and they speak pretty clearly except for shi vs si maybe
#日本語
full mauve
i gotta admit that southern accents usually sound a lot better than pth tho
they just sound a lot softer somehow
no idea how bad singapore is but i guess i wont understand anything
dusky carbon
no idea how bad singapore is but i guess i wont understand anything
similar to southern ig? its just really watery
the shi vs si thing is something singapore does (and us too cus malaysians speak mandarin very similarly to singaporeans)
i could quite literally give you a free trial of what its like to listen to singaporeans speaking in mandarin 💀
fuck i just realised we're in the jp channel
dusky carbon
almost the same language anyways
close enough
dusky carbon
[kmm_chikayay](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/904328027020873738.gif?size=48&...
i dont think a convo would be a good idea so ill just record me reading a short text or something and send it later
i aint gonna understand you im chinese by ethnicity not by nationality 😔✊
abstract mist
Capybara
full mauve
确实好像南方的方言哈哈哈哈哈
even 天气 sounds so weird
i need to do more listening immersion
btw my voice msg was just a random 东宫 line 
dusky carbon
btw my voice msg was just a random 东宫 line <:kmm_whotowel:1194363057120481360>
i consume zero chinese media so
chatgpt it is
wanted some kindergarten level xiao ming ahh story anyway
dusky carbon
确实好像南方的方言哈哈哈哈哈
我都说了 :p 我们马来西亚和新加坡人就是这样说话，所以你这样的口音对我们来说算是很厉害的哈哈
abstract mist
even 天气 sounds so weird
気 without the メ
hearty socket
But this is the Japanese channel lol
full mauve
But this is the Japanese channel lol
われみやこせつりょう = 我都说了
hearty socket
われみやこせつりょう = 我都说了
SENO-thanks
abstract mist
われみやこせつりょう = 我都说了
Waremi koseturyo ?
cursive dock
abstract mist
Instagram
plush merlinBOT
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DK4WmVahCiI/?igsh=Z3Q4N2VoemZvb3J0
dusky carbon
had a stroke
full mauve
https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DK4WmVahCiI/
池袋弁 😭
she speaks better chinese than me and she isnt even speaking chinese
forest condor
what does this have to do with the boxes above it
full mauve
what does this have to do with the boxes above it
good... food
full mauve
also i really dont wanna visit vietnam in summer
forest condor
damn i wish my mom would go to vietnam with me
full mauve
also vietnma has good beaches i g
i actually didnt want to go to vietnam at first but my mom forced me
after seeing the prices i supported the idea tho
vietnam might be the cheapest country i ever visited
now we just have to somehow not get ripped off
forest condor
now we just have to somehow not get ripped off
you could get ripped off and it would still be the cheapest country you ever visited
full mauve
japan was also very cheap tbf
except for clothes
discord still cant process heic
what a joke
full mauve
byee
some pics of kagoshima
i really wanna go there agian but get a car next time
quartz stream
Bro that second photo is pure cinema holy it looks great
full mauve
i wish i had an actual camera during my trip, i took all the pics with manual mode on my samsung 😭
my fav is still the 1st pic cuz it just gives me nostalgia of kyushu lol
kyushu be like
random shrine in the middle of nowhere with palm trees ✅
tawdry otter
i wish i had an actual camera during my trip, i took all the pics with manual mo...
canon
full mauve
bugt canon nice
what
tawdry otter
nothin
abstract mist
X
abstract mist
I'm currently at the horizontal bit at the beginning
hearty socket
lmao f
cursive dock
i had a daburu bacon chiizubaagaa yesterday
hearty socket
https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DHUNghcy_m1/
The second voice sounds like a Japanese @empty folio
hearty socket
wait ikinda hear it
I know right
@dusky carbon
That's exactly her way of speaking too
empty folio
😭
dusky carbon
That's exactly her way of speaking too
kinda
quartz stream
quartz stream
I'm planning on doing a homestay in japan for a week next year
it's way cheaper than staying in a hotel (4000 yen a night / £20), for a really nice room in a japanese familys home
they cook you meals, take you to places
just seems like a no brainer
quartz stream
I wish I could ignore it but there has been many times where I’ve seen it used 😭
cursive dock
yea can't skip
as for N5 kanji, it's probably better to learn vocab with kanji, instead of the kanji directly
quartz stream
Yes I probably will
hearty socket
it's way cheaper than staying in a hotel (4000 yen a night / £20), for a really ...
thats a rent of 600
cursive dock
quartz stream
abstract mist
@quartz stream @cursive dock @full mauve Spoke with Japanese people irl (I'm one of the people on this picture)
Got jouzu'd at the end
full mauve
are you the blond haired girl
abstract mist
are you the blond haired girl
I wish
A friend of mine works at that company. Apparently they let people from Kazakhstan work in Japan
full mauve
I wish
A friend of mine works at that company. Apparently they let people from K...
r ur eyes closed or open
abstract mist
Closed 💀
full mauve
knew it
abstract mist
I mean, they were open, but I look like they're closed
cursive dock
<@864261444915691521> <@729675536380592199> <@142570933322776577> Spoke with Jap...
the leftmost person, the girl with glasses is you
abstract mist
the leftmost person, the girl with glasses is you
No sorry I am not a girl in this picture
Flx
Do you think I should go to Japan and work at a ブラック会社
hearty socket
<@864261444915691521> <@729675536380592199> <@142570933322776577> Spoke with Jap...
youre hidden perfectly because you also look asian
abstract mist
youre hidden perfectly because you also look asian
||I am terrible at smiling idk why I did that||
I somehow figured out that 農業 means 畑作り
@full mauve you hear that mr flx
Get on my level
quartz stream
Poggers I have studied enough katakana to now read the komimau tag as komimau
yayyyyyyyy
(I already knew it said that but actually being able to read it is very cool)
quartz stream
Chat these katakana combinations to make English noises are pmo
It was so easy until these mfs decided to exist
hearty socket
Chat these katakana combinations to make English noises are pmo
wadzu miin
quartz stream
Yes
cursive dock
daburu bacon chiizubaagaa
quartz stream
chat I've finished katakana and I'm finally learning kanji and I already wanna kms
tf you mean I got to remember the like 4 different ways one kanji can be used
abstract mist
tf you mean I got to remember the like 4 different ways one kanji can be used
Remember words, not kanji, and it shall become easier to remember
cursive dock
yea not worth learning the kanji themselves
learn vocab with kanji (and test yourself to read vocab without furigana)
quartz stream
Ik that’s what I’m doing
quartz stream
actually that's a lie I thought I was but I don't think my deck had vocab as well
anyone got any good n5 vocab + kanji decks? c:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/310759435 might try this one
cursive dock
anyone got any good n5 vocab + kanji decks? c:
core 2k
quartz stream
Is that good for N5 though, I don’t want to learn stuff above my level atm :v
cursive dock
i think @forest condor studied using core 6k :o
quartz stream
I c
cursive dock
Is that good for N5 though, I don’t want to learn stuff above my level atm :v
it's designed to be studied in order, the cards are laid out that way
quartz stream
Forget about n5 it’s useless
Maybe but I like having a goal, it helps keep me on track
quartz stream
it's designed to be studied in order, the cards are laid out that way
Ah okay
quartz stream
Idk I just feel like I’ve I do that if will be overwhelming
forest condor
Or how about, finishing your first vn/ln
forest condor
Watching your first unengsubbed anime
quartz stream
Haha I see
I think for me I just like structure
I don’t like studying aimlessly
I really struggle with that so I like now JLPT just has a set of vocab and kanji you learn for each stage
So it just splits it out for me
forest condor
I really struggle with that so I like now JLPT just has a set of vocab and kanji...
It doesnt tho
They literally removed it because of people who wants to optimize for the test, which makes it less effective as a language test
quartz stream
Oh really
winged walrusBOT
I hate this meme.
quartz stream
https://www.jlpt.jp/sp/e/faq/index.html
Interesting
abstract mist
Or how about, finishing your first vn/ln
Is this a challenge
cursive dock
zumi gone
quartz stream
Sad times
abstract mist
@quartz stream do you want to race who reads a light novel faster
@full mauve what was the light novel about uwaki
The one with NTR
彼女に浮気された俺は異世界で菩薩剣聖になってハーレムを作る
Idk
You used to read it like 2 years ago
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> what was the light novel about uwaki
idk
tawdry otter
man kanji just wont stick in my brain :v
Just give it time
You wont know from one day to another
quartz stream
yeeeee ik
tawdry otter
Doing it daily and consistency is more important
quartz stream
ye
tawdry otter
Nice
quartz stream
hopefully
full mauve
the more kanji u know the easier it will get
cuz most kanjis are just made up of base kanji (radicals)
菜 采 stuff like this
quartz stream
yes I'm learning radicals right now
I'm using wanikani to learn at least the first few, and that's the first thing they take you through
don't roast me for the tools I use again, I know I could just use anki but I personally find wanikani better for me
as they give good mnemonic examples to remember certain things, and I used another one of their tools to like hiragana and katakana in the first place and it was the only thing that worked for me lol
just sucks you gotta pay for it at a certain stage which idk if I will
full mauve
don't roast me for the tools I use again, I know I could just use anki but I per...
i dont think its a problem lol
you use what works for u
quartz stream
haha fair enough
cursive dock
quartz stream
Umamusume
hearty socket
quartz stream
Why did bro turn into a jojo character
quartz stream
Would it be better for me to just learn vocab before even looking at kanji
I’ve tried doing both at the same time bur nothing is sticking :v
And also it’s just confusing when some have multiple meanings and stuff I just don’t get it
cursive dock
yea i got to the point where i was memorizing the meaning of kanji but it barely helped once i tried learning vocab
learning vocab directly is more effective, as long as it's specifically with kanji (and no reading aids, like furigana)
quartz stream
I don’t get why some kanji you learn the meaning and but some have direct kanji for vocab words
Why is there a difference
Al I dumb
I don’t get it
I would prefer a deck that just gives me a kanji and the Japanese word
Not a kanji and a translated English meaning
If that makes sense
cursive dock
which deck are you using rn
quartz stream
Just give me 水 - mizu and not water or some other weird translation
None really
I’ve downloaded a few but they all suck
I’ve just been using wanikani to learn radicals atm
cursive dock
Just give me 水 - mizu and not water or some other weird translation
vocab and meaning are two different things
"water" is the meaning of the kanji 水
but the kanji 水 on its own is the word "mizu", which translates to water
there are a lot of words that use the kanji 水, like 水分 (すいぶん, moisture)
or even 水曜日 (すいようび, wednesday)
quartz stream
Huh
I get why it’s in moisture but not Wednesday
So then
Do I just learn the vocab with the kanji
And forget about the meaning first
What the fuck
It goes back to like ancient traditions
Dawg how the fuck am I supposed to remember that
So Wednesday is essentially “water day”
Bruv
cursive dock
So Wednesday is essentially “water day”
yea
at least sunday is literally sun day
日曜日
and monday is moon day
月曜日
quartz stream
Yeah fair
Well for know I’ll just learn the vocab and the kanji for the individual words
And then I’ll start worry about meanings at a later date
quartz stream
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/419481234 okay this deck seems pretty good
quartz stream
日本人と話すのは楽しいです
quartz stream
Okay I’m jus typing to study the vocab first and then true kanji, instead of simultaneously
quartz stream
I feel like I’m trying to use all my brain power to remember the kanji but then not focusing on the meaning
quartz stream
That’s me
hearty socket
cuz nega right
Holy shit he said the n word
quartz stream
don't ban me daddy erik
quartz stream
Bruh I just had another surreal experience where I was listening to a song in Japanese, one that I’ve loved for years, and I could just finally understand it
And it hit hard asf especially because it was depressing asf
quartz stream
I’m not gonna lie, simply talking to Japanese people is so OP for learning I feel
I’m essentially vocab mining from conversations
abstract mist
I’m not gonna lie, simply talking to Japanese people is so OP for learning I fee...
Where did you find
full mauve
agree
but idk if its more effective than reading / listening immersion at an early stage
if youre intermediate + its the best for sure
abstract mist
I'm not intermediate
quartz stream
but idk if its more effective than reading / listening immersion at an early sta...
Currently I find it very beneficial because I have more of scattered knowledge and it’s helping me realise what parts I have and what I’m missing
Definitely can’t rely on it, but currently I’m learning lots from it so will continue to do so
While studying vocab on the side
quartz stream
Where did you find
HelloTalk is the app I use
I’ve been chatting and I feel like I learn more every time, because I have like a basic conversation with one person, learn a few things, and then use it with the next
So they all follow a similar flow but I’m getting more advanced each time
And it’s about the sort of stuff I will be talking to Japanese people about when I visit as well
So I think it’s very useful to know
tawdry otter
I’ve been chatting and I feel like I learn more every time, because I have like ...
bro no lie i feel like u kinda underestimate yourself. look at that chat bruh u use kanji every sentence and at the same time u say u dont know much? XD
quartz stream
Well to be fair a lot of the kanji is because I use a IME and that automatically detects the kanji from the romaji version
For example
But I’m definitely learning lots of kanji just from seeing what it turns into tbh
tawdry otter
Well to be fair a lot of the kanji is because I use a IME and that automatically...
so how do you make sure it is the right one
sometime there are kanji that are written the same in hiragana
but different meaning
but i guess just taking the first suggestion is pretty safe cuz its probably the one u want
quartz stream
99% of the time the first one will be correct I think
I’ve not experienced many times where it was wrong
But ofc if it feels obviously off I will just search it up just to be sure
tawdry otter
nice
tawdry otter
99% of the time the first one will be correct I think
ye i think even keboard goes by whats most likely aka what other japanese people use the most
quartz stream
yeah exactly it auto fills quite well
例えば、「私」と「私たち」
Just learned about Japanese quotations while writing that
Didn’t realise they used 「」
I’m learning so much just by trying to speak lol
quartz stream
例えば、「私」と「私たち」
By this I mean, when typing watashi it will also give the option for watashitachi as that’s commonly used as well
tawdry otter
Yeah
cursive dock
99% of the time the first one will be correct I think
there are so many homophones in jp tho, maybe it's closer to like, 75% of the time
quartz stream
fair
dusky carbon
there are so many homophones in jp tho, maybe it's closer to like, 75% of the ti...
i read this as homophobes 
quartz stream
I will say, one limit of relying on conversation to learn is that it's limited to the scope of your level in a way, like I can't go into more depth and even if they try io it isn't as much as just reading or immersion
for learning new vocab at least
so it's good for like consolidating what you already know
but maybe not for learning lots of new words
quartz stream
it's really frustrating because I can say what I want, but just in like it's rawest form, like I can't use the write words to really express how I feel in deeper meaning
and it's really annoying when I can't put what I want into words
so I end up sounding robotic
grrrrrr
full mauve
ye i feel u
I'm studying chinese the same way rn
but I'm learning new words all the time
abstract mist
Ily flx
full mauve
cuz the girls i call with all write me stuff i dont know yet so i can add it to anki
abstract mist
cuz the girls i call with all write me stuff i dont know yet so i can add it to ...
Nooooo
He already has multiple girls in his harem
full mauve
He already has multiple girls in his harem
😭
无奈
too many cute girls want to call on wx
i have like 28 friends already
abstract mist
Can someone tell me if these wish fulfillment light novels are secretly super good
hot fern
But where can I voice train?
trans voice lessons on YT
watch a lot of their popular videos
good starting point
abstract mist
trans voice lessons on YT
I mean actual place
Where no one will hear me practicing
hot fern
the car while driving alone
abstract mist
I live in a conservative country
hot fern
go outside somewhere secluded like a forest
or a building rooftop
a park late at night
abstract mist
Oh I could just sit in a park at night and look like a crazy person
hot fern
yeah
abstract mist
Yeah
abstract mist
@full mauve wait I can just watch in jp sub
abstract mist
https://youtu.be/9cp42E6Ig4U?si=Rg43w5Xln4G8fwfT
I posted the same youtube channel a few days ago
cursive dock
cursive dock
abstract mist
hearty socket
Nice.
abstract mist
dusky carbon
wtf we have cosplayers irl?
abstract mist
両手に妹。どっちを選んでくれますか？
@full mauve we want your opinion
if you had two little sisters, which one would you choose
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> we want your opinion
if you had two little sisters, which ...
none
お姉さんしか勝たん
quartz stream
flxはわかってるわ
cursive dock
cursive dock
quartz stream
I've not watched it yet but I'm assuming this is to do with his drama with oriental pearl
I'm on his side, japan has always had rough parts, it's not a new thing
cursive dock
cursive dock
quartz stream
Nah end all kanji
abstract mist
cursive dock
quartz stream
hopefully it's not too bad when I go there next year
but I'm not surprised, everybody has been visiting recently lol
full mauve
i heard its bad in big cities
but other than that it seems chill
esp the countryside barely sees foreigners anyways
quartz stream
I plan on mainly going around the countryside anyway, tbf
The beauty of Japan imo is the little shrines in the middle of nowhere and things like that
quartz stream
I like the sort if places you went to on your trip
Should defo give recs for when I go
One thing I’m definitely doing is the shimanami kaido
I love cycling and it’s such a beautiful area of Japan and I’ll probably be able to find some remote bits so should be perfect
full mauve
One thing I’m definitely doing is the shimanami kaido
i rlly wanna go there too ngl
when i went the weather was too cold unfortunately
quartz stream
Defo think it’s the thing I want to do the most tbh
I’m going in October next year so it should be be ideal weather tbh
Japan in the autumn 👌
Perfect weather and so beautiful
full mauve
yea fr
i can only go during summer or winter oof
imma go end of summer 26 prolly
northern japan tho so the weather is also perfect then
quartz stream
my friend is going in july so I kind of want to go them, but I just know it will be so hot
dusky carbon
my friend is going in july so I kind of want to go them, but I just know it will...
jp summer is crazy dont risk it
this is coming from a southeast asian
dont even think ab it
cursive dock
quartz stream
jp summer is crazy dont risk it
Yeah I know lol, not sure I want 35c 100% humidity
I think October should be a good time to go
Or like march/April if I have the money then but I don’t think I will
dusky carbon
Or like march/April if I have the money then but I don’t think I will
april would be so gooddddd
sakura gacha
quartz stream
Yeah exactly
Ideally I’d go then, but I think it’ll probably be October as I’d rather go with more money then have to cut it close when I’m there :v
I’d only have 2k by that point for everything including booking the flight, hotels and everything else when I’m there
Which for 2 weeks is defo not enough lol
full mauve
also isnt sakura season super crowded and expensive
i think october should be pgood
ill go in september prolly
i only have like a few weeks between graduation and starting my masters so im kinda cooked
quartz stream
also isnt sakura season super crowded and expensive
Yeah off
Ofc
I’ll probably stick to October
This is my dream trip, I’d rather go with as much money as possible and have no worries
cursive dock
https://youtube.com/shorts/ssBM3jTJNUs whenever someone says get rid of kanji, just send them this channel's yt shorts
quartz stream
Get rid of kanji
cursive dock
abstract mist
Get rid of kanji
abstract mist
力カ力カ
quartz stream
https://youtube.com/shorts/ssBM3jTJNUs whenever someone says get rid of kanji, j...
LOL I just watched this now 😭
actually kinda real asf
nah, get rid of the kanji and use context clues still
easy
abstract mist
@full mauve somewhere in Japan there's a Kitagawa Marin that's waiting for you to become friends and eventually lovers with her
full mauve
quartz stream
I might to Japan in mid march and play cherry blossom roulette
quartz stream
Think I might have enough money if I’m smart
Might have to stay in a couple capsule hotels/hostels though
abstract mist
I might to Japan in mid march and play cherry blossom roulette
I'll get a credit card and go to japan
quartz stream
Do it
Guys
Am I crazy for this
I might not book hotels before going to Japan
I might just book them on the day
Because I don’t know how long I want to spend in each city
But like looking rn, I can get a same day capsule hotel for £20
So if it’s the same when I’m there then happy days
cursive dock
worth
sometimes it's better to just go without a fully laid out plan
decide things on the spot
quartz stream
I think it would be better tbh
I'm scared about the costs
but realistically, I will be able to at least find some place to stay for not too much
and most of the time I'll be out and about anyway so all I care about is having a bed lmao don't need somewhere fancy
quartz stream
yeah looking at tokyo, kyoto and osaka, if I wanted to book a capsule hotel today I could for £20
which is basically what I'll be doing when I'm there
so I'll probably just do that
dusky carbon
full mauve
Bros got a life
unfortunately
i wanna go back to my neet life
but money doesnt grow on trees
full mauve
same
quartz stream
During Covid anime was my entire life
full mauve
frrrr
quartz stream
Now I gotta work 😭
quartz stream
Best time of my life fr
full mauve
covid is the only reason i even started watching anime and studying japanese lol
china W 💀
quartz stream
yeah same tbh
I started to get into anime a little before covid, but it was only because of covid that I able to get into it as much as I did lol
cursive dock
abstract mist
https://youtube.com/shorts/-n86J7tjfNA
@dusky carbon
hearty socket
nihongo
quartz stream
https://youtube.com/shorts/-n86J7tjfNA
<@702802839965270047>
complete opposite experience to me
I can read everything else
dusky carbon
https://youtube.com/shorts/-n86J7tjfNA
<@702802839965270047>
me
except i can read hiragana
so instead of saying something something, i read it out in hiragana, yet i still only understand half
full mauve
i read chinese in japanese readings
quartz stream
Time to lock in even harder with my Japanese studies now that I know I’m going
And I’m basically done with all my studying for other things so there will be no interference
abstract mist
And I’m basically done with all my studying for other things so there will be no...
Quit your job for even less interference
quartz stream
Quit your job for even less interference
Speaking facts
quartz stream
I just always use watashi tbh
Or actually just whatever comes to my head first at the time lel
abstract mist
for men boku is pretty safe
I use boku and ore
Sometimes sessha if I want to sound extra comedic
quartz stream
I think I do mainly use boku now that I think about it
Just a bit easier to say than watashi
abstract mist
Watashi is like if you don't know the person
But when I talked to jp people it was a casual setting
quartz stream
白い液体が大好きです
hearty socket
白い液体が大好きです
ゲイ
quartz stream
No u
abstract mist
quartz stream
So real
abstract mist
Hokuou Bishoujo no Kurasumeito ga, Fianse ni Nattara Deredere no Amaama ni Natte Shimatta Kudan ni Tsuite
See, that's the kind of shit I need in my life
quartz stream
That hurt my brain to read
I understand when my beautiful classmate became my fiancé and turned all lovey dovey with me
Or something like that
Why am I learning useless words 😭
abstract mist
Why am I learning useless words 😭
You learned new words here?
quartz stream
Yes
quartz stream
Apparently hokuou means like Northern European
abstract mist
Oh
quartz stream
Yeah
abstract mist
So you
abstract mist
Apparently hokuou means like Northern European
Here's the girl btw
https://mudae.net/uploads/6221220/ikDopMf~200be7d59e9d.png
Do you like
Flx hates
quartz stream
Ok
abstract mist
quartz stream
Yeah she looks weird too
abstract mist
> Hokuou Bishoujo no Kurasumeito ga, Fianse ni Nattara Deredere no Amaama ni Nat...
Ok honestly
If a girl started being deredere no amaama to me (a stranger) after an engagement, I would be very suspicious
cursive dock
abstract mist
https://x.com/echetus/status/1997978509847785510?s=20
@dusky carbon I didn't know you were a minister
X
(she's into anime men}
dusky carbon
https://x.com/echetus/status/1997978509847785510?s=20
<@702802839965270047> I di...
cant relate to this unfortunately 💔🥀
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So real
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jy8J7LrD1uA
why did they used SS as a shorthand
why
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abstract mist
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Where is everywhere, I’m asking for research purposes
plush merlinBOT
Take your hand off yer dick for 2 seconds to use your mouse and keyboard and look up 'bunnygirls' into the search bar and then continue cranking the horn you amoeba
gleaming kernel
Take your hand off yer dick for 2 seconds to use your mouse and keyboard and loo...
Id rather demon girl but you do you
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Take your hand off yer dick for 2 seconds to use your mouse and keyboard and loo...
No
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American accents in Japanese genuinely pmo
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Holy fuck Duolingo is actually good now
They finally explain things
This is game changing
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yeah idk why
but I'm glad they added this feature
this was my biggest complaint of duolingo
just endless word matching but no explainations as to why
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what even is this
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what even is this
this all i know
語り (katari) is indeed talk
and i assume こいよ！ (koi yo!) is from the verb 来る (kuru, to come)
自分語りこいよ！
come talk about yourself!
something like that
and apparently 長文 (choubun) means "long text", i had to look it up
full mauve
yea its basically like "come and drop the full story"
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https://tenor.com/view/brain-empty-brain-out-brain-meme-brain-no-brain-meme-gif-...
this implies youre stacked
where does the brain go
dusky carbon
this implies youre stacked
no cus since the brain replaces the shit i shit the brain out and the shit stays in my head
hearty socket
lmao
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me when my brain registered 長文 as long word <:kmm_english:926133352396914709>
Is that a Chinese speaker moment or sum shit
dusky carbon
Is that a Chinese speaker moment or sum shit
yeah so
i read the chinese pronunciation of 長 and the japanese pronunciation of 文
and then i pieced in my head and i was like
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Oh 😭😭
dusky carbon
mmm yes, long word
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I see so Chinese is the exact same characters (or at least some overlap) then
Interesting
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and then i realised that i didnt even translate it accurately in my head cus 文 isnt word and text is actually more accurate
and then i sent the gif of the brain in my rectum
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I mean obviously I know they were the same characters, but I thought it was just the same style but each language has their own unique ones, but I guess there’s some overlap too
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and then i realised that i didnt even translate it accurately in my head cus 文 i...
Fair bahahah
dusky carbon
I see so Chinese is the exact same characters (or at least some overlap) then
the difference is down to the strokes and meanings but almost all of the general characters itself overlap between both languages
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the difference is down to the strokes and meanings but almost all of the general...
Yeah that’s what I figured fair
dusky carbon
the thing is
jp uses the traditional writing
and china has long switched over to a simplified version so people wouldnt have to write so much
dusky carbon
only taiwan preserves what they used to be
thank god i learned simplified cus hell nah bruh thats a lot of bullshit to write out
not that i was ever good at chinese to begin with
dont make my life harder
🙏
dusky carbon
yup
abstract mist
yea its basically like "come and drop the full story"
Oh wait so monogatari comes from 語り
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chat I've planned my japan trip
thoughts?
Japan Trip Itinerary
Day 1: Arrive > Asakusa
Arrival at 12:00 – get through immigration (remember to apply for visa and get QR code online)
Setup IC Card on apple pay, get train into city – staying in Asakusa (Keisei Skyliner → Ueno → Ginza Line to Asakusa)
Check into hotel, immediately go and find a spot to grab a late lunch (don’t fall asleep in hotel)
Visit Senso-ji Temple, Sumida River, Sky Tree?
Day 2: Asakusa > Akihabara > Shibuya
Check out of hotel
Find breakfast spot
Go to Akihabara (check out Anime Shops, Arcades (GIGO), Maid Café, Tech shops)
Travel to Shibuya
Check into hotel in Shibuya
Grab late lunch depending on time
Shibuya Crossing (Grab coffee at Starbucks overlooking)
Shibuya Sky
Meiji Jingu
Harajuku backstreets (Shopping, try find dinner)
Lost Bar
Metal Justice Tokyo
Day 3: Day trip to Kamakura
Find breakfast
Train to Kamakura
Kamakura Daibutsu
Hokokuji Temple
Komachi Dori
Train back to Shibuya – get dinner – return to same hotel
Day 4:
Check out of hotel
Train to Shinjuku
Check into hotel
Breakfast
Shinjuku Gyoen
Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building
Lunch
Free afternoon to wonder
Omoide Yokocho – Dinner, then drinks
Golden Gai
Back to hotel
Day 5: Tokyo > Kyoto
Check out hotel
Get breakfast
Shinkansen to Kyoto
Gion
Ponto-cho
Day 6: East Kyoto
Fushimi Inari
Tempura Endo Yasaka lunch
Kiyomizu-dera
Wasaka Pagoda
Higashiyama streets
Day 7: West Kyoto
Arashiyama bamboo grove
Tenryuji temple
Kinkakuji
Day: 8 Kyoto > Nara > Osaka
Check out
Train to Nara
Nara Park
Todai-ji
Kasuga Taisha
Lunch
Train to Osaka
Check into hotel
Dotonbori
Kuromon Market Snacks
Street food (Takoyaki, Okonomiyaki, Kushikatsu)
Day 9: Osaka > Hiroshima
Check out
Train to Hiroshima
Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park
Atomic Bomb Dome
Dinner (Okonomiyaki)
Day 10: Miyajima Day Trip
Ferry to Miyajima
Itsukushima Shrine
Ropeway
Ferry to Hiroshima
Day 11: Hiroshima > Onomichi (Start of Shimanami Kaido)
Train to Onomichi
Check into hotel
Explore hillside temples
Get food
Prepare for cycle
Day 12: Shimanami Kaido Day
Check out of hotel
Bike rent in Onomichi
Ride to Imabari (70km)
Check out cafes, views etc on the way
Train/ferry to Matsuyama
Check into hotel
Day 13: Matsuyama > Tokyo
Check out of hotel
Dogo Onsen
Matsuyama Castle
Fly back to Tokyo Haneda
Check into hotel
Day 14:
Check out of hotel
8:40 departure from Haneda (get there by 6am)
Home time :(
abstract mist
thoughts?
Japan Trip Itinerary
Day 1: Arrive > Asakusa
Arrival at 12:00 – get th...
Never been to Japan sorry
dusky carbon
thoughts?
Japan Trip Itinerary
Day 1: Arrive > Asakusa
Arrival at 12:00 – get th...
@full mauve
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:3
full mauve
sounds good
id probably include 1 full day in matsuyama but thats just my shikoku love ig
abstract mist
I would include 1 day with gf
full mauve
onomichi is very zased and esp the cycle part sounds rlly good , i always wanted to do that route as well but when i visited it was too cold
be sure to send a lot of pics
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id probably include 1 full day in matsuyama but thats just my shikoku love ig
I got a full day is masuyama as my last full day basically
Flight leaves at 19:45
So I can get explore most of it
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onomichi is very zased and esp the cycle part sounds rlly good , i always wanted...
Yeahhhhh it’s the main thing I’ve always wanted to do ehehehe ever since I saw trash taste do it
I’m going in March so the weather should be like a perfect 20c hopefullyyyyy
Busy season but hopefully most tourists don’t go there anyway
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be sure to send a lot of pics
I’m gonna:3
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I would include 1 day with gf
I can’t because she’s not allowed to go unfortunately:/
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Busy season but hopefully most tourists don’t go there anyway
yea shikoku is a lot less busy than tokyo or kyoto
👍
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yupppp even better
and it's easily like the prettiest region of japan tbh
ideallll:3
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hell yeahh so pretty god damn 😭
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i def wanna go back there one day
ill visit northern japan this year tho prolly
sapporo kaisendon
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hell yeah
northen japan interests me too cuz of abroad in japan
I'm definitely going back next year for sure
imma make it a yearly tradition for sure
there's just too much to do 😭 I could easily spend the whole 2 weeks in tokyo alone
that was honestly the hardest portion to plan, because there was just so many options
at least with the other things there's like only a few things that everybody goes to see and that's it so I didn't really have to think about it
and shimanami kaido is just a set route anyway so not much to think about there, just go to start and figure out how to get back from finish, luckily matsuyama has an airport and domestic flying in japan is goated asf
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imma make it a yearly tradition for sure
W
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and shimanami kaido is just a set route anyway so not much to think about there,...
yea use JAL explorer pass or the ANA equivalent for it
you even get free wifi all flight in eco its crazy
i flew from takamatsu to haneda and haneda to kagoshima this year, honestly so much better than any flight in europe 😭
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yea use JAL explorer pass or the ANA equivalent for it
I believe I’m flying ANA
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nicee i wanna try them on my next trip to japan
i only flew jal last time to farm some oneworld miles but honestly miles max isnt worth it for me since i fly maybe 2 , 3 times a year
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i only flew jal last time to farm some oneworld miles but honestly miles max isn...
I think jal is supposed to be nicer tbh
but I've heard good things about both
like you said, way better than europe (looking at you ryanair) bahahah
gonna have to make more use of the planes on my next trip for sure
gleaming kernel
If im not mistaken, I heard that Japan offers free national flights for tourists so they can get people out of Tokyo and Kyoto to other places.
Or am I stupid
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@full mauve bruh, in tokyo for £40/night I can only get a capsule hotel, in kyoto, osaka nice hotels, and in hiroshima im literally getting a whole ass apartment 😭
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<@142570933322776577> bruh, in tokyo for £40/night I can only get a capsule hote...
yea hiroshima i had a rlly nice 50€/night 4 star hotel with rooftop onsen and a view over the whole city lmao
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literally tokyo is so expensive but every other city is cheap asf lmao
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i stayed in yokohama last time i was in tokyo so i also spent like 80€ a night on a nice hotel there
and that was like a steal
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I'm almost suspicous it's fake 😭
but the reviews seem legit
but there's only like 20
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if the reviews dont seem botted its legit
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i doubit that happens often in japan tbh
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its this one
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they value trust a lot
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waytoodank link
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i had to cancel 3 hotels in vietnam due to botted reviews
luckily i double checked
ya looks legit
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wild bro
just gotta get through the first 4 days of capsules in tokyo and then I'm living in luxury
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yeah lmao
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the yen is also dropping so hard rn
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I don't mind the idea of capsules, I usually stay in hostels when I travel in europe so I'm pretty used to it
seems like it will be a bit nicer even lmao
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the yen is also dropping so hard rn
yeah true
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all my hotels have been booked, average of £32/night not bad
and like I said, only tokyo I'm staying in capsules
rest of the trip either apartment or hotel
gleaming kernel
<@142570933322776577> bruh, in tokyo for £40/night I can only get a capsule hote...
Thats like 70aud thats so fucking cheap, most average places here in australia range from 100-850 a night
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i think i spent like 50euros/night on avg in February
and i stayed at rlly good 4 star hotels lmao
with like onsens n shit
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So sad, one of my flights (from Shanghai to Tokyo) has been cancelled so I just had to spend £100 to book another flight for that 😭
I’m already on a tight budget bro 😭
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i think i spent like 50euros/night on avg in February
W damn
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they didnt rebook u? wtf
my flight to japan was also cancelled in 23 but i got rebooked to finnair from airfrance
was actually a blessing cuz helsinki is like europes best airport imo
gleaming kernel
So sad, one of my flights (from Shanghai to Tokyo) has been cancelled so I just ...
I wish flights in australia were as cheap as Europe.
Fucken over half your budget for anything holiday is flights
full mauve
Australia has cheaper flights to japan than we do tho
gleaming kernel
How much are your flights
WHEN THE FUCK THEY GET SO CHEAP
Flying to another state costs more then japan, this makes fuck all sense
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How much are your flights
usually like 700-1000 euros
i checked sydney and you can fly via china southern for like 400 euros return
crazy
and china southern a350 is so good
russia cucked europe asia flights
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they didnt rebook u? wtf
I mean they are such a cheap airline I’m not surprised 😭😭
I think I could get a refund if I went through china eastern themselves which I did try but their website was too buggy:/
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😭 average chinese airline
their websites are even worse than japanese ones i feel like
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Somehow yeah 😭 most advanced society btw
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if u get a railpass and want to do online reservations u can only book them between 8 am and 10pm JST
💀
the website doesnt work outside of their service hours
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thats the thing they arent 😭 but i guess they wanna make sure theres always support available? idk
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Bruhhhh 😭😭
Is it easy to get Shinkansen tickets
In Tokyo imma just use suica but I guess for Shinkansen I’ll need a ticket right
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Is it easy to get Shinkansen tickets
yea esp if u have an iphone ig
u can either just use the machines at the train station or this https://smart-ex.jp/en/lp/app/
smart ex only works for the kyoto to tokyo one tho
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Do I need to reserve them or can I just do on the day
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you dont need to reserve but for the fastest one its recommended since non reservation seats are limited
on the slower shinkansen ull have no problems finding a seat tho 100%
nozomi is the fastest iirc
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Hmm
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u can also just reserve same day at the machine and therell 99% be a free seat if thats what u meant
i think i misunderstood oop
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i just always went to the station and got a reserved seat same day to make sure i dont have to stand the whole journey
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Yeah I’ll do that
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yea
at the machine i think u can choose to either link the ticket to ur ic card or get two paper tickets
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Ohhhh okay I’ll link it if it’s easy enough
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its not that complicated but i messed it up the first time i tried riding shinkansen and i was panicking so hard lmao
i thought id miss my train but the staff helped me luckily
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Damn bro 😭😭
I hope my Japanese is good enough for this
It feels pretty good nowadays but idk
I just can’t read kanji 😭
Procrastinate that shit
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my jp in 2023 was also shit lol
i still survived
i just googled and it says modern machines will just print u the basic fare + shinkansen ticket onto one paper ticket
that makes it a lot more convenient ig
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ah hell yeah wicked
that should save my ass
so I'll just pay the basic fare on the machijne alongside it
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i still survived
yeah, work case I'll just use chatgpt lmao
that's unironically really good at translating 😭
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so I'll just pay the basic fare on the machijne alongside it
yea so no worries
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I use it to study lowkey ahahaha
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hell yeah
abstract mist
Should I go to Japan
full mauve
yes
gleaming kernel
Should I go to Japan
Do you want happiness, do you want peace, tou want good fortune then yes
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Should I go to Japan
obv
although how long is it gonna take you to afford that on kazakstahn wages 😭
abstract mist
although how long is it gonna take you to afford that on kazakstahn wages 😭
I'm gonna move to the Netherlands one day to earn it quicker
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I'm gonna move to the Netherlands one day to earn it quicker
I was gonna say, otherwise it will take like 3 years of saving up 😭
maybe 2 at best
assuming you can save your entire salary
the world is so unfair man
abstract mist
I can still get a vacation here in Kazakhstan
Bet there's tourist places here too
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that fact it would take someone that long to save up for the same thing when it takes me like 4 months is ridiculous
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I can still get a vacation here in Kazakhstan
Bet there's tourist places here t...
true lol
big mountains right
so beautiful nature at least
abstract mist
I went to the mountains in summer btw. Was like $50 overall ($20 gas to a friend + $30 on food)
abstract mist
Come to Kazakhstan
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probably will one day
I plan on going to every european country
is kazakshtan europe
or central asia
central asia actually right
but still on the continent so ill go
abstract mist
Kazakhstan is partially in europe
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going to japan rn is pretty cheap fortunately
cuz enyasu
if u can save like 300 USD a month it should only take like 5 months to finance a decent japan trip no
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if u can save like 300 USD a month it should only take like 5 months to finance ...
That’s literally what I did lol
£200 so slightly less maybe but close enough
But yeah abt 5 months maybe total
I already had some savings from before as I sold my phone though so that gave me a slight boost
full mauve
i save about 200€ a month for vacations too
most of my savings go into etfs tho nowadays 😭
my next japan trip will be a tad bit more expensive tho cuz i wanna go to hokkaido
the flights to hokkaido will cost at least 1k for sure
😭
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really?
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the flights to hokkaido will cost at least 1k for sure
my flight to tokyo is £411, and then surely the flight from tokyo to hokkaido is only like, £100?
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yea maybe i can get a cheaper one if i stay like a day in tokyo
but i dont wanna waste a day in tokyo aaa
i mean ill be transitting in tokyo anyways probably to fly to hokkaido when i fly from germany but then im not doing a self transfer at least so im save if my previous flight is cancelled or delayed
abstract mist
NGL If I had 200€ a month I'd probably invest it into something instead
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NGL If I had 200€ a month I'd probably invest it into something instead
I'd rather have fun now when I'm young rather than when I'm old
And I'm doing both
I put £50 a month into S&P 500, which averages 10% interest per year
abstract mist
I'll probably have to choose and like
abstract mist
I put £50 a month into S&P 500, which averages 10% interest per year
So you're investing into american companies
What if america gets a crisis
jk haha we're doomed either way
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So you're investing into american companies
What if america gets a crisis
I mean
if the top companies crash, then the economy crashes with it
that's why you need real assets instead
but unfortunately I don't have enough for that yet
the only thing I've got like that unironically is my PC at this rate lol
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yea maybe i can get a cheaper one if i stay like a day in tokyo
I guess since you've been so many times, there's probably not much new things you can do in just a day in tokyo
I think it's worth doing rather than spending more money though
abstract mist
the only thing I've got like that unironically is my PC at this rate lol
wtf same but I don't even own the pc
It's actually my parents' but I will probably just take it from them since they don't need it
full mauve
for me its prolly not worth since i dont have that many vacation days left this year oof
abstract mist
I will 1080p gayme on it and it will be the best experience I have
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even if the economy crashes, you are secure
full mauve
i just buy All world etfs
abstract mist
that's why you want assets instead
PC is a terrible asset unless you buy right before a shortage
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yeah
full mauve
even if the economy crashes itll eventually recover
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but I'm just giving an example my guy
full mauve
i just invest money i know i dont need atm
full mauve
if i had more money id diversify by buying like real state etc
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for me its prolly not worth since i dont have that many vacation days left this ...
ahhhhh that's totally fair, I'm having the same problem lol
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i just buy All world etfs
I've not heard of that
tbh I haven't looked too much into options, I just invest in S&P 500 as it's easy and I don't have lots of money to spread my investments atm
so I'd rather put what I have into one I know will give returns
abstract mist
Wtf all world etf sounds cool
abstract mist
tbh I haven't looked too much into options, I just invest in S&P 500 as it's eas...
ngl al world etf does sound cool
why did I type the same message twice
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idk
abstract mist
I meant to say that s&p 500 is totally valid
full mauve
sp 500 is ok but riskier than this
all world yields a bit less but is more diversified
most of the ETF is still SP500 companies tho
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sp 500 is ok but riskier than this
ahhh I seee
I'll stick with S&P 500
seems like that's basically the same
and im happy even if its slightly riskier cuz I'm pretty confident in the S&P 500 anyway, unless we have an economic crash
which realistically would mean its joever either way
anyway this is the japanese study chat
why are we talking investing 😭
Chat
I might be meeting up with a Japanese girl I met on HelloTalk 😭😭
The timing kinda sucks cuz I got a gf now but I’m just gonna see how it goes
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shes gonna give me a tour of kamakura
since I was going there anyway
should be cool
I'm scared to speak in japanese though, my speaking is so much worse 😭
typing is okay
speaking, all my knowledge leaves me 😭
cant cheat on the gf though, so im just thinking of this as a friendy language exchange tour lol
gonna have to lock in even more than I already am
I've been studying lots recently tbh
I can basically watch most anime now without subtitles without a problem, which is nice
unless there's some ridiculous unique word, but usually I get enough to understand anyway lol
abstract mist
The timing kinda sucks cuz I got a gf now but I’m just gonna see how it goes
Vronis cheating on his long distance gf
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Vronis cheating on his long distance gf
I'm not gonna 😭
just meeting up with a friend 😭
I'm not that kind of guy
abstract mist
You said you're gonna see how it goes 😂
abstract mist
there's a very high chance it wont happen anyway tbh
afaik Japanese people don't get with foreigners all that often
And some get with foreigners for the experience of dating a foreigner. Like a thrill ride
It sounds racist because it is
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afaik Japanese people don't get with foreigners all that often
Honestly I’m not expecting much
That’s why I said I’ll see how it goes
full mauve
its a nice thing to do so why not
i also met a few girls during my last visit and we had a great time
one girl even drove me around for free it was way too sweet
wasnt anything romantic tho just friendly conversations
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wasnt anything romantic tho just friendly conversations
Exactly!!
Flx is my man
Backing me up
Hello talk is so good fr chat
I have like 10 jp girls actively messaging me, so if you did want a jp gf this shit defo the way 😭
But I’m just purely tryna practice atm
Locked in
My Japanese is improving so fast
Cuz I basically know grammar well enough, it’s just learning lots of new words
full mauve
i only use hellotalk for chinese nowadays😭
i should maybe try to talk to japanese ppl again sometime
im already rlly rusty
my chinese is getting decent tho finally
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nice!
I would never study chinese
chinese is essentially all the things I hate in japanese and that's it
aka kanji galore
and fucking tones fuck that
I find hellotalk really good though tbh, and there's so many people on it, you never run out of people to talk to
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Bruh I’m living my old dream, waking up to tons of messages from Japanese girls 😭 why does life always give you things when only once you’ve moved on 😂 like of course I get this now I’ve got a gf
