#日本語
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abstract mist
It's starting, gyze
I forgot what わがまま is in English. I can't pick a word that fits it
About time I forget English to make some space in my mind for a language I'm never gonna use
full mauve
selfish fits most of the time id say
full mauve
got my itinerary almost done now 
Yokohama --> Kagoshima --> Fukuoka --> Hiroshima --> Fukuyama --> Takamatsu
this helped a lot ngl 💀
dusky carbon
Yokohama --> Kagoshima --> Fukuoka --> Hiroshima --> Fukuyama --> Takamatsu
damn
bro planned out a full on tour
meanwhile i have a 50/50 chance of going to hokkaido in july/august
we'll see if the gacha gods let me win
cursive dock
It's starting, gyze
I forgot what わがまま is in English. I can't pick a word that f...
wagamama mirror heart
abstract mist
selfish fits most of the time id say
Selfish request!!! That
full mauve
we'll see if the gacha gods let me win
BlessRNG
dusky carbon
BlessRNG
holy shit it might be happening my parents just went to a travel fair today and are considering going for the tour 
cant wait to spend a week somewhere with nice cool weather even though its months away 
full mauve
holy shit it might be happening my parents just went to a travel fair today and ...
POGG
would be awesome to hear some thoughts on hokkaido
dusky carbon
would be awesome to hear some thoughts on hokkaido
i mean it would be my second time going to hokkaido actually
but didnt stay for long the first time i went
if it happens, ill be spending a whole week in hokkaido and hokkaido only
full mauve
i mean it would be my second time going to hokkaido actually
Damn how was hokkaido when you went last time?
dusky carbon
Damn how was hokkaido when you went last time?
cold
difficult to walk
good food
best milk ever
all i did in hokkaido was stay indoors (most of the time) and eat the best food ever
my cousins went skiing, i ate cake 👍
the only time i did leave the hotel/apartment was when we all went snowmobiling up the mountains, i was still a kiddo back then so i sat with my dad
💀👍
we were close to an aeon, so everyday my dad and my uncle would go grocery shopping and we'd cook
the beef? heavenly
seafood? heavenly
the fridge was just full of beef
my cousin would kiss each tray before he went to sleep every night 
the beef, the butter, the milk
gosh
that was a taste i would never ever forget
i could drink
2 cups of milk everyday
id never get bored of it
the food is just
amazing
all we had to do was go to aeon and grab some stuff
man i wish the aeon here had such good stuff 
OH AND THE VEGETABLES
SO FRESH
SO CLEAN
SO SUCCULENT
man idk i just
food good yeah you get the point
dusky carbon
Food in Japan is amazing frfr
real
well i hope it happens
my dad gets terribly fussy over small things so if there's anything that puts him off he just doesnt wanna go anymore 💀
we'll see
like he's lowkey still getting pissed over needing to stay overnight in tokyo/osaka before flying to hokkaido because there arent any direct flights
dusky carbon
They are nice cities too tho
they are, but idk he's got something against stopping there instead of direct flights
ive also been to osaka
but both my parents have been all over japan many times because of work
hearty socket
@full mauve
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?
hearty socket
what it say
full mauve
error code 11
pls read the manual
hearty socket
nice, i dont have a manual fopr a game that only camer out in japan
full mauve
did u crack it
hearty socket
piracy
full mauve
ye then u need local emulator
hearty socket
i am using an emulator
full mauve
if u using japanese emulator and its offline game it should work 99.99%
if its online u need vpn too
hearty socket
the game is 30 years old
abstract mist
error code 11
pls read the manual
Oh so that's what エラー is
abstract mist
Today I learned that a lot of Kazakh grammar can be directly mapped to Japanese
It don't have wa and ga, but it does have desu ka, ni, kara
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ALSO 170 DAM
abstract mist
Is USD 510?
vapid sageBOT
Rate as of:
abstract mist
Yen is falling off faster than tenge
I remember yen as "3 times more expensive than tenge", but here it is at like 2.5 expensive instead
full mauve
lol
cursive dock
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This guy makes pretty nice vids
Japanese will think youre a pro if you say 結構です。or 大丈夫です w
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Japanese will think youre a pro if you say 結構です。or 大丈夫です w
lmao even tho you can easily pick that up from anime
full mauve
lmao even tho you can easily pick that up from anime
rlly?
i think anime rarely uses stuff like that tbh
full mauve
it definetly happens but id say its pretty rare
like this would only happen in a pretty realistic anime
and most anime arent realistic at all
cursive dock
but i think daijoubu to mean "no thanks" is pretty common
full mauve
if you personally watch a lot of like slice of life realistic anime then it might be a bit more common tho
daijoubu is pretty common true
maybe my image of Japanese learners is just a bit too low lol
I always think of the guy I was in tokyo that went "AH iie!!" after being asked if he wants a back when I think of the average guy going to japan for some reason
to be fair even knowing that much is already amazing if ure just there for vacation
cursive dock
maybe my image of Japanese learners is just a bit too low lol
dunno i just pay attention to what they're saying in anime even if my knowledge is very limited lmao
a lot gets lost in translation and it's cool to pick up on it
livid pecan
lmfao I dont know how to read japanese characters well yet so when I see yall type them my brain translates it to like key spam as I read it in my head
"i've definitely heard asiphjgaspi and 0ae8tyhes0 in anime"
abstract mist
lmfao I dont know how to read japanese characters well yet so when I see yall ty...
Same
Me when I'm a weaboo with commitment issues
livid pecan
lmfao
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"i've definitely heard asiphjgaspi and 0ae8tyhes0 in anime"
Lol i feel you
For korean its also the same for me
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abstract mist
Nohongo
hearty socket
nothongo
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yeshongo
winter coral
Mehongo
dusky carbon
youhongo
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hongo
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wehongo
tawdry otter
suhongo
livid pecan
He she me hongo
abstract mist
Where did
The word "Japan" come from?
In Russian, we say "Yaponiya". Which means "the word of the Yapon" I guess
cursive dock
i just looked it up
As mentioned above, the English word Japan has a circuitous derivation; but linguists believe it derives in part from the Portuguese recording of the Early Mandarin Chinese or Wu Chinese word for Japan: Cipan (日本), which is rendered in pinyin as Rìběn (IPA: ʐʅ˥˩pən˨˩˦), and literally translates to "sun origin".
according to wikipedia
hearty socket
@full mauve you ばたくさい, you stinky ばたくさい
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nanisore
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but wouldnt u say youre then lol
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Chinese in the comment section wildin www
dusky carbon
fr
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just booked my last flight for my japan trip yay
abstract mist
"last flight'?
Why do you make it sound like you're going to perform a terrorist act involving an airplane
dusky carbon
just booked my last flight for my japan trip yay
yay (my japan trip did not happen)
accidentally made july way too busy
full mauve
japan is joever anyways dw
society that relies on imports and this is happening to them oh no
they do need the power of anime on their side to make a comeback from this economic recline ngl
hearty socket
japan is joever anyways dw
Deutschland gewinnt
hearty socket
they do need the power of anime on their side to make a comeback from this econo...
Not as much
hearty socket
That's everyone
hearty socket
india will go boom next years
From China's nukes
India? No way they will just suddenly go up
They have so many issues
full mauve
India? No way they will just suddenly go up
they are now the largest country on earth so its only natural that theyll eventually do the china and skyrocket
hearty socket
https://www.forbesindia.com/article/explainers/gdp-india/85337/1
Well sure but they have Japan type social issues
Good luck to them however
hearty socket
china also has some social issues but they booming
Smog killing them
cursive dock
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💀
next thing he is gonna say こんにちは isnt actually "hello" but 今日は "this day" 💥
and sayonara is 左様なら and just means "if that is so" 
tawdry otter
crazy busted
cursive dock
next thing he is gonna say こんにちは isnt actually "hello" but 今日は "this day" 💥
exactly
abstract mist
殺す気 is more like "intent to murder (somebody)"
thank you
abstract mist
what offer
Read what the anime/manga is called, starts with "ryoushin"
Translation under spoiler
||"To repay her parents' loan, the #1 cutest high school girl started living with me"||
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@abstract mist
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<@983026484614660137>
why are you so sexy
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🤣
I thought it was in pins tbh
but its the one thing i forgor to add to the mega resource post
mb
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damn more german
abstract mist
Doitsu
wise ember
@abstract mist
https://youtu.be/A29iPpd3Frc
Can prove?
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<@983026484614660137>
https://youtu.be/A29iPpd3Frc
Can prove?
I watched this but don't remember what it's about
Yeah they often have similarities. 0 similarities in lexicon but grammar is often the same thing but uses different words
I think the similarities come from them being agglutinative languages
wise ember
Oh I see
abstract mist
I watched this but don't remember what it's about
Yeah they often have similarit...
I say words but I really mean particles and conjugations
Also Kazakh usually has 4 particles for one function
You choose whichever one sounds the nicest next to the word before it, there are rules for it but idk them
For example, the particle か used to ask questions, is ma/me/ba/pe?
"じゃないか？" becomes "emes pe?", but "サピアか？" becomes "sapia ma?"
We also don't use pitch accent, we use stress accent. It's also much simpler than other languages I know such as Russian and English - you stress the last syllable of the root word
wise ember
We also don't use pitch accent, we use stress accent. It's also much simpler tha...
So almost polish kind of stress?
abstract mist
So almost polish kind of stress?
idk about polish stress but I know that russian stress is complicated
abstract mist
wise ember
@cursive dock https://modrinth.com/resourcepack/furigana
A client one if I understand correctly, but its a huge thing, really convenient imo
wise ember
@cursive dock when installing manually modrinth mods into curseforge, do I just copy resourcepack into resourcepacks and a mod into mods? Do I need to do any extra steps or configs?
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> when installing manually modrinth mods into curseforge, do...
i've never tried going from modrinth to curseforge, only the other way around
but usually yes
it should work out-of-the-box if you just move the jar files to their respective folders
and zip files for resource packs
wise ember
@cursive dock this one https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/texture-packs/furigana-for-japanese
@cursive dock the second one works, tho only partially (furigana-ish for vanilla and 50% of mods english, 50% kanji)
frail leafBOT
@wise ember, you've reached level 7! ☄️
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> the second one works, tho only partially (furigana-ish for...
ah with parenthesis
so it's just a language resourcepack instead of a mod
wise ember
Yeah the first one (ruby) is an actual mod that crashes cuz of some shit I'd like to deal with a bit later
Tho would be good if someone tries ruby too so we could find out is it a broken mod or is it my java version
cursive dock
Tho would be good if someone tries ruby too so we could find out is it a broken ...
yeah it crashes for me too and i'm using modrinth so i installed it directly
abstract mist
Idk if you guys saw this but it's genius
@full mauve @dusky carbon
You learn something even if you know Japanese already
full mauve
the pronunciation of romaji 💀
wise ember
@abstract mist I've tried this one, kinda convenient as there are word-by-word explanations after the text, tho the vocabulary has some rarely-used words sometimes
abstract mist
<@983026484614660137> I've tried this one, kinda convenient as there are word-by...
very cool
сахар орехус
wise ember
сахар орехус
そんな名前の人、知らない～～☆
abstract mist
そんな名前の人、知らない～～☆
I'm not gonna lie I have no idea what you're saying
But I'll take it as a compliment
wise ember
I'm not gonna lie I have no idea what you're saying
https://youtu.be/qBClLIT_aLU?si=WficbEeVCTkwEcAa
sou desu ne?
abstract mist
https://youtu.be/qBClLIT_aLU?si=WficbEeVCTkwEcAa
sou desu ne?
そうね、日本人と話すことが無いけど
livid pecan
what does the title say lol
this whole video is just tectone saying random japanese words I love it
cursive dock
what does the title say lol
わたしは日本語を喋った？
watashi wa nihongo wo shabetta?
did i speak japanese? / i spoke japanese?
livid pecan
lol
cursive dock
lmfao
hearty socket
lmao
hearty socket
@full mauve tag explanation unavailable
full mauve
just uploaded all my jp dictionaries, the file is like 1.9gb extracted 🤣
if i hadnt removed my korean and chinese dics it wouldve been 3gigs lmao
u can just share all ur dictionaries in one file now its so convenient
cursive dock
full mauve
広告
abstract mist
abstract mist
You can use が multiple times in a sentence?
full mauve
ye its like a sub sentence ?
full mauve
No matter how you put it, the reason that I am not popular is your fault!
it comes from the no wa
xのはY
u can use ga in each x and y
i dont know the real grammatical terms but if u google that u should find smth
cursive dock
i dont know the real grammatical terms but if u google that u should find smth
in english they're called "complex sentences" because they combine multiple "clauses"
and a "simple sentence" only contains one "clause"
sometimes people say "sentence" instead of "clause" but that can be confusing xd
modern jolt
Found the channel less go
Gyze, I feel like attempting to learn Japanese again, where shall I start?
https://youtu.be/7fvCb5_Nzq4?si=DyBQEZJyozgvDXX4 This video seems pretty legit to me
Besides the title, my guy says it's not that hard then says later in the video to not go into speaking until like 6-12 months into it 
wise ember
Besides the title, my guy says it's not that hard then says later in the video t...
If you mean speaking with natives, it would be both disturbing for them and disappointing for you to try it for the first 1-2 months. I'd call it 3-4 months in (at post-JLPTN5 grammar level) where you already can start practicing, it worth it
The same for watching anime and stuff, almost 0 effectiveness if you're not dedicated enough before N4-ish level
modern jolt
If you mean speaking with natives, it would be both disturbing for them and disa...
I assumed by speaking he just meant trying to sound out sentences in stuff to yourself, not speaking with other people, but if that's what he meant then it definitely makes more sense
wise ember
(JLPT just for a approximate reference, its actually completely useless to go JLPT textbooks and tests)
wise ember
I assumed by speaking he just meant trying to sound out sentences in stuff to yo...
I've managed to keep conversation after like 5 months in, but the practice with natives itself started to give an actual motivation and experience after ~4 months
(by months I mean every day of actual learning)
So its not fast but neither not slow, its not a difficult language
The most difficult part was from month 2 to month 3 where its already past N5 grammar but N4-ish adds too much new vocab and grammar, its like a plateau after which your progress speeds up a lot
wise ember
Gyze, I feel like attempting to learn Japanese again, where shall I start?
I started with Minna no Nihongo but after all the stuff won't consider it the best choice, tho theres at least 2 youtube playlist on this textbook, voiced
At least don't use Genki, its shit
Just try to finish at least one N5-ish textbook fully so you get a grasp what the language is like
modern jolt
Where would you recommend starting? As like the first building blocks of starting to learn?
wise ember
Where would you recommend starting? As like the first building blocks of startin...
(the less "pick 1 word and insert it into the sentence"-like tasks in the textbook and the more "read the text and understand how those words are used in the context"-like tasks are there - the better)
Just straight skip all the "pick 1 word and insert it into the sentence" - it's not a learning, it even makes it worse as you're getting bad habits or the grammar and vocab usage, just like a whole duolingo thing does
@modern jolt oh also a common thing
Don't try to learn kanji. It comes naturally. Like, literally, you just read furigana texts. After some time you starting to skip looking at furigana while reading (its told you need to encounter a word ~10 independent times in the text to remember its kanji)
Those kanji learners are either having too much free time or making a poor decision (as they coud've spent all this time actually learning the language instead)
modern jolt
So should I start by learning hiragana and katakana, then trying to read furigana textbooks/easy books, whilst listening to Japanese podcasts and stuff in free time?
wise ember
https://youtu.be/7fvCb5_Nzq4?si=DyBQEZJyozgvDXX4 This video seems pretty legit t...
This guy exaterrating it too much
exposure to a language spoken by native speakers several hours a day
Thats a bullshit
Like bro, we all have a real life, job and stuff
You need an exposure but like, 1 hour is kinda already enough, the important one is having it regularly
wise ember
So should I start by learning hiragana and katakana, then trying to read furigan...
Yeah totally, it takes 1 week top
(hiragana + katakana)
modern jolt
Can I just use any app/resource for hira+kata?
wise ember
N5 textbooks are commonly written in mostly hiragana so it would be enough to understand
wise ember
Can I just use any app/resource for hira+kata?
I was learning it on a piece of paper back then, like, its just 46 letters, anything is ok
70% of hiragana should be pretty easy, should get for the first day, theres several similar letters or difficult to pronounce ones which takes the rest of the week
cursive dock
Can I just use any app/resource for hira+kata?
for android, i highly recommend an app called Kanji Study
stroke order is animated and it tests you by making you draw the characters (also has stroke detection so you have your device evaluate your drawings)
it makes memorizing sooooooooo much faster
modern jolt
for android, i **highly** recommend an app called [Kanji Study](<https://play.go...
Thanks, my lazy ass was fr about to watch an hour long YouTube video
@cursive dock have you had any issues with this?
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> have you had any issues with this?
yes if you use xiaomi's "dark mode" setting that automatically makes apps dark mode even if they don't have it
it'll cause rendering issues with character animations
cuz the device doesn't know it's not supposed to darken it
modern jolt
yes if you use xiaomi's "dark mode" setting that automatically makes apps dark m...
Is it this one?
modern jolt
Should be fine
I'll look into it more if I have an issuee
@cursive dock Where is the hiragana on this app?
cursive dock
Is it this one?
oh it's probably the bottom setting ye
that one tries to detect what's text and what's background and changes the colors
it wrongly identifies the character animations so it renders weird
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> Where is the hiragana on this app?
sidebar menu, "Kana"
modern jolt
Nvm it's under kana for some reason, I'm guessing there's a valid reason for that which I'm too uninformed to know yet
cursive dock
yes
cursive dock
Kana is Hiragana and Katakana
"kana" is used to refer both of them
@modern jolt you can set your study rating with these stars for each of the characters
then when you press "Study" on the bottom right, you can choose which ratings you wanna test yourself on
i recommend Writing Challenges with these settings but do whatever you feel like c:
i just share cuz i've tried many things and ended up with this
might find useful
modern jolt
<@590877129529622528> you can set your study rating with these stars for each of...
Oh that's way more useful than I thought, for some reason I assumed it should be like a 1-5 star rating for some reason
cursive dock
double tap here to practice drawing
modern jolt
i recommend Writing Challenges with these settings but do whatever you feel like...
Thanks 
I shall use these
cursive dock
modern jolt
Is this audio right? It sounds like a car horn
modern jolt
I love this character man, it literally looks exactly like it's romanji counterpart
cursive dock
wtf i never thought of that
cursive dock
i recommend Writing Challenges with these settings but do whatever you feel like...
also it says last studied 518 days ago
modern jolt
Bunni rabbit
modern jolt
have you tried drawing any yet
Not yet, I'm still going through them all just to get a base line of what each one is
cursive dock
i love the ui in this app but this button is impossible to understand what it does by just looking at it 😭 it switches between free draw and challenge mode
modern jolt
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あやや
modern jolt
i love the ui in this app but this button is impossible to understand what it do...
Ohhh, that's like the standard symbol for refreshing lmao, I never would've guessed
Some of these are literally the exact same character with just an extra line or circle 
cursive dock
Ohhh, that's like the standard symbol for refreshing lmao, I never would've gues...
ye should've been smth like this ⮀
modern jolt
All the other ones were so simple then they randomly pull out boushiwokaburu 
cursive dock
Some of these are literally the exact same character with just an extra line or ...
they're called "voicing marks", dakuten and handakuten, respectively
は (ha)
ば (ba)
ぱ (pa)
i like to think of dakuten as "more aggressive version of this sound"
and handakuten is just "h → p"
modern jolt
How tf do I even pronounce this bro
abstract mist
Gyze, I feel like attempting to learn Japanese again, where shall I start?
watch anime
with no sub
modern jolt
watch anime
cursive dock
watch anime
read VNs
abstract mist
WTF
cursive dock
in japanese, with japanese text
abstract mist
no yomitan in vns I think
I want to watch youtube in japanese but I don't know any channels
cursive dock
no yomitan in vns I think
i have it set up to use yomichan
old screenshot but ye
i use a program to extract the text from the game
have it automatically copy to clipboard, which yomichan picks up
it's really nice
@modern jolt just so you know, playing eroge is a genuine method to learn jp
modern jolt
<@590877129529622528> just so you know, playing eroge is a genuine method to lea...
Sign me tf up
Finna be fluent in 2 months less go
cursive dock
flx can vouch c:
wise ember
Bunni rabbit
This one I remembered as
ぬ I grab a NOOdle with a curved chopstick
め Oh no it fell down what a MEss
modern jolt
Can I just download any random japanese VN and go ham? Or do I need to specifically look for beginner friendly ones?
modern jolt
You need one that you like
How am I gonna know that I like it if I haven't played it
abstract mist
From the reviews idk
modern jolt
This one I remembered as
ぬ I grab a NOOdle with a curved chopstick
め Oh no it f...
Ohh this is good, thanks
cursive dock
Can I just download any random japanese VN and go ham? Or do I need to specifica...
beginner friendly ones, many VNs have huge long complicated monologues
abstract mist
This one I remembered as
ぬ I grab a NOOdle with a curved chopstick
め Oh no it f...
ぬええええええ
Is how I remembered the ぬ
cursive dock
which are impossibly slow to read for beginners
wise ember
Wouldve said われね but it works only in russian language unfortunately
cursive dock
i recommend learning kana, basic vocab and basic grammar before you read vns in jp
cursive dock
i dropped learning jp from VNs cuz i wanted to learn more vocab first
haven't done so yet
wise ember
<:kmm_menheraokay:1009423510164213791>
I recommend at least N4 before VN/anime
Or it could be very demotivating
modern jolt
I like this one too, it's literally just an n with a longer top thingy h
abstract mist
it's a
һ in kazakh
cursive dock
I like this one too, it's literally just an n with a longer top thingy h
the one kana that doesn't have a vowel sound
abstract mist
сахарехас зе рок
wise ember
@abstract mist I've remembered す as "Блять ебаный Т9 СУка"
(visually split horizontally to understand)
modern jolt
@cursive dock Do you have any special settings for the quizzes?
cursive dock
<@983026484614660137> I've remembered す as "Блять ебаный Т9 СУка"
(visually spli...
i remembered す cuz i kept writing すし for fun and it stuck
abstract mist
<@983026484614660137> I've remembered す as "Блять ебаный Т9 СУка"
(visually spli...
lollll
I remember it as
I don't I kinda just do
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> Do you have any special settings for the quizzes?
not really but here's what i used
quizzes aren't as effective imo
so i haven't done them
only did writing challenges
abstract mist
I learned hiragana by just guessing what's written and never learned katakana
cursive dock
quizzes aren't as effective imo
looking at a kana doesn't burn it into your brain just as much as recalling and then physically drawing the character with your finger
also drawing the character lets you remember stroke order, which is important for handwriting and helps with reading handwritten text
abstract mist
handwriting 😭
never wrote a single word with my hand in the past 5 yeras
cursive dock
i think stroke order is important and it gets pretty intuitive to learn so i did it cuz it's fun 
wise ember
@modern jolt most of the sounds are pronounces almost as english counterparts (I know theres a difference but even natives don't give a fuck), the only sounds to pay attention to are: らりるれろ、しちじ、ず、づ、ふ、を、っ(a small one)
frail leafBOT
@wise ember, you've reached level 8! ☄️
abstract mist
i think stroke order is important and it gets pretty intuitive to learn so i did...
ez player moment
wise ember
<@590877129529622528> most of the sounds are pronounces almost as english counte...
Oh and a long う (e.g. きょう)
I think the long う is the most difficult to get used to (its okay while its alone but when its inside of a long word it gets you in trouble)
As it always sounds unnatural
modern jolt
Oh and a long う (e.g. きょう)
I shall try to remember
wise ember
ichigo gyuunyuu! <@983026484614660137>
ミルク
wise ember
Lol frfr
abstract mist
ichigo gyuunyuu! <@983026484614660137>
yeah
my osu username is different because I'm nue and because the correct spelling was taken
wise ember
レストラン moment
cursive dock
learning japanese is just learning english for the 2nd time 😭
or just jamming multiple english words into a blender
mutilating them in the process
wise ember
or just jamming multiple english words into a blender
Oh yesterday got a word for a 'virus'
Poor word its so messed up in japanese
Feel so sorry for it
cursive dock
ウイルス
that might actually not be english, cuz it just sounds like it came from latin (languages)
wise ember
Could be
cursive dock
in spanish, "virus" is pronounced "vee-roos" (short oo)
and i imagine it's the same in latin
wise ember
in spanish, "virus" is pronounced "vee-roos" (short oo)
So exactly like in russian
cursive dock
likely, idk russian
wise ember
<:kmm_o:1051987363544436797> likely, idk russian
skill issue
cursive dock
but especially videogame names get chopped up like crazy
wise ember
skill issue
Start learning now and you get 5% off
cursive dock
モンハン (monhan) = monster hunter
マイクラ (maikura) = minecraft
wise ember
スタゲ - guess what is this? Got this from a native
modern jolt
I'm cooked chat
abstract mist
<:kmm_o:1051987363544436797> likely, idk russian
you should learn russian
and then watch "alya sometimes hides her feelings in russian" with us
cursive dock
I'm cooked chat
did you just test yourself on all of hiragana after just an overview 💀
46% is impressive for not having studied barely at all
wise ember
I'm cooked chat
ひ looks like a smile youre welcome
modern jolt
46% is impressive for not having studied barely at all
I low-key guessed some of them tbh
modern jolt
ひ looks like a smile <:kmm_nihahahaha:1224150517710589982> youre welcome
Oh that's good, like someone smiling while saying hi
wise ember
you should learn russian
and then watch "alya sometimes hides her feelings in ru...
milyashka
modern jolt
did you just test yourself on all of hiragana after just an overview 💀
Indeed I did
cursive dock
ひ looks like a smile <:kmm_nihahahaha:1224150517710589982> youre welcome
ひ is the body of a person saying "hi"
abstract mist
poteto
read vns/lns that have anime spinoffs if you liked them
wise ember
Oh fuck it's almost 5am
Its so over for you lol
modern jolt
Fuck it, 5 hours of sleep time, wake up at 10, sort some shi out, study more, do grocery shopping, make dinner, then study more
Less go
modern jolt
poteto
read vns/lns that have anime spinoffs if you liked them
The only ones I know of is fate and possibly steins gate
I don't remember if steins gate had one or not
But I feel like they did
abstract mist
I don't remember if steins gate had one or not
steins gate is a vn
fate is an eroge
modern jolt
I prefer the sexy vns tho
wise ember
The only ones I know of is fate and possibly steins gate
Steins it N3+ vocab with lots of slang, don't do it lol
modern jolt
fate is an eroge
Fate should've been a fire hentai series smh
abstract mist
Fate should've been a fire hentai series smh
If fate were a hentai series we wouldn't have as much anime of it made
ufotable would ignore it
hentai is super low budget usually because you can't sell a lot of merchandise and stuff
abstract mist
いえ、まだまだ行ける
modern jolt
i recommend Writing Challenges with these settings but do whatever you feel like...
Do you have the pro version or smth? I don't have as many settings
cursive dock
Do you have the pro version or smth? I don't have as many settings
choose writing challenges instead of quizzes
modern jolt
Nvm I had to switch to autodetect
dusky carbon
IT IS?
im slowly going into existential dread
i wrote も wrongly for 5 years
wtf
modern jolt
modern jolt
IT IS?
Apparently so, and don't worry you're not alone
I love how I can absolutely crucify these character and this app is just like "Eh, close enough"
Sometimes what I've drawn will practically be a scribble
dusky carbon
Apparently so, and don't worry you're not alone <:kmm_mikuxd:1014556524716249098...
i also found out recently that japanese writes really differently from chinese despite them having similar characters
i think my brain just went on autopilot and applied the chinese writing style to japanese
modern jolt
i also found out recently that japanese writes really differently from chinese d...
I think some of, if not alot of the Japanese character were taken from Chinese tbh
Atleast I remember hearing that
modern jolt
@cursive dock Any Japanese podcast or video recommendations that I can listen to in the background of doing stuff?
modern jolt
Chat I'm cooked
dusky carbon
I think some of, if not alot of the Japanese character were taken from Chinese t...
sometimes the meanings differ a little
but its similar enough to sorta get the gist of it
chinese helped me understand kanji and kanji helped flx understand chinese
works both ways
abstract mist
sometimes the meanings differ a little
I'm just gonna learn Chinese to make Japanese easier then
Chinese must be sooo easy in comparison
dusky carbon
just learn kanji then
dont learn chinese for japanese
learn japanese for japanese
abstract mist
modern jolt
@cursive dock This took me embarrassingly long to figure out
I think I can confidently say I know atleast 20 kana now
Type shi
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> This took me embarrassingly long to figure out
wtf i didn't know that
wise ember
Why is the hook before the lines on this one
Because of the origin https://jisho.org/search/毛 %23kanji
That tail-like thingy persists in like every single chinese radical, originated from the form of the writing brush (just like the straight form of greek letters is originated from their writing tools)
The easiest to see in こ as thats how they became lazier by time
Bro be like: 'ehhh, fuck it'
modern jolt
Bro be like: 'ehhh, fuck it'
"i ain't doin allat" lmfao
cursive dock
Bro be like: 'ehhh, fuck it'
💀💀💀
dusky carbon
Because of the origin https://jisho.org/search/%E6%AF%9B%20%23kanji
still dont really get why the long stroke goes before the horizontal lines in も
feels so unnatural to do
modern jolt
feels so unnatural to do
Personally if I'm writing on paper or by hand I'd just do it the wrong way anyways lol
Every other character is drawn that way, my brain cannot be bothered
But the app forces me to do it the right way
I'm getting there
dusky carbon
But the app forces me to do it the right way
yeah that explains why i wrote it wrongly for 5 years, its because i did it on paper and just didnt give enough of a shit 💀
modern jolt
I hate ぞ and そ so much
modern jolt
What in the actual fuck is this
abstract mist
this one is outdated
modern jolt
る
abstract mist
no one uses it today
modern jolt
Is it this one?
abstract mist
do you know touhou
dusky carbon
What in the actual fuck is this
why does your app even have this lmao
abstract mist
Is it this one?
no it isn't
modern jolt
abstract mist
people haven't used this in decades
modern jolt
Tbf they're kinda blanked out
modern jolt
do you know touhou
The game bad apple is from?
abstract mist
The game bad apple is from?
yeah
there's a character there called
Inaba Tewi
The wi is the wi character from above
no one uses that either
modern jolt
Oh I see
So they're the not important to learn but might be useful in extremely niche cases characters
abstract mist
So they're the not important to learn but might be useful in extremely niche cas...
Could be used in anime character names but that's it
If people want to type wi they'll probably say うぃ
With a small い
modern jolt
What does small i mean?
abstract mist
What does small i mean?
It's similar to small やゆよ
modern jolt
It's similar to small やゆよ
I don't know what the small ones of those mean either
cursive dock
still dont really get why the long stroke goes before the horizontal lines in も ...
long stroke ends upwards, which doesn't flow well to the next character
idk i'm making shit up
but maybe that's one of the reasons
abstract mist
Three Toyota Hilux will survive this
cursive dock
abstract mist
このTOYOTAヒルックスはいきのこります
dusky carbon
long stroke ends upwards, which doesn't flow well to the next character
IT ENDS UPWARDS? THE REALITY I JUST ACCEPTED IS NOW CRUMBLING APART ONCE MORE
wait
nevermind im just confused
dusky carbon
oh wait nevermind you mean that little curve up at the end
god for a moment i thought you meant it started at the little curve and ended with the longer line
cursive dock
god for a moment i thought you meant it started at the little curve and ended wi...
o
mb
桃色
dusky carbon
its okay
cursive dock
momoiro
dusky carbon
ive written a lot of characters that end with that し thingy at the end and it flows just fine idk
probably cus im like very use to writting in general
dusky carbon
the strokes ending with the horizontal lines is weirder to me than the long stroke
abstract mist
Is this common in writing?
Very much so
For example, if you say "Saki-chan", it's 先ちゃん
Idk this kanji I'm just assuming that's correct one for the name
Or, do you remember Comet-chan? That's Suisei's April fools stream. Well she said "kyururun" all the time, which is spelled きゅるるん
cursive dock
Is this common in writing?
it's pretty common for し (shi) and ち (chi) to change their vowel sounds , also very common for loan words and foreign names and stuff
abstract mist
こんにちゃ lux
cursive dock
for example a "ti" kana doesn't exist in japanese, since "chi" is used, so for loan words that use it, you have to modify "te" with a small "i"
abstract mist
Japanese standardizing the V sound is the worst thing that they could've done
abstract mist
<:kmm_whotowel:1194363057120481360> Big steps, I can read this without translati...
Btw that's not how it's properly spelled, I just want to sound cute
It's baby talk
abstract mist
<:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126>
It こんにちは
は is wa when you want it to be the topic marker
cursive dock
hyoudai when he realizes that konnichiwa is spelled "konnichiha"
modern jolt
は is wa when you want it to be the topic marker
modern jolt
hyoudai when he realizes that konnichiwa is spelled "konnichiha"
My ass was so confused
abstract mist
わたしは…です
modern jolt
Why they gotta make it so complicated
abstract mist
Why they gotta make it so complicated <:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126>
It's a lot simpler than English spelling, and especially simpler than the Australian accent
cursive dock
は is wa when you want it to be the topic marker
は the topic particle is pronounced "wa"
modern jolt
Watashi ha too?
cursive dock
no
modern jolt
My life is a lie bro
cursive dock
watashi is written as it sounds
abstract mist
Watashi ha too? <:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126>
It's written watashi ha but pronounced watashi wa
cursive dock
all of japanese is written as it sounds
except for some grammar particles
like は (ha, topic particle, pronounced wa) and を (wo, object particle, pronounced o)
abstract mist
Also depends on the dialect
In some dialects, が is "na" with a nasal n, like in "going"
Sorry for the information overload
@modern jolt
modern jolt
Also depends on the dialect
In some dialects, が is "na" with a nasal n, like in ...
Confusing
abstract mist
You don't need to think about it too much, just don't be surprised if you see it in anime
modern jolt
I'm sure I'll get the hang of it once I have the basics down though
cursive dock
for sure
abstract mist
It's not in standard Japanese, and standard Japanese is best Japanese because it doesn't sound weird to anyone
So pronounce it ga
cursive dock
things get a lot easier to learn once you memorize kana
abstract mist
I still don't know hiragana
cursive dock
I still don't know hiragana
cursive dock
get the app that hyoudai is using
you learn it within days guaranteed
together with stroke order
dusky carbon
abstract mist
It's too late
I'm already reading a book
1 page a day because idk kanji
cursive dock
for katakana, the sooner the better
cuz you won't get much exposure to katakana
it's hard to retain when you first start learning it
dusky carbon
cuz you won't get much exposure to katakana
i read labels of random things and that has singlehandedly kept my katakana intact
cursive dock
dusky carbon
the amount of english words they use is insane
im just reading english in a different alphabet frfr
dusky carbon
dusky carbon
abstract mist
cake -> keeki
Well there's often native words that could be used instead
Like dōa (door) is tobira
cursive dock
tru but everyone uses ドア
cursive dock
modern jolt
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Tthkz8hYCKw
They keep laughing at Japanese smh
Bullies
https://youtu.be/uOJVWVONTw8 @dusky carbon The start of the video lol
dusky carbon
https://youtu.be/uOJVWVONTw8 <@702802839965270047> The start of the video lol
sobbing crying throwing up
dusky carbon
this shit got me looking for my old hiragana book
so this is what being reality checked feels like
its safe to say i just ignored whatever the correct way to write it was
at least it ended with me having legible handwriting so thats a W
wise ember
still dont really get why the long stroke goes before the horizontal lines in も ...
Because top strokes have a priority over left strokes, originated in china
but still there are exceptions lol (see https://youtu.be/TD7Lc4QBh5w?si=Kox58PWJ08wlKWVN)
wise ember
<:kmm_whotowel:1194363057120481360>
Chad
wise ember
What in the actual fuck is this
Only used in old names nowadays, skip it
dusky carbon
Because top strokes have a priority over left strokes, originated in china
**but...
oh my fucking god now im going to get reality checked for a 2nd time in another language 
my entire life is a lie
cursive dock
Because top strokes have a priority over left strokes, originated in china
**but...
who doesn't love learning a rule that has a million exceptions
dusky carbon
oh my fucking god now im going to get reality checked for a 2nd time in another ...
i have been reality checked in another language.
1 day
reality checks in both japanese and chinese
my entire life is a lie
wise ember
Watashi ha too? <:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126>
Good thing thats the only exception of that type in a language
Wait, theres more
へ particle is e
を is o
Thats all iirc
dusky carbon
wise ember
Also depends on the dialect
In some dialects, が is "na" with a nasal n, like in ...
Even got this na sound in a textbook one day, sounds so messed up
Iirc thats the original tokyo dialect
wise ember
https://youtu.be/uOJVWVONTw8 <@702802839965270047> The start of the video lol
Good thing they actually don't care, its easy to guess a kana from the context in the sentence even its written messed up (drunk monkey got a pen in their feet)
wise ember
who doesn't love learning a rule that has a million exceptions
Russians
Pronunciation and intonation are so inconsistent icant
Japanese is hella consistent in comparison
Compared with english also kinda consistent
wise ember
english is hella inconsistent
ghoti
cursive dock
lmao
okay tbf
english has enough consistency where it would be reasonable to assume that "ghoti" is pronounced "gow-tee" and not fish
wise ember
english has _enough_ consistency where it would be reasonable to assume that "gh...
Nooo its "gho:-ti+glotal stop"
dusky carbon
full mauve
https://youtu.be/7fvCb5_Nzq4?si=DyBQEZJyozgvDXX4 This video seems pretty legit t...
Yes and no
I think I even wrote a comment on that vid lmao
abstract mist
Hi flx
I'm a large fan
abstract mist
I'm doing well
Not learning Japanese at all though
At least my mental well being has improved
I'm watching like 5 animes this season though so that's an improvement
I'm hard on the grind yeeeeeahhh
abstract mist
hi my favourite kazakh
I feel like I asked this question before but where do you get web/light novel epubs in Japanese?
Ok I dm
To get the link
full mauve
At least my mental well being has improved
pogg
Also moeway
Just pass student rank and go to #booksharing channel
Japanese is hella consistent in comparison to other languages id also agree
Im getting kinda decent in Korean now and I sometimes still cant guess how stuff is pronounced or spelled
full mauve
https://learnjapanese.moe/guide/ also this
hearty socket
wise ember
は and ほ are painfully similar <:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126>
Thats a Santa with a walking stick and a hat (ほ). He goes like "ho-ho-ho" (default cartoon voice), but then he loses the hat (は), but he's kinda optimistic so he's not sad and goes like "hahaha"
(thats how I learned it lol)
cursive dock
lmao that's a funny one
full mauve
How tf do I pronounce dji and dzu?
ぢ じ
づ ず
鼻血 はなじ はなぢ
You can spell it both ways in hiragana
Cuz all ぢ sounds are being replaced with じ through time
Same for dzu zu
wise ember
Havent encountered ぢ at all in a wild (only katakana)
づ ず both used
e.g. both
必ず 「かならず」
and
続ける 「つづける」
are very commonly used words
And if you try to type 「つずける」on a windows IME keyboard you won't get 続ける so ず (typed as "ZU") and づ (typed as "DU") are 2 distinct sounds
@full mauve correct me in case you have different facts on your side
Lol ぢ is typed as "DI" I didn't even know
So yeah, its literally the first time I'm typing ぢ
abstract mist
e.g. both
必ず 「かならず」
and
続ける 「つづける」
are very commonly used words
And if you try ...
必 is 心 but slashed
Such a heartbreaking moment
full mauve
e.g. both
必ず 「かならず」
and
続ける 「つづける」
are very commonly used words
And if you try ...
No theyre the same sound
Just a spelling difference
Same for ぢ as i said
wise ember
Such a heartbreaking moment
💀
wise ember
No theyre the same sound
I mean yeah, pronouncuation-wise its the same, agree
full mauve
Only ぢ sounds i can think of rn are like 間近 身近 lol
And even they can be written with じ nowadays i think
Also
wise ember
Also
Hmm, interesting
Windows sucks (as always)
Thats totally 'tzar'
In comparison
pressing space doesnt help either, proof:
wise ember
Only ぢ sounds i can think of rn are like 間近 身近 lol
まじか also doesnt get converted to 間近 bruh
full mauve
Ye windows sucks
I know of a lot of kanji that dont appear even if u write them correctly
Lol
or theres some hidden dlc i havent found yet no idea
wise ember
Only ぢ sounds i can think of rn are like 間近 身近 lol
Oh so its because 近 is ちかい so grammatically ぢか is a correct one
Gotcha
wise ember
or theres some hidden dlc i havent found yet no idea
Japanese 2 (with extra 3000 kanji and 25 kanas)
full mauve
Oh so its because 近 is ちかい so grammatically ぢか is a correct one
yea
My dic lists majika as irregular kanji usage tho so it should still be acceptable
dusky carbon
What's the next step after learning all the kana?
ぶんぽう (grammar) (hell) (i struggled)
then learn kanji as you go along reading stuff, it comes over time
modern jolt
Even just english grammar is a pain in the ass but I shall power through once I get to there
I'm at around 50 kana
dusky carbon
almost there then
cursive dock
<:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126> Even just english grammar is a pain in the ass bu...
japanese grammar is very logical it's one of my fav parts of the language
cursive dock
(how many kana are there)
46 kana, not including dakuten
so 92 total if you include hira and kata
quite a few more characters compared to the english alphabet sitting at 26 letters
dusky carbon
modern jolt
@cursive dock Do I have to go out of my way to learn all the kana combinations too? Like the combinations with the mini kana
cursive dock
<@729675536380592199> Do I have to go out of my way to learn all the kana combin...
they're very simple and they show up a lot anyway, you can take a quick look after learning kana
it's only a handful of combinations, no need to memorize imo
full mauve
ye grammar and maybe low level immersion already
tadoku level 0 stuff
the earlier u start immersing the better
i think i started my first vn after learning like all the kana and doing basic grammar for two weeks
abstract mist
I startes from immersing before kana, can confirm it's a slow improvement
wise ember
What's the next step after learning all the kana?
Unpopular opinion but I think immersion is overrated on an early level of learning. N+1 reading/listening (when you leaning the usage of a new stuff in relevant context already known to you) is much more effective before you can actually immersing (which at least requires stable N4-N3-ish level of knowledge)
I mean, immersion is difficult and requires for to know how to immerse (its not just watching content). Counting that you asking "what to do after learning kana" - immersion isn't for you
I'd recommend using an actual textbook, but not for actual learning using a textbook (cuz most of them is a bullshit for passing a JLPT exam) but for looking whats the order of learning stuff. Just read/listen a content relevant to that level of grammar relevant to your level of knowlegde, it should be comfortable to learn, not overwhelming, so don't take too difficult stuff as while kinda working its hella ineffective as you can't handle that much stuff in your head at the same stuff. Always google a video explanation of the difficult stuff you encounter, as for all the beginners confusing stuff (e.g. difference between particles は and が which is explained like shit in every single textbook) there are always lots of good videos explained by japanese natives themselves
inb4 theres a popular misunderstanding, they are saying textbooks teach you a 'wrong' japanese which is different from an actual one which is kinda wrong (besides parts where they teach overpolite ways of speaking which is for real useless but e.g. for me is was interesting to get to know that stuff despite not using it in a conversation). You can't learn conversational casual japanese from the start anyway (you will sound cringe if you do). Convesational japanese is based on a formal one so knowing how language works helping to sound more natural over time (and from my practice of talking to natives they are much more friendly towards you if you're not trying to use a casual way of speaking at all from the start as at this level your language knowledge isn't enough to be understood while speaking quick and casual way (as you're always using wrong word in a wrong context, thats how it is) but just enough to handle the conversation using simple and stable grammar/vocabulary which allows you to talk to people which directly leads you to language immersion, getting japanese friends, getting advices or correction on your mistakes yada yada yada)
Oh wow that turned out to be longer than I expected, I'm sorry. I mean thats a honest opinion from the experience of 200+ days of learning so hope it'll help someone~
Oh p.s. don't lookup, don't learn grammar by tables, spreadsheets, cheatsheets, whatever they called, it feels right in the beginning but slows down the process of understanding how language works in a natural way
hearty socket
Holy wall of text
dusky carbon
Holy wall of text
the last part do be very important tho cus that's how i learned grammar and it did NOT help whatsoever with being able to form a sentence without going through the table in my head first 💀 i really just needed to score for the exam at that point and didnt really learn the language, i just learned how to score
modern jolt
Unpopular opinion but I think immersion is overrated on an early level of learni...
Have you got a recommendation for a text book for the order of learning stuff?
full mauve
honestly i completely disagree LOL
Japanese is my 2nd language ive learned through immersion and am doing the same with Korean atm and for all 3 languages i spent maybe a few weeks but not more than a month of learning the basics
You can also learn casual japanese first - ull learn keigo later its not that important anyways in the beginning
Anything thats "real" Japanese (made from Japanese people for Japanese people) is good to study, textbooks are not real Japanese often times and the order they teach stuff in doesnt matter at all imo
Also natives will not hate you if you slip out of keigo - Japanese are very kind and know how tough it is to speak a foreign language and will appreciate you for even trying to speak Japanese
Ive been in Japan and talk to natives in Germany frequently and ive never had anybody been not nice to me cause I used タメ口 on accident - even older people (I mean like 60yos)
Youll naturally learn stuff in the right "order" since the most important stuff appears most frequently when you immerse
Ive also had better experiences with foreigners explaining grammar than natives like https://youtube.com/@organicjapanesewithcuredol49 is insanely helpful
The only reason I would say immersion is bad at an too early stage is if you are not strong minded enough to power through the difficulty
If you manage to pull it off tho ull improve with lightning speed
Even reading children books can be immersion though so you can also adjust what you read / listen to based on your skills
hearty socket
Also natives will not hate you if you slip out of keigo - Japanese are very kind...
And very xenophobic
They're a double edged sword
hearty socket
And very xenophobic
maybe just not to Germany who knows
hearty socket
Same minds think alike, guter Mann
hearty socket
Even if you're a Brandenburger, you're not Austrian, so I accept you
full mauve
🥸🤓
modern jolt
They like white ppl in general
That's epic, I'm the most white looking mf you'll ever see Pale ass white skin, blue eyes and strawberry blonde hair
hearty socket
That's epic, I'm the most white looking mf you'll ever see <:kmm_mikuxd:10145565...
Is that because of all the cum you keep interacting with
full mauve
That's epic, I'm the most white looking mf you'll ever see <:kmm_mikuxd:10145565...
same bro 🤝
well ok i guess im more like dirty blonde and green blue eyes but still i look like the most white mf on this planet
i had 店長s gift me candys in japan even sht was crazy
i felt like a special being in a good sense 🤣
hearty socket
i felt like a special being in a good sense 🤣
Oh you're special alright
modern jolt
Bro why is me め and nu ぬ almost the same character
full mauve
wait until u see ツ シ ソ ン
modern jolt
Not to mention わ ねれ
hearty socket
wait until u see ツ シ ソ ン
Tsu Shi ? N
full mauve
i literally know over 2000 kanji but messed up ソ ン in a kana quiz yesterday
hearty socket
Something like that
full mauve
katakana is final boss
hearty socket
Yeah final boss
modern jolt
tsu shi n so
つしんそ ?
full mauve
its weird that i messed them up cuz in whole words i never have problems reading them just when its stand alone katakana im sometimes like wait am i tripping
hearty socket
n.
modern jolt
ん
hearty socket
Don't give up like I did
full mauve
jp font in korean discord looks so ass i cant
full mauve
f7
hearty socket
At the bottom
full mauve
🤮 comic sans ish
hearty socket
Yea I think so
full mauve
on mobile there is always one recommendation with full katakana
full mauve
Don't give up like I did
u can always restart 😳
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on mobile there is always one recommendation with full katakana
there's more mf katakana?
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i also quit korean for 4 years and here i am
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<:kmm_nooo:978940616656429126> there's more mf katakana?
there is like as much katakana as hiragana
u can write shi in either hiragana or katakana eg
し シ
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on mobile there is always one recommendation with full katakana
サグマバールソ
modern jolt
What does 二 mean?
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氏 or even kanji lol
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Ni
dusky carbon
Theyre racist especially towards PoC and other asians
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What does 二 mean?
2
ichi ni san lets go
zenryoku de mezasou itadaki
watashi tachi wa hitotsu no kagayaki
UNION
!!!
sorry
modern jolt
Thank fuck
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until 3
dusky carbon
4 is not 4 lines tho
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and then its random
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ye
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😭
modern jolt
God what is three
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3 lines
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三
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🤯
modern jolt
Thank fuck
modern jolt
四 is four tho
Ugly ahh character
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love how i switched to a random keyboard, typed san, got that
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Box
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"shi" or "yon"
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dont even know if that was my cn or jp
modern jolt
Atleast it has four sides ig
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3 is the same basiscally in CJK lol
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5
dusky carbon
Atleast it has four sides ig
5 strokes tho because why fucking not 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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japan only really uses chinese stolen numbers except until 10 u have hitotsu futatsu etc
modern jolt
四 is four tho
What is the stroke order on this monstrosity
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korean is a lot more complicated :(
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3 is the same basiscally in CJK lol
cn 🤝 jp 🤝 kr
3 = san
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What is the stroke order on this monstrosity
lol this is still like really low stroke count
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Top left down, top left right and then down
Middle left middle right
Bottom line
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jp 🤝 kr: stealing numbers from chinese
modern jolt
lol this is still like really low stroke count
I've heard there's some ridiculous ass character with 100 strokes or smth
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yea u dont use them tho
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jp 🤝 kr: stealing numbers from chinese
JP stole their entire alphabet
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^
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yea u dont use them tho
^ uh i meant to reply yeah this
modern jolt
JP stole their entire alphabet
Capitalism
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JP stole their entire alphabet
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there is like technically over 10 thousands of kanji but u really only need to understand like ~3k to know 99.999% of texts
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Borrowing forever is stealing
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hiragana and katakana are jp exclusive, chinese doesnt have that
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i mean they started with only kanji just like korean
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yup
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then they thought "ok china not cool and we need simpler alphabet so we reform"
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Hell yeah, fuck China