Русский

[foggy yarrow]

Tell me if you can understand anything

[balmy condor]

i will when later

[foggy yarrow]

Did you understand anything

[balmy condor]

I forgot to

I was with friends

And then went to bed

[foggy yarrow]

Morning

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow как дела

(just seen this)

[foggy yarrow]

Пойдет, сам как?

[balmy condor]

I'm just gonna assume 'well, and you?'

Or something close

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah

Literally translates as "will walk, your self how?"

[balmy condor]

The hell

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah, your businesses will walk

Or move

[balmy condor]

What's the correct localisation

[foggy yarrow]

The former

"move" is only because it's easier to understand

Дела means businesses

But like, as in just things to do, not entrepreneurship

[balmy condor]

Oh so like kak is how?

[foggy yarrow]

Yep

[balmy condor]

Nah allright I understand what's meant by that

[foggy yarrow]

Similarly, "не твое дело" means "not your business"

[balmy condor]

It sounds very ryhm-my

[foggy yarrow]

Wat

[balmy condor]

Nevermind instead wrong

Read

I

Erik. Read

[foggy yarrow]

But obviously, when you're learning English, you think "damn, they're really a capitalist country, even such a simple expression has something to do with owning a company"

[balmy condor]

Forgot E is IE

[foggy yarrow]

Have you ever read Harry Potter

[balmy condor]

Nah I'm not like that, I don't even nearly think that far
I see everything on a base level and not think far ahead, what's there so what I'll think, and not go beyond

[balmy condor]

No

[foggy yarrow]

Sad

Apparently, reading it in your target language is a good method, if you've read it before

Popular book that's translated into many languages

[balmy condor]

General I have read 0 books

Only when I'm forced to

[foggy yarrow]

At least you can watch the movies

I recommend

[balmy condor]

I don't like the series

I'm not interested

[foggy yarrow]

🙀 no way

That's like, THE zoomer thing

That everyone likes

Except my mother didn't let me watch it as a kid, because she thought it was a horror series

[balmy condor]

Idk I never cared

Nothing from outside too I just really didn't care

[foggy yarrow]

I never watched it, but I got really interested when my classmates talked about it

I watched and it was so nice, I suggested it for movie night

My sister became a huge fan ever since

[balmy condor]

Wow I was gonna watch it but mobile discord say no

[foggy yarrow]

just download it on your stupid iphone

[balmy condor]

I have a miui

A Xiaomi

[balmy condor]

niet
kak
CD?(im not sure)
R
Tri

[foggy yarrow]

LOL

The story goes like this

I need to retake my coursework defense
On Monday, I keep calling my curator, but he doesn't answer. I write a few messages on whatsapp, and I don't know if he reads them

I write another message on whatsapp
"Maybe I should consult the decanate? What do you think?". Those words were powerful enough to wake him up

He said "NOOOO COME TO MY OFFICE TOMORROW INSTEAD"

I came

[balmy condor]

nice story

i respect your effort so i cencentrated to listen

[foggy yarrow]

That is NOT the end

[balmy condor]

oh my bad

[foggy yarrow]

He said "Go make a formal message to the rector"

And I did. Through the website. That's it

Why couldn't we just do that over whatsapp? Because my curator is an idiot

So he calls me 5 minutes after I went home

"The defense is on Friday. When do you think you will finish the coursework?"

And I said "I will send it by tomorrow

And I did

Wednesday, I send the coursework in a word document

I call him to make sure he read my message

He said ok

He needs to send it to a plagiarism program first, and students don't have access to it for absolutely no reason, so you have to do it through the teacher EVERY TIME

?????

It's Thursday and still no reply

I call him multiple times. One time, he answers, and says "sorry can't speak rn", and after that ignores all my calls

It's Friday, the defense day

I call him

• When do I come in?
• Did I call you to come in?
• No...
• Well then don't come in!

And here we are

WHY IS IT IN BULLET POIJNTS
It's a dialog 💬

@balmy condorso yeah this is the end

[balmy condor]

ill read this klater

im gaming rn

thank you in advance

[foggy yarrow]

@balmy condor did you read it or forget? After the gaming I mean
Genders in Russian are surprisingly uncomplicated. If a word ends with a -а -я -ь then it's feminine. Otherwise, if it's a vowel, it's the middle gender, and if it's a consonant, it's a male gender
This is why Erik is typically a man and Erika is typically a woman

Except for people! The person's gender decides the word's gender

[balmy condor]

yeah i forget

thx for reminder

[foggy yarrow]

||Forgot*||

[balmy condor]

isnt Erik a norse name

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah but
Idk just a side thought

Ok here's another
Евгений vs Евгения

[balmy condor]

its fair

you can start with ie>

thats weird

[foggy yarrow]

Й is a "consonant"

[balmy condor]

ievgienij

[foggy yarrow]

Not gie, just ge
Sounds Japanese-y actually

Geh sound

Or ga
Ievganiy
Because ga is geh in "game"

[balmy condor]

how i'd know

[foggy yarrow]

By listening to native Russian speakers

Not me specifically, just people

[balmy condor]

my native language isnt english, im not used to words being individually different

[foggy yarrow]

I think trying to deconstruct the language as they speak helps a lot

[foggy yarrow]

Wdym

[balmy condor]

normally e is ie, but in that word its just e

[foggy yarrow]

This was a joke about English spelling

[foggy yarrow]

It's not the English e though, still the Russian e. It's just not the same

I don't know man 😭

[balmy condor]

i go by this

this was the easiest wasy for me to rmember

[foggy yarrow]

You should learn the IPA

[balmy condor]

whats that

[foggy yarrow]

It's an international alphabet. Reading it lets you pronounce almost any word while sounding nearly native

[balmy condor]

ah i get it

i know now

i can sort of already understand it

[foggy yarrow]

There's a youtube channel I often watch that teaches the IPA
https://youtu.be/ZDG-S4x_R0I?si=IACSX2dCwKxFuFTw

💀 he didn't make part 2 yet

[balmy condor]

ye but even still, the p8in still says its je

[foggy yarrow]

It's super simplified

The alphabet is at the level of tourist language guide

Romaji lets you read Japanese as a beginner, but it doesn't convey that Z sounds like Ц but with a Z instead of S

[balmy condor]

but its still je

[foggy yarrow]

Okay, I guess...

[balmy condor]

so then is there a special rule for gje to be ge or is it that word

[foggy yarrow]

I think it's after all consonants except з

Should I record a voice message for you to try to hear a difference?

I'll send anyway listen if you want

See, the consonant eats up that transition from i to e

[balmy condor]

i hear it

[balmy condor]

yes always, i like hearing you

[foggy yarrow]

Also
A friend of mine from Russia says I don't have an accent 😭

[balmy condor]

you definetly do

[foggy yarrow]

In Russian, not in English
That's a small feat for someone who is a native speaker, but I'm happy about it for some reason

[balmy condor]

ok well i cant judge it

i like hearing you because you're a good friend

@foggy yarrow whats with the reactions, it snot hard to imagine that you are

[foggy yarrow]

Wut

I
Am just embarassed to hear that a little

[balmy condor]

im glad i got to know you better

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow

[foggy yarrow]

Yay! It's a word I learned recently myself

[balmy condor]

whats grats

'congratulations'?

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah

No, we don't say "конгратуляции" or even have a similar word

Rare case where -tion ≠ -яция

We say "поздравляю", which means "I am congtatulating"

Etomologycally though, "поздравляю" comes from "здоров", which means "healthy, strong, thick, large". You'll see words that have "здрав", "здоров" often, this should make them easier to memorize

[balmy condor]

those 4 adjective fit sto somethign COMPLETELY different

[foggy yarrow]

Здравия желаю - a greeting used by soldiers
Здравствуйте - a formal greeting
Здравствуй - a less formal greeting, I think mostly used by higher ranked people when speaking to lower ranked people

[balmy condor]

Здравствуйте @foggy yarrow
because you deserve formal

i respecc

[foggy yarrow]

It makes sense in Russian. Also, you can understand what they mean by intonation

[balmy condor]

neat, i was only making a dick joke, but helpful nontheless

[foggy yarrow]

It was difficult to tell what you're trying to say because of the typos

[foggy yarrow]

Not how you greet your friends

Or classmates

You only say that to adults who you don't know closely or to adults who you know, but they're your boss

[foggy yarrow]

They really wrote this under the new osu update

For the curiosu:
Сися is a cutesy word for a boob
Попа is the butt (not a medical term)
Пися is a cutesy word for the peeing organ

[balmy condor]

pisya

lmao

ill stick with sis'ki

[foggy yarrow]

In Russian, there's "simple man language" and "proper language"

Cиськи is a simple man language, i.e. просторечие

[balmy condor]

i see that сь turns the s into an sh

[foggy yarrow]

Pardon?

[balmy condor]

i heard someone pronounce it that way

[foggy yarrow]

Сь is Ш?

Сишки?

I think they said сижки which is сигареты в просторечии

[balmy condor]

sigaret

hm

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah

[foggy yarrow]

Do you know what в does in this sentence

The word, not the letter

Actually there's only one в anyway

[balmy condor]

i dont, its probably a conjunction?

[foggy yarrow]

It means "in"

👍

[balmy condor]

ok preposition it is

[foggy yarrow]

IDK what those terms are not going to lie

cigarettes in simple speech

[balmy condor]

perpositon is just a wo4rd that indications sense of direction

or position

there, on, in, next to, left right

[foggy yarrow]

Oh I see

[balmy condor]

MAYBE I JUST

uised the wrong english word

[balmy condor]

cigarette in prostorechii

hm

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah

[balmy condor]

if someone sounds like its an eglish word

whats the chance its just that word that it sounds like

[foggy yarrow]

What

[balmy condor]

сигареты

[foggy yarrow]

Oh

[balmy condor]

just as a example

[foggy yarrow]

Very high chance that it sounds similar to English

Borrowed words are a thing in Russian

[balmy condor]

japanese is a borrowed language

makes sense then

[foggy yarrow]

Apparently, the word cigarette comes from French

[balmy condor]

english is also a borrowed language

[foggy yarrow]

Wut

[balmy condor]

japanese is 200 year old chinese

with some sprinkles

[foggy yarrow]

Japanese actually practices
I forgot what the term was but they're trying to create new words instead of loaning from English

[vast wharf]

a lot of sprinkles

too many sprinkles

[balmy condor]

I'm right

[foggy yarrow]

More like Japanese is Japanese but it uses Chinese characters because that's what lots of asian languages did back then

And then slapped hiragana and katakana later

They didn't understand Chinese, but wrote it

[vast wharf]

im sure they understood it, if they didnt, kanji would not have such similar meanings to chinese characters

nor pronunciation

[balmy condor]

Maybe I should write down the letters sometimes

Get a feel

[balmy condor]

https://youtu.be/x4_R1yUuzNI?si=KvMUveq5ccYcxK5b

@foggy yarrow ok but russian

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow !!!

I'm sitting in the bus and someone next to me is speaking rus

On their phone with someone, don't care all to much

[foggy yarrow]

Ask them about it
Wtf

[balmy condor]

No why

I don't social that hard

I don't recognize any words, but I can recognize it sounds Russian

"Бокас" is something I was able to pick

"там"

[balmy condor]

pal'chik vykin.
@foggy yarrow I just read this, you can also put ль ?

That's new to me

[foggy yarrow]

Wut

[balmy condor]

Or was that a typo

[foggy yarrow]

Пальчик выкинь?

Throw the finger away?

[balmy condor]

That context is tarkov related

I wouldn't know it that well

[foggy yarrow]

If it's tarkov it's not a typo most likely

[balmy condor]

Maybe a common saying

I was just interested about the ль

[foggy yarrow]

If it were common id know about it, don't you think

[balmy condor]

I couldn't tell if you knew or not

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah it sounds a bit french

[balmy condor]

I just assume you do, because I definitely dont

[foggy yarrow]

That's not a common saying then

[balmy condor]

Fair enough

So I'll just ignore it then

[foggy yarrow]

So that's what it was about

[balmy condor]

A lot of Russian

[foggy yarrow]

It's a game of elimination used to decide something

Kind of like a Russian janken

2 or more people put their fingers together in a circle

1 finger for each participant

One more finger points at a random finger each syllable of the chant: "чики брики пальчик выкинь". The last pointed finger is eliminated from the game

Last man standing wins

[foggy yarrow]

We do janken as well, but we call it "су-ли-фа"

[balmy condor]

Tf is janken

[foggy yarrow]

じゃんけん

Come on
Basic word that everyone should know

Rock paper scissors

[balmy condor]

I don't know what language that was

Janken could be Scandinavian

[foggy yarrow]

Noted

[balmy condor]

Original language first, Roman letters can be wonky

If it's Roman -> won't assume it's from different script

[foggy yarrow]

Do you need quotation marks around Russian quotes

[balmy condor]

Idk just give context of language

[foggy yarrow]

No I mean

When I explain Russian, do you really need the quotation marks?

They're a pain to type

[balmy condor]

Depende on the situation

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow

Oooh

Interesting

[foggy yarrow]

:)

[foggy yarrow]

https://youtu.be/kbSIW38BNPY
💀

@balmy condor did you know about the recent new word in Russian "олд"?

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't

[foggy yarrow]

It appeared 5 years ago

[balmy condor]

That word is old

:^)

[foggy yarrow]

It means "someone who has been there from the start"

Basically like OG role on this server

It's meant to show respect

[balmy condor]

Nah that's founder

[foggy yarrow]

Somewhat

[balmy condor]

Or if you wanna be nice to some others pre 2022 komimau

[foggy yarrow]

If e.g. a hobby exists for 10 years and you joined 8 years ago, you're an old

[balmy condor]

That's where I'm from

[foggy yarrow]

@timber arrow

Ong

[balmy condor]

Boah on Christmas day

[foggy yarrow]

Joined 2021

[balmy condor]

Did I get you here or did lux

[foggy yarrow]

I'm a founder

[balmy condor]

No

[foggy yarrow]

I joined through disboard

[balmy condor]

That's on server creation

That's 2020 komimau

[foggy yarrow]

Wtf

I was on baka gang

[balmy condor]

Damn

[foggy yarrow]

I lied to you

I only heard about it from ppl

[balmy condor]

Baka gang

What a place.

[balmy condor]

nice achievvement name

migayuccij kinzhal

@foggy yarrow sh with an accent confuses me

now its a weird CC ( as from the pinned message)

oh nice image

i dont know that phoenetic sound fuck me

[foggy yarrow]

Try reading the actual text without transcribing it into Latin alphabet

[balmy condor]

is there a difference

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah, it's faster if you don't waste your time doing that, and you also learn how to read

For now, just do your best pronouncing things, and listen to lots of Russian so that you know the difference

[balmy condor]

but dont i do that anyway trying to transcribe it

[balmy condor]

the ONE thing im too afraid to try, dont ask me why

[foggy yarrow]

No

We don't think in letters, we think in sounds

By reading Russian properly, you will directly translate the words into sounds

By transcribing them first, there's an extra step to that process

[balmy condor]

makes sense

[foggy yarrow]

And it's not even reliable

Like, you'll try to read Russian as if it's German. Which it is not

It's like sticking to romaji when learning Japanese

[foggy yarrow]

@balmy condor

Are you listening to Russian things

[balmy condor]

No

I'm just actually really lazy unless I'm really invested

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow lol

[foggy yarrow]

🐕

[balmy condor]

hmmm

something political person

[foggy yarrow]

Качать - to swing something
Качаться - to swing (yourself). Can also mean to work out, to build muscle, I'm assuming because often exercise is done by swinging a part of your body like a pendulum. Because of this, I imagine, the word "качать" now also has the meaning "to exercise a body part". For example, "качать мышцы" means to exercise your muscles, "качать бицепс" means to exercise your bicep, et cetera
Вкачать means to pump something in by some amount. For example, "вкачай воздуха в шину" means "pump in air once in tire". Gamers use this word when they talk about spending skill points in RPGs, and nowadays it can mean "to improve at something" (but older people don't know that new meaning).
And thus, "вкачал политику" means "someone improved at politics"

[balmy condor]

Boah

[foggy yarrow]

We say "вау" or "ого!" :)

[balmy condor]

as a reaction to somethign crazy?

[foggy yarrow]

As an expression of surprise

[balmy condor]

yeah thats about how we use boah in germany

good to know thank you

ill try to use that against you

[balmy condor]

oh nso like, let me try

[foggy yarrow]

Doesn't apply to bad surprises, like if a wolf suddenly attacks you

[balmy condor]

Вкачал русский (fuck I forgot how you conjugate this)

[foggy yarrow]

That's 100% correct though

[quick notch]

[balmy condor]

lets go

but i remeber you did conjugate that

[foggy yarrow]

The word Русский is already conjugated, and by itself it means "of Russian origin". Similarly, "американский" means "of American origin", for example.
When you say "русский", you usually pair it with a noun. But in the case of "вкачал русский", you're shortening "русский язык" by removing the noun

By the way, "русский" by itself can also mean "it is of Russian origin", or "Russian person"

[balmy condor]

oh thats cool

[foggy yarrow]

For other cultures, you use their specific words. "Казах" for Kazakh person, "немец" for German person, "англичанин" for English person

[foggy yarrow]

Similar case of such a shortening is "скорая", meaning "скорая помощь", meaning "скорая медицинская помощь", which means "quick/emergency medical help" (i.e. an ambulance)

[foggy yarrow]

By the way, Germany is Германия still. The word "немец" means "person from the place where people can't speak", implying German people can't speak a language (because it's from a different language group)
It doesn't hold a negative connotation at all though

[balmy condor]

we dont speak language

we speak angy

[foggy yarrow]

"немой" means "a mute person"

[balmy condor]

woudl theis get used against shy people

or the quiet kid in class

[foggy yarrow]

No, not at all. It would get used to mean people like Komi-san who can't speak at all

[balmy condor]

oh so its quite literal in its meaning

[foggy yarrow]

It doesn't mean mute as in doesn't make a sound

It means can't make a sound

[inner mango]

nazdrowie?

[balmy condor]

thats polish i belive

[inner mango]

in all fairness i have no idea which language this channel is

[balmy condor]

this is russian

the P is an R

:^)

[foggy yarrow]

That means "you're welcome", but if you translate it literally it means "on your health and wellbeing"

I explained it before, здоровый means healthy

I'm assuming you wrote what you heard when someone spoke Russian though

Could be different in polish

[inner mango]

from what ive been told in polish it's cheers

like when you take a drink

[foggy yarrow]

Ah, in Russian cheers is "за здоровье" or "za zdorowie" if you use latin alphabet

[inner mango]

oh i see

[balmy condor]

polish is cursed dont go there

every second letter in polish is russain >|<

[foggy yarrow]

Ж

Took me a while to figure out

[balmy condor]

Maybe >K is easier?

[foggy yarrow]

Definitely not
Idk how to do it

[balmy condor]

Oh well I was on pc

I don't have the keyboard layout memorized

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow honkai did the funny and decided to make an image rus

and i can at least read the letters out loud

understand nothing

[foggy yarrow]

:o

[foggy yarrow]

Voice message?

[balmy condor]

i will

i made it a V instead of a B lmao

[foggy yarrow]

:oooo

That's so good, I understood like, everything

[balmy condor]

a

[foggy yarrow]

"О событии" felt wrong a little

[balmy condor]

yeah i

[foggy yarrow]

You didn't make the double И either

You basically have to stop and then say another И

[balmy condor]

oh lmao

i misread that as an M

[foggy yarrow]

Miraculously, you got all the stress accents correctly

[balmy condor]

those being

[foggy yarrow]

Ве́стник иска́телей
Собы́тии

When a syllable is stressed, it's slightly longer and you put more effort into the sound

[balmy condor]

i feel like i have seen the double vowel seperate sound in other lanmguages before

oh right jp

[foggy yarrow]

Japanesne
Let me demonstrate stress accent on the word "demonstrate"

[balmy condor]

demonsuturato

[foggy yarrow]

The stress accent is on the "stra" syllable

[balmy condor]

trol

[foggy yarrow]

reto, not rato

[foggy yarrow]

No I'm wrong it's on de

Can you hear it

Or is it

I think two are accurate, but demónstrate is definitely wrong

[balmy condor]

i hear it

first heavy on O and then A

or rather the AY

[foggy yarrow]

That's what the stress accent is, and most languages have it

It's difficult in Russian. Not as difficult as pitch accent in Japanese

But just like in Japanese, there's no real identifier when you read words

[balmy condor]

ill be fine

[foggy yarrow]

Only if you listen to lots of Russian

[quick notch]

[foggy yarrow]

Listen to lots of Russian... Pls...

[foggy yarrow]

Would you like a YouTube channel on cars? It mostly has documentaries

Also things like how to buy a car, driving advice, etc

Very high quality AND they hired someone to write English subs

For some videos at least

[balmy condor]

a

[foggy yarrow]

I'll take that as a yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HbEl-2n5AQ

This video is about

Why electric cars didn't take off despite being better

There were multiple historical moments when electric cars could've dominated the market, but couldn't because there was always someone who made internal combustion more convenient

[balmy condor]

kak heft'

whats heft'

(sorry im transcribing when on PC)

[foggy yarrow]

Is it heft' or neft'

[balmy condor]

fuck its neft

[foggy yarrow]

Neft is oil

Decayed dinosaurs

?

[balmy condor]

not specifically just dinos

[foggy yarrow]

Not just any type of oil but specifically that

[balmy condor]

but they definetly contributed

[foggy yarrow]

Mostly was a joke

I just wanted to clarify which kind

It's a for sale fossil

Mmm you probably already know that, but when you learn Russian by reading English subs, don't expect the order of words to be the same
Apparently, I got lucky when learning Japanese through anime sub, because people assume that Japanese is just English with some words translated

[balmy condor]

yeah thats normal

ESPECIALLY english to german

never lines up

[foggy yarrow]

Good that you're aware

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow I'm standing here, and there are 3 people closeby speaking Russian

Lmao

I can't understand shit, once again

Funny if you can hear something

They went crazy just now

Called their friend сука

[foggy yarrow]

how do you know it's russian

[balmy condor]

Sounds Like It to me

[foggy yarrow]

it is Russian, but why do you know that it isn't another slavic language?

[balmy condor]

I don't

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, that's how you learn

It's pretty much guessing with some intuition

[foggy yarrow]

it is russian though congrats

[balmy condor]

Nice

Don't know what they said

But oh well, still my intuition isn't entirely wrong

[balmy condor]

wow russain vtuber

i cant hear shit

in tetris

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow can you give me some words for me to test if I can do R better

If i keep putting that thought into my head eventually it should be natural right

[foggy yarrow]

Ребята - guys
Работа - arbeiten
Ротор - rotor
Рэп - rap
Рубль - rouble
Рынок - market
Рядом - nearby
Рис - rice
Рюкзак - backpack

[balmy condor]

Alright

[balmy condor]

Almost did them all one shot

Oh I did е wrong again

Silly me

[foggy yarrow]

Wow it's all wrong

You really can't do the rolling R huh

[balmy condor]

Not something I'm used to

[foggy yarrow]

You sound like you have rhotacism

[balmy condor]

Nice fancy word

[foggy yarrow]

Nvm I'm wrong

In Russian there's a word for that

Rfhn

Картавость

[balmy condor]

At least I'm attempting

[foggy yarrow]

Well, it's not a speech impediment

It's a standard in German

[balmy condor]

So accent related maybe

[foggy yarrow]

Not really

Wait I realized you don't mean what I think you mean

It's a German accent I guess?

Among native speakers though, it's a speech impediment

[balmy condor]

I've been told I have different accents when I speak English

The R sound you hear in my recording is probably as good as it's gonna get

It's closer than not rolling though

So it's probably better

[foggy yarrow]

Don't give up

There was a time when I was stuck with the stromal stereotype Russian accent

I'm a lot better now

[balmy condor]

If I'd listen to videos it'd be helpful

But I'm too shy and lazy to do it

[foggy yarrow]

Use headphones and replace a portion of your normal videos with videos in Russian

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[left sun]

https://youtu.be/RRv6s_ChTw4 dunno if this was shared before

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow пока sounds a lot like ばか, I blame myself

[foggy yarrow]

in Russian lots of words that are shared with English and other languages often have a different meaning

Конфуз - confusion, but also an argument
Аргумент - a point that supports your opinion in an argument, NOT the argument itself

[balmy condor]

konfus is similar

its german

[foggy yarrow]

Russian has its own words for argument, which is probably from proto-slavic. "Ссора" is for the bad kind of argument, where you are basically verbally fighting with the other person. And "беседа", "дебат", "дискуссия" for a proper, intellectual discourse

[balmy condor]

debat is cool

its close to german again

debatte

[foggy yarrow]

Дебпты, haa ti be plural

[mossy bluff]

@balmy condor
Будь спокоен is like the most Pacific way it's like , be quiet/calm
Замолчи it's like silence but quite more aggressive a little bit

Заткнись is shut up but I feel it like a way worse to say shut up , russian we will understand what I mean with worse , we can have 4 ways to say a curse word to low to harder and it means the same xD

Тишина it's like silence

[balmy condor]

I like that

спасибо

I wanna learn more
But I'm so lazy to do what nweh tells me

[foggy yarrow]

Будь спокоен sounds weird to me, I think успокойся is like, way way more common

[mossy bluff]

I mean they told me both so idk

[foggy yarrow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Расслабься is very similar as well

[mossy bluff]

My mom used but spokoina when she was more angry to me xD and uspakoisa to normal

Yeah but is more for relax

Not to silence

[foggy yarrow]

успокойся is more of a "keep calm" than "be silent"

Тише is the closest word we have

[mossy bluff]

I'm talking about this one

[mossy bluff]

It actually can be both XD my mom used it on both

[balmy condor]

https://youtu.be/0wqAoopCe7Q?si=pfWCDbr7n8wm79pf

Damn

@foggy yarrow lmao help

nyaya lmao

I got through all of it, trying to make the sounds

I'm struggling, but it's working

[foggy yarrow]

help with what

[inner mango]

my lad blundered so hard he took the blyat' out

[balmy condor]

Quite a few times iirc

[balmy condor]

Understanding, I don't understand anything

[foggy yarrow]

Those are just descriptions of a girl

[balmy condor]

Descriptive words are helpful to know, no?

[foggy yarrow]

The prompt says "she speaks with you because you're a pleasant human, she is going through the trial of attachment

[foggy yarrow]

Use a dictionary
good natured, pleasant looks, black jacket, light colored dress with green inserts, medium breasts, soft thighs

[balmy condor]

Nice

[balmy condor]

I don't have something irl, suggest something you know online?

Like jisho

[foggy yarrow]

wiktionary

mostly because I like reading the etymology

[balmy condor]

Ok makes sense

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow lol wtf

JEJE

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow how this work

[foggy yarrow]

It's about stress accent

Depending on the stress accent, it's either one word or the other

[balmy condor]

Is that hard to differentiate in context?(text wise)

[foggy yarrow]

In text you don't even show the stress accent

Which is primarily what makes reading Russian more difficult

You can use the wrong stress accent, but you will sound weird, and there's no reason not to because your language also uses stress accent already

[balmy condor]

Nice

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah you just get it from context

[balmy condor]

PISS ON YOUR CONTRACT

[foggy yarrow]

There's no way this is happening in Russian
First of all, "to sign" is "подписать". If you use the wrong stress accent, it makes no sense.
Second of all, "Please sign your contract" is "пожалуйста подпишите ваш контракт". Now the 'с' is a 'ш' there's no way you're mistaking it

[left sun]

same can be said for english tho

present vs present

[balmy condor]

It was just a joke

[balmy condor]

Present Vs present Vs present

[left sun]

yes

[foggy yarrow]

I know that it's a joke, but I dislike it when jokes make no sense

🤓

[balmy condor]

My main humor is nonsense

[left sun]

why you gotta be like that

[left sun]

you could've just said "ye i know it's a joke but i'm just saying"

you convey the fact that you didn't care about the joke plus you're explaining why you said what you said, without discrediting his sense of humor

[balmy condor]

Lux Type emotional damage

[foggy yarrow]

It's funny in English, but you can't really retell it in Russian

Which is very sad because it's a Russian language subreddit

[left sun]

i mean lots of people are there to learn russian, no?

so english jokes involving russian isn't bad

shouldn't be a reason to gatekeep

imo

if anything, jokes give people an opportunity to learn even more, even if the joke doesn't make sense in russian, so there isn't anything to be sad about

[foggy yarrow]

Is Erik still learning

I am the duolingo bird

[balmy condor]

not actively, passively

i may just pickup random stuff

[foggy yarrow]

[balmy condor]

as long as im in school still, i wont try, to not make myeslef too onfused with other stuff

[foggy yarrow]

A word that I don't think has an equivalent in English: Атмосферный

It means "a fictional story that has vibes around it"

Like how five nights at Freddy's doesn't just look like a dark room where you are a guard looking into security cameras, you feel like you ARE the guard in a real dark room with security cameras

[balmy condor]

Yeah

Atmosphere

The setting and feel of a place fictional or real

[balmy condor]

How to make a word russian
Add ый always works

[foggy yarrow]

That's just for adjectives tho

But yeah
Any word that has greek or latin roots, add ый to make it Russian

[balmy condor]

Oh so that's common

Good to know

[foggy yarrow]

I imagine it's not as easy as that

[balmy condor]

Probably isn't

But it makes sense

If the rest looks like a word from English, but with extra stuff, there is a good chance there is a bridge right

And false friends then too right

I'm just drawing conclusions from other languages here so

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah and that bridge is usually being influenced by latin or greek in the past

[balmy condor]

Latin and Greek influencing everything be like

Yeah I influenced tons of languages, how can you tell

[balmy condor]

Nice, I was fully expecting myself to be wrong

[inner mango]

like saying to make any spanish word change the last vowel to o or a in a french word

[foggy yarrow]

In Russia, there's a city called Набережные Челны

If you're a kid in 4th grade with childish humor

You will read it as "набережные члены"

Член of course being the Russian word for "member", and also the biological term for "penis"

The city is often mispronounced as "coast penises"

[balmy condor]

me

coast penises hehehehe

[foggy yarrow]

#🚫︱horni level nsfw (trust me it's for Erik to study)

@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

cant read nice

[foggy yarrow]

I thought you knew the alphabet?

[balmy condor]

nah i cna dw

but words

[foggy yarrow]

You should really try reading something in Russian but like, with a dictionary in the other hand

[balmy condor]

zhizn' goes hard

[foggy yarrow]

Zhizn' is life

[foggy yarrow]

I hope my speech is easy to understand?

We actually have a word for "how clean and understandable your speech is": Ди́кция

The diacritic is there to display the stress accent

[balmy condor]

it is

i have to follow the text to hear better tho

[foggy yarrow]

That's fine

It's actually how I got good at listening to English speech

[foggy yarrow]

Fun fact
The root of the word for obesity, "ожирение", is "жир", which means fat

I don't think anyone sees it as fatphobic, but if you say "жирный" which changes "fat" to an adjective, it suddenly becomes fatphobic

Oh wow, I imagined "fat" to be fatphobic, but apparently it's allowed

Interesting, because for most other terms, they change to a different term instead of trying to reform an existing one

[balmy condor]

I don't have a physical book for that

[foggy yarrow]

You have two devices

A phone and a PC

[balmy condor]

Yeah I don't know what site to look it up on

[foggy yarrow]

Google translate

[balmy condor]

Really

I only trust it for German into English

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah most of the time it should work

If you want a human-made website, use wiktionary

[foggy yarrow]

@balmy condor do you have Russian friends

[balmy condor]

you

and 2 others

[foggy yarrow]

Tell them

"ты лалка"
They'll probably feel super nostalgic about it

It's a meme insult of like 10 year old kids back in 2014-2016

The insult means "someone who is being made fun of". Presumably comes from the word "LOL"

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow just read something on a wall

'нитуп баиух'

Can't read it well

It's probably diff language but I'm asking anyway

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah different language, if a language at all

Could be tatar

[balmy condor]

Also the и and б I estimated

и and б was reversed

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow https://youtu.be/f--UUHGg_Mc?si=xGeVmxaKpUJ0IWem

Found a random russian music vid

From a genshin vid

Sounds good

[foggy yarrow]

@balmy condor живу means "I am living"

Now you can understand the sentence

[balmy condor]

https://youtu.be/0q6yphdZhUA?si=pL5XxZEi3kHYtM_V

Trololololo

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow o swear I'll learn better!!!!

[foggy yarrow]

Lol

[foggy yarrow]

@balmy condor would you like a tv series on scammers in Russian

Seems good I'm on episode 1

[balmy condor]

im probably not gonna watch if you do
blame me, i dont do enough for rus atm
dont wanna be mean but i just want to be honest with you

but if you want to send feel free to

being able to scroll back for stuff is good

[foggy yarrow]

Nah it's 100% alright I don't do anything for Japanese either

Has some nsfw

[balmy condor]

i dont care abotu nfswe or not

im a hentai enthusiast

i can handle a lot of things

[foggy yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5bAPb-z6LbQrbw9sFFB1MW0TaUzlp981

[balmy condor]

nsfw in terms of, now that im asking

[foggy yarrow]

Has a woman wearing lingerie in front of a man

[balmy condor]

ah ye thats fine

thats like

[foggy yarrow]

And seducing him

[balmy condor]

movie type nsfe

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah it's on youtube, it has to be legal

[foggy yarrow]

It's in Russian but there's some in Kazakh

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow

Love cats

[foggy yarrow]

cta

[foggy yarrow]

O

Just realized общество (society) comes from общий (general)

It basically means "the generality"

General as in "generally", not as in the military rank

[foggy yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyhOXCjfBIg

[balmy condor]

probably slightly incorrect

[foggy yarrow]

Ламповое видео, и очень смешное
https://youtu.be/u4ZtCuxMls0

[foggy yarrow]

https://youtu.be/MWESvdY70YI?si=1DoPhtYyw6nW658U

@balmy condor @mossy bluff

[foggy yarrow]

:((((

[balmy condor]

Understood nothing nice

[foggy yarrow]

Translation word by word;
Now you for everything will answer
Da how at you this works out?

[mild wave]

@foggy yarrow, you've reached level 86! ☄️

[foggy yarrow]

Thx

[balmy condor]

Love grammar

[foggy yarrow]

Ye

English with Russian grammar

[balmy condor]

Funny, squeeze

[foggy yarrow]

I wonder how much Ukrainian I need to listen to in order to understand it

[foggy yarrow]

So romantic

[balmy condor]

vtf

[foggy yarrow]

"I wanna pee"
The whole world is your toilet, ruby
pees
wtf?
"You are my world, onii-chan"

[balmy condor]

i cant read the uh

the Us at the bottom

( iknow theyre not u's but ou know)

[foggy yarrow]

ИИ?

[balmy condor]

thats I?

wtf

[foggy yarrow]

Онии-чан

but handwriting

[balmy condor]

onii chan

nice

[balmy condor]

oh so its 'you, my world'

[foggy yarrow]

Yep

There's a word for "is" in Russian, "есть",

but it's usually dropped

[balmy condor]

so basically

'are' and the lieks dont exist

[foggy yarrow]

somewhat yeah

No one says "есть" in that context anymore

If you're reading a wikipedia article, you will see "X - это..."

"Это" means "it"

Since "есть" is dropped here, technically if you direct translate that into English, you'll get "X - it is..."

By the way, I have a suspicion that both "это есть" and "it is" came from the latin "id est"

"id est" is still used in English, except it's shortened to "i.e." and no one knows what the long form is except for few people like me

[balmy condor]

ты мой любимый казахский, вэроника
i tried something

(looked up 2 words i didnt know yet)

[foggy yarrow]

My name is Вероника lol

[balmy condor]

fuck off maaaan

i was basing it off of the way i pronounced it

[foggy yarrow]

I can see you're trying your best

[balmy condor]

i also typed that on my keyboard, despite not knowing where the kleys are

[foggy yarrow]

"Казахский" means "from the Kazakh nation". Usually traditional stuff, or to say "made in Kazakh(stan)", or to mean "the Kazakh language"

[balmy condor]

i only puy in 'kazakh' to translate

i hjust trusted it

[foggy yarrow]

Direct translations are never going to show nuance

[balmy condor]

should i just try my best with a rus - eng dict online instead

[foggy yarrow]

yes

[foggy yarrow]

Try reading a textbook

[balmy condor]

cant, dont have rus stuff here

[foggy yarrow]

You'll learn all the conjugations and stuff

[balmy condor]

i'd have to ask my parents to buy

[foggy yarrow]

Get it online

[balmy condor]

i cant pay online

[foggy yarrow]

Get it online for free

When you know textbook Russian, you'll become a hatchling. Your job will be reading more colloquial Russian

[balmy condor]

for now im a

get ready

a tourist

gasp

[foggy yarrow]

You're coming to Russia?

Or to Kazakhstan?

[balmy condor]

no

a language tourist

cant spell

i would not go alone, i dont have the fund anyway

im sure you people are wonderful though

[balmy condor]

ok then so based off what i saw

каза́х should then be correct right (it even gave me the stress accent)

[foggy yarrow]

Yesss

"A Kazakh person"

[balmy condor]

nice

if i say or spell somethign wrong

dont correct me

say im wrong

make me look it up

[foggy yarrow]

aight

[left sun]

you're wrong

[balmy condor]

pons rus-eng tells me 'this is' instead of just this

can be both?

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah

I mean, kinda no

We don't have "is" in the language really

You don't say "I am tetris player", you say "I tetris player"

Just like that, "это" means it. "It game console" instead of "it is a game console"

[balmy condor]

Ah

[foggy yarrow]

If you say "это есть игровая приставка", it's not wrong but you sound weird and like you're from the 15th century bc

[balmy condor]

What was есть again

[foggy yarrow]

Usually means "exists"

But can mean "is". Except it's never used in that meaning p much

Like the only case I can think of is "я есть Грут"

[balmy condor]

Because that's not your grammar works right

[foggy yarrow]

It's how it used to work

Heck, it was a different word back then. "Есмь"

[foggy yarrow]

This means "I am Groot"

[balmy condor]

Well not now then I suppose

[foggy yarrow]

Yeah, why am I even explaining it

[balmy condor]

Past trauma

[foggy yarrow]

https://youtu.be/RiAdYuN_XAA?si=iNyheiqRa1R_dWyP
@balmy condor

[balmy condor]

Understood nothing but animation funny

[foggy yarrow]

Ugh

Funny Russian stress accent moment

Мука́ - baking flour
Му́ка - agony

Fun fact, in Russian "му́ка" is a countable. You wouldn't normally count it like "одна́ му́ка, две му́ки", but you can say "му́ки" to mean the plural

[balmy condor]

Му́ка мука́

My favourite

[balmy condor]

How do you have multiple agonies

[foggy yarrow]

It's basically a moment of agony vs multiple moments of agony

Also I could be using the wrong word in English

"torment" is what google translate picked

So yeah, torment vs torments

[balmy condor]

Ok sure that's more logical

[foggy yarrow]

https://youtu.be/AC8V_z5x9mI?si=GJbujC8YxwI2fJxm

I read the manga and the light novel, to be honest it's very underwhelming

But I think the idea of a ||half|| Japanese girl speaking Russian to you is very funny

Music makes it hard to hear, but the voice actress is goooood

I'll watch the anime just for the VA lol

More Russian in this video
https://youtu.be/_tqdmJOgfX0?si=DiVpQC2GycUQw-xZ

I think it's very cute 😭😭😭

[balmy condor]

Хахаха

Смешно

https://en.openrussian.org just found this

what do yu think of it

waow it has the words pronounced

if money ggs i die

[foggy yarrow]

Idk

Omg they want money and they use emojis unironically

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow look what pons can do

[foggy yarrow]

Ват из понс

[balmy condor]

pons is cool translator

i bet google translate couldnt do it

[foggy yarrow]

:О

[balmy condor]

'what is pons?'

dictionary with translator function

[foggy yarrow]

Ноу, ит кян абсолютли

[foggy yarrow]

Интересно

[balmy condor]

you devil

[balmy condor]

oh i understand that already

i assume taht means interetsting

without looing it up rn

[foggy yarrow]

I just thought it would be cool for you to practice Russian :(

[balmy condor]

nah nah

keep going

i say that as a joke

[foggy yarrow]

Еа, ай уилл реплейс обвиус вордс фром Рашн, со ю андестэнд

[balmy condor]

fuck

[foggy yarrow]

Лмао

[balmy condor]

do russians even use it that way

[foggy yarrow]

Ноуп, нэ́ва

[balmy condor]

нэ́ва

assumed so

[balmy condor]

noup, is tahtr eal tho, seems close enough but im curious if it is

[foggy yarrow]

Иф ю донт пут зе стресс акцент, ит бекамс нэва́ инстед, джаст дазнт саунд райт

[foggy yarrow]

Итс а слэнг ворд

[balmy condor]

a lot to translate over, a bit fast

[foggy yarrow]

Бтв "слэнг" из а ворд ин Рашн

[foggy yarrow]

Sorry I thought you were somewhat comfortable with the alphabet already

[balmy condor]

i am

i can read it if i tried

i am also taws hsoting rn

so im half trying

[foggy yarrow]

You can read later

Enjoy being the host

[balmy condor]

this is what i see

[balmy condor]

i can read it and say what you're saying, thats how i was able to decipher and ask you about cwertain words

[foggy yarrow]

Can I participate

[balmy condor]

this is TAWS

thatss ss cap

taws u is u cap

you can enter that

you need to be in their discord server

[foggy yarrow]

Noooo I want to play the ss rankers

[balmy condor]

#🧱︱tetris is teh 2nd most russian channel beasides this one

[balmy condor]

gonna read it

[balmy condor]

translator is weird and said obus

but i look agai, and understand obvious

damn you're good at hiding

i didnt uynderstand at first ebcause at first i didnt read that hard

[foggy yarrow]

Bruh what I'm writing English with Cyrillic

[balmy condor]

i didnt know at first

but after looking at it harder

i realize it now

[foggy yarrow]

??? Why do you use a translator

[balmy condor]

^

[foggy yarrow]

Ah ok

[foggy yarrow]

Are you getting better at Cyrillic

[balmy condor]

i think so

i can read if you do it in that way

[balmy condor]

@foggy yarrow thats so me

[foggy yarrow]

Lol

[balmy condor]

cool

even the language level bs

im replacing @foggy yarrow

[foggy yarrow]

This looks good

Are you in a mood to get some serious studying?

[balmy condor]

at 11.45pm

no

i have holidays in a few days

i was crurious

looked up some shit

[balmy condor]

э́то круто́й

[foggy yarrow]

Nah
Вы́глядит кру́то

Or э́то кру́то

[balmy condor]

hm

[foggy yarrow]

If you're saying э́то круто́й, you have to follow it up with a male gender word

[balmy condor]

but not for 'кру́то' ?

[foggy yarrow]

Yep
Idk what the rules are

[balmy condor]

dude so me with german lmao

i know whats right and wrong

explaining i could never

'we do it like this, idk why but i know that we do'

[foggy yarrow]

Basically, they have the same meaning, but they're not the same type

It's like trying to add 1 + "1"

If you programmed before I think you'll get it

[balmy condor]

syntax error

[foggy yarrow]

Type error...

[balmy condor]

i forgot what exact error

i know this is wrong however

[foggy yarrow]

Both are number one, but one is an integer while the other is a string

[balmy condor]

yeha i learned this recently

just i cant remember what type of error

[foggy yarrow]

Syntax errors have to do with ignoring the rules of how to express things in the language
Type errors have to do with doing something with a type that it's not supposed to do

[balmy condor]

вы кру́то 👍

[foggy yarrow]

Крутой*

[balmy condor]

дерьмо

[foggy yarrow]

Круто is a pretty casual word so it still sounds wrong. Like, you wouldn't say "cool" in court for example

[balmy condor]

its not casual to you cool, or is the 'you' in this case super formal?

[foggy yarrow]

The cool is too casual
Вы is not super formal

[balmy condor]

well fuck me i guess, i cant get an exact 'you' then, i didnt want to ask and surpirse you a bit

what is the normal 'you'

[foggy yarrow]

Ты

[balmy condor]

fuck, i knew this, and forgot

Ты кру́то
just only casual should be ok right

[foggy yarrow]

You use "ты" in these cases:

1. Parents. Some say "вы" though
2. People around your age when you're young. As a rule of thumb ±1 year for people under 25
3. People who are you close with

[foggy yarrow]

Крутой!!!!

[balmy condor]

god dammit

[foggy yarrow]

In any other case, you use Вы

Probably not exhaustive

[balmy condor]

12am
im going now, continue with your knowledge ill read later

[foggy yarrow]

Can you do this tongue twister

https://youtu.be/IlFCObblhQU?si=_4QC9ir105BF4WtZ

[balmy condor]

That's a long boy

[foggy yarrow]

💀

"главный" means "the main"

Firamir was someone in 2016 who did his own drama on YouTube about fighting his friend or something. It was two years long and scripted, he did stuff like crying on camera, boxing, faking injuries (or getting injured on purpose), etc

I'm gonna let you figure out the word "хейтер"

[balmy condor]

I can't guess it from pronouncing it

[foggy yarrow]

It's "hater"

Haters gonna hate

[balmy condor]

Makes sense

[foggy yarrow]

Top 10 confusing language things

In Kazakh, we have two words for green: көк and жасыл. However, the former also means blue

The latter is a newer word

So we always use the ambiguous word when it's obvious which color you mean (e.g. blue sky vs green grass), and the other when you want specifically green (i.e. green dress)

[balmy condor]

i had a lil fun and changed the language

now i understand basically nothing