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#日本語
full mauve
abstract mist
I hate jlpt sensei
abstract mist
Idk I just wanted to tease you
full mauve
😠
anyways after ure done with the core deck or its too boring for u its time for mining and creating ur own deck
abstract mist
What if I just mine
full mauve
u can either go through the work of creating cards by hand each time u find a word during ur immersion time or u just use yomitan anki integration
abstract mist
Like what if I read ascendance of the bookworm. The mc's name is Myne, so maybe I can mine everything
full mauve
if u want to study names too then yes
u can mine that
i recommend not studying names tho
quartz stream
ok thank you, I shall go through this geezers sets for now
abstract mist
LOL who cares about names. They have furigana anyway, and even Japanese people often don't know how they're written
Except for yamada and yoshida
full mauve
with yomitan u just click there and it will create a decent flashcard with example sentence (from the text u read) + audio for u
full mauve
LOL who cares about names. They have furigana anyway, and even Japanese people o...
there are name nerds that learn like every city name in japan
or rail station name
abstract mist
there are name nerds that learn like every city name in japan
They're called programmers who had to implement all Japanese characters into unicode
🙏 let's thank them for their work
quartz stream
so I just rate it based on how difficult/easy it was for me?
abstract mist
Can't the program judge based on time
full mauve
so I just rate it based on how difficult/easy it was for me?
yes but only use again and good if possible
the penguin guy explained it in his vid if ure curious
abstract mist
Flx let's marry in Japan so we can both be citizens
cursive dock
so I just rate it based on how difficult/easy it was for me?
yea like flx said, just use "again" and "good", the other options deviate the timings by too much from what i've seen
full mauve
damn i never finished the vid so i had no idea about the new algorithm in the settings
LMAOOO
cursive dock
o i gotta get grammar decks 
full mauve
im so stupid
cursive dock
well, i'll take a look at tae kim's grammar guide again and then decide if i want decks
full mauve
for beginner grammar anki is prolly not that helpful cuz a lot of stuff is 100% new to you and not 1 to 1 translatable from en
for advanced grammar the thing is most of it is just grammar u already know but fancy
like きらいがある = 悪い傾向がある
u can explain it perfectly with stuff u already know so it fits very well into one anki card
full mauve
女体盛り is crazy
cursive dock
why is my memory so bad
i have no trouble learning and memorizing most words
but a lot of them i also get mindblocked on for some reason
"i always forget this word, i'll try extra hard to remember", then it comes up again and i forgor already (again)
full mauve
not bad advice except for his choice of what to study first imo
id never study Japanese to pass some stupid jlpt test
studying through frequency decks is a lot more efficient especially if ur final goal is to take n1 anyways
ull have way more fun with Japanese earlier since youll be able to read more immersion material thats actually made for natives not some stupid kids book
JLPT is so easy that u literally dont need any dedicated kanji study for it if you immerse by reading a bit LOL
only grammar might be a problem
abstract mist
id never study Japanese to pass some stupid jlpt test
WTF
But I would????
full mauve
I wanna learn japanese so I can get a japanese gf
same
(srsly when will i get a japanese gf)
furthest ive gotten is ぷりくら session
:(
full mauve
WTF
But I would????
!!!!!!!!!!! how dare u
nah but like if u wanna work in jp or smth i can see why youd go for JLPT intense study
otherwise its just useless imo
most ppl studying jp do so only for leisure and pop culture anyways so it shouldnt be the go to answer
cursive dock
most ppl studying jp do so only for leisure and pop culture anyways so it should...
true but at the same time JLPT can be like a kind of milestone to aim for
a lot of people would find it hard to keep studying without an "end goal"
full mauve
shouldnt end goal just be fluency
or being able to talk to Japanese ppl
cuz N1 isnt really an end goal
its just a step on the way to fluency lol
cursive dock
or being able to talk to Japanese ppl
of course but that's hard to measure
full mauve
at N1 a lot of ppl still cant properly talk 🤣
cursive dock
yea hence the quotations
it's very motivating when you see numbers go up that represent your improvement, you can't see numbers for "how well can i hold a conversation"
full mauve
of course but that's hard to measure
true if u want numbers thats difficult
but you can also get numbers by like tracking ur reading speed for example
and u can kinda test ur JLPT lvl on the side to also see ur progress
ull improve at JLPT even if u dont focus study for it
cursive dock
yea but my point is, it's easy to settle for "let's aim for N1" as your goal cuz progress for JLPT is so well documented by multiple sources and teachers xd
full mauve
like i think its good to use it as a benchmark tbh
cursive dock
ull improve at JLPT even if u dont focus study for it
yea but it depends on the person
many people can't study without clear numerical feedback
full mauve
yea but it depends on the person
true im just talking from my pov of course
full mauve
for me I never had to study for jlpt except n1 grammar now
abstract mist
true but at the same time JLPT can be like a kind of milestone to aim for
When you try to get your statistic to approach a certain value, the statistic becomes useless.
For example, I'm sure you know that I play Tetris and in Tetris there is a statistic called KPP which is short for key presses per piece and I optimized my runs for the past four years to get that statistic to be as low as possible because it's supposed to measure how much effort you're putting in. At some point however the super low KPP requires so much thinking to be done, that I lost about 20% speed compared to my fastest runs
Where are the punctuations
I'll never use voice input again
cursive dock
When you try to get your statistic to approach a certain value, the statistic be...
i'm not arguing whether studying for JLPT is better or not
my point is it's a very natural choice
and we shouldn't fault people for choosing it as a target
full mauve
from my experience ppl who study solely for JLPT improve slower than ppl who just go and take everything they can get since they usually only have JLPT as a motivation after all
or it is because they are too reliant on text books im not sure
im chilling on a lot of language learning servers and ive never seen ppl improve faster than the moeway method in any language
full mauve
obv u can study fully through a textbook as well, its just a bit slower
if u dont care about time and just want to have fun or a clear goal go for it
full mauve
in the end ull be fluent as well who cares
dusky carbon
scoring at exams and becoming fluent in a language are 2 different things
im good at the former, not the latter
dusky carbon
abstract mist
when in doubt, osu reference
Omg it xapia
Wanna text in Japanese
full mauve
osu references are so real tho
abstract mist
@full mauve 最近のアァりゃ見た？
full mauve
language schools are a scam
i think so too but i heard especially older ppl love them cuz they need that feeling of studying in a group
abstract mist
<@142570933322776577> 最近のアァりゃ見た？
良かったね、S2をできて
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> 最近のアァりゃ見た？
いや、アニメ自体も何も見てない
cursive dock
i think so too but i heard especially older ppl love them cuz they need that fee...
from what i've seen, people who take language courses study for 3 years just to not be able to speak the language barely at all
full mauve
yea same
abstract mist
いや、アニメ自体も何も見てない
フレックスのこと何か知らない
full mauve
but thats cuz theyre usually older and just dont have enough time to study a lot of Japanese
cursive dock
when in doubt, osu reference
once you reach mid-5 digit rank in osu you've gone thru so many stages of learning and improvement
full mauve
the classes might be their only Japanese in the whole week
cursive dock
abstract mist
from what i've seen, people who take language courses study for 3 years just to ...
Is this xapia
full mauve
once you reach mid-5 digit rank in osu you've gone thru so many stages of learni...
and then u decay and become n5
😭
like I talked to a woman in her 30s yday with a 2year old kid and she said she can maybe at most study for 30min a day
and even that is rlly exhausting according to her since she has work, kids etc
at least I convinced her to buy Japanese audiobooks and manga for her kid so that he can immerse early on in his life already
🙏
abstract mist
Sorry flx for watching eng sub, if I don't have it I'll hear a 5 clause sentence and repeat it 3 times before giving up and turning on the subs
full mauve
ill be a good father
abstract mist
Pls become my papa
full mauve
Sorry flx for watching eng sub, if I don't have it I'll hear a 5 clause sentence...
if u were my kid id disown u
jk
its ok i also do the same with kdrama
i do 10 minutes of en sub and then 10 minutes full immersion
cursive dock
bless VNs for having a "repeat audio" feature
full mauve
fr
VNs are made for perfect immersion 🙏
just a bit difficult to get into them
unfortunately
cursive dock
requires some set up for sure
full mauve
not only that but also like u need a ton of time to actually enjoy a vn
even if ur reading speed is native most good vns take 40hrs+
most ppl just dont got that time for one "book" game
well if ure the kinda person that can enjoy stuff over a long period of time it might not be a problem but personally I lose the immersion in the story if I play a VN over several months
full mauve
dam i can't download lunahook cuz brave keeps flagging it as malware
had the same issue its rlly annoying
idk if there is smth the devs can do about that tho
abstract mist
dam i can't download lunahook cuz brave keeps flagging it as malware
Ayyy brave user 🤝
abstract mist
dam i can't download lunahook cuz brave keeps flagging it as malware
It looks into the memory of a different process, what is it if not malware
abstract mist
Probably is signed too
cursive dock
yea that's probably it
abstract mist
Corporations are afraid of unsigned binaries
cursive dock
also tae kim's guide is gone from the google play store
https://youtu.be/EPYNSV81fIU life saver 
cursive dock
abstract mist
@full mauve is it a good idea to avoid 外来語 as much as I can
abstract mist
why
isn't it kinda cool and not がいじん
actually it also kinda has おじいさん vibes so maybe I won't
full mauve
actually it also kinda has おじいさん vibes so maybe I won't
this
ure cool if u use gairaigo
its literally slang often times lol
quartz stream
how do I know when I am supposed to use things like "ni", "wa", "desu"
for some reason I sometimes decide to use them and it's correct like out of some weird gut feeling but I can't tell why...
so like desu is for a statement?? as desu ka is for questions?
"to" is like and
abstract mist
Japanese isn't related to English at all, so a lot of the concepts can't be translated 1:1, and often have minimal overlap in meaning with its counterpart
quartz stream
yeah I get that, I'm not looking for a direct translation
but it's like those ones I mentioned, desu ka, desu and to... not necesarily 1:1 translations but I can describe which situations you would use them and why
but things like ni and wa I don't really understand
abstract mist
Watch this guy. He's insanely good at explaining what they all do
https://youtube.com/@kanamenaito?si=RlhettUQfd-NiOW7
quartz stream
alrighty ty
abstract mist
but things like ni and wa I don't really understand
Wa is the "topic" particle. You're stating the topic of the conversation. If you want to talk about yourself, you'll say "わたしは"
If you want to say "I'm good at singing", you'll say "わたし は うた が うまい です"
If you want to say I have a lot of friends, you'll say "わたし は ともだし が いっぱい うる"
It's kind of like "oh, me? (I) have a lot of friends"
Ni is a complex particle
Can be used in a lot of cases
Btw, the wa particle is written as は
abstract mist
Yes it's ha, but you read it as wa when you know it's a topic particle
abstract mist
Idk why, maybe it's easier to read
abstract mist
but I understand wa now, so when you're talking about yourself
No, the topic can be anything
abstract mist
If you read a textbook, they'll say that wa is just "is". But it isn't
quartz stream
right okay yeah I understand it now
I just opened duolingo and the first sentence I got was "toronto wa dou desu ka" so "toronto" is the topic
so wa comes after
I understand
wakatta
abstract mist
There's a lot of use cases for ni.
Simplest one being "X in Y". Like ペン は あの はこ に います
"pen wa that box in exists"
there's also de for places instead
Sometimes you can use either. Both がっこ に and がっこ で mean "at school". But the meanings are slightly different. Ni is actually used when you're inside the school because of some reason, and de is used when you just happened to be there.
Ni can also be used as "and" for people
It also shows a direction. "I'm going to school" = かっこ に いきます
I could go on about every particle in the world but I think you should listen to more Japanese and you'll get it
quartz stream
There's a lot of use cases for ni.
Simplest one being "X in Y". Like ペン は あの はこ ...
Makes sense, I’ve seen it a lot in somebody lives in’s a city such as “Liam wa toukyou ni sundeimasu”
abstract mist
Vibes are not a bad thing. I speak English purely by vibes, and I'm very good at it
quartz stream
Yeah
I mean that’s how like natives speak in a way, sometimes they can’t explain why something is how it is
I am like that with some English things as well
damn boy I just got a perfect lesson with the things I just learned
learning japanese is so fun
abstract mist
I mean that’s how like natives speak in a way, sometimes they can’t explain why ...
By the way, you can combine particles. You'll hear には or では when the topic is a place. If you say "わたし には...", then the topic is your inside. For example, やたし には かんがえ が ある means "inside of me there's an idea", or "I have an idea"
Also don't use the topic particle unless you want to change the topic
quartz stream
hmm okay
getting a bit complicated for me now there but I'm sure I'll understand what you mean once I get to it
cursive dock
how do I know when I am supposed to use things like "ni", "wa", "desu"
tldr: they're called "particles" and they basically "tag" each part of the sentence with their "function"
timmy eats an apple
SUBJECT: timmy
VERB: to eat
OBJECT: apple
timmy would be marked with the topic particle は and apple with the object particle を
_ _
timmyはappleをeats
timmy wa ringo o taberu
the basics are pretty simple it's just that @abstract mist is getting into details and that can be overwhelming
which is understandable
quartz stream
yeah fair
I'm understanding it more
makes a lot of sense
one step at a time
I'm not a fan of when the word is different from it's hiragana like ha being wa or wo being o (I'm guessing from your example)
seems a bit confusing for no reason
cursive dock
seems a bit confusing for no reason
dw it's only on these two particles specifically
quartz stream
ah okay good
cursive dock
yeah yeah
also most things are written in kanji, so in practice these particles really stick out in a sentence
making them super easy to spot and thus read
cursive dock
I will learn kanji one day
duolingo eases you into it iirc and never makes you learn kanji on its own which is nice imo
it teaches you vocab and you learn kanji that way
quartz stream
yeah it's nice
it will give you a word, show you the kanji, have you write it (but it will give you arrows) and then slowly removes a stroke and the arrows
until you can write it on your own
I know about 5 right now
idk my focus is more on just being able to speak right now
so I'm just doing romaji
and hiragana
and will pick up kanji along the way but probably not go into it extensively
cursive dock
and will pick up kanji along the way but probably not go into it extensively
reading will help you improve a lot faster so i recommend that you do look into it, even if your goal is only speaking
i'd also recommend turning off romaji at some point and going all in on reading kana
but it's up to you ofc, i just genuinely think reading helps so much
quartz stream
I figured I could read with mainly hiragana but idk
abstract mist
I learned kana by seeing jp text and looking up the kana that I didn't know
abstract mist
I'm going to read childrens books probably
watch anime with jp sub
quartz stream
yeah I do
abstract mist
i dont
quartz stream
although not with like just kanji
with romaji
maybe I should do kanji though
or both
ideally
full mauve
kanji is srsly really helpful
studying by reading is rlly the easiest thing u can do as well I agree
quartz stream
okay I'll study it
man I feel like I know a decent amount but then I just try to self insert into a japanese conversation (like listen to a question and try to answer it in japanese to myself) and I just struggle
my understanding is pretty good though
full mauve
Yea thats normal , output is always the end game
First you need hours upon hours of input
After some time (years usually) ull naturally think of the right Japanese answers
full mauve
and what should I yap abougt
eroge
cursive dock
abstract mist
cursive dock
how reliable is chatgpt for jp learning sometimes i want example sentences with multiple specific words and that's not possible with a google search
今日は郵便局で葉書を出すために、切手を買いました。
seems correct to me :o
full mauve
:3
full mauve
今日は郵便局で葉書を出すために、切手を買いました。
seems correct to me :o
yes chat gpt is pretty op especially 4o
from my experience its correct 95% of the time
the more context u give it the more likely that its gonna be correct for translations
quartz stream
Learning Japanese is making my English sentence structure get weird wtf
In Duolingo you have questions where you translate it but I keep writing it in the Japanese structure as well without realising
Bruh
Need to learn to flip between the two better
cursive dock
it's funny
it's kinda like how in dutch/german they flip the names of numbers, 22 is "two and twenty"
quartz stream
I didn't know that, that is so weird
cursive dock
I didn't know that, that is so weird
@hearty socket liam called you weird
hearty socket
true
quartz stream
ew wtf
cursive dock
german fr just joins them all together as a single word wtf
hearty socket
german fr just joins them all together as a single word wtf
777,777,777
full mauve
German is the language of word stacking
hearty socket
German is the language of word stacking
Die Unbegrenztheit der deutschen
full mauve
Literally take any two or more words and just add them together and it will prolly work
hearty socket
Könige des neologismus
hearty socket
Literally take any two or more words and just add them together and it will prol...
The chance of that working is incredibly high
98% or so
hearty socket
Wortneuschöpfung
full mauve
Naruhododesune
hearty socket
That's from German class
Did you ever attend those
Fucking Berliners
I had that in 8th grade I think
abstract mist
@full mauve bocchi is kita???
abstract mist
@full mauve エロゲ分からないから別をおねがい
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> エロゲ分からないから別をおねがい
好きなタイプは？
full mauve
???
abstract mist
日本人があまり好きじゃないの？
はい, 、全然タイプじゃない
abstract mist
美人いっぱいいるのにー
日本に行ったことがないけど、凄く疑っている
full mauve
日本に行ったことがないけど、凄く疑っている
😭
abstract mist
専攻はなんだ？
情報システム
理由は軍人になりたくないから
何で軍に入りなきゃいけないんだ？！多くな人が病気に死ぬほどにばしょだよ
Hi mr looks
He came here to moderate
I will now get kicked from the discord server until I change as a person
full mauve
lol
full mauve
<:kmm_ojoy:1142548811890315354>何で軍に入りなきゃいけないんだ？！多くな人が病気に死ぬほどにばしょだよ
hidoi da n e
eroge > war
should i finish sakura moyu
abstract mist
hidoi da n e
We got flx hiragana 2 before gta 6
full mauve
too lazy to switch to jp kb moemnt
cursive dock
wise ember
222 is "two hundred two and twenty"
should be illegal
full mauve
fsrs is rlly good btw
feels like a good upgrade to the last time I used normal anki srs
abstract mist
hi flx
cursive dock
fsrs is rlly good btw
is it any different to just normal anki :o
i've only heard of srs
full mauve
is it any different to just normal anki :o
Its integrated in anki settings now
U just need to enable it
Its just srs but better
Like the algorithm is better
full mauve
abstract mist
@full mauvehi
lns are boring to read if I already watched the anime. Any ln recommendation that I haven't seen the anime of?
abstract mist
thx I'll read hopefully
full mauve
Both r like 1冊 works
abstract mist
so short
abstract mist
Both r like 1冊 works
should I read dazai
full mauve
if u want more typical romcon LN read クラスで２番目可愛い...
full mauve
should I read dazai
whats that
abstract mist
whats that
ningen shikkaku
full mauve
Reading that might be difficult but u do u💀
abstract mist
abstract mist
it's kinda like how in dutch/german they flip the names of numbers, 22 is "two a...
Fifteen is five and ten
wise ember
Hi gyze, how to type ディ without "deli" in android?
abstract mist
Hi gyze, how to type ディ without "deli" in android?
wise ember
I mean using normal keyboard
This abomination isn't used even among natives, at least I don't know a single human who uses it
*correcting myself, was referring to how qwerty is more popular over kana keyboard on desktop, thats obvious that 10 key input is more popular among phone-only users in everyday life
But based on how ineffective it is to get used to 2 typing methods at a time sticking to qwerty on a phone too
abstract mist
This abomination isn't used even among natives, at least I don't know a single h...
WHAT
it's so comfy, no way they don't use it, especially because it was the default on ketai
maybe you mean physical JIS keyboard kana input?
abstract mist
But based on how ineffective it is to get used to 2 typing methods at a time sti...
couldn't be further from the truth
there's an initial bump you need to go over
but you'll gain a lot of speed quickly
big buttons are just that good
it's inefficient now, but you'll be glad you learned it in a few weeks
- the 12 key is a very intuitive layout
and you're not getting used to 2 typing methods. You're only getting used to one, as you're already used to qwerty
cursive dock
*correcting myself, was referring to how qwerty is more popular over kana keyboa...
ig you mean on desktop
on mobile pretty sure 12 key is common
wise ember
*correcting myself, was referring to how qwerty is more popular over kana keyboa...
Yeah Ive clarified it here
wise ember
Hi gyze, how to type ディ without "deli" in android?
So theres no way of typing it?
Lol first time ever chatgpt gave me some meaningful answer
Its dhi
full mauve
chatgpt is literally goated wdym
i think out of like 300 korean questions ive asked chatgpt up until now it only messed up about 20-30 questions
compared to like a 50% fail rate on google translate and 20% on papago
abstract mist
Lol first time ever chatgpt gave me some meaningful answer
what's the difference between h and x
abstract mist
compared to like a 50% fail rate on google translate and 20% on papago
deepl no korean?
full mauve
Deepl is also meh
quartz stream
chatgpt is the most accurate from my experience
as it can understand context as well
google translate is appaling
like now that I'm learning japanese even like the most basic sentences get translated strangely
wise ember
chatgpt is literally goated wdym
Oh yeah its awesome about some linquistic stuff like difference between 2 similar words etc.
Im about some tech questions, its hit or miss
wise ember
what's the difference between h and x
i い
li ぃ
hi ひ
xi ぃ
di ぢ
dli dぃ
dhi でぃ
dxi ｄぃ
full mauve
https://youtu.be/neeyRLO95kw
german uses ne as well with the same meaning as in japanese lmao
wise ember
https://youtu.be/neeyRLO95kw
abstract mist
Such a big flx to know german, english, japanese, and korean
wise ember
russian uses ",не так ли?" [ne tak li] (not like this or?) but its a bit cringe imo, the other way is putting "же" [zhe] in the middle of a questionable sentence, mostly after pronouns
abstract mist
English has "innit bruv"
quartz stream
ne is like "right"? ne?
abstract mist
full mauve
Such a big flx to know german, english, japanese, and korean
imagine knowing korean
😭
i wish
i started studying hand written kanji today since i noticed ill need them for chinese down the road anyways
i thought about buying some tool but ill just do it with anki and one note i think
god bless anki
full mauve
https://youtube.com/shorts/TUPk72kmOKA?si=3uL4zl8VAVjQk46K
i never noticed lmao
i just do it by instinct when saying the words
power of immersion
🤣
wise ember
Wtf why this has a dedicated set of 4 characters for it: 魑魅魍魎
dusky carbon
i thought about buying some tool but ill just do it with anki and one note i thi...
:0 your handwriting is getting pretty good
full mauve
:0 your handwriting is getting pretty good
arigathanks 😭
im still noob but one day ill do calligraphy (not)
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> 時間潰しに何をやればいい？
anki
full mauve
i feel like a lunatic
abstract mist
出
full mauve
if u hate anki idk read ln
cursive dock
出
dusky carbon
出
full mauve
idk if learning kanji by kanken order was the way to go tbh
well its better than jlpt ig
im curious if jp students study by kanken order as well
wise ember
NI出出
dusky carbon
nihahahaha
plush merlinBOT
nihahahaha
abstract mist
nihahaha
cursive dock
nihahahaha
plush merlinBOT
nihahahaha
abstract mist
if u hate anki idk read ln
ラノベも嫌い
日本語嫌い
アニメめっちゃ好き
full mauve
ラノベも嫌い
日本語嫌い
アニメめっちゃ好き
💀
abstract mist
what do if manga or ln sounds interesting but I don't read it anyway
cursive dock
what do if manga or ln sounds interesting but I don't read it anyway
wait for anime adaptation which could never happen c:
abstract mist
cursive dock
inb4 they say "you put the milk first and then the cereals" so you ditch them immediately
also wrong channel 
abstract mist
inb4 they say "you put the milk first and then the cereals" so you ditch them im...
it a japanese person
dusky carbon
inb4 they say "you put the milk first and then the cereals" so you ditch them im...
REAL
cursive dock
the way i understand it (and this is kinda how Tae Kim explains it in his grammar guide), は is the "topic particle", while が is the "identifier particle"
the difference is that while は indicates the topic you're talking about, が identifies "the one" particular thing you're talking about
私は先生 - I am a teacher.
私が先生 - I am the teacher. (e.g. the one you were looking for or were talking about earlier)
in this case, by using が in "i like you", you're emphasizing the fact that they are the one person you like
anyone better at jp than me feel free to correct me, but tae kim's explaination of は vs が has always made the most sense to me
abstract mist
the difference is that while は indicates the topic you're talking about, が _iden...
I know the difference, but shouldn't it be きみを好き
cursive dock
also i don't think "kimi" is ever written in kana :o always the kanji 君
cursive dock
it's an easy kanji to remember 
abstract mist
I've seen all kinds of things written with just kana
Sometimes Japanese are too lazy to choose the kanji in short messages
cursive dock
nuh uh
cursive dock
Sometimes Japanese are too lazy to choose the kanji in short messages
ないす
too lazy to katakana too
quartz stream
naisu
cursive dock
speaking of 日本語上手 one day i'm gonna die from having to learn similar but different words
寝る (neru) vs 眠る (nemuru)
きっと (kitto) vs かならず (kanarazu)
死ぬ (shinu) vs 亡くなる (nakunaru)
止む (yamu) vs 辞める (yameru)
積り (tsumori) vs 計画 (keikaku)
答え (kotae) vs 返事 (henji)
_ _
also will definitely die from having to remember transitive vs intransitive verbs
開ける (akeru) = to open (transitive)
開く (aku) = to open (intransitive)
also wtf 開く can also be read as 開く (hiraku) but then the meaning changes slightly, and can be either transitive or intransitive
abstract mist
寝る (neru) vs 眠る (nemuru)
きっと (kitto) vs かならず (kanarazu)
死ぬ (shinu) vs 亡くなる (naku...
Exactly what's so difficult
Besides 1st one
cursive dock
Exactly what's so difficult
the differences aren't difficult, what's difficult is that they're easy to forget when so many words mean the same things
or not the same things, but similar things
and these are only N5-N4 examples, so i can imagine it's only scratching the surface
cursive dock
Besides 1st one
寝る (neru) and 眠る (nemuru) both mean "to sleep", the difference is that 寝る (neru) is about the act of "going to sleep" (for example, going to lie down in bed), while 眠る (nemuru) is about the state of "being asleep" (unconscious)
i had to look it up 
abstract mist
man
I don't see at all how tsumori and keikaku are similar
then again, I guess they both mean "plans" in English
cursive dock
man
I don't see at all how tsumori and keikaku are similar
not as similar as the other words on the list
abstract mist
I would translate as "intent" vs "plan" though
cursive dock
but you get me
abstract mist
I keep forgetting that IME uses nn for ん
cursive dock
yea it's just easier to remember different words when their meanings are very different as well, when they all mean similar stuff, it's harder to remember
obv i also have doodoo memory skill issue
abstract mist
I'm playing a game of thesaurus
cursive dock
there's also 見る, 見える, 見せる, 見つかる, 見つける, which are all pretty different, and even tho this is an easy example, you can see how with more advanced examples this could get confusing
abstract mist
these are just conjugations
cursive dock
are they? they're just different words
abstract mist
miru - will watch
mieru - can watch
miseru - will make you watch
mitsukaru - will be found
mitsukeru - will find
cursive dock
not conjugations
cursive dock
i did talk about transitive vs intransitive verbs
abstract mist
聞こえる、聞かせる、聞く
cursive dock
開ける (akeru) = to open (transitive)
開く (aku) = to open (intransitive)
also wtf 開...
here
abstract mist
Idk what that means sorry
cursive dock
Idk what that means sorry
it means what you said
transitive = active verb
intransitive = passive verb
abstract mist
Oh. To thing vs to be thinged
cursive dock
and it doesn't mean it's a conjugation, cuz there doesn't really seem to be much of a pattern
if at all
they're just different words that just start with the same kanji
cursive dock
i mean, unless i'm wrong lmao
conjugations are like, past and/or polite forms, and negation
they have very recognizable patterns (tho with exceptions ofc, yay language)
abstract mist
i mean, unless i'm wrong lmao
cursive dock
this is getting more confusing
ig there's no point memorizing
just gotta read more and have a feel for it
cursive dock
where did you find this btw
abstract mist
where did you find this btw
jisho
abstract mist
<:kmm_o:1051987363544436797>
当たり前じゃないですか、あのカナメさんですよ
新たな漢字が出た
I just realized, がた such as in "あなた方", "先輩方", 先生方 doesn't just make things plural. It has a meaning, "group". So "a group of senpais" or "a group of you".
I understood it because of blood types
You guys call them types, but in Russian, we call them blood groups
O-方 means "blood group O"
Also in Russian we use a different kind of blood type naming system. Mine is "first positive". "First" meaning "type 0" and "positive" meaning Rh+
There's 4 groups of blood. Overall I think it's less intuitive than AB0
nvm I'm stupid
The kanji is different
Me when I have a pattern seeking brain
wise ember
寝る (neru) and 眠る (nemuru) both mean "to sleep", the difference is that 寝る (neru)...
For me relatable nouns help a lot
E.g. 寝る and 眠る are easier to distinguish when you know 睡眠
Or e.g. 見る and 視る(legacy) by knowing 視力
Or 喋る and 論じる by 結論
full mauve
im not quite at 28 but im suprised at myself that im keeping a streak tbh
tawdry otter
💀
but it must say i cheated some days because i was lazy
so i didnt do every day with full focus lool
tawdry otter
not rlly
wise ember
Lifehack of a day - you can get to fluency in Taiwan traditional chinese before learning japanese so it will be a bit easier to learn kanji
hearty socket
It's CANTonese for a reason
quartz stream
am currently holding a 28 day streak on the flashcards
W
abstract mist
learn standard jp first
全部分かっとるし、変な言葉ないや
full mauve
噓つきやろ
abstract mist
cursive dock
寝る (neru) vs 眠る (nemuru)
きっと (kitto) vs かならず (kanarazu)
死ぬ (shinu) vs 亡くなる (naku...
気持ち (kimochi) vs 気分 (kibun)
full mauve
aku vs hiraku still gets me sometimes
abstract mist
https://tenor.com/view/anime-aesthetic-food-ramen-gif-19220701
this is from Koizumi san
what is this anime and two cute ladies
maou sama retry
I'm not gonna watch it progbably
full mauve
kawaii
cursive dock
https://youtu.be/EHqPrHTN1dU?si=Ow-jhwltIot6q6m7
truly one of the keyboards of all time
abstract mist
or is that serious💀
ofc it isn't
full mauve
Vocab cards r better btw
abstract mist
No cards
abstract mist
I'll probably do vocab cards. That's the only information I need anyway
full mauve
I got a sentence on the back that I use if I dont remember the word itself
But I only press good if i got the word itself right
full mauve
I only use the sentence to make sure I study one meaning at a time
full mauve
reached 30 day streak <:kmm_tohruflex:1051255603902824558>
Damn
Im struggling with 10
But well I do like 4 decks
cursive dock
tbf this is N5-N4
full mauve
Just noticed i havent done my grammar deck yet fml
full mauve
tbf this is N5-N4
So u know like half of it already ?
cursive dock
i recognize many of the words
cursive dock
So u know like half of it already ?
well more "i've heard this word before" type of knowing
abstract mist
Should I mine the decks myself or use an existing one for like the most common 500 words
cursive dock
like for example 興味 (きょうみ), i wouldn't have been able to tell you from memory but hearing it i recognize it from anime phrases (like for example 興味がある？)
which makes it easier for me to memorize c:
honestly idek where i heard that phrase, but it's there somewhere in my brain, somehow
abstract mist
like for example 興味 (きょうみ), i wouldn't have been able to tell you from memory bu...
気になりました？
abstract mist
think i've heard that too :o
お気になされましたですか？
abstract mist
お気になされましたですか？
Hear this quite often in fantasy setting about nobles
tawdry otter
Should I mine the decks myself or use an existing one for like the most common 5...
did u do core decks?
abstract mist
No I can't read anything
tawdry otter
id say if you got one of the major core decks done then you can mine
cursive dock
Should I mine the decks myself or use an existing one for like the most common 5...
i heard that you most likely wanna use premade decks at first
tawdry otter
i mean you can always mine but idk if its worth for super common words
full mauve
honestly idek where i heard that phrase, but it's there somewhere in my brain, s...
lol thats convenient
If ure missing a lot of common words core decks r smart yr
tawdry otter
yeah
full mauve
I only decided to skip core decks with Korean cuz of my jp 語彙 advantage
abstract mist
hi flx
i c ur gtng lazier by the day
full mauve
wdym😭
abstract mist
you're typing with lots of shortenings
tawdry otter
you're typing with lots of shortenings
thats just us germans in general
abstract mist
I'm lazier on pc. I type exactly the same but I recently became too lazy to press my shift key
full mauve
Also i will not be able to go to the bday i wanted to go to thanks to german trains so now i can immerse yay
Kms
I wanna go back to Japan
😭😭😭
abstract mist
pffft, you should've known to come to the station a day before the train comes. so that you can take the yesterday's train when the train you bought the tickets for is cancelled
cursive dock
I'm lazier on pc. I type exactly the same but I recently became too lazy to pres...
lowercase >
full mauve
He says you gotta include at least 2 hours of delay time each time you ride
cursive dock
i've purposefully disabled auto-capitalization on my mobile keyboard
abstract mist
when we ride the bus we include 10 minutes of delay into whatever time the map says it takes. 10 on top of the waiting time the map expects
full mauve
POV: my whole ride takes 30mins but I go ahead and try to take the train 2 hrs early and still come late
full mauve
i've purposefully disabled auto-capitalization on my mobile keyboard
I always wanted to do that but im too lazy
abstract mist
atri my dear moments?
abstract mist
Oh I watched that ANIME
abstract mist
I'm broke asf I need to get a job
full mauve
Vn adaptations suck usually
abstract mist
I'm so broke I can't even pay for necessities
Like veggies and fruit, my phone plan, or a new phone (the current one is on life support)
tawdry otter
How much is atri rn
full mauve
I just waste my money on Stocks
full mauve
How much is atri rn
8€
tawdry otter
Too much
abstract mist
I'm pirating $15 games broke rn ye
got yelled at by someone for that because it's an indie game
tawdry otter
Just dont tell people xd
full mauve
fr
abstract mist
💀 I wanted to show them that the torrent client looks shit after an upgrade
full mauve
its ok to pirate if ure broke
tawdry otter
its ok to pirate if ure broke
Tell that the laywer
full mauve
dont be like max and me and pirate if u actually have money
abstract mist
its ok to pirate if the game is EA
tawdry otter
jk ik what you mean
full mauve
fr
abstract mist
oh no the moderation team is coming to tell us not to discuss piracy
cursive dock
difference between pirating and buying a game is that when you pirate the game you actually own it
tawdry otter
dont be like max and me and pirate if u actually have money
Dont know what you mean
abstract mist
Max
tawdry otter
Yes
abstract mist
Did you know Ryo does vtubing
tawdry otter
No
cursive dock
ryo va?
tawdry otter
Oh...
abstract mist
Why didn't you guys respond when I posted this in animanga 
cursive dock
this is Ryo vtuber
https://youtu.be/uIIPq4p6d6Y?si=_ERsbvzwgpwCX9xA
wao she says ikuyo in the first 12 seconds
kita ikuyo
cursive dock
Why didn't you guys respond when I posted this in animanga <:konacry:72700982095...
i didn't watch the video
back then
abstract mist
i didn't watch the video
lux this is crazy
today I started hearing hitsounds in osu
cursive dock
lux this is crazy
today I started hearing hitsounds in osu
what does that even mean
abstract mist
what does that even mean
wrong channel
but I changed earbuds and they seem to be more balanced towards making you hear hitsounds
abstract mist
wao she says ikuyo in the first 12 seconds
the anime has all sorts of people, I'm pretty sure they're based on like, real life vtuber types?
I'm pretty sure I saw Shigure Ui (illustrator), Matsuri (very energetic/chaotic and she's very good at games), Yuzuki Choco (revealing outfit and seductive character), Okayu (catgirl, didn't appear much), 🅱️in🅱️en🅱️ose (degenerate prince), etc etc
...Himemori Luna? The little baby type?
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> 酷いです😭
nani
cursive dock
the anime has all sorts of people, I'm pretty sure they're based on like, real l...
anime?
abstract mist
@cursive dock 言ってvs 聞かせて
plush merlinBOT
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAPmnkYBrqN/?igsh=aWxueGRiZXhsYmg3
full mauve
:(
abstract mist
sounds interesting
full mauve
www
tacit stirrup
@abstract mist @cursive dock uhhhhh
full mauve
katakana >
abstract mist
katakana >
is it normal that I couldn;t figure it out until you wrote in katakana
quartz stream
I only know hiragana 😎
dusky carbon
i only know hiragana and katakana 😎
hearty socket
I only know 😎
cursive dock
😎_ _
full mauve
i only know hangul 😎
abstract mist
I only know that I don't know anything
abstract mist
new yorushika song reference
Socrates...
full mauve
Socrates...
😏
wise ember
It's CANTonese for a reason
Good one frfr
wise ember
Socrates...
Monogatari...
abstract mist
Sounds fun I'll read
Lend 500 yen to a friend and forget, years later loan sharks come in with your friend's little sister 💀
abstract mist
full mauve
idk who calls it a subject particle
i always hear "topic marker particle"
oh nvm
u talking about ga not wa mb
英語が上手になりたい is a bit tricky
you have an omit "I" in japanese here
meanwhile in en u say "I want to become good at engulishu"
私は英語が上手になりたい is also grammatically correct , 私が英語が上手になりたい as well but it only fits in very specific context really
TLDR: read more
abstract mist
@full mauve what happened to moeway discord
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> what happened to moeway discord
a bit of a revolution happened and im mod now
lmao
abstract mist
a bit of a revolution happened and im mod now
LOLLLL
Lightnovels won't be deleted right m
?
abstract mist
are u even on tmw ?
No, I got an announcement ping on refold about tmw people flooding the server. Joined once, didn't send any messages, and forgot to leave
I'm sleep bye bye
full mauve
No, I got an announcement ping on refold about tmw people flooding the server. J...
i see
if u want i can get u student role
abstract mist
Yeah I want to get it through legal means
cursive dock
full mauve
full mauve
do u need any book?
abstract mist
do u need any book?
Not anymore, I guess I'm studying for student role now
full mauve
alr
full mauve
abstract mist
I'd never have learned coup d'etat if it weren't for Japanese lmao
full mauve
なに
cursive dock
なに
abstract mist
@full mauve touhou means eastern lands???
Actually makes sense!!! Tou (from Tokyo) meaning "east" and "hou" meaning "direction"
So touhou the bullet hell means "eastern lands"
hearty socket
So touhou the bullet hell means "eastern lands"
One of the touhou is story of Eastern wonderland
abstract mist
One of the touhou is story of Eastern wonderland
Yes touhou means "eastern direction"
hearty socket
Yes touhou means "eastern direction"
One of the games
hearty socket
No, literally
I was agreeing with you
abstract mist
I was agreeing with you
Oh I see
I thought you meant "only one of the touhou games"
wise ember
齷齪しすぎて齟齬を生んでしまう
Oh god why its so similar
full mauve
Ive watched an anime again after like a 7 month pause
So much stuff to catch up on
Also watched 十六歳の戦争
I thought its hilarious and weird in the first hour and then the second half just really surprised me
豊川空襲酷かったな
安らかにお眠りください🙏
full mauve
abstract mist
Dondobi donbi afureido
full mauve
it took me like 2 seconds to understand what she meant
katanglish is wierd
wierd
weird
i cant spell
full mauve
正解!
cursive dock
abstract mist
Hi everyone. What do you guys think skinship means?
full mauve
肌と肌との触れ合い。また、それによる心の交流。
abstract mist
思い直した！銀髪最強
cursive dock
abstract mist
@hearty socket
hearty socket
<@730832676738564096>
i already saw that video on my ownt ime few months ago lmao
abstract mist
hearty socket
THE herta won't be on there
It was
cursive dock
they buffed her
abstract mist
@full mauve oyakodon...
chicken-and-egg don
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> oyakodon...
abstract mist
What animes does flex like
full mauve
Ao no hako
good
Rezero s3 also nice but i still know the story so its kinda boring
When s4 drops im finally not ahead anymore but by then ill probably start reading the ln again
😭
abstract mist
Flx my oshi
full mauve
time to read 人間失格
abstract mist
abstract mist
Watched 9 minutes of anime
Realized I FORGOT SUBTITLES
It was so natural???
@full mauve
Help me
full mauve
?
hearty socket
Realized I FORGOT SUBTITLES
great
abstract mist
flx are you 変態性欲
full mauve
flx are you 変態性欲
Dont 爬羅剔抉 me
im curious if xapia is good at yoji cuz she knows chinese
dusky carbon
im curious if xapia is good at yoji cuz she knows chinese <:kmm_pepehmm:93279240...
whats yoji
full mauve
四字熟語
abstract mist
abstract mist
@full mauve shokugeki no souma
Why do they call him へんゆうせい and not てんこうせい？
Afaik he transferred to the school in the middle of the term?
Could be wrong though
abstract mist
Also do you like beef stew
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> shokugeki no souma
Why do they call him へんゆうせい and not てん...
へんにゅうせい
Its when u quit school and later apply at another school
転入生 is when you switch schools but r still a student and dont quit school at all
full mauve
Also do you like beef stew
ya
full mauve
<@142570933322776577> wait do you like frieren
nah
she is ok
but her hair is basically gray
abstract mist
but her hair is basically gray
Well she is a grandma
My hatsukoi was silver hair
I wish...
cursive dock
https://youtu.be/sjUVuDm4LGQ 🔥 collab
full mauve
im curious if dogen would pass immortal on moeway
abstract mist
足 flx have you ever thought that this looks korean
full mauve
not rlly
frail leafBOT
@full mauve, you've reached level 60! ☄️
cursive dock
quartz stream
the anime man can do this with ease
hearty socket
https://youtube.com/shorts/SfW9JHIHiuY
Can you imagine an imaginary menagerie manager managing an imaginary menagerie
cursive dock
Can you imagine an imaginary menagerie manager managing an imaginary menagerie
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JOvbeeFLZ2M this channel is so funny
i've been getting many of their shorts in my feed lately
abstract mist
Twitter
abstract mist
What's slice of life in Japanese
full mauve
日常系 if you refer to the genre ig
abstract mist
omg flx my oshi
abstract mist
😭 he didn't get it
full mauve
エロゲのヒロインを寝取る男に転生したが、俺は絶対に寝取らない
pretty ok series
not as bad as it sounds
suprisingly
abstract mist
not as bad as it sounds
It sounds very fun to me actually