🧠｜serious-chat

[grave temple]

if u dont trust wikipedia

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections

Do you trust the FBI?

bro there were always a conflict in ukraine (donbas) and hamas-israel

even before obama

[covert raptor]

Not at this scale full surrounding invasion

[grave temple]

these wars werent recent

[covert raptor]

He publicly declared it too

[covert raptor]

Seems like cope

[grave temple]

I consider the invasion of Crimea and the Arab wars to be invasions of large scale

[covert raptor]

"special military operation" declared to destroy ukraine

Biden was set up by Russia Hamas and China

[grave temple]

Cope? These are all public and real historic events, dening their existence doesn't help your point

[grave temple]

Ukraine's existence was never going to last

they were simply allowed to "exist" for the time being before being swallowed up the russians

[grave temple]

ok bro sure

[manic juniper]

He is a troll

[grave temple]

where is your evidence

[grave temple]

yeah i think so too.

[covert raptor]

No an argument lizard bro

[manic juniper]

It isn't an argument when it's a fact

[covert raptor]

Ask Hamas and Putin why this all happened

[grave temple]

💀

[manic juniper]

You were lying yesterday and you're lying now as well

[grave temple]

bro is dening the crimean and the six day war

💀

[covert raptor]

Biden is all easy every dictator knows this

[covert raptor]

I agreed under Obama and Biden

They brought back Biden to continue to special military operation

Obama gave 2 s$hit about the land grab initially

[grave temple]

bro the six day war between israel and the arabs countries was during 1967 😭 😭 😭

[covert raptor]

Crimea went away like a toilet flush

[grave temple]

what is brodie saying

[feral river]

Once Putin go war with Ukraine, Biden big W 🤣

war quagmire

As I said, that’s American’s president not Europeans

Biden successfully drag Putin and his nation into a war quagmire, on protracted war.

[covert raptor]

I remember when prior to the day of full scale invasion declaration by Putin, Biden called it a "minor infraction" nothing to worry about

Ukraine seems to be losing ground and retreating and putting seems happy and joyful in the recent interviews

[feral river]

Don’t trust anything from politicians 🤣

See their action

See what they do, not hear what they say

If they don’t know how to scam, they can’t be a politician

[covert raptor]

I'm not joining either side for Trump or Biden when I say this. Trump is uncontrollable and ballistic. Biden reminds me of deadbeat dads doing barely $hit

This is not what the USA deserves

[feral river]

Well during Biden administration there is not just bad thing happened

I just say he is just not bad doesn’t mean he’s good

He is unable to unite America again, the divisive of America strengthened and their country is in crisis, their government even shutting down for a while

And unable to handle the Texit movement

But he’s really good at transfer America’s internal problem to external problem and American economy stably growing

[manic juniper]

?

[feral river]

Using Ukrainian life’s to fight for America, that’s what we usually say

We call it “superpower’s prospect”

[manic juniper]

The way you're answering is completely disconnected

[covert raptor]

It's quite shocking to see there are still religious supporters of old senile men Biden Trump while they come out with knives at me for criticizing their loser behavior

Dudes like @manic juniper @grave temple
The west is doomed

[manic juniper]

I'm not American, throw your temper tantrum elsewhere

If your country gets worse than it already is I'll have a good laugh in the sauna while drinking glögi

[covert raptor]

Enjoy your time you have until Putin drop some bombs over the roof

He's closely done with Ukraine alright

America doesn't step the game nato will cease to exist

[manic juniper]

We don't need NATO, Poland is enough to solo Russia

Yilong got offended earlier when I called him a troll 😢

[covert raptor]

[narrow fossil]

They're both loosers

Every politician in the US is a looser

They all suck, the democrats don't have any balls, and the republicans can't go against trump or they get executed

[feral river]

Because a single ? can’t get what you mean😂

US is strengthening its tie with Europe by this war

This war perfectly shows what Europe will be if there is no America, so continue to buy their expensive energy products!

[manic juniper]

My country did fine without America throughout the cold war

They will fade out of importance just like any other and Bulgaria will take its place as world superpower

[trim lotus]

hit the nil on the head,thats the way america usually used to improve their econmy

[covert raptor]

When we have dumb supporters, what is there to worry about 😂
I can't believe these people who are here defending deadbeat Biden thinking I'm pro-trumo

[manic juniper]

No one is defending Biden here, you're schizophrenic

[covert raptor]

Go play with your little lizard

[manic juniper]

Unoriginal

[feral river]

Why you hate Biden so much 😂

[manic juniper]

I don't hate him, I think he's just existing

[feral river]

Idk why you think he’s bad I just think he’s doing nothing special in American history, typical Cold War politician

[manic juniper]

I don't think he's bad

[feral river]

Well then what is the point

[manic juniper]

If anything I think his administration is doing okay, pretty much like Sanna Marin's. An average politician

[covert raptor]

Biden is sleeping well in his nursing home because of your protection 🏠
Good work

[feral river]

Yeah, just not bad as I said

[manic juniper]

Rent free

I think Trump looks more iconic, but Biden looks more like an American president would look like

[merry sand]

Hello

[manic juniper]

Biden would cause more nostalgia

[feral river]

True

But maybe Trump cares American people?

[covert raptor]

Not when undergoing dementia. He won't remember your good deeds.

[manic juniper]

It's like Mao Zedong and Xi Jinping, Mao looks more iconic and Xi is more standard

[feral river]

Mao is too much radical 🤣

[manic juniper]

Yes but I'm only talking in terms of appearance here

[oak geyser]

Does anybody know where you can find a catalogue of ESL book? I'm looking for the one titled "The English Hub 2B"

[feral river]

I think trump wants establish a new order for American people, he is a pure businessman he asked money from European to pay their bill and he quit a lot of agreements like Paris climate change

[covert raptor]

where we are at "my crush is biden" 😂

[feral river]

American needs Kim

They will know how good Biden is during rule by Kim

[manic juniper]

Our newly elected president is a thin version of our prime minister

[feral river]

Awesome

Xi jinping will stay in power… till he dies

[covert raptor]

A Kim Kardashian will be cool
Kanye as VP

I vouch for this option. Just any body other than the current senile old men

I think they can pull it off because there's a lot of registered independents.

For the first time in American history

[grave temple]

Im not american nor religious 😂 😂 😂

brodie is pressed after i proved him wrong

[grave temple]

aint no way broski saying im defending biden

hes actually shizo

between an old man with dementia and a hot-headed business man, i dont see who i could defend

😂

[feral river]

🤣😂

Defend me, elect me as American president

At least I won’t poop myself

[covert raptor]

My dude sucked up to Biden by white knighting ferociously with Wikipedia and all now throws the grandpa under the bus. C'mon man 😂

The most disloyal snake ever. Biden doesn't need you. Get lost with your malarkey

Here's what Biden the 🐐 has to say 👇

https://tenor.com/view/biden-bitch-stupid-president-gif-24634861

[grave temple]

bro are u demented too

bro really cant seem to know who he was defending

[grave temple]

he was legit talking garbage of trump moments ago

whos defending the old man 😂 😂 😂 😂

[grave temple]

he deletes his previous points because he knows he cannot defend the old man

🤣 🤣 🤣

at least have some conviction before saying things

[grave temple]

plus whoever the US elects is none of my business i aint so pressed like you "biden the goat" 🤣 🤣 🤣

he is more like a sheep cus he reads off memory cards and follows whoever leads him blindly

i never supported biden in the first place 😂

[covert raptor]

OH MY GAWD DEEZ PINGS MAN !!!

I'll end the discussion here. Good laughs fellas. Those who didn't, you're pathetic. Yes, I'm talking about you

Serious talk!!

@pallid owl my man typing for hours now. What are you upto

[pallid owl]

just tryin.to figure out how to usethe keyboard

[last dome]

pineapple pizza shit and american football is the better football

[bold flame]

hi

[thorny steeple]

hi

[thorny steeple]

brought another book from the library

i think the book will make me go crazy

[feral river]

why China is not interfering US's election 😂

we believe Trump will back, make america great again

Emperor of the United States 🇺🇸

[thorny steeple]

the queen isn't dead yet

she will take over the world very soon

Bri'ish brovs

[feral river]

she's dead ?

Elizabeth II

[thorny steeple]

last seen : September 8, 2022

rip

[feral river]

why is UK's queen usually having a long life then.

21 April 1926 – 8 September 2022

[thorny steeple]

Royal people always get health protection and always have a group of doctors with them everywhere if they have any problems

[feral river]

rip

[thorny steeple]

they also follow a specific diet which is specifically made for them

i wish i were a king

[feral river]

she's great, I think but I remember that emperor and queen of the UK doesn't have actual power ?

the prime minister holding the power

[thorny steeple]

they used to rule the whole southern Asian countries

yeah

[feral river]

I mean leading the nation, passing laws and acts

[thorny steeple]

by the way,i have a coin from the British colonial period

wanna see?

[feral river]

cool yep why not

[thorny steeple]

150 years old

[feral river]

awesome I think it can be sold for a good price

but keep it

[thorny steeple]

Royal families many people with many people them, like ministers, blah blah. They all help them to ruke the country. If you go to any big position then you will get people. around u

[thorny steeple]

yup

[elder pewter]

hi

[thorny steeple]

who summined meeee

@feral river this one is even more rare

around 182$

i checked the price on the internet

I'm going to be rich

[thorny steeple]

yayayaa

i collect old coins

[thorny steeple]

this one looks weird

[thorny steeple]

the circular one is cute it looks like a flower

same coin but made with different materials

[thorny steeple]

are we still sharing coin photos here

~~ politics time~~

[cinder token]

I still don't know why some make odd shaped coins rather than circles

[manic juniper]

Blind people

[cinder token]

[manic juniper]

Same shape and size banknotes and coins are horrible for people with disabilities

[formal pilot]

Well the reason behind it is to create a unique and distinctive coin to commemorate a special event, anniversary.

[cinder token]

💀

[cinder token]

Hmmm

[formal pilot]

Circular coins are for more standard circulation

[vapid hare]

why don't they make triangle coins @formal pilot

[broken birch]

and some totem of undying

lol

[vapid hare]

where can we get some??

[broken birch]

ig there are some in her bag😂

[vapid hare]

should we dig up her grave then

[broken birch]

lol

yk I thought she was older than 96

like 110 or something

[vapid hare]

not her, but prince charles. He looked like 120 tbh @broken birch

[broken birch]

💀

[cinder token]

Hmm

[vapid hare]

the cook islands have been cooking fr 🔥

[broken birch]

ayyyooo💀

my dream when i was 7yo was to live for 100 years

guess that im thinking again

[vapid hare]

you want to look like THAT?!

[broken birch]

nah

some skincare things may save me but i dont think that living 100 would be something good

this planet became creepy

[vapid hare]

good choice. I have never seen a 100 y/o who looks good tbh

[vapid hare]

not even skincare would help you look good when you're that old bro 💀

[broken birch]

even vaseline?💀

nah that skin would literally absorb it

[vapid hare]

skincare-resistant

[broken birch]

the ground will be wounded if i fall💀

[thorny steeple]

lol

y'all talking about skin-care routine?

lemme join

i don't want my future wife to say my husband is ugly

[broken birch]

we were talking about old people's skins💀

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bts-bangtan-boys-bangtan-sonyeondan-kpop-cute-gif-17198836

I'm young 🌱

[broken birch]

how old are you?

[thorny steeple]

guess

[broken birch]

17

[thorny steeple]

damn

16

u?

[broken birch]

that was close

[thorny steeple]

yeh pretty close

[broken birch]

17

[thorny steeple]

🤝

pretty close

[vapid hare]

guys I'm 100 😔

[thorny steeple]

you got any topics btw?

[thorny steeple]

10.0

i love babies

https://tenor.com/view/bts-bangtan-boys-bangtan-sonyeondan-kpop-cute-gif-17198836

[thorny steeple]

-as my breakfast

https://tenor.com/view/peppe-gif-16982270732562077650

anyway, moving to the next topic…

[broken birch]

more 💀💀s

[normal shoal]

what should i eat for breakfast (for tomorrow, its evening now)

[thorny steeple]

egg, bananas,

warm water

[broken birch]

im sending messages and it takes 2 mins to be sent💀

[thorny steeple]

slow network💀

it happens to my wifi too sometimes

[normal shoal]

sounds good, if have banana somewhere in my house

[broken birch]

cornflakes

[thorny steeple]

in ur pants

(just kidding)

[broken birch]

lmao

[normal shoal]

its been a while since i eat those

[thorny steeple]

just kidding
pardon!

[normal shoal]

no worries

[thorny steeple]

wait

i got a book about hygiene

lemme check there

eggs, milk, potato,wheat,rice etc

[normal shoal]

cool cool

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/peppe-gif-16982270732562077650

remember to drink water and stay hydrated

[normal shoal]

fosho

[molten copper]

Why does he look so ghoulish

[vapid hare]

vampire

[thorny steeple]

real life Ken Kaneki

[molten copper]

He looks worse than kaneki, haha

[sonic terrace]

Does saying "it all happened by itself" make more sense?

[formal pilot]

Nope but saying your religious book got errors make more sense

[sonic terrace]

elaborate

[feral river]

again ?

🤣

[north wedge]

It'll die out sooner than any other debate that has happened about this topic tho

He's not very good at arguing

[formal pilot]

Dude it's just cyclic process

[feral river]

a nice video I found and I recommended.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tp0UNcjzl8

[north wedge]

Omg George Carlin

[formal pilot]

I'm in the middle of a workout

[north wedge]

I've been binging his videos

[feral river]

he's pretty awesome, he literally enlighten me in some political ideas.

but religion, this old topic, I think even I can gave out a perfect explain but I'm tired so just referring his video like he's talking about what religion is in 1999

such a legendary speech, I need to study his talking style

[formal scaffold]

Great arguments

I believe in the 7 monkies the great 7 clans with diffrent skin colors and after surviving millions of years made it to be human, the ritual of evolving is simple you gotta eat 500 bananas and your body will slightly change except g
The other monkies they dont evolve

The great xi ping will take over to restore sun wo kong legacy we'll evolve more to be aliens

Then we'll become plants on our own as a final evolve

[thorny steeple]

Hi! 👋

Assalamu Alikum everybody.

[formal scaffold]

Alikom salam

[thorny steeple]

What's wrong with the verse?

[thorny steeple]

I was about to ask the same

[formal scaffold]

I noticed smth with disbeliever who always take one on relegion, they must be insecure and their disbelieve shaken so they come here to find some reassurance from another disbeliever

[thorny steeple]

I'm confused, especially that this verse is actually a good example of why Islam is the truth.

[formal scaffold]

Its like them lgbbq they went the whole world to refer to them as "they" to reassure them about their lunacy

[thorny steeple]

That's what i am thinking too , but billaden is an atheist

So i am confused why did he use it

[north wedge]

Damn you're so condescending

[thorny steeple]

I agree, some people do need confirmation from others to be reassured.

[feral river]

at least not from something you can't even see it 🤣

some can't either be Kim or holding something really crazy like they are capable to do anything they want and they can take responsibility but they still trying to enlight people

really awesome

[silver vault]

How dare you say such words about this faithful believer of Islam?!

[feral river]

EXECUTION! 🇰🇵 🇵🇸

[silver vault]

Islam is a beautiful faith, one that teaches love and compassion towards all.

[silver vault]

In front of the whole crowd too!! We want public execution

[north wedge]

💀

[thorny steeple]

This chat needs to be rename "mockery chat", where you enter to see a bunch of non-intellectuals unreasonably mocking you and your beliefs.

[north wedge]

I'm pretty sure that reading their replies will make my stomach churn.

[silver vault]

Duh

[formal scaffold]

Dear atheists who keep downgrading relegion in here,

I, as a human who seeks justice and equality over all have notice you keep preaching your idology (atheism) on the counting of ours, in a sense it's considering a insult toward us beleivers, since I don't preach islam and I don't see much people preaching relegion, I see that those actions are unjust, and as a resort the next time I see any belitteling or insult toward any relegion, i'll start preaching mine, remember this server is mainly to learn english not to preach your biggoted ideologies on the count of others, you are welcome to clarify your ideas while not attacking others, but if you continue, I'll make sure to trample over what's dear to you like you do here.
Amen

[silver vault]

Big intellectual words coming from a person whose group labels the LGBTQ+ community as 'LGBBQ.

The irony is surreal

[formal scaffold]

all what I did up to now is replying to insults or clearing misunderstanding or answering questions, test me you'll surely find me

[thorny steeple]

Oh, my bad, let me fix this, LGBTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST+ and some other alphabets. 👍

[north wedge]

Bro's onto nothing

[heady crystal]

lets read some dialogue in vc

[silver vault]

These stupids want us to respect their community and then go around doing shit like this🤡

[thorny steeple]

Sir, do you happen to include me and Skuggi when you say "stupids"?

[formal scaffold]

I didn't pick any word of intellect in that statment, had to point that out

[onyx hazel]

Just "LGBT" is enough bro

[sonic terrace]

Naming them monkeys would be a huge insult for monkeys

[feral river]

Dear some people who keep downgrading Xi jinping in here,

I, as a human who seeks justice and equality over all have notice you keep preaching your idology (Xi jinping) on the counting of ours, in a sense it's considering a insult toward us beleivers, since I don't preach Xi jinping and I don't see much people preaching Xi jinping, I see that those actions are unjust, and as a resort the next time I see any belitteling or insult toward any Xi jinping, i'll start preaching mine, remember this server is mainly to learn english not to preach your biggoted ideologies on the count of others, you are welcome to clarify your ideas while not attacking others, but if you continue, I'll make sure to trample over what's dear to you like you do here.
Xi jinping 🤣

[sonic terrace]

That's hOmOpHoBiC you knoww

[sonic terrace]

Dear whoever you are

We don't give a single fk

[formal scaffold]

china is well know for copy past products

[sonic terrace]

And putting religious people in concentration camps

[onyx hazel]

It's not homophobic, it's actually just immaturity

[feral river]

oh then that's what comes out from your text bro 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

that's unfair

oh so you can make a statement about your belief so I can't make a statement about Xi jinping huh ?

[formal scaffold]

I warned you and you took the bite

[feral river]

I can do it

100% fair because that comes from your text

not mine

[sonic terrace]

so saying that it's ok for a male and another male to be a couple, is more mature and natural?

[sonic terrace]

Oh so everyone in here is allowed to insult Islam and we're not allowed to make a statement about anyone?

[feral river]

what the hell if you think every topic I'm saying is disrespect your belief, should I stop saying anything ? no, actually I respect your belief, what is your belief that's your freedom 100% fair, my belief is mine not you so respect then.

[thorny steeple]

I don't know, seems like they got offended when I said only "LGBTQ". 🤷‍♂️

[onyx hazel]

"mature" is definitely not your comment

[feral river]

you can if you think because I copied their text not mine 🤣

[sonic terrace]

Boom

[feral river]

you are using your logic

[formal scaffold]

blud nobody is insulting xi ping, I only did when u insulted our prophet so sit down and chill

[sonic terrace]

Define maturity

[feral river]

what the hell is this ?

[onyx hazel]

You first, go ahead

[feral river]

I didn't even referring Islam

[formal scaffold]

you got a bad memory not my problem

[formal scaffold]

stop lying

don't insult no relegion in here

[feral river]

give me one sentence that I referred Islam before you are texting that stuff 🤣

give me one

[formal scaffold]

including islam either do that or i'll mop the floor with china rn

[feral river]

give me one

[sonic terrace]

Mate i still remember you justifying kidnapping religious people

[thorny steeple]

I didn't mean to be homophobic. I hope they don't come after me.

[feral river]

did I referring that ? nope, I didn't say it at all

[formal scaffold]

I'm not paid to scroll up you know and I know what you been saying stop the cap

i warned u better not catch you that's all I'm going to say

[sonic terrace]

Unfortunately, guess we failed to give a fk 🤷

[sonic terrace]

Seems like you know more about it?

[feral river]

then I warned you back, better not catch you that's all I'm going to say

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq7cCuQvdbk

[feral river]

anything else ?

[formal scaffold]

nah

[feral river]

very good then

[onyx hazel]

?

[sonic terrace]

Oh my days bro 🤦🤦

[feral river]

if you think I'm justifying it you can point it out and I can give further explain, first I want to say I'm the man who talks the truth, no matter what truth are they

do I make myself clear ?

[sonic terrace]

Oh You're religious?

[formal scaffold]

any truth that showcases that china can be bad is considred to be truth too, should I say it outloud?

i need enough reason to do so,

[feral river]

you can say it if it's true.

[formal scaffold]

my intention will be surely hatred

[feral river]

I have nothing to say if it's truth

[formal scaffold]

bro

keep playing that game I warned u truth or not

this server isn't to preach atheism nor relegion nor nationalisme

if you start an argument better be prepared for the consequences

[feral river]

agree, so keep that in mind

[feral river]

always, I'm the man who is responsible for speeches. I hope you also know how important it is.

[formal scaffold]

you keep preaching nationalisme and you agree smh

[feral river]

give me one sentence if you think it's nationalism

that text is pure from your text.

[onyx hazel]

Can you prove your point that the media really says truth about China?

[formal scaffold]

you are surely out of yr mind

[formal scaffold]

truth is subejctive be warned

[feral river]

subjective truth ? can truth be subjective ?

I think it's objective truth then.

if it's subjective, yeah that's some ideology promoted.

[onyx hazel]

So, if it's subjective, what is the truth about China for you?

[formal scaffold]

I don't give a damn about china, don't insult relegion to promote xiping

[onyx hazel]

Chill, I'm just asking, I didn't even mention "xiping"

[formal scaffold]

I'm clearing it up for you why I'm even here, normaly you wouldn't catch me in this chat

let's try to learn english more than anything

[feral river]

atheism ? I see a lot of religious people having problem with atheism here.

[formal scaffold]

I see no relgeious people here insult atheism out of the blue only atheist mock us

[feral river]

personally I respect all of religion, and I said several times, it's your FREEDOM, you can be any religion you want, or you want to be part of LGBTQ+ that's your freedom, it's not my s fr and i have no idea about islam thing if you think quran tells you that is immoral or something else idk, please dont use your religion to regulate me and enforcing ideas on others just like you are spreading influence here.

[formal scaffold]

so please stop i don't wanna argue with u nor wanna talk to u I warned u warned me now beat it

[feral river]

done.

[onyx hazel]

If they do this, they're wrong. But the problem is that you generalize.

It's not all the atheist

[formal scaffold]

yeah not all

@feral river this guy and this @binladen

[sonic terrace]

Brother , we're discussing logically, not forcing ideologies on eachother
If i force something on you then you can call me immature!

[formal scaffold]

well it's all over for now let's see if they'd respect boundaries

[feral river]

peace time.

[onyx hazel]

If atheists disrespected you, that's still just your case

[sonic terrace]

Alright, what do you think about putting Muslims in concentration camps?

[formal scaffold]

they are disrespecting all relegious people

if they generalise i'll too

peace out

[feral river]

it's good for Chinese nation but not good for muslims, for Chinese government wanna purify the race and unite people under one ideology one flag one race even one thought so... that's what they do. and some muslims violated the law of people's republic of China so they were sent to there 100% fair just like other people do that they also will be sent to that place. personally I hope some of innocent muslim will out of drakness in that camp because I have my friend working in the camp and it's literally concentration camp even more terrible... I hope they will be okay but the progress won't be stopped.

this system is flawed and I think some innocent will out of there.

[sonic terrace]

Everyone in there is innocent man!

They got there just because they're Muslims!

Like i would say "yeah not all of them are innocent", but if that was true, they'd be going to jail or put in a court

[feral river]

if you think they are. but for Chinese people we don't think they are innocent, some of them started several attacks in Xinjiang and they angered the people in China and government, that's why when Xi jinping came to power he started crack down on those criminals.

[feral river]

well you can know something about China is not a democratic nation, the rule is not based on the law but on the people, some cases like general cases not interfering national security issue will be put that in court but some cases they have right to not put them on court and simply sent them to the camp.

I have been familar about this progress, As I mentioned earlier I have a friend who currently working in that camp

[sonic terrace]

I wouldn't consider someone who is attacking civilians a faithful muslim
But still, a huge percentage of them did nothing
Some people in the past years were trying to make Islam look bad, so they'd do this kind of terrorists attacks against innocent civilians

[feral river]

that's why I said this system is flawed, and I hope someday they will out of darkness.

[sonic terrace]

Can you tell me more about what your friend tells you?

[sonic terrace]

💯

[feral river]

well he is a CCP member and he served in military for 2 years and currently working in the camp.

he got huge salary like 2000~ USD per month

[hot bison]

You call this atrocity "progress" Chinese government was successful at being notoriously known for all its monstrosity globally.
Moreover; Fairness comes from morality. A religious concept. Therefore it's ignorant of you using the the word "fair" to refer to arbitrary arrests and incarceration. A discriminatory law legislated by the communist state does not justify incarceration. your statement which is the reflection of your though is very disrespectful to any individual who has sanity at this point.

[thorny steeple]

Hi! 👋
If you're an atheist, then I'd like to tell you, you're very respectful.
However, I'd like to point out that using generalizing tones like "atheists do this" or "theists do that" is usually not meant to imply that every single atheist or theist is doing it, it's just a concise way of talking about a group of people who do it, 'cause it would honestly be tiresome to always specify who, what, when etc...

[feral river]

that's what you should tell our government not me.

I was stating the truth and I think some of them will be free but some actions they do like promoting independence of Xinjiang, launching attacks against civilians, rallies out and spreading hate over society is clearly violated the law of People's Republic of China.

Anywhere has different law, if I was in a muslim country I must follow their law, if I was in america I need to follow them too.

that's not the reason you can violate the law.

[covert raptor]

Watching people call out their injustices against china using their chinese made devices and utilizing their resources and cheap labor for living a comfortable life. How ironic! 😂

If China disappears suddenly, billions of people will die instantly because we are heavily dependent on China for essential goods

[feral river]

kinda selfish, but we don't care because China is now powerful, the second powerful nation in the world.

most Chinese don't even know what is happening in Xinjiang.

because they don't care they are living very good.

why would I care politics if I have a good life then 😭

[covert raptor]

There won't be slave labor if people stop buying from that region. However, people are from all over the world. Hypocrisy is real 💯

Capitalists are no better than communists

[hot bison]

You mention violating laws. But you are providing no legitimate detail. random crimes with no statistics. Even if we believe this was correct according to statics. Its inhumane to individually try to justify such punishments. If a state legislate a law for its self in regards to arbitrary arrest and perhabs promoting lynching. Do you individually believe it's humane because it's a law? Or instead of justifying the state you rather follow some moral constructs?

All legal systems are established by a society. Regardless of its legal family. Do the Chinese people see concentration camps normal socially?

In society*

[covert raptor]

Iran has a good partnership with China?? What does that say about your country

[feral river]

you have your standard of inhumane, I have my standard of inhumane, Chinese people have Chinese standard of inhumane, I hope you will realize this.

[hot bison]

So you believe that in this case Chinese people see this punishment fit and that justifies acts committed by your state?

[hot bison]

Irrelevant. Elaborate.

[feral river]

you can tell me which punishment doesn't fit in your standard.

[hot bison]

If internationally. People condemn the brutal act of Chinese government. Is it my opinion or is it the majority? You didn't answer my question btw.

[feral river]

nope actually we don't give any s*** to international, we are the permanent UN security concil member and no one can make an act against China.

any act against China will be rejected, because we have veto power, just like Russia vetos Ukraine war something I don't remember but we don't really care them.

[hot bison]

Second time reading I understood. I never advocated for my government. Still irrelevant to this conversation we having. If you want to make a statement in this matter do so.

[hot bison]

It's not political really. I'm talking justice. You talking political.

[feral river]

well different people have different standards, in our sight if you don't have strength and power to affect us, better not to say something like this.

[covert raptor]

The point you're making is China is immoral and inhumane. But, your country has the top imports from China. You're pfp is someone saluting the Iran regime flag, so you are heavily indebted to them.

[feral river]

actually Chinese official just denied the truth of concentration camp against minorities, they say it's our matter you shall not interfere! don't interfering our housework, "we do anything we want in our home and we reject your statement"

[hot bison]

Why do you ignore my question and expand in different direction. I asked you a question and now you are getting defensive and speaking politically.

[feral river]

well that's my answer then. may I get your question again if I replied incorrectly ?

[hot bison]

I'm not trying to say China is inhumane. The political leaders who have implemented such cruel punishments are inhumane. What I say is that this is not justified because it's not the will of people. It's what the state decides.

[hot bison]

For your own info. This is the previous monarch. And no I do not support the current people in charge.

[covert raptor]

Iran kills their political opponents similar to China, especially after the Mahsa Amini women protests.

[hot bison]

Surely.

[covert raptor]

Well the people elected the Islamic Sharia regime??

[hot bison]

You actually replied with your opinion which is respectable. But if a legitimate statistics was provided I would believe otherwise

Mine craft china

[feral river]

well which legitimate statistics ?

[hot bison]

I wouldn't want to discuss politics. In my opinion all politicians are criminals. And have their hands in people blood to a degree. Some less than others.

[hot bison]

People elected an image in their mind. That's what they elected. Simple people. Simpler times.

[hot bison]

A one which can evaluate. Not necessarily a complicated one.

[feral river]

well ? I mean what statistics you need.

[hot bison]

One which can provide info in this regard. Are you asking me if it's hypothetical?

[feral river]

I just confused because I don't know what type of statistics you need.

[covert raptor]

Don't you think it has to do with the survival of the fittest? Nobody honestly cares about the people's plight except for their self interests. Your issue is not with China, but human nature in general.

[drifting shale]

well, may I?

[hot bison]

A simple answer from people who have made their choice. No duress. No complications.

[feral river]

well we don't have those stuff because it's not allowed.

[hot bison]

Well. You are cynical. Rightfully so. You are partially correct. The reason why I oppose these behaviors is not because it's from China. But because I find them inhumane and irrational

[hot bison]

Ofc. Join.

[hot bison]

Indeed.

[covert raptor]

Only makes sense if inhumane and irrational have objective absolute meaning

[drifting shale]

got get 10 min. to go or join

[onyx hazel]

Thanks!

I understood your point

[drifting shale]

grounhog is just a day

[hot bison]

I don't believe so. But it's admirable.

In some cases you are able to expand this i believe.

[drifting shale]

schrodringer's cat never lived, never believed

[thorny steeple]

has anybody here watched narcos

[hot bison]

It was nice talking to you folks @feral river @covert raptor

[feral river]

u too sweet❤️

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[static pivot]

[faint wing]

I have watched bro

very nice series by the way

[spice maple]

hey

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-david-wallace-get-out-gif-25240774

[summer hatch]

Hello everybody!!

[thorny steeple]

if every set is a subset of itself. isn't an empty set actually a singleton?

[vast fox]

Hello guys I have a question for you, well I am 18 now and if my english was to get graded then it would be somewhere around the C1 level. How long do you think it would take me to learn how to speak english fluently and without an accent if i spent like 3-6 hours a day practicing speach and nearly all of my partially occupied time listening to podcasts

[twilit bolt]

Not a European, so I don't have a solid understanding of the CEFRL system, but if I understand C2 to be true fluency in a given language, then I would guess around maybe 100-400 hours from your current level

once again, depends on your current level and how much time and effort you put into it

[summer parcel]

😱

[twilit bolt]

using the Alliance Francaise as a source btw

At the Alliance Française, we propose that students can expect to reach CEFR levels with the following number of cumulative hours of instruction:

A1 60–100, A2 160–200, B1 360–400, B2 560–650, C1 810–950, C2 1060–1200.

1060 - 950 = 110, and 1200 - 810 = 390

https://afleeds.org.uk/faq

[narrow fossil]

what the heck is the CEFRL system

[umbral grail]

you may never fully suppress your accent, and that's okay. alot of people do have accents. there's no set amount of time if i'm going to be incredibly honest

[narrow fossil]

Yeah even those tea and crumpets people have accents

[umbral grail]

point and laugh! 😂

[feral river]

I think IELTS is enough to validate your English skill.

I got 6.0 in 2023 dec

But never heard of CEFRL system

[thorny steeple]

yall have any advice on improving your accent? And improving English speaking and making it attractive? I have been been immersed in English and fluent but not a native…

[cyan jay]

Try watching movies or listening to music and somehow imitate how they pronounce word/s. That's mostly how I improve mine hehe.

[thorny steeple]

Thankssss <33333

[tawdry agate]

@spring zephyr bro, he is spamming everywhere

[wary plover]

[astral axle]

how do you use "a tad"? do i say "a tad bit" or just "a tad"?

please ping if you reply

[whole prism]

I want girl for Questions

[thorny steeple]

i can answer

[jade dew]

I am the biggest man here. Ask me.

[vernal current]

How do you get a golden keyboard role

[umbral grail]

a tad bit is better in most contexts but both work

its slang

"(have) you done anything today?"
"a tad but ive been chillin"

[jade dew]

Be active here 7/24.

[astral axle]

thanks

[last creek]

Love you profil

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[peak herald]

What "a tad" mean?

[vapid hare]

a bit

[thorny steeple]

cht dead

[thorny steeple]

i am a tad peckish (i am a little hungry)

ta-da

https://tenor.com/view/barbara-genshin-genshin-impact-genshin-genshin-impact-characters-barbara-gif-25548787

[thorny steeple]

1# be one of the most active members
2# help the new members with navigating stuff
3# help the admins to maintain a friendly environment
4# report to the mods if you find any problem
5#and so on

and that's what they send when they give u the role

[peak herald]

Тhx

[harsh spade]

Get a life bruh

[jade dew]

Make me

[harsh spade]

https://tenor.com/view/kidnap-ready-to-go-ready-packing-revenge-gif-14345059

Ok

[jade dew]

Wtf

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

r u goin' to take her on a date? 📅

[harsh spade]

Lol, Actually this would be a date in some way, coz she has stockholm syndrome @jade dew

[jade dew]

How do you know

[twilit bolt]

Both can be used. It is slang for "a little (bit)".
Examples: "I've been doing a tab bit of work."
"I'm a tad good at this."

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/my-demon-mydemon-songkang-song-kang-kimyoujung-gif-2556566925239222501

u 2 in future

[harsh spade]

Coz I'm a stalker just like u or prolly better than u.

[harsh spade]

[jade dew]

Naa u can't surpass me in that

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/my-demon-mydemon-songkang-song-kang-kimyoujung-gif-2556566925239222501

the conversation is getting romantic

[harsh spade]

I'll give you that.

[harsh spade]

Make it serious I'm uncomfortable

[thorny steeple]

um, moving to the next topic

[jade dew]

Wiki-wifi stfu

[rustic viper]

topic?

[toxic jay]

political ?

[wispy lintel]

roblox iz da best game eva ❌ 🧢

https://tenor.com/view/lagosta-lagosta-hub-no-refunds-butter-dog-cute-gif-21722634

[umbral grail]

a little/ a bit

[thorny steeple]

I ve been through that before

[stoic sedge]

can anybody tell me if I should use consists of or consists in

[main bison]

Free texas

https://tenor.com/view/texas-gif-24404828

[thorny steeple]

Anyone familiar with world politics

Info Chan tell me what you think of international security organisations

Shart

[broken walrus]

can you guys give me some advices to enhance my english speaking?+ I want someone to practice speaking with so I wanted to know how voice channels works (what can I do to join a voice channel with anyone?)

[upbeat mesa]

WTF IS A KILOMETRE🗣🗣🗣🗣

[formal scaffold]

sup bro can I call you ? I can speak arabic

[broken walrus]

you can

[thorny steeple]

real

fact checked by real american patriots

[upbeat mesa]

Elections this year will be exciting it'll be an old man vs an orange old man🗣

[manic juniper]

USA went from a two party system to a two colours system

White vs orange

[main bison]

knock knock motherfather
I heard u found oil

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-9338065310670481220

[twin stream]

the name tag said, serious chat, and i saw this how the first word

yep, definitely, serious chat

[vagrant swan]

RRRAAAAHHHHHH WTFFF IS KILOMETERRRRRR

[cinder quartz]

What is the difference between kebab and lula kebab

[late marsh]

Bring the milk dad and come back, pls dont DISSAPEAR

[jolly agate]

Just try asking something

[hidden prawn]

hi guys

[left shuttle]

Hiii guys

[umbral grail]

very intellictual conversation

[covert raptor]

who joins their lgbt community
Liberty Guns Beers and Trump 🤣

I'm not lgbt though 🤣

[vagrant loom]

Land of the free, home of the brave🦅🇺🇸‼️

[covert raptor]

America declining. China is slowly stealing that title.

[vagrant loom]

well they ain't got it yet🗣️

[covert raptor]

You think China is becoming free? 🤣

I meant economy China is getting ahead

[vagrant loom]

with over 1 billion people they better be😭

[covert raptor]

It seems they like to sit and be told what to do.

It's like worker bees in the hive

[vagrant loom]

well whatever they're doing it's def working

[covert raptor]

Yeah working like sweat shops all the time. Inhumane slavery conditions. It is clearly working but is it ethical, is the question?

[vagrant loom]

i feel like that's a question for them

who am i to tell them what to do💀

[covert raptor]

Yeah the question has been answered way beyond time

By them

💀

[low oracle]

….

🤣

[vagrant loom]

china plz plz plz plz stop🥺

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/我们怀念他-我們懷念他-懷念-怀念-主席-gif-22955757

[low oracle]

being chill

[unkempt shale]

Hey I am reporting you for this

This is violation of the rights

🤓🫵🏼

[covert raptor]

Hello Beijing 👋

• Xi Jinping

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gamer-gif-18242177

[low oracle]

i am Chinese so it’s ok

[low oracle]

🤣

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-gif-23976170

[covert raptor]

they have to work hard, so you can be free with no work 💀

[covert raptor]

^

[low oracle]

Social credit [phone]

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-guy-dancing-with-skewers-meme-gif-13826103983749266566

[glad patio]

How is he doing that??

oml

[low oracle]

科目三🥳🥳🥳

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/china-meme-woman-man-gif-26740315

Hey I advise you not go any further

[fast vine]

the seriousness is almost too much

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/netflix-netflix-and-chill-intro-letter-n-gif-17908068

[fast vine]

okay what are you trying to do

stawp

by the name of the law

oh

[unkempt shale]

Bro infochan this aint instagram reels

💀

[fast vine]

not me cuz im innocnet

[unkempt shale]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-gif-12280691131005323983

[vagrant loom]

right who is we....😭

[covert raptor]

We went back to insta reels and room temperature IQ conversations

[fast vine]

you announcing that you deleted the proof makes it worse 😭

[vagrant loom]

0 iq play

[covert raptor]

birds of the same feather flock together ☠️

[vagrant loom]

bro got an android😭

[fast vine]

hey hey hey what's wrong with android!

[vagrant loom]

proof or broke

[fast vine]

android doesn't mean you're broke 😔

[glad patio]

Same

[fast vine]

this is discrimination and I will not stand by it!

[vagrant loom]

am i allowed to correct grammar in this server or no

[glad patio]

Ofc

[vagrant loom]

bro got defensive😭

[unkempt shale]

123-4567-89101

[covert raptor]

kids, isn't it time to read bed time story and sleep

[thorny steeple]

Sheesh, people made this channel a joke

[inner canyon]

god

[robust hearth]

Your name backwards

[grave temple]

so true lmao

last week i was furiously debating against flat earthers, moon landing deniers

[gaunt bronze]

How can ppl believe that

It’s too funny sometimes lol 😭

[vernal current]

heyo

[peak basalt]

Heii bro what's good ?

[vernal current]

Nothin much

[peak basalt]

What time in your place ?

[vernal current]

10am

[thorny steeple]

International Mother Language Day

Wed, Feb 21, 2024

Value your mother tongue and be proud of your roots…

[grave temple]

💀

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/peppe-gif-16982270732562077650

Everything that you've ever dreamed of
Disappearing when you wake up

the night feels too long

[broken birch]

How many international days exist

Im lost

[thorny steeple]

everyday is special,if you can make it :)

special

and celebrate it

in conclusion,idk

everyday ig

[broken birch]

I'll Google it lmao

[thorny steeple]

lmho

wait

lemme cook

[broken birch]

god

There are a whole website lmao

[thorny steeple]

<3

[thorny steeple]

Bluetooth,wife, alarm notifications

[broken birch]

Chinese language and an Arabic language image lmao

[thorny steeple]

bro got everything

[broken birch]

Hahahahahha

[thorny steeple]

<3

what's ur native language btw?

[broken birch]

Arabic

[thorny steeple]

may i ask

oh

"kai fa haluka"

[broken birch]

Alhamdulillah

[thorny steeple]

is how are you in arabic if I'm not mistaken

[thorny steeple]

Alhamdulillah

la for no

then what is for yes?

[broken birch]

Well its Arabic but no one speaks like this these days

[broken birch]

Depends

There are soooo many dialects now

[thorny steeple]

they use 'hello"?

[thorny steeple]

oh

[thorny steeple]

i know that

https://tenor.com/view/bang-chan-channie-chan-vlive-stray-kids-skz-gif-24602330

[broken birch]

That caused the original dialect to disappear

[broken birch]

That kaifa haluka you just said is not usable now unless you are an Arabic language teacher

[broken birch]

Sometimes people laugh on you when you use the original dialect

[thorny steeple]

ig I'm a teacher from now

[thorny steeple]

then what sentence do you use to ask how r u

[broken birch]

And also some dialects i don't consider them Arabic cuz its not understandable ever for natives

[broken birch]

Kef halak

[thorny steeple]

is Urdu/ Persian also considered an Arabic
cuz they also use arabic alphabets

[thorny steeple]

Kef halak
seems I've heard it somewhere

[broken birch]

Yk most dialects didn't change much and you can write it like how the original dialect is

[thorny steeple]

oh

what about the Egyptian dialects?

i have read that it has some of its own words

[broken birch]

Yeah each dialect does have some

The Egyptian one is not too far, they don't use some of the alphabet in their speech but they do in writing

Our language is so wide and complicated but once you learn a dialect that is a bit close to the original you can understand the remaining

[thorny steeple]

i can only read arabic with subscripts

arabic calligraphy is so beautiful

tbh

[broken birch]

Agreed

[thorny steeple]

~~ I really want to cry rn~~

[broken birch]

Why

[thorny steeple]

*The sunlight on my face

It's time that I embrace

These moments in time

Can't waste our lives
It repeats again, it's too much for me to take

If the seasons never changed then

We'd never appreciate them

All that empty words, I hate them

Because nothing stays the same

It seems simple on the surface*

blah blah blah

anyway, moving to the next topic

https://tenor.com/view/skz-stray-kids-skzoo-bang-chan-chan-gif-2999239983732323198

[broken birch]

Its 7:34am in my country

[thorny steeple]

bro

u slept enough hours?

[broken birch]

Ig

I slept at 10pm yesterday

Or 11

[thorny steeple]

i slept at 9

around

having a headache for the last few days

i don't feel anything
but it just gets worse at night

[broken birch]

Bro i can barely breathe 💀

[thorny steeple]

💀

[broken birch]

Asthma works hard in winter

[thorny steeple]

I was finding the spelling of "asthma" thx

silent letters makes it harder

[broken birch]

I went directly to Google translate

[thorny steeple]

lmhooo

[real monolith]

is anyone here that is in Product and Marketing Executive position

[thorny steeple]

I'm not

[maiden radish]

Me neither, I'm a software engineer. If you have a question about a translation I might be able to help you get pretty close, I have a pretty good idea of what the QA team comes up with to make things that I say more user-friendly

but that might be a bit of a stretch

[copper tide]

Hello 👋

[copper tide]

No thanks we all have chat gpt 4 version

[maiden radish]

Yeah, chat GPT is pretty good for that kind of thing for sure

[copper tide]

Ans I used to give the answere to users on quera

Qoura I think

I don't think I forget the name

[maiden radish]

Quora, yeah

I'm familiar with it

[copper tide]

You said you are a software engineer right ?

[maiden radish]

Yeah, you got it

[copper tide]

Where u from ?

And can u tell me about ur experience please

[maiden radish]

I lived in California my whole life, but I moved to Texas after I got my computer science degree

Absolutely, what do you want to know exactly?

[copper tide]

Are u working in any company

[maiden radish]

Yeah, I was promoted to senior software engineer last year after working for this company for 3 years. It'll be 4 years next month

I work on software for scientists to keep track of their research projects and the accounting that goes along with that

[copper tide]

Cool 👍

Well I just know html, css and JavaScript and about the WordPress elementor and work in my mother's brother company called encoded soft

[maiden radish]

Well if you know javascript I think you'll find it pretty easy to learn just about anything else

some people argue that web developers will struggle to learn some of the memory management languages like C and C++, but I don't think it's that steep of a learning curve

anyway just remember when you're applying for jobs, don't say that's all you know. You'll pick up any programming language you need really quick, so don't be afraid to apply for places that are using a programming language you've never used before

[copper tide]

Yeah I know, I don't be afraid, I always research on the a. I tool for programing and web dev

A. I help a lot

[maiden radish]

Yeah for sure

[copper tide]

Well I just trying to do affiliate marketing

For extra income

Can you give me the advice

Cause you have the experience

[maiden radish]

Sure, what do you want to know?

[copper tide]

I just want to host a e-commerce website where users can see products information about the product then , if he click on the buy button then he jumped to other website where the products are sells , I will also promote the products on Instagram and I have just 16 followers I am afraid how can I promote products ? I mean is there any web site where I can sell my affiliate products

I need clients

@maiden radish

[maiden radish]

Well that kind of falls under the category of owning your own business, and I can't really give much advice there. I was hired on to an existing company to fix bugs and add new features to an existing giant software project they're already maintaining. Marketing your own app can be a pretty difficult job in itself, and there's not really a website I can think of where you can advertise that kind of thing easily

if I were to freelance, I wouldn't know where else to start besides social media like instagram and twitter either

[copper tide]

Does you make the bug into feature 👀

[maiden radish]

Lmao yeah totally, that's called job security 😂

Nah, there's always something to work on. When I was a beginner I thought "But what do you do when the software doesn't have any bugs?" and the answer is there are ALWAYS bugs and there are ALWAYS new features

it's an endless cycle and it's something you have to experience to see I suppose

[covert raptor]

Did you get through in some recruiting agency or the hard way to land the job after graduation?

[maiden radish]

Nah, no agency. You have to watch out for agencies, they get you a job fast, but also they might get you contract work instead of a steady job and they'll also take a portion of your pay. But I also understand why people choose them

it can be hard to get a job in your area, so a recruiting agency will probably guarantee that, but generally if you're willing to relocate, then you won't have to use a recruiting agency

[copper tide]

Is agency better

[maiden radish]

and the job quality will be better

No, it's generally worse

you get harder jobs with limited time periods and less pay

[copper tide]

I work on the web dev and software agency

[maiden radish]

I wouldn't recommend it

[copper tide]

Then I need to try to get the job from the company

[maiden radish]

Yes exactly. Practice the interview questions with Hacker Ranks

and then apply for a bunch of jobs until someone gives you a shot

[covert raptor]

Yeah I agree. There's not much control about the future. But it's good in terms of experience for those who are just beginning and want something quick to get their feet wet.

[maiden radish]

Yes, that's the positive of it of course

once you have experience you'll get jobs easily

but try to avoid it if you can, you'll be much happier

[covert raptor]

What's the current job market rn? There has been a lot of layoffs and stuff

[maiden radish]

For me it's really good, everyone is desperate for senior software engineers. But it's always the same story with junior software engineers. Everyone is afraid to take risks on someone with no experience

the layoffs are generally for front-end engineers also

I recommend that you learn full-stack development

the more skills you have, the more valuable you are, just like anything else

[covert raptor]

I learned that degrees don't matter much next to experience (unless you've graduated from ivy leagues, then ofc).

[maiden radish]

Yeah, that's true, but it does go a long way towards getting your foot in the door

[covert raptor]

There are a lot of these folks. I guess the barrier of entry is pretty easy.

[trim lotus]

i think degree is not so definite

[maiden radish]

but my oldest brother didn't get his degree. He got A+ certified and he nailed the interviews

[covert raptor]

Trade?

[maiden radish]

He's a networking engineer now, I'm not sure about any details besides that

no trade school though if that's what you mean

[covert raptor]

It helps you later, when it comes to qualification. I mean, I think it gets you to the door.

[maiden radish]

Oh do you mean trade older brothers? I s that the joke? 😂

And yeah, if you have a degree more people will consider your for interviews if you don't have experience

[covert raptor]

Trade school. No I didn't mean that hah!

[maiden radish]

Ah okay. Yeah, no trade school, he learned on his own. He's kind of a super genius if you ask me

he's pretty insane

but after that, there's not that much of an advantage. Sometimes people use it as an excuse to pay you less if you don't have a degree I guess

but that's not that common

[trim lotus]

then,you should balance the value of its.because it's also need you invest your time.whatever technology or degree

[maiden radish]

Yeah, unfortunately there's not really any way to tell in advance. You can always try to apply for jobs while getting your degree and if you get a solid job you can drop out and save your money

[covert raptor]

If you both were working together, in an event of layoffs, would you think your brother will stay?

[trim lotus]

that's what im trying now.it's make me so tired

[maiden radish]

That's valid too

and yes, slimjim, he's more valuable to his current company than most of the people with degrees

he really puts them to shame

[covert raptor]

So you'll go then 😂

[maiden radish]

Oh, nah, I'm a fantastic programmer too 😏

I was promoted faster than anyone else in the company

senior software engineer is supposed to take 4 years, I got it in 3

[trim lotus]

that's definitly faster than general population

[covert raptor]

Get on board Nursing and Physician rapid 6 months boot camps?

[maiden radish]

Yeah, those do work I think. Nurses make okay money, but it's also a pretty stressful and time-consuming job

[trim lotus]

it's depend on you.you need to consider what value it takes if you invest time

[maiden radish]

Programming is great because you don't really deal with people, you just turn on music or a youtube video and then fix software bugs

[covert raptor]

It's quite funny. I have been hit with adverts of online nursing boot camps.

[maiden radish]

Hahaha yeah, always a back-up I suppose 😂

[trim lotus]

i konw there are a lots of ads on other fields

[maiden radish]

we'll always be short on nurses

[thorny steeple]

||topic||

[covert raptor]

Seems like something for people who aren't interested in people. Engineering in general though.

[thorny steeple]

engineers get a lot of money

from their job

[covert raptor]

Always helps. My Plan B

[thorny steeple]

lawyers too

[maiden radish]

Yeah exactly, computer science quickly became one of the most popular degrees after it started paying well

[covert raptor]

Yeah, but these ones don't make sense. How could someone learn nursing online?

[maiden radish]

you do learn everything in class first, then you do a bit of an internship on the job where you put catheters in actual patients etc.

[trim lotus]

but actually lots of people think so.it's almost saturation

[maiden radish]

Yeah, I might be a little biased, but I don't think people like you or me have to worry about saturation. Those people without the passion for it will give up very easily and won't get the jobs you and me can handle

[covert raptor]

Is it how it works?

[trim lotus]

hahaha

[maiden radish]

Yeah, for nursing you still learn about drug interactions and the steps for doing those kinds of things on exams first

I had to do medical terminology and chemistry to become a pharmacy technician

[trim lotus]

yeah,i agree

[maiden radish]

that was my job before getting my CS degree. And yeah exactly, hong, don't stress about the saturation

[covert raptor]

I don't know how. Never been in that department. I mostly thought there used to be (perhaps dummy) patients to interact with in person.

[maiden radish]

Hahaha yeah I've seen a couple memes of the dummies they use for CPR training

[covert raptor]

It's a socially oriented job

[trim lotus]

yes,i live in china and there are a huge amount of people invest there time to cs,but many of them just for
money.

[covert raptor]

Oh dang

[covert raptor]

Yeah, especially after the bear bug, a lot of people were jumping ships into CS for remote options and all

[maiden radish]

Yeah, same old story. If you hold the values of St. GNUcius in your heart, you'll get much more job opportunities than they will

actually one of my co-workers moved here from China. He got his bachelor's in computer science over there, then he got his masters in Chicago, and now he works with me

[trim lotus]

yeah

[trim lotus]

st.gnucius?i nerver heard that

[maiden radish]

Hahaha yeah, one of the original developers who was part of the free software movement. Richard Stallman. It's mostly a joke. He wrote a bunch of programs for the GNU project, like emacs

[trim lotus]

oh!seems i need to learn something about it.

[maiden radish]

Yeah, it's good to know a bit about Linux and the people behind it I suppose, admittedly I impress my boss by bringing him up, but I'm not sure how important it actually is

Anyway I'm at a tech conference right now and it ends tomorrow, so I gotta get up at a decent time to check out of the hotel hahaha

it was good talking to all of you!

[trim lotus]

me too.and good luck

[maiden radish]

Same!

you guys got this, believe me

[trim lotus]

i'm gonna add these advice into my collect

[feral river]

Linux is pretty useful when it comes to server management, some os like centos focus on performance

Or you can use something like kali Linux to hack other computers 💀

Compared to Windows, which core and features including GUI, services, and other features itself is so redundant regardless you want to optimize or disable it, Linux has a light core, an efficient service/application management which you can focus on what you want to use especially servers.

The common point of Linux is lacking of support by specific applications sometimes you may need something like wine to run a windows application on Linux which is not efficient and unstable.

And it’s not that easy to use, sometimes you need to use CLI to manage the os and process so for some newbies it’s a nightmare

[formal scaffold]

Vm ware

[waxen marsh]

is this really a serious chat?

[feral river]

That stuff uses more resources like memory and CPU etc.🤣

[modest nest]

idk

[waxen marsh]

oke

[thorny steeple]

Hello everyone

Who want to really serious chat especially about social science

[main bison]

i stand with Trump

trump 2024❤️🇺🇲

[formal scaffold]

I tried it 10 years ago with a dual corp and 4 gb ram xD

for Kali linux

[thorny steeple]

Why

[main bison]

he's a wise man

https://tenor.com/view/yes-thumbs-up-gif-10976437182247786486

[feral river]

Will biden run for reelection ?

[main bison]

Definitely

sleepy joe

[main bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047115243500875819/1190020969646018620/youtube-nZ5n4RVZWsE.mp4?ex=65e0e1e4&is=65ce6ce4&hm=30985cd92b3ae4e4bf1433be80afd959db69afe4dfbf912025a7512dfae73c1d&

[thorny steeple]

h,mmmmm do you think that life would have been better if people stopped judging? I think judgement is quite vital if you are concerned about the safety of your own

i think it is good to judge but it becomes imbecilic to show ur judgements it gives a

a sense of immaturity and a mannerless attitude

wvwryone judges

its nothing wrong people should be judged but not socially

chat = dead

meh nvm

[atomic hound]

Hi every one

[formal pilot]

Damn damn I can't imagine pronouncing this name in public

[maiden radish]

How important it is even for a fullstack developer*

of course all our servers run linux, but I'm not a database associate. I can count the times I SSH'd into our server on 2 hands

[vast fox]

How would you rate the bold voice app for practicing accent? Does somebody here use it and if you do do you mention some improvement?

[grave temple]

omg

jesus christ legit carried all the sins of humanity on his cross

died for our sins

[finite basin]

Quite interesting!!
So it's about judging but without showing or let's say not building an act/action based on that biased judgment of one's.

U know when ppl keep saying things like: “no judgment here and it's a free and safe space to express emotions, ideas, and perceptions” I feel that it's a passive state.

meaning, they don't really do this although they claim to. And it's not bcz ppl are lying or being deceivers but simply because the humanistic brain can't perceive any new data without analyzing it and also comparing it to the previous data that is restored, to give the mind a comprehensive understanding of what's going on

In conclusion: we all judge as you said, either consciously or unconsciously. We just choose to function based on it or not 🫱🏼‍🫲🏼✨

[sonic terrace]

Fr

[covert raptor]

What's your tech stack? Maybe I missed it

[covert raptor]

It can be staged. I know Christians who converted to Islam because of near death experiences, dreams and so on.

That side is not talked about as it will affect their religious cause.

[maiden radish]

It's a mix of Oracle ADF Java on the old technology and Spring Boot Java + Angular + Typescript on the new services we're writing. Oracle SQL for DB

it interfaces with a program that was originally written in COBOL and was recently converted to C#

although converted is a strong word

it looks identical to the old COBOL application, but just run through a transpiler that some random Belgian company ran

it's actually hilarious

[covert raptor]

I do Java dev myself. Thinking of trying out Spring Boot

[maiden radish]

Yeah, that's the flavor of the month at the moment. It seems like they're favoring Kotlin next, but my company will probably take a long time before even considering switching to Kotlin

[covert raptor]

Quite odd. Is this always the case or they're just going with wherever the wind blows?

[grave temple]

wait hold on

i never referenced the video

[maiden radish]

Yeah, you know how it is, always new buzz words in tech. We try not to be one of those companies that switches fast though, so that's why we're sticking with Spring Boot for now and ignoring the fact that a lot of devs are pushing Kotlin

[grave temple]

im just saying by carrying and dying on the cross, jesus died for our sins

idk where you are coming at debunking other people's beliefs but sure

you do you

[feral river]

It has differences between judgements, some of judgements are considerable and reasonable which will not escalate the conflict between ppl but some are not. Good judgement improves diversity and benefit ppl from different ideas and perspectives.

But some judgements based on stance, interest, especially political and religious views, I don’t think it’s even a conversation but an ongoing futile conflict or propaganda.

I think it’s a place that we can freely express, talk, share and discuss, not starting useless judgement against others.

[feral river]

Who will establish a server on windows shit 🤣😂

Wait I did that before… for a Minecraft server 💀

[thorny steeple]

*sometimes It's too much for to take
but If the seasons never changed then

We'd never appreciate them:)
All the empty words, we hate them
Because we are afraid of that nothing would stay the same
It seems simple on the surface
Just to go and find your purpose
you never wanted to hurt them
I guess times the one to blame* :)

https://open.spotify.com/track/6aUiLphVsi9ZIjpt3kRuEm?si=8YEYSba3SA2rJ6grQHaC6g

[thorny steeple]

you wrote really good tbh👍

[thorny steeple]

😂damn really?

Christianity and Islam are pretty similar to each other, aren't they?

[vernal current]

I got a favor to ask

[thorny steeple]

sure ask

i hope i can answer

[vernal current]

Uhhh its related to making a critique about an article

Imma make my critique

[thorny steeple]

oh

[vernal current]

Yall need to judge it

[thorny steeple]

best of luck!

[vernal current]

But not right now imma eat first

[thorny steeple]

sure!

[thorny steeple]

have a great meal, mate!

[vernal current]

imma send it like 3-4hrs late

[thorny steeple]

okie dokie

[vernal current]

Thx

[thorny steeple]

anytime

[strange coral]

afaik, yes and that's all I can say about it. My knowledge is not that deep regarding the similarity between both religions