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sterile apex
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let's go!!!!

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ms Peo,
i've to go to the bed, now.
it's 4. AM here.
gn

pure copper
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from TV just now, but omg wtf designed the height chart?

pure copper
sterile apex
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i'm so tired

pure copper
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Well sleepy for u then

pure copper
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A breakthough in the project, Team! Its likely that we do not need to search for raised ink, as we may be able to use differences in the paper line imaging itself to detect absorbed ink that may show differently to the clear areas. Are you ready Steve, Andy, Mick, alright Let's go....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pYpii2Atg

Brian Connolly - lead vocals
Andy Scott - guitar, synthesizer, vocals
Steve Priest - bass, vocals
Mick Tucker - drums, percussion, vocals

The recording was produced by Phil Wainman.

The song was written by Mike Chapman and Nicky Chinn

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Canada: 1
Denmark: 1
Ireland: 1
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sour gate
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use typescript instead javascript my friend, your problems will gone

ebon yacht
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Good morning gays

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ops guys

ebon yacht
restive dawn
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Or simply use typescript

sterile apex
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gm guys

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wow~

pure copper
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I must admit, the use of type was a bad choice for the example

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if (Large && comfortable) then Print("hello") vs

if not large return;
if not comfortable return;
print("Hello");

pure copper
sterile apex
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it's late night there

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🤔

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u have to relax for your health

pure copper
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missed all the action. The team is meeting and got the git going ang roles allocated. Constipated Mathematicians are working it out with their pencils etc

sterile apex
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sorry to hear that

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it's bad news

pure copper
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but we kept a seat free for u

sterile apex
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🤨

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also me?

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uhh~~~

pure copper
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need someone to run the show when I am on the dark side of planet

sterile apex
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mean me?

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but unfortunately i have to work from 9.30 AM

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😭

pure copper
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We are literally on diametrically opposite sides of the planet

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nearly

shy glade
pure copper
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They just don't understand. More cases form conceppt

pure copper
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its only friday

sterile apex
pure copper
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and :wq if you want to save

pure copper
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Sat sun only

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Fri is last day of 'week'

sterile apex
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i heard in aus, the weekend starts with Fri's afternoon.

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lol

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i was wrong

sterile apex
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🫣

shy glade
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@brave pond I'm here

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For some reasons I'm deleting this account and leaving server

warm pebble
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or use Nano

ebon yacht
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So tell why

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Why am I such a freak?
You're outta your mind (oh my, oh my)
Who the fuck are you to judge me?
And I told you I'd be different
And I told you I was wild
You're stuck in denial
Yeah, I think that maybe you're the freak

shy glade
# warm pebble They could just reboot it :D

Bruh, it was a joke.
There are plenty of things you can do if you're stuck in an application, if you're using a desktop environment like Plasma or Gnome you can simply terminate the terminal app.
Not to mention you logging out.

sour gate
ebon yacht
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Muito gay

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Mas descolado

shy glade
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Good afternoon friends

remote delta
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Hello everyone.

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I am web developer.

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I find new job.

pure copper
remote delta
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I am looking for a new job.

pure copper
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Then, good luck in your quest

remote delta
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Thanks.

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Nice to meet you.

pure copper
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I just spent 2 hours shopping for a cable adaptor to plug a mic into my dumb laptop. I've already used 3 adaptors to get it to something that looks possible, but was missing a 4 pole for the laptop. So I bought that, and the mother still doesn't work without jiggling it about (and that was after 3 hours of reading 10 years of don't buy an HP computer as the plug doesn't do anything, and the HP support say, buy an adaptor. mfmfmfmfmfmf. After finally getting a line in from my phone, I could hear some sound, but all are crap, so I'm going to buy a new computer, and give this back mf 1 yr old gaming piece of junk from HP.

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Then, while I was at the electronics shop, I bought a new power toggle switch for my Guitar amp. Do you think I could just pull, it out from the surface, like all the rocker switches are designed to do. It took 15 minutes to lever it out, and it still wouldn't budge. So I then started removing the back screws dozens, and the board would not come out. In the end I removed every screw that was visible and the mf wouldn't open until I dropped it on the ground and got the start of a crack I could lever it apart with. Then the wires wont come off the witch, cvause its so short, and is probably soldered on rather tha clipped. So thats all over the floor now, and I'm going to cook a steak.

pure copper
remote delta
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Where are you from?

sterile apex
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hi everyone~!~!~

violet shuttle
sterile apex
violet shuttle
violet shuttle
sterile apex
pure copper
sterile apex
atomic ocean
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sup man

severe cradle
pure copper
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no, just in class

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5 minutes to chinese new year 🥳

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为了我的朋友,友谊地久天长。 新年快乐

severe cradle
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恭喜发财

wary torrent
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Happy new year bro

sterile apex
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Happy new year, chinese guys

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🎉

ebon yacht
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Happy new year

sterile apex
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👍

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perfect class

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it's amazing~~~~

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"u.s-iran"

river hill
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hello everyone

ebon yacht
river hill
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here

restive dawn
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Hello fellow kids

broken dove
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Hey everyone

pure copper
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Channel dementia setting in. Starts with hi, hru then silence

karmic snow
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shysmile then do something to break the silence

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||use break statement||

pure copper
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if (!chat) return \\ to something more meaningful in life 😦

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(Guard condition as recently described by Flare)

pure copper
# sterile apex i heard in aus, the weekend starts with Fri's afternoon.

15 years ago or more, workers went to lunch and drank lots of beer and never returned to work, so effectively it was deescribed as starting the weekend on Friday afternoon. However with all the Health and Safety legislation that now means companies get sued very easily for any safety concern, an incident involving alcohol is just too easy to prosecute. So they do random alcohol testing at many companies, and people don't drink at lunch, so they end up returning to work, and the weekend starts on Saturday, as its only 2 days Sat and Sun. (The whole story doesn't make sense, as if they drink they still don't return, so they don't get tested, so the weekend still starts on Friday.... But they cant go back at 4:55 to sign out and get paid so that's the issue)

shy glade
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lol

shy glade
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What do you think about using the term "engineering" in the fields of computer science, such as the title "software engineer" etc...?

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I mean, some people say it's not real engineering, therefore you shouldn't use that term, 'cause it's sort of reserved for certain people.

pure copper
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Years ago, it basically was applied to roles that worked with programming involving a closer tie to the hardware, whereas programmers/analysts did more business related programming. As a computer industry person, one should know that a software engineer does not necessarily hold an 'Engineering' degree, but probably works in an environment closer to hardware development, such as aerospace, robotics etc.

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@shy glade

shy glade
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Some companies call their programming employees "software engineers", such as Microsoft, others like Google, call them developers, so it's kind of confusing when one thinks about it for some time.

pure copper
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Web developers should not consider thenselves as stack or half stack or any stack. They should be able to work on all aspects of ' the stack' and more. To me its like learning how to program and learning only input() and print() and saying I'm a front end programmer, and saying one day I'll be a full programmer, but loops and conditions are to scary and too advanced for me.

shy glade
# pure copper Web developers should not consider thenselves as stack or half stack or any stac...

I agree, I hear a lot of people say I'm a Front-end dev while they only code in HTML, and CSS. xD
Just to clarify, I'm not downplaying HTML, and CSS, obviously, and honestly some people consider HTML a declarative programming language (similar to SQL, those are programming languages that instruct what to do, instead of how to do it), but I'm just saying that in modern day Front-end, you have to be fluent in more languages and technologies than only HTML and CSS in order to be at least considered at the minimum level of skill.

pure copper
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Game developers may be using mathematics etc, but they are really just learning how to use advanced graphical libraries that were written by folks in the years past. Sure there are always ongoing enhancements, and the industry is potentially exciting, and one would think, I get to make little people move on the screen. I se it as simulation software, which ofc can be used for more than just games. I think people should consider looking at a bigger range of companies, who would be working in just as complex simulation and operational software, but isn't aimed specifically at roman empire historians, as there are plenty of games available and its easy for those companies to go bust quickly and lay off the staff. The location of such big companies that you would expect to last are rare to find and scattered across the earth, but there is a high probability you don't live next to Steam or EA . As a starter in the industry its going to be hard to waste a year or more trying to apply for work overseas especially in countries that hate immigrants. Again, mining, aerospace, manufacturing are all good places to get into high tech simulation control software that will be just as interesting and much easier to access closer to where one lives.

shy glade
# pure copper Game developers may be using mathematics etc, but they are really just learning ...

I see, I agree with most of what you're saying, except the point that they use advanced graphical libraries that were written in the past. Although I believe it's a good idea to kind of try to reinvent the wheel, as it can offer a valuable insight of the underlying processes, but the point is, there is no field in the world where people do things from scratch, it's always gonna be a cumulative effort built on top of previous ones. The point about game dev that I was trying to make is that, they do use a plethora of engineering-specific laws and principles, game developing has aspects where the developer build a complete physics system based on real physical laws and forces, or at least achieving a very similar effect to how physical laws work.

pure copper
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I guess you would have to see what is available as the business's library set within any organization, to then see how much physics and movement you really need to program, or that which just needs to be configured.

shy glade
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Front-end also kind of work on things that involve some skills in geometry.
Back-end has things like database and architecture designs.
Not to mention performance measurement and architecture design that is in almost all the fields of computer science, so I believe at least most of the computer science fields are actually engineering to some extent, and therefore it's completely valid to use the title "software engineer".

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That's my opinion.

pure copper
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Also, one would be in a team responsible for a sub set of all of the software, and would be developing the features for that. Its is probably a misconception that one would get a job in a game software dev company and do everything and produce the full end product. I think this is a misconstrued fantasy. Sure you may need to plug it into the test versions of the game and see someone jump in the working game with the latest formulae you coded, but like any trade, a potential gf/bf would probably be very unimpressed with the knowledge that you programmed a foot to look twisted after a character sprains the ankle. Just like a plumber does nice pipe layout and soldering or an electrician lays out a wonderful neat loom of cables. Its lost on people that are not part of the industry. But it is still exciting, I don't deny that.

shy glade
# pure copper I guess you would have to see what is available as the business's library set w...

It's true that you most probably find some sort of physics system already implemented for you in the game engine or the framework you're intending to use, and you find a lot of other useful tools that save you a ton of work, but at the end of the day, real game devs would be able to implement those anyways, the purpose of those ready-made tools and "libraries" is to facilitate the development so that you focus more on other aspects of your work, rather than reinventing the wheel, even if you're able to.
So my point is that, they are as much of engineering as any engineering field, all of them involve planning, designing, and building the software.

pure copper
pure copper
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that is what I was talking about with teams working on subsets of software. They are all classes and libraries of such.

shy glade
pure copper
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What level of class you are woreking on is up to the business when they stick you in a team. You then program and test the enhancements t the libraries, and they then flow throughto users of those libraries in their programming tasks, semmlessly implemented (hopefully)

shy glade
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printf(software_engineer == software_developer) // true
cosmic sand
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hi

shy glade
shy glade
pure copper
cosmic sand
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are we talking about software engineer vs software developer?

shy glade
shy glade
cosmic sand
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ahh I see

pure copper
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Once you get in the job, you are handed a task, and you start working on it, then move on to the next. It may involve coding, specing, or testing or all for the one little task you are given. Your work then incorporates into the bigger system, so it needs to work, or it suffs up all the dependent systems.

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I think Flare and I both agree yes

shy glade
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The topic is honestly of no benefit whatsoever. I don't even know why did I raise it. 😂

cosmic sand
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haha

shy glade
cosmic sand
pure copper
pure copper
shy glade
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Thx 🙂

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i'm trying

pure copper
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why so sad

cosmic sand
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imo engineers has more responsibilities

pure copper
shy glade
pure copper
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Using Float 4 instead of float 8 has just as bad consequences for a financial program as it does for a GPS navigation system

pure copper
cosmic sand
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In my experience when I was working as a developer I used to solely focus on developing the application mostly coding. But when I started working as an engineer I have to get involved in all stages in SDLC.

shy glade
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cheer up dude

pure copper
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Just realized why I couldnt see the screen so well. Wrong glasses

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🙅‍♀️

shy glade
pure copper
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If you work in a big dev team, you stay closer to one role, and if you work in small teams, you may need to get involved in a lot more. Not every company can pay for designers and testors and architects. Somethimes you just get that little system and become the guru.

shy glade
pure copper
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its the old google or microsoft title again

native prism
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Ayy yo, something of my interest

shy glade
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That's why I said they are distinguishing factors.

pure copper
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so , no to a junior, but a couple of years you could end up in a stand alone dev/ all job

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depends on company again. Be willing to work for 20 person companies where you become the IT department

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networks, help desk, programming, design, purchasing ots

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coffee maker

shy glade
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lol

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coffee

pure copper
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its true

cosmic sand
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correct me if I'm wrong but when I was a developer I would use the programming language that I know to develop an application. But as an engineer I would need to decide programming language, tools basically the components should be used for making it cost efficient.

shy glade
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Startups need to hire senior level developers, whereas enterprise companies might don't need to do this all the time.

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I think it is depends on perspective

pure copper
shy glade
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because why it is a hot topic

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Was that a vague answer?

pure copper
native prism
cosmic sand
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engineers should focus on maitaining the app in the future in a cost efficient way

shy glade
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I think we can agree on one thing, we programmers are horribly bad at setting coherent titles. 😂

native prism
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We engineer a product and develop it

pure copper
cosmic sand
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not programming language but protocol, gRPC, RESTful, GraphQL

shy glade
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That's more of a generic term for it.

native prism
pure copper
# native prism SW Engineering is superset of development i guess

I am saying its just the luck of the draw when you get your first job. Do they call you a programmer, a developer or software engineer. It all is just entry level computing first up. The 'prestige' is artificial and is like the rivalry between Engineering/Science students vs Arts students in any university

shy glade
cosmic sand
cosmic sand
native prism
pure copper
shy glade
cosmic sand
pure copper
native prism
shy glade
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hello wellcome

cosmic sand
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GraphQL was faster for the design that we had. We just had to query stuff that we need and dont waste any computation on retrieving the stuff that we dont need from the data store.

shy glade
pure copper
shy glade
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Impressive

pure copper
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hi

native prism
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Hey

heavy river
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hi

cosmic sand
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hi

shy glade
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Hello my friend, that's great! ✨

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I use Lua to configure my Neovim.

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hello everyone

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wellcome

pure copper
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hi

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hi

shy glade
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It's a great language.

pure copper
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conversation dementia

cosmic sand
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is it difficult to switch from web dev to ml or datascience - anybody done that?

shy glade
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hmm

shy glade
# shy glade Hello my friend, that's great! ✨

I also use Python, it really shins the most for me when used for automation and scripting (scripting is a form of programming where you write a code that does a specific task for you on your PC, such as organizing system files).

pure copper
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I may have to go to bed early, as I have to work on a Windows/door tomorrow. The border has come away from the background glass, and I'll need to use some development tools such as a rubber mallet to fix it and test it.

shy glade
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byebye

pure copper
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I said early.. not necessarily now

shy glade
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so i think it would be verry hard

cosmic sand
pure copper
cosmic sand
pure copper
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ANother hard part, is just finding an employer, doing the work you want to be involved in, close to where you are located. If you are happy to apply long distance, and then move there if you get a job/visa, thats good. But most people are fixed to their home town and family in their first years of work

cosmic sand
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cracking the interview can be done after some hit and trails but what after getting hired. I worry if all the time invested on that will the be worth it. This is what thats holding me back currently.

pure copper
# cosmic sand thank Peo, that makes sense.. However I wonder how much effort does it take to f...

If you are good at coding, that environments and languages are not going to be an issue. The hard part then is getting to understand the business processes, what the company does, and what all their internal terminology means. If you work for an agricultural industry for example, people are going to be talking about genus and species etc, and these will appear in the applications. Its not all that difficult, but its the bit that makes you uncomfortable. The programming etc, is going to be the same as the last place, unless you are now also learning a new language. The other big dev problem is learning the structure of the class libraries and how the primary applications are built and hang together, and where and what the database looks like etc. You need to ask people lots of questions to get to know the system. you have to ask lots of questions to find documentation to tell you also, and you have to ask questions to find out who to ask. eventually you get settled in.

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8 days exactly

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I assume you have done some sort of uni degree? maybe/

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raj

cosmic sand
cosmic sand
pure copper
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Get into it when you are starting. They do not expect you to be an expert. However if you stay in your current position too long, you suffer from being thought of as whatever you've been doing, and not flexible enough to change. Then you really will be trapped. Also tech changes every few years, so if you stay in one position/env with a company, you may become unskilled to move into any new positions, so you need to do work on the side for yourself on leading edge tech, and also be willing to change companies or at least positions every few years. Once you become known as a 'xxx' language person, and something new has been around for a while, you won't get into that without being able to say. I do that also.

cosmic sand
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In this profession we surely need to keep ourselves updated with latest tech

pure copper
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I have worked for over 45 companies in my career in around 10 different industries, holding all types of roles, both computer termed and other, and the personal learning at home was essential in the transition interviews between businesses.

cosmic sand
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yeah that makes sense... side project for personal growth is always good thing.

pure copper
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from the archives of this channel

cosmic sand
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haha

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is everyone else asleep or are they all just lurking at our conversation?

pure copper
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looks like a good moment to shutdown.

cosmic sand
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🙂 same here

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nice taking to you and thanks for the advise Peo

sterile apex
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HI, guys

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HI, @shy glade

shy glade
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Hi dude

sterile apex
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chinese holiday!

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lol

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but why are u here, @shy glade ?

versed hare
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is there is someone who is rly interested in CTF ?!

shy glade
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here is my home

sterile apex
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what?

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don't celebrate holiday?

shy glade
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i already celebrated

sterile apex
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I guessed u would be with your GF.

sterile apex
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no?

shy glade
sterile apex
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OMG~

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how old are u, bro

shy glade
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i born at 1997

sterile apex
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but r u single?

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😿

shy glade
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for now.

sterile apex
shy glade
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👍

sterile apex
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asleep now?

shy glade
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as I understanding she have task at tomorrow, so she go to bed early

empty rock
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hi im mariem im 17 years old im from tunisia i like coding and im learning python , html , css , javascript and i just start learning data base

shy glade
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hello! wellcome!

empty rock
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so what languages are u leaning ?

ebon yacht
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J A V A

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arctic root
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have anybody tried prolog before or any logic language

shy glade
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I played around with it a bit

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Nothing big

shy glade
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Good morning friends

river hill
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good morning

pure copper
shy glade
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I haven't tried it but really like the idea of prolog dbs

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Datalog and all

severe cradle
true sorrel
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who is using any Linux/BSD os (I'm using Arch BTW). 🗿

cosmic sand
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BSD?

true sorrel
cosmic sand
cosmic sand
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what do you use Arch for?

mighty robin
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arch has one usecase, to be flexed about

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apart from that, its entirely useless

pure copper
pure copper
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Now where is that.. oh ofc, front and centre.

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Hey, that's quite fun. I might write a prolog interpreter. I think I'm having flashbacks.

sick shuttle
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Hi @pure copper Pleased to meet you again

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Hope you enjoy your weekend

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But seems like you are busy with your coursework

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How can I help you?

pure copper
# sick shuttle How can I help you?

I am about to build a prolog command parser, using C++ and building a pointer tree structure to then process the statements at a later stage. Any suggestions?

shy glade
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good evening everyone~

karmic snow
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@quiet vale

quiet vale
karmic snow
sick shuttle
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Hi @pure copper Lets chat using DM

pure copper
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Here is always good

pure copper
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The text in that book is like 7 point font

shy glade
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Phew... English conversation makes me too nervous...

sick shuttle
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Hi @pure copper Perhaps impolite question, could you tell me how old you are? I just wanna know whether you are a high school student or a college student

pure copper
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i'm grad,senior

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wbu

sick shuttle
pure copper
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Peo is what people call me here

sick shuttle
pure copper
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its the internet. Peo works for me.

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lots of stalkers. its dangerous

sick shuttle
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I can't understand why you think it is dangerous if you share your name with others, can others steal your name? or can they do something illegal with your real name? There are hundreds of people with the same name in the world, I think you are two nervous

pure copper
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I am unique in my part of the world

sick shuttle
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Additionally, I like calling others with their real name, if I use nick name or something like that, I tend to forget them after sometime, and calling with real ones give you a feeling of ... close friendship

sick shuttle
pure copper
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There are a few people working here to do the same. They are progressing well, with Peo

shy glade
pure copper
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including NN

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good friend

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at least talks tech with me

sick shuttle
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That belongs to others cases, how can we be a good friend even without knowing real name? @pure copper Can we jump on a quick call?

pure copper
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no calls

sick shuttle
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Wow

shy glade
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Do not impose.

sick shuttle
shy glade
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to everyone

pure copper
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You should do some research. I must get back to my readings

sick shuttle
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Research about what?

shy glade
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wrong transrate

pure copper
shy glade
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I believe that if someone expresses their opinion, we should respect it.

sick shuttle
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My study is to understand you @pure copper

shy glade
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what about java

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now i'm studying SpringBoot

sick shuttle
pure copper
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but its also stalkish. This isn't a dating server

gleaming geode
shy glade
sick shuttle
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Ah, I am not flirting you, I just tried to know nothing more than your name

pure copper
shy glade
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loool

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i miss

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i though AHDAD started at yesterday

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miss reading : )

gleaming geode
sick shuttle
shy glade
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loool

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Embarrassing

pure copper
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general English

shy glade
pure copper
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mistakes happen

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Even I get mixed with the today, tomorrow, in my language studies

shy glade
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Is there any expression that represents laugh sound instead lol(loool, llllloool...)?

plush parrot
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@pure copper you the owner of programming chan

pure copper
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no

plush parrot
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Yes

pure copper
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just type here, althoygh some think that because I type too much

plush parrot
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This your home

plush parrot
shy glade
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lmao

pure copper
plush parrot
pure copper
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That's great. I'm glad some people write fun little programs

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Its a mini challenge

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Finding an idea is alwways the hardest

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Building it in the best way is the next challenge

plush parrot
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Yes Im kinda hobbyist but have many projects done and more just as concepts

hollow zenith
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sup guys i was learning HTML & css tell me what you think of this project :

shy glade
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lamo

pure copper
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I need to read a lot, before I commit to things, unfortunately. But prsently PLC is on the board. Just got to find out what is the best to start with before investing $ in it. Also need an idea to build with it

shy glade
pure copper
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Thanks for the warning

shy glade
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no you have to try it

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it's fun

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good to see Rick

hollow zenith
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but ong guys i made the whole project not just the rickroll

plush parrot
shy glade
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wow cool

plush parrot
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Video a bit blurry though

shy glade
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That's ok to see in small size.

plush parrot
plush parrot
shy glade
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👍

plush parrot
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I used pygame

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It's not an original game concept though

hollow zenith
#

you just know python or more ?

plush parrot
#

I know basic c++, and more Java, I made some android apps too

hollow zenith
#

wow cool man

#

keep on

plush parrot
#

What about you

hollow zenith
#

just finshed HTML & CSS

#

next stop is JAVA 💀

plush parrot
#

Good

#

You planning to be android dev?

plush parrot
shy glade
#

lmao

#

It's enough

hollow zenith
#

for now i find the web developing funny to learn and easy

plush parrot
#

Yes, you should do what you find more fun and interesting

shy glade
#

The interest to keep studying is most important whatever you learn

shy glade
#

👍

plush parrot
#

That's when motivation arises, and in programming you need to be very motivated

hollow zenith
plush parrot
gleaming geode
shy glade
#

To sleep or not To sleep. That is the question

#

but not sleepy

plush parrot
pure copper
#

But why 22 children?

shy glade
#

-64

plush parrot
gleaming geode
plush parrot
gleaming geode
pure copper
plush parrot
shy glade
#

Oh... It's 3:15 AM... i gotta sleep.
See you later guys

plush parrot
pure copper
#

Me 2

#

Bye

gleaming geode
versed hare
#

guys is there is someone interested in decryption and hash

empty rock
sterile apex
#

guys?

#

😭

violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

anyone here?

#

eellooooooou~~~

violet shuttle
#

How do u do?

plush parrot
#

@sterile apex are you a pro

sterile apex
sterile apex
sterile apex
plush parrot
#

No, I meant protein

violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

lol

#

no, i'm not a pro

#

prometheus

plush parrot
#

Everyone is a pro at something

violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

lol

plush parrot
sterile apex
sterile apex
violet shuttle
sterile apex
plush parrot
violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

😁

#

u love wine?

#

and canddy?

#

🤨

violet shuttle
violet shuttle
violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

um.. only canddy for wine?

violet shuttle
#

U read my description, aren't u?

sterile apex
violet shuttle
#

Usually it's a liquor

sterile apex
sterile apex
#

send me one

#

🍷

violet shuttle
#

Lol

#

I'll try

#

I don't know, where I can buy it😅

sterile apex
#

whttttt?

#

but u said u loved it

#

🤨

#

oh it was just imagination?

violet shuttle
#

Yes, I love it. But I get it as a gift

#

Soooooo

violet shuttle
#

My relatives

sterile apex
#

i thought ....

#

lol

#

btw, what is your major?

#

and may i have ur age?

violet shuttle
sterile apex
violet shuttle
violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

next monday

sterile apex
#

sounds intereting

#

polish?

#

or ukrainian?

#

or umm,.,

#

russian?

violet shuttle
#

Ur close

#

Belarusian

sterile apex
#

i was almost done

violet shuttle
#

Ur surround me by my neighbors 😂

sterile apex
violet shuttle
#

U forgot about Lithuania

sterile apex
#

may i surround u by my arms?

#

lol

violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

👍

#

let's return our major

#

i wanna learn ai

#

deeper than now

violet shuttle
#

I wanna too, but I'm noob with my major

#

Lol

sterile apex
violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

lol

violet shuttle
#

It's not my thoughts

#

It's a sad true

sterile apex
#

cheer up yourself

#

i was like u when i had started my major

#

if u spend more and more time in your major,

#

u would be a pro

#

🎉

#

then we'll celebrate it

violet shuttle
sterile apex
#

i'm 32 years old

#

and i have got 7 years experience in my major

#

but i dont think i'm not a pro

violet shuttle
#

I'm serious and I don't have low self-esteem

mighty robin
#

belarusian?

violet shuttle
violet shuttle
sterile apex
mighty robin
#

my grandparents were belarusians, they escaped the war to poland, and now am polish speaking polish even tho my ancestors are belarusians

mighty robin
#

yes

sterile apex
mighty robin
#

i even have belarusian family name, while i speak 0 russian

violet shuttle
violet shuttle
mighty robin
#

no

violet shuttle
#

Sad

mighty robin
#

i speak polish, cuz i was raised in poland

#

all i know about belarus is Minsk

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and protests few years ago

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and my own family name

violet shuttle
mighty robin
#

lmao yeah thats common

#

i learned to read russian, actually, like the cyrillic

#

belarusians write in this too i think

mighty robin
violet shuttle
#

I had read a letter in polish and I understood the sense. My eyes were O.O

violet shuttle
#

like my nickname

mighty robin
#

zbić means to take a pawn in chess in polish

#

zbić pionka = take a pawn (in chess)

violet shuttle
#

But my nickname isn't about chess🤣

mighty robin
#

smacny looks like smaczny

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which means tasty

violet shuttle
#

That's right

mighty robin
#

zbićjeń makes no sense to me

#

lmao

violet shuttle
#

zbićjen is a bear from honey

mighty robin
#

ohhh

#

I would not have guessed that

violet shuttle
#

I thought u have smth like this🤔

mighty robin
#

possibly, i cant recall anything similar

violet shuttle
#

I look at it in dictionary

mighty robin
#

do you hate poland in belarus lol

violet shuttle
#

Lol, I lied. It's not a bear, but it is made from honey

mighty robin
violet shuttle
mighty robin
violet shuttle
#

Poland has a big Belorussian diaspora

violet shuttle
mighty robin
violet shuttle
#

We get a lot of help from u

violet shuttle
#

U can start to learn, if u want.

mighty robin
#

nice to hear

#

honestly for me its like, uhhh, i really dislike how this world works you know

#

i dislike that there are wars and that people hate each other

violet shuttle
#

I see

mighty robin
#

for me everyone is a good person even if theyre russian (cuz war right), i dont mind the nationality as long as they are friendly and safe

violet shuttle
#

It makes sense

#

I agree with u

mighty robin
#

thanks, tbh i think that polish generally dont really know much about belarus, we know only the protests from few years ago

#

and now polish media usually portray belarus very very negatively (cuz łukaszenka is hated here)

violet shuttle
#

We had a difficult relationship in the past and I'm glad that polish stayed positive to our people now. We really need ur support

mighty robin
#

i support everybody as long as theyre not crazy i guess. like i would not like anybody to suffer, or die, no matter where theyre from, we live in the 21st century and humanity should be too developed to fight itself

mighty robin
violet shuttle
#

Lol

mighty robin
#

it terrifies me that there are people who want to kill others

#

there are many more pleasurable activities in life to indulge in, other than homicide or genocide

violet shuttle
#

People are different. Smb really wants to kill, smb wants to get money in all ways. Smb appeared in difficult situation. So I can understand the reasons of war

mighty robin
#

comfort is comfortable

violet shuttle
#

Ahahah, I agree

mighty robin
#

deaths and catastrophies are not cozy lol

violet shuttle
#

What are u studying in CS?

mighty robin
#

am not in university right now, am a hobbyist

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hobbyist in linux and javascript

#

so i dont really even work in IT yet, i just code for fun and mess around with linux and stuff

violet shuttle
#

How many Linux do u try?

mighty robin
#

oh, how many distros?

violet shuttle
violet shuttle
mighty robin
#

not that many to be honest. I currently just stay at linux mint xfce, but i have tried debian, ubuntu, arch, and some smaller ones like puppy linux

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and other tiny ones like lubuntu

violet shuttle
#

Ahahah, you've tried more than me

mighty robin
violet shuttle
#

I've tried Ubuntu and Mint. Now I'm using Fedora

violet shuttle
mighty robin
#

i didnt say i aim to be one

#

i just like to play with stuff

violet shuttle
#

I see

mighty robin
#

and sometimes its useful to have additional knowledge about things. Some python devs also need to know some js in case theyre demanded to implement web features, everything depends on the company. Knowledge is good

violet shuttle
#

I need to get a work in this year, so I speak from an employee position

mighty robin
#

ah i see, youre planning to work in belarus in IT?

violet shuttle
violet shuttle
mighty robin
empty rock
#

What other languages should i learn to be a front end dev except (HTML CSS JS)

violet shuttle
#

And I need to create a portfolio. Good thing, that I have time.

violet shuttle
mighty robin
#

web dev is filled with libraries and frameworks

empty rock
#

Ohh i thought that the frameworks make it easy for developper

mighty robin
# violet shuttle I'm deeply stuck

Oh, well, I wish you the best then. There is always something for you somewhere - maybe you just dont know where yet. I believe in your luck

#

well... they make the process quicker, but because of their existence, there is more to learn

empty rock
#

Oh got it

#

Thanks

#

I just learned html css and quite good at js so im just wondering if i Can get an online "job" ,freelance or smth to make money with it. or i should learn other stuff to be able to have a work online .

#

Im 17 btw

violet shuttle
#

For freelance u need more than html and css

#

And more than js with all frameworks

empty rock
#

Where i Can find that opportunity

violet shuttle
#

I can give u some advices of "must have"

violet shuttle
empty rock
#

Yes please

empty rock
violet shuttle
#

Okay. U should start learning js. When u will get used to programming I advise u to learn about common algorithms like list, stack and dict/map. Then I recommend to learn OOP(u must make a project with it, it's important). Then I recommend to learn web development(HTTP, API, etc)

mighty robin
# empty rock I just learned html css and quite good at js so im just wondering if i Can get...

This would work in 2015, when the market was not stuffed with everyone. In 2024 its not gonna work, you will be competing with uni graduates holding CS degrees who are gonna have precedence over you, and some of them will be either knowledgeable about js frameworks, or they will be fullstacks who know both front and back at the same time. Youre not the best match for the companies for now

violet shuttle
#

Oh, I forgot to say

#

Google it

#

Google everything

mighty robin
#

yes, pretty much

violet shuttle
#

I think u can find a roadmap for frontend developer

#

Damn

#

I forgot about GIT

violet shuttle
mighty robin
violet shuttle
empty rock
#

Thank u guys for Ur advices i appreciate that ❤️so for now i will just improve my knowledge untill i Can get match in a Work and make somthing with it . i just got a little bit excited that i learned a few languages so i i thought that i will get a work easily but it's hard actually . I will work harder

mighty robin
#

do your thing, hopefully it works. Having a degree in CS would be pretty nice

empty rock
#

I will . Wish u Luck tho

violet shuttle
pure copper
# empty rock SQL

Structured query language. That's nice. That lets you select information from databases, doesn't it? It's there any particular implementation/brand that you are using in particular?

pure copper
pure copper
# empty rock But it's hard to find a safe web and safe payement cuz i tried and didin't got ...

It's hard to know who your client is. There is a high chance they are just a 13 year old kid, or troll or both, or they actually require code, but you don't know enough about them or where they literally are located, to chase for the money they won't pay you when you hand over the code. (Code bombs you can deactivate after payment are good, but if they program also, they could find them , so you would be just a code monkey to them )

pure copper
# violet shuttle Now it is hard to get in IT without uni.

They only way to get a job with little experience, is if you walk into a small business with no ICT people, a company that almost does not use anything more than Word/excel , and you tell the owner you can build them a wonderful program especially for them, that will count their vegetables, or be useful to help customers select curtain colors etc. Then you need to have the ability to do everything to make it work on their computers. And you have to set the price/ or negotiate an ongoing rate if they like your initial product and want it modified to do more. Basically bespoke software for those that can't afford much, but could spend a little bit. The bigger benefit is not the small amount of money you receive, rather the experience to say i built a full system for company z, using whatever. And get references of how wonderful your work was to them

#

@empty rock

sterile apex
pure copper
#

Pro 🥳

#

Just been reading 'computer science' theory and guff. So ready to get lost in theory and academic history and donations and concepts. I'm glad I'm not trying to do this all again . (Although i sort of am, as l try to keep up some inclination of knowledge as it applies today.

sterile apex
#

computer sicence?

#

which part?

#

algorithm and data structure ?

#

or programming language?

#

or maybe AI?

#

lol, i remember u hate AI.

knotty forge
#

I'm CS graduate but i'm not good in programming, any tips so that i can improve

shy glade
#

CS is theory(or Knologe), do programming hand techniques(to use tools)

#

the languages are tool.

#

So, Get used to using the tools

knotty forge
#

what tools you will recommend?

shy glade
#

that doesn't matter

#

the point is what are you intrest in

#

for instance game, web, Linux ...

#

There are languages ​​that are specialized or advantageous for certain fields and are easy to access.

pure copper
pure copper
pure copper
#

It even works for linux

pure copper
#

Yeah, i was thinking it actually felt like 36.4 rather than 36.5

native prism
#

i wonder how they calculate "feels like" if it's in the hardware, it will be experiencing internal component heat

jagged prawn
#

the "feels like" depends on several factors such as actual temperature, wind speed, humidity, sunlight ...

#

that's all the magic dog3

pure copper
#

All I know is, my body said, yes, I concur with the finding.

shy glade
#

Imo, Humidity is the point

sterile apex
#

perfect

shy glade
#

hello @obsidian flicker

shy glade
#

It's everywhere

sterile apex
#

Do not share hiring message

#

this is not hiring channel

#

if u don't remove ur message, i'll report to this server

pure copper
#

🧜‍♀️

shy glade
sour ether
sterile apex
#

great

shy glade
#

so exhaust

#

I spent a whole day implementing the login feature using JWT with Spring Security.
But I didn't have much to show for my efforts

sterile apex
shy glade
#

😢

sterile apex
#

just relax, bro

shy glade
#

So tired.. gotta go

#

Have a good day buddy.

sterile apex
#

gn, bro

#

have a nice dream

#

and hope u would be with your gf in your dream, lol

sterile apex
shy glade
#

Virtual gf do not helpful

sterile apex
#

🤨

#

lol

#

just dream now, and bring it to real

shy glade
sterile apex
#

One day...

#

lol

#

u two'll meet suddenly!!!

#

🎉

violet shuttle
#

bro, its a wrong channel. We wanna study, chatting, chilling. Not this productivity's trash.

#

(pls, correct me if I'm wrong)

pure copper
#

Cough

#

Hi hi off to work i go

shy glade
#

off to (somthing)

#

go do something

#

learned new hehedoggo

shy glade
#

Need rest

#

Uhhhhhhhhhh

pure copper
#

@sterile apex

sterile apex
#

ms peo

pure copper
#

This server is so big, I am constantly scrolling up and down, trying to find the right channel. hjdfhfskkdjfh

#

how are you pro. I have been well today. Got into laying out my big project procedure skeleton today. Looking like its something I can see now, rather than just lots of scattered nots. Got somewhere to put the guts now

sterile apex
pure copper
#

It the beginning of many more months of work

#

well Ive been on it for a month before crhistmas already then break for 6 weeks, but back to it today

sterile apex
#

lol

#

u would get big success

#

👍

pure copper
#

How is your English going?

sterile apex
#

my job is not going well

pure copper
#

why? whats happened

sterile apex
#

i meant ai interview

#

lol

#

has failed

#

😔

pure copper
#

Its not over until you get your "Thank you for your application, but on this occasion you have been unsuccessful"

#

sent by Telegram

#

Telegraph

sterile apex
#

i'm going to finish current japanese job

pure copper
#

in japan

sterile apex
#

time zone is different from here, So it's so stressful

#

um

#

yeah

#

job in japanese company

pure copper
#

its just across from the coast

sterile apex
#

yeah

pure copper
#

what doing in Japan?

sterile apex
#

full-stack engineer

#

a remote job

#

i missed a important interview because of the job!

#

🤬

pure copper
#

Thats what a reminder in your phone is for

sterile apex
#

i worked all night and felt asleep deeply!

#

lol

#

and i missed!

pure copper
#

sad to hear

sterile apex
#

alarm had been set

#

but, i didn't hear that

#

lol

pure copper
#

Search Engine Lead Manager @google

sterile apex
#

@limpid terrace help me!

#

Oh, my!

pure copper
#

got to lay off the elephant tranqs

sterile apex
#

just not kidding?

#

elephant tranqs?

pure copper
#

tranquilizers

sterile apex
#

🤨

#

i don't use any tranquilizers

pure copper
#

long covid then

sterile apex
#

Aha~

#

lol

#

are there any classes today?

#

🤨

pure copper
#

I'm the good old days when you paid to license your software, the money went to the kilos of manuals they provided. the first versions of visual studio has about 20kg of manuals

#

About 70cm of book shelf usage for the one kit

pure copper
#

That's just some of the c set

sterile apex
pure copper
#

Light reading during the night (offline). Can't do that anymore

sterile apex
#

something unusual.

#

r u alone? peo

pure copper
#

I'm in class

sterile apex
#

me 2

pure copper
#

Ehub just started

#

Omg. U went there before

#

Now i can't go up

sterile apex
pure copper
#

U go up

sterile apex
#

why are u there at last ?

#

lol

#

follow me

pure copper
#

I'm in lots of classes. I support in text

sterile apex
#

👍

#

good job

#

lol

#

i'm invited to voice chat

pure copper
#

Yes u r

#

I'm waiting to hear

sterile apex
#

u did it?

pure copper
#

Ur 2nd in q

#

Scary

#

62 people's there

sterile apex
pure copper
#

And going up

sterile apex
#

but i cannot speak

#

there is a problem in my microphone

pure copper
#

Once he pushes that button, youre up

#

Saved

shy glade
#

Wow what a huge amount of book lmao

sterile apex
#

we r in class now

#

join us

#

lol

shy glade
#

Ok i’ll be right there

#

Im on the street

sterile apex
#

ok

sterile apex
#

finished?

#

🫤

shy glade
#

yeop

sterile apex
#

mic, mic, mic ....

pure copper
#

jackson

shy glade
#

lmao

sterile apex
#

lol

pure copper
#

thrilling

sterile apex
#

not micheal jackson

#

mic!

#

my mic!

#

lol

shy glade
#

M.I.C

pure copper
#

get it fixed. Who has no mic (well actually me....)

#

I have no woring mic socket on laptop. stupid thing

sterile apex
pure copper
#

Metro Intelligence Centre

#

dghdlgfd

shy glade
#

Here is solution.
use bluetooth

#

The magic of wrireless

pure copper
#

Thats even worse. Thatys why I got a cable mic. and then found no socket

shy glade
pure copper
#

and the bt took hours to get the drive to connect to my headset as it was

#

||gd tech crap||

sterile apex
#

let's fix out mic and take part in VC with couple

#

haha~

pure copper
#

I'll have to get my voice scrambler activated

shy glade
#

heuw

pure copper
#

The deep news voice of anonymous people

sterile apex
#

busy? @shy glade

shy glade
#

No it's ok

sterile apex
#

i couldn't see u all day, lol

#

🫣

#

did u made your dream to real?

shy glade
#

I was busy

shy glade
sterile apex
#

my dream has exploded!!! bang!@!@

shy glade
shy glade
#

Somethings are made from explosion.

#

like Big Bang

#

From now. It starts from small particle

#

^my dream

sterile apex
#

remote job is fuck something

#

lol

shy glade
#

does it?

sterile apex
#

i was working on site in japan

#

but i immigrate to us

shy glade
#

oh

sterile apex
#

last year So, my company suggested me a remote job

#

lol

#

🤬

shy glade
#

remote work is suck?

sterile apex
#

So, the fuck is working at night!

shy glade
#

ah lamo

#

i get it

#

lolll

sterile apex
sterile apex
shy glade
dark kernel
#

❗ i'm programmer. i can create any program / game for you ❗

shy glade
#

I am late in entering school.

#

I have 1 year for graduate my university.

sterile apex
#

but it's too late

shy glade
#

Nope

#

There is no late in human being