🧠｜serious-chat

[sonic lion]

A guy that I knew just talked to me after a long time to simply tell a mutual friend of ours now a trans woman. First of all, how is that my business? Why does it matter to you? And most importantly, what’s so wrong about it?

[digital hare]

[sonic lion]

I swear, how people talk about others turns me off so much

It’s such a disgusting behavior

Is that what you have to offer to society?

[digital hare]

Let people do what they want If it doesn't affect you. Did you want to say that?

Damn the language barrier

[sonic lion]

No, I educated him lmao

[digital hare]

"Is that what you meant?"

[sonic lion]

People don’t even realize how prejudice is so irrational

[digital hare]

Many people can only condemn others

For their choices.

[sonic lion]

That doesn’t work. People know it doesn’t affect them, they just enjoy feeling superior to others

Gossip is always destructive

[thorny steeple]

hi

[digital hare]

Hello!

[sonic lion]

That’s an act of compensation

[digital hare]

I agree

[sonic lion]

You look down on other people to feel better about you

Or you’re simply curious, which is even worse to me

Just because it’s boring

'Did you see the neighbors change the color of their house’

[digital hare]

"I'M NOT INTERESTED IN IT"

[sonic lion]

YEAH

[digital hare]

Same thing with people clothes and haircuts.

[sonic lion]

Exactly

[digital hare]

Everybody always pay attention to it.

[sonic lion]

Specially when it’s about brands and not even about style

[sonic lion]

So irrelevant

[digital hare]

But I want to see the inside.

[sonic lion]

Mfs who wear those ugly ass snickers just because a celebrity is using think they have a free pass to criticize others

[digital hare]

[sonic lion]

What you mean you’re criticizing someone? You literally follow fashion

[sonic lion]

LMao sorry

[digital hare]

Everybody follow fashion.

[sonic lion]

Fashion is for people who don’t have personality

I mean, people who religiously follow it

[digital hare]

We wear what other people do.

[digital hare]

Oh

[thorny steeple]

hi

[digital hare]

I haven't seen anyone like this for a long time

[sonic lion]

I don’t know about you, but to me, what is beautiful is always beautiful. If you say a piece is out of fashion, it wasn’t pretty in the first place

[sonic lion]

I see all the time people saying ‘this is so year xxxx’

[digital hare]

I like classic style.

[sonic lion]

Me too

I also like the pretentious intellectual who thinks they’re a french smoker in the 60s look

Black turtleneck and skirts

[digital hare]

Wow

I can't explain.

What exactly do I like the most

Peacky Blinders?

[sonic lion]

Damn, good taste

[digital hare]

Their style I mean

[sonic lion]

They’re a bless for male fashion

[digital hare]

My eyes would be happy to see a lot of man dressed like this on the streets.

But everyone wear fucking jeans.

[sonic lion]

Those tight jeans ew

[digital hare]

In a blue colour.

[sonic lion]

God

Also

Those ripped and ragged cloths

They made grunge a fashion trend

[digital hare]

I like real grunge style

[sonic lion]

Grunge/punks were poor as fuck, they’re anti-fashion

But in capitalism, even being poor can be product

[sonic lion]

Kurt Cobain was dope

[digital hare]

Girls in insta that dress very strange

[sonic lion]

It’s cute

I like goth more tho

It’s so unique

But I could never, too much information

[digital hare]

I mean, the way it has become now.

[sonic lion]

He likes ‘em to dress homeless

Got it

[digital hare]

Shish, I'm falling asleep.

It's 7 a.m

[sonic lion]

Damn

It’s 10:15 pm here

Go to sleep

[digital hare]

Have a good evening!

[sonic lion]

You too!

[warped bobcat]

hello

[broken birch]

Hi

[warped bobcat]

what the topic in the conversation?

[broken birch]

Currently nothing

[warped bobcat]

what do you think if we talking about hobbies?

my hobbies is playing basketball and drawing

how about you jousef?

[digital hare]

Oh, I finally woke up.

[digital hare]

My hobbies are sports (to improve my body shape and increase physical strength); video games (if I'm really bored); learning English and photography.

[glacial pelican]

hello

[digital hare]

What do you draw most often?

[digital hare]

Hi!

[main bison]

hi guys

[quaint yacht]

hi

[muted patio]

Goog night

[broken birch]

im not sure but im so sure that i have a lot lol

you can say solving puzzles and mysteries

and anything related to active my brain

[thorny steeple]

you are really sigma male

[thorny steeple]

İs there anyone who can tell jeffrey epstein event?

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[feral river]

You can start about everything you want

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Molossia?wprov=sfti1#

This is crazy wouldn’t it be considered as secession?

I can’t believe there is someone creating a nation inside of another nation and it was not considered as a crime

[cobalt drum]

they need to be recognized that's for sure

secesion or autonomy

[main forge]

wow..lol, that's something intersting to read about

[thorny steeple]

he is giving his taxes

so there is not problem for state lol

[feral river]

Yeah I just knew it from YouTube, and it’s oh my god

I can’t believe that exist and it will not be considered as a crime

[thorny steeple]

ı said this but nobody has replied lol

[feral river]

But still a type of secession

[feral river]

Well idk about that actually

[thorny steeple]

only formal separation

this situation can not change anything

nobody cares lol

[brisk copper]

Guys we are doing a survey
How do you think the subconscious mind affects our lives and the art we create? Our subconscious mind is responsible for our thoughts and actions that we are not always aware of. It influences our behavior and beliefs in ways that we may not even realize. I am curious to know how much of our creativity and artistic expression is influenced by our subconscious mind. Do you think our subconscious thoughts and emotions play a significant role in shaping our artistic ideas and your writings? I would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
thank you

[warped bobcat]

Ohh wow,you have wonderful life bro

[warped bobcat]

Anime

[thorny steeple]

yes they do though u may not know it or think about it but it does and yes emotions influence your art and writings and they give a personal touch to your writings and art. what you write and draw can also give hints about your personality.

[brisk copper]

thank you for ur response

[thorny steeple]

is there any person who watched skinwalker film? is it good?

are you suggesting?

[thorny steeple]

my pleasure

[feral river]

this situation can be serious for a state, it will inspire separatism and influence a lot of people

that's why I just curious why it will not considered as crime.

[thorny steeple]

Every federal state of US has got right of separate

But these attempts are only funny for majority of US society

[thorny steeple]

İ was saying these attempts i was meaning attempts like this micro state

Off course right of separate is being considered frequentlt

When Trump was elected, California had thought separating

[feral river]

I think that is a big flaw to the US itself and it was possible to trigger in the future

people's mind is powerful and dangrous, it could change everything

it could make a superpower suddenly collapse, like the Soviet Union

it was not about democracy, democracy can provide something good but it also has a lot of drawbacks

I think a good leader is important, for democratic and for authoritarian.

there is no perfect system in the world.

[gentle umbra]

SOMEONE HELP @sweet valley

[sweet valley]

PLEASR

[static pivot]

Can you guys name them?

[thorny steeple]

It's rock band

90s or 00s

Could be bon Jovi or Abba

Or Toto

[static pivot]

no

[thorny steeple]

Do they play soft or hard rock?

Do they play metal power rock

[static pivot]

Rock

[thorny steeple]

Ok just rock or a sub division of it

[serene birch]

AC/DC? or LedZeppeline?

[solar geode]

eric clapton

[serene birch]

Angus Young + ....... + Jeff Beck

[pseudo geode]

hi guys, i’ve written in the #📚｜english-questions chat too, i have to learn an accent and the pronciation, and i want to go with the american one, i could really use some help since i have no idea about how to do it whatsoever

[static pivot]

Right

[static pivot]

Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page

Yardbirds

[serene birch]

yeah I thought Jimmy or Angus

[static pivot]

In 60s

When this photo was taken since they're a rotating door

[static pivot]

You have Jim McCarty, John Idan, Chris Dreja, Keith Relf

Calpton, Beck, Page, Aaronson

Etc. etc. etc.

[serene birch]

still best guitarist is Ritchie Blackmore

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[static pivot]

I'll ban you for this

[serene birch]

This doesn't change the facts.

Oh sorry and David Gilmour

[static pivot]

Jimi Hendrix

[serene birch]

also, but for me Ritchie 1st, and second is David

And I'm keyboardist btw

not even guitarist

[static pivot]

Greatest song?

[serene birch]

Our ears cant lie

[tame ember]

Give a serious topic

[serene birch]

hmm

[serene birch]

tool the pot

[static pivot]

die

[serene birch]

lol

[static pivot]

Send link

[tame ember]

Ouch 🤕

[serene birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civuoU_NE38

[tame ember]

?topic

[cursive bobcat]

Topic

What’s the best way to discover new music?

The English Hub - Source: yagpdb topic command + other sources

[serene birch]

Making new musician friends

[static pivot]

I like it

First time hearing this

[serene birch]

Tool another level

they have a lot grammy

[wooden bane]

better off just asking meaning

[lusty zenith]

Ewww Tool

[thorny steeple]

Instagram reels and yt shorts

[lusty zenith]

[wary plover]

The best way to discover new music is by listening to a wide variety of artists and genres. You can also follow what's popular in your area, or utilize streaming services and recommendations from friends to find new music. Finally, don't be afraid to dive into something new – you might be surprised by what you end up liking!

[lusty zenith]

Best way: click any video with cool album art in your Youtube recommedations

Found so many good bands this way

[wary plover]

Absolutely! Album art can be a great way to discover new music, as it can help convey the mood and aesthetic of the music itself. You can also utilize online resources such as Bandcamp and Spotify to explore different genres and artists related to the ones you already enjoy listening to.

[thorny steeple]

Yoo guys ,I'm Aasif Malik
Looking for a partner to prectice English n talk , anyone interested DM me

[lavish finch]

What gives you the idea that a state has the right to separate?

States do not have a right to separate.

If a state began to separate the military would be deployed.

Separation is considered an extreme threat. It’s what initiated our Civil War.

States do have specific rights. Separation is not one of them.

You may think they should have the right to separate. That’s a different issue.

[thorny steeple]

I am sorry

My bad

I should have made more investigation

[lavish finch]

No worries! I was just curious what you meant.

States have the right to tax, provide drivers licenses, set up educational institutions, etc

Rights of the federal government and rights of states are clearly defined.

So states cannot enter into diplomatic relations with other countries for example. They cannot issue their own money.

[feral river]

true logic, so can you give me an explain of this one ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Molossia

wouldn't it be considered as a type of separation act ?

[lavish finch]

He is one person and poses no threat. If California threatens to separate that poses a threat.

If this one person began to act in ways counter to the local authorities he would be put down.

[main forge]

it make sense now, i was like wth is happening in usa lol.

Although, Mr. Baugh is successful to achive his teenage dream tho.

even he make's her own flag

[feral river]

oh gosh he will be sentenced to death if he do that in China.

really impressive

[thorny steeple]

cute pfp

[eager haven]

It's suspect

Just a little bit suspect

[south jackal]

PALESTINE OR ISRAEL

[thorny steeple]

i choose peace

[jolly agate]

China is good and bad for it's strict policys

[weak crag]

No one

[thorny steeple]

good example https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/calexit.asp

[wary plover]

Are there any topics running

[wary plover]

I agree with you, China is developing country but it's politics are strict and sometimes inhuman

China has strict one child policy which caused many parents to kill their second child and sometimes abortion of foetuses of more than one child. The Chinese government also violates the rights of Tibetans and Uyghurs

[jolly agate]

China is second North Korea in my oponion the only difference is it's more free more devoloped and more powerfull and it's more resoursefull.

If i take away those thing form china, I see no difference between both countries. Other then population

[jolly agate]

This is old new's

[jolly agate]

They have ended their one child policy in late 2015 and from Beginning in 2016, the Chinese government allowed all families to have two children, and in 2021 all married couples were permitted to have as many as three children.

[jolly agate]

I'm not going neglect that it is still pretty damm good country to visit, the landscapes are pretty good, Citys are devoloped really nicley and as long as you dont breach any of their laws you would feal as fine as if you were to be in another countie.

[wary plover]

@jolly agate Yes, I agree with you. China is economically developed country because it's government is strict and autocratic. If they are little bit lenient then their economy will also go down to North Korean's level. They are doing all these things to protect their economic power not because they really care about their people. Their laws are made for keeping people in line, not for development of their society. Even China allow people to have three children, people are still not going to marry or even to go in relationship because of one child policy and many more things

[thorny steeple]

I've heard that people are scared of helping each other in street 'cause the police will accuse the helper of being the perpetrator, is that true?
https://youtu.be/wjj_mkc6b6s?si=oJnth2e4YkVf1ewC

[primal wyvern]

In a span/brink of making my self-worth. May I introduce All of my understanding to be understood. Thanks A-LOT!.

[thorny steeple]

is sometimes?

[primal wyvern]

.. still reading the rules which was shared on November 6, 2023. Thanks!.

[vague kettle]

Communism, it's pretty reasonable why you think that there is no difference between two countries.

[muted patio]

Such kind of policy have been abolished for almost 40years

and Nowadays chinese government advocates a family with two or more babies

[muted patio]

Actually,if know more about their history,you may reckon that both of them are just different kinds of capitalist dictatorship，having nothing to do with communism

[wary plover]

I know but the damage of one child policy is still there and it will take many years to heal the wounds. Just because Chinese government allows people to have two children it does not mean that they will have babies. For many years people have believed that one child policy is good thing and the Chinese government has encouraged this thinking. Even now Chinese government allow people to have three child but many people are not marrying or even not going in a relationship because their fear of government and their past policy. People are still scared of government and this fear will not fade easily

[thorny steeple]

there are a lot of differences in economically

[muted patio]

Most of my classmates, both boys and girls,refuse to have babies,but not for the reason that the myth by the government but the high cost to raise a baby.if i m struggling to make myself to have a higher living level,the child obviously is the negative factor.

And i also want to point out that the emotion to the government ,in chinese,is highly complex.

[formal scaffold]

everybody is kong fu fighting

minding your business should be moderate as much as selflessness

[vague kettle]

People don't have to be scared of their government, however, having a one child policy makes sense at some point, the's one billion of people living in China, even though China isn't a small country, It's still smaller than Russia (while there are 140 millions of people living in Russia). China basically has 8 times more people with a smaller land.

It doesn't mean that I support one child policy, it just means that it's actually kind of reasonable.

[wary plover]

Yeah, one child policy made sense at some point because China was poor country and they can not take care of large number of people at that time.

It is true that China has one billion people and they have large population but it does not mean that Chinese government should have made such policy

By imposing one child policy they ruined many families and broke their dreams. Instead of this, they should have found other solution and not punish parents for having more children. This was very cruel thing to do.

[vague kettle]

As I've said, it doesn't mean that I support it. Yea, it's pretty reasonable but it's not right.

[vague kettle]

Building cities in your own country can be the only solution in this case.

Well, as it's a serious chat and we all talk about China and politics right now here, what do you guys think about the war in Ukraine?

[wary plover]

I agree with you. Building cities in China was the only solution but one child policy was also a cruel decision to take care of their population problem.

[muted patio]

Obviously,you r Propose a huge challenge to China's leaders

[wary plover]

one child policy is not right because having babies is a basic human right and people have full right to have babies.

agreed

[wary plover]

I think war in Ukraine is pointless. Just because Putin want to show his power, innocent people are losing their homes, families are breaking and children are becoming orphans. I don't know why he started this war. What about you? What do you think?

[muted patio]

But when the personal human rights have collision with the right of group,them must obey the latter,if the population in rural communities boosted in China last 80s,we will met a string of terrible social and economic issues.even worse,famine

[wary plover]

Yes, population boom in any country can be a bad thing especially for a country like China but you just cant tell people not to have babies. You should not put such restriction on people's basic right. People will get married and they will definitely have babies at some time in their life. I know that it is not practical to have a lot of babies but you just cant have one child as a rule. What if someone's first child is a girl then what? Should he kill his daughter? Give her to me..

[muted patio]

You see,you r lack of the knowledge about our country's logical of administration.If our government announce some nationwide rules but in regions,in fact ,the rule won't have such a big impact,if it does not have a compel.just as the events in decades of Cultural Revolution.We know that the Feudal ideology has It's roots in chinses country and in actual situation people s custom have a greater impact to their routine than law without compel.If policies are implemented through propaganda and advocacy, they will not have much effect.

[thorny steeple]

hello i 'm new

[muted patio]

And i also recommend you a book,《Rural China》,written by FeiXiaoTong,which have a reasonable insight to Chinese rural society.

[muted patio]

Hello

[muted patio]

And the 《Report on the Investigation of Hunan Peasant Movement》written by Mao (in his young period）is also a good article to understand traditional Chinese rural society and It's change in National Revolution.

Maybe you mean bai tang(白糖)😀

[wary plover]

@muted patio I agree with you. Propaganda and advocacy is very important for implementing law in a country like China. Chinese government also used propaganda and advocacy to implement one child policy. They convinced Chinese that having only one child is good thing for the country and people are now living with that. I would like to read this book you have recommended me. In this book it is shown that one child policy was very cruel and many families were broken. Chinese government used propaganda and advocacy. In this book it has also been written that one child policy caused many people to lose opportunity for education.

[thorny steeple]

?def contemplating

[cursive bobcat]

Word: contemplating

No definitions listed.

Definition requested by corpse0223

[formal scaffold]

You can think of it as 'Analysing'

[muted patio]

I want to ask that is the book created by MoYan?

[wary plover]

Yup

[muted patio]

Hahahaha most Chinese students have readed his books. But the reality of his novel is still controversial.

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jay-white-wrestle-kingdom15-soulz10k-gif-24859743

[muted patio]

Even some people criticize him due to his differences between himself and his public character s,so do Yu Hua

[wary plover]

He is controversial because that he is very outspoken and he even criticized Chinese government and many times they banned his books. He has written many such books which have criticized the Chinese government and their policies are some were banned by government. But he is right in what he is saying. Government needs to be criticized if they are doing something wrong.

https://tenor.com/view/jay-white-wrestle-kingdom15-soulz10k-gif-24859743

[muted patio]

Actually,most of his books can geted in mainland China.

[muted patio]

And i still remember he protested that he have handful clothes to wear in his poor childhood,but some net friend find his photoes of that time,He wears very appropriate clothes and is also very healthy（Maybe his father is a teacher who earns more than peasant s）

Someone reckon that that originates in his anti socialism ideology.

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-memes-cat-images-cat-meme-gif-4644773688486402896

[wary plover]

It is possible. He never supported Chinese government and communism. He is very critical about Chinese government and have criticised them in his books. Government has silenced him many times but he is still standing against it and writing about his views. He can write such things because he is known as Nobel laureate of litterateur so government can not do anything against him now

Do you think that one child policy was fair? It was very cruel policy and many families have been broken because of it and many children lost their chance of getting educated.

[muted patio]

Fair.never existes in a bureaucratic and a inequal society

[wary plover]

I agree with you. One child policy was not at all fair and it was very cruel policy implemented by autocratic Chinese government. Chinese government did not wanted people to have multiple children because that would cause problems in their economic growth and development. So, they implemented this policy to solve these problems. The price they paid to keep their economic system stable was human rights.

[formal scaffold]

Hey there I'm Admin

[muted patio]

Yes,but we will understand events in china more easily if we know.that human rights never be a important factor to consider in China s history.

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/why-you-always-lying-meme-vine-funny-nicholas-fraser-gif-4530516

[formal scaffold]

Check my name Mr helper

[muted patio]

In this aspect,Asians always realistic,living well is more important than human rights.

[wary plover]

You are not in officially way to be an Owner, but I have been chatting in this server for 7 months and I have Golden Keyboard in my second account, if you want to know about that @thorny steeple look at my old account, it has my old badges and now I am going to remove it from that account and add it to this one and I also know real owner and admins as well because they are my homies, by the way I am the real helper in this club but you can ask it from anyone, if you want. I also can that you are not an Owner or atleast don't have admin role in your bio.

[formal scaffold]

🤣

[wary plover]

Let's laugh together 🤝

[formal scaffold]

I got demoted 😭

[wary plover]

Yes, I know that human rights have not much meaning in Chinese history. They have always tried to become a stable and wealthy country and nothing else matters. Just like other Asian countries. They are not bothered about human rights but they want to have stable country at any cost. So, yes, living well is more important to Asian people including Chinese. They are not bothered about human rights. They just want to have country where they can live well, do their business and earn their money

[wary plover]

I don't believe

[muted patio]

World will be more harmonious if more Westerners will get this ponit like you.

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-star-succession-gif-27712928

[muted patio]

Bye

[feral river]

what the fuck who will care them 🤣

[feral river]

that's actually not, North Korea was running by a totalitarian government, and it's way more strict than China's

China is just like an authoritarian state, you are free to do a lot of thing that north korea cannot do

well I can't even name a thing that you can't do it in China except participating politics

not taking guns 🤣 and other actions which will destable our society and threat our national security

if you don't like China, just get enough money, get a passport which costs only 20 USD and get a immigration visa to another country

I already left China several times and traveled a lot of asia countries

the problem of North Korea is extreme poverty

if we all have a good life why would we care about politics ?

because there is something lame happening in our life.

I had enough about religions and ideologies like freedom, centrialism, communism, democratic thing because they all have drawbacks and sometimes they are pointless

[torpid pike]

@feral river You should have sugggested something to Kim Jong Un to change the Economic System. And also suggest Biden to take the restriction away from the North Korea so that they can do business with other countries without any problem

[feral river]

there is no perfect solution like the free is the solution or the democracy is the solution

[feral river]

well why ?

[torpid pike]

to reduce poverty

[feral river]

I don't care North Koreans they choose their future

why would I'm going to reduce poverty for them

did they paid something to me ? or they are my taxpayers ?

I don't care actually

I care my life and my people, also my society

[thorny steeple]

What do ordinary german citizen think about Kant? Do they love or know him? İs there any german citizen who can reply this question?

[torpid pike]

you should. You should love them.

[feral river]

actually not 🤣

[torpid pike]

oh! you are a Homophobic!

Kim is my friend. And Im the Belly King

[feral river]

holy crap tell him dismantle the freaking nukes

they don't need nukes

they need to became our puppet state and serve us

[torpid pike]

i did. He said,"He is the democratic Gov. there" NO AUTOCRACY THERE

[feral river]

we need another annexation like annexation of north korea

that is a good thing

I'm supporting that

[torpid pike]

everyone loves Kim there. They love so much that they all have Kim's Picture in their Home

[feral river]

yeah we need eliminate him

[thorny steeple]

I don't hold the liberal principles of minding only my business and that everybody is free as long as their actions are not harmful. It contradicts my religion (Islam) which states that you should advise people to do good and avoid wrongdoing, so I don't follow a man-made principle, I only follow the divine guidance. Any sincere Muslim would do the same.
"You are the best community ever raised for humanity—you encourage good, forbid evil, and believe in Allah. Had the People of the Book believed, it would have been better for them. Some of them are faithful, but most are rebellious." [Qur'an 3:110]
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You see the believers as regards their being merciful among themselves and showing love among themselves and being kind, resembling one body, so that, if any part of the body is not well then the whole body shares the sleeplessness (insomnia) and fever with it." [Sahih al-Bukhari 6011]

But aside from my personal belief, if the Chinese government does really make people avoid helping each other, then I would despise that government even more.

[torpid pike]

Even they believe whatever he says. If he says,"Sun rises in the west", they believe it even if they see that Sun Rises in the east

[feral river]

well actually they promote that

but we are capitalism

just like other governments

[torpid pike]

who

[thorny steeple]

I don't know, that's why I asked.

[feral river]

China

[torpid pike]

why dont you guys become communist

[feral river]

that's a long story to say but we are capitalism right now

[torpid pike]

what do you do as a Capitalist? Any business?

[feral river]

yes

just like other capitalism country do

[torpid pike]

that means you dont support Joe Biden

[feral river]

actually our government says that's called special China's socialism but it's capitalism we all know that

[feral river]

well ? it's hard to say I'm supporting Joe Biden or not

but personally I think he's good because if I'm gonna immigrate america

[torpid pike]

they follow both Communism and Capitalism

[feral river]

he would like to help me

[feral river]

well communism already dead no one promotes them

[torpid pike]

McDonald Trump is good

[feral river]

ass communism they screwed up in China

[thorny steeple]

Capitalism in its core encourages self-interest only. While its true that Islam mostly stresses on the well-being of Muslims primarily, but it would still oppose the notion of capitalism really hard, and a real Islamic government would do the same.

[feral river]

because... Capitalism provides more than this

this is a flaw of capitalism but also an advantage

[torpid pike]

tell me what Biden likes? Ice Cream or Obama?

[feral river]

a healthy capitalism system is use this system like encourage self-interest, and benefit the other people

[feral river]

well a cold war politician ?

he is good at war we all know XD

[torpid pike]

no. He likes Ice Cream and Jelensky's Comedy show

[feral river]

he is smart and he is mastering geopolitics

[feral river]

I have to say, the Islam is not everything's solution, the capitalism, communism is not everything's solution

[torpid pike]

i think it is

[feral river]

and we don't like them because it threats our national security

[torpid pike]

who?

[feral river]

and we kill or arrest muslims who promote their religion, and dismantle mosques, massive survelliance on them

actually it's understandable, for me, for the majority of chinese people

so we support them to do that

[torpid pike]

you guys are Pure Homophobic. No freedom of speech there then

[feral river]

well you can say something you want but please don't destable our society

why you think you can do anything you want without rules ?

that's our rules, if you do that you are under arrest or being killed.

it's simple

[torpid pike]

please dont interrupt someone who is following their religious rule

[feral river]

we don't like islam thing it's dangrous for our government and our society both

it's no reason

[torpid pike]

where r u from

[feral river]

PRC, and I know what our gov do in our state

and I ever been a democratic nation even a Islam one

and I also follow their rules

[torpid pike]

OMG! You guys are threats to our country US! Idc if you hate Islam or not. If u hate religion or not. But dont do it in my country. You will be sent to jail for killing a religious man

[feral river]

can you say anything without rules in anywhere ?

wouldn't that being hated by others ? or considered as a harassment or making noise ?

you just can't

it's just same for us

[torpid pike]

you mean your rules is: No religion there?

[feral river]

we have religion but don't promote them

don't spread your influence

don't affect other people

you can have religion and it's free for you

[torpid pike]

Then what is this

KILLING!??

[feral river]

I said kill and arrest them who promote their religion

they rallies out and staring protest on our government

it wouldn't be tolerated

[torpid pike]

you can do debate and prove them wrong. Why killing?

[feral river]

why would we start debate on them ? that's stupid.

we are majority

90% of chinese people is majority

[torpid pike]

then you are stupid. lol

[torpid pike]

majority without any Clue

[feral river]

oh really ? then stupid people have a good life and live

a smart people dead in the concentration camp

that's really funny bro

then I rather be a stupid people and have a good life.

[torpid pike]

Idk that how the government washed your Brain. But they did bad

[feral river]

no they did not, we are majority, and we are an authoritarian regime

they don't like any type of opposition for no reason

Islam is a type of opposition if they rallies out and starting protest

[torpid pike]

suppose 90% says that sun rises in the west. Will you kill those who says that Sun rises in the east?

[feral river]

we are an authoritarian regime (well we called we are democratic one but no one trust)

[torpid pike]

No one will

[feral river]

if they are challenging our values, like it's like a important thing will affect a lot of people and destable our society, we will kill them for no reason

that is a simple logic

[feral river]

well some stupid people trust them....

I don't trust them LOL

I know how are they works

[torpid pike]

they are challenging, so prove them wrong and win the challenge. You can easily reduce those religious dudes if you can prove them wrong and win the challenge

[feral river]

no they are threat to our society, they can pull over another thing any time and they have power because they are rallied out

the point is they have power, if they don't have any power we won't care them

[vague kettle]

I'm Ukrainian (But I don't live in Ukraine). There is no point to say that I think it's pointless.

[feral river]

so we need to eliminate this power for us

for peace, for stable, and for prosperity, it's easy and understandable

I mean for us, for our peace stable and prosperity

not for you

[torpid pike]

when you cant prove them wrong and saying that they are threat. then how will you survive in another country? That means you are Threat to them.

[feral river]

well we can just pull over a pretext to justify they're wrong and we already did that

you can use any pretext to justify everything

[torpid pike]

and you came out wrong

[feral river]

like this is right, this is wrong, but we all need to hear who is the most powerful side

the powerful side say this is right, then it's right, because the loser can't say anything

they will be eliminated by winner

the pure power choose everything

because you oppose, you death

and it's easy

[formal scaffold]

agreed ❤️

[feral river]

I just say they are destablizing our society, it's a good pretext ? and they are doing that !

so why would I just care them ?

they are threat to me

I don't fucking care any of Islam, they are shit to me, why they can came out and make challenge on my values and my society ?

It's not fair

[torpid pike]

@feral river Bro, i dont know what kind of man you guys are. But its really depressing that you guys are surviving without any clue by saying you have 90% supporters. Sorry, but i cant debate with a Clueless man. So goodbye and have a good day. Also think before moving to US. Cause we are already having too many immigrant problems. 🙂

[feral river]

no clue ?

91.1% Han Chinese

on the wikipedia not even our website

we can't even access wikipedia without VPN

[torpid pike]

an Homophobic and a Racist also collect some meaning less clue. But we all know that they are wrong.

[feral river]

bro you just say I'm wrong for no reason

holy crap, that's political true for the US I know because there is a problem about racism in the US right now

but don't think we have this problem okay ?

you are using your manner to handle our problem

it's kinda offensive

[torpid pike]

you are thinking that you r8. But you can understand it after migrating here and debating with a person here. We have freedom of Speech. So we will not kill or arrest you till you kill someone. Thanks

[feral river]

oh really ? I don't care then why would I do that

I went america, I follow american rules and law, I went muslim countries, I follow Islams

I'm freaking legal

[torpid pike]

because you do this in your country and not even accused of any Murder Case. 🙂

[feral river]

why you think this is right and that is wrong ?

[feral river]

we do, that's our manner why not ? they got punished by violating laws

[thorny steeple]

What are you guys debating about?

[feral river]

you are just saying our law is wrong

that's our law, it's mandatory, no one could violate that,

I won't violate law in the US

[torpid pike]

you could understand this in a free country. Which gives you freedom to do almost anything. No one will harm you till you try to harm someone

[feral river]

wait, what freedom ?

what freedom you provides and we can't do that in China ?

like take guns ?

protest ?

say something crazy ?

what is the benefit of doing that ?

where is it ?

can I earn money from it ?

[torpid pike]

Freedom of speech. Freedom of trying to Convince someone that his believe is r8. We give this freedom which is very hard to find according to your statement

[feral river]

if I can earn money from it and I'm gonna try the US visa then

tell me if freedom of speech can earn money

can freedom of speech earn a lot of money ?

it can't

it's freaking not important

wtf US is the capitalism nation

[torpid pike]

Freedom of speech let you challenge someone that he is wrong or r8.

[feral river]

we care about money, guns, and anything can benefit me

what freedom of speech can benefit me ?

where is the benefit ?

[torpid pike]

Kim Jong Un wants people like you. Please migrate to North Korea instead of US

[feral river]

I don't north korea can't give me a lot of money

but I can easily touch money in the US

I'm a capitalist

of course if you give me money, I can support anything

I can support totalitarianism, capitalism, communism, I also can support religions

but you must let me show where is the benefit

where is the money, where is the power ?

[torpid pike]

🫤

[feral river]

but actually you can't just earn money from freedom of speech easily

so I don't care that at all

[torpid pike]

You need more knowledge. Please get some education. 🙂

[austere hatch]

Yo

[feral river]

you need that knowledge

[brave zinc]

Have you ever heard of Twitch?

[feral river]

you can't even answer my question

[feral river]

yes... and I'm streamer in bilibili before but you have to use a lot of time for it

a nice hardware, and a good idea

it still cost some

the point is not freedom of speech

[brave zinc]

There is money to be made as a "content creator" using their right for freedom of speech to say whatever

[brave zinc]

What is billibi

[feral river]

that is awesome but just like I said you have to do a lot way more than only freedom of speech

of course freedom of speech is improtant for this

[feral river]

bilibili.com

[brave zinc]

Is that like Twitch?

[feral river]

yeah just like youtube and twitch

but chinese version you know

I hate our freaking firewall that's really ass

well don't think that the gov will arrest me, it won't 🤣

we are not north korea please, don't think we are like in the north korea

[thorny steeple]

The word Islam means the submission of one's will to Allah who's All-knowing and All-wise.
Islam is everything's solution, it deals with every aspect of your life. Although freedom exists in Islam, it's not absolute, the core principles of Islamic rulings, teachings, and traditions guarantee the well-being of not only individuals, but also to the whole Ummah (nation). Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam.

[feral river]

well you can say that is the solution, yes no doubt, but we have our own solution instead of adopt yours

you can't just force us to accept your solution

unless you occupied us🤣 actually it's impossible

[thorny steeple]

whera are u from

[feral river]

I just realized that your education is the true indoctrinate

[thorny steeple]

"You have your way, and I have my Way.”" [Qur'an 109:6]
"Let there be no compulsion in religion,..." [Qur'an 2:256]
No worries, I didn't mean you should adopt it, even though I believe it would've been better for you.

[feral river]

oh my goodness

this is amazing I just realized

[vague kettle]

Even though I like Islam a lot and some things actually make sense, we're here to talk, not to discuss religions and why it's the only truth.

[feral river]

they said that ? oh my god that changed my mind about islam

I think they force someone to adopt them because well...

ISIS, Taliban thing, and extremists

[thorny steeple]

Egypt.

[thorny steeple]

do yo know this manhttps://t.co/BjblZRJXqM

[feral river]

Egypt is a good nation as well know

you guys joined BRICKS this year ?

true allies bro

[vague kettle]

We don't say that you have to convert to Christianity because it's the only truth (As millions of people believe), why do you say it?

[thorny steeple]

Yes, I didn't mean to talk about religious things, I was primarily replying to one of my friends here @formal scaffold , but then Minecraft_652 started a nice conversation with me and here we are.

[thorny steeple]

What did I say?

[thorny steeple]

No honestly, never heard of him.

[thorny steeple]

he has got very ınterestıng ıdeas about perceptıon of woman of ıslam

[feral river]

wait did your president just got elected again ?

[thorny steeple]

I see, nice.

[feral river]

Authoritarian!

[thorny steeple]

I don't know, did he?

[thorny steeple]

are you identfying yourself as islamist?

[feral river]

yeah I got news about that

[thorny steeple]

What does "Islamist" mean? I'm a Muslim individual Alhamdulillah, I only identify as a Muslim.

[thorny steeple]

according to you, is islam only personel thing or has it got political aspect for society and laws?

[thorny steeple]

I have no problem answering your question, but once you answer my question first. What does "Islamist" mean?

[thorny steeple]

we are saying islamıst to persons who think that ıslam must be polıtıcal base of socıety ın my country so turkey

[thorny steeple]

imposing Sharia on non-believers is not of the teachings of Islam. (unless they live in an Islamic state, then Sharia is enforced on the state as a whole)
However, have a look at this verse:
"Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allah’s Book, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. So do not fear the people; fear Me! Nor trade my revelations for a fleeting gain. And those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are ˹truly˺ the disbelievers." [Qur'an 5:44]
That's an orthodox Islamic belief. In fact, it's one of the most fundamental principles in Islam, which is following the Sharia Allah has revealed, otherwise, why did Allah reveal it? but this applies to the Muslims and the Islamic nation.

Does that answer your question?

yes ı got

but ı am wonderıng ı am an atheıst and what is my position in Islamıc regime?

And a more specific answer to your question, I don't affiliate to any group. I'm a Muslim, period.

[thorny steeple]

I don't get it, what do you mean?

[thorny steeple]

ı am an atheıst so ı do not belive in any god, what will islamic state make with me? what will my rights be?

[thorny steeple]

This is called "Ahkam 'ahl al-Dhimmah" (Regulations for the People of the Covenant), affiliating to any religion that is not Islam and having a a covenant with Muslims protects your normal human rights in an Islam state.

Noteworthy, in an Islamic state, human rights might be different than what the UN stipulated.

But there are definitely some commonalities. It seems to me that the human rights regulations are mostly driven from religious scriptures.

[thorny steeple]

wil not I pay jizya?

[thorny steeple]

You will. Just like Muslims pay Zakat. In fact, Zakat is far higher than Jizya, and also Jizya is obligated on people who're capable of paying it, it's a deep matter that requires a little more in-depth to understand all of its aspects. However, a short answer is yes.

[thorny steeple]

ı wonderıng, how is quuran mentioning about ten plagues of egypt?

[thorny steeple]

Just made a quick search. According to the sources, the plagues of Egypt are 10 disasters inflicted on the Israelites who were the people of Moses.
In Islam, the Qur'an mentioned similar disasters in 7:133 "So We plagued them with floods, locusts, lice, frogs, and blood—all as clear signs, but they persisted in arrogance and were a wicked people".

It seems to me like you already know Qur'an mentioned that, so why did you ask?

[thorny steeple]

yes ı had known but all converses talks here is only englishh pratice for me

because sometimes ı am asking questıons that ı know its answer

to create more dıalogue for myself

like now

[thorny steeple]

Aha, I see.

[quick dune]

hi guys, im a spanish native speaker, are someone who would want to do a language exchange ?

[sour talon]

Hello everyone i hope all of you are better

[pseudo wharf]

Hello guys

[restive ridge]

Hi there!

[sour talon]

Anybody explain it that pen is better then sword

[sour marlin]

Sure it is

[sour talon]

Then explain it

[restive ridge]

more compact, it's harder to cause death with it, lighter, used more frequently

[sour talon]

Good any more

[restive ridge]

Maybe also that a pen is easier to manufacture.

[jaunty badger]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-chat-gif-20883935

[sour talon]

Tell me about your sporrts

[jaunty badger]

what is the topic about

[restive ridge]

hi btw : )

[jaunty badger]

sup

[restive ridge]

how's that related to my response?

[tribal linden]

obviously knowledge is power

[restive ridge]

Anyways, is anyone here familiar with the server proficiency scale? I am not sure I have the right role assigned for upper C1.

[lusty zenith]

It tastes better

[vague kettle]

Roles do not mean anything here.

[restive ridge]

If so, I am staying where I am now only because of the cool colour

[thorny steeple]

wrote a poem about the sahara after a recent trip.

Nomad

As I roam your wilderness,
I see nothing but endless sun,
Heat oozing from your core,
I move on slowly.

With each step comes a new mark,
Quickly corrected by shifting tides,
Waves of sand rushing along your ocean,
Miles of endless waves beating earths surface.

heres a snippet, too long for discord lol

[rotund fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hoechlin-hoechlin-crystal-bethany-superman-and-lois-superman-gif-26186686

[civic reef]

pen can be shoved up into one's orifices in an easier way

all orifices

(depending on the individual preference, so i could call this very customizable, clearly a good solution)

[muted patio]

The only thing Kims dynasty needs is being overthrown by koeran people,building a real Communist country

And well.that's so strange, why there always a political debate happens when theres Chinese

[nimble sluice]

guys can any one help me with something in dm rn

[hallow edge]

welp yemen learned a lesson the hard way

[thorny steeple]

You're in the army now 🪖

[bronze maple]

**maverick_1986 is currently AFK!

reforming the Serbian empire
They have been afk for 2months 3d 8h 5m**

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jay-white-wrestle-kingdom15-soulz10k-gif-24859743

[hallow edge]

the dominoes are falling towards ww3

it will soon happen

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/jay-white-wrestle-kingdom15-soulz10k-gif-24859743

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cheayeon-gif-4334237210926454961

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/area51-naruto-run-ninja-run-gif-15287052

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/out-ghost-disappear-bye-gif-12426892

[muted patio]

Woo,might you answer me that how do you send pictures and gifs please 🙏

[thorny steeple]

@wary plover

Hell he will help you

[muted patio]

Ok,thanks dude

[thorny steeple]

what according to u all is the best way to get your subconscious mind to work for u

[feral river]

Bro they aren’t my taxpayers, they threatened and destabilized my society, they are no benefit to me.

Then why you guys think I have to care anyone and respect every life being in the world ?

How does that make sense ?

If there is a statement that you have to follow this way where is that come from ?

It’s very weird I have to say

It’s understandable if I don’t want a life being with little influence to me like a regular person or a friendly animal going to death

But it’s ridiculous to make your enemy alive

[rare cloak]

Did anyone tell me what are the innovations to solve our society problems

[dawn loom]

Nuclear bomb

[wooden pendant]

more like nuclear reactor

[dawn loom]

you copy cat.

[wooden pendant]

nuclear bomb != nuclear reactor

with nuclear bomb you can destroy but with nuclear reactor you can creat energy like electricity at greater efficiency that will make electricity cheap and we will be able to leave the usage of fossil fuel hence saving the environment

[feral river]

nuclear weapons provides peace for us

if there is anyone wants to try us

just nuke them

weapons = power

[wooden pendant]

but they will also nuke you so finally peace will happen because no one will be left to disturb it

[feral river]

so they won't do that because we both will be nuked

so peace achieved for both sides

but, if my opposition don't have nukes

there might be a crazy small invasion 🤣

as an available choice to do

if they have nukes, we will never try them

it's easy

you won't try me because I can destroy you, and I won't try you because you can destroy me

so we peace

[wooden pendant]

but what about inside the country nuke can save you from outside but inside the country is what most important

[feral river]

what are you talking about ?

I don't know what you mean

[wooden pendant]

the question was about fixing societies problem the society is inside the country problems like corruption, murder, theft etc

[feral river]

like internal problem ?

every country has internal problem

[wooden pendant]

yeah

yeah but that is the question how to solve them

[wary plover]

I know. Chinese people don't care about human rights. They have become so selfish that they are not thinking about anything except their own interests. They don't even care if government break Human Rights of Uyghurs and Tibetans. Many people living in China are like drones who obey government. Government is supreme in China and people have to obey it. They don't even have right to speak against government

[feral river]

why you think we have to obey them ?

we are not, it's tibetans and uhgurs have to obey them

not us 🤣

we are internally democracy

[wooden pendant]

if you are a citizen of a country you have to obey the goverment it doesn't matter which government

[feral river]

just internally

[feral river]

well depends what kind of it

if they did something that we all hate

[wooden pendant]

yeah some provide more freedom than others

[wooden pendant]

revolution it is

[feral river]

no

change the leader

that's easy

[wooden pendant]

then? you can't change the leader in china can you

[feral river]

it's no need because he did good

[wary plover]

If Chinese people don't obey government then why many people are silent about things like Uyghurs , Tibetans. No one is protesting and people are not speaking against government. It is because government has forbidden this. They will punish people if they speak against government. If Chinese people were not obeying government's commands then why China is so successful

[feral river]

but if he did something bad we all need him to change

or just let another people came to power

[wooden pendant]

yeah that's true but if there is ever a need to change the leader it will be very hard

[feral river]

well I said we don't care about minorities because they are literally illegal and threat national security so

it's out of range, but for the majority of chinese people, the Han chinese

we have choice and we can do something change our status

91% of chinese is han chinese

[feral river]

yeah that's true

[wooden pendant]

but it is hard in general

[feral river]

so it's tough work to running an authoritarian country

and he have a lot of work to do

actually, we all good here, he is a great leader I have to say

[wary plover]

It is funny that you say minorities are illegal and threat to national security. Are they not also Chinese citizens? Are them not eligible for rights? Are their life not as important as Han people?

[wooden pendant]

they are but what could @feral river do

[feral river]

they are Chinese citizen but if they did something illegal, they got punished just like me if I violated the law I will got punished

but the religion is illegal

[wooden pendant]

you remember the protest right what happend to them

[feral river]

the protest is illegal

so they are easily got punished

[wooden pendant]

ah yes

[feral river]

if they don't do that, you can see there is a lot of CCP member from Tibet, Xinjiang

like Uhygurs they can just regularly as a chinese citizens

but they must follow the law

[wooden pendant]

yeah if you are in a country follow that countries law

[thorny steeple]

deep talk

[feral river]

yes, that's no reason

[thorny steeple]

what's the topic btw?

[feral river]

you guys team up starting protest and ignoring law

why we are going to protect you ?]

it doesn't make sense and it's not fair at all

[wooden pendant]

yeah but if they don't like something that the government is doing what can they do

[feral river]

rule by the law is much more essential I have to say

actually we achieved this one at the previous century

[wooden pendant]

chinese government

[feral river]

I ever been a democratic nation, even our opposition state, it's all good

[wary plover]

Ah I see, you are right if minorities did something illegal then they will be punished like Han Chinese. But why do you think their religion is illegal? It is violation of Right to Freedom of Belief which is a basic human right. There is freedom of religion in China on paper but in reality no one can follow any religion other than atheism in China. People are not allowed to practice their religion or go to their religious places so as to avoid creating any kind of division

[thorny steeple]

i see

[feral river]

you have to follow their rule if you go another state

I have to follow Islam if I'm going to Islam nation

[thorny steeple]

i would love to join the conversation but i gotta go

[feral river]

I said we don't like influences from religion, freedom and right is essential but it's dangrous

it can change everything, it threats our stable

if you think you don't have freedom and right why don't you seek refugees to another nation ?

China don't receive any refugees

[wooden pendant]

yeah control every of aspect of people because people are dangerous

[feral river]

any, even one

China will never receive any refugees

we don't need useless people

at least do something better for us

[wooden pendant]

yeah but they are not letting the people go because it will tarnish the image of china

[feral river]

if you think they can't benefit the majority of people, so why would we let them in and do whatever they want ?

just for the freedom ?

fuck freedom

[wooden pendant]

but they were there before china even established itself

[feral river]

well the point is they are destablizing our society

they did that, if they don't do that just like Hui Chinese

Uhygurs and Tibetans did something terrible and threat our society

they deserve it

[wooden pendant]

maybe but if it is like that get them out of the country not keep them in concentration camps

[feral river]

Hui Chinese never did something like this. they are minorties and they are respected by us

by everyone

[wooden pendant]

what?

[feral river]

protest, terrorist attacks in our state

establish religion presense

what the fuck it's so terrible for us

it's like 911 in China

they even attacked our capital, Beijing

they freaking deserve it

kill them better all because we all hate them

we hate them for sure

[wooden pendant]

every person did it? some people may have done it but not everyone

[feral river]

not everyone so we use law to filter which one is good and which one is bad

through religion, habits, daily routine

[wary plover]

I know that religion can create social instability. I understand your point of view but the solution is not to prevent people from practicing their religion. I can give you the example of India. India has freedom of religion but it has not created much instability. You want to ask me why don't I seek refuge in another country? I can say that my country is not as rich as China because of which my country can not support so many refugees. China can easily support refugees. It has also created so many concentration camps for refugees.

[feral river]

actually massive survelliance is based on us

because our government offers some camera to us before for free

and we are glad to do that to use the camera protect our property

to prevent crimes

but they used that against them LMAO

that was unexpected

[wooden pendant]

yeah camera's are good for preventing or catching the culprits of crime

[feral river]

well actually we all different, you can't use India's manner on chinese people

personally I respect everyone who has religion

I think the religion can't be considered as crime

but most religious people in China actually is criminal.

this is the fact

we can't tolerate criminals

so please for yourself, get off of China

go america and seek a better life

[feral river]

yes last time my wallet is lost on the way, and our police station see there is a wallet in the street through camera

they called me, is that your wallet ? what is your name ?

and I'm definitely going to that police station and received my wallet

it's like oh my godness

I even kept the photo to that

[wary plover]

Why do you think that most religious people in China are Criminals? Religious people in China are more tolerant than Chinese people because religious people believe in god and in god's justice. In Hinduism as far as I know, they have caste system and they believe that their god will punish people in their next life if they did wrong in this life For example if someone did some crime then people from lower caste will be born in next life and will suffer a lot ☺️

[feral river]

I think our Chinese police is really better than western nation's

[feral river]

I said they have to obey the law, and the law regulated they are criminals because they starting protest, they rallies out and doing something terrible

they have influence on our society

we won't tolerate that and that's illegal

[feral river]

because we have massive survelliance 🤣 \

[wary plover]

I got your point

[feral river]

I said they suppresses religious people, that violates the human rights

I support this point

but I don't think that human right is more necessary than a stable society

[wary plover]

I got your point. It is correct that religious people start protest and rallies and it is true that religious people can influence society. But government has created law to prevent any such activities. In my opinion, it is not that religious people are Criminals. Religious people just want to follow their religion and that's their freedom. Government has given them a false freedom on paper (Freedom to believe in any religion) but in reality they can't follow any religion openly. If they do so then government will put them in jail or send them to reeducation camp

[feral river]

yes.

actually don't starting protest and rallies, you can follow the religion by yourself and we don't care

but an ongoing protest and rallies will destablize our society and nation

well I have to say our reeducation camp is terrible even for a regular chinese citizen

the indoctrination is the Xijinping thought, is the socialism thing

I hate them at all

It's like socialism or communism extremism

[wary plover]

I see

[wary plover]

[feral river]

but, I'm from a middle class family, I have house and car everything necessary even a good computer, a watch and iPhone 15

[wary plover]

Yes religious people should not form any kind of protest and rallies against government as it will destabilize society.

I am glad to know that you have admitted that reeducation camp is terribly bad

[feral river]

so I don't care LOLOLOLOL

my parents, grand parents all member of CCP

and actually I'm going to join CCP if there is a chance

it's hard to join CCP

[wary plover]

😊It is lucky having parent and they will be with us for long time but I don't have them anymore.

[feral river]

in 100 people only 1 could join

[feral river]

I'm sorry for mention that

hopefully you will find your love

[wary plover]

I have good siblings, one of them does job that's bank manager in your town..

[feral river]

It's not reeducation camp, it's concentration camp it's like nazi thing

terrible, really terrible

[feral river]

where are you from ?

[wary plover]

I also think that concentration camp and reeducation camp are similar. Both are terrible places where people are forced to follow government orders

[feral river]

oh my god

[wary plover]

[feral river]

Sri Lanka bankrupt

I heard that

[wary plover]

But

[feral river]

your dictator flee to another nation

that's really sick

they abandoned their own people

[wary plover]

I have enough money for live in this country and now all is fine. My eld sis is bank manager and that money is fair enough for everything..

[wary plover]

[feral river]

hope you can handle this moment

[wary plover]

I have enough things to live in this country.

[feral river]

actually, I'm seeking immigrate to america soon because they are so developed and you can earn a lot of money

[wary plover]

Same me and my siblings are going to Canada on next year.

[feral river]

I literally only can earn 1000 USD per month in China

that's really not enough to me

[feral river]

North America

[wary plover]

My sib earn LKR, 300,000 in per month and it is really enough.. but...I don't want to disturb them by doing stupid things and buy nonsense items

[feral river]

oh that's same to me actually

300000 is 1000 USD

[wary plover]

Yes my previous President got away before the country went bankrupt. My country had worst president ever in the world. He was corrupt and he destroyed our country. But thankfully he is no more. It is true that he left his people behind but it is people like me who are running this country behind this government.

[feral river]

well I have a chance to buy luxuries, eating KFC, McDonalds, and even starbucks but I'm business man in heart

[torpid pike]

you mean that you live on your siblings income?

[feral river]

I only spend some money for this iPhone 15 and my computer, my suit

[wary plover]

Yes

[feral river]

other goes to bank account, golds, bonds and the stocks

[torpid pike]

if you are a girl then its ok. But its very funny for a boy or a men

[feral river]

how your people established your government ?

[wary plover]

Don't talk about it because you can't understand my situation and atleast you didn't see my situation and did not live with me..

[wary plover]

It is soo.....

[feral river]

I heard you guys ceded your territory like the port for lend to another nation for 99 years

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-running-run-steal-stealing-gif-10098694

[torpid pike]

BTW, its also not a problem if you are in a bad situation and trying to establish

[feral river]

is that correct ?

[wary plover]

🙃

[feral river]

at least better than Kim

[torpid pike]

start doing podcast.

[feral river]

Kim is the emperor of the North Korea

he is the most awesome 40s man in the world

[torpid pike]

or become an interrupter like Piers Morgan. haha

[feral river]

I'm going to south korea in march hopefully he won't kidnapping me to north....

[wary plover]

Piers Morgan is the most annoying human-like creature in the world, why would you want me to become like him? Do you want me to become dumb? heart broken

[torpid pike]

haha. i just wanted a good Interviewer. Not like Piers Morgan. But people like Piers and other who do podcasts make much money. 🙂

So its not a bad idea.

[wary plover]

You know what, maybe it is a good idea after all. Maybe this is my destiny, to become the greatest interviewer ever. I don't care about the money

[torpid pike]

🙂 your sibling's income...

[wary plover]

You're right, I don't have parents, and my siblings take a huge chunk of the family's income. And it's not fair, I should be getting just as much as they are. Don't you think it's about time that I stand up for myself and demand what I deserve? I'm tired of my siblings hogging all the money

I was kidding

I just need to keep their money

and I don't want to disturb them by doing something bad like stealing money

I love them more than everything in this world

[torpid pike]

Mmm... BTW, womens today say,"Men and Women are Equal in everything."
So, keep doing. haha

[wary plover]

Hmm...I don't want to cheat with my sibling..And don't need to steal their money actually she earn enough money to me and I don't want to just throw it to water without reason..Idom...I actually enough that money and I don't care about what you said actually 😅

[torpid pike]

@wary plover Where are you from? Nice to meet you. Im from US(Native Bangladeshi)

[wary plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1148833279714283600.webp?size=48&name=Pepeblob&quality=lossless

[torpid pike]

actually i dont know this Flag

[wary plover]

And I just have many things that I want and they all are enough for me...just normal life

[wary plover]

Yes, you should not know about that

Your geogaphy level is lower than kids one

[torpid pike]

haha. ok.

[wary plover]

I was kidding don't take it serious

[torpid pike]

im also suffering from many things in US. I have been there for 1 week. I just migrated. 🙂

[wary plover]

ohh I see i see

all will be good but I am not suffering

[torpid pike]

i got a nice neighbour today who wanted my WiFi's password. 😦

[wary plover]

Good one.....

I have cool, good, fresh life and live happily...how suffering

🤔 maybe you take something as wrong

anyway now it makes correctly

@static pivot Why The Eng Bot doesn't reply my message yet

[torpid pike]

i used to have a cool life when i was living in my father's income. now i have to live on my own. 😐

[wary plover]

I can feel you but if you study or something nicely you would have good life and good job too.....I am going to be Software Engineer or something like that and my edu is also fine fine....

what

[torpid pike]

i will never do Job

[wary plover]

[torpid pike]

Its literally slavery

[wary plover]

ok

as your dreams...I will agree with you

[torpid pike]

im also reading CS. dont do it

[wary plover]

What kind of job do you have that's basically slavery!?

[torpid pike]

Job oppurtunities are not that much in Comupter Science background

[torpid pike]

9-5 with a money which can't buy me things that i want

[wary plover]

How is that slavery!? You chose that line of work, nobody's forcing you to work there! If you hate it so much why don't you quit?

s?Me

Actually my old account is better than this one

[torpid pike]

if i quite they will give me 3 months of time to get another job or leave the country. 🙂

[wary plover]

Well that doesn't sound too bad, just apply for another job for those 3 months! You're making a big fuss over nothing, get over it

[torpid pike]

i spent $60000 to come there legally

[wary plover]

https://tenor.com/view/wadafak-dude-gif-23330974

[torpid pike]

no. i mean a good job. they judge by how im performing in their economy.

[torpid pike]

its avarage for a 3rd world country boy

[wary plover]

Ok ok anyway bye take care i have to do my works bye have a great day

[torpid pike]

😐 . you said you dont have any

[wary plover]

?

[torpid pike]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-7557933667565318831

your sibling's holy income

BYE, BTW

have a good day

[wary plover]

Bruh not job...home chores....you still cant understand me...so leave it...my friend can understand me atleast they with me....

bye

[torpid pike]

bye

[feral river]

only 60000 USD ?

that is so cheap omg

what is that way ?

I thought we at least need to prepare 200000 USD to immigrate to the US

and it's a large amount

I'm not going to be a labour in the US

[thorny steeple]

Hey 👋

[vague kettle]

Hi !

[jolly agate]

Isn't it way too much even for you guys.

[jolly agate]

Should have gone to somewhere else not gonna lie

[thorny steeple]

what do u all think is the difference between culture and religion

[jolly agate]

whats the difference sky and sea

[wary plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1148833279714283600.webp?size=48&name=Pepeblob&quality=lossless

[broken birch]

The sky is up sea is down

[jolly agate]

Is that it

[thorny steeple]

that good man

[jolly agate]

The difference is only where they are positioned

[broken birch]

Okay look your question is so weird 😂

You can say the position and from what each one made and who lives there and how does it affect each

[thorny steeple]

one of them is under of us

one of them is over us

[outer mountain]

[thorny steeple]

ı suppuse things that ı said are true

[open vapor]

Hey

[feral river]

well, it's much ?

I think it's much, probably we need at least 3 year to got those money

[jolly agate]

Thats for peoples who are in high positions at their occupations, and fincally more financial more succesful then those who are facing financial burdens

[jolly agate]

I think people who dont have good occcupations whould struggle to even make 100k usd.

[jolly agate]

Im saying this because they would have to pay the rents car insurance, helth insurace, food, water, electricty eduation, buying accessory

This isn't some accurate number most of the results I found are closly similer to this.

[feral river]

per one

not per family

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[vague kettle]

Religion is what you can choose. You can convert to any existing religions, but I think you can't convert to a different culture (It even sounds weird)

[feral river]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2hO0Kyuit_g?si=7MEe643fT3PrdKHJ

There is really a lot of rich people in China

Well I’m just in the middle class only

And one day shipping service is real

Only cost less than 5 USD

You can receive a package from Shanghai to Beijing like 1000km away only 1 day

[brave zinc]

What do you do for a living?

[thorny steeple]

hello

[vague kettle]

That's so great. I used to buy a lot of things for my bike on Ali Express and the shipping takes about a month to wait.

[thorny steeple]

ı know that there are a lot of chinese here, what are thet thinking about Xinjiang policy of CCP?

[feral river]

Most of them don’t know what is happening there

And some people like me supporting their policies but empathy the people in Xinjiang

Actually the re-education camp is no longer a news and it can be searched in our website

[feral river]

Well I’m a student but I’m doing some job and earn money from my business and investments

Most of people, not me recognize the basic human rights is “western human rights”

The democracy is the weapon from the western world

“We are democratic nation, and it’s socialism democracy”

That’s what the most people think. Because they don’t know about politics at all or they don’t care

Politics is unnecessary to know in China we don’t have any elections

My friend don’t even know what is the democracy and what is the authoritarian

But we all know the money is the final solution, we don’t care which one we are if we live in a prosperous society

Chinese people loves money

Actually he is rich than me😭😭😭

He can easily go anywhere he want

I only can afford some luxuries, like iPhone 15, watches, golds, knifes…

[restive ridge]

wdym by knives being a luxury good?

[feral river]

Like kind of different knifes🤣 a katana

Well the luxury good for male

[thorny steeple]

what is happening there? in xinjiang?

[feral river]

I ever been Xinjiang, and actually now Xinjiang is stable right now

But you can see the police is everywhere

Every count have checkpoints

And cameras is everywhere

Unlike other places, we don’t have that much cameras in other places

[thorny steeple]

what do you know about falun gong as apart from this subject

[feral river]

That doesn’t exist anymore in China

Our former president Jiang Zemin, handled the situation

They are just an anti-government organization

Unlike 20 years ago, now China’s society is very stable ever than before, with little crime record

And actually our economic boomed in those years so

The second most powerful country in the world

Now it’s China

[thorny steeple]

you must be proud from your country