Boopcord

[wide lintel]

https://gooberdash.winterpixel.io?play=d4509fed-cd5d-4bdf-802c-c23ee9535691

<@&1178134658857308212> boooopp

[hushed stratus]

kewl

[wide lintel]

@leaden iris @marsh pelican 👀

[upbeat panther]

It's a bit linear?

Like just on first play thats what I see

[wide lintel]

The start like, before the big gravity field?

[upbeat panther]

Wdym?

The entire level is kinda just hold right. If you wanna fix it you can definitely repurpose that wheel at the end to make a vertical section lol

[wide lintel]

That's all?

[upbeat panther]

Yeah, the gameplay is playable but just linear and not exciting

I like the layoutting too, much better than Goobing Land

[tired comet]

yeah i agree with neb, i love the mechanics and how it looks its just a bit linear unfortunetly

[marsh pelican]

I like it, just linear like Neb and wb said

[wide lintel]

I will fix it now

lol

[hushed stratus]

hm i think it’s good, but like neb, wb, and dan said it might be too linear

[leaden iris]

Later

[leaden iris]

Ok I’m not a big fan of this level because the trials are not really cool and the level is too linear. Need better decoration. But it’s kind of ok

[little jay]

nice

level

[wide lintel]

Thx lol

[wind prawn]

you can skip here

not sure if it was intended

also great level

[wide lintel]

Yeah it is

[wide lintel]

Thx

[marsh pelican]

@wide lintel the deco is a bit lacking in places

i show you where

just gimme a sec

ss1: move the arrow back a bit, bc the part to the right is extremely empty.

ss2: literally nothing here.

There are some more places where there is little deco, also there is very few unique structures. To make it less linear, maybe add a bunch of sloped and wonky shaped blocks. Overall kind of bland, has potential tho.

@wide lintel

[wide lintel]

Thank you for the feedback

[boreal tulip]

you just walk

and walk in a different direction

[wide lintel]

Not really

But I will change somethings

[sturdy stone]

Wow

Sorflock 🤩

[wide lintel]

Skill issue

[sturdy stone]

Newbie…

[wide lintel]

[sturdy stone]

I find the launch capability is still ineffective.

So fix it!

[wide lintel]

The what?

[sturdy stone]

Maybe delete 1/5 boxes in this part

Why u didnt ping me this lv 😭

But i like it

[wide lintel]

uh ok

[wide lintel]

Thx

[sand comet]

Can't you just dash?

Removes some of the boxes no?

Nvm

[wide lintel]

Updated

consider review again

@radiant silo can I have feedback?

@sturdy stone I removed some crates.

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther I added a vertical trial as you recommended and it's not linear anymore since I changed & added a lot of things

[upbeat panther]

I was honestly expecting the extension to be much longer

[wide lintel]

huh

It's a 8p, if I make it long then it'll be 16p

[upbeat panther]

Id scrap some of the linear parts at the start for it ngl

[wide lintel]

Do you like the mid/ending?

[upbeat panther]

its ok but also really linear and overtaking is next to impossible

[wide lintel]

That's a normal thing in 8p nowadays lol, but I will change it

[upbeat panther]

normal is not always good

[wide lintel]

Be more specific idk what's that 😭

[wide lintel]

Guys, should I keep the desert them or change to pink?

[wide lintel]

Spawn rework finished

Can I get a review? @hushed stratus @tired comet

@radiant silo you didn't share any opinion yet

Oh sorry Dan for pinging mid-round

[radiant silo]

It's ok

I don't usually review when I'm on the game

I only review when im not playing

[wide lintel]

Sure, I'll be waiting for

[hushed stratus]

review and play and the same time

[radiant silo]

🐙

[wide lintel]

@radiant silo Sorry for pinging again, but would it be "wrong" if I advertise Boopcord's server in a secret sign?

[radiant silo]

Like the link or just the name

[wide lintel]

Something like "This map is dedicated to Boopcord (Official server of Boop in Discord) Feel free to join, we're making a great community right there!"

[radiant silo]

Ehhh

[wide lintel]

This "Ehhh" is like, "you're cringe dude"?

[radiant silo]

Nah means im not sure lol

[wide lintel]

[radiant silo]

If it was just "join the boopcord" it'll be alright but a whole advertisment is just too much

[wide lintel]

Nobody would know what Boopcord is

I mean, it could be anything, and the whole level is dedicated to this server

[radiant silo]

"discord server"

[wide lintel]

uhhh, so only "Join Boopcord" doesn't make sense

It would be "Join Boopcord, the Discord server" or smh

[marsh pelican]

I’m dan, he’s daniel.

just so we don’t get confused

[astral raven]

seems a nice map

[wide lintel]

Lol

[wide lintel]

Thank you

@radiant silo just a reminder 🤭

[radiant silo]

Sure

Too much walking

I don't see a real obstacle that lets you overtake people or make it enjoyable

[wide lintel]

Like, more short cuts, spikes and saws?

[radiant silo]

Ye im just walking dashing then doing two jumps then dashing again then the same thing

[wide lintel]

Lol, I'll add more trials then

@radiant silo, did you like the start?

[sturdy stone]

I will answer for him: "Yes"

"Super Cool"

[wide lintel]

Thx lol

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther I've added many obstacles now and dash rechargers, overtaking is definitely possible

[upbeat panther]

Much better

the laser overuse is annoying tho

creates so many unneccessary cycles & waiting moments

[sturdy stone]

fr

[wide lintel]

At the ending?

[upbeat panther]

everywhere

[wide lintel]

I will keep some at the end and start to remove some in the middle

Is that fine?

[upbeat panther]

I'd prefer if there were only 1-3 lasers that actually made sense

[wide lintel]

Hum ok, I will remove a bunch of them

That's all?

[upbeat panther]

We'll see

[wide lintel]

Alr

I'm changing it now, can I ping you in 10-15mins?

[upbeat panther]

You mayy

[wide lintel]

[tired comet]

Fr

[wide lintel]

I added this jumpzone, it makes a shortcut possible, I also removed 5 lasers, let me know what else is missing @tired comet @upbeat panther

[sturdy stone]

Maybe no

[wide lintel]

empty?

[sturdy stone]

No maybe u was wrong

[wide lintel]

wdym

[sturdy stone]

No problem

[upbeat panther]

Huh?

[wide lintel]

huh

[upbeat panther]

wdym vote

[sturdy stone]

3/10

[wide lintel]

you're a little late in time lmao

[upbeat panther]

[wide lintel]

thx

you need to upvote the post to vote btw

oh thank you

What else is missing nebneb?

[sturdy stone]

How t

[wide lintel]

upvote

[hushed stratus]

[sturdy stone]

🤯

I have been enlightened by you!

[wide lintel]

come on 😭

[sturdy stone]

Who picked down vote

[hushed stratus]

i did upvote cause i turned my phone upside down

[sturdy stone]

Cười

[wide lintel]

Do you like the level?

[hushed stratus]

yes look i upvoted it

[wide lintel]

oh ok, would you send to Typixel then?

[wide lintel]

@hushed stratus If you won't send it to him, let me know what is missing or needs to be fixed please 🙏

[wide lintel]

Any feedback would be good

[wide lintel]

@radiant silo can you take a look now?

[radiant silo]

Not really sorry, going out

[wide lintel]

oh ok

[radiant silo]

Ping me in the mornings, nights im always out

[wide lintel]

What time is it for you

[radiant silo]

19:43

[wide lintel]

Got it

@leaden iris 👀

[leaden iris]

Where are you from?

[radiant silo]

Poland

[leaden iris]

You’re not from USA?

[leaden iris]

Oh ok

[radiant silo]

How can you not know lmao

Im always first in leaderboard

[leaden iris]

Idk

[wide lintel]

[leaden iris]

wait I will look

Oh

I’m dumb😭

[wide lintel]

MaLi, gimme feedback

[leaden iris]

I am going outside now but after

[radiant silo]

You're from France correct?

[leaden iris]

No

🤭

From Québec

[radiant silo]

Really?

Oh

Damn always thought you were french

[leaden iris]

Nah

And Poiluours is also from Québec

[radiant silo]

Thought he was Vietnamese 😭

[leaden iris]

First when you put arrow you have to put them at intersection

[leaden iris]

Not really😂😂😂

[wide lintel]

wdym

[leaden iris]

Wait a sec

For exemple, the arrow in the screenshot is far so when you’re where my skin is, you don’t know if you should go left or right because you don’t see the arrow

@wide lintel

[wide lintel]

ahh

@leaden iris I can see it

[leaden iris]

Ahh

Remove the laser. We don’t see it!!!

[wind prawn]

[leaden iris]

Like this I don’t see it

[wide lintel]

😭

ok

[leaden iris]

T’aime tu ma nouvelle finale?

[wide lintel]

Poill

[wind prawn]

ça va mais tu peux camper au début

[wind prawn]

Pocoyo

[leaden iris]

Mis comment

[wind prawn]

[wide lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/pocoyo-dance-samuelbr1z-discord-banner-gif-1025343304054887369

[wind prawn]

bah jsp tu peux juste camper

[leaden iris]

Durant toute la map?

Genre jusqu’à la fin ou juste le début

[wind prawn]

ah non ya un truc quit pousse

javais pas vu

[leaden iris]

Oui js

Je comprend pas nebula dit qu’on peut mais je trouve pas comment

Pis en plus c comme géométrie Dash pis c bien

I need to go bye everyone

[wind prawn]

surement elle a pas vu le truc invisible

[leaden iris]

Jsp

[astral raven]

That's SmoothBanana lol

[radiant silo]

thought they both were

[wide lintel]

@radiant silo

[wide lintel]

@old sparrow can you?

[wide lintel]

🥀

[upbeat panther]

No response is also a response

[wide lintel]

I understand that a lot, but I'd need to know what needs to be changed, should I add more things? Remove stuff? Or is this map bad, and I should start another? Like the silence itself doesn't help me, can you give me this kind of feedback?

[upbeat panther]

We are not required to give that kind of feedback anymore

But I can help you

I've been playing this one the most and probably have a general idea of what I dislike here

Simple flow change here can make a big difference

I think this obstacle should be removed, its just an unneccessary cycle that doesnt work no matter how you put it

[wide lintel]

Sure, I agree here

[upbeat panther]

Also, generally whats this platform for? First I thought it was to skip that very cycle but this just servers no purpose or am I wrong?

Second flow change, these conveyor belts go into the ground and end up pushing players into the saw, if you're gonna place it that close make sure that doesn't happen please

[wide lintel]

When players get pushed in the right direction, they can climb there to go up through the big moving cube

[upbeat panther]

But I don't understand, that doesnt actually give them any advantage so everyone will go down?

Especially because it spins the other way when all players arrive there lol

[wide lintel]

Not really lol

[upbeat panther]

I think it wouldve been cool if you made that into a little shortcut

like "this seems slower but is actually faster" map knowledge shortcut if you know what I mean

Anyway these issues could all be fixed and thats because I think the map just needs some spice honestly

Like I love it but somethings clearly missing for me

[wide lintel]

Hum

[upbeat panther]

For ex. you have these 3 super unique obstacles you could twist and rotate to your liking

Its sad that theres no further usage

I understand maybe not all of these fit for a whole part, but you can work out something for sure?

[wide lintel]

I don't know lol

[radiant silo]

Gotta have some actions, take a look at certified maps like bibir1 dashclimb garden of eden, you'll understand what kind of spice you should be trying to make

[wide lintel]

I mean, it seems I got the correct obstacles but wrong placements?

[wide lintel]

Well, maybe that makes sense

[upbeat panther]

I think also in general you could make this level a bit more fun by giving the players 30% more space

When you find the correct amount of space in your level it helps a lot

[wide lintel]

Here you mean? #1439639829716668576 message

[upbeat panther]

I don't know if you understand

This entire part seems like too little space

[wide lintel]

At this point, me too 😭

[wide lintel]

oh yeah, I agree with the that, but how could I add more space with keeping with the overtaking thing?

without the spikes thing it's just a walking zone, what could be done here?

[radiant silo]

Hmm what could be done there

[upbeat panther]

A general rule of thumb of space:

Your level should start with the most space possible to make sure no one dies unfairly and everyone can play the level comfortably
Slowly but surely you can slow down the space usage in your level because less players will be grouped together. (ONLY when you allow pro players to take the lead beforehand)

NickMcSlick's "seanysean's rage" uses space perfectly. Goes from Super spacious to small sections if you check these two (Beginning & End)

Fun fact this is actually the level I explained this to him on lol

And I guess my advice worked? But I won't take the credit for it

[wide lintel]

Nebula didn't like the the lasers thing

[upbeat panther]

I didn't like the "lasers thing" I disliked the Cycles

[wide lintel]

I mean, the overusing

[upbeat panther]

lasers are a great obstacle when you use them as lasers

Not as Cycles

[radiant silo]

There's more than one way to use lasers

[upbeat panther]

please read up on this, this is probably the most important advice I've given to many

its obvious but also not

[wide lintel]

So, my biggest upgrade here should be space?

[wide lintel]

Yeah, it sounds right to me

[upbeat panther]

Spice, Space and the general flow fixes

[wide lintel]

Oh, fine, thanks for the feedback guys. I will need big upgrades there. Can I ping you in a few days?

[upbeat panther]

You may

[wide lintel]

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask, the ending is good?

this is good?

[upbeat panther]

yea I love the shortcut and the wheel is ofc awesome

[wide lintel]

thx

[old sparrow]

Also the level structure is pretty wierd in some places, im questioning a few of the design choices but it could just be a me problem

[wide lintel]

Where exactly?

[wide lintel]

[old sparrow]

I feel like you got all the right obstacles in the wrong place

[astral raven]

If only this map had fair spawn places 🥀

[upbeat panther]

Great map anyway

[astral raven]

Nah when you spawn in the middle you basically cant get first if there is another pro trying

but

yeah i agree

[wide lintel]

Any problem with this?

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther Updated

I've done small changes around the map, making the gameplay more fluid and stuff

Main changed are here

first ss: now
second ss: before

much more space for gameplay

[old sparrow]

why is there a hidden dash recharger

so pointless

please dont add these to your levels

[wide lintel]

oh lol, there's one for every arrow

[wide lintel]

make them hidden?

alr

[old sparrow]

yeah dont

[wide lintel]

updated

Do you like it?

[hushed stratus]

i don’t like it

|| i love it ||

[wide lintel]

Thank you

[upbeat panther]

i chek

[upbeat panther]

Level link

[marsh pelican]

tanks

I like this level.

One thing tho (in the screenshot) I don’t like how this saw comes out of nowhere, there is no warning sign, and the saw goes to the edge of the platform. Please make it so the player can have some time to react to the saw before they die.

The rest of the level is mostly good, some parts could use some more deco, though not much more is needed.

@wide lintel

[upbeat panther]

I only see little issues, so I'll point them out and you can fix them if you want

• Could fill this in, would make it much cleaner since the movement on the spike isnt needed imo

• Jumpzone isn't neccessary here either, I guess you did it to fill up space but its just pointless ngl and kinda removes the rawness of your part

[marsh pelican]

remove jump zone, add warning sign

[upbeat panther]

• This one's a must tho, please just remove the bouncy and wind its so cluttering, as the wise GrosserSpino once said: "I wanna just walk for a bit too" (or smth like that idk)

[marsh pelican]

very wise

i also don’t like the thing in the part you highlighted that slams you into the spikes

[upbeat panther]

I still have concerns with the shortcut and spawn.

The spawn is honestly really unfair still, part of me wishes you started it a bit more on the bottom and used those wheels to make a skilled climbing section at the start for pro goobers (just as an idea, feel free to wish as you do please ofc)

The shortcut is crazy satisfying, but too much risk for little reward. You have to do a basically kaizo maneuver while there are people dashing you. I fear you added something cool for basically no reason, when we were playing this in a custom I was the only one who took it and I lost some races because of it, it hardly ever paid off

[wide lintel]

Thank you
Are you talking about the shortcut at the end?
I might do a rework at the spawn, so the gameplay may be more, yk fair.
Do you like my changes at the mid? (Except the bouncy block)

[upbeat panther]

the kaizo shortcut where you have to fit between the gap, i shouldve clarified sorry

Yeah changes at the mid are great and much better than what I suggested 😭

[wide lintel]

😂 😂

[wide lintel]

oh alr

[wide lintel]

@marsh pelican Warning added

@upbeat panther I've changed a few things, that's all? I only need to rework the spawn. Anything else?

[upbeat panther]

Ping me again when you rework the spawn and I check it out

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther You said you've tested it before, the main problem is with the blue part or the red one? Or just all this

[upbeat panther]

spawn advantage means a specific group of players (in this case the top) can get the lead just because of the spawn

That should be gone or decreased as much as possible

the top person still has an advantage in your screenshot

[wide lintel]

Ahh, so the problem is only the spawn placements?

[upbeat panther]

Yea

[wide lintel]

I'm so slow 😅

ok, I'm changing it now

@upbeat panther seems better?

I'm not sure about the button, what you think

[sturdy stone]

I wil anwser for her: Yea bettter

[upbeat panther]

the top player still has the advantage and the start will probably be pushy

[wide lintel]

Damn, this is harder than I thought

Would a disappearing block fix it?

I think I have an idea

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther updated

Consider check it

[hushed stratus]

why not just make four players come from each side

[wide lintel]

Do you think it would work? I thought this way would be fair for everyone, I'll try that then

Thanks for the suggestion

[marsh pelican]

two small tweaks.

ss1: please make it so that the block pushes you up right away, it’s so annoying having to wait. Maybe add like a 1 second delay, it’ll probably fix it.

ss2: small visual thing, but the gap here makes it look weird, one block thick ground objects are bad to have in levels because they don’t look great.

Other than that great level @wide lintel

[wide lintel]

I might remove both 😅

Just haven't found time yet

[marsh pelican]

ok

[wide lintel]

Thx for the feedback

[marsh pelican]

[wide lintel]

@tired comet Do you like it? Some people want me to rework at the spawn, what do you think?

[wide lintel]

@hushed stratus @upbeat panther I made another version of the spawn with this link, should this be the main one? https://gooberdash.winterpixel.io?play=532efff4-ef35-4a03-b60f-5c1ad77768b6

[wide lintel]

?

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther Since the problem is only at the spawn could you rate this one from the link?

[leaden iris]

Nice level

[wide lintel]

Hi MaLi, thank you

Which spawn do you think is better?

I mean, the second one is just an idea, since it's a little crooked that way

[upbeat panther]

It seems interesting, seems like right side advantage from afar tho

Please center the wheel in the middle

[wide lintel]

Yeah sure

Thx

[hushed stratus]

yeah looks good to me

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther I made small changes to the terrain on the spawn and

• Made it more fair for both sides
• Wheel in the middle now

I did those things in the main link btw

[wide lintel]

This one

[upbeat panther]

https://gooberdash.winterpixel.io?play=d4509fed-cd5d-4bdf-802c-c23ee9535691

Part of me realizes how much of a walking simulator this level really is

[wide lintel]

You told me to remove the lasers lol

Maybe more spikes? Or terrain changes

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther I've done more changes to the terrain, I think that's the main problem you're referring to. Let me know what else is needed

[hushed stratus]

i feel like there isn’t really any real obstacles

[upbeat panther]

the lasers weren't doing your level any justice, it wouldve been a walking simulator with annoying cycles

[upbeat panther]

Imo your level is just hold right or hold left with the occasional spinner

There needs to be some sort of skill section to make me vote for this

[wide lintel]

Like the ending?

[upbeat panther]

Correct

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther I've done a rework around the middle; that's one of the things I've done. Did you like it?

I probably should do a rework near the spawn to break the hold right thing

Let me know what you think about these small things I've done now

[upbeat panther]

already 10x better

[old sparrow]

@wide lintel what did I say about hidden dash rechargers?

seems like you forgot

this level is still too much of a hold right and walk simulator for me, I think you‘d be better off making a new one than just refining this one for ages

i‘ll have to reject this one sorry :(

[wide lintel]

oh damn

[wide lintel]

Ops

Let me know if other LCs also reject this, so I'm gonna make a new map

[wide lintel]

I was about to fix the hold right thing, but I just haven't found time for it

[gentle agate]

This level has some fun elements, especially the windmills and the shortcuts, but I ultimately dont believe that it feels skill-based enough. It’s enjoyable to time trial, but qualifying on it feels like it could be too random/ too packed. There aren’t many opportunities to separate yourself from others until the very end, where the laser acts as the main differentiator. The issue for me is that the laser comes up suddenly (no warning that I saw) and can easily cause accidental deaths (someone who doesn’t know could dash others into it), which, combined with this being a more crowded/packed map, makes it feel like a single make-or-break obstacle right before the finish as there aren’t many opportunities for separation from other players in the first 30 seconds or so of the map.
The fundamentals are definitely there, but because the map seems to rely heavily on one major obstacle at the end rather than a progression of skill-based sections, I worry it may feel inconsistent or overly luck-based in a qualifying setting. Looking forward to seeing more maps from you though for sure!

[wide lintel]

I will do a few more edits in this map soon, if more people don't enjoy it, I'll make another one, thanks for the feedback

[astral raven]

@wide lintel I dont get what your magic is how is this being dicussed so much and my level isnt?

tell me the trick

[wide lintel]

Trick?

Idk, I'm just map making, I feel like this map has great potential, so I'm not giving up on changes easily, like, avoid pinging LCs or anyone without any kind of new thing to see, if they keep the silence for a long time, you gotta change again and ping them again, or your map isn't good for certify

For example, I got at least 3 people saying I need to break the hold right thing and make at least one more skilled trial, which means I need to improve, I don't have time for it yet, but I'll eventually update again, ready for more feedback

[astral raven]

i built a level and the only feedback i get is like i kinda like this ,i like this too

[wide lintel]

If they like, that's already a great thing lol, just keep building to get more experience, someone liking it isn't really enough to build a nice level

[split pine]

trow for lc

[upbeat panther]

well guess what

[split pine]

stop saying that

now im too hyped for what’s going to happen

[upbeat panther]

bro...

#goober-dash

[wide lintel]

@upbeat panther @gentle agate: I modified something near the spawn, and yeah, I added a skilled trial ig? It seems good, I also added a warning arrow at the ending laser, the hold right thing is also broken now

@old sparrow I removed the hidden re-chargers now, since I modified a whole trial, let me know if you still reject it.

[wide lintel]

Any feedback?

[hushed stratus]

i softlocked myself and i wasn’t even trying to ☠️

[wide lintel]

womp womp

alright, I know how to fix it

[wide lintel]

fixed

Sorry, I forgot to publish it guys, let me know what else is needed

[upbeat panther]

Both shortcuts feel really annoying for multiplayer

the bottom route thats meant to be faster before the skip is slower btw

Other than that i dont think this did anything

im so burnt out from this level aswell btw, either you change something for real or i will have to stop reviewing

I know youve been changing a lot but it clearly hasnt worked unfortunately

And while im sorry for that you always have the opportunity to make a new level with a similiar style but start from new with what youve learnt from this level

[wide lintel]

I thought you liked the shortcut lol

Thanks anyway; I might create another map with many of the elements from this one? I don't know

[upbeat panther]

oh

i mean the teo before it

the one at the end is still awesome

[wide lintel]

Oh ok

I'll probably copy the whole ending for a new map

If you don't mind :)