🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

More importantly, Spread love and kindness across the world to be happy

[keen wraith]

=]

[thorny steeple]

Finally, It took a long

than how people make a nation,believes and religion too

[formal scaffold]

If 2,9 billion muslim were Isis that would be a sight to see

[silver vault]

Do you mean that people who reject their religion are making a mistake?

[keen wraith]

indeed

[formal scaffold]

Or if muslim were ISIS before the USA met us

[thorny steeple]

no one is and never be

We need a system to be live longer constantly.

[feral river]

what ? 2.9 bil muslims ?

[silver vault]

Btw guys I wanted to know why people support Palestine

[thorny steeple]

We need to be logical

[feral river]

how ?

[silver vault]

By your standard, ig

[manic juniper]

1,9

[keen wraith]

hm

[formal scaffold]

I added a whole billion lol

[thorny steeple]

wtf how and where

[formal scaffold]

I made a mistake

[thorny steeple]

Scientific tech and information tech are our obvious achievement that made success in making paradise.

But still unfortunately the digital divide exists

[formal scaffold]

Epstein 😉

[thorny steeple]

the pedophile island?

[formal scaffold]

Steven hawkins tasted paradise fr sure

[manic juniper]

Damn Christians diminished by 200 millions since last time

[formal scaffold]

Yeee

[silver vault]

How did he even manage to do that

[thorny steeple]

You want to go? lol

[formal scaffold]

Chiechi

[thorny steeple]

ok wtf why there is more Islam than Hinduism

[feral river]

well ? science is just science, it can be used by bad guys and it can be used by good person

[manic juniper]

Ethnic religions ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

[feral river]

but it doesn't mean that science is terrible

[formal scaffold]

To bomb it?? XD

[thorny steeple]

haha!

[feral river]

even some religion based on science

[thorny steeple]

Time to feed → dropping bombs

[formal scaffold]

Leave the bombing to me I'm muslim

[thorny steeple]

I think so

[thorny steeple]

like ?

[keen wraith]

fr

[silver vault]

Why do you sound so surprised lol? Hinduism is just predominant in India and Nepal

[thorny steeple]

Could it be you can show me suicidal bombing attack more instense than Japan?!

[hallow tendon]

study scriptures. You can't remove anything from them, not a word - so just read and compare.
+++ how many prophet wrote Quran? How long? How many prophesies were written and were fulfilled and so on. And then compare it with the Bible or even Tanakh. It's a long and interesting journey.

[formal scaffold]

That's haram tho

[silver vault]

Sounds boring to me

[thorny steeple]

well as much india has the worlds largest population in world

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

The Han Chinese are the world's largest single ethnic group, constituting over 19% of the global population in 2011.[85] The world's most-spoken languages[a] are English (1.132B), Mandarin Chinese (1.117B), Hindi (615M), Spanish (534M) and French (280M). More than three billion people speak an Indo-European language, which is the largest language family by number of speakers. Standard Arabic is a language with no native speakers, but the total number of speakers is estimated at 274 million people.[86]

The largest religious categories in the world as of 2020 are estimated as follows: Christianity (31%), Islam (25%), Unaffiliated (16%) and Hinduism (15%).[87]

[thorny steeple]

But actually the haram can turn into halal depending on the political situation?

[thorny steeple]

ok which one says to make a Islamic State that kill women and kids

[formal scaffold]

Laws of war are these:
Dont harm the envirement
Dont kill uncapable fighters, women, kid, those who surrender
Dont backstab
No Torture
Dont use fire weapons except as a a retaliation

[silver vault]

Yes and it is fetching benefits by demolishing mosques that were built upon the ruins of pre-existing temples

[formal scaffold]

That's why I follow islam not muslims

[feral river]

that's just an excuse for justifying their action is crime.

actually you see almost there is no one followed the law.

[thorny steeple]

the exception is scary

[feral river]

a law without punishment = a toliet paper.

[thorny steeple]

This is nothing but the loophole, isn't this

[feral river]

no one cares.

[formal scaffold]

The law is law, if someone use it to justify then its his mistake

[hallow tendon]

Do you want me to check up the verses? Maybe there aren't any. Maybe. Because there are verses about murder of unbelievers and those who left Islam. I'm not really sure about the last part though.

[feral river]

well but the law doesn't have any enforce measures who will care then ?

[formal scaffold]

Forgot to mention wars should be carried until some condition has been met

[feral river]

I follow the law because if I don't I will get punished

[thorny steeple]

so people who are smart in law can use this exception to avoid punishment and make achieve their goal for fully their irresponsible desire for satisfications.

@formal scaffold

[feral river]

I think no one care a law without any enforce measures

[formal scaffold]

God is the best enforcer, then comes the muslims surrounding those beside them

If they dont fear god they are no muslims

[feral river]

such as Russia invaded Ukraine because Russia is permanent member of the UN security concil and it has veto power it can reject anything against Russia

[thorny steeple]

ok boddy i would love to have a full debate about this later
sorry for not giving my introduction
i am rory
i am from india
and i will see guys later

[feral river]

so they did.

[feral river]

but jews are not muslims, I'm also not

[grave kestrel]

What is going on

[formal scaffold]

Possible, it can be used to make us look good

[feral river]

there is no problem if that law only used for regulate muslim

[grave kestrel]

What the topic guys?

[feral river]

but don't use that regulate other people then

[formal scaffold]

Jews were muslim I believe

[grave kestrel]

Hmm

[manic juniper]

Zalmoxis

[grave kestrel]

interesting

[feral river]

okay then they skipped the law, what do you guys do ?

[grave kestrel]

I'm law student, how can I help u guys?

[formal scaffold]

By our definition if u follow any prophet of god u are muslim

[thorny steeple]

bro you will start ww3 right here but you are right

[grave kestrel]

tf? in ur dream

[feral river]

well is that hard to respect other's differences ?

[formal scaffold]

I can speak fr myself and islam not muslims, i follow the rules to the best I can

[feral river]

that's pretty weird then

[hallow tendon]

I don't think it's a good idea to discuss this topic here my friend. We are not alone and we should respect people about. But you can find a lot of information on your own. I only can help with gospel of Matthew )))

[keen wraith]

they were

[feral river]

well fine but I don't think other people would care especially other groups doesn't recognized themselve as muslim

[thorny steeple]

Simple theory : Russia has enormous natural resources as other countries than Russia never be against by feeling fear sanctions that lead to lack of natural resources produced in Russia.

[grave kestrel]

Ik, but if they don't believe Mohammed then NO

[keen wraith]

''were''

[formal scaffold]

Was just replying to the one who asked lol

Thx tho

[manic juniper]

It's more that they have nuclear warheads and mostly Europeans and Americans are involved, but they don't want to get involved in an all out war or to have them use nuclear warheads

[feral river]

WE ARE PAYING RUSSIA! damn I don't like to pay their bills LOL

[manic juniper]

Ukraine used to have nuclear warheads too

[hallow tendon]

??? what? ))))

[manic juniper]

Not having them anymore was one of the reasons Russia thought it could attack Ukraine

[hallow tendon]

ok ))))))))))))))

[grave kestrel]

So, why do u guys mix Law into religion? @formal scaffold @feral river

[feral river]

if Ukraine kept those nukes, Russia will never dare to start invasion on them.

[thorny steeple]

It is totally because to become thriving their economy.

[formal scaffold]

As I said islam is to follow a prophet, from Adam to muhamed peace be upon them all

[feral river]

I'm talking that war law he said and I'm saying that is pointless because no enforce measures included, but he said god is the enforce measures.

[thorny steeple]

I guess even Russia have remarkable side we can feel curious.

[grave kestrel]

Despite Russia's claimed annexation of Crimea, which the UN General Assembly rejected as invalid, the Government of Ukraine in 2014 reaffirmed its 1994 decision to accede to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear-weapon state.

[manic juniper]

Yeah, they would've limited themselves to political influence

[formal scaffold]

I think even with police laws enforcment will never be complete n perfect

[feral river]

yes but it has enforce measures, unlike war law.

[grave kestrel]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

[thorny steeple]

Any countries belong to dark side and light side

[grave kestrel]

@formal scaffold Bro stfu

[thorny steeple]

We are the almost same

[formal scaffold]

True

[feral river]

actually if you violated the law in here, there will be hell to pay

[grave kestrel]

@formal scaffold u just yapping

[thorny steeple]

human are human, who can be against this

[manic juniper]

Well yes, Russia is/was somewhat dependant on Ukraine because it was part of its sphere of influence and a trade partner

[grave kestrel]

@thorny steeple stfu bro

[formal scaffold]

Be respectful

Or just block me

[hallow tendon]

hm... I suppose it's you personal opinion isn't?

[grave kestrel]

If u don't know anything about law and religion pls shut up

[formal scaffold]

No its islamic and quranic belief

[feral river]

Russia is dependent on CHINA! get away from me damn

we wanna trade with america

[grave kestrel]

@formal scaffold Bro, r u living in afghanistan?

[manic juniper]

It depends on the EU too, it's such a bad situation

[thorny steeple]

and the border of the promise between NATO and former Warsaw Treaty Organization.

[formal scaffold]

That 2 the third will be yr last

[manic juniper]

Why can't they start drilling and extracting gas and oil in Cyprus

[minor charm]

Russia?

[manic juniper]

Wasn't it all verbal though? Was it ever put on paper? Plus the Warsaw Pact doesn't exist anymore so there is that

[grave kestrel]

Then stop yapping

[thorny steeple]

Maybe it is related to international law

[manic juniper]

No, the EU

We know that there are deposits in Cyprus or at least in its territorial waters, they should drill there instead of depending on the Middle East, USA or Russia

[minor charm]

It belongs to turkey

[grave kestrel]

Read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

[manic juniper]

Only part of it lol it was found in independent Cyprus

[hallow tendon]

oh. I see. I'm sorry. It's just sounds.... wow crazyashly

[manic juniper]

Why, I have relatives from Ukraine, I know it all

[formal scaffold]

Haha Ikr

[thorny steeple]

The truth is in dark but I feel still existing. And you know this "Pacta sunt servanda" In field of law, even it was verbal, they are legally bound.

[manic juniper]

Cyprus is part of the EU

[grave kestrel]

What if they faking? r they political? no? then read it, maybe they didn't tell u about something

[manic juniper]

What are they supposed to fake?

[grave kestrel]

@manic juniper u won't lose anything

[grave kestrel]

My bad

[manic juniper]

I'm asking

[thorny steeple]

We need to know the international law and to discuss about too complicated politics topic, we seem to need to know prerequisite knowledge of it.

[grave kestrel]

a body of rules established by custom or treaty and recognized by nations as binding in their relations with one another.

[minor charm]

Bro what

[manic juniper]

? Do you not know that there are two states in Cyprus?

[thorny steeple]

yep

[grave kestrel]

Just leave it

[manic juniper]

There is Northern Cyprus and Cyprus

[minor charm]

Cyprus does not cooperate with NATO, most of the resources go to Turkey

[grave kestrel]

Indeed

[minor charm]

Cyprus is considered generally independent, and the Greeks rejected cooperation with Turkey in the extraction of resources, so this is what the Turks are doing

[grave kestrel]

@manic juniper He is right

@manic juniper Take a deep breath, this is the truth

[manic juniper]

They are two separate countries

[manic juniper]

???

Can you explain instead of being vague? Don't say anything if you have nothing to contribute

[minor charm]

Frankly speaking, this war began in the 19th century, when the definition of nationalism first appeared and the «Big Game» began on the territory of Eurasia for the right to own trade routes. Since then, there has been this stupid massacre between the countries of Europe and Russia, in which America actively joined and wrapped everything so that all this great miracle eventually came to this war in Ukraine

[formal scaffold]

I just blocked him for insulting me without saying anything informative 3 times

[grave kestrel]

Yeah lol

[grave kestrel]

Where did u get the info?

[manic juniper]

https://www.euroasia-interconnector.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/EuroAsia_Interconnector_Project_Overall_leaflet_English.pdf

How is EU Cyprus isolated if they are planning to build a giant energy infrastructure there?

[grave kestrel]

Take some info here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Cyprus

[grave kestrel]

After this, read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_problem

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/984521568375955516/1101017167824171008/403DA688-97B1-4F25-8F60-2BA8D06EF71D.gif

[manic juniper]

Where are the mentions regarding energy policies and resource management?

Why do you send random links without even reading them

[hallow tendon]

You gave me a good big issue to check up. It's confusing claim and I hope I will find out some more information. I know that in some Christian literature you can find that Christianity sometimes was called actual or real Judaism (in and around 100 AD) because it's complete fulfilment of Old testament prophesies trough the Messiah and and the will of God. But why Islam claims to be true Judaists? ... I know what I'm going to do now ))

[formal scaffold]

Tell me what u find out later it'll be informative for me too

[manic juniper]

Christianity was an offshoot of Second Temple Judaism

It was one of the many apocalyptic cults and sects of Second Temple Judaism from its century and earlier

[hallow tendon]

))) around 50-65 ad was written Matthew where you can find the future of the Temple and Jerusalem, and even more - the reason of destruction, and in 70 AD Jerusalem was destroyed and the Temple became a heap of rubble. I suppose you can find this in Mark and Luke as well... I've just finished Matthew.

[manic juniper]

I know but I'm saying it's part of a sect that already existed, just like anything really

And it diverged and diversified over time

[hallow tendon]

oh. I see. Sorry I'm not so in philology and fine terms.

[manic juniper]

Most old religions are a continuum of many religions

[thorny steeple]

To me as atheist I can find any of religions are identical.

You'll ask me like " which portion of them alike?" and I'll answer like "Your saviour physically doesn't exist and is always subject to innevitable to touch or find out "

[formal pilot]

A religious person is 98% atheist, cuz he knows all the other religions are stupid

[hallow tendon]

and, no... New testament is the consummation of the Old Testament. I was a philologist and I can say that even if you're unbeliever, atheist or whatever, you will see that new testament is consummation... really, I can't even call it continuation. Pharisees were sect - they wanted the Messiah great warrior and king but it wasn't written in the OT and it even sounds strange to expect from God something like they wanted. As I remember there are about 350 fulfilled prophecies of the Christ. So, I should check the term sect first.

[thorny steeple]

Interesting perspective. those are contradiction as concept.

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately it's often the case in world religions because they are appealing to the masses, my family's religion doesn't believe in an afterlife or saviours of any kind

[manic juniper]

Sect in the religious sense is sorta like being a Christian denomination, a very specific set of beliefs and practices of a religion (or within it)

There were many sects of Second Temple Judaism and one developed into Christianity

[thorny steeple]

I see, that means someone's advertisement to get paid from the mass.

[manic juniper]

Some use it to indicate fanaticism but it isn't the only meaning it has

[hallow tendon]

Do you mean churches?

[formal pilot]

Was there any churches in BC?

[manic juniper]

The church didn't exist yet, there were Jews with different beliefs, some of those sects went extinct, merged with other forms of Judaism, and at least one of them (or more, that merged) formed Christianity but it's difficult to say when it definitely detached from it

Christians existed before Christianity because Christianity wasn't defined yet, but they were only slightly different from other Jews at first. See it in the same way most Europeans used to share one religion, and over time they split and differentiated until they looked nothing alike

Hindus and most Europeans used to have the same beliefs once, for example

Christianity stopped being associated with Judaism once it was different enough and stopped being an ethnic religion: aka it wasn't a Jewish-only thing anymore, but had Greek, Ethiopian, Caucasian and Roman followers

[hallow tendon]

Easy to say, hard to proof my friend. Jews wanted the Christ it is true but their sect before actual Messiah were Jewish sects.

[thorny steeple]

In other words, the religion such as appealing to masses because they are exploiting innocent people for money?

[manic juniper]

Well even the Bible says Jesus told Peter to build his church, so Christians themselves admitted they exist before their first church

[hallow tendon]

)))

[manic juniper]

It's difficult to explain why it exists, it would be too simple if it was just like that, at least some form of religion are associated with healing and mystic expertise

[thorny steeple]

I have interest about mystic expertise

[manic juniper]

Shamanic and animistic religions used to place a lot of emphasis on healing and natural remedies, today they lost that meaning because of modern medicine

[hallow tendon]

You're confused i see. No. And the command to build the church doesn't mean it existed, although it existed because of His ministry and his disciples (small but it was the church already).

[manic juniper]

No religion exists all of sudden

[thorny steeple]

Because the religion is what is created by people intentionally?

[manic juniper]

It's both, intentional and unintentional

It's a collective thing usually

[thorny steeple]

somewhat, what should I say, that's why it's hard to simply get it what religion is.

[hallow tendon]

Yes. And you would be right if the TN not consummate OT and the Christ was not their Messiah. To be honest even 5 fulfilled prophesies are a lot... but more than 300 is a crazy big deal. And if you read simply biography of Christ you'll see that it like the whole history of Jews in short. It's all too tight man.

[formal scaffold]

Its not crazy to say ppl created relegion, since it can be hope for after life and stories beyond the "real" physical world we live in, or a tool to manipulate the mass

[manic juniper]

I can't see why a man would be divine when lizards too are capable of virgin birth

[thorny steeple]

Oh Skuggi thinks like me

[manic juniper]

It's more because you can create a religion out of nothing, but the way it evolves later may not be intentional

[hallow tendon]

I see, we digressed.

[formal scaffold]

Lizards?

[manic juniper]

Aspidoscelis neomexicanus for example

There are other reptiles and other animals that are capable of parthenogenesis

[thorny steeple]

Literally deserves to call it Creation.

I like creative activity asf

[hallow tendon]

and, at least there were no exiled nations for 2000 years because of lizards ))

[thorny steeple]

Creating something out of nothing

GooGoo

[formal scaffold]

Wait are we saying a human virgin birth is normal just bc a certein animal can do that?? Sure it doesn't make them divin but still

[manic juniper]

I'm saying that it's nothing special, you can evolve to do that and mammals are just limited and easily manipulated

[formal scaffold]

I don't recall somone pulling that off except Adam, if u believe in him

[manic juniper]

Lizards are kind, they would never do that

[formal scaffold]

Fr a human it's still abnormal

[hallow tendon]

I said because of!!!! ))
Jews made their choice

[thorny steeple]

Overthinking? or

[formal scaffold]

Simple observation, I didn't see how can we equate both completly

[manic juniper]

Legless reptiles did the same

Maybe even millions of years ago they spread through many continents in unknown ways

[thorny steeple]

deadly difficulty here

[formal scaffold]

I drew a big thick line between humans and animals since you know no animal has evolved close enough for me to believe in it

[hallow tendon]

For me more miracle is that Jews restored Hebrew. It's a crazy thing. Unimaginable actually. how long it was dead.... about 2500 years )))

[manic juniper]

They aren't supposed to evolve like us, natural selection is just about adapting and we took different paths

[thorny steeple]

bcz there's nothing I can do I am atheist and in addition am not completely knowledgeable of religion. how can I do lol

[manic juniper]

Legless reptiles colonised these places so far apart when the continents already were divided like today

[hallow tendon]

yeah, sure.

[thorny steeple]

Should Human categorize as one of animals?

[formal scaffold]

I personaly don't associate with them lol

[thorny steeple]

LMAO no way you lie to me because you are eating any kind of shit maybe everyday as daily routine lol

[formal scaffold]

I forgot you were a cat. No offense to u ofc 😢

[thorny steeple]

Please Note

you eat cat too

[cinder quartz]

[formal scaffold]

We do have communalaties

But plants also share common things with animals

[cinder quartz]

Hi there

[thorny steeple]

Plants are true ruler on the earth

[formal scaffold]

A second cat you guys might get along

[thorny steeple]

get along with me

[formal scaffold]

I'd pick Madagaskar thicc trees to rule it

[cinder quartz]

Probably

[thorny steeple]

You and me should be equated as should be treated as same adorable cats.

[cinder quartz]

What re u talking abt

[thorny steeple]

talking abt how cute we are as cat

[cinder quartz]

Baobab also cute

[thorny steeple]

illogical

soon afterwards you've deletede omg

[formal scaffold]

Catch me if u can xd

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

Problem?

🙂

[formal scaffold]

I thought I saw jhon cena

Must b my imagination

[thorny steeple]

Isn't it only your imagination, yes?

[formal scaffold]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Good boy. wait for feeding

[formal scaffold]

Feed me fries :3

[thorny steeple]

It affects you bad for your body

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/poo-funny-potato-chips-food-gif-3523228

[thorny steeple]

good figure

[formal scaffold]

Will never eat belgium fries again

[thorny steeple]

What's the matter with that

me never ate it btw

enough sufficient fries.

[formal scaffold]

Ig potatoes need love too 😉

Forgot this is serious chat fr a sec quick smth serious

[thorny steeple]

if vegetables with no love, it gets worse like human with no love alike

pet looks alike

[formal scaffold]

Love comes with a price, I tend to be sensitive of the words my beloved says

[thorny steeple]

is it me?

don't be sensitive I am always with you buddy

Quit being ridiculous here is serious chat.

[hallow tendon]

@formal scaffold I found only quite suspicious source of information but I did wanted to find the essence. https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Muslims-say-Jesus-was-a-Muslim-and-originally-from-the-Jews
I do not think you would like that (maybe you shall not look at that !!!!!!!!!!!!), though it's quite something that I had expected to see.
I do not believe in everything there, because I didn't check it myself. But it works for me. There are a lot of claims actually and I don't feel like reading about Ka'aba and the story of Makkah and family of Muhammad who dismissed Muhammad right away and so on... if you like you can check yourself, sorry I just have no time to go further because It seems pretty logical to me.

[formal scaffold]

That's funny ngl

Muhamed peace be upon him was illetrate based on all his ennemies and allies but its not enought proof he didn't fabricate the quran

But if he were to do that hypothetically he wouldn't go so far to scold himself or literrally belittle arabs if he wanted to incite them to his religion

Plus the only resemblance between quran and other corrupted revemation are some names they are so diffrente if he would want to claim more follower it'd make sense to copy the other revrlations and make a little twist of them

Plus the quran had a lot of scientifical and historical miracles/signes that differs from the ones in all previous books

The language was masterfully irreplicable according to muslim and non muslim arabes back then but thosr witnesses aren't solid proofs for current day ig

[hallow tendon]

I'm sorry, I ll be frank. the problem is
1 the year 600's something It's 600 years of Christianity and a couple of thousand of Judaism itself
2 Too aggressive. It's impossible even to imagine that God needs violence to make people to believe in him.
3 but it is very suits for offensive wars.
4 To claim that something is corrupted - not enough.

5 is not exist ))))) but I will check very important part - how many prophesies there are in Quran and how many fulfilled and how.
I think you meant that "Plus the quran had a lot of scientifical and historical miracles/signes that differs from the ones in all previous books"

[formal scaffold]

About the slavery part its one of the biggest misconceptions of Islam and thd fact that most islamic punishments priorities freeying slaves, and that bc slavery was Already common in the whole world to get rid of it instantly, is counter productive, gradully taking care of is the perfect solution and the biggest example is how some of the slaves in the US didn't wanna leave due to the fact that they can't fit in society instantly

[formal scaffold]

The 1st one doesn't discredit Islam.
2 crusades, god as the way portrayed in Islam is mercifull but his mercy is for everything, and doesnt exclude non humans, which is why under some circumstances war were announced for the greater good
3 sallahudin offred richard lion heart a horse as soon as he fell and refused to fight him without it, plus the laws of war in islam that uncludes killing swiftly with no pain only capable combatants that has a weamon already, if you ask me any one that carries a weapon knows well the consequences of doing it
4 idk wym its clearly enough why would I take a risk reading a book the is 50 / 50... true / wrong
5 the one in quran is in surat el rom ill send u the verse

https://youtu.be/ypXqqdPrYQQ?si=1ZHlbqKqMg0cAjU2

Watch this and you'll know what I mean

[hallow tendon]

You can not find an excuse for actions of crusades in the Bible. It's impossible, What happened to them after death is an open question.

[formal scaffold]

That prooves smth that is hard to accept as a human since we see death as the ultimate act of violence while like any tool it can be eother violent or mercifull toward the world thus why some countries practices execution

[thorny steeple]

Overdoing has potential to entail serious consequences and with no exceptions.

[formal scaffold]

U can make sm comment on the vedio I sent too

[thorny steeple]

That above is youtube. I got it

[grave kestrel]

Evaluation of strategic energy alternatives determined for Northern Cyprus document with SWOT based MCDM integrated approach
Abstract
Today, energy management is of strategic importance, and evaluating options is an important step for decision-makers in energy management. The lack of strategy for the future of Northern Cyprus in the energy sector constitutes the main motivation of this article. The application of the proposed methodology to Northern Cyprus is novel and has not been applied in any of its scientific areas before. This study proposes an integrated approach to identifying strategic energy alternatives with Multi-Criteria Decision Making (MCDM) methods based on Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats (SWOT). The proposed model has a three-stage structure; in the first stage, SWOT analysis was used for the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats of internal and external factors affecting the energy sector, along with TOWS analysis to determine alternative strategies. In the second stage, analytical network processing (ANP) was used to weight the SWOT factors, and in the third stage, fuzzy ideal solution similarity order performance (FTOPSIS) methods were used to rank alternative energy strategies. In the final results, alternative energy strategies proposed for the Northern Cyprus energy sector were ranked according to their priority values. While the most preferred energy strategy by the decision-makers was establishing an interconnected connection to the mainland, the least preferred strategy was determined as laying a natural gas pipeline to the mainland. Both options point to the strategic and geopolitical critical importance of Northern Cyprus’ location in the Eastern Mediterranean in energy transmission. On the other hand, it is gratifying that the strategy based on primary energy takes the bottom rank.

[dry fox]

Hello everyone, I am doing a project “Great Britain through the eyes of foreigners”, can you please tell us about your customs, what places you can go to, what to see, and what a foreigner sees immediately after arriving at Heathrow airport. I would be grateful for any information.

[grave kestrel]

Cyprus is a small island in the Eastern Mediterranean and has potentially rich natural gas reserves around it (Tsangas et al., 2019). Northern Cyprus marks the northern part of the island, which is divided into two by the United Nations Green Line. The administration in the south and north is independent of each other, causing different approaches to be taken in the energy field. However, an integrated energy strategy to be determined and implemented in the future would is expected to be beneficial to both parts. It can make a solid contribution to the welfare and economic growth of the island. Primary fuel is an energy generation alternative that is extremely harmful to the environment (Abbasi et al., 2022). Despite this, the energy system in Northern Cyprus is based on imported primary fuel-based electricity generation, with a minimal contribution from renewable energy sources (KIB-TEK, 2018). As a renewable energy source, only solar power is used. The technology of the installed power grid is old, polluting, and very costly (Akçaba and Eminer, 2022). In addition, the existing installed power does not meet the energy demand of the consumer. Inadequate energy management causes frequent interruptions in the country’s energy supply (Shkurko, 2022).

And long list of information

Let us now delve into the issues of Turkey and Cyprus

Hydrocarbon exploration by neighboring countries in the Mediterranean has led to increased tensions in recent years.

Oil and gas research in the Eastern Mediterranean, particularly around the island of Cyprus and in certain other locations, is of huge importance for these neighboring countries in terms of energy security.

On the other hand, Turkey's recent oil and gas research activities in the Eastern Mediterranean have put the region’s energy equilibrium on the agenda of actors actively operating there.

In this context, top global energy companies arrived in the region and began competing with one another to obtain their share of energy research and transfer projects, which are expected to be worth billions of dollars.

The energy equilibrium in the Eastern Mediterranean presents various problems but also opportunities for cooperation among the parties involved.

The following compilation by Anadolu Agency provides answers to the top 10 questions regarding this energy equilibrium:

1- Which countries are currently active and want to benefit from the energy sources of the region?
Geographically, the region is neighbored by Turkey, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), Egypt, Greece, Lebanon, Syria, Libya, Israel and southern Cyprus. All of these parties are pursuing active policies in the energy-rich region.
Despite not bordering the region, the U.S., Russia, the U.K., France and Italy also seek to maintain their influence in the region.

2- What is the estimated size of hydrocarbon reserves in the region?
According to data provided by the U.S. Geological Survey, the Levant region of the Eastern Mediterranean -- which includes Syrian coasts -- holds a reserve of 1.7 billion barrels of oil and 3.5 trillion cubic meters of natural gas.

3- Which energy companies currently operate in the Eastern Mediterranean?
Turkish Petroleum Corporation (TPAO), U.S.-based ExxonMobil and Noble Energy, France's Total, Italy's Eni energy company, South Korea’s Kogas, Qatar Petroleum, British Gas (BG) of the U.K. and Israel's Delek Drilling and Avner Oil are currently the main actors operating in the region.

4- How many parcels do natural gas and oil research regions include?
The region is composed of 13 so-called research parcels which were unilaterally announced by southern Cyprus.
Parcels 14- How many parcels do natural gas and oil research regions include?
The reg, 2 and 3 are located in the north; parcels 4,5,6,7,8,9 and 13 are in the middle whereas parcels 10, 11 and 12 are located in the south.

5- On which parcels do parties conflict on the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) in the Eastern Mediterranean?
The only regions where Turkey and TRNC's right claims do not collide with the so-called EEZ unilaterally declared by southern Cyprus are the 10th and 11th. There are still hot debates regarding all of the other parcels.

6- Which companies operate in the 13 parcels?
Italy's Eni and South Korea's Kogas have a joint license to operate in the 2nd, 3rd and 9th parcels; Eni holds 80% of the partnership whereas Kogas holds 20%.
Eni and Total have equal shares in 6th and 11th parcels. Eni is the only one with a license in the 8th parcel.
As for the 12th parcel, Israel's Delek Drilling has a 30% share, whereas Noble Energy of the U.S. and BG of the U.K. hold 35% shares respectively.
In the 10th parcel, a partnership between ExxonMobil and Qatar Petroleum currently possesses their so-called licenses. Negotiations regarding the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th and 13th parcels are ongoing.

7- What is Turkey's policy in the Eastern Mediterranean?
Turkey argues that Turkish Cypriots have equal rights with Greek Cypriots, so TRNC must benefit from the hydrocarbon resources in an equal manner.
Ankara has emphasized that it does not recognize the EEZ areas unilaterally declared by southern Cyprus, where energy companies and the U.S., U.K., France and Italy operate.
The Turkish administration has underlined that it would not allow these parties to conduct research and production operations in the areas colliding with Turkey's sea realm of authority.
In addition, Turkey has repeatedly stressed that southern Cyprus is not a state representing the whole island, so it has no right to create EEZs or tender them for contracts.
As southern Cyprus could trigger an illegal situation in the island's northern, eastern and southern areas -- where parties do not conflict on operational zones -- TRNC gave license areas to Turkish Petroleum Corporation. As a result, it reacted to southern Cyprus' attempts to create EEZs by forming parcels despite not representing the whole Island.

8- Does Turkey conduct research operations in the region?
Turkey's drilling ship Fatih (Conqueror) actively carries out research and drilling activities in the A,B,C,D,E,F and G areas which were licensed by TRNC.
Above-mentioned areas are included in the EEZs declared by Turkish Cypriots. Furthermore, Turkey's second drilling vessel, Yavuz, is expected to be operational in the region as of July.

9- What is the policy southern Cyprus pursues in the region?
The competing energy companies and countries such as the U.S., France and Italy -- which directly or indirectly own these companies -- see southern Cyprus as if it had sovereignty over the whole island and claim their licenses are legitimate.
For energy research and extracting operations, southern Cyprus works together with external actors such as the U.S., Italy and France, whereas it collaborates with regional actors such as Israel, Egypt and Greece for energy transfer.

10- What is East-Med pipeline project? Can this project exclude Turkey from the energy equilibrium in the region?
The East-Med pipeline project aims to transfer Mediterranean gas to Europe through Israel, southern Cyprus and Greece.
In light of the geological fragility of the region and length of the pipeline, the projected pipeline is not viewed as feasible from technical and economic angles.
On top of this, this project -- which is also supported by the European Union -- goes through Turkey's territorial waters.
In order to be able to operate on a legal basis, the actors in the controversial region must act taking Turkey into account.

[grave kestrel]

I answered all your questions, do you have any question? ( + Don't jump up and throw your nonsense at me)

@manic juniper

[cerulean ore]

Tl;dr

[violet peak]

I ain’t readin allat

[keen wraith]

[thorny steeple]

"Those who have no knowledge say, “If only Allah would speak to us or a sign would come to us!” The same was said by those who came before. Their hearts are all alike. Indeed, We have made the signs clear for people of sure faith." [Qur'an translation 2:118]

What is life?
"Know that this worldly life is no more than play, amusement, luxury, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children. This is like rain that causes plants to grow, to the delight of the planters. But later the plants dry up and you see them wither, then they are reduced to chaff. And in the Hereafter there will be either severe punishment or forgiveness and pleasure of Allah, whereas the life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment." [Qur'an translation 57:20]

NOTE: Several verses detail life's diversions from worshipping Allah Almighty, but I focus on this one for brevity.

What about suffrage?
"We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops. Give good news to those who patiently endure— * who say, when struck by a disaster, “Surely to Allah we belong and to Him we will ˹all˺ return.” * They are the ones who will receive Allah’s blessings and mercy. And it is they who are ˹rightly˺ guided."

Why are we in this life?
"Do people think once they say, “We believe,” that they will be left without being put to the test? * We certainly tested those before them. And ˹in this way˺ Allah will clearly distinguish between those who are truthful and those who are liars." [Qur'an translation 29:2-2]

"Allah would not leave the believers in the condition you were in, until He distinguished the good from the evil ˹among you˺. Nor would Allah ˹directly˺ reveal to you the unseen, but He chooses whoever He wills as a messenger...." [Qur'an translation 3:179]

What are we supposed to do in this life?
"I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me." [Qur'an translation 51:56]

Hopefully it's clear now.

[shadow kite]

That's of course according to the Islamic perspective.

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple
If you have more questions that you'd like them being answered, I recommend the Muslim lantern's channel, but only if you're truly open-minded and sincere, he is doing Dawah the right way, the way Allah commanded Muslims to do, which is through wisdom and kind advice (Qur'an 16:125), not yelling and shouting.
https://www.youtube.com/@TheMuslimLantern

[thorny steeple]

Sure, according to the Islamic perspective. Though we Muslims believe this is the absolute truth about life.

[grave kestrel]

No need

[shadow kite]

Yes yes, understandable.

[grave kestrel]

@thorny steeple My man

[thorny steeple]

Hey! 👋
How is your day going my friend? 🤍

[grave kestrel]

Good, wbu?

[thorny steeple]

Glad to hear that. ✨
Decent Alhamdulillah, thanks for asking. 🤍

[grave kestrel]

Alhamdulillab

[keen whale]

How many people still believe in fairy tales, like the 21st century, but there are still ignorant people who are afraid to open their eyes to the truth.

[manic juniper]

1. You didn't answer any question
2. Your wall of text says that if anything Italy and other countries are benefitting on Cyprus' energy sources instead of Turkey, unlike your friend that claimed Turkey was benefitting the most from the region

Even Egypt seems to be benefitting more from Cyprus than Turkey

[onyx hazel]

font: History Channel

[mossy wharf]

Who wants to have a 180 IQ chat with me

[keen whale]

Do you think otherwise?

[summer parcel]

Well Stalin was a tyrant

[onyx hazel]

U.S capitalist, colonialism and imperialism k1lled much more people.

[summer parcel]

Mao was a revelutionalist

he created modern china

its like saying george washington is a criminal

for killing all the native americans

both were necessary for the expansion

and modernalization of their respective countries

[onyx hazel]

So, is colonialism necessary?

[summer parcel]

well china didnt colonise anybody

and it does well today

some countries thing colonialism is necessary

[onyx hazel]

I'm not talking about China

[summer parcel]

i.g. japan for example because of lack of natural ressources

and america for their goal of an empire

and protecting their assets

[summer parcel]

is very cool to see japanese involved in discussions

as they arent very present online

[onyx hazel]

why?

[summer parcel]

i feel comparing stalin and mao isnt really fair

[keen whale]

Why?
are you serious?

[summer parcel]

as mao didnt "kill" anyone per se

[onyx hazel]

Yes

[summer parcel]

its more his policies

[keen whale]

Because he killed 20 million people of his country

[summer parcel]

stalin ordered his generals shot

[summer parcel]

you forget china was a country of 600 million

the proportion of people that died compared to the number living

is very small compared to hitler

[keen whale]

Of course, this is terrible, but this does not make Stalin a good man.

[summer parcel]

or poltpol

[summer parcel]

well i never defended stalin

[onyx hazel]

Well, There is a lot of data on the internet that does not provide the accurate estimate of the supposed number of people he "killed". Most of the data comes from the United States and its allies.

[summer parcel]

he ordered the death of the kulaks

and "anti-revolutionists"

mao's policies killed people

they died from starvation

not that we didnt make mistakes

[keen whale]

No, 20 million is the official statistics of the USSR, probably even more according to unofficial information.

[summer parcel]

well statistics are often a rough estimate

as its impossible to document millions of deaths

expecially from a closed regime such as the USSR

i.g. the japanese killed x millions of asians

during ww2

[keen whale]

Listen, every Russian faced the repressions of Stalin, everyone knows this, you don’t even need any statistics to understand the scale of the genocide.

[summer parcel]

you are talking of tens of millions

[summer parcel]

its not a genocide per se

as a genocide is against a group of people

from a religion or ethnic group

the killings by stalin were everyone

basically in the USSR

[keen whale]

Well, yes, a group of people who considered themselves Soviet citizens.

[summer parcel]

eh i wouldnt say that

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

[onyx hazel]

The point is that people don't decide how much people he supposed "k1lled"

I saw a lot of data saying that he k1lled "20 millions", another one saying "10 millions" and even saying that he k1lled "a lot of people" (but the data didn't say the estimate, lol)

[keen whale]

How would you say it?

[summer parcel]

they didnt aim to kill the russian people

[summer parcel]

more like extra judicial killings

[onyx hazel]

"everyone knows this", lol, everyone is brainwashed by western media, that's the reason

[keen whale]

friend, there are lists, there are names, if you want to make sure, come to Russia, get access to the lists and read it. YOU don't know anything about the USSR.

[summer parcel]

well i feel arguing on x number of killed isnt important

[keen whale]

What does Western media have to do with it if the USSR and Russia recognized this?

[summer parcel]

more like preventing from these things from ever happenning again

we know there were repressions

we know people died

[onyx hazel]

Because Nikita was a anti-stalin government in USSR

[summer parcel]

when people die, its a trajedy

[onyx hazel]

He just made anti-stalin propaganda

[summer parcel]

its called de-stalinastation

its not propaganda

his points were valid as stalin was building himself a cult of personality

[keen whale]

Well, yes, and after him there were Brezhnev, Khrushchev, Yeltsin, Putin, and none of them denies Stalin’s genocide, because it is a fact. And you sit and think that the Western media are lying. Well, let them lie, but in my country entire generations of people talk about this. There is a book by Solzhenitsyn about the Gulag, you can read it.

[onyx hazel]

Western media, has tendency in spread misinformation about socialist countries in general, and also about the middle east. U.S call the Iranian as terrorists

[summer parcel]

and cult of personality is never good

[summer parcel]

my friend i think u misread that

[keen whale]

Because they are terrorists.

[summer parcel]

u are mistaken

iran isnt a socialist country

[onyx hazel]

All of the people????

[summer parcel]

the govermenet is a terrorisst run

[summer parcel]

of course he doesnt mean people

[keen whale]

of course not, but politicians definitely

[summer parcel]

the supreme leader of iran and its governement are corrupt and commit acts of terrrorism

[onyx hazel]

My bad. My point is that U.S spread misinformation about the countries they have conflict with

[keen whale]

Of course, this is the essence of war

[summer parcel]

well every country does 🤷‍♂️

[onyx hazel]

Nope, not "every", the majority of the countries that do this, are the U.S and its allies

[summer parcel]

to make the other party seem evil u get support ers

[summer parcel]

Well i wouldnt say our news isnt biased

[summer parcel]

well the majority of the world is us and its allies

[onyx hazel]

I don't know what country do you live

[summer parcel]

so 🤷‍♂️

[summer parcel]

i live abroad

but my country of origin is china

what abt u

[onyx hazel]

Brazil

[summer parcel]

cool

why is u japanese

[river crypt]

Radhe Radhe

[summer parcel]

characters

[onyx hazel]

All these guys you mentioned contributed to the collapse of the USSR. They reinstated capitalism in the country, allowing the bourgeoisie to regain power and the working class to lose its rights. Moreover, they exploited China. China even calls this 'social-imperialism.' These are the same ones who are in favor of capitalism and were more aligned with the U.S. than with socialist countries. Therefore, it's obvious that they would invent that Stalin killed millions because Stalin had a different political stance than theirs.

[onyx hazel]

I just think names written in Japanese are cool, I love Japanese culture

[onyx hazel]

This video explains everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzTy4rBVDJ8&t=680s

[keen whale]

Ohhh. Socialism does not work, capitalism is more humane, the rulers and people understood this. I live in a capitalist country, and these are better times than those of my ancestors who lived under socialism. I am glad that the rulers have destroyed this rot for 100 years.

[keen whale]

I don’t even see the point in arguing, you have your own propaganda in your head, I know the history of how people suffered under socialism. North Korea, by the way, is still socialism, for some reason no one wants to live like that. I wonder why?

[keen whale]

I don’t see the point in watching science fiction from foreigners; the opinions of citizens of the USSR and a bunch of books and evidence of the tyranny of the USSR over the people are enough for me.

It’s enough for me to know how my friend’s grandfather was sent to the Gulag for 10 years because he took a boot of grain to feed his family.

It is enough for me to know how the people of the Caucasus were forced from their homes to Kazakhstan.

It’s enough for me to know how the Romanov family was killed.

I’ll get tired of listing it all, but you’re pushing me some kind of nonsense. I live in this country, and I know this government, not by hearsay.

[onyx hazel]

"capitalism is more humane" 💀

Capitalism is a system in which the worker has to work for the bourgeoisie without complaining or questioning anything, and furthermore, workers earn almost nothing from the work they do in a capitalist system. The bourgeoisie in this system literally profit from your labor, they get richer, and you get poorer, and no, you can't complain about this system. And yes, Socialism works, just look at China. 'But, China is capitalist,' no, China is not capitalist because the socialist part of China has no bourgeoisie, and the working class owns the means of production. In other words, China is socialist (only Hong Kong and Macau are capitalist).

[onyx hazel]

These are old people opinions about USSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjI8jwn0Upo

[keen whale]

In China, there are also rich and poor, what are you talking about? The capitalist world gave you all modern technologies, Computer, Internet, all technologies were invented in capitalist countries, because the thirst for money makes people come up with different things, and socialism equates everyone to the same level, whether you are a slacker or a brilliant scientist, and what is the point of a brilliant scientist working hard and create? If he lives the same as an ordinary worker, then why should he bother?

[keen whale]

They are nostalgic. And yes, there are madmen in Russia who love Stalin.

There are people in Russia who want the Tsar back.

There are people in Russia who want the death of a Jew, like Hitler.

Even now Russia is waging a war, and many support it, tell me, is it also normal to send people to die?

[mild birch]

yep

[keen whale]

Do you support the war?

[mild birch]

no

[mild birch]

the war is ugly but people go to war to save their countries

[keen whale]

Of course, there are those who protect, and accordingly there are those who capture

[onyx hazel]

bro, China has poverty, but not extreme poverty. Socialism isn't a perfect system (but it's way better than capitalism). The only places in China that has bourgeoisie are the Hong Kong and Macau, because these are capitalists states.

"The capitalist world gave you all modern technologies, Computer, Internet, all technologies",

invent things is called "creativity" and it really has nothing to do with capitalism for real. The things, objects, buildings, technological devices were all made by labour exploitation of workers in the capitalists society.

"let me tell you how horrible communism is, I grew up in the soviet union" - born in 1994 💀

[keen whale]

I didn't say that I grew up.

[keen whale]

You yourself confirm that everything was created by creativity in capitalist countries. I wonder why?

[onyx hazel]

You're comparing people who like Stalin with people who support H'tler actions 💀

and also, the people in that video, were talking about what did Stalin do, they weren't saying vague things like "He was a killer, and that's it, nothing more"

[keen whale]

Maybe because Hitler and Stalin are one and the same? Or did they not sign the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?

[onyx hazel]

China is more advanced when it comes to tecnology than U.S (China isn't capitalist)

[keen whale]

They didn't invent this, they repeated the success.

[onyx hazel]

what?

[keen whale]

Who invented the computer? Who invented the telephone? Who invented the Internet?

[keen whale]

Who created the programming language? Why are all programming languages ​​in English?

[onyx hazel]

What capitalism have to do with it? Like, you can't create things without the existence of capitalism?

[keen whale]

It’s possible, but for some reason it turns out that everything we have in terms of technology was invented by people in capitalist countries.

[onyx hazel]

Saying this is the same thing as I saying that Soviet Union invented the first mobile phone in the world

[onyx hazel]

Stalin and USSR were the responsible for k1lling the N4Z1STS, while the N4Z1STS were saved in the U.S and in Japan.

[keen whale]

Here I cannot argue, the Russians really got rid of the Nazis, but not without the help of the Western world.

[stark arch]

Wassup

Give me some advice in time management

Please, of course

I am a serious man asking serious men some serious question, gimme an answer, please

[keen whale]

for example?

[stark arch]

For example what?

[stark arch]

I am asking for an advice, but i guess you understood the meaning, even if it was not a question)

[keen whale]

A question the answer

[stark arch]

Ok, if you so serious) how can i develop in time management and studying discipline?

[deep loom]

Maintain to do list

Prioritise the main ones you have written in that to do list according to that degree of their importance. (Like eat the big frog first, i.e do the hardest and most important one first.)

Don't usually multitask. (Esp for the tasks where more concentration is required.)

Try as much as possible to cut off distractions while you're working/studying.

Don't do everything in one stretch as after a while you might be exhausted and can't progress further, so take breaks in between to maintain the pace and energy.

[stark arch]

Oh, gotchu, thats not just an advice, thats a full studying plan)
Thank you very much, i appreciate it

[keen whale]

A Mind For Numbers: How to Excel at Math and Science (Even If You Flunked Algebra) this is book about it

[stark arch]

Ok, gotchu, thanks

[deep loom]

You're welcome, there are many useful study tips online tho.

You can try to know more and follow them to enhance your performance.

For example, knowing about the importance of spaced repetition, or studying 2-3 subjects in a day is better rather than just studying a single subject or knowing how to make mnemonics, mind palace method.etc.

Good luck.

[jolly agate]

you know what you suppose to do

[thorny steeple]

Bein lazy is natural phenomenon like instinct of human beings happening.

[jolly agate]

Being lazy is a choice.

[jolly agate]

you are choosing to not do the things you are suppose to do

[thorny steeple]

I can see it as instinct occurred by people who have nothing to do.

[jolly agate]

There is always something to do, If you don’t want to search for something, Then there is always going to be nothing for you to do.

What would the world be like if people stopped avoiding things they knew they should do?

[thorny steeple]

Sure it starts coming to ruin.
and as you told that people who can do this are limited and it requires them to being logical enough to make it through.

People can be divided two types.
①Animalistic people
②Logical(Rational) people

because of weak opposition

[daring kernel]

Some hot takes in here

[stark arch]

Being lazy is a choice of your brain, that prefers to avoid working hard. The question I asked has nothing to do with being lazy, moreover, it is quite the opposite: i have a goal, i have enough energy to reach it, i have got some motivation. But the important thing to notice is that motivation is tem porary, and you need to put discipline first. For that reason i asked for some tips to get more disciplined, in other words, to organize my time and get the best of my work, not just sit there dont knowing what to do and when to do. Now i have some knowledge about it as people helped me and aswered my actual question, and did not try to unmotivate me with telling some strange stuff like “laziness is your choice”. As opencat has mentioned, laziness is human instiction, in my words it is like an illness, that you need to cure, but you to know what remedy to use first

[vague kettle]

Now we will be paid for returning plastic bottles and cans in Ireland. The tax will be imposed on selected reusable bottles and cans. Unfortunately, no one's gonna care about it cause I don't want to buy an energy drink on my break and then go to Aldi to return the empty can and get 15 cents for it lmao

[jolly agate]

🥱🥱

[silver vault]

I don't really think it's the sole reason for it

[jolly agate]

Hello

[lapis talon]

Hello guys I am very serious

[clear shard]

https://youtu.be/bzPRPLG6xRo?si=qNzQtRXkLc0foYmu

[terse compass]

Certainly, I would be pleased to offer guidance on time management. Effective time management is essential for maximizing productivity and achieving your goals. Here are some formal recommendations:

1. Set Clear Goals:
   Clearly define your short-term and long-term goals. This provides a framework for prioritizing tasks and allocating time appropriately.

2. Prioritize Tasks:
   Categorize your tasks based on urgency and importance. The Eisenhower Matrix, for instance, classifies tasks into four quadrants, helping you focus on what truly matters.

3. Create a Schedule:
   Develop a daily or weekly schedule outlining specific time slots for different activities. Be realistic about the time required for each task.

4. Avoid Multitasking:
   Concentrate on one task at a time to enhance focus and efficiency. Multitasking can lead to errors and hinder overall productivity.

5. Learn to Delegate:
   Recognize tasks that can be delegated to others. Delegating responsibilities allows you to focus on tasks that require your expertise and attention.

6. Utilize Technology:
   Leverage productivity tools and apps to organize tasks, set reminders, and manage your schedule. Calendar apps and task management tools can be particularly helpful.

7. Break Tasks into Smaller Steps:
   Large tasks can be overwhelming. Break them down into smaller, more manageable steps, making it easier to track progress and maintain motivation.

8. Allocate Buffer Time:
   Plan for unforeseen circumstances by including buffer time in your schedule. This helps accommodate unexpected delays without disrupting your entire plan.

9. Review and Reflect:
   Regularly review your schedule and assess your productivity. Identify areas where improvements can be made and adjust your approach accordingly.

10. Practice Self-Care:
    Ensure you allocate time for adequate rest, recreation, and self-care. A well-rested mind is more effective and efficient.

11. Continuous Improvement:
    Be open to refining your time management strategies. Learn from your experiences, and adjust your approach based on what works best for you.

Remember, effective time management is a skill that develops over time with consistent practice and self-awareness. Implementing these strategies can contribute significantly to your overall productivity and well-being.

[stark arch]

OMG, Bro, that is a full guidance in time management sphere, thank you VERY much, i really appreciate you giving these tips and spending time to help me🫱🏻‍🫲🏾

[formal scaffold]

Its out of chatgpt you can get answers on it if you are looking fr smth else ig

[stark arch]

Chat gpt doesnt really work in my country right now, we need to download some other stuff to use it
I know that i also could check it out on youtube, but its different when you get advices from people that you can communicate with

[jolly agate]

It is ChatGPT

[stark arch]

Yeah, and what did i write?

[formal scaffold]

Clearly

[jolly agate]

Indeed

[formal scaffold]

What country you live in btw?

[stark arch]

You wont believe me

[formal scaffold]

Do tell

[stark arch]

It is Vakanda

Do you believe me?

[formal scaffold]

I'm fr

[jolly agate]

Vakanda forever

[stark arch]

Yes, thats what we say

[formal scaffold]

9iw

[jolly agate]

Do you guys have some nanotechnology

[jolly agate]

that you hiding form the world

[stark arch]

No, we live poor, no technology, only farms

[jolly agate]

At least you eat your own food

[stark arch]

Yes, our poor Vakandian food

[jolly agate]

Whose brain is it? It's yours, not mine. If your brain seems lazy, it's because you're letting it be that way. Is it a choice or are you being forced into it? It's clearly a choice. It's great that you have a goal and energy to achieve it. If you actually have a goal strive towards it and you become disciplined automatically

[stark arch]

Yeah, but discipline comes from experience, and i dont have much time to experiment with it before my exams, so thats why i am asking for some tips that work for other people) You can not just make schedule and sit there, need to notice those small parts that people have mentioned, thats what i was seeking for

[feral river]

China is currently running by the state-capitalism and socialism-capitalism, we call that China's special socialism or Xi's socialism, but by definition its just another type of capitalism.

[jolly agate]

Whats is stranger about "lazyness is a choice" need mroe explanation rather then calling it strange.

[jolly agate]

Ohh I see, it’s a typical case.

[jolly agate]

How much time you have left

[stark arch]

Thats how brain works in general. If yours doesnt do the same way, you are neither alien nor speacial one)

[feral river]

my brain was lazy, but motivated if I found another work which has a easier way or lazier way to do

that's why I was always struggling to find a easy way to finish the work or study.

[stark arch]

Until 30 June, there are 4 exams i have to pass, it looks good when i saythere are 4 months left, but actually its only 17 weeks, roughly. Each gives you 100 points, i need to get something near to ~380)
Thats pretty hard, thats why i was asking for some tips for discipline

[jolly agate]

Discipline comes from doing what is necessary, it’s come form within, it come with a choice and a sacrifice. Are you willing to sacrifice you pleasure with things that are necessarily but they have no pleasure in it. Even a most disciplined man can be lazy if he chose to do so.

[jolly agate]

Just study

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/true-discipline-come-from-within-south-park-s9e14-bloody-mary-discipline-comes-from-within-gif-22348360

[jolly agate]

Wake up study, eat breakfast watch things related to your topics then study, again. eat lunch while watching things related to your topic, then study again. go outside have some exercise, while listing to some of your lectures on YouTube. Come back have a shower then study.

[jolly agate]

Learn something form Chinese 🇨🇳

[jolly agate]

Before you go to bed study

You say you have energy to each your goals. Do you have energy to follow the plan I just gave you.

[jolly agate]

It’s the one of most dangerous types of mind out their

[stark arch]

Oh, ok, now i see your point

[jolly agate]

explain

[stark arch]

Yeah, i guess i have to. Thanks for tips, will gather eveything you guys have wrote and try my beat following it)

[jolly agate]

Just read that one and follow what’s written on it. You will pass with flying Colors.

[stark arch]

Before you told that laziness is just a choice, was pretty hard to get your point of view until you explained it, now i see it

[stark arch]

I mean, was difficult to understand what you mean by it before explaining, thats more correct i guess

[jolly agate]

It would have been easier for you to ask me to elaborate, just saying if you don’t understand something, just ask for elaboration.

[stark arch]

Ok, next time i will)

[jolly agate]

It’s a life lesson. Use it anywhere you don’t understand something.

[jolly agate]

Also which subjects you have, I can dm you the notes form chatgpt

(:

[stark arch]

Well, i have social science, history and english, and the one left is my countries language exam, so let it be “Vakandian Language exam”

[keen whale]

Why can't you name your country? It would be easier to reach you if I knew where you were from.

[jolly agate]

💀.

[jolly agate]

@stark arch have you read it.

[stark arch]

Ok, come to Afghanistan

[stark arch]

Yeah, i saved it, gathering every tip and writing some of them for my plan

[keen whale]

Yes, it's easy. Why not? People are traveling around Afghanistan, why hide it?

[stark arch]

Just kidding, i am not from Afghanistan, i just dont want to mention my country right now)

[jolly agate]

Just follow what’s written on it, no more tips are needed, if you can follow that.

[stark arch]

Actually

[stark arch]

I am from Russia, heart of Siberia

[keen whale]

Okay....

[keen whale]

Ну что тут сказать, ты просто неуверенный в себе чувак, сначала прокачай уверенность, авось и дисциплина придет.

[stark arch]

Bro, i just copied your profile phrase💀
Im kidding

[keen whale]

I'm aware, it's obvious.

[stark arch]

Oh, ok then)

[feral river]

people's mind itself, no matter what it is, is dangrous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

[thorny steeple]

also the media is controlled by bjp

[thorny steeple]

The fate that media belongs to those in power

[exotic egret]

how many languages yall speak

[rare fox]

Hay gang

[wind echo]

2

[stark arch]

4

[stark arch]

And you?

[acoustic quarry]

I want someone to talk with me about what is nothing?
DM me if you want to talk about it

[formal scaffold]

I dm you

[acoustic quarry]

Okay

[formal scaffold]

I did

[acoustic quarry]

I also DM you

[formal scaffold]

Did u read what I sent?

[acoustic quarry]

I didn't get any DM from you

[formal scaffold]

Exactly

[acoustic quarry]

I know what you want to say but you had to tell me that you want to say this is nothing that's also something

[formal scaffold]

If I tell you it'd be smth not nothing

[acoustic quarry]

It is something which our brain doesn't know

[formal scaffold]

Even the vacum space is a place therefore its something

Our brain is limited to the concepts and normes we live in

[acoustic quarry]

Yup exactly

I want to know the limits of our brain can we break it

If we think about the things which no one can think of. Then our brain could break that limit but I don't know whether it is possible or not

[silver vault]

Yeh that could be contributing to all the Muslim vs hindu ideology, cus those are the only main issues they portray as 'BREAKING NEWS' but I think people vote modi because he's good at manipulating the masses

[formal scaffold]

Just notice that we can't imagine alliens that has no common features with organismes on earth, so our brain functions on observing , mimicing, mixing

[silver vault]

Modi not only plays Hindu nationalism but he is also very good at playing the national welfare card

[acoustic quarry]

I was thinking about IQ

[acoustic quarry]

If someone becomes of unlimited IQ what will he do?

[silver vault]

he will pay a visit to Epstein Island

[formal scaffold]

It wouldn't help us think outside the box

[acoustic quarry]

Did you saw the movie lucy

[formal scaffold]

Nope

[acoustic quarry]

Use of brain at 100%

[formal scaffold]

I saw limitless, a movie series with the same concept

[acoustic quarry]

Which one?

[formal scaffold]

"Limitless"

[acoustic quarry]

What happens in that movie when mc use brain at 100%

In Lucy she becomes a machine which is immortal and exist everywhere after death

[formal scaffold]

he can remember every frame glimpsed by his eyes, his focus became keen, but that's beside the point, iq is something diffrent its like me installing the newest motors in the oldest chariots hoping The chariot will become a car

[cerulean ore]

Aayega to modi hi

[acoustic quarry]

If someone IQ is 0 does that mean they are dead or they are zombie

[formal scaffold]

That's not iq

[silver vault]

Aane do Bhai hmne konsa mna kra h😭

[acoustic quarry]

Making yourself immortal needs lots of knowledge and IQ

[formal scaffold]

That's almost impossible if not impossible

[acoustic quarry]

Study of everything to understand what everything works and how I can use it for my benefits

[formal scaffold]

You gotta understand if u put clothes in the washing machine and come back later it won't become cooked food, the brain needs senses limited by what we can see hear feel touch or smell

Iq wont affect that, it'll affect how faster you can calculate and the amount of info absorbed/analysed

[acoustic quarry]

See, our brain is use to store information and use it. If we can create something like brain which is immortal then it is possible.

[formal scaffold]

We can't creat something with a feature we didn't see before

It'll always be limited

[acoustic quarry]

Do you know Sheldon?

[formal scaffold]

Lets say I drink 10 leters of milk everyday, would I be the tallest person ever?

There are a lot of factors movies ignores for the sake of entertainment

Esp fantasy and sci_fi movies

[acoustic quarry]

AI can become a immortal human if we give our all information to it. It will live life according to our past decision but it won't be us. I think it doesn't count it just came out of my mind

[formal scaffold]

No amount of time is enough for a machine to think outside the box

[feral river]

science proves what is the brain's feature and it will can be work as human does it's possible to assemble a brain in the future.

[grim dome]

If you drink 10 liters of milk per day, your white throne is gonna feel your wrath.

[acoustic quarry]

Exactly but I think this limits can be break

[formal scaffold]

If you have unlimited amount of money would it save you from certein death??

Its similar to yr concept

Iq and intelegence have nothing to do with escaping concepts

Its as silly as those who speaks about the 4th dimention

[acoustic quarry]

That's what I wonder about

[acoustic quarry]

That's why I had question
what is nothing?

[feral river]

that's pure science, no personal emotions.

[acoustic quarry]

I asked my friend what happens after death he said you become nothing?

[formal scaffold]

You'vd been nothing you just don't remember it, since u can't feel it nor equiped to, nor had a brain to remember it, if u had anything to do that you'd defy the point

[feral river]

science always have opponents, and the human history perfectly proven that who trusts science who wins, who know science better who wins.

that's actually how it works.

[acoustic quarry]

Does that mean human can create artificial human

[feral river]

currently we can't made it but it's possible

because a human is too complicated

[formal scaffold]

Even if you do he'll be based of a mix what's existing

[tight tulip]

hey does anyone want to talk? preferably someone who already speaks English quite well

[formal scaffold]

It'd be more sane to acknowledge your limits and focus on what you can actually do

[acoustic quarry]

At some point our brain doesn't allow to think beyond limit it starts hurting

[feral river]

currently we actually know how human works, organs, arms, and other features. I think we will know better and we can assemble a human in the future, but I think in my life which means approximately 60-100 years will not happen

that is way too far.

[acoustic quarry]

If this happens then human can also modify human to break pass the limits of our brain

[grave kestrel]

Human clones can be created

[feral river]

actually our rule, our law is adapting the tech, not the tech is adapting the rule and law.

so let's see what is the future then.

[formal scaffold]

Humans has potential to put their research on the safety of the globe, and the organismes in it, but they'd rather focus on entertainment and empty dreams, the amount of money lost is those empty researches i
Makes me sad

[grave kestrel]

But this project was closed bc it was deprived

[feral river]

you can never know that was closed or not. actually I think it was not closed but it was closed for public.

[grave kestrel]

Yes, my bad

[feral river]

one important thing is called: Permission Denied

[acoustic quarry]

Yup but can bring something new in this world which could benefit more

[feral river]

that's why don't actually know they are closed or not.

PD, Permission Denied

[grave kestrel]

The probelm is that this is a secret project

[feral river]

whatever, adapt the environment, that's what human is always doing

you can't change the environment, adapt it or die.

[grave kestrel]

Indeed

[acoustic quarry]

Someone might have created it already and we might don't know about it.

[formal scaffold]

Which is why it should have less ressources thrown in it

[feral river]

that's conspiracy theory

maybe you don't know whether they created or not after they created it in only 1 year

[acoustic quarry]

May be some people arround you are artificial human or robot which you don't know.

[feral river]

but what if 10 year ?

[formal scaffold]

Tell me how the space companies helped humanity's and the globe safety

[feral river]

that will be leaked if it happen

[acoustic quarry]

Those are done by with help of AI

[feral river]

well, history proven anti-science is a death route.

[acoustic quarry]

Robot doesn't make mistakes

[feral river]

I don't think it needs further explain, you can't stop it develops, and actually no one could.

[formal scaffold]

Wym? There's no people working in nasa? Equipement? Money? Time effort brains?

[acoustic quarry]

I am saying with the help of. Not done by AI.

[formal scaffold]

Gotta answer my question tho? Did they help our safety? Or the envirment?

[feral river]

they didn't help your safety

but my safety.

[formal scaffold]

That doesn't mean nothing Ai is used everywhere

[feral river]

they are nasa, the american's not yours

[formal scaffold]

Mars attack?

[feral river]

we have our nasa here.

if we controlled more resources from the space or knowing a little bit more on it and it may possible to deploy a space weapon we actually have more power.

that's why we need to develop it

[acoustic quarry]

Now a days you can see use of AI everywhere

Some people are talking with chatbot ai instead of people like us

[formal scaffold]

Yeah so what was yr point? I said they overuse ressorces in the wrong filed, mentioning AI is a curveball i think

[feral river]

actually our observer landed in the mars.

[acoustic quarry]

Literally like a human

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhurong_(rover)

[formal scaffold]

If only it can mine the marsium then bring it back

[feral river]

see

CNSA WWWWWW, LLLLLLL NASA

L NASA 🤣 (I was kidding)

[formal scaffold]

How are we willing to create a whole living envirement in a deadlier place while we can put effort into saving ours xD

I see big bellies uses those opportunities to steal money almost like those relegious people that do the same

[feral river]

fr we don't have a space force even, American and Russia have space forces.

I think we will have in the future.

[feral river]

that's what they are always doing

because we are powerful, we don't need to give explain to anything

because of rule and power

[formal scaffold]

Beware japan lol

The banzai fighters might redo it

[feral river]

well I think our government always bewaring any forces but Japan is not even as powerful as you think

actually we have more close ties with Japan ever.

I even ever been Japan they are friendly most of them are pretty good.

[formal scaffold]

Nobody thpught of japan as a strong forcd before too

Nor the romans and persians expected muslims to raise like that

Nor anyone with mangolians

[feral river]

Japan has a strong force since the Meiji era, they opened up to the world and learn from western and established a rule and powerful military.

they did something so they are powerful

[formal scaffold]

I mean they were a small country with few people compared to china

And the whole east asia

[feral river]

China is divided since the Japanese started invasion

it's like they are in a middle of civil war and Japanese invaded

[formal scaffold]

War isn't just about weaponry and tech, stratigical warefar is an important asset too

[feral river]

actually most places are deep in poverty and they don't have a powerful military.

[feral river]

yes like Nazis

[formal scaffold]

China is looking great atm but I think russia is the most dominant

[feral river]

Russia doesn't have much influence since the collaspe of the Soviet Union

[formal scaffold]

That's what I keep hearing but idk it does feel dominant not strong

I mean they dared facing nato inderictly

[feral river]

well, they always doing that

[zinc nimbus]

@sharp blaze

hey

[sharp blaze]

hello, sup?

[zinc nimbus]

sup

[warped ermine]

Hello everyoneone

[zinc nimbus]

see emilia

[warped ermine]

What you think is the purpose of life....what's your opinion

[formal scaffold]

To acknowledge that there's a purpose of life means that we don't own it completly.

[formal pilot]

Blud is here to trigger my existential crisis

[thorny steeple]

Nikita Khrushchev supporter detected

[thorny steeple]

haha, capitalism is more humane, every capitalist country in the world has expensives cost of livings, lmaoo

capitalism: High workloads, exploitation, corruption, gun crime, and extreme poverty. Yes, man, capitalism is incredible, incredible only if you're part of the bourgeoisie that is above the poor.

[grave temple]

Well currently capitalism is the most humane out of every ideology

At the moment. Not it doesn’t have flaws

As capitalism is the collection of money

Infinite but our ressources are finite

But if we don’t find another ideology more humane than capitalist

Nothing is going to change

[thorny steeple]

@thorny steeple yes start learning some skill and grab it tightly.world is full of ecommerce and it will increase day by day.phyiscal business are not that profitable now

[thorny steeple]

I'll try to see some online courses because I don't know anything about it lol

[thorny steeple]

Ok i will guide you to what extent i can

Don't go to every guru selling his course .choose some good one

I have a question if you are italian(i mean your parents too)and not migrated.then why there is unemployement for you all

Is italy not that good for jobs

[oak lily]

Do you people write down new words, idioms, phrases etc. while you are watching movies, series etc? Or do not do and continue to watch?

[thorny steeple]

I was born in italy and my parents are egyptian which it has nothing to do with being unemployed lol i just live in a small city and if u don’t have a car u hardly can find a job

[thorny steeple]

not really germany and the uk are better

[thorny steeple]

Ohhk.then i think you must not go for anything with much investments.coz it would be a burden for your family.

[manic juniper]

All job offers I had in Italy were insane compared to my home country

[thorny steeple]

Capitalism is a system designed to cater to the needs of the dominant class, the bourgeoisie, and not the working class.

If you are hard working and want to know some real stuff which will require low investement but return is good.grab digital dropshipping.

[manic juniper]

They expect you to work a lot more for a lot less, with not as many benefits, sometimes no legal contract, or even getting ¼ of the usual salary in that field in the name of "apprenticeship"

Or they expect you to have 20 years experience in the field as a 19 years old, no thanks

[thorny steeple]

Ohhk.i never knew that their job market is so tough

All i have came to know is that it is really good for students

[manic juniper]

Even in northern Italy, which bear in mind is almost a different country economy-wise (since the North-South gap is immense), you're likely to be exploited or you aren't paid enough in relation to how expensive everything is in northern Italy, from groceries to housing

[thorny steeple]

Why there is so gap.is it because of extra tourist activities there .how there own people survive there with low wage

[twilit current]

[manic juniper]

The South was always exploited since they conquered it during the country's unity in 1800 I believe, then you have mafia that hindered it for a long time, the central government overtaxing it at first, not investing in it (despite its resources, if I'm not mistaken Sicily produced over 90% of the world's sulfur once... And it's just an island in the Mediterranean), also no real efforts to fix its corruption, people leaving for better opportunities in northern Italy or other countries...

Also I don't know how people survive really, many are self employed, many youngsters straight up leave, or they work for the government which is rather okay, the salary is regulated and stable

Italy is a strong country for its technological development and its past, but it keeps making poor economic choices. It wouldn't surprise me if it fell much behind plenty other poorer or less developed countries that are making better economic choices

[thorny steeple]

So going to italy for studying is not a good choice then.i think they are spending lot on the students while not really caring about their own country

[manic juniper]

Well idk about students, to my knowledge it's enjoyable if you exclude bureaucracy and paperwork. It's not worse than German paperwork but it's often not available in English and you have to do everything in Italian

And bureaucracy wouldn't be anything special even if you're an immigrant, Italians too have to deal with loads of it

[thorny steeple]

If its good in technology why it will face any finicancial crises.if they are working keenly on technology .that is enough for them.but the corruption is something which cab destroy it

[thorny steeple]

Can't argue, that's why you just laugh

[manic juniper]

Poor economic choices with good technology is basically one of the reasons why Japan faces difficulties in the economic field, in Italy's case the government is very unstable and lacks direction and regulations

[thorny steeple]

I think bachelor is also not availble there in english language.they prioritize their language so much

[twilit current]

I cant argue with you too, bc what you are typing is dumb af

[manic juniper]

Possibly idk, I am not very familiar with it, it's mostly because Italian bureaucracy doesn't allow for things like that even in their minority languages. For example you can't properly study Sicilian at a young age even if you are from Sicily

It's like a very good but old engine kept together by tape and glue, barely keeping it together but still going, it will fail sooner or later and it's showing inefficiency

[onyx hazel]

Ignore them, they seems like that kind of person who name themselves as "capitalist" being poor, you know?

[thorny steeple]

But japan is far more advance in this sense.they have some restriction too probabily only in weapons .but japan is facing much natural disasters.thats why their economy gets crushed.they are so hardworking and good in tech field

[thorny steeple]

lmaoo

[manic juniper]

Not just that, there is the 90s asset price bubble that hindered them

[thorny steeple]

Europe is getting involved in world policitcs which will be one of the issue for the downfall

[twilit current]

Most communits live in big poverty

[onyx hazel]

Communism doesn't even exist, and has never existed

[manic juniper]

In Japan's case it was irresponsible economic growth, in Italy's case it's more about not regulating much or overregulating where it isn't needed

[twilit current]

huh

[manic juniper]

We always were involved in world politics, any successful country is

[twilit current]

maybe on paper in these communist countries does not exist but reality is often different

[foggy pine]

what's the topic of conversation here ?

[thorny steeple]

But it will not have a good impact in the long run

[manic juniper]

Italy's inefficiency predates the EU by a long shot, and it's more of a damage done by the fascists and those that came after them, they never fixed it

[manic juniper]

How?

What Italy needs is a full political collapse and rebuilding, without any of the bad faith agents that were involved before

[twilit current]

idk

[thorny steeple]

You mean, people in usa living in cars instead of real houses right?

[twilit current]

in democrat places

[manic juniper]

I live in a sauna

[onyx hazel]

What?

[manic juniper]

Reject capitalism and socialism, accept saunaism

[twilit current]

North Korea?

[twilit current]

bro stop the cap

[manic juniper]

Isn't North Korea Juche? Not communist

A communist country is sort of an oxymoron, you can have communist parties or politicians but not a country

Because communism is stateless

[thorny steeple]

Serious??

[manic juniper]

If you google all those countries they never have "communist" anywhere in their names, it's always "people's something" or "socialist republic of something"

[thorny steeple]

So it doesn't matter if extreme poverty lacks homes to live in, what matters is that the country is supposedly 'democratic'?

[thorny steeple]

Anyone who is being part of others fight will face the circumstances.coz europe and america has always showed the dominance in a very bad way its not going to have good impact in long run.just like in russia or palestine.i think the whole world is getting towards ww

[manic juniper]

Wdym Russia and Palestine

[twilit current]

I dont know, it democrats fault

[onyx hazel]

Socialist countries. Communist countries don't exist

[twilit current]

Joe Biden and rest of company

[twilit current]

as you want

[onyx hazel]

As the reality want. Communism is so hard to reach, is practically impossible. But socialism is possible.

[twilit current]

Bro North Korea fr

they act like Communists, that counts

[manic juniper]

How do communists act

[twilit current]

they say "Capitalists are bad", etc

they are banning private places

not to mention freedom of speech etc

[manic juniper]

Is that bad? Capitalists often do the same with communists

[thorny steeple]

North Korea is a socialist country

[twilit current]

what they do

[manic juniper]

They say communists are bad

[onyx hazel]

Define capitalist people

[manic juniper]

We need to return to independent city-states, the poleis of ancient Greece

Maybe create a new socioeconomic system called Termitism or Myrmecism

[thorny steeple]

I mean just like europe entered in russia war to cut off the gas and oil supplies but they can't survive without it.Russia would have not done good but they did it for their own security reasons.they were insecure about their country.same goes with the case of palestine they supported israel knowing that how much innocent people are getting killed.if the target was hamas .why is world supporting oppressor for the first tike

[manic juniper]

Do you really believe to the "security reasons" excuse? Russia is literally an ugly hawk just like USA, that keeps bothering all countries bordering it, influencing their politics or attacking them. Do you also think they occupied Georgia for security reasons?

[thorny steeple]

in capitalist society, the problem is always the socialists, no matter what they do. usa killed and kill so much people around the world, but the problem according to them is the socialism.

[manic juniper]

The difference between USA and Russia is that USA is much more capable of bringing war way outside its country's borders, while Russia is more limited and can't bring war further than Africa

[twilit current]

yo

am back guys

[onyx hazel]

You got the point

[manic juniper]

It says a lot when Finland, Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, Romania and Bulgaria don't like Russia

[twilit current]

bc what they do in Ukraine

[manic juniper]

No lol, we always disliked Russia and the USSR, they conquered some of those countries or invaded them

Hating Russia isn't anything new, do you think they turned out like this all of sudden? They always acted like that

[twilit current]

fr

[manic juniper]

The USSR caused the biggest refugee crisis in my country

[twilit current]

they always got this eastern mindset

[twilit current]

what country

[manic juniper]

Finland

[twilit current]

okay

[manic juniper]

They displaced around 10% of the population

[twilit current]

so you live close to them

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately, we border them

[twilit current]

but I cant understand that some of you guys keep that socialist-communits way so much

[manic juniper]

We are capitalists, Russia is too

[twilit current]

now Russia is enemy to capitalist world

[manic juniper]

We are less like that because Nordic social democracy is less privatised than the usual neoliberal capitalism

[twilit current]

Russia is just on paper "Something different that communist"

[onyx hazel]

Socialism is a system designed to meet the needs of the working class, but every time socialism has been implemented in socialist countries, the U.S has always tried to intervene with sanctions and embargoes. Cuba is in a hard situation due to the American embargo.

[twilit current]

You guys just sit here pouring shit on western world (mostly USA) just becayse you dont like it

[manic juniper]

Our country became socialist independently from the USSR, because plenty of our workers wanted a socialist economy

[twilit current]

maybe some of them wanted that in the past

[manic juniper]

Yeah I dislike USA because they didn't help us when we got invaded by the USSR and they didn't give us any Marshall Plan aid

[thorny steeple]

It's the opposite, you're not aware about it

[manic juniper]

Also because many refugee crises in Europe were instigated by USA, Russia or even ourselves cooperating with USA or NATO

[twilit current]

alr, simmilar with country where I live now

[manic juniper]

So I'd rather not have USA around, they are foreign influence that doesn't belong to our continent

[twilit current]

yeah I know about theories of conspiracy and I bet some of them are at least partly true

[twilit current]

yeah so why you care so much about it?

[manic juniper]

? About?

[twilit current]

they have different world

[thorny steeple]

In the United States, there is a book called 'The Yellow Peril,' which is a highly racist book about Asians, for example, and it is supported by the United States' allies in the West.

[twilit current]

about USA

[twilit current]

alr

[manic juniper]

I never think about USA, I just said I don't like it which is fair

[twilit current]

alr

[manic juniper]

The only country I really care about is Estonia because it's cute and polite

[twilit current]

like Canadians right?

[manic juniper]

No, they are cuter and less polite

[twilit current]

alr

[manic juniper]

They also speak a language similar to ours 😩

[onyx hazel]

U.S have several military bases around the world, does it seem democracy?

[twilit current]

yeah for sure

[thorny steeple]

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/олень-хлопать-омг-в-шоке-я-в-шоке-gif-16000329289301980592

Estonian deer

[twilit current]

well these countries are letting them in so its okay

[twilit current]

alr

kinda cute tho

[manic juniper]

It's kinda stupid but yeah it's still democratic, all of those countries signed deals or wish to have those bases. Although plenty have been dismantled over time

I think if Russia hadn't started a war in Ukraine they would've been dismantled all around Europe too

[twilit current]

I see you guys here are big brains

[manic juniper]

I can't see them dismantling the bases in Asia

[onyx hazel]

But the local people don't like this, Japan and South Korea population really hate the U.S Military bases. And the leaders of these countries are U.S puppets

[twilit current]

You see we have to keep that Vladdy Daddy aint attacking any of allies

[manic juniper]

Many countries that hold US bases are militarily weak like Philippines

[twilit current]

yeah I heard about it in Japan

but its kinda funny for me how all these people are "against it" but they are using a lot of American things 🤣

[manic juniper]

It's mostly because USA depends a lot on Europe for its economy, that's why USA seems to care and they made the Marshall Plan post-WW2

[twilit current]

most likely

am not that into history

[onyx hazel]

What does it have to do broo 💀

[manic juniper]

Uhm I don't know what I'm using that is American, I own a Japanese car, a Finnish jet ski and snowbike, a Japanese console, a Korean TV, my home is entirely of Finnish and Swedish manufacturing

My clothes are also Finnish, or from other parts of Europe, my phone is Chinese

[thorny steeple]

dude, the majority of the thins are from China

[twilit current]

it still show how world is dependent about them

[manic juniper]

Android is an offshoot of Linux, Linux also was created in my country Finland

🦾😎🇫🇮

[twilit current]

most likely but they are murica based

[kindred shell]

hello

[twilit current]

good for you then

[kindred shell]

im new..

[twilit current]

sup

[onyx hazel]

U.S are the 1st economy in the world due to war conflicts, and oil stealing

[kindred shell]

idk what do i need to do

[twilit current]

okay

[twilit current]

bro people are high here stay focused

[manic juniper]

USA and China have huge industries, it's normal that you're going to own some stuff produced in either of those countries

[kindred shell]

sorry-

[twilit current]

yeah

[thorny steeple]

fr, they spent 1 trillion dollars in Iran war bro

[manic juniper]

USA would be better if it had more regulations like the EU, its citizens would be happier

[twilit current]

But I never understood what drive people to hate US 🤔

[twilit current]

fr, I live here most of my life and I have to say thats true

[thorny steeple]

Of course we don't hate the people (because it doesn't make any sense), the politicians are the problem

[twilit current]

Gov

[manic juniper]

Also who is behind them as well, shady businesses and industries

[twilit current]

like I get that

[twilit current]

Two presidents, same owners

[twilit current]

fr

big companies control a lot of things

[manic juniper]

They are fully evil

[onyx hazel]

[thorny steeple]

Capitalist system allow them to do it

[twilit current]

fr

this is what is about it

[thorny steeple]

[twilit current]

you can also make big money but you have to watch out on these guys

like

am not into communist/socialist stuff because my parents came from post communist country

but my grandparens mostly experienced that

so I know how it is

[manic juniper]

My country was socialist for a short time, plenty of people used to be, it wasn't that bad if you don't count the civil war, but that happened because our country was very new

[twilit current]

alr

[manic juniper]

Which country was it?

[twilit current]

Poland

[manic juniper]

Oh that one wasn't quite good, it was forced to be

[foggy pine]

What's your country ?

[manic juniper]

Piłsudski was interested in socialism but he didn't have the chance to apply it, it was unfortunately forced on Poland much later

[manic juniper]

Finland

[thorny steeple]

@onyx hazel where are you from

[twilit current]

like when it comes to Marshall plan, Poland "refused" bc gov was communits and they didnt accepted help bc of communits gov

[foggy pine]

wow I love Finland

[manic juniper]

Piłsudski wasn't a perfect leader but he was better to minorities compared to the USSR, and he was more or less appreciated by Poles

[twilit current]

Finland reminds me of snow

[twilit current]

kind off

[manic juniper]

Nice : D where are you from? Italy?

[onyx hazel]

I'm from Brazil

[foggy pine]

I'm from France

[manic juniper]

What I like about Piłsudski is that he wanted to create a front to protect Eastern Europe from the western and eastern threats

[thorny steeple]

ooh, Brazil is a really nice country

[manic juniper]

Noice, it's weird that I've never visited it

[onyx hazel]

Thanks!

[thorny steeple]

btw, how did you learn about socialism and English?

[foggy pine]

don't hesitate to come along ! you'll see it's great

[twilit current]

they learned from western things

[onyx hazel]

I learned socialism by a Brazilian YouTuber video. I would send the link of the video here, but I don't know if it's allow

And I've been learning English for 4 years in English course

https://youtu.be/cg5winGpx80?si=jcAq2xv10ArXWC4i
This video is in Portuguese, but it has subtitles in English

[manic juniper]

Which party of the country do you suggest the most?

[twilit current]

Saint Troopez

[thorny steeple]

Interesting, I'll check it out later

[twilit current]

Southern France is prob best

for me

[manic juniper]

I'd believe that

[foggy pine]

all of them ! each region of France has its own particularities and totally different landscapes :))

[manic juniper]

What if I like mountains and dense forests?

[twilit current]

yeah