🧠｜serious-chat

[sonic lion]

It’s always that twisted

[lavish finch]

That's the meaning of emotional labor.

[river stream]

yea, too much protection of the "vendor"

ite. its late and i have work early. l8r

[sonic lion]

It’s like they want to discount they’re stress on u

[river stream]

facts!

bye for now

[sonic lion]

bye!

[oak jay]

My father just shot my gold fish

[covert raptor]

Hope he lands in prison for the crime committed

[oak jay]

Yea…

[sonic lion]

Damn he must be a good shooter

[covert raptor]

Hi

[sonic lion]

Hey

[covert raptor]

How's life in our simulation

[thorny steeple]

Lol

Good

[covert raptor]

You want to laugh, but then it's all programmed. I decide it's not genuine.

[sonic lion]

Suffering

[thorny steeple]

I mean you are just my perception

R u the dev

When will I get new update

[covert raptor]

Lol

[covert raptor]

Why choose to suffer?

[sonic lion]

Is it a choice?

[thorny steeple]

I wish

[sonic lion]

It’s not

https://tenor.com/view/subida-gif-18379274

I’m just like him

[covert raptor]

Sisyphus?

[sonic lion]

Yea

[covert raptor]

What happened when he dies? The rock falls off along with him?

[sonic lion]

He doesn’t

[covert raptor]

Then what

[sonic lion]

He does it forever

[thorny steeple]

What's the point

[sonic lion]

That’s his punishment

[covert raptor]

Lol
Kinda pointless tbh

[thorny steeple]

I will rather find loopholes

Use some brain

[covert raptor]

mario kart racer

[sonic lion]

Camus used that greek myth as a metaphor for the absurdity of life. When we question the meaning of leaving and the universe gives us nothing but silence, our existence becomes absurd. Leaving is absurd, just like the meaningless labor of Sisyphus.

His book is called the myth of sisyphus, it’s a great essay on suicide

[thorny steeple]

Nah

I am already depressed

[sonic lion]

You don’t have to

You don’t need a meaning to live

In fact, the absurdity has a good part

The universe doesn’t own as a meaning

Therefore, you’re free to experience life

[thorny steeple]

What's the point of just leaving the world

[covert raptor]

I like the dude in the sense he was an honest atheist

[thorny steeple]

I don't wanna die virgin

[lethal sparrow]

lmao

[thorny steeple]

[sonic lion]

Again, there is no point and the universe is indifferent to our desire of meaning

[sonic lion]

Right? He was such a humble thinker

[thorny steeple]

Universe is not my concern

[covert raptor]

free to experience haha

[thorny steeple]

We are nothing from perspective of universe

Change your frame of reference

[covert raptor]

you missed the part saying through suffering and pain

[thorny steeple]

I will not die until I get my first hug, first kiss and first ..

And natural death

[covert raptor]

hooker and chill?

[thorny steeple]

Nah

[sonic lion]

But when you consider constellations, for example, they’re just stars that we gave a meaning. Our little skulls are so desperate for meaning that we create little stories, little myths to feed our life

[lethal sparrow]

well, to be fair, we don't really know the answer to that because humans haven't discovered extraterrestrials

[thorny steeple]

Just humans

[lethal sparrow]

but anyway, life is pretty special

[thorny steeple]

I wish

[sonic lion]

You just created a meaning for living, that’s existencialism. The problem is, if those are not achieved you’ll feel like shit

[sonic lion]

It is

[thorny steeple]

U want to say I will die virgin

Puberty is hitting hard here

[thorny steeple]

I am 17

Yes!

Very old.

Yeah

[sonic lion]

No, but the fact that you consider it to be such an achievement is cultural, it’s not a real wish. You’re just induced to want it. Ideology is a ghost: no one hears it, no one sees it, but it’s there, everywhere

[thorny steeple]

Calma moço, you'll get it, ok!

[thorny steeple]

It's not cultural

[sonic lion]

It is

[thorny steeple]

It's biological

[covert raptor]

Correct

[thorny steeple]

What's the point of discussing something which is not in our control

[thorny steeple]

Look who is saying

[sonic lion]

It’s both. The hormones are biochemical reactions but the way you make it the meaning of your life is cultural

[covert raptor]

I'm asexual

[sonic lion]

Me too

And I had that pressure

[covert raptor]

Nah bro that's cap

[sonic lion]

Before I accept myself

Someone who don’t want to have sex

[covert raptor]

Cool way of saying virgin

[sonic lion]

Not all asexuals are virgins

[thorny steeple]

Asexuals are people who has no interest in intercourses, therefore, they can fall in love.

[sonic lion]

It’s people who don’t like having sex and don’t have it

[covert raptor]

They can't be asexual if they were sexual before

[sonic lion]

Yes, they can

[covert raptor]

Maybe you're calling it a phase

[thorny steeple]

Guys, I don't think we can talk about this here.

(ig)

[covert raptor]

We need bonk chat

[sonic lion]

Well, as I said, our environment creates the pressure for that behavior, one can feel pressured to have sex even tho they don’t want it in the first place

[thorny steeple]

Definitelly.

[sonic lion]

Sexuality is about discovering yourself

No, i am

[thorny steeple]

Because you're not a woman. lol

[sonic lion]

I wasn’t talking necessarily about me

[frosty perch]

what's the difference?

[covert raptor]

Sexuality is hyped up by the current culture ngl

[covert raptor]

I think you can be gender fluid

[sonic lion]

Damn

They censured my message

How can you explain the pressure that I, asexual person, felt, then?

It wasn’t biological

It was cultural

[frosty perch]

it's looks like waste of time, don't you think?

[covert raptor]

Oh no, you were not anywhere close to what I went through

[toxic plover]

For saying the F word

[sonic lion]

But f*g is cigarette in UK

[covert raptor]

I think it's fun and playful

[toxic plover]

Refrain from using that word kindly, please i don't want trouble lol it's early in the morning

[sonic lion]

Sorry!

[thorny steeple]

Who do you think it benefits more? Specially in a society where p*rn stuff is considered "normal"? And this kind of stuff doesn't never pleases the woman?

[toxic plover]

All good I'll ensure that mods don't take moderation action, just don't use stuff like the F word orthe N word just say them like that if you want to explain a thought or debate something, ok ?

[sonic lion]

okay

[frosty perch]

if we talk about pleasure, both. but if we talk about money women.

[covert raptor]

It's okay in an utilitarian based society. All boils down to maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain.

[sonic lion]

There’s crazy statistics about heterosexual sex, women always get unsatisfied

[frosty perch]

if you're considering porn it really a bad habit it is and nasty too

[sonic lion]

What

[thorny steeple]

Definitelly!

[toxic plover]

We are a pg 13 server, follow the rules, or else you can talk about that in dms with your friend

[thorny steeple]

Ok, guys, let's switch the topic!

This is getting weird for everyone, here's not a place for this.

[toxic plover]

It's text, so hard to differentiate jokes from seriousness, besides, i don't know you so

[lavish finch]

I don’t see anything wrong with this discussion.

[thorny steeple]

Ok, continue then. I'm just thinking this is a place where people of lower ages comes too.

If you all are ok, ok then!

I'll finish my work. Byebyee

[lavish finch]

And what has been said that people of lower ages would be harmed by?

[thorny steeple]

Bye @sonic lion 🥰

[sonic lion]

Bye Angelline!

[toxic plover]

Oh yeah absolutely not, it's fantastic, was just pointing out that the f word is not allowed (depending on the context) some folks in the uk say that, i understand, but people from outside the uk might misinterpret that, that's why the bot blocked it, there are better words to express that is all

[lavish finch]

That’s different and not what Angelline was suggesting

Angelline wanted to stop the convo and leave too

[toxic plover]

I know, just telling them to be mindful is all.

I'm not here to start an argument, you guys can continue arguing about the current argument thats going, sorry for interpreting

[covert raptor]

Maximizing pleasure and attaining a state of euphoria is important.

[lavish finch]

(leaving)

[toxic plover]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZF3VhlFmBE?feature=share (for people to be mindful just in case)

[covert raptor]

That is from a secular atheist point of view. So the society turning into a pron obsessed is not a bad thing after all? We just make sure we are not hurting anybody. We love our neighbors by guiding them to attain euphoria.

We were discussing existential nihilism, then someone diverted the attention to their virginity

[frosty perch]

what's that?

[covert raptor]

About what?

[frosty perch]

existential nihilism

[covert raptor]

It means there's no objective meaning to life. We create our own meaning.

[frosty perch]

what happens if you don't want any?

[sonic lion]

You’re not talking about our current time right

[sonic lion]

Absurdism

Says that life doesn’t need a meaning to be lived

[covert raptor]

Wdym I'm referring to our current time

[versed relic]

and what u think about that? u belive there's no a objetive meaning to life?

or its just about that though

[covert raptor]

I'm a theist, so I believe there is an objective meaning to life

[sonic lion]

You’re always detached from the material reality. Corn is so bad for both men and women, but specially the women

[frosty perch]

Good

[covert raptor]

How am I detached from reality lol?

I was agreeing with Angelina's point about the over sexualization of our culture

[versed relic]

oh okok, i am so. i was about to say about the nothing comes from nothing and taking about the book how reason can lead to god

but i guess u know about it

[covert raptor]

What's your framework for morality? If not utilitarianism?

[covert raptor]

Sure. It is impossible and illogical.

[versed relic]

i agree

maybe the problem is in what you think the brute initial point is.

[covert raptor]

I believe God existed eternally

[frosty perch]

me too

[versed relic]

yeah i just want to try to give thoughts to belive in the pointless meaning of life and try to talk about that

isnt it the topic u wanted to talk about?

[frosty perch]

and what do you think that is the starting point?

[covert raptor]

There has to be a first cause or else it's an endless chain of events.

[versed relic]

a non caused point

[covert raptor]

The first cause has to be eternal.

[frosty perch]

and how is that?

[frosty perch]

why do you think that?

[versed relic]

ok ok cna u tell me what kind of god u think God is? based on the premise that there r 3 "types" of, the good, the evil and the indifferent one

[versed relic]

that's the result of thinking of how everything is caused or dependant of others causess in chain. till u get theres a point which is causeless cuz logic lead u to that

[covert raptor]

Since it is not itself “caused,” it cannot have a beginning

[frosty perch]

but if you said that there is no God, because he is the cause

[versed relic]

God is the cause of everything but its not caused by anything

[versed relic]

but you can have a caused fact that is eternal. like the example; if God has put it foot on the sand and print a footprint on it then the footprint is as eternal as god is cuz god is eternal

both r eternal but one of em is caused

(sorry for my English is hard to talk about this in a secondary language)

[sonic lion]

let’s just be like Kant and accept that such a thing as God can never be experienced by limited creatures like us

[covert raptor]

I don't disagree, but there's a possibility for it to not remain eternal

[versed relic]

in fact there is

[covert raptor]

Because God can intervene and change the footprint, making it not eternal

[versed relic]

unless God never rise up its feet 🫣

[versed relic]

what about this? what u think, this is the question i am struggling rn

im not sure about my answer tbh

[covert raptor]

There needs to be good

[frosty perch]

can tell you what I think with due respect?

[covert raptor]

It's a two tier justice system lol

[versed relic]

can u repeat it in other words? i didn't understand sorry

[versed relic]

why u think this? do u know the Saint Thomas rules? is this the reason?

[frosty perch]

sorry you're right, can I tell you, what I think with all due respect?

[versed relic]

of course, go ahead

[sonic lion]

so polite

[covert raptor]

God has created us in a way that we can experience him. It doesn't matter if we are limited creatures.

[covert raptor]

Yeah we don't really throw rocks at each other

[sonic lion]

That makes sense

[frosty perch]

I believe that he is necessary and is right, not just good, that word doesn't match him. and for me is not enough

[sonic lion]

I didn’t even thought about it while studying him l

[versed relic]

for me the word "Good" is probably the best word to describe God tbh

.

[frosty perch]

the problem, at least for me is, sometimes bad things happen in order to complete good things.

chaos sometimes is first in order to have calm and order

[versed relic]

yeah and that is not contradictory to the meaning of Good if it can be explained as "bad things" to make a bigger Good thing

[covert raptor]

You don't have to. From the ontological argument, God is by definition the greatest possible being. A God that was evil or indifferent would not be maximally great, therefore God must be perfectly good.

[versed relic]

Saint Thomas explained that very well

[covert raptor]

Where? I don't know much about his works.

[versed relic]

idk the name in English give me a second to look for it

[covert raptor]

His works are gigantic volumes lol

Actually nice to show someone who thinks ancient people were dumb and stupid

[versed relic]

theres a resume

and it will work cuz u r already theist

the name of it is "the five ways" by Sanit Thomas

ots very short (the resume) the entire work is around 600 pages

[sonic lion]

specially in the medieval

everyone thinks it’s a lost period

[fair hound]

👍

[covert raptor]

Yeah I've been amazed by a lot of it

[versed relic]

so, how u explain the existence of evilness in the world? (i have answered before but I'm not sure if u think the same)

[covert raptor]

I think it's under "The Argument from Perfection"

[versed relic]

idk, haven read that

[covert raptor]

We have free will. To choose to love we need free will, but the trade off is that there can also be evil.

[versed relic]

but its unnecessary to feel love

unless god wish it exists to make love stronger and more precious

in that case its acceptable

[covert raptor]

You don't want to feel love?

[versed relic]

i don't meant that sorry

[covert raptor]

Then we are reduced to robots and machines

[versed relic]

no no

y bad, i meant evil is not needed to feel love

like pure love could be possible. ots not needed a trade off

[covert raptor]

It's circular then there is no free will

[versed relic]

that's another topic

[covert raptor]

free will means we have the ability to love or to harm

[versed relic]

god knows everything right? know every single step we gonna walk til the end cuz its not determinated by time being eternal

so, is free will possible of someone knows how our life gonna end till if we r still alive?

isnt it more like we r in a movie that can be forwarded and rewinded

more than it. if time exists then if u go to past or future u will se the same line or behave a person do

then ot won't be like free will. its more a pre traced line

[covert raptor]

I've heard of this argument. If you know the outcome of a football match, does that mean the players haven't played the match?

[versed relic]

right

its like an absurd to know the end of something that has not happened but its contradictory to the "power" we usually attach to god

the all knowing (idk the word in English)

[covert raptor]

God is outside of our finite time, so he can see the full picture

[versed relic]

yeah that's why i say that free will is pointless for this power of god

if he can forward or rewind our lifeline the result of every single moment will be the same

like a time line

[covert raptor]

Doesn't mean we haven't played it out

[versed relic]

im not saying it wasn't played. im saying its not free will in the sense you will always make the same every time

like when u watch a movie. u can forward or rewind the movie

and the actors will do the same

every time

[covert raptor]

Oh okay

So do you think the actors in the movie have had no free will?

[versed relic]

correct

they did exactly what it supposed to be

and god knows what u gonna do before u do it. so its predestination

[covert raptor]

I will disagree with you

[versed relic]

and i love u do. that's why im still here

[covert raptor]

I believe in predestination through free will. I think it's possible and makes logical sense to me.

[versed relic]

how, its not intuitive for me rn

[covert raptor]

Oh so God predestined you to have this discussion?

[versed relic]

yeah absolutely

for a bigger reason idk what is it yet

but god knows it

[covert raptor]

Cool. I appreciate your consistency

[versed relic]

nice to meet you btw

[covert raptor]

You too. Where are you from?

[versed relic]

Colombia and you?

cool. i have added u if u want to accept. i have lot of thoughs that hardly can tell to ppl i know. maybe ud like to talk about that letter

[covert raptor]

Sure

[versed relic]

oh cool.

this conversation lost its fire rn lol

anyway its very late here

i guess i gotta go 😵🤯

[covert raptor]

🔥 🔥 🔥

Turning up the heat

[versed relic]

jaja

it be another time. nice to know and see you later

👍

[tranquil delta]

Serious chat?

[lusty zenith]

Only sometimes

[ornate siren]

No, most of the time.

[tawny hinge]

Hello fellows

I want to ask a grammar question

I'm writing something like this

This featured is desired because it would help the user to improve its/their progress

The right word is its, right

[graceful bronze]

their is more common

[tawny hinge]

Even if user is singular?

Silly question, but I'm curious kekw

[civic reef]

They both mean different things here. If you select "its", then this sounds as if you were saying that if you implement that feature, then it is gonna be liked, because users can improve the feature itself, so thats why it is desired. If you say "improve their progress", then the feature is desired, because the users want to benefit from it for themselves

There is not a right word in this sentence. They are just different meanings

But, if i assume you want the user to make progress thanks to the feature, then absolutely go for "their progress", if you refer to the user with "it" then this may turn out to be disrespectful

[civic reef]

Yes, this is not a problem, because "their/they/themself" can all be used in a singular way. Look at this, themself is an equivalent of themselves, which is plural, while themself is singular. So, yes.

[tawny hinge]

Makes sense, I wanted to avoid the plural of users, but it does make things clearer

Thank you both

[tawny hinge]

Thank you a lot

❤️

[thorny steeple]

Hi everyone

are you alright?

[lavish finch]

Eisan is in a role lock with himself.

[hot goblet]

Guys may I ask does someone know about "Song to Celia" by Ben Jonson I'm new to this

[wild copper]

hi

[lethal sparrow]

What's ironic is the sci-fi future we dreamt was one where robots took over the back breaking work, letting humanity focus on arts, sciences and philosophy, but the reality we got is one where humans are still responsible for a lot of the back breaking work, while AI robots are now writing movie scripts, composing music and painting paintings.

[ornate siren]

What do you want to know?

[humble pewter]

well the "back breaking work" requires a lot of flexability and adjustability to the current circumstances, i know that from experience. The robots, even with the help of AI are not ready for such a challange, the AI can barelly distinguish between a cat and a dog. It's way easier for computers to do human intellectual work because that's what they were made for. Other than that the replacement of the low-skilled work force with robots may pose other issues, like high unemployment rate. But when this time comes I think the whole humanity will need to change, because the whole concept of work for money will become obsolete.

[little kindle]

hi guys

[tawny hinge]

@static pivot sorry for ping, but I ĵust realized something

We have English clases in English, but for beginners that's not a possibility

Englishs clases in other languages could be interesting

I might be interested at teaching basic English for the Spanish speakers if we ever did this

[last geyser]

Hİ guyssss
sup

[humble pewter]

why do you ask? let's say that this fall i'm starting my senior year in high school

[thorny steeple]

hi

[potent bridge]

Hi everyone i'm ben AKA Skykiller022222 and i'm new on Discord and i'm trying to have friend and improve my 4 english skills can you please guy help me to be a native speaker or belangue ?

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[potent bridge]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

How are you

[potent bridge]

I'm doing good thank you iwhat about you ?

[thorny steeple]

I am just tired

[potent bridge]

What did you do ?

[thorny steeple]

I worked a lot

[humble pewter]

well is this a bad thing? I have experienced working in a factory, so I guess I can say what I have said

[thorny steeple]

Hi

[humble pewter]

very serious, can't get seriouslier

[thorny steeple]

Good morning 🌞

Heyy! Yes, I do!!

You're Russian, right?

[humble pewter]

you put experience in quotes, so I guessed you used it in a derogatory sence

oh

[prisma narwhal]

hey! does anybody here want to do a language exchange?

[humble pewter]

just a cool trick you can put an expression between two asterix like so to make it bold

two on one side, two on the other

[prisma narwhal]

yo

[prisma cipher]

Yes

You don't ask me, but still

[ivory vale]

Glad to meet Russians here. There's little opportunity for this currently in my country (Germany).

[civic reef]

Well, speaking about germany, could you explain to me why eastern germans suck at english

like i mean specifically german people who live near polish border, or like few tens km from it, literally they seem so bad at english, while germans from berlin so good

[ivory vale]

After world war II, Germany was divided between the countries which had won the war.

Eastern Germany was the Russian zone.

And then there was the cold war, a conflict between the Russian federation and its allies and the US and western Europe and their allies.

So people from Eastern Germany didn't have opportunity to meet English speaking people or read books/see movies.

[civic reef]

Ah, okay, I see

[ivory vale]

The border opened up end of 1989.

[civic reef]

I mean I should have suspected all of this myself without any hints, cuz technically am polish, and i live like 5km to germany, but i wanted to hear how you approach it

[ivory vale]

Yeah.

I'm from Eastern Germany but in the south, close to the Czech border.

[civic reef]

well, same here, but from polish side

[ivory vale]

And my parents told me they had never any contact with the other side.

[civic reef]

czech republic is also close to me

Do you, by any chances, know Gorlitz? Spelled with the german umlaut o, which i do not have on my keyboard

[ivory vale]

So I am from the Eastern part of Germany but also from West Germany.

No, I just know that there's such a city.

[civic reef]

Oh, thats enough to know, i guess

Probably the only german place I saw in my lifetime, despite living so close

I am kind of scared of germans, because they do not speak english, unless i head towards the western part, and also there is always some, idk, just some feeling of discomfort, if I am talking to a person who I know is german

[ivory vale]

I've been to Pilsen and Prague.

And I have met Polish people from Krakow.

[civic reef]

Were they kind or was it pretty awful lol

[ivory vale]

I had a good time with them. We lived in the same student dorm.

Very creative. Student of architecture.

[civic reef]

That's good to hear. Many people, same as me, still kind of do not feel comfortable with germany or its people

[ivory vale]

There's some trouble with Germany currently.

20 percent of voters support a party that is considered undemocratic by many.

Very conservative, very opposing foreigners and in particular refugees.

[civic reef]

I suppose they also agree with a certain painter?

[ivory vale]

And East Germany has a higher percentage of them than West Germany.

[ivory vale]

They are called Neo Nazis by many.

[civic reef]

This doesn't really sound too optimistic

[ivory vale]

So I can imagine that talking with someone like that, in particular if you are a foreigner isn't easy.

[ivory vale]

I guess it's similar to the split in society in the USA.

It's a big problem for a society to have groups of people who don't talk well with each other.

[civic reef]

I think I would not manage to hold a conversation with someone like this without feeling uncomfortable

[thorny steeple]

cool.

[ivory vale]

Hi Karen

[civic reef]

But what's supposed to happen will happen I suppose, hopefully am going to leave europe sooner or later anyway

[ivory vale]

My hope is that people find a way to integrate their differences before violence spreads.

And I am trying to contribute to that.

[thorny steeple]

hi. do you speak from germany?

[ivory vale]

Yes, I am in Germany.

[thorny steeple]

my dream is to visit germany

[civic reef]

Very kind, I am too tired of trying to convince someone to something else, I just accept what they say and try to move on, because I can not fix certain issues, especially knowing what germany was like in the past

Nothing more to be suspected, I guess, than the repeat

[ivory vale]

I don't think it's limited to Germany.

[civic reef]

Yes, you are right, it is not

[ivory vale]

I see authoritarian governments all over the world gaining power.

Times are dire once more.

And that creates desperate people

We do have something new though, which former generations didn't have.

The opportunity to talk with people from all over the world.

Time to sleep. Bye

Good talking with you.

[civic reef]

Thank you, same for you, have a good sleep

[civic reef]

Poland, very close to polish-german border

Why did you ask?

[thorny steeple]

Helloo

[eternal ivy]

hai

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

Both my cousins are making out with other ppl

My friends too

Im here left alone. Wish someone would ask to kiss me or something, I feel like the weird and shitty one

[thorny steeple]

Migaaa, I can give you a hug ❤️

[thorny steeple]

Thank you ❤️

[thorny steeple]

Is it normal to kiss like this out of nowhere there? Or it's a personal choice?

[ornate siren]

What, is this some dating app or something?

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

Its like a sort of festival in my Mother's Village

Its near a river and it has Woods around it

As u can imagine, ppl go to the Woods to f*** or pee

My cousins are so pretty, I feel like the ugly one a lot of times

[thorny steeple]

😂

I just wanted to kiss someone to see what it feels like

[thorny steeple]

Just because no man is wanting you? Seriously??? OMGGG

To put it worse, the girl my cousin was kissing is so pretty, I wanted to be the one kissing her

Carol, you're crazy!!

Im so jealous

Eita!

[thorny steeple]

I mean, its kinda weird

And I got super jealous of my cousin kissing the boy bc I felt hella atracted to him

Yes

I think you're projecting onto them your feelings.

As soon as you find someone for you, you will stop it.

[thorny steeple]

Most men have no standards and just want to get anyone, so

[thorny steeple]

But this is not the kind of men you want, right!!

ugh

[thorny steeple]

Wait, who exactly?

Or is it? 👀

[thorny steeple]

No

[thorny steeple]

The world is a mirror, what you think of yourself, you'll see it outside.
They are not wanting you because you're rejecting yourself! I bet you're cute!

I have to work here now, later I can talk more about this if you need.

[thorny steeple]

Ok, thank u

[thorny steeple]

I cant stop since my cousin literally gets all the boys she wants

Every boy is atracted to her

And she is perfect in every aspect

Thats why my family always compares her to me

I try to dress up and cute but then I see her and she somehow is always looking better than me

[thorny steeple]

Because it's not about the looks, it's about your self concept and energy.

[thorny steeple]

No, its not, lets be honest. My features are literally trash, trust me

My genetics arent even in my favour

I don't even have an emoji to express how I am feeling by reading this.

I know this shows a really horrible image of me, but I just feel like this sometimes, like now. Its not always

It all just got worse when I took a photo and my nose looked so bad

It is literally so big

[ornate siren]

Why don't you reply to me in the DMs?

[thorny steeple]

You dont mind that?

Im just writing this here bc Im still in the party sitting alone with just one of my cousins

And I have friends, but we dont vent with each other

[ornate siren]

I'll be able to help you, I think

[thorny steeple]

Girl, I can't really help you in a few characteres here, but I really would you like to at least point you to into the right direction here. Remember this, write a note and remember always: 1. Look to do therapy! It's not a bad thing, it's not for weaks of things like that, or at least, work on yourself, specially in your self concept. By what you're were saying about your mom in the other day, the roots of these feelings are there. It's crucial for you to work on this, this will avoid you to get into the wrong relationship! And 2. Find ways to love yourself, in the end, we are only that we have in our lives forever. You need to be with you not against you as you are right now! Remember that you can turn this in your favor! ❤️

It's not going to be overnight, because it didn't took overnight to be like this now.
But it will worth all time spent! How old are you? In your tweenties?

[thorny steeple]

I did therapy bc of my sh

My Mother stopped taking me to sessions out of nowhere

We were doing monthly sessions

My therapist moved of her other clinic to another one further away

[thorny steeple]

You can help yourself in other ways! I did it to myself, if I was dependent on someone to this, I was headed to the darkest and deepest hell of this life, LOL!

[thorny steeple]

bro hahahahahha cool

But yes what you said is true, last year I was having so much fun with my friends here and lots of boys were hitting on me. Including attractive ones

[thorny steeple]

So my Mother just ignore me when I talked abt what the day of my next session could be

My therapist didnt say I was good to go. She had even given me homework, which I didnt do💀

[thorny steeple]

Im ok now, sober since last year's summer. And Im so sorry you went through it

I was actually really confident during the school year, bc I had good grades and that lifted me up. But now during holiday I have nothing of that

I would switch all men who reachs out to me to only one 100% amazing and virtuous, omg. I wouldn't even think twice! Attraction like this means nothing to me, it's kinda boring and meaningless. Ok, it's cool it means you're pretty and they are interested in use you, but what more? I don't want this. However, true love is hard to find! Hard as hell, Jesus!!!

You are right

I wish I could say everything I'm thinking.

Say it

Nooooo

Really

Hahaha!

If it is a reality check, feel free to share

[earnest monolith]

I can understand yourfeeling. Am also a single

[earnest monolith]

Cute

[earnest monolith]

Only nose ?. My all facial features looks ugly

[tough dirge]

What we chat here.

[thorny steeple]

[tough dirge]

You?

Or your humour?

[thorny steeple]

Me?

[thorny steeple]

What's the time in UK

[bold saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahq0sHf-MnA

[thorny steeple]

The radical part among Muslims does not include all Muslims. I can't say all my thoughts within the server rules. But Islam is not a religion I support anyway.

@graceful bronze

[graceful bronze]

at least cut the dude on his pedo sh.t . I dont even talks about his religion, i asked what part of it he prefer and apparently i was 100% correct in the statement

[thorny steeple]

What you don't know is that most Muslims dont accept or dont want to accept certain truths. At least this is the case for Turks. I don't know other countries. Turks dont know and read almost nothing about Islam generally. they usually just believe it because it's traditionally inherited. Majority of Muslims dont know the truth about their religion, while others find these facts to be true because it is a cultural part of them. We don't know who is who, so it is a more logical stance to try to understand them and to stand up to radicalism and adopt secularism. and this is more helpful... Fighting them doesn't do you or me any good. what we have to stand against is radicalism, in all ideologies and religions.

[graceful bronze]

yeah rn it’s sounds great but in practical ways apparently people are just start screaming change the topic but in the same time have no problems to attack christian dude on his believes

i rest my case

[thorny steeple]

this is not true for this server, at least for me. because if I had witnessed such an event, I certainly would not have allowed Christianity to be attacked. And I can understand you. Just nevermind. If we see a radical thought, it makes more sense to react to it. We get nothing by attacking beliefs.

@graceful bronze

[thorny steeple]

[civic reef]

yes, it is unnecessary to attack each other, but honestly there are people here who would love to tell you that, for example, victims of japanese crimes on korean, chinese, and other soils do not even matter, or outrightly oppose the abuse of human rights by autoritarian states like chinese gov, it is just that... they are not the most common occurence, thankfully

[devout shale]

Most western religions are a joke imo, and I'm western

[grizzled kestrel]

Hello

Hi

You are from

🥦

[tranquil delta]

Too much seriousness

Can't handle so much seriousness

[thorny steeple]

good morning guys. here 07:24am

[thorny steeple]

Yay. Now that I woke up I can say I wouldnt have a problem if all the ppl I knew there werent making out with someone. I dont want to be alone there, yk. I want ppl to dance with

[thorny steeple]

Very primitive if you ask me. I aint doing that 😂

[thorny steeple]

Probably not. Honestly my other features are decent, the nose is just... But I gotta accept it since I dont want to get surgery

[earnest monolith]

May be you can dance together with your future husband lol 😆.
I will definitely pray for you.

[earnest monolith]

I didn't seen that in my country

[earnest monolith]

I was just joking. Actually I am good looking

[thorny steeple]

Rn Im not even desperate for someone to kiss me. I just want ppl not to leave me alone bc they are kissing someone. I want a friend or cousin to dance with

[thorny steeple]

If you allow me to correct you, you should use "I haven't seen" in this sentence

[thorny steeple]

Slayy

[earnest monolith]

Yeah ofc. Because my English is not good . I am a beginner

[thorny steeple]

Ik. I saw that in your profile

[earnest monolith]

Ooh thanks for the correction

[thorny steeple]

You're welcome

Wait, this was a mistake, I did not intend to send this

[earnest monolith]

Ooh . May be its because you think you're alone

[earnest monolith]

Ooh that's ok

[thorny steeple]

Probably. I will probably have to reach out to new ppl Who are friends with these ppl

[earnest monolith]

I don't know your age . If you're a teenager then the thought like this is normal

Every teenager will pass through this situation

[thorny steeple]

Im 18, I guess Im still a teenager

[earnest monolith]

Yeah , then it's a common thing.
Me also gone through this situation few years back . It's just a play of hormones

[thorny steeple]

Honestly I know I am envious of my cousin bc she gets all the boys she wants and in my head I just think "thats bc she is pretty and Im not". Im trying to shut then down rn, but its difficult

Bc I can see the proofs in front of me. I can see her face and I can see mine

[earnest monolith]

may be your prince is waiting somewhere.

[thorny steeple]

I dont want it honestly, I just want not to feel ugly rn. I dont even want someone rn

[earnest monolith]

Hey Caroline don't compare you with some one .

[thorny steeple]

Ik, Im trying, thanks

I think I also do it bc my mom has done it her whole life. With friends, cousins, at all times

[earnest monolith]

And don't bother about what other people thinks about

[tropic basin]

Huh

I’m getting major pick me vibes

Or are you acc being genuine

[static pivot]

Go back to sleep

[tropic basin]

Lmao

@next marlin

Here we go

[next marlin]

I am back

[tropic basin]

Hello

Loser

[next marlin]

You

[tropic basin]

You

[next marlin]

You

[tropic basin]

YO WHAT

[thorny steeple]

I am being genuine

[warped scroll]

I couldn't agree more with you but we'll judge individually So forget degenerated societies I guess you live in Turkey I live there as well I faced many bad situations and had many bad experiences with Muslims but I understood that it's not about Islam It's about miserable human shits I'm Muslim since 18 yo Now I'm 32 yo I'm appreciate it My life changed a lot in good way

[thorny steeple]

hahaaha no

[thorny steeple]

?

[thorny steeple]

I'm sorry for this, what kind of behaviour you faced

[warped scroll]

Dw In a nutshell People use religion for their dirty aim For example charities etc.

Religion I think so

[thorny steeple]

Where are you from and where do you live in?

We talking about,im talking about more serious extremism

[warped scroll]

As I said before I live in Turkey Istanbul wbu?

[warped scroll]

Could you give me an example to understand more?

[thorny steeple]

No, I mean, what's your nation

[thorny steeple]

Sharia.

[warped scroll]

I'm a Kurdî Is it important?

[warped scroll]

Is it problem?

[thorny steeple]

No ofc, I'm trying to understand the difference between the country you come from and Türkiye.

[thorny steeple]

Yes ofc.

[warped scroll]

Oh I see I'm from Iraq and I'm Kurdî But only I answered the question anyways

[warped scroll]

Which part of it is problem?

[thorny steeple]

Human rights part.

[warped scroll]

Believe in yourself
Keep moving forward
Make mistakes and learn from them
Don't care people who talk shit

[thorny steeple]

I asked because I was talking about radicalism. Türkiye is a secular country. There are people who support Islamic radicalism, of course, but they are much less. The event you mentioned can happen in any institution and in any nation, independent of countries and religions. We can't call it radicalism, but it's an ugly behavior, of course.

[sonic lion]

Educate yourself

[lavish finch]

Hi Whale. I’m looking for someone who speaks Kurdish to volunteer with me to teach English to Kurdish speakers. Do you know anyone who might be interested in doing that?

[warped scroll]

I hope so Give me a min

[warped scroll]

Exactly bc schools teach us almost nothing imo

[warped scroll]

But it seems you talked about Islam Never mind I don't have time that much to ask all day long questions to learn exact problem Anyways

[thorny steeple]

i see, have a nice day

[warped scroll]

Don't afraid to ask and learn new things
Keep awake your brain with reading books etc.
Don't play game all day long It kills your brain

Don't let them people judge you when you do good things

[golden sphinx]

Run, run, run, until you fall, rise, rise, so you can run again.

[warped scroll]

Don't forget that life is really hard and you'll face many bad things

[earnest monolith]

Focus on your studies

[sonic lion]

I agree with you, specially in my country. And being self taught is way better

Also, you shouldn’t only read, that’s passive learning. Give yourself time to think and formulate authentic observations

[warped scroll]

I see Also only school education isn't enough to being educated or intellectual person

[sonic lion]

Exactly

Go beyond, always

[earnest monolith]

Yeah. Am also a beginner

[sonic lion]

Don’t be stuck to an ideal of success or wanting to be better then someone, be curious and devote to yourself

[warped scroll]

It's great dude Keep do exercise and make it better

[warped scroll]

Absolutely

Glad to hear that

[warped scroll]

Exactly sometimes have fun with yourself, friends or family then focus again ur goals

https://tenor.com/view/happy-easter-gif-21158905

My pleasure dude 🥰

[thorny steeple]

do you lead a happy life?

is your being fulfilled?

[warped scroll]

Yes it does

[warped scroll]

Still working about it

Never stop until die

[trim sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/907118070542237747.gif?size=48&name=nyasBully6&quality=lossless

[thorny steeple]

Hello, serious people.

[warped scroll]

Hello serious Rana

[thorny steeple]

Hello serious person, How are you?

[warped scroll]

Doing well Hbu? Do you wanna talk about any serious topic?

[thorny steeple]

Yeahh.

[thorny steeple]

But I have to study, I'm gonna return later.

[warped scroll]

Okay no problem Study first Have a great time

[thorny steeple]

Thanks Kind person

[thorny steeple]

Would you like be friends?

[warped scroll]

Why not 😇

[thorny steeple]

How old are you? I'm 17 years old

[warped scroll]

I'm too old for you I'm 32 yo Also here isn't to talk cheat chat afaik

[warped scroll]

@agile ledge I just a friend for you 🤭

[thorny steeple]

No problem, I can learn a lot from you. Nice to meet you.

[thorny steeple]

????

[warped scroll]

Oh okay Nice to meet you too

[thorny steeple]

Talking later, I'll go to study for my exam :((

[warped scroll]

Just kidding around

[thorny steeple]

Me too

[warped scroll]

Okay Don't be sad You have to study now To be happy in ur future

[thorny steeple]

Yeahh I thinks, Thanks, take care

[warped scroll]

Take care of yourself as well 🥰

[austere cloak]

how to be serious

[valid raven]

we guys aren't serious so leave here

[patent plank]

be serious

[abstract gull]

Hi everybody.

[wheat viper]

hey everybody

how wana practice English

[agile ledge]

???

[warped scroll]

Hi

[sonic lion]

Have self respect

[warped scroll]

Joking Never mind

[gusty thistle]

helo everyone..just got back after a month

hows everyone doing

[thorny steeple]

Hi, I'm okay wbu

[ornate siren]

Has it become your job to show up in here for a moment nowadays and comment on how much you aren't serious?

[thorny steeple]

calm down, she is a princess

[ornate siren]

Not now she isn't.

[thorny steeple]

she was once, a princess

[covert tapir]

Hi everyone I'm Hiba, I'm looking for new friends to chat and help me to improve my English level. Feel free to send me a message❤️

[cursive wolf]

Hello Hiba

[covert tapir]

Hey, how are you ?

[lavish finch]

FYI. I'm keeping detailed notes on who is serious and how serious they are.

Everyone is given an IS (index of seriousness) score from 1 to 10.

[cursive wolf]

I’m pretty alright, how was your day?

[thorny steeple]

I need to look at people like 🧐or😒

and you need to wear a tie

to be official

I'm sooo serious

so you have to dress like the "principal"

[devout shale]

don't be unserious

[devout shale]

whats my score

[static pivot]

https://youtu.be/1jHfY0dDZxA

@valid raven do you speak like this

[lethal sparrow]

https://www.latimes.com/lifestyle/story/2023-08-16/how-to-learn-english-for-free-resources

[thorny steeple]

[lavish finch]

5.2

[full river]

What are the consequences of getting low scores? 🧐

[thorny steeple]

The insecurities went away, thank god

I dont know how, I just looked in the mirror and I was like "damn, I look good"

My confidence swings so much 💀

Thank you to everyone that helped me

[thorny steeple]

It's normal, the important thing is that you never abandon yourself.

@full river ❤️ ❤️

[devout shale]

Ouch

You know I have 2 personalities

[thorny steeple]

Hi Hiba 🙂

[valid raven]

lol is it your job to judge and analize what my job is?

[river stream]

are you judging and analyzing his job of judging and analyzing you?

[earnest monolith]

That is great carolin 👍

[earnest monolith]

👍

[lavish finch]

You will be given Serious Assignments to help you develop your resolve.

[ornate siren]

What might my IS score be?

[ornate siren]

*analyze, and yes

[ornate siren]

How familiar are you with the Scottish accent?

The video went viral on YouTube a long time ago.

[thorny steeple]

Nocnocnoccc

Little bro @ornate siren

Long time no seeee

[ornate siren]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

Hey llo

Small talk right

I get it.

🤭

[ornate siren]

Let's start something serious? Like the effect of art and paintings on our minds?

[thorny steeple]

Perfect!

[thorny steeple]

Introduce your ideias and then I continue ok!

[ornate siren]

*ideas

[thorny steeple]

But last time you corrected me to ideias

[ornate siren]

No

Anyway

We come across many types of art in our lives.

I mean visual and fine arts, not performing arts.

Many styles, like Impressionism, Modernism, Expressionism, Cubism, Post-Modernism, Realism, Surrealism, Post-Impressionism, and of course we have others like Renaissance, Baroque, Romanticism and Art Nouveau on the other side.

The 1st, 3rd, 4th and the 7th have been known to have the most profound effect on the mind.

[solemn torrent]

Hello Nocturnal, I was reading and I want to ask wich is your favorite style of art

[ornate siren]

The ones that I mentioned, along with Romanticism and Baroque (effectively an advanced version of the Renaissance, signified by dark shades and more realistic impressions).

[thorny steeple]

Why?

[ornate siren]

Moving on, we come to discuss Impressionism.

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[ornate siren]

Impressionism, as we know it, emerged first in France in the mid-19th century under artists like Manet, Pissarro, Renoir, and Monet.

[thorny steeple]

Ok

[ornate siren]

It was characterized by thin brush strokes and heavy stress on circulation of light in sceneries, so as to create an impression of the subject on the mind.

Monet's Garden

[thorny steeple]

It's very beautiful!

[ornate siren]

Impressionists sought to capture the fleeting qualities of light, colour, and atmosphere as well as the emerging psychological principles concerning human consciousness.

The paintings were particularly blurred (to evoke wonder on the identity of the subject and improve perceptive differentiation), and mainly concerned landscapes drawn "en plein air".

What can be said of the feelings created in the mind after seeing this painting? Anyone?

I suppose not, everyone sleeps.

[thorny steeple]

I like it, it reminds me a lot of good things. Specially feelings I got from some movies.

It reminds me afternoons at the parks.

That something magical is about to happen.

And I can see the color of the flowers and the sunlight on me.

Oh gosh, how I miss my home city.

[ornate siren]

Charming.

Impressionistic paintings were engineered thus to create such thoughts in viewers.

[thorny steeple]

And now that I'm listening to The Sisters of Mercy, I remember when I was a blogger and used to go to some parks in my home city to make photoshoots with other people.

[ornate siren]

The play on the pervasive sunlight is the most important feature of impressionism.

[thorny steeple]

Do you ever tried to paint?

[ornate siren]

Have*

Anyway, moving on.

We come to Expressionism, the opposite of Impressionism.

[thorny steeple]

Will you ignore my question?

[ornate siren]

Sometimes I have

[thorny steeple]

Ok, move on.

[ornate siren]

Expressionism was focused on the distortion of images, brushstrokes and colours, to reflect the psyche of the artist.

Impressionism sought to modify the feelings of the viewer, whereas Expressionism showed the feelings of the artist themselves.

It emerged in Scandinavia in the early 20th century.

It was regarded as unacceptable to the then schools that stressed on the importance of the viewer, but finally concluded to be particularly aesthetically innovative, avant-garde.

Many Expressionist artists have portrayed their anxiety (for it is the most sharp of feelings) through their paintings.

I personally like and was struck by the famous painting "The Scream" by Munch, where he sought to express and release his pent-up emotions through the mouth of a distorted man.

I opine that the seeming scream that is being produced by the man in the painting is so touching that it distorts the surrounding air and water, yet unheard to the nearby pedestrians. I can imagine what Munch was going through and what indifference he was bearing when he painted this masterpiece. "Hell is where you speak on and nobody listens" - the best visualization of how strong emotions may be.

So much for Expressionism.

Now we come to my favourite style - Surrealism.

Surrealism emerged around Belgium and France just after World War I.

Many painters realized the trauma that had been nested in the mind of the survivors of the War and took up the brush to free them of the crushing emotions and entertain also themselves through the depiction of irrational images in mundane atmospheres, and stressing on what intriguing connections the unconscious mind may form in situations and channel them to our conscious mind through (chiefly) dreams.

[thorny steeple]

Makes sense this creation through trauma, somehow. It's a way to deal with it.

[ornate siren]

The Philosopher's Lamp by Magritte (presumably a self portrait)

[thorny steeple]

LOOL

[ornate siren]

Incidentally, Magritte and Dali were, in my opinion, the greatest surrealist painters to have ever lived. This painting may seem funny at first, but it's very much thought-provoking to me. Here, Magritte portrays his helpless state after the War. In my opinion, he has shown how a great subject like philosophy can be perpetual, and survive countless such savage Wars, through the timeless candle which has had its very much of its wax melted but still has managed to procure an endless supply of wax-like support. He compares this to the transient self of a human, who has seemingly realized this himself and gives us a melancholy stare, reflecting on the savage mindset humans still are of, for all of their technological advancements, to cause the deaths of so many fellow creatures through so bloody wars. In the end, he has shown that many humans will come and go. The nose in the pipe has 2 meanings. First, it stresses on how a boastful creature like Man can be burnt to death with even his creations for leisure, like such a tiny thing as a pipe. Secondly, it shows how Man is self-sustaining and self-destructive, because the burnt pieces of his nose go down his mouth to feed him. Only this, that the candle of knowledge burns on for ever.

[thorny steeple]

[ornate siren]

Lastly, we come to the famous field of Cubism.

Cubism emerged in early 20th-century Europe under the great painters, Picasso and Braque.

It's special in that in Cubist works of art, "the subjects are analysed, broken up, and reassembled in an abstract form—instead of depicting objects from a single perspective, the artist depicts the subject from multiple perspectives to represent the subject in a greater context." Multiple perspectives also serve to bring the various, dichotomous emotions of the Cubist to light.

[thorny steeple]

I'm not sure if I ever liked Picasso stuff.

It's not my vibe, ig.

[ornate siren]

Guernica by Picasso

This is known as one of the most powerful anti-war paintings ever made. Here, Picasso displays the plight of the villagers of Guernica in 1937, when the village was bombed due to the Spanish Civil War.

The shape and posture of the bodies express protest. Black, white, and grey paint to set a somber mood and express pain and chaos. Flaming buildings and crumbling walls not only express the destruction of Guernica, but reflect the destructive power of civil war. The newspaper print used in the painting reflects how Picasso learned of the massacre. The light bulb in the painting represents the all-seeing and punishing eye of God, there are the depictions of the Stigmata Of Christ, and the broken sword near the bottom of the painting symbolizes the defeat of the people at the hand of their tormentors. Daggers that suggest painful, sharp screaming have replaced the tongues of the horse, the bull, and the grieving woman. The chaos seems to happen in closed quarters provoking an intense feeling of oppression. There is no way out of the nightmarish cityscape. The absence of color makes the violent scene developing right before one's eyes, even more horrifying.

This painting alone is enough to prove that Cubist paintings are brimming with messages and symbolism.

As I said, the different perspectives represent different emotions.

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Not only emotions, represents different beings with different life stories and xp.

[ornate siren]

Exactly.

I'm emotional that the serious chat remains mostly empty when I remain at FULL liberty to discuss and debate.

[thorny steeple]

Expose your points and be freeee

Do your best even when it's alone at your home.

Even when no one is watchinggg or hearinggg.

Even when no one cares.

And even when they care too, ok!

[ornate siren]

Okay 👍 thanks.

[thorny steeple]

Continue the art stuffs, I'm reading.

[ornate siren]

Finished for now

[thorny steeple]

It's just that it doesn't have any much to say, honestly.

[ornate siren]

Sorry?

[thorny steeple]

I mean that I can read what you say, but it looks like more a description of something, there's nothing much to opinate like a debate or conversations.

Like I'm reading an art book, not talking to a person, y'know.

[ornate siren]

I'll talk about it later, that's all. Studies.

[ornate siren]

No one to debate with. Actually, since there's no one to argue with now, I presented my remarks and opinions on the art, and an opportunity to everyone to object to those or support me, when they come online.

A presentation it was.

[thorny steeple]

Nooo, it's not like a bad meaning, it's just like to have a serious-chat.

[ornate siren]

Farewell for now.

[thorny steeple]

Okok

[full river]

Great. I'm interested

[thorny steeple]

we as humans are social being and when we dont get enough attention, specially as kids we tend to become people pleasures, attention seekers etc

[thorny steeple]

This is not a rule. But thanks for your advice.

@ornate siren i liked the art talk

[thorny steeple]

i know, it depends on people and how they cope up with situation and things, just my two cents

[thorny steeple]

The thing that I wanted to share with Nocturnal is that we don't need to be waiting on others to make our best. This is what I did, at least for myself, because we will never be 100% for everyone, and this is not even necessary.

[thorny steeple]

i agree, its a nice thought

[thorny steeple]

Thanks for sharing anyways, it's always good to make a reflection and see if I have these traits! 🥰

[thorny steeple]

anytime

[thorny steeple]

I wish one day my english can be enough for the serious chat

[ornate siren]

Keep faith and it will.

[thorny steeple]

Thank yoy

You

[devout shale]

Also keep studying

[thorny steeple]

How wany years/month did you learn english

[ornate siren]

How old are you?

[thorny steeple]

5 ay

[thorny steeple]

just work hard

[devout shale]

It depends on how fluent you want to be but I would say it took me 1/2 years or so to be able to write well, but again it depends on what level you want to reach and how much you study

[ornate siren]

I am ever learning.

[thorny steeple]

i understand

but i cant write

what is the my problem

Gramer

[ornate siren]

*Grammar

[thorny steeple]

Thank you very much for the answer

[thorny steeple]

I wrote in turkish

[devout shale]

Read more

[ornate siren]

Very good

[devout shale]

Things that interest you

[devout shale]

You are welcome

[thorny steeple]

Guys the problem is i dont know how to start

[ornate siren]

@thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

I will contunie but I dont know what will I do

[thorny steeple]

Under 18

[devout shale]

👍

[thorny steeple]

Why did you ask

[thorny steeple]

open youtube
watch aksen kahraman english lessons

for turkish people

there are 146 parts

[devout shale]

There are some useful apps like Duolingo or Duocards, that can help you

[thorny steeple]

I know duolingo,voiscreen etc but i cant do plan

[thorny steeple]

dediğimi yapsana

aksen kahraman izle 146 bölüm

[thorny steeple]

I looked

Ill watch

But isnt so long 10 mn for just a/an

az değil olum

https://youtu.be/3vSYELkrjog

[devout shale]

What do you mean

[thorny steeple]

10.27

a ünlülere geliyor
an ünsüzlere

neresini anlamıyon

Anliyorum iste

Bunun icin 10 dk uzun degil mi

o sırada cümle kuruyo

öğreniyorsun daha güzel

THEY TOLD ME I COULDN’T, THAT’S WHY I DID MANNNN

[thorny steeple]

on youtube channels;explains theyre plain and they talk about so much thing like grammer,speaking etc

[thorny steeple]

Helal

sen bahane buluyorsun öğrenmek isteyen öğrenir

[thorny steeple]

I cant combine them all

[humble lion]

Speak english my children

[thorny steeple]

i m not your kid

[ornate siren]

Exactly

[thorny steeple]

Of course thats the why that im asking

[humble lion]

Kardeşimsin sen

[thorny steeple]

Speak english please

[humble lion]

Freaked out

[thorny steeple]

Anyways ill learn english and ill show

go study

dont come here

dont cry this channel

🤦‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

Okay mom

[lavish finch]

Turkish?

#1006557094889136230

[thorny steeple]

[lavish finch]

Suprised?

[thorny steeple]

yes

teacher was angy

[lavish finch]

No, I’m not angry

I’m glad we have separate language channels

[thorny steeple]

i was kidding

[lavish finch]

I am dead serious

[thorny steeple]

help

[lavish finch]

What would you like help with?

[thorny steeple]

i mean, dead serious people make me nervous

[lavish finch]

How come? What do you think is going to happen?

Are you afraid of losing your sense of humor?

Of becoming serious yourself?

[thorny steeple]

no, it suddenly feels like I might get a harsh reaction that I didn't expect.

[lavish finch]

If you don’t scare yourself thinking about what might happen, how do you like the reaction you are getting?

[thorny steeple]

I just think very serious people are a little scary.

[lavish finch]

So you don’t like it?

Maybe you would like a lighter more playful mood.

More silly irreverence

?define irreverence

[cursive bobcat]

Word: irreverence

Definition 1 (noun): a disrespectful act
Definition 2 (noun): an irreverent mental attitude

Definition requested by james_green

[lavish finch]

More play

[thorny steeple]

Being playful doesn't mean being disrespectful sir.

[lavish finch]

I’m enjoying this conversation with you but I am starting work now. Enjoy the channel. Bye-bye.

[thorny steeple]

i see, have a good day

[ashen comet]

hello bro

[devout shale]

Seriousness level over 9000

[dawn karma]

Hi, Leilif, this is Eugene.

[burnt timber]

Woah

[thorny steeple]

hi eugene. nice to meet you

[dawn karma]

so am I

[thorny steeple]

so are you?

[dawn karma]

what are you doing nowaday?

s

excep online chatting?

[thorny steeple]

not so much, just practicing.

[dawn karma]

might be boring

[thorny steeple]

maybe, you?

[dawn karma]

I've got lots of things to do,

do housework

learning foreign languages

[thorny steeple]

i see.

[ember trellis]

Hi!

[prisma cipher]

[ornate siren]

@lavish finch

[dawn karma]

sorry to be late for reply

I am from Canada, Montreal. Where are u from Leilif?

[thorny steeple]

no need sorry.

[thorny steeple]

türkiye

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-canada-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-gif-16035629

[dawn karma]

your english is very good

[thorny steeple]

Turkey* the official name is Turkiye rn

[prisma cipher]

Why no one tell my English is good

[dawn karma]

I hate frog, they are so rude

and jealous

[prisma cipher]

What do you mean, how frogs can be rude

[dawn karma]

just like you

[prisma cipher]

I'm not jealous

Just rude

[dawn karma]

Leilif, never mind about that frog, let's go on

[prisma cipher]

[dawn karma]

I have a humor, want to listen, Leilif?

[prisma cipher]

I can listen while she is off

[dawn karma]

first, i have a question, frog

where do you live?

[prisma cipher]

Istanbul

[dawn karma]

okay, shall we start?

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[dawn karma]

Leilif! are you still off?

frog, how about waiting for her?

[fossil basin]

Loveeeeeee you ❤️

[thorny steeple]

love you tooo @fossil basin

[fossil basin]

No you, I love you more :3

[thorny steeple]

yeah sure why not

[dawn karma]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

[thorny steeple]

[prisma cipher]

Lol I don't see a gif but description,

[lavish finch]

Hi

Anything in particular?

Or do you just enjoy my attention

[ornate siren]

What may my IS score be?

[lavish finch]

Of course

7

[ornate siren]

I'll overlook that

[ornate siren]

Thanks

[lavish finch]

No need to overlook anything.

I enjoy attention.

especially undivided attention

I'm giving everyone in this channel my undivided attention

For the next 15 min

Then I'm leaving to work on a project.

[dawn karma]

frog, are you still there?

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[dawn karma]

Hi, Mr James, this is Eugene, Nice to join this channel

thanks for creating such an excellent channel

[lavish finch]

I'm glad you appreciate it.

I think we've all done a pretty good job with this channel.

[dawn karma]

Thanks again

[dawn karma]

I told you that i had a humor, right?

[prisma cipher]

Yes

[lavish finch]

Nocturnal, I'm sorry I missed your introduction to art theory earlier today.

[dawn karma]

Actually, it was about a frog, want to listen though?

[ornate siren]

Please, there's no need for you to apologize.

[prisma cipher]

Yes sure

[dawn karma]

one sunny day, there was a begger

walking along the road

[ornate siren]

My job starts

[ornate siren]

*beggar

[dawn karma]

thanks, a beggar

and suddenly a female frog came to him and she spoke

"hey, Mr, i am a princess, and i ve changed like this due to the magic

[ornate siren]

But yes, have you viewed it yet?