💻｜programming

[plush parrot]

[mystic sentinel]

Hi

[plush parrot]

Wdym

[pure copper]

In glad i want the only one wondering @warped haven

[warped haven]

There’re no pros anymore

[wooden hazel]

hello everybody, are you interested in learning how to code?

[barren quartz]

would like to but c++ terrifies me

[plush parrot]

You can start with simpler languages

[barren quartz]

learned a bit of python here and there

and im already jumping to databases bc thats what my project requires

[barren quartz]

you cant really expect programming pros to be present in a english-oriented server

[plush parrot]

What do you need

[wooden hazel]

of course, it is not a good idea to start with C++. Start with C language and learn about how hordware works - a micro-controller, memory, peripheral devices, etc

[barren quartz]

you cant be serious💀

[wooden hazel]

It will give you a very nice and solid foundation of understanding what software and hardware is about. Then you can always learn some higher languages like Java for instance, haha

[plush parrot]

It's not a rule, it depends on what you are learning programming for

You don't need that to build websites for example

[wooden hazel]

all programming is about the same in fact, no matter what language is used

[barren quartz]

i mean yeah in this instance im only learning programming for a single-use project

[wooden hazel]

in every language you face same problems, it is all about the same, same mess everywhere

the only difference is that sometimes things do not work at all and quite often seem to work fine, haha

[plush parrot]

Most important skill in programming is logic and attention to details

[wooden hazel]

yeah, kinda

[barren quartz]

ill pass.
seems way too deep and complex for me

[wooden hazel]

not at all. In my opinion it is good to know what a car consists of and how it works before getting your driving license, haha

and what fuel is needed to power it, haha

[barren quartz]

thats you ig

[wooden hazel]

ig?

[plush parrot]

Only if you need to repair it

[barren quartz]

"i guess"

[wooden hazel]

is there a reference available here for such things?

[plush parrot]

Abbreviations?

[barren quartz]

also you dont need to be a car mechanic to drive a car, and in my case i can barely drive in a straight line lol

[wooden hazel]

Higher level languages created lots of programmers who never had to care about resources.

[wooden hazel]

yeah

[plush parrot]

You can check urban dictionary website

[wooden hazel]

Tons of people commit lots of code and the only solution is to keep adding memory and hard disks, haha

[barren quartz]

more memory because not all people can write efficient code

[plush parrot]

Less stress and human errors

[wooden hazel]

not at all, quite the opposite. Even if programmers have less stress, this stress is forwarded to sys admins, haha

[plush parrot]

Also modern languages are becoming much efficient of handling memory by themselves

[wooden hazel]

there are tons of problems in modern software dev business

[barren quartz]

meh, people will always find a way to screw up lol

[wooden hazel]

I just met too many idiots in my life, this of course includes myself, haha!

[barren quartz]

outside of it i dont think ill get into programming because im mentally disabled when it comes to maths

[plush parrot]

You don't need math mostly

[wooden hazel]

in fact you are seem to be a promising software dev !

[plush parrot]

It's more about logic

[barren quartz]

thus my logic isnt that great to say the least

[wooden hazel]

not only, most of people do not know what they are headed for, or get lots half way through their code, haha

[barren quartz]

am trying to make a phone software for my project lol

was able to make an app that runs now i just need to add in the actual stuff

[wooden hazel]

good for you, work on 7G, haha!

cause 6G projects are already filled in, hahahaha!

my point here is people this 'civilization' is headed for extinction and the only hope to have a chance to survive is to reset it all

[plush parrot]

That escalated quickly

[wooden hazel]

I suggest learn the basics of software and hardware, it is worth investing some time on knowing how it works from your C code, compiler, to machine code and whatever is on your dev board

[barren quartz]

meh, ill try

[wooden hazel]

you should, it is the only thing worth, it is an investment into the future, which we do not have, haha

If you want to later become an expert in C++ - for example - than C will give you a solid background. I have many times in the past seen people struggling with compilers and they were unable to come up with solutions, cause they were completely lost. Logical thinking is something you have to learn to use. It is like enabling a module in your brain. Necessary to do anything which makes sense.

High level languages have other problems. Quite often you commit some code, but it fails given some unique conditions. Many companies try to solve this problem by developing advanced testing, however it is always people who write such tests 😉

Complexity is what kills modern world.

Many even experienced software developers struggle with parallel and asynchronous code because in today's world there is so much code doing many different things. If you begin your learning with such environment (many C++ commercial projects are very complex) you will most likely never be able to understand how things work. And you will only waste your time trying to find what other people did wrong, haha

So, I advice you to learn the basics.

Or become an expert in PHP, hahahahaha!

hopefully you can commit some code, but before you must know a bit about C language, hahahaha!

ah, I keep forgetting about Java and C# ! hahaha! interested in playing games with some intermediate code? hahahahaha!

yeah, have a nice day folks

it is the ultimate planet of idiots

keep rotating nicely, the Universe is huge ! hahaha !

[plush parrot]

[queen urchin]

[wooden hazel]

I hope you enjoy reading

[delicate viper]

Hey all, is there anyone willing to hop in a room and just randomly chat about something IT/Code related, literally anything just to bump our English level?

To be productive let's pick any random topics from what GPT can generate and we can start practicing our pronouncsidhwuhcdoiwajc

[queen urchin]

pronouncsidhwuhcdoiwajc?

[pure copper]

Its just i/o loops and if then else

[barren quartz]

doubt

[pure copper]

You missed my programming in 4k session a couple of weeks ago. That was a shock to those who attended

[pure copper]

The hardest mathematics I ever needed for a full system, was SIN,COS, TAN (+arc) for projecting 3D data onto 2D planes, but these days you can pull up a 10GB library to do that, so fear not.

[barren quartz]

yeah, trigonometry? fuck that

[barren quartz]

im not very active on the server to say the least x_x

[pure copper]

I can admit I had a brain crash many years ago, months into writing a program from my head, when I was passing functions as parameters to functions, and finally lost the plot.

[pure copper]

Oh ... I just realized that when You said phone, I had written a program that went of people computers, and as you types, it appeared on the other persons screen, character by character. Top half for me and then multiple bands for extra people. Then as I was reading your comment I though omg It was discord, but decades ago...

🧓

[pure copper]

Programming is all about making pixels on a screen change colour. When you die, you will have changed the course of the universe.

🧜‍♀️

I blue screen sometimes when thinking of this.....

[barren quartz]

libraries are confusing tbh

you never know their full extent

[pure copper]

I've reached this breakpoint and see you even have the same philosophy...

[pure copper]

Its pronounced pronoUncsidHwuhcdoiwajc!

[pure copper]

Sure,

[pure copper]

It was actually fun finally seeing a real use for all that wasted school life.

[wooden hazel]

hi, what do you want to talk about?

[pure copper]

The program led to the creation of a massive open cut gold mine...

[warped haven]

Hello there

Are there pros here

continue;

[pure copper]

tried android development for the second time in ~6 years. The first time, I thought my machine was too slow... obviously it was. It took 45 minutes to start an emulator and crash hello world. This time, yesterday, I tried again on my new super modern development machine and it only took 15 minutes to crash on Hello world. So things are getting better. Back to my gcc, Probably will be dead the next time I try Hello World.

[barren quartz]

15 minutes wtf

[wooden hazel]

try Goodby World instead, haha !!!!

[pure copper]

It was The Visual IDE and Android template for hello world

[wooden hazel]

I think the best starting project, which compiles nicely is Goodby Galaxy, haha!!!!!

I have an impression the Milky Way galaxy is not the best galaxy for intelligent life, with a few exceptions, haha !

[pure copper]

1 print "goodbye cruel world"
2 print "||Bang||"
3 goto 2
4 end

[pure copper]

We are but pixel dust in the black screen of the universe

[wooden hazel]

very true, it is very good there are billions of other galaxies, haha !

this Universe has still some chance! haha

[wooden hazel]

of course, duping the entire RAM contents to harddisk before system collapse takes some time !!! haha !

and then next time you turn it on it tries to send it to helpdesk, haha!!!!!!!!

for analysis!!!! haha

[barren quartz]

💀

[pure copper]

[delicate viper]

@pure copper @wooden hazel About anything as long as we can improve each other's English? (N/A if you are Native ofc, and frankly I don't see any value for you in conversing with me if you are)

I just feel closer at home in coding, so I would like any topic on that.

We can switch topics every now and then, but give each other at least 1 minute to speak in rounds.

[wooden hazel]

ok, I will have some time later

we can chat/talk

[pure copper]

Im in a room now. You should find me easily

programmer counselling

[delicate viper]

How can I join a locked room?

[pure copper]

is it locked?

try clicking on it

[delicate viper]

fanatically clicking on it with no results

UX...

It should be at least something along the lines "You can't join a locked room without an invite or permission, send a join request to <nickname>"

[pure copper]

how about a 2 room

@delicate viper

you go somewhere i join you

[warped haven]

Why did the programmer go broke?

Because he used up all his cache

;

delete

Ctrl c

[warped haven]

Sorry, i’m gonna stop cringing*

Anyways

How’s the code today?

[warped haven]

Oh sh!t, i made a bug

[finite hawk]

Hi guys, anyone learning kotlin rn?

[plush parrot]

Yes, its kinda simple if you already know java

little differences

but im still using java for my projects rn

[finite hawk]

nice to know you, but idk about java, and im interested to kotlin for android development

[plush parrot]

My pleasure. Definitely go for kotlin, much better language and standard for android by now

[finite hawk]

you use jave for whats projects? Android or smth?

[plush parrot]

Android

[finite hawk]

Are u a freelancer?

Or company worker?

[buoyant fern]

i once used kotlin for a project in the past but i dont use it anymore

[dapper panther]

Hello

I am Harry Wang and from Taiwan

I am a senior web and blockchain engineer with several years of experience.
I am looking for one collaborator who knows basic of Web development knowledge.

If you are interested, DM me.

[sage stratus]

Hi guys, do you anything about VMware ESXİ and vSphere Admin?

[finite hawk]

Hi harry! Nice to meet u

[river dagger]

hello guys

im from indonesia

nice to meet you all

[rain musk]

Can you give me some tips for learning to program

?

[wooden hazel]

tips for learning how to program?

[thorn night]

I have around 2 years of experience in web development on React, Next

[grand bane]

Front end like a shit

Back end is a real programming

[thorn night]

[mellow portal]

yeah!

But every requests start from the Front-end!.

i think ... it 's important too...

[thorn night]

i'm a little fullstack, besides a react and next, also use a nest

[mellow portal]

nice to meet you!

[thorn night]

nice to meet you too

[mellow portal]

iam a programming engineer.

[thorn night]

tell me more

[mellow portal]

i am interested in web server architecture.

what about you?

[thorn night]

I just do custom development and enjoy it
recently I have been developing CRM systems
I am currently automating a business that deals with mailings.

[mellow portal]

where are you working now?!

I want to discuss with you about CRM systems.

[thorn night]

nothing special dude, it was a just little crm for company that deals with water

the project was written in 4 months by a team of 4 people

[thorn night]

at local dev team, florgon solutions, also have some projects from bali friends

[mellow portal]

yeah~~~

where r u?

[thorn night]

russia

[mellow portal]

OK.

[thorn night]

[mellow portal]

nice meeting! bye iam busy sorry!

[pure copper]

front end is just pretty pictures. and text formatting

[edgy flame]

Chicken Sandwich

[marble condor]

Yea that's why there is a whole programming role called front-end with its roadmaps, tools and technology
Are you sure of what you tryna say ?

Anyway i'm looking for a web back-end mate to work with me on a simple project for my graduation
Anyone ?

[pure copper]

I must have been thinking of something else

[native grotto]

Hello everyone.

[fathom pike]

anyone here backend that can make discord bot? Java language

[mossy skiff]

Hi Buddy

[humble minnow]

Any game developer?(Genuine developer)

[warped haven]

Bro

grammars

[humble minnow]

who need it?

[humble minnow]

Thank you, but I'm not currently in a phase where I need to focus on learning grammar. Perhaps I'll consider it in the future, but my priorities are different at the moment. Thank you for warning and your understanding.

[warped haven]

Bro, lemme explain, i was trying to make some cringe by saying BroGrammer

Instead of Programer

[humble minnow]

Oh!

[warped haven]

Jeez guys you should touch some grass seriously

[humble minnow]

I never heard of it before, I didn't know.

[warped haven]

All good

[humble minnow]

Yes I need tbh

[warped haven]

So what type of brogrammer are you

[humble minnow]

What should I say about it?

[warped haven]

I mean

Are you web developer?

[humble minnow]

Game developer

[warped haven]

Dang!

What are you using?

[humble minnow]

unreal engine

[warped haven]

Nice nice

Do you have a job tho?

[humble minnow]

I have company. 🙂

[warped haven]

.

How old are you?

[humble minnow]

35

[warped haven]

Nice

[humble minnow]

So, you?

I come here sometimes to mess with young people's minds, to be honest.

for suggest game developer

[warped haven]

Lmao

[humble minnow]

Sometimes it is necessary to wash their brain, to go beyond the standard patterns.

[warped haven]

I’m a web developer

[warped haven]

Lol

[humble minnow]

such as

like everybody does

[warped haven]

Because it has more job opportunities

And it’s fun too

[humble minnow]

Programming is fun yeah.

[warped haven]

Where’re you from tho?

[humble minnow]

I'm here to help people by saving them from the 2-dimensional world to 3-dimensional reality.

We create physics laws and other laws like a god and fit stories into them.

[humble minnow]

I'm living in Turkey.

A peaceful country with mad people.

How about you?

[warped haven]

Actually i’m not too far than Turkey

I’m from Iraq

[humble minnow]

Salam alaikum

[warped haven]

Walaeekm alsalam

you are not turkish right?

[humble minnow]

I'm just human.

who is living on planet Earth

[warped haven]

Okay you are not lol

I have

A question

I’m seeking for a job so I’m wondering about something

Is that

[humble minnow]

Someone who embraces "Anarchy" has no boundaries or walls, so he or she has no place to belong.

[warped haven]

What is the acceptable minimum level of English to nail a job in development industry?

[humble minnow]

To explain your problems to others and understand their problems has to be enough

Because our life is about solving problems.

Maybe they will find you boring but just get the job done.

[warped haven]

So do you think i’m good enough?

[humble minnow]

I guess. It depends on which company you working with.

[warped haven]

I see

[humble minnow]

I'm beginner. 🙂

[warped haven]

You don’t

[humble minnow]

I'm

I will die as a beginner.

[warped haven]

Why you are saying something like that..

[humble minnow]

Because supreme knowledge is infinite pool.

[warped haven]

I don’t know what you are talking about

[humble minnow]

I don't know either, dont worry.

[warped haven]

Anyway

[humble minnow]

One big piece of advice is thgat no matter how seriously you take everything, life will never take you serously.

[warped haven]

Thanks a lot about answering my question

[humble minnow]

Try harder as much as you can.

You welcome Kardash. Anytime you need.

[signal steppe]

Hi there, I need skilled web developer, problem solver

Please Dm me

[azure coyote]

@stable dome

[pure copper]

I employed an a1 beginner once. They were a Chinese native, excellent at programming. The code was good (keywords standard), but i had to have the variable names all replaced. A small inconvenience.

[plucky quiver]

I thought they named the variables in Chinese…

[warped haven]

Nowadays naming variables is not a big deal, you can ask for a help from Chatgpt and easily come up with clear and meaningful names

[pure copper]

If you give up your rights to naming variables, you have given up your career to AI.

Hey chatbot Give me a random database for my application.

[warped haven]

Umm, it works actually

Lol

[wild stump]

you're moroccan right?

[warped haven]

Nope, I’m from Iraq

[wild stump]

I thought you're.

[shy glade]

so i have a question i wanna start programming and i dont know the steps , help plz

[knotty axle]

is it worth becoming a fullstack dev?

[humble minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jLOx1hD3_o&t=5045s&ab_channel=freeCodeCamp.org,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLnPwxZdW4Y&t=7272s&ab_channel=freeCodeCamp.org

Start from any.

[shy glade]

paython or c++

[humble minnow]

What do you want to do in the future?

Web development? Mobile app? Data science and machine learning? Destop app? game dev? Cybersecurity? and many more?

What is your ambition?

[shy glade]

cybersecurity

[humble minnow]

doesnt matter choice one.

Phyton, C family, Java, JavaScript...

[shy glade]

wich is easiest

[humble minnow]

The more you work, the easier it all becomes

But I'm in love c++

Also, if there is someone here who is interested in cybersecurity, you can get more help from him/her. Or chat a little with Chat-GPT, it will guide you very well.

But don't waste your time, start watching tutorial right now and choice a language you like.

The logic of all of them is almost the same.

[gleaming geode]

yeah it is good if he start with c or c++

[humble minnow]

I think so, it is a very common language group.

[gleaming geode]

I agree with you

[shy glade]

yeeah tnx buddy

[humble minnow]

no problem. We will always be here when you need help, of course, according to what we know.

[shy glade]

w bro

[steel prism]

I believe that starting to learn programming with the C series may not be the best idea. There is a possibility that instead of gaining knowledge, a person may become frustrated because things might not work as expected since the language is not particularly simple. In my opinion, it's better to begin with something easier, such as JavaScript.

[shy glade]

I continue to update the tool I shared last week.

[mental storm]

Hi everyone, I ma Mahdi and working as a Backend developer.

[lilac fern]

wow that's great, have you uploaded this at github

[meager sphinx]

would u guys recomend cs50 for beginner??

[pure copper]

If you want to stay locked in a big team for the rest of your life then no. Eventually and quickly you will be presented with work that requires knowledge of other areas and if you fail to cover them now, you will be disappointed for having to have had to reject them for lack of knowledge.

[pure copper]

As a security person, experience in many languages will make you a better expert. Knowing the difference between language operation, how they are compiled, manage memory etc, will allow you to spot vulnerabilities in code much easier, especially bad, if you only know a well typed, all managing language as your base knowledge. Learning the mistakes that can be made in languages, will help identify the holes that coders put into programs that make it easy for an intruder to break a system and use it as an entry point.

[shy glade]

yesss, here is a as new update 😂
https://github.com/HalilDeniz/CryptoChat

[gleaming geode]

so what is the field that it's worth it from your perspective?

[leaden verge]

I have a question, I had just started coding and I downloaded Visual studio, but in university we use different program, is that a problem?

[mental storm]

Hi, No! there is not any problem.

which software are you using in your university?!

[leaden verge]

borland :d @mental storm

[mental storm]

I dont know this software and never used that.

What is the primary programming language that you study in university?!

[leaden verge]

we are studying C

[mental storm]

OK, so the Visual studio is one of good options for this language

and you want to study an other language too, or not?!

[leaden verge]

I would like to do later because of the university I don't have a time

[leaden verge]

in university's computer they use another c program

[mental storm]

If you want learn and use an other program (to grow up your skills) you can using the Visual studio, but if you want to use the same application and dont have any challenge (in using or even config the software) you can looking for the source of that software!

[leaden verge]

thanks

[mental storm]

You're welcome 🙂

[humble minnow]

Turkish university?

[humble minnow]

Oh, I see, because C-based education is starting in almost every university in Turkey.

and borland seems base on C

Keep learning C#

[pure copper]

I think that is Borland Delphi. It was a database /IDE based on Pascal and then also I think C++. It probably would look similar to your Visual Studio, but may be a little less "All encompassing". You may be using it because of the database elements, or it could also be, that pascal was a good language for academics to teach with. Depending on your country, the choice may be financial for the University, (I would suspect Borland could be a cheaper option for them)

Either way , keep you Visual installed, as you will probably find it good for your own work. This will be especially true, if they don't provide you with your own license to use the Borland product on your home machine.

Both will have a forms editor, and code windows, and compiler windows, etc and debuggers. FOr the C, perhaps you are being provided with GNU C, which is simple and easy to compile code without all the headaches of teaching you how to navigate a massive IDE. You could be writing in notepad++ within minutes. Whatever it is, enjoy. Sometimes simple is better.

[pure copper]

Just saying if you are doing web work, the front is needed as the interface, but the guts of the program are at the server end and knowing how to work with and even build a database is essential for everything, even simple home applications. If you are working with stand alone applications, well you will be doing everything as well... Forms, reports, database, network interfaces and processing, unless its driving machinery in which case the I/O will be some electronic device.

[gleaming geode]

I agree with you

[prisma needle]

.

[pure copper]

espiritus sanctus

.?

[leaden verge]

thank you all

[old quail]

somebody can help my c++ project? the code isnt show the first letter that he received. Its a project that receives strings and then displays them

[mellow portal]

is that built project?

[old quail]

idk, it's a college project

[mellow portal]

can you show me?

[main bluff]

Hey guys, who can help me with programming the esp32 in Arduino ide.

????

[pallid cloud]

this group there is some hacker

[humble minnow]

What kind of hacker you are looking for?

[shy glade]

good morninggg!

[humble minnow]

Good evening!

[pure copper]

check your loops start with 0 and not 1 (a common mistake). Check how many characters end a line CR/LF or LF. It may be sucking up your first character as an EOL char on the termination of the previous line

[orchid gate]

i wanna learn java but cant really find an easy source for that, like for beginners, anyone willing to help

[mellow portal]

what do u wanna do?

i can help you.

[mellow portal]

i can help you.

but why did you choose java language

[orchid gate]

i didnt choose it, we have programming class in school, and the teacher choosed this language cyz it is so strong

[orchid gate]

it would be nice of you

here is an example

[mellow portal]

yeah that's right java is very strong.

yeah~ ~ why!?

[orchid gate]

for no reason

[mellow portal]

Shall we meet in our DM?

Ok. what can i help you?

[orchid gate]

like how can i learn java language by myself, online, is there any free resources for that(for beginners)? @mellow portal

[mellow portal]

ok just a second!

first, https://www.w3schools.com/java/default.asp

have you already seen?

[pure copper]

What is that screen you are using? Is it a java developer tool or some other drawing tool that uses java?

[winter vigil]

www.tutorialspoint.com

[mortal eagle]

https://

[azure coyote]

your english level is impressive, where did you learn it from

[mental storm]

is there any one who know about Go language?!

[humble minnow]

Positive side effects of learning programming languages.

[viscid raft]

Native ❌
Effects of learning programming ✅

[humble minnow]

?

[viscid raft]

Nvm

[humble minnow]

No no, could you please explain in more detail?

[viscid raft]

The guy who they asked is a native speaker. So isn’t it natural to expect his english is good cuz he is native

[humble minnow]

Frankly, I didn't notice it and didn't examine it too. 🙂

But I still stand by my thesis.

[azure coyote]

im not really sure about that

[humble minnow]

If the articles you read, examples, and information are not in English, then yes. However, since more than 80 percent of the materials on the internet are in English, if you are not doing this, you cannot be a good programmer too.

[viscid raft]

I do read in english but nothing changed

Still as before

[humble minnow]

Development is not something that happens instantly. You will see results over time. Be patient, be positive and move on.

The harder you work, the more you get.

[viscid raft]

Already a year past

[humble minnow]

Year? xD

1 year?

Keep going on.

I spent 20 years and I'm still a beginner.

[viscid raft]

I dont think so

You are at least B2/B1

[humble minnow]

Actually, I got "C2" from a English company course, but if you say so, it is true.

It means they lied

[winter vigil]

😆

[viscid raft]

I said at least tho

Not precisely it

[humble minnow]

I just wanted us to smile.

My motto about learning:
It's always good to be a newbie(beginner). Learning is an endless pool. If you accept you have learned, development necessarily stops.

[winter vigil]

Totally agree!

[viscid raft]

The most common phrase

[humble minnow]

Yes, it is the most common and accurate information.

Because everything in the universe is slowly developing and progressing. In fact, some progress in a positive directin, while others progress in a negative direction. Which one do you prefer? That's the whole point.

[winter vigil]

Sometime you need to get negative direction and after you know right, correct and positive direction. If it is slowly even. Everyone has own speed of development

[viscid raft]

The most nonpreferred one

[orchid gate]

thx a lot!

[humble minnow]

Rest assured, you will encounter many negative things as you move on the right path, so don't even make a choice.

[orchid gate]

i really dont know how to explain this

[humble minnow]

Oh, I guess we implied the same things, sorry I just woke up. 🙂

[viscid raft]

Have u done ur game?

[humble minnow]

Nope still working on it. I decided to do multiplayer. And multipalyer is much harder than single player.

[viscid raft]

Yea Ik u have to know how to program sockets and the protocols

[winter vigil]

You could star with simple text editor with syntax word highlights. Sublime, Atom, notepad etc.

[humble minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BirgFIhxjZ8&ab_channel=Reverse-A
This is multiplayer.
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/879007990

[orchid gate]

yeah but its the teacher who decides this 😦

[humble minnow]

And these prototype characters and environment will chang e a lot in the future.

[winter vigil]

CopyPast?

[viscid raft]

The most hard thing is designing

[orchid gate]

something like that

[humble minnow]

Yes, unfortunately this is not my job. I need millions of dollars of investment for this.

[viscid raft]

U can learn it

And become full stack game developer

[winter vigil]

You could type a code inside editor and then copypast to teachers"s app

[orchid gate]

i cant find java in the link you sent med @winter vigil

[humble minnow]

But I have a 600+ page story and prototype. I will take this

[humble minnow]

No no, Game development not like this.

[viscid raft]

I’m like it

All my own

[humble minnow]

You can't do everthing.

this is AAA type game.

[viscid raft]

Dunno what that means

[winter vigil]

About?
Will resend link

[humble minnow]

A lot of money , A lot of time , A lot of .... I forgot it

[viscid raft]

A lot of effort

?

[humble minnow]

kinda

[winter vigil]

Sh...)

[humble minnow]

https://geekflare.com/top-aaa-games/

[viscid raft]

Like RDR2

[humble minnow]

If we make a measurement, between mine and rdr2. Rdr2 will be a project 1000 times bigger.

[pure copper]

My mother, father, a nun, an old lady, and a couple of other teachers, these of which I sense in the back of my mind.

[viscid raft]

Then RDR2 beyond AAA

[humble minnow]

Definetely.

[pure copper]

Yes indeed

[viscid raft]

No positive effects of living in england/America? 💀

[humble minnow]

Obesity and laziness are one of their main negative effects nowadays.

[viscid raft]

What are they?

[humble minnow]

"Obesity and laziness"

[viscid raft]

They are their main negative effects?

[pure copper]

I suspected, that was what i was seeing. It looks like a drawing package (art as self described) using coding in Java to assist the artist in creating images/art. Would this be correct?

[humble minnow]

Anyway, nice people, the conversation was very nice and productive. Now, I would like to thank each and every one of you for the chat. I hope you work hard and achieve whatever you wish for. Try to stay in peace and not kill each other.

[viscid raft]

Wdum by killing each other

[humble minnow]

"try to not kill eachother". just a meaningful joke.

[pure copper]

But the package shown included a runtime execution and debugger.

[orchid gate]

i found it i found it sorry it was me

[winter vigil]

What is why we should start with simple editors and try to understand how it works: OS, JVM, java code, bytes etc

• java path config

[orchid gate]

yeah this it right

[humble minnow]

%50 longer, %150 expensive.

[pure copper]

Got used to cold weather!

[humble minnow]

Cold weather is good! Development is very slow in hot weather countries. The brain stops thinking clearly.

[orchid gate]

living in Denmark for 7 years and still not used to it

[pure copper]

Are you saying that was too complex? It looks like a cut down ide for beginners/non computing people.

[viscid raft]

Nope it exactly increases. But till it becomes extremely hot

[pure copper]

I thought it was the opposite.

[humble minnow]

Where are you living?

[humble minnow]

that's exactly what I meant.

[viscid raft]

But cold decreases

[winter vigil]

I am saying what it is not complex but we should understand fundamentals of programming languages and algos

[humble minnow]

The ideal temperature is between 20 and 30 degrees. When it increases or decreases, the brain begins to stop thinking clearly.

[humble minnow]

I remember you now 🙂

[pure copper]

I'm sure i saw something about socket programming above but lost it. I got some simple comms working in an hour. Perhaps you could write a multi player tictactoe game with sockets, and make it 3d 3x3x3 or 4x4x4 for added excitement. My colleague and i did that many years ago when we were bored, even dragged in a graphics library to prove it's capabilities.

[pure copper]

Australia. 37 tomorrow. Good time to program

[humble minnow]

Why would i do something like this when I can do better?

[pure copper]

Nice and cool as you say.

[pure copper]

Because you will never really start, never finish and get no sense of satisfaction for completing something. At least with a small task, you can try out stuff and get it finished before you die of old age.

[humble minnow]

I've already come a long way. I will start testing in 2024 with players.

[orchid gate]

anyone hlp me what does algorithms mean in computer science

[pure copper]

That looked like very simple work. Looked like spiral drawing or some simple mathematics of weight and bmi being programmed. At least they are not having to learn visual ide or similar just to write s few lines of code.

[humble minnow]

This is just the wall running phase of the player. It also has functions and connections with input and different results.

Contains hard math and physics 😉

[pure copper]

I see some loop counts. Some basic x, y geometry. And nice variable names.

Oh physics v =s/t. Yes. Very good

[winter vigil]

Lets start with scratch then)

[pure copper]

I think that is the aim of Rimaz's teacher in providing that environment for programming.

[winter vigil]

https://scratch.mit.edu/

[winter vigil]

Seems like

[humble minnow]

I don't think simple projects will bring success. And leaving the path you started on.

And I still have so much to do.

[pure copper]

Looks good.

[winter vigil]

I know. Some times i provide classes for kids in school as volunteer

[pure copper]

Keep at it. I hope the aim of the game is unique enough to market in the end.

[humble minnow]

it is 🙂

[pure copper]

The one thing game development did for me in my early programming life was to, become resilient enough to never play games thereafter. I just wrote the games, never play them. Always enhancing. Never complete. On it goes, ad infinitum.

[winter vigil]

https://makecode.microbit.org/ STEM programming. Another cool thing

[humble minnow]

Are you talking about general games or things you wrote yourself?

[pure copper]

Things i wrote myself.

[humble minnow]

I'm sorry, I don't want to be rude, but if you don't play and enjoy the game you wrote youself. That's why you left it anyway. Because it's not good enough.

Before I started this project. I did 3-4 projects and they were all like shit(sorry). I didn't enjoy playing with them at all.

[pure copper]

I had a large user base/epoch that played the games and gave me be requests for enhancements. I knew how the game worked internally, so it was not as thrilling as a true end user experience.

[plush parrot]

Maybe she got tired because of continuous testing

[viscid raft]

Nice

Why did u blocked me tho

[humble minnow]

Your ego.

[pure copper]

Maybe playing each new function to ensure it work, does indeed bore your excitement, as you've already seen it as it was written.

[viscid raft]

Don’t know where I showed my ego

[humble minnow]

Yes sometimes.

[humble minnow]

we can talk later.

have a nice day everybody. thnks for chat.

[pure copper]

I got tired of all the new languages,watering down the job market making it hard to lock in on the next 'in' thing.

[pure copper]

Bye

[plush parrot]

I see, I do programming as a side activity, so I mostly enjoy it still

I do what I like to do with it

[orchid gate]

i really hate scratch i just think it is so boring and you dont really "program"

[winter vigil]

https://makecode.microbit.org/ STEM programming. Another cool thing

Blocky, python and js in a single editor with visaul effects

[orchid gate]

it really seems cool! i wanna learn this but i dont have a micro 😭

[plush parrot]

Do you think programming is becoming obsolete because of AI?

[pure copper]

The world of programming these days has a lot to do with knowing your object libraries. I'm sure ai will be sucking out the code and objects in response to questions, and stealing what it can. But getting the actual application built to specifications will still require humans for at least another 10 years, maybe 20 if you're lucky.

The future computer professionals will probably be called AI whisperers. Those that can speak AI and make them understand what the humans actually want. Like constructing sql statements to get some data now, the future folk will be people who can ask the correct questions of AI. And then they will be replaced by AI asking those questions.

[quartz basin]

I think that's optimistic. Speaking AI is mainly a requirement with more primitive models. Anyone who attempts natural communication with modern LLMS in the same way a client would make requests to a contractor can easily get the results they're looking for, because, realistically speaking, AI is being adapted to be more widely accessible. I don't see a timeline where AI will keep its sort of niche "prompt engineering" phase going forward.

Being able to articulate what you want has never really been a "prompt engineering" thing, anyways. It's just been a communication thing. Clients have done this for years. I'm pretty sure engineers will still be needed for the more informed, esoteric aspects of software engineering.

[shy glade]

😯

[rain swan]

Is anyone interested in trend?

[fathom jewel]

Hey guys I'm getting started with backend what should be my stack node js mongoDB or node js mysql???

[mental storm]

Hi, I think Mongo DB can be more compatible, but Mongo DB and MySQL have two different structures! The Mongo DB is a document Database and schemaless, but on the other hand, MySQL is SQL database and has fixed schema!

So, if you just looking for the common stack, the MERN (MongoDB, Express, React and Nodejs) is the JS stack more for Fullstack developers but you can remove the React and use that for the backend stack, but I think it is better that you think about the usage of any database in the special project that you want develop that!

I have been working with MySQL for more than 5 years, but there are two years that I have been working with PostgreSQL, and I think it can be a better choice than MySQL!

[fathom jewel]

I'm being lazy as I already know mysql that is why I'm trying to find every reason to not learn mongoDB but I think I can't avoid that

[mental storm]

Do you want to be a Software Engineer?!

If yes, Please, and Please, don't have prejudice about any technology!

You can learn anything that you feel comfortable with, and then when you enjoy working with your skills, then learn new one

[pure copper]

If it's free to download, then learn everything. Once you know one, then you are only learning a few differences for each subsequent option. But in the end, the company that hires you picks the environment, so they more you know, the more companies you can just walk into.

[fathom jewel]

I'm not a software engineer I am just a hobbyist and yeah initially my stack would be react node and sql(PostgreSQL or mysql)..later on I will learn new ones after learning what I can right now as you said

I know some coding in c#(unity) and c++ so I thought why not learn web

[mental storm]

Cool, It's very interesting that you have fun with coding too 😄 it's one of my funs

[fathom jewel]

Yeah☺️☺️

[pure copper]

[noble island]

Does anyone know where to get the 2013 vs code ?

[bold ore]

@noble island VSCode or just Visual Studio?

if Visual Studio, https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/pt-br/vs/older-downloads/

I think VSCode v1.0 came out 2016 so not sure what you're looking for if for vscode

[noble island]

Visual studio code

[untold cliff]

Who can teach Python to me?

[humble minnow]

Chat-GPT

[winter vigil]

You do not need a microbit device to start with learning

[winter vigil]

You should take a look to a redis also

[humble minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfscVS0vtbw&t=13700s&ab_channel=freeCodeCamp.org

A programmer already needs to be a good researcher. I Assume, I don't think there are many people who can help you with this since most programmers don't have time. But we can direct you.

[pure copper]

Anyone who really wants to learn a language and is passionate about wanting to, would already be learning it. There would not be the need to ask, where can I learn. There is no excuse for this question in this day and age, especially as the topic implies using a computer. In the olden days the term was RT||F||M. I guess it should be RT||F||I these days. No offense to the beginners. just a generalization.

But feel free to ask adhoc questions. Everyone is friendly.

💃

[untold cliff]

@humble minnow thanks a lot

[mellow portal]

Does anyone know how to scrap the Zillow?

Zillow anit-bot is really stressfull.

[shy glade]

I have a problem with JavaScript. Private property in class don't change, when I use query MongoDB. But when just change value #serv2 all working. What's wrong I do?

class MiddlewareMapTest2 {
    #serv2;
    get mapOop2(){
        return this.#serv2;
    }
    set mapOop2(kek2){this.#nenene2(kek2);}
    async #nenene2(kek2) {
        this.#serv2 = await Orders.find({status_order: kek2});
    }
}

const objMiddle2 = new MiddlewareMapTest2();
objMiddle2.mapOop2="checked";
console.log(`Result: ${objMiddle2.mapOop2}`); 

[cerulean goblet]

You're facing an issue with a private property in a JavaScript class not changing when using a MongoDB query. To troubleshoot, check if the query is returning the expected data, ensure proper initialization of the property, update it after the query has completed, watch for scope or closure issues, and use debugging tools to locate the problem.

[steel gyro]

Guys

[pure copper]

[pure copper]

[humble shell]

helo.

[shell kettle]

hello

[neat phoenix]

HI

I am new here and I am Full-Stack Developer

I hope you good now and want good relationship..

Thank you

[shy glade]

what do you mean ?

[pure copper]

The world of the internet is founded on computing. There are infinite amounts of reasonable locations in which to find information on any type of programming these days.

For those that really want to get involved with programming, or any other field of computing, they would be doing this as a hobby or out of personal interest already. That is the passion.

Doing it as a requirement of someone else, is a subject doomed to failure in the long term

@shy glade

[shy glade]

I am interested in informatics, but I cannot access every subject easily. I think the resources you mentioned are very basic level and generally useless information. That's why people feel the need to ask experienced people. There is a lot of stuff on the internet but it's hard to find real information. @pure copper

what is RTFM ? btw @pure copper

[pure copper]

This is an old term used before the internet, but with local help (eg man ...) meaning "Read the F* Manual", or the slightly more polite version of RTM "Read the Manual".

There is nothing wrong with seeking out experts, and most people are always happy to share information. Even those that say RTM.

What type of informatics are you interested in pursuing? @shy glade

[shy glade]

You have a somewhat contradictory answer. are you a expert ? @pure copper

[pure copper]

I am an expert in that which I have done.

I can perhaps provide guidance in that which you wish to be an expert in

[shy glade]

The subject of being an expert has always made me laugh. Who is an expert? I think this is a subject that needs to be discussed

What is the criterion?

Then I m an expert too

[pure copper]

You wish to discuss meta-English, rather than Informatics. This is going to be a Mr Green discussion I fear

perhaps I'm not an expert to your criteria.

I am an expert in life support equipment software in my business

[shy glade]

I did not specify any criteria, I am asking what is the criterion?

[shy glade]

Like MR ?

[pure copper]

Your set the requirements for the expert you want, and if someone meets your requirements, then they will be your expert.

Magnetic Resonance?

[shy glade]

Yess

[pure copper]

then no

[grave needle]

i agree , you say that some topics cannot be accessed by searching on the internet, right? There is a lot of misinformation on some very specific topics

medical image processing ?

[shy glade]

yes definitely

[shy glade]

Yeah like MR images

[mellow portal]

Hi every body!

Does anyone know how to make a DOM extension?

[shy glade]

article of the day
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/07/network-compromise-assessment-tool/

[grave needle]

cool , i m interested in it

[hasty locust]

yo wsp guys

can some one tell me what is programing .the purpose of it and how u do that dm me for that pls and keep in mind that im begginner soo ya

[verbal stirrup]

Hi ,
Please I have a little problem,When I click on Open folder or file vs code closes automatically .

[vernal parcel]

??

[proper garden]

Hi guys, i need proyects to my portfolio, please can you help me?

[vernal parcel]

??

[golden abyss]

Remove it and try to install a fresh copy

[muted dawn]

hi want to start programming has who tipps

[formal mist]

starts with programming logic, algorithms, pseudocode

then study a programming language according to your objectives

[muted dawn]

okay

[formal mist]

good luck!

[muted dawn]

thank you

[hardy spire]

I'd suggest to read about different areas of programming, what is frontend, backend, mobile, machine learning and more, then decide which one you like the most. Afterwards pick one language and learn it, jump into projects as soon as possible

[hardy spire]

what you exactly need?

[verbal stirrup]

okey thank you

[shy glade]

Hi guys ! , I am working in my own website. Like everbody can launch any game on website + figures and visuals (including everything from the game's wikis) This will help me as I don't have to work, if anyone can write it and I can give it to them. :)

[vernal parcel]

Hi Dupi.

let me know your website address.

[shy glade]

İts not ready but i can send you some pictures

@vernal parcel

Send it

[kindred plinth]

Hi

You just get hacked

[somber umbra]

who knows 4 types of constructor in c#? my teacher said there are 4 types of constructor and am confuced

[pure copper]

Remember medical imaging hardware is not generic. It is not going to be found on the shelf. The companies that create such devices have spent years creating and improving them. The software that drives them and creates the imagery may use some common standards and formats with its output, but the scanning, and conversion to known standard will be proprietary, built inside and known only to the business, unless it's been stolen.

Knowing about imaging standards in general will assist in getting work with such companies, but finding detailed information on how an mri or ct scanner, record and convert at high speed and resolution, is not going to be handed out for everyone to use, otherwise the business will go broke.

[pure copper]

Some people when they ask the question, appear to have no understanding of computers at all. For them, these terms are like the aliens telling the caveman about slow cooked beef brisket.

[pure copper]

Perhaps contact General Electric or Phillips as two of the big players in the market and ask them what they want out of an imaging equipment expert. They may even give you a job, if that's what you are interested in.

[mellow portal]

i think there are "static", "public", "private" and "protected"

[vast burrow]

I think "internal" rather than "static"

[mellow portal]

no!

static

[hardy spire]

Haha, that's true, but everyone starts at some point 😄 These days, programming is fashionable because it offers good earnings. Many of my acquaintances decided to become programmers, even though they're not into computers, and almost none of them succeeded... You have to really like it, otherwise you have no chance, there's too much to learn 🤷‍♂️

[pure copper]

Default, primary, base, structure

(my guess)

[ocean ore]

my latest game , small game

by html,css,js

[mellow portal]

I think I was wrong.

There are five types of constructors in C#.

There are Default, Parameterized, Copy, Private, Static constructors.

[quaint meteor]

Yes it's very good, i think that after times you will be able to create good projects) 😄

[serene sun]

wow

my section

[hollow wedge]

hi all

[shy glade]

hi, I am a web developer

Nice to meet you all

nice to meet you

hi, neil . what is your job

[vernal parcel]

who are you?

[shy glade]

I am a man

And you?

[mellow portal]

??

iam too.

H~~

[uneven raven]

Front or back?

[shy glade]

I am full stack developer

[uneven raven]

What is your stack? PHP, JS?

[shy glade]

both.

and mern stack including react and experss.

[uneven raven]

Cool. Where are you from?

[shy glade]

I'm from germany, and u?

[uneven raven]

Russia

[shy glade]

what 's your occupation?

[somber umbra]

love u

[uneven raven]

I am also a web developer, but I use Vue (Nuxt). We make software for created e-commerce sites

[shy glade]

u r cool

how about work together

if we work together, everything is very easy.

So do u have any project?

Excuse me, would u give me your name?

I'm Jhon Mark.

[mellow portal]

what?!?!❤️ ?!?!

[livid dove]

Hello everyone, who is programming on python with tensorflow/keras?

[mellow portal]

Hi? what do u want to do?

[frigid pelican]

Hello

How's everybody?

[frigid pelican]

i want to start

[livid dove]

I am creating AI voice assistant but I have to big problems in install this library

[wheat umbra]

Guys I need help with web-project for school olympiad of ICT, who can help? dm if you intrested(easy web design and functions(easy task))

[umbral spear]

нбат

[wheat umbra]

?

[mellow portal]

hey.

i can help you.

[uneven raven]

I work in a company. We always have work )
Where do you work?

[brittle relic]

Hello guys, are there some people here hwo are interested in compatitive programming ?

[umbral spear]

Well you should come here tomorrow then I'll come there in your place right or no matter why you're doing me so

?

Welcome

[muted sedge]

print("Hello World!")
output:
Hello World!

oh yeah it worked ! nice

[shell nova]

Hi, I am a leader of GlamGeeks Team. I am looking for agencies who have programming knowledge. If you join, you can make lots of money with me.

[rose socket]

sounds good

i have software development team.

[gloomy kraken]

Textbook scam

[rose socket]

ha

[vernal parcel]

really?! sounds good! lol

[vernal parcel]

Is there anyone who knows about python and please reply.
what is the different between array and turple?
or with other programming languages such as java or c#?

[plush parrot]

Arrays in python are called Lists, they are mutable, Tuples are immutable

@vernal parcel

[lunar oxide]

Is anyone here from the U.S?
DM me aspa if you are from the U.S.

[twin solar]

Scam ?

[lunar oxide]

Hey, What's up man?

[twin solar]

Do you want to sell something?

[lunar oxide]

Fuck!

[twin solar]

Busted haha

[twin solar]

On Grindr? Looking for a partner?

[fresh ridge]

Q. I'm not a needle, nor a loom, Yet I weave
threads in a digital room. Parallel paths,
tasks I distribute, In the world of
processing, I contribute. Can you guys solve this riddle ?

[shy glade]

PassBreaker: Password Cracking Tool
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/11/passbreaker-password-cracking-tool/

hello everyone.
I'm sure there are much better programmers among you than me.
I am developing a tool called cryptcat.
And I look forward to your contribution.
It would be great if there is someone who packages the data with simplejson, updates it so that it can reach the other party, and sends it to me with a pull request.
https://github.com/HalilDeniz/CryptoChat

[iron stirrup]

hi

[gleaming moon]

Can somebody teach me coding?

[queen urchin]

me

[gleaming moon]

Ok I'm all ears

[plush parrot]

Hi All Ears

[shy glade]

Hi all ears, im hungry

[cursive hawk]

Try studying from cs50 courses

[gleaming moon]

Did I say something wrong

[shy glade]

source ready
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/12/scapy-guide-to-network-analysis/

[fresh stag]

my pleasure

[pure copper]

The reply is: "nice to meet you too Hungry"

[warm crystal]

Any Javascript developer here??

[warm crystal]

🫣🫣

[exotic tiger]

Yes

[warm crystal]

Bro can u please help me to understanding a logic

[exotic tiger]

I will try, can you give more info

[crystal temple]

hi

[earnest fractal]

Dumb question : If you'd like to read super long article for learning technical detail, how would you tell GPT to do this for you ? I used to describe things like :

• "summarize a section / chapter of xxx and list key points in precise way"
• "extract key takeaways from xxx, without digging deeper from the external reference documents"

What else you would usually do / say to the bot ?

I am reading this , not sure whether I could find better approach from here :
https://www.allabtai.com/how-to-use-gpt-3-to-increase-your-productivity-10x/

[shy glade]

Working on it

And this

That all from my own website

İf you want more information

Feel free to dm

:D

[restive knoll]

hello programmers

[restive knoll]

yes

[restive knoll]

Hello I have a digital agency website I wanna sell this in $250 if anyone interested please tell me here

[shy glade]

the article is ready 🙂
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/13/port-scanning-with-scapy/

[verbal stirrup]

Same help me I have a problem when I click ran my code can't work (code about calculator with C++)

[shy glade]

An example from the masters' book 😄

[pure copper]

Based on what you have told us, I suspect you have made an error in your code. Have you tried the debugger?

[humble zenith]

Did you successfully execute any code in the past? Or is this the first time seting up the environment and running the code?

Depending on your answer this can be a problem with your environment or a bug in your code.

[high current]

Hi guys, which e-learning platform do you prefer? 🤔

[night charm]

Anyone here doing the following courses: CS61A, CS61B, The Odin Project, Full Stack Open, and/or fast.ai?

[shy glade]

how to do the fibonnacci in python

[spring dew]

Duolingo

[cursive hawk]

They provided many methos to solve Fibonacci broblems

recursive the easiest method

I meant in mathematic you can use induction to solve, it works same as your way to solve fibonacci broblems on python

[sage stratus]

Hi guys, do anyone know that, do i need Cisco CCNA for being DevOPS Engineer? And also, which programming language is good for being DevOPS and System Administrator

Also, i am confusing like i finished RHCSA and now, i have 2 options, one of them is to go after Linux Engineer+RHCE and become System Administrator and the other way is to go after Ethical Hacking. Which one do you prefer?

[naive hatch]

Python and go language are good choices for to become a DevOps.

It depends on your interest and career goals to go after Linux Engineer or Ethical Hacking.

[pure copper]

Hello Mr Bot, Today's national listings for jobs in Australia, shows 600 System administrator positions vacant, and 2 cyber security positions (both low level support jobs). There are no listings for "Ethical Hackers". My recommendation is pursuing a System Admin job. Learn shell scripting and learn your op system functions.

Ethical hacking is a mythical job. If you are employed to find flaws in security, you work internally and keep up to date with the latest hacks, and vulnerabilities, you test programs and op systems configurations. You look for things that I would like to say should not be there, based on documented lists of things to look for. It is extremely rare for an individual to find a global vulnerability ( but not impossible). The job is a glorified tester, and testing is not exciting. You will not get a job as a freelance or sponsored hacker unless you already know as much as Ed Snowden, and even then, you are chasing dreams hoping for a cash reward, while your family starves under a bridge with your missus yelling at you to get a real job.

There are hundreds of jobs available from small to large companies for Sys Admins. Everyone needs someone to run their computer complex. In a small company you are the master of the IT Department. In a Large Company you work for an overlord, but its still educational and you will learn a lot either way. As a sys admin in a small organization, you can apply your security skills as part of your admin job. You can also gain experience in all aspects of the computing area of the business, including networking, hardware, cabling, routers, physical security, interfacing to other businesses etc.

🧜‍♀️

[wooden hazel]

@pure copper "There are hundreds of jobs available" - there are not even 30 million people living in Australia and there are hundreds of jobs available? how the economy functions there I wonder...

[pure copper]

🙅‍♀️

well with those figures, US with 10x pop, means 6000 sys admin jobs and 20 cyber security jobs

[wooden hazel]

yeah...

for some reason most of the population living in Australia and New Zealand would like to relocate to the US

is the US better? safer? what is the reason many people around the world would like to live in the US and not Australia, for instance?

IT job markets are quite a good example of how economy functions

@pure copper "My recommendation is pursuing a System Admin job" - why? it is quite boring unless one can 'rule' a small company, which is a challenge in this world

[pure copper]

absolutely not

[wooden hazel]

okay

becoming a professional System Admin takes many years of education and experience

I do not think there are many really good sys admins, definitely not many enough

[pure copper]

It was a question of which of Sys admin or Ethical Hacker. There are other jobs that could be better as well, but this was limited to the scope of the question.

[wooden hazel]

becoming an 'ethical hacker' takes more years then becoming a sys admin

[pure copper]

it depends on the system ofc, A CRAY supercomputer may have a few more manuals to read.

[pure copper]

indeed.

[wooden hazel]

HAL 9000 from the Space Odyssey did not have any manuals to read, haha 😉

[pure copper]

And it ended up singing twinkle twinkle little star

[wooden hazel]

haha, my point is neither sys admin nor ethical hacker can be done by just "Learning shell scripting and learning your op system functions."

[pure copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8N72t7aScY

Daisy Daisy

[wooden hazel]

it takes much more than just being able to deal with some folders and sys functions

[pure copper]

worked for me

[wooden hazel]

well, what happened after deactivation of HAL 9000?

[pure copper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfje9_QRQbk

one becomes old

[wooden hazel]

yeah, many years after tons of people around the world started asking tons of questions about HAL library for ARMs chips

my point is in the IT industry it takes much more than just graduating from some university - what matters really is the experience

[pure copper]

yes

[wooden hazel]

and I think Australia lacks experienced people in the IT

[pure copper]

no

The whole world is building web sites to sell clothes these days. That is the end of society

[wooden hazel]

? not getting your point really

the world of 1s and 0s does not seem to be capable of solving global problems these days

the human brain is the only chance for mankind to recover

[pure copper]

That is the point

As a computer person, your life will be changing the colours of pixels on a screen until you retire or die. Then the universe continues

[wooden hazel]

I met a guy from Australia many years ago and he told me many stories about Aussies and the region there. I was very surprised when he said 'Australia was a very successful country'. And then he told me that while he and his friends worked for some restaurant, they used to wipe their asses with a kangaroo steak meet.

[pure copper]

relevance??

[wooden hazel]

It was funny to hear how mixed feeling built a successful country.

my point is the truth about Australia is not what many people think it is

[pure copper]

mixed feelings... kangaroo steak on butt!

[wooden hazel]

well, he was serious

it was a real story about everyday's life in Australia

[pure copper]

Same around the world

[wooden hazel]

I wonder how the IT industry works there given the above example from the food industry, haha !

yeah, I know - people are everywhere the same

[pure copper]

we meet, talk, design, build, implement, start again

[wooden hazel]

If mentality there in the region was a bit different, Australia would be a wonderful home for at least 100-200 million people easily.

I wonder what % of asians live there permanently?

[pure copper]

~25%

[wooden hazel]

and what % of asians works in the IT

ha, you see, 25% !

interesting

[pure copper]

in my team of 10 there are 5

6

Should have counted the other way

[wooden hazel]

very interesting, cause Asia is overcrowded region

there could be more people living in Australia

[pure copper]

Perhaps people like where they live better thanb in a desert

[wooden hazel]

I hope after the global 'reset' it will all change for better

[pure copper]

everyone will live in desert then

[wooden hazel]

the fusion will power that region I assume

so building more cities will be easier

[pure copper]

like total recall

2008

[wooden hazel]

???

back to the topic - I would recommend anybody interested in sys admin job to learn some low-level programming language like C for example

or assembler 😉 the best sys admins know what is going on on every level

[pure copper]

👍

C

[wooden hazel]

yeah, C language is the best

[pure copper]

that was a given, but I guess sometimes it needs to be explicitly stated

[wooden hazel]

I always recommend C language because it can easily be mixed with pure Assembler

it cannot get faster than machine code

[pure copper]

Especially when needing to sing a Bicycle built for two

after being lobotomized

[wooden hazel]

what?

[pure copper]

HAL

[wooden hazel]

yeah, HAL for stm32 is a real horror, so many people struggle with ARMs these days

I mean the HAL library

it only proves too many people cannot follow such fast technological development enforced by the idiots who 'rule' this planet...

I hope after the 'reset' 8052 will be taught at schools

[pure copper]

6502

[wooden hazel]

cause complexity of ARM chips development is huge and less and less people are capable of following the code they develop, including the HAL library

[pure copper]

too many instructions perhaps

[wooden hazel]

nope, the problem lays in complexity

[pure copper]

to output a 0 or 1

[pure copper]

like a danish pastry, layer upon layer upon layer

[wooden hazel]

floating point instructions are quite okay for example, but many people cannot follow the complexity of architecture and code

[wooden hazel]

yeah, and underneath ...

[pure copper]

[vernal parcel]

pls keep talking.

[warm venture]

ok??

[sage stratus]

Thanks for your reply

[sage stratus]

Thank you, i think so, it's hard to get money, i have to find a job

[sharp condor]

Hey

[naive hatch]

hello

It's a new day

In European and North American countries, which language is more commonly used, Java or Go?

[wooden badger]

Ayooo

[wooden badger]

Ayoooooooo

[sharp condor]

Hello, How are you

[naive hatch]

[pure copper]

⌨️

[quaint meteor]

Hi

Hi

[bitter heath]

Hi all 😄

[quaint meteor]

Yes

[earnest fractal]

The picture is cute and hilarious : https://www.monkeyuser.com/2020/project-setup/

[shy glade]

https://github.com/HalilDeniz/CryptoChat

[quaint meteor]

Hi

[pure copper]

Wohoo. I did some programming last night rather than typing my usual nonsense, and managed to get some real functionally added to my flash card program.

Ig it was just learning how to find the toolbox and properties windows etc that have got me going again. Converted my data source to something usable and it's really going to be helpful. Already got my next task lined up for tonight. ...⌨️

[shy glade]

seen any lecture ??? suggest me also

[pure copper]

I'm an ex programmer (Old programmers never die. They just terminate and stay resident.). I'm just trying to get back into it for the fun of it. F1 is your IDE friend.

OLD FISHERMEN never die, they just smell that way

[shy glade]

Yo can someone make my javascript assignment. I will pay

[pure copper]

Not helping the world or a future employer by helping with this request. 🧜‍♀️

[pure copper]

@shy glade

Now its just the chain of continuous improvement. A neverending cycle, like the windmills in my mind

[wooden badger]

I’m okay

[shy glade]

@shy glade I just dmed you the instructions

[pure copper]

alright. How about: "What is Peo's favourite colour?"

What quotation was that based on?

I predict that your guess is sound and based on your computational experience. so keep up the good work.

I have a suggestion to try, but I fear its outcome.

I was going to say what to do, but I know you will be obsessed and that is not good, so I will keep it to myself.

I think we already discussed you were older than me. Why the change of heart?

I casnnot even respond to that without letting you think about what you just said

WHATTTTT You said 27

was your age

Ive never seen you

I don't recall saying that, and I don't think I've ever seen you in VC

[blissful basin]

that was his hint, he/she is mysterious.

[pure copper]

13 < age < 99. I've seen 3-5 comets in my life. I've been to Hong Kong 4+ times

what is it 1hkd to cross from Kowloon to HK on the ferry?

probably another clue, but more likely poor memory (oh another clue I guess)

🧜‍♀️ No fooling you

i can't compete with your superior computational Prowess

[wooden hazel]

#1054645328202170428 message

[pure copper]

Did anyone succeed in programming the 4x4x4 tictactoe multiplayer challenge earlier?

[cursive hawk]

use regex to solve tic-tac-toe

https://tenor.com/view/halter-beyin-komik-brain-workout-gif-13417733

[naive hatch]

Are there any real programmers here?

There are not many questions about programming here,

[pure copper]

Real programmers are not going to be asking questions. They already know the solution.

[naive hatch]

Okay. Problem sovled!

You are so active in this channel, Peo.

[shy glade]

new project 🙂
https://denizhalil.com/2023/11/17/python-learning-roadmap-in-30-days/

[nocturne river]

Hello guys

[pure copper]

🧜‍♀️

[nocturne river]

Is there any way yo learn programming with mobile?

[blissful basin]

get yourself a very used computer. you can start off with anything

[errant slate]

Hello

[naive hatch]

Yes, there is. But all are not convenient.

The computer can provide best running environment for your program

[cursive hawk]

[bright dust]

Ayo had a question ❓
Abt pc
I'm using 3070 and ryzen 5600
In micro ATX with one fan
I'm gonna get mid tower casing my budget bit short.
So my question was how many fans should I put in it 3-6 talking abt non rgb

For best airflow

[pure copper]

If you download Microsoft visual studio, it includes an android development module with an android emulator to test the programs on. Its all free. I downloaded the Android developer kit 10 years ago and it ran like a dog with 1 leg. Took 45 minutes every time to start hello world.

I downloaded visual studio 22 a few months ago and the Android Java still was taking 5s of minutes to get the emulator started, and that is with a 1 year old high end machine. I've given up for now trying mobile. The c++/other stuff appears to run reasonably quickly and compile fast.

Also, i tried the Apple developer kit eons ago, so there is that. If you are an iPerson, it may work for you. Also free Dev kit but need to sign in.

[shy glade]

hi there

ı wanna ask a question how can ı do python flask and sqlite database deployement

ı try pythonanywhere.com but ı didn't fixed some problems

can anyone help me? ıf u wanna show me, you can write me and we can be voice chat, screen share

[shy glade]

and finally what is the best python web frameworks? django or flask

[cursive hawk]

That depends on your company, your team. If that is a side project, it should be flask ~ because it's easier

[shy glade]

oh okay ı see. thanks for your response

[plush parrot]

I heard that Visual studio is discontinued

[mortal eagle]

check out https://turso.tech. although they use a fork of sqlite called libsql. it doesn't change how sqlite works, just adds new cool functionality

[pure copper]

Really!

gave me a heart attack .... Its Visual Studio for Mac that is discontinuing. Regular Visual Studio for Windows is still going, and it looks like VS Code will do the Mac stuff if thats what one needs (or use Apple)

[shy glade]

Program : Hackman;

Var real : bread
Var boolean : bread2
Var real : Minecraft

Begin
Writeln ('Goku or Minecraft?');
bread2:=Minecraft
If bread2=true then do
Begin:
Readln:=bread
Writeln ('Did you chose the Minecraft?, bread2');
end

End.

My all skills in Program xD

[shy glade]

It's doesn't work

[plush parrot]

Oh ok

[pure copper]

You have a wide range of issues. I think you really should think about what you are trying to do and develop your algorithm first. Draw a flowchart first. It is important that you put in the flowchart in plain language the order of questions, writing the prompts, inputting the answers, doing comparisons of what is typed in and what needs to happen based on what answer is typed in.

Remember that boolean values are true/false, and that the user will be typing in either 'goku' or 'mine craft'. These will be strings that need to be compared to a string value with your IF statement. You could place a 1 and 2 next to the options in the WRITELN statement and input the value 1 or 2 , which will be easier to compare in the IF. For example
Var answer as integer; Write('goku[1] mincraft [2]:') Read(answer); IF answer = 1 THEN write (' you choose Goku')

[lyric rapids]

Yout two Peo and neil, looks like BF.

[cursive hawk]

Nicee

It looks better, very clear with flow-chart

[pure copper]

Ain't that the truth.

[lyric rapids]

I'm new to new to this club and searched about articles.
You and neil talk together in times.

[lyric rapids]

As I'm also the programmer, I was able to obtain valuable information from yours.

[pure copper]

What valuable things did you acquire with your quest? The level of information here is very generic and superficial generally. I'm just curious...

⌨️

[lyric rapids]

I'm a linux developer. I've been working for 9 years as a member of small compay.
Compared to the years of development, there is little knowledge about other fields except Linux.
Looking at your article, I was able to get common sense and interesting information even in a short article.

[pure copper]

One of the biggest fears one can get, believing they work for a small comment, is the fear that you could be in a big company building rockets, or mpg or anything other than what you are doing.

I know it happened for me in the start. Not knowing what was happening. But get involved on some professional tech associations in your area, join and attend their social functions. You will meet others, see what is happening. You may realize there is nothing different between what they do and what you are doing, it you may see that you are trapped and need to change. You may even hear about jobs or if lucky just get offered a job by someone you end up knowing.

But big or small, it's all the same in the end. Just as long as you stay current with the languages an op systems you should be fine. Linux won't go away in your lifetime. But it will get improved.

[lyric rapids]

🔯

[lyric rapids]

As developing base-lined software of linux in long time, there is also a sense of fear in approaching other fields such as the web.
What's your main skill?

[fervent prairie]

Hi. I coded a website and I need to host it on the internet. How to do it for free ? I searched on the Internet but I couldn't find anything?
I would be grateful if you can help with a step-by-step guide.

[pure copper]

If you have a static ip and can keep your computer on, then you could host it on your own machine and have the dns put into your isp's routing table. Then it will be circulated and people trying in your web address should land in your home page. Good for a few friends or occasional lips, but if you are planning a few million visits a day, then a data center and some basic spend is advisable.

[fervent prairie]

And how should I do step-by-step?

[pure copper]

I haven't done something like that for many years. I'm certainly not able to give you step by step for your situation. But the info is only a Google click away. You will best use a junk computer, because it's probably going to be poorly secured with the limited knowledge and could be readily hacked, or spammed, or attacked or anything.

Hey reading articles like this search "how to host a website in my own computer". It should give you information like the following which will help you along your way. I personally pay about $70 a year for hosting my website in a center. Protected, etc, do could be worth the investment, even if only as a test site for lorylcg.org

https://www.wpbeginner.com/beginners-guide/how-to-host-a-website/

[lyric rapids]

I've recently studied data analytics.
I want to get more experience in freelancing site.
But I don't know the situation of data analytics freelancing nowadayas.
Any one can give me a help?

[orchid gate]

How do i create more bouncing ellipses?

[verbal stirrup]

How have any idea about code blacks

[vernal parcel]

Can you running this cord?

[vernal parcel]

Is this a bouncing ellipses?

[pure copper]

Maybe define some additional x(n),y(n),rad(n) variables and remove their start positions and call the ellipse(...) function for each of them in the draw() routine.

If you want bouncing track, then use y = abs(sin(x)) with some appropriate constants to multiply it into the correct display range.

[tawny delta]

I love your flow chart!

[wise forge]

hello world

[orchid gate]

thx Peo i found out☺️

[shy glade]

thanks a bunch. ı will read docs and use this tool

[mortal eagle]

also idk if you need this information, but turso is used to add a free database to your website, and in javascript frontend development we use vercel and netlify to deploy our website to the internet. i'm not sure if these services work with python, so i can't recommend you a service to host your websites

[neat wren]

Hello

[reef summit]

omg there's a programming channel too

[severe parrot]

Hi guys

I am a junior software developer.

anyone who knows AWS well enough? I wanna get helped from you

Thanks.

[pure copper]

hello all.

[wise forge]

I help ya for just 1k bucks

[severe parrot]

hi

anyone from the United States?

[wise forge]

I am

[severe parrot]

hmm great.

am from calif

and u?

[wise forge]

I am not actually from US but a live in Austin Texas

[wise forge]

Must be expensive af

[severe parrot]

that's good

Would you mind to introduce yourself?