🧠｜serious-chat

[upper zenith]

Does someone know where´s the moderator Application?

[craggy sphinx]

Do you have a reason?

[kind granite]

https://tenor.com/view/akidcalledbeast-akcb-passing-gif-27624061

[craggy sphinx]

hello
This is strange, because you will not be able to give up your native language in the course of learning a new one.

All your thoughts will be produced in original form without realizing it.

But you will try to translate them into a completely new one for you

There is only the genius of gnosis here

For more information - #📚｜english-questions

[formal scaffold]

is it possible that I don't have a reason to be asking you that?

[craggy sphinx]

You asked a question, and this is already one of the reasons

[formal scaffold]

you mean curiosity?

[craggy sphinx]

maybe

Baker Baker baker

[night basin]

hi

[craggy sphinx]

hello

[night basin]

hello guys

[celest zenith]

Hey guys wsp

[thorny steeple]

oh, do you mean I'm brainwashed by the incident where Israel massacred civilians trying to flee the area as ISRAEL WARNED THEM?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2023/oct/14/israeli-airstrikes-hit-convoys-leaving-northern-gaza-hamas-says-video

or do you mean I'm brainwashed by videos of Israel bombing civilians live, and while reporters are trying to show the damage Palestinians are suffering?
https://youtu.be/qW-Z9vAhNuE?si=s36D67dN8bAHfhLC
https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1712857326909100519?s=20

you know what, maybe I'm brainwashed by the white phosphorous bombs that Israel used which is a GLOBALLY BANNED WEAPON.
https://youtu.be/hi7qpYHAQCw?si=8uQ6-wnzyppGNT5c

or maybe by the tones and tones of videos of Israel outright bombing innocent civilians in the spot, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW THEIR WARNINGS
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1713205439905546343?s=20
https://x.com/nour_odeh/status/1712860530694561946?s=20
https://x.com/redstreamnet/status/1713133058797273568?s=20

yes I guess I got it, maybe I'm brainwashed by all of the following heart shattering footage.
https://x.com/NE18900/status/1715281398326587775?s=20
https://x.com/N___ksa33/status/1714866102562398717?s=20

ah, I don't know, I'm still not convinced that I'm brainwashed though, oh! maybe you were talking about yourself, like Israel massacres innocent civilians and then plays the victim, I assume you're using the same tactic since you're a pro-Israel.
it's a losing game though, here are some evidence that prove you are the one brainwashed:
Israel brutally bombs Palestinian civilians as media spreads fake stories
Israel airstrikes the entrance of al-Shifaa hospital which caused the following view of people being severely injured or brutally killed

I still have many other proofs.
WARNING: some links may contain severe graphic content.

but how horrible Hamas was compared to that I wonder? 🤔
let's see this Israeli hostage talking about how bad they were after she was released.

OMG! Shampoo! how horrible Hamas is, how dare they provide them with shampoo.

[humble lion]

Flare

[thorny steeple]

wow! please lady, don't shake that Hamas solider's hand, he is a terrorist, you know, maybe he drank some tea with you, but this is an act of terrorism, right?

[thorny steeple]

the girl accused me of being brainwashed, she has no idea. 😂

[humble lion]

Which girl

[thorny steeple]

lol, maybe I'm brainwashed into being objective. xD

[humble lion]

I just came

[thorny steeple]

the one I was responding to, you can refer back to her message via the reply.

[humble lion]

His i was so comfused😂
I'll check it up later im on my way home now

Just wanted to greet u

[thorny steeple]

thanks man, I appreciate you a lot. 🫂

[maiden path]

when you say he is brainwashed think of a more tactful word. even if he is wrong is it possible that he is actually telling the truth? what's bothering you?!!

[thorny steeple]

Hey , this is a stranger, I joined this group coz I want to make a new frndss. anyone here wanna be friends?

[formal scaffold]

Temoprarly?

[versed ether]

She said before she went through hell.

[versed ether]

They called me first brainwashed, so I used the same word

[thorny steeple]

Nahh

[formal scaffold]

even if it was true you damn well know it's wrong, and not showing what she said about the food and medication and also no showing how she held the Hamas guy hand and had a nice convo with him is just disingenuous, I'm 99% sure she was referring to the hell Zionist forces Make everybody there live, including her when she was there

[covert raptor]

Do you think the Israel flag is Zionist flag?

[versed ether]

No

[versed ether]

I don’t waste any more power in this discussion

[formal scaffold]

I do the same when I encounter bitter truth

[covert raptor]

Where was the flag before the 1950s

[formal scaffold]

"I don’t waste any more power in this discussion"

[versed ether]

Google it

[devout shale]

energy*

[formal scaffold]

Nobody ows you an answer if you don't answer them

it's all fun and games until it goes against your ideology

[covert raptor]

Anyways we can condemn both Israel and Hamas. Both are brutal terrorists

[forest patio]

omg this is so gud

[formal scaffold]

Glad you liked it

[forest patio]

no it literally sums up the stuff

[thorny steeple]

Oh yeah sure, you're totally brainwashed by the lies.
https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1716793790097150000?s=20

also, take a look at the CNN post itself, and then review the comments.
https://x.com/CNN/status/1716750209890283600?s=20

she totally went through hell, I agree, imagine drinking tea with terrorists, I bet it was a hot tea, real hell.

[forest patio]

in an effective way

its actually so gud

i didnt knw this channel until now, im p sure it has more stuff than this

[formal scaffold]

there's better things out there that was released long time ago, all this killing didn't start last month you know

[forest patio]

yess ofc i knw

its not abt that

[devout shale]

i propose banning this topic

[forest patio]

u knw when u want to increase the awareness abt stuff but the videos u found are more of a "documentary" type than a "catchy" or "song" type

[formal scaffold]

I propose the opposite

[forest patio]

why does it bother u

[formal scaffold]

Even if it does, just don't read it it really does

[forest patio]

so whenever i share a long documentary i feel like ppl just skip watching it, but ppl wud definitely watch if its smth that takes attention more like the one u shared

[formal scaffold]

that's why some people tries to send messages through comedy IG

touches more mass and actually people pay attention to that

[thorny steeple]

they were doing you a favor, having someone to tell you the truth is not an easy task, what you're doing is basically called psychological projection, and it's when someone attributes a negative characteristic of their own to someone else, especially a one in opposition with your stance, this is very common tactic used by Israel, be careful, they are probably turning you into them, that's how brainwashed you are.

[forest patio]

the comedy type of shorts that i found do not cover the entire topic

[formal scaffold]

save your energy they won't reply

[forest patio]

i do share tho, but its not always effective i think

[formal scaffold]

it's enough to make people interested or see the main idea

[devout shale]

seems like football match fights, i had enough. Also we cant change things by arguing about it.

[forest patio]

yesss

[formal scaffold]

For instance I love dave chapelle

[forest patio]

i didnt read the recent convo thats going on, if u dont mind me which exact topic are u talking abt that u dont want to see

[formal scaffold]

there's a new technology called 'ignore what you don't like' try that for a minute

[forest patio]

let me see

[formal scaffold]

Bill burr is also one of my fav comedians

[thorny steeple]

yeah, it doesn't matter, people would still see my response, which would expose how certain pro-Israel people use psychological projection and lies that they've been feed by the media to support their stance, which is still weak after all that effort.

[forest patio]

do they talk abt political stuff too

i dont really watch comedians

[devout shale]

israel-palestine fight

[forest patio]

oh

[formal scaffold]

Definitely, although i don't agree with everything they say, they make great points, and they say things that may get them cancelled

Andrew shultz too

[forest patio]

i actually believe ur perspective is wrong, comparing a talk abt an ongoing massacre to a football match fights doesnt really sound good either

we arent really arguing instead increasing awareness over these things, so that steps abt this matter can be taken such as boycotting them, also knowing the history of stuff is important

[thorny steeple]

ah man, I feel bad when I see people support Israel despite how pathetically weak their stance and evidence are, being Israel is evil enough, but supporting what it's doing, Jeez, it's a whole another level of evil.

[forest patio]

i agree

i am (not) sorry and i dont knw if i ll be cyber bullied by stating this but i find supporting them is inhumane

[thorny steeple]

totally inhuman. 💯

[forest patio]

ooh i ll check them out

[forest patio]

woah it seems like u watch a lot of comedians

[formal scaffold]

was lol

[forest patio]

oh so u used to, and not watching anymore

[devout shale]

was not referring to you, but some people act like that

[formal scaffold]

they aren't releasing much clips lately

[forest patio]

hmm

[forest patio]

oh i see 👍

brb

[grave temple]

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Serious chat is used for more insightful and deep conversations. I don't think your contributing much to any conversation.

[fading abyss]

unless you are the owner

[grave temple]

???

[lusty zenith]

Always multiple arguments in #🧠｜serious-chat

[craggy sphinx]

hello beings of the upper light

[feral folio]

hello vile creatures

[ornate siren]

Almost as vile as you

[feral folio]

thy shant utter words of ass quality

[ornate siren]

Not the most acceptable form of grammar there

[lusty zenith]

I like this greeting. Foul air be upon you, fellow vile creaturé

[ornate siren]

Fair is foul, and foul is fair;
Hover through the fog and filthy air.

[lusty zenith]

London

[ornate siren]

Scotland

From the same Scottish play that you know of.

[lusty zenith]

I do? Only things I know about Scotland are their slangs and... yeah that's about it

[ornate siren]

Sed

I'm talking about goddamn Macbeth.

[ornate siren]

Spoken by the 3 weird sisters, the witches at the end of Act I, Scene I.

[lusty zenith]

Man be learned. Only thing I know about Macbeth is its existence. I should read it.

[ornate siren]

Very much understandable

[craggy sphinx]

hello beings of the upper light

[serene birch]

Is there any lower light?

[deft parcel]

Hello, everybody, I'm looking for a English teacher to teach me

Of course, I will pay for you

And I'm not beginner, but I wanna speak fluently and listen in English

If you are interested in, feel free to touch me anytime.

At that time I wanna discuss about the salary.

[brittle field]

I'm ok..(tulong pakiusap hindi siya marunong magsalita ng wikang ito
)

[thorny steeple]

lads and lassies?

[lusty zenith]

Kip means going to sleep/napping
Specs means glasses
Ken means know
Among others means inter alia

[formal scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBHAitSKtVs

[lavish finch]

Ok

[lavish finch]

That’s a very bad idea.

It is already banned in many places.

And many people have already been punished for talking about it.

[formal scaffold]

If it's that anoyying to some we can create a thread for that

[lavish finch]

No

It’s ok for people to be annoyed, we don’t need to fix anything if people are annoyed.

[forest patio]

imagine banning this topic in serious-chat where everyone's supposed to talk abt serious stuff

[lavish finch]

Imagine banning it in an entire country and still calling that country a democracy.

[forest patio]

exactly

[lavish finch]

Banning free speech is like advocating for murder and theft.

If people cannot talk and think freely they can only act without thinking.

[forest patio]

ikr

thats why these topics especially when its abt massacres and innocent children dying, should be kept up to date and regardless of how much they try to silence us we shud talk abt it more

[lusty zenith]

[lavish finch]

Yes, if we want to keep our humanity it is necessesary to push back against such repression of our humanity.

Don’t you agree @lusty zenith

[forest patio]

like i used to wonder how ppl cudnt stop massacres in the history, but now all of us are witnessing these
the history repeats itself, so many things can be done abt these, we shud start from some point because they wont stop unless they the armageddon starts

[lavish finch]

Yes

[forest patio]

ppl go like "whats the use of talking abt stuff that u cant do anything abt", its actually important because in fact we can do many things regarding it, and also its a fact that we are likely to be dragged by WW3 by whatever is happening

[lusty zenith]

Uhhhh. Well I'd rather not get into the topic. But I do think Discord is not the best place to discuss such things. No changes are gonna be made here, a server where people come primarily to learn English and not to discuss political matters or the state of the world. I've always thought of #🧠｜serious-chat as a place to debate about subjects, not a place to debate about serious subjects

[lavish finch]

So you’re here to argue.

[lusty zenith]

I'm just here to creep

[lavish finch]

You’re arguing

[lusty zenith]

I am now

[formal scaffold]

We are actually using english if you didn't notice

[lusty zenith]

I said learning English, not just using it, if you didn't notice

[lavish finch]

Still arguing

[lusty zenith]

I am now

[formal scaffold]

Also according to that we shouldn't use the any of the other channels (gaming, selfie, programming, animals, creativity...) those artist need to find another servers

[lavish finch]

Would you like to continue arguing or go back to observing?

[lusty zenith]

Only when I'm asked to voice my opinion

[forest patio]

i think the more we increase the awareness, the better we are showing our stance and uniting against these stuff
how can this even be a topic that increasing awareness in children suffering is a bother to ppl, they get bothered and annoyed to see lmao; isnt it rather better to speak up than actually trying silencing ppl

[lusty zenith]

If you think so, sure

[forest patio]

dont join the convo if u are THAT bothered then lmao

[lavish finch]

What if you’re asked not to voice your opinion?

[lusty zenith]

Then I'll just say "okay"

[forest patio]

lmao 💀

no i aint gonna argue

bai yall

[lavish finch]

Arguing is a way of silencing people.

Pushing in opposite opinions that disrupt a conversation.

Creating noise and chaos

[lusty zenith]

I remember you saying arguing is necessary for the advancement of humanity or something though

[formal scaffold]

So as long as you're not pushy about it, you can bring your opposite opinion right?

[lavish finch]

No, I don’t remember saying that.

Kimcheater

[lusty zenith]

Must be my imagination then

[lavish finch]

I don’t think so

it’s not your memory

It is more likely your imagination

Would you like to put your imagination aside and understand others?

Ok, returning to the topic

[lusty zenith]

Uhhh only if I feel like their view is valid

[lavish finch]

So back to arguing

[lusty zenith]

That was an agreement

[lavish finch]

No

It’s not

[lusty zenith]

Yes. It is

And that was an argument

[lavish finch]

You’re interrupting a conversation

[lusty zenith]

I answered as I was asked

[lavish finch]

I’d like you to be quiet.

[lusty zenith]

I'd like to speak up whenever I have an opinion

[lavish finch]

You don’t do everything that’s asked of you.

You do what you want.

[lusty zenith]

I never said that I did

[lavish finch]

But then you justify your actions by saying the reason is because someone asked you to do some thing.

In fact you asked yourself to do it.

[lusty zenith]

That was what happened

[lavish finch]

Again you’re just arguing.

[lusty zenith]

I am clarifying, yes

[lavish finch]

Pushing your opinions in.

[lusty zenith]

Hmmm I think that's more you than me

[lavish finch]

Opinions which are opposite to the sub group that’s currently working.

I think you just like to argue.

[lusty zenith]

I'm starting to think so too

But then that would be more like an agreement than an argument

[lavish finch]

You’re just reacting to what I say.

[lusty zenith]

That is the essence of a conversation, yes

[lavish finch]

No not at all.

[lusty zenith]

Now this is an argument

[lavish finch]

I increased the interval of slow mode. To five minutes.

[lusty zenith]

I see. See you in 5 minutes then

[lavish finch]

This is an example of a role lock.

For those of you who have heard me talk about role locks before.

They are created by the group as a whole.

Groups have a way of pushing some thing into one member.

In this case it is a desire to argue.

[lusty zenith]

I see. My ability to voice my opinion is now limited. Very interesting, considering we were just talking about freedom of speech earlier

[lavish finch]

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with the freedom to do what you’d like to do.

As you are demonstrating you’d like to change the topic by force.

You’d like to go to a meeting and scream over the people presenting with your opposie opinions.

That’s not freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech is not the freedom to shout down people you disagree with.

I have muted Kimcheater.

And returned slowmode to 5 second intervals.

I think it’s a strategy of some people who oppose free-speech to disrupt conversations and then claim hypocrisy when the disruptions are squashed.

We’ve seen that with certain types of protests where people would like the freedom to deplatform a speaker they disagree with.

They come to where they are speaking and make noise.

I don’t consider that part of free-speech.

We can certainly hear any opinions. But not simultaneously to each other.

We can hear them in turn.

[humble lion]

Uneducational

[static pivot]

Hello there

[devout shale]

you could easily just have ignored her instead of muting since you are proposing ignoring as a reaction to unwanted arguments as opposed to banning

[thorny steeple]

Hell guys ı have a question

ı am from turkey and anti americanism is very usual and ordinary thing in my country,we grew by hearing war crimes of america ın Iraq etc.

I am wondering,What do average or ordinary american citizen think about her/his country's policies?

[formal scaffold]

you mean the united states of america

[thorny steeple]

yes

[formal scaffold]

I wouldn't blame them for supporting their country if it's coming from a nationalism feeling

[lavish finch]

They were not banned. They were muted for 30 min.

[thorny steeple]

ı am not blaming anybody onlı ı want to understand

[lavish finch]

And they did nothing wrong.

[devout shale]

same logic

[lavish finch]

No, it's not.

You'd like me to know that I can ignore people.

[craggy sphinx]

hello beings of the upper light

[craggy sphinx]

what do you mean ?

[lavish finch]

It's true, I can ignore people, and often do.

Ignore might not be the best word.

Prioritize where I'm putting my attention.

[formal scaffold]

I tried to understand why you muted him earlier, and based on what I saw it was for the best of the large group that was having an ongoing conversation, and bc they tried to bring chaos instead of trying to find common grounds with the large groupe wich will disturb the flow of the conversation

[craggy sphinx]

why?

[lavish finch]

It was my mistake, really.

I forgot that I'm not teaching a class in this channel.

[humble lion]

@lusty zenith

[craggy sphinx]

Is it because you don't perceive others?

[lavish finch]

If I was teaching a class I would use my power to increase the chances of having a meaningful conversation.

If I'm not teaching a class then I would not interfere. But I'd defer to the authority of the space.

[formal scaffold]

I'll try to use the Rise English forum more instead

[lavish finch]

My authority in this channel has fluctuated. At times I have had full moderator powers, but I don't at the moment.

[formal scaffold]

I do agree with your method but I'm still adapting to it

[lavish finch]

It's just a method. I sometimes perform it better than other times.

[formal scaffold]

yeah without it, it'll be chaotic, and both parties will be emotional more than rational

[lavish finch]

When I'm performing the role of teacher, I understand one of my duties as filtering out noise.

Determining what is noise and what is signal is always a judgement call.

Others can and often do disagree about that call.

Sometimes I later disagree with myself after making a call.

[formal scaffold]

I'd mostly agree since it's more fun to have an (give and take) convo

remindes me of the conferences they hold in college and some people would shout outside their rightfull time to speak which even if what they shouted was true I wouldn't appretiate it

[lavish finch]

If you were in the class I taught 2 hours ago you'd have seen that I invited in a conversation that others felt was noise and wanted me to filter out.

[formal scaffold]

I wasn't there, and I Can't say for sure if it was a good or bad call, might be good for some or bad for some

althought I agree with filtering noise it's the responsability of the teacher to find an alternative way for those people to voice their opinion

or that'll destroy their confidence slowly

It's a hard thing to deal with I'm glad I'm not a teacher

[lavish finch]

It's pretty straight forward

It's not an issue between student and teacher.

That part is clear for me.

But I teach a lot and sometimes I forget that I'm not a teacher in every space and can get myself into trouble that way.

If I attempt to teach someone who has not agreed to learn from me it doesn't work.

[formal scaffold]

Idk about others but you can mute me if you see that fit

I would lie if I say it won't disturb me, but I'd definetly benefit from it in the future

[lusty zenith]

Hi

[molten ether]

can we talk about lgbt in this channel?

[humble lion]

Only if u hate on them

[cobalt drum]

good morning , very early morning

☀️

[smoky skiff]

You have fabricated this whole "argument" based on Kimcheater stating their desire to: "Uhhhh. Well I'd rather not get into the topic. " In response to your question " don't you agree". And whilst your discussion is on free speech to topics, you have bullied kimcheater into submission with an agenda of how to discuss topics, and then censor them, with a mute.

Your standard of serious may be too high for many people learning English in this hub and not meeting that standard should not be met with mute.

[cobalt drum]

hmmm

this is very interesting

[covert raptor]

To err is human

[tough gull]

fr

[formal scaffold]

Mark my words, Tomorrow ... France

[manic prawn]

Hii miles

[covert raptor]

What? Protests?

[formal scaffold]

a self attack, future justification

[craggy sphinx]

hello
This is more rhetorical than serious

Why shout over someone?

[ornate siren]

To forgive, divine

[thorny steeple]

FREE PALESTINE

[hallow tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wjXm8USEadg

[thorny steeple]

!ban @dawn trench

[crisp token]

Banned hmar#3824

[forest patio]

lmao the name

[maiden path]

i want help with my physics problem, i want to isolate V, anyone help pls

[smoky skiff]

You have the answer there

[maiden path]

is it right what i did?

[smoky skiff]

Well i didn't check how accurate it was, but...

[humble lion]

Divide both sides by (m.g.h2 + 1/2.m)

Then take square root

Voila

[maiden path]

not sure understood

[neon gorge]

Hey everyone! 👋 I'm here to offer a helping hand with your assignments and PowerPoint presentations. If you need assistance with research, writing, or creating engaging slides, feel free to reach out. I'm open to various subjects...

[humble lion]

Well, how do i explain here

[smoky skiff]

Looks ok on first read

[thorny steeple]

to forgive is divine

[thorny steeple]

bruh 😂

[maiden path]

ja but i'm not sure if the third and line are right

[thorny steeple]

like we have caught it

[smoky skiff]

No there is an error

[maiden path]

👍🏾

[smoky skiff]

The 2 is multiple to both top ...

2(gh1 - gh2)^0.5

[maiden path]

what about this?

thank u soo much @smoky skiff

[thorny steeple]

Hey

[prime hornet]

It's too serious!😁

[rich mountain]

Is there anyone who knows about python and please reply.

what is the different between array and turple?

or with other programming languages such as java or c#?

[formal scaffold]

https://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/1029442771070754866

i think in here you'll get more help about python

[rich mountain]

ok.. tk

[humble lion]

@livid tulip

[dry kindle]

physics problem,

headache guy

python, really complexiable

rimi is this your homework?

[dusk birch]

Hello guys

Is anyone here from the U.S.?

[silver vale]

Hello everyone

nice to meet you.

[static pivot]

Morning🌞

[orchid totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1165243333250134087/1170326552794365952/PPRZC1YHF08Q68U24B.gif?ex=6558a289&is=65462d89&hm=7c57c9b65951cf36edbb6b6f48a0cbd7b9cd51b994c90f772630424fb50763c4&

[thorny steeple]

Hey all

[craggy sphinx]

hello beings of the upper light

[orchid totem]

hello

[craggy sphinx]

hello

[full canyon]

hi

[orchid totem]

Unintentional offense

[craggy sphinx]

@full canyon , @orchid totem , You can continue what you started in the general chat

[scarlet stratus]

News : (Collapse approaching)

- Israel economy is going down and America loses too much money to help Israel, Israel is suffering now .

[lavish finch]

Talking about stuff is a way to learn about stuff.

[forest patio]

huh, what is happening?

hello there

[lavish finch]

Hi

[forest patio]

its an old msg from yesterday

[lavish finch]

I’m responding to your comment from yesterday.

[forest patio]

alrighty

[lavish finch]

Talking about stuff is a way to learn about stuff.

So when people say that talking accomplishes nothing, they miss that self education is accomplishing something valuable.

[lavish finch]

So I agree with this. The more important an issue the more value there is in talking about it.

[forest patio]

learning anything in life is essential, self-education is vital for every individual being
but we are living in an age where it is taken lightly, ppl are more focused on entertainment and/or making money through social media than self-educating about serious topics on what is going on, on world

[forest patio]

exactly, we should increase the awareness and keep it up-to-date
when we forget thats when it repeats itself

organisations can be made, boycotting can continue regarding this; dont take it as "oh its just only me whose boycotting" no dear its maybe thousands or millions from every country, many ppl are sharing in their socials and some governments banning their products on public transport,parliments etc too
it literally matters no matter how lightly u take it

it is an ethnic cleansing, protests from whole world are made and still going on

correct now

[lavish finch]

I understood the word you were looking for perhaps was “straightforward” or “textbook example of”

[forest patio]

yes

thank u

[lavish finch]

You may be aware that some states in the US, including my state of NY, have attempted to make it illegal to boycott Israel.

We are allowed to boycott any other country, and even other US states. But amazingly they want to make boycotting just one state illegal.

NY state itself boycotted other US states.

By not allowing state workers to travel to certain states they felt had behaved badly.

And some state workers were forced to sign papers to agree not to boycott Israel.

[forest patio]

yes, in turkey the parliment is boycotting its products, also we hv gathered votes to boycott their products on public transport in here,
and we are educating individuals to not buy their products, so whenever i go to market, near the cashier they put products on discount yeah? their products are on discount and no one is buying
i hear children of age 7-9 talking abt not buying coca cola because its israeli product, they literally knw whats going on and theres a recent video ,i think a few days old, a child brought a chips package back wanting to change it with another package since he got to knw its an israeli brand

[lavish finch]

But I don’t think such laws can survive in the US. They will be nullified by the 1st ammendment.

People can boycott whoever they want.

[forest patio]

these stuff actually matter a lot in terms of where do u stand in this massacre, its abt knowing that buying things is a form of support to them so u wud simply avoid them if u knw the product,
like mentally u would make a relation between ur moral responsibility abt it etc, even this is a form or protest against them

and its going on

[forest patio]

its interesting

[forest patio]

wow

[lavish finch]

Yes it is.

[forest patio]

i see

its also that i dont think it wud work in the US where the country or governm, not the public, is supporting it

like if the leader is supporting what can be done unless protesting

i ll brb since i hv an exam today, after im done w it i ll reply*

[lavish finch]

We have a presidential candidate named Nikki Haley who is in favor of endless support for militarism and is opposed to all money for services for people like healthcare or social security or education.

They are a favorite in the media.

But people are against such policies.

[orchid totem]

What do you think of abortion rights

[lavish finch]

I’m in favor of them. What do you think about them?

[orchid totem]

I support abortion

If a girl is raped and cannot have an abortion, it is a great satire on freedom

[toxic plover]

@forest patio cool name, i approve

[latent ledge]

Why did i move here? I guess it was the weather

[thorny steeple]

More people will need more food; more food will cause more damage; they will do more work and cause more pollution; some will not know how to manage their finances and will invite poverty; people will need more homes; more conflicts are likely to happen; and above all, a lot of people don't know how to nurture a child these days, so yes, abortion is acceptable. Some people even leave their kids in orphanages. It is better to have an abortion, first become capable of taking care of children, and then have them.

[thorny steeple]

Anyone who lacks the love or commitment to raise a child should not become a parent, in my opinion.

[orchid totem]

So you said that parents in Gaza should not have children

This may not be accurate

[pseudo cradle]

Everybody has a right to have childrin but this would be irresponsible

[thorny steeple]

Yes, Yes.

[pseudo cradle]

[orchid totem]

One child dies every five minutes in Gaza

[thorny steeple]

I mean, if you think the environment is good for nurturing a new life, then you can sure make as many babies as you want.

[orchid totem]

Human rights in the United States do not apply to the people of Gaza

[orchid totem]

The reality is exactly the opposite

Often the poorer the child, the more children they have

[thorny steeple]

Therefore, you shouldn't have children unless you enjoy killing them.

[thorny steeple]

because of a lack of education.

they start believing that their children will give them what they never had

[formal scaffold]

I'd like to get the gift of life even in GAZA

[thorny steeple]

and get trapped

[orchid totem]

Israelis should be expelled from the Middle East

[thorny steeple]

People don't get everything that they want in their lives, but sometimes one can get lucky.

[orchid totem]

Their extreme right wing is too terrifying

[formal scaffold]

I'm glad my ancesstors gave birth of my grandparents during the revolution for freedom and they've been doing it for years

[orchid totem]

where are you from

[formal scaffold]

sometimes living in a comfy place make your decision differ from those who lives in rubble and occupation you can never understand them

Most of them believe in afterlife

[thorny steeple]

I know everything I say is subjective, but people living in that place do not even have the time to think and say; they are fighting for their lives.

[pseudo cradle]

Thats poetic

[thorny steeple]

we are just commentators

[orchid totem]

sure

I only want the Israelis to be punished now

[thorny steeple]

I am telling you bro, a lack of education, the easy way out.

[orchid totem]

Why do you say that

[formal scaffold]

can you explain further?

[orchid totem]

lack of education

[pseudo cradle]

What you think of this consideration: The one who is rich , is as happy as the person who is in the middle class

[orchid totem]

Where do you come from

[pseudo cradle]

me?

[formal scaffold]

the one who manages value is the happiest

[orchid totem]

sure

[pseudo cradle]

schwitzerland

[thorny steeple]

very deep topic, on a voice chat I will

[pseudo cradle]

switzerland?

[formal scaffold]

there's no big difference

[pseudo cradle]

I depends on the person I think

[formal scaffold]

for a middle class person it would look like the rich is happiest for a rich guy it'd look similar

[thorny steeple]

The one who is content from within and is loved but doesn't get obsessed with fame, gets depressed by the criticism, and doesn't feel the need to be validated is rich.

[formal scaffold]

exatly

[orchid totem]

What do you think of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[pseudo cradle]

You are all so poetic and speaking facts

[thorny steeple]

both should shake hands and end it

[formal scaffold]

I mean I was shocked hearing the events that was reavealed during amber turd with jhonny depp juridical conflict

[pseudo cradle]

not that easy

[thorny steeple]

I didn't see that one bruh so I do not have the context 😂

[thorny steeple]

that's just what I think

[orchid totem]

never

[formal scaffold]

I was discussing that yesterday, why do rich folks consumes more drugs compared to less fortunate people?

[thorny steeple]

more stress, more sycophancy, more betrayals

[formal scaffold]

maybe it's the same percentage but that prooves that they aren't as happy as less fortunate people image them to be*

[formal scaffold]

agreed

[thorny steeple]

the less people you chill with, the less crap you deal with

[formal scaffold]

the more you experince expensive stuff the more they lose their value

[thorny steeple]

they are only expensive because people give them value

if I ever meet depp I would talk with him the same way I talk to skuggi

[formal scaffold]

👆🏾

[thorny steeple]

🙏

have you heard about the alexandar and diogenes story?

it is like Israel and Palestine

I will send it to you wait

[formal scaffold]

yes I did but just a post

[pseudo cradle]

You should really meet many people and have enough friends + close friends. They can help you and you can help them

[orchid totem]

The Story of Farmers and Snakes

[pseudo cradle]

What

[formal scaffold]

the one where he told him move out the sun??

[thorny steeple]

The world is enough to help them, if they will need my help, they will find me.

[thorny steeple]

the one where he was trying to conquer the world

[orchid totem]

Everybody has heard of the fable about the relationship between the farmer and the snake.

[formal scaffold]

I'd be the farmer sometimes even if i know that i'll get bitten

[orchid totem]

Palestinians kindly accept Israelis but are expelled from their homes

[formal scaffold]

Muslims are ordered to take care of the people of the book

[thorny steeple]

sent you in your dms

[orchid totem]

They killed you back

[formal scaffold]

death isn't the worst outcome, and higher justice exists

[thorny steeple]

The law of nature is to balance. Create, preserve, and destroy.

Change is eternal.

[orchid totem]

So Muslims use human bombs

[formal scaffold]

some does, but it's not an islamic thing at all

[thorny steeple]

lack of education

[orchid totem]

They were brainwashed

[formal scaffold]

If a muslim is a serial killer that wouldn't mean anything, as much as if the us has school shootings

[thorny steeple]

true that

It is easy to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

[formal scaffold]

true that

[thorny steeple]

Bombers know that very well

Greed and fear could make you do anything

[formal scaffold]

if they have studied islam they weren't going to do this in the first place

[thorny steeple]

true, religion endorses peace, not violence.

[orchid totem]

When you're in it, you'll do the same

[thorny steeple]

no doubt

[formal scaffold]

yeah

that's why you should read about islam

[orchid totem]

No matter how good your education is

[thorny steeple]

I have read a little, but I do not blindly believe in the Quran.

[formal scaffold]

if you hear passages from it and judges is based on that it's quiet unjust

[formal scaffold]

do you know the laws of War in ISlam?

[thorny steeple]

True education would not get you in all this mess.

[thorny steeple]

No no, I do not.

[orchid totem]

Why don't you help Palestine

[thorny steeple]

But I assume they would have an ethical way of doing it

[formal scaffold]

there are two type of war 'fath' which has ended

[thorny steeple]

Terrorists need help not the families

[formal scaffold]

and "preserve" which is on going

[thorny steeple]

what is fath?

[formal scaffold]

god ordered "fath" to protect the relegion and message from withering in a time where wars highly common

[thorny steeple]

oh I see

[formal scaffold]

to be realistic you had to commit to war by god order only not on a whim

[orchid totem]

Israel is more like terrorism

[thorny steeple]

Trust me bro, god is playing with us, it's a game.

[formal scaffold]

when the fath has ended we spread the message in a peacefull manner while having the right to protect the lands they spread islam in

[orchid totem]

How many people have Hamas killed and Israel

[formal scaffold]

all of that while not harming envirement childs elders uncapable fighters thos who surrender females

[thorny steeple]

Both are, not going to lie, Even I am.

[formal scaffold]

to kill some one you have to face them fight them honorably and strike them in a way that wont torture them

do no use fire weapons or weapins that would torture a human like poison or anything like it

[thorny steeple]

You should read the Art of War bro, it is impeccable.

[formal scaffold]

if anyone surrenders he'll be a prisoner, and prisoners will be living outside working like every muslim and getting paid but doesn't have right to hold a weapon and then released after few years up to 7

[thorny steeple]

Do you know about ideological subversion?

[formal scaffold]

no

[orchid totem]

Sun Tzu's Art of War?

[formal scaffold]

like conquering you ideologically?

[thorny steeple]

yes yes, breaking your morals, and culture.

[formal scaffold]

try that on the roman and perisan empires who were ruling the world back then xD

[thorny steeple]

The best way to destroy a society is to kill their education system, burn their schools and universities and destroy their libraries.

it's slow but it works

[orchid totem]

What Israel is doing now

[formal scaffold]

I highly doubt you can do that without killing nobody

[thorny steeple]

less killing more damage

[formal scaffold]

logical and rational

[thorny steeple]

less resistance more current

[formal scaffold]

reminds me of dictator ship, making people stupid so that they can control them

[thorny steeple]

they are like china, they bamboozle everyone

[orchid totem]

wtf

I am Chinese

[formal scaffold]

no you are a cave raider

[orchid totem]

What do you mean?

[thorny steeple]

"The government of clever people". - Acharya Rajneesh Chill Osho

[thorny steeple]

if you know you know

[thorny steeple]

have a meeting with your PM/President bro 😂

[formal scaffold]

democracyyyy is basically is

Brody is touching grass, I wish i can go out today

[thorny steeple]

I have been to Shanghai once, people were behaving nicely.

[thorny steeple]

You sure will Samurai

[orchid totem]

Chinese people are enthusiastic towards foreigners

[thorny steeple]

No wonder they are flowering in tourism sector.

[formal scaffold]

peace out guys ❤️

[orchid totem]

However, it is not very attractive to foreign countries now

I don't know why

[thorny steeple]

🕊️ 🙏

[orchid totem]

Where do you come from

[open bobcat]

why #🫂｜beginner-chat looks more serious than #🧠｜serious-chat itself ?

[thorny steeple]

because you are a beginner

[open bobcat]

said the guy with edited message, ahaha

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[thorny steeple]

Also, I have a question. I don't know if you will get my perception, but let us try. Don't you think it would be more like asking for sympathy or empathy than a solution? Do you think if you were in the same situation, you would be able to think, feel, find an appropriate solution, and fight for your life simultaneously? That is like a sick patient telling the doctor to be sick first and then find a cure for his illness. Imagine you go to a therapist, and now the therapist is crying with you. They are in a situation where they do not have the resources and freedom to feel or think anything and find a way. Do you think if you were in the same place, you would be able to get them out of this mess, or would you ask for help from a person who is peaceful and has the resources to provide and offer you an adequate solution?

Why would they want you to understand their pain if it is not helping them to progress but instead regressing their growth? I do not have a reason to deny that pain teaches you a lot of things, but if someone is suffering from excessive pain, would you neutralize it or start pondering about being in the same situation or a diluted version of it? Because they think they pretty much want a comfortable life that we have too.

[formal scaffold]

you can't help somebody who sunk in moving sands while being in moving sands i get it

[orchid totem]

where are you form

[thorny steeple]

India

[thorny steeple]

Yes that was my point, thank you 🙏

[ebon pelican]

guys, don't you think that toxic parenting has increased a lot these days? And how to deal with that? Whats your thoughts

[silver zodiac]

what you mean by toxic parenting

[ebon pelican]

Like Always believing they're right because they're the adult and therefore not letting the child have any say.

It's very common in most Asian countries

[formal scaffold]

Agreed, it changed forms today, poeple were seeing toxic parenting as parents who physically harms their kids or restric their freedom, which is kinda true, i can argue that later, now toxic parenting is giving their kids complete freedom, being irresponsible toward them, and not offering assistance, paren'ts having an unstable relationship, being a bad role model, having kids without marriage and finally abortion

[silver zodiac]

is wont be correct all the time , its because of they care about their child,also they dont want to be thier child gett in to any harm . its not a toxic parenting

[ebon pelican]

what you've mentioned is indeed one aspect, but here specifically, it's about not being willing to accept that there is a generation gap between you and your children

[ebon pelican]

Agree

[formal scaffold]

with physical punishment and restrictions it's about the degree of it, and the intentions, if my parents intend the best for me and lower the degree with both I'm fine with it, but if they beat me to relieve stress or restrict my freedom severly and not for my own benefit but for theirs also unaccaptable

[formal scaffold]

it can be that too

[silver zodiac]

sorry if my english to bad

[formal scaffold]

Nah you good

[silver zodiac]

bro afaq, try understand from thier side

what will be your condition when you became a parent

[formal scaffold]

they are well experienced in life

[silver zodiac]

i think asians are most respecting their parents in life

also they give value to thier experience

[formal scaffold]

same applies in 3rd world countries or religious countries

[silver zodiac]

yeah

whats mean by 3rd world countries

[formal scaffold]

countries that are poor or undevelopped

[silver zodiac]

ok

[ebon pelican]

if parents are strict with their children for a specific reason, it makes sense, but if parents tell their children that their thoughts are wrong and only their own thoughts are right, that's incorrect. Yes, I understand their experiences , but treating children based on their generation is also the responsibility of parents. However, in our current situation, where children are misbehaved and don't listen to anyone, on the other hand, parents also don't properly nurture their children, don't give them special attention, they can't form a bond with their children, which leads to children feeling depressed these days.

[thorny steeple]

Love and law are contradictory phenomena.

[formal scaffold]

can you give an example of the generation issue?

[silver zodiac]

yeah i agree

[thorny steeple]

They haven't figured it out themselves; hence, they are trying their best but are unable to nurture a life.

[silver zodiac]

i think its because of the changes happening daily life and may there are not observing change that happening in the society

[thorny steeple]

https://youtu.be/5ocbZhRQS9I

watch this

[silver zodiac]

i dont like this guy

he is form india

[formal scaffold]

I love osho xD

[silver zodiac]

a fraud

what happens when a human gets all freedom

they became a animal

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-bump-new-girl-oh-yeah-friends-boom-gif-3553166

[thorny steeple]

so you think animals are bad?

[silver zodiac]

no they dont have any commitments

[ebon pelican]

U can agree and disagree with someone... If u don't like someone maybe sometime they make sense...

[thorny steeple]

Society is trying to tame you because everyone is afraid of your wild and true nature.

[ebon pelican]

Agree

[thorny steeple]

We have already done that to tigers, not going to lie.

[craggy sphinx]

spiral?who noticed?

[silver zodiac]

the thinks make a human a human is the decipline and control over him on imotions and the sex u

[thorny steeple]

I think that the nature has a way of balancing things, doesn't matter if it goes with our way or not.

Eveything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

[craggy sphinx]

What do you mean by "Trying to tame"?

[formal scaffold]

I value that and accepting my animal human side too

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think so

[ebon pelican]

if there were no laws in this world or people were not governed by a system, perhaps humans would be so cruel that chaos would reign throughout the world.

[thorny steeple]

by bombarding you with ideologies, doctrines, cultures, religions, and dogmas.

[craggy sphinx]

Are you forced to confess a particular religion?

[formal scaffold]

Medival times had few laws compared to now, notice how life was then

[thorny steeple]

they confuse you so you can't have a perception of your own, and you go on borrowing thinking from them which is how they control you without telling you that they are controlling you.

[formal scaffold]

I agree on that partially

[ebon pelican]

Yeah i agree

[thorny steeple]

I wouldn't be surprised if I were; people do the best that they can.

[ebon pelican]

Agree with you bro

[formal scaffold]

you can't escape all those shackles even if you feel like you do, you simply don't see them, the norms that has been affecting you by your surrounding

[thorny steeple]

It can be for the good or bad but it is borrowed.

[craggy sphinx]

The "knowledge" you have is testimonial

You accept as fact what is given to you as "knowledge". Are you easy to agitate?

[formal scaffold]

I dislike borrowed stuff too

[thorny steeple]

yes that is true but you can try being aware.

[formal scaffold]

not to that degree

[formal scaffold]

it's a wise thing to do

[thorny steeple]

yes bro

[craggy sphinx]

Thus, it is silly to say that you are bombarded with unauthenticities

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/team-bones-gif-24015799

[formal scaffold]

a life time isn't enough to build yr own knowledge without borrowing, so I do choose what I borrow and prefer to be free thinker mostly

[craggy sphinx]

No one wants to ask why I put the knowledge in quotation marks?

[formal scaffold]

why?

[odd musk]

@safe ridge
u call hamas terrorists and what israel did is not?

[odd musk]

do you have eyes bro or??

[formal scaffold]

Hamas means excitement

[safe ridge]

Do you think a group who kills who kills their own civilians if they try to leave the country is not terrorist?

[craggy sphinx]

because there are none.

[thorny steeple]

I am saying try it, be with it, but do not hesitate to drop or edit it if you do not feel content with it.

[formal scaffold]

hard to grasp

[safe ridge]

I'm not saying Palestinians deserve to die, but hamas do

[odd musk]

who told u hamas kills Palestinians?

[craggy sphinx]

Why should I agree with them?

[safe ridge]

You don't make research, right? You just get your info from TV

I can tell

[craggy sphinx]

What is knowledge?

[thorny steeple]

that is how we roll.

[odd musk]

bro i last time i turned on my tv was 1 year ago,

i just asked a question

answer me

[formal scaffold]

information about diffrent stuff that we either observed or learned

[latent ledge]

@odd musk u really wanna do that

[safe ridge]

So you should know it is real

[odd musk]

it's my daily hoppy

[safe ridge]

I'm gonna share the source

[odd musk]

what exactly?

[thorny steeple]

do not if you do not want to

[craggy sphinx]

How reliable is this information?

[odd musk]

ok

[latent ledge]

U right lessgoo 🔥

[formal scaffold]

the most reliable infos are the ones you can confirme with your five senses

[latent ledge]

Plz dont share kids dying or dead body becuz its illegal here

[thorny steeple]

All I know is I know nothing. Even if I do it is negligible.

[craggy sphinx]

Are you being forced to do it?

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think so.

[safe ridge]

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ryjyna7qa

[formal scaffold]

can you develope?

[safe ridge]

I won't

[latent ledge]

Wait u saying that hamas kill pelestinian

[craggy sphinx]

How does this relate to the question of "accuracy of knowledge"?

[latent ledge]

✨Good

[formal scaffold]

Allegedly: used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.

[thorny steeple]

That's a tricky question because the people who are bombarding you with the ideas are not aware that they are bombarding you. So I would not call it force. Very few people would be aware about what they are doing and why they are doing it.

[safe ridge]

Sure, it is a terrorist group

[odd musk]

ok im gonna get some killed ppl images and type on it israel kills them, is that an evidence for you?

[craggy sphinx]

Why do you say "bombard"?
I guess it's not organic.

[formal scaffold]

if you don't think your five sense are the top way to confirme knowledge, i want to know what is it then?

[odd musk]

[latent ledge]

U know that gaza civilians is the first ppl who supporting hamas and joining how they can kill them selves ??

[safe ridge]

Bro.... I even confirmed it by someone from Palestinia

[formal scaffold]

did you read what allegedly means?

[ebon pelican]

The example of Israel is similar to someone coming to your house seeking refuge because there was injustice happening in the world at that time, and they came to your house asking for shelter. You provided them refuge in your house and they brought all their relatives into your house and then claimed that the house belongs to them and demanded you to give it to them. When you refused to give them the house, they continued to attack you with propaganda and commit injustice, causing you to suffer and lose your loved ones. You endured the injustice to such an extent that you finally said, "Enough, now I will keep my own house."

[safe ridge]

Because hamas is using them as human shields

[odd musk]

bro it's a big propaganda you really can't see it?

[thorny steeple]

Replace it with passing beliefs on someone when you do not understand them in the first place.

[safe ridge]

I wouldn't if someone from Palestinia hadn't confirmed it is actually true

[odd musk]

i can arrested you and tell you ok say that shit if you didn't i will kill you

[craggy sphinx]

There is no such thing.There is no knowledge that you can 100% claim.

You are a subjective and rational being. That means you could be wrong.

[odd musk]

easy right?

[odd musk]

where is that video?

[latent ledge]

And Israel dont care about 2M humans

[craggy sphinx]

I'm not in the business of substituting concepts, sorry

[safe ridge]

But okay, believe what you gotta believe, just don't come trying to make me support Palestinians because I'll probably tell you to f off

[odd musk]

already killed 5k kids in 10 days

[safe ridge]

If you knew what hamas did to Israelis

[odd musk]

im trying to show you the truth and you are just trying not to see it

[strange star]

Where are you from btw?

[odd musk]

what? show us

[craggy sphinx]

(leaving)

[odd musk]

with evidence

[safe ridge]

Take kids as hostages and kill them

[odd musk]

he will say beheaded kids i swear

[odd musk]

[strange star]

Wtffff bro stop watching bbc hhhhhhhhhhhhh

[safe ridge]

??

HBO?

[odd musk]

bbc propaganda fr

[safe ridge]

Fck Hamas

[odd musk]

gimme evidence

[latent ledge]

Israel were giving gifts To pelestine right??

[strange star]

Hamas >>>

[formal scaffold]

You are just being emotional, the proof you gave says allegedly, and you still base yr "facts" on it, and if you're not going to answer i'd see no worth in chating with you

[odd musk]

okay give us a real reason to fk them?

guys guys

[safe ridge]

Blah blah

[odd musk]

just one please?

[safe ridge]

Shut up please

[strange star]

(leaving)

[ebon pelican]

I can provide you with Instagram handles that showcase the mutilated bodies of Muslim Palestinian children, their mouths cut, their hands severed, their bodies hanging, fathers are holding their childrens lifeless body, and crying, while on the other side, Israeli propaganda dressing up fake footage inside hospitals was being shown. It's astonishing how some people still support Israel.

[odd musk]

i started this discussion can i finish it?

[safe ridge]

Yeah

[odd musk]

TOTALLY TRUE

[latent ledge]

The hostages r safe they only want the pelestinians politicians out of jail
The youngest hostage there is 14

[odd musk]

@latent ledge
guys shut, i will continue this please

[latent ledge]

I think u went down

[thorny steeple]

this is funny

[formal scaffold]

Damn this chat is chaotic and you guys are being emotional chill out

[safe ridge]

Imagine support a terrorist group

[craggy sphinx]

I will ask you to show respect for each other.

Count on communication, not rhetoric, or it's a waste of time.

[odd musk]

bro i just asked something, why u think they r?

[strange star]

They are terrorist
Why?
Because they protect their country

[odd musk]

because the tv told u?

[latent ledge]

Yep u right i think we need to end this

[safe ridge]

Shut up, this has nothing to do with you

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/mcjuggernuggets-chillout-gif-9568957628594437754

[strange star]

Shut up?

Watch your mouth

[craggy sphinx]

I will ask you to be respectful

[latent ledge]

Ronaldo>>>>>

[safe ridge]

Because it is a terrorist group

[odd musk]

@strange star @latent ledge
guys please keep silent for now ok? lemme talk with him

[thorny steeple]

You get to choose from the options you get, but you do not get to choose the options you are going to get.

[strange star]

Kk

[latent ledge]

Dont put ur level there bro

[safe ridge]

I'd do if you zip it and lemme finish this

[odd musk]

because u make it so random

[odd musk]

because?

[formal scaffold]

😵‍💫 didn't get it

[safe ridge]

They want to eradicate Israel

[odd musk]

and why do they want?

you know what israel did?

[safe ridge]

Because they want to take control over all??

[odd musk]

you know history?

[latent ledge]

No one have this bro we live in earth

[safe ridge]

I know, but you know what hamas did?

[odd musk]

yes but can you tell me?

[formal scaffold]

THIS IS NOT A PLACE FOR INSULTS AND FIGHTS TRY TO BE CIVIL AND HAVE A NORMAL CONVERSATION

[latent ledge]

@safe ridge how old r u

[safe ridge]

They were just defending themselves from hamas

[odd musk]

we are doing that now

[safe ridge]

Pls zip it

[visual minnow]

The two countries are at fault

[odd musk]

by bombing hospitals, schools and malls?

[formal scaffold]

is that civil?

[latent ledge]

Its just a question

Am 20 wbu

[odd musk]

keep ur opinion away for a minute please ok?

[safe ridge]

God, you can't have a debate without this kids getting in the convo

I'm out

[odd musk]

GUYS PLEASE SHUT UP

[formal scaffold]

you have no right to say that

[ebon pelican]

Thats what we need

[visual minnow]

Is just you you don't want to open your eyes and see the verity

[latent ledge]

Its kinda illegal to debate politics and wars with minors

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, and it would be boring to live in a world like that, so we created laws and made people repress their emotions to an intensity where we have serial killers, rapists, terrorists, and thieves.

crime must be creative don't you think?

[latent ledge]

Thats gonna make u muted bro

[thorny steeple]

it's fine, you will some day.

[thorny steeple]

just telling the truth

subjective truth tho

[formal scaffold]

I basically said the same with a typo

that's why i didn't get ur reply lol

[latent ledge]

Society cant accept the truth

[thorny steeple]

oh I see

[thorny steeple]

I love it, she has a fight in her.

[formal scaffold]

it's one way to produce crime

[thorny steeple]

What would we do without society? It completes us.

We are all arch criminals, just the intensity differs.

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/fsociety-gif-26293099

[thorny steeple]

Hello

yes

[latent ledge]

They r genius ppl

[thorny steeple]

I can be better than both of them.

[latent ledge]

Lessggooo

🔥🔥🔥

[thorny steeple]

Lol 😂

Looking at the message history of this channel, I have serious doubts that people know what a debate is

Nobody is debating, we are sharing love.

[latent ledge]

Ofc no

Its serious war chat

Not Debate

Who said that

[thorny steeple]

Eh, you got a point there

[thorny steeple]

Creative crime.

[latent ledge]

This chat were good but the war trend got in

[thorny steeple]

and people get heated over war

which is the understatement of the year

When diplomacy ends, war begins.

[latent ledge]

Thats what we need fr

Debates is usless

[thorny steeple]

I strongly disagree with that statement.

[latent ledge]

Yep but the biggest revolutions never tried to Debate and trying to show thier point untill they did it they started to made thier point

[thorny steeple]

The first human being who hurled an insult instead of a stone was the founder of civilization.

[thorny steeple]

Every country invests in war more than they do in the food industry.

everyone wants to play a game they can not win.

[latent ledge]

Sometimes is necessary

To play it for freedom

[thorny steeple]

Whatever you can't get always seems better than whatever you have. This is the romance and the idiocy of our life.

[latent ledge]

Not evryone deserve to live btw

[thorny steeple]

and Who do you think you are to say that not everyone deserves to live? Every living creature should have a chance at life, regardless of what they do with it.

[thorny steeple]

he is joking chill

[latent ledge]

Hitler deserve living with his soldiers with peace

[latent ledge]

Think about it

[thorny steeple]

😂

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chess-win-gif-17584376170894933930

[thorny steeple]

wow

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-американскийпсихопат-кристианбейл-american-psychopath-christian-bale-gif-17867735

Still, regardless of ideology, or any other means that we Humans constantly divide ourselves by, every being should have a chance at this existence we call Life.

[latent ledge]

But still we should kill Ben Laden and his men

That what humanity did for other humans lives

[thorny steeple]

The only justice we have here is unjust.

[thorny steeple]

And some people would disagree with that statement, and say to let events play out naturally.

Criminals are punishing criminals.

[latent ledge]

There is a line from our national anthem that says, “He did not listen to us when we spoke... so we took the sound of gunpowder as a tune... and played the machine gun’s tune as a melody.”

[latent ledge]

Sometimes its necessary to choose violence to make peace

[formal scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-dragon-how-to-train-gif-22894180

[thorny steeple]

Oh

[main bison]

hi

[pine birch]

hi

Okay

[craggy sphinx]

o

What do you think of nihilism ?

[lime relic]

What's that

[craggy sphinx]

Do you want to analyze this topic from me?

@ornate siren What do you think?

[ornate siren]

I don't know what you mean by nigelism

[craggy sphinx]

How do you understand that?

[ornate siren]

I have never heard of it before

[forest patio]

are u from israel, if u dont mind me asking

[main bison]

don't judge him

[forest patio]

am planning to hv a healthy convo unless they dont want to

[thorny steeple]

hello, no you're wrong, and whoever told you this is either lying to manipulate you, or lying to excuse the massacres Israel is committing against the Palestinians.

[craggy sphinx]

Nihilism*

[formal scaffold]

Don't try, he did bring a "proof" which said his claims were allegations, when I asked him about it he completely ignored me and started lashing out on others and it became chaotic, it'll be a waste of time and disturbance to the chat if u ask me

[forest patio]

+1

[formal scaffold]

you can't say allegations are complete proofs, or bringing a unbiased source from one of the sides and say it's "correct facts" and insult others based on it

[forest patio]

theyre trying to get the entire land thats what zionism is, and in fact they are openly stating it

and these what he or she saying abt hamas; its just an excuse to cover the ongoing nakba/massacre/ethnic cleansing ,whatever u may want to call it,

[formal scaffold]

It's useless to converse with somebody who just don't listen and say things outloud just warning u

[forest patio]

they already know hamas uses underground tunnels, theyre attacking the buildings without giving it a thought,

the reason why they are extremely chill about it is because they are taught to believe that they are the God's superior group of ppl in which this whole world in fact belongs to them, and is their property; hence the lives of others doesnt matter at all to them

these arent what only i am saying if u search only a bit abt it, abt the reference that their president give abt "Amalek" and how evangelical christianity etc, u ll see it urself 🤯

what is the use of the "we are trying to kill hamas" when what u actually want is to occupy the land since the start

[formal scaffold]

it's not them bombing it's hamas doing all the bombing, they even bombed 13 hospitals

[forest patio]

wdym

[formal scaffold]

the andaloussi hospital it was a miss fired rocket from KHAMAS

[forest patio]

let me see

[thorny steeple]

what yall talking about

clue me in

[forest patio]

im talking abt the humanshield topic

and how this excuse doesnt hv anything to do with justifying ongoing massacre

[formal scaffold]

idk I saw an ignorant post yesterday and made me laugh out loud

how can a half information make the complete one so wrong

[thorny steeple]

so like you're on palestine side am i right

[forest patio]

which side are u on

lmao

we are discussing stuff, we are almost in no place in terms of power and strength to change things; it doesnt devalue the importance of the topic

i mean it wouldnt devalue it as long as u are a human

👍

[formal scaffold]

what do you think about the muslim prophecy of killing jews? and that the stones and trees will tell them where they are hiding?

[forest patio]

i hv heard a tafseer/commentary abt this long back hence i do not completely remember the hadith, some sheiks associated the symbols such as trees and stones as somethings
also i think it has something to do with the reveal of Messiah where injustice and oppression will be gotten rid of completely

[formal scaffold]

close, you see the question and info was incomplete, muslim won't be killing the jews, they'll be killing the jews who'll follow the Dedjal demon and everyone who'll side with him

[forest patio]

as far as i know dajjal will appear after messiah, am i wrong

mahdi*

ooooh right, not messiah but mahdi

[formal scaffold]

Saying muslims will kill all the jews in this context isn't faithfull to the prophecy and it's done in a manipulative manner

[forest patio]

they are not trying to use these believe me, what they want from the start is crystal clear

the euphrates and the nile river = flag

[formal scaffold]

idc if they use anything, but lying should be corrected, if the whole world will stand against us it wouldn't matter we believe in a prophecy, we won't act to save people or to take revenge but to obey

[forest patio]

exactly

[formal scaffold]

I wouldn't care much if they kill muslim fighters, if they include non fighters and kids that's outside the laws of war

If you support peace then be it, if you support one side then you should be thrown in the battlefield if you are capable

to see war from up close and how ugly it is

[hallow tendon]

That's very true. And there is no server rules to stop spam of propaganda.

[ornate siren]

Ah, now I see

Tomorrow then

[high skiff]

ň

sorry that was my cat XD

[craggy sphinx]

ok, good night

[void galleon]

It makes fun that people r often scared to type in serious chat

[high skiff]

only my cat was confident enough to do so 😄

[craggy sphinx]

fear? What for?

[echo prairie]

Is anyone up for a chat?

[lavish finch]

Sure, what would you like to chat about?

[echo prairie]

I have an essay test coming up next week. It is going to be open book and but there will be a time limit. Is it okay to prepare the essay before hand, and rewrite it during the test?

[lavish finch]

I don’t see anything wrong with that.

That sounds like being prepared.

[thorny steeple]

Ask the teacher. 🙂

[river python]

Haya guys can I eat radium?

[thorny steeple]

depends

Do you have lactose intolerance?

[smoky skiff]

Best served as a marie curry

[thorny steeple]

is this real

[smoky skiff]

(just in case) no. 🙅‍♀️ (you will die)

[wispy torrent]

Bro what am I reading in "serious chat"

[thorny steeple]

"Serious chat"?

[feral river]

IDF: Hamas = ISIS

[craggy sphinx]

yes

[obsidian cedar]

Hello

I want to learn english and teach Arabic how want to learn Arabic

[humble lion]

Which dialect u wanna teach?

[ebon pelican]

I'm actually trying to learn Arabic

[obsidian cedar]

I can teach official Arabic , Saudi Arabia Arabic, Tunisia Arabic

[obsidian cedar]

You want me to help you and you can help me to learn english

[ebon pelican]

Okie ✅

[obsidian cedar]

You are from where

[humble lion]

Saudi would be good for me

Yalla let's start

[obsidian cedar]

Ok

[humble lion]

I wanna learn the words that are unique to the saudi dialect only. In return i shall answer any questions u have

[obsidian cedar]

That's great

[humble lion]

Mhm

[lavish finch]

…

Who is reading?

And what

And why

And how

Who has the courage to learn

And what have you learned

that is inspiring to you

That is self motivated

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[delicate pewter]

hi

[narrow kelp]

So uh, can someone answer me something here?
Who is "Unnämed" and why gals love... Uh

Him?

[craggy sphinx]

hello beings of the upper light

[misty moat]

Hi

[formal scaffold]

the Uyghurs are terrorists too, and those who are killing them are heroes

[formal scaffold]

Taiwan is part of china and if they resist they are criminals who deserves to die

Neslson mandila and Yassir Arafat were terrorists then they gave them the noble prize of peace

Gandhi was a war criminal then they gave him the noble prize for peace

[coarse mist]

who told u that??

[formal scaffold]

Every muslim is a potential terrorist, except the higher humans who aren't muslims

too bad I'm a muslim :/

[coarse mist]

bro what are u talkin about

[formal scaffold]

Justice

[coarse mist]

nah

in palestine thousand of children are dying ??

[formal scaffold]

It's not the only ongoing war btw

[forest patio]

its not clear whether u are criticizing the people who are thinking this way or this is what u think

thats why people get confused i think

[formal scaffold]

I should write 1st degree. 2nd degree before I type that ig

[hallow tendon]

I don't know much about isis, but the goal of hamas was to kill people in Israel and then hide behind Palestinians and show the world how bad IDF is. hamas is really so foul that maybe it's worse than isis, at least the phrase "hamas is worse than isis" is quiet common.

[formal scaffold]

True, at least part of it

"I don't know much about isis, but" sounds hella true

[narrow kelp]

What even is that...

That's why i hate politics

[formal scaffold]

punch of lies Innit?

[narrow kelp]

No, I live in Taiwan

[twin glacier]

seems immoral to me to support one side or other in a war which you genuinely dont contribute anything nor lose nothing. its disgusting to talk about “supporting” this country or the other as if it was a football match. disinformation is everywhere whatsoever

[narrow kelp]

I just don't rly give a damn if i cant do anything to influence the war or political matters with remarkable/influential effects

Idc what ya think about east and west Taiwan, just dont mess with me with this

[thorny steeple]

@formal scaffold What does earth look like?

[formal scaffold]

Earth is flat

[thorny steeple]

go on

[narrow kelp]

Yeah, AI going loose there

[formal scaffold]

brownish, has small living organisms in it

[hallow tendon]

There are a lot of conflicts in the world but not many of them make such an effect. For example iran makes everything possible to convince all Islamic states to start or to support its not concealed war against Jews and Christianity. I can guess that those guys won't stop on that, so Asia is the next on the list.

[thorny steeple]

do they debate about wars?

[formal scaffold]

they?

[thorny steeple]

DO THEY DEBATE ABOUT WARS?

[formal scaffold]

Chill out officer i'll answer the investigation

[formal scaffold]

leaving organisme feast on each other if they had to regardless of feelings

they can't communicate

they aren't smart to discuss conflict and survival they just go at it if they have to

can you uncuff me now, I didn't do any crime worth this?