🧠｜serious-chat

[civic reef]

Do you prefer aubergines over courgettes?

[toxic plover]

Is autism similar to adhd, similar, different, it is a different term for it or none of the above.

[thorny steeple]

autism is similar to adhd but they are definitely not the same

[white shard]

I think everybody who prefers the word aubergine over eggplant should be culled from our society

[lavish finch]

But if you attempt to force people to change, expect a reaction and push back.

[thorny steeple]

Yeah I like brinjal more.

[vernal crypt]

And as I stated
We've evolved to a certain extent.
People can nominate their differences in order to attract like-minded individuals

[thorny steeple]

Has anyone heard of ladyfingers?

[vernal crypt]

They are similar in that they are both in the neuro divergent area

[thorny steeple]

yeah change can't be forced and it never should seeing as true change comes from a willing mind

[vernal crypt]

The biscuit...

[thorny steeple]

Wait what? It's a biscuit in your country?

vector where are you from

I'm still finding that out

[vernal crypt]

In Italy they call them Lingua dell'gatto

Cat tongue

[toxic plover]

Do you think by 2030 racism/phobias relating to sexuality and or genders will drastically decline ?

[thorny steeple]

no

[civic reef]

by 2030 we will all be dead to all of them

[thorny steeple]

Hi everyone

These are ladyfingers.

I still don't know why we call them ladyfingers

i think many people who have phobias for such things are driven out of disgust rather than fear or hate and disgust is a much stronger force to break

[toxic plover]

Did the cat bit your tongue ?

[thorny steeple]

Maybe they look like them

[civic reef]

"a", not "the"

[lavish finch]

No. I don't see any reason to believe that will decline. Unfortunately I see reasons that it will get worse.

[thorny steeple]

indeed polarization is increasing

[toxic plover]

But that wouldn't be called a phobia, as the primary emotion of phobia is fear

[thorny steeple]

not necessarily

[vernal crypt]

In 6 years time?
I can't imagine hate just disappearing
There's too much ignorance, fear and greed.

[thorny steeple]

phobias aren't just fear based

[toxic plover]

Hence why i said the "primary" factor

[thorny steeple]

that doesn't disprove my point

an extreme disgust is still a phobia, i was just saying a phobias isn't always fear based

[civic reef]

This is incorrect, hence should not be used with why, since they are used for the similar purpose, and you sound very weird tbh

[toxic plover]

That is my understanding of phobia

[thorny steeple]

Does rejecting an ideology or a movement count as being a phobic?

[toxic plover]

It's driven by fear

[vernal crypt]

Can you give an example?
Extreme disgust as a phobia..

[toxic plover]

No

[thorny steeple]

a bad experience can cause a phobia, and if they seem to have a bad experience they'll hate it forveer

[lavish finch]

I define fear differently. Fear is a spontaneous reaction to real danger.

[toxic plover]

We all shall, especially mr james

[thorny steeple]

it's like if you ate a tomato and absolutely hated it and found it digusting now, you'd freak out if someone force fed you tomatoes after that

[toxic plover]

I would want mr james to teach my unborn son in 2030

[lavish finch]

I'm flattered

[toxic plover]

Hahaha

[white shard]

tryphophobia is one of those that could incite such a response. I've seen people vomit from it.

[thorny steeple]

It's weird people get labelled as a phobic when they speak against a movement, it's not the same. You could be absolutely fine with gays and such, yet reject the LGBTQ movement.

that's not fine then

[civic reef]

By 2030 flat earthers are gonna prove they were actually right all the time and you'll be flattened, not flattered lol

[last geyser]

whatsup guys

[lavish finch]

There is a tendency to apply psychoanalytic terms as a form of rhetorical attack, and I don't think that's helpful for dialogue or for understanding these phenomena.

[toxic plover]

People misuse the word phobia a lot, it's very common in social media, unfortunately

Not just phobia but a lot of words.

[thorny steeple]

Wasn't Eartn a pyramid?

No phobia,no fear,no doubt, always positive

[thorny steeple]

True that.

how does that apply to homophobia

[white shard]

I am using both discord dark and compact modes.

[lavish finch]

Generally when someone feels fear, we feel compassion for them. If you're saying that a person is ignorant and hateful, that's different than observing a fear response.

[white shard]

For some reason I am not able to change the theme on my phone, so it is light by default

[thorny steeple]

word

angelline the observer

[lavish finch]

I make a distinction between fear and anxiety. Where anxiety is a reaction to a thought where there is no real danger.

[thorny steeple]

mf está observando 💀

i think i said that right

Cosmopolita chat,many people,many countries very good

[lavish finch]

Yes, very good. It's delightful, isn't it.

[white shard]

Like when the bus is near my stop and I hesitate to ask the driver to let me exit there.

[thorny steeple]

Iam from Canary Islands

[lavish finch]

We have this funny ability to create a secondary reality in our minds, and our body cannot tell the difference.

[vernal crypt]

Yes, I understand what you're referring to. It's a phobia. But irrational fear towards a people is not necessarily a phobia. It's just an irrational fear, usually based on ignorance or a life experience followed by an unwillingness or inability to reason.

[lavish finch]

Well, what is rational and irrational is debatable.

[thorny steeple]

See you later friens.Have a nice day.

[vernal crypt]

At times it's debatable.

I believe it.would be based on the situation

[lavish finch]

No, it's always debatable.

[white shard]

I don't think THAT particular situation could be attributed to phobia

however, my fear of crossing roads is one

[vernal crypt]

Is it possible you've not been in a fearful situation that was rational?

[lavish finch]

If I say that 2+2=4 is rational, and 2+2+5 is irrational, there can always be someone who says "no".

[lavish finch]

Not sure what you mean,

[vernal crypt]

I'm not talking maths

[lavish finch]

Fear is quite rational.

[vernal crypt]

That's what I said

I also spoke about irrational fear based on ignorance.

[lavish finch]

And that's what I consider debatable.

[white shard]

so when a person with thalassophobia sees a large submerged object and feels intense fear, it is rational?

[vernal crypt]

Let's say a woman is severely beaten by a man
She can fear that man
But to be afraid of all men could be considered irrational.

[white shard]

even if they are thousands of miles away from it?

[vernal crypt]

That's a phobia, not a fear

[lavish finch]

Then I wouldn't call it fear.

Because there's no danger.

[vernal crypt]

A phobia is not the same

[white shard]

but phobia is an irrational fear of something

[vernal crypt]

Irrational is the key word

[lavish finch]

Not by my definition. We can debate the technical definition.

[thorny steeple]

man we're still on this?

[vernal crypt]

Would you like to offer a new topic?

[thorny steeple]

hmmm

yes

[white shard]

cricket noises

[lavish finch]

Are people really ready to change? I'm not.

[thorny steeple]

i'm ready to change

[white shard]

I'm changing

[thorny steeple]

i think there's always something you can find about yourself worth changing

nobody's ever "perfect"

[vernal crypt]

Absolutely

[thorny steeple]

it's a biblical concept i actually agree with a lot

[white shard]

self-improvement is a process with no finish line

[thorny steeple]

and honestly perfection is in the eye of the beholder

[white shard]

that's why everybody says that it's about the journey, not the destination

[thorny steeple]

How long have you spent without a phone or social media?

[prisma sentinel]

What is social media?

Are Discord and Messenger also social medias?

[thorny steeple]

12 years

silly cat

[tepid hound]

I know exactly how does it feel. Some people were just very unlucky to grew up in such bad condition.

[tepid hound]

Seems like it is a media to connect a person to another. It is a container to provide any activity between people.

[tepid hound]

Yes definitely

Unfortunately I don't know either, one thing that I can see is that those kids are filled with the correct love from their parents.

That sounds amazing, I believe you can do it, stay strong and remember that you are not alone in this situation.

[thorny steeple]

break the cycle

[tepid hound]

Anyway do you know a song named bacause of you by Kelly C? That song describe exactly how people like us feel. @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

who doesn't know that song haha

[tepid hound]

maybe someone in somewhere haha

[thorny steeple]

yeah maybe lol

where are you from?

[tepid hound]

[tepid hound]

Bali, and you?

[thorny steeple]

woah Bali?

Bali is beautiful

mind telling me about it? i'm from west coast USA

[tepid hound]

Yeah it is absolute paradise of nature.

[thorny steeple]

i love nature

i want to escape the concrete hell of my city

[tepid hound]

Sure I would love to, what do you want me to tell about Bali?

[thorny steeple]

just how is it? the people and the nature etc

i like to hear people talk about their home land or in their language

[tepid hound]

It must be hard to live in a busy city

[thorny steeple]

some people love the city but i prefer a view of nature

and i live in a state called arizona which is constantly extremely hot

I don't like big cities,I like small villages with forrests and wild animals

[tepid hound]

Mostly the Balinese people able to speak English and well-engaging with foreigners, therefore we are very welcome and appreciate people who come to visit our island. Bali is just one of a small island from the country, but this tiny island were different from the rest of the island because of its unique culture and nature. Bali have so many beautiful and incredible beaches, blue ocean, forest, etc. Really paradise of nature. Perhaps because the country is still developing, the people is still struggle for some issue such as trashes, conventional mindset, etc. And furthermore, the living cost is super affordable plus the bonus of bunch of ocean in the neighnorhood,

[tepid hound]

We do have a lot of naughty monkeys here 😅

[thorny steeple]

naughty monkeys?? 😭😅

your english is very good by the way

[tepid hound]

yes they will steal your phone, glasses even your french fries without doubt!

[thorny steeple]

does Bali struggle with rising water levels??

[tepid hound]

Hehe thank you

[tepid hound]

not really, we tend to get earthquake and crazy strong rainstorm in the ocean environment.

yeah, but they can also take a selfie with you. some local train the monkeys to be good boys!

[thorny steeple]

i love monkeys

so goofy and funny

My English is no good , but I try so hard all time

[tepid hound]

well then you need to come to Bali and I would love to know that you don't change your mind about monkeys hehe.

[thorny steeple]

when i have the money i will go haha

[tepid hound]

It is okay, enjoy the journey it is really valuable experience. Eventually you master that.

[thorny steeple]

what matters is that you try

[white shard]

https://tenor.com/view/jut-keep-studying-finals-weeks-jokes-dora-gif-13006775

[thorny steeple]

[earnest monolith]

I am from kerala.
Here we have sea ,rivers, hills, paddy fields

[earnest monolith]

but everyone dreams about going to usa or other developed countries.
Including me

[thorny steeple]

In my case,learn english is very important because,I work in Europe,some countries in Europe, english is not oficial language,but many people speak english...

[devout shale]

lucky you

[thorny steeple]

Iam truck and bus driver.

[tepid hound]

Kerala sounds new to me, may I know where is that?

[tepid hound]

[earnest monolith]

kerala is a small state that situated in Southern most part of india

[thorny steeple]

do you speak tamil

or malayam

or however u spell it

India is very big country, the population over one billion...

[devout shale]

[dull otter]

Hey u guys!!!

[thorny steeple]

I think

[tepid hound]

Have you try to learn English by listening podcast or such audio file?

[tepid hound]

I saw on the static that this year India is the biggest population country in the world, only different a little bit with China.

[tepid hound]

I see, good to know the info, thanks!

[civic reef]

How is the life in Bali? Do you regret living that place, or is this fine with you? like i heard that countryname max 3 times in my life

[tepid hound]

The same for me, the first movie for me is Barbie in 2000s era, not the current Barbie movie lol.

Anyway, have you guys watched Oppenheimer?

[thorny steeple]

Yes,is true.India is the second country with more habitants in the world,I think...

[ornate siren]

It's the most populous country in the world, currently.

You wanted to tell me something?

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[ornate siren]

And Bali is not a country, it's an island that is part of the country of Indonesia, I think.

[civic reef]

yeah, google says it is kinda distinct culturally but is not fully independent country

my bad, sorry

[tepid hound]

For me as a person who grew up by always move from one to another island, I can say that the life in Bali is the best life in my whole life. The whole island is really different, it's like a western life in Asian island. People here are more open-minded and accepting diversity. I personally will stay here for the rest of time if I couldn't make it to other land. I love Europe and Pacific Islands, Hawaii, really want to visit it in future. What about you?

[civic reef]

ahh, okay, wow am glad you like your place so much, when i hear about not really popular areas, like less populated or just not that mainstream, then i sometimes feel that the people that live there may have it hard, because chances they can afford a lot in life are smaller i feel, but maybe thats just not the case for everyone and am kinda not seeing it as it should be seen

I don't know a lot about indonesia in general, so, Bali is even more abstract to me, but definitely sounds interesting, i gotta see that place in my life then lol

[civic reef]

I am actually from Poland, like i live next to the border with germany, approximately 5-20km depending which route i take, its not very fun, because thats countryside, and I'd love to try moving somewhere and trying different lifestyles, and am sure I am going to, but yeah, Poland is fine, its just that countryside is sometimes hard

[earnest monolith]

My mother tongue is malayalam. I also know little bit of tamil

[earnest monolith]

1.4 b

[earnest monolith]

Even kerala has a population of approximately 30 million

[tepid hound]

Ahh I see that. Poland is one of our option to stay for a while in this or next year, glad to see a Polish here, hehe.

[civic reef]

Yeah I am glad to be offered that, but in general i dont accept too many friend requests, because I end up chatting with too many people, and i guess id prefer just being sometimes on servers when i feel like it, easier for me and i dont have to care that much, but thank you

[ornate siren]

Fine by me.

[thorny steeple]

Canary Islands in near Africa 80 kilometres...

[civic reef]

oh, but why is it this way? are you planning some travelling to europe, then?

[thorny steeple]

In Canary Islands live over 2 million people...

Heyy! How are you?

Many people travel abroad for work,I also...

Hi.No so bad.

[ornate siren]

Where are you from?

[thorny steeple]

Iam from Gran Canaria,Canary Islands, Spain.

[ornate siren]

Lovely.

[thorny steeple]

Thanks.

[tepid hound]

Yeah a bit strange right, well my bf is a Slavic man, so yeah must be good to visit his neighborhood. hehe 😅

[tepid hound]

Spain, cool. How is Ibiza going there?

[civic reef]

ohh, is he polish?

[ornate siren]

The prospect of you, mutating? @thorny steeple

[thorny steeple]

I'm good, kind of shocked tbh. I entered into a vc room and the dudes were watching some weird stuff. Now I just need to delete it from my mind.

@ornate siren Noccc! You're here!

[ornate siren]

I'm here

[thorny steeple]

Did sleep yet?

[ornate siren]

I'll sleep 5 hours later

Man, I'll have to talk with you REAL seriously in DMs. You got some concepts.

Deus vobiscum

[tepid hound]

No, he is Belarussian.

[civic reef]

ah, okay fine, anyway thats still close, i have no idea how you two must have met each other but so sweet knowing there are couples like you haah

[civic reef]

yeah and feel free to do that, its safe here so, plus there is a lot to see if you've never been there, maybe polish people are not good at english, but in major cities theres always someone speaking

[thorny steeple]

I not slave,I only a worker try better work conditions.

[devout shale]

like people eating pineapple pizza?

[tepid hound]

hehe yeah it's seems to be rare for a Slavic Asian couple. He travel to live in Bali, that's how we met. 🏝️

[tepid hound]

I see thank you! It does sound interesting. Is Polish almost the same as Russian language?

[tepid hound]

I once asked an Italian if he likes crispy pizza, ended up shocked by the yelled, it's kinda of fun. 😬

[civic reef]

yeah actually it is far from it, polish and russian are probably the most unrelated languages among all slavic ones, speakers can understand some words and sentences, but we are not very close

[thorny steeple]

You like crispy pizza?

[civic reef]

polish is similar to czech and slovak, russian is the closest to ukrainian and belarusian

[devout shale]

lol we are very serious about pizza

but im not so strict

i just dont like pineapple

[tepid hound]

Ahh I see that is very interesting. Before I thought all European are the same, then I found that there are 3 types of European, Germanic, Latin and never knew what Slavic is before.

[tepid hound]

umm sorry but well some restaurant in Bali they really made good crispy pizza. 🥲

[civic reef]

you know thats very very common haha, i once thought asia is one simple region, but then i learned about east asia, southeast asia, the countries, etc

[tepid hound]

yeah I can see that..

[thorny steeple]

That sounds good.
Wish I also try one.

[tepid hound]

May I know what is it that make pineapple wrong in a pizza?

[devout shale]

you know for me pizza is like bread and you are not supposed to eat fruit with bread i guess

it just doesnt taste right

[tepid hound]

yeah haha, we really live in the other side of the world. Can you please tell me the difference from the European types? Maybe simply from their apperance or skin or face type?

[tepid hound]

ahh wow yeah that makes a lot of sense!

@devout shale is all Italian name always had 'O' vowel?

[civic reef]

we definitely do, but i love southeastern and eastern asia, i wanna visit all the countries from these regions one day

so the difference is kinda just tough to draw, because so many people look close to each other, but germanic people are often the tallest, at least dutch people, latin people tend to have a tiny bit darker skin, more often, and slavic people usually are the whitest, like scandinavians so for example swedish people

also scandinavians are more likely to have very light eye colors, slavs too but a bit less common, and germanic people too, nations like spain or italy are sometimes deemed to have darker eye colors

same as light hair color is more prevelant in slavs, scandinavians, and germans or french people sometimes, but its less in spanish people or italians etc

[devout shale]

many have it yes, but not all

[ornate siren]

I'll go to sleep now

[frosty hamlet]

Revives chat

[thorny steeple]

[strong cloud]

Everyone listen

[thorny steeple]

Suffi, are you talking alone?

É doido like me!

[tepid hound]

Wow you explained it very well, thank you. It is so interesting to know the differences between different types of ethnicity, especially for my favorite ones, I really love Europe. I am glad that you also like the part of Asia. Most of people outside the continent and us too tend to think that the real Asia is only East and Southereast part. The most common stereotype from Asia is our difficult alphabetic language (Mandarin, Japanese, etc), Anime, archipelago country (Indonesia, Philipine, etc). For Central, South and West Asia they really is different from us. We don't really have common thing since they have their own world. India, Arabic countries is really hard to be considered as the part of Asia for most people.

[tepid hound]

ohh okay I see that

[civic reef]

yess, i know that, like for me asia is mostly southeast and east, i know asia is bigger than that, but i simplify it because am just too lazy to learn every country lol

but i could list you southeast and east

by heart

unfortunately nothing other than them, as soon as myanmar's border begins, i simply do not know other countries to the left so to the west

[thorny steeple]

I'm just being playful with you. It means "crazy" in my language. No offensive way. 🥰

🥰🥰✨✨

[tepid hound]

[tepid hound]

Your knowledge is more than good to understanding the Asian continental itself.

[civic reef]

like am aware that there is myanmar at the west of southeast asia, myanmar has like a border to the right with thailand, thailand has laos and cambodia to the right, laos has china above itself, to the right of laos there is vietnam, and across the sea to the east there are philippines, below them there is indonesia, and in indonesia there is two tiny malaysia parts

and like next to china there is taiwan, to the top so north there is japanese sea and japan, and across the sea there is south korea, and north korea which touches china isolating the south

but thats all, if you ask me whatever else, am not gonna know

[devout shale]

Put the map down lol

[civic reef]

lmao no, this one i know

but thanks

[tepid hound]

Wow applause for you! Good knowledge! 👏

What else do you know about Asia?

[civic reef]

Nothing

thats the funny part

[devout shale]

Cool jk

[civic reef]

okay maybe something, but like am very limited, some people here are so good that they tell you everything cuz they studied geography for example

[tepid hound]

Have you ever heard about Asian fetish? As the person from White country, could you explain it to me?

[devout shale]

I also like asia

South east particularly

I like Sri Lanka

[tepid hound]

really? thanks!

[tepid hound]

Sri Lanka is part of South Asia with India and the rest fyi.

[devout shale]

Yea

[civic reef]

ughh i did hear that, and, like, i think it is pretty weird, for example asian women tend to sometimes be looked up to, because some white men think that they are "obedient" or things like this, i dont believe in this honestly because everyone is individual and there are no real traits i guess

[devout shale]

😊

Indonesia is cool too

[tepid hound]

What is obedient?

[tepid hound]

What do you like from Southeast Asia if I may know?

[civic reef]

"obedient" means someone listens to what you say and does whatever you want them to

[tepid hound]

Ahh, I love Italy too, all the European counties. Sending huge love from Bali. 🧡

[devout shale]

People, place, nature, culture

[devout shale]

🥰

[blissful cosmos]

💀

People can have preferences or be turned on by different races for non racist reasons, it only becomes a problem when a person is being used just because the person has a fetish for them

[civic reef]

yess

[tepid hound]

Ahh I see.. Actually Asian women essentially still hold tight the conventional values especially when it comes to relationship. We really caring for our partner and surroundings, and it comes from heart. Sometimes maybe can sounds a bit too much. 😅

[tepid hound]

Good to hear that!

[civic reef]

yeah possibly, but i guess these are your values you've been taught, so, yeah like fine because for example in the west some people tend to be dishonest towards each other or not even care about each other, just some, not everyone, so yeah

[tepid hound]

Hmm I see that. I honestly just knew that things such as fetish like that is exist.

[civic reef]

i actually used to be learning japanese and, i gave up, which is awkward i know, but i managed to be able to recognize and read up to 1000 chinese characters in my peak, now am weaker because i forgot too much and this is embarassing, but it taught me a lot and now i can sometimes recognize some mandarin words, or i can understand some japanese randomly

[tepid hound]

yeah exactly

[tepid hound]

wow that is really something tho. 👏

[civic reef]

thank you, i liked it, and yeah, my knowledge is not very wide, but thats at least something, i also like korean history because that country shared a ton of similarities with poland, especially during wars

oh and

i know some random tagalog words

but thats nothing serious

[tepid hound]

really? what is the similarities between Poland and Korean?

[tepid hound]

I hate my vocab, I don't know what is tagalog words.🥲

[civic reef]

tagalog is the language spoken in philippines

[tepid hound]

Even me didn't know that, you really are smart.

[white shard]

he has 5! IQ

[civic reef]

umm thats very controversial, i think i dont really want to get into details of that, but the general similarities are that korea, same as poland, was taken off the map for many years by japan, while poland by germany

[white shard]

Polish and Korean? Poland and Korea?

[civic reef]

the second one

am assuming from the context

[tepid hound]

Ahh I see. It really makes me want to study more about subject like this. Very interesting to know.

[tepid hound]

Sorry I think it's because I should sleep but I couldn't, it's 4.30am and I lose my focus.

[white shard]

It's understandable, when you're exhausted you can't think straight

the words come out jumbled

happened to me yesterday. I still feel bad, because instead of encouraging a person to study for their upcoming English exam, I told them to STOP preparing

Sleep deprivation is not a joke, I think you should go get some rest

[tepid hound]

yes you are right I agree

[fast pulsar]

What’s going on here

[tepid hound]

what really happen until you told then to stop preparing?

[tepid hound]

yes, I rarely be like this, it's external exception, problem with my rooms, my schedule will be screw up tomorrow.

[thorny steeple]

Hello

How's every one doing today?

[devout shale]

@tepid hound do you like sci-fi

@thorny steeple hello, I'm good wbu

[thorny steeple]

I could say I'm feeling good but that would be a lie, I'm feeling a bit anxious about many things in life, yet here i am still giving it my best.

[prisma cipher]

[devout shale]

I would say anxiety is part of life, and if not extreme it's a useful trait, because it help us be careful in dangerous situation and it lets us appreciate better important moment of our life. Life would be dull without a bit of anxiety imo, the best you can do is embrace it and not fight it. That's what I learned being anxious myself 😌

[lethal sparrow]

you're obviously not an american

[devout shale]

I'm not, why

[lethal sparrow]

lol they don't know 👮‍♂️

[devout shale]

What

🤔

[lethal sparrow]

its so funny how normal non-americans are lmao

ya'll aren't fucked up

it's nice and wholesome

[devout shale]

Lol thank you 😌

[lethal sparrow]

"oooo i got a little bit of anxiety but its ok there's not 2 million fellow citizens behind bars right now in the world's largest prison system cause i'm not american ooo"

yeah, more than north korea

[devout shale]

What are you talking about

[lethal sparrow]

i'm quoting non-americans

[devout shale]

I got it but why

[lethal sparrow]

america is a shithole and the problems in other countries seem trivial outside of active warzones

[thorny steeple]

Thanks for the kind words, it's not easy to find positive people these days, especially when there's so much negativity everywhere. I've tried to embrace this feeling countless times like you suggested but it doesn't help in any way whatsoever.

[lethal sparrow]

as long as you're non-american, it'll be fine

[thorny steeple]

is my way of communicating in english really that awful?

[lethal sparrow]

huh? no. america is a shithole. that's all you should know.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/8/italian-man-crushed-to-death-by-falling-cheese-wheels

this is like the worst problem that can happen to a non-american

ooooh my cheese wheels fell on me oh noooo

[devout shale]

Every nations has its problems, I'm sure there are places that are suffering more than America tbh

[lethal sparrow]

yeah, i said active warzones

behind that is the united states

i can't upload images here so... i can't show you evidence anyway

[devout shale]

I'm also working on it, it's not easy I know, feel free to dm me if you want to talk

[devout shale]

Yea but you can't blame who is in better conditions just because you are in worse ones.

[lethal sparrow]

go for a walk outside of your house because you don't need to own a car to survive and you won't get hit by one either because there are actual public spaces in your country

see? you're a non-american. so that makes sense to you.

it doesn't here. because america is a shithole.

[devout shale]

If you say so

[lethal sparrow]

i know so. you should too to avoid making the mistake of coming here

[devout shale]

That's not in my plans for now 👍

[lethal sparrow]

good. shit country, shit people.

https://youtu.be/rFJsFdgMkYE

this is a mere fragment of america's filth

[thorny steeple]

I'm not here to debate about personal opinions when it comes to politics, it actually makes me feel inundated mentally, thinking of such events for the man who was crushed to death by a falling cheese wheel, makes me realize there's a bigger problem than war out there on this vast planet.

[lethal sparrow]

most Italian way to go

italians get the cheese wheels
Muricans get shot in school

the circle of life. it's a beautiful thing

[thorny steeple]

I see your point of view it actually makes sense to some degree. However, I agree to disagree the circle of life is just an endless cycle which sadly none of us have power or control. The course of events that are necessary to unfold and maintain the balance between good and evil is beyond our control, which is rather unfortunate.

[trail depot]

Hello, does anyone live here in Canada?

[thorny steeple]

Hello, welcome! I'm certain there's many people from Canada on this server, best of luck finding someone from your country.

[trail depot]

I still haven't found anyone living in Canada. 😅

[thorny steeple]

What! how unfortunate, maybe try a different server related to English proficiency. Alternatively, you can just wait patiently and expect your missing Canadian partner, who's lost out there on this vast planet, to finally appear out of the blue.

[devout shale]

Are you a poet

[trail depot]

Ah, I just want to consult about some issues. For example, buying a sim card without a contract. I have a flight to Canada in a few weeks.

My peers are not helping me. I don't know why, but my peers don't like to be helpful.

[thorny steeple]

I'm not a poet. It actually takes me a few minutes to construct a well-organized and thoughtful reply. Hopefully, with time and patience, my response time will be shortened to just a few seconds. For now, I have to take my time and arrange my words one by one until the final message is created. (the embarrassment is part of the growth towards my future success)

[thorny steeple]

This paragraph you have written shows the time and dedication you have for being a poet and i think its just such a wonderful paragraph. It really inspires me to write paragraphs longer than what seems like the norm and i want to revolutionise paragraph writing because of this amazing paragraph.

[thorny steeple]

Check out this link, it might actually help you find the suitable data plan for your situation.https://canadalisthub.com/cheapest-mobile-plans-in-canada/

[raw stump]

in most countries you can just go to a phone store and get a month long SIM card plan
just go to the first phone store and ask for a non contract plan, they’ll have one

[royal stratus]

Hey;

Are you familiar with Steve Universe?

[raw stump]

watched some of it as a kid, and i know about it

[thorny steeple]

There's a reason for people to check receipts and to go support their local businesses.

The more lazy we become, the more primitive we become.

Hard work is part of being human.

[past fable]

hello

[warm finch]

wsp

I'm good, how are you?

[bold saddle]

what's up yall! I am NIKI MINAJ!

[thorny steeple]

Are you sure?

[bold saddle]

ye

[bold saddle]

Ur plain will crash I hope God!

[trail depot]

Thanks, but I don't trust blogs, they're usually after marketing, but I'll look into it anyway.

[trail depot]

Why?

[bold saddle]

Cause my dad died cause of plain crash a long time ago

[trail depot]

Since I don't know Canada, I thought it would be better to consult someone living in Canada.

[trail depot]

I feel sorry for you.

[lusty zenith]

A plain crash? I prefer salty, well-seasoned ones

[bold saddle]

I never understand why would this happen😭 even in the plain where my dad is...

[lusty zenith]

I see

[bold saddle]

Well...........I am

[royal stratus]

Quick question: Steven is his mum, since she and his father couldn’t conceive the humans do it, so why is he a male?

[thorny steeple]

STEM research.

[alpine plover]

Hello

[noble ivy]

@thorny steeple we here

[thorny steeple]

okay

if your that upset about me hating putin idk what to tell you though

[noble ivy]

I’m not upset at all, I don’t want people to support Ukraine and hate Russia at the same time

[thorny steeple]

putin doesn't give a fuck about the russian people, i don't understand why u support his actions when i benefits you none

[noble ivy]

That’s just dumb

[thorny steeple]

nobody would NEED to support ukraine if the invasion never happened

Protect your own. Honor your people. Defend your country.

That is the Way of Peace, and pacification to the world.

[thorny steeple]

exactly tristan

[noble ivy]

Invasion happened because people been dying in Ukraine for 8 years and Russian people too

[thorny steeple]

they started it in 2014 with krym

[noble ivy]

Zelensky paid no attention

[thorny steeple]

ayo wait didn't russia conquer this small country back then and nothin happened?

in 2010 or 14 idk

krym shouldn't even be russian or ukrainian IMO, it has its own culture and identity aside from sevastopol

[noble ivy]

What country

[thorny steeple]

russia=good Ukraine=good but the leaders=bad i havent kept up with the news 100% but thats what i think

[noble ivy]

Wasn’t it Greek tho a years ago

[thorny steeple]

it's not really the people or civilians it's who leads the countries

[noble ivy]

Decades ago

[thorny steeple]

yea pretty much sums up world geo politik

[thorny steeple]

once upon a time centuries ago he's lmao

yes*

[thorny steeple]

2014

[thorny steeple]

crimean peninsula

Ukraine.

in 2014

krym wasn't a country lol it was apart of ukraine and then russia stole it

[thorny steeple]

why is discord hiding ur messages showing ur spammer

[noble ivy]

Anywho even if Russia took it back it didn’t make anyonone start a war for that

[thorny steeple]

I have no idea.

Not the complete picture, so I appealed.

[thorny steeple]

no USA interests

Also, the socratic seminar idea was my idea.

Btw, I got it from World History, so now we're talking about it now.

Thumbs up for visibility if you like discussion, ❤️

[noble ivy]

Fun fact, there are wars going on in syria and other Arab countries and nobody gave a shit but when Ukraine shit happened EVERYBODY started to support it to let Russia down , Ukraine is just a tool

[thorny steeple]

Not me tho,

that's because media doesn't care about little countries in africa or the middle east

[thorny steeple]

nato has been wildly spreading its access to russia

ukraine was the first european war in a long time

[thorny steeple]

you have to look for it.

finland and what not

they even proposed to us, india

[thorny steeple]

indeed, and i already knew about the middle east and shit anyways lmao

[noble ivy]

What about serbia

[thorny steeple]

that's genocide hardly war

[thorny steeple]

Wait, wa? I'm 22, you knew about that alr?

actually they offered us NATO+, but we ofcourse, refused.

[thorny steeple]

of course

[noble ivy]

What about war inside Ukraine that was there for 8 years straight

[thorny steeple]

russian backed separatists 💀

do russians and ukrainians speak sem language

no

same type of language but different

ukrainian is more similar to polish than russian

[noble ivy]

Well they speak Ukrainian but most of em don’t even know their own language so they prefer Russian

[thorny steeple]

okok

[noble ivy]

Besides that we can easily understand Ukrainian and at the same time it’s fucking hard to speak it

[thorny steeple]

@noble ivy you keep spewing the propaganda of your own nation lmao and it's honestly more sad than upsetting. you will say i love zelenskyy and support the government all you want but YOU are the tool

your letting your own government control your own mind

Propaganda can be used for good or evil.

It depends really.

[noble ivy]

What propaganda bro
I have family in Ukraine lmao

[thorny steeple]

depends on the eye of the beholder

[thorny steeple]

Why yes, how'd you know?

[thorny steeple]

IT AINT BEAUTY MY BOY

[noble ivy]

How am I a tool bruh 💀

[thorny steeple]

u can say what propaganda all you want, propaganda is published by literally everyone, you just have to do your own research and actually find the facts yourself

Critical thinking, besides, everyone has their own POV.

That's why propaganda is so powerful.

[thorny steeple]

your keeping the russian war embarrassment alive and only fueling a quicker downfall of society

[thorny steeple]

youre caught in 4k

[noble ivy]

That’s fun how u live far away from this shit and discuss it like u been here and heard what BOTH people say

[thorny steeple]

[noble ivy]

War

[thorny steeple]

uk rus war

[thorny steeple]

as if i don't have close friends who have fled from ukraine 💀

[noble ivy]

Uk 💀

[thorny steeple]

ukr

[noble ivy]

U have friends from both countries?

[thorny steeple]

US, am immigrant from VN.

[thorny steeple]

yeah, one of my friends is both russian and ukrainian

[noble ivy]

Okay and what do they tell ya about the tool thing

[thorny steeple]

they want the war to stop and to go home, and they all hate putin

realize who the true enemy is, because it's not the people of ukraine brother😭

[noble ivy]

I mean that’s what we all want ain’t it

[thorny steeple]

then don't fuel the fire

[noble ivy]

Russia and Ukraine are not the enemies dawg

[thorny steeple]

putin and his bf in belarus are💀

[noble ivy]

The main enemy is who support the war and wants it to be continued

[noble ivy]

Zelensky is too then

[thorny steeple]

your entitled to that opinion idrc

[noble ivy]

Now we have 3 enemies to kill right

[thorny steeple]

sure buddy, i'm a bit over arguing over such a mundane topic

[noble ivy]

I’m shocked how u say things about the peace and that you don’t care about shit but at the same time u support this clown Zelensky and hate Putin

[thorny steeple]

just don't bring up russia vs ukraine in general or make it political

[noble ivy]

It’s better for you to just say I WANT PEACE I DONT CARE

[thorny steeple]

when did i ever say i support him

i've quite literally said multiple times, that i don't even like the government of ukraine, but that i hate the government of russia and belarus more

that's all there is to it

[noble ivy]

Because we get to the conclusion but then you start bringing it back

[noble ivy]

Well that’s your opinion right

You know what I hate?
I hate when people hate on Russians and support Ukraine and Zelensky wanting to destroy everything related to Russia
And I’ve seen a lot of people saying it (to my face too)

Every single country in Europe and the west hate Russia and Russian people FOR NOTHING , just because we are Russians @thorny steeple

[lethal sparrow]

nah, we both know its more complicated than that

[noble ivy]

It kinda is but it’s what most of em say

[lethal sparrow]

Russia and a handful of other nations don't want to live under the thumb of NATO and the USA. The USA is pure evil....annndd wants to destroy anybody who doesn't play their game

plus putin and whatnot has right-wing brainworms

[noble ivy]

U British right?

[lethal sparrow]

nope, murican

[thorny steeple]

w opinion

[noble ivy]

U American calling USA a pure evil

That’s interesting

[lethal sparrow]

rare few

i'm one of the good ones

[noble ivy]

I agree and I don’t want to support any side of this but when people start to hate MY SIDE (Russian side) and support Ukraine just because they heard how it’s hard for Ukrainians to live there it gets me mad

[thorny steeple]

no blind patriotism

indians get mad when an indian company sponsors another country's sports team

[noble ivy]

I don’t understand patriotism at all but if I was born in Switzerland I WOULD DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[noble ivy]

Where are you from

[thorny steeple]

bro i know of a switzerland chic

she has same sentiments

[thorny steeple]

japan 🥷

jk

shhh

@noble ivy you know of the KIA?

nvm

[noble ivy]

Kia the car?

[thorny steeple]

nah

abcdefg...

[tepid hound]

Yes I do, how about you?

[white shard]

we don't need infinitive, just use present simple

I am often available in #📚｜english-questions

[vernal crypt]

They aren't the only American citizen, who feels that way.

[devout shale]

Wonderful

[devout shale]

Me too yes

[thorny steeple]

Hi guys

[earnest egret]

uhm hi guys, i just join record

[carmine gorge]

Welcome to the hell

[thorny steeple]

🗿Thanks for the info.

Welcome.

[royal storm]

does someone want to chat with me to improve our english?

[thorny steeple]

Thank you for your precise explanation of logic and arguments

[blissful owl]

i would like

[royal storm]

what topic are we talking about?

[thorny steeple]

I haven't thoroughly understood that, I believe for a decent discussion you need more than one participant. I suggest you propose an easier topic, as this one hasn't received many people eager to join

[blissful owl]

about computer games if you want. Do you like some video games?

[royal storm]

yes

[blissful owl]

what genre of computer games do you like?

[royal storm]

mainly i play various kind of games but my favourite genres are the rts game and strategy with rounds

[thorny steeple]

Hey guys @blissful owl @royal storm can i join your chat for a while

[royal storm]

yes

[blissful owl]

Nice. And my favourite kind of games is shooter games. Why do like rts games and strategies? Сan you give an example of these games in which you play?

[thorny steeple]

So i used to play a lot of games during quarantine but now i sometimes play gta rp

[blissful owl]

of course

[royal storm]

can you correct me if i make some mistakes or something just like that when i write ?pls

[blissful owl]

Will try. True, I myself can make mistakes sometimes

[thorny steeple]

Whats rts games ? Can u explain shortly

[shut junco]

Real Time Strategy

[royal storm]

i understand you i played very much shooter games in the past like csgo but now i prefer more strategies games, although these games require very very much time to play in this period i play aoe idk if you know them basically they're a games set in various age of the story of the humanity for instance the first aoe is set in the bornze age to the gold age or something just like that and the second in the medieval and the third game in the Renaissance and the fourth again in the medieval

[royal storm]

real time strategy when you can move entire armies to fight with your enemies

[lavish finch]

Have you played old world?

[royal storm]

no idk what game it is

[royal storm]

no i'never played it

[shut junco]

The only RTS games I've played are the old classics like Age of Empires and Command and Conquer

Good times

[royal storm]

Age of empires games are masterpieces

[shut junco]

I agree. I spent so many hours playing that game after I came home from school

[royal storm]

what does games you like now?

[blissful owl]

i know. Actually i have never played strategies but i heard these games develop planning. So it is useful for the speed of thinking for example

[shut junco]

I also enjoyed their Age of Mythology games too. I'm still hoping they'll make a new one

[royal storm]

ohhhhh i'm waiting for the definitive version

[shut junco]

I don't really play video games as much anymore sadly. But I like open world single player games like Fallout

[shut junco]

That would be amazing. I'd play it

[thorny steeple]

good game

[royal storm]

maybe this year it come out

[shut junco]

[royal storm]

have you ever played rdr2

[shut junco]

Sure. Both games

I think RDR1 is getting a remake

[blissful owl]

oh you played Fallout? Awesome game

[royal storm]

it deserves it

[shut junco]

Huge Fallout fan. 1000+ hours in Fallout 3, and even more on Fallout 4. Looking forward to Starfield

[thorny steeple]

Sounds nice

[royal storm]

yeah i advise you to try someone of these

[royal storm]

what do you think about elden ring and generally the souls games?

[blissful owl]

Cool. I've only played in Fallout 4 but sometime I'll try other parts

[lavish finch]

What are you talking about? What have you changed it from?

[thorny steeple]

I ll do my research when i go home

[shut junco]

They are fun. Fun boss fights. I've played Elden Ring and Sekiro

[royal storm]

in my opinion are too difficult

[shut junco]

Nah, just takes practice. The challange is why these games are popular

[thorny steeple]

What do you think about reading English books, does it help to improve? I ve started reading a few books but i didnt see any improvement in my grammar

[royal storm]

you're right but games like dark souls for me is too but very too much difficult

[thorny steeple]

I really like games like call if duty modern warfare

[royal storm]

once i've spent more than 3 hours to beat a bossfight

[shut junco]

I've seen people speedrunning those games and it's just crazy how fast they beat bosses

They know exactly what the boss will do

[royal storm]

yes after more times you understand the body mooving of the boss and you will be able to beat it

[royal storm]

you have never played tw games?

[thorny steeple]

Guys what do you think about only up, i didn’t play it but i would like to try it some time

[shut junco]

No, I don't know what TW is

[royal storm]

only up= remake of getting over it

[royal storm]

total war games

[shut junco]

Oh, then no, I haven't

[royal storm]

they're the most difficult games only because it's really really difficult understand how to play

all the mechanincs of the games

[blissful owl]

I've only seen speedruns, but I don't think I'm going to try it myself. You must have iron patience to play this game.

[thorny steeple]

Hahaha thats true

[royal storm]

one game can take 200 hrs or more

[shut junco]

Wow. I'd rather play Fallout.

[royal storm]

can you explain me something about fallout games

[royal storm]

idk very much about these games

[shut junco]

Just an open world post-apocalyptic game. Fallout 3 had a karma system where your actions influenced the game. Fallout 4 got rid of it for some reason, but maybe they'll bring it back in future Fallout games.

If you've played Skyrim then its very similar

[royal storm]

what do you have to do in these games?

[royal storm]

i know it but i've never played it

[shut junco]

You survive the post apocalyptic wasteland. Each game has its own story that you can follow. In fallout 3 you search for your missing dad for example.

[thorny steeple]

This game i bought by accident when i was young for playstation i didnt like it

[shut junco]

[blissful owl]

Has anyone ever played in Borderlands?

[royal storm]

it seems something like far cry 5

[shut junco]

I've played Borderlands 1, 2, and 3

[royal storm]

i've a question for you

[lavish finch]

Did you avoid my question on purpose?

[shut junco]

Ok, ask

[royal storm]

if these games have them own story how have you done to play one of them 1000hrs

[shut junco]

It's open world. There is much more than just the story

[blissful owl]

My respect. And what do you think about it?

[lavish finch]

Sounds like you’re at a crossroads.

[shut junco]

Fun games. I've played them with my brother.

[thorny steeple]

What do u mean crossroads

[lavish finch]

I didn’t use the word evade I said avoid.

I also don’t believe that you don’t know the word evade.

(leaving)

[royal storm]

i absolutely must try them

[ivory vale]

Hi @thorny steeple , I think James wanted to know what your previous nickname has been.
Was your nickname"sufficient" before you chose "eisan"?

I see. Thanks for letting me know.

I haven't caught up with all the messages here...

[royal storm]

what is the meaning of caught up?

[ornate siren]

May I join the conversation?

[ivory vale]

Hi Nocturnal

[royal storm]

games conversation?

[ornate siren]

Whatever you like.

[ornate siren]

Here, it means "read".

[ivory vale]

If I have caught up on the messages in this channel, I have read all new messages since I have last been here.

Might never happen.

[royal storm]

yes but i'm a little bit slow to write and can you correct me if i make some mistakes please i want to learn very well English

[ornate siren]

I'll help you. We all will.

[royal storm]

@ornate siren @ivory vale thanks

[ornate siren]

No problem.

[royal storm]

idk what is an argument that you know very well

[ornate siren]

Sorry?

[royal storm]

i can speak about games-football-

[ornate siren]

*argument

[royal storm]

thanks

so can we speak about games?

[ornate siren]

EPL?

[royal storm]

what is it?

[royal storm]

oh premier league

?

[ornate siren]

You meant videogames?

[royal storm]

yes

go for premier league

what is your favourite team?

[ivory vale]

I have never played video game football

[ornate siren]

Tottenham

[ivory vale]

And I have no idea what teams there are

[royal storm]

oh not bad my fav team is barcellona

[royal storm]

usually there are teams that there are in real life

[ivory vale]

I also don't watch soccer games

[royal storm]

oh

then i understand you basically there are some leagus or championships and every one of them contains various team roughly 20

[ornate siren]

What do you watch?

[ivory vale]

Almost nothing

[royal storm]

what do you like to do?

[torpid lance]

hii

[ivory vale]

Chatting here is nice

[royal storm]

do you like games?

[ivory vale]

I play some kids games with my son

[royal storm]

i understand

[royal storm]

hi

[ivory vale]

Hi

[torpid lance]

well can i join the conv btw

[ivory vale]

Can you?

[royal storm]

can you explain me what does btw mean

[torpid lance]

*between

[royal storm]

thanks yes of course

[torpid lance]

soo wht's going on so far

[royal storm]

we are speaking about some topics like games and football

[torpid lance]

ahh ic

seems like i have missed alot

[thorny steeple]

Don't worry, you are very welcome to join any time!

[torpid lance]

thz

[royal storm]

can someone explain to me the difference between too , also and aswell?

[ivory vale]

I was thinking of this cartoon.

[royal storm]

ahahahhaha

[devout shale]

I think you use 'too' at the end of the phrase, 'also' at the beginning after subject, and 'aswell' is like 'too' but more formally. Any native speaker correct me if I'm not right

[royal storm]

thanks a lot but basically are they the same thing?

[devout shale]

Yes

[ivory vale]

They can have the same meaning.

[royal storm]

also after subject and before verb ?

[devout shale]

Yes

[royal storm]

thanks

[thorny steeple]

As well is also written separately, I believe

[royal storm]

so which must i use

[thorny steeple]

It depends on the situation

[royal storm]

aswell and as well have different meanings?

[ivory vale]

There's no aswell to my understanding.

[thorny steeple]

As well is the only grammatically correct phrase

[thorny steeple]

Yes

[royal storm]

@thorny steeple @ivory vale thanks i used aswell all together

[thorny steeple]

Although I do believe it could be used by poets (you shouldn't use it in formal language or anywhere, really), however, it'd have another meaning

[thorny steeple]

No problem!

[ivory vale]

You have often used aswell instead of as well?

[royal storm]

yes

[ivory vale]

Thank you for helping me understand.

It's been fun chatting with you all.

Bye

[royal storm]

bye

[static pivot]

@lavish finch done

[thorny steeple]

Good luck!

@ivory vale By the way, is your profile picture of a girl from folk fairy tales?

[torpid lance]

well can ik where r u guys from and could we guys intro ourselves so we would kn each more in person

[thorny steeple]

agree

[torpid lance]

okay go ahead so

[thorny steeple]

u go ahead

[torpid lance]

mee

[rugged cove]

Yo bro what's up

[rugged cove]

Hey

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

Aldol condensation

[ornate siren]

Re-enacting Hastings, are we?

Well, GPT forgot Harold's scheming brother Tosti, and the kid Edgar.

The Conqueror himself has become history anyway.

You want a philosophical format of some organic chemical reactions?

That's organic.

I gotta sleep now, so goodbye.

And Philosophy, the application of the sciences to truth.

Adieu.

[thorny steeple]

Just Physics*. Chemistry is applied Physics

How so?

As there is everywhere? Every science is, at some rate, explained by Physics

It depends on your viewpoint

What are the laws of physics? Are they something we interpret now, confined into rules, or is it the whole of processes?

I'm talking about all of physics, explained by certain rules

Even Einstein's special theory of relativity could be wrong in specific scenarios

Whatever do you mean?

With whom?

Do you mean quantum mechanics by her?

"I don't agree with her, I find her stupid."

Who's she?

I know what you mean, but sure

You should say 'it' then. Quantum mechanics doesn't have a gender

Modern Physics can't even solve a three body problem in that sense, it's then futile to talk about quantum mechanics

It's alright

Photons are not just waves. They are particles when you take one at a specific time

Oh, I will, believe me. I'd love to study quantum mechanics one day

Fix what?

There was no typo, I believe

Because there wasn't?

Why should a photon move at an infinite speed?

You didn't misspell anything

[thorny steeple]

@lusty dagger

Well, it has no rest mass, yes. But it still has energy and momentum

Perhaps. Would you explain it to me?

[valid raven]

hey i am typing here and I am a real real real and the most serious person ||no i am not lmao||, but I don't like serious convos so that channel is not for me thanks try to have fun in a serious way guyss :>

[thorny steeple]

[thorny steeple]

What am I avoiding when I'm procrastinating? Why? #SelfReflection

[full river]

Listening 🙃

[thorny steeple]

I am trying to listen to it too. 😹

[full river]

Listen carefully, then tell me what you heard 😶

[thorny steeple]

I am procrastinating a very important task for the whole day, literally trapped in Discord. It's not Discord fault, of course, it's mine and aaaaaaa ... I'm self reflecting here. What I am trying to avoid?

A procrastination is not just procrastination. We never skip the things that we really want to do, right? What do you think of this?

[civic reef]

"the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"

[thorny steeple]

That's why I am on music the whole day. 😹

[full river]

I agree..

There are so many thing on my list that I consider important but I am procrastinating for the same reason

Because in fact they are not something that I want to do

[thorny steeple]

And now I'm trying to switch the conversation to something else random, just because I'm on the right way to discover the reason of my procrastination with you guys. 😹

[full river]

Getting even more interesting..

[thorny steeple]

But why we don't want to do them or why we feel this urge to do them if we don't really want to do them, right?

[civic reef]

It is terrifying when you realize that the enemy you were fighting against was all the time yourself

[thorny steeple]

It always is. ALWAYS.

The only thing we control is ourselves.

[full river]

Because we have a belief that they are the right thing to do. That they are good for us, for our future probably

[thorny steeple]

I feel like I am crazy because I know this whole thing and I still get trapped in this.

[thorny steeple]

And yet somehow unconsciously we hold another contrary belief, right.
Telling that this is not that good for us, and we are going to "die".

[civic reef]

Maybe there are two moon emoji stars emoji Angellines, and the second, subconscious moon emoji stars emoji Angelline is deceiving the primary Angelline. That would be outrageous

[full river]

Knowing is not enough 😶

[thorny steeple]

What I mean by die: everything we see as a risk, in the root, is the fear of death.

And here I am intellectualizing the thing just as another defense mechanism to avoid the main reflection. 😹

And then I can lead you all to another topic and avoid what I'm supposed to reflect.

[thorny steeple]

WHAT

[full river]

Ok. Be serious and stick to the topic 🧐

[thorny steeple]

That's where the difference lives: embodiment.

[thorny steeple]

Thank you. 🥺

Ok let me go talk with Angelline.

Thank you @full river 😹

Only you has courage to hear my endless talks.

[civic reef]

I said maybe. In truth, there might be even more Angellines, and the deeper you descend into one of them, the more Angellines appear out of nowhere, chasing you in a tunnel without any escape

[full river]

Ohh I'm enjoying it ✨

[thorny steeple]

"No, no, no, no, no"
— Angelline, 2023

[full river]

I remembered that several times today

[thorny steeple]

It's poetic and I can feel the truth in your words. 😹

[thorny steeple]

I'll not say it's a brazilian way to say it, it's an Angelline way to say it. 😹

[civic reef]

No, that was just my interpretation of schizophrenia

[thorny steeple]

😭

[civic reef]

But I am glad you liked it

[full river]

Now carry on with your psychological analysis, otherwise I'm going to ruin all the work with my simple reasoning 🙃

[thorny steeple]

No, I better go to my privat mind. 😹

[civic reef]

Too complicated. I am going to meow. This speaks the truth and awakens the inner spirits within every being.

[thorny steeple]

I wish I could say my privat jet, but...

Do you really want to discuss this @full river ?
Or you're just trying to help me?

[full river]

It is something I'm struggling with. Just got interested to hear your opinion about possible underlying reasons

[thorny steeple]

Great! I was suspicious about this.

I think we are avoidant when we're working in something that will bring huge transformations in our lives. It's like a building and then we will have to remove a specific structure that can lead the whole building to destruction. Sometimes to change a belief, a system of them, can break our whole world.

And this is like: the end to start another life, completelly.

For some it can be scary as hell, to others, a brand new life.

[full river]

What is complicated and what speaks the truth?

[thorny steeple]

We are afraid of changes. Not the small ones, but the bigger ones.

[full river]

Big changes can seem scary..

[thorny steeple]

We fear the unknown.

We don't have enough informations in our minds to deal with it.

It's like a kid going to school for the first time.

[civic reef]

Truth speaks for itself. For example, if I do a triple backflip with a jet-like landing on my head and later arching my back to the point when I break it, then the CRACK will be the truth, because the crack is just trying to tell me am an absolute moron and I should have not moved out from my bed that day

[thorny steeple]

What analogy was that?

[civic reef]

well i mean there was no analogy

it was just me eating cereal and writing random thing while munching on it

[full river]

I dont know. I'm thinking of something that I consider as rather useful for me and I have some idea about possible consequences if I do so which are rather good. And I'm still procrastinating.

[thorny steeple]

This is it! This specific thing will potentially bring a huge transformation to your life.
Sometimes we forget that big things starts small. Like all of us, who were once "two"!

[full river]

So you say it is all about changes

[thorny steeple]

Yes.

For the good or the bad.

And the uncertainty makes us uncomfortable.

[full river]

I thought it was about laziness, lack of discipline and not enjoying the work as a whole. Also possibility of chronic exhaustion

[thorny steeple]

Depending on the case, it can be. But tell me something, if I told you that you win idk... (your biggest material desire, like a car, a house, or a cake, idk, whatever, the thing that you want the most in your life) right now, would you be lazy to go there take it?

And about not enjoyment, if we are doing something we love, we can have some parts of it that we dislike (like me yesterday uploading videos at midnight), but you will still do it, regardless. And can even learn to enjoy it!

The thing of chronic exhaustion looks like a medical issue for me, so I'll not opinate.

[full river]

Oh no. I would strive for it 🙃

[thorny steeple]

That's it.

Sometimes we are trapped with that "2 of sword" thing that is:

1. the initial energy flow to do something. but...
2. the contrary energy that prevents us of doing it.

And then one cancels other, like math.

1 -1 = 0.

(This has nothing to do with math, just to mention).

[full river]

Was ot that easy 🙃

[thorny steeple]

Not easy. We have to solve the issue which is holding us back to flow it once for all.

Or we give up on the will transforming it into something else.

There are things we only understand in the "right time".

[full river]

By the "right time" you're relating it to destiny I guess

[thorny steeple]

No, because in fact, there's no right time to understand something.
But when you're facing a situation that requires this understandment... this hit different.

It's like a love song for someone who's in love and the other who's not.

Both can enjoy the love song, but for who this will be more meaningful?

[thorny steeple]

You just made laziness a maths equation

[full river]

Sounds very romantic 🙃

In my case I see three options. First to love the work, the second to feel the need to do it which would be good motivation as well, and the third to force myself to be more disciplined and to do the work anyway, without enjoying it or feeling the urge.

[thorny steeple]

Good! Depending of what it is, we don't have choices others than do it, right.

(I'm finishing my task, thanks for reading my reflections, @full river . It's really life changing). 🥰

[full river]

Looks like there are choices. And we're ought to choose our own path.

[thorny steeple]

I feel like we unconsciously underestimate simple little things that happens and in the future, they represent bigger transformations in our lives. This is what I was feeling too. 🤔

[full river]

Always a pleasure 💜

[thorny steeple]

Yes, I definitelly agree that we always have a choice. I was refering more speficially to things that the choice of giving up on them would bring more unpleasant outcomes than just doing them. Using something very usual to exemplify: wash the dishes, LOL!

[full river]

Yes. Consequences would be unpleasant for sure 😄

[thorny steeple]

In the end we are living more through basic simple life happenings than HUGE THINGS that changes our lifes all the time, lol! Thats why habbits matters so much.

[full river]

Habbits..

[thorny steeple]

It's habit?

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-paper-cups-bunny-rabbits-rabbits-cute-animals-gif-17626097

rabit, LOL

[noble ivy]

Sup
Topic?

[full river]

Oh I went to my own habits and it seems to be soemthing to think about as well

But better to leave it for some other time 🙃

[thorny steeple]

Sure, I have to go too!

[full river]

Nice talking with you. Bye 💜

[lethal sparrow]

obamna

[lavish finch]

Thank you 🍏

I am standing in line to eat at a sushi restaurant.

There are two people standing behind me.

It’s obvious that they are on a first date.

And they won’t stop talking.

Each of them trying to impress the other.

[lethal sparrow]

good for them. don't go out in public if you don't want to deal with normies. your fault.

[civic reef]

Sushi is nice

[thorny steeple]

Normal people on first dates:
Me: Ok, so here are the list of things you should know to give up on me.

[lavish finch]

This channel has been hopping lately

I was busy with work all day

But the conversations seemed to remain serious

and interesting

[thorny steeple]

Hello!

[lavish finch]

Hi Angelline

[thorny steeple]

I finished dinner now, how was in the restaurant?

[lavish finch]

Waiting for my sushi

[thorny steeple]

Are you still waiting?

[lavish finch]

it’s crowded

1/2 price wednesdays

[thorny steeple]

Any reflections from your time waiting?

[lavish finch]

I ran into my sensei

aikido sensei

[thorny steeple]

The art of defense without directly attack?

https://tenor.com/view/ready-neo-keanu-reeves-the-matrix-lets-do-this-gif-22197105

[lavish finch]

yes

[thorny steeple]

Cool!

[raw stump]

just a question because I think you work as an English teacher
are you an ESL teacher or english literature teacher

[lavish finch]

ESL

But I use literature with intermediate and advanced students

I would like to start an Adventures of Sherlock Holmes class here.

[raw stump]

nice, my mom used to be an ESL teacher

[thorny steeple]

which books do you suggest for an advanced student?

[lavish finch]

Whatever interests you

[thorny steeple]

I have a copy of Atomic Habits in english

[lavish finch]

Build a library

[raw stump]

80 days around the world

my mom read that to learn English

[lavish finch]

Have you read A Scandal In Bohemia, Sherlock Holmes?

It’s a short story. 30 pages

[raw stump]

nah, id assume sherlock holmes would probably be the best literature for learners because of how known it is to the english world

[lavish finch]

It’s good. Well written, fun, well loved, well known.

[thorny steeple]

I don't know if you guys know, but I have a vast library that I share with my dad.

I don't care about reading every book, but I do care about learning and practicing from high-quality books. Books can be really dense sometimes especially if they're old.

I've read a lot and wrote a lot of essays, but increasing literacy means engagement. Just like how technology engages people, so should the books we read.

[sharp zinc]

"The ...... Woman."

[thorny steeple]

If someone there likes science fiction, read Burning Chrome by William Gibson.

I don't recommend Neuromancer for beginners, but if someone wants to challenge themselves in a more in depth vocabulary and story (and wants to know where this whole Cyberpunk thing we know today came from) this is it. This book inspired Matrix as well. It's a badass story! 🥰

(And if you read, you can discuss it with me, because it's one of my fav books).

[sharp zinc]

Ange, let's admit it.. it's the cover as well 😛

[thorny steeple]

What??

[ornate siren]

Holmes's one dramatic failure, because of a woman.

[thorny steeple]

You see... the partners we choose: can influentiate the reason of our rise or falls. 😹

[toxic plover]

Hello guys what are you talking about (jk)

[ornate siren]

And hello, everyone.

[sharp zinc]

been answered 😛

Hello "me in and out"

[thorny steeple]

Hi, I'll be serious. I don't know how to write to people.

Like, letters, in Vietnamese.

[toxic plover]

You just use your fingers to type

[thorny steeple]

They're high-demanding b/c like...
They're old.

[thorny steeple]

I'm aware of the features.

Because I tried to use it.

I tried to learn Vietnamese the old way and to be fair. It didn't really work. I can explain why for anyone who wants to know why it didn't work for me.

My fluency was best as a kid.

Any experts?

[raw stump]

you can’t use vietnamese characters?

in texting?

[thorny steeple]

I can practice, but the problem is writing by hand with pencil or pen.

[raw stump]

oh i thought you meant in typing

[thorny steeple]

Nah, I think it'd be nice to present in Vietnamese.

I can read and speak Vietnamese, but my fluency and speed is lacking.

[raw stump]

basic ass answer but I really do think that stuff like speed is just increased by practice

[thorny steeple]

Fair enough. Btw what ethnicity are you?

[raw stump]

most people appreciate the effort anyways

[raw stump]

albanian-greek

[thorny steeple]

That's cool. You know I presented in English, but I couldn't introduce in Vietnamese. It was hard because I have a monotone voice. Inflection is hard.

[ornate siren]

And what ethnicity are YOU of?

[raw stump]

bruh

[thorny steeple]

Vietnamese ofc.

Vietnamese first; American second. ❤️

I never forget my roots.

[raw stump]

chad

[ornate siren]

And how so?

[thorny steeple]

Because food, parties, and karaoke is my go-to.

You ever see Americans do stuff that extravagent?

[raw stump]

yea like my albanian is pretty bad but most people (especially if you’re older) will appreciate the gesture of respecting roots and actively trying
at least my experience with albanian family

[ornate siren]

Many a time.

[thorny steeple]

There's solidarity in family.
But also family in solidarity.
Makes everyone happy.

[thorny steeple]

Yup,

[raw stump]

unrelated but

i spent $400 dollars on chinese visas when I could have just used an albanian passport

whoops!

[thorny steeple]

Uh...

Can't help you there dude.

[raw stump]

damn I was expecting someone to steal the money back

[thorny steeple]

What do you think I am, Red Robin?

[ornate siren]

Robin Hood?

[raw stump]

twas a joke friend

[thorny steeple]

Bro, that's a restaurant chain. And yea, I know Robin Hood.

I have him held hostage.

[ornate siren]

You can take Robin out the Hood but you can't take the Hood out of Robin.