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I don't think you can
You can send a voice message to me in #1029075039741562880
TY! i will have a try later.šāāļø
may I know why ur voice messages are different from others'? their are files or links
Mine are different? How?
I donāt think they are. Try sending me one.
@lavish finch Do you know how many irregular verbs there are in English ?
200
thanks
thanks you
Spidey spidey lots of spidies
I am the most serious person.
Guys, I'm going to participate in QCEC 2023. As you can see, the deadline in 30th June and I have so little time left. And that's why I want the help of you guys. I mean, can I get some proper guidelines here please?
That's terrifying. I hate spiders
what is qcec
Queens Commonwealth Essay Competition
yea i couldnt even watch
there is on going class, you can ask your question there
I thought it was just a bunch of black hair pilled up, and then they all start moving....yikes, gave me goosebumps just seeing it lol

i do
What do you think about people who think that they will trust another person at 100% if he or she marry them?
they have a career in comedy
should we give them oscar?
Sounds interesting
nvm, i just think that they have trust issues and marriage is like a button for them to turn their anxiety off about dishonest and disloyalty
or some kind of social stereotype
Feel free to post your draft essay and request feedback. And tag me.
about serious topics ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
don't worry, I am too. We are here to learn
I'm going to Croatia next month. Should I learn some words in croatian or more then "thank you" and "excuse me" or english will be good enough ?
Also learn how to say " NO "
Hi
Hello
how you doing
I'm cool thanks hbu
seriousness intensifies
Whats topic
Come in beginner chat
Because of my language?
No there is a topic otherwise u can stay here 
Ok
Your english seems decent tho
bc iām here for speak instead of work my baccalaureate
@lusty zenith would you like to go in vc? you have created an impression of a pretty comfy person
thank you for your compliment, but my voice and accent are too horrible for VC 
where are you from? how your accent sounds like?
mostly I just speak too softly. And I am shy lol
but my written English is definitely better than my spoken
the first practice ive got was in hungary and their accent isš«”, but i started to understood them fully after 15 minutes of talking, so i think there won't be many problems in understanding your accent
but anyway if you feel uncomfortable i won't insist
thank you. There are many available rooms, maybe you can join one of them
i still wonder how many phrases in other communities are quite ok, but for my surrounding it sounded a bit rude
what kind of music do you listen to
Hiiiiii
I need helpp guys
What is the difference between "I" and "I am"?
thanks in advance for your help
Rock
Use " I am "with the adjective and " I " with the verb
hotel california - eagles, one headlight - the walflowers, mary janes last dance - tom petty and the heart breakers
those are all older songs let me see if i can find news ones
i cant find any but there is also "what its like" and "white trash beautiful" both by everlast
Hi
you haven't slept yet?
No and u
No
Why?
Insomnia
No, I mean why aren't you sleeping yet
Don't u know Insomnia
How is that possible. When I shared my Spotify playlist with you, you said you think we have very different taste in music. All my songs, my favorite songs are old and meaningful.
Okay so heres the thing,
I love songs like father and son
But I've been listening to rock n roll mostly
My style is more like AC/DC, over the horizen
Cat Stevens?
Yes
Heās one of my favorite all-time musicians.
I donāt know how familiar you are with his other music but there are so many more extraordinary ones.
If you donāt know about it you might like the film Harold and Maude, which he did the soundtrack for.
Im liking this
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hi people
Hi john
Welcome

So you must be serious. Don't tell a lie in the holy channel.
You said you were from China. And 35 yo....


Hi everyone
hi
Hiii
Good morning everyone
Heliou~
hi
Where are you from? Spain?
Hellooo !!!
Good morning
Mornings cannot be good or bad. It is up to the person to decide if they feel happy or sad when they awake in the morning 
||Just joking of course||
it is a kind of understanding of morning from the perspective of mind
every joke contains a bit of truth
Yes
Hi
Hello everyone
Hello
@static pivot
You're not
Thank you sir and I will. Appreciate it š
this is kinda right tbh
*stoicism
*
i am
Hello
Why this channel not on my channel list :/
I mean are there more like this one?
Hii
hi
Check channels and roles
Hi, were you ever in a toxic relationship?
Hello
no no
How can I say 'Hello' to sound serious....
Hello.
Hello?
With dot
Yeah š
How about you have a pfp like me
Just joined lately
Hanee can you be my friend?
No
Oh, then it will be more serious
Hello.....
Good idea. But my cat is already serious.
Looks confused
Are you the admin here?
Why?
You just make friends with admins?
Do you want to be friends with a normal member like me?

No
Yes. (serious)
Look how serious I sound
No need to mention that you're serious just add the dot
@pearl rain ill beat your bf
I appreciate it

So serious.
Hahaha no, just a questionš
Am an admin in the future.
Lol i'm married btw, just want to meet some friends or english partner
Hahaha cool
You can't laugh here.
Wait. We are not talking about dating
Any suggestions about serious laughing emoji?
Bery sirious talk
apologies
So you asked me if i was admin, is that means that you are ready to cheated on your husband with admin?
No problem.
seriously no
Yes, it is. Too serious.
How old are you?
good. and why you think that im looking for girlfriend?
We are serious here
Yeah he is looking for wife not gf
No, just getting used in discord u know
So halal.
I m sirous now
Just use this server only and you're good.
Halal is my religion
When did you create this account?
Mashallah.
Thanks
Earlier
wassup people
deep topics
Script a dialogue between two people, with contrasting viewpoints, on an issue that divides generations.
I kinda don't get the question, can anyone please explain this to me?
I mean, what should I actually write in this dialogue?
its the topic of QCEC
i'm gonna write
Hey everybody
Onli sirios talks
is this sentence grammatically correct " There is the cold wind blows from south". ?
So sirous matter.

Hey guys, in a two person dialogue, can i insert a third person viewpint?
like:
A- Lets go over that place.
B-Sure!
[And they started moving in a very slow speed]
A- [indicating a satellite panel with his finger] See that?
btw the question for the dialogue is, "Script a dialogue between two people, with contrasting viewpoints, on an issue that divides generations."
[its a question from Queens Commonwealth Essay Competition 2023]
you mean narration? Then yes I guess it works
In dialogue writing in most of the cases there are two persons
@static pivot
Hey I hope u have a good day/night , suggest me some good ways for improving speaking
maybe i should not be commenting on this one too much, since I struggle with it myself, but my struggles are usually caused by being either easily distracted or just getting anxious while talking, but what helped me to even develop any speaking in the first place was listening to the spoken language on daily basis
apps like Podbean, which is free, and Spotify which is kinda paid, even google podcasts if you use apps from google, offer a ton of hours of podcasts on various topics, i just replaced all kinds of radios/any audio broadcasts in my native language with english ones
without approaches like this I think I would have not developed any speaking at all, I would just not be able to form a sentence properly and even distinguish between "this sounds correct" and "okay this one sounds odd"
plus i guess the simple advice would be to just even try, like speaking, even to yourself, because then you get used to it, on random topics, i honestly regret that i have not been doing this for too long yet, i mostly just analysed a ton of native content and that was all I was doing, but if i was actually attempting to speak way more frequently, then maybe i would develop it further and gain preciousn confidence
*precious, the -n was a missclick, of course
Sup
Hey
hi bowtie
hello another bowtie
I know right
yeah for sure lol
okay thank you 
you mean, I can't insert a third person viewpoint here?
@thorny steeple
Come back when youre serious not confused


oh srryy
For what?
Bec I'm confused š„²
it's serious chat
You can be serious don't worry
Its very easy to be serious
actually i'm usually serious 
Are you Indonesian?
Bruh
I wanna go into Denmark or Norway or Sweden or Netherlands and make a shack and Finnaly snap out of reality
Norway and Sweden are very nice countries. Personally I would also consider Finland and Iceland
Do kids get eaten there or something
Sweden has one of the highest child molestation rates in the world
Comparable to south Africa
With the difference that you are treated nice in prison and will be payed bcz of the stress you got from being in prison and couldn't make money from your job
Could have something to do with their low population. Maybe the % is high but the actual number of cases is still better than a country with higher population
Still creepy though
Oh, it's per capita
That means the chance a 9yo will be raped is same as South Africa
I think they should just deport the rapers to be held in US prisons
A humanBeing who actually does such thing can't be treated or called a human anymore
What a shame. Maybe it will get better in the future. And yes I agree that crimes like this must be punished seriously
Killing a soul is worse than killing a body tbh
I have a question for those who want to chat.
How do different philosophical frameworks like existentialism or postmodernism influence artistic movements and scientific research?
i dont think that such thoughts will affect scientific research. if you were talking about religion and not an idea, i would say yes, it definitely affects. as i thought a Muslim would not do research on evolution. however, philosophical views dont have sharp boundaries and do not affect scientific research (this is my own opinion). but art is very different. everything affects art. even a new law published in that artist's country affects artist.
While it is true that scientific research is primarily driven by empirical evidence and methodological rigor, philosophical frameworks like existentialism and postmodernism can still have indirect influences on scientific inquiry. These philosophical perspectives shape our understanding of the world, human existence, and the nature of knowledge itself, which can, in turn, influence the questions we ask and the interpretations we make in scientific research.
Existentialism, for example, emphasizes the individual's experience of existence, freedom, and the search for meaning in a seemingly absurd world. This philosophical framework can inspire scientists to investigate the subjective aspects of human experience, such as consciousness, emotions, or the impact of existential crises on mental health. It may also encourage scientists to explore interdisciplinary approaches, recognizing the interconnectedness of various scientific fields and their implications for human existence.
On the other hand, postmodernism challenges grand narratives and encourages critical examination of power structures, language, and social constructs. While it may not directly impact scientific methodologies, postmodernism can influence scientific research by highlighting the social and cultural contexts in which knowledge is produced. Scientists may become more aware of their own biases, the influence of cultural factors on research outcomes, and the ethical considerations surrounding their work. This critical reflection can lead to more nuanced and socially conscious approaches to scientific inquiry
Very much, the philosophical frameworks you mentioned promote progressive thinking and a skeptic nature which is important to think beyond and induce scientific temperament and creative thinking. I think it's possible to site numerous evidences from the pages of history to support my answer.
No u can add
thanks!!

Throughout history, numerous examples demonstrate the impact of philosophical ideas on scientific and artistic advancements. For instance, the Enlightenment period's emphasis on reason and empiricism influenced the development of the scientific method, fostering a more systematic approach to inquiry.
Moreover, philosophical ideas have often challenged established beliefs and opened up new avenues of exploration. For example, the theory of relativity in physics, proposed by Albert Einstein, was influenced by philosophical concepts such as the relativity of space and time. This demonstrates the interconnectedness between philosophy and scientific progress.
In the realm of art, philosophical movements have played a significant role in shaping artistic expressions. The influence of existentialism can be seen in the works of artists like Frida Kahlo and Edvard Munch, who delved into themes of existential angst and the human condition. Postmodernism, with its deconstruction of traditional norms, has influenced art movements like pop art and conceptual art, challenging conventional notions of artistic expression.
By acknowledging the historical evidence and recognizing the ways in which philosophical frameworks have influenced scientific research and artistic movements, we can appreciate the profound impact that philosophical ideas can have on shaping our understanding of the world and fostering creativity and scientific exploration
āPhilosophy, as I shall understand the word, is something intermediate between theology and science. Like theology, it consists of speculations on matters as to which definite knowledge has, so far, been unascertainable; but like science, it appeals to human reason rather than to authority, whether that of tradition or that of revelation.
All definite knowledge ā so I should contend ā belongs to science; all dogmas as to what surpasses definite knowledge belongs to theology. But between theology and science there is a No Manās Land, exposed to attack from both sides, and this No Manās Land is philosophy. Almost all the questions of most interest to speculative minds are such as science cannot answer, and the confident answers of theologians no longer seem so convincing as they did in former centuries.ā
ā Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy
Overall, Russell's perspective on the role of philosophy highlights its commitment to reason, its exploration of unanswerable questions, and its critical examination of traditional beliefs. While other philosophers may hold alternative views, Russell's ideas offer a framework for engaging in intellectual inquiry and promoting the importance of critical thinking and rational analysis in the realm of philosophy.
Sounds like you're quoting someone.
Maybe using Chatgpt.
Right?
No. I am passionate about philosophy.
I'm mostly curious about the philosophy of art
That's your response, not someone else's? And you're a "beginner"?
maybe they just liked the color pink 

That hand animation though
Mesmorizing
lovely
truly an artful, skillful individual
i mean the anime girl, not the artist, of course
@toxic grotto I hope you don't take my questions in the wrong way. I'm really just trying to make sense of what I'm seeing. I'm also passionate about philosophy and art.
Hello everyone, how everyone doing?
No problem. What subject are you specifically interested in?
Hello
Nothing in particular
What about you?
hello guys
Hello...
Hello there
Language, knowledge, justice, truth, law, science, art, games
politics
Hello
Sir I did it just now. Can you please see it?
I have 2 hours until deadline.
@lavish finch
Hi Sifat! Congratulations on completing your essay. That's a great accomplishment. Unfortunately, I won't be able to check it for you within the 2 hour deadline you've set for yourself but I'm happy to look at it when I have the chance if you'd still like feedback.
Thank you sir, appreciate it!
Sirius
@atomic violet how are u
Emre is missing u
Hello
Hello everyone
hello everyone
Hell-o Folks
Hey guys. I am quite new to this sever so if i am typing in the wrong chat please let me know.
But i have a couple of problems when it comes to Speaking and writing English.
Them being i dont know how to get the things i want to say across fluently. I am never smooth with my speaking as well, i always get stuck when trying to explain something even if i know about that "something" i am trying to explain to.
I am really bad at spelling. Something i never really practiced and now is the time for me to do so. But i do not know how to start.
Mainly i want to learn how to spell better and i want to learn how i can explain things more smoother with good vocabulary that actually makes sense.
Can anyone help me out??
if you had a device that lets everyone see things how you see them, a device that lets people be more inclined towards adopting your perspectives. would you use it?
I'd make multiple copies of it and create a business with it earn money.
it would put me on trial in a way, because then i would have to choose between morality and immorality in a way deeper level than in my everyday life, for example this is a power that would potentially make me irresistable in dating, but would I use it to gain advantage in this aspect and just plainly utilize this to have more fun with more attractive partners? am not sure about this, same for business, i could negotiate under radiculous conditions, and still be likely, unnaturaly likely, to win the negotations for whatever i tried to negatiate for, and in this particular case i think i would be pretty inclined to do that, because business is actually usually no feelings
if i try to think that i could possibly abandon morality, then now i have options like starting a cult, or anything i would like and as a normal person i wouldnt be able to start, but do i wanna live such a risky life?
Yes u raight
or maybe reversed? like i would turn into a hero, and try to convince human trafficers that maybe what they're doing is wrong, using their logic its unprofitable for them, rescue the women who are abducted and sold illegally like items, etc, improve lives of people who would normally have no chances of improvement
Anyone from UK knows about this person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMw4tKg4eCg CEO of MEDIZAA INTERNATIONAL EQUIPMENT LIMITED
Hello guys. What do you think about stoicism?
if we say the device does not work merely on taking advantage of others, but actually spreads your mindset. meaning, the views you have about what is wrong or right, the ideology and so on. so now everyone you know thinks like you and may be inclined to agree with everything you say.
this would mean that i can be happy in life at no huge cost anymore, like the effort that i normally would neet to put into achieving something would be reduced a lot if i just managed to know a lot of people, and make sure all of them absorb my mindset, because then i can literally create a narrative in which other people would be inclined to obey to me easier, simply by doing something like "i think i should not listen to myself, only to a person who is able to convince me of something in an extraordinary way that is normally impossible" = i logically will not meet a person who has such abilities, but people i know will (its gonna be me), this way i can take advantage of them as much as i want
even if they again absorb this mindset and they want to take an advantage of me myself then, then i can even defend myself against a betrayal like this by extending my logic with "...this way i can take advantage of them as much as i want, as long as I am truly capable of doing something like this" = they would be not able to anymore, but i would still, since all they get from me is the mindset, not the powers of my device
as long as i am able to convince myself to something like this, and believe this narrative myself, then i can spread it, and yet the need of being obedient will not apply to me, because i logically created a process in which it is 100% necessary for the individual to be convinced of something in an unnatural, powerful way
and i can not be vulnerable to this myself, since other people do not posess my device, so i created a mechanism which allows me, and not them, be superior
the only way to vanquish me in that case would be to actually convince me myself in an extraordinary, insane way, which i assumed is impossible for normal human beings to do
No understand 
somehow i will...i have dealt with people that super hard to let them see what i wanted them to see. Hate to say " i told you" alot of times.
all the time
ah, sorry, i just got pretty far in my imagination i think
you seem like a genuine person if that's the first use case that appeared in your mind, i think
yes i beleieved so... and thats what everyone told me too... and thank you
no i dont
What is this ?
Chad
What is a Stoicism?
The ability to direct your emotions using logic to get the best result possible.
hmm, It sounds interesting
What you guys opinion on french riots and rioters
I personally think that some people have gone too far, the idea at first was not to destroy life of people that did nothing, they destroy people's cars, burn schools and rob some small shops that are gonna struggle to end the month and probably some more because someone broke their shop or burned their car. Anarchy is a political idea, and they can have this view if they want I don't care but there it has gone way more destructive and some people use the death of this kid as an excuse to rob and destroy. I'm sorry for this kid and his family, and I think abbuse from police officers should be more punished but there it has gone way more far. Some people used guns against the police saying they were responsible but not all police officers are bad persons. A lot of young persons took advantage of the situation to rob . I find it sad that people have so little respect to others for using the excuse that they want to see the governement react to destroy people lives
my guy, you've got some run-on sentences
something i can't do much
that would be so bad.. just think, there is no other thought on earth.. i'm talking about losing all colors.. just a black rainbow
I'm Sorry to just barge in the convo, but wouldn't it Be Good as well?
it depends on the way look at it
and you shouldn't be sorry
this is a public chat in a public server
I apologized because i lack the context of their convo
So i might say something completely pointless, but if i understood the question, then it wouldn't be as bad as u think
It would be bad if u look at it from that perspective, because if everyone were to see things how u see them, the World would lack diversity, but u would also avoid pointless misunderstandings, sometimes having different opinions on a specific topic doesn't necessarily mean all the opinions are worth debating.
But then again, it depends on how the device actually works.
If u could use it for just a brief moment to make the other person experience ur point of view and work towards a more rational Debate, as i just said, it would reduce the pointless headbutting between opinions that at times are just simply not worth considering.
But if the device was active over time, like a lingering effect, then it would simply be a mean to force ur view on others and obtain full consent and agreement on Your opinion that could very well be wrong, basically an alternative version of the nazi agenda.
A device that makes other people see things the exact same way u see them can be either a useful item to increase the quality of communication between opposite extremes, or absolute power over everything, a full mind-fuck that lets you "censor" any thought that's not in line with your view, and it All depends on how long the effects last for, and who is in charge of using it and when.
Anyways, as i was saying earlier, if i misunderstood the context of the conversation, i apologize for barging in with my nonsense.
hmm Well you don't need to apologize, I actually like your point of view. but i believe the world is better for different thoughts that's what i meant... but your point of view seemed reasonable too 
I agree with the fact that different thoughts, equal more potential for different, unique conversations.
But you Can't deny that this World has seen its fair share of absolute trash opinions that were based on thin air.
In fact, according to logic, something cannot be right and wrong at the same time.. So what is the factor that creates contradictions?
How many times have you listened to someone speak, stopped for a second, and thought to yourself "wow, i just wasted Oxygen and 5 minutes of my Life sharing my thoughts with this individual"
I would say most of the time it's ego
right š
Or rather, more specifically, one's inability to Accept they were wrong on a certain topic, and so they force theirs onto others until everyone agrees.
Well, there are two defendants before the lawyer and the judge, and how can we know which one is correct? so everyone has an opinion.. some blindly lie, some right.. but what is the measure of the concept of truth/truth?
It depends on the context unfortunately
Sometimes there's no right or wrong
Just what we define as truth
hmm i think the perception of reality is different for everyone
A good example is the endless war of religious people vs atheists
That's the key though, reality is one thing, and one thing only
But most of the time no one knows
Definitely
Because u only live ur reality
Which is reality+ur perception of it
Which is never quite reality itself
there were logically satisfactory answers on both sides
ur right
That's rly hard
When there's an evenly played out match in logic, people resort to ethics usually, which are also far too subjective to be a determining factor
That's what i was saying before
Religion vs non belief
I'm atheist
true and real are not the same if we are talking about philosophical terms
yes, this raises the question of what is the determining measure of ethical rules?
I'm just as wrong, because as much as they can't prove their "truth", neither can i, but a lot of atheists don't think about this, so they do the same Mistake religious people do
Societal influences+culture+hypocrisy
Any reasonable person would agree with the basic fact that we as a species, are unethical by nature
The only thing that got us here, is the fact that we Are more mentally developed, hence prone to Feel complex things like empathy, but everyone feels it to a different degree, while some, not at all
But when empathy, means reality, and the need of survival, u get the hypocrisy i was mentioning just a moment ago
and we come back to what you said at the beginning.. difference, contrasts, conflict...
Because if u're in a dire situation, u can't and won't prioritize empathy over ur survival, ethics are just a desperate attempt at deceiving our own perception of ourselves
It gives u this false hope that you are a good person, because society molds u around this "ethical code", but if u look in urself long enough, u know it's bullshit
Some stuff is undeniable tho, but i agree, i fucked up here, what i stated cannot be considered fully factual
It's definitely influenced by my very negative perception of reality
what about hypocrisy? Can you unpack this a little? i.e. to ppl have an ego? or
The hypocrisy I'm referring to is the basic human condition, in contrast to our "advanced" Society
Think about it, how many people, do u see, constantly claiming to be Good, with all their bullshit
hm
Oh i go for green energy, oh i do charity, oh i do this and that
And then, u take a look, and realize that out of 7+ billion people, less than 2.5 live this life we Know, thanks to the sacrifice of the other 4.5+ that live in inhumane conditions
So how good can u be when really u are in a lucky spot, that never forces u to go out of your way
its okay to have ego sometimes...from my experinced
so basically they are not as we perceive them or they are.. we can never know that.. unfortunately I can't read people's souls and feelings.. sometimes it's hard to read good or bad with their words.
And keep in mind, I'm telling you all of this without caring, i couldn't care less about these people I'm talking about, but atleast i don't claim to be Good when i know I'm just a lucky piece of shit
There are good people
What I'm saying is, good and bad are very childish concepts
If u look at reality, good people most of the time are good because they've been treated horribly in the past, or as i said, because their lucky situation lets them be
we all have good and bad sides ... dont matter
thats the mater of choices..
Some people Are worthless scum, but a lot of bad people are just individuals in a situation that forces them to act unethically to in order to survive, and lucky people like us, always have some "nice" Words to share, fully dressed with all of their hypocrisy, we All like to act high and mighty, but very few people can claim to be unconditionally good
matter*
Yeah that's where I'm getting at basically, good and bad isn't a real thing, it's a concept
we read it as psychological.. human impulses.. and for survival sometimes.
It's mostly a matter of circumstances and will power, if u can handle suffering without turning ugly urself, good for You, but most people fail miserably, myself included
This is just me answering ur question, Moon, not tryna lecture anyone, I'm a piece of shit as well, i just avoid lying by claiming to be good, since i know I'm neutral at best.
our past experiences , regardless , doesnt define us, its our choice to make,
choices*
Yeah, the ego Juleen is talking about, is good to have, almost necessary, i was referring to dumb people's ego
thats different ...
As i said, we Are most likely in no position to judge, a few traumatic events were enough to turn me into this mess of a person i am, imagine people with actual horrible lives. It's easy for us to say our past doesn't define us.
It's a bad habit, but it's better to acknowledge ur short comings, rather than lying to urself, don't You think?
Yes
goodness and evil.. what makes the good ones good, what makes the bad ones bad.. I believe this is very relative, so we shouldn't generalize
me personally i had dealth with people that , made me bad choices because i was fighting for my rights and protecting myself. and made me diffeent person, liked it for a while but just its not me, so tbh ,, im working on getting myself back. ive been playing dead, emotionless, and unconerned for a while... just i cudnt anymore.. coz just not me..
well this is real for you but not for me 
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i heard u with that.. when the trauma and pain,,, everything is too mcuh.. but we always have a choice
I won't speak on this, because i don't Know you, but saying people made you do bad stuff, is almost always a lie, it's usually still a choice, but u just blame others to Feel better about urself, but again, i don't Know you, so I'm in no position to judge.
That's the beauty u Talked about before
We Can disagree, but recognize we both have a reasonable point of view, and have a nice respectful conversation like this, i always like to talk about these topics, to see people's true colors.
life balance.. and thats how we learned
i hear you.. but to be clear ... i dont mean to blamed someone.. it was my choice .. so it was my mistake...
There is an example in which Freud is given through children. they all grew up in the same bad conditions... but they all became different people.some are doctors, some are swindlers, some are murderers, etc.
but i learned from it... and will always be learning ... we are just humans afterall... not an excuse tho
U know that better than anyone, i wasn't stating anything, i don't Know you, so i wouldn't dare disrespect you by just assuming stuff about you, i was just sharing a common thing that happens.
...
so this is acceptable , sorry for that
At least u take the time to work on yourself, u can be a piece of shit and work to become somewhat decent u know? Even better if u start off as a decent human already
Yeah humans are too unpredictable, too many variables
No need to apologize, i like You, you're just calmly debating with me
We both are being respectful to each other, u just seem to be a lot more positive than i am, which leads to some minor disagreements
aww girl! ur right..Only do best for you 
yes i need too.. ive been thru alot and only God knows wat else.. and made choices...
psychologically so haha āāyou read me well I can't deny
Then keep going, just work on urself until u feel u've reached a point where you are satisfied with the result
you two seems great
What do you mean
I would really like to know that.. so I can be predictive.. I'm not sure if this is possible under certain conditions..
Ofc it is
so you noticed my point of view
aw girl u2
If u put someone under an outstanding amount of stress, or if u endanger them to then point of them feeling threatened, u can usually predict basic behavioral responses, because during high pressure situations we tend to act more like animals
right 101% , tho i learned it the hard way...
now we understand how unique the differences are "but sometimes"..
Well that's the point of a Debate, i like your view, because it's more realistic, less negative, but i also know there's truth in my view, we Can both learn from each other, that's the key to this conversation
i.e. to be protected, or to close oneself to it.. I think it's instinctive yes
i dont mean to send that
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hey Mr. James
thank you thank you
U can predict other stuff as well, but I'm Not a psychologist, i don't Know the ins and out, but i know there are several different things u can predict with people, i said we Are too unpredictable, but the correct sentence would be, we Are predictably unpredictable, even in chaos there's a pattern, just like mental illnesses
it's like a paradox haha
Or maybe, going back to ur previous argument of "what's real at all?", maybe we believe it to be this Way because humans are just simply wired to find patterns, even when none are actually there
Ironically most things are paradoxes if u look at the human Psyche and its functioning
As i said, not being a psychologist, i can't say it for sure, but on a basic knowledge level, we Are a mixture
now i agree with you
We Are the result of a simple sum
Primitive brain+behavioural evolution shaped around modern society
well I don't think it's simple at all.. I believe we are very complex beings
humans are just complex being driven by different rulers/ rules..
Ur primitive part of the brain determines basic instinctive responses that help u deal with danger and survival, while the stuff u need to live in society, or atleast to live a civil life, is learned stuff, artificially structured patterns we developed to avoid behaving like animals in heat 24/7
As u said, paradoxes
Our complexity is partially caused by how simple we Are on a deeper level
Think about what i just said about the mixture
If u see a beautiful naked woman, the natural instinct is, breed, take control, get pleasure, reproduce, go Ahead, Repeat the cycle
U are inevitably gonna get an erection
So why don't You have sex with her? Because that would only work in a simple world, like the ancient one
strange sometimes
In today's society that would be rape
Which is a nono, regardless of ur ethics
So the responses we get, the reactions we Have, are still very simple, but we Are conditioned by our modern behavioral structures, that we need to keep a somewhat stable and ethical society(which we are not, but this is debatable), hence a simple reaction has to be processed with a complex system of mental processing, that's why we Are not beasts anymore
The thing is, we still are, we didn't lose the instincts, we just know better, and usually, avoid acting upon them, unless it's allowed by our modern rules
We can talk for hours on such matters.. I know that ideas give birth to other ideas.
Yeah i know, i just liked talking with you about these topics, I'm just giving u my opinions built around some facts that i know, but looking for a final solution is not realistic here
We discussed it for hours with the professor at the university haha.. human, human values, instincts source etc.
This was just a friendly Debate, I'm Sorry it eventually extended this much, but i appreciate ur interesting, respectful feedback
me too fr.. it was very nice.. i really enjoyed it..
Good for You, I'm 20, i just read some stuff, and shaped my opinions on some of the facts i know, and the behavioral patterns i noticed in myself and others, but i bet it feels nice to talk about stuff like this with actual professors, good for you.
catching up*
likewise me... I appreciate, satisfaction...
I'm glad it wasn't a bother, i hope i could give u at least some stuff to reflect on, and i hope u didn't feel any hostility or disrespect, it wasn't meant, if u did feel it.
seriously we argued so politely that i was about to cry lol and part of the conversation i said yes haha we agree
That's all That matters, it was a pleasurable experience on both ends, i also appreciated some of the interventions from @gusty thistle, anyways, good night, and ty for the Interesting convo
I have another friend and we talk to him like this for a long time I wish you to meet him hahah
I mean if he has discord we could all have a small voice chat debating some interesting topics like these, peacefully
Or just let him drop a few texts, idk, it could be fun
likewise and thank you,, i enjoyed reading ur convos, just hope i wasnt rude for the interventions..
ya all have. agood night..
Nope, u were very respectful, and some stuff i agreed with as well, i hope u had a good Time too, I'm Sorry if i was rude in any way, didn't mean to.
u were not , u just pointing out ur opinions, im an open minded person and i doint judge
its always good to hear other people opnions and experinces
Same goes for me, most of the time, have a good night then, maybe we'll interact again on this channel in the future.
mqybe , we will, u have a good night as well
Thank you
WC
Hello there everyone
agree. it would be a dystopia.
people may think they are on the right, and that they have the best of qualities (i may do as well), so having more of you means more success, but that's such a bad mistake. without the differences in mindset we may never complete one another, society heavily dysfunctional.
We kinda got there yesterday, during the small debate, but wouldn't you say society is already dysfunctional? It may look civilized on the surface, but i don't think it's functional
not talking about this kind of dysfunction, because in relation to what i am describing, is not as bad. it's a tradeoff, you get to have humans with different colors, but you pay for it with the existence of conflict. and let us think about this, if for example we have everyone be einstein, everyone as smart, and everyone with the same opinoins. where are the lawyers? the doctors? what if einstein hated working as a laborer, where are the laborers? how about if the one whose mindset we share is heavily disagreeable? that would create hell on earth. it's also a problem since my background is in ee and ai, so i will be giving an example here as well (:. in lots of machine learning methods, you create different models with different parameters and seek to find the one that gives you best results. had you initialized all of these models on the same parameters, do you have the same chance of getting the best model? not even close.
Yeah to be fair I'm Not trying to Argue in favor of this option, it was just a question, and i agree with it, as much as it's already dysfunctional, it would definitely get worse
But that's why i said what i said yesterday, i think depending on who Gets access to the device, and how long the effects last, it could be very interesting. Lemme see if i can find the msg
i see
But then again, it depends on how the device actually works.
If u could use it for just a brief moment to make the other person experience ur point of view and work towards a more rational Debate, as i just said, it would reduce the pointless headbutting between opinions that at times are just simply not worth considering.
But if the device was active over time, like a lingering effect, then it would simply be a mean to force ur view on others and obtain full consent and agreement on Your opinion that could very well be wrong, basically an alternative version of the nazi agenda.
A device that makes other people see things the exact same way u see them can be either a useful item to increase the quality of communication between opposite extremes, or absolute power over everything, a full mind-fuck that lets you "censor" any thought that's not in line with your view, and it All depends on how long the effects last for, and who is in charge of using it and when.
It was this one
not an effect that would go tho since the device works on altering neuron connections 
Ah see, that's why i was afraid yesterday, because i lacked the context of the conversation, nvm then, definitely a bad idea then
Not a device i'd suggest lol
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that device was just a way for me to tell the greater point. which is that, even if we get the best human, or what we think of as the human with the "best" capabilities (knowing that no single human is the best in all aspects), it would still be so bad to make everyone a copy of him.
Ah i see, yeah yesterday i lacked the general context, so i just answered the question moon answered to, thank you for the info
I'd say it's very hard to Argue such a point, it wouldn't go well for sure
it would be at least more functional without criminals like human trafficers etc, or addicts like alcoholics abusing their families and later their children getting lost in life, because so often they find it very difficult to comprehend the world and society if they were treated poorly in the past, i think
Regardless of personal capabilities, not everyone is socially capable as well, u might get a very efficient society that crumbles on a different aspect
The problem with this is what blur just said before, i agree with this point, and it was what i was trying to say, but blur is right, the trade off is not in our favor
Because yes, u wouldn't have criminals and such, but there wouldn't be a society evolved enough for You to even understand this, because it would inevitably crumble on itself, everyone would be Good at the exact same thing, which is very good for progress, but since everyone also has the same short comings, one single issue might destroy said society, it wouldn't look good is what I'm getting at, it would be an extremely efficient yet frail society.
I often read Pdf/epub books. Is there an application that I can export the points I highlighted and took notes on the book (I tried Moon+ Reader Pro, ReadEra, Google Play Books, eReader Prestigio, FBReader)?
you understand my point to an extreme extent, so, ||lets copy you||.
fr tho i would despise a society composed of my mindset, even though i think highly of myself. you'll get a society with no emotion as well. it would not be a life worth living. and all of us fall short at one aspect or another. if no one is there to fill that hole, we are doomed. also, "similar" does not mean "compatible" as i mentioned the "disagreeable person" point earlier.
I suppose the "lets copy u" Means u found ur old msg that started the convo, if that's the case ty for that, preciate it.
But yeah, that's definitely the end of the argument, and it's just the undeniable truth, it wouldn't work, not on paper, nor in real application, and ur point about the difference between similar and compatible is very good, it would be an issue
Most of the time you would have conflict even if u had the exact same mindset, because some people are just naturally disagreeable, depending on Your personality you could even be in more conflict than you'd be with a different person.
exactly
I hate Elon Musk for ruining twitter.
Twitter was already a hot mess before he came and bought it but yea he hasn't done much to fix any of the issues
ATLEAST I could browser twitter without an account.
Everything on web is getting so ruined

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helo here
Hello to you
how are you doing sir
hey guys
hi everyone
hey 23
Hi everyone
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Who wanna be friend with me? cause i wanna make foreigner friends. if you interested you can add me
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sure
Hi
Hi
Is anyone from it chat a polyglot?
Hi
hi 2
No greetings
Only serious talks
I brought the topic via meme
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Whatever is happening with them , good they deserve it.
They should learn from Poland
what happened in poland
as a polish person, ive no idea what you mean

Nothing happened because of their refugee policies
U know what is happening in France rn?
no
ah, right, i realized what u meant
we kinda dont accept everyone here, like sure we took a lot of ukrainian people but that was necessary cuz they are war immigrants
plus they are slavic so cultural assimilation is possible


Ik ik i heard one of the interview of ur president (or maybe some big political figure in ur country) related to this topic.
Does anyone actively use OneNote?
i used to for a short timespan
but i switched to Anki, it it way more intelligent, i use it for more than two years now and would recommend anyone who wants to note new vocab somewhere
i use it frecuently
i'm not an expert, but i have some experience
I've been using it for a long time. I want to create a personal Wiki. I don't like ready-made templates. How can I design it myself?
mmmm i'm not shure i have this level bro
i cant send you a picture
i wanted to show you my design
Hello
you can send bro
Who else working at night? š“
No, but for preschool ages we use cushions.
Primary ages, they just sit and any with ADHD are at the sides so they can also stand and be a teacher's helper
hello
Me but im studying
hello
hey guys, do you know what keyboard shortcut that use except alt+f8 to show password for email app in desktop windows 11 asus
@static pivot what do you study?
Still the bloody high school
its nice
college is much tougher and then job
It can be
Good, and u
Hello people, how do you guys make it today?
I sleep a lot in the morning cuz I work at night šµāš«
I'm already working, but studying is always fun š¤
Is it?
Nah bro
@vernal crypt hey you š
Hello.
Hello @twin needle
Hi, how are you?
I am good and you
thanks my friend, I'm new here.
Hmm welcome to the server
Now, I want to chat with people.
Then I am here
Yes, I see. I feel you are good man
Welcome my friend.
Hi Viv!
guess where I am from, I want to see you trying
India
German?
No
China?
China
no
Russia?
Earth?
no
I mean...
Yes
Ok mike
I give up
Turkiye?
no
Tell us where you hale from
Hmm
Ok, I'm from Saoudi Arabia
Indonesia
Oh Nice my muslim friend
That was my next guess
I'm not from earth
Mars? @vernal crypt
you shamed me.
Ok
I meant that I no longer know how to describe to you what is inside me
Oh okay
I think you are from India
Nope
No
No
Egypt
No
Iraq
No
Oh, nice to meet you
Hmm, I give up
I don't know š
Hamza wbu
that's a gorgeous name
you can called me "Mike" or "Saeed"
You can call me Saint š
My name is a normal name.
What do you think?
Maybe 18
no
Or 20
I will give you some answers
Hmm okay
20 - 21 - 22 - 23
21?
You think that?
Yeah
congratulations, that's the correct answer
hello
Yes, my age is 21
Hello @ember matrix
Hello
Nice š
and you, how old are you?
Guess
15-16-17-18-19-20
Oh my god
Which
No
Nope
No
15
I am 15 years old š
Yeah
in this way, you will have a wonderful future.
A language means a person
I hope
Take this advice. To be or not to be that's the question.
Yeah
I hope to see you fluent in Chinese as well
Thx for this advice
because you know the Most industries are now Chinese
You welcome.
Hmm
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I am thinking
Did I say something wrong?
No no
Oh.
I am just thinking
Forgive me, I'm a beginner so I thought I said something wrong
I understand you
Nice to hear that.
I'm having the same problem
Yeah
no, I see you fluently.
seems that this chat doesn't have a Brazilian lol š§š·
Yeah I am here
Thx but Unfortunately I am a beginner
Unfortunately
No no, you are not a beginner, you are a professional
sad
Thx bro but I don't know so much word
Yeah I am sad for you
Sad, however, i'm brazilian too
it's fine, I'm sure you will make English like your native language
from joinvile
Thx bro you too
wooo lets gooo
oohh santa catarina, nice
Well, my friend, I am glad to see you ,but I have to go to complete my studies
Ok bye
Ok
the server is for this too lol
Hey, hru
Good to jear that, I'm fine
so you r an indian just like me
@pearl roost yes, I am. Why?
What do u wanna know.
um anything ur hobbies , age , and something like that
I'm 19
I like reading books, listening music. I am a programer. Wbu
I am 16 ...I Iike to watch series and movies ...ummm nd i am a introvert so school sucks
nd gatherings nd all too
@pearl roost start talking to people, initialy it's hard. But u have to put in sime efforts to improove yourself
@pearl roost and time flies
Hi
How are you all
@thorny steeple yo
@thorny steeple I'm good hbu
Same
What's the topic
@thorny steeple nothing special
actually the thing is that i was an extrovert a year ago but i had a break up nd i was depressed or something....in 10th grade my marks fall too and i just want to score good marks in 11th nd idk how to be productive ...and idont want to go school ...i want to study at home ...but idk how to tell my parents
what a long para
hahha
@thorny steeple Run
?
@pearl roost U won't even remember that break up. After 5 yrs
U weren't saying anything so i said something random 
Hmm okay
@thorny steeple so are u a student
ik but now the main thing is study...i dont understand anything at school ...so its a waste of time...but yk in india u have to go school no matter what...i like studying from yt
Yeah I am student
Oh, me too
Nice
@thorny steeple What's your major
Science
Wbu
If u are able to study from yt then quit school. Otherwise don't
Are U in school ?
but my parents won't agree yk
i meet a sentence, which says "a nun on a run".
means, there is a nun (a woman of religious order) who is running.
shouldn't the sentence be "a nun in a run?"
maybe noo...its sounds right when its a nun on a run
so, which one is correct?
"a nun on a run" or "a nun in a run"?
Do u want to leave school because u don't like to be around with people. Or because they don't teach u well
for what reason that is correct?
they dont teach well ...its a expensive schl still teachers are bad
@pearl roost I can't give u any advice because i don't know u and Your bg. So u figure things out on your own.
@pearl roost btw good luck
a nun in a run ....in kinds of have the meaning' inside' ... a nun inside a run...it dont make sense ...a nun is running...it has a same meaning as a nun on a run..
ohhhh
sad to hear that
No
@pearl roost well u need to figure things out on your own. Maybe the thing which might work for me. Won't work for u
hmm thats right
well do u wanna be a frnd ?
well, informative enough. to know more, what kind of theory is that?
Sure, why not
idkš ..i just said whatever was coming into my mind
ohkay..lets talk on dm ..if u are comfortable or something
Mmm but only for 15 mins not longer than that
umm lets talk after an hour ...i am in middle of something
Ok
Hello guys
Im from Brazil and I want to study in Australia
I have a intermediary level of English
I can talk. But not much fluently
Any advice?
I have e Australian friends
And im in a aussie server
Because I already want to know the slangs both irl and net ones
ta ok

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I would suggest prepping for a Cambridge exam.
Firstly you could test online to see what your levels are for:
Reading/writing/
Listening
There are loads of free materials online to help you prep, but you might consider having a teacher help.
Read!!
Highlight new words
Practice using them
Writing practice too.
Thks mate
I took English classes in elementary school but they weren't good. But I attended private classes which really helped me and the material was all in English and there were conversation classes. In high school I had classes at a much better school, unfortunately it was in another city and I couldn't take private classes because it was a full-time school on some days or there was much homework as is both a technical school and a regular one
I can understand complex speech
But saying is difficult also my accent is very strong as I my state has a very unique one
@vernal crypt are you british?
No, American. I'm an English teacher.
Why Euro role?
You live in Uk?
i think his is comunista
I live in Europe
Playing mk
Rg
Are you Turk

Why?
Because You cursed
Mk==curse
Mortal Kombat 
What

what
Can you give me ways how to practice writing? I really want to try writing a blog but dunno how to start to learn it
when do u wanna go to australia?
do u wanna the grammarly program?
I use this program and it's really good, they correct the sentences and words when u type/write in English
Yea, I used grammarly sometimes but I think it makes me more confused š
kkkkkk that's fair
I don't have in mind another program to practice writing
I will try to explore it more š
share with me when u finddd
At least a year from now. I haven't bought the trip package yet
I think maybe I'll wait for two years to acquire knowledge, fluency in English and of course money
@ember matrix ah vc Ć© br
A gente pode falar em portuguĆŖs aqui?
that's fair
Eu to estudando sobre
u're gonna have more practice when u live there because the routine
simm
Eu quero ir pra lĆ” pq Ć© um lugar bom de trabalhar
E estudar
DÔ pra juntar dinheiro lÔ enquanto estudar ou não?
@ember matrix
então, eu nao sei como é o visto europeu
eu acho garantido comeƧar a trabalhar pra ganhar euro e entao estudar
@thorny steeple
Eu quero ir pra AustrƔlia
NĆ£o europa
ata kkkkkkk viajei entao
I would start by reading other blogs to get an idea of the structure.
Always keep a dictionary and thesaurus nearby; tools for all writers.
There are other tools that teachers and students use to help with grammar:
A grammar book called Grammar in Use
By
Raymon Murphy
This is a practical guide through English grammar, offering examples and practice.
You're welcome to add me as a friend and share snippets (examples) of your work any time.
Cheers!š»
Snippets, I've never heard someone use that word before lol.
Definitely not everyday lingo
Nice flex tho lol
You gotta use words that are more ubiquitous, ya know ? UwU
british obvs
there are people from everywhere, america included
ok


