#🧠|serious-chat

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cloud void
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I didn't see the function here

thorny steeple
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Ya hallo enya

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I love you

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I'm kidding

cloud void
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🫔

lusty zenith
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I don't think you can

lavish finch
cloud void
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TY! i will have a try later.šŸ™†ā€ā™€ļø

cloud void
lavish finch
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I don’t think they are. Try sending me one.

glad lake
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@lavish finch Do you know how many irregular verbs there are in English ?

lavish finch
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200

glad lake
lavish finch
glad lake
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thanks you

cunning vale
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I am the most serious person.

thorny steeple
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Guys, I'm going to participate in QCEC 2023. As you can see, the deadline in 30th June and I have so little time left. And that's why I want the help of you guys. I mean, can I get some proper guidelines here please?

shut junco
thorny steeple
inland dawn
inland dawn
shut junco
lusty zenith
ripe quest
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i do

slate mountain
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What do you think about people who think that they will trust another person at 100% if he or she marry them?

slate mountain
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should we give them oscar?

lavish finch
slate mountain
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or some kind of social stereotype

lavish finch
blazing acorn
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oh wow it’s so serious there

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what si you talk about ?

valid fog
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about serious topics ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

static pivot
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Tell us about yourself

blazing acorn
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me ?

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i’m so bad in english that’s why i’m here btw

lusty zenith
valid fog
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I'm going to Croatia next month. Should I learn some words in croatian or more then "thank you" and "excuse me" or english will be good enough ?

small turret
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Hi

slim fjord
small turret
slim fjord
lavish finch
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seriousness intensifies

small turret
slim fjord
small turret
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Because of my language?

slim fjord
small turret
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Ok

static pivot
blazing acorn
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bc i’m here for speak instead of work my baccalaureate

slate mountain
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@lusty zenith would you like to go in vc? you have created an impression of a pretty comfy person

lusty zenith
slate mountain
lusty zenith
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but my written English is definitely better than my spoken

slate mountain
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but anyway if you feel uncomfortable i won't insist

lusty zenith
slate mountain
static pivot
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Guys

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I need songs suggestions

dense sphinx
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what kind of music do you listen to

limpid gulch
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Hiiiiii
I need helpp guys
What is the difference between "I" and "I am"?
thanks in advance for your help

static pivot
slim fjord
dense sphinx
# static pivot Rock

hotel california - eagles, one headlight - the walflowers, mary janes last dance - tom petty and the heart breakers

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those are all older songs let me see if i can find news ones

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i cant find any but there is also "what its like" and "white trash beautiful" both by everlast

static pivot
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I like old songs

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Meaningful

calm hamlet
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Hi

slim fjord
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I'm from megawati

calm hamlet
slim fjord
calm hamlet
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No

calm hamlet
slim fjord
calm hamlet
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No, I mean why aren't you sleeping yet

slim fjord
lavish finch
# static pivot I like old songs

How is that possible. When I shared my Spotify playlist with you, you said you think we have very different taste in music. All my songs, my favorite songs are old and meaningful.

static pivot
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I love songs like father and son

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But I've been listening to rock n roll mostly

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My style is more like AC/DC, over the horizen

lavish finch
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Cat Stevens?

static pivot
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Yes

lavish finch
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He’s one of my favorite all-time musicians.

static pivot
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Father and son is very meaningful one

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You listen to rap?

lavish finch
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I don’t know how familiar you are with his other music but there are so many more extraordinary ones.

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If you don’t know about it you might like the film Harold and Maude, which he did the soundtrack for.

static pivot
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Im going to listen it

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Lets see

lavish finch
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Talk about old and meaningful. I have a prediction it’s going to blow you away.

static pivot
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Im liking this

lavish finch
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🧠

static pivot
final skiff
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hi people

slim fjord
lavish finch
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Welcome

short hawk
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So you must be serious. Don't tell a lie in the holy channel.

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You said you were from China. And 35 yo....

crisp smelt
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Hi everyone

muted ivy
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hi

rugged rivet
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Hiii

static pivot
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Good morning everyone

silent needle
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Heliou~

sudden tinsel
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hi

tawny hinge
acoustic violet
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Hellooo !!!

lavish finch
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Good morning

lusty zenith
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Mornings cannot be good or bad. It is up to the person to decide if they feel happy or sad when they awake in the morning botcat

||Just joking of course||

viral glen
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it is a kind of understanding of morning from the perspective of mind

slate mountain
static pivot
small turret
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Hi

rotund cosmos
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Hello everyone

eternal tundra
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Hello

crisp pewter
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i am serious

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lets chat

inland dawn
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@static pivot

static pivot
thorny steeple
floral tree
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*stoicismchad *

crisp pewter
static pivot
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Hello

urban swift
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Why this channel not on my channel list :/
I mean are there more like this one?

shy root
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Hii

short hawk
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hi

static pivot
static pivot
shy root
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no no

static pivot
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Oh

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Lucky you

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You seem new to discord

short hawk
pearl rain
short hawk
pearl rain
shy root
static pivot
shy root
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Just joined lately

static pivot
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Hanee can you be my friend?

static pivot
short hawk
short hawk
static pivot
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Looks confused

shy root
static pivot
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Why?

pearl rain
static pivot
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Do you want to be friends with a normal member like me?

pearl rain
short hawk
static pivot
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Look how serious I sound

pearl rain
static pivot
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@pearl rain ill beat your bf

pearl rain
pearl rain
pearl rain
shy root
short hawk
shy root
shy root
pearl rain
static pivot
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Wait. We are not talking about dating

short hawk
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Any suggestions about serious laughing emoji?

zinc ridge
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Bery sirious talk

shy root
static pivot
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So you asked me if i was admin, is that means that you are ready to cheated on your husband with admin?

pearl rain
short hawk
pearl rain
static pivot
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zinc ridge
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Yeah he is looking for wife not gf

shy root
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No, just getting used in discord u know

pearl rain
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So halal.

zinc ridge
static pivot
static pivot
pearl rain
pearl rain
shy root
shy root
final skiff
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wassup people

short hawk
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Why all serious messages make me laugh?

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Am I mad?

final skiff
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deep topics

thorny steeple
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Script a dialogue between two people, with contrasting viewpoints, on an issue that divides generations.

I kinda don't get the question, can anyone please explain this to me?

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I mean, what should I actually write in this dialogue?

thorny steeple
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i'm gonna write

orchid mist
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Hey everybody

zinc ridge
orchid mist
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is this sentence grammatically correct " There is the cold wind blows from south". ?

mint epoch
zinc ridge
slim fjord
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Watching animes not cartoons

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@zinc ridge

thorny steeple
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Hey guys, in a two person dialogue, can i insert a third person viewpint?
like:
A- Lets go over that place.
B-Sure!
[And they started moving in a very slow speed]
A- [indicating a satellite panel with his finger] See that?

btw the question for the dialogue is, "Script a dialogue between two people, with contrasting viewpoints, on an issue that divides generations."
[its a question from Queens Commonwealth Essay Competition 2023]

lusty zenith
slim fjord
inland dawn
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@static pivot

jagged seal
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Hey I hope u have a good day/night , suggest me some good ways for improving speaking

civic reef
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apps like Podbean, which is free, and Spotify which is kinda paid, even google podcasts if you use apps from google, offer a ton of hours of podcasts on various topics, i just replaced all kinds of radios/any audio broadcasts in my native language with english ones

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without approaches like this I think I would have not developed any speaking at all, I would just not be able to form a sentence properly and even distinguish between "this sounds correct" and "okay this one sounds odd"

slim fjord
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This is so helpful thanks @civic reef

civic reef
# civic reef without approaches like this I think I would have not developed any speaking at ...

plus i guess the simple advice would be to just even try, like speaking, even to yourself, because then you get used to it, on random topics, i honestly regret that i have not been doing this for too long yet, i mostly just analysed a ton of native content and that was all I was doing, but if i was actually attempting to speak way more frequently, then maybe i would develop it further and gain preciousn confidence

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*precious, the -n was a missclick, of course

slim fjord
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@civic reef no problem

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Me learn English here to

static pivot
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Sup

thorny steeple
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Hey

dense sphinx
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hi bowtie

thorny steeple
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Hello

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This is going to be confusing! haha

dense sphinx
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hello another bowtie

thorny steeple
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I know right

dense sphinx
thorny steeple
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Always look for the emoji then you know I am the original Bow Tie bonbonbowtie

dense sphinx
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okay thank you blossom

thorny steeple
thorny steeple
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oh 2 šŸŽ€šŸ„²

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I'm confused too

thorny steeple
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@thorny steeple

static pivot
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@thorny steeple

static pivot
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
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it's serious chat

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You can be serious don't worry

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Its very easy to be serious

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actually i'm usually serious kekk

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Are you Indonesian?

supple harbor
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Bruh

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I wanna go into Denmark or Norway or Sweden or Netherlands and make a shack and Finnaly snap out of reality

lusty zenith
supple harbor
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Yup

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It's great until you are a kid lol

lusty zenith
supple harbor
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Comparable to south Africa

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With the difference that you are treated nice in prison and will be payed bcz of the stress you got from being in prison and couldn't make money from your job

lusty zenith
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Still creepy though

supple harbor
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Oh, it's per capita

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That means the chance a 9yo will be raped is same as South Africa

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I think they should just deport the rapers to be held in US prisons

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A humanBeing who actually does such thing can't be treated or called a human anymore

lusty zenith
supple harbor
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Killing a soul is worse than killing a body tbh

toxic grotto
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I have a question for those who want to chat.
How do different philosophical frameworks like existentialism or postmodernism influence artistic movements and scientific research?

inland dawn
# toxic grotto I have a question for those who want to chat. How do different philosophical fra...

i dont think that such thoughts will affect scientific research. if you were talking about religion and not an idea, i would say yes, it definitely affects. as i thought a Muslim would not do research on evolution. however, philosophical views dont have sharp boundaries and do not affect scientific research (this is my own opinion). but art is very different. everything affects art. even a new law published in that artist's country affects artist.

toxic grotto
# inland dawn i dont think that such thoughts will affect scientific research. if you were tal...

While it is true that scientific research is primarily driven by empirical evidence and methodological rigor, philosophical frameworks like existentialism and postmodernism can still have indirect influences on scientific inquiry. These philosophical perspectives shape our understanding of the world, human existence, and the nature of knowledge itself, which can, in turn, influence the questions we ask and the interpretations we make in scientific research.

Existentialism, for example, emphasizes the individual's experience of existence, freedom, and the search for meaning in a seemingly absurd world. This philosophical framework can inspire scientists to investigate the subjective aspects of human experience, such as consciousness, emotions, or the impact of existential crises on mental health. It may also encourage scientists to explore interdisciplinary approaches, recognizing the interconnectedness of various scientific fields and their implications for human existence.

On the other hand, postmodernism challenges grand narratives and encourages critical examination of power structures, language, and social constructs. While it may not directly impact scientific methodologies, postmodernism can influence scientific research by highlighting the social and cultural contexts in which knowledge is produced. Scientists may become more aware of their own biases, the influence of cultural factors on research outcomes, and the ethical considerations surrounding their work. This critical reflection can lead to more nuanced and socially conscious approaches to scientific inquiry

thorny steeple
thorny steeple
slim fjord
toxic grotto
# thorny steeple Very much, the philosophical frameworks you mentioned promote progressive thinki...

Throughout history, numerous examples demonstrate the impact of philosophical ideas on scientific and artistic advancements. For instance, the Enlightenment period's emphasis on reason and empiricism influenced the development of the scientific method, fostering a more systematic approach to inquiry.

Moreover, philosophical ideas have often challenged established beliefs and opened up new avenues of exploration. For example, the theory of relativity in physics, proposed by Albert Einstein, was influenced by philosophical concepts such as the relativity of space and time. This demonstrates the interconnectedness between philosophy and scientific progress.

In the realm of art, philosophical movements have played a significant role in shaping artistic expressions. The influence of existentialism can be seen in the works of artists like Frida Kahlo and Edvard Munch, who delved into themes of existential angst and the human condition. Postmodernism, with its deconstruction of traditional norms, has influenced art movements like pop art and conceptual art, challenging conventional notions of artistic expression.

By acknowledging the historical evidence and recognizing the ways in which philosophical frameworks have influenced scientific research and artistic movements, we can appreciate the profound impact that philosophical ideas can have on shaping our understanding of the world and fostering creativity and scientific exploration

lavish finch
# toxic grotto I have a question for those who want to chat. How do different philosophical fra...

ā€œPhilosophy, as I shall understand the word, is something intermediate between theology and science. Like theology, it consists of speculations on matters as to which definite knowledge has, so far, been unascertainable; but like science, it appeals to human reason rather than to authority, whether that of tradition or that of revelation.

All definite knowledge – so I should contend – belongs to science; all dogmas as to what surpasses definite knowledge belongs to theology. But between theology and science there is a No Man’s Land, exposed to attack from both sides, and this No Man’s Land is philosophy. Almost all the questions of most interest to speculative minds are such as science cannot answer, and the confident answers of theologians no longer seem so convincing as they did in former centuries.ā€
― Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy

toxic grotto
# lavish finch ā€œPhilosophy, as I shall understand the word, is something intermediate between t...

Overall, Russell's perspective on the role of philosophy highlights its commitment to reason, its exploration of unanswerable questions, and its critical examination of traditional beliefs. While other philosophers may hold alternative views, Russell's ideas offer a framework for engaging in intellectual inquiry and promoting the importance of critical thinking and rational analysis in the realm of philosophy.

lavish finch
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Maybe using Chatgpt.

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Right?

toxic grotto
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No. I am passionate about philosophy.

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I'm mostly curious about the philosophy of art

lavish finch
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That's your response, not someone else's? And you're a "beginner"?

lusty zenith
thorny steeple
slim fjord
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Links not allowed

shut junco
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Mesmorizing

civic reef
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truly an artful, skillful individual

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i mean the anime girl, not the artist, of course

lavish finch
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@toxic grotto I hope you don't take my questions in the wrong way. I'm really just trying to make sense of what I'm seeing. I'm also passionate about philosophy and art.

terse belfry
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Hello everyone, how everyone doing?

toxic grotto
granite fractal
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Nothing in particular

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What about you?

formal void
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hello guys

thorny steeple
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Hello...

static pivot
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Hello there

lavish finch
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politics

static pivot
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Hello

thorny steeple
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@lavish finch

lavish finch
thorny steeple
remote cosmos
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Sirius

slim fjord
tulip veldt
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Hello

static pivot
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Hello everyone

inner lance
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hello everyone

vernal spire
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Hell-o Folks

jovial pine
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Hey guys. I am quite new to this sever so if i am typing in the wrong chat please let me know.

But i have a couple of problems when it comes to Speaking and writing English.
Them being i dont know how to get the things i want to say across fluently. I am never smooth with my speaking as well, i always get stuck when trying to explain something even if i know about that "something" i am trying to explain to.

I am really bad at spelling. Something i never really practiced and now is the time for me to do so. But i do not know how to start.

Mainly i want to learn how to spell better and i want to learn how i can explain things more smoother with good vocabulary that actually makes sense.

Can anyone help me out??

jovial pine
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Ohhh hell yea

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Thanks man

formal void
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Why you want to your camera on

little tapir
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if you had a device that lets everyone see things how you see them, a device that lets people be more inclined towards adopting your perspectives. would you use it?

thorny steeple
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I'd make multiple copies of it and create a business with it earn money.

civic reef
# little tapir if you had a device that lets everyone see things how you see them, a device tha...

it would put me on trial in a way, because then i would have to choose between morality and immorality in a way deeper level than in my everyday life, for example this is a power that would potentially make me irresistable in dating, but would I use it to gain advantage in this aspect and just plainly utilize this to have more fun with more attractive partners? am not sure about this, same for business, i could negotiate under radiculous conditions, and still be likely, unnaturaly likely, to win the negotations for whatever i tried to negatiate for, and in this particular case i think i would be pretty inclined to do that, because business is actually usually no feelings

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if i try to think that i could possibly abandon morality, then now i have options like starting a cult, or anything i would like and as a normal person i wouldnt be able to start, but do i wanna live such a risky life?

civic reef
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or maybe reversed? like i would turn into a hero, and try to convince human trafficers that maybe what they're doing is wrong, using their logic its unprofitable for them, rescue the women who are abducted and sold illegally like items, etc, improve lives of people who would normally have no chances of improvement

gusty tapir
pliant dawn
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Hello guys. What do you think about stoicism?

little tapir
civic reef
# little tapir if we say the device does not work merely on taking advantage of others, but act...

this would mean that i can be happy in life at no huge cost anymore, like the effort that i normally would neet to put into achieving something would be reduced a lot if i just managed to know a lot of people, and make sure all of them absorb my mindset, because then i can literally create a narrative in which other people would be inclined to obey to me easier, simply by doing something like "i think i should not listen to myself, only to a person who is able to convince me of something in an extraordinary way that is normally impossible" = i logically will not meet a person who has such abilities, but people i know will (its gonna be me), this way i can take advantage of them as much as i want

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even if they again absorb this mindset and they want to take an advantage of me myself then, then i can even defend myself against a betrayal like this by extending my logic with "...this way i can take advantage of them as much as i want, as long as I am truly capable of doing something like this" = they would be not able to anymore, but i would still, since all they get from me is the mindset, not the powers of my device

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as long as i am able to convince myself to something like this, and believe this narrative myself, then i can spread it, and yet the need of being obedient will not apply to me, because i logically created a process in which it is 100% necessary for the individual to be convinced of something in an unnatural, powerful way

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and i can not be vulnerable to this myself, since other people do not posess my device, so i created a mechanism which allows me, and not them, be superior

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the only way to vanquish me in that case would be to actually convince me myself in an extraordinary, insane way, which i assumed is impossible for normal human beings to do

slim fjord
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No understand pepe_cry

gusty thistle
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helo evryone

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hows evryone doing

gusty thistle
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all the time

civic reef
civic reef
gusty thistle
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yes i beleieved so... and thats what everyone told me too... and thank you

empty carbon
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Heyyy

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How are you guys

empty carbon
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What is this ?

thorny steeple
astral veldt
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What is a Stoicism?

fervent marlin
urban swift
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What you guys opinion on french riots and rioters

pure atlas
# urban swift What you guys opinion on french riots and rioters

I personally think that some people have gone too far, the idea at first was not to destroy life of people that did nothing, they destroy people's cars, burn schools and rob some small shops that are gonna struggle to end the month and probably some more because someone broke their shop or burned their car. Anarchy is a political idea, and they can have this view if they want I don't care but there it has gone way more destructive and some people use the death of this kid as an excuse to rob and destroy. I'm sorry for this kid and his family, and I think abbuse from police officers should be more punished but there it has gone way more far. Some people used guns against the police saying they were responsible but not all police officers are bad persons. A lot of young persons took advantage of the situation to rob . I find it sad that people have so little respect to others for using the excuse that they want to see the governement react to destroy people lives

dire pawn
thorny steeple
forest raptor
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I'm Sorry to just barge in the convo, but wouldn't it Be Good as well?

dire pawn
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it depends on the way look at it

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and you shouldn't be sorry

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this is a public chat in a public server

forest raptor
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I apologized because i lack the context of their convo

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So i might say something completely pointless, but if i understood the question, then it wouldn't be as bad as u think

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It would be bad if u look at it from that perspective, because if everyone were to see things how u see them, the World would lack diversity, but u would also avoid pointless misunderstandings, sometimes having different opinions on a specific topic doesn't necessarily mean all the opinions are worth debating.

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But then again, it depends on how the device actually works.
If u could use it for just a brief moment to make the other person experience ur point of view and work towards a more rational Debate, as i just said, it would reduce the pointless headbutting between opinions that at times are just simply not worth considering.
But if the device was active over time, like a lingering effect, then it would simply be a mean to force ur view on others and obtain full consent and agreement on Your opinion that could very well be wrong, basically an alternative version of the nazi agenda.
A device that makes other people see things the exact same way u see them can be either a useful item to increase the quality of communication between opposite extremes, or absolute power over everything, a full mind-fuck that lets you "censor" any thought that's not in line with your view, and it All depends on how long the effects last for, and who is in charge of using it and when.

forest raptor
thorny steeple
forest raptor
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I agree with the fact that different thoughts, equal more potential for different, unique conversations.
But you Can't deny that this World has seen its fair share of absolute trash opinions that were based on thin air.

thorny steeple
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In fact, according to logic, something cannot be right and wrong at the same time.. So what is the factor that creates contradictions?

forest raptor
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How many times have you listened to someone speak, stopped for a second, and thought to yourself "wow, i just wasted Oxygen and 5 minutes of my Life sharing my thoughts with this individual"

forest raptor
forest raptor
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Or rather, more specifically, one's inability to Accept they were wrong on a certain topic, and so they force theirs onto others until everyone agrees.

thorny steeple
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Well, there are two defendants before the lawyer and the judge, and how can we know which one is correct? so everyone has an opinion.. some blindly lie, some right.. but what is the measure of the concept of truth/truth?

forest raptor
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It depends on the context unfortunately

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Sometimes there's no right or wrong

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Just what we define as truth

thorny steeple
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hmm i think the perception of reality is different for everyone

forest raptor
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A good example is the endless war of religious people vs atheists

forest raptor
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But most of the time no one knows

forest raptor
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Because u only live ur reality

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Which is reality+ur perception of it

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Which is never quite reality itself

thorny steeple
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there were logically satisfactory answers on both sides

thorny steeple
forest raptor
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When there's an evenly played out match in logic, people resort to ethics usually, which are also far too subjective to be a determining factor

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That's what i was saying before

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Religion vs non belief

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I'm atheist

thorny steeple
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true and real are not the same if we are talking about philosophical terms

forest raptor
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And after Years of pushing my narrative against religious people

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I realized

thorny steeple
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yes, this raises the question of what is the determining measure of ethical rules?

forest raptor
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I'm just as wrong, because as much as they can't prove their "truth", neither can i, but a lot of atheists don't think about this, so they do the same Mistake religious people do

forest raptor
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Any reasonable person would agree with the basic fact that we as a species, are unethical by nature

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The only thing that got us here, is the fact that we Are more mentally developed, hence prone to Feel complex things like empathy, but everyone feels it to a different degree, while some, not at all

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But when empathy, means reality, and the need of survival, u get the hypocrisy i was mentioning just a moment ago

thorny steeple
forest raptor
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Because if u're in a dire situation, u can't and won't prioritize empathy over ur survival, ethics are just a desperate attempt at deceiving our own perception of ourselves

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It gives u this false hope that you are a good person, because society molds u around this "ethical code", but if u look in urself long enough, u know it's bullshit

forest raptor
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It's definitely influenced by my very negative perception of reality

thorny steeple
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what about hypocrisy? Can you unpack this a little? i.e. to ppl have an ego? or

forest raptor
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The hypocrisy I'm referring to is the basic human condition, in contrast to our "advanced" Society

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Think about it, how many people, do u see, constantly claiming to be Good, with all their bullshit

thorny steeple
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hm

forest raptor
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Oh i go for green energy, oh i do charity, oh i do this and that

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And then, u take a look, and realize that out of 7+ billion people, less than 2.5 live this life we Know, thanks to the sacrifice of the other 4.5+ that live in inhumane conditions

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So how good can u be when really u are in a lucky spot, that never forces u to go out of your way

gusty thistle
thorny steeple
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so basically they are not as we perceive them or they are.. we can never know that.. unfortunately I can't read people's souls and feelings.. sometimes it's hard to read good or bad with their words.

forest raptor
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And keep in mind, I'm telling you all of this without caring, i couldn't care less about these people I'm talking about, but atleast i don't claim to be Good when i know I'm just a lucky piece of shit

forest raptor
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What I'm saying is, good and bad are very childish concepts

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If u look at reality, good people most of the time are good because they've been treated horribly in the past, or as i said, because their lucky situation lets them be

gusty thistle
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we all have good and bad sides ... dont matter

forest raptor
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Some people Are worthless scum, but a lot of bad people are just individuals in a situation that forces them to act unethically to in order to survive, and lucky people like us, always have some "nice" Words to share, fully dressed with all of their hypocrisy, we All like to act high and mighty, but very few people can claim to be unconditionally good

gusty thistle
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matter*

forest raptor
thorny steeple
forest raptor
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It's mostly a matter of circumstances and will power, if u can handle suffering without turning ugly urself, good for You, but most people fail miserably, myself included

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This is just me answering ur question, Moon, not tryna lecture anyone, I'm a piece of shit as well, i just avoid lying by claiming to be good, since i know I'm neutral at best.

gusty thistle
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choices*

forest raptor
thorny steeple
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omg pls

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don't be so hard on yourself

forest raptor
forest raptor
lavish finch
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Yes

thorny steeple
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goodness and evil.. what makes the good ones good, what makes the bad ones bad.. I believe this is very relative, so we shouldn't generalize

gusty thistle
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me personally i had dealth with people that , made me bad choices because i was fighting for my rights and protecting myself. and made me diffeent person, liked it for a while but just its not me, so tbh ,, im working on getting myself back. ive been playing dead, emotionless, and unconerned for a while... just i cudnt anymore.. coz just not me..

thorny steeple
lavish finch
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…

gusty thistle
forest raptor
forest raptor
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We Can disagree, but recognize we both have a reasonable point of view, and have a nice respectful conversation like this, i always like to talk about these topics, to see people's true colors.

gusty thistle
gusty thistle
thorny steeple
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There is an example in which Freud is given through children. they all grew up in the same bad conditions... but they all became different people.some are doctors, some are swindlers, some are murderers, etc.

gusty thistle
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but i learned from it... and will always be learning ... we are just humans afterall... not an excuse tho

forest raptor
gusty thistle
thorny steeple
forest raptor
forest raptor
forest raptor
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We both are being respectful to each other, u just seem to be a lot more positive than i am, which leads to some minor disagreements

thorny steeple
gusty thistle
thorny steeple
forest raptor
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Then keep going, just work on urself until u feel u've reached a point where you are satisfied with the result

gusty thistle
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you two seems great

thorny steeple
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
forest raptor
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If u put someone under an outstanding amount of stress, or if u endanger them to then point of them feeling threatened, u can usually predict basic behavioral responses, because during high pressure situations we tend to act more like animals

gusty thistle
thorny steeple
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now we understand how unique the differences are "but sometimes"..

forest raptor
# thorny steeple so you noticed my point of view

Well that's the point of a Debate, i like your view, because it's more realistic, less negative, but i also know there's truth in my view, we Can both learn from each other, that's the key to this conversation

thorny steeple
gusty thistle
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i dont mean to send that

thorny steeple
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heheh

gusty thistle
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im new here so im still everywhere

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haha

thorny steeple
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it's fine

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wlcm @gusty thistle blushHEART

lavish finch
gusty thistle
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šŸ‘šŸ» both of you guys

thorny steeple
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hey Mr. James

gusty thistle
forest raptor
forest raptor
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Or maybe, going back to ur previous argument of "what's real at all?", maybe we believe it to be this Way because humans are just simply wired to find patterns, even when none are actually there

forest raptor
thorny steeple
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So how much is instinctive?

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what drives us to this?

forest raptor
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As i said, not being a psychologist, i can't say it for sure, but on a basic knowledge level, we Are a mixture

forest raptor
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We Are the result of a simple sum

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Primitive brain+behavioural evolution shaped around modern society

thorny steeple
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well I don't think it's simple at all.. I believe we are very complex beings

gusty thistle
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humans are just complex being driven by different rulers/ rules..

forest raptor
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Ur primitive part of the brain determines basic instinctive responses that help u deal with danger and survival, while the stuff u need to live in society, or atleast to live a civil life, is learned stuff, artificially structured patterns we developed to avoid behaving like animals in heat 24/7

forest raptor
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Our complexity is partially caused by how simple we Are on a deeper level

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Think about what i just said about the mixture

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If u see a beautiful naked woman, the natural instinct is, breed, take control, get pleasure, reproduce, go Ahead, Repeat the cycle

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U are inevitably gonna get an erection

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So why don't You have sex with her? Because that would only work in a simple world, like the ancient one

gusty thistle
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strange sometimes

forest raptor
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In today's society that would be rape

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Which is a nono, regardless of ur ethics

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So the responses we get, the reactions we Have, are still very simple, but we Are conditioned by our modern behavioral structures, that we need to keep a somewhat stable and ethical society(which we are not, but this is debatable), hence a simple reaction has to be processed with a complex system of mental processing, that's why we Are not beasts anymore

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The thing is, we still are, we didn't lose the instincts, we just know better, and usually, avoid acting upon them, unless it's allowed by our modern rules

thorny steeple
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We can talk for hours on such matters.. I know that ideas give birth to other ideas.

forest raptor
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Yeah i know, i just liked talking with you about these topics, I'm just giving u my opinions built around some facts that i know, but looking for a final solution is not realistic here

thorny steeple
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We discussed it for hours with the professor at the university haha.. human, human values, instincts source etc.

forest raptor
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This was just a friendly Debate, I'm Sorry it eventually extended this much, but i appreciate ur interesting, respectful feedback

thorny steeple
gusty thistle
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interesting tho

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was reading cathing up ..

forest raptor
gusty thistle
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catching up*

thorny steeple
forest raptor
thorny steeple
forest raptor
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That's all That matters, it was a pleasurable experience on both ends, i also appreciated some of the interventions from @gusty thistle, anyways, good night, and ty for the Interesting convo

thorny steeple
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I have another friend and we talk to him like this for a long time I wish you to meet him hahah

forest raptor
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I mean if he has discord we could all have a small voice chat debating some interesting topics like these, peacefully

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Or just let him drop a few texts, idk, it could be fun

gusty thistle
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ya all have. agood night..

forest raptor
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Nope, u were very respectful, and some stuff i agreed with as well, i hope u had a good Time too, I'm Sorry if i was rude in any way, didn't mean to.

gusty thistle
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its always good to hear other people opnions and experinces

forest raptor
gusty thistle
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mqybe , we will, u have a good night as well

forest raptor
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Thank you

gusty thistle
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WC

static pivot
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Hello there everyone

little tapir
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people may think they are on the right, and that they have the best of qualities (i may do as well), so having more of you means more success, but that's such a bad mistake. without the differences in mindset we may never complete one another, society heavily dysfunctional.

forest raptor
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We kinda got there yesterday, during the small debate, but wouldn't you say society is already dysfunctional? It may look civilized on the surface, but i don't think it's functional

little tapir
# forest raptor We kinda got there yesterday, during the small debate, but wouldn't you say soci...

not talking about this kind of dysfunction, because in relation to what i am describing, is not as bad. it's a tradeoff, you get to have humans with different colors, but you pay for it with the existence of conflict. and let us think about this, if for example we have everyone be einstein, everyone as smart, and everyone with the same opinoins. where are the lawyers? the doctors? what if einstein hated working as a laborer, where are the laborers? how about if the one whose mindset we share is heavily disagreeable? that would create hell on earth. it's also a problem since my background is in ee and ai, so i will be giving an example here as well (:. in lots of machine learning methods, you create different models with different parameters and seek to find the one that gives you best results. had you initialized all of these models on the same parameters, do you have the same chance of getting the best model? not even close.

forest raptor
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Yeah to be fair I'm Not trying to Argue in favor of this option, it was just a question, and i agree with it, as much as it's already dysfunctional, it would definitely get worse

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But that's why i said what i said yesterday, i think depending on who Gets access to the device, and how long the effects last, it could be very interesting. Lemme see if i can find the msg

forest raptor
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But then again, it depends on how the device actually works.
If u could use it for just a brief moment to make the other person experience ur point of view and work towards a more rational Debate, as i just said, it would reduce the pointless headbutting between opinions that at times are just simply not worth considering.
But if the device was active over time, like a lingering effect, then it would simply be a mean to force ur view on others and obtain full consent and agreement on Your opinion that could very well be wrong, basically an alternative version of the nazi agenda.
A device that makes other people see things the exact same way u see them can be either a useful item to increase the quality of communication between opposite extremes, or absolute power over everything, a full mind-fuck that lets you "censor" any thought that's not in line with your view, and it All depends on how long the effects last for, and who is in charge of using it and when.

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It was this one

little tapir
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not an effect that would go tho since the device works on altering neuron connections Evillady

forest raptor
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Ah see, that's why i was afraid yesterday, because i lacked the context of the conversation, nvm then, definitely a bad idea then

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Not a device i'd suggest lol

little tapir
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that device was just a way for me to tell the greater point. which is that, even if we get the best human, or what we think of as the human with the "best" capabilities (knowing that no single human is the best in all aspects), it would still be so bad to make everyone a copy of him.

forest raptor
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Ah i see, yeah yesterday i lacked the general context, so i just answered the question moon answered to, thank you for the info

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I'd say it's very hard to Argue such a point, it wouldn't go well for sure

civic reef
forest raptor
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Regardless of personal capabilities, not everyone is socially capable as well, u might get a very efficient society that crumbles on a different aspect

forest raptor
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Because yes, u wouldn't have criminals and such, but there wouldn't be a society evolved enough for You to even understand this, because it would inevitably crumble on itself, everyone would be Good at the exact same thing, which is very good for progress, but since everyone also has the same short comings, one single issue might destroy said society, it wouldn't look good is what I'm getting at, it would be an extremely efficient yet frail society.

toxic grotto
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I often read Pdf/epub books. Is there an application that I can export the points I highlighted and took notes on the book (I tried Moon+ Reader Pro, ReadEra, Google Play Books, eReader Prestigio, FBReader)?

little tapir
# forest raptor Because yes, u wouldn't have criminals and such, but there wouldn't be a society...

you understand my point to an extreme extent, so, ||lets copy you||.
fr tho i would despise a society composed of my mindset, even though i think highly of myself. you'll get a society with no emotion as well. it would not be a life worth living. and all of us fall short at one aspect or another. if no one is there to fill that hole, we are doomed. also, "similar" does not mean "compatible" as i mentioned the "disagreeable person" point earlier.

forest raptor
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But yeah, that's definitely the end of the argument, and it's just the undeniable truth, it wouldn't work, not on paper, nor in real application, and ur point about the difference between similar and compatible is very good, it would be an issue

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Most of the time you would have conflict even if u had the exact same mindset, because some people are just naturally disagreeable, depending on Your personality you could even be in more conflict than you'd be with a different person.

little tapir
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exactly

thorny steeple
#

I hate Elon Musk for ruining twitter.

shut junco
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Twitter was already a hot mess before he came and bought it but yea he hasn't done much to fix any of the issues

thorny steeple
#

Everything on web is getting so ruined

shut junco
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Oh yea, I heard about that

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Pretty lame

static pivot
thorny steeple
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hello everyone

gusty thistle
#

helo here

static pivot
gusty thistle
thorny steeple
#

Hii

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How's everyone

gusty thistle
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good

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urseflf?

heavy marsh
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hello smart people

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How many conspiracies America planning to do

jagged quiver
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hey guys

thorny steeple
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hi everyone

heavy marsh
#

hey 23

jovial linden
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Hi everyone

static pivot
thorny steeple
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hello everyone

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Who wanna be friend with me? cause i wanna make foreigner friends. if you interested you can add me

silver grail
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damn

narrow cipher
narrow cipher
thorny steeple
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Is anyone from it chat a polyglot?

zinc ridge
#

Gta - France

thorny steeple
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Hi

heavy marsh
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hi 2

zinc ridge
#

No greetings
Only serious talksangry_monarch

severe timber
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Bro

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What are you talking about

heavy marsh
#

put it in memes chat

zinc ridge
thorny steeple
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Whatever is happening with them , good they deserve it.

zinc ridge
heavy marsh
civic reef
zinc ridge
zinc ridge
civic reef
civic reef
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we kinda dont accept everyone here, like sure we took a lot of ukrainian people but that was necessary cuz they are war immigrants

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plus they are slavic so cultural assimilation is possible

thorny steeple
zinc ridge
toxic grotto
#

Does anyone actively use OneNote?

civic reef
#

i used to for a short timespan

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but i switched to Anki, it it way more intelligent, i use it for more than two years now and would recommend anyone who wants to note new vocab somewhere

violet flower
#

i'm not an expert, but i have some experience

toxic grotto
violet flower
#

mmmm i'm not shure i have this level bro

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i cant send you a picture

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i wanted to show you my design

lusty axle
#

Hello

toxic grotto
balmy lance
#

Hi. Anyone tried bouncy balls.org for classroom management for early years?

lusty axle
#

Who else working at night? 😓

vernal crypt
thorny steeple
#

hello

static pivot
slender orchid
#

hello

thorny steeple
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What are you studying tho

shy root
#

hey guys, do you know what keyboard shortcut that use except alt+f8 to show password for email app in desktop windows 11 asus

lusty axle
static pivot
#

@lusty axle

thorny steeple
static pivot
#

college is much tougher and then job

vernal crypt
#

It can be

thorny steeple
#

Hello everyone

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How are you all

thorny steeple
uneven storm
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Hello people, how do you guys make it today?

thorny steeple
#

By talking

lusty axle
lusty axle
static pivot
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Nah bro

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@vernal crypt hey you šŸ™‚

twin needle
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Hello.

thorny steeple
#

Hello @twin needle

twin needle
thorny steeple
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I am good and you

twin needle
#

I'm great.

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Thanks for asking.

thorny steeple
#

You are welcome

#

What are you doing

twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Hmm welcome to the server

twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Then I am here

twin needle
#

Yes, I see. I feel you are good man

thorny steeple
#

Hmm thx

#

Where are you from

twin needle
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Welcome my friend.

vernal crypt
twin needle
thorny steeple
#

German?

twin needle
#

No

thorny steeple
#

China?

vernal crypt
#

China

twin needle
#

no

thorny steeple
#

Russia?

vernal crypt
#

Earth?

twin needle
#

no

vernal crypt
#

I mean...

twin needle
vernal crypt
#

Ok mike
I give up

thorny steeple
#

Turkiye?

twin needle
#

no

vernal crypt
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Tell us where you hale from

thorny steeple
#

Hmm

twin needle
#

Ok, I'm from Saoudi Arabia

thorny steeple
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Indonesia

vernal crypt
#

Maybe he's American

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Oh and we were almost there

thorny steeple
vernal crypt
#

That was my next guess

thorny steeple
#

Then your turn

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Guess my country

vernal crypt
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I'm not from earth

thorny steeple
#

Mars? @vernal crypt

twin needle
twin needle
thorny steeple
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Why

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Being a Muslim is not a shameful thing

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Anyway start

twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Oh okay

twin needle
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I think you are from India

thorny steeple
#

Nope

twin needle
#

Nepal

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US or UK

thorny steeple
#

No

twin needle
#

Hmm

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Russia

thorny steeple
#

No

twin needle
#

Egypt

thorny steeple
#

No

twin needle
#

Iraq

thorny steeple
#

I live in Europa but I am from Asia

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But it's the same country

thorny steeple
twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Nice to meet you too

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My country has land in both Europe and Asia

twin needle
#

Hmm, I give up

thorny steeple
#

Turkiye

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I am from Turkiye

twin needle
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Oh man.

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Why didn't this thing come to my mind

thorny steeple
#

I don't know šŸ˜…

twin needle
#

hhhhh

#

I was supposed to know.

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by the way, What's your name?

thorny steeple
#

Hamza wbu

twin needle
#

that's a gorgeous name

thorny steeple
#

Yeah

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What's your name

twin needle
#

you can called me "Mike" or "Saeed"

thorny steeple
#

You can call me Saint šŸ™‚

twin needle
#

hhhh

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Ok Ok I'm "Saeed"

thorny steeple
#

Hmm nice

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How old are you Saeed

twin needle
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My name is a normal name.

twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Maybe 18

twin needle
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no

thorny steeple
#

Or 20

twin needle
#

I will give you some answers

thorny steeple
#

Hmm okay

twin needle
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20 - 21 - 22 - 23

thorny steeple
#

21?

twin needle
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You think that?

thorny steeple
#

Yeah

twin needle
#

congratulations, that's the correct answer

ember matrix
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hello

twin needle
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Yes, my age is 21

thorny steeple
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Hello @ember matrix

twin needle
thorny steeple
twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Guess

twin needle
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Hmm

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22

thorny steeple
#

15-16-17-18-19-20

twin needle
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Oh my god

thorny steeple
#

Which

twin needle
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17

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Yes or no?

thorny steeple
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No

twin needle
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19

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I choose all answers.

thorny steeple
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Nope

twin needle
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I'm joking

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20

thorny steeple
#

No

twin needle
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15

thorny steeple
#

I am 15 years old šŸ™‚

twin needle
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Finally

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Wow you in 15 and speak English.

thorny steeple
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Yeah

twin needle
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That's amazing, you know?

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you have two languages Turkish and English.

thorny steeple
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Yeah

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I start to learn German language

twin needle
#

in this way, you will have a wonderful future.

thorny steeple
#

A language means a person

thorny steeple
twin needle
#

Take this advice. To be or not to be that's the question.

thorny steeple
#

Yeah

twin needle
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I hope to see you fluent in Chinese as well

thorny steeple
twin needle
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because you know the Most industries are now Chinese

twin needle
twin needle
thorny steeple
#

I am thinking

twin needle
#

Did I say something wrong?

thorny steeple
twin needle
thorny steeple
#

I am just thinking

twin needle
#

Forgive me, I'm a beginner so I thought I said something wrong

thorny steeple
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I understand you

twin needle
#

Nice to hear that.

thorny steeple
#

I'm having the same problem

thorny steeple
twin needle
#

no, I see you fluently.

ember matrix
#

seems that this chat doesn't have a Brazilian lol šŸ‡§šŸ‡·

twin needle
#

In English.

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Hamza, are you here?

thorny steeple
#

Yeah I am here

thorny steeple
twin needle
#

No no, you are not a beginner, you are a professional

ember matrix
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
ivory gorge
twin needle
#

it's fine, I'm sure you will make English like your native language

ember matrix
ember matrix
static pivot
#

Some*

twin needle
thorny steeple
#

Ok bye

twin needle
#

May I serve you something before I go?

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Ok goodbye.

thorny steeple
ember matrix
pearl roost
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hI

#

hi

thorny steeple
pearl roost
#

I am good

#

Wbu?

thorny steeple
pearl roost
#

so you r an indian just like me

thorny steeple
#

@pearl roost yes, I am. Why?

pearl roost
#

just asking

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tell me about urself them

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then*

thorny steeple
pearl roost
#

um anything ur hobbies , age , and something like that

thorny steeple
pearl roost
#

I am 16 ...I Iike to watch series and movies ...ummm nd i am a introvert so school sucks

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nd gatherings nd all too

thorny steeple
#

@pearl roost start talking to people, initialy it's hard. But u have to put in sime efforts to improove yourself

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@pearl roost and time flies

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Hi

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How are you all

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@thorny steeple yo

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@thorny steeple I'm good hbu

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Same

#

What's the topic

#

@thorny steeple nothing special

pearl roost
#

actually the thing is that i was an extrovert a year ago but i had a break up nd i was depressed or something....in 10th grade my marks fall too and i just want to score good marks in 11th nd idk how to be productive ...and idont want to go school ...i want to study at home ...but idk how to tell my parents

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what a long para

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hahha

thorny steeple
#

@thorny steeple Run

thorny steeple
#

@pearl roost U won't even remember that break up. After 5 yrs

thorny steeple
#

Hmm okay

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@thorny steeple so are u a student

pearl roost
thorny steeple
#

Yeah I am student

thorny steeple
#

Nice

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@thorny steeple What's your major

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Science

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Wbu

thorny steeple
thorny steeple
pearl roost
teal crest
#

i meet a sentence, which says "a nun on a run".
means, there is a nun (a woman of religious order) who is running.

shouldn't the sentence be "a nun in a run?"

pearl roost
teal crest
#

so, which one is correct?
"a nun on a run" or "a nun in a run"?

thorny steeple
teal crest
pearl roost
thorny steeple
#

@pearl roost I can't give u any advice because i don't know u and Your bg. So u figure things out on your own.

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@pearl roost btw good luck

pearl roost
thorny steeple
#

No

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@pearl roost well u need to figure things out on your own. Maybe the thing which might work for me. Won't work for u

teal crest
thorny steeple
pearl roost
pearl roost
thorny steeple
pearl roost
fleet gale
#

yean

#

im good,wbu?

thorny steeple
#

Hello everyone

#

How are you all

thorny steeple
#

Hello guys

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Im from Brazil and I want to study in Australia

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I have a intermediary level of English

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I can talk. But not much fluently

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Any advice?

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I have e Australian friends

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And im in a aussie server

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Because I already want to know the slangs both irl and net ones

glad helm
#

ta ok

thorny steeple
glad helm
#

comunista

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ta ok

thorny steeple
#

@glad helm vc Ć© br

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One piece

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Kkkk

glad helm
#

tamo junto

vernal crypt
# thorny steeple Hello guys

I would suggest prepping for a Cambridge exam.
Firstly you could test online to see what your levels are for:
Reading/writing/
Listening

There are loads of free materials online to help you prep, but you might consider having a teacher help.
Read!!
Highlight new words
Practice using them

Writing practice too.

thorny steeple
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I took English classes in elementary school but they weren't good. But I attended private classes which really helped me and the material was all in English and there were conversation classes. In high school I had classes at a much better school, unfortunately it was in another city and I couldn't take private classes because it was a full-time school on some days or there was much homework as is both a technical school and a regular one

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I can understand complex speech

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But saying is difficult also my accent is very strong as I my state has a very unique one

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@vernal crypt are you british?

vernal crypt
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No, American. I'm an English teacher.

thorny steeple
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You live in Uk?

glad helm
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i think his is comunista

thorny steeple
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Hello everyone

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How are you all

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Im fine

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What are you doing

vernal crypt
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
thorny steeple
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Why?

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Because You cursed

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Mk==curse

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Mortal Kombat kekk

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What

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what

lusty axle
ember matrix
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I use this program and it's really good, they correct the sentences and words when u type/write in English

lusty axle
ember matrix
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I don't have in mind another program to practice writing

lusty axle
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share with me when u finddd

thorny steeple
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I think maybe I'll wait for two years to acquire knowledge, fluency in English and of course money

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@ember matrix ah vc Ć© br

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A gente pode falar em portuguĆŖs aqui?

thorny steeple
ember matrix
ember matrix
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Eu quero ir pra lĆ” pq Ć© um lugar bom de trabalhar

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E estudar

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DÔ pra juntar dinheiro lÔ enquanto estudar ou não?

thorny steeple
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@ember matrix

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então, eu nao sei como é o visto europeu

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eu acho garantido comeƧar a trabalhar pra ganhar euro e entao estudar

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@thorny steeple

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NĆ£o europa

ember matrix
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ata kkkkkkk viajei entao

vernal crypt
# lusty axle Can you give me ways how to practice writing? I really want to try writing a blo...

I would start by reading other blogs to get an idea of the structure.
Always keep a dictionary and thesaurus nearby; tools for all writers.
There are other tools that teachers and students use to help with grammar:
A grammar book called Grammar in Use
By
Raymon Murphy
This is a practical guide through English grammar, offering examples and practice.
You're welcome to add me as a friend and share snippets (examples) of your work any time.
Cheers!🌻

static pivot
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I like you another day

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You are very serious and helpful

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@split nimbus hello

toxic plover
vernal crypt
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You gotta use words that are more ubiquitous, ya know ? UwU

white gorge
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hey so yall speak american english or

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british?

polar birch
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so no americans in this server?

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damn i dont speak british english tho

forest raptor
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there are people from everywhere, america included

white gorge
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ok

forest raptor
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also keep in mind, most foreigners like me, automatically pick up the american accent, since it's the most common

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you shouldn't worry about not having a british accent, the difference between american and british english is very minor