MAKE IT FIRST TO X KILLS INSTEAD OF ELIMINATION

[idle scaffold]

PLEASE

[ocean cloak]

PLEASE

[lilac siren]

PLEASE

[quartz tulip]

PLEASE

[paper shadow]

PLEASE

[distant snow]

PLEASE

[ancient surge]

LEASE

[fathom sundial]

E

PLEASE

[crimson wind]

PLEASE

[frank shard]

PLEASE

[lilac flume]

PLEASE

[hexed ember]

PLEASE

[nova dome]

PLEASE

[buoyant dock]

PLEASE

[hollow dune]

PLEASE

[jagged pelican]

PLEASE

[raw lodge]

PLEASE

[rancid salmon]

PLEASE

[novel folio]

PLEASE

[brazen bane]

[stoic vessel]

why? isnt that just mostly TDM?

[tranquil saddle]

PLEASE

[rancid salmon]

yes but with a win condition like ft 60 kills or first to x kills

[ocean cloak]

It’s a more enjoyable gameplay experience. Like 1v1 is just “who got the first shot on peak” so 1v1s rounds last 10 seconds. 2v2 elim is just gonna be fastest rollout to enemy spawn and kill them. Repeat for 5 rounds.

TDM will actually involve more understanding of the game and the maps. It’s way more fun running around maps getting kills and checking spawns compared to “woo lets run the fastest way to spawn and see who wins the 50/50”

reason why sandstorm and shipment are such good maps is bc you get your kill(s) off spawn then you move about the map. No dominant location, no rinse and repeat. Every life and spawn is different

[hexed iris]

This is not a good idea

[frank shard]

please

[quartz tulip]

Sandstorm has a huge camping issue but I get what you mean

[ocean cloak]

It gets boring doing the same routine everytime, coming from a guy who plays fucking parkour

[lilac siren]

goat...

[idle scaffold]

snd can very much be played like a 4v4 elimination already, ive played so many games in which the gem was never planted
1v1, although i dislike being elimination, it works fine as it is

however, if 2v2 was also elimination then it would be quite repetitive with the previous modes. also, having a tdm 2v2 will allow for more diverse maps to be played, and as such will come with more game sense + map knowledge being required. plus, the majority of this game is about rotates and positioning, as well as playing off your team from a comp sense. having 2v2 be elimination removes this entire section of the game's complexity, so it most definitely should be tdm

[hexed iris]

why do you think point failed

[distant snow]

All the npc 3 stacks had 0 aura and couldn’t beat sabe

[lilac siren]

it's also important to point out how search and destroy ranked was just so disconnected to the way competitive is played in kirka (pickups/tournaments). for example, you could be top 10 in search and destroy and it wouldn't matter cause you would still get obliterated by real goat skwhyez on m60. search and destroy takes little to no skill at all, top 10 players from search and destroy had and still have 0 credibility or relevance when it comes to comp. that's just how distant the ranked gamemode is from the competitive community. these people never get decent placements in tournaments, never perform better than the average nexus pugger who just w keys and shoots

[ancient surge]

im using chat gpt to make this shorter

[lilac siren]

just upvote and agree

i never miss

[distant snow]

Goat bloom is the weatie demon

[lilac siren]

[carmine mist]

Its ass

[hexed iris]

yeah but those are the people who keep ranked alive

[raw lodge]

Couldn't you say that with all the comp players who played 3v3 point though? I didn't see people like Biggie constantly play 3v3 point. Though he does play a ton of SND.

[hexed iris]

the snd players hes shitting on are the ones who keep ranked alive

if xip makes the new ranked 2v2 tdm its gonna have the same fate as 3v3 point

[distant snow]

bro snd shouldnt even be a competitive mode 😭

[raw lodge]

fair enough

In all honesty there's not really any of winning overall with ranked and that's just how it is

[tranquil lichen]

I will win

[rancid salmon]

Yeah

They should just make it a score farm game mode instead of ranked

[quartz tulip]

people only play it because its a score farm sim, not because it is "ranked"

[raw lodge]

You can get onto 1v1 and snd leaderboards without any comp knowledge. 3v3 point actually needed that knowledge (As I've gotten onto both of those lbs but got sat down in 3v3 lmao) I've never played in a comp setting besides one or two scrims

[distant snow]

bro i abused krunker undergrowth gamesense on ruins

😭

[shadow solstice]

some of the top 10 in ranked list might are low end pc/laptop players and also most comp takes place in NA and there are other regions except NA also like Asia and Europe and these top 10 people are a mix of all regions so even if they try out comp they can't do good there cause they don't play in NA region and it lags for them making it unfair for them so therefore they choose to just play the game instead of comp

idk its just my perspective as well

for a game to have a comp it must have equal amount of active players in all regions who play comp but for kirka thats not the case NA has low active players in game but still more NA people choose comp but asia has more active players in game but only a few choose comp

[oblique turret]

helllo

damn some crazy thing is going in here

[wicked otter]

@oblique turret 🎉 Congratulations! You just leveled up: 6 => 7.

[oblique turret]

true\

blue there is a fake one out there

[lilac siren]

that's a valid point and i see where you are going, the ping difference can be very bad for comp, but i managed to win 15 tournaments and all of them were outside my main region, i never won a single tournament under 150ms. as for the hardware it's also valid, but hardly an excuse to not performing. just take valorant for example, there are many people who first peaked radiant on a low end pc, playing with stuttering, package loss and 60hz. in a game like kirka where the skill gap is galaxies lower, the same should be applied. another good example is me and clean, we played an NA tournament final (we are both not NA) in trash setups, i was on a notebook and he was on his girlfriend's setup.

I YAPPED TO MUCH SO BASICALLY: i hear you, but i hardly disagree. if you care enough to know the reasons feel free to read the wall of text KEKW

[long eagle]

150ms is doable but 250 isnt

The servers are so bad I only get above 220-250 in every other server beside My own

[lilac siren]

trust me it is, i already won tournaments in EU on 220ms+, it might sound like i''m glazing myself which i always do, just not now, not i'm being serious and just trying to bring up some proof to back up what i'm saying

[long eagle]

There's more to consider though. Ping isn't the only latency

[lilac siren]

whithout thinking too much, i can remember winning the resunz 2v2 on EU september last year on 240ms+, i had an EU player as my duo

the other tournament was a 1v1 tournament, also EU on extremely high ping

[long eagle]

I see nice!!!

But I can't do that

Most cant

[lilac siren]

the point is, it's doable

[long eagle]

It's playable

[lilac siren]

if a random brazilian dude can do it 15 times why can't someone else do it once

[long eagle]

Not winnable or enjoyable

[long eagle]

U can't just say that lmao

Most don't have ur aim

Or ur setups

[lilac siren]

it's playable and winnable (if someone already won it's 100% winnable wym 😭), but i totally agree with the not enjoyable part

[long eagle]

Not for us bro

😭

We're too ass

[lilac siren]

having no reg or just being deleted by the opponent's scar just because they are on a lower ping can be frustrating and i've been there before, it just never stopped me and the other T1 tourney winners to win at least a single time you know what i mean?

[long eagle]

Ik wym

But get this

[shadow solstice]

there are fake fabins fake zg mario's and a lot of them just be carefull and don't trust a random person with my name

[long eagle]

We're not as good as u

[oblique turret]

ik ik

i know u gng we used to lobby me king and u

[distant snow]

im forced to play 200 ping 🥀

[lilac siren]

if you are asia/oce then that's perfectly understandable since there are no tournaments in asia and competing on 200ms+ is not enjoyable at all

[long eagle]

Yeah

And thing is

[oblique turret]

true

[shadow solstice]

yes

[long eagle]

Most of our setups are ass

We have additional latency that u don't have

[oblique turret]

i feel u

[lilac siren]

that's why it would be nice to get people outside the comp community to play a 2v2/3v3 point ranked gamemode, which is the way the game is played in tournaments and scrims

[long eagle]

I agree

[lilac siren]

most people in NA and EU just instantly dodged the moment they saw a tier 1 player in their lobby as if their elo was the most important thing ever

[distant snow]

https://tenor.com/view/sneaky-golem-clash-royale-clash-of-clans-deck-gif-15376946106704274290

[lilac siren]

and that's basically what ruined point 3v3 ranked

[lilac siren]

i feel violate.

d

[distant snow]

sneaky golem in the pocket

[lilac siren]

forgot to aura farm here too

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-solo-leveling-season-2-solo-leveling-arise-shadow-king-beast-mode-gif-6705214267826777189

[shadow solstice]

i have noticed that valorent and other big games doesn't make soo much ping lags and hitreg lags as kirka does so its managable in those big games cause they have a big engine as well but for kirka its not the same if u have a low end pc or mid end pc it also effects your hitreg for some reason idk

when u have a low end pc and 300 ms ping its just makes no sense to fight anymore

kirka ping spikes are wild for some reason

[shadow solstice]

see when u compare and big engine game with a small engine game its not compareble tbh

i think there is a difference in valorent and kirka

a big difference

in gameplay

[long eagle]

Very true

[shadow solstice]

until we have enough players in all regions equally to play comp so asia player can compete with a asia player

then it will be fair

[long eagle]

It's only in kirka where 300ms of lag makes me shoot nearly a second slowerr

[shadow solstice]

exactly

[long eagle]

And there are so many instances every game where even when I aim perfectly

They still kill me

I've lost fights while I was shooting them from the back

I never missed

They just turned back and killed me

This is not a skill issue

It's just a shit game

[shadow solstice]

its the latency and hitreg difference

also the ping

[long eagle]

Yes

[wicked otter]

@long eagle 🎉 Congratulations! You just leveled up: 27 => 28.

[shadow solstice]

their hits register faster than yours

thats the only way thats possible

[long eagle]

Yeah

[shadow solstice]

comp should we divided in regions like NA comp,asia comp etc so we can actually have a fair list of the top players from each region but for that to happen kirka need more active players from each region to work this out

[lilac siren]

that's not the point, what i meant was that if someone on a low end PC can get to the top of the world in a game where millions of people play (like valorant), then why can't someone win a tournament in a game with barely 400 players on high ping or in a bad pc?

[oblique turret]

like whom is valo

[lilac siren]

just take less who played for loud in 2022, he started with a bad pc and finished the year as a world champion

again, in a game where millions of people play

[oblique turret]

true

[lilac siren]

if someone can achieve that why can't the average search and destroy player win a tournament in a game like kirka

yk what i mean

[oblique turret]

but he did use a good pc with almost 0 ping in the championship

[shadow solstice]

if valorent is the game you are comparing to kirka then idk what to say cause kirka is not same as valorent the hitregs the game machanics and the ping reading ingame is different for a big engine game

[lilac siren]

you are right, but to get to that point he had to get top 10 in ranked on his bad pc, going up against other pros on much better setups

[oblique turret]

he might have upg his setup idk but ur righ

[lilac siren]

bro you can't be real

i'm not comparing gameplay

[shadow solstice]

kirka is not a global hit like valorent

[shadow solstice]

i get it

[lilac siren]

valorant is a tactical fps, kirka is a browser fps similar to games like cod where you rush, die and respawn over and over again

[shadow solstice]

but still if you see a person with a low end pc playing kirka will give up easily cause the comp is not that fair in this game as compared to valorent

kirka need more people and more active people

[long eagle]

Blue has a point because on high ping with shit setups

I do not have a chance

If I had like 1 ms

I'd play gladly

But I do enjoy 3ve point tho

[shadow solstice]

i myself have a potato pc but in asia i get 10-12 ms which gives me a smoother gameplay

[long eagle]

I say we bring it back ngl

Most fun I've had in kirka

[shadow solstice]

but when i have a potato pc and play on NA for comps (that mostly take place in NA) i have no chance with 300 ms

[shadow solstice]

idk if i am correct but doesn't cod and valorent have big engines and like millions of people play it so its obv that the game is soo optimized and good for all types of players whether it be lowend pc or high end pc (low end pc still might have some disadvatages) but not the way they have in kirka with a small engine

[oblique turret]

i think u are correct

[shadow solstice]

the gameplay that valorent will provide with a low end pc and medium high ping is way better than the gameplay provided by kirka with the same statistics

[oblique turret]

ik i have tried and lived it for 3 freaking years

[lilac siren]

yes but it's not about optimization, what i'm saying is that these games are MUCH HARDER than kirka, and there are still those who climb the ranked LB with trash pcs, they don't give excuses, they don't whine about having bad pcs, they just play the game

i can't see myself having fun in this scenario, but the fact that someone already did it it's undeniable

[jade fox]

PLEASE

[lilac siren]

that alone makes it possible, not just "playable", it's achievable, it's possible

[oblique turret]

see thats because in valo and cod they are a lot more TEAMWORK game than kirka

i think kirka is not even a team game

the devs have made it that if a stack is in vc they are cheating in a way

cause u can really just fly around

[lilac siren]

it is, in comp the game is played as a team, one stacks while the other tdms, if you don't get that to work properly you are losing

[oblique turret]

meanwhile in val and cod this is totaly opposite they have inbuild vc and they dont let u fly around after a die

[shadow solstice]

yeah the people try comp in valorent is because its a game worth it to try and give a shot is kirka worth it for comp? at least going pro in comp valo might give u a chance in esports or championships and a good future with a income , but does kirka give such things? NO thats why people with a low end pc and a game where comp only takes plays mostly in NA will not try cause its not region+they have a low end/mid end pc but if we talk about valo they have comps for all regions and also mixed regions

[oblique turret]

yeahh

[shadow solstice]

to fix this issue kirka should have intresting updates and timely updates which will keep the audience and also bring new players

but idk if thats happening tbh

...

[shadow solstice]

i agree

[lilac siren]

that won't change the fact that it's possible to win tournaments on high ping, that's what i'm trying to say

[oblique turret]

wait wait

[shadow solstice]

its possible to win tournaments in high ping in big engine games like valo and cod but not in kirka cause they are not the same engine and same level of ping reading and gameplay optimization

[oblique turret]

why are we fighting?

[lilac siren]

dude no one is fighting 😭

we are just talking

[oblique turret]

i mean like what was the thing again

[shadow solstice]

bro fight?

its a debate

normal talk

[oblique turret]

mb mb

[lilac siren]

if we don't talk we will never reach anywhere, all points of view are valid, no one is fighting

[shadow solstice]

no fight

[oblique turret]

i am sorrry

what is the debate again

i just spawned here casue fabin pinged in nexus

[lilac siren]

but people rather giving excuses and blaming their setups for their pitiful performances, like, i get it if you come up and say that you don't have fun when you compete on high ping and that's perfectly understandable and fine. but when you come and say that you can't win tourneys because your ping is too high or your pc is not good enough then idk what to tell you, that's just skill issue

[lilac siren]

goat

[shadow solstice]

its about how there is a difference in winning a tournament in a small engine game different that a big engine game

[lilac siren]

we are talking about the gamemode for the upcoming 2v2 ranked

[shadow solstice]

how is that a skill issue when the issue is ping and bad pc even if skill is top notch

if a pro kirka player who is used to playing high end pc comes and tries out a low end pc he won't be able to give the same gameplay cause of the latency,fps,ping difference

[lilac siren]

just take a look at this imaginary scenario

Player 1 plays on a bad pc and bad ping
Player 2 plays on a bad pc and bad ping

HOWEVER, player 1 managed to win a tournament under these conditions, but player 2 didn't. what is player 2 lacking?

[shadow solstice]

i agree many people do give excuses out there for having bad pc when they actually have bad aim but not the came for all

[lilac siren]

it's not that hard, it's just skill issue

[twin solar]

luck 😭

[oblique turret]

but sometimes they aint wrongm

[lilac siren]

luck is just what happens when hardwork meets opportunity

https://tenor.com/view/baldi-baldis-basics-mogged-mog-rizz-gif-11774215665411580343

[twin solar]

who actually wants it to be elimnation tho

[shadow solstice]

the player is lacking skill here but when its comp NA kirka player1 is low end pc and player 2 is high end pc

[oblique turret]

true

[lilac siren]

to win a tournament on a low end pc, you will eventually have to beat a player who plays on a good setup

[oblique turret]

take my case normally i used a low end win 7 upg to win 10 laptop to play val and i am pretty ass

i played 3 years and grinded to gold and my freaking id got perm banned

why

[shadow solstice]

yeah true but when the bad setup combines with bad ping cause a asian player plays in NA it just gets worse

[oblique turret]

cause i left too many matchess

[lilac siren]

and again, it is possible, but they rather blame their setups instead of actually trying and that's why most of them fail

[lilac siren]

agreed, worse but not impossible

[shadow solstice]

yeah true

not impossible

[lilac siren]

asia lacks a comp scene to take part in tournamenrs, that's why i wanted ranked to be played on point

[oblique turret]

and when i upg to a high end pc i legit just became pretty good istantly and got placed gold

[twin solar]

free kaysee

[lilac siren]

it probably won't happen again because of the flop and how people just dodge when they find someone better

that's why i'm asking for tdm with the boys

[oblique turret]

hm

i got -700k

[lilac siren]

it's the closest to the way kirka competitive is played

[oblique turret]

but becuase my ping randomly spikes so high my game disconnectls

[shadow solstice]

i agree but the problem with kirka is it doesn't have equal active players in all regions who plays comp

[twin solar]

wait so you want it to be x kills? (2v2)

[shadow solstice]

yeah its a good idea

rather than elimination

[oblique turret]

elimination sucks

[twin solar]

i don't see how anyone would want elimination

[shadow solstice]

true

[twin solar]

x kills is like th eonly way its competitive

[shadow solstice]

i agree asia lacks comp but also if kirka need to become a successful comp first of all it need to update regularly with no delays cause if not then people just get bored and quit

[oblique turret]

do the devs earn anything from kirka

@shadow solstice

do u remmber king?

[shadow solstice]

yeah

[oblique turret]

u remember JAAT?

[shadow solstice]

yes i do

[oblique turret]

oh damn u remember me

thats crazy

[carmine mist]

I think player 1 is lacking a life lol

[oblique turret]

hm poosible

possible*

[rancid salmon]

havent seen an asian tourney

timings for me is 3 am or 4 am

but i also disagree with blue777

[shadow solstice]

what part do u disagree with

[oblique turret]

@haughty kettle is writing for 6 mins straight

[shadow solstice]

lmao

[rancid salmon]

you can do decent-good on high ping

i wouldnt say you could beat t1s with it

[shadow solstice]

with a good pc yes

[rancid salmon]

but ht2s is possible

look at delta he asia and ps he won a na tourney back in the day

[distant snow]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-i-don't-care-hand-face-gif-6233163205990621395

[shadow solstice]

good pc+ high ping its possible but bad pc +high ping i don't think so

[distant snow]

Delta is delta

[rancid salmon]

bad pc means? as long as you got 60hz = 60 fps u chill

[distant snow]

Imagine it was someone like ghostmafia

[shadow solstice]

cause mostof the comp takes plays in NA in kirka

[rancid salmon]

welp most of these players lack gamesense and aim

[shadow solstice]

so bad pc player who play asia have no chance in NA

[rancid salmon]

i am gold peek and in asia i feel like in snd i dominate way too much unless some t1 goes against me

[distant snow]

It was so easy to troll people on ruins

Cause of krunker gamesense

[shadow solstice]

most comps happen in NA tho

isn't it

[rancid salmon]

yeah tourney happen in na

pugs are diff matter

[shadow solstice]

not really i have 60 fps but no gpu

gpu plays a role too

[rancid salmon]

it does ig if you going against someone with a gpu

but i feel like players lack aim a lot and gamesense still...

[shadow solstice]

if a bad pc player with no gpu/integrated gpu also asian player fights with a high end pc player with high ping still the high end pc players wins

[rancid salmon]

true

[lilac siren]

goat kaysee never misses

[oblique turret]

true fr

[shadow solstice]

yeah most of them do but i am talking about the people who actually are good but can't grow their aim cause of bad pc and also all comps in NA region mostly

[rancid salmon]

ok you can grow your aim on bad pc my friend peeked asc on 60 hz pc with i5 cpu

about the comps in NA

that makes sense

[oblique turret]

its not abt valornat

[rancid salmon]

i cant beat night or fabin or any t1 on na in a 1v1 unless i am like radiant or immortal

[oblique turret]

wait

hold up

[shadow solstice]

u can grow aim if you really try hard but whats the point all the tourney takes play mostly NA a asian player still stand no chance at least most of them

[oblique turret]

wdym radian immortal

[rancid salmon]

and if i was then same goes for them in asia

[rancid salmon]

yeah i agree with the tourney part but none of them is there fault

asian players have low end pc resulting in low participation meaning no asian tournaments

[haughty kettle]

I still dont see why people have voted 2v2 elim (or tdm) over point when point has more room to express skill. Unfortunately i missed the last 3v3 point ranked season but from what I've heard, people are mostly complaining about tier 1s stacking to create unfair teams but using a different gamemode for ranked wont change this? I'm sure I'll see sabe + fabin or any other tier 1 duo in 2v2 tdm and people will complain again. The only reason it doesnt happen as much in snd is because snd both reflects skill very poorly and often has very boring matches.

[rancid salmon]

and most viet and indonesian players have 150 ms in asia me myself got 110ms peeking to 300

[shadow solstice]

its not their fault at all

[shadow solstice]

yeah cause asian players don't have a comp team and many asian don't really intrest for comp

[rancid salmon]

nuh uh asian do have a comp scene but its small

rn maybe even dead

[shadow solstice]

yeah small

more like negligible

[oblique turret]

found a frucking hacekr

[rancid salmon]

you want snd to still be in the ranked right

[shadow solstice]

meh i don't really want to be ranked but still can be just there for playing normally

2v2 or 3v3 seems more fun

[rancid salmon]

oh so what are we discussing this for

[jagged pelican]

?

[oblique turret]

guys i recordedhim

wht should i do

[jagged pelican]

#report-user

[shadow solstice]

we are discussing about a question" whats difference between a low end pc player and high end pc player and how the high end pc player have an advantage in comp games and most kirka comp is NA

[lilac siren]

yea that's pretty much what happened, i stopped playing because people would just dodge the moment they saw me, and that worked for pretty much any half decent player, you didn't even have to be a tier 1 or a tourney winner

[rancid salmon]

well duh yeah thats true

now if it is a high skill player on low end pc

the result might not be the same

[shadow solstice]

but NA

[rancid salmon]

yea

[lilac siren]

that made the game boring so i stopped playing. it used to take me 30 minutes just to get in a game where others didn't dodge

[shadow solstice]

u have to consider the fact that kirka comp is mostly NA

[rancid salmon]

yeah i know it bru i played pugs in na so much

[crimson wind]

Aiming will take a hit from 60 fps, its really unresponsive compared to 100 fps

Especially the tracking, flicking is kind of fine

[rancid salmon]

Can you elaborate that please 😥

[shadow solstice]

there aren't many goats like u in the game which u can compete with at that time and doesn't really need to be necessary that all of the goats like u are online but if kirka was popular game many skilled players would have joined the game and u could have got a competitive gameplay rather than just killing noobs in point 3v3 and them doging u all the time cause you are better

[oblique turret]

this game is cooked

[shadow solstice]

i wish kirka was a little more popular

and more players played it

[lilac siren]

yea i agree, when i came back to kirka 2 years ago i was a nobody in the community and had to go through pretty much all that, i only managed to win tourneys because i didn't put the blame on my setup or ping, i actually just wanted to play cause i thought the game was fun, even on a high ping

if there's no fun there's no will to improve and compete

[shadow solstice]

for kirka to have a ranked match making it need to have more player base

[oblique turret]

same

bro wht is happening suddenly my ping is spiking so high

[lilac siren]

which is understanable for asia players who are forced to play on 250+ ping in every tourney

[distant snow]

Ik 🗣️

[shadow solstice]

no fun is because no frequent updates and i would say no timely updates

[oblique turret]

like when i hit people they see me they hear me but they dont get damaged and when they turn and shoot me i die instlanlt y

tf

[distant snow]

Bro if Asian servers weren’t located in India I wouldn’t care

[oblique turret]

wdym gng

[distant snow]

Krunker Singapore servers give me 50 ping max

🥀

[lilac siren]

i don't think i'll ever participate in an EU tournament again for this same reason, it just became a torture, i can't enjoy it the way i did before

[lilac siren]

indian bloom confirmed

[distant snow]

Bro

Because it’s in India my ping is high

[shadow solstice]

are asian servers located in india?

[rancid salmon]

About the tourneys btw

[distant snow]

Yes

[shadow solstice]

i didn't know that

[distant snow]

Xip said he changed it from Mumbai to New Delhi once

[rancid salmon]

One of the reason no asian tournament is hosted is cuz less players + you'll have to pay from your own pocket as a host

[distant snow]

Or the other way around

[oblique turret]

where ru from

[oblique turret]

much better

[rancid salmon]

I don't think xip funds tourneys

[distant snow]

My mother

[oblique turret]

breh

Where do u live*

[distant snow]

On earth

[shadow solstice]

Singapore is a little closer to australia than india i suppose

thats why u get good ping in krunker asia

[distant snow]

Yep

Even Tokyo servers

I’d get low 100s

[shadow solstice]

makes sense

[oblique turret]

did that alt guy get banned?

[shadow solstice]

Oceana servers are too isolated tbh

all other regions servers are far away from it

[oblique turret]

anyone plays in there.

[shadow solstice]

very few people

kirka isn't soo popular in australia i suppose

[oblique turret]

https://youtu.be/i16f2ietMhA

give me a way to win over this

[buoyant dock]

Get skill

Lock in

[oblique turret]

bruh

practically man tell me

[buoyant dock]

Get good

Can't kill you if you kill them first ggs

[oblique turret]

bro its an instakill

[buoyant dock]

Nuh uh

There was time fr

Otherwise idk don't run out in the open waiting to get shot, even if they were playing normally probably could have gotten you

[oblique turret]

[wicked otter]

@oblique turret 🎉 Congratulations! You just leveled up: 7 => 8.

[buoyant dock]

@tranquil saddle would have won

[tranquil saddle]

won what

im lost

[unique moth]

There's no point in discussing this.
Netcode is bad,lag compensation is ridiculous.
In EU on 30 ping I die behind the wall from the player who is on 200 ping
It doesn't need to explain anything further.

Any kind of fair competition here is delusional

[long eagle]

Very true

Shit is ass

[unique moth]

Can't compare Browser game with Cod and say "kirka is a browser fps similar to games like cod where you rush, die and respawn over and over again" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyoRTNt2Sr8

[grand sigil]

Me on every average day this is why I love clash and hate point i can actually get kills in clash but point I have 3 second delay between when I shoot and when it actually does damage

[lilac siren]

i meant that kirka is more like cod than valorant and other tactical shooters. i think ranked should be anything but elimination, since elimination goes better with those tactical shooters, which is not kirka's case

[unique moth]

There is no room for TDM in ranked!

Game mode for ranked
S&D,Point /hardpoint/ and control
Since there is no Control here only Point and S&D can be ranked

But on the other hand this is simple Browser game and you can mix game modes,cos you can't take Kirka that serious for obvious reasons
As long as it's fun, you can run it.

[distant snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540606737904959499/1174454392901091438/Timeout.gif

[lilac siren]

agreed, search and destroy is interesting, but in kirka the gamemode is just never played, no one wants to plant the bomb, they just go after kills and when there's only one left it becomes a hide and seek simulator. i'm happy to see it gone, just hoped to get anything but elimination

[unique moth]

Point is best game mode for me ranked or no

[raw lodge]

just make the bomb grant score

People go after kills for score and because your elo you get is based on that

so if the bomb gave score/extra elo it wouldn't be that much of an issue

but it doesn't so people delay placing it in order to try to get more kills, but it ends up being hide and seek as you said

[buoyant dock]

Everything

[hexed iris]

All of this just to flex his 15 tournament wins

[buoyant dock]

😭

[hollow dune]

Yep but ppl will not play this because they will run into a "good" stack
Barely any "good" players are searching snd and thats why the majority want to have snd

I think tdm would also die because of this

[unique moth]

Yeah ik

[hollow dune]

[unique moth]

And again we come back to the point I made a year ago, the player base is just too small for any kind of ranked in Kirka

[hollow dune]

Yep

You have to switch regions to find a rank game

And then play against the same over and over again

[rancid salmon]

true

[unique moth]

This game needs good new maps, new guns /not skin/,new events more and recent updates.

But since Xip is doing this all by himself, it's very difficult.

[idle scaffold]

another reason for this to be tdm instead of elimination is to blend it more with comp since we cant host elimination

[idle scaffold]

maps should be ct sided with a balanced of not being extremely open but not having too many rat spots + lowering time in a round
and those rat spots should coincide with counterplay

snd is p much 4v4 elimination rn

[calm osprey]

shitty pc/laptops is pretty much the reason why most people resort to playing this game. even i came to this game since krunker could not tun on 60 fps overtime and even here i need to put my resolution to like 0.7 to play on 60 fps

[calm osprey]

cuz ur the goat ??? no one else can do bro 😭

[unique moth]

You didn't won because of your skills,you won because bad Netcode, more precisely lag compensation.
There is no scenario on this planet /I mean, obviously there is, but it has nothing to do with skill/ that you can win a good or even average player when you on 220 ping and he is on 30-50. This is not how internet works

[unique moth]

As far as I can tell, this was a simple children's browser game with a fun characters simple quests etc and not a competitive game with tournaments and shit. I know you guys would like to compete, but this isn't the game for that.There are simply no fair conditions for competitions to be held here. The sooner you realize this, the sooner Xip will stop Coding ranked modes and making up nonsense instead of dedicating himself to making the game as good as possible with fun new content like new maps new guns more and recent updates etc

[lilac siren]

the moment you introduce a leaderboard with points you are already giving the incentive for the competition to start, this game has clan wars, daily leaderboards and tournaments from time to time, not official, but they are still tournaments. people take part in those things to compete, if kirka had no competition then clan wars wouldn't even be a thing. it's a browser game, simple and that's why we all love it, but don't mistake simple for dry, you can play casually, speedrun parkour maps, take part in competitive play and still have fun in all ways. ranked became a thing and we are just talking about it, there is room for improvement and that's why xip keeps on making polls and asking for the community's feedback, you can't just say the game is not competitive when the competition is basically everywhere

[unique moth]

Those are two completely different things, participate in clan wars or be on the daily LB and Competition that we are talking about here!
You don't have to be very good player to be 1 on daily LB if you have time and will to play. I thought this didn't need to be explained
Clan wars, daily leaderboards are one thing and Ranked is something else so yeah.....

[distant snow]

Clan wars lowkey boring

The krunker clan wars were more fun

[lilac siren]

the point is that the game always had competition, and now xip officially introduced a ranked gamemode with elo. we are discussing the possibility of a new gamemode for the upcoming 2v2 ranked, those are all facts. now, if you truly believe you can't compete just because the game is unfair, that's skill issue and it's basically what we have been discussing for the past days. it is possible to compete on both low and high ping, sure, the experience can be bad for some people, but most have fun and that's why competitive is a thing

we wouldn't ask for comp if it was boring, we want to have fun just like you, however, if you have a better time shooting npcs in DM/Physics lobbies then that's on you, pubstompers have their way of having fun, comp players have theirs

and trust me there's room for both

[unique moth]

Bro you are just delusional or you don't understand how internet works

[distant snow]

I played 3v3 point on 200+ ping every game

🗣️

[lilac siren]

[distant snow]

I just used gamesense

Like in ruins you can go in spots where players least expect

[lilac siren]

it doesn't matter how internet works, if people have fun playing comp then it should be a thing regardless of your opinion

if you think it's unfair and pointless then just don't play, it's that simple

[distant snow]

The amount of team wipes I got from the one corner in the undercover bit

Just like what players do in undergrowth

[shadow solstice]

I agree with this

[unique moth]

If we play on LAN then you would fall to the ground in disbelief and see that you are talking nonsense when you say that you can win on 200+ ping
You simply don't understand how games works

[shadow solstice]

Kirka is just not fair for everyone to comp

[distant snow]

Do you think krunker comp is fair?

😭

There’s always going to be better players due to a variety of reasons

[unique moth]

Either your ego can't handle the fact that there is no fair play due to bad connection, or you really think you are the best player regardless of net
connection lag etc

Anyway you're taking this game a little too seriously.

[stone tendon]

fight fight fight , two goats going head to head who will come out on top, will it be "its zg mario you fool" or will it be "fabian - SA's #1 player" (find out on our next episode)

[unique moth]

😂

[lilac siren]

you are missing the whole point entirely, i never said the competition was fair, i hear you when you say the game is unfair because of ping, netcoding or whatever excuse you want to tell yourself to don't perform. and trust me you are not the only one like that, just take a look at nightcarries for example, he plays comp and is constantly complaining about something. the difference between the average kirka player and the competitive kirka player is that most comp players don't care about ping difference or hitreg, they just want to play because they have fun. they take part in tournaments, win prizes and have fun their way. i hardly disagree when you come up and say comp shouldn't be a thing just because you think it's unfair. it's not about ego, it's common sense, if a player can win a tournament on 200+ ping then why can't you?

[unique moth]

Come on

[lilac siren]

and if you think comp is just not fun because of this unfairness, then that's totally fine, people are different, you have fun your way, comp players have fun their way. both can coexist, you are the one taking it too seriously, it's just a browser game with room for everyone

[unique moth]

what fight

😂

[lilac siren]

LMAO SLANG

no fighting just discussion noob

go back to your snd cave sho sho

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-solo-leveling-season-2-solo-leveling-arise-shadow-king-beast-mode-gif-6705214267826777189

[unique moth]

Thats my thing 💪
idc if fabin will rekt me 15-0

[stone tendon]

🤣🤣

lemme have my fun😂

[distant snow]

I win

gg

[stone tendon]

get a load of this guy go back to updating my pricelists

[distant snow]

Noob I had 2 exams this week

[oblique turret]

i am with u in this

[unique moth]

Bad netcode or unfair play are not excuses, they are facts.
I have never experienced this game at such a level of competition precisely because of these facts.
****But main reason i will never compete or be good in this game is because of the movement.
I just don't like bhop and that's it,yes its skill issue on my part or whatever you want to call that **
My point of this discussion is that the vast majority of people will always complain, especially when they lose.And then when we take into account all the shortcomings of the connection, then there is no end to nagging

Make Kirka great again💪

[ocean cloak]

I personally will always complain

[unique moth]

And you should,cos that's how game will be better

[quartz tulip]

There has been points that ZG-Mario had said that I agree with.

instead of dedicating himself to making the game as good as possible with fun new content like new maps new guns more and recent updates etc
Xip should be able to focus on more stuff for the game like weapons and new features. When he puts time to other features to the game, like for example the new map creation rework, that was amazing. I remember me and sabe going crazy for it. It would be nice to see more things like that. However, competition comes with every game. No matter how small it is, people who really like the game will try to play it in a “competitive matter” to get better at it or to just have fun with more people.
Like what fabin said “it doesn't matter how internet works, if people have fun playing comp then it should be a thing regardless of your opinion.”

If we play on LAN then you would fall to the ground in disbelief and see that you are talking nonsense when you say that you can win on 200+ ping. You simply don't understand how games works

Though do I think that if we all played LAN fabin would under perform, no. He may even play better. He had high ranking tiers in other games like Valorant. Plus, he isn’t saying he can win 200+ ping, he HAS won with 200+ ping.

Okay there’s my essay

[oblique turret]

how long did it take u ?

[quartz tulip]

Hmmm. Like 6-7 minutes

[oblique turret]

hm

[distant snow]

Took me 6-7 seconds to read this

[stone tendon]

^

[stone tendon]

exam over back to work

do ur job or ill take over

🗣️

[distant snow]

Lil bro would set rampage to 5 bil

[stone tendon]

damn right so do ur job

🗣️

[quartz tulip]

Bro just get one

[stone tendon]

😂

[distant snow]

Get me one 🗣️

[quartz tulip]

No, I’m already rich

[distant snow]

Yes! Richer than me

[calm osprey]

i agree with this ngl. but a little competion cant hurt much. tbh it will never be fair and only so much can be done. but ultimately the competiotion is what brings more attention

[calm osprey]

how exactly does it work ??

how does lag compensation work ?

[calm osprey]

but it's not as serious as ranked tho.

clan wars is just spending more time on the game to grind score

[calm osprey]

bro chill 💀

[calm osprey]

bro chill.... the net disadvantage is something that really exists. and yes it is possible to perform through it and you demonstrated it. but again ur #1 for a reason..

[stone tendon]

what does him being number 1 have to do with anything what r u yapping abt

[calm osprey]

let them nag. it's an unavoidable fact that is there across several fps games. the disadvantage issue cannot be solved. ppl simple have to get used to it.

[stone tendon]

any1 can be number 1, fabin just has more skill than others

[calm osprey]

yep pretty much my point but im just confused why fabin is pissed

[stone tendon]

fabin isnt pissed he's making a point saying that there will be disadvantages in gaming , every1 plays from a diff region afterall that doesnt necessarily mean lag contributes to majority of skill based issues, like fabin did any1 can get over that wall if they played with a bit of game sense

[calm osprey]

just saying he is the only one who can do that and most cant

[stone tendon]

❌

i play on 100-400 ms

i used to be abs dog sh and i can hold my own against fabin in snd

so can many others

simply a skill issue

[buoyant dock]

a skill issue on my part

am bad

[idle scaffold]

why are we lying

top 3 players literally all come from different regions

[quartz tulip]

EU - clean and me
NA - sabe and me
SA - fabin and me

[idle scaffold]

bro added himself 😭

youll never be with me in North America

a main reason i want tdm over elimination is for more variety

since snd can be played as 4v4 elimination

and the 1v1 mode is elim

[torn phoenix]

2v2 ranked point sucked, not only nobody wished to play, because the map were beyond stupid, 2-way everyway, there`s a song, its okay to 3-way by lonely island, and isn't for nothing, all 2v2 point or tdm is, camping a corner, a choke point and since the maps are chokepoints everywhere, this mode sucks. I got all the arguments in a christmas ball and I shake it to make it snow because its so irrelevant.

while s&d, has objectives, there's actual strat that isn't only camping a corner. even @quartz tulip ended up to agree with me, src: https://youtu.be/2FDMhIouquI?si=hx0NkNQzsdnSzsWp and that is what people want to play.

build fair map and maybe the mode wont sucks.

nobody play comps because, all the comp maps are worst version of 2v2 ranked maps, tunnel wars, choke points, dead ends, its crap. or maps like yzz arena, hide n seek looking behind a glass.

not against the idea of 2v2 tdm, but I speculate it will end up like 2v2 points

[lone lantern]

get people to make new maps

probably comp players should make their own maps

according to their own demands

[quartz tulip]

I think 2v2 TDM can be different if the maps are made to be played under 2v2 maps. If we just throw in random maps then it wouldn’t work.

Also yes, while SnD can have strategic plays like I pointed out, a lot the time it’s just placing the gem and camping in a corner, and Poussiere has deep corners thanks to the over hang

Thankfully Favela doesn’t have this issue with the areas to place gems are smaller

[lone lantern]

[torn phoenix]

yes, well both map have totally different build, poussiere the first snd map I made, we were testing water, but it still ended up good.

while favela was made specifically from everything I learned, small map, routes, snipe nest, protected gem site, etc...

and @lone lantern no I disagree that comp players should make ranked map. they dont know what are fair maps.

[ocean cloak]

your the best ong ong

[quartz tulip]

I think to a certain extent that the comp map makers don’t know what they are doing. Certain maps like Sandstorm (Krunker one) just doesn’t work for Kirka. It’s a Krunker map and allows you to go fast, while Kirka has a max speed that you can go.

However, there are some good and fun maps that some “competitive map makers” have made that are fun and work well. One notable map is Cove by andy. It has worked well for 2v2 games I have played due to it being made for that in mind. If time was given to make 2v2 competitive maps, I think we would get a great influx of maps that could possibly work if they were tested by a team and tweaked if they needed the tweaking.

[torn phoenix]

yes agree, but if the current comp maps is what will be used for 2v2 tdm, I see it failing already.

I cant make maps anymore, the map editor is broken for me, can't place block, but if anyone need help to judge map, ping me, ill look it up

[lilac siren]

small upd

[tranquil lichen]

fabin will never be #1, I exist, I own him @lilac siren

[tranquil lichen]

You went quad negative when u was W me ✌️

[tranquil lichen]

I am better

[quartz tulip]

Ah, it’s just fatty

[tranquil lichen]

Wtf fat shame I feel unsafe, gecko help

[lone lantern]

tf is that emoji 😭

it was a bad idea to give daym nitro 💀

[paper shadow]

I like turtles

[hasty arch]

First

[wooden crater]

everyone in this thread just wants to lose the game because their teamate got spawn trapped or doesnt know how to shoot a gun and goes 5/30 while your 24-4.

[stone tendon]

what r u yapping abt

[spare fossil]

PLEASE

[unreal tinsel]

BRING BACK SND WHAT R U DOING

[oblique turret]

frrr

[frigid tangle]

SAD people are just gonna be greedy for kills

Point has a mindset of camping the point to win

Not score

So very valid.

[unique moth]

When you said "Point has a mindset of camping the point to win" i don't know do you understand what is the point of playing ranked or Point mode over all
When playing league or ranked, whatever you call it, it's exclusively team mode, so only victory matters. That's why someone always has to be on point to get points for the overall victory. Of course, your performance also counts towards the overall score.
In Kirka the scoring is a bit confusing but its Kirka.

You don't play ranked to get a score for CW

But a lot of guys do just that

[unreal tinsel]

https://imgflip.com/i/ac53qm

[unique moth]

Don't play it

[frigid tangle]

I was agreeing with you, I'm just stating that the people wanting SAD as the ranked mode, just don't want to give up time playing for score

but true comp players typically don't play for cw anyways

so doesn't matter

[unique moth]

I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to those who cry because they can't grind their score in ranked.✌️

[frigid tangle]

My apologies for the misunderstanding

Truly

[unique moth]

I mean i did to the first statement but not to the second lol

English is not my main language, so it can sometimes be confusing for both me and my interlocutors lol

[calm osprey]

ngl i agree with nebula here. i have met several ppl here and have done it myselfs. instead of team effort i have tried to go solo and rack up as many kills as i could. but it wasnt for score but simply trying o get as many kills as i can. nevertheless, point will have the same issue eitherway cuz its easier to get more score by racking up kills than sitting at point + more kills means more klo too. so snd or point will basically be the same.

[carmine mist]

Well

The game does not have anything else to offer so...

Its not wrong to play ranked for cw score

[calm osprey]

tbh a lot of people did this too

if the game is just short then some people would simply try to rack up as many kills as they can for more score but eitherway, it will be the same for point.

except it only gets easier to predict where oponent will come from cuz of hardpoint.

[carmine mist]

Players prefer snd because its easier to carry and isolate fights

Imagine being the only one that can shot back against 3 other people

On point

Its impossible to win

[calm osprey]

ok ye

point might be more effective in that sense then

[unique moth]

You can get more scores on phy so..

[calm osprey]

depends on aim tbh

if you have the tracking then phy, otherwise just camp corners and play shotgun

[unique moth]

If you playing ranked for more kills and not to win then idk what to tell you.

[calm osprey]

easiest way to get score

[unique moth]

Skills issue

[calm osprey]

chill im just saying

[unique moth]

Me to 😂

Why skull?
Cos I said true

[calm osprey]

definetly to win but more solo than team effort. thats all

[unique moth]

That's what I was trying to explain in my first statement and and you're just confirming that.

[calm osprey]

which one ?

[unique moth]

You can play whatever or however you want ofc. I was just saying ranked is team/win first, then everything else.

[calm osprey]

im kinda confused lmao

[calm osprey]

ye. im saying that point mill make it more team based than solo like snd did.

[unique moth]

There is no solo in ranked

[calm osprey]

i used to do it myself. i would try to go ahead of the crowd to rack up as many kils as i could without caring abt how many rounds i won.

[calm osprey]

solo in the sense no effort to coordinate as a team.

[carmine mist]

That is not the point

KLO its useless

CW score its the only thing people care about

And SND its funnier to play than physics

[unique moth]

You are playing ranked just to get a score and on phy you get 2 times more so bro what are you saying? "That is not the point" lol
You know what I really don't care. Play whatever entertains you.✌️

[crystal narwhal]

i dont play anymore but for the community that wstill will

this is def the better option

[calm osprey]

this i disagree with

[buoyant dock]

Idc about CW score in the slightest, and yet I still play tho. And Klo gets you rewards if Ur on the leaderboard, and in the first two seasons, let you buy certain store skins specific to ranked

[tranquil saddle]

PLEASE

[wintry glade]

IS there a tourney for most clans?

[tranquil lichen]

There is a ongoing tourney rn

Sign up for it

[lilac siren]

please

[lilac siren]

please

[tranquil saddle]

please

[charred swan]

Nawr

I am

[sleek bloom]

please

[zenith gyro]

pretty please

[peak night]

pls

[hexed iris]

Its point

[peak night]

Ok

[cinder mortar]

everyones begging xd

[foggy night]

nah, i am