Certified Levels being removed

[shell valley]

this one's kinda controversial as I know that many level creators spend a lot of time to bug-proof their levels and make them the best they can, but for ones who seem to have a massive dislike rate (I say massive because some people will thumb down a level solely because they lost on it) i think they should be removed.
Or we could do community bans/suspects for levels that are annoying to play

[old copper]

this is true, but not true at the same time

it's always the elims with bad ratings.

Nebula has already mentioned that he might make a thread about all the bad elims

But levels with bad ratings aren't neccesarily bad

Take dash climb for example, it's a good level, but a very low rating.

The only levels that I think should be fixed/removed are levels where almost everytime people don't qualify

I'm looking at you slippery slopes

I also think that as more and more maps get certified, older maps should get removed, just because otherwise there would be too many maps in the game,

this would be bad because then you could play like 50 games and not play every map yet, which is just like idk

I just think the amount of maps we have rn is the perfect amount

sorry if that was a lot

[lunar zinc]

My certified map came out yesterday, Ive played like 50 games where I get to the 8p round and never got my map

[old copper]

there are currently 63 eight player maps in the game(i counted)

so that seems about right LOL

[unborn imp]

8 player maps are really common, I’ve only ever played my 8 player maps twice. It’s just the statistics lol

[old copper]

i've never gotten sea green in my LIFE

[unborn imp]

I don’t disagree with removing levels though, but everyone would have to agree on the levels

[old copper]

i got balance once the day it got certified, same with unbalance LOL

[old copper]

honestly bruh levels shouldn't be removed until they get old

this month we got 30 new certified levels

at this rate we're going to get like over 300 certified levels per year LOL

[unborn imp]

this is also a good idea tbh, that way people are motivated to keep making new levels

But then again people might not like ones that they like getting removed

[old copper]

idk how the devs are going to do this

because i highly doubt that we're just going to slowly approach thousands of levels lol

[spiral mason]

yes please!

get rad race outta here

[old copper]

yeah i agree lol, surprised no one every mentioned rad race

Rad race is such a low quality race, and it's hard in certain places too

@flat harbor can we start a petition to get rad race removed 😭

its litereally like boopfh but slightly better

like this part right here is just so stupid

[spiral mason]

ok so the start has the worst parts

[flat harbor]

if you want a race/elim removed dm ty about it

i can always make 20 posts on lc about bad levels and at the end of the day ill only flood lc and the devs usually wont respond

[spiral mason]

worst part fr

[old copper]

the whole level is just low quality and bad

all of the earlier races were like this

[old copper]

ive already bothered ty enough 😭

[spiral mason]

i also hate "full of advencher"

and "forest tower"

[old copper]

forest tower is fine

full of advencher i completely agree with

[spiral mason]

the end of forest tower is rage

[lunar zinc]

there are 154 maps, we need some of them removed

also, bring back "Hogwarts Staircase (Easy)"

[unborn imp]

Okay but like which ones lol that’s really the issue

[old copper]

imma make a list of some more maps to be removed( a very quick list)

[shell valley]

forest tower is ok

it's not great due to lack of space

but it could be worse

full of adventure is spike pit spam and lasers to block off people, I would vote to kill it

the part where you have to wall climb a dissapearing block is incredibly annoying

even though there's physics boxes nearby to make a staircase

[old copper]

-rad race(low quality, lil bit hard, just bad level)
-older levels like dissapearing 4, greaser, and race 1 because of the shortcuts
-the laser path levels, all of them are too hard, and not really fun for you average little goob
-ramp city, the shortcut is just kinda unfair to those how dont know how to superjump
-all the bad elims that are luck based I won't list them, because i think Nebula might make a thread about them
-Honestly, I think we need more 32-player levels, currently our only maker of them is Yellowstorm LOL. I'm tired of playing Growth or funnels or Boogaloo everytime
-big betty Just no. just no..
-discord I don't know how this hasnt come up yet, but it's way too laggy. Maybe not removed, but at least crate count reduced
-full of advencher this level is just dumb. If you get a bad spawn, or even die once, you're cooked. You litereally cant get past, and the players in first get such a big advantage. this level design is just dumb.
-slippery slopes Now this level is a good level, except NO ONE EVER FINISHES. i think levels where not much people qualify should be fixed/removed. never in my life have I seen all 8 people qualify.
-do it im not suggesting this be removed, but only PATCH THE SHORTCUT PLEASEEE
-Slippery slope levels(by winterpixel) I get that this is a tutorial for the ice block, but why? why not just add a tutorial for the ice/jump zone in the actual tutorial?
-eric- this one has been hated on so much, doesn't even need an explanation
-high bounces doesnt have to be removed, just the part with the tiny jump zones and lasers needs to be nerfed a bit, too many people i see get stuck there
-** boxing match** I just don't like these short levels, if you die once, ur cooked

this was a lot longer than I expected lol

all the newer levels have been better, which is proof that the devs are listening lol

[old copper]

i hope this answers the question LOL

[shell valley]

oh my god rad race is AWFUL

[old copper]

thats probably the worst one currently

its like the slightly better version of boopfh LOL

[shell valley]

first 2 saw parts are almost unplayable with many people

[old copper]

@flat harbor you can also refer to this lmao

[shell valley]

ramp city is bad because you can skip 50% of the level and it's incredibly short

[old copper]

really all short levels should be removed

[old copper]

forgot to mention laser dash lol

[shell valley]

big betty is a spamfest, (some luck in spawning on the top layer)

[flat harbor]

elims were kinda posted in ty's dms, he may have read it he may have not idk LOL

[old copper]

do you agree with the levels i put lmao

[flat harbor]

not all

just cuz levels are old for example doesnt mean they're bad

disseapearing4 is still good ngl

[old copper]

not really a fun 8 player level though

i would rather see the newer ones

its not that they're bad, its just that it's boring after a long time

[flat harbor]

if it were after me, remove ALL certified levels and only add the elims and levels the community likes

[old copper]

which is why i think the devs should start removing older levels

[old copper]

ok well thats interesting

[flat harbor]

we need more simple levels

nowadays we get these 20 new mechanic levels

i just want well designed (as in good terrain) simple levels

[old copper]

simple as in 32 p levels?

[flat harbor]

No simple as in old map style

levels like ur sea level are amazing but they're simply too detailed imo

[old copper]

yeah

thats why i expected sea green to not get certified

[flat harbor]

Its the best certif level and all but i just want simple maps back lol

[old copper]

simple as in normal boring winterpixel levels bruh

sorry but like

i think simple levels should only be in the 32p and 16p maps

i think 8p maps could use some variety

[flat harbor]

back then goober dash was more fun for me because it wouldnt force you to go through 20 spinners, 30 elevators and 9273738273 wind tunnels

[old copper]

you know what i mean? because it may be a bit mroe confusing AT FIRST, but it will be a lot more fun

[old copper]

i think for people coming in today, they would agree

but people who play the game a lot will definetly get bored of simple levels

(like greaser for example lmao)

[flat harbor]

greaser is a boring level i agree

[old copper]

same with dissapearing 4

[flat harbor]

but race1, flippers, dissapearing4 are so fine imo

[old copper]

the first part isnt even a race bruh its just touching blocks

[old copper]

flippers, race1 needs their shortcuts fixed

[flat harbor]

why?

[old copper]

imagine the amount of people raging at how this dude juimped so high and completely skipped a part

there is literally no reason for skips, unless they're actually hard

a hard skip that saves time is acceptable

not some easy super jump like in race 1

[flat harbor]

so we remove the skill from flippers for example? the flippers skip is HELLA hard for literally everyone that doesnt play the game 24/7

i remember me having to make a setup back then cuz i wasnt as good

I dont think removing skips will do anything but make a map less fun

[old copper]

for you at least.

imagine for the newer players though

flippers skip could be kept i guess because its genuinly slightly hard to pull off

[flat harbor]

the newer players will 99% always die to the pro players, some make it through anyway

[old copper]

but the 2 easiest skips in you life inr ace 1 that skips like half the map?

[old copper]

so why should we give pro players more advantages then?

[flat harbor]

because doing something difficult is rewarding, imagine if games like mario kart had no shortcuts. You know how boring that'd be? it'd be linear, boring and not as fun

[old copper]

now that i think of trackmania

I guess lol

[old copper]

but im still IN COMPLETELY dissagreement about race 1, that shortcut is the opposite of difficult lol

same with the do it shortcut

the shortcut on overgrowth is actually hard to pull off, so it can stay

but like others that are easy have to go

[flat harbor]

i think the actual problem is the fact that race1 is terribly built in terms of how long the normal path is

the normal path should be shortened (and made easier) and the skips should stay
just dont say "remove skips from x maps because most players cant do them!" because trust me, you wouldnt want that even if it seems more fair for most players

because at the end of the day, the pro players will get grouped up with everyone else and everyone being grouped up all the time isnt fun because you cant take that first place with skill

at that point it'd be luck

also now that we discussed this, im gonna change race1 a bit and make a modded ver of it

[old copper]

what about the do it shortcut

(surprisingly not much people know about it)

[flat harbor]

honestly i figured out about that like 2 weeks ago so

[old copper]

its kinda hidden in plain sight

only found out from the world record threads lmao

[flat harbor]

I think maybe adding something up there would be funny

like just add a tstmts jump up there and we good

[old copper]

nah like its actually crazy its kidna easy to spot

who wouldnt spot it?

[old copper]

ye just something to make it harder

shortcuts arent supposed to be easy

[flat harbor]

https://gooberdash.winterpixel.io?play=325e783d-77fb-463d-9ada-9e0fd71211ea @old copper

[shell valley]

instead of putting gang signs on the top of the map, can't you just put spikes on the wall you climb to get over the map ?

[spiral mason]

we should take out city jumping

there was another but i forgor

[old copper]

ok bub

[shell valley]

pomelo why’d you downvote

@craggy sierra

[craggy sierra]

I think they shouldent be removed only bc somo ppl dislike it bc they lose, if u understandme

but I removed the downvote lol

[shell valley]

that’s why i said major (40%~ or lower) should be tested or community votes to see the future of the level

[craggy sierra]

oh nice

[old copper]

Did you ever realize Abt the shortcut in ur map do it

[spiral mason]

nah bro everyone hates rad race

[plain shuttle]

flippers skip is so cool

[plain shuttle]

I make 32 player levels, but if Typixel doesnt certify them then thats our problem

[craggy sierra]

yes

[craggy sierra]

I dont :)

[spiral mason]

howwww

[craggy sierra]

idk

[storm nimbus]

yo

prob get the people to vote for the certified levels

if it wins, then ppl cant complain for it afterwards

[lunar zinc]

I dont

[old copper]

your strange

[lunar zinc]

wdym?

[spiral mason]

OH also remove "slippery slopes"

by lazermouse

[shell valley]

let's give the gd level council another job

assessing levels that community dislikes

[plain shuttle]

Nah its good

[spiral mason]

NUH UH

[plain shuttle]

Why do you think its bad

[spiral mason]

lemme take a few screenshots

[old copper]

because half the time only like 5/8 people qualify

its just simply too long

gen z kids of attention spans of like 15 seconds

[craggy sierra]

no.
Is good :D

[craggy sierra]

(Castle invaders be like)

[old copper]

at least people qualify lol

[plain shuttle]

Do you think bibir 1 is good

[old copper]

nope

[craggy sierra]

yes

[shell valley]

explain your reasoning

I'll go first

it feels generally cramped

first time players die to the saw blade part with gravity fields

overall it's not an easy level

[spiral mason]

bibir is ok

[unborn imp]

bibir is awful

[shell valley]

bruh this place also has two sides

one

two

[spiral mason]

bruh

[craggy sierra]

hmmm
I like the level
(I used to hate it when I was a noob)

[old copper]

bro

bibir is so bad lol

why would anyone think its good its just 11353235 obstacles cramped into the tiniest space

[shell valley]

that's my stance on the level. the cramping + annoying obstacles

[lunar zinc]

same here

[craggy sierra]

no

[old copper]

yes

[craggy sierra]

no

[lunar zinc]

its bad @craggy sierra

[craggy sierra]

its not bad @lunar zinc

[lunar zinc]

yes it is

[shell valley]

86% say it's bad

ok from a noob perspective this level sucks

from a meh player it's kinda annoying

for pomelo who has probably been playing the game for more time than plate, henrik and me combined

it's cakewalk

[lunar zinc]

its easy for me to

i just hate it though because its to long

[old copper]

its not about how hard it is lmao

there isnt a single certified level thats hard (including climb!!!!)

[craggy sierra]

I've been playing for 6 months only

[lunar zinc]

ive been playign for five

[shell valley]

my point stands, you seem to have more experience with the game than us (in other words shush)

[old copper]

its not abt how hard the level is, its just abt the design of the level overall

personally i really loathe levels that take above a minute to finish

it's just not what im looking for when im trying to relax and chill

bibir is just so cramped and stuff it just feels uncomfortable

[shell valley]

this is why i don't like it