🧠｜serious-chat

[lavish finch]

Then think carefully before you hit send.

I will remove the timer when I am there and we are chatting.

But if you'll excuse me I'd like to return to the topic.

[thorny steeple]

Okay I am sending u the paper also for you to see it and I am writing all the things at one place

[lavish finch]

You're interrupting.

Please have some consideration for people here engaged in discussion.

Thank you

[formal scaffold]

While trying to reduce the intesity of our negative feelings, is it more advisable to strenghthen our control over them?

[lavish finch]

I think control is the wrong word.

We don't control our feelings. They are more like the weather.

[thorny steeple]

I would definitely try to hide my anger, and rage in front of the person offending me. I'll definitely take it out when the right time comes.

[lavish finch]

I talk about making space for having feelings, of course a metaphor.

Different than avoiding or suppressing, making space for having feelings is the acknowledgement that we have the ability to have our feelings without acting on them compulsively.

Acting out rage has serious consequences.

So does hiding, as we must first hide our feelings from ourselves.

[formal scaffold]

would you say the same for a positive emotion? and acting on it?

[thorny steeple]

I wouldn't necessarily want the offender to assume that I'm getting mad, and take advantage of that. I'll try to remain calm, and not let him accomplish what he wishes. I'll strike back when I have enough to say about the man, and try to make him feel the same way I felt when he was going against me.

[lavish finch]

That's retaliation, eyesaek.

We want to make others feel what we feel. But it has very serious consequences.

As I'm sure you already know.

[thorny steeple]

Truly it does, and I agree with you on that. However when things escalate too much, then there has to be some sort of retaliation.

[lavish finch]

No, there doesn't.

[thorny steeple]

Well then how do we make them understand?

[lavish finch]

Why must there be retaliation? Why must they understand?

[thorny steeple]

Because they are going against us, we must defend ourselves.

[lavish finch]

The more you attempt to force someone to understand through retaliation, the less likely they will understand.

[thorny steeple]

If we don't, their point stands, and becomes the truth in the eyes of the people.

[lavish finch]

Maybe

[thorny steeple]

Let's put retaliation aside, and let's talk about what can be done without being too violent against the offender.

[lavish finch]

Yes

[formal scaffold]

Justice, make them have a taste of their own medecin?

[thorny steeple]

I believe, anger can sometimes lead to more trouble. Let's say I was calm, but at some point my tolerance can run out, and I can eventually go against them in a much more offensive manner.

Because a human's tolerance depends on their age, and I'm not an adult yet, I'm just some guy maybe I have more to learn, and maturity comes slowly to tell me that anger is not the path I should choose. But right now is the time to make points, and statements that'll carve my future, and if I do someone would take them wrongly, and try to go against me.

In that moment, if I don't defend my actions then I'll be in deep trouble for them. They would certainly affect how the world would see me.

And I can't let the world think less of me because of some loud mouth.

[formal scaffold]

I think that's where anger comes handy, instead of hiding the signs of anger, it's good to show them, to draw the limits of relationships between you and others

[thorny steeple]

Have to say, your English is not beginner level, it's advanced.

[slate wing]

serious-chatto hi

[woven shell]

Hi

[feral river]

actually nobody cares, but you may get in trouble, I don’t believe that there is a god to surveillance what you actually did

if you did something wrong, you may got punished or beaten by others, then you know you can’t do that because it’s an offensive action, it’s no deal about gods, just you do it, you pay for it.

[craggy sphinx]

In search of truth, one that could explain what is happening. This would be the final determination of our divergence.

Arguments that not a single living soul has been able to refute so far:

1. Dissent – The uncertainty demonstrated by the differences of opinions among philosophers and people in general.

2. Progress ad infinitum – All proof rests on matters themselves in need of proof, and so on to infinity, i.e., the regress argument.

3. Relation – All things are changed as their relations become changed, or, as we look upon them from different points of view.

4. Assumption – The truth asserted is based on an unsupported assumption.

5. Circularity – The truth asserted involves a circularity of proofs.

Therefore, I have concluded that: The journey of a fool is a search for truth. Agrippa teaches, criticize instead, share ideas. This is the only thing that can take us to a higher level with internal magnetic induction.
@ornate siren

[craggy sphinx]

I think this is not always the case. You will encounter someone who is more aggressive than you, and you will be forced to use this

It's like saying, "I am against physical action"

This is silly

[craggy sphinx]

It is also worth noting that the path is not organically with anger. The “path of anger” is the kind of rumination that is forced upon you.
Why even say the path of anger? It `s naturally.

[formal scaffold]

he didn't mention nor refer to god tho 👀 he's speaking about what society thinks of him

[craggy sphinx]

I think the word "protect" is not entirely true in this case.
After all, as I said earlier, you will be forced to do this.

[formal scaffold]

https://yt3.ggpht.com/VkK3zljDPY2LN6kslB8n4iY2R1OvTVmYat8lzYaPZ_9RLjBy8Hlpe_2r6zZ07RNJ1I7KZqlGkkZ_rw=s800-nd-v1

[feral river]

if he has society influence.

[craggy sphinx]

What do you know about this?

[formal scaffold]

I'm not claiming that, just throwing a topic for those who are interested

[craggy sphinx]

Did I say what you claim?

[formal scaffold]

you didn't I'm just clarifying for everyone here

[feral river]

the more influence you have, the more punishment you gained

[craggy sphinx]

(leaving)

[formal scaffold]

but I do agree with that to some extent, modernity made alot of people disconnect from reality and life.

[fluid slate]

hello! guys i'm new to this server.... can anyone be my friend?

[formal scaffold]

but it's to complex to give a clear answer

[fluid slate]

....

hellp

hello*

[craggy sphinx]

I'll cover this topic later.

[fluid slate]

...

...

[feral river]

I admit there is an actual power on public opinion, but pointless on a regular person. if you get trouble into it, you could just ignore/apologize/revenge, and you pay for it. if you get into a new community, no one knows what terrible thing you actually did. that’s my point.

[craggy sphinx]

What does it mean for a “common” person?

Do you mean assertive personality?

[craggy sphinx]

And you said that there is a certain power over society/public opinion, but let’s call it “power” does not affect an ordinary person.

That is, it represents dependence in interests/opinions

[craggy sphinx]

#💭｜general for me

[tough gull]

[craggy sphinx]

Hii

How are you?

[tough gull]

I'm fine ty

U?

[ornate siren]

Now that's what I call method.

[ornate siren]

Yes.

Because I wasn't there, I cannot discuss that and all those comments on anger now.

Shit.

[craggy sphinx]

This is a natural phenomenon

But I don't think it's true to talk about the "path of anger."

Sorry

[ornate siren]

Instead of being sorry, you'd do well to delete that.

[craggy sphinx]

Emotions, sorry.

[ornate siren]

Explain.

[craggy sphinx]

Someone in the chat said that it is better not to choose the "path of anger"
I don't think path is the right word in this sense.

[ornate siren]

Anger is anger, regardless of the path following which it has come to be.

[craggy sphinx]

Ye, agree

[ornate siren]

A balance of negative and positive emotions is necessary.

[craggy sphinx]

Yes, like electrons that revolve around an atom.

And which are at different orbital levels, which also have spins.

+1/2 , -1/2

If there is no balance, then...

[ornate siren]

The fallacies of Rutherford's atomic model will be proven correct.

Electrons will fall into the nucleus.

[craggy sphinx]

Ou

It's much more complicated there

[ornate siren]

Agreed.

[craggy sphinx]

Do you want to shock you?

[ornate siren]

*yourself

[craggy sphinx]

The model of the atom in school books is incorrect.

[ornate siren]

The principles of human emotion and psychology are simple enough, but the crafts and cautels that can be devised by the mind based on those and their corollaries is way more complicated.

Intelligence is proportional to inscrutability.

[ornate siren]

Well.

[craggy sphinx]

I do not think that the so-called principles are simple in their structure.

What do you mean?

[craggy sphinx]

What I mean?

You know how complex the quantum world is. This is a different form. It is very different from MKT (molecular kinetic theory).
And the movement of electrons cannot be accurately determined, and the model presented in school textbooks is incorrect.

[lavish finch]

I don't doubt it. Many things presented in schools are incorrect.

It takes some time for general audiences to catch up with experts.

[craggy sphinx]

Of course, this is done so as not to burden the child's mind. But why not then remove misconceptions about certain phenomena?

This is a shock for the child

[lavish finch]

I don't think it's intentionally incorrect.

[craggy sphinx]

When he finds out that this is not true

[craggy sphinx]

Maybe

[craggy sphinx]

I apologize for not explaining what this means.

Spins are properties of electrons that determine their direction relative to the axis. It also depends on internal magnetic forces.
+1/2 , -1/2 - These are their up and down directions.

[ornate siren]

Human mind is SUPPOSED to follow logic. This logic correlates with human psychology while itself deviating a little from the classical principles, but still can be reduced to basic characteristics and ideals as can classical logic too. But does the mind do so?

[craggy sphinx]

But, it also depends on the orbital level.

But there must be a balance.

[ornate siren]

Compare the truth values of classical inclusive disjunctions and the inclusive disjunctions as considered by the human mind, and you'll understand.

[ornate siren]

Know that.

[ornate siren]

Agreed, but then... almost everything on physics and chemistry has been grossly simplified, approximated, and idealized in the basic academic fields. Uncertainty and abruptness reigns supreme in the real world. For example, take any high school problem on a pendulum undergoing simple harmonic motion that neglects air friction, the elasticity and the mass of the string, inter alia.

[craggy sphinx]

Or you can take ballistics

[ornate siren]

There are countless examples.

[craggy sphinx]

But it normal

[lavish finch]

If I may, the human mind is not "logical" in a strict sense.

[craggy sphinx]

For schoolchildren

[ornate siren]

"Decayed" is the term I like to use, as in "decayed metaphors".

[ornate siren]

Of course.

Obviously.

[craggy sphinx]

Do they teach astronomy in schools?

[lavish finch]

If it's obvious why would you say that the human mind is supposed to follow logic.

[craggy sphinx]

If so, then this is a disaster...

[ornate siren]

Humans were the first to delve into the principles of logic. I thought it could have been better had they extended their works to be universally applicable.

I don't know what I'm talking about.

My mind doesn't follow logic.

[lavish finch]

In a sense the reason philosophers needed to create or discover formal logic is because it's not obvious.

[craggy sphinx]

I imagine the mind as a big box with the rest of the elements inside.

[iron kindle]

I definitely agree

[ornate siren]

In a sense, yes.

[lavish finch]

One of my areas of interest in linguistics in graduate school was crossover between formal logic and logic in natural language.

[ornate siren]

They inherently knew about something, but didn't know what that is before they decided to look into things.

[ornate siren]

@lavish finch Me too. The first thing I was intrigued by was this.

[silver gyro]

Hi

[lavish finch]

Hi Jazzar

I’d like to discuss the philosophy of science.

How do we know what a science is?

there are some subjects which are commonly agreed to be sciences like physics chemistry and biology.

[silver gyro]

Are you real?

[lavish finch]

There are other subjects which are generally agreed not to be science like astrology.

[silver gyro]

Ehhh, you like talking about DJ Khalid?

[lavish finch]

Then there are some subjects in between which he seem to be investigating important topics and yet may still not be science like psychology economics or sociology.

Are mathematics science? Or are they something else?

[silver gyro]

Bro are you a bot?

To be honest, I wouldn’t talk about that topics.

[lavish finch]

And?

This question of what is determined to be a science or not is called demarcation.

This was the subject of Karl Popper in the 1920s.

And he was part of a group of people working on this question called logical positivists.

Popper also did interesting work in political science.

He wrote a book called the open society and its enemies.

Where he said that a good open society has a government that is open, receptive and responsive to criticism.

And also said that’s what makes someone a good scientist.

[stark loom]

Poetry Corner starting in a few minutes below. A short illustrated talk about Robert Browning's 'My Last Duchess'.

[lavish finch]

Sorry? What are you talking about.

You’re going to host an event in this space?

[sharp urchin]

guys any interesting topic?

I need to lvl up my discord level

[sharp urchin]

Science is a language to understand universe we life in

[lavish finch]

OK, that’s a start

[sharp urchin]

hbu james what do you think science is?

Im science addict tbh

[lavish finch]

Well I appreciate the invitation to define our terms

Good philosophy work results in the creation of definitions but does not necessarily start with them.

So I join you in the aim of defining science.

[sharp urchin]

then what are they start with?

[lavish finch]

Perhaps by asking questions.

[sharp urchin]

philospher have the heaviest thought of their own surroundings

[sharp urchin]

oh yea im agree

[sharp urchin]

so what is your answer james?

[lavish finch]

It looks like we’re not ready to define science

[sharp urchin]

We are but atleast you have your own thought maybe?

[lavish finch]

Have you heard the saying I don’t know how to tell you what it is but I know it when I see it?

[sharp urchin]

It sounds like ancient proverb, never heard but I understand

[lavish finch]

I know that astrology is not science but I’m not sure I could tell you exactly why.

[sharp urchin]

It is not

they used astrology to predict season in ancient times

[lavish finch]

If we develop our philosophy of science we will be able to say why.

One characteristic to consider is called falsifiability.

[sharp urchin]

OH

I would say astrology is part of science

[lavish finch]

Saying that it’s not science is not the same as saying it has nothing interesting to say in its body of knowledge.

[sharp urchin]

Ikr I dont know how to put the word on the canvas

its hard to explain but it is science

[lavish finch]

That’s OK that’s what we’re working on together.

You consider astrology to be science. Is there any subject which you consider to be a pseudoscience? Fake science.

[sharp urchin]

ok let me try to explain why astrology is science, according to my knowledge "probably wrong" they used astrology to predict season and wind direction in ancient times. there's an item called astrolabe to measure the constellation. even nowadays they still use astrology to see where is andromeda and some particular star to observe. But im agree if we are talking about zodiac forecast yeah it is bs

[lavish finch]

Are you talking about astrology or astronomy?

[sharp urchin]

astrology

[lavish finch]

I think scientists today would use astronomy not astrology to determine where Andromeda is.

[sharp urchin]

oooh they still used astrology tho if you use telecope and want to see andromeda from your home, you need to find pegasus constellation first

wait I think I get the wrong definition of astrology

No I dont believe stars constellation have any effect on human, astrology is bs

[lavish finch]

Astronomy and astrology are very similar sounding words. But they are very different.

astrology is about the zodiac

Astronomy is the study of space and the motion of planets

[sharp urchin]

Yeah I just researched it back, because according to my knowledge like 5 min ago astrology is a branch of science that studying about star constellation

do you believe in zodiac james?

if yes we can't be good friend

[small turret]

Can i be part of this conversation with my weak English language?

[sharp urchin]

James will say define weak

btw sure more people the better the convo

[small turret]

Poor ?

[sharp urchin]

Its actually so hard to define 1 word

[lavish finch]

Yes you’re welcome to participate if you take the conversation seriously.

[small turret]

Im not that good in English actually.. but im trying to develop my English with useful kind of topics

[sharp urchin]

First do you believe in zodiac?

[lavish finch]

that’s irrelevant

[small turret]

No in fact..

[sharp urchin]

What it is relevant, astrology is about correlation between zodiac and human right?

[lavish finch]

Someone’s personal belief is irrelevant to their ability to participate in our conversation about what science is

This conversation is open to people both who believe in zodiac and who don’t

I don’t personally believe in zodiac but that’s not what we’re talking about.

[sharp urchin]

Oh yeah sure I was going to ask why he doesnt believe or why if he believe

[lavish finch]

I understand and I think that might take us away from what we were talking about.

[stark loom]

Astronomy is the study of the stars.

[small turret]

In my country, most of them are believe in such things like.
But in my view.. what people saying about future can’t be adopted easily.

[stark loom]

Astrology is fortune telling using the movement of stars to predict the future

In India they belive very much in the movements of star for 'auspicious occasions'.

[sharp urchin]

I wonder when is astrology first implemented in human culture

and what's the reason behind it

[stark loom]

I think it is very old

Well, what else is there but the clear night sly to wonder at?

[lavish finch]

Yes it’s very old. And before science the two were intertwined.

[stark loom]

Indeed

[small turret]

It’s back to ancient times.. like Egyptian

[stark loom]

I prefer reading my tea leaves

[sharp urchin]

oh that's make sense now, Im actually writing a script for documentary video about sun god shamas it's a god from ancient babylonia society, they always take a look up to the sky for their own activity

[lavish finch]

You’ve probably heard of Stonehenge the druidic mono lithic site in England.

[stark loom]

Druidic ? Really?

[lavish finch]

I don’t know how much truth there is to it but I’ve heard that the design of the circle corresponds to some astronomical positions.

Keefy is from the UK so he might be able to give us more accurate information.

[stark loom]

It does and people meet at Stonhenge for the spring and winter equinox

summer not spring

[lavish finch]

And what’s the approximate date of creation? 5000 years ago?

[stark loom]

I think but no druids involved - they came later. We dont really know what went on at Stonehenge - there are theories but I dont think anyone is truly sure

Probably

[sharp urchin]

how they put huge rock on top another huge rock

[stark loom]

4000 years ago and neolithic not monolithic

[sharp urchin]

just wonder tho

[lavish finch]

The key is to lift with the legs

Not the back

[stark loom]

Yes or suffer sciatica for the rest of your life

The stones came from Wales

The ones called sarcen stones

[sharp urchin]

I wonder if someone goes there and accidentally pushed the rock and everthing destroyed

[stark loom]

And they reckon they may have come by sea

Oh some were probably pinched by the locals much later to make a nice mantlepiece

you know over the fireplace

And the ground also shifted no doubt

When I was a boy you could go right up to the stones and touch them

but now they keep people away except for the solstice celebration

[sharp urchin]

wow, thats destructive and probably some stonehenge ghost will follow you

[stark loom]

haha maybe

The sun comes through the stone arches and hits a particular stone on solstice day

[sharp urchin]

What is stonehenge used for in ancient society? is it like worshipping site?

[stark loom]

except when its raining

Could well be or just a meeting place

[sharp urchin]

or... its for predicting time or season using sunlight?

[stark loom]

Yes you can do that with it

[sharp urchin]

like sundial

[stark loom]

or calendar

Ive always wondered why they dont pick up the stones and put them back where they belong but archeologists dont do that sort of thing

It is a magical sight as you come over a hill on the main A303 road

[sharp urchin]

No idea what is A303 road sounds like plane brand to me

[stark loom]

There are other henges in the area apart from this one (the most impressive) and barrows - burial mounds - as well

[sharp urchin]

Wait.. what if it was ufo landing site?

[stark loom]

Its the main road west from London linked with the A30

[sharp urchin]

Oh I see

[stark loom]

Oh no not ALIENS!

[sharp urchin]

you can see the stonehenge from the road?

[stark loom]

Yes

[sharp urchin]

woah thats cool

[stark loom]

from afar

But you have to pay to get in

capitalism

and upkeep of course

[sharp urchin]

tbh that monument looks so fragile

like 5 people that work together can destroy it

[stark loom]

Its literally as solid as a rock

Naah

JCB would

[sharp urchin]

who is jcb

[stark loom]

But please dont

its a big earth mover

[sharp urchin]

oh

indeed it can destroy

[sharp urchin]

No idea how they can put that huge rock on top of other rock

[stark loom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge

This will explain. Ive got to go. Bye bye!

[fluid bronze]

With antigravity power, of course. 😎

[stark loom]

If you are interested I have a presentation on 'Who are the English?' which shows the development of these isles from prehistoric times.

[lavish finch]

I believe they did to some extent. They restored the site and made some adjustments.

[fluid bronze]

There was restoration yes

[stark loom]

BBC
Missing part of Stonehenge returned 60 years on - BBC News

gotta go now!

[covert raptor]

What's the big deal around this? It's a bunch of stones placed in some weird fashion

You can build a similar one in your backyard too

[stark loom]

@covert raptor Well, personally I think I would use polystyrene blocks which are somewhat lighter - like on Star Trek series 1. I once knew a bloke who worked for Denham Studios. He made a complete cinema with tiered seating in his garage for showing home movies. It carves very easily apparently...

[summer fable]

hi

people

[livid hawk]

I can't agree. In Stonehenge there are gates to time travel. You cannot recreate sth like this in your backyard.

[covert raptor]

Oh really 💀

[covert raptor]

Good for you

[stark loom]

@livid hawkYou are probably right

I got these strange vibes when I was there. People say the stones vibrate. I had the feeling that if I walked through one of the portals still standing I would end up in the future or the past...

Creepy innit?

But also it might be an ancient landing spot for UFOs. Maybe its transmitting signals to another galaxy? Or maybe its just a bunch of old stones?

[covert raptor]

Just some conspiracy theories, nothing empirical proven

[tough gull]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-boy-youre-an-alien-katy-perry-katy-perry-gifs-gif-10159650

[silver gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-gif-3740296292828441808

[narrow fossil]

Thats Hog Wild

Absolutely Bonkers

[thorny steeple]

That's what I said.

[thorny steeple]

There's nothing to protect, and I know what you've said earlier. It's completely unrelated to what I've stated. In terms of defending my actions however, I can't get angry, or at-least I can't visibly show my anger. I'll have to keep my calm in order to make points logically.

[thorny steeple]

Elaborate on that.

When you're in deep stress, or deep paranoia, you're not able to make decisions logically. When you're calm, you are more capable to solving a problem.

[craggy sphinx]

Hello

[craggy sphinx]

This is pure eclecticism.

[craggy sphinx]

Once again, carefully read what you wrote.

[thorny steeple]

Just because you can't interpret my messages doesn't mean I have to read my own messages.

[craggy sphinx]

"interpretation" is not appropriate here.

[thorny steeple]

I go out of the way to make sure my points are clear, and fair.

[thorny steeple]

It's completely appropriate, depends on the perspective.

[craggy sphinx]

The latter may turn against you.

[thorny steeple]

Elaborate more on that.

[craggy sphinx]

@ornate siren hello

[thorny steeple]

Also elaborate on what you said about physical action.

[craggy sphinx]

I explained this using your example, if you were careful.
So I told you to read your message again carefully.

[thorny steeple]

I read my messages right when I send them then again read them when someone goes against them.

I understand myself clearly, if you want more explanation without forcing yours on me, I can give that to you.

Just have to ask for it.

The first, and foremost topic here is why violence, and anger can lead to multiple dire situations along with the fact that anger is not the correct path not about me not being able to read my own message, and understand myself. I clearly understand myself, you wants explanation? Ask for it.

[craggy sphinx]

Do you read after you've posted? Does this mean that you passed it through a dead consciousness?
What does it mean? This means that you are not serious about what you say. You should have thought this through before you wrote.

[thorny steeple]

You're off the topic here.

[craggy sphinx]

I didn't support the topic.

[thorny steeple]

Just saying, going against what I can, or can not do doesn't mean you can escape with your points being proven. Which you are yet to do.

[craggy sphinx]

It's your business.

[thorny steeple]

You're clearly berating me for what? Not being able to understand my own words? It's rubbish. If you want to discuss on the main topic, sure go ahead.

[craggy sphinx]

I just clarified those points where it seems to me that you presented it incorrectly.

[thorny steeple]

How so, that's what I've been asking you.

Like do you want an explanation, or not? You're changing multiple topics here.

[craggy sphinx]

No, don't attribute to me what I didn't say. This is a kind of provocation.
I rely on connection, not rhetoric.

[thorny steeple]

Same can go for you, you're trying to berate my comprehension when it's completely stable.

[craggy sphinx]

Good luck!

[craggy sphinx]

You can't be 100% sure of this.

I didn't say that I was criticizing you.

I've made it clear.

[thorny steeple]

Neither can you, but you're confident in yourself, literally overconfident.

You've told me, to go ahead, and read what I've said a day ago to which I've replied multiple times that I know what I've said yet you keep telling to do what you want me to. I've asked you multiple times if you want an explanation, yet you denied.

[craggy sphinx]

Buddy, I didn't mind you explaining this to me. This happened due to the fact that you wrote a response immediately to my message, and I had to respond to the soon-arriving one and miss previous.

As I said earlier, I rely on communication rather than RHETORIC.

[craggy sphinx]

Of course, I also had some omissions.

[craggy sphinx]

There may have been a misunderstanding.

[craggy sphinx]

Could you please explain yesterday's topic to me?

[thorny steeple]

Definitely not a misunderstanding, I consider it ignorance, and I find it reasonable. Simply because~
A) You ignored my request to explain you stuff.
B) You did not elaborate on other things.
C) You've been trying to tell me that I must read my very own message that I've clearly read before. I always read my messages twice before sending them to check if they are logically correct, and gramatically correct. All I have seen from your side so far are assumptions yet when I gave my perspective you weren't willing take that were you?

I believe the conversation should end right here because talking upon this any further just leads to actual misunderstandings. Whether you call it victory, or not I retreive my hand from this conversation.

I will simply not reply to any of yours messages about this particular conversation anymore. To start fresh of course.

[craggy sphinx]

I'm afraid I'll have to correct you this time too.

[craggy sphinx]

I think you don’t quite understand the mechanics of how logic and logical constructions work. So does a subjective set of discrete data.

"Assumption" is all we can do.

We cannot confirm anything with 100% certainty.

Because we are subjective beings.

[craggy sphinx]

Good luck!

@ornate siren hey. did your weekend work out?

[slender ocean]

@craggy sphinx as I realized, you're russian. Tbh your english is pretty insane comparing to average ones

[thorny steeple]

Well forget it, I'll get back into the conversation.

What do you mean by correcting? Are you certain you're correcting me properly, or not? Can you explain why are you correcting me?

[thorny steeple]

Coming back to this, this literally does not make sense. I made it crystal clear that I have to defend my actions in order to save my reputation in front of the world. I can let the world to think less of me. I don't understand what you're trying to say with the word force, but okay.

[thorny steeple]

Well the conversation was between me, and Mr. Green about how tolerance can eventually be broken by a few more sentences from the opponent. I've also said,

'I believe, anger can sometimes lead to more trouble. Let's say I was calm,'

only making an if situation where we both are imagining what could potentially happen. I've made it extremely comprehendible that tolerance is simply not the greater force in anything, and sometimes you can improve it, but can never keep it together all the time. You'll eventually lose it to a person, and go all out on them. I do not understand what point you're trying to berate here because all of them literally agree to whatever you've said. If you wish to correct someone? Correct yourself.

[thorny steeple]

Now you've still not elaborated what you meant here.

[craggy sphinx]

I'm learning, just like everyone else here.

[thorny steeple]

I've used the word path to simply denote it as a weapon. Of course it's forced, and you can't control it at all, but you can choose it at times. You're in complete control of when to use it. You've got the ability to tolerate, and go off.

[thorny steeple]

Exactly.

'Nobody cares,' seems a little wrong.

I can reason with you on that, it's mostly because people would care, they will keep that in mind if it's something serious. The internet is sort of like a weapon, in some ways it's good, and in some bad. It's been used a weapon, and as a tool. Cyber threat, cyber attacks, predators lurking around, and a lot of other bizarre things. These threats are never forgotten by the people of the internet. If someone does something slightly weird, people will remember them, but for how long? I'm not sure of that.

[slender ocean]

Yes it's self evident. I've just noted that

[eager haven]

Peace is a period between wars, nobody changes my mind about this

[craggy sphinx]

Np

[eager haven]

Np is a slang word for ... ?

[thorny steeple]

Means no.

[craggy sphinx]

No

[craggy sphinx]

Np - no problem

Your business

[thorny steeple]

Yeah that.

[eager haven]

Thanks a lot

[craggy sphinx]

What is this?

[craggy sphinx]

May I know why you took this particular position?

[eager haven]

Of course, starting from the analysis of our history, always that happens to evolution of technology or society the war was there.
Do you understand my point of view?

[thorny steeple]

What I could properly make out is that, we're really not at peace, we are just in a truce.

There's really no true peace, a nation wouldn't go to war, but would threaten, and make it difficult for you in every way?

[eager haven]

war is needed as a tool, but the most of countries don't still in war everytime, I think that's is inevitable, however war was there

Piece is just a shot period between wars

And an impossible dream, a goal that never can reach

[craggy sphinx]

no, that's not enough. I call this indiscriminate referencing.

war has both positive and negative consequences. Positive from a scientific point of view. Is this transition worth the lives of many people?

but I agree that this development has to do with the outbreak or its manifest beginning.

but these are not all aspects.

[ornate siren]

Damn, I missed a lot.

[ornate siren]

Yeah, in a sense.

[craggy sphinx]

No

It's only begining

[craggy sphinx]

How are you?

[formal scaffold]

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/president-harry-s-truman-perspective-retro-images-archive.jpg

[sharp urchin]

Any crazy topic to talk about?

[feral river]

do you remember the content you watched on tiktok or sth yesterday?

because you care, you care what did you with yourself, not other people unless you involved them into your case and you actually get them in trouble.

you are worried about public opinion/cyber threat or sth just because you are not powerful enough, mentally and physically.

if you get in trouble, don’t give a shit, that’s my opinion.

or just let him permanently silent. (mute/ignore)

Anger/Anxiety/Mad solves nothing, you are mentally consuming yourself.

[sharp urchin]

Oh I dont care with what people say about me if its not constructive

Am I mentally strong then?

[ornate siren]

Fine. Continue with the topic.

[thorny steeple]

A] I don't have TikTok, and it's banned in my country.
B] What is Sth?

[ornate siren]

B] Something

[feral river]

it's normal, there is a lot of people really feel unrest about others opinion.

[deep cave]

Hello

How is every thing with you

[feral river]

it's hard to define you are mentally strong or not, but you can define it by yourself.

[feral river]

pretty good ! and you ?

[deep cave]

Not bad

Thank you

[feral river]

I say you are not mentally strong because you are affected and feel uncomfortable by public opinion, and even if it actually can't affect you in aspect of way, you should not care about them, and be confident in the future.

if there is really someone who keeps annoy/insulting you, maybe that is your enemy, I don't recommend that you insult them back or make threats, but legally taking actions to against them is plausible.

[craggy sphinx]

Hello. I don't think that's always the case. You are dependent on society and communication with others can be a positive effect. What does that mean? For example, if you work in a field and you want to develop a project, then you will be forced to contact and listen to others. This will help you understand whether you are doing everything right or not.

Of course, this is not always the case. It has its drawbacks.

But what is ideal then?

[kind granite]

[feral river]

Yes, we are dependent on society, but society is a big field that almost includes everything, It's a tiny influence on society for you, even if you did something terrible on this field, you are free to leave and seek a new field to contribute/working, unless you have strong influence on society like you are a politician/influencer/CEOs/Billionaires that would be hell to pay.

[craggy sphinx]

I don't think that after any serious violation you can just walk away.

[feral river]

make an example, In my opinion, why can't I LOL

well if it is a really serious violation like law violations

[craggy sphinx]

Ok, go out now and kill the man on the street.

You can hide, but not for long.

[feral river]

that's too terrible 😭 , you have no chance to face the power of a nation.

[craggy sphinx]

I'm talking about private

Please stay on topic.

[craggy sphinx]

?

[feral river]

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by private, could you provide some details for me ?

Is that means you can kill a person privately and no one knows ?

I don't think that really works.

[thorny steeple]

No, have a good day

People idealize too much being "mentally strong" or some shit like that

It's better to go to your own rhythm rather than overcomplicating your own life

[craggy sphinx]

Damn!!!

@ornate siren Why are you in the way me!!!!!

[ornate siren]

Yes.

[craggy sphinx]

Ok, ok

[craggy sphinx]

You said you could avoid this.

[craggy sphinx]

What strength?

[rocky aurora]

can anyone provide me some ideas and writeups based on the topic "the influence of technology on society"?

[ornate siren]

Use ChatGPT...

[rocky aurora]

💀

[ornate siren]

I'm always up for discussions and dialectics in this channel I mean, but haven't got time for detailed paragraphs.

[rocky aurora]

can u give me some ideas

I'll exaggerate it

[feral river]

you can if you have nukes

[ornate siren]

Sorry, but there's ChatGPT for you. I'm not really that much of a helping hand in these matters.

[thorny steeple]

While they burn my reputation down? Absolutely not. I'm not uncomfortable due to public opinion, I do not care about public opinion that much, but when it comes to defending something which I've clearly not done, I will not resist.

You're talking from a perspective where I've actually done something wrong, but you've not considered understanding the perspective of having done nothing.

[thorny steeple]

• Base your points on the benefit of it, mix them up with the side-effects.
• Describe their threat towards the mind.
• Describe their threat towards the well-being of a person.
  It's just about making good, and bad points.

Insult it, but also embrace it.

Describe how it has turned humanity against itself, nuclear weapons, and other such stuff. Describe how humanity has formed newer bonds with the help of the internet, such as Discord, Instagram, Team Speak, and other such chat platforms that let you interact.

[craggy sphinx]

Let's talk

[hard meadow]

Reject modernity 💩
Embrace masculinity ⚔️

[ornate siren]

About what?

[craggy sphinx]

You offer

I'm tired of suggesting topics

[ornate siren]

Don't really have the knack for it...

[craggy sphinx]

Me too. My little self is responsible for this.

[ornate siren]

Ever saw the movie I was streaming?

[feral river]

that's how human works. we are all selfish, due to different aspects and opinions, also benefits, there must to be a war against each other, but unlike nuclear power/biological/chemical weapons, most of them are extremely mass destructive weapons. there is no benefit for everyone and yourself to use it, but not for deterrent. they are power, but when we all have this power, we have to consider who will be the real next victims, is that you ? or the target? same logic on other field.

[craggy sphinx]

I haven't watched it, but I've seen short footage on tik tok.

[craggy sphinx]

Don't get ahead of yourself.

[craggy sphinx]

Why are you streaming movies?

[feral river]

that's true, but you can't have a nuke.

[craggy sphinx]

How do you know?

[ornate siren]

Felt like it...

[craggy sphinx]

How can you be 100% sure of this?

[feral river]

I'm not sure about this, but It's no threat on me.

you can have a nuke or not, It's not my shit.

[craggy sphinx]

Why then ask if I have it?

[feral river]

that's the case you can do if you have it.

any question

[ornate siren]

What the hell are you talking about?

[craggy sphinx]

What case?

[formal scaffold]

same

[feral river]

this case

[craggy sphinx]

I said that no one can be sure that I do not have a nuclear bomb.

She may be

Or not

Or ye

[ornate siren]

Who is ''she''? 😏

Anyways, that's what she said.

So better not rely on it too much.

[craggy sphinx]

Oh my little prankster

[ornate siren]

Ludmila. No homo.

[craggy sphinx]

Hey

Stop

[formal scaffold]

[craggy sphinx]

Hello, what about the wave-particle duality theories?

[formal scaffold]

what about it?

[craggy sphinx]

Are you saying that quantum physics is wrong?

[craggy sphinx]

Specifically mechanics

[craggy sphinx]

Well?

[warm berry]

Would it be possible for a supercomputer to simulate all the supposed alternative realities that the superposition of particles create? Assuming this theory would be valid

[ornate siren]

Don't think so.

[formal scaffold]

that would be impossiple to generate all of the infinite

[ornate siren]

Stay tuned for quantum supercomputers.

[craggy sphinx]

You meant to say quantum meter.

[craggy sphinx]

How do you imagine this?

[warm berry]

Yeah, dunno much about it in depth

[craggy sphinx]

There's nothing wrong with that.

[ornate siren]

Forget about this critical baloney and watch Oggy And The Cockroaches.

[warm berry]

I just was wondering how insane the amount of decisions our brains process everyday, if anyone was to be conscious about this they would probably go insane

[thorny steeple]

BYE ALL

[craggy sphinx]

Ou yes

Oggy

[craggy sphinx]

?

[eager haven]

I imagine you in my arms baby

Sorry I can't help it

[craggy sphinx]

Our brains are unique and very complex. Our anatomy is unique.

[craggy sphinx]

Have you used anything?

[formal scaffold]

nobody can be concious about infity it'd take you an infinite amount of time to reach that (never reach that)

[craggy sphinx]

What is infinity?

[formal scaffold]

don't you know?

[ornate siren]

I've no idea what you're talking about, it's become so vague.

[craggy sphinx]

What is infinity?

[eager haven]

No but I can, if anything = you
( It's a joke )

[ornate siren]

What the hell are you doing?

[craggy sphinx]

Lol, ahahah

[ornate siren]

Gay or something?

[formal scaffold]

something

[warm berry]

Indeed, still fascinates me to this day that at some point we were creating the concept of airplanes and not so long after we were heading to the moon. Science and the brain's cognitive capabilities can make wonderful things, but some wrong beliefs can make such disasters as well, like denying other people's curiosity and consequentially making them less capable of expressing their thoughts

[craggy sphinx]

This is bad?

[ornate siren]

Good.

[ornate siren]

Incongruity is bad.

[formal scaffold]

we learn by mimicing mostly, we got the idea of aeroplanes from birds and flying bugs, still our anatomy is complex and our brain is gifted, but not that capable.

[craggy sphinx]

Yes, this is fantastic. Even a small drop of water gives incredible sensations. The world is unique. His device is unique.

People strive for improvement, this makes it possible to understand how everything functions.

[warm berry]

This thought always leaves me curious as well, what haven't we missed because we do not know if it's even possible

[worn bolt]

[craggy sphinx]

Ok

[eager haven]

Something

[ornate siren]

Then stop with this shit.

[formal scaffold]

that's why we imagine aliens to be a mixture of humans with some animal / bug, cause our imaginations is limited to what we absorbed and seen so far

[eager haven]

I'll think about

[craggy sphinx]

But I watch the James Webb telescope every day. This is incredible..

I hope it's worth its price.

[warm berry]

Then our science will probably reach a certain point and stagnate because advancement in technology hasn't shown much of a development, then i guess people will value more creativity and science than now days

[ornate siren]

Creativity has declined in value.

[craggy sphinx]

No, that will never happen.

[warm berry]

Then it's more sad than it already is, i mean is it bad? For advancement overall? :/

[warm berry]

I hope that as well

[eager haven]

I agree, will never happen

[ornate siren]

I'm logging off. Hope y'all will have something great to discuss tomorrow. Bye.

(leaving)

[craggy sphinx]

Why will science not stagnate (stop)?Because every idea is the basis of something. This gives reasons. It's an endless cycle. We will never stop asking questions.

[formal scaffold]

while chasing the advanced we sometimes forget the obvious

[craggy sphinx]

And every reason will require a question

Each question will require an answer, etc.

[craggy sphinx]

Good night

[frail wolf]

[craggy sphinx]

Even the most proven and seemingly complete model will require new alternatives.

What do you think this depends on?

[formal scaffold]

Idk

[craggy sphinx]

This is the best thing that happened to humanity.

[warm berry]

Yes, i agree about that, we're never going to stop asking questions, but i believe this cause there are various questions without answers, and some even being from generations ago, i supposed there would be a point where everything is so advanced there's no more to discover. This might be just me not realizing the scale of things science has discovered and its limits of doing so xD

[craggy sphinx]

I thought about this once, it's a good topic.

But I answered this question for myself.

Let me give you arguments that so far not a single living soul has been able to refute.

1. Dissent – The uncertainty demonstrated by the differences of opinions among philosophers and people in general.

2. Progress ad infinitum – All proof rests on matters themselves in need of proof, and so on to infinity, i.e., the regress argument.

3. Relation – All things are changed as their relations become changed, or, as we look upon them from different points of view.

4. Assumption – The truth asserted is based on an unsupported assumption.

5. Circularity – The truth asserted involves a circularity of proofs

[thorny steeple]

I was missing you all crazies from serious chatss ❤️

[warm berry]

That's a really good and well thought argument xD, i think that would be hard to refute even if i was discussing it in my main language, still have to learn a lot about English. Even though i still wonder if there would be a point where the divergence in people's thoughts would cease, not like- not existing anymore, but just converging, similar to how we, even tho having different backgrounds and lives, have so much in similar with each other's lives, like some behaviors of kids that tend to be similar even though they are from different countrys. Still a solid point though

[full river]

See who's back 💜

[craggy sphinx]

Yeah, that's why I'm hoping for James Webb

[craggy sphinx]

Hello

How are you?

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lifted-over-shoulder-gif-12403963

I ammm, Vive literally did thiss:

[full river]

Thanks. Not bad. Just wandering in discord before my class starts. You?

[craggy sphinx]

I hope you remember me

[full river]

Well 🙃

[full river]

Have you changed your name?

[thorny steeple]

I need to talk with you laterr ✨

[full river]

Sure

[craggy sphinx]

No, my old account - @thorny steeple turned off. I wrote to discord support and they answered that it happened by accident.

[full river]

Let me guess. Is it Sufficient?

[full river]

Oh ok

[craggy sphinx]

Yeee

[full river]

Luckily we can always create a new account

[craggy sphinx]

Thank you for supporting the topic

Thanks to all those who participated in this.

(leaving)

[thorny steeple]

@devout shale late happy bday for youu ❤️

[thorny steeple]

byebyeee suffi ❤️

[covert raptor]

Not the best thing actually. It's better than the predecessor, Hubble, you'd say.

[formal scaffold]

best thing that happened to humanity is the discovery of antibiotics

[formal scaffold]

I wonder how many lives has been and still are saved by just that

[covert raptor]

I guess so. We wouldn't imagine building telescopes if we were all dying, our focus will be on that.

I think the antibiotics era is gradually coming to an end because of advanced bacteria or super bugs

[formal scaffold]

there are many things that we ignore the value of, like the organizations that works for peace, thinkers who spent their life to improve communication between people and nations ... etc

[thorny steeple]

I am still here 🤣

[formal scaffold]

The only message to get pinned for some reason

we need more pinned msgs Ig

[covert raptor]

True. The space research is stunted again because of the geopolitical tensions like the Russia situation.

[craggy sphinx]

Fucking politics

[craggy sphinx]

Well bro, I said that because it sounded epic

[formal scaffold]

there's a Turkish saying that goes like this: "sonunu düşünen kahraman olmaz" meaning: "He who thinks of the end cannot be a hero", some people are out there doing so much for humanity yet they aren't properly appretiated, like teachers for instance, Most of them aren't waiting for a reward or a prize they are doing it for a basic salary and hope for future generations.

[craggy sphinx]

Yes, I can also add that we have a lot of scientists in Russia who are deprived of housing and means of supporting life.

[formal scaffold]

yes you can add that 👍🏾

leaving for now))

[covert raptor]

Well not all teachers teach well so there's that.

There's a reason why people are looking to the internet for educational content, and its rise in popularity

[formal scaffold]

That's why I said most of them, I know an English teacher who despite not having an assistant for sign language (which is the case for all other classes maybe they didn't have enough), He learned sign language in a short laps of time so he can communicate with his student and it's not even mentioned in his contract and he's not even paid for the extra effort.

[shrewd garden]

What happens to him when he walked away.

[covert raptor]

I know it sucks but at least he has a job. Many people don't have one. With the mass layoffs and stuff, people who remain have to work harder with the already less labor force.

[eager haven]

Balduino IV, cool guy, I was your friend,we'd fight together

[thorny steeple]

Hello i have a question how can i develop develop myself in critical thinking when i analyse literature works plz???

What should i do to think critically

[opal star]

@thorny steeple hello

i have your answer

do you wanna listen?

[thorny steeple]

Why ur like my shadow🤣🙂😒

[opal star]

because i love you

[thorny steeple]

Yes answer plz

[thorny steeple]

🧐

Bro this called serious chat

[opal star]

oh okay

lemme answer your question

your first step is to be cold blooded

[thorny steeple]

🙄

[opal star]

?

[spring furnace]

Yes. However, you need a strong foundation in literary theory. Have you took a course in literary theory? You need to stick to one literary theory. You also need to formulate a strong thesis statement. Have you took a course in academic writing? Critical thinking and analysis is usually taught in academic writing courses. I'm a university student in English literature and that's where we studied these skills.

[thorny steeple]

Yes me too this year

[thorny steeple]

That's why i'm lost

😶

I wanna improve myself in literature

[opal star]

critical thinking in literature you want?

damn girl

[thorny steeple]

Can i add u plz

[thorny steeple]

🙄

[opal star]

you just need to have a brain and knowledge

dont ask easy questions

[thorny steeple]

Samsam leave me alone I have seeious topic

Serious topic abt my studies

[opal star]

when ur gonna give me attention

[thorny steeple]

🙄

Bro i'm here to learn

[spring furnace]

Without literary theory and academic writing it's going be pretty challenging to write a strong essay. What you need to remember is that you need to provide TEXTUAL EVIDENCE, quote your text to show how it supports your argument. If your essay has no thesis statement, you will get an F. So make sure your essay clearly states your argument at the begining, in the introduction paragraph like this: "In this essay, I claim that [your argument]." and then provide the textual evidence and explain how it supports your claim. Remember to split your essay into logical paragraphs that each focuses on a particular theme or what one might call a "sub-claim."

[opal star]

send me a text that you want to analyze

and critical thinking

[spring furnace]

How about you try to use a dating app instead?

[opal star]

hbu try to use a brain

i m trying to help here

[thorny steeple]

Yes i studu literay theory the last year and i'm gonna study it this year that's why i'm asking we saw some glimpses abt academic writing and yeah in every essay teachers ask us to write in academic way

[spring furnace]

Do you know how to formulate a thesis statement?

[thorny steeple]

I knew in the past but i forget honestly that's why i have to refresh my memory

[thorny steeple]

Totally agree

[opal star]

hey bisky dont support him

[spring furnace]

A thesis statement is your argument about the story. It needs to be clearly stated in the introduction paragraph, or your professor will fail you.

[thorny steeple]

I don't support u coz he or she is right this called serious chat we are talking abt éducation!!

[opal star]

i m trying to help you

you breaking my heart

[thorny steeple]

Ahh yeah i remember now he said to us that without it ur essay is useless

[opal star]

how can you learn without seeing an example

did you watch someone whle doing analyze

[thorny steeple]

Then answer here and stop talking abt attention and love stuff

[opal star]

i m doing it already

you need to focus

[spring furnace]

Your thesis statement needs to be structured like that: "In this essay, I claim that [your argument]." in ONE SENTENCE in your introduction (first) paragraph.

[thorny steeple]

And how can i improve myself in writing good essays

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[opal star]

first you gotta listen me

[thorny steeple]

Go ahead we r listening

[opal star]

?

[spring furnace]

You need to use transition devices, professors love those. For example: "Therefore, ..." "However, ..." "In addition, ..." "Nonetheless, ..." etc. Each transition device indicates what the sentence is doing in terms of logic, so the logic of your argumentation becomes clear to the professor.

[opal star]

or did you watch someone while writing essay

[thorny steeple]

Yes Linking words

[opal star]

like ur teacher is writing and you ask them and listen their story while writing

[thorny steeple]

I wrote some examples but i want to improve my writing

[opal star]

but a good teacher

[thorny steeple]

🧐

[thorny steeple]

Bro ur not an english student ur talking nonsense🙂

[opal star]

if u want to learn by yourself you should write then read what you wrote then think about it and edit

[thorny steeple]

Yes ik

[spring furnace]

You also should provide textual evidence to support your close reading of the story. If you don't provide textual evidence, the professor will also fail you. It's like making a claim without any evidence.

[opal star]

bro u dont know who i am

[thorny steeple]

But i need someone to evaluate me and my geachers r not always free

[opal star]

write the same essay until you like it

[thorny steeple]

Yes ofc without them ur essay is not relevant

[opal star]

this will improve your critical thnkng and writing skills because you will criticize yourself and write again and again

[thorny steeple]

And whenever u provide textuel évidence the teacher will increase ur mark

[thorny steeple]

Yes that's true

U have a point samsam

[opal star]

i always have a point for who understands me

[thorny steeple]

No

[opal star]

also you should learn philosophy to understand how people thinks and how to reach the truth

[spring furnace]

Remember to provide an MLA citation for the story itself at the end of your essay (your bibliography), and also provide an MLA in-text citation next to each quote (the page number in the story enclosed in parentheses after each quote), or your professor will chastise you for plagiarism, and in some extreme cases bring you to a disciplinary committee.

[opal star]

how will you create textual evidence ?

[thorny steeple]

Yes indeed my prévious teacher warns us for that

[opal star]

have you thought about this any?

[thorny steeple]

But what's MLA i forget

[spring furnace]

Textual evidence are quotes from the story. She does not create it, she quotes it from the story they studied in class.

[opal star]

so you dont produce anything lmao

useless essay

[thorny steeple]

Yes exactly u quote them from the work to show ur relevant in ur essay

[spring furnace]

She produces an original argument and supports it by textual evidence from the story. That's the whole point of an essay.

[opal star]

you should come with a new idea in essay

[thorny steeple]

🧐

[opal star]

why would i need to create an argument

essays for to bring a new idea and make improvements

[thorny steeple]

I have another question adding to the literary works i mean the books that the teacher asks us to read what else can i read to understand deeply those works and start writing in academic way i mean sth that adds value to me

[spring furnace]

You will need to write a conclusion paragraph at the end of your essay, reiterating your thesis statement (not a copy-paste, but an exact paraphrase), and then very shortly remind the reader how you supported this argument throughout the essay, without quotations. The conclusion paragraph does not present new evidence or previous evidence! It only summarizes your essay.

[thorny steeple]

💀

[opal star]

😭💀

so you guys write an essay to support an idea?

[thorny steeple]

Ofc!

It's called an argumentative essay

!!!

U will provide arguments to défend ur idea

Bro

[opal star]

how much can you support an idea

[spring furnace]

You can reference supporting arguments from other scholars in your essay. You MUST provide citations and proper MLA attribution for those scholars in your biliography and also in your essay with in-text citations. Otherwise, this is first-grade plagiarism and they will likely put you on probabation for this. So, as long as you are aware of that and are careful to provide correct MLA citations, then you can search for interesting essays about your story on JSTOR. You could type the name of the story and something related to your argument in the search bar on JSTOR and read those essays. Again, don't forget to give full credit, or the professor will take you to a disciplinary hearing, which will remain in your academic record.

[thorny steeple]

🫠

[opal star]

it really doesnt matter after some time

lets make a brain storm

i say this cube is red

support me

write a short essay something

[thorny steeple]

Go sleep bro

[opal star]

come on people

i m teaching you right now

you should be able to support this the most basic idea at least

[spring furnace]

Generally speaking, in academic writing you have to cite anything that you learn or discover from other scholars or people. It doesn't matter how "unacademic" the source is, even YouTube videos, podcasts, blog posts, fashion magazine articles, social media posts, Reddit conversations, TikTok videos, everything must be cited, or it's pure plagiarism. The requirement to cite scholarly essays is not exceptional in that sense.

[opal star]

@spring furnace you too

write an essay to support me

[thorny steeple]

We won't waste our time on ur futile topic

[opal star]

you dont waste your time

you learn

[thorny steeple]

I will ask my teacher he will teach me

[opal star]

your funeral

[thorny steeple]

Gn

Bye

[opal star]

i will teach to other one

@spring furnace

btw does your teacher has a student thst written an essay which is really good and read by many people

used by many people

this is what will you be in future

[spring furnace]

If she will copy someone else's work or argument, then she'll get an instant failing grade in this course, and the university will put her on probation or possibly permanently dismiss her from the department or the entire university. This also includes the use of AI like ChatGPT.

[opal star]

i meant that how many people her teacher taught to write an essay

[thorny steeple]

Yes totally right

[opal star]

how many her teacher's student wrote an essay that used in a lot of academical people

because she choose to follow only her teacher

[thorny steeple]

Bro u have a lot of mistakes in english

[opal star]

so?

[thorny steeple]

🤣

[spring furnace]

It's very odd that your profile states that you are a native English speaker, yet your writing defies convetional English grammar.

[opal star]

okay too much ignorance

you guys write an useless essay without mistakes and i write an essay that help people but with mistakes

[thorny steeple]

How will u show me to write an essay and u make à lot of mistakes in english esp spelling and somtimes ur sentences r ambiguous and can't be understood🧐

[opal star]

People like you always value the wrong things

[spring furnace]

This is called "irony" in poetry analysis.

[thorny steeple]

🧐

[opal star]

you even cant support the most basic idea

[thorny steeple]

💀

[opal star]

support that : this cube is red

[opal star]

show me what u got

[thorny steeple]

Ur native and beginner at the same time

[spring furnace]

An oxymoron, as the Greeks used to say.

[opal star]

why trying to attack me by my profile?

[thorny steeple]

Coz ur talking nonsense

🤦‍♀️

[opal star]

just write an essay to support that idea lmao

[spring furnace]

Your profile should communicate to strangers who you are. She merely states what you communicate to everyone in the public space of Discord.

[opal star]

you cant

i m trying to help you

[thorny steeple]

By that🧐

[opal star]

yep that s what you got

and you should defnetly improve your essay skills

but i dont see any potential in you

[thorny steeple]

Gn bro if i follow u for sure i will fait in my exam💀

They will kick me out from university

Fail*

[opal star]

just ask your teacher to write you an essay to support "this cube is red"

and watch them how to do it

[thorny steeple]

And i won't be able to attend his class anymore

[opal star]

they can write a long essay to support it

[thorny steeple]

😒😒😒😒

[opal star]

you will be the best student of him

[spring furnace]

Don't put people down, especially not those who you hope to date.

[opal star]

anyway

[thorny steeple]

I'm not interested even to date him

[opal star]

waste of effort

[thorny steeple]

🙄

[opal star]

no potential

[thorny steeple]

Go sleep bro

[opal star]

write 100000 essays without value

focus on mistakes

dont try anything new

good luck with that

[thorny steeple]

Bye bro i'm wasting my time on answering u

Bye and stop stalking me

[spring furnace]

Are you from the same class or something?

[opal star]

you will waste alot of time writing useless essays

[thorny steeple]

Who idk this samsam he is stalking me inthis english hub

[opal star]

dont worry about me

[spring furnace]

I don't understand how can someone develop so much passion for a person on the internet.

[opal star]

@spring furnace good luck to u too you couldn't write an essay

[thorny steeple]

Me too

[opal star]

what a shame you guys study on this but not able to do the most basic one

[spring furnace]

I'm an outstanding honors student in my English department, I belong to one of the leading and most demanding universities in Israel. All my grade are A/A+ and my average grade throughout my BA is 93. I'm a fourth-year student. Teach me if you can.

[opal star]

nah i was just messing up with her

it is fun

she is cute

biscuit

[spring furnace]

So I told you from the beginning. Why don't you try to use a dating app instead?

This is just harassing people online.

[opal star]

ok support me and you will learn a lot

this cube is red

write an essay to support this

[thorny steeple]

Yes totally agree soon i will do to him a report

🙂

[spring furnace]

I can't help but to giggle.

[thorny steeple]

Me too

[opal star]

that s a bigger shame i thought you are studying in highschool or something

[thorny steeple]

No bro we r university students ur the one who is from high school ig

[spring furnace]

So teach me sir, I'm sure that you can prove your own argument, no?

[opal star]

i guess israeli people is not good at writing an essay if their outstanding honor student like this

[opal star]

i can create strong arguments

[spring furnace]

I can do this, I can do that... Show, not tell.

[thorny steeple]

Ofc from ur pic that ur putting in ur profile🙂

[opal star]

if i do, will you accept that you dont know nothing?

[opal star]

wow pfp shows that fr

[spring furnace]

I can't accept that which is not true, you want me to parrot?

[opal star]

but i will show you how it is done while you re the outstanding honor student

[spring furnace]

OK, magician.

[opal star]

if i show you this as a not that student that means you dont know nothing

will you accept that you dont know nothing?

[thorny steeple]

Show us mr brillant

[opal star]

but it will be hard for you because your ignorant proud wont let you

[thorny steeple]

Bro stop

[opal star]

stop what?

[thorny steeple]

Samsam go to general chat

[opal star]

why?

[thorny steeple]

ThIs is for seeious chat

[opal star]

i m deadly serious

[thorny steeple]

Serious chat not for joking

[opal star]

i m not joking

[spring furnace]

Why not? Tell us a joke.

[opal star]

no

this is serious chat

be serious please

or go to general chat

[spring furnace]

@opal star Have you decided what you want to study in college?

[thorny steeple]

🧐ru Stealing my words

[opal star]

well i am actually studying in college

[thorny steeple]

No not yet he still thinking why the cube is red🙂

[opal star]

which is your brain not able to think about that

[thorny steeple]

Philosophy🤔

[opal star]

dont blame urself

it is okay

🙂

[spring furnace]

@opal star , I think a BA in Women's Studies could help you, honestly. They teach a lot about the hardships of women in society, and also about harassment on the internet.

[opal star]

huh?

[thorny steeple]

Bro leave me alone ur stalking me everywhere and whenver i asked à question i saw u stop stalking me !

[opal star]

no

i love you

[spring furnace]

Are you serious? Oh well, you are. That's the serious chat.

[thorny steeple]

🙄

[opal star]

i will stalk

[thorny steeple]

Bro read my bio

[opal star]

i read

i m not here to chat and learn

we know you re here to date

[thorny steeple]

🧐🙄

[opal star]

hehe biscuit still hiding huh

[thorny steeple]

Bro ur cringe

I will do report

[spring furnace]

How can you love someone you never met in your life? You are infatuated and desperate for intimacy. I don't understand why are you harassing someone the internet instead of trying to date someone you could realistically have a relationship with?

[opal star]

because she s so cute

look how mad is she

she went to report me

[spring furnace]

She does not give you consent.

[opal star]

what does consent means

[spring furnace]

In fact, she actively rejects you.

[opal star]

what does reject means

[thorny steeple]

It means ur disgusting

I don't love u

U r stalking me

[opal star]

not a common feeling

[thorny steeple]

Look for another prey

[opal star]

biscuit

[thorny steeple]

U need to be reported

[opal star]

why

do you report who loves u

[spring furnace]

Consent is agreement, is when someone expresses interest. Ask her, "Hey, do you want to go out with me maybe?" Then, she can give you consent and say "Yes, sure!" Or, she can reject you and say, "No, thanks." It's not the end of the world if someone rejects you. You can date someone else, you don't need to keep nagging. If you did this in America, Europe, or Israel in real life, you'd be reported and sued for sexual harassment.

[opal star]

btw why you cant write short answers

is it because that your teachers force you to do that all the time

and you became like this

[spring furnace]

No, it's because I'm trying to educate you so you don't get into trouble in real life.

[thorny steeple]

No coz ur brain won't swallow the information

[opal star]

ahh you re cute too

[spring furnace]

And also because most young men are not even aware of what women experience.

[opal star]

am i a man?

[thorny steeple]

No ur à tree

[opal star]

why i dont know about this

[thorny steeple]

🙂

[opal star]

i smell good

especially when it rains

[thorny steeple]

This bro needs à doc

Hope u will get soon

[spring furnace]

Strictly speaking, I don't know if you are a man or not. However, women don't usually harass other women online and tell them "I love you" and stalk them.

[opal star]

why?

[opal star]

i am a woman and lesbian

just my love language is weird

i have never wanted to harass someone

[thorny steeple]

🤮

[opal star]

biscut is not well

[spring furnace]

Oh really, are you?

[thorny steeple]

I'm out

[opal star]

call 911

[thorny steeple]

And i will report u

[opal star]

by?

[spring furnace]

You are told that you are harassnig, so you ought to stop. You are given clear statement of rejection like a red traffic light.

[opal star]

bro please write short

i m so boring while waiting

[opal star]

okay okay

where are you from btw

what is your name

[spring furnace]

Israel

[spring furnace]

@spring furnace

[opal star]

real name

i ve never met israeli

[spring furnace]

Lol, are you interrogating me? I don't owe you any information about myself.

[thorny steeple]

I will report him

[opal star]

no just trying to know you

[thorny steeple]

Or her

[spring furnace]

To stalk me too?

[opal star]

why?

[opal star]

i never stalked anyone

[thorny steeple]

And i will do à report for harassing me

[thorny steeple]

This person is psycho

[opal star]

you insult me a lot btw

[spring furnace]

They are very unlikely to be a woman. Lesbians are very sensitive and respectful, because they suffer the same amount of this type of harassment from other heterosexual men.

[opal star]

if you check i didnt do anything actually

[thorny steeple]

Idk who is him or her but he is cringe and is stalking me

[spring furnace]

Eventually you'll learn that it's not OK and you will remember this incident in the future.

[opal star]

you say stalking me because i talk with you 3 times in here

that s weird

[thorny steeple]

Don't waste ur time on him or her he or she is insane and disgusting 🤮🤮🤮

[opal star]

Are you an attention seeker or something?

[thorny steeple]

Bye i will leave this conversation i came to ask and i start being stalked by lgbt

[opal star]

what

[thorny steeple]

Goodbye

[spring furnace]

Your mind is detached from reality. What do you expect a woman on the internet to do with you? Let's say a random woman on the internet that you stalked so far finally agreed to your "love." How are you both going to date then? How are you going to have a relationship if she's on the other half of the world?

[opal star]

by plane

bro

[spring furnace]

He's not LGBT in any chance. Lesbian women don't act like that.

[opal star]

2023

[thorny steeple]

Idk who is he but he will be reported for sure he is crazy

[opal star]

sterotypes ..

i cant be lgbt she doesn't let me

too much ignorance fr

[spring furnace]

It's not the point. The point is that a woman on the internet is a foreigner to you. She has her family in another place and yours is elsewhere, her culture is different than yours, you don't have same citizenship, you don't have same native language, and so on and so forth.

[opal star]

oh

you thought i love her as the one?

i love her as friends

my bad

[spring furnace]

Sigh

[opal star]

congratulations your first short answer

@spring furnace why you chose english literature ? is it your hobby or you want to be a writer something?

[spring furnace]

I'm very good at it from an academic perspective. That's main reason why. I can also be a very good technical writer as I'm already a Wikipedia editor.

[opal star]

woow about what

[spring furnace]

I also once corrected Encyclopedia Britannica. They were flat-out wrong about something and it was a major factual error, so I presented the evidence and they correct it. WITHOUT GIVING ME CREDIT.

[opal star]

damn

what a bitches

what topic you re editing Wikipedia

[spring furnace]

It's very niche. I'm typically writing comprehensive Hebrew article about historic programming languages like Ada, Modula-2, APL, etc.

[opal star]

wow

i study computers

it is my major

[iron quiver]

What types computers you study?