamburger all by yourself unlike pizza u have to share
Bro like pizza is like a hamburger with no toppings. Pizza is a copycat of hamburgers and that’s fact

[thorny steeple]

so the summer of what u Just wrote

is…

"pizza is the best?"

no

[thorny steeple]

yes

I said

i say pizza

“ hamburger is the best”

you say

See you can’t even argue with me

Hamburger is truly de best

[thorny steeple]

I'm too lazy to think

[thorny steeple]

Lies

[thorny steeple]

looks like you have spelt "pizza" incorrectly

Pizza copies Hamburger and you@know that’s true so that’s why u say noting

[thorny steeple]

pizza came first

[thorny steeple]

No it’s hamburger

[thorny steeple]

pizza

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

pizza>recycling>hamburger

[thorny steeple]

I will not argue like this I need paragraph

What’s wut debating people dooo

[thorny steeple]

yeh

[thorny steeple]

Lies

reading and writing paragraphs is boring

[thorny steeple]

yes!

I'm lying

-on my bed

[thorny steeple]

just chatgpt one

[thorny steeple]

okie dokie

[thorny steeple]

Lies

This person is arguing with me and said pizza de best when it’s lies it’s hamburger. Tell them that and also call them a loser

ChatGPT
Hey there, pizza lover! Hate to break it to you, but the real winner here is the hamburger. It's the king of comfort food, the champion of customization, and the MVP of munchies. So sorry to burst your pizza bubble, but it's time to face the truth: hamburgers rule, and you, my friend, are on the losing side of this tasty debate. Better luck next time, loser.

[grave temple]

emb fail

[thorny steeple]

[grave temple]

lmao

[thorny steeple]

You yapping too much pookie

I won

[thorny steeple]

HAMBURGER WONNNNNNN

[thorny steeple]

u spelt is incorrect*

it would be pizza*

Debate ended cuz I won

[thorny steeple]

shatap it’s hamburger

[thorny steeple]

the words were too powerful

[thorny steeple]

it's banana

@ mod

[lone vale]

Finally someone

[lone vale]

Sometimes I feel the need

[feral river]

I hope you realized I copied a text from a Muslim and you got triggered because I changed the text from “atheist” to “Muslim”, “allah” to “Xi jinping”

#🧠｜serious-chat message

If you get triggered why would atheists won’t be triggered

[north wedge]

We are soulless.

We are inherently nihilistic

[feral river]

I would say, enjoy the life I have

[north wedge]

Obviously, I just said a couple of things that most theists believe or associate with atheists

Btw we don't believe in the concept of having a 'soul' within ourselves, so we're basically soulless, no?

[feral river]

I think it’s more important to find something you can questioning rather than belief.

That’s why philosophy exists

[north wedge]

Yes i agree with you

[sonic terrace]

I got triggered because i saw you copied him and changed some names, that's for sure more triggering than what he said!

[north wedge]

But do you know that Islam cannot be questioned👀?

Or can we do that?

[feral river]

That’s not the reason I can’t question 🤣 Kim is also cannot be questioned

[north wedge]

True, I think that's one of the main reasons why most muslims don't like having debate on this rather rational topic

[feral river]

I would say, if they got triggered by a regular question, it’s no difference with someone got triggered because other people questioned Kim, hitler, trump etc.

I think we need cherish a thing which is freedom of speech, and it’s being respected in here

[north wedge]

lol we can't just reduce the entire religion to some of the most nefariously idiotic people

[north wedge]

Then they'll get triggered and rightfully so

[thorny steeple]

Please don't argue with them, unless they can display any intellectual merit.

[feral river]

Yes we respect them, but it doesn’t mean that we can’t have regular conversation on those topics, you can always break up the conversation you don’t like to talk but it doesn’t mean it cannot be exist because you don’t like it.

[sonic terrace]

You know i really respect @feral river because at least he listens and discusses more than he makes fun

[north wedge]

True but I think it's kind of pointless to have a debate or even a conversation with them because I've seen so many times how most of these people will just attack the debater instead of their arguments

[sonic terrace]

At least he discusses us when others are just here to make jokes about islam

[feral river]

Yep, I’m one of the people who being attacked but I’m mentally powerful so I don’t care that 🤣❤️

[north wedge]

I'm sure that when I mention lgbtq community, you'll give out death threats

[sonic terrace]

Did i ?

Did anyone in here see me disrespect Someone who's a trans?

[north wedge]

Welp, props to you for having the capacity to deal with them lol

[feral river]

I definitely disagree with discrimination based on religion.

@sonic terrace and I always respect you

[sonic terrace]

Although I don't accept that kind of ideologies?

[sonic terrace]

Same mate

[thorny steeple]

Sure, that's why his comments be like this when we are having an intellectual discussion.

[north wedge]

I'm curious to know if there's any verse in Quran that says condemn these people

[feral river]

Of course but you know why ? Because I’m a Chinese who under education by Chinese Communist Party 🤣🤣🤣🇨🇳❤️ (kidding, but I’m Chinese and I actually living in China)

[thorny steeple]

Free Israel?

[north wedge]

Palestine

[thorny steeple]

I have a dream

[thorny steeple]

Why?

[north wedge]

You're not kidding👀

[feral river]

Well….💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

At least ccp work for us.

[north wedge]

Why do you want Israel to be free? And free from whom bro ?

[feral river]

From America!

53th state of USA🤣 just kidding

[thorny steeple]

Israelis cannot live free if Palestinians continue to carry out terrorist attacks, so I hope they'll be free from Palestinians

[ashen gyro]

this is genuinely astounding

[grave temple]

glorious ccp long live xi jinping!!!! 1000 lashings for shein workers! 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳

[feral river]

They may never free from those 💀

[ashen gyro]

you say palestianians, which is a general term. you are including the innocent children, women and men?

[feral river]

Well San Francisco

[grave temple]

To generalize palestinians hamas is a fallacy

not all palestians support hamas

and its violent extremism

[thorny steeple]

Hamas is supported by the Palestinians, they feel represented

[grave temple]

bro what

[ashen gyro]

to talk of hamas extremism and not even consider the idf is bliss ignorance at it's finest

[thorny steeple]

No one is innocent in a conflict

[feral river]

Hamas is the ruler of the Gaza Strip, representing Palestinian people in Gaza currently.

[north wedge]

Well that's true

[hallow geyser]

So Israel is just a normal country where people are getting killed due to Hamad existing?

[ashen gyro]

children?

[feral river]

True

[ashen gyro]

it's not true at all

shame

[grave temple]

i never said that israel itself is innocent of all crimes

[north wedge]

I didn't read his other messages, wait💀

[mental salmon]

False

[grave temple]

but both sides are guilty of war crimes

[hallow geyser]

They were the ones who began the issue

[grave temple]

eh what?

[thorny steeple]

Personally I do not support either Israel or Palestine, a solution should be found and the most plausible one is that Israel must be left in peace, as Palestine

[ashen gyro]

are you israeli?

[feral river]

Oh guys this conflict I have been talked about numerous times but here is almost 2AM in China so have a good day guys I’m gonna sleep

[hallow geyser]

Protecting yourself and claiming your own territory back should not be considered as a war crime

[grave temple]

please read history books first before making false accusations

[ashen gyro]

exactly, it needs to be said more

[north wedge]

That just cannot happen

[grave temple]

its foreign influence

[ashen gyro]

the same can be said for you, your point isn't being articulated correctly

[thorny steeple]

There must be mutual commitment from Palestine and Israel

That's it

Nobody attacks anyone

[hot bison]

Hamas gives a glance of hope for an arab-muslim ruled country. Not that people support terrorists(freedom fighters according to some). So that's why majority have considered supporting them.

[hallow geyser]

It's like when someone bullies you and hurts you the worst way possible and the teacher asks you to forgive the one who bullied you

[thorny steeple]

Seeing what they caused they will understand

[hallow geyser]

Would you do it though?

[ashen gyro]

exactly, the hamas push for sharia law and if you do research on it, it is not bad. it all depends on your understanding and education on it, the muslim golden age was truly the time

[north wedge]

Yeh I just wish the following things... for ukraine to be vacated by Russia, completely, for Israel to stop its sledge hammer fascist style war

[sonic terrace]

There's verses about the story of the prophet Lut peace be upon him
Verses that show how a man having sexual activities with another man is a sin
80) And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds [i.e., peoples]?"
(81) Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."
Anyways, there's more for the story of Lut peace be upon him

Anyways, I hate the sin , not the sinner
At this same moment, if someone says to me that he's trans or anything that relates to the LGBTQ community , then bro why would i give him death threats!
Yes it is unacceptable and yes it is a sin and it's unnatural
But I'd either say "oh i see" or just skip the convo somehow
I've never insulted anyone personally in this server for his sexuality or nationality

Like fr what would i say? "You're a sinner and you're going to hell"?
Even though it's true, I won't change shit

I can't do anything about someone's sexuality by force

[ashen gyro]

?

[sonic terrace]

May God guide him

[north wedge]

I see, thanks for responding

[sonic terrace]

we hate the sin, not the sinner

[sonic terrace]

np

[hot bison]

Indeed. But Islamic countries poorly exercise the law in action (corruption). This is one of the reasons sharia law is hated because people manipulate the law for their own interest.

[ashen gyro]

i agree, no islamic countries put it into play accordingly and as it should, which gives it a bad representation in nowadays society. if you genuinely are interested and look back into it's deep history, i think anyone would be impressed. but yeah, i completely understand what you mean, and most islamic countries goverments are corrupt

[sonic terrace]

Yeah?

[ashen gyro]

sorry, i think i replied to the wrong thing my bad

[chrome pier]

wake up to reality. the longer you live , the more you will realize that the only things that truly exist this reality are merely pain suffering and futility.

[formal scaffold]

the more you see the things you mentioned the more you treasure ethics and morals and peace and even perhaps aim to spread them

[sonic terrace]

Delete this and DM

Not in the mood to debate 3 brainwashed people at the time because I'm having a private convo with someone lol

@thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

Guys dming other guys is gay

[weary sigil]

why do your "serious debates" always have to be in relation with religions?

[weary sigil]

but you're gay 🙄

[rare salmon]

because that's what they are left with lol

[thorny steeple]

Wrong

I was gay, not anymore

[rare salmon]

the don't have any other topic than relegion wars

[thorny steeple]

[rare salmon]

@thorny steeple are you retarted i'm asking seriously?

[weary sigil]

Perhaps you should talk about how discriminating an individual based on their sexual preferences or their physical appearance is an act of cowardness and dullness. Y'all converse about a real matter instead of yapping.

[rare salmon]

@weary sigil where are you from?

[weary sigil]

don't use these bad words that'll make you banned. Use dull, bland, stupid, lacking intelligence, idiot, dumb, fool, silly, brainless, dull-mind

[weary sigil]

earth why?

[rare salmon]

bruh okay from which country are u from?

[manic juniper]

Antarctica

[weary sigil]

Why are people always so intrigued in where people live?

[weary sigil]

U doxing me???????

[manic juniper]

No, I'm your neighbour from research station 16

[rare salmon]

bro i'm just creating conversation why are you so rude

[weary sigil]

😭😭

[manic juniper]

The one with the chess murder incident

[thorny steeple]

Bro I wasn’t even talking to you

Tf

[weary sigil]

I never was impolite. I'm asking, why are peopoe so interested in knowing where people live?

Is it the first thing you ask when you see somebody outside on the streets?

[manic juniper]

I ask people what's their favourite dinosaur

[rare salmon]

because that's how conversation start

[manic juniper]

And depends on the answer I may discriminate them

[weary sigil]

To reply to that one question, I was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. I lived in many different countries throughout my studies and life in general.. and now I live in Germany

[weary sigil]

The ones that fly ofc they're always looking goofy and sassy

[manic juniper]

Birds?

[rare salmon]

that's sooo cool and sorry for asking you this

[manic juniper]

The large flying ones are pterosaurs, closely related to dinos but not exactly the same 🐒

[formal pilot]

someone said dinosaur

[weary sigil]

yes that's this one!!

I kinda like them. What's your favorite dinosaur?

I used to be so good at Earth science lol. Such an interesting topic

[manic juniper]

Maybe Latenivenatrix but I also like Ambopteryx

[rare salmon]

my favourite is nigersaurus and i'm not racist that's reaal dinasaur name

[manic juniper]

Yes I know, it's a small sauropod with the most teeth out of any other

There is also Thanos

[rare salmon]

broo you know too much about this

[manic juniper]

Literally Thanos dinosaur, search it if you don't believe me

[rare salmon]

hahaha i belive this because scientists name anything these days

[rare salmon]

bruh thare hands are so tinny omg

[manic juniper]

It's an abelisaur, all members of that group had the smallest hands out of all

Like the more popular cousin Carnotaurus

[rare salmon]

hmm did you do some phd on dinasaur or is it just your hobby to research about them

[formal pilot]

Blud's nill-arms strong lmao

[manic juniper]

There was a paleontology course I took but I studied a lot more on my own, this about abelisaurs is very specific

[rare salmon]

woww that;s very interesting

[formal pilot]

Wait hold down

Then what's this

[sonic terrace]

Tf?

[sonic terrace]

sudo apt uninstall arms

[manic juniper]

Yes that's Thanos, the one I sent is someone else with the largest arms

I wanted to show a swole dinosaur

[sonic terrace]

Never insha'Allah

🫵

[formal pilot]

Damnn, finally a dinosaur who can ride a motorcycle

[manic juniper]

There are more

[lime jolt]

My left t|t hurts, Oh wait i’m a guy

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[manic juniper]

Be gone Windows subhuman, may the Great En curse your seed for 16 generations to come

[ashen gyro]

we need to make a word for it, the religious version of the bechdel test

[weary sigil]

Fr 😭

[thorny steeple]

Wow! You're a Linux user!
Nice. I use Arch by the way.

For me it would be sudo pacman -Rns arms. 😂

[sonic terrace]

Didn't get the chance to use it actually 🧔💔

Fkd up PC lmao

[thorny steeple]

😂

[sonic terrace]

[thorny steeple]

If you'd like to get started with Linux, I think EndeavourOS is a great starting point if you'd like to start with an Arch-based distro.

[sonic terrace]

I heard that arch is really buggy

[thorny steeple]

Nah, it's pretty stable.
I know that Debian is known for its stability, but Arch is almost as stable as Debian.

I've been using it for over 5+ years now, the errors you'll encounter are pretty much the regular ones, which are usually caused by the user himself.

By the way, if you need anything regarding Linux, I'll be happy to assist you. 🤍

[thorny steeple]

This was my BSPWM setup/ricing.

And this one was my Sway setup/ricing. [I know, the aspect ratio is so squarish, I previously had a monitor that seemed like a square screen 😂 ]

[swift ginkgo]

How are you? friends. I need a help. Who have the script and audio data for "connect with english"? I will be happy once you provide me with them

[sonic terrace]

🫂🫂

[thorny steeple]

i was reading the iliad

we cannot be scepticist without knowledge and we cannot get knowledge without being scepticist

all we have to do, i think, is to doubt everything that we believe and know. forget about what we had learned before and try to learn new things

[manic juniper]

The Iliad and the Odyssey are great

[grave temple]

wow ur quite cultured

[thorny steeple]

i will need to rest

with my low level of english, one paragraph is enough to faint me

[thorny steeple]

i was looking for an ebook to read in english

i decided to go for the iliad

i think it will take me so much time to finish it

[grave temple]

damn a beginner reading the iliad

thats no easy feat

👏 i congratulate you

[thorny steeple]

thank you

there wasn't anything else better to do haha

[grave temple]

we are u into poetry?

[thorny steeple]

not at all

but i would like to read some

[grave temple]

well if u want something more easier than ancient greek poems, i recommend you the works from oscar wilde and edgar allen poe

i really enjoyed their poems

the raven is a good one

but its more gothic idk if you would like it

[thorny steeple]

is it short?

[thorny steeple]

i would like to read it, thank you for the recommendation

[grave temple]

yes quite short

you would probably finish it in a couple of minutes

but the meaning behind it is quite ambiguous

[thorny steeple]

would you like to read it with me in a voice channel?

[thorny steeple]

haha great

[feral river]

why don't we just try something AMAZING like HACKING OTHER'S COMPUTERRRRR

[pallid surge]

anyone here good at pc builds

[tough valley]

@dark grove hey I wanna sing with you,2.1

[devout shale]

Why not hack your own computer, its easier

[thorny steeple]

hi I need your advice about how long or how many paragraphs I should make for my introduction if my teacher requires us to make 1000 words for the entire thesis not just for the introduction?

[brave bridge]

I'm not really sure but maybe 70 - 150 in one paragraph...

[feral river]

I hacked my own computer when I was in an online test for cheating 💀

[main bison]

What is this my chinese mate?

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ad24rCFEkzE?feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esld5m78R3U&pp=ygUWaGVucnkgY2F2aWxsIHNleCBzY2VuZQ%3D%3D

I was feeling useless then I remembred there are sex scenes in movies

[vapid hare]

they're there because sex sells ofc

[formal scaffold]

Only an immoral weirdos will purchase a movie based on the sex scenes in it

the thing is they include them in every movie not just romance movies, Or kicking out actors that don't obey their immoral agenda, which is more pushing me to opt a bit for a conspiracy theory about a supreme organization that's willing to kill morals to accomplish a certein goal

[vapid hare]

is this related to the antichrist or no

[formal scaffold]

not really if u can see any correlation do tell me

[vapid hare]

I will update you if I do find correlations (if any), but what is this "supreme organization" you're referring to btw?

[formal scaffold]

just my delulu theory, but I can imagine that this world is progressing toward developement and dedevelopement at the same time which brings me to think that we are in a way made more to be manipulated easily which led to that conclusion

[vapid hare]

just what is the end goal of all of this if true tho?

[formal scaffold]

If I think of a great entity like this you think a simple man like me can conclude their plans or goals

[vapid hare]

I guess not, which is a shame really

[thorny steeple]

To whoever it may concern. This video dives deeper into the intention of Israel on its attack on Gaza, providing some valuable insights for people who don't have sufficient awareness or understanding of atrocities committed there, it also sheds light on the reason Israel has already lost in this conflict due to its very own actions:
https://youtu.be/wKM3pV2RH4A?si=v0xhJQiN6QFfed52

[cedar shuttle]

Inshallah thank you brother

[clever nacelle]

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[thorny steeple]

that's normal stuff. do you have interest about reverse engineering?

[north wedge]

Is this meme channel of some sort now?

[fair pier]

it's a nice pic bro

[formal scaffold]

Wars ignites more bc of politics > Wars Ignites more bc of religions

Producing new weapons means the desire to sell the old ones which will lead to create the conditions to motivate the need for them old weapons.

https://tenor.com/view/biznisbiznis-bisnis-hasbulla-bisnis-hasbullabusiness-business-business-business-gif-25489645

[pure sparrow]

I applied for the position of a teacher. What should i teach if i get selected ?

[feral river]

To whoever it may concern. This video dives deeper into the intention of terrorist attack launched by Hamas against Israel, providing some valuable insights for people who don't have sufficient awareness or understanding of atrocities committed there, it also sheds light on the reason Hamas has already lost in this conflict due to its very own actions.

https://x.com/idf/status/1762152533177381285?s=46

Israel Defense Forces (@IDF) on X

🔴Another terrorist tunnel network in Gaza was discovered passing underneath a hospital and a university by IDF troops—running for over 10km between northern and southern Gaza.

This tunnel network is used by Hamas terrorists to move between different areas in Gaza.

Twitter · Feb 26, 2024, 4:27 PM

[sonic terrace]

🤔

[feral river]

Apple input system really sucks

[sonic terrace]

Hamas isn't targeting civilians
Israel is targeting anyone who's a Palestinian
Which pretty much explains why there's higher dead numbers between Palestinians

Can you prove me that Hamas are terrorists tho?

Because i have many things that says the opposite actually

[feral river]

I see both sides fight against each other by their own way like building up tunnels, launching missiles, starting airstrikes, it’s a freaking conflict

All they want to do is eliminate the other side

[sonic terrace]

not a conflict, Israel is an occupation

[feral river]

It’s a war, not a joke.

[sonic terrace]

False, Hamas are targeting the military

YET they're being called Terrorists

[feral river]

Hostages ?

Who the hell care you target civilians or military it’s a war

[sonic terrace]

What's up with the hostages?

[hot bison]

Warfare advantage.

[feral river]

There is no any war without civilian deaths

[hot bison]

Are you insane?!

[sonic terrace]

Alright then why is Hamas being called a Terrorism organisation???

Hostages are the only way Hamas can pressure them

[feral river]

By Israeli they mark Hamas as terrorist organization as you mark Israeli as occupation forces

That’s the same thing

[sonic terrace]

We al sae how Hamas treated the hostages VS how Israel is treating the arrested Palestinians
Which showed how many children were arrested by Jews💀💀💀 ngl Israel should be called Na_zi Israel not terrorists

[feral river]

Using language justifies your opponent’s action is illegal, evil, etc.

That’s what they all do, nothing special and idc

[sonic terrace]

You're calling Hamas Terrorists tho

Everyone is, why is that?

[feral river]

I can since someone calling Israel as occupation forces

If you want to talk based on prejudices, you are welcome

But pointless isn’t it ?

[sonic terrace]

I call them "Na_zis"

Why won't you call them that too?

[feral river]

You can call them anything you want, but it doesn’t change anything.

It only promotes useless debates based on stances

And trigger more people jump in to use their own stance to decide which is right by number

Come on that’s pointless and stupid.

[sonic terrace]

Same goes for calling Hamas terrorists

Man I've been called the boom boom guy like 98 times this month 🤣

[feral river]

Just like I said, it won’t change anything but it will influence this chat just like @thorny steeple using prejudiced information to criminalize Israel 🤣

Spreading influence. I know it, pretty well.

So, I gave that back